We Chat Divorce Podcast

193. Divorce Documentation: Turn Chaos Into Court-Ready Proof

Wed, 29 Apr 2026 14:49:00 -0000

This episode of We Chat Divorce dives into a critical but often misunderstood reality of high-conflict divorce: truth alone is not enough—how you organize and present information is what ultimately matters. Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan are joined by family court strategist Courtney Gil Martin, who shares her firsthand experience navigating nearly a decade of post-divorce litigation. Together, they unpack why so many individuals feel frustrated in court despite having “proof,” and how disorganized documentation, emotional overwhelm, and lack of strategy can weaken even valid claims.

The conversation reframes documentation as more than just saving emails or journaling experiences—it’s about building a structured, usable system that supports your case, your attorney, and ultimately the court. Courtney emphasizes the importance of creating a centralized “case hub,” where timelines, evidence, and financial records are organized in a way that allows for quick access, clear narratives, and strategic use. This approach not only strengthens credibility but can also reduce legal costs by making it easier for professionals to advocate effectively on your behalf.

Karen and Catherine connect this concept directly to the financial side of divorce, highlighting a key distinction: not all information leads to a meaningful outcome. Emotional events, past behaviors, or even perceived injustices may feel important, but without a clear purpose or legal relevance, they can create distraction rather than impact. Instead, they encourage listeners to focus on what data actually supports their goals—whether that’s custody, financial settlement, or long-term stability—and to approach documentation with intention, not reaction.

Ultimately, this episode reinforces a powerful message: confidence in divorce comes from clarity, not emotion. When you are grounded in facts—organized, accessible, and aligned with a defined outcome—you shift the power dynamic. You’re no longer reacting to the situation; you’re leading it. And in a system where time is limited and decisions carry lasting consequences, that level of preparation can make all the difference in protecting your future.

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192. Financial Blind Spots in Marriage: The Cost of Not Knowing in Divorce

Wed, 22 Apr 2026 19:16:00 -0000

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan unpack one of the most common—and costly—realities in divorce: financial blind spots within a marriage.

Inspired in part by the broader conversation sparked by the popular book Strangers: a Memoir of Marriage , this discussion moves beyond the emotional narrative and into the financial truth many individuals face when divorce becomes real. Because while the emotional impact often gets the attention, it’s the lack of financial clarity that can have lasting consequences. Through real client experiences, Karen and Catherine reveal how often individuals enter divorce without a clear understanding of their financial picture. Unknown accounts, overlooked debts, and incomplete visibility aren’t signs of irresponsibility—they’re the result of financial roles that “worked” until they didn’t. The problem is, once divorce begins, you’re no longer living within the system—you’re being asked to evaluate, explain, and divide it. This episode reinforces a core principle: being financially supported is not the same as being financially informed. Without clarity, decisions are made under pressure, legal costs increase, and long-term outcomes can suffer. That’s why My Divorce Solution focuses on financial clarity before legal action—organizing, verifying, and analyzing your full financial picture so you can move forward with confidence, not confusion.

About My Divorce Solution

We Chat Divorce is produced by My Divorce Solution (MDS) — a financial divorce preparation company dedicated to helping individuals navigate divorce with clarity, confidence, and a strategic financial plan. Founded by Karen Chellew, Legal Liaison, and Catherine Shanahan, Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), MDS was created to solve one of the most common and costly mistakes in divorce: entering the legal process without fully understanding your financial picture.

Divorce is not just a legal event — it is a financial transition that can shape your long-term security. Through the MDS Divorce Financial Portrait™, clients receive expert financial analysis, organized financial disclosures, and scenario planning to understand how different settlement decisions impact their future. This financial preparation often reduces legal fees, shortens the divorce process, and helps individuals negotiate from a position of knowledge rather than fear.If you are considering divorce or already in the process, you can begin by taking the Free Divorce Financial Assessment to better understand your options. You can also join the MDS Community for expert guidance, educational resources, and live Q&A events designed to help you move from uncertainty to clarity.

At My Divorce Solution, the mission is simple: replace fear with knowledge so you can make informed, confident financial decisions during divorce.

DisclaimerThe We Chat Divorce podcast (hereinafter referred to as the “WCD”) represents the opinions of Catherine Shanahan, Karen Chellew, and their guests to the show. WCD should not be considered professional or legal advice. The content here is for informational purposes only. Views and opinions expressed on WCD are our own and do not represent that of our places of work.WCD should not be used in any legal capacity whatsoever. Listeners should contact their attorney to obtain advice with respect to any particular legal matter. No listener should act or refrain from acting on the basis of information on WCD without first seeking legal advice from counsel in the relevant jurisdiction. No guarantee is given regarding the accuracy of any statements or opinions made on WCD.Unless specifically stated otherwise, Catherine Shanahan and Karen Chellew do not endorse, approve, recommend, or certify any information, product, process, service, or organization presented or mentioned on WCD, and information from this podcast should not be referenced in any way to imply such approval or endorsement. The third-party materials or content of any third-party site referenced on WCD do not necessarily reflect the opinions, standards or policies of Catherine Shanahan or Karen Chellew.WCD, CATHERINE SHANAHAN, AND KAREN CHELLEW EXPRESSLY DISCLAIM ANY AND ALL LIABILITY OR RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, OR OTHER DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF ANY INDIVIDUAL’S USE OF, REFERENCE TO, RELIANCE ON, OR INABILITY TO USE, THIS PODCAST OR THE INFORMATION PRESENTED IN THIS PODCAST.

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191. Divorcing a Narcissist: How to Protect Yourself, Your Finances, and Your Future

Wed, 15 Apr 2026 17:14:00 -0000

Divorcing a narcissistic or high-conflict partner is one of the most emotionally and strategically complex experiences you can face.

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, we’re joined by high-conflict divorce coach, mediator, and author Victoria McCooey, who shares what it really looks like to navigate divorce when manipulation, control, and emotional abuse are part of the dynamic.

Victoria brings both professional expertise and lived experience—offering clear, grounded insight into how narcissistic behavior shows up in divorce, why so many people feel stuck or confused, and what it actually takes to protect yourself and move forward.

If you’ve ever felt like you’re questioning your reality, being pulled in multiple directions, or struggling to make clear decisions—this conversation will help you understand why—and what to do next.

What You’ll Learn:

What defines a narcissistic or high-conflict partner in divorce
Why many people don’t recognize abuse until they’re deep in it
How manipulation and control show up during the divorce process
The emotional and psychological impact of gaslighting
Why clarity—not reaction—is your greatest asset in high-conflict divorce
How to begin reclaiming your voice, confidence, and decision-making power

You don’t need to have everything figured out—you need clarity. And clarity starts with understanding what you’re dealing with.

At My Divorce Solution, we see this every day—when emotions are high and information is low, decisions become reactive. That’s why financial clarity is critical, especially in high-conflict situations. When you understand your full financial picture, you regain control of your decisions—not just your circumstances.

Resources & Next Steps:

Take the Free Divorce Financial Assessment
Learn about the MDS Financial Portrait™
Join the MDS Community for expert guidance and support

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190. The Hidden Cost of Not Knowing Your Numbers in Divorce

Wed, 08 Apr 2026 11:00:00 -0000

Divorce isn’t just emotional—it’s deeply financial. And when you don’t have a clear understanding of your numbers, your mind fills in the gaps with fear, worst-case scenarios, and assumptions that often aren’t true. In this episode, we break down why financial clarity is the foundation of every smart divorce decision—and what happens when you try to move forward without it. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed, uncertain, or stuck trying to decide what to do next, this conversation will help you understand why clarity—not urgency—is your most powerful first step. This conversation defines what true financial clarity actually means, why it’s not a feeling, and what must be in place before signing anything. If you’re feeling pressure to “just get it done,” this episode will help you pause, refocus, and make decisions that hold up not just today—but years from now. At My Divorce Solution, this is exactly why we focus on financial clarity before decisions are made—so strategy replaces reaction. The Divorce Financial Clarity Checklist Get clear on your numbers before making decisions.

Start with a Free Divorce Financial Assessment

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189. The Most Expensive Divorce Mistake Isn’t Legal: What Financial Clarity Really Means

Wed, 01 Apr 2026 11:00:00 -0000

Most people assume the biggest divorce mistakes happen in the courtroom. They don’t.

In this episode of Divorce Explored, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan break down the real—and often overlooked—risk: making decisions before you truly understand your financial picture.

Because when you move toward agreement without verified numbers, you’re not negotiating from facts—you’re negotiating from assumptions.

This conversation defines what true financial clarity actually means, why it’s not a feeling, and what must be in place before signing anything. If you’re feeling pressure to “just get it done,” this episode will help you pause, refocus, and make decisions that hold up not just today—but years from now.

At My Divorce Solution, this is exactly why we focus on financial clarity before decisions are made—so strategy replaces reaction.

Get clear on your numbers before making decisions. Start with a Free Divorce Financial Assessment: https://myfinancialportrait.com/get-started

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188. The Hidden Divorce: Why You Feel Stuck—and How Financial Clarity Sets You Free

Wed, 25 Mar 2026 11:20:00 -0000

There’s a quiet kind of divorce that doesn’t start with papers being filed. It starts years earlier—when the relationship has already ended emotionally, but nothing changes on the outside.

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan are joined by returning guest Karen Covy—divorce coach, attorney, mediator, and author—to unpack what it really means to feel “stuck” in a marriage.

If you’ve been living in that in-between space—where fear, uncertainty, and obligation keep you from moving forward—this conversation will help you understand why.

More importantly, it will show you what’s actually missing: clarity.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

What a “hidden divorce” really is—and why so many people are living in one
The real reasons people stay stuck (it’s not just fear of divorce)
Why not knowing your financial picture keeps you in indecision
How misinformation from spouses, friends, Google, and AI can lead to costly mistakes
Why divorce is not a binary decision—and the options most people never consider
The role of financial independence and confidence, especially in long-term marriages
How to make decisions using head, heart, and gut—not just fear
Why clarity before action can dramatically reduce conflict, cost, and regret

Resources Mentioned

Visit https://karencovy.com/ to find Karen’s resources

When Happily Ever After Ends (book)
Divorce Roadmap 3.0
Off the Fence Podcast

If you’re questioning your marriage—or quietly feeling stuck—you don’t need to rush into a decision.

Start with clarity.

At My Divorce Solution, we help you understand your full financial picture before you take your next step—so your decisions are grounded in knowledge, not fear.

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187. Financial Discovery in Divorce: What Most People Miss Before Settlement

Wed, 18 Mar 2026 13:09:00 -0000

Most people enter divorce focused on legal steps. But divorce is ultimately a financial process—and the biggest mistakes happen before negotiations even begin.

In this episode of Divorce Explored, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan break down financial discovery in divorce—what it is, why it matters, and what happens when it’s skipped.

If you don’t fully understand your financial picture, you’re negotiating without the full story.

They walk through real client scenarios, including undisclosed retirement accounts, missing financial documents, and investment portfolios with hidden tax consequences. These are the kinds of details that can completely change the outcome of a settlement—and they’re often missed.

This conversation explains the difference between collecting documents and actually verifying them, why incomplete or outdated information leads to costly decisions, and how financial clarity creates confidence during negotiation.

You’ll also learn where attorneys, financial planners, and other professionals fit into the process—and why financial preparation must come first.

The bottom line: financial discovery is not a technical step. It is the foundation of every financial decision in divorce.

If you’re considering divorce, in the middle of the process, or preparing for negotiation, this episode will help you understand what needs to happen before any agreements are made.

Start with clarity before making decisions that impact your financial future.

Learn more or begin with a free Divorce Financial Assessment:
https://mydivorcesolution.com/

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186. Co-Parenting Without Chaos: Tools That Protect Children After Divorce

Wed, 11 Mar 2026 14:48:00 -0000

Children don’t experience divorce through court documents or financial agreements. They experience it through tone, tension, and the daily communication between their parents.

And when that communication stays reactive, unclear, or emotionally charged, children carry that instability with them.

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan sit down with family law attorneys Elle Barr and Rebecca Perra from OurFamilyWizard to discuss one of the most important — and often overlooked — factors affecting children after divorce: parental conflict.

Drawing on decades of family law experience and research like the ACEs (Adverse Childhood Experiences) study, this conversation explores why unmanaged conflict between parents can have lasting emotional and health consequences for children.

But there is good news: conflict can be reduced when parents use the right systems, tools, and communication structures.

You’ll learn how co-parenting platforms like OurFamilyWizard help parents:

Reduce emotional conflict in communication
Create accountability in co-parenting decisions
Track shared child expenses clearly
Eliminate misunderstandings about schedules and reimbursements
Protect children from adult financial stress

You’ll also hear why financial clarity — understanding expenses, support, and shared responsibilities — is critical to building a sustainable co-parenting plan.

This episode is essential listening for parents navigating divorce, co-parenting challenges, or ongoing communication struggles with a former spouse.

Because divorce doesn’t have to damage children. Conflict does — and conflict can be reduced.

Links:

https://mydivorcesolution.com/kids-travel-expenses/
ELLE BARR https://www.ourfamilywizard.com/author/elle-barr
REBECCA PERRA https://www.ourfamilywizard.com/author/rebecca-perra

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185. Real Estate in Divorce: Selling, Buying, and Financial Risks - Part 2 of 2

Wed, 04 Mar 2026 13:00:00 -0000

Real Estate in Divorce: Selling, Buying, and Financial Risks

Hosts: Karen Chellew, Legal Liaison & Co-Founder, My Divorce Solution
Catherine Shanahan, CDFA & Co-Founder, My Divorce Solution

In Part 2 of this conversation on real estate and divorce, Karen and Catherine focus on what happens when real decisions are made—buying property, selling the marital home, or dividing proceeds. While these steps may feel like progress during a difficult time, they can create unexpected financial risks if the details aren’t fully understood.

Through real client scenarios, they explain why clauses written into real estate contracts may not actually protect you in divorce and why agreements like indemnification don’t always provide the security people expect.

Risks of buying property before your divorce is finalized
Why realtor clauses may not protect you in a divorce
Key considerations when selling the marital home
Why splitting proceeds too early can create problems
The limits of indemnification in divorce agreements

Real estate decisions during divorce aren’t just legal or emotional—they’re financial risk decisions. Before buying, selling, or signing anything, it’s important to understand ownership, liability, and how the transaction could impact your final settlement.

If you want verified numbers and a clear strategy before negotiating property division, learn more about the MDS Divorce Financial Portrait™ at:
MyDivorceSolution.com

Part 1 of this episode covers the foundational concepts behind real estate in divorce, including the difference between the deed, mortgage, and promissory note, and why understanding those documents matters before making any decisions.

Episode OverviewWhat You’ll LearnKey TakeawayResourcesListen to Part 1

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184. Divorce Explored: Dividing Real Estate in Divorce - Part 1 of 2

Wed, 25 Feb 2026 18:11:00 -0000

When to Sell, When to Wait, and Why “Feeling Protected” Isn’t the Same as Being Protected

Hosts: Karen Chellew (Legal Liaison & Co-Founder, My Divorce Solution) + Catherine Shanahan (Divorce Financial Specialist, CDFA & Co-Founder, My Divorce Solution)

Real estate is often the biggest (and most emotionally charged) asset in a divorce — and it’s where rushed decisions can create long-term financial risk. In this episode, Karen and Catherine break down the real meaning of “protected” when you’re selling, refinancing, buying, or co-owning property during divorce.

They explain the critical difference between being on the note, the mortgage/deed of trust, and the deed — and why misunderstanding those documents can leave your credit, liability, and future borrowing power exposed even if your divorce agreement says you’re “off the hook.”

You’ll also hear real-life scenarios from recent clients: the spouse who didn’t know they were still on the mortgage, the hidden HELOC that sat unresolved for 20 years, and the buyer who thought a “divorce clause” in a purchase contract would protect him (it didn’t). The core message is simple: real estate decisions in divorce are financial risk decisions — and clarity is what actually protects you.

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183. The Financial Gap No One Talks About in Divorce — with Emily Pollock

Wed, 18 Feb 2026 09:30:00 -0000

Divorce is not just emotional. It’s economic.

In this powerful episode of the We Chat Divorce, Karen and Catherine sit down with Emily Pollock, partner at Donohoe Talbert LLP and one of Forbes Advisor’s Top 10 Divorce Attorneys in New York City.

With over 15 years of experience in high-net-worth matrimonial law, Emily brings a rare combination of legal precision and psychological awareness to the conversation.

Together, they unpack:

Why divorce creates a financial gap — especially for women
The truth about modern maintenance (alimony) laws
Why “lifetime support” is largely a thing of the past
What happens when wealth looks bigger than it actually is
The danger of entering mediation or litigation unprepared
Why your attorney’s job is to put you in your best position legally — and why that requires financial clarity first

This conversation is honest, strategic, and deeply grounding.

About Our Guest

Emily Pollock is a partner at Donohoe Talbert LLP in New York City. She focuses on high-net-worth divorce, complex asset division, prenuptial and postnuptial agreements, and cases involving businesses, trusts, and international financial structures.

She was recently named one of Forbes Advisor’s Top 10 Divorce Attorneys in NYC.

She is licensed in New York.

Website: https://donohoetalbert.com/attorneys/emily-s-pollock/

At My Divorce Solution, we believe divorce is financial first.

Before you hire an attorney.Before you agree to mediation.Before you react emotionally.

You need verified clarity.

The MDS Financial Portrait™ gives you:

A full inventory of assets and debts
Lifestyle analysis
Support calculations
Settlement scenarios
Organized financial disclosures
A structured plan for negotiation

When you walk into an attorney’s office prepared, everything changes.

Start with clarity.

👉 Take the Free Divorce Financial Assessment at MyDivorceSolution.com

👉 Join the MDS Community for expert guidance and live Q&As

You do not need to decide everything today. You are allowed to gather information. You are allowed to prepare before reacting.

Protect your peace. Let knowledge be your power.

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182. Amicable Divorce, Uncontested Divorce & California’s 2026 Joint Petition: Why Financial Clarity Still Matters

Wed, 11 Feb 2026 15:45:00 -0000

Many couples going through divorce say the same thing: “We’re amicable. We just want to get this done.”

In this episode of Divorce Explored, a series within the We Chat Divorce podcast, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan unpack what amicable actually means—and why emotional calm is not the same as financial clarity.

With California introducing a new joint divorce petition option in 2026, couples may be able to start the divorce process together with less initial friction. But as Karen and Catherine explain, this procedural change does not reduce the financial work required to reach a fair, sustainable settlement.

This conversation breaks down the real differences between contested vs. uncontested divorce, the hidden costs of rushing to agreement, and the financial red flags that quietly turn “easy divorces” into expensive ones.

If you’re considering an uncontested or joint filing—and want to stay amicable without sacrificing your financial future—this episode is essential listening.

The difference between being emotionally amicable and financially transparent
Why agreeing quickly can be more expensive than slowing down
What California’s 2026 joint petition option actually changes—and what it doesn’t
Common financial “agreement killers” in uncontested divorces
Why keeping the house without a budget often backfires
How missing documents, unclear income, or mixed business expenses derail settlements
Why financial clarity can prevent conflict—not create it
What it truly means to compare assets fairly (cash vs. retirement vs. property)

Clarity is not conflict. Asking questions does not make a divorce adversarial—it makes it informed.
Uncontested divorce still requires full financial discovery. Skipping this step creates costly mistakes.
Joint petitions may lower emotional tension, but they don’t reduce financial responsibility.
Rushing creates regret. Many uncontested divorces become contested after new information emerges.
If you can’t explain your agreement in plain English, you’re not ready to sign it.

You may need more structure and support if:

You can’t access financial statements
Income is variable, unclear, or disputed
Business and personal spending are mixed
New debt or unexplained transfers appear
One spouse is afraid to ask financial questions
The plan relies on “it will all work out”

At My Divorce Solution, we help individuals and couples get financially organized before legal negotiations begin—so decisions are based on verified data, realistic budgets, and long-term stability.

Our MDS Financial Portrait™ helps clients:

Organize and verify financial documents
Understand true cash flow and post-divorce budgets
Model settlement scenarios before committing
Avoid expensive renegotiations and legal waste

Learn more at mydivorcesolution.com

Considering an uncontested or amicable divorce
Curious about California’s 2026 joint petition option
Afraid of making a financial mistake you can’t undo
Trying to stay cooperative without giving away too much
Wanting clarity before talking to attorneys

We Chat Divorce is the #1 podcast for financial divorce preparation, hosted by Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan—co-founders of My Divorce Solution. Each episode delivers honest, grounded conversations about the financial realities of divorce so listeners can move forward with confidence, not fear.

Subscribe, share, and leave a review if this episode helped you. Clarity changes everything.

What You’ll LearnKey TakeawaysFinancial Red Flags to Slow DownHow My Divorce Solution HelpsListen If You Are:About the Podcast

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181. Forensic Accounting in Divorce: What It Can (and Can’t) Do, with Sarah Nanchanatt

Wed, 04 Feb 2026 12:30:00 -0000

When people hear “forensic accountant” during divorce, expectations run high. Many assume it means hidden money will automatically be uncovered or that every financial mystery will be solved. The reality is more nuanced—and far more strategic.

In this episode, we sit down with Sara Nanchanatt, founder of SN Forensics, to demystify what forensic accounting actually does in divorce, when it’s worth the investment, and when it’s not.

Sara brings clarity to one of the most misunderstood (and expensive) parts of the divorce process—helping listeners understand how to make informed, cost-effective decisions instead of emotionally driven ones.

This conversation is especially important if you’re navigating a divorce involving business ownership, complex finances, cash-based income, or concerns about missing information.

What We Cover in This Episode

What a forensic accountant really does in divorce—and what they can’t do
Why not every divorce requires forensic accounting
How attorneys often default to “we need a forensic” (and why that matters)
When business valuations make financial sense—and when they don’t
The red flags forensic accountants actually look for
Why “cash businesses” and “hidden assets” aren’t always traceable
The difference between consulting, expert witness, and rebuttal roles
How limited-scope forensic work can save thousands
What questions to ask before hiring a forensic accountant
How preparation and document review can prevent wasted legal and expert fees

Key Takeaways for Listeners ✔️ Forensic accounting is a tool, not a guarantee

✔️ Spending money without a clear scope often leads to frustration and disappointment

✔️ The goal isn’t to “prove wrongdoing”—it’s to understand the numbers well enough to make informed decisions

✔️ Preparation before engaging experts can dramatically reduce costs

✔️ A strong divorce team communicates clearly and works collaboratively

Why This Conversation Matters Divorce already brings emotional overload. Adding unnecessary experts—without understanding the likely outcome—can escalate costs and stress without improving results.

This episode reinforces a core MDS belief: Fear is expensive. Clarity is not.

Understanding when forensic accounting adds value—and when it doesn’t—puts control back where it belongs: with you.

About Our Guest Sara Nanchanatt is a forensic accountant and business valuation expert with experience spanning Charles River Associates, FINRA, and complex financial investigations across multiple industries. Through SN Forensics, she works with individuals and divorce teams to uncover financial truth while prioritizing efficiency, transparency, and realistic outcomes.

🔗 Learn more: https://www.snforensics.com

(Free consultations available when referred through My Divorce Solution)

About My Divorce Solution At My Divorce Solution, we help individuals prepare financially before decisions are made—so strategy replaces reaction. Our Financial Portrait™ gives you verified numbers, clarity around your marital estate, and a roadmap for negotiation that saves time, money, and emotional energy.

Take the Free Divorce Financial Assessment
Join the MDS Community for expert guidance and live Q&A
Listen to more episodes of We Chat Divorce

Questions or topic requests? Email: wechat@ck11.net 🎧 Subscribe, rate, and share this episode with someone who needs clarity💬 Remember: You don’t have to decide everything today. You’re allowed to gather information first.

Protect your peace. Let knowledge be your power.

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180. Divorce, Mortgages, and the Cost of Bad Decisions with Jody Bruns

Wed, 28 Jan 2026 15:37:00 -0000

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew, Legal Liaison, and Catherine Shanahan, CDFA®, sit down with Jody Bruns, founder of the Certified Divorce Lending Professional (CDLP®) certification and the creator of the divorce mortgage planning profession.

The conversation focuses on one of the most expensive and misunderstood parts of divorce: the marital home and the mortgage attached to it. With interest rates, refinancing challenges, and equity decisions shaping modern divorce settlements, this episode breaks down why housing decisions made without preparation often lead to permanent financial consequences.

In This Episode, We Cover

Why you cannot simply remove a spouse from a mortgage after divorce
The difference between a traditional mortgage lender and a Certified Divorce Lending Professional (CDLP®)
How refinancing really works — including escrow accounts, taxes, insurance, and closing costs
Why alimony and child support payment structure matters for mortgage approval
What lenders require to use support income for qualification
The financial risks of keeping the house versus selling it
How capital gains taxes and filing status changes impact long-term equity
Why mortgage assumptions are complex, limited, and not guaranteed
The dangers of quitclaim deeds and poorly written settlement language
How title changes after divorce can expose homeowners to liens, probate issues, and loss of control

Key Takeaway You may want to keep the house. You may even be able to afford it. That does not mean you can qualify to keep it — or that it’s the smartest financial decision.

Without coordinated legal, financial, and mortgage planning, housing decisions in divorce often become the most costly mistakes people make.

About Our Guest Jody Bruns has over 35 years of experience in mortgage and finance and is nationally recognized for her work at the intersection of divorce, real estate, and lending. Through her certification program and professional training, she helps divorcing homeowners and divorce professionals navigate housing decisions with clarity and strategy.

🔗 Websites DivorceLendingAssociation.com / JodyBruns.com

🔗 Social Instagram: @JodyBrunsOfficial LinkedIn: jodylbruns

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179. AI vs. Divorce Strategy: Why a QDRO Answer Is Not a Settlement Plan

Wed, 21 Jan 2026 12:30:00 -0000

AI can explain what a QDRO is — but it cannot protect your financial future.

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan break down why relying on AI for retirement division in divorce leads to costly, irreversible mistakes. They explain what QDROs actually do, what AI misses, and why verified plan rules, tax impact, and liquidity matter — especially in grey divorce.

If retirement accounts are part of your divorce, this conversation will change how you approach every decision.

MDS Financial Portrait™

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Source article: https://www.thestreet.com/retirement/gray-divorce-shifts-retirement-one-legal-document-saves-your-401k

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178. Staying Calm, Clear, and Confident in a High-Conflict Divorce with Karen McMahon

Wed, 14 Jan 2026 15:43:00 -0000

In this powerful episode of We Chat Divorce, we sit down with Karen McMahon, high-conflict divorce strategist, certified divorce coach, and founder of Journey Beyond Divorce.

Karen shares her deeply personal story of surviving a prolonged, high-conflict divorce—and how that experience became the foundation of her life’s work helping others navigate divorce with emotional clarity and confidence.

Together, we explore what it really means to “keep your side of the street clean” during divorce, why reacting emotionally is one of the most expensive mistakes people make, and how staying calm, clear, and confident directly impacts both your legal outcomes and financial future.

This episode is essential listening for anyone feeling overwhelmed, triggered, or stuck in defense mode during divorce—especially in high-conflict situations.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode

Why high-conflict divorce often makes the calmer spouse look like the problem
The true meaning of “keeping your side of the street clean”
How emotional dysregulation leads to rushed, costly decisions
Why mindset, emotional regulation, and boundaries are foundational—not optional
How to pause before responding to texts, emails, or demands
Why financial clarity and emotional clarity must work together
How inner work protects your children and breaks generational cycles
Why a strong settlement alone does not guarantee peace or freedom
How to reclaim your confidence during—and after—divorce Resources Mentioned

Journey Beyond Divorce Website: https://www.jbddivorcesupport.com
Journey Beyond Divorce Podcast (425+ episodes)
Rapid Relief Call with a Journey Beyond Divorce coach: https://www.rapidreliefcall.com

At My Divorce Solution, we see this every day:People don’t make poor financial decisions because they’re irresponsible—they make them because they’re overwhelmed, reactive, and emotionally flooded.

That’s why we believe divorce preparation must include both financial clarity and emotional grounding.

When you understand your numbers and regulate your responses, you stop reacting—and start leading.

If you’re navigating divorce and feel like you’re constantly on defense, you don’t need to decide everything today.

Ready for Your Next Step?

👉 Start with clarity.👉 Get organized.👉 Protect your future.

Visit MyDivorceSolution.com to learn how the MDS Financial Portrait™ helps you understand your full financial picture before decisions get expensive.

And be sure to join the MDS Community—a safe, judgment-free space for trusted resources, expert guidance, and live support.

About the Guest

Karen McMahon is a high-conflict divorce strategist, certified divorce coach, and founder of Journey Beyond Divorce. She is also the host of the Journey Beyond Divorce podcast and co-author of Stepping Out of Chaos: Turning Pain into Possibility.

Karen has supported thousands of individuals worldwide in navigating divorce with clarity, confidence, and personal growth—helping them move beyond survival mode and into empowered decision-making.

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177. Divorce Is a Business Deal: Strategy for High-Conflict Divorce with Courtney Harkness

Wed, 07 Jan 2026 13:36:00 -0000

High-conflict divorces thrive on chaos. In this episode of We Chat Divorce, hosts Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan sit down with divorce strategist and coach Courtney Harkness to explain why treating divorce like a business deal—not an emotional battleground—can dramatically shift power, protect assets, and preserve peace.

Courtney, creator of the Divorce Is a Business Deal framework, shares how successful professionals can stop reacting and start leading their divorce with strategy. Drawing from her own experience co-founding a private-equity-backed company and navigating a high-conflict divorce, Courtney breaks down the three-phase approach she uses with clients: Stabilize, Strategize, Execute.

You’ll learn why emotional stabilization must come first, especially when dealing with narcissistic or high-conflict spouses; how reacting fuels conflict and legal costs; and why “no sudden moves” is one of the most powerful rules in divorce. The conversation also explores why rushing to hire an attorney without financial clarity often escalates conflict—and how preparation saves time, money, and long-term regret.

Karen and Catherine connect Courtney’s framework directly to the My Divorce Solution methodology, emphasizing the importance of verified financial data, lifestyle analysis, and scenario planning before negotiations begin. Together, they explain how clarity replaces fear, how strategy changes leverage, and why winning in divorce isn’t “beating” your spouse—it’s getting out with your future intact.

