Untangled en The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. A Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why. https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/27a7d1d0-aa92-11f0-88ba-9771b2cb2d7d/image/80b86ef5e2f43b99ca600b3f429d522f.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress Untangled episodic Channel 4 Channel 4 The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. A Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why. The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. A Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why.

]]> Channel 4 channel4social@channel4.co.uk Can a Government Actually Ban Social Media for Kids? Australia vs Big Tech | Untangled In this week’s episode, Ben and Stacey untangle the news of Australia’s social media ban for under-16s. Under the new law, all under-16s will be removed from social media, with existing accounts shut down and new accounts unable to be created. According to polls, the majority of Australian adults support the ban, but with experts divided, tech companies up in arms, what do the young people in the country really think? Will the ban prove to be a positive move, or are Australian teens unfairly missing out? 00:00 Intro 02:08 Australia’s social media ban 29:26 Pantone’s colour of the year 32:51 FIFA gives Trump a peace prize 35:01 Outro The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. Untangled - a Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why. Subscribe here to Untangled on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@channel4untangled Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 10 Dec 2025 00:30:00 -0000 full Channel 4 In this week’s episode, Ben and Stacey untangle the news of Australia’s social media ban for under-16s. Under the new law, all under-16s will be removed from social media, with existing accounts shut down and new accounts unable to be created. According to polls, the majority of Australian adults support the ban, but with experts divided, tech companies up in arms, what do the young people in the country really think? Will the ban prove to be a positive move, or are Australian teens unfairly missing out? 00:00 Intro 02:08 Australia’s social media ban 29:26 Pantone’s colour of the year 32:51 FIFA gives Trump a peace prize 35:01 Outro The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. Untangled - a Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why. Subscribe here to Untangled on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@channel4untangled Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this week’s episode, Ben and Stacey untangle the news of Australia’s social media ban for under-16s. Under the new law, all under-16s will be removed from social media, with existing accounts shut down and new accounts unable to be created. According to polls, the majority of Australian adults support the ban, but with experts divided, tech companies up in arms, what do the young people in the country really think? Will the ban prove to be a positive move, or are Australian teens unfairly missing out?


00:00 Intro


02:08 Australia’s social media ban


29:26 Pantone’s colour of the year


32:51 FIFA gives Trump a peace prize


35:01 Outro


The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. Untangled - a Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why. Subscribe here to Untangled on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@channel4untangled


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]]> 2308 Are We Really Having An Intimacy Recession? | Untangled In this week’s episode, Ben and Stacey untangle the issues being faced by a generation that is struggling to form meaningful emotional and romantic connections. Why are so many people giving up on dating and finding love? Is it dating apps? The changing gender roles? Or are people all just too individualistic now? Ben and Stacey discuss that it isn’t just a case of young people having less sex and being in fewer romantic relationships, there is a possibility that we are in the middle of a global “intimacy recession.” 0:00 Intro 01:12 Ben & Stacey on this week 04:30 The Intimacy Recession 48:16 Outro The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. Untangled - a Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 03 Dec 2025 00:01:00 -0000 full Channel 4 In this week’s episode, Ben and Stacey untangle the issues being faced by a generation that is struggling to form meaningful emotional and romantic connections. Why are so many people giving up on dating and finding love? Is it dating apps? The changing gender roles? Or are people all just too individualistic now? Ben and Stacey discuss that it isn’t just a case of young people having less sex and being in fewer romantic relationships, there is a possibility that we are in the middle of a global “intimacy recession.” 0:00 Intro 01:12 Ben & Stacey on this week 04:30 The Intimacy Recession 48:16 Outro The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. Untangled - a Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this week’s episode, Ben and Stacey untangle the issues being faced by a generation that is struggling to form meaningful emotional and romantic connections.

Why are so many people giving up on dating and finding love? Is it dating apps? The changing gender roles? Or are people all just too individualistic now? Ben and Stacey discuss that it isn’t just a case of young people having less sex and being in fewer romantic relationships, there is a possibility that we are in the middle of a global “intimacy recession.”


