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    <description>This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters source faster, connect smarter, and hire better.</description>
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    <itunes:subtitle>The mindset change every recruiter needs, straight from the floor.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <description>Curiosity isn’t just a buzzword—it’s your edge in a world moving at breakneck speed. In this conversation, we crack open what it really means to keep learning, take feedback seriously, and adapt to the tectonic shifts in recruitment, tech, and workforce dynamics. Spoiler alert: Gen Z’s not waiting for permission.

In this episode speak with Edie Goldberg about curiosity, feedback, AI in recruitment, women in tech, and shifting workforce dynamics. We explore how learning keeps you relevant, how technology reshapes hiring, and why understanding context matters more than ever. If you’re navigating the future of work, this is your map.



Key Takeaways:

➡ Curiosity is your professional survival kit in a fast-moving world

➡ Feedback isn't optional—it’s the fuel for leveling up

➡ New tech isn’t coming, it’s here—adapt or fall behind

➡ Gen Z isn’t chasing jobs—they’re building their own paths

➡ Women in tech are still massively underrepresented

➡ Interview norms have shifted—respect and clarity matter

➡ AI isn’t replacing recruiters, it’s supercharging them

➡ Communication without context? That’s where things break

➡ Remote culture demands new rules of engagement

➡ Continuous learning isn’t a trend—it’s a mindset

➡ Supporting women isn’t a campaign—it’s a commitment

➡ Attention is fractured—how you engage matters more than ever



Timestamps:

00:00 – The Importance of Curiosity and Learning

02:53 – Feedback: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

06:00 – Adapting to Change: Technology and Recruitment

09:02 – The Role of AI in Recruitment

11:56 – Changing Workforce Dynamics: Attracting Talent

14:56 – Empowering Women in HR Tech

17:53 – Navigating Interviews: Expectations and Etiquette

21:01 – The Impact of Technology on Attention

23:58 – Concluding Thoughts: Learning from Each Other



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This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  
Edie Goldberg LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edie-goldberg-phd/



  
Website: https://www.elgoldberg.com/






Connect with Us:


  
William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/






Connect with us on social:


  
Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com



  
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Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined



  
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      <itunes:title>You’re Either Learning or You’re Losing</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Cut through the noise - curiosity wins.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Curiosity isn’t just a buzzword—it’s your edge in a world moving at breakneck speed. In this conversation, we crack open what it really means to keep learning, take feedback seriously, and adapt to the tectonic shifts in recruitment, tech, and workforce dynamics. Spoiler alert: Gen Z’s not waiting for permission.

In this episode speak with Edie Goldberg about curiosity, feedback, AI in recruitment, women in tech, and shifting workforce dynamics. We explore how learning keeps you relevant, how technology reshapes hiring, and why understanding context matters more than ever. If you’re navigating the future of work, this is your map.



Key Takeaways:

➡ Curiosity is your professional survival kit in a fast-moving world

➡ Feedback isn't optional—it’s the fuel for leveling up

➡ New tech isn’t coming, it’s here—adapt or fall behind

➡ Gen Z isn’t chasing jobs—they’re building their own paths

➡ Women in tech are still massively underrepresented

➡ Interview norms have shifted—respect and clarity matter

➡ AI isn’t replacing recruiters, it’s supercharging them

➡ Communication without context? That’s where things break

➡ Remote culture demands new rules of engagement

➡ Continuous learning isn’t a trend—it’s a mindset

➡ Supporting women isn’t a campaign—it’s a commitment

➡ Attention is fractured—how you engage matters more than ever



Timestamps:

00:00 – The Importance of Curiosity and Learning

02:53 – Feedback: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly

06:00 – Adapting to Change: Technology and Recruitment

09:02 – The Role of AI in Recruitment

11:56 – Changing Workforce Dynamics: Attracting Talent

14:56 – Empowering Women in HR Tech

17:53 – Navigating Interviews: Expectations and Etiquette

21:01 – The Impact of Technology on Attention

23:58 – Concluding Thoughts: Learning from Each Other



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This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  
Edie Goldberg LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edie-goldberg-phd/



  
Website: https://www.elgoldberg.com/






Connect with Us:


  
William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/






Connect with us on social:


  
Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com



  
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined



  
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined



  
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/



  
Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined



  
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<p>In this episode speak with Edie Goldberg about curiosity, feedback, AI in recruitment, women in tech, and shifting workforce dynamics. We explore how learning keeps you relevant, how technology reshapes hiring, and why understanding context matters more than ever. If you’re navigating the future of work, this is your map.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways:</strong></p>
<p>➡ Curiosity is your professional survival kit in a fast-moving world</p>
<p>➡ Feedback isn't optional—it’s the fuel for leveling up</p>
<p>➡ New tech isn’t coming, it’s here—adapt or fall behind</p>
<p>➡ Gen Z isn’t chasing jobs—they’re building their own paths</p>
<p>➡ Women in tech are still massively underrepresented</p>
<p>➡ Interview norms have shifted—respect and clarity matter</p>
<p>➡ AI isn’t replacing recruiters, it’s supercharging them</p>
<p>➡ Communication without context? That’s where things break</p>
<p>➡ Remote culture demands new rules of engagement</p>
<p>➡ Continuous learning isn’t a trend—it’s a mindset</p>
<p>➡ Supporting women isn’t a campaign—it’s a commitment</p>
<p>➡ Attention is fractured—how you engage matters more than ever</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p>
<p>00:00 – The Importance of Curiosity and Learning</p>
<p>02:53 – Feedback: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly</p>
<p>06:00 – Adapting to Change: Technology and Recruitment</p>
<p>09:02 – The Role of AI in Recruitment</p>
<p>11:56 – Changing Workforce Dynamics: Attracting Talent</p>
<p>14:56 – Empowering Women in HR Tech</p>
<p>17:53 – Navigating Interviews: Expectations and Etiquette</p>
<p>21:01 – The Impact of Technology on Attention</p>
<p>23:58 – Concluding Thoughts: Learning from Each Other</p>
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<p><strong>IMAGE</strong>
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<p>This limited series was recorded live at the <strong>ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit</strong> from the <strong>Chatterworks</strong> booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by <strong>Chatterworks</strong>, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.</p>
<p><a href="https://chatterworks.com/"><u>Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with the guest:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>Edie Goldberg LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/edie-goldberg-phd/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/edie-goldberg-phd/</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Website: <a href="https://www.elgoldberg.com/"><u>https://www.elgoldberg.com/</u></a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with Us:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>William Tincup LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Ryan Leary LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/</u></a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with us on social:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>Site:<a href="http://www.wrkdefined.com"> <u>http://www.wrkdefined.com</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>TikTok:<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined"> <u>https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Facebook:<a href="https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/"> <u>https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Twitter (X):<a href="https://twitter.com/WRKdefined"> <u>https://twitter.com/WRKdefined</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Substack:<a href="https://wrkdefined.substack.com/"> <u>https://wrkdefined.substack.com/</u></a></p>
</li>
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      <title>You’re Already in the Revolution—Recruitment, AI, and the Fight for Relevance</title>
      <description>Recruitment is evolving fast—and if you’re not adapting, you’re getting left behind. From AI disruption to cultural shifts, this episode digs deep into how tech is reshaping the hiring game, why your story matters more than ever, and the unexpected cities making big waves in talent.

In this episode we speak with industry playboy Aaron Daniels and dive into the recruitment trenches, swap stories from the field, and explore how culture, music, and perspective fuel personal and professional growth. There’s real talk, some laughs, and a sharp look at the future of hiring through the lens of AI, networking, and narrative.



Key Takeaways:

➡ Recruitment is getting redefined by technology—adapt or fall behind 

➡ AI is more than a buzzword—it’s the spark of the next industrial revolution 

➡ Most recruiters sit somewhere between panic and progress when it comes to tech 

➡ If you don’t tell your story, someone else will (and they’ll probably get it wrong) 

➡ San Antonio is a sleeper city with serious community and culture 

➡ Music and culture aren’t distractions—they’re fuel for better work 

➡ Perspective isn’t soft—it’s your edge in personal and professional growth 

➡ Conferences aren’t just about panels—they’re about who you meet at the bar 

➡ Knowing local laws and culture isn’t optional—it’s how you stay relevant 

➡ Continuous learning isn’t a luxury—it’s survival


Timestamps:

00:00 – Who is Aaron Daniels and why is he so loved? 

06:58 – Recruitment Insights and Technology Trends 

11:56 – Cultural Reflections and Personal Perspectives 

14:54 – Conclusion and Final Thoughts



IMAGE


This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  
Aaron Daniels LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arrondaniels/




Connect with Us:


  
William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/




Connect with us on social:


  
Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com



  
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined



  
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined



  
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/



  
Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined



  
Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2025 18:23:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>You’re Already in the Revolution—Recruitment, AI, and the Fight for Relevance</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Where tech meets talent—and culture calls BS on the status quo</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Recruitment is evolving fast—and if you’re not adapting, you’re getting left behind. From AI disruption to cultural shifts, this episode digs deep into how tech is reshaping the hiring game, why your story matters more than ever, and the unexpected cities making big waves in talent.

In this episode we speak with industry playboy Aaron Daniels and dive into the recruitment trenches, swap stories from the field, and explore how culture, music, and perspective fuel personal and professional growth. There’s real talk, some laughs, and a sharp look at the future of hiring through the lens of AI, networking, and narrative.



Key Takeaways:

➡ Recruitment is getting redefined by technology—adapt or fall behind 

➡ AI is more than a buzzword—it’s the spark of the next industrial revolution 

➡ Most recruiters sit somewhere between panic and progress when it comes to tech 

➡ If you don’t tell your story, someone else will (and they’ll probably get it wrong) 

➡ San Antonio is a sleeper city with serious community and culture 

➡ Music and culture aren’t distractions—they’re fuel for better work 

➡ Perspective isn’t soft—it’s your edge in personal and professional growth 

➡ Conferences aren’t just about panels—they’re about who you meet at the bar 

➡ Knowing local laws and culture isn’t optional—it’s how you stay relevant 

➡ Continuous learning isn’t a luxury—it’s survival


Timestamps:

00:00 – Who is Aaron Daniels and why is he so loved? 