Key Topics Covered:

High-conflict divorce strategy
Divorce and narcissistic dynamics
Stabilize, Strategize, Execute framework
Financial preparation before legal action
Why reacting is costly—and preparation is powerful
How to protect assets, peace, and decision-making capacity

If you’re navigating a high-conflict or high-stakes divorce and feel stuck in reaction mode, this episode offers a grounded, strategic path forward.

Next Steps: Start with clarity. Take the free Divorce Financial Assessment or learn more about the MDS Financial Portrait™ at MyDivorceSolution.com. Follow Courtney Harkness at DivorceStrategy.com and on Instagram @divorce.strategy.

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176. Divorce Explored: Your Divorce Financial Roadmap: A Clear Path Forward

Wed, 31 Dec 2025 12:10:00 -0000

Most people would never start a cross-country trip without a map — yet that’s exactly how divorce begins for millions of people every year.

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan break down the concept almost no one talks about early enough: the financial divorce roadmap.

Divorce is not just emotional — it is one of the largest financial transactions most people will ever make. Without a clear financial roadmap, decisions get made from fear, pressure, and incomplete information — and those decisions can cost you tens of thousands of dollars over time.

Karen and Catherine explain what a real financial roadmap looks like, how it reduces conflict and legal fees, and why clarity — not speed — leads to better outcomes.

If you’re feeling overwhelmed, rushed, or pressured to “just get it done,” this episode will help you pause, regain control, and make decisions that actually protect your future. What You’ll Learn in This Episode

Why divorce requires a financial roadmap, not just legal steps
The most common “detours” that quietly destroy long-term financial security
Why settling before accounts are verified is one of the biggest mistakes people make
How emotions like fear, guilt, and urgency drive bad financial decisions
The difference between reacting and negotiating with confidence
Why most divorce conflict is actually about uncertainty, not money
How a roadmap allows you to pivot when things change — without panicking

Key Takeaways

Divorce without verified financial information is gambling with your future
Legal progress does not equal financial protection
A roadmap is a decision tool, not a spreadsheet
Preparation reduces conflict, legal fees, and regret
You have the right to pause when information is missing

Red Flags You’re Divorcing Without a Map

You’re negotiating without seeing full statements
You’re keeping expensive assets without knowing the true monthly cost
You’re relying on verbal numbers or assumptions
You don’t know what you need to live each month
Your plan is “I just hope this works out”

At My Divorce Solution, we call this roadmap the MDS Financial Portrait™ — a verified, structured view of your full financial landscape before permanent decisions are made. Because fear is expensive. Clarity is not.

This episode is educational only and does not provide legal or tax advice. Always consult your professional team for guidance specific to your situation.

Start with clarity: take the free Divorce Financial Assessment
Share this episode with someone who’s starting divorce without realizing they need a map

Join the MDS Community for expert guidance and live Q&A support

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175. Divorce During the Holidays: How to Protect Your Peace, Your Wallet, and Your Future

Wed, 24 Dec 2025 09:30:00 -0000

The holidays are supposed to be joyful — but when you’re navigating divorce, they can feel emotionally overwhelming, financially stressful, and deeply isolating.

In this episode of Divorce Explored on the We Chat Divorce Podcast, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan have an honest, grounding conversation about how to survive the holiday season without falling apart — emotionally or financially.

This is not a parenting episode. This is a human episode.

Karen and Catherine normalize the reality that joy and grief often coexist during divorce — and explain why boundaries around money, time, energy, and expectations are essential right now. You’ll hear practical guidance, real personal stories, and clear permission to do the holidays differently this year.

Why it’s normal to feel grateful and gutted at the same time
How holiday expectations quietly increase financial stress during divorce
The most important money boundaries to set before you say yes to anything
Why “keeping up appearances” can cost you far more than you realize
How to avoid holiday debt that follows you into January
Thoughtful gift strategies that don’t require overspending
Why co-parenting during the holidays is not a competition
Time and energy boundaries that protect your nervous system
How to say no — without guilt — to events that drain you
Navigating the holidays with: Younger children, Adult children, or No children
How forgiveness can be a gift to yourself, not a pass for others
Why different holidays don’t mean bad holidays — just new ones
How the financial and emotional choices you make in December show up in January

You are not failing because the holidays feel heavy.
Boundaries are not selfish — they protect your future and your stability.
You don’t need to explain or defend your divorce to anyone.
January will come, and preparation now creates confidence later.

Choose one financial boundary and one emotional boundary to honor this season. Write them down. Keep them visible. That’s enough.

At My Divorce Solution, we help you replace financial fear with clarity. Our process begins with a Lifestyle Analysis — real numbers, real insight, and a clear understanding of what you can afford before decisions are made.

Learn how the MDS Financial Portrait™ gives you verified numbers, expert guidance, and a personalized roadmap to protect your financial future.

👉 Visit MyDivorceSolution.com

We also invite you to join the MDS Community — a free, supportive space with live Q&As, expert guidance, and conversations with people who truly understand what you’re going through.

You don’t have to do this alone.

If this episode resonated with you, please like, follow, share, and leave a comment. Your experience may be exactly what someone else needs to hear.

Take a breath. Protect your peace — and your wallet. Let knowledge be your power.

In this episode, we cover:Key truths we want you to remember:Your simple holiday assignment:Need help navigating the financial side of divorce?Join the MDS Community

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174. Divorcing a Narcissist: How to Break the Emotional Grip and Get Financial Clarity with Dr. Onalee

Wed, 17 Dec 2025 14:56:00 -0000

Narcissistic partners don’t just manipulate emotions — they manipulate money, security, and your sense of stability. In divorce, that mix is dangerous: fear clouds judgment, and confusion gets expensive.

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew (Legal Liaison) and Catherine Shanahan (Certified Divorce Financial Analyst) sit down with Dr. Onalee, an expert in narcissistic relationship dynamics, to break down what actually helps you recover — emotionally and financially — when you’re dealing with gaslighting, coercion, and high-conflict behavior.

You’ll learn Dr. Onalee’s DONE framework (a 4-step recovery process), why “trying to win” arguments backfires with narcissistic personalities, and how verified financial clarity becomes the backbone that helps you stop reacting and start leading.

How narcissistic dynamics show up as financial control, dependency, and fear
Why people stay: the real role of financial paralysis (even when there’s money)
The love-bombing → withdrawal cycle and why it keeps people hooked
The counterintuitive strategy that protects your peace: neutrality, not engagement
Why you don’t need to prove, protect, or defend your story to “flying monkeys”
A practical mindset shift for long marriages: you’re not “too late” — you’re waking up
A crucial divorce truth: you may not need to defend yourself socially, but you do need to prove assets with documents
What to do if you’re afraid to ask for financial records or worried your spouse will find out you’re preparing
Why “lawyering up” too early can pour gasoline on the fire — and what to do first instead

Dr. Onalee teaches a simple framework to move from stuck to stable:

D — Decide you’re done
O — Look at the origin (the wound/pattern being triggered)
N — No more (boundaries + detachment from proving yourself)
E — Enjoy your life (rebuild identity, peace, and future)

If you’re dealing with a high-conflict, narcissistic-leaning spouse, clarity is your leverage. When you know the numbers and have documents to support them, you stop negotiating from fear — and start making decisions that protect your future.

Dr. Onalee specializes in helping people recover from narcissistic relationship patterns, rebuild self-worth, and create healthier relationships after high-control dynamics. She’s also the host of Coming Home with Dr. Onalee.

Find Dr. Onalee:

Instagram: @Dr.Onalee

In this episode, we cover:Dr. Onalee’s DONE Method (the 4 steps)Key takeawayAbout Dr. OnaleeYouTube/Podcast: Coming Home with Dr. Onalee

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173. Expert Divorce Advice with Susan Guthrie: Mediation, Financial Clarity & the Real Cost of Divorce

Wed, 10 Dec 2025 13:00:00 -0000

In this powerful episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen and Catherine sit down with Susan Guthrie—one of the nation’s leading family law attorneys, top divorce mediators, and a recent guest on the Oprah podcast—to break down the realities of navigating divorce in today’s turbulent economic climate.

With inflation, job uncertainty, rising debt, and shrinking safety nets affecting families across the country, divorce has become more complicated, more expensive, and more emotionally overwhelming. Susan brings 35 years of experience to this conversation and explains why fear and confusion escalate when people attempt to negotiate or compromise without verified financial information.

Together, Karen, Catherine, and Susan expose some of the biggest misconceptions surrounding mediation, financial disclosures, attorney roles, and the belief that a net-worth statement or Excel spreadsheet is “good enough.” They outline the critical need for accurate, neutral financial clarity—something the MDS Financial Portrait™ uniquely provides—to prevent stalled negotiations, runaway legal fees, and emotionally driven decisions that people regret later.

Whether you’re considering divorce, preparing for mediation, or already working with an attorney, this conversation offers the actionable guidance needed to move forward with confidence, strategy, and peace of mind.

Connect with Susan Guthrie

Explore her podcast and resources: DivorceAndBeyondPod.com Use her new AI-powered episode search tool to find topics like alimony, gray divorce, co-parenting, and more.

Resources Mentioned

MDS Financial Portrait™⁠ — the gold-standard tool for financial clarity in divorce
Free Financial Assessment — learn where you stand and what steps make sense

MDS Community — expert-led Live Q&A events and support

Ready to Take the Next Step? Whether you're just beginning the divorce process or have been stuck in uncertainty for years, financial clarity is your strongest advantage.

Start with the Free Financial Assessment, explore the Divorce Financial Portrait™, and step into mediation or legal discussions with confidence—not fear.

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172. Divorcing a Narcissist: Post-Separation Abuse, Financial Manipulation & Finding Your Power with Jackie Miller

Wed, 03 Dec 2025 14:00:00 -0000

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan sit down with high-conflict divorce coach and post-separation abuse strategist Jackie Miller to talk about what it really looks like to divorce a narcissist, survive Crazy Town, and protect yourself from financial abuse during and after divorce.

Jackie shares her story of a 16+ year emotionally and financially abusive marriage, how post-separation abuse showed up through the legal and court system, and why so many smart, successful women still feel “crazy” and powerless when trying to leave a controlling or narcissistic spouse.

Together, we unpack how manipulation, false narratives, financial control, and threats of litigation are used to keep you spinning — and how nervous system regulation, financial clarity, and the right support team can help you reclaim your power, make smart financial decisions, and move forward.

If you’re feeling stuck in a high-conflict divorce, being gaslit about money, or overwhelmed by attorneys, forensics, and financial documents, this episode will give you language, validation, and a roadmap for your next steps.

About Our Guest – Jackie Miller

Jackie Miller is a high-conflict divorce coach and post-separation abuse strategist who helps women and out-spouses disentangle from toxic relationships, reclaim their energy, and stop reacting to narcissistic manipulation — especially inside the family court system.

A survivor of a 16.5-year emotionally and financially abusive marriage followed by a high-conflict divorce, Jackie blends lived experience, neuroscience, and practical strategy in her work. She is also the host of the podcast “Out of Crazy Town: Your Guide to Divorcing a Narcissist,” where she speaks directly to those navigating the chaos of narcissistic and high-conflict divorce.

Connect with Jackie:

Website: jackiemillercoaching.com
Podcast: Out of Crazy Town – Your Guide to Divorcing a Narcissist (available on major podcast platforms)
Instagram & YouTube: @outofcrazytown

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171. Thanksgiving, Money, and Divorce: How to Navigate the Holidays With Clarity Instead of Crisis

Wed, 26 Nov 2025 13:00:00 -0000

The holidays can magnify every stress you’re carrying—especially if you’re quietly preparing for a separation, navigating financial uncertainty, or simply trying to hold things together one more season. In this special Thanksgiving episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan break down how to manage holiday emotions and protect your financial stability when divorce is on your mind or already underway.

With decades of combined legal and financial expertise, the co-founders of My Divorce Solution (MDS) help you understand what really matters right now:

✔ Staying grounded

✔ Avoiding financial mistakes that follow you into the new year

✔ Keeping perspective when emotions run high

✔ Knowing what spending today means for your marital estate tomorrow

This episode delivers clear, actionable insights to help you move from stress to strategy—because clarity is power, especially during the holidays.

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170. Rewiring Fear: Divorce, the Brain and the Path Back to Yourself with Isabelle Ulenaers

Wed, 19 Nov 2025 13:00:00 -0000

Your brain isn’t wired to make you happy — it’s wired to keep you safe. During divorce, that “safety system” often looks like fear, guilt, second-guessing, and staying stuck in situations that no longer serve you. In this powerful episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan sit down with neuropsychologist and therapist Isabelle Ulenaers, creator of the UNTAMED™ Framework, to unpack how your brain and nervous system respond to divorce — and how you can rewire fear so you can move from survival mode into self-trust. Isabelle explains why your brain treats divorce like a “lion attack,” how the amygdala, fight-flight-freeze response, and window of tolerance affect your decisions, and why so many women feel guilty for wanting to leave a relationship that “looks fine on paper.” Together, they explore silent divorce, gray divorce, burnout, numbness, and the subtle ways we abandon ourselves to keep the peace. You’ll also hear how daily grounding practices, nervous-system regulation, and practical financial clarity can calm your brain’s alarm system so you can prepare for divorce with a clear mind — instead of letting fear, urgency, or guilt drive the process. This episode is a roadmap for anyone who feels stuck, scared, or unsure whether they’re “allowed” to want more from their life, love, and money story. Resources Connect with Isabelle Ulenaers to learn more about her work, the UNTAMED™ Framework, and how she supports ambitious women through divorce and major life transitions. https://www.isabelleulenaers.com/ https://www.instagram.com/isabelle.ulenaers/ Turn Fear into Financial Facts with My Divorce Solution Visit MyDivorceSolution.com to learn how the MDS Financial Portrait™ gives you a verified, complete view of your marital estate so you can calm financial fear with facts and make confident settlement decisions. https://mydivorcesolution.com/ Join the Free MDS Community: https://community.mydivorcesolution.com/

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169. Rebranding Divorce: Post-Divorce Growth Cycle, Money & Self-Care

Wed, 12 Nov 2025 13:10:00 -0000

Rebranding Divorce: The Post-Divorce Growth Cycle—Radical Self-Care, Money Confidence, and Community

Founders Mimi Sullivan and Carolyn Bilyak of Rebranding Divorce join Karen and Catherine to unpack the Post-Divorce Growth Cycle—a practical framework that helps women move from survival to confidence through radical self-care, money clarity, and healthy relationships. We discuss why community accelerates healing, how nervous-system awareness changes your money story, and why clear financial data—not emotion—drives better post-divorce decisions.

Key Takeaways

Clarity compounds: build confidence in one pillar (money or self-care) and the others strengthen.
Regulate, then calculate: calm the nervous system so you can actually work the numbers.
Community beats isolation: safe spaces prevent ruminating, revenge-energy, and rushed decisions.
Data protects you: verified financials reduce mistakes, regrets, and legal costs.
Growth is cyclical: each pass through the cycle allows deeper work (from budgeting → investing, from rest → purpose).

If you’re thinking about divorce—or already in it—and want fact-based financial clarity, start with our Free Financial Assessment. Then use the MDS Financial Portrait™ to see verified numbers, disclosures, and your settlement options so you can move forward with confidence.

Have a question for Karen & Catherine? Email: wechat@ck11.net

Resources & Links

Rebranding Divorce — ⁠rebrandingdivorce.com⁠
Free MDS Financial Assessment — ⁠https://myfinancialportrait.com/⁠
MDS Community (Free) —⁠ https://community.mydivorcesolution.com/⁠
MDS Financial Portrait™ — a verified, flat-fee roadmap to divorce financial clarity

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168. Mediation Mistakes That Can Cost You Thousands | Divorce Financial Clarity Explained

Wed, 05 Nov 2025 13:14:00 -0000

Thinking about divorce mediation? Before you walk into the room, ask yourself one question: What exactly are you mediating if you don’t even know what you have? In this episode of Divorce Explored, Karen Chellew (Legal Liaison) and Catherine Shanahan, CDFA® (Certified Divorce Financial Analyst) from My Divorce Solution reveal the most common — and most costly — mistake they see every week: people going into mediation without complete, verified financial information. They’ll show you why financial clarity is the strategy, and why mediation is just a tool. What You’ll Learn:

Why “just mediating to get it over with” can cost you thousands later
The real difference between asset division and spousal support
How a “55/45 split” can be misleading (and not actually in your favor)
How to avoid the pressure of signing after 10+ hours at the table
When to say “I’m not ready” — and why that’s your legal right
How the MDS Financial Portrait™ prepares you for mediation with facts, not fear.

Before You Mediate:

Verify all assets and debts (not just what someone says out loud)
Confirm income for both parties
Know your realistic support range
Review property division scenarios
Identify your non-negotiables
Get your MDS Financial Portrait™ to organize it all

About My Divorce Solution: Founded by Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan, CDFA®, My Divorce Solution has helped over 15,000 families navigate divorce with financial confidence and clarity, saving over $1M in legal costs using their signature process — the MDS Financial Portrait™

Start with their free Financial Assessment, then get your verified Financial Portrait™ to walk into mediation empowered, informed, and prepared.

🌐 Website: https://mydivorcesolution.com

👥 Join our free Divorce support community: https://community.mydivorcesolution.com/

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167. Shove Your Shoulds: Bold Decision-Making After Divorce with Jessica Frew

Wed, 29 Oct 2025 12:00:00 -0000

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan sit down once again with the inspiring Jessica Frew—wife, ex-wife, mom, stepmom, podcast host, and now author of Shove Your Shoulds. Jessica shares how her unique journey through divorce, co-parenting, and remarriage has shaped her mission to help women step out of overthinking and into powerful decision-making.

Jessica opens up about:

Navigating divorce after discovering her husband was gay—and why she chose to stay married for several years after knowing.
How she and her ex built a co-parenting relationship rooted in respect and friendship, putting their daughter first.
Why letting go of “shoulds” frees us from shame and judgment, allowing space for clarity and confidence.
The power of informed, intentional choices—whether staying, leaving, or rebuilding life after divorce.
Why confidence comes not from having all the answers, but from taking action, one step at a time.

Karen, Catherine, and Jessica also discuss how financial clarity—through tools like the MDS Financial Portrait™—helps women face uncertainty with strength, whether they decide to stay married or divorce.

Knowledge is power – facing your reality (financial and personal) allows you to make empowered decisions.
Be willing to pivot – life may not go as planned, but that doesn’t mean it can’t still be good.
Let go of the shoulds – true confidence comes from action, not perfection.

Learn more about Jessica and grab her new book Shove Your Shoulds: shoveyourshoulds.com
Follow Jessica on Instagram: @heyjessicafrew
Explore the MDS Financial Portrait™: mydivorcesolution.com

We Chat Divorce is brought to you by My Divorce Solution, the #1 resource for financial clarity during divorce.

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166. Truth, Timing & Taxes: When Shortcuts Backfire in Divorce

Wed, 22 Oct 2025 12:00:00 -0000

In this Divorce Explored episode of We Chat Divorce, MDS co-founders Catherine Shanahan, CDFA®, and Karen Chellew, Legal Liaison, reveal how common financial shortcuts can cost divorcing couples thousands—sometimes hundreds of thousands—of dollars. From so-called “honesty policies” that skip verification, to misclassifying home-sale proceeds as income, to cashing out retirement accounts too soon, Catherine and Karen unpack the real impact of assumptions, missing documents, and misunderstood advice.

They’ll show you why verified data—not verbal promises—is the only way to protect your financial future. Whether you’re preparing for mediation, negotiating a settlement, or already divorced, this episode will help you spot red flags before they turn into regret.

You’ll Learn How To:

Identify the red flags that signal financial shortcuts in divorce
Understand when assets ≠ income in support calculations
Avoid costly mistakes when dividing or liquidating retirement accounts
Confirm accurate valuation dates and tax implications
Use the MDS Financial Portrait™ to model real cash flow before you sign

Resources Mentioned

Free MDS Financial Assessment – discover your starting point
The Divorce Financial Portrait™ – verified data = financial clarity
MDS Community – connect for support and education

Listen & Subscribe - Follow We Chat Divorce on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube for weekly financial divorce insights that turn fear into focus, focus into knowledge, and knowledge into power.

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165. The Truth About Divorce & Family Law: Why Communication, Costs, and Trust Matter Most, with Kirk Stange

Wed, 15 Oct 2025 12:00:00 -0000

What really happens behind the scenes at a divorce law firm? In this eye-opening episode of We Chat Divorce, co-founders Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan sit down with Attorney Kirk Stange, Founding Partner of Stange Law Firm, to uncover the truth about how family law really works—from the attorney’s side of the table.

Kirk has guided clients through divorce for more than 20 years, leading a firm with offices across 30 states. He joins Karen and Catherine for a candid conversation about what makes a great divorce attorney, why so many clients lose trust in the legal process, and how preparation and financial clarity can change everything.

Together, they discuss:

What makes a lawyer truly good at family law
Why some attorneys avoid going to trial (and what that means for you)
How judges pressure lawyers to settle cases
The real story behind billable hours and “winning” in divorce
Why financially prepared clients make better decisions

If you’ve ever felt frustrated or confused by your attorney—or just want to know how to work smarter with one—this episode will change the way you see the legal side of divorce.

👉 Learn how the MDS Financial Portrait™ gives you the clarity and confidence to protect your future and collaborate effectively with your attorney. mydivorcesolution.com

Hosts: Karen Chellew, Legal Liaison & Co-Founder of My Divorce Solution -and- Catherine Shanahan, CDFA®, Divorce Financial Specialist & Co-Founder of My Divorce Solution

Guest: Kirk C. Stange, Founding Partner & President, Stange Law Firm

🌐familylawrepresentation.com | stangelawfirm.com

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164. Gray Divorce After 50: Silent Divorce, Loud Truths & Finding Financial Clarity

Wed, 08 Oct 2025 12:00:00 -0000

If you’re over 50 and quietly wondering whether to stay or go, you’re not alone. In this episode of We Chat Divorce: Divorce Explored, My Divorce Solution co-founders Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan, CDFA®, break down the real truths behind gray divorce—and why so many couples live in a silent divorce long before they ever make a decision.

They share personal stories, client experiences, and the financial insights that can help you stop the emotional bleed and start building a plan. Whether you’re thinking about divorce, living in financial fog, or simply craving clarity, this conversation will help you move from confusion to confidence.

You’ll learn:

What a silent divorce really looks like—and how to recognize if you’re in one
The biggest financial mistakes people make in gray divorce
Why clarity—not conflict—should guide your next steps
How to use the MDS Financial Portrait™ to see your complete financial picture
Why Step Zero (getting organized) is the most important part of your divorce journey

About We Chat Divorce

Hosted by Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan, CDFA®, co-founders of My Divorce Solution, We Chat Divorce explores the financial, emotional, and practical sides of divorce so you can move forward with clarity and confidence.

Learn more about The MDS Financial Portrait™:https://mydivorcesolution.com/financial-portrait
Join the MDS Community for guidance, resources, and support:https://mydivorcesolution.com/community
Listen to more episodes: https://mydivorcesolution.com/podcast

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163. The Hidden Cost of Toxic Love: How Trauma Bonds Impact Divorce | with Dr. Nadine Macaluso

Wed, 01 Oct 2025 10:00:00 -0000

🚨 The Hidden Cost of Toxic Love 🚨

Why is it so hard to leave someone who hurts you? And how do trauma bonds show up in divorce — emotionally and financially?

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, hosts Catherine Shanahan, CDFA® and Karen Chellew, Legal Liaison, sit down with Dr. Nadine Macaluso — therapist, author of Run Like Hell, and survivor of one of the most infamous toxic marriages in modern history. Dr. Nadine was once married to the real-life “Wolf of Wall Street,” a chapter of her life portrayed in the blockbuster film.

Together we explore: 💔 What a trauma bond really is (and why it’s so hard to break) 💰 How toxic love often comes with financial abuse and control 🚩 Red flags to spot early in relationships 🔥 Why leaving can feel like pulling the fire alarm 🌱 How to protect yourself — emotionally and financially — in divorce

Dr. Nadine shares her story of survival and transformation, and how she now helps others break free from trauma bonds and reclaim their power.

🔗 Connect with Dr. Nadine:

Website: drnadine.com
Instagram: @TheRealDrNadine
Book: Run Like Hell

Resources from My Divorce Solution:

Learn about the MDS Financial Portrait™ → https://mydivorcesolution.com/

Join our supportive Community → https://community.mydivorcesolution.com/

✅ Subscribe for weekly episodes of We Chat Divorce — the #1 podcast for financial divorce preparation and empowerment.

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162. Real Estate Decisions in Divorce: What You Need to Know Before Buying

Wed, 24 Sep 2025 12:30:00 -0000

Buying a home is one of the biggest financial decisions you’ll ever make — but what happens when that decision collides with divorce? In this episode of We Chat Divorce, co-founders Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan dive into the risks, timing, and financial implications of purchasing real estate during divorce.

They share a real client story where a “protective clause” in a sales contract turned out to be anything but protective, highlighting how emotions, timing, and the wrong assumptions can create long-term financial consequences.

You’ll learn:

Why feeling “protected” isn’t the same as being legally and financially protected
The hidden risks of using retirement accounts or insurance loans to fund a property purchase
How buying too soon can complicate your divorce settlement and negotiations
Why waiting (even when it’s hard) can sometimes be your best financial strategy
How the MDS Financial Portrait™ helps you make confident, informed decisions before signing any major contract

Whether you’re tempted to buy a new home right now, or just want to understand how real estate fits into the divorce process, this episode offers the clarity you need to move forward wisely.

Share them with us — we’d love to hear your story.

Know someone navigating these same challenges? Send them this episode.

Have questions about real estate decisions during divorce? Email us WeChat@CK11.net

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161. Pro Se Mediation and the Kids First Approach with Tina Keyes

Wed, 17 Sep 2025 13:15:00 -0000

In this episode, Karen and Catherine talk with Tina Keyes, a Florida Supreme Court certified family mediator and divorce coach. Tina shares how her own family experiences led her to create a Kids First mediation model, designed to reduce conflict and keep the focus on families—not legal battles.

We cover what pro se mediation really means, how to know if it’s the right fit, and why coming prepared—both financially and emotionally—is the key to success.

Key Takeaways

What pro se mediation is and who it works best for
Why Tina avoids 8-hour “marathon” sessions and instead uses short, focused meetings
How to prepare for mediation: from parenting plans to verified financial data
The importance of putting kids first throughout the process
Why making decisions based on facts, not emotions, leads to better long-term outcomes

About Our Guest

Tina Keyes is a Florida Supreme Court certified family mediator, certified divorce coach, and co-parenting specialist. She is also certified in trauma-informed practice, special needs divorce, and high-conflict co-parenting. Through her Kids First Mediation framework, Tina helps families reduce stress, save money, and make child-focused decisions.

Learn more: floridadivorcemediation.com
Kids First program: kidsfirstmediation.com

Resources

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160. Divorce Explored: Blindsided by Divorce: Why Financial Clarity Should Be Your First Move

Wed, 10 Sep 2025 10:30:00 -0000

In this powerful and timely episode, Karen and Catherine discuss what really happens when you’re blindsided by divorce—whether through infidelity, unexpected papers, or emotional betrayal—and why your first step should not be calling a lawyer, but gaining financial clarity.

They break down the emotional chaos that can follow the shock of divorce and offer a different approach: one grounded in calm, informed decision-making. Drawing from their personal experiences and years of professional insight, Karen and Catherine explore how the MDS Financial Portrait™ can provide structure and security in the most destabilizing moments.

What You’ll Learn:

The emotional toll of being blindsided—and how to pause before reacting
Why rushing to a lawyer can be financially dangerous without preparation
How the MDS Financial Portrait™ gives you clarity on what you own, owe, and deserve
Real-life examples of how emotional decisions in divorce can backfire financially
Why understanding the scope of professionals like forensic accountants or attorneys is critical
How to regain control and create a smart, sustainable path forward—even in crisis

If you’re feeling lost, overwhelmed, or caught off guard by divorce—this episode is for you. Get the clarity you need to make empowered decisions. Visit mydivorcesolution.com to learn more about how we help you prepare financially for divorce with confidence and peace of mind.

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159. Grief, Money, and Moving On: Taking Your Power Back in Divorce, with Virginia Gilbert

Wed, 03 Sep 2025 13:00:00 -0000

Divorce isn’t just a legal or financial process—it’s an emotional one. In this powerful episode, Karen and Catherine are joined by Virginia Gilbert, a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and author of Transcending High Conflict Divorce, to talk about a topic most people don’t expect to encounter during divorce: grief.

Together, they explore:

The emotional toll of divorce grief—even if you’re the one initiating it
Why grief can leave you feeling financially stuck or frozen
The real reason some spouses feel guilt or shame about asking for financial clarity
How emotional reactivity can sabotage financial decisions
The pressure many women feel to hold on to the family home
The myths and realities of “nesting” after divorce
How to move from emotional reactivity to radical acceptance—and why it matters

Virginia also shares her own story of navigating a high-conflict divorce, how that experience reshaped her career, and why she believes divorce can be a transformative experience—if you're willing to do the inner work.

Divorce grief is real—and it’s not linear. Expect to cycle through denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and finally, acceptance (aka “DABDA”).
High-conflict dynamics often carry over from the marriage into the divorce. Learning to disengage emotionally is essential.
Financial empowerment starts with overcoming emotional roadblocks and becoming an active participant in your own decision-making.
Letting go of control, identity, or even the family home can be one of the hardest—but most liberating—parts of healing.
Radical acceptance doesn’t mean indifference. It means understanding what you can’t change and choosing how you’ll respond next.

About Our Guest:

Virginia is a licensed marriage and family therapist practicing in California, North Carolina, and Florida via telehealth. She specializes in helping people disengage from high-conflict exes and take their power back. She’s the author of Transcending High Conflict Divorce and leads therapeutic divorce groups for men and women navigating emotional entanglement and reactivity. Learn more: virginiagilbertmft.com

At My Divorce Solution, we help clients move from emotional overwhelm to financial clarity. If you're navigating divorce grief, remember: your healing starts with knowing. And your financial empowerment begins with preparation.