0:00 Intro


01:12 Ben & Stacey on this week


04:30 The Intimacy Recession


48:16 Outro


The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. Untangled - a Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life.



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]]> 3140 The Battle For The Future Of MAGA & How Will The UK Budget Affect Young People? | Untangled In this week’s episode, Ben and Stacey untangle the potential future of the Republican party’s MAGA movement. Given that Trump is currently unable to serve a third term and others challenging him for leadership, who will lead the movement next and will they be able to compete with Trump? They then untangle the latest moves on to Rachel Reeves unveiling the UK government’s latest Autumn budget. With people already struggling with the cost of living crisis, has the budget sufficiently tackled issues directly affecting young people, such as rising tuition fees, rent, and housing prices? 00:00 Intro 00:59 Ben & Stacey on this week 02:18 The Battle for the future of MAGA 25:13 The UK’s Cost of Living crisis 29:44 Outro The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. Untangled - a Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 26 Nov 2025 01:55:00 -0000 full Channel 4 In this week’s episode, Ben and Stacey untangle the potential future of the Republican party’s MAGA movement. Given that Trump is currently unable to serve a third term and others challenging him for leadership, who will lead the movement next and will they be able to compete with Trump? They then untangle the latest moves on to Rachel Reeves unveiling the UK government’s latest Autumn budget. With people already struggling with the cost of living crisis, has the budget sufficiently tackled issues directly affecting young people, such as rising tuition fees, rent, and housing prices? 00:00 Intro 00:59 Ben & Stacey on this week 02:18 The Battle for the future of MAGA 25:13 The UK’s Cost of Living crisis 29:44 Outro The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. Untangled - a Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this week’s episode, Ben and Stacey untangle the potential future of the Republican party’s MAGA movement. Given that Trump is currently unable to serve a third term and others challenging him for leadership, who will lead the movement next and will they be able to compete with Trump? They then untangle the latest moves on to Rachel Reeves unveiling the UK government’s latest Autumn budget. With people already struggling with the cost of living crisis, has the budget sufficiently tackled issues directly affecting young people, such as rising tuition fees, rent, and housing prices?


00:00 Intro


00:59 Ben & Stacey on this week


02:18 The Battle for the future of MAGA


25:13 The UK’s Cost of Living crisis


29:44 Outro


The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. Untangled - a Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why.


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]]> 1985 The Truth About UK’s Migration Changes & YouTuber’s £100M Boxing Showdown Vs Anthony Joshua | Untangled In this week’s episode, Ben and Stacey untangle Labour’s proposed changes to the UK’s asylum and immigration policy, announced this week by Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood. What are they, why does the government feel they are needed and will they change anything? Then for a reported £100million, YouTuber Jake Paul will take on former boxing champion Anthony Joshua in a match streamed on Netflix – what does this signify for the sport and the culture at large? 00:00 Intro 01:15 Ben & Stacey on this week 02:36 Shabana Mahmood’s radical asylum policy reforms 28:12 Jake Paul to box Anthony Joshua for £100million 41:21 Outro The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. Untangled - a Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 19 Nov 2025 03:45:00 -0000 full Channel 4 In this week’s episode, Ben and Stacey untangle Labour’s proposed changes to the UK’s asylum and immigration policy, announced this week by Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood. What are they, why does the government feel they are needed and will they change anything? Then for a reported £100million, YouTuber Jake Paul will take on former boxing champion Anthony Joshua in a match streamed on Netflix – what does this signify for the sport and the culture at large? 00:00 Intro 01:15 Ben & Stacey on this week 02:36 Shabana Mahmood’s radical asylum policy reforms 28:12 Jake Paul to box Anthony Joshua for £100million 41:21 Outro The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. Untangled - a Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this week’s episode, Ben and Stacey untangle Labour’s proposed changes to the UK’s asylum and immigration policy, announced this week by Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood. What are they, why does the government feel they are needed and will they change anything? Then for a reported £100million, YouTuber Jake Paul will take on former boxing champion Anthony Joshua in a match streamed on Netflix – what does this signify for the sport and the culture at large?