06:58 – Recruitment Insights and Technology Trends 

11:56 – Cultural Reflections and Personal Perspectives 

14:54 – Conclusion and Final Thoughts



IMAGE


This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  
Aaron Daniels LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/arrondaniels/




Connect with Us:


  
William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/




Connect with us on social:


  
Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com



  
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined



  
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined



  
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/



  
Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined



  
Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Recruitment is evolving fast—and if you’re not adapting, you’re getting left behind. From AI disruption to cultural shifts, this episode digs deep into how tech is reshaping the hiring game, why your story matters more than ever, and the unexpected cities making big waves in talent.</p>
<p>In this episode we speak with industry playboy Aaron Daniels and dive into the recruitment trenches, swap stories from the field, and explore how culture, music, and perspective fuel personal and professional growth. There’s real talk, some laughs, and a sharp look at the future of hiring through the lens of AI, networking, and narrative.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways:</strong></p>
<p>➡ Recruitment is getting redefined by technology—adapt or fall behind </p>
<p>➡ AI is more than a buzzword—it’s the spark of the next industrial revolution </p>
<p>➡ Most recruiters sit somewhere between panic and progress when it comes to tech </p>
<p>➡ If you don’t tell your story, someone else will (and they’ll probably get it wrong) </p>
<p>➡ San Antonio is a sleeper city with serious community and culture </p>
<p>➡ Music and culture aren’t distractions—they’re fuel for better work </p>
<p>➡ Perspective isn’t soft—it’s your edge in personal and professional growth </p>
<p>➡ Conferences aren’t just about panels—they’re about who you meet at the bar </p>
<p>➡ Knowing local laws and culture isn’t optional—it’s how you stay relevant </p>
<p>➡ Continuous learning isn’t a luxury—it’s survival
</p>
<p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p>
<p>00:00 – Who is Aaron Daniels and why is he so loved? </p>
<p>06:58 – Recruitment Insights and Technology Trends </p>
<p>11:56 – Cultural Reflections and Personal Perspectives </p>
<p>14:54 – Conclusion and Final Thoughts</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>IMAGE</strong></p>
<p>
This limited series was recorded live at the <strong>ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit</strong> from the <strong>Chatterworks</strong> booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by <strong>Chatterworks</strong>, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.</p>
<p><a href="https://chatterworks.com/"><u>Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with the guest:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>Aaron Daniels LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/arrondaniels/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/arrondaniels/</u></a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Us:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>William Tincup LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Ryan Leary LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/</u></a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with us on social:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>Site:<a href="http://www.wrkdefined.com"> <u>http://www.wrkdefined.com</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>TikTok:<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined"> <u>https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Facebook:<a href="https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/"> <u>https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Twitter (X):<a href="https://twitter.com/WRKdefined"> <u>https://twitter.com/WRKdefined</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Substack:<a href="https://wrkdefined.substack.com/"> <u>https://wrkdefined.substack.com/</u></a><br></p>
</li>
</ul>]]>
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      <title>No Résumé, No Problem: Skill-Based Hiring is Here with Nir Dovrat of Canditech</title>
      <description>Recruiting's broken and everyone knows it. From resume roulette to HR tech that overpromises and underdelivers, the old ways are failing fast. Enter Canditech, flipping the hiring script with skill-based assessments and AI that doesn’t try to play recruiter.

In this episode we sit down with Nir, co-founder of Canditech, to talk about what real innovation in hiring looks like. We get into the nuts and bolts of skill-first hiring, the overhyped role of AI, and why job simulations might be your next best hire. Plus: conference schmoozing, real talk on hiring fail points, and why most résumés should be tossed in the trash.












































This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  
Nir Dovrat LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nir-dovrat-2217a750/



  
Website: https://www.canditech.io/






Connect with Us:


  
William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/






Connect with us on social:


  
Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com



  
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      <itunes:title>No Résumé, No Problem: Skill-Based Hiring is Here with Nir Dovrat of Canditech</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>Recruiting's broken and everyone knows it. From resume roulette to HR tech that overpromises and underdelivers, the old ways are failing fast. Enter Canditech, flipping the hiring script with skill-based assessments and AI that doesn’t try to play recruiter.

In this episode we sit down with Nir, co-founder of Canditech, to talk about what real innovation in hiring looks like. We get into the nuts and bolts of skill-first hiring, the overhyped role of AI, and why job simulations might be your next best hire. Plus: conference schmoozing, real talk on hiring fail points, and why most résumés should be tossed in the trash.












































This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



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Nir Dovrat LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nir-dovrat-2217a750/



  
Website: https://www.canditech.io/






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<p>In this episode we sit down with Nir, co-founder of Canditech, to talk about what real innovation in hiring looks like. We get into the nuts and bolts of skill-first hiring, the overhyped role of AI, and why job simulations might be your next best hire. Plus: conference schmoozing, real talk on hiring fail points, and why most résumés should be tossed in the trash.</p>
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<p><a href="https://chatterworks.com/"><u>Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/</u></a></p>
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      <description>AI isn’t just a buzzword anymore—it’s the engine behind recruiting’s next evolution. From rapid tech shifts to strange encounters with chatbots, this episode digs into what happens when innovation meets real-world hiring. Spoiler: futurism isn’t science, it’s mostly vibes.

In this episode, we speak with Johnny Sanchez, Head of Talent Operations at Rivian about AI, recruiting, innovation, technology, design thinking, and the future of work. We dive into conference takeaways, personal experiences with AI, and the trends shifting the talent acquisition space. If you're wondering how AI is actually changing recruiting, this is your real-world debrief.











































This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



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Johnny Sanchez LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanchezjohnny/






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      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2025 18:23:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>AI Is Eating Recruiting - Here’s What’s Next, or is it? With Johnny Sanchez Head of Talent Operations at Rivian</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Where tech meets talent—with a dose of brutal honesty.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>AI isn’t just a buzzword anymore—it’s the engine behind recruiting’s next evolution. From rapid tech shifts to strange encounters with chatbots, this episode digs into what happens when innovation meets real-world hiring. Spoiler: futurism isn’t science, it’s mostly vibes.

In this episode, we speak with Johnny Sanchez, Head of Talent Operations at Rivian about AI, recruiting, innovation, technology, design thinking, and the future of work. We dive into conference takeaways, personal experiences with AI, and the trends shifting the talent acquisition space. If you're wondering how AI is actually changing recruiting, this is your real-world debrief.











































This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



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Johnny Sanchez LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanchezjohnny/






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William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/






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<p>In this episode, we speak with Johnny Sanchez, Head of Talent Operations at Rivian about AI, recruiting, innovation, technology, design thinking, and the future of work. We dive into conference takeaways, personal experiences with AI, and the trends shifting the talent acquisition space. If you're wondering how AI is actually changing recruiting, this is your real-world debrief.</p>
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<p><a href="https://chatterworks.com/"><u>Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/</u></a></p>
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      <description>Ever wonder what happens when a consultant jumps into product strategy? Spoiler: it’s not all roadmaps and wireframes. We’re talking about the human side of tech—how real conversations at conferences, a killer candidate experience, and vendor humility can shape the future of recruitment. This one’s about what actually moves the needle.

In this episode we speak with Elaine Orler chief Strategy and Product Officer at Match2 to dig into her journey from consulting to product strategy, why vendor engagement matters more than ever, and how the smartest recruiters use conferences to learn—not just pitch. We break down the candidate experience, mentorship, and how to build a recruitment career rooted in real relationships.




























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00:00 — Who is Elaine Orler and why is she special?

 03:00 — Consulting to Product Strategy

 05:57 — Vendor Engagement at Conferences

 09:01 — Learning and Networking at Events

 11:59 — Candidate Experience and Industry Insights

 14:58 — Reflections on Relationships and Learning




This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



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Elaine Orler LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elaineorler/



  
Website: https://match2.jobs/






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William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/






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      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Real talk about relationships, strategy, and recruitment.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Ever wonder what happens when a consultant jumps into product strategy? Spoiler: it’s not all roadmaps and wireframes. We’re talking about the human side of tech—how real conversations at conferences, a killer candidate experience, and vendor humility can shape the future of recruitment. This one’s about what actually moves the needle.

In this episode we speak with Elaine Orler chief Strategy and Product Officer at Match2 to dig into her journey from consulting to product strategy, why vendor engagement matters more than ever, and how the smartest recruiters use conferences to learn—not just pitch. We break down the candidate experience, mentorship, and how to build a recruitment career rooted in real relationships.




























Timestamps:

00:00 — Who is Elaine Orler and why is she special?

 03:00 — Consulting to Product Strategy

 05:57 — Vendor Engagement at Conferences

 09:01 — Learning and Networking at Events

 11:59 — Candidate Experience and Industry Insights

 14:58 — Reflections on Relationships and Learning




This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  
Elaine Orler LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elaineorler/



  
Website: https://match2.jobs/






Connect with Us:


  
William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/






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Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com



  
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<p>In this episode we speak with Elaine Orler chief Strategy and Product Officer at Match2 to dig into her journey from consulting to product strategy, why vendor engagement matters more than ever, and how the smartest recruiters use conferences to learn—not just pitch. We break down the candidate experience, mentorship, and how to build a recruitment career rooted in real relationships.</p>
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<p> 03:00 — Consulting to Product Strategy</p>
<p> 05:57 — Vendor Engagement at Conferences</p>
<p> 09:01 — Learning and Networking at Events</p>
<p> 11:59 — Candidate Experience and Industry Insights</p>
<p> 14:58 — Reflections on Relationships and Learning</p>
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<p>This limited series was recorded live at the <strong>ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit</strong> from the <strong>Chatterworks</strong> booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by <strong>Chatterworks</strong>, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.</p>
<p><a href="https://chatterworks.com/"><u>Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/</u></a></p>
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<p>Elaine Orler LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elaineorler/</p>
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<p>Website: <a href="https://match2.jobs/"><u>https://match2.jobs/</u></a></p>
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<p>William Tincup LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/</u></a></p>
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<p>Ryan Leary LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/</u></a></p>
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      <description>What do Jewish weddings, Gen Z, and professionalism have in common? More than you'd think. This episode blends history, humor, and real-world workplace insight into a conversation that punches through clichés and gets to the heart of how we connect across generations.

In this episode, we lay back with Danielle Farage, future of work influencer and speaker to unpack the layered history of Jewish persecution, the cultural power of humor, and how that all ties into the challenges facing today’s job seekers. We talk about weddings (yes, the dancing too), employer branding, and why redefining professionalism might be the smartest move your company hasn’t made yet.



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 ➡ Jewish populations have drastically declined in several global regions—history matters.

 ➡ Humor remains a key survival mechanism in Jewish communities, especially post-trauma.

 ➡ Generational gaps in communication style are disrupting traditional workplace norms.

 ➡ Young professionals entering the workforce post-COVID face higher stress and fewer resources.

 ➡ “Professionalism” is a moving target—and often a biased one.

 ➡ Weddings tell you everything about culture—and what people value.

 ➡ Employer branding is no longer optional—it’s a magnet or a repellent.

 ➡ Redefining old-school terms like professionalism can foster inclusion.

 ➡ Skilled trades are making a major comeback—Gen Z is watching.

 ➡ Storytelling isn’t fluff—it’s your recruitment strategy in disguise.



Timestamps:

 00:00 – Historical Context of Jewish Persecution

 02:58 – The Role of Humor in Jewish Culture

 05:52 – Intergenerational Communication and Work Dynamics

 08:48 – Navigating the Job Market Post-Pandemic

 12:08 – Redefining Professionalism for a New Generation

 14:55 – Cultural Perspectives on Weddings and Celebrations

 17:58 – The Future of Work and Employer Branding



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This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



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Danielle Farage LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/danielle-farage-llc/



  
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/daniellefarage






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William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
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      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2025 18:23:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Why Gen Z Doesn’t Care About Your Definition of “Professional”</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Bridging generations, cultures, and workplace expectations—one story at a time.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>What do Jewish weddings, Gen Z, and professionalism have in common? More than you'd think. This episode blends history, humor, and real-world workplace insight into a conversation that punches through clichés and gets to the heart of how we connect across generations.

In this episode, we lay back with Danielle Farage, future of work influencer and speaker to unpack the layered history of Jewish persecution, the cultural power of humor, and how that all ties into the challenges facing today’s job seekers. We talk about weddings (yes, the dancing too), employer branding, and why redefining professionalism might be the smartest move your company hasn’t made yet.



Key Takeaways:

 ➡ Jewish populations have drastically declined in several global regions—history matters.