Explore the MDS Financial Portrait™, our verified divorce preparation tool, at MyDivorceSolution.com

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Divorce Summer School - Episode 6: Real Life, Real Numbers, Real Divorce Case Studies

Wed, 27 Aug 2025 12:00:00 -0000

We’re wrapping up Divorce Summer School with real-world examples from the divorce frontlines.

In this episode, Karen and Catherine walk through true-to-life financial case studies to show how preparation, clarity, and the right support can completely transform the divorce experience. You’ll hear what went right, what went wrong, and what you can do differently—so you don’t become a cautionary tale.

What You’ll Learn:

Why “simple” divorces can still go financially off the rails
The cost of emotional decision-making (and how to avoid it)
Real examples of how the MDS Financial Portrait™ changes outcomes
How one couple saved thousands by getting clarity before hiring professionals
The questions that could have saved others months—and tens of thousands of dollars

Send us your story or question: wechat@ck11.net. We may share lessons from it in a future episode.

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Thank you for joining us for Divorce Summer School! Catch up on all 6 episodes and begin your journey to financial clarity and smart decision-making in divorce.

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Divorce Summer School: E5: Expert Divorce Tips — What We Recommend (And What We Don’t!)

Wed, 20 Aug 2025 12:00:00 -0000

This week in Divorce Summer School, we’re breaking down a popular article: “7 Things to Do ASAP When Your Spouse Wants a Divorce” from MSN & Money Talks News—and giving you the MDS-approved version.

Karen and Catherine go tip-by-tip to explain what advice holds up, what you should reconsider, and what most people get wrong when panic sets in. If you’re unsure how to respond when divorce is suddenly on the table, this episode will help you shift from reaction to strategy.

Why hiring an attorney might not be your first step
How to run a credit report (and why your score isn’t enough)
What “entitled” really means in divorce—and why mindset matters
How to protect your assets without escalating conflict
Smart, emotionally aware ways to talk to your kids
What financial clarity actually looks like (and why it changes everything)

Start your financial assessment at mydivorcesolution.com

Next Week on Divorce Summer School: “Real Life, Real Numbers – Unpacking Financial Case Studies in Divorce.”

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Divorce Summer School | Episode 4: Who Can Help: How to Build Your Team of Divorce Professionals

Wed, 13 Aug 2025 12:00:00 -0000

This week in Divorce Summer School, we’re answering one of the most overwhelming questions in the divorce process: Who should I hire?

Karen and Catherine break down the roles of attorneys, mediators, CDFAs, coaches, therapists, and more—so you can confidently build the right team for your needs (not someone else’s). You’ll also learn how financial preparation helps every professional on your team do their best work—and saves you from wasting time, money, and emotional energy.

If you’re unsure where to start or afraid of making the wrong hire, this episode is your roadmap.

The true role of an attorney—and when it’s too soon to hire one
Why mediators aren’t financial advisors or decision-makers
The essential difference between forensic accountants, CDFAs, and daily money managers
How emotional overwhelm leads to costly professional hires
Why preparation before professionals is the smartest path forward

Start your financial assessment at mydivorcesolution.com

Next Week on Divorce Summer School: “Real Life, Real Numbers – Unpacking Financial Case Studies in Divorce.”

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Divorce Summer School | Episode 3: From Secrets to Solutions: Financial Discovery Preparation

Wed, 06 Aug 2025 12:00:00 -0000

This week in Divorce Summer School, we’re getting real about one of the most confusing—and expensive—parts of the divorce process: financial discovery.

In this eye-opening episode, Karen and Catherine break down how the traditional legal discovery process can drain time, money, and energy—and how My Divorce Solution’s Financial Portrait™ helps you take control before things spiral.

If you’ve ever asked, “Doesn’t my attorney already do this?”—this episode is for you.

What financial discovery actually means in litigation or mediation
Why most attorneys aren’t equipped to provide financial clarity
How the MDS Financial Portrait™ saves you time, money, and stress
Real case examples of overspending on legal fees vs. proactive prep
Why informed clients make the best decisions (and spend less doing it!)

Tools Mentioned:

MDS Financial Portrait™ mydivorcesolution.com
Attorney Prep Guide
Document Checklist

Divorce Summer School continues next week with Episode 4: “7 Smart Divorce Tips—What We Recommend (and What We Don’t).”

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Divorce Summer School | Episode 2: Dealing with Financial Abandonment in Divorce

Wed, 30 Jul 2025 12:00:00 -0000

In Week 2 of Divorce Summer School, we’re bringing back one of our most talked-about episodes—an honest, eye-opening look at financial abandonment and what to do when you're cut off from money, access, or support during divorce.

Karen and Catherine break down what financial abandonment actually looks like—not just from your spouse, but sometimes even from your own legal team. This episode is packed with tips to help you prepare, advocate for yourself, and stop feeling stuck, alone, or powerless when it comes to your finances.

Whether you're just starting to think about divorce or already in it, this conversation is your reminder that you have more options—and more power—than you think.

What You’ll Learn:

What financial abandonment really means (it’s not just about money)
How to advocate for yourself when your spouse—or your attorney—fails to
Steps to take if your access to credit, cash, or documents is suddenly cut off
How to avoid emotionally driven financial decisions
Why preparation is your strongest form of protection

Email us at wechat@ck11.net or leave a comment. Your question might be featured in a future Divorce Summer School episode.

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Divorce Summer School | Episode 1: Trusting Yourself to Make the Difficult Decision - Tonya Carter

Wed, 23 Jul 2025 12:30:00 -0000

We’re kicking off Divorce Summer School with one of our most powerful and timely past episodes—now more relevant than ever.

This conversation with marriage and relationship exit strategist, Tonya Carter dives deep into the emotional side of divorce: how to stop second-guessing, start trusting yourself, and build the confidence to take control of your financial future.

If you're stuck in fear or self-doubt, this episode is your permission slip to take the next step—even if you're not 100% ready.

What self-trust really means in the context of divorce
Why emotional and financial clarity are deeply connected
How to reclaim your voice, your decisions, and your future
How to prepare for divorce without fear—even when your spouse controls the finances
Real, practical ways to rebuild your identity and financial confidence

Where in your divorce journey are you still waiting for permission to act? What would change if you trusted yourself just 10% more?

We’d love to hear from you. Email us your thoughts or questions at wechat@ck11.net

Or leave a comment wherever you're tuning in.

We’d love to answer your question in a future Divorce Summer School episode!

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Instagram: @IamTonyaCarter
Website: www.TonyaCarter.com
Podcast: Purposely Thriving Podcast

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158. Divorce, FAFSA & College Costs – How to Get It Right, with Vicki Vollweiler

Wed, 16 Jul 2025 15:23:00 -0000

Paying for college is stressful—add divorce to the mix, and it gets even more complicated. In this episode, Karen sits down with college planning expert Vicki Vollweiler to unpack what divorcing parents need to know about the FAFSA process, financial aid, and protecting both your future and your child’s dreams.

Vicki brings her unique expertise at the intersection of personal finance, college planning, and post-divorce parenting to help families avoid costly mistakes and missed opportunities.

Whether your child is 3 or 17, this is an essential listen for any parent going through divorce.

What You’ll Learn:

Why FAFSA rules have changed—and how they impact divorced parents
Who should fill out FAFSA—and why it’s not always the custodial parent
The financial impact of remarriage on aid eligibility
Key differences between FAFSA and CSS Profile
How and when to use 529 plans vs. loans
Why college planning should start during divorce (not after)
What to do if a parent refuses to participate in the aid process
Why honors programs can be a hidden financial win
How to negotiate for more aid and appeal award letters

Key Takeaways:

“Don’t put your head in the sand because you don’t want to deal with the money. With planning, families can save tens—and sometimes hundreds—of thousands of dollars.”

Start thinking about college costs during your divorce—not after
Include financial aid participation clauses in your divorce agreement
Appeal and negotiate financial aid packages—you can ask for more
Consider honors programs and in-state schools as cost-saving strategies
Proactive planning saves the most money (and stress)

Resources from Vicki Vollweiler:

College Financial Prep – Free 15-minute consultations available
Upcoming Book + Workbook for Divorced & Widowed Parents (stay tuned!)
Online courses, workshops, and soon: a book club for parents navigating this journey

Have Questions? Email us at wechat@ck.11.net or visit mydivorcesolution.com

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157. Gray Divorce: Safeguarding, retirement, business and legacy – with Kara Chrobak, Esq

Wed, 09 Jul 2025 11:00:00 -0000

In this eye-opening episode of We Chat Divorce, we welcome Kara Chrobak, a Colorado-based family law attorney who brings deep insight into high-net-worth divorce, complex asset division, and marital agreements. Kara recently launched her own practice—Bespoke Law LLC—after over 15 years in big law.

What we talk about with Kara:

Why mediation sometimes feels more like pressure than resolution—and how to shift that narrative
How to approach settlement with a risk tolerance lens rather than fear
Why documentation and financial clarity are non-negotiable before negotiating
The nuances of gray divorce, including retirement planning, lifetime maintenance, and emotional shifts
When and how to consider a postnuptial agreement—and the legal pitfalls to avoid
The critical importance of aligned communication between attorneys and financial professionals
How MDS clients enter legal conversations more prepared and empowered

Kara also shares her thoughtful, compassionate approach to working with clients and why education is the antidote to anxiety in divorce.

Whether you're divorcing at 35 or 65, this conversation offers clarity, wisdom, and real-world advice from professionals who believe in empowering you with knowledge.

Connect with Kara Chrobak, Esq., Founder, Bespoke Law LLC, Colorado bespokelawllc.com

Next Steps:

Take the Free Divorce Financial Assessment
Share this episode with someone navigating a high-net-worth or gray divorce
Follow us for more empowering conversations

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156. Divorce Explored: What to Know About Lump Sum Alimony Buyouts

Wed, 02 Jul 2025 11:00:00 -0000

Should you take the lump sum or stick with monthly support payments? In this episode, Catherine and Karen unpack one of the most misunderstood yet consequential decisions in divorce: alimony buyouts. Together, they demystify how these lump sum payments are calculated, who truly benefits, and what hidden pitfalls can jeopardize your financial future.

From passive income projections to payout timing and mortgage qualification hurdles—this deep dive explores the real-world scenarios and tough questions you must ask before signing your agreement.

Lump Sum Alimony: Pros & cons for both payer and recipient
Tax implications & investment risks
Liquidity vs. long-term cash flow
Calculating present value & discount rates
Passive income assumptions—and why timing matters
What if the payer can’t pay all at once? Tranches, step-down payments, and protective clauses
Impact on mortgage eligibility
The role of life insurance and estate protection
Why enforceability & agreement language matter
The crucial importance of stress-testing financial plans

Listener Challenge:

Are you considering a lump sum offer? Screenshot this episode and send it to a friend or family member who might be weighing the same decision. Share the clarity.

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155. Burning money questions, why investing in financial clarity beats guesswork in divorce.

Wed, 25 Jun 2025 13:28:00 -0000

Welcome to another behind-the-scenes episode of Divorce Explored, your unfiltered look at what really happens inside My Divorce Solution. In this episode, Catherine and Karen tackle the five most common — and misunderstood — money questions they hear from individuals considering or starting the divorce process.

If you’ve ever wondered:

"Can you just take a quick look at our agreement?"
"Doesn’t my attorney already do this?"
"Will I still need a forensic accountant?"
"Isn’t our estate simple?"
"Will my attorney work with you?"

...this episode is for you.

Our co-founders explain why financial clarity isn’t a luxury — it’s a necessity. Learn how lack of preparation leads to costly mistakes and emotional overwhelm, and why a proactive, data-driven approach saves you thousands while empowering you to make confident legal and financial decisions.

"The Quick Look Myth": What sounds fair on paper rarely accounts for taxes, long-term consequences, or unforeseen life events.
Legal ≠ Financial: Attorneys are not financial analysts. Without financial clarity, you’re navigating blind.
Forensics Isn’t Always the Fix: Most clients don’t need one — they just need to be prepared.
Simplicity Is Deceptive: Even “simple” cases often hide six-figure surprises.
Collaboration with Attorneys: MDS works with — not against — your legal team, setting the foundation for informed negotiation.

The Divorce Financial Portrait™: Your personalized roadmap to financial clarity during divorce. Begin your Free Assessment,Take the first step toward financial empowerment.

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154. Peace Over Power Struggles – Co-Parenting Through Chaos, with Dr. Tara Egan

Wed, 18 Jun 2025 11:00:00 -0000

In this empowering and heartfelt episode, Catherine and Karen sit down with Dr. Tara Egan, founder of Egan Counseling & Consulting, to discuss the emotional and practical realities of co-parenting through divorce—especially in high-conflict situations. With over two decades of experience and her own personal journey through divorce, Dr. Egan shares real-world strategies that prioritize peace, protect children, and reduce costly legal and emotional power struggles.

Key Takeaways:

Parent Coordination: Dr. Egan explains how a Parent Coordinator acts as a neutral party helping parents follow custody agreements and make day-to-day decisions without returning to court—saving time, money, and stress.
Nesting Isn’t Forever: Nesting (kids stay in the home while parents rotate in/out) can be helpful short-term but rarely works long-term. Stability comes from clear routines and emotionally safe environments—not physical space alone.
Kids Need One Healthy Parent: Divorce doesn’t "mess up" kids—how parents behave before, during, and after does. Kids thrive with at least one emotionally healthy parent showing up with consistency and compassion.
Responding to Financial Blame: When children repeat financial accusations (“Mom took all the money”), avoid defensive responses. Instead, calmly reassure them with facts, warmth, and emotional safety.
Set the Tone in Co-Parenting Conversations: Stay out of judgment. Acknowledge that families change and model positive, future-focused communication, even when your co-parent does not.
Don’t Expect Your Ex to Suddenly Be Different: Your ex won’t magically become a more emotionally responsive or financially generous person post-divorce. Accepting that helps reduce your stress and disappointment.

Resources Mentioned:

Dr. Tara Egan's Website: www.egancounseling.com
TikTok: @taraegan – Bite-sized advice for navigating co-parenting and high-conflict divorce.

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153. Let Them: Emotional Freedom Meets Financial Clarity in Divorce

Wed, 11 Jun 2025 18:33:00 -0000

In this empowering episode of We Chat Divorce, Catherine Shanahan and Karen Chellew unpack the viral “Let Them” theory popularized by Mel Robbins—and apply it to the high-stress, emotionally charged context of divorce.

While “letting them” can sound passive, Catherine and Karen reveal how it’s actually a strategy grounded in smart decision-making and emotional control. Learn how to let go of reactionary behaviors, protect your finances, and focus on what truly matters for your future.

Why reacting to your ex’s antics may cost you—emotionally and financially
How “Let Them” becomes powerful when paired with financial clarity
When to act, when to document, and when to simply pause
Tools to track spending, identify emergencies, and stay grounded
Why documentation is your best protection—not retaliation
How the MDS Financial Portrait™ empowers you to respond with confidence

Pause before reacting—use the “24-hour panic rule”
Let your ex propose, spend, and posture—while you document
Track joint spending, freeze credit lines if needed, and know your cash flow
Use what you learn in the process to strengthen your negotiation power
Don’t agree to anything—mediation or otherwise—without financial clarity

Are you struggling to “let them”? Do you need support in creating financial guardrails during divorce? Leave a comment or question, and we’ll respond in a future episode.

Email us wechat@ck11.net

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152. Crypto in the Closet: Exposing Hidden Bitcoin in Divorce, with Jacqueline Newman

Wed, 04 Jun 2025 11:00:00 -0000

In this insightful episode of We Chat Divorce, we sit down with New York matrimonial law expert Jacqueline Newman to uncover the real story behind cryptocurrency in divorce. From the early days of “Bitcoin parties” to high-stakes cases involving millions in crypto, Jacqueline shares her experience dealing with digital assets during complex marital dissolutions.

Whether you're navigating a high-asset divorce or simply concerned your spouse might be hiding crypto, this episode breaks down what you need to know—and what your attorney should be asking for.

What You’ll Learn:

How digital assets like Bitcoin impact divorce settlements
Why cryptocurrency still feels “mysterious” and how to demystify it
Common mistakes when dealing with crypto during financial discovery
When to consider dividing assets “in kind” instead of assigning a value
The real cost of hiring forensic experts to uncover hidden crypto
Tips to protect yourself from financial blind spots during divorce

Key Takeaways from Jacqueline:

Always trace the source: “Every crypto purchase comes from somewhere—start with the bank statements.”
Consider dividing in-kind: This strategy helps both parties share in the gains (or losses) of volatile assets.
Don’t fear the unknown: Crypto is just another asset—fear fades with financial literacy and the right support.

Top 3 Documents to Request if You Suspect Hidden Crypto:

Complete bank and brokerage account statements
Sworn statements of net worth or financial affidavits
All crypto wallet addresses and digital exchange records

Learn more about Jacqueline’s work at:

BerkBot.com

https://nycdivorcelawyer.com/

Learn more at mydivorcesolution.com

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151. Cool Heads, Smart Wallets, Emotional Mastery & Divorce Finance, with Jenny Stevens

Wed, 28 May 2025 11:00:00 -0000

In this powerful episode, Jenny Stevens joins Karen and Catherine to explore how to manage emotions and make smart financial decisions during one of life’s most difficult transitions—divorce.

Jenny shares her personal journey from being a breadwinner navigating her own divorce, single parenting, cancer diagnosis, and career change, to becoming a coach who helps others turn life’s adversities into transformation.

“You don’t need to overhaul your life. You just need to tweak the behaviors and habits that no longer serve you.” – Jenny Stevens

Jenny Stevens jennystevenscoach.com

IG: www.instagram.com/jennystevens_coach/

FB: www.facebook.com/jennystevenscoach

Email: Jenny@jennystevenscoach.com

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Comment on this episode’s post with 3–5 empowering thoughts you’re choosing to focus on during your divorce journey. Let’s create a mindset shift—together.

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150. Divorce Explored: Cut the Burn Rate: 16 Questions to Ask Before You Hire Your Attorney

Wed, 21 May 2025 12:00:00 -0000

If you’ve ever stared at a four-figure legal invoice and thought, “Where did my money go?” — this episode is for you.

In this episode, Catherine and Karen break down the true cost of divorce and share how to spot red flags, avoid wasteful spending, and build a lean, efficient legal team. You'll hear about real-life examples of inflated invoices, underused experts, and clients who got burned by not knowing what they signed up for.

From understanding the scope of your attorney's work to catching block billing and knowing when to pause and prepare, this episode arms you with the tools to keep your legal bills from taking over your financial future.

Why some clients burn through retainers before any progress is made
What “block billing” is — and why it’s a red flag
How to leverage paralegals and avoid being billed at attorney rates
The difference between full-service, collaborative, and limited-scope attorneys
When and if to hire a forensic accountant, CPA, or mortgage expert
The power of getting financially prepared before hiring anyone

What is your overall philosophy or style when handling divorce cases?
How do you typically structure your team and delegate tasks?
What are your hourly rates — and do they vary by who is doing the work?
Are flat-fee options available for specific services?
What is the retainer for my case and how is it applied?
Is the retainer a minimum fee or refundable?
Will I receive monthly billing statements?
How do you track and report time for tasks performed?
Will I be billed for internal meetings or staff conferences?
Can I request a cap on monthly fees or be notified when nearing budget limits?
How do you determine if a paralegal or associate should handle a task?
How do you document prep work, and can I review those notes?
Will I be billed for re-reviewing documents that have already been reviewed?
Are billing errors ever adjusted if I notice discrepancies?
How do you define the scope of work when hiring outside experts (like forensics)?
How can I best work with you to keep my costs down?

Batch your communications to avoid small, costly emails
Ask for work product if you’re billed for extensive review or prep
Consider limited-scope representation for specific legal tasks
Use financial professionals to prepare documents instead of high-priced attorneys
Pause your case if needed — getting financially organized may save thousands

"Every email you batch, every paralegal you leverage, and every line item you question is real money staying in your pocket — not evaporating into the billable hour."

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149. Parenting Plans That Actually Work: How to Avoid the Mistakes That Cost You Time, Money and Peace, with Samantha Boss

Wed, 14 May 2025 10:00:00 -0000

In this powerful episode of WeChat Divorce, hosts Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan welcome Samantha Boss, high-conflict divorce coach and certified mediator, to discuss what a real parenting plan should look like—and why the standard legal templates aren’t nearly enough.

Drawing from her personal experience and professional work with divorcing parents, Samantha shares why parenting plans must go beyond weekends and holidays. Together, they dives deep into how decisions about healthcare, education, extracurriculars, and even future expectations should be clarified upfront to avoid conflict—and costly legal battles—down the road.

Whether you're just starting your divorce journey or re-evaluating a current plan, this conversation reveals why a proactive, customized approach is key to protecting your children, your time, and your wallet.

Samantha Boss is a certified divorce mediator and high-conflict divorce coach who helps moms take back control of their lives and protect their children’s futures. Drawing from her personal experience with a contentious four-year divorce, she now empowers others to build effective parenting plans through coaching, education, and strategy.Learn more at samanthaboss.com.

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148. Divorce Explored: Mediation Without Full Disclosure—Should You Go, Pause, or Pivot?

Wed, 07 May 2025 10:00:00 -0000

Hosts: Catherine Shanahan, CDFA & Karen Chellew, Legal LiaisonPresented by: My Divorce Solution

You’ve done the work, your mediation date is approaching—and your spouse has barely provided more than a screenshot or two of their accounts. What now?

In this episode, Catherine and Karen take you behind the scenes of what happens when mediation is scheduled but the documents just aren’t there. They walk you through the common pitfalls, legal misconceptions, and high-stakes decisions that clients face in this scenario. Whether you're facing a controlling spouse, incomplete documentation, or pressure from professionals to move forward, this episode offers practical, empowering steps to protect your financial future.

Why negotiating in mediation without full disclosure is like “negotiating in the dark”
Why asking for documents is not aggression—it’s protection
Real-world scenarios and how professionals sometimes pressure clients to move forward prematurely
The MDS playbook for Pre-Mediation Triage
Your three critical options: Go, Pause, or Pivot
Tools attorneys and mediators can (and should) use to get the missing data
The real cost of moving forward without clarity—and how to avoid regret

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147. From Uncertain to Unstoppable: Taking Control of Your Finances, with Laura Webb

Wed, 30 Apr 2025 12:00:00 -0000

In this empowering episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan welcome financial powerhouse Laura Webb, founder of Webb Investment Services and an advocate for women’s financial empowerment. Together, they dive deep into the emotional and practical barriers that keep women from owning their financial lives — and how to overcome them. From personal money stories to professional lessons learned, this candid conversation is full of aha moments and actionable insights to help you shift from financial uncertainty to unstoppable confidence.

Whether you're married, divorced, or starting over, this episode will inspire you to take the next step toward financial autonomy.

Laura is a trailblazer in wealth management with over 30 years of experience and a passionate advocate for increasing the presence of women in financial services. Now in her “third act,” she’s helping lead the charge to recruit and support more women in the financial advisory profession through her work with the Women’s Leadership Alliance.

My Divorce Solution – Learn more about the Divorce Financial Portrait™
Women’s Leadership Alliance – Explore Laura’s advocacy work
Divorce Financial Portrait™ – Gain clarity, confidence, and control in your financial future

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Disclaimer:

The information provided in this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and should not be considered financial or legal advice. Please consult with professionals in the relevant fields for personalized guidance.

The WeChat Divorce podcast (hereinafter referred to as the “WCD”) represents the opinions of Catherine Shanahan, Karen Chellew, and their guests to the show. WCD should not be considered professional or legal advice. The content here is for informational purposes only. Views and opinions expressed on WCD are our own and do not represent that of our places of work.

WCD should not be used in any legal capacity whatsoever. Listeners should contact their attorney to obtain advice with respect to any particular legal matter. No listener should act or refrain from acting on the basis of information on WCD without first seeking legal advice from counsel in the relevant jurisdiction. No guarantee is given regarding the accuracy of any statements or opinions made on WCD.

Unless specifically stated otherwise, Catherine Shanahan and Karen Chellew do not endorse, approve, recommend, or certify any information, product, process, service, or organization presented or mentioned on WCD, and information from this podcast should not be referenced in any way to imply such approval or endorsement. The third-party materials or content of any third-party site referenced on WCD do not necessarily reflect the opinions, standards or policies of Catherine Shanahan or Karen Chellew.

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146. Divorce Explored: Gray Divorce Rebellion – Our Take on Time’s Viral Essay

Wed, 23 Apr 2025 10:00:00 -0000

In this episode of WeChat Divorce, co-founders Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan unpack the themes from Time Magazine’s viral article, “When Having It All Becomes Wanting a Divorce” by Ada Calhoun.

They explore the emotional and financial realities facing Gen X women navigating midlife questions, career shifts, and marriage fatigue. Drawing from personal experience and professional expertise, Karen and Catherine offer a grounded, supportive take on the “3 a.m. moment” many women face—and what it really means to want something more.

Highlights Include:

The emotional turning point that prompts many midlife divorces
How financial clarity can bring confidence before making big decisions
Why not all women who explore divorce are seeking to leave
The importance of knowing what you have before deciding what you want

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Special thanks to Ada Calhoun for sparking this important conversation through her powerful essay, “When Having It All Becomes Wanting a Divorce,” published by time.

We encourage everyone to read the full piece: https://time.com/7216367/gen-x-women-midlife-divorce-essay

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145. From Disconnect to Discovery: Navigating Marriage, Divorce, and Beyond with Colleen Kowal

Wed, 16 Apr 2025 10:00:00 -0000

In this powerful episode, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan sit down with Imago Relationship Therapist Colleen Kowal to explore the emotional complexities of marriage, divorce, and co-parenting. Drawing from her personal journey and years of professional experience, Colleen shares how relationship dynamics can lead to disconnect—and more importantly, how intentional conversations, discernment, and closure can pave the way for healing and rediscovery.

Colleen explains the concept of Relational Contracts, the role of Discernment Therapy, and the importance of processing divorce in a way that minimizes harm—especially for children. Together, they discuss how financial imbalances, emotional triggers, and unfinished relationship dynamics often carry over into divorce and co-parenting if left unaddressed.

About the Guest: Colleen Kowal

Colleen is an Imago Relationship Therapist who works with individuals, couples, and families navigating the complexities of relationships, divorce, and co-parenting. Her approach blends personal experience as a child of divorce and a divorced parent with professional expertise to help clients move from pain to purpose.

Learn more about Imago Relationship Therapy: https://www.hiltonheadislandcounseling.com/

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144. Divorce Explored: From Courtroom to Kitchen Table: Financial Lessons For High-Conflict and High Net Worth Splits

Wed, 09 Apr 2025 10:00:00 -0000

In this episode, Karen and Catherine discuss the financial impact of starting divorce from the courtroom versus the kitchen table — and why preparation is everything, especially in high-conflict and high net worth cases. They break down costly mistakes, emotional traps, and the importance of data-driven decisions over emotional reactions.

Mentioned in the Episode:

AMG National Trust article on financial planning in divorce - https://www.amgnational.com/navigating-the-complex-terrain-of-a-high-net-worth-divorce/

The Divorce Financial Portrait™ by My Divorce Solution - https://mydivorcesolution.com/

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143. Divorce Dollars & Activating Your Female Genius with Shannon McGorry

Wed, 02 Apr 2025 13:55:00 -0000

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen and Catherine sit down with Shannon McGorry, a PCC-level ICF-accredited coach and founder of Love Strength and Grace. Shannon shares her personal divorce journey and how it led her to empower women through coaching. She helps women redefine their future—personally and professionally—by activating their Female Genius.

Key Takeaways:

🔹 The Power of the Pivot – Why shifting course isn’t failure, but an opportunity to create a stronger, more aligned future.

🔹 Leading with Head vs. Heart – How to recognize which drives your decisions and how to balance both.

🔹 Rewriting the Narrative – Moving from shoulds and expectations to I can and I choose.

🔹 Financial Confidence in Divorce – The link between thoughts, emotions, and actions in financial decision-making.

🔹 The One-Degree Pivot – Small, intentional shifts can lead to profound transformations.

Shannon breaks down how women can step into their financial and personal power, avoiding resentment, fear, and guilt. She also explains how coaching differs from therapy—helping women move forward rather than looking back.

If you’re feeling lost or unsure about the next chapter, this episode is for you!

🎧 Listen now and take the first step toward your empowered future.

WE WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU! Send us your questions, comments or topics that you’d like to hear on the podcast, and we may discuss it on a future episode. Email us at WeChat@CK11.net

🔗 Learn more about Shannon: LoveStrengthandGrace.com

📩 Contact Shannon: shannon@lovestrengthandgrace.com

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142. Divorce Explored: What to Know About Remarrying After 50

Wed, 02 Apr 2025 13:52:00 -0000

In this episode of Divorce Explored, Karen and Catherine dive into a timely AARP article, "Financial Checklist for Remarrying After 50." Together, they unpack the essential financial considerations and emotional conversations you should have before saying "I do" again—whether you're 50 or not.

Drawing from their personal experiences and professional expertise, they explore topics like:

✅ Exchanging financial information with your future spouse

✅ Navigating conversations about children, alimony, and financial expectations

✅ Reviewing estate plans, wills, and medical powers of attorney

✅ Understanding Social Security and survivor benefits

✅ The importance of prenups—and how to reframe them as planning for a healthy marriage

Key Takeaway:

Love is powerful—but protecting your financial future is essential. Open, honest conversations about money, expectations, and boundaries before remarrying can set the foundation for a healthier, stronger relationship.

Mentioned in this Episode:

AARP’s Financial Checklist for Remarrying After 50
The value of prenups at any age
Why revisiting estate planning documents is critical
Social Security considerations when remarrying later in life

🎯 If you’re considering remarriage or blending families, this episode is for you.

Prepare with clarity, not clouded by emotion. And remember, when it comes to marriage and finances, knowledge is power.

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141. Real People, Real Situations, and Real Divorce: A Real Client’s Journey Through the MDS Process

Wed, 19 Mar 2025 15:42:00 -0000

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, hosts Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan sit down with Nicole Farhat, a Certified Divorce Coach and former My Divorce Solution (MDS) client. Nicole shares her personal journey through divorce and how MDS empowered her with financial clarity, saving her thousands in legal fees while securing a successful financial outcome.