00:00 Intro


01:15 Ben & Stacey on this week


02:36 Shabana Mahmood’s radical asylum policy reforms


28:12 Jake Paul to box Anthony Joshua for £100million


41:21 Outro


The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. Untangled - a Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why.



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]]> 2688 What Next For The BBC After Trump Scandal? & New York Mayor’s Win’s Impact On Politics | Untangled In this week’s episode, Ben and Stacey untangle Trump’s plans to sue the BBC. Are we facing a crisis of public trust in BBC news and what does this mean for the future of the broadcaster? Then, they untangle what Zohran Mamdani’s victory in the New York mayoral elections means for politics on both sides of the Atlantic. 00:00 Intro 02:00 Ben & Stacey on this week 03:43 Donald Trump threatens the BBC with legal action 22:52 Zohran Mamdani elected as NYC Mayor 32:25 The Celebrity Traitors & Elon Musk’s $1trillion 37:37 Outro The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. Untangled - a Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 12 Nov 2025 02:30:00 -0000 full Channel 4 In this week’s episode, Ben and Stacey untangle Trump’s plans to sue the BBC. Are we facing a crisis of public trust in BBC news and what does this mean for the future of the broadcaster? Then, they untangle what Zohran Mamdani’s victory in the New York mayoral elections means for politics on both sides of the Atlantic. 00:00 Intro 02:00 Ben & Stacey on this week 03:43 Donald Trump threatens the BBC with legal action 22:52 Zohran Mamdani elected as NYC Mayor 32:25 The Celebrity Traitors & Elon Musk’s $1trillion 37:37 Outro The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. Untangled - a Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this week’s episode, Ben and Stacey untangle Trump’s plans to sue the BBC. Are we facing a crisis of public trust in BBC news and what does this mean for the future of the broadcaster? Then, they untangle what Zohran Mamdani’s victory in the New York mayoral elections means for politics on both sides of the Atlantic.

00:00 Intro


02:00 Ben & Stacey on this week


03:43 Donald Trump threatens the BBC with legal action


22:52 Zohran Mamdani elected as NYC Mayor


32:25 The Celebrity Traitors & Elon Musk’s $1trillion


37:37 Outro


The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. Untangled - a Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why.


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]]> 2481 Does The UK Have A Knife Crime Epidemic? & Andrew’s Impact On The Future Of The Monarchy | Untangled In this week’s episode, Stacey and Ben untangle the mass stabbing attacks on the Cambridgeshire train over the weekend and look at the wider facts on knife crime in Britain. Do we live in a culture of fear and what roles do the media and social media play? Then, as Andrew has his royal titles officially stripped, Stacey and Ben look at what the public really think about the monarchy and ask what the future holds for the royals in Britain. 00:00 Intro 02:00 Cambridgeshire train attack and UK knife crime 12:03 Prince Andrew loses his royal titles 23:30 Outro The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. Untangled - a Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 05 Nov 2025 03:00:00 -0000 full Channel 4 In this week’s episode, Stacey and Ben untangle the mass stabbing attacks on the Cambridgeshire train over the weekend and look at the wider facts on knife crime in Britain. Do we live in a culture of fear and what roles do the media and social media play? Then, as Andrew has his royal titles officially stripped, Stacey and Ben look at what the public really think about the monarchy and ask what the future holds for the royals in Britain. 00:00 Intro 02:00 Cambridgeshire train attack and UK knife crime 12:03 Prince Andrew loses his royal titles 23:30 Outro The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. Untangled - a Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this week’s episode, Stacey and Ben untangle the mass stabbing attacks on the Cambridgeshire train over the weekend and look at the wider facts on knife crime in Britain. Do we live in a culture of fear and what roles do the media and social media play? Then, as Andrew has his royal titles officially stripped, Stacey and Ben look at what the public really think about the monarchy and ask what the future holds for the royals in Britain.



00:00 Intro

02:00 Cambridgeshire train attack and UK knife crime

12:03 Prince Andrew loses his royal titles

23:30 Outro


The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. Untangled - a Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why.



Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 1671 Stacey Dooley & Ben Zand On Asylum Hotel Profits and Louis Theroux’s Platforming Debate | Untangled On the agenda this week, Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand discuss the billions being made from asylum hotels in Britain - and what really happened with Hadush Kebatu, the Epping migrant accidentally released from prison.  They also untangle the recent Louis Theroux backlash, whose podcast has had its sponsorship pulled from British Airways after featuring controversial artist Bob Vylan. 00:00 Intro 02:14 Ben and Stacey on this week 05:25 The people getting rich off asylum seeker hotels 17:22 Migrant sex offender mistakenly let loose 26:25 Bob Vylan interview causes BA backlash 37:04 Outro The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. Untangled - a Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 29 Oct 2025 11:00:00 -0000 full Channel 4 On the agenda this week, Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand discuss the billions being made from asylum hotels in Britain - and what really happened with Hadush Kebatu, the Epping migrant accidentally released from prison.  They also untangle the recent Louis Theroux backlash, whose podcast has had its sponsorship pulled from British Airways after featuring controversial artist Bob Vylan. 00:00 Intro 02:14 Ben and Stacey on this week 05:25 The people getting rich off asylum seeker hotels 17:22 Migrant sex offender mistakenly let loose 26:25 Bob Vylan interview causes BA backlash 37:04 Outro The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. Untangled - a Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices On the agenda this week, Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand discuss the billions being made from asylum hotels in Britain - and what really happened with Hadush Kebatu, the Epping migrant accidentally released from prison. 

They also untangle the recent Louis Theroux backlash, whose podcast has had its sponsorship pulled from British Airways after featuring controversial artist Bob Vylan.


00:00 Intro

02:14 Ben and Stacey on this week

05:25 The people getting rich off asylum seeker hotels

17:22 Migrant sex offender mistakenly let loose

26:25 Bob Vylan interview causes BA backlash

37:04 Outro


The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. Untangled - a Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why.



Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

]]> 2441 Stacey Dooley & Ben Zand Discuss Prince Andrew’s Rent, AI and Israeli Football Team Ban | Untangled In this episode, Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand untangle this week’s news. On the agenda, Prince Andrew's lavish rent-free lifestyle, question AI’s role in the loneliness pandemic, and discuss the controversial decision behind a ‘fan ban’ on supporters of Maccabi Tel Aviv FC. The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. A Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why. 00:00 Intro 01:02 Ben and Stacey 03:40 Prince Andrew gives up royal titles and the rent saga 16:12 Chat GPT, erotica and relationships 32:32 Maccabi Tel Aviv FC fans banned from Aston Villa 40:07 Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Wed, 22 Oct 2025 05:45:00 -0000 full Channel 4 In this episode, Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand untangle this week’s news. On the agenda, Prince Andrew's lavish rent-free lifestyle, question AI’s role in the loneliness pandemic, and discuss the controversial decision behind a ‘fan ban’ on supporters of Maccabi Tel Aviv FC. The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. A Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why. 00:00 Intro 01:02 Ben and Stacey 03:40 Prince Andrew gives up royal titles and the rent saga 16:12 Chat GPT, erotica and relationships 32:32 Maccabi Tel Aviv FC fans banned from Aston Villa 40:07 Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices In this episode, Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand untangle this week’s news. On the agenda, Prince Andrew's lavish rent-free lifestyle, question AI’s role in the loneliness pandemic, and discuss the controversial decision behind a ‘fan ban’ on supporters of Maccabi Tel Aviv FC.

The world feels more complicated than ever – so Stacey Dooley and Ben Zand are here to make sense of it. Each week, they dive into the stories behind the headlines, unravelling the spin and getting to the real stuff shaping your world. News, culture, political drama - smart, curious, and honest. A Channel 4 podcast cutting through the chaos of modern life, untangling what really matters and why.

00:00 Intro 01:02 Ben and Stacey 03:40 Prince Andrew gives up royal titles and the rent saga 16:12 Chat GPT, erotica and relationships 32:32 Maccabi Tel Aviv FC fans banned from Aston Villa 40:07 Outro

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