 ➡ Humor remains a key survival mechanism in Jewish communities, especially post-trauma.

 ➡ Generational gaps in communication style are disrupting traditional workplace norms.

 ➡ Young professionals entering the workforce post-COVID face higher stress and fewer resources.

 ➡ “Professionalism” is a moving target—and often a biased one.

 ➡ Weddings tell you everything about culture—and what people value.

 ➡ Employer branding is no longer optional—it’s a magnet or a repellent.

 ➡ Redefining old-school terms like professionalism can foster inclusion.

 ➡ Skilled trades are making a major comeback—Gen Z is watching.

 ➡ Storytelling isn’t fluff—it’s your recruitment strategy in disguise.



Timestamps:

 00:00 – Historical Context of Jewish Persecution

 02:58 – The Role of Humor in Jewish Culture

 05:52 – Intergenerational Communication and Work Dynamics

 08:48 – Navigating the Job Market Post-Pandemic

 12:08 – Redefining Professionalism for a New Generation

 14:55 – Cultural Perspectives on Weddings and Celebrations

 17:58 – The Future of Work and Employer Branding



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This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  
Danielle Farage LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/danielle-farage-llc/



  
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/daniellefarage






Connect with Us:


  
William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/






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        <![CDATA[<p>What do Jewish weddings, Gen Z, and professionalism have in common? More than you'd think. This episode blends history, humor, and real-world workplace insight into a conversation that punches through clichés and gets to the heart of how we connect across generations.</p>
<p>In this episode, we lay back with Danielle Farage, future of work influencer and speaker to unpack the layered history of Jewish persecution, the cultural power of humor, and how that all ties into the challenges facing today’s job seekers. We talk about weddings (yes, the dancing too), employer branding, and why redefining professionalism might be the smartest move your company hasn’t made yet.</p>
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<p><strong>Key Takeaways:</strong></p>
<p> ➡ Jewish populations have drastically declined in several global regions—history matters.</p>
<p> ➡ Humor remains a key survival mechanism in Jewish communities, especially post-trauma.</p>
<p> ➡ Generational gaps in communication style are disrupting traditional workplace norms.</p>
<p> ➡ Young professionals entering the workforce post-COVID face higher stress and fewer resources.</p>
<p> ➡ “Professionalism” is a moving target—and often a biased one.</p>
<p> ➡ Weddings tell you everything about culture—and what people value.</p>
<p> ➡ Employer branding is no longer optional—it’s a magnet or a repellent.</p>
<p> ➡ Redefining old-school terms like professionalism can foster inclusion.</p>
<p> ➡ Skilled trades are making a major comeback—Gen Z is watching.</p>
<p> ➡ Storytelling isn’t fluff—it’s your recruitment strategy in disguise.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p>
<p> 00:00 – Historical Context of Jewish Persecution</p>
<p> 02:58 – The Role of Humor in Jewish Culture</p>
<p> 05:52 – Intergenerational Communication and Work Dynamics</p>
<p> 08:48 – Navigating the Job Market Post-Pandemic</p>
<p> 12:08 – Redefining Professionalism for a New Generation</p>
<p> 14:55 – Cultural Perspectives on Weddings and Celebrations</p>
<p> 17:58 – The Future of Work and Employer Branding</p>
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<p><strong>IMAGE</strong></p>
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<p>This limited series was recorded live at the <strong>ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit</strong> from the <strong>Chatterworks</strong> booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by <strong>Chatterworks</strong>, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.</p>
<p><a href="https://chatterworks.com/"><u>Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with the guest:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>Danielle Farage LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/danielle-farage-llc/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/company/danielle-farage-llc/</u></a></p>
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<p>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/daniellefarage"><u>https://www.instagram.com/daniellefarage</u></a></p>
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</ul>
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<p><strong>Connect with Us:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>William Tincup LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Ryan Leary LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/</u></a></p>
</li>
</ul>
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<p><strong>Connect with us on social:</strong></p>
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      <description>Recruiting ain't dead—but your tactics might be. Brandon Jeffs, Director of People and Talent at TLDR, drops the mic on what’s broken in recruitment and what’s actually working. From empathy-led engagement to the quiet power of newsletters, this convo hits hard on what it takes to recruit in a tech-first, human-centered world.

In this episode, we talk about recruitment innovation, candidate engagement, TLDR’s hiring philosophy, tech-driven recruiting tools, and the power of employer branding. Brandon Jeffs joins us to unpack what’s changing in HR, how to connect with top talent, and why empathy might just be your best recruiting tool in 2025.















































This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  
Brandon Jeffs LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandohires/



  
Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-revolta-podcast






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William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/






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      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2025 18:22:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Why TLDR and Brandon Jeffs Are Flipping the Hiring Script</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Candidate vibes &gt; Corporate B.S.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Recruiting ain't dead—but your tactics might be. Brandon Jeffs, Director of People and Talent at TLDR, drops the mic on what’s broken in recruitment and what’s actually working. From empathy-led engagement to the quiet power of newsletters, this convo hits hard on what it takes to recruit in a tech-first, human-centered world.

In this episode, we talk about recruitment innovation, candidate engagement, TLDR’s hiring philosophy, tech-driven recruiting tools, and the power of employer branding. Brandon Jeffs joins us to unpack what’s changing in HR, how to connect with top talent, and why empathy might just be your best recruiting tool in 2025.















































This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  
Brandon Jeffs LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandohires/



  
Podcast: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-revolta-podcast






Connect with Us:


  
William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/






Connect with us on social:


  Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com


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  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined


  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/


  Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined


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<p>In this episode, we talk about recruitment innovation, candidate engagement, TLDR’s hiring philosophy, tech-driven recruiting tools, and the power of employer branding. Brandon Jeffs joins us to unpack what’s changing in HR, how to connect with top talent, and why empathy might just be your best recruiting tool in 2025.</p>
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<p>This limited series was recorded live at the <strong>ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit</strong> from the <strong>Chatterworks</strong> booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by <strong>Chatterworks</strong>, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.</p>
<p><a href="https://chatterworks.com/"><u>Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with the guest:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>Brandon Jeffs LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandohires/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/brandohires/</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Podcast: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-revolta-podcast"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-revolta-podcast</u></a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with Us:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>William Tincup LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Ryan Leary LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/</u></a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with us on social:</strong></p>
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  <li>Site:<a href="http://www.wrkdefined.com"> <u>http://www.wrkdefined.com</u></a>
</li>
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      <title>Navigating Talent Acquisition in a Changing Landscape with Lisa Kraska, VP Global Talent Acquisition at Footlocker</title>
      <description>Foot Locker’s newest recruiting leader isn’t playing defense—she’s rewriting the playbook. In this episode, Lisa Kraska shares her journey from healthcare into retail talent acquisition, unpacking what it really takes to build relationships, adapt to tech, and keep your recruiting game sharp. No fluff—just smart insight from someone who’s living it.

We talk about Foot Locker, recruitment, talent acquisition strategies, company culture, hiring technology, and personal stories that shape HR transformation. William Tincup and Ryan Leary sit down with Lisa Kraska to unpack what it means to stay relevant in the talent game—and why relationships still win.



Key Takeaways

 ➡ Lisa Kraska is now leading global talent acquisition at Foot Locker

 ➡ Moving from healthcare to retail means a brand-new recruiting playbook

 ➡ Relationships still beat résumés—every time

 ➡ Technology is rewriting the rules of TA faster than most can keep up

 ➡ Company culture isn’t a perk—it’s the glue that keeps talent around

 ➡ Listening to hiring managers is a lost art—and it shows

 ➡ The Recruiting Innovation Summit reminded us why recruiters need to evolve

 ➡ Personal storytelling can cut through the noise and attract top talent

 ➡ Conferences aren’t just for swag—they’re for strategic connections

 ➡ Adaptability and continuous learning are the new must-haves in recruiting



Timestamps

 00:00 — Introduction and Personal Insights

 03:10 — Transitioning to Foot Locker: Challenges and Opportunities

 07:51 — Recruitment Strategies and Company Culture

 11:31 — Staying Relevant in Talent Acquisition

 18:06 — Reflections on the Recruiting Innovation Summit



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This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  
Lisa Kraska LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisakraska/






Connect with Us:


  
William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/






Connect with us on social:


  
Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com



  
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined



  
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined



  
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/



  
Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined



  
Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2025 18:22:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Navigating Talent Acquisition in a Changing Landscape with Lisa Kraska, VP Global Talent Acquisition at Footlocker</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Big-brand recruiting meets real-world wisdom</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Foot Locker’s newest recruiting leader isn’t playing defense—she’s rewriting the playbook. In this episode, Lisa Kraska shares her journey from healthcare into retail talent acquisition, unpacking what it really takes to build relationships, adapt to tech, and keep your recruiting game sharp. No fluff—just smart insight from someone who’s living it.

We talk about Foot Locker, recruitment, talent acquisition strategies, company culture, hiring technology, and personal stories that shape HR transformation. William Tincup and Ryan Leary sit down with Lisa Kraska to unpack what it means to stay relevant in the talent game—and why relationships still win.



Key Takeaways

 ➡ Lisa Kraska is now leading global talent acquisition at Foot Locker

 ➡ Moving from healthcare to retail means a brand-new recruiting playbook

 ➡ Relationships still beat résumés—every time

 ➡ Technology is rewriting the rules of TA faster than most can keep up

 ➡ Company culture isn’t a perk—it’s the glue that keeps talent around

 ➡ Listening to hiring managers is a lost art—and it shows

 ➡ The Recruiting Innovation Summit reminded us why recruiters need to evolve

 ➡ Personal storytelling can cut through the noise and attract top talent

 ➡ Conferences aren’t just for swag—they’re for strategic connections

 ➡ Adaptability and continuous learning are the new must-haves in recruiting



Timestamps

 00:00 — Introduction and Personal Insights

 03:10 — Transitioning to Foot Locker: Challenges and Opportunities

 07:51 — Recruitment Strategies and Company Culture

 11:31 — Staying Relevant in Talent Acquisition

 18:06 — Reflections on the Recruiting Innovation Summit



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This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  
Lisa Kraska LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisakraska/






Connect with Us:


  
William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/






Connect with us on social:


  
Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com



  
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined



  
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined



  
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/



  
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        <![CDATA[<p>Foot Locker’s newest recruiting leader isn’t playing defense—she’s rewriting the playbook. In this episode, Lisa Kraska shares her journey from healthcare into retail talent acquisition, unpacking what it really takes to build relationships, adapt to tech, and keep your recruiting game sharp. No fluff—just smart insight from someone who’s living it.</p>
<p>We talk about Foot Locker, recruitment, talent acquisition strategies, company culture, hiring technology, and personal stories that shape HR transformation. William Tincup and Ryan Leary sit down with Lisa Kraska to unpack what it means to stay relevant in the talent game—and why relationships still win.</p>
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<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<p> ➡ Lisa Kraska is now leading global talent acquisition at Foot Locker</p>
<p> ➡ Moving from healthcare to retail means a brand-new recruiting playbook</p>
<p> ➡ Relationships still beat résumés—every time</p>
<p> ➡ Technology is rewriting the rules of TA faster than most can keep up</p>
<p> ➡ Company culture isn’t a perk—it’s the glue that keeps talent around</p>
<p> ➡ Listening to hiring managers is a lost art—and it shows</p>
<p> ➡ The Recruiting Innovation Summit reminded us why recruiters need to evolve</p>
<p> ➡ Personal storytelling can cut through the noise and attract top talent</p>
<p> ➡ Conferences aren’t just for swag—they’re for strategic connections</p>
<p> ➡ Adaptability and continuous learning are the new must-haves in recruiting</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Timestamps</strong></p>
<p> 00:00 — Introduction and Personal Insights</p>
<p> 03:10 — Transitioning to Foot Locker: Challenges and Opportunities</p>
<p> 07:51 — Recruitment Strategies and Company Culture</p>
<p> 11:31 — Staying Relevant in Talent Acquisition</p>
<p> 18:06 — Reflections on the Recruiting Innovation Summit</p>
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<p>This limited series was recorded live at the <strong>ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit</strong> from the <strong>Chatterworks</strong> booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by <strong>Chatterworks</strong>, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.</p>
<p><a href="https://chatterworks.com/"><u>Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with the guest:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>Lisa Kraska LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisakraska/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisakraska/</u></a></p>
</li>
</ul>
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<p><strong>Connect with Us:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>William Tincup LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/</u></a></p>
</li>
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<p>Ryan Leary LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/</u></a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with us on social:</strong></p>
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  <li>
<p>Site:<a href="http://www.wrkdefined.com"> <u>http://www.wrkdefined.com</u></a></p>
</li>
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<p>TikTok:<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined"> <u>https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined</u></a></p>
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<p>LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined</u></a></p>
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      <description>You think hiring creatives is easy? Think again. Katelyn Bailey from Design Pickle pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to build and support a team of right-brained badasses. From AI creep in recruiting to why feedback should be part of your hiring loop, this one’s got all the juicy bits.