From skepticism about her spouse’s participation to witnessing the transformative power of MDS’s Divorce Financial Portrait™, Nicole’s experience serves as a testament to the importance of financial preparation. She discusses the emotional and financial challenges of divorce, the unexpected cooperation of her spouse, and the valuable role of MDS in neutralizing conflict while securing financial fairness.

Now, as a divorce coach herself, Nicole helps others navigate divorce with confidence, advocating for education, preparation, and the right support system.

Key Takeaways:

Financial preparation is crucial. Understanding your marital assets before engaging attorneys can save thousands in legal fees.
Spouses often participate despite initial resistance. Many clients fear their spouse won’t cooperate, but MDS’s structured approach often leads to engagement.
MDS neutralizes emotional conflict. By focusing on facts and financial data, MDS facilitates productive conversations between spouses.
Nicole’s transformation. Through MDS, she gained confidence, a favorable financial settlement, and a new career helping others through divorce.
The power of assembling a support team. A strong support system, including financial experts and divorce coaches, can make all the difference.

Connect with Nicole

www.nicolejoliecoaching.com

https://www.instagram.com/nicolejoliecoachingllc/

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140. Divorce explored: Divorce & Taxes: Considerations Before You File

Wed, 12 Mar 2025 12:08:00 -0000

Tax season comes around fast, and for those navigating divorce, tax decisions can feel overwhelming. In this episode, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan break down the key considerations you need to keep in mind when filing your taxes before, during, or after divorce.

Key Takeaways:

✔️ Filing Status Matters – Understanding the differences between filing jointly, married filing separately, head of household, and single.

✔️ Accessing Tax Information – Why gathering tax documents early is crucial, especially if your spouse has handled finances.

✔️ Negotiating Tax Savings – How tax benefits can be part of your divorce settlement strategy.

✔️ Claiming Dependents – Why alternating years may not be the best financial choice.

✔️ Alimony & Tax Law Changes – Understanding the post-2019 rules on taxable and deductible alimony.

✔️ 401(k) Withdrawals & Hidden Tax Consequences – The impact of taking funds from retirement accounts.

Knowledge is power. Before making any tax-related decisions, consult with a qualified accountant to ensure you’re making the best financial choices for your future.

📩 Have questions? Email us at WeChat@Ck11.net

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139. Divorce Decoded: From Assets to the Courtroom with Bree Sullivan Howell, Esq.

Wed, 05 Mar 2025 16:56:00 -0000

Divorce is a life-changing legal and financial process, but understanding your rights and financial landscape can make all the difference.

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, we sit down with top divorce attorney and award-winning author, Bree Sullivan Howell, Esq., to discuss financial clarity, courtroom strategies, and common pitfalls in divorce settlements.

Bree shares insights from her 20+ years as a family law attorney, along with personal experiences that shaped her mission to support divorcing individuals—especially Christian women navigating the complexities of divorce in faith-based communities.

Key Topics:

✅ The emotional and legal realities of divorce

✅ Why financial clarity is essential before negotiating assets

✅ Common mistakes in property division (and how to avoid them!)

✅ The two biggest pitfalls of dividing assets: Ownership & Obligation

✅ How alimony is determined and the misconceptions around financial need

✅ Hidden assets—where they may be lurking and how to uncover them

✅ Why an organized financial strategy strengthens your legal case

At My Divorce Solution, we believe knowledge is power in divorce. Our Divorce Financial Portrait™ prepares you organize financial data so you (and your attorney) can confidently navigate asset division and settlement negotiations.

Connect with Bree Sullivan Howell, Esq.:

Law firm website: https://www.sullivan-firm.com/

Crush Your Divorce Book: https://www.crushyourdivorce.com/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sullivanfirmllc/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lawyerbree/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/crushyourdivorce/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bree-sullivan-howell-esq-63b31325/

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138. Divorce Explored: Divorce on Trial – The Industry Under Scrutiny

Wed, 26 Feb 2025 17:13:00 -0000

Divorce is already an emotionally charged and financially challenging process—but what happens when the industry itself makes things even harder?

In this episode, Karen and Catherine pull back the curtain on the divorce process, shedding light on inefficiencies, costly mistakes, and systemic issues that can leave individuals feeling powerless.

They discuss why so many divorcing individuals struggle to obtain basic financial information, how the legal system treats divorce like any other civil litigation (even when it shouldn’t), and the hidden financial toll of unnecessary subpoenas, repetitive document reviews, and mismanaged mediation. More importantly, they share how to protect yourself, gain financial clarity, and avoid the common pitfalls of the divorce system.

Key Takeaways:

The Divorce Process is Broken: Many divorcing individuals enter mediation, hearings, or negotiations at a disadvantage due to missing or inaccessible financial data.
Subpoena Shock: Subpoenas often fail to yield the necessary information, leading to wasted time and money.
Mediation Misconceptions: Mediation is often framed as amicable, but in reality, many individuals feel pressured to settle—even when crucial financial details remain unresolved.
Attorneys vs. Financial Experts: Attorneys play a critical role, but they are not financial experts. Many clients mistakenly expect financial guidance from their lawyers, only to realize too late that attorneys don’t provide that level of financial insight.
Taking Back Control: The MDS Financial Portrait™ is designed to equip individuals with financial clarity before they enter the legal system, reducing costly inefficiencies and empowering them to make informed decisions.

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137. Parenting Plans and Finances: Building a Blueprint for Co-Parenting Success, with Nicole Kobis

Wed, 19 Feb 2025 17:29:00 -0000

Navigating co-parenting after divorce is challenging, especially when it comes to balancing custody, finances, and communication. In this episode of We Chat Divorce, we sit down with attorney Nicole Kobis to discuss how to create a strong parenting plan that prioritizes the well-being of children while maintaining financial stability. Nicole brings her legal expertise in family law, mediation, and parenting coordination to provide practical insights on how to set clear expectations, avoid common pitfalls, and ensure a fair and enforceable parenting agreement.

Catherine and Karen share their personal experiences with parenting after divorce, highlighting the importance of having a solid plan in place—even when things seem amicable. From custody schedules to extracurricular expenses, we discuss how to manage evolving family dynamics while keeping children’s best interests at the forefront.

Resources & Links:

🔹 Learn more about Nicole’s firm: Lindabury, McCormick, Estabrook & Cooper

🔹 Connect with Nicole: nkobis@lindabury.com

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136. Divorce Explored: Aiming for Financial Clarity: How To Secure Your Financial Independence in Divorce

Wed, 12 Feb 2025 17:29:00 -0000

Divorce isn’t just about ending a relationship—it’s about reclaiming your financial future. In this episode, we explore how to navigate the emotional and financial challenges of divorce while setting yourself up for long-term independence.

What We Cover:

The importance of assessing your financial position before making any major decisions
How to understand and differentiate between assets & liabilities
Why having an investment strategy during divorce is crucial
The role of attorneys & financial professionals—and why you still need to take control
How to avoid wasting money in the legal process by defining your “everything”
Smart financial decisions to protect your future
Reframing divorce as an opportunity for a financial reset

💘 This Valentine’s season, let Cupid’s arrow point toward financial clarity and self-love. Taking charge of your finances is the best gift you can give yourself.

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135. Second Chances: Navigating Love and Finances After Divorce, with dating and relationship expert Bela Gandhi

Wed, 05 Feb 2025 13:15:00 -0000

In this insightful episode, Karen and Catherine are joined by dating and relationship expert Bela Gandhi to explore the world of second chances in love and finances after divorce. Bela shares her expertise on how to approach dating with confidence, avoid common pitfalls, and prioritize emotional and financial well-being. Together, they discuss how to rebuild after divorce, recognize red flags in relationships, and navigate the financial implications of dating during and after divorce.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

Why second chances in love and finances are empowering after divorce.
Common red flags to watch for in new relationships.
The financial risks of dating during divorce and how to protect yourself.
How Smart Dating Academy’s “pink sparkly bubble wrap” approach supports clients through dating.
Why understanding your role in past relationships is key to finding a healthy partnership.
How to set healthy dating boundaries and protect your financial information.
Tips for safe and effective online dating.
How optimism and self-reflection pave the way for successful relationships.

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134. Divorce Explored: Understanding Property Division: What’s Yours, Mine, and Ours?

Wed, 29 Jan 2025 18:30:00 -0000

Show Title: Understanding Property Division: What’s Yours, Mine, and Ours?

Property division is one of the most complex and emotionally charged aspects of divorce. In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen and Catherine break down the process of dividing assets to help listeners gain clarity and confidence. They explore the differences between community property and equitable distribution states, explain marital versus separate property, and provide tips for managing high-value assets like businesses, stock options, and retirement accounts.

Whether you’re struggling to define "yours, mine, and ours" or aiming for a fair division of assets, this episode offers practical insights into achieving financial clarity during divorce.

Key Topics:

Community Property vs. Equitable Distribution States: How laws affect asset division and the role of “just and fair” principles.
Marital vs. Separate Property: Understanding the distinctions and how commingling can blur the lines.
Complex Assets: Tips for managing businesses, stock options, and retirement accounts with clarity and proper documentation.
Financial Preparation: Why being informed is critical before mediation or negotiations.
Real-Life Stories: How the MDS Divorce Financial Portrait™ empowers clients with organization and clarity.

Key Takeaways:

Clarity is Key: Understand the knowns, unknowns, and the impact of financial decisions.
Preparation Saves Time and Money: Being unprepared can lead to rushed and costly decisions.
Healthy Conversations Matter: Open financial discussions (even prenups) strengthen relationships.
Take Control: Tools like the Divorce Financial Portrait™ keep you organized and in charge.

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133. Breaking Up, Keeping the House: Divorce Mortgage Strategies, with mortgage advisor Zach Taylor

Wed, 22 Jan 2025 16:31:00 -0000

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan sit down with mortgage advisor Zach Taylor to tackle a significant topic for divorcing couples—navigating mortgage decisions during and after a divorce. From buying out a spouse to managing a marital home or rental property, Zach shares essential mortgage strategies to help you make informed financial decisions during this challenging transition.

Episode Highlights

The Importance of Early Financial Planning
Zach emphasizes the value of reaching out to an experienced divorce mortgage advisor early in the process. Learn how a simple conversation can clarify your options for refinancing, mortgage assumptions, or buying a new home.
Key Tips for Mortgage Assumptions
Find out why timing and documentation are critical when exploring mortgage assumptions. Zach explains how to navigate the process with your loan servicer and what qualifications are necessary post-divorce.
Avoiding Costly Mistakes
Catherine and Karen discuss how the Divorce Financial Portrait™ helps clients evaluate their financial options, ensuring they don’t negotiate away critical assets without understanding the full impact on their future.
Maintaining Financial Clarity
Zach shares actionable tips for managing support payments, running credit reports, and addressing joint debts. Learn how these steps can streamline the mortgage process and prevent delays.
Customized Mortgage Scenarios
Zach provides insights into tailoring mortgage strategies to your unique circumstances, offering worksheets to explore different financing scenarios and their impact on your post-divorce budget.

Top Takeaways

Plan Ahead: Engage with a divorce mortgage advisor early to explore your options before making critical decisions.
Know Your Numbers: Understanding your post-divorce budget is crucial to determining whether you can afford to keep or refinance your home.
Document Everything: Get written confirmations for approvals and ensure all financial agreements are clear and enforceable.
Stay Consistent: Steady support payments are essential for mortgage qualification—avoid variances to prevent delays.
Leverage Resources: Use tools like the Divorce Financial Portrait™ to gain financial clarity and align your decisions with your long-term goals.

Resources Mentioned in This Episode

AnnualCreditReport.com: Access your free credit report to identify joint debts, authorized users, and any discrepancies.
Divorce Financial Portrait™: A comprehensive tool to prepare financially for your divorce journey. Learn more at My Divorce Solution.
Zach Taylor’s Website: Schedule a free 30-minute consultation with Zach to discuss your mortgage options.

Connect with Zach Taylor

Website: CrossCountry Mortgage
Social Media: Search "Zach Mortgage" for reviews, insights, and resources.
Phone: Zach is your go-to guy for direct conversations—reach out for personalized advice.

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132. Divorce Explored: The Money Talk Before The Split

Wed, 15 Jan 2025 17:27:00 -0000

In this episode of Divorce Explored, Karen and Catherine discuss why having "The Money Talk" before separating is essential. They explain how premature financial decisions can harm future negotiations and why understanding your full financial picture is critical. This conversation aims to empower listeners to make informed decisions during divorce by fostering financial transparency and clarity.

Key Topics:

Defining The Money Talk:
It’s more than saying, "I want the house" or "I won’t touch your pension."
It’s about knowing and sharing verified financial documents, not just spreadsheets.
Avoid Premature Agreements:
Why early asset division conversations can be risky.
The importance of understanding tax consequences before agreeing to asset splits.
Transparency is Key:
Both parties need full access to financial information.
Being amicable means being open and honest about finances.
Legal vs. Financial Perspectives:
Courts handle property division differently than a net worth statement.
Setting informal financial agreements without documentation can create future conflict.
Managing Expenses:
Understanding and defending your expenses is critical.
Avoid making changes to your spending habits without proper documentation.
The Role of Professionals:
Attorneys, financial planners, and accountants need to work together.
My Divorce Solution offers tools to bridge gaps between legal and financial support.

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131. Four Things You Should Know Before Hiring a Divorce Attorney, with Jamie Berger and Sarah Jacobs

Wed, 08 Jan 2025 14:17:00 -0000

Welcome to We Chat Divorce! In this episode, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan are joined by special guests Jamie Berger and Sarah Jacobs, co-founders of Jacobs Berger, LLC, a boutique divorce and family law firm in Morristown, New Jersey. Together, they discuss the four key things you should know before hiring a divorce attorney and how the legal process can better support divorcing families.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

The Importance of Practicality in Legal Representation – How tailored, client-focused approaches can reduce stress and improve outcomes.
The Value of a Strategic Partnership – Why it’s critical to work with an attorney who listens and collaborates to achieve your goals.
Understanding the Role of a Consultation Retainer – How consultation retainers provide ongoing guidance without requiring full litigation representation.
The Power of Collaboration with Other Professionals – From financial experts to mental health professionals, learn how integrating various specialists into your divorce process can create more sustainable and effective solutions.

Key Insights:

Every divorce is unique, and your legal strategy should reflect your specific needs and goals.
Rushing into decisions can lead to costly mistakes; taking time to prepare and get informed is crucial.
Having a lawyer who respects and values your input fosters better communication and outcomes.

Connect with Jamie and Sarah:

Website: jacobsberger.com

Facebook: @JacobsBergerLLC

Instagram: @JacobsBergerLLC

Website: www.MyDivorceSolution.com

Facebook: @MyDivorceSolution

Instagram: @MyDivorceSolution

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New Year, New Beginnings: Navigating Divorce with Clarity and Confidence

Wed, 01 Jan 2025 16:11:00 -0000

In this special episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan dive into one of the most common New Year’s resolutions: the decision to get a divorce. January, often referred to as “divorce month,” is a time when many begin to confront the realities of their relationships and plan for a fresh start. If you’re thinking about divorce, already in the process, or supporting someone on this journey, this episode is packed with actionable advice to help you start the year with clarity and confidence.

✨ What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

Acknowledge Your Feelings: Understanding and leaning into your emotions as a crucial first step toward clarity.
The Importance of Getting Informed: Why having the right financial and legal knowledge is key to navigating your divorce journey effectively.
Getting Organized: Tips on gathering information, tracking your progress, and reducing stress with proper preparation.
Making a Flexible Plan: Creating a plan that works for you, with room for adjustments and pivots as needed.

💌 Engage with Us: At We Chat Divorce, we thrive on sharing real stories and practical advice. Let us know what you want to hear about in 2025! Leave your comments or reach out to us directly—we’re here to help you every step of the way. Email us at WeChat@ck11.net

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Holiday Wishes & New Traditions: Navigating Divorce During the Festive Season | We Chat Divorce

Tue, 24 Dec 2024 16:43:15 -0000

🎄 Happy Holidays from We Chat Divorce!

In this special Christmas Day episode, Catherine Shanahan and Karen Chellew reflect on the challenges and opportunities the holidays bring, especially when navigating divorce. They share heartfelt stories, practical advice, and thoughtful ideas to help you find peace and joy during the season. Whether you're co-parenting, newly divorced, or years into your journey, this episode is filled with encouragement and inspiration to help you embrace the holidays on your terms.

✨ What You’ll Hear in This Episode:

Writing a "Holiday Wish List" for yourself during divorce
Navigating the emotional ups and downs of the season
Finding peace of mind through acceptance and self-care
Starting meaningful new traditions for you and your family
Thoughtful gift ideas that focus on connection over material things
Encouragement to treat yourself with the love and kindness you deserve

The holidays may look different this year, but that doesn’t mean they can’t be special. Catherine and Karen remind you to focus on what matters most—peace, clarity, and building a future filled with hope.

❤️ From all of us at My Divorce Solution, we wish you a season of comfort, joy, and empowerment.

Happy Holidays! 🎁

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The Best of We Chat Divorce: Top Tips and Advice

Wed, 18 Dec 2024 17:18:07 -0000

Karen and Catherine are joined by the esteemed Susan Guthrie to discuss an often-overlooked yet critical aspect of divorce: the power of pausing. Susan shares her decades of experience as a top family law attorney and mediator, emphasizing how taking a pause can create space for rational decisions, foster cooperation, and significantly reduce conflict during divorce.

Key Takeaways:

The Importance of Pausing:
Taking a moment to breathe after making the decision to divorce can help reduce emotional reactivity and prevent costly mistakes.
Avoid Rushing to Hire an Attorney:
A divorce coach or financial professional may be a better first step to ensure you are prepared and informed before choosing the right legal representation.
Mediation and Cooperation:
Susan highlights how mediation and other cooperative processes focus on creating a forward-looking solution rather than litigating the past, which often leads to better outcomes.
Understanding Your Team Needs:
Building a team of professionals, including financial experts, mediators, and specialized attorneys, tailored to your divorce's unique complexities, can save time, money, and stress.
Conflict Cycles:
Reactive and aggressive behaviors, such as draining accounts or hiring overly adversarial attorneys, can escalate conflict unnecessarily. Pausing and focusing on respectful communication can prevent these cycles.

We Chat Divorce: Supporting you through every step of your divorce journey with clarity, empowerment, and expert advice.

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The Best of We Chat Divorce: Top Tips and Advice

Wed, 11 Dec 2024 16:11:08 -0000

To close out 2024, we’re reflecting on some of our top podcasts, continuing with this impactful episode. Originally published on August 2, 2023, this episode is part of our Best of We Chat Divorce series.

Original Episode Title: 5 Ways to Identify Financial Exploitation When Divorcing a Narcissist

Hosts: Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan

Key Discussion Points:

How narcissists use public generosity to mask private financial control and manipulation.
The role of power and control in narcissistic relationships, with money as the primary tool.
Five ways to identify financial exploitation and respond effectively.
Practical strategies to protect your financial future:
Set clear boundaries and ensure financial transparency.
Maintain comprehensive financial documentation.
Seek guidance from trusted professionals to navigate financial complexities.

Whether you’re facing covert financial abuse, emotional manipulation, or other forms of financial control, this episode equips you with insights to navigate these challenges and secure your financial independence.

👉 Listen now to empower yourself with strategies to protect your assets and reclaim control over your financial future!

This episode is part of our Best of We Chat Divorce series—stay tuned for more top insights and advice as we close out the year and look forward to an exciting 2025!

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The Best of We Chat Divorce: Top Podcast Tips and Insights with Caroline Strawson

Wed, 04 Dec 2024 13:51:00 -0000

The Best of We Chat Divorce: Top Tips and Advice

To close out 2024, we’re reflecting on some of our top podcasts, beginning with this impactful episode. Originally published on July 26, 2023, this episode is part of our Best of We Chat Divorce series.

Original Episode Title: Overcoming Shame and Fear in Divorce

Hosts: Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan

Guest: Caroline Strawson, Award-Winning Trauma Coach and Therapist

In this episode, Karen and Catherine are joined by Caroline Strawson, an award-winning ICF-accredited trauma coach and therapist specializing in helping women heal after narcissistic abuse. Caroline shares her journey from financial devastation and emotional trauma to empowerment and healing, using her divorce as a turning point to reclaim her life.

Learn how to view narcissism through a trauma-informed lens, overcome financial trauma, and use divorce as a tool for personal growth.

Key Discussion Points:

How financial trauma affects divorce and its lasting impact.
Understanding narcissistic abuse and why addressing it from a trauma-informed perspective is crucial.
Why divorce can be an opportunity to regain financial and emotional control.
Practical steps to rebuild your financial security post-divorce.

Whether you're dealing with a narcissistic partner or navigating the complexities of divorce, Caroline’s insights provide hope, empowerment, and practical advice for transforming one of life’s hardest moments into a source of strength.

👉 Listen now and get inspired to take control of your life!

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130. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly of Mediation: Realities You Need to Know with Elise Buie

Wed, 27 Nov 2024 18:08:00 -0000

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, hosts Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan welcome back attorney Elise Buie, founder and CEO of one of the top virtual-first law firms in the U.S. Together, they pull back the curtain on the realities of mediation—the good, the bad, and the ugly.

Mediation is often seen as the ideal path to an amicable divorce, but as Elise explains, there’s more to it than meets the eye. This candid conversation dives into:

The misconceptions about mediation and why it’s not about someone else making decisions for you.
How preparation—emotionally, financially, and legally—is key to a successful mediation process.
Why some attorneys fail their clients during mediation by neglecting critical details like financial disclosures and tax implications.
The dangers of being bullied into agreements and how to avoid mediation regret.
The importance of managing expectations and knowing your “lines in the sand.”

Elise’s no-nonsense approach sheds light on how attorneys can better advocate for their clients, the necessity of financial clarity, and the role of compromise in mediation. Catherine and Karen add their own insights, highlighting how the Divorce Financial Portrait™ provides invaluable preparation for mediation by offering a clear view of assets, debts, and long-term financial impacts.

Whether you’re contemplating mediation or already in the thick of it, this episode will equip you with the knowledge and confidence to navigate the process effectively.

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👉 Have questions about mediation or divorce? Drop them in the comments or message us directly—we’re here to help.

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129. Divorce Explored: Real Life, Real Numbers: Unpacking Financial Case Studies in Divorce

Wed, 20 Nov 2024 15:48:00 -0000

Welcome to We Chat Divorce, brought to you by My Divorce Solution! In this episode, co-hosts Karen Chellew, Legal Liaison, and Catherine Shanahan, CDFA®, dive into real-life divorce scenarios, unpacking the financial complexities that often arise during the process.

What We Cover in This Episode:

The Power of Financial Clarity:

Why understanding your financial picture is critical to reducing stress and making informed decisions.

Real-Life Case Studies:

From a 37-year marriage transformed by transparency, leading to a postnup instead of a divorce to the challenges of valuing a family business and navigating marital estate divisions and more real stories.

Overcoming Assumptions and Building Collaboration:

Karen and Catherine discuss how encouraging spouses to participate can lead to unexpected cooperation, even in seemingly contentious situations.

Balancing Emotions and Data:

Learn how separating trauma from transaction empowers clients to make sound financial decisions while navigating the emotional challenges of divorce.

Key Takeaways for Listeners:

Understand the importance of financial data—numbers don’t lie.
Encourage participation from your spouse for a smoother process.
Be prepared for mediation or litigation by knowing your best, worst, and middle-ground scenarios.

Why You Should Listen:

This episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating divorce and its financial challenges. Packed with actionable insights and relatable stories, it offers practical advice to help you move forward with confidence.

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128. Healing Financial Betrayal in Divorce: Expert Strategies for Healing and Empowerment with Lora Cheadle

Wed, 13 Nov 2024 14:04:00 -0000

In this insightful episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen and Catherine welcome Lora Cheadle, an attorney, TedX speaker, and betrayal recovery coach, to discuss the profound impact of financial betrayal in divorce. Lora, the author of Flaunt: Drop Your Cover and Reveal Your Smart, Sexy, and Spiritual Self and host of the podcast Flaunt: Create a Life You Love After Infidelity and Betrayal, shares her journey from personal betrayal to empowering others to heal and reclaim their identities.

Together, they explore:

The various types of betrayal — financial, emotional, and even self-betrayal — and how they affect self-trust and decision-making
How cultural conditioning can lead to overlooking financial independence and self-advocacy, especially for women
Actionable steps for self-recovery, such as journaling and movement, to process emotions and rebuild confidence
Lora’s "Flaunt" methodology: a five-step process to embrace authenticity and reclaim personal power, defined as:
Find Your Fetish
Laugh Out Loud
Accept Unconditionally
Navigate the Negative
Trust in Your Truth

Lora candidly shares her experience of betrayal and the personal work that led her and her husband to reconciliation, highlighting that the path forward — whether together or apart — must honor one's own needs and growth. Her "Flaunt" framework serves as a guide to shed societal expectations and live fully as your authentic self.

Gain inspiration to start your journey of healing and self-trust. Find Lora’s free Betrayal Recovery Toolkit at loracheadle.com or betrayalrecoveryguide.com.

Tune in for a conversation that emphasizes resilience, empowerment, and finding joy on the other side of betrayal.

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127. Divorce Explored: Dividing Assets in Divorce — 6 Financial Pitfalls and How to Avoid Them

Wed, 06 Nov 2024 20:46:00 -0000

In this episode of Divorce Explored, brought to you by We Chat Divorce, hosts Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan take a deep dive into the financial complexities of dividing assets during divorce. Inspired by the Morgan Stanley article, "6 Financial Mistakes to Avoid," they explore the common pitfalls that can derail financial stability and provide actionable insights to help listeners navigate asset division with clarity and confidence.

From delayed financial planning to overlooking future expenses, this episode unpacks real-world scenarios, offers expert advice, and underscores the importance of building a trusted divorce team. Whether you’re preparing for mediation, tackling financial negotiations, or simply seeking to avoid costly mistakes, this episode is packed with practical strategies to support your journey.

Key Takeaways

Plan Ahead, Strategically: Learn why delaying financial planning until after your settlement is finalized can protect you from making emotionally driven decisions.
Avoid Emotional Agreements: Understand the importance of analyzing the financial impact of your settlement to ensure long-term stability.
Account for Future Costs: Discover often-overlooked expenses, from tax liabilities to QDROs, and how to incorporate them into your plan.
Be Cautious with Asset Division: Learn how prematurely dividing assets can lead to unintended financial consequences.
Update Your Beneficiaries: Ensure your estate plan reflects your new reality while being mindful of state laws and timing.
Assemble Your Divorce Team: Build a team that works solely for you, offering personalized guidance to protect your financial future.

Resources Mentioned

Morgan Stanley’s article: 6 Financial Mistakes to Avoid https://www.morganstanley.com/articles/divorce-financial-planning-guide
Learn more about the Divorce Financial Portrait™ https://mydivorcesolution.com

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126. Parenting Plans with Purpose: Secure Your Family’s Financial Future with Tracy Malone

Wed, 30 Oct 2024 13:00:00 -0000

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, hosts Karen and Catherine are joined by special guest Tracy Malone, a recognized expert in narcissistic abuse and divorce coaching, to delve into essential yet often-overlooked financial considerations in parenting plans. Tracy introduces her new program, ParentingPlans.org, which supports parents in building comprehensive, forward-thinking parenting plans. These plans address not only custody arrangements but also the critical financial components that typical child support agreements may miss. Tracy explains why setting clear financial expectations upfront can help parents avoid future disputes and costly court visits, fostering a peaceful co-parenting environment for their children.

Key Topics Discussed:

Financial protections to include in parenting plans
Why parenting plans should extend beyond time-sharing and custody
Addressing shared expenses for children, such as braces, sports, and technology
Preventing conflicts by defining financial responsibilities from the start
Empowering parents with tools and resources for creating thorough parenting plans

Tracy Malone is a renowned author, speaker, and educator, recognized globally for her work in narcissistic abuse and divorce coaching. She is the founder of NarcissisticAbuseSupport.com and recently launched ParentingPlans.org, a resource platform guiding parents in building thoughtful, financially secure post-divorce parenting plans.

Links and Resources Mentioned:

Tracy’s website: NarcissisticAbuseSupport.com
Tracy’s program: ParentingPlans.org
My Divorce Solution’s Financial Portrait: My Divorce Solution

Listen to the full episode for more expert tips and insights to help you navigate the often-overlooked tax implications of divorce.

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125. Divorce Explored: 8 Ways to Lower the Cost of Divorce

Wed, 23 Oct 2024 14:02:00 -0000

Episode Summary:

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan break down a

Forbes article titled “8 Ways to Lower the Cost of Divorce” and provide insightful

commentary on how to navigate divorce more cost-effectively. Divorce can often feel

overwhelming, both emotionally and financially, but with proper preparation and the right

approach, couples can save money and reduce stress. From choosing the right

process—whether it’s mediation, litigation, or collaboration—to understanding how to work

with professionals like attorneys, paralegals, and financial experts, this episode guides

listeners on smart strategies to lower costs while staying organized and prepared.

Key topics include:

● The importance of preparation and choosing the right divorce process

● The value of organization when handling financial records

● Why using associates and paralegals may save you money

● When to delay paying for appraisals

● Smart strategies for dividing assets, especially retirement accounts

Key Takeaways:

● Proper planning and preparation are essential for minimizing costs during a divorce.

● Working with the right professionals, while staying organized, can make a significant

financial difference.

● The MDS Financial Portrait is an essential tool for gaining clarity and control over

your financial future.

Resources:

● MDS Financial Portrait

● Forbes article: 8 Ways to Lower the Cost of Divorce

Subscribe: Stay tuned for more episodes unraveling the complexities of finance and

divorce!

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Disclaimer:

The information provided in this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only

and should not be considered financial or legal advice. Please consult with professionals in

the relevant fields for personalized guidance.

The WeChat Divorce podcast (hereinafter referred to as the “WCD”) represents the opinions

of Catherine Shanahan, Karen Chellew, and their guests to the show. WCD should not be

considered professional or legal advice. The content here is for informational purposes

only. Views and opinions expressed on WCD are our own and do not represent that of our

places of work.

WCD should not be used in any legal capacity whatsoever. Listeners should contact their

attorney to obtain advice with respect to any particular legal matter. No listener should act

or refrain from acting on the basis of information on WCD without first seeking legal advice

from counsel in the relevant jurisdiction. No guarantee is given regarding the accuracy of

any statements or opinions made on WCD.

Unless specifically stated otherwise, Catherine Shanahan and Karen Chellew do not

endorse, approve, recommend, or certify any information, product, process, service, or

organization presented or mentioned on WCD, and information from this podcast should not

be referenced in any way to imply such approval or endorsement. The third-party materials

or content of any third-party site referenced on WCD do not necessarily reflect the opinions,

standards or policies of Catherine Shanahan or Karen Chellew.

WCD, CATHERINE SHANAHAN, AND KAREN CHELLEW EXPRESSLY DISCLAIM ANY AND

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REFERENCE TO, RELIANCE ON, OR INABILITY TO USE, THIS PODCAST OR THE

INFORMATION PRESENTED IN THIS PODCAST.

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124. Divorce and Taxes: What You Need to Know

Wed, 16 Oct 2024 19:31:00 -0000

We Chat Divorce Hosts: Catherine Shanahan and Karen Chellew

Special Guest: Hubert Johnson, Tax Attorney, Law Professor, and Founder of Guardian Tax Law

In this insightful episode of We Chat Divorce, hosts Catherine and Karen welcome tax attorney and law professor Hubert Johnson to discuss the complexities of taxes in divorce. With over a decade of experience, Hubert shares valuable insights on managing tax issues before, during, and after divorce. They cover essential topics, including filing statuses, innocent spouse relief, shared custody tax claims, and how to protect yourself from unexpected liabilities.

Topics Covered:

Common tax pitfalls to avoid in divorce
The importance of reviewing tax liabilities before finalizing settlements
Navigating innocent spouse relief and shared custody tax claims
The financial implications of filing statuses and potential liabilities
How Guardian Tax Law and My Divorce Solution can provide resources to support clients through these challenges

Key Takeaways:

Plan Ahead: Understanding tax implications early on can prevent costly mistakes.
Innocent Spouse Relief: Know the requirements and limitations before assuming it applies.
Protect Your Financial Standing: Consider the impacts of joint filings and tax settlements on long-term finances.
Get Informed: Resources like My Divorce Solution’s preparation platform and Guardian Tax Law’s consultations are crucial for smart financial decisions.

Resources Mentioned:

Guardian Tax Law https://guardiantaxlaw.com/
Smart Money Culture https://smartmoneyculture.tv/
My Divorce Solution’s Financial Portrait https://mydivorcesolution.com/financial-portrait/

Listen to the full episode for more expert tips and insights to help you navigate the often-overlooked tax implications of divorce.

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123. Divorce Explored: 7 Expert Divorce Tips - What We Recommend (And Don't)

Wed, 09 Oct 2024 12:55:00 -0000

In this episode of My Divorce Solution, Karen and Catherine dive into a recent article published

by MSN and Money Talks News, titled, “Seven Things to Do ASAP When Your Spouse Wants

a Divorce.” Together, they unpack each recommendation, offering valuable insights and

alternative approaches based on their own expertise in legal and financial guidance through the

divorce process.

From understanding why hiring an attorney shouldn’t always be the first step to protecting your

financial future with proper preparation, Karen and Catherine offer actionable advice to help you

navigate this difficult time with confidence and clarity. They also cover essential topics like

reviewing your credit report, managing joint accounts, keeping the divorce process amicable,

and communicating with your children during this challenging transition.

Topics Covered:

● Why hiring an attorney may not be the first step you need to take

● The importance of reviewing your credit report and financial accounts

● How to protect your savings and prevent unnecessary financial strain

● The power of keeping things amicable during divorce

● Why picking your battles is key to a smooth transition

● How to effectively communicate with your children about divorce

● The value of MDS’s Financial Portrait in preparing for divorce

Key Takeaways:

1. Financial Preparation: Know your assets and debts before you even think about hiring

an attorney.

2. Keep Things Friendly: Avoid jumping into aggressive actions like closing joint accounts

too early.

3. Talk to Your Children: Make sure both parents are on the same page before discussing

the divorce with your kids.

4. Credit Awareness: Check your credit report—don’t just rely on your credit score.

5. Avoid Premature Negotiations: Don’t negotiate away important assets without knowing

the full financial picture.

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Disclaimer:

The information provided in this podcast is for educational and informational purposes only and

should not be considered financial or legal advice. Please consult with professionals in the

relevant fields for personalized guidance.

The WeChat Divorce podcast (hereinafter referred to as the “WCD”) represents the opinions of

Catherine Shanahan, Karen Chellew, and their guests to the show. WCD should not be

considered professional or legal advice. The content here is for informational purposes only.

Views and opinions expressed on WCD are our own and do not represent that of our places of

work.

WCD should not be used in any legal capacity whatsoever. Listeners should contact their

attorney to obtain advice with respect to any particular legal matter. No listener should act or

refrain from acting on the basis of information on WCD without first seeking legal advice from

counsel in the relevant jurisdiction. No guarantee is given regarding the accuracy of any

statements or opinions made on WCD.

Unless specifically stated otherwise, Catherine Shanahan and Karen Chellew do not endorse,

approve, recommend, or certify any information, product, process, service, or organization

presented or mentioned on WCD, and information from this podcast should not be referenced in

any way to imply such approval or endorsement. The third-party materials or content of any

third-party site referenced on WCD do not necessarily reflect the opinions, standards or policies

of Catherine Shanahan or Karen Chellew.

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REFERENCE TO, RELIANCE ON, OR INABILITY TO USE, THIS PODCAST OR THE

INFORMATION PRESENTED IN THIS PODCAST.

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122. Navigating Divorce: Practical Tools to Manage Conflict in Divorce

Wed, 02 Oct 2024 19:12:00 -0000

In this episode of Divorce Explored, co-hosts Catherine Shanahan and Karen Chellew are

joined by special guest Cherie Morris to explore the critical role of clear communication and

documentation in the divorce process. They discuss how misinterpretations of financial

documents can lead to costly legal disputes, unnecessary stress, and delays in negotiations.

They dive into real-life examples where miscommunication over simple details—like a number

or a date—can escalate into arguments that end up costing couples thousands in attorney fees.

They’ll explain how My Divorce Solution’s approach to maintaining an organized, accessible

portal for both parties can prevent these misunderstandings, keeping the focus on productive

discussions.

Watch now to gain valuable insights on how having both emotional and financial clarity helps

you negotiate from a place of confidence and control, ultimately leading to more informed

decisions. Whether you’re just starting the divorce process or deep in financial negotiations, this

episode is packed with helpful advice to help you avoid common pitfalls.

Tune in to the full episode to learn how clear communication can save you time, money, and

stress.

Connect with us on social media:

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TikTok.com/@MyDivorceSolution

youtube.com/@WeChatDivorceByMyDivorceSo3552

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at MyDivorceSolution.com

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Cherie Morris practices as a Divorce Coach and Parent Coordinator. She is trained as a lawyer,

yoga teacher and is also an author and mother.

Cherie’s legal training makes her approach to issues logical and reasoned. She began exploring

alternate dispute resolution and mediation in order to understand how to change the nature of

conflict and improve dynamics when conflict occurs, in litigation and otherwise, when a solely

rational approach may not succeed. Her approach to conflict now is that rational thinking must

be accompanied by the ability to empathize and compromise in order to achieve successful

results.

Website: https://deardivorcecoach.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/deardivorcecoach/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DearDivorceCoach/

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121. Preparing for Divorce: Gaining Access to Your Financial Documents

Wed, 25 Sep 2024 17:27:00 -0000

We Chat Divorce by My Divorce Solution

Episode 2 in the series: How do I prepare for divorce?

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, Karen and Catherine break down the importance of gaining

access to financial documents before starting the divorce process. Listen in for important tips

like how to avoid a costly and time-consuming litigation and discovery process, by gathering

your own financial records.

What You'll Learn:

● Steps to collect joint account statements before litigation

● Why you should gather tax returns and year-end financials

● Tips on finding retirement account details that could make or break your divorce

settlement

Preparing for divorce doesn’t have to be overwhelming. Get the confidence and clarity you need

by accessing your financial documents early.

Remember: Knowledge is power. Save yourself time, stress, and money by being proactive.

Watch, listen, and subscribe to We Chat Divorce for more expert tips!

Connect with us on social media:

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The WeChat Divorce podcast (hereinafter referred to as the “WCD”) represents the opinions of

Catherine Shanahan, Karen Chellew, and their guests to the show. WCD should not be

considered professional or legal advice. The content here is for informational purposes only.

Views and opinions expressed on WCD are our own and do not represent that of our places of

work.

WCD should not be used in any legal capacity whatsoever. Listeners should contact their

attorney to obtain advice with respect to any particular legal matter. No listener should act or

refrain from acting on the basis of information on WCD without first seeking legal advice from

counsel in the relevant jurisdiction. No guarantee is given regarding the accuracy of any

statements or opinions made on WCD.

Unless specifically stated otherwise, Catherine Shanahan and Karen Chellew do not endorse,

approve, recommend, or certify any information, product, process, service, or organization

presented or mentioned on WCD, and information from this podcast should not be referenced in

any way to imply such approval or endorsement. The third-party materials or content of any

third-party site referenced on WCD do not necessarily reflect the opinions, standards or policies

of Catherine Shanahan or Karen Chellew.

WCD, CATHERINE SHANAHAN, AND KAREN CHELLEW EXPRESSLY DISCLAIM ANY AND

ALL LIABILITY OR RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL,

CONSEQUENTIAL, OR OTHER DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF ANY INDIVIDUAL’S USE OF,

REFERENCE TO, RELIANCE ON, OR INABILITY TO USE, THIS PODCAST OR THE

INFORMATION PRESENTED IN THIS PODCAST.

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120. Divorce Without Destruction: How to Reach an Amicable Divorce Resolution

Wed, 18 Sep 2024 23:36:00 -0000

In this episode, Catherine and Karen talk with Attorney Jamie Davis, a board-certified family law

specialist, financial mediator, and certified parenting coordinator. Listen to Jamie share her

expert insights on approaching your spouse, managing finances, handling confrontational

behavior, and much more. By the end of this episode, we hope you will take away valuable

insights into how to navigate divorce in a way that minimizes conflict, protects your emotional

and financial well-being, and keeps the process amicable.

Connect with us on social media:

Facebook

Instagram

TikTok

Listen to more podcast episodes, read our divorce blog, and join our free divorce support group

at mydivorcesolution.com.

Jaime Davis Is a Board Certified Specialist in Family Law, as well as a Certified Family Financial

Mediator and Certified Parenting Coordinator. She supports all areas of family law, including

complex equitable distribution and child custody cases, child support, post-separation support,

alimony, alienation of affection, and criminal conversation. I also handle family law contracts

such as Premarital, Postnuptial, and Separation and Property Settlement Agreements.

Specialties: Child Custody (including interstate and relocation cases), Child Support, Complex

Equitable Distribution, Post-separation Support, Alimony

Website: https://jaimehdavis.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jaimehdavisattorney/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Jaime-H-Davis-Attorney-1523601904571511/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/JaimeHDavisNC

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davisjaime/

The WeChat Divorce podcast (hereinafter referred to as the “WCD”) represents the opinions of

Catherine Shanahan, Karen Chellew, and their guests to the show. WCD should not be

considered professional or legal advice. The content here is for informational purposes only.

Views and opinions expressed on WCD are our own and do not represent that of our places of

work.

WCD should not be used in any legal capacity whatsoever. Listeners should contact their

attorney to obtain advice with respect to any particular legal matter. No listener should act or

refrain from acting on the basis of information on WCD without first seeking legal advice from

counsel in the relevant jurisdiction. No guarantee is given regarding the accuracy of any

statements or opinions made on WCD.

Unless specifically stated otherwise, Catherine Shanahan and Karen Chellew do not endorse,

approve, recommend, or certify any information, product, process, service, or organization

presented or mentioned on WCD, and information from this podcast should not be referenced in

any way to imply such approval or endorsement. The third-party materials or content of any

third-party site referenced on WCD do not necessarily reflect the opinions, standards or policies

of Catherine Shanahan or Karen Chellew.

WCD, CATHERINE SHANAHAN, AND KAREN CHELLEW EXPRESSLY DISCLAIM ANY AND

ALL LIABILITY OR RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL,

CONSEQUENTIAL, OR OTHER DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF ANY INDIVIDUAL’S USE OF,

REFERENCE TO, RELIANCE ON, OR INABILITY TO USE, THIS PODCAST OR THE

INFORMATION PRESENTED IN THIS PODCAST.

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119. Mediation Remorse: The Day After

Wed, 11 Sep 2024 15:54:00 -0000

As we took some time off to fully revamp our podcast, we recorded a few episodes here and there as a little treat for you before we come back in full swing!

This short episode is all about mediation remorse and the day after.

Now let’s get to it!

In this episodes we discuss:

Mediation trends
The definition of a successful agreement
Why some people choose mediation
Sallies Story: A case study

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118. Divorce Explored: Financial Abandonment

Wed, 28 Aug 2024 16:25:00 -0000

In this special explainer episode of We Chat Divorce, we delve into the complex and often emotionally charged topic of financial abandonment in divorce. Breaking ties with a spouse involves more than just emotional separation; it often requires navigating a web of financial complexities. Join us as we explore the various aspects of financial abandonment, from the professionals and people you need to help you through this process, to gaining the confidence to stand up for yourself and become a force to be reckoned with.

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117. Five Ways to Identify and Respond to Financial Exploitation When Divorcing a Narcissist Dr.Ramani Durvasula

Wed, 21 Aug 2024 18:28:00 -0000

Our episode today is all about Five Ways to identify and Respond to Financial Exploitation when divorcing a narcissist –In this episode we will discuss the money habits of a narcissist so that you can be in the know and have a plan to respond,

with Dr.Ramani Durvasula

Dr. Ramani Durvasula is a licensed clinical psychologist in Los Angeles, CA, Professor Emerita of Psychology at California State University, Los Angeles, and the Founder and CEO of LUNA Education, Training & Consulting, a company focused on educating individuals, clinicians and businesses/institutions on the impact of narcissistic personality styles.

She is an author of multiple books including It's Not You: Identifying and Healing from Narcissistic People (February 2024), Should I Stay or Should I Go: Surviving A Relationship with a Narcissist, and "Don't You Know Who I Am?": How to Stay Sane in an Era of Narcissism, Entitlement, and Incivility and her newest book, It’s Not You: Identifying and Healing from Narcissistic People will be released in February, 2024 (Penguin Life)

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We Chat Will Be Right Back!

Wed, 26 Jun 2024 17:22:36 -0000

You heard it here first!

We are taking a short break from the We Chat Divorce Podcast, and coming back better than ever!

Starting Fall 2024, our podcast will be released in seasons! Each season, we will dive even deeper into certain topics like…

Preparing Financially for Your Divorce: Everything You Need to Know to Get Ready to GO
Who's on Your Team: Featuring Multiple Divorce Experts
When they Make "Ass"ets Out of Themselves: Everything Communication in the Divorce Financial Process

And so much more…

So get your calendars marked, get prepared to learn, and we will see you in September for the launch of Season 1 of We Chat Divorce!

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116. Divorce in the Work Place: Divorce Your Spouse Not Your Employer

Wed, 19 Jun 2024 15:13:15 -0000

Welcome back to another episode of We Chat Divorce!

In this episode we spoke with Founder and President of Divorce Right, Vicky Townsend, about divorce in the workplace and the importance of staying focused and divorcing your spouse, not your employer.

We discuss topics like the steps to manage your job/career during this shift in your life, and how to effectively prepare to minimize the risks of financial and emotional damage.

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115. The Flawed Premises In Divorce Financial Planning with Dawn Wiggins

Wed, 12 Jun 2024 13:18:00 -0000

Welcome back to another episode of We Chat Divorce!

Today, we chatted with Dawn Wiggins, a Marriage and Family Therapist, on everything from the importance of separating from your emotions to getting prepared, and developing strategies to navigate your divorce with confidence and knowledge!

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114. Divorce Explored: Gaining Access to Documents: How to Prepare for Divorce

Wed, 12 Jun 2024 13:13:00 -0000

This episode is part 2 in our new series, How to Prepare for Divorce. In this episode, our co-founders Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan chat about the importance of gathering the financial information and documentation needed to fully support your marital estate.

Now let’s get to it!

In this episodes we discuss:

Gaining access to documents
The discovery process
Preparation
The documents you really need

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113. Protecting Your Wealth When Divorcing with Heather Quick

Thu, 30 May 2024 13:31:00 -0000

In this episode, our co-founders Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan chat with Heather Quick, founder and CEO of Florida Women’s Law Group, about protecting your wealth in divorce, legal strategies, and having confidence and clarity in the courtroom.

Now let’s get to it!

In this episodes we discuss:

Separating from your emotions
Getting Prepared
Developing strategies
Retirement funds
The details to not overlook when distributing assets in your settlement

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112. Divorce Explored: The Key to Supporting Your Marital Estate: Financial Information and Documentation

Thu, 23 May 2024 15:30:00 -0000

In this episode, our co-founders Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan chat about the importance of gathering the financial information and documentation needed to fully support your marital estate.

Now let’s get to it!

In this episodes we discuss:

Identifying and clarifying what a marital estate is
Understanding the components of a marital estate
Loans and debt
Retirement funds
The details to not overlook when distributing assets in your settlement

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111. Divorce Explored: From Secrets to Solutions: The Power of Financial Discovery Preparation

Wed, 15 May 2024 14:05:00 -0000

In this episode, we chat about the importance of preparing for financial discovery in divorce. This preparation is essential to achieve a fair and equitable resolution and ultimately leads to a smoother divorce process and better post-divorce financial stability.

Now let’s get to it!

In this episodes we discuss:

What discovery is in the divorce process
How the MDS Financial Portrait is different than what your attorney will do for you in discovery
Preparing for discovery and choosing an attorney that recognizes the benefit of an informed client and team approach
How the MDS Financial Portrait will add value to your divorce process and save you time and money

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110: Divorce Explored: The Financial Impact of Your Decisions in Divorce

Thu, 09 May 2024 20:11:00 -0000

Welcome back to another episode of We Chat Divorce!

In this episode, co-founders Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan speak on what the financial impact of divorce can look like for you.

Our episode today is all about the financial impact of your decisions, while understanding the uniqueness of everyone's different situations. They dive into the topics of paying off debt, inheritance, what financial decisions not to make in your divorce, and more!

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109. Overcoming the Struggle: Dealing With a Coercive Spouse with Leanne Townsend

Thu, 02 May 2024 20:14:00 -0000

Welcome back to another episode of We Chat Divorce!

In this episode, co-founders Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan, welcome Leanne Townsend, a family law attorney in Toronto.

Our episode today is all about The struggle of dealing with a coercive spouse. We dive into the challenges of managing emotions and finances when dealing with a coercive spouse. This episode covers all things domestic violence, financial abuse, financial independence post-divorce, and more!

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108. Divorce explored: Who Can Help - How to Develop Your Team of Divorce Professionals

Wed, 24 Apr 2024 13:06:00 -0000

Welcome back to another episode of We Chat Divorce!

In this episode Co-Founders Karen Chellew and Catherine Shanahan discuss the importance of developing a strong team of divorce professionals. Where to start, who you need, and the importance of preparation and a clear headspace before jumping into the process.This episode will give you the tips, advice, and clarity you need to confidently start your divorce process with a strong team on your side.

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107. The Divorce Secret No One Talks About: How to Win by Taking a Pause with Susan Guthrie

Wed, 17 Apr 2024 14:44:00 -0000

Welcome back to another episode of We Chat Divorce!

In this episode we welcome back one of our favorite guests, Susan Guthrie!

This episode is all about the divorce secret no one talks about…how to win by taking a pause! We talk about mediation, family law, and the importance of taking a breath and acting in your most rational mind when the emotions are running high.

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106. Divorce Explored: Financial Disclosures

Wed, 10 Apr 2024 21:31:00 -0000

Welcome back to another episode of We Chat Divorce!

In this throwback episode, Karen and Catherine talk about all things financial disclosures. What they are, why they are important, how to fill it out, the importance of taking your time, and if the data used is current, past, individual, or as a couple.

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105. How Prenuptial Agreements Can Keep the Drama Out of the Divorce Process with Cary Jacobson

Wed, 03 Apr 2024 16:30:00 -0000

In today’s episode, how prenuptial agreements can keep the drama out of the divorce process.

In this episode we speak with Cary Jacobson,the founder and CEO of Jacobson Family Law where she is a Best Interest Attorney, Child Advocate Attorney and Certified Mediator.

In this episode we talk about ways a prenuptial agreement can reduce conflicts during divorce, steps couples should take before drafting a prenuptial agreement and how to tailor a prenuptial agreement to meet the needs of each couple.

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104. Divorce Explored: The Challenge of Sharing Children’s Expenses While Co-Parenting

Wed, 27 Mar 2024 13:33:00 -0000

In today’s episode, we discuss the challenge of sharing children's expenses while co-parenting.

Co-parenting certainly has its list of challenges, and one of them is… What does child support cover and what do parents share?

Doing the work of creating a solid picture of child related spending, reduces financial stress and helps you stay focused on what matters most.

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103. The Property Split: Mortgage Solutions for Divorcing Couples with Karla Kyte

Wed, 20 Mar 2024 14:38:00 -0000

In today’s episode, The Property Split: Mortgage Solutions for Divorcing Couples, we welcome Karla Kyte, the Branch Manager and Originating Loan Officer at Cross Country Mortgage based in Denver, CO.

In this episode, we dive into the complex world of handling home equity and mortgages amidst the challenges of divorce.

Some things discussed in this episode are…

How divorce impacts one's ability to secure a mortgage or refinance
Common financial mistakes people make during divorce that affects their mortgage options
How child support or alimony payments impact your mortgage qualification
And more

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102. Divorce Explored: Making the Case for Financial Clarity in Your Divorce

Wed, 13 Mar 2024 14:35:00 -0000

In this episode we chat about what financial clarity really means. Financial clarity will have a different meaning depending on who you ask. Preparing, being clear, and being informed are the most important aspects when it comes to getting divorced. This means being informed on things like…

The documents your attorney really needs
Having access to accounts
What you don’t have, what you want, and what you need
The differentials and what you will walk away with
Knowing your options

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101. How to Divorce Like a CEO - Optimizing the Outcome of Your Divorce with Karen Covy

Wed, 06 Mar 2024 23:30:00 -0000

Welcome to the newest episode of the We Chat Divorce Podcast, where today we welcome Karen Covy to discuss how to divorce like a CEO!

Karen Covy is a Divorce Coach, Lawyer, Mediator, Speaker, and Author. She coaches busy professionals and business owners who want to make clear, confident decisions during highly-charged emotional situations. Karen also helps her clients become the CEOs of their own divorce, so they can navigate through their divorce with less conflict, less expense, and less damage to themselves and their children. Karen is the author of

When Happily Ever After Ends: How to Survive Your Divorce Emotionally, Financially, and Legally. She is also the creator of the online divorce program, The Divorce Road Map 2.0 and the host of the podcast, Off the Fence.

In this episode we cover everything from finding the right attorney, obtaining your information, and how to make difficult decisions during your divorce.

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100. Divorce Explored: 100 Episodes Later - What You Should Know

Wed, 28 Feb 2024 15:48:00 -0000

Our newest episode “100 Episodes Later: What You should Know” is a special one!

If you haven't noticed yet… It’s our 100th Episode. In this special explainer episode we are taking a walk down memory lane, talking about our favorite client success stories, and sharing with you what we really think you NEED to know after 100 podcast episodes.

This has been made possible by all of you listeners, our amazing guests, and our clients by being so supportive, sharing your expertise, and choosing MDS to be a part of your divorce journey.

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99. Preparing For Divorce: Financial Literacy Matters with Tony Steuer

Wed, 21 Feb 2024 16:22:00 -0000

In this episode of the “We Chat Divorce” Podcast, we dive into the world of Financial Literacy and why it matters. We welcome Tony Steuer, an internationally recognized financial preparedness advocate, podcaster and award winning author.

Join us as we discuss topics such as healthy money habits, being empowered with your money, taking control of your financial life, and creating a system for optimal organization and money maintenance.

Figuring out your finances in the midst of divorce seems daunting, but Tony’s expertise offers valuable insight and practical advice to manage your money in the best way possible.

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98. Mastering Your Understanding of Co-Parenting Triggers with Jay Skibbens

Wed, 14 Feb 2024 16:43:00 -0000

This episode is all about Managing Co-Parenting Triggers – Mastering your parenting plan, with Jay Skibbens!

In this episode we discuss everything from co-parenting, to financial triggers, and cycle journaling.

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97. Divorce Explained - From Secrets to Solutions: The Power of Financial Discovery Preparation

Wed, 07 Feb 2024 14:05:13 -0000

Now let’s get to it!

In this episodes we discuss:

What discovery is in the divorce process
How the MDS Financial Portrait is different than what your attorney will do for you in discovery
Preparing for discovery and choosing an attorney that recognizes the benefit of an informed client and team approach
How the MDS Financial Portrait will add value to your divorce process and save you time and money

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Listen to more podcast episodes, read our divorce blog, and join our free divorce support group at mydivorcesolution.com.

The We Chat Divorce podcast (hereinafter referred to as the “WCD”) represents the opinions of Catherine Shanahan, Karen Chellew, and their guests to the show. WCD should not be considered professional or legal advice. The content here is for informational purposes only. Views and opinions expressed on WCD are our own and do not represent that of our places of work.

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96. Go Bold: Trusting Your Gut and Finances After Betrayal with Jessica Frew

Wed, 31 Jan 2024 16:38:00 -0000

Our episode today is all about going BOLD– Trusting Your Gut and Finances After Betrayal. In this episode we discuss the importance of knowing and understanding your finances even in crises.

We spoke with Jessica Frew, podcast host and owner of The BOLD Logic, about creating a life you love, no matter your circumstances.

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95. Divorce Explored: Financial Abandonment

Thu, 25 Jan 2024 17:06:00 -0000

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94. Five Ways to Identify and Respond to Financial Exploitation When Divorcing a Narcissist with Dr.Ramani Durvasula

Wed, 17 Jan 2024 17:10:00 -0000

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93. Divorce Explored: Why Financial Self-Care is so Important When Divorcing

Wed, 10 Jan 2024 16:11:00 -0000

Welcome to Divorce Explored! On these special explainer episodes, we answer the top questions about divorce -giving you confidence and clarity.

In this episode we talk about why financial self-care is so important when divorcing, where to start and how to make sure your well-being is a big part of the equation.

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92. Practicing Financial Self Care When Divorcing a Narcissist with Tracy A. Malone

Fri, 05 Jan 2024 19:34:00 -0000

In today’s episode, we are going to discuss Practicing Financial Self Care when divorcing a narcissist

Tracy A. Malone is a narcissist abuse survival coach and founder of NarcissistAbuseSupport.com, a global resource to empower victims of emotional abuse

Tracy has a popular YouTube channel and podcast that has reached millions of survivors as well as her books “Divorcing your Narcissist” and “You Can’t Make This Shit Up”

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91. Nurturing Self Trust On The Journey Of Divorce with Tonya Carter

Wed, 27 Dec 2023 16:01:00 -0000

In this special episode of the "We Chat Divorce" podcast, we delve into the complex world of nurturing self trust on the journey of divorce, with a focus on the financial abuse that often accompanies your mind and sense of self. Join us as we welcome Tonya Carter, a renowned marriage and relationship exit strategist, who uses her knowledge, experience, and expertise, to help women navigate through the process of uncoupling.

Divorcing can be difficult but Tonya provides support, advice, resources, and tools that will help mitigate interruptions in their business, their work performance, and household obligations. Throughout this episode we explore:

✔️Trusting yourself to make difficult decisions.

✔️ How to start being all in for YOU, and not asking for permission.

✔️ Setting aside your emotions to communicate more clearly and calmly.

✔️Having the confidence to stand up for your financial well being.

✔️We also discuss the vital role of setting positive examples for our children during and after divorce, demonstrating resilience, strength, and self-worth.

Tonya Carter and our hosts will equip you with the knowledge and tools you need to navigate this challenging journey, protect your financial well-being, and emerge stronger on the other side.

Tune in to discover how to regain control, heal, and move forward with your life by trusting yourself and becoming confident in YOU.

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90. Shedding Light on Financial Darkness

Wed, 06 Dec 2023 15:55:27 -0000

In today’s episode of the "We Chat Divorce" podcast, we are talking to Wendy Sloane, a former TV Producer and former Host and Executive Producer of the What’s Up with Wendy Celebrity radio show and podcast. Now, she’s brining her own story and experience to Divorce Doesn’t Suck, and focusing on the happily every after, after divorce. It’s a podcast that highlights the possibilities and opportunities—the change to live a fulfilled and happy life.

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89. Dad’s and Divorce: Navigating the Emotional Roller Coaster

Wed, 22 Nov 2023 16:33:34 -0000

In today’s episode of the "We Chat Divorce" podcast, we delve into the complex and often turbulent journey of Dads Managing the Emotional Roller Coaster of Divorce. Join us as we explore strategies to navigate this challenging chapter with resilience, intention, and a clear sense of purpose.

Our special guest for this episode is Ralph, the Founder of Dad Starting Over. Ralph is a prolific author with four books under his belt, including the widely acclaimed "The Dead Bedroom Fix." He has created a supportive community for men called The DSO Fraternity, where individuals can find guidance and connection during their life transitions.

Throughout our conversation with Ralph, we'll uncover valuable insights on how to stay composed amid the emotional whirlwind of divorce, ensuring that you don't become entangled in the web of emotional distractions. Whether you're a dad going through a divorce or simply seeking wisdom on managing life's toughest challenges, this episode promises to be an enlightening and empowering discussion.

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88. Escaping the Narcissistic Trap in Divorce

Wed, 15 Nov 2023 16:26:35 -0000

In this special episode of the "We Chat Divorce" podcast, we delve into the complex world of divorcing a narcissist, with a focus on the financial abuse that often accompanies such relationships. Join us as we welcome Amy Goff, a renowned narcissistic abuse and trauma specialist, who specializes in helping women, especially single moms, heal, set boundaries, regain control, and move forward after dealing with narcissistic partners.