In this episode, we talk about how Design Pickle scaled from a graphic design subscription to a full-blown creative services powerhouse—and what that meant for talent acquisition. Katelyn dives deep into the emotions behind layoffs, the nuance of recruiting creatives, and how to not sound like a corporate zombie during interviews.






  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

























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Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  Cailean Bailey LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caileanbailey/



Connect with Us:


    

William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



    

Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/




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  Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2025 18:22:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Why Respect Is a Competency: Inside Design Pickle's Talent Strategy</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Design Pickle’s Cailean Bailey gets real about talent, tools, and the emotional gut-punch of workforce shifts.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>You think hiring creatives is easy? Think again. Katelyn Bailey from Design Pickle pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to build and support a team of right-brained badasses. From AI creep in recruiting to why feedback should be part of your hiring loop, this one’s got all the juicy bits.

In this episode, we talk about how Design Pickle scaled from a graphic design subscription to a full-blown creative services powerhouse—and what that meant for talent acquisition. Katelyn dives deep into the emotions behind layoffs, the nuance of recruiting creatives, and how to not sound like a corporate zombie during interviews.






  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

  

























This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  Cailean Bailey LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caileanbailey/



Connect with Us:


    

William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



    

Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/




Connect with us on social:


    

Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com



    

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined



    

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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/



    

Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined


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        <![CDATA[<p>You think hiring creatives is easy? Think again. Katelyn Bailey from Design Pickle pulls back the curtain on what it really takes to build and support a team of right-brained badasses. From AI creep in recruiting to why feedback should be part of your hiring loop, this one’s got all the juicy bits.</p>
<p>In this episode, we talk about how Design Pickle scaled from a graphic design subscription to a full-blown creative services powerhouse—and what that meant for talent acquisition. Katelyn dives deep into the emotions behind layoffs, the nuance of recruiting creatives, and how to not sound like a corporate zombie during interviews.</p>
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<p>This limited series was recorded live at the <strong>ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit</strong> from the <strong>Chatterworks</strong> booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by <strong>Chatterworks</strong>, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.</p>
<p><a href="https://chatterworks.com/"><u>Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with the guest:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Cailean Bailey LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/caileanbailey/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/caileanbailey/</u></a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Us:</strong></p>
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<li>William Tincup LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/</u></a>
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<li>Ryan Leary LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/</u></a>
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      <title>Why Mental Health Might Be the Most Underrated Recruitment Strategy</title>
      <description>When was the last time a lost credit card sparked a deep dive into recruitment, the job market, and mental health? Paul DeBettignies brings Vegas stories and real talk to the table in this episode. We get raw, reflective, and a little ridiculous in all the right ways.

In this episode we spend time with the Minnesotata Headhunter himself to talk about Vegas adventures, recruitment challenges, the shifting economy, the importance of mental health, and the lasting impact of the Great Resignation. Paul joins us to reflect on the job market, tech events, and how real connection beats hustle every time.



Key Takeaways:

 ➡ Paul shares a hilarious story about losing his credit card in Vegas

 ➡ Mental health isn’t a perk—it’s a necessity in the modern workforce

 ➡ Recruitment is more complex than ever, and trust is scarce

 ➡ The most successful recruiters double down on personal connection

 ➡ Tech events are networking goldmines (when done right)

 ➡ The Great Resignation still haunts job satisfaction and engagement

 ➡ Self-care isn’t selfish—it’s essential for survival in high-stress roles

 ➡ Economic instability is forcing recruiters to rethink everything

 ➡ Writing and reflection are underrated growth tools

 ➡ “How are you really doing?” should be a daily question

 ➡ Recruiting without empathy is like Vegas without lights—pointless



Timestamps:

 00:00 — Vegas Adventures and Lost Cards

 02:58 — Introduction to Paul DeBettignies

 06:07 — The State of Recruitment and Economy

 09:01 — Tech Events and Networking

 12:06 — Challenges in Recruitment

 15:13 — Mental Health and the Workforce

 18:05 — The Great Resignation and Job Market

 20:58 — Reflections on the Future of Work



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This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  
Paul DeBettignies LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mnheadhunter/






Connect with Us:


  
William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/






Connect with us on social:


  
Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com



  
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined



  
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined



  
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/



  
Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined



  
Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2025 18:22:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Why Mental Health Might Be the Most Underrated Recruitment Strategy</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Real talk with Paul DeBettignies: Vegas, recruiters, and the future of work</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>When was the last time a lost credit card sparked a deep dive into recruitment, the job market, and mental health? Paul DeBettignies brings Vegas stories and real talk to the table in this episode. We get raw, reflective, and a little ridiculous in all the right ways.

In this episode we spend time with the Minnesotata Headhunter himself to talk about Vegas adventures, recruitment challenges, the shifting economy, the importance of mental health, and the lasting impact of the Great Resignation. Paul joins us to reflect on the job market, tech events, and how real connection beats hustle every time.



Key Takeaways:

 ➡ Paul shares a hilarious story about losing his credit card in Vegas

 ➡ Mental health isn’t a perk—it’s a necessity in the modern workforce

 ➡ Recruitment is more complex than ever, and trust is scarce

 ➡ The most successful recruiters double down on personal connection

 ➡ Tech events are networking goldmines (when done right)

 ➡ The Great Resignation still haunts job satisfaction and engagement

 ➡ Self-care isn’t selfish—it’s essential for survival in high-stress roles

 ➡ Economic instability is forcing recruiters to rethink everything

 ➡ Writing and reflection are underrated growth tools

 ➡ “How are you really doing?” should be a daily question

 ➡ Recruiting without empathy is like Vegas without lights—pointless



Timestamps:

 00:00 — Vegas Adventures and Lost Cards

 02:58 — Introduction to Paul DeBettignies

 06:07 — The State of Recruitment and Economy

 09:01 — Tech Events and Networking

 12:06 — Challenges in Recruitment

 15:13 — Mental Health and the Workforce

 18:05 — The Great Resignation and Job Market

 20:58 — Reflections on the Future of Work



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This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  
Paul DeBettignies LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mnheadhunter/






Connect with Us:


  
William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/






Connect with us on social:


  
Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com



  
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined



  
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined



  
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        <![CDATA[<p>When was the last time a lost credit card sparked a deep dive into recruitment, the job market, and mental health? Paul DeBettignies brings Vegas stories and real talk to the table in this episode. We get raw, reflective, and a little ridiculous in all the right ways.</p>
<p>In this episode we spend time with the Minnesotata Headhunter himself to talk about Vegas adventures, recruitment challenges, the shifting economy, the importance of mental health, and the lasting impact of the Great Resignation. Paul joins us to reflect on the job market, tech events, and how real connection beats hustle every time.</p>
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<p><strong>Key Takeaways:</strong></p>
<p> ➡ Paul shares a hilarious story about losing his credit card in Vegas</p>
<p> ➡ Mental health isn’t a perk—it’s a necessity in the modern workforce</p>
<p> ➡ Recruitment is more complex than ever, and trust is scarce</p>
<p> ➡ The most successful recruiters double down on personal connection</p>
<p> ➡ Tech events are networking goldmines (when done right)</p>
<p> ➡ The Great Resignation still haunts job satisfaction and engagement</p>
<p> ➡ Self-care isn’t selfish—it’s essential for survival in high-stress roles</p>
<p> ➡ Economic instability is forcing recruiters to rethink everything</p>
<p> ➡ Writing and reflection are underrated growth tools</p>
<p> ➡ “How are you really doing?” should be a daily question</p>
<p> ➡ Recruiting without empathy is like Vegas without lights—pointless</p>
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<p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p>
<p> 00:00 — Vegas Adventures and Lost Cards</p>
<p> 02:58 — Introduction to Paul DeBettignies</p>
<p> 06:07 — The State of Recruitment and Economy</p>
<p> 09:01 — Tech Events and Networking</p>
<p> 12:06 — Challenges in Recruitment</p>
<p> 15:13 — Mental Health and the Workforce</p>
<p> 18:05 — The Great Resignation and Job Market</p>
<p> 20:58 — Reflections on the Future of Work</p>
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<p>This limited series was recorded live at the <strong>ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit</strong> from the <strong>Chatterworks</strong> booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by <strong>Chatterworks</strong>, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.</p>
<p><a href="https://chatterworks.com/"><u>Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/</u></a></p>
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<p><strong>Connect with the guest:</strong></p>
<ul>
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<p>Paul DeBettignies LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mnheadhunter/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/mnheadhunter/</u></a></p>
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<p><strong>Connect with Us:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>William Tincup LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/</u></a></p>
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<p>Ryan Leary LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/</u></a></p>
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<p>Site:<a href="http://www.wrkdefined.com"> <u>http://www.wrkdefined.com</u></a></p>
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      <title>The Soundtrack of Hiring: Walkout Music Meets Recruitment Tech</title>
      <description>What’s your walkout song? If that question stumps you, you’re missing more than just a vibe check. In this convo, we get loud with Mike Sunderland from Hudson RPO as he rips into the unspoken power of walkout music, the overlooked layers of RPO, and how AI is quietly flipping recruiting on its head.

In this episode, we hit everything from the psychology of music in interviews to how AI tools are empowering candidates faster than employers can react. Mike breaks down why strategy—not execution—is the future battlefield of recruitment, and why staying nosy might be the smartest skill you’ve got.



Key Takeaways:


  Walkout music isn’t just fun—it signals candidate confidence, personality, and energy.

  Music bias is real, and it could be quietly shaping your hiring decisions.

  RPO is the misunderstood middle child between staffing and corporate recruiting.

  High RPO visibility = high expectations. Clients want ROI receipts.

  AI isn’t coming for recruiters—it’s already here and candidates are using it first.

  Recruiters must blend strategy with tech or get left behind.

  Execution is becoming table stakes. Strategy is where the war will be won.