Divorcing a narcissist can feel like an uphill battle, but Amy brings her expertise to the table, offering invaluable insights and practical advice. Throughout the episode, we explore:

✔️Recognizing the telltale signs of narcissistic behavior in a partner.

✔️Strategies to break free from the narcissistic trap during divorce proceedings, including dealing with financial abuse.

✔️The importance of setting and maintaining healthy boundaries to protect your financial future.

✔️Empowering stories of women who have successfully overcome narcissistic abuse and rebuilt their lives while setting good examples for their children.

✔️We also discuss the vital role of setting positive examples for our children during and after divorce, demonstrating resilience, strength, and self-worth. If you're facing the daunting prospect of divorcing a narcissist or know someone who is, this episode is a must-listen.

Amy Goff and our hosts will equip you with the knowledge and tools you need to navigate this challenging journey, protect your financial well-being, and emerge stronger on the other side.

Tune in to discover how to regain control, heal, and move forward with your life after divorcing a narcissist while setting a positive example for your children.

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87. Financial Abuse Awareness: Protecting your financial future and well-being

Wed, 18 Oct 2023 14:18:14 -0000

In this episode, we are shining a spotlight on a crucial issue as we recognize October as Domestic Violence Awareness Month. It's a time to raise our voices and stand together against all forms of domestic violence, including one of the most insidious yet often overlooked aspects: financial abuse.

Join us as we delve into the shadows of domestic abuse and one of its forms, financial abuse. We start by unpacking the fundamental question: What is Financial Abuse? By definition financial abuse is the use of a person's money or finances without their knowledge or consent in order to gain power and control over them. This type of abuse is a less commonly understood form of domestic abuse. We believe in the power of knowledge, awareness, and community support to make a difference.

So, whether you're tuning in to learn more about financial abuse, seeking help for yourself or someone you care about, or simply standing in solidarity with survivors, this episode is for you. Together, let's break the cycle of abuse and create a safer, more empowered future for all."

If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence, call the National Domestic Violence Hotline: 800-799-7233

In this episodes we discuss:

What is Financial Abuse?
How does Financial Abuse reveal itself
What can you do about it?

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86. Navigating Legal Representation in High Conflict Divorces – How to Stay Sane and Smart.

Wed, 04 Oct 2023 14:52:54 -0000

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, we welcome Lisa Johnson, co-founder of Been There Got Out.

As Co-Founder of Been There Got Out, Lisa is a high conflict divorce coach and certified domestic violence advocate who has successfully represented herself through scores of court appearances. Her case, published in the Connecticut Law Journal, is being used as legal precedent. Her live testimony helped pass Jennifer's Law in Connecticut, the third state in America to expand its legal definition of domestic violence to include “coercive control.” She and her partner, Chris, the male half of Been There Got Out, coach people in high-conflict relationships, divorce, custody battles, and co-parenting hell so they have the chance of the best outcome in family court and beyond. They also offer a weekly Legal Abuse Support Group for those dealing with narcissistic opponents in legal matters. Their book, "Been There Got Out: Toxic Relationships, High-Conflict Divorce, and How to Stay Sane Under Insane Circumstances'' was released in March 2023.

Our episode today is all about Navigating Legal Representation in High Conflict Divorces – How to Stay Sane and Smart.

In this episode we will discuss:

Forms of legal abuse and what you can do about it
How to find the right support resources for yourself
Why a high-conflict person doesn’t just move on after divorce
What trauma can look like after a high-conflict divorce

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85. Thinking Divorce? It Matters Where You Start

Wed, 20 Sep 2023 15:49:00 -0000

In this episode, we sit down with Beverly Price, host of the Her Empowered Divorce Podcast, which focuses on a woman’s divorce journey.

She has a personal history with divorce, co-parenting, domestic violence and more. Combining this personal experience with her training, professional certifications and business knowledge, she helps women by supporting them along their grief journey, helping them to work through resentments, fear, sadness and shock.

Our episode today is all about the importance of where you start when thinking divorce.

In this episode we discuss:

How to begin the divorce process right away – and even before the first conversation.
The difference between a Therapist and Divorce Coach.
The importance of compassionate communication between you and your spouse
Why women are more susceptible to financial abuse than men.
The most important conversation you can have in divorce.

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84. From Secrets to Solutions: The Power of Financial Discovery Preparation

Wed, 06 Sep 2023 14:12:43 -0000

Now let’s get to it!

In this episodes we discuss:

What discovery is in the divorce process
How the MDS Financial Portrait is different than what your attorney will do for you in discovery
Preparing for discovery and choosing an attorney that recognizes the benefit of an informed client and team approach
How the MDS Financial Portrait will add value to your divorce process and save you time and money

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83. Tips to Building a Divorce Strategy

Tue, 22 Aug 2023 21:44:30 -0000

In this episode, we welcome Hirsch Serman, a CPA, trained mediator and CDFA. Hirsch helps his clients work through financial complexities, tax ramifications and inequities in the settlement process.

Hirsch is committed to helping each client understand the more complex tax and financial implications of their situation so that they can create a divorce settlement that truly accomplishes their goals.

We hope this episode provides some tips to help you develop your divorce strategy!

We also chat with Hirsch about:

Identifying values and priorities in your divorce
How to know what items you’re willing to give up
Knowing your starting point and ending point in the negotiation process

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82. Turning Heartbreak into Power

Wed, 09 Aug 2023 15:37:00 -0000

In this episode, we welcome Gabrielle Stone, an American author, actress, dancer and director. After the rug was vigorously pulled out from under her when her husband’s affair came to light, she found herself falling into the arms of another man. After a second failed attempt at love and a massive heartbreak, she decided that instead of landing flat on her ass—she’d make a career out of it. And so came the birth of the book Eat, Pray, #FML, where she shared all the mistakes, all the lessons, and most importantly, how she became a fearless leader from it all. When fans around the world demanded more, the highly anticipated sequel, The Ridiculous Misadventures of a Single Girl, and the podcast FML Talk were born—and Gabrielle soon realized that her broken heart had bloomed a movement.

This episode is all about turning heartbreak into power

We also chat with Gabrielle about:

How the trauma and heartbreak of divorce and loss can shape you as a person
Reclaiming your power after giving pieces of yourself away
Learning how to be okay by yourself
How to moving forward when you’re scared to start over

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81. Overcoming Financial Trauma - How Divorce Can Become Your Superpower

Wed, 26 Jul 2023 18:21:44 -0000

In this episode, we welcome Caroline Strawson, Award Winning ICF Accredited Trauma Informed Coach and Therapist. Caroline helps women experience “post traumatic growth” after dealing with abuse from narcissistic partners.

This episode is all about how to claim or take back your financial power and how to view narcissism through a trauma-informed lens.

We also chat with Caroline about:

The journey beyond dealing with a narcissist partner - there is light at the end of the tunnel
Overcoming the trauma from being married to and divorcing a narcissist
The 5 main types of financial abuse by a narcissist
Narcissistic relationships and how to tell if you are in one

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80. Unveiling Financial Experts: Exploring Forensic Accountants and Your Divorce

Wed, 12 Jul 2023 15:58:00 -0000

In this episode, we dive into the intriguing world of finance and unravel the mysteries surrounding forensic accountants during divorce.

In this episodes we discuss:

What it means to be a Forensic Accountant
How to know if you actually need one on your divorce team
The significance of the MDS financial portrait before further seeking expert assistance

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79. Financial Challenges in Divorce When Coming Out

Thu, 29 Jun 2023 13:28:07 -0000

In this episode, we sit down with Jillian Abby, author, story teller, podcaster and advocate for the LGBTQ+ community.

This episode is all about financial challenges in divorce when coming out. In this episode we discuss how to ease the divorce process when “coming out” of a same sex marriage.

We chat with Jillian about:

Jillian’s coming out story as a spouse in a “good marriage”
The financial difficulties in divorce when coming out and being a stay-at-home parent
How to consider your emotional capital in divorce
The benefits and downfalls of being considered overly amicable in the divorce process

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78. Negative Self Talk in Divorce - How to Reframe the Way You Speak to Yourself About Finances.

Wed, 14 Jun 2023 21:09:00 -0000

In this episode, we sit down with Jackie Pilossoph, Editor and Chief of Divorced Girl Smiling. Divorced Girl Smiling (DSG) is a community of support and connection where you can feel heard and understood. DGS has a mission to empower, connect and inspire men and women before, during and after divorce.

In this episode we chat with Jackie about:

Claiming or taking back your financial power
Taking steps toward being more kind and forgiving to yourself
How financial independence can lead to independence in relationships

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77. Taking Risks in the Workplace - Divorce Tips for Starting a New Career in Divorce

Wed, 17 May 2023 19:16:47 -0000

In this episode, we sit down with Natalie Migliarini, Founder, Author, Social Media Maven, Cocktailian, Photographer, and Influencer, and Creator of Beautiful Booze. Natalie is a jack- of- all- trades when it comes to the world of creative cocktails. She has a particular aptitude for discovering unique and inventive approaches to conceiving exceptional concoctions and occasions. She began her journey as a home bartender yet has advanced over the years and developed additional specializations, including cocktail styling, journalism, social media consultation, event bartending, and so much more.

In this episode we chat with Natalie about:

Her workplace story and the hurdles she has overcome to get to where she is now
The advice she has for others facing divorce and / or job loss
Getting creative and pushing yourself to trying new things and taking risks

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76. Divorce Tips for Moms – How to Take Control of Your Divorce

Wed, 03 May 2023 21:04:00 -0000

Bill Miles and Kristen Noel are divorce coaches who help mothers take control of their divorce, get off the emotional rollercoaster and save precious time, money and heartache for their family. Together, they founded Best Self Magazine and created the Best Self Intuitive Divorce Coaching Program. Bill is a Holistic Life Coach and Kristen is a Certified Intuitive Life Coach.

In this episode we chat with Bill and Kristen about:

Taking control of your divorce
Avoiding unnecessary emotion around your children during divorce
How to make long term decisions in divorce

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75. Maximizing Your Finances During Divorce: Weighing the Pros and Cons of Using Your 401(k)

Wed, 19 Apr 2023 09:00:00 -0000

In this Divorce Explored, we dive deep into the topic of using your 401(k) to pay for divorce. We'll explore the benefits of this approach, such as avoiding high-interest debt and keeping more of your assets in-tact. However, we'll also discuss the potential downsides, including the impact on your long-term retirement savings and tax implications.

We provide insights and tips on how to make the most informed decision when it comes to using your 401(k) and protecting your finances during a divorce. We'll discuss the importance of considering alternative options and seeking professional advice before making any major financial decisions.

Join us as we break down the complexities of using your 401(k) to pay for divorce in a clear and concise manner, helping you to navigate this challenging time with confidence and financial security.

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74. Shaping Your Life for Success After Divorce with Jasmine Rice, Transformational Life Coach

Wed, 05 Apr 2023 09:00:00 -0000

We chat with Jasmine Rice, a certified transformational life coach, best-selling author, and founder of Good Things Are Gonna Come. Jasmine’s support is aimed at helping others feel empowered as they rebuild their lives following divorce or other major life transitions. We chat with Jasmine about crafting your life like a recipe, becoming more resilient, and how to have more positive thoughts.

In this episode we chat about:

What it means to become resilient and how to achieve it
Changing thought patterns to get rid of negative thoughts
Creating a successful recipe for your life

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73. Unlock Financial Freedom After Divorce with Heather Black, Founder and CEO of Supermums

Wed, 15 Mar 2023 09:00:00 -0000

This week, we chat with Heather Black, founder and CEO of Supermums. In 2010, Heather accidently stumbled upon an in-demand career path and realized her journey could empower other moms to take control of their financial futures too! This conversation is all about pivoting to rewarding and in-demand careers during and after divorce.

In this episode we chat about:

How to pivot into financial success after divorce
Finding a well paying career after being MIA from the workforce
Regaining your motivation and confidence post-divorce

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72. Taking the High Road in Divorce with Co-Parenting Expert Michelle Dempsey-Multack

Wed, 01 Mar 2023 10:00:00 -0000

In this week’s episode we chat with bestselling author and Certified Divorce and Co-Parenting Specialist Michelle Dempsey-Multack about how to take the high road during divorce. We discuss how taking the high road can be beneficial for both spouses - as well as your children. Join us as we help parents co-parent in a way their children can be proud of!

In this episode we chat about:

How taking the high road during divorce can benefit everyone
Listening to feedback from your child instead of inserting your opinion
Tips for navigating divorce as a mom

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71. Dividing Divorce Assets with Family Law Attorney Joseph Willmore

Wed, 15 Feb 2023 10:00:00 -0000

In this week’s episode we chat with family law attorney Joseph Willmore, who is a Board Certified Family Law Specialist (CFLS) in California. Joseph exclusively practices family law, which includes divorce, child custody, support, and restraining orders. This episode covers community assets and how they are split during divorce, housing during the divorce process, and executive compensation.

In this episode we chat about:

What community property is and how it's divided during divorce
What Watts Charges and Epstein Credits are and how they impact divorce
How executive compensation is handled in California divorces

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70. Navigating Divorce When Your Child Has Special Needs with Rebecca Stern, Divorce and Family Mediator

Wed, 01 Feb 2023 10:00:00 -0000

In this week’s episode we chat with Rebecca Stern, a divorce and family mediator, about the adjustments you may need to make during divorce when a special needs child is involved. Rebecca works both in-person and virtually with families across the country in both amicable and high-conflict divorces.

In this episode we chat about:

How a special needs child can affect terms in your settlement agreement
How to adjust financials in a divorce when you have a special needs child
Ensuring your child has the proper programs and resources

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69. Avoid Costly Tax Penalties & Protect Retirement Savings In Divorce

Wed, 18 Jan 2023 10:00:00 -0000

Ready to make sure your retirement, 401k, and Roth accounts are properly set up during a divorce? Tune in this week for our episode as we cover the costly mistakes you'll want to avoid, and how taxes factor into all of it. We chat about everything from avoiding penalties that come with taking money out of funds, what needs to be considered before signing any agreements - even down to correctly calculating assets.

Don't miss out on making sure you have peace-of-mind when it comes to divorce decisions involving your retirement accounts.

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68. Breaking Bad Habits and Forming Healthy New Ones in the New Year with Dr. Terri Absher, Health and Fitness Pro

Wed, 04 Jan 2023 10:00:00 -0000

Get ready to make the best version of yourself with Dr. Terri Absher, a powerhouse of knowledge in the health and fitness world! From her companies Rebuilding Her and Next Level Health & Fitness, she's here to give us tips on how overcoming bad habits can create success both financially and physically. With a background as diverse as her credentials (Licensed PT, Certified Nutrition Coach and IFBB Bikini Pro), you don't want miss out on these wellness strategies.

In this episode, we chat about:

Preparing for divorce
Fitness and finances
Breaking bad habits, and
Forming good, healthy habits

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67. Holiday Redux: Top Tips for Divorcing a Narcissist Ex with Tracy Malone

Wed, 21 Dec 2022 10:00:00 -0000

Happy Holidays from the MDS team. We’re taking a short holiday break and want to re-share our most popular episode from this year. Dealing with a narcissist ex is a year round challenge, but it can be especially difficult during the holidays when time with children and gifts are all at play. As you prepare for the holiday season and divorce in the new year, here’s our episode on top Tips for divorcing a narcissist with Tracy Malone. We hope you find this episode helpful, and we wish you a joyful and happy holiday season.

In this week’s episode we chat with Tracy Malone, author and narcissistic abuse coach, on her strategies for protecting yourself when divorcing a narcissist! We discuss behaviors of narcissist exes and how divorcing a narcissist is different from a “typical divorce.”

In this episode we chat about:

Gaslighting and how narcissists can make you question your sanity
The small divorce details you should pay attention to when divorcing a narcissist
Overcoming fear and protecting your own assets when divorcing a narcissist

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66. What to Know Before Finalizing a Financial Disclosure in Divorce: Divorce Explored

Wed, 07 Dec 2022 10:00:00 -0000

In this week’s episode we cover the importance of financial disclosures in divorce. We chat about all the components of a financial disclosure and how they can impact your divorce. Listen to the end to catch special tips such as how to make sure all of your income is properly qualified.

In this episode we chat about:

What financial disclosures are and what should be included
How to make sure your income is qualified in your divorce
Why financial disclosures are important in a divorce

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65. How to Divorce Amicably with Tracy Moore-Grant, Founder of the Amicable Divorce Network

Wed, 23 Nov 2022 10:00:00 -0000

In this week’s episode we chat with Tracy Moore-Grant, founder of the Amicable Divorce Network, an international association of seasoned, licensed professionals who are dedicated to helping reasonable people navigate the process of divorce. Tracy has represented clients and practiced exclusively in the area of family law since 2002, giving expert divorce guidance and helping parties avoid costly and destructive litigation.

In this episode we chat about:

What it means to divorce amicably and how to get started
How to find the best professional to support your amicable divorce
The alternative solution to traditional litigation-forward attorneys

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64. Healing from Divorce and Starting Anew with Gilza Fort Martinez

Wed, 02 Nov 2022 09:00:00 -0000

In this week’s episode we chat with Gilza Fort-Martinez, a licensed marriage and family therapist with over 25 years of expertise in couples therapy, conflict resolution, and improving interpersonal relationships. Gilza teaches us the four Rs of emotional restoration and how to rebuild trust in a new relationship.

Gilza is the founder and CEO of Resolution Counseling Center, a private practice in South Florida where she has successfully helped hundreds of individuals create paths of resolution that have turned their lives around.

In this episode we chat about:

The four Rs of emotional restoration according to Gilza
Recovering from betrayal trauma
How to properly rest after a divorce, and
How to rebuild trust and start anew in a new relationship

You can find more about Gilza:

Listen to more podcast episodes, read our divorce blog, and join our free divorce support group at mydivorcesolution.com.

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63. Financial Divorce Secrets from a CDFA

Wed, 19 Oct 2022 09:00:00 -0000

In this week’s episode we chat with Marianna Goldenberg, CDFA, about financial divorce topics you may not know about. Marianna shares with us the five most common mistakes when dividing executive compensation in divorce and other insider financial divorce tips.

Marianna has 30 years of industry experience and is the founder and CEO of CURO Wealth Management. As a CDFA, Marianna loves to empower people to make important decisions for their financial future.

In this episode we chat about:

Why deferred compensation plans are important to your financial future
The 5 most common mistakes spouses make when splitting executive compensation
The different options for deferred compensation plans

You can find more about Marianna:

Listen to more divorce podcast episodes, read our divorce blog, and join our free divorce support group at mydivorcesolution.com.

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62. How to Make a Divorce Plan that Works: Don't Overlook this Critical First Step

Wed, 05 Oct 2022 09:00:00 -0000

There's a crucial gap in the divorce legal system that most people aren't aware of. If you are considering divorce, a divorce plan is a critical first step for setting yourself up for success. This week, we show you how to create a divorce plan that will prepare yourself and your divorce team for one of the most challenging aspects of divorce - the separation of finances.

In this episode we chat about:

The missing gap in the divorce system you may not be aware of
How a good divorce plan can save time and fees with your divorce attorney or mediator
How to shift power away from the legal system and towards yourself

Listen to more podcast episodes, read our divorce blog, and join our free divorce support group at mydivorcesolution.com.

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61. Men, Boundaries, and Divorce: Insider Divorce Strategies for Men

Wed, 21 Sep 2022 09:00:00 -0000

While we focus a lot on women's perspectives on We Chat Divorce, on this episode we explore men's experience in divorce.

This week, we chat with Rob Roseman, creator of WTF divorce, host of Dad the Best I can Podcast, and divorced dad of three. We discuss how men find their divorce support system and the actions you are unknowingly taking that are over-complicating your divorce.

In this episode we chat about:

How men deal with divorce differently than women
Finding the right divorce support system as a man
How to stop over-complicating your divorce

Connect with Rob and WTF Divorce:

Website: WTF Divorce
Instagram: @wtfdivorce
Podcast: Dad the Best I Can

Listen to more podcast episodes, read our divorce blog, and join our free divorce support group at mydivorcesolution.com.

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60. Supporting Children Through Divorce with Danielle Kelly

Wed, 07 Sep 2022 09:00:00 -0000

We focus a lot on the spouses during divorce, but what about our kids? This week, we chat with Danielle Kelly to understand divorce through our childrens’ perspective. We discuss everything from how we should approach our kids about divorce to ensuring they have the right support system. Watch the whole episode to hear Danielle’s takeaways from her parents’ divorce.

In this episode we chat about:

When to tell your kids about divorce and how it affects them
Finding the right support system for your kids
The different ways your kids may deal with divorce emotionally

Find more podcast episodes, divorce blogs, and our divorce community at mydivorcesolution.com.

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59. Credit Cards, Debt, & Divorce: Divorce Explored

Wed, 17 Aug 2022 09:00:00 -0000

Credit Cards, Debt, and Divorce. Don’t worry, this week, we tackle it all and chat about the importance of knowing which assets and debts belong to which spouse. When spending money or paying off debts, make sure to categorize each one to avoid costly mistakes during divorce.

In this episode we chat about:

How to categorize spending as personal or marital
Why you shouldn’t pay off debt too early without knowing how much your spouse is liable for
How to negotiate debt during a divorce

Find more podcast episodes, divorce blogs, and our divorce community at mydivorcesolution.com.

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58. Get Savvy About Divorce Finances with Stacy Francis

Wed, 03 Aug 2022 09:00:00 -0000

In this week’s episode we chat with Stacy Francis, founder of Francis Financial and Savvy Ladies - a nonprofit that empowers women to take financial control. Stacy shares with us her expertise in divorce finances, as well as top mistakes to avoid when it comes to splitting assets.

In this episode we chat about:

Identifying different financial assets and how to find the “hidden” ones
Calculating the worth of assets correctly to avoid costly lawsuits
How cryptocurrency can play a bigger role in your divorce than you think

You can find more about Stacy:

Find more podcast episodes, divorce blogs, and our divorce community at mydivorcesolution.com.

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57. How ADHD Impacts Divorce with David Dewitt, CFP for Adults with ADHD

Wed, 20 Jul 2022 09:00:00 -0000

In this week’s episode, we chat with David DeWitt, CFP about ADHD and how it impacts the divorce process. David, a Certified Financial Planner for adults with ADHD joins us to talk about finances, investing, and other areas of life that ADHD impacts. Listen to the end to hear David’s insights on what ADHD behaviors look like in adults and tips to keep your finances in check.

In this episode we chat about:

How ADHD impacts financial behaviors and exercises to manage it
How to manage ADHD to make investment decisions without emotion
How to avoid being a target in divorce if you have ADHD

Connect with David:

Find more podcast episodes, divorce blogs, and our divorce community at mydivorcesolution.com.

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56. How to Understand Your Worth in Divorce with Kate Anthony

Wed, 06 Jul 2022 09:00:00 -0000

In this week’s episode we chat with Kate Anthony, host of the New York Times recommended podcast “The Divorce Survival Guide”. We have open and honest conversations about abuse, finances, separation, and the hardest question of all, should you stay or should you go?

In this episode we chat about:

How to withstand coercive behavior and gaslighting in divorce
How financial abuse is one of the most common forms of abuse
How to understand your financial contributions as a stay at home parent and claim your rightful assets in divorce

You can find more about Kate:

Find more podcast episodes, divorce blogs, and our divorce community at mydivorcesolution.com.

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55. Divorce Tips for Dads

Wed, 15 Jun 2022 09:00:00 -0000

In this week’s episode we chat about dad’s side of divorce, and the importance of keeping our kids out of the line of fire during the divorce process. We discuss the importance of spending time with our kids and how to avoid abusing our financial situation.

In this episode we chat about:

Shifting blame away from your kids for your decisions
The importance of showing up consistently for your kids
Avoiding using finances as an advantage over your ex

Find more podcast episodes, divorce blogs, and our divorce community at mydivorcesolution.com.

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54. Covering Your Divorce Bases with Cindy Stibbard, Divorce Coach

Wed, 01 Jun 2022 09:00:00 -0000

This week, we chat with Cindy Stibbard, a professional divorce coach, about how to properly cover all of your bases when going through a divorce. Getting an attorney doesn’t mean your work is done in protecting yourself; there are some aspects of divorce an attorney isn’t qualified to advise on. You still need to stay aware, process the divorce emotionally, and make a plan for moving on.

We dive deep with this divorce coach into:

How to get yourself prepared for all aspects and stages of a divorce
The benefits of having a divorce coach to help you navigate your emotions
Why an attorney is not an all-in-one solution to your divorce

You can find more about Cindy:

Find more podcast episodes, divorce blogs, and our divorce community at mydivorcesolution.com.

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53. Divorcing A Narcissist with Tracy Malone

Wed, 18 May 2022 09:00:00 -0000

In this episode we chat about:

Gaslighting and how narcissists can make you question your sanity
The small divorce details you should pay attention to when divorcing a narcissist
Overcoming fear and protecting your own assets when divorcing a narcissist

You can find more about Tracy:

Find more podcast episodes, divorce blogs, and our divorce community at mydivorcesolution.com.

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52. Divorce Explored: Divorce Tips For Moms

Wed, 04 May 2022 09:00:00 -0000

In this week’s Divorce Explored we give out some crucial divorce tips for mothers. Make sure you’re prepared and don’t finalize your divorce without knowing these!

In this episode we chat about:

How to financially prepare for the divorce process
Avoiding rash decisions by keeping your emotions in check
Believing in yourself by standing up for yourself and your children

You can find blogs, articles, and more divorce resources on our website at mydivorcesolution.com.

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51. Divorce Explored: Divorce Settlement Agreements

Wed, 20 Apr 2022 09:00:00 -0000

In this week’s Divorce Explored we chat all things Settlement Agreements. Find out what you need to know about these Agreements, and how to cover your bases to best protect yourself.

In this episode we chat about:

What’s included in a Divorce Settlement Agreement
The differences between a Divorce Settlement Agreement and Divorce Decree
Paperwork you need for yourself and your attorney to protect yourself and your assets

In each episode of We Chat Divorce we demystify a divorce topic -- exploring divorce and its impacts on your finances. We'd love to hear your episode suggestions: email us at: hello@mydivorcesolution.com.

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50. How to Have an Amazing Divorce with Karen Millon

Wed, 06 Apr 2022 09:00:00 -0000

This week Karen Millon from Healin Podcast joins us to chat about what stops us from reaching our life goals, and how to overcome these obstacles.

In this episode we hear about:

Shedding negative thoughts about yourself and reshaping your confidence after divorce
Knowing you are capable of taking initiative to explore the unfamiliar and unknown
Understanding the side effects of your divorce decisions to make the right decisions

Karen Millon, author of An Amazing Divorce and certified Transformational Life Coach, is on a mission to inspire and support talented individuals who are struggling with their divorce or breakups and want to thrive personally, romantically and professionally.

To connect with Karen:

Web: Healin Podcast
Social media: @healinwithkaren
Social media: @healinpodcast

You can find blogs, articles, and more divorce resources on our website at mydivorcesolution.com.

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49. Navigate Your Divorce Like A Chess Game with Ashley Nicole Russell, Family Law Attorney

Wed, 16 Mar 2022 09:00:00 -0000

This week, we chat with Ashley Nicole Russell on how her law practice helps clients divorce with integrity.

In this episode we hear about:

Maintaining the power in your divorce by picking the right attorney
Keeping the wrong people away from your divorce to build a strong foundation for your future
Collecting the right resources so you can take control in divorce - treating divorce like a chess game instead of feeling like a pawn in a legal game

Ashley-Nicole Russell, Esq. is an award-winning family law attorney, author, and speaker who is changing the way divorce is perceived around the world. She is widely-known as a dedicated, passionate, and trustworthy attorney with integrity. She is committed to protecting her clients while understanding the needs of their families. As a child of divorce and divorcee, she brings a unique, relatable, and personal understanding to ANR Law Offices and the communities it serves. As the first collaborative law firm in eastern North Carolina, ANR Law has office locations in Greenville, Raleigh, Beaufort, and Wilmington.

To connect with Ashley: ANR Law

You can find blogs, articles, and more divorce resources on our website at mydivorcesolution.com.

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48. Restore Your Financials After Divorce with Paula Nangle, CFP

Wed, 02 Mar 2022 10:00:00 -0000

Certified Financial Planner Paula Nangle, President of Marshall Financial Group, shares her insights on helping clients achieve their maximum potential in life.

In this episode we hear about:

How Paula’s expertise not only helps clients with their financials, but she also helps them live to their best potential
Top tips to maintain or restore your credit score after a divorce
Surviving the twists and turns of life when going through a divorce

Paula is a Certified Financial Planner and has been President of Marshall Financial Group since 2016. Paula is laser-focused on instilling the values that have guided Marshall Financial for 40+ years. “Running the firm is truly a team approach, with everyone in our management group working together seamlessly and in the same direction,” she says.

To connect with Paula: Marshall Financial

You can find blogs, articles, and more divorce resources on our website at mydivorcesolution.com.

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47. Seeking Empowerment: The Four Quadrants of Divorce with Jennifer Warren Medwin

Wed, 16 Feb 2022 10:00:00 -0000

This week we have Jennifer Warren Medwin on the podcast to share with us the Four Quadrants of Divorce as highlighted in her book “Strategies and Tips from a Divorce Coach: A Roadmap to Move Forward.”

In this episode we hear about:

The biggest issue that couples face in a relationship
The four quadrants you need to know to be prepared for divorce
Separating the different aspects of divorce for making clear decisions

Jennifer is a Certified Divorce Coach, Supreme Court of Florida Family Mediator, and a Certified Marital Mediator. She’s distilled her divorce coaching expertise into a new book and My Divorce Solution is featured on page 84!

To connect with Jennifer: Seeking Empowerment

You can find blogs, articles, and more divorce resources on our website at mydivorcesolution.com.

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46. exEXPERTS: Combating Divorce Stigmas

Wed, 02 Feb 2022 10:00:00 -0000

This week we have T.H. and Jessica from exEXPERTS to give us their advice on the best ways to deal with divorce stigmas.