  Continuous learning isn’t optional—relevance is a moving target.

  Industry events aren’t just schmooze fests—they’re insight goldmines.

  Curiosity isn’t a soft skill—it’s your recruiting superpower.




Timestamps:

00:00 – The Power of Walkout Music

 03:13 – Understanding Recruitment Process Outsourcing (RPO)

 06:12 – The Role of AI in Recruitment

 11:57 – Future of Recruiting: Strategy vs. Execution

 20:13 – Learning and Growth in Recruitment



IMAGE



This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  Mike Sunderland LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelsunderland1



Connect with Us:


    

William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



    

Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/




Connect with us on social:


    

Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com



    

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined



    

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined



    

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/



    

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  Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2025 18:22:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Soundtrack of Hiring: Walkout Music Meets Recruitment Tech</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Get hype, get hired—music, AI, and the future of recruiting.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>What’s your walkout song? If that question stumps you, you’re missing more than just a vibe check. In this convo, we get loud with Mike Sunderland from Hudson RPO as he rips into the unspoken power of walkout music, the overlooked layers of RPO, and how AI is quietly flipping recruiting on its head.

In this episode, we hit everything from the psychology of music in interviews to how AI tools are empowering candidates faster than employers can react. Mike breaks down why strategy—not execution—is the future battlefield of recruitment, and why staying nosy might be the smartest skill you’ve got.



Key Takeaways:


  Walkout music isn’t just fun—it signals candidate confidence, personality, and energy.

  Music bias is real, and it could be quietly shaping your hiring decisions.

  RPO is the misunderstood middle child between staffing and corporate recruiting.

  High RPO visibility = high expectations. Clients want ROI receipts.

  AI isn’t coming for recruiters—it’s already here and candidates are using it first.

  Recruiters must blend strategy with tech or get left behind.

  Execution is becoming table stakes. Strategy is where the war will be won.

  Continuous learning isn’t optional—relevance is a moving target.

  Industry events aren’t just schmooze fests—they’re insight goldmines.

  Curiosity isn’t a soft skill—it’s your recruiting superpower.




Timestamps:

00:00 – The Power of Walkout Music

 03:13 – Understanding Recruitment Process Outsourcing (RPO)

 06:12 – The Role of AI in Recruitment

 11:57 – Future of Recruiting: Strategy vs. Execution

 20:13 – Learning and Growth in Recruitment



IMAGE



This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  Mike Sunderland LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelsunderland1



Connect with Us:


    

William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



    

Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/




Connect with us on social:


    

Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com



    

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined



    

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined



    

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/



    

Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined



  Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>What’s your walkout song? If that question stumps you, you’re missing more than just a vibe check. In this convo, we get loud with Mike Sunderland from Hudson RPO as he rips into the unspoken power of walkout music, the overlooked layers of RPO, and how AI is quietly flipping recruiting on its head.</p>
<p>In this episode, we hit everything from the psychology of music in interviews to how AI tools are empowering candidates faster than employers can react. Mike breaks down why strategy—not execution—is the future battlefield of recruitment, and why staying nosy might be the smartest skill you’ve got.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Walkout music isn’t just fun—it signals candidate confidence, personality, and energy.</li>
  <li>Music bias is real, and it could be quietly shaping your hiring decisions.</li>
  <li>RPO is the misunderstood middle child between staffing and corporate recruiting.</li>
  <li>High RPO visibility = high expectations. Clients want ROI receipts.</li>
  <li>AI isn’t coming for recruiters—it’s already here and candidates are using it first.</li>
  <li>Recruiters must blend strategy with tech or get left behind.</li>
  <li>Execution is becoming table stakes. Strategy is where the war will be won.</li>
  <li>Continuous learning isn’t optional—relevance is a moving target.</li>
  <li>Industry events aren’t just schmooze fests—they’re insight goldmines.</li>
  <li>Curiosity isn’t a soft skill—it’s your recruiting superpower.</li>
</ul>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p>
<p>00:00 – The Power of Walkout Music</p>
<p> 03:13 – Understanding Recruitment Process Outsourcing (RPO)</p>
<p> 06:12 – The Role of AI in Recruitment</p>
<p> 11:57 – Future of Recruiting: Strategy vs. Execution</p>
<p> 20:13 – Learning and Growth in Recruitment</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>IMAGE</strong></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>This limited series was recorded live at the <strong>ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit</strong> from the <strong>Chatterworks</strong> booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by <strong>Chatterworks</strong>, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.</p>
<p><a href="https://chatterworks.com/"><u>Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with the guest:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Mike Sunderland LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelsunderland1"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelsunderland1</u></a>
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<li>Ryan Leary LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/</u></a>
</li>

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      <title>AI Just Took Your Job… Unless You’re Listening to This</title>
      <description>Recruiting isn’t dead—but the way we’ve been doing it might be. In this episode, we crack into how AI is shaking up the game, where humans still matter, and why that dude in Gen Z doesn’t care about your handshake. From awkward interview vibes to cutting-edge solutions at the latest industry events, this one hits hard.

In this episode we talk about AI in recruitment, sourcing innovations, human interaction, interview etiquette, and industry conference insights. From leveraging tech to understanding generational differences, we unpack what recruiters need to do to stay relevant, connected, and effective in today’s rapidly evolving hiring landscape.


















































This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  
Glenn Cathy LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/glencathey/



  
Website: https://booleanblackbelt.com/who-is-the-boolean-black-belt/






Connect with Us:


  
William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/






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      <itunes:title>AI Just Took Your Job… Unless You’re Listening to This</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Sharp tech, real talk, and zero tolerance for boring recruiting.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Recruiting isn’t dead—but the way we’ve been doing it might be. In this episode, we crack into how AI is shaking up the game, where humans still matter, and why that dude in Gen Z doesn’t care about your handshake. From awkward interview vibes to cutting-edge solutions at the latest industry events, this one hits hard.

In this episode we talk about AI in recruitment, sourcing innovations, human interaction, interview etiquette, and industry conference insights. From leveraging tech to understanding generational differences, we unpack what recruiters need to do to stay relevant, connected, and effective in today’s rapidly evolving hiring landscape.


















































This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  
Glenn Cathy LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/glencathey/



  
Website: https://booleanblackbelt.com/who-is-the-boolean-black-belt/






Connect with Us:


  
William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/






Connect with us on social:


  
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        <![CDATA[<p>Recruiting isn’t dead—but the way we’ve been doing it might be. In this episode, we crack into how AI is shaking up the game, where humans still matter, and why that dude in Gen Z doesn’t care about your handshake. From awkward interview vibes to cutting-edge solutions at the latest industry events, this one hits hard.</p>
<p>In this episode we talk about AI in recruitment, sourcing innovations, human interaction, interview etiquette, and industry conference insights. From leveraging tech to understanding generational differences, we unpack what recruiters need to do to stay relevant, connected, and effective in today’s rapidly evolving hiring landscape.</p>
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<p>This limited series was recorded live at the <strong>ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit</strong> from the <strong>Chatterworks</strong> booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by <strong>Chatterworks</strong>, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.</p>
<p><a href="https://chatterworks.com/"><u>Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with the guest:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>Glenn Cathy LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/glencathey/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/glencathey/</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Website: <a href="https://booleanblackbelt.com/who-is-the-boolean-black-belt/"><u>https://booleanblackbelt.com/who-is-the-boolean-black-belt/</u></a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with Us:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>William Tincup LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Ryan Leary LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/</u></a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with us on social:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>Site:<a href="http://www.wrkdefined.com"> <u>http://www.wrkdefined.com</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>TikTok:<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined"> <u>https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined</u></a></p>
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<p>LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined</u></a></p>
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      <title>Under the Hood of Global Recruiting: Melissa Thompson on Fixing Talent Acquisition</title>
      <description>What happens when global hiring meets Detroit horsepower? Melissa Thompson from Ford Motor Company breaks down the state of talent acquisition like a seasoned pit crew chief. From AI disruptions to recruiter burnout, she throws down insight after insight on where recruiting is heading—and what’s already broken.

In this episode we get under the hood with Melissa Thompson, Global TA lead at Ford. We talk recruitment tech, the real story behind quality-of-hire metrics, and why recruiters need more than just another shiny platform to succeed. She drops wisdom on the future of AI in TA and why hiring manager relationships might matter more than your ATS setup.



Key Takeaways:


  Melissa Thompson leads talent acquisition at Ford with a focus on more than just filling seats

  AI is part of the recruiting toolkit but it’s not the full solution

  Recruiters are exhausted because the systems they work in are broken

  Quality of hire metrics rarely capture the full value of TA work

  Real change in recruiting starts by listening to the people doing the job

  Ford isn’t just adding tech—it’s rethinking how recruiting should work

  Technology can elevate recruiters but it won’t replace them

  Strong partnerships between TA teams and hiring managers are non-negotiable

  Tools like ATS and CRM only matter if they’re used with intention

  Global recruiting faces different problems but the core challenges remain

  Learning and evolving are the only way forward for modern recruiters




Timestamps:

00:00 – Introduction and Excitement for Upcoming Events

03:08 – Global Talent Acquisition at Ford

05:58 – Recruitment Process Improvements

08:53 – Leveraging Technology in Recruitment

12:09 – AI in Recruitment and Its Impact

15:01 – Quality of Slate Metrics and Conclusion





This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  Melissa Thompson LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcthompson1/



Connect with Us:


    

William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



    

Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/




Connect with us on social:


    

Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com



    

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined



    

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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/



    

Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined


  Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2025 18:21:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Under the Hood of Global Recruiting: Melissa Thompson on Fixing Talent Acquisition</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Why real recruiting change starts with listening, not just tech</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>What happens when global hiring meets Detroit horsepower? Melissa Thompson from Ford Motor Company breaks down the state of talent acquisition like a seasoned pit crew chief. From AI disruptions to recruiter burnout, she throws down insight after insight on where recruiting is heading—and what’s already broken.

In this episode we get under the hood with Melissa Thompson, Global TA lead at Ford. We talk recruitment tech, the real story behind quality-of-hire metrics, and why recruiters need more than just another shiny platform to succeed. She drops wisdom on the future of AI in TA and why hiring manager relationships might matter more than your ATS setup.