In this episode we hear about:

The way society treats divorcees, and the stigmas that come with it
Creating a support system to get the right feedback for yourself
Giving your children the ability to make better decisions tomorrow regardless of the ones today
How exEXPERTS can give you the knowledge of all aspects of divorce in one place

Whether you are considering separation, getting a divorce, or are a newly divorced woman, T.H. and Jessica can help you not only survive but thrive a divorce. Having gone through this process themselves, they are not only knowledgeable in the field but can personally relate to your situation. exEXPERTS’ diverse team of experts are here to empower you with the resources you need to come out of the divorce process better than ever.

To connect with ExExperts:

Website: https://exexperts.com/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZhug0U2OaOzQvgjiU4n8Vg
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/exEXPERTS/

You can find blogs, articles, and more divorce resources on our website at mydivorcesolution.com.

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45. Divorce Explored: How to Prepare for Divorce Financially

Wed, 19 Jan 2022 05:00:00 -0000

In this week’s Divorce Explored we uncover one of the hottest divorce topics: finances. We’re giving you the same insights we give our clients to help them make divorce decisions with financial clarity - not fear.

In this episode we hear about:

How to get your financial house in order when preparing for divorce
How to analyze your financial situation and set yourself up for a successful future post divorce
Financial mistakes to avoid when getting a divorce
Why a credit report gives you the information you really need for looking at your divorce finances

You can find blogs, articles, and more divorce resources on our website at mydivorcesolution.com.

The We Chat Divorce podcast (hereinafter referred to as the “WCD”) represents the opinions of Catherine Shanahan, Karen Chellew, and their guests to the show. WCD should not be considered professional or legal advice. The content here is for informational purposes only. Views and opinions expressed on WCD are our own and do not represent that of our places of work.

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44. Divorce Explored: Settlement Agreements

Wed, 05 Jan 2022 05:00:00 -0000

We’ve launched a new podcast series: Divorce Explored - where we answer all your questions about the divorce process - through a financial lens.

In this week’s Divorce Explored: Settlement Agreements, we give you all our insider information about Settlement Agreements and how to get prepared before putting anything on paper.

In this episode we hear about:

What a Settlement Agreement is
Why you might need a Settlement Agreement
The legal role of a Settlement Agreement and its standard components
How to get prepared before you start a Settlement Agreement

You can find blogs, articles, and more information on the divorce process at mydivorcesolution.com.

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43. Divorce From A Legal Perspective with Elise Buie

Wed, 22 Dec 2021 05:00:00 -0000

This week we have Elise Buie, founder of Elise Buie Family Law Group, to give us her professional opinion on the best ways to approach a divorce in order to start a better life post divorce.

In this episode we hear about:

How a divorce could be the start of a better life, not the end of your best life
Elise’s experience with her clients and how some have blossomed into millionaires
How to make the best long term decisions for your children
The difference in making objective decisions and avoiding fear based decisions

Elise Buie is the Founder Elise Buie Family Law Group, helping families live their best lives as they transition through divorce or other family changes. Her practice involves all aspects of family law: preparation of postnuptial and separation agreements, parenting plans, child support, simple and complex financial cases, relocation, and blended families.

Elise Buie, Esq. is a passionate, creative, problem-solving family law attorney who creates solutions, not obstacles. After evacuating her hometown of New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina and surviving a divorce, Elise landed in Seattle and founded her law firm. Elise's practice involves all aspects of family law, guided by a collaborative philosophy and her deep understanding of complex parenting issues. Elise opened her firm during a period of personal adversity. Now in a period of global adversity, Elise's firm has experienced its most significant growth yet, which she attributes primarily to her driving force and mantra: "I can do it."

To connect with Elise:

Website: https://elisebuiefamilylaw.com/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elise-buie/

You can find blogs, articles, and more divorce resources on our website at mydivorcesolution.com!

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42. Moving On Peacefully with Michelle Dempsey-Multack

Wed, 08 Dec 2021 07:00:00 -0000

This week, Michelle Dempsey-Multack, author of the upcoming book “Moms Moving On” joins We Chat Divorce to discuss what it means to divorce peacefully and create a healthy environment for yourself and your child.

In this episode we hear about:

How being around an environment of divorce growing up affects your views of it
How divorce doesn’t always have to be a battle to make yourself better than the other person
How to create emotional boundaries to create a safe space for your children
How divorce is a journey and the situation today won’t be the same forever

Connect with Michelle:

Website: https://momsmovingon.com/
Instagram: www.instagram.com/themichelledempsey

You can find blogs, articles, and more divorce resources on our website at mydivorcesolution.com!

The We Chat Divorce podcast (hereinafter referred to as the “WCD”) represents the opinions of Shanahan, Chellew, and their guests to the show. WCD should not be considered professional or legal advice. The content here is for informational purposes only. Views and opinions expressed on WCD are our own and do not represent that of our places of work.

Unless specifically stated otherwise, Shanahan and Chellew do not endorse, approve, recommend, or certify any information, product, process, service, or organization presented or mentioned on WCD, and information from this podcast should not be referenced in any way to imply such approval or endorsement. The third-party materials or content of any third-party site referenced on WCD do not necessarily reflect the opinions, standards or policies of Shanahan or Karen Chellew.

WCD, SHANAHAN, AND CHELLEW EXPRESSLY DISCLAIM ANY AND ALL LIABILITY OR RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL, OR OTHER DAMAGES ARISING OUT OF ANY INDIVIDUAL'S USE OF, REFERENCE TO, RELIANCE ON, OR INABILITY TO USE, THIS PODCAST OR THE INFORMATION PRESENTED IN THIS PODCAST.

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41. DIY Divorce with Erin Levine, Esq.

Thu, 11 Nov 2021 22:34:00 -0000

On the newest episode of We Chat Divorce we’re joined by Erin Levine, Esq. to discuss DIY Divorce. Levine is a Certified Family Law Specialist, owner of Levine Family Law Group and Founder/CEO of Hello Divorce. Her innovative, disruptive approach to how Americans interact with the law makes her both a loved and feared force in the legal world. With her groundbreaking divorce navigator platform, she’s revolutionizing the broken divorce process, making it affordable and available to everyone. Erin’s access to justice work has been recognized by the legal industry and beyond, with awards and recognition from the likes of Women Founders Network, Forbes, Vice, and the American Bar Association.

Learn More >> https://hellodivorce.com/about/erin-levine/

Connect with Erin Levine, Esq. on LinkedIn >> @ErinLevine

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40. Five Critical Considerations When Dividing Executive Compensation In Divorce with Marianna Goldenberg, CDFA®

Wed, 27 Oct 2021 19:48:00 -0000

On the newest episode of We Chat Divorce we’re speaking with Marianna Goldenberg, the Founder and CEO of Curo Wealth Management in Langhorne, PA. Marianna is a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA®). Marianna was just eighteen years old when she left behind the oppression and dangers of living in the Soviet Union, with a mere fifty dollars in her hand. Seeking a better life and a safe place to rebuild where opportunity was the reward for integrity and ambition, she and her immediate family left everything and everyone they knew in Russia for a fresh start in Pennsylvania. Hard work, big dreams, and an undeniable determination to succeed led Marianna to UPenn’s Wharton School of Business. At Wharton she earned degrees in mathematics and finance, thus kick-starting the financial career she is so passionate about today.

Learn More >> https://www.curowm.com/

Connect with Marianna Goldenberg on LinkedIn >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/mariannagoldenberg

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39. The Nitty-Gritty on Retirement Plan Division with Donna M. Cheswick, CDFA®, CQS

Fri, 08 Oct 2021 15:37:00 -0000

On the newest episode of We Chat Divorce we’re speaking with Donna M. Cheswick. Donna has over 30 years of experience in the financial services industry. She is a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA®) and a Certified QDRO Specialist (CQS). She is the owner of Cheswick Divorce Solutions LLC, located in Southwestern Pennsylvania, where she helps individuals, couples, and family law attorneys with all the financial complexities that arise during divorce to ensure the most financial advantageous settlement possible. Education is the backbone of her business. She frequently teaches workshops on a wide variety of topics relating to finance and divorce, as well as authors numerous articles for local/national print and online publications. Donna also is a trained divorce mediator and a collaborative financial neutral. She has also been drafting QDROs and other like orders for the last ten years.

Learn More >> http://cheswickdivorcesolutions.com/

Connect with Donna Cheswick on LinkedIn >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/donnacheswick/

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38. The Art of Re-Invention – Divorcing Without Shame with Renee Bauer, Esq.

Thu, 23 Sep 2021 18:00:00 -0000

On the newest episode of We Chat Divorce we’re joined by Renee Bauer, Esq. to discuss The Art of Re-Invention – Divorcing Without Shame. Renee Bauer is an award-winning divorce attorney, author, podcast host, and champion of finding your Happy Even After. She boldly educates and inspires women about divorce so they can move into their next chapter with confidence. She is the creator of The D Course, an online educational course designed to help save thousands of dollars in legal fees. Renee is regularly sought out by media to comment on trending family law issues. She is the Founder of Happy Even After Family Law located in Connecticut.

Learn More >> https://msreneebauer.com

Connect with Renee Bauer, Esq. on LinkedIn >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/rbauer1/

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37. The Four Cornerstones of Mediation with Winter Wheeler, Esq.

Tue, 07 Sep 2021 14:00:00 -0000

On the newest episode of We Chat Divorce we’re joined by Winter Wheeler, Esq. to discuss The Four Cornerstones of Mediation™. Wheeler, a graduate of Georgetown University and Tulane Law School, has always combined her interests in culture, diplomacy, and the law. She is especially passionate about changing the face of mediation and arbitration - by bringing compassion, listening to the forefront, and placing the litigant and emotions at the center of the conversation. Wheeler is a former top civil litigator who has made her niche as an expert mediator.

Wheeler is the creator of The Four Cornerstones of Mediation™, which she introduced to the world in her first TEDx talk in March 2021. Wheeler, a married mom of four, gave her second TEDx talk “Confessions of a Working Mom Who Has It All” in June 2021. She is co-author of the bestselling book, #Networked. She is also the creator and host of The Mediate Now™ podcast.

Our hosts, Karen and Catherine, sit down with Winter Wheeler, Esq. to discuss The Four Cornerstones of Mediation™.

Learn More >> https://www.winterwheeler.com/

Connect with Winter Wheeler, Esq. on LinkedIn >> @Winter Wheeler

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36. Divorce Attorney Secrets to Thriving BEYOND Your Divorce with Susan Guthrie, Esq.

Thu, 19 Aug 2021 14:00:00 -0000

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, we’re joined by Susan Guthrie to discuss the topic: Divorce Attorney Secrets to Thriving BEYOND Your Divorce. Here’s an overview of Susan's experience:

Susan Guthrie, nationally recognized as one of the Top Family Law and Mediation Attorneys in the United States, has been helping individuals and families navigate separation and divorce for 30 years. Susan provides exclusively online divorce mediation and legal coaching services to select clients around the world through her business Divorce in a Better Way. Susan has also recently partnered with mediation legend, Forrest “Woody” Mosten, to create the Mosten Guthrie Academy to provide cutting edge gold-standard training for attorneys, mediators and other professionals.

As a leading dispute resolution professional, Susan is honored to serve on the Executive Council of the American Bar Association’s (ABA) Section of Dispute Resolution as the Membership Officer and to be a Co Chair of the Mediation Committee and Annual Advanced Mediation Skills Institute.

Susan is also an internationally well-regarded expert in online mediation and has been training colleagues and other professionals in the practical and ethical considerations of conducting their mediations online with her innovative programs and webinars and has helped more than 18,000 colleagues transition to an online practice.

In addition to her other professional endeavors, Susan is an award-winning podcast host. Having reached a podcast listening audience of almost 4 million in the past two years, Susan is the creator and host of the hit podcast, The Divorce and Beyond Podcast with Susan Guthrie, Esq. which debuted on iTunes “Top Podcasts for Self-Help” List. She recently launched The Learn to Mediate Online Podcast with Susan Guthrie, Esq. to bring current information, updates and news on ODR to her thousands of followers.

Susan has been featured in and on media outlets such as CNBC, Market Watch, Forbes, Eye on Chicago, WGN, the ABA’s Just Resolutions Magazine, Thrive Global, The Nook Online among others.

Hosts, Karen, and Catherine sit down with Susan Guthrie to discuss Divorce Attorney Secrets to Thriving BEYOND Your Divorce.

Learn More >> https://www.divorceandbeyondpod.com

Connect with Susan on LinkedIn >> @Susan Guthrie

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35. Prenups, Do They Help or Hurt? With Shawna Woods

Mon, 09 Aug 2021 14:00:00 -0000

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, we’re joined by Shawna Woods to discuss the topic: Prenuptial and Post Nuptial Agreements. Here’s an overview of Shawna's experience:

Shawna Woods is the Managing Partner of the Atlanta Divorce Law Group. She has been practicing exclusively in Family Law for 18 years. She is the host of the soon to be launched Happily Ever After Divorce Podcasts and regularly appears as a guest on the firm’s Facebook Live.

Hosts, Karen, and Catherine sit down with Shawna Woods to discuss Prenup, Do They Help or Hurt?

Learn More >>www.atlantadivorcelawgroup.com

Connect with Shawna on LinkedIn >> @Shawna Woods

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34. How to Negotiate with a Narcissist with Rebecca Zung, Esq

Mon, 09 Aug 2021 13:26:00 -0000

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, we’re joined by Rebecca Zung to discuss the topic of How to Negotiate With a Narcissist. Here’s an overview of Rebecca's experience:

Rebecca is a narcissism negotiation expert, and one of the top 1% of attorneys in the nation, having been recognized by U.S. News & World Report as a “Best Lawyer in America”, as “Legal Elite” by Trend Magazine. She is the author of two bestselling books: Negotiate Like You M.A.T.T.E.R.: The SureFire Method to Step Up and Win (foreword by Robert Shapiro) and Breaking Free: A Step-by-Step Divorce Guide for Achieving Emotional, Physical, and Spiritual Freedom.

Her perspectives are in high demand by television and print outlets, and she's been featured in or on Extra, Forbes, Huffington Post, Newspeak Time, Dr. Drew, NPR Talk Radio, Good Day New York and CBS Los Angeles among others. Now, based in Los Angeles, she is continuing to serve through her very popular YouTube channel, media appearances, podcasts, articles, and on-demand programs such as S-L-A-Y, S.L.A.Y. Your Negotiation With a Narcissist and Breaking Free Divorce Masterclasses.

Hosts, Karen, and Catherine sit down with Rebecca Zung to discuss How to Negotiate With a Narcissist.

Learn More >>https://www.rebeccazung.com/

Connect with Rebecca on LinkedIn >> @Rebecca Zung

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33. The Dynamics of Discovery and the Divorce Process with Evan Schein

Wed, 21 Jul 2021 12:00:00 -0000

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, we’re joined by Evan Schein to discuss the topic: The Dynamics of Discovery and the Divorce Process. Here’s an overview of Evans's experience:

Evan Schein is a New York City-based divorce and family law attorney, partner and the Head of Litigation at Berkman Bottger Newman & Schein LLP. During his career, Evan has litigated high-conflict custody cases and complex financial matters. Evan leads the firm's litigation practice. He has helped clients find post-divorce happiness and build successful financial lives, advocated to protect children and fought for the rights of victims of domestic violence.

Evan is the host of the Schein On Podcast where he gives an inside and unfiltered look into the world of marriage, money, divorce and more.

Evan has taught several Continuing Legal Education seminars for various organizations and bar associations in New York and nationally and has been cited in publications for his work on prominent New York family law cases.

Hosts, Karen, and Catherine sit down with Evan Schein to discuss The Dynamics of Discovery and the Divorce Process.

Learn More >>https://scheinondivorce.com/

https://www.berkbot.com

Connect with Evan on LinkedIn >> @Evan Schein

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32. What You Need To Know Before You Get Married, Gabrielle Hartley, Esq

Wed, 30 Jun 2021 10:47:00 -0000

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, we’re joined by Gabrielle Hartley to discuss the topic of What You Need to Know Before You Get Married. Here’s an overview of Gabrielle’s experience:

Gabrielle Hartley, Esq. is a leading online mediator and family law attorney known for keeping 99% of her cases at the settlement table. She is the author of Better Apart; The Radically Positive Way to Separate, which received a glowing recommendation from Gwyneth Paltrow and People Magazine.

Before opening her full-service online mediation and professional training center, Gabrielle clerked in matrimonial court in NYC where she resolved hundreds of high conflict divorces.

She is a sought-after expert in the positive divorce space in media outlets such as The New York Times, The New York Post, U.S. News and World Report, has been interviewed on dozens of podcasts and is a regular guest on NBC Mass Appeals. Gabrielle serves on many committees within the ABA Mediation Access to Justice Week 2020, and co-chair of the DR Just Resolutions Mediation Edition. She is also on the Western MA Mediation and Collaborative Dispute Resolution Steering Committee.

Gabrielle trains divorce professionals in the Better Apart Method Online. In addition to offering training for professionals, she maintains a private mediation practice and is of counsel to Lisa Zeiderman’s law firm in Westchester and NYC.

Hosts, Karen, and Catherine sit down with Gabrielle Hartley to discuss what you need to know before you get married.

Learn More >> www.gabriellehartley.com

Connect with Grace on LinkedIn >> @Gabrielle Hartley

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31. Life Insurance and Divorce with Grace C. Roessler, Esq.

Wed, 26 May 2021 15:00:00 -0000

On this episode of We Chat Divorce we welcomed Grace C. Roessler, Esq. Grace is an associate at Mirick O'Connell's Family Law and Divorce Group in Boston. She concentrates her practice in the areas of divorce and family litigation, including pursuing and defending the following actions: divorce, custody, child support, modification, contempt, request to permanently remove children out of the Commonwealth, paternity, restraining orders, department of children and family investigations, and elder divorce. In short, Grace is a busy person. She has experience serving as a third-party neutral including court-appointed discovery master and is a certified mediator. While she aims to settle cases amicably and efficiently, including attending voluntary mediation or conciliation, Grace is prepared to litigate the matter in the best interest of the client. She regularly appears before probate and family court judges, promotions, and trials to litigate on behalf of her clients. She volunteers for the Middlesex Probate and Family Court lawyer for the day program, is an active member and contributor to the Boston Bar Association, and serves as co-chair of the Boston Bar Association Family Newsletter. Grace was selected by her peers for inclusion in The Best Lawyers in America: Ones to Watch© 2021 and The Best Lawyers in New England: Ones to Watch© 2021 in the field of Family Law. In 2019 and 2020, Boston Magazine and Law & Politics named Grace a Massachusetts “Rising Star.” Prior to joining Mirick O’Connell, Grace was an associate at the firm of Brick, Sugarman, Jones & McBrien, LLP. Here are her Bar & Court Admissions:

Massachusetts
Wisconsin
Certified Mediator

Hosts, Karen, and Catherine sit down with Grace Roessler to discuss how to navigate life insurance during divorce.

Learn More >> https://www.mirickoconnell.com/grace-c-roessler

Connect with Grace on LinkedIn >> @Grace Roessler

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30. Heal, Grow and Thrive Beyond Divorce

Tue, 27 Apr 2021 13:17:00 -0000

On this episode of We Chat Divorce we welcomed Dr. Elizabeth Cohen, Ph.D. a/k/a The Divorce Doctor. Dr. Cohen is the CEO and founder of the online divorce course and membership called Afterglow: The Light at the Other Side of Divorce. Her online course teaches women how to heal, grow and thrive after divorce no matter how difficult the process has been. She offers a monthly membership program to provide 1:1 coaching, expert support from divorce professionals and an engaged community of like-minded people.

Dr. Cohen received her PhD in clinical psychology from Boston University. She was the recipient of the prestigious American Psychological Foundation Research Award for her research on the emotional effects of 9/11. She has been featured on the Tamron Hall Show, the Wall Street Journal, NBC News, Women’s Health, Huff Post, Thrive Global, Daily Beast and Good Housekeeping. Dr. Cohen is a weekly contributor to Psychology Today with her “Divorce Course” column. Dr. Cohen hosts the Divorce Doctor podcast where she interviews people about their divorce experiences. Dr. Cohen’s book based on her Afterglow program entitled, - Light on the Other Side of Divorce: Discovering the New You was published on April 20, 2021! Congratulations Dr. Cohen!

Hosts, Karen, and Catherine sit down with Dr. Cohen to discuss how to Heal, Grow and Thrive Beyond Divorce.

Learn More >> https://drelizabethcohen.com/afterglow/

Purchase Dr. Cohen’s new book! - Light on the Other Side of Divorce: Discovering the New You

Find The Divorce Doctor – Elizabeth Cohen, Ph.D. on Facebook >>

Follow Dr. Cohen on Instagram >> @thedivorcedoctor

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29. Business Valuations and Divorce with Melissa Gragg, CVA, CFE, MAFF, CDFA

Tue, 30 Mar 2021 13:34:00 -0000

On this episode of We Chat Divorce we welcomed Melissa A. Gragg, CVA, CFE, MAFF, CDFA, and owner of Bridge Valuation Partners. Melissa provides litigation support services and expert witness testimony for marital dissolution, owner disputes, commercial litigation, business interruption claims, personal damage calculations, lost profits, and personal injury. She also conducts business valuations for purposes of estate planning as well as mergers and acquisitions.

Hosts, Karen, and Catherine sit down with Melissa to discuss Business Valuations and Divorce.

Let’s get into it!

Approaching the valuation process and understanding the reasons why.
The difference between getting a certified valuation and a non-certified valuation.
The space of divorce, the space of mediation, the space of collaborative divorce, and how valuation theory fits within that.

Learn More >> https://www.valuationstlouis.com/about-valuation-experts Find Bridge Valuation on Facebook >> https://www.facebook.com/ValuationStLouis Follow Melissa on Instagram >> https://www.instagram.com/msvaluation/----more----If you have questions for us or a topic you’d like us to cover, contact us at hello@mydivorcesolution.com or visit MyDivorceSolution.com

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28. Four Early Divorce Mistakes & How to Avoid Them

Wed, 24 Mar 2021 12:00:00 -0000

On this special bonus episode of We Chat Divorce, we are welcoming not just one but TWO AMAZING guests, Casey Shevin and Sonia Queralt, Co-founders of Divorceify.

Sonia is a divorce litigator, divorce coach, and divorce survivor. She now dedicates her career to helping people going through divorce focus on building their future. She became a programmer and co-founded Divorceify to help people demystify the complexities of the divorce process.

Casey is also a divorce litigator turned divorce mediator turned divorce innovator. Casey earned her bachelor’s degree at Smith College and studied law at Georgetown University, where she was recognized for excellence in clinical fieldwork in family law. Casey is admitted to practice law in New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania.

So, let’s get to it….

Today we are chatting about Four Early Divorce Mistakes and How to Avoid Them –

Failing to Confront Indecision
Failing to Get Organized
Choosing the Wrong Divorce Process
Hiring the Wrong Help

As companies founded by divorce professionals, My Divorce Solution, and Divorceify have quite a bit in common, beginning with our commitment to the people we serve. This partnership combines an innovative flat-rate financial foundation – The MDS Financial Portrait – with Divorceify’s roadmap that includes a customized action plan, an education, access to reliable resources, and vetted local professionals selected specifically for you. Together, we will make the divorce experience clearer and more manageable.

We are thrilled to partner with Divorceify and support all the amazing work they’re doing to positively impact how people get divorced.

Learn More >>

If you have questions for us or a topic you’d like us to cover, contact us at hello@mydivorcesolution.com or visit MyDivorceSolution.com

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27. Overcoming the "Divorce is Death" Mindset with Michelle Dempsey

Wed, 24 Feb 2021 19:05:00 -0000

In this month’s episode, we are welcoming Michelle Dempsey to the We Chat Divorce Podcast to talk about Overcoming the “Divorce is Death” Mindset.

Michelle Dempsey is a Certified Divorce Specialist, writer, mom, coach, and speaker. Michelle fully believes in the empowerment of having someone by your side to help you through the uncomfortable process of divorce. Her work has been featured in publications including Forbes, Scary Mommy, Parents, Daily Business Review, HuffPost, Elite Daily, and more. She is also the host of the Moms Moving On podcast. Michelle works with women at all stages of divorce.

Listen in as Catherine, Karen, and Michelle get together to chat about –

Getting over the divorce stigma – “Did you even try to work it out?”, “I’m so sorry about your divorce!”, “You couldn’t wait until your children were older?” … Sound familiar?
Playing victim and the effects of divorce on your children
The grieving stages of divorce

And a few laughs along the way!

Catherine always says “Divorce is only a part of your story. It is not your entire story.” Remember, it's just a chapter, just a little piece of it.

Whether you are just thinking about divorce, taking your first steps in the divorce process, or moving beyond divorce, this episode has something for you!

Get in touch with Michelle - info@momsmovingon.com

Instagram: @themichelledempsey

Become a Member: https://momsmovingon.com/become-a-member/

If you have questions for us or a topic you’d like us to cover, contact us at hello@mydivorcesolution.com or visit MyDivorceSolution.com

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26. Setting Up Your Settlement with Tiffany Hughes, Esq

Wed, 27 Jan 2021 13:00:00 -0000

In this episode, we are welcoming Attorney Tiffany Hughes, founding partner of the Law Office of Tiffany M. Hughes, to the We Chat Divorce Podcast.

As of one of Chicago’s elite law firms, The Law Office of Tiffany M. Hughes concentrates solely in the area of family and matrimonial law, whereby they represent individuals in all aspects of family and matrimonial law proceedings, including litigation, mediation, allocation of parental responsibility (formerly known as custody), parentage, divorce, orders of protection and other family-related matters.

Their mission is to deliver the most practical, experienced, and effective legal representation to their clients. In order to achieve that goal, our Attorney Hughes and her firm combine an unparalleled level of service along with legal skill and judgment designed to help their clients successfully manage all family law matters.

Today, we're going to be talking about setting up your settlement!

Let's Chat . . .

What is the difference between family law and matrimonial law?
Where does someone start with setting up for settlement?
How does someone frame their case for settlement?

And don't miss the valuable tips on how to save time, money, and stress less during your divorce... Listen in!

Resources:

www.thugheslaw.com

tiffanyhughes@thugheslaw.com

If you have questions for us or a topic you’d like us to cover, contact us at hello@mydivorcesolution.com or visit MyDivorceSolution.com

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25. Don’t Overlook the Details in Your Divorce Agreement with Rosemarie Ferrante, Esq

Wed, 23 Dec 2020 13:00:00 -0000

In this episode of We Chat Divorce Podcast, Catherine and Karen have the privilege of chatting with Attorney Rosemarie Ferrante.

Rosemarie is an attorney licensed in New York and Connecticut, who focuses her practice on non-adversarial divorce through mediation and the collaborative divorce process.

Rosemarie believes one of the most important factors for couples who are contemplating divorce is to understand that there are many professionals who are available to assist them through the process. The professionals needed, are specific to your family.

REMEMBER: Somebody's mediation might not be the same as yours, and the professional best suited for you might be different based on your specific needs and the needs of your family.

Let’s Chat… Details In Your Divorce Agreement:

Divorce is NOT One Size Fits ALL
Make Sure Specific Financial Details are Spelled Out
Know the Financial Impact Before Signing
Utilize a Reviewing Attorney

Resources:

https://www.divorcemediationct.com/attorneys/rosemarie-ferrante/

If you have questions for us or a topic you’d like us to cover, contact us at hello@mydivorcesolution.com or visit MyDivorceSolution.com

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24. Family-Owned Businesses and Divorce with Elizabeth Billies, Esq

Wed, 25 Nov 2020 13:00:00 -0000

This month we welcome Elizabeth (Liz) Billies to The We Chat Divorce Podcast! Liz has been working as a divorce attorney in suburban Philadelphia at the firm of Dischell Bartle and Dooley, P.C. During this time, she’s represented hundreds of men and women going through separation and divorce. In doing so she has learned a few (maybe more than a few) things about relationships and the divorce process. In addition, to her family law practice, Ms. Billies also operates her blog, the Divorce Lawyer Life, where she provides her readers with practical tips to help them expertly navigate the divorce process to their best post-divorce life. In this episode, we're going to be discussing family-owned businesses and divorce. Let's Chat...

Generational family-owned businesses
Husband and wife owned businesses
What to look for (books & records)
What to listen for ( what is your spouse saying about the business)

and much more!

If you have questions for us or a topic you’d like us to cover, contact us at hello@mydivorcesolution.com or visit MyDivorceSolution.com

The We Chat Divorce podcast (hereinafter referred to as the “WCD”) represents the opinions of Catherine Shanahan, Karen Chellew and their guests to the show. WCD should not be considered professional or legal advice. The content here is for informational purposes only. Views and opinions expressed on WCD are our own and do not represent that of our places of work.

Unless specifically stated otherwise, Catherine Shanahan and Karen Chellew does not endorse, approve, recommend, or certify any information, product, process, service, or organization presented or mentioned on WCD, and information from this podcast should not be referenced in any way to imply such approval or endorsement. The third party materials or content of any third party site referenced on WCD do not necessarily reflect the opinions, standards or policies of Catherine Shanahan or Karen Chellew.

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23. Dating After Divorce with Jennifer Hurvitz

Wed, 28 Oct 2020 15:38:00 -0000

We Chat Divorce Podcast welcomes Jennifer Hurvitz!

Jennifer is known for her no-nonsense approach to all things relationships and is proud to say she's made quite the career out of pretty disastrous circumstances...her own divorce.

Jennifer is a Certified Divorce Specialist (CDS™), public speaker, best- selling author, and host of the Doing Divorce Right Podcast. Divorced since 2014, Jennifer lives in Charlotte with her two kick-ass teenage boys. Through her popular blog, The Truth Hurvitz, and weekly podcast, Jennifer helps people understand what a happy divorce can look like and how to dip their toes back into the dating world. She loves sharing her insight on how to stay in a successful marriage, too! Jen has also been featured on OprahMagazine.com, twice! And look out for her TEDx Talk in 2021!