Key Takeaways:


  Melissa Thompson leads talent acquisition at Ford with a focus on more than just filling seats

  AI is part of the recruiting toolkit but it’s not the full solution

  Recruiters are exhausted because the systems they work in are broken

  Quality of hire metrics rarely capture the full value of TA work

  Real change in recruiting starts by listening to the people doing the job

  Ford isn’t just adding tech—it’s rethinking how recruiting should work

  Technology can elevate recruiters but it won’t replace them

  Strong partnerships between TA teams and hiring managers are non-negotiable

  Tools like ATS and CRM only matter if they’re used with intention

  Global recruiting faces different problems but the core challenges remain

  Learning and evolving are the only way forward for modern recruiters




Timestamps:

00:00 – Introduction and Excitement for Upcoming Events

03:08 – Global Talent Acquisition at Ford

05:58 – Recruitment Process Improvements

08:53 – Leveraging Technology in Recruitment

12:09 – AI in Recruitment and Its Impact

15:01 – Quality of Slate Metrics and Conclusion





This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  Melissa Thompson LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcthompson1/



Connect with Us:


    

William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



    

Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/




Connect with us on social:


    

Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com



    

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined



    

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined



    

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/



    

Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined


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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>What happens when global hiring meets Detroit horsepower?</strong> Melissa Thompson from Ford Motor Company breaks down the state of talent acquisition like a seasoned pit crew chief. From AI disruptions to recruiter burnout, she throws down insight after insight on where recruiting is heading—and what’s already broken.</p>
<p><strong>In this episode we get under the hood with Melissa Thompson, Global TA lead at Ford.</strong> We talk recruitment tech, the real story behind quality-of-hire metrics, and why recruiters need more than just another shiny platform to succeed. She drops wisdom on the future of AI in TA and why hiring manager relationships might matter more than your ATS setup.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Melissa Thompson leads talent acquisition at Ford with a focus on more than just filling seats</li>
  <li>AI is part of the recruiting toolkit but it’s not the full solution</li>
  <li>Recruiters are exhausted because the systems they work in are broken</li>
  <li>Quality of hire metrics rarely capture the full value of TA work</li>
  <li>Real change in recruiting starts by listening to the people doing the job</li>
  <li>Ford isn’t just adding tech—it’s rethinking how recruiting should work</li>
  <li>Technology can elevate recruiters but it won’t replace them</li>
  <li>Strong partnerships between TA teams and hiring managers are non-negotiable</li>
  <li>Tools like ATS and CRM only matter if they’re used with intention</li>
  <li>Global recruiting faces different problems but the core challenges remain</li>
  <li>Learning and evolving are the only way forward for modern recruiters</li>
</ul>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p>
<p>00:00 – Introduction and Excitement for Upcoming Events</p>
<p>03:08 – Global Talent Acquisition at Ford</p>
<p>05:58 – Recruitment Process Improvements</p>
<p>08:53 – Leveraging Technology in Recruitment</p>
<p>12:09 – AI in Recruitment and Its Impact</p>
<p>15:01 – Quality of Slate Metrics and Conclusion</p>
<p><br><br></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>This limited series was recorded live at the <strong>ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit</strong> from the <strong>Chatterworks</strong> booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by <strong>Chatterworks</strong>, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.</p>
<p><a href="https://chatterworks.com/"><u>Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with the guest:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Melissa Thompson LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcthompson1/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/mcthompson1/</u></a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Us:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>  </li>
<li>William Tincup LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/</u></a>
</li>

  <li>  </li>
<li>Ryan Leary LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/</u></a>
</li>

</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with us on social:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>  </li>
<li>Site:<a href="http://www.wrkdefined.com"> <u>http://www.wrkdefined.com</u></a>
</li>

  <li>  </li>
<li>TikTok:<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined"> <u>https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined</u></a>
</li>

  <li>  </li>
<li>LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined</u></a>
</li>

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<li>Facebook:<a href="https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/"> <u>https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/</u></a>
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<li>Twitter (X):<a href="https://twitter.com/WRKdefined"> <u>https://twitter.com/WRKdefined</u></a>
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      <title>Stay Curious or Get Left Behind: Gerry Crispin on the Future of Work</title>
      <description>Have you ever met someone who just gets it? They travel, they ask questions, they listen. This one’s a ride through learning, global HR culture, and how AI is punching traditional recruiting right in the face. No lectures, just sharp takes and smarter conversations.

In this episode we explore the mindset of someone who never stops learning. Gerry Crispin, CEO and Founder or CareerXroads , stops by the booth to share his insight on pushing the boundaries to understanding workforce trends, to watching Gen Z weaponize AI for growth, it’s a conversation about keeping up, reaching out, and staying ahead. The world’s changing. Fast. Get in or get left behind.



Key Takeaways


  The people who keep learning stay in the game

  Travel changes how you lead, hire, and manage

  AI isn’t a trend — it’s the new coworker

  Candidates are tech-forward. Most orgs aren’t

  Gen Z is using AI like a secret weapon

  Conversations build more than connections — they build direction

  Change is speeding up. Resistance is a waste of time

  You don’t need to know everything — but you better keep asking

  Your worldview is only as big as the last place you visited

  Every conversation is a learning opportunity. Yes, even that one




Timestamps

00:00 Who is Gerry Crispin and  Lifelong Learning

04:02 Global Perspectives on Workforce Management

10:08 The Impact of AI on Recruitment

14:57 Learning from the Next Generation

20:13 Networking and Personal Growth

24:03 Navigating Change in a Rapidly Evolving World



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This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  Gerry Crispin LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerrycrispin/



Connect with Us:


    

William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



    

Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/




Connect with us on social:


    

Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com



    

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined



    

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined



    

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/



    

Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined



  Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2025 18:21:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Stay Curious or Get Left Behind: Gerry Crispin on the Future of Work</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>AI, travel, and the learners reshaping recruiting</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Have you ever met someone who just gets it? They travel, they ask questions, they listen. This one’s a ride through learning, global HR culture, and how AI is punching traditional recruiting right in the face. No lectures, just sharp takes and smarter conversations.

In this episode we explore the mindset of someone who never stops learning. Gerry Crispin, CEO and Founder or CareerXroads , stops by the booth to share his insight on pushing the boundaries to understanding workforce trends, to watching Gen Z weaponize AI for growth, it’s a conversation about keeping up, reaching out, and staying ahead. The world’s changing. Fast. Get in or get left behind.



Key Takeaways


  The people who keep learning stay in the game

  Travel changes how you lead, hire, and manage

  AI isn’t a trend — it’s the new coworker

  Candidates are tech-forward. Most orgs aren’t

  Gen Z is using AI like a secret weapon

  Conversations build more than connections — they build direction

  Change is speeding up. Resistance is a waste of time

  You don’t need to know everything — but you better keep asking

  Your worldview is only as big as the last place you visited

  Every conversation is a learning opportunity. Yes, even that one




Timestamps

00:00 Who is Gerry Crispin and  Lifelong Learning

04:02 Global Perspectives on Workforce Management

10:08 The Impact of AI on Recruitment

14:57 Learning from the Next Generation

20:13 Networking and Personal Growth

24:03 Navigating Change in a Rapidly Evolving World



IMAGE


This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  Gerry Crispin LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerrycrispin/



Connect with Us:


    

William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



    

Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/




Connect with us on social:


    

Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com



    

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined



    

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined



    

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/



    

Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined



  Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Have you ever met someone who just gets it? They travel, they ask questions, they listen. This one’s a ride through learning, global HR culture, and how AI is punching traditional recruiting right in the face. No lectures, just sharp takes and smarter conversations.</p>
<p>In this episode we explore the mindset of someone who never stops learning. Gerry Crispin, CEO and Founder or CareerXroads , stops by the booth to share his insight on pushing the boundaries to understanding workforce trends, to watching Gen Z weaponize AI for growth, it’s a conversation about keeping up, reaching out, and staying ahead. The world’s changing. Fast. Get in or get left behind.</p>
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<p><strong>Key Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>The people who keep learning stay in the game</li>
  <li>Travel changes how you lead, hire, and manage</li>
  <li>AI isn’t a trend — it’s the new coworker</li>
  <li>Candidates are tech-forward. Most orgs aren’t</li>
  <li>Gen Z is using AI like a secret weapon</li>
  <li>Conversations build more than connections — they build direction</li>
  <li>Change is speeding up. Resistance is a waste of time</li>
  <li>You don’t need to know everything — but you better keep asking</li>
  <li>Your worldview is only as big as the last place you visited</li>
  <li>Every conversation is a learning opportunity. Yes, even that one</li>
</ul>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Timestamps</strong></p>
<p>00:00 Who is Gerry Crispin and  Lifelong Learning</p>
<p>04:02 Global Perspectives on Workforce Management</p>
<p>10:08 The Impact of AI on Recruitment</p>
<p>14:57 Learning from the Next Generation</p>
<p>20:13 Networking and Personal Growth</p>
<p>24:03 Navigating Change in a Rapidly Evolving World</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>IMAGE
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<p>This limited series was recorded live at the <strong>ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit</strong> from the <strong>Chatterworks</strong> booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by <strong>Chatterworks</strong>, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.</p>
<p><a href="https://chatterworks.com/"><u>Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with the guest:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Gerry Crispin LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerrycrispin/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/gerrycrispin/</u></a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Us:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>  </li>
<li>William Tincup LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/</u></a>
</li>

  <li>  </li>
<li>Ryan Leary LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/</u></a>
</li>

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<p><strong>Connect with us on social:</strong></p>
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      <title>Why Most Recruiters Are About to Get Left Behind</title>
      <description>The recruiting game is shifting—and not everyone’s ready. In a no-BS conversation from the Recruiting Innovation Summit, Carmen Hudson joins William Tincup and Ryan Leary to break down what’s working, what’s outdated, and why being a recruiter in 2025 ain’t for the faint of heart. From AI’s role in hiring to the generational crash course happening in interview rooms, this episode is stacked with truth bombs and strategy.

In this episode we talk about the Recruiting Innovation Summit, Carmen Hudson’s new recruiting leadership role, technology in recruiting, generational differences in interviewing, and how AI is changing the future of work. Whether you’re a talent acquisition pro or just trying to keep your head above the HR tech wave, this one’s a must-listen.



Key Takeaways:

➡ Carmen Hudson is fired up about her new mission in recruiting innovation 

➡ Tech isn’t optional anymore—recruiters need to adapt or get out 

➡ Business fluency isn’t a bonus—it’s a baseline for talent advisors 

➡ Gen Z and Boomers interview very differently, and it’s breaking processes 

➡ Some recruiters are stuck in 2005—and it’s showing 

➡ AI might streamline recruiting, but don’t expect it to save every job 

➡ Candidate experience is finally being treated like a priority, not a buzzword 

➡ Efficiency + effectiveness = the new recruiter currency 

➡ Vendors are not the enemy—they’re strategic players in the ecosystem 

➡ The future of recruiting demands more skills, less ego



Timestamps:

00:00 –  Who is Carmen Hudson? 

02:55 – Carmen Hudson’s New Role and Insights 

05:55 – The Impact of Technology on Recruiting 

08:59 – Recruiters Adapting to Change 

11:58 – Generational Differences in Interviewing 

14:53 – Reflections on the Conference and Future of Recruiting



IMAGE



This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  
Carmen Hudson LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carmenhudson/



  
Podcast: https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/the-recruiting-book-club






Connect with Us:


  
William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/






Connect with us on social:


  
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      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2025 18:21:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Why Most Recruiters Are About to Get Left Behind</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>The tech’s changing. The people aren’t. Carmen Hudson calls it like it is.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The recruiting game is shifting—and not everyone’s ready. In a no-BS conversation from the Recruiting Innovation Summit, Carmen Hudson joins William Tincup and Ryan Leary to break down what’s working, what’s outdated, and why being a recruiter in 2025 ain’t for the faint of heart. From AI’s role in hiring to the generational crash course happening in interview rooms, this episode is stacked with truth bombs and strategy.

In this episode we talk about the Recruiting Innovation Summit, Carmen Hudson’s new recruiting leadership role, technology in recruiting, generational differences in interviewing, and how AI is changing the future of work. Whether you’re a talent acquisition pro or just trying to keep your head above the HR tech wave, this one’s a must-listen.



Key Takeaways:

➡ Carmen Hudson is fired up about her new mission in recruiting innovation 

➡ Tech isn’t optional anymore—recruiters need to adapt or get out 

➡ Business fluency isn’t a bonus—it’s a baseline for talent advisors 

➡ Gen Z and Boomers interview very differently, and it’s breaking processes 

➡ Some recruiters are stuck in 2005—and it’s showing 

➡ AI might streamline recruiting, but don’t expect it to save every job 

➡ Candidate experience is finally being treated like a priority, not a buzzword 

➡ Efficiency + effectiveness = the new recruiter currency 

➡ Vendors are not the enemy—they’re strategic players in the ecosystem 

➡ The future of recruiting demands more skills, less ego



Timestamps:

00:00 –  Who is Carmen Hudson? 

02:55 – Carmen Hudson’s New Role and Insights 

05:55 – The Impact of Technology on Recruiting 

08:59 – Recruiters Adapting to Change 

11:58 – Generational Differences in Interviewing 

14:53 – Reflections on the Conference and Future of Recruiting



IMAGE



This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  
Carmen Hudson LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carmenhudson/



  
Podcast: https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/the-recruiting-book-club






Connect with Us:


  
William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/






Connect with us on social:


  
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        <![CDATA[<p>The recruiting game is shifting—and not everyone’s ready. In a no-BS conversation from the Recruiting Innovation Summit, Carmen Hudson joins William Tincup and Ryan Leary to break down what’s working, what’s outdated, and why being a recruiter in 2025 ain’t for the faint of heart. From AI’s role in hiring to the generational crash course happening in interview rooms, this episode is stacked with truth bombs and strategy.</p>
<p>In this episode we talk about the Recruiting Innovation Summit, Carmen Hudson’s new recruiting leadership role, technology in recruiting, generational differences in interviewing, and how AI is changing the future of work. Whether you’re a talent acquisition pro or just trying to keep your head above the HR tech wave, this one’s a must-listen.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways:</strong></p>
<p>➡ Carmen Hudson is fired up about her new mission in recruiting innovation </p>
<p>➡ Tech isn’t optional anymore—recruiters need to adapt or get out </p>
<p>➡ Business fluency isn’t a bonus—it’s a baseline for talent advisors </p>
<p>➡ Gen Z and Boomers interview <em>very</em> differently, and it’s breaking processes </p>
<p>➡ Some recruiters are stuck in 2005—and it’s showing </p>
<p>➡ AI might streamline recruiting, but don’t expect it to save every job </p>
<p>➡ Candidate experience is finally being treated like a priority, not a buzzword </p>
<p>➡ Efficiency + effectiveness = the new recruiter currency </p>
<p>➡ Vendors are not the enemy—they’re strategic players in the ecosystem </p>
<p>➡ The future of recruiting demands more skills, less ego</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p>
<p>00:00 –  Who is Carmen Hudson? </p>
<p>02:55 – Carmen Hudson’s New Role and Insights </p>
<p>05:55 – The Impact of Technology on Recruiting </p>
<p>08:59 – Recruiters Adapting to Change </p>
<p>11:58 – Generational Differences in Interviewing </p>
<p>14:53 – Reflections on the Conference and Future of Recruiting</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>IMAGE</strong></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>This limited series was recorded live at the <strong>ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit</strong> from the <strong>Chatterworks</strong> booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by <strong>Chatterworks</strong>, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.</p>
<p><a href="https://chatterworks.com/"><u>Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with the guest:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>Carmen Hudson LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/carmenhudson/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/carmenhudson/</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Podcast: <a href="https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/the-recruiting-book-club"><u>https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/the-recruiting-book-club</u></a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with Us:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>William Tincup LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Ryan Leary LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/</u></a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with us on social:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>Site:<a href="http://www.wrkdefined.com"> <u>http://www.wrkdefined.com</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>TikTok:<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined"> <u>https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined</u></a></p>
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      <title>How Industry Events Can Make (or Break) Your Career with Jim Stroud of Sourecon</title>
      <description>Ever been to an event where you leave smarter and with better memes? That’s SourceCon and the Recruiting Innovation Summit rolled into one chaotic, inspiring, laugh-out-loud ride. From side-eyes in the audience to post-panel epiphanies, we’re unpacking what it really means to stay sharp in recruiting—and why “fighting for your right” might just be your best career strategy.

In this episode we talk about SourceCon, Recruiting Innovation Summit, interviewing techniques, generational differences, networking wins, and professional development fails. We dig into how humor plays a role in serious recruiting conversations and what you really gain from attending industry events.



Key Takeaways:

 ➡ Humor isn’t optional—it's survival fuel in the recruiting world

 ➡ Your next big opportunity? Probably hiding in a hallway convo

 ➡ Staying relevant isn’t a buzzword—it’s your career oxygen

 ➡ Interviewing styles are changing, especially across generations

 ➡ The best sessions give you “WTF” moments and take-home resources

 ➡ Colleague text threads: the unfiltered pulse of industry reality

 ➡ Expect revelations, not just swag, from top events

 ➡ Interviewers need to meet candidates where they are

 ➡ Collaboration &gt; Competition—every time

 ➡ Generational gaps are real and show up fast in interviews

 ➡ Humor is the ultimate connector in a professional setting



Timestamps:

 00:00 — Introduction and Initial Banter

 02:49 — The SourceCon Experience

 05:59 — Favorite Sessions and Advice from Experts

 08:58 — Interviewing Techniques and Generational Differences

 11:48 — Expectations from the Recruiting Innovation Summit



IMAGE


This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  
Jim Stroud LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimstroud/



  
Website: https://www.ere.net/






Connect with Us:


  
William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/






Connect with us on social:


  
Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com



  
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      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2025 18:21:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>How Industry Events Can Make (or Break) Your Career with Jim Stroud of Sourecon</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Snark, smarts, and some damn good advice from the conference floor.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Ever been to an event where you leave smarter and with better memes? That’s SourceCon and the Recruiting Innovation Summit rolled into one chaotic, inspiring, laugh-out-loud ride. From side-eyes in the audience to post-panel epiphanies, we’re unpacking what it really means to stay sharp in recruiting—and why “fighting for your right” might just be your best career strategy.

In this episode we talk about SourceCon, Recruiting Innovation Summit, interviewing techniques, generational differences, networking wins, and professional development fails. We dig into how humor plays a role in serious recruiting conversations and what you really gain from attending industry events.



Key Takeaways:

 ➡ Humor isn’t optional—it's survival fuel in the recruiting world

 ➡ Your next big opportunity? Probably hiding in a hallway convo

 ➡ Staying relevant isn’t a buzzword—it’s your career oxygen

 ➡ Interviewing styles are changing, especially across generations

 ➡ The best sessions give you “WTF” moments and take-home resources

 ➡ Colleague text threads: the unfiltered pulse of industry reality

 ➡ Expect revelations, not just swag, from top events

 ➡ Interviewers need to meet candidates where they are

 ➡ Collaboration &gt; Competition—every time

 ➡ Generational gaps are real and show up fast in interviews

 ➡ Humor is the ultimate connector in a professional setting



Timestamps:

 00:00 — Introduction and Initial Banter

 02:49 — The SourceCon Experience

 05:59 — Favorite Sessions and Advice from Experts

 08:58 — Interviewing Techniques and Generational Differences

 11:48 — Expectations from the Recruiting Innovation Summit



IMAGE


This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  
Jim Stroud LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimstroud/



  
Website: https://www.ere.net/






Connect with Us:


  
William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/






Connect with us on social:


  
Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com



  
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined



  
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Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined



  
Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Ever been to an event where you leave smarter <em>and</em> with better memes? That’s SourceCon and the Recruiting Innovation Summit rolled into one chaotic, inspiring, laugh-out-loud ride. From side-eyes in the audience to post-panel epiphanies, we’re unpacking what it really means to stay sharp in recruiting—and why “fighting for your right” might just be your best career strategy.</p>
<p>In this episode we talk about SourceCon, Recruiting Innovation Summit, interviewing techniques, generational differences, networking wins, and professional development fails. We dig into how humor plays a role in serious recruiting conversations and what you <em>really</em> gain from attending industry events.

</p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways:</strong></p>
<p> ➡ Humor isn’t optional—it's survival fuel in the recruiting world</p>
<p> ➡ Your next big opportunity? Probably hiding in a hallway convo</p>
<p> ➡ Staying relevant isn’t a buzzword—it’s your career oxygen</p>
<p> ➡ Interviewing styles are changing, especially across generations</p>
<p> ➡ The best sessions give you “WTF” moments and take-home resources</p>
<p> ➡ Colleague text threads: the unfiltered pulse of industry reality</p>
<p> ➡ Expect revelations, not just swag, from top events</p>
<p> ➡ Interviewers need to meet candidates where they are</p>
<p> ➡ Collaboration &gt; Competition—every time</p>
<p> ➡ Generational gaps are real and show up fast in interviews</p>
<p> ➡ Humor is the ultimate connector in a professional setting</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p>
<p> 00:00 — Introduction and Initial Banter</p>
<p> 02:49 — The SourceCon Experience</p>
<p> 05:59 — Favorite Sessions and Advice from Experts</p>
<p> 08:58 — Interviewing Techniques and Generational Differences</p>
<p> 11:48 — Expectations from the Recruiting Innovation Summit</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>IMAGE
</strong></p>
<p>This limited series was recorded live at the <strong>ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit</strong> from the <strong>Chatterworks</strong> booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by <strong>Chatterworks</strong>, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.</p>
<p><a href="https://chatterworks.com/"><u>Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with the guest:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>Jim Stroud LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimstroud/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimstroud/</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Website: <a href="https://www.ere.net/"><u>https://www.ere.net/</u></a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with Us:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>William Tincup LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Ryan Leary LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/</u></a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with us on social:</strong></p>
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  <li>
<p>TikTok:<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined"> <u>https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined</u></a></p>
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<p>Facebook:<a href="https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/"> <u>https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/</u></a></p>
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</li>
  <li>
<p>Substack:<a href="https://wrkdefined.substack.com/"> <u>https://wrkdefined.substack.com/</u></a><br></p>
</li>
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      <title>Killing Resumes and Cracking Funnels</title>
      <description>AI isn’t just another tool—it’s changing the damn rules. In this episode, we pull back the curtain with Chris Cabe from Capstone IT to talk recruiting tech, killer candidate evals, and why your resume is basically a zombie at this point. If you’re still relying on vibe checks and keyword still 2015, this is your wake-up call.

In this episode we talk about recruiting, AI, candidate evaluation, staffing, hiring tools, and innovation in the recruitment process. Chris Cabe from Capstone IT drops real-world insights on how recruiters can level up in the age of AI—why resumes are losing relevance, how to spot actual skills, and why collaboration is the next competitive edge in recruiting.



Key Takeaways:

 ➡ AI is flipping the recruiting script—old habits are dying fast

 ➡ Resumes? Basically relics. Most are AI-written anyway

 ➡ Motivation matters more than what’s on paper

 ➡ The recruiting process works best when visualized as a funnel

 ➡ Networking is now a cheat code for recruiter growth

 ➡ Candidates are gaming the system with AI—watch out

 ➡ Technical skill checks require smart, layered questions

 ➡ Sourcing ≠ Recruiting—don’t confuse the two

 ➡ Your tech stack can make or break hiring velocity

 ➡ Events like the Recruiting Innovation Summit offer unmatched insight and connections

 ➡ You’re not competing alone—recruiters need to share and learn, fast



Timestamps:

 00:00 - Who is Chris?

 05:57 - The Impact of AI on Recruiting

 11:55 - Navigating Candidate Evaluation

 13:47 - Insights from the Recruiting Innovation Summit



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This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  
Chris Cabe LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-cabe-2533b889/



  
Website: https://www.linkedin.com/company/capstone-it-omaha-kansas-city-slc/






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William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/






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      <itunes:title>Killing Resumes and Cracking Funnels</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Where tech meets truth in recruiting</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>AI isn’t just another tool—it’s changing the damn rules. In this episode, we pull back the curtain with Chris Cabe from Capstone IT to talk recruiting tech, killer candidate evals, and why your resume is basically a zombie at this point. If you’re still relying on vibe checks and keyword still 2015, this is your wake-up call.

In this episode we talk about recruiting, AI, candidate evaluation, staffing, hiring tools, and innovation in the recruitment process. Chris Cabe from Capstone IT drops real-world insights on how recruiters can level up in the age of AI—why resumes are losing relevance, how to spot actual skills, and why collaboration is the next competitive edge in recruiting.



Key Takeaways:

 ➡ AI is flipping the recruiting script—old habits are dying fast

 ➡ Resumes? Basically relics. Most are AI-written anyway

 ➡ Motivation matters more than what’s on paper

 ➡ The recruiting process works best when visualized as a funnel

 ➡ Networking is now a cheat code for recruiter growth

 ➡ Candidates are gaming the system with AI—watch out

 ➡ Technical skill checks require smart, layered questions

 ➡ Sourcing ≠ Recruiting—don’t confuse the two

 ➡ Your tech stack can make or break hiring velocity

 ➡ Events like the Recruiting Innovation Summit offer unmatched insight and connections

 ➡ You’re not competing alone—recruiters need to share and learn, fast



Timestamps:

 00:00 - Who is Chris?

 05:57 - The Impact of AI on Recruiting

 11:55 - Navigating Candidate Evaluation

 13:47 - Insights from the Recruiting Innovation Summit



IMAGE



This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  
Chris Cabe LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-cabe-2533b889/



  
Website: https://www.linkedin.com/company/capstone-it-omaha-kansas-city-slc/






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William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/






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        <![CDATA[<p>AI isn’t just another tool—it’s changing the damn rules. In this episode, we pull back the curtain with Chris Cabe from Capstone IT to talk recruiting tech, killer candidate evals, and why your resume is basically a zombie at this point. If you’re still relying on vibe checks and keyword still 2015, this is your wake-up call.</p>
<p>In this episode we talk about recruiting, AI, candidate evaluation, staffing, hiring tools, and innovation in the recruitment process. Chris Cabe from Capstone IT drops real-world insights on how recruiters can level up in the age of AI—why resumes are losing relevance, how to spot actual skills, and why collaboration is the next competitive edge in recruiting.</p>
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<p><strong>Key Takeaways:</strong></p>
<p> ➡ AI is flipping the recruiting script—old habits are dying fast</p>
<p> ➡ Resumes? Basically relics. Most are AI-written anyway</p>
<p> ➡ Motivation matters more than what’s on paper</p>
<p> ➡ The recruiting process works best when visualized as a funnel</p>
<p> ➡ Networking is now a cheat code for recruiter growth</p>
<p> ➡ Candidates are gaming the system with AI—watch out</p>
<p> ➡ Technical skill checks require smart, layered questions</p>
<p> ➡ Sourcing ≠ Recruiting—don’t confuse the two</p>
<p> ➡ Your tech stack can make or break hiring velocity</p>
<p> ➡ Events like the Recruiting Innovation Summit offer unmatched insight and connections</p>
<p> ➡ You’re not competing alone—recruiters need to share and learn, fast</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p>
<p> 00:00 - Who is Chris?</p>
<p> 05:57 - The Impact of AI on Recruiting</p>
<p> 11:55 - Navigating Candidate Evaluation</p>
<p> 13:47 - Insights from the Recruiting Innovation Summit</p>
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<p>This limited series was recorded live at the <strong>ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit</strong> from the <strong>Chatterworks</strong> booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by <strong>Chatterworks</strong>, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.</p>
<p><a href="https://chatterworks.com/"><u>Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with the guest:</strong></p>
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  <li>
<p>Chris Cabe LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-cabe-2533b889/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-cabe-2533b889/</u></a></p>
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<p>Website: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/company/capstone-it-omaha-kansas-city-slc/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/company/capstone-it-omaha-kansas-city-slc/</u></a></p>
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<p>William Tincup LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Ryan Leary LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/</u></a></p>
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      <title>Stop Blaming Candidates. Fix Your Broken HR Process with Joel Lagee</title>
      <description>Let’s get real: the recruitment game has changed, and most folks are still playing by 2012 rules. From botched interviews to leaders stuck in dial-up era thinking, this episode pulls back the curtain on the real friction points in HR and recruiting.

In this episode we talk about HR, recruitment, technology, job seeking, interviews, and AI. We explore how candidates are using tools to outsmart outdated hiring processes, why leadership often misreads its own challenges, and how consulting—with the right lens—can shift outcomes. Plus, the raw truth about networking, social media’s silent influence, and why hiring today isn’t about résumés, it’s about relevance.










































This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



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Joel Lagee LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joellalgee/



  
Website: https://linktr.ee/Joellalgee






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Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2025 18:21:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Stop Blaming Candidates. Fix Your Broken HR Process with Joel Lagee</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>HR’s got problems, candidates have tech, and your interview questions still suck</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Let’s get real: the recruitment game has changed, and most folks are still playing by 2012 rules. From botched interviews to leaders stuck in dial-up era thinking, this episode pulls back the curtain on the real friction points in HR and recruiting.

In this episode we talk about HR, recruitment, technology, job seeking, interviews, and AI. We explore how candidates are using tools to outsmart outdated hiring processes, why leadership often misreads its own challenges, and how consulting—with the right lens—can shift outcomes. Plus, the raw truth about networking, social media’s silent influence, and why hiring today isn’t about résumés, it’s about relevance.










































This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  
Joel Lagee LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joellalgee/



  
Website: https://linktr.ee/Joellalgee






Connect with Us:


  
William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/



  
Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/






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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Let’s get real: the recruitment game has changed, and most folks are still playing by 2012 rules. From botched interviews to leaders stuck in dial-up era thinking, this episode pulls back the curtain on the real friction points in HR and recruiting.</p>
<p>In this episode we talk about HR, recruitment, technology, job seeking, interviews, and AI. We explore how candidates are using tools to outsmart outdated hiring processes, why leadership often misreads its own challenges, and how consulting—with the right lens—can shift outcomes. Plus, the raw truth about networking, social media’s silent influence, and why hiring today isn’t about résumés, it’s about relevance.</p>
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<p>This limited series was recorded live at the <strong>ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit</strong> from the <strong>Chatterworks</strong> booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by <strong>Chatterworks</strong>, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.</p>
<p><a href="https://chatterworks.com/"><u>Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with the guest:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>Joel Lagee LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/joellalgee/"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/joellalgee/</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Website: <a href="https://linktr.ee/Joellalgee"><u>https://linktr.ee/Joellalgee</u></a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with Us:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>William Tincup LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Ryan Leary LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/</u></a></p>
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      <title>Burn Your Resume, Build Relationships with Susan LaMotte CEO @ exaqueo</title>
      <description>Let’s be honest—recruitment’s been transactional for too long. Susan LaMotte, founder and CEO of exaqueo, came through to call that out and drop some truth bombs about how hiring actually works when it works. Forget automation overload and resume graveyards—this one’s about building trust, reading the room, and doing it better.

In this episode we dig into the human side of recruitment and how employer branding isn’t just a buzzword—it’s your business card. Susan breaks down why relationships matter more than ever, how AI fits without replacing empathy, and why career sites need to stop sucking. If your hiring feels broken, this convo might just fix your head.



Key Takeaways:


  exaqueo flips the script by making relationships the strategy

  Consulting that doesn’t build trust falls flat

  Career sites should serve candidates not just market jobs

  Resumes still matter but need the right context

  Recruitment works best when it’s treated like a relationship

  AI should support human connection not replace it

  Understanding your candidate audience is non-negotiable

  Great recruiters lead with empathy not transactions

  Tech should power strategy not become the strategy

  Industry insights are critical to staying ahead in hiring




Timestamps:

00:00 – Introduction to exaqueo and Employer Branding

02:51 – Consulting Dynamics and Building Trust

05:59 – The Evolution of Career Sites and Candidate Experience

09:02 – Resumes: Relevance in a Digital Age

11:46 – The Importance of Relationships in Recruitment

15:02 – AI's Impact on Recruitment Strategies

17:57 – Industry Insights and Future Directions





This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  Susan LaMotte LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/susanlamotte



Connect with Us:


  William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/


  Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/



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  Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2025 18:20:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Burn Your Resume, Build Relationships with Susan LaMotte CEO @ exaqueo</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Let’s be honest—recruitment’s been transactional for too long. Susan LaMotte, founder and CEO of exaqueo, came through to call that out and drop some truth bombs about how hiring actually works when it works. Forget automation overload and resume graveyards—this one’s about building trust, reading the room, and doing it better.

In this episode we dig into the human side of recruitment and how employer branding isn’t just a buzzword—it’s your business card. Susan breaks down why relationships matter more than ever, how AI fits without replacing empathy, and why career sites need to stop sucking. If your hiring feels broken, this convo might just fix your head.



Key Takeaways:


  exaqueo flips the script by making relationships the strategy

  Consulting that doesn’t build trust falls flat

  Career sites should serve candidates not just market jobs

  Resumes still matter but need the right context

  Recruitment works best when it’s treated like a relationship

  AI should support human connection not replace it

  Understanding your candidate audience is non-negotiable

  Great recruiters lead with empathy not transactions

  Tech should power strategy not become the strategy

  Industry insights are critical to staying ahead in hiring




Timestamps:

00:00 – Introduction to exaqueo and Employer Branding

02:51 – Consulting Dynamics and Building Trust

05:59 – The Evolution of Career Sites and Candidate Experience

09:02 – Resumes: Relevance in a Digital Age

11:46 – The Importance of Relationships in Recruitment

15:02 – AI's Impact on Recruitment Strategies

17:57 – Industry Insights and Future Directions





This limited series was recorded live at the ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit from the Chatterworks booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by Chatterworks, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.

Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/



Connect with the guest:


  Susan LaMotte LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/susanlamotte



Connect with Us:


  William Tincup LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/


  Ryan Leary LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/



Connect with us on social:


  Site: http://www.wrkdefined.com


  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@wrkdefined


  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/wrkdefined


  Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WRKdefined/


  Twitter (X): https://twitter.com/WRKdefined


  Substack: https://wrkdefined.substack.com/</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Let’s be honest—recruitment’s been transactional for too long. Susan LaMotte, founder and CEO of exaqueo, came through to call that out and drop some truth bombs about how hiring actually works when it <em>works</em>. Forget automation overload and resume graveyards—this one’s about building trust, reading the room, and doing it better.</p>
<p>In this episode we dig into the human side of recruitment and how employer branding isn’t just a buzzword—it’s your business card. Susan breaks down why relationships matter more than ever, how AI fits <em>without</em> replacing empathy, and why career sites need to stop sucking. If your hiring feels broken, this convo might just fix your head.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Key Takeaways:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>exaqueo flips the script by making relationships the strategy</li>
  <li>Consulting that doesn’t build trust falls flat</li>
  <li>Career sites should