In this episode, Karen and Catherine chat with Jennifer about…

Jennifer’s straightforward approach to Divorce Coaching, from establishing your divorce team, coparenting, dating, and setting goals!
Dating After Divorce and Your Non-Negotiables List
Lower Your Expectations and Just Have Fun!
Financial Red Flags

If you have questions for us or a topic you’d like us to cover, contact us at hello@mydivorcesolution.com or visit MyDivorceSolution.com

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22. Divorce Recovery with Wendy Sterling

Wed, 23 Sep 2020 13:20:00 -0000

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, we are thrilled to welcome Wendy Sterling.

Wendy is a Divorce Recovery Specialist, certified ThetaHealing Practitioner, podcaster, writer, author, and speaker who founded The Divorce Rehab™. Wendy helps divorced women recover from their divorce by finding their true identity and voice by ending their pity party, mourning the loss of their marriage, to create a new and better life they design. After her own unexpected divorce and finding the world of coaching, she realized she could combine her 20 years of experience in Corporate America as a leader with this new coaching methodology and make a profound impact in the world. She helps women see their divorce as a gift, it happens FOR them not TO them.

Let’s Chat -

Discovering Your Identity
Gain Self Esteem to Move Forward After Divorce
Celebrate Those “Little” Victories th
POWER in the PAUSE - Divorce Is Not an Emergency
Where Can You Find Resources?
Is Divorce Recovery Possible?

Wendy Sterling is hosting a fantastic LIVE EVENT with an all-star expert guest line up! The LIVE SHOW called Divorce & Narcissism: How to Communicate, Set Boundaries and Get What You NEED from a Narcissist airs Tuesday, September 29th!

Enjoy FREE ACCESS by clicking the link to register – https://www.wendysterling.net/divorce-and-narcissism-live

We will see you there!

*** if you would like access Wendy Sterling’s Beyond Divorce Online Summit , go ahead and email her at wendy@wendysterling.net

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21. The Stories We Tell Ourselves with Sheila Tucker, MA, LAMFT

Wed, 26 Aug 2020 15:06:00 -0000

In this episode of We Chat Divorce we are excited to welcome Sheila Tucker, MA, LAMFT.

Sheila is a licensed associate marriage and family therapist and founder of Heart Mind & Soul Counseling in Hilton Head Island, South Carolina. Sheila helps couples identify their unhelpful relationship patterns and create new ways of understanding themselves and one another. She also works with individuals who feel held down and held back by anxiety.

Sheila joins Catherine and Karen to talk about “the stories we tell ourselves” and offers a treasure house of information for couples that have gone through divorce, going through divorce, or thinking about divorce.

Let’s Chat -

Defining “the stories we tell ourselves” and what that entails
Co Parenting communication
Don’t be embarrassed! Amending your relationship with money
YOU do deserve to be HAPPY despite divorce
Change your story to Facts vs Fiction

If you have questions for us or a topic you’d like us to cover, contact us at hello@mydivorcesolution.com or visit MyDivorceSolution.com

Resources:

Instagram: @heartmindsoulcounseling

https://www.heart-mind-soul.com/about

sheila@heart-mind-soul.com (843) 592-3998

200 Main Street Hilton Head Island, SC 29926----more----

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20. Kate Anthony: Should You Stay or Should You Go?

Wed, 29 Jul 2020 14:47:00 -0000

In this episode of We Chat Divorce we welcome Kate Anthony!

Kate is the host of the critically acclaimed and New York Times recommended podcast The Divorce Survival Guide Podcast and the creator of the groundbreaking online coaching program, “Should I Stay or Should I Go?”, which helps women make the most difficult decision of their lives using coaching tools, relationship education, geeky neuroscience, community support, and deep self-work.

Let’s chat about…

Kate’s Online Coaching Program: Should you stay or should you go?
Unpacking the cultural influence on marriage
Fairytale expectations and Emotional Needs
Making EMOTIONAL and FINANCIAL decisions not just for ourselves, but for our children
Healing your resentment

We hope you enjoy listening to this month’s episode of We Chat Divorce.

If you have questions for us or a topic you’d like us to cover, contact us at hello@mydivorcesolution.com or visit MyDivorceSolution.com

Resources:

https://www.kateanthony.com/stay-or-go-group

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19. Taxes, Taxes, Taxes with Kelly Galardi

Fri, 29 May 2020 16:41:00 -0000

On this episode, we are honored to welcome Kelly Galardi. Kelly is a CPA that provides tax advisory services for small businesses and individuals. She specializes in working with clients who are separating or divorcing.

Let’s chat about… yes, TAXES.

There is a lot to deal with during a divorce. Add to the list more complicated paperwork during tax filing time…ugh!

Do I file separately or jointly while I am going through a divorce?
Benefits to filing as head of household.
Electronically Filing joint tax returns, without both spouses having signed off!? OH MY! What you will need is a 8879 form annually.
Where do I go to find the status of my stimulus payment? Imagine a couple who filed taxes jointly in 2018, and their refund was direct deposited into their joint bank account. But they divorced in 2019, and they no longer share the bank account…

We hope you enjoy listening to this month’s episode of We Chat Divorce.

If you have questions for us or a topic you’d like us to cover, contact us at hello@mydivorcesolution.com or visit MyDivorceSolution.com

Resources:

IRS Stimulus Check Tracker www.irs.gov/coronavirus/get-my-payment

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18. Our Happy Divorce and a few Covid Survival CoParenting Tips

Wed, 22 Apr 2020 19:09:00 -0000

In this episode, we are Frankly Speaking with the co-authors of Our Happy Divorce, Nikki and Ben.

Nikki knows how being supported by a strong, loving family can influence the way a person navigates life, love, marriage, and motherhood. Having grown up as a member of the iconic San Francisco 49ers football family, she was thrown into the limelight at a young age. The values her family instilled in her have helped shape who she is today, and she continues to live by them.coparents

Ben intimately understands the detriment divorce can cause in the lives of children. The example of his parents’ divorce instilled in him a deep commitment "to do" better by his own kids. Ben is an investor, board member, philanthropist, golfer, and sports enthusiast. But above all, he is a dedicated father and family man who understands the importance of putting his ego aside and his children first.

IT WAS NOT PERFECT ...

Nikki and Ben define their own personal story with us and discuss what happy looks like today. Inspired by their son, they developed ways to co-parent, step-parent with an emphasis on putting the children first. As they say, “If we can do it, anyone can do it”.

As Catherine says, "DIVORCE does not mess your kids up, it is how both parents BEHAVE before, during, and after divorce that can mess your children up."

There is a different way to get Divorced. Let’s talk about it…

Getting to the “Happy” … We chat about cleaning up the wreckage of the past and forgiveness.
How can we stop pointing the finger at our spouse and get honest with ourselves?
Do not fool yourself, your children know what is going on.
Open discussions about financial settlements and joint custody.
Using the Divorce Process to redefine what your life, your finances, and relationship will be like post-divorce.
Co-Parenting and Step-parenting survival tips during the pandemic.

Want to learn more about Our Happy Divorce? Visit their website at https://ourhappydivorce.com/

Whether you are thinking of divorce/separation, are in the midst of a divorce, or embarking on your new life after divorce, this episode has something to help you.

If you have questions for us or a topic you’d like us to cover, contact us at hello@mydivorcesolution.com or visit MyDivorceSolution.com

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17. Divorce and the Art of Repairing with Colleen Kowal, LPC

Wed, 12 Feb 2020 18:47:00 -0000

In this episode of the We Chat Divorce podcast, we welcome back Colleen Kowal, LPC of Hilton Head Island Counseling. Colleen is a relationship specialist who believes that what sits at the heart of most problems is a broken relationship. Her private practice specializes in relationship therapy, working with couples to save and end marriages in a way that doesn’t destroy the family’s children and brings insight. She joins us to talk about The Art of Repairing.

Repair? I’m getting divorced. There is nothing to repair...

There is an art to repairing what is broken, even after divorce with no intention of getting back together. What does require repair is the new post-divorce relationship, especially when the former spouses will be co-parenting.

When you get divorced it doesn’t mean the relationship is over. It is a new beginning. There will still be birthday parties, graduations, weddings, where the family unit will gather.
Sometimes a repair isn’t possible if either person isn’t capable or ready.
If only one parent is ready to repair, be the best example possible.
Consider what behavior you practiced in this relationship – not speaking up, not setting boundaries – that you can begin practicing in the post-divorce relationship and be aware of so that you don’t carry it into your next relationship.

Whether you are thinking of divorce, are in the midst of divorce, or are embarking on your new life after divorce, this episode has something to help you.

If you have questions for us or a topic you’d like us to cover, contact us at hello@mydivorcesolution.com

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16. Choosing Courage in Midlife with Sheree Clark

Fri, 03 May 2019 21:53:00 -0000

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, we’re joined by Midlife Courage Coach Sheree Clark. She shares about moments where she had to choose courage and how you can do it, too.

You’ll have another opportunity to learn from Sheree Clark and many other experts (including us!) through an online event called “It’s YOUR Time: Turning the Midlife Crisis into Your Midlife awakening.” Sheree is interviewing all sorts of healthy living experts throughout the month of May. To access this free resource, click here. Our episode airs May 21st. To learn more, visit www.midlife-newlife.com.

Have questions or a topic you’d like us to cover in future episodes? Contact us at hello@mydivorcesolution.com

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15. Divorce and Owning Your Own Destiny with Attorney Jessica VanderKam

Fri, 12 Apr 2019 21:31:00 -0000

In this episode of We Chat Divorce, we’re joined by attorney Jessica VanderKam to discuss the importance of being proactive in the divorce process and owning your own destiny. Jessica VanderKam is a partner with the firm Stuckert & Yates, which is based in Newtown, Pennsylvania. She is also a judicial candidate in Bucks County, Pennsylvania.

Our court system is overburdened. But you can make the most of your time in the courtroom by being as prepared as possible and by managing expectations. Knowledge and a plan will go a long way in helping you own your divorce destiny. That’s also where we come in. Have questions or a topic you’d like us to cover? Contact us at hello@mydivorcesolution.com

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14. The My Divorce Solution Client Experience: Eileen

Tue, 26 Mar 2019 20:20:00 -0000

What is it like to work with us?

In this episode of the We Chat Divorce podcast, one of our clients, Eileen, joins us to describe her experience. She has gone through all three phases of our proprietary program and is now enjoying a life of clarity and confidence.

If you have questions for us or a topic you’d like us to cover, contact us at hello@mydivorcesolution.com

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13. Chatting about Support - Alimony, Spousal Support and Child Support: A Conversation with Attorney Charissa Liller

Wed, 27 Feb 2019 19:22:00 -0000

In this episode of the We Chat Divorce podcast, we’re joined by Charissa Liller, an attorney based in Doylestown, Pennsylvania practicing Family Law with the firm Curtin & Heefner. She began her career as a prosecutor and has been practicing law in Bucks County for over 20 years, with over 15 of those years focused on Family Law. Charissa is also running for Judge in Bucks County. She is seeking to bring experience, empathy, and consistency -- qualities she brings to her family law practice – to the bench in support of families experiencing divorce.

Today she joins us for a conversation about guidelines and best practices related to Spousal Support, APL (Alimony Pendente Lite), and Child Support. Highlights include:

Support: an Overview

You do not have to be married to file for child support, as long as parents are living in separate households. If the parents are living within the same household, the court requires proof of a need to distinguish financial separation (bills aren’t being paid, utilities being turned off, groceries, certain expenses for the child)
If you are married, you can file for spousal support as long as you’re residing in physically separate residences.
Once you have filed for divorce, spousal support is then called APL.

Spousal Support vs. APL

APL is only when a divorce complaint is filed
With spousal support there’s an entitlement defense; the payor can claim claimant spouse is cheating, but the court requires proof. The remedy is to file a divorce claim, then you can file for APL.

Child Support Orders – What to Know

Extracurricular activities are not addressed in support orders. You can add provisions to the child support order providing both parental parties are agreeable to doing so and to the terms.
Medical expenses are always addressed. However, psychological and psychiatric expenses are not included with medical, so that language must be included as a provision in the order to ensure that expense is covered as a medical expense.
Support orders are always modifiable.

Final Tips:

Work with a CDFA to be clear on what your financial picture is and what it will be.
Don’t file support modifications on your own. Always consult with an attorney. You don’t know what you don’t know is key in divorce.

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12. My Divorce Resolution

Mon, 07 Jan 2019 22:25:00 -0000

It makes us sad to think of the people who are unhappily married, especially during the holidays. When you are unhappy, you behave in a way that doesn’t allow you to live your best life. You live just waiting for each day to end so a new one can begin. You tend to overlook all the beauty in the world and all the possibilities for a joyous life. You live with envy of others and the life you thought you were supposed to have instead of living with purpose and aspirations of attaining your dreams. We know this firsthand because we felt all of those emotions and more while we were going through our divorces. We also know it doesn’t have to be this way.

We also want to caution you to not simply jump into divorce because it’s at the top of your New Year’s Resolutions (right next to the Polar Bear Plunge). Consider these ten insights before taking the plunge toward divorce:

It matters where you start. Know your options.

Divorce does not define you.
Believe in yourself because you are enough, and you deserve to be happy.
Bullying is never acceptable, not even in divorce.
Divorce does not mess up your kids, it’s how both parents behave before, during, and after divorce that can mess up your kids!
When negotiating your divorce, know that there is a difference between what is fair and what is equitable.
You are stronger than you think.
Don’t feel guilty for wanting to be happy.
Knowledge in divorce is everything.
You will be OK!

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11. Holidays, Divorce, and Hope

Mon, 10 Dec 2018 22:16:00 -0000

Is this your first holiday after your divorce? Getting through all the "firsts" is a challenge. In episode 11 of the We Chat Divorce podcast, Catherine and Karen share their experiences with their first holidays during and after divorce. The emotions, the awkward situations and, ultimately, how they embraced all the opportunity that came with this change.

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10. Real Solutions with Real Estate

Mon, 08 Oct 2018 19:30:00 -0000

In Episode #10 – Real Solutions with Real Estate, we talk about the realities of making decisions about real estate during divorce. Whether it’s a shared asset you’d prefer to sell or deciding whether to stay in the family home, this episode has solutions. We’re happy to be joined by Hilton Head Island-based realtor, Karen Ryan. You may view the original We Chat Divorce broadcast here.

The Unwanted Asset

Catherine shares about a recent experience where we were able to work together with another professional to provide a creative solution to end a client’s ongoing stress. In this case it was with our guest for this episode, realtor Karen Ryan:

“We had a client who was getting nowhere with her divorce. She was two years into the process, and they were stumped on this rental property that they owned ‘down on a beach somewhere,’ as she explained it to me. She did not want this rental property. She was the bread winner of the family. Her husband wanted this property. But there was really no way out, the attorneys did not know what to do about it. They were going back and forth, but he clearly could not afford it. She had some emotional issues with having it because of things that went wrong in their marriage. So, I said to her, ‘Where is this rental property?’ She said, ‘Hilton Head, South Carolina.’ And I said, ‘As a matter of fact, I’m going there; I know a realtor, I’m going to talk with her, see if she’ll take me there. And then I can evaluate it financially, see if it would be worth while keeping, and maybe we can financially be creative and come up with a solution finally end your divorce.’

That’s when I called today’s guest, Karen Ryan, and told her the situation. She took me through the property, went through everything, and said, ‘We manage properties, so the stress would not have to be on the client.’ We went through the numbers and she gave me a spreadsheet of possible rental income on this property. I went back to Pennsylvania, met with the wife, we went through the numbers, and our client actually started to cry. She said, ‘I can’t believe you have a solution for me. I can’t believe these two years can come to an end, because this could work.’ And I said, ‘Yes, it could. Go back to your attorney and here’s what you should tell them.’ She did. They got divorced. To this day, she’s still renting that property and she’s very happy about it.”

So, know that there are ways to think creatively about a financial situation, to take the emotion out of why you think do not want an asset, when the asset can be positive for you financially.

It’s so hard to make decisions in the divorce process at any moment, because you’re just so driven by your emotions and everything’s so new and unknown. That’s why we say we’re going to start with knowns and we’re going to keep going from there.

The Devil’s in the Deed Details

Another thing to consider is making sure everything is correct on the property deed. Even though it seems like a simple transaction, if it gets messed up it can be a reason for litigation later. So, any time you’re wrapping up things after divorce, and you’re ending up with property, make sure you get that deed reviewed by a real estate attorney.

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9. Complex Divorce

Wed, 18 Jul 2018 17:00:00 -0000

Divorce is complex. That’s the reality. The good news is, with sound counsel from your professional team, you can still navigate the process with clarity and confidence. In Episode #9 – Complex Divorce, we go behind the scenes with a recent client, answer a question from our audience and learn how to proceed in a complex divorce with our guest, attorney Mary Fran Quindlen of Beaufort, South Carolina-based Quindlen Law Firm, P.A.. You may view the original We Chat Divorce broadcast here.

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8. Walking is for Wimps with Cecilia Halseth

Fri, 20 Apr 2018 21:32:00 -0000

This is the audio from our March 2018 episode of We Chat Divorce, which aired in March 2018. You can watch the episode here.

In today’s episode, we’re joined by Cecilia Halseth, author of Walking is for Wimps. We had a great time discussing how to start, and keep, a healthy routine throughout a stressful time.

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7. Talk it Out - Family Therapy with Colleen Kowal

Tue, 20 Mar 2018 22:44:00 -0000

This episode of the We Chat Divorce Podcast also serves as the debut of our new television program airing on WHHI-TV in Hilton Head, South Carolina. What you’ll hear is the audio from the episode, which you can watch here.

In today’s episode, we introduce ourselves to our Hilton Head audience and share our divorce stories. We’re also joined by Colleen Kowal, of Hilton Head Island Counseling. Colleen is a Licensed Professional Counselor with the State of South Carolina and a certified Imago Relationship Therapist.

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6. Managing Divorce and Children with Special Needs

Fri, 12 Jan 2018 17:30:00 -0000

With many people divorcing later in life, establishing arrangements for elder care has become increasingly important. But what about situations where divorcing couples have special needs children?

Our guest, Linda Anderson, a certified elder law attorney, will help us understand how to navigate these issues. Linda is one of approximately 50 certified elder law attorneys in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania. Her practice, Anderson Elder Law, specializes in the legal issues affecting elders, the disabled, and their families. We are thrilled to have her as a guest for this podcast to help us share the information necessary for families with special needs children who are divorcing to do so with clarity and confidence.

The statistics are not clear on whether the risk of divorce increases in families with special needs children. One report states the while the average divorce rate is 50%, the divorce rate for couples with special needs children is 85%.

The most common struggle for these couples facing divorce is how to meet the requirements of their special needs children, now and in the future.

Your Team of Experts

You are likely working with your family attorney as you begin divorce proceedings. You want to ensure that the family law attorney is bringing in a special needs attorney, who has the expertise as it relates to special needs planning and the role of public benefits, and a financial planner, to ensure the structuring of the estate plan for the child is established to determine the rest of the financial settlements.

There is an overlap between understanding the public benefits for both seniors and special needs children and the uses of trusts in both cases. It is a body of knowledge that applies not just to people over a certain age but anyone of any age struggling to maintain control of their medical, legal, and financial issues. When caring for the welfare of special needs children – in a divorce situation or not – there must be an understanding of the public entitlements and benefits.

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5. The B Word

Thu, 26 Oct 2017 18:33:00 -0000

In this episode, we talk about the “B Word.” BUDGET. Mention the word “budget” and reactions can vary from wide-eyed to confusion to sheer panic, but rarely do you receive a positive reaction. Mention the words, "lifestyle analysis,” and the responding look can be very similar. However, when going through the process of divorce, these two concepts are critical components before, during, and after divorce.

How many of us even think of our lives as “lifestyles?” When dating the person who became your spouse, it might have been the difference in lifestyle that was part of the attraction. Here’s this person that you really like and they’re bringing something new into your world. You get married, and now you’re faced with aligning your lifestyles, creating a new shared lifestyle together. Sometimes, your lifestyles are too incompatible for the long run, and you head for divorce.

Lifestyle is an important aspect to consider, especially when we have to make shifts in our budget.

Lifestyle Analysis vs. Budget

What is a “lifestyle analysis” and how does it relate to a budget? Your lifestyle is the way you’ve become accustomed to living. Do you dine out a lot? How large is your marital home? What car do you drive and what are its maintenance costs? Do you take family vacations, attend events, have a cleaning service? When going through a divorce, one of the first questions you’ll need to answer is what is your financial need regarding support, what is the lifestyle you’re accustomed to living, and how will those two factors work together.

Your budget is made up of the items and expenses you need to maintain a household. What are your expenses? What is the income you need for your cash flow? What are the “extras” that come up? Budget is a critical component before, during, and after divorce because the court system, your mediator, or anyone assisting you through the process will use your budget as a guide for what your needs truly are. Other factors -- if you're a business owner or receive bonuses from your employer -- aren't as apparent as a paycheck, so the ability to recreate your expense list and know your lifestyle is really important. It'll help them make sure you have what you need moving forward.

Know also that if you lived on a shoestring budget during your marriage, that shoestring is going to get a little thinner, especially during the divorce process. Prepare your budget based on a household income of one, especially until your support is decided and starts coming in. Even after all of this, if you can’t meet your budget, maybe you can negotiate a raise with your employer or arrange a loan from a family member to tide you over.

There’s no question; your money mindset has to change in divorce.

Put It on Paper

Committing your budget to paper will help you think through the process, and you’ll have it to keep you accountable. Laying it out like this will help you know exactly what you need, helping you know how to adjust, even helping you decide what type of job to get. Some of the categories you’ll encounter as you prepare your financials for divorce are:

Food Expense: groceries, toiletries, cleaning supplies, and casual dining out.
Auto Expense: car payment, gasoline, maintenance
Clothing Expense: shoes, clothing purchases that are necessities, repairs/alterations, and related items
Laundry Expense: cost of laundry service, dry cleaning
School Expense: tuition, supplies, field trips, lunch money, dues, tutors, locker rentals, arts & crafts supplies
Entertainment Expense: fine dining, sporting events, concerts, movies, theater, vacations
Incidental Expenses: cosmetics, hair and nail appointments, books, magazines, business dues, memberships, pets, donations, gifts, hobbies, and other outstanding payments
Home Appliance Expenses
Savings Accounts (ideal goal is to save 10% of your annual income)
College Tuition Savings

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4. Being Present with Yourself and Others

Fri, 01 Sep 2017 21:21:00 -0000

As we begin episode four of the We Chat Divorce podcast, please remember that divorce does not define you. Yes, it’s part of our stories and it may be a part of your story, but that’s okay. We’re here to share our insight and inspiration, addressing the good stuff and the bad stuff (aka the BS) and hope this podcast will help you move forward in a positive direction.

Being Present with Each Other

Do you find yourself having a hard time focusing? Does the activity in your life, not to mention in your divorce, have you feeling overwhelmed? It’s a problem we all encounter, especially in our world of instant gratification but disconnecting, especially from social media, is important.

Whether you’re a stay-at-home parent, managing the household or you’re working full time, the most important thing you can do for each other – and your marriage - is be present. It’s deeper than putting the cell phones down.

Make it a point to have a transition time from work to home and then carve out some time to sit with each other and acknowledge you want to be in each other’s presence. Being married and being a parent is about relationships and if you can’t figure out the relationships, you’re going to have a lot of dysfunction going on. Being present and listening, making that person feel heard and affirmed is so critical to healthy relationships. We all need to slow down, listen more, and be in the moment.

Being Present in the Divorce Process

Being present throughout the divorce process is a critical skill to develop. You have a lot coming at you all at once – where to live, will the kids be okay, will you have enough money, will you have enough energy to get up and go to work each day, and on and on. Actively being present is a skill that will get you through each step. It may be helpful to start journaling, even if that means you write down each step and focus on them one at a time.

This is also true with mediation. If you’re going through divorce as two individuals, each with your own attorney communicating with each other on your behalf, you’re not even in the conversation in the moment. With mediation or a negotiated settlement, you remain present and in the moment about the decisions being made. Literally. You’re there in the room together and you’re able to hear you’re your soon-to-be-ex wants a certain asset or more time with your kids. This process allows you to communicate with each other and, above all else, be heard. It changes how you get divorced for the better.

Today’s Takeaways

Use the “24-Hour Panic” Rule: Give yourself time to not think about the issue. Write it down if it helps you. Put it on a to do list. When you come back to it 24 hours later, your perspective may be completely different.
Stop, Drop, and Let Go: Maybe you’re not wired to let something go for 24 hours. Try 10 minutes. Remember the fire prevention phrase, “Stop, drop, and roll?” Tell yourself, “Stop, drop, and let go.” If you feel overwhelmed or you’re not feeling heard, give it that time, that silence. The feeling may go away or you may master it.

Being present helps to set boundaries for yourself and others. It helps to quiet the noise in your head so you can tune into what others are saying. It helps you to focus on one thing at a time.

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3. Me, My Ex, and Her: The Reality of Co-parenting

Sun, 06 Aug 2017 00:04:00 -0000

In episode three, we continue our real talk about the world of divorce with a conversation about the realities of co-parenting. Is anyone really ready for that? Co-parenting is always a challenge, for sure, but this podcast will give you practical tools to get through it with your sanity and current marriage intact.

Celebrities, They're Just Like Us! With all of the money and resources available to celebrities, it’s easy to presume they sail through co-parenting or relating to an ex’s new significant other. At the end of the day, though, we’re all human and need to think of our children above everything else.

Jennifer Garner and Ben Affleck are one example. Jennifer recently took their children on vacation and Ben went along. They stayed in two connecting suites of the same size, so their kids could spend time with both parents. They made it work for them and their children.

Ryan Phillipe, who was married to Reese Witherspoon, has said that “You have to get to that point as a divorced parent, as any parent, where you’re not putting yourself first.”

Taye Diggs, who is co-parenting his son with singer and actress Idina Menzel, acknowledges this: “When you have a kid in the mix of it there’s no time for negativity.”

No matter who you are, put your children first. We get married for a reason, we get divorced for a reason, but there’s never a reason to put your kids in the middle of it.

Keeping It Real Co-parenting is complicated by so many things, the emotional residue of the divorce, new significant others or spouses on the scene, and the world of step-parenthood.

How can you navigate these relationships, stay focused on the well-being of your children, and stay sane? Know when to pick your battles. Here are a few ways we recommend to keep the peace, and your cool:

Drop the Rope Often, you’ll find yourself in an argument with your ex. It could be a timing issue, or whether your children left things at the other’s home, or any number of issues. Instead of participating in this tug of war, simply drop the rope. You’ll feel more mentally free and present for your priority, your children.

That’s interesting. This tactic is especially good to use with narcissists. When someone is battling head-to-head, and no matter what you say, you will never be “right” in his or her eyes? Just say “That’s interesting,” and leave it at that. It’s not worth the stress it will cause you or your children.

24 Hour Panic Rule Things happen. The threat of court, an ex is late picking up your children. Whatever it is, give yourself 24 hours to not even think about it. Give yourself time to breathe. Often, whatever it is will resolve itself, or you’ll have a fresh perspective.

How do you know these tactics are working? React to the reactions of your children. If your child is happy and doing fine, that’s what it’s all about. Talk about it together so your child can feel secure.

When It’s All Said and Done It’s hard to co-parent through a divorce. Stay engaged, try to better yourself. Be there for the kids, and you’ll all grow and develop together.

Give Us Your Feedback The hardest part for us is not hearing your voices. Please give us your feedback, your comments, your questions. Let us know in the comments section below this recording.

And remember we know divorce is never easy, and your life may be changing. Change can be good! We want you to know – you are not alone, and you will be ok. We’ll talk to you soon. We chat because you matter.

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2. The First Year After Divorce

Thu, 22 Jun 2017 23:48:00 -0000

In this episode, we continue the conversation about real people and real situations in the world of divorce. Every person has their own unique story. We’re here to discuss the human element of divorce from a variety of perspectives – from personal anecdotes to divorce in the entertainment world.

Divorce in the Entertainment World

Celebrities can seem like they have it all, but beneath the glamour they’re people, too, with the same feelings and the same problems in divorce. Drew Barrymore has been divorced for a year now. In her 40s with two small children, “When you break up with somebody you’re like, ‘Yeah, that didn’t work,’ but when you get divorced you’re like I’m the biggest failure. This is the biggest failure. I’m so shameful and it’s so hard to actually go through that, even privately.” This feeling of guilt and failure is common in divorce, but isn't who you are.

Divorce in the Real World

A new client came to see us nine months after her divorce. We worked with her, reviewing her documents and creating a timeline, determining that what was happening post-divorce wasn’t supposed to happen to her. The system wasn’t providing what was financially owed to her and what was agreed upon. We helped her go from barely making ends meet to securing the reimbursements and the level of support she was entitled to.

Real Divorce: The Human Element

In our article that appeared recently on the DivorcedMoms.com website -- The First Year of Divorce: 10 Truths No One Tells You But Should – we talk about a lot of the feelings we ourselves went through in our personal divorce experiences, are we messing up our kids, do we miss our exes, etc. We also discovered an article on LinkedIn from the men’s perspective -- How Do Men Really Cope After Divorce? – which covers that men don’t fully realize how their lifestyles are changing until some time passes, that they miss all the activity of home life with their kids.

We’re basically the same – we have a sense of loss and we care about our kids. If divorced couples focus on that throughout that first year, on respecting each other and taking things one step at a time, it’ll make things better in the long run.

As we like to say, “Divorce does not mess your kids up. It’s how both parents behave before, during, and after divorce that can mess your kids up.”

Thanks for joining our community. We’d love to hear from you and love to hear positive steps you are taking for yourself every day. Let us know via our website, on our Facebook page or our Instagram account.

Divorce is never easy, and although your life may be changing. Change can be good! We want you to know – you are not alone and you will be ok. We’ll talk to you soon.

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1. What We Wish We Knew

Thu, 22 Jun 2017 20:54:00 -0000

The We Chat Divorce Podcast brings you conversations about real people, real situations and real divorce. We’re Karen Chellew, paralegal and business manager, and Catherine Shanahan, CDFA (Certified Divorce Financial Analyst). We’re co-founders of Divorce U Solutions, where we work with clients to navigate the often complex and confusing process of divorce. We’re here to share our personal and professional experiences to demystify the big business of divorce. This podcast is time for you to gain clarity and even have a laugh or two.

First up, what we wish we had known as we went through our divorces.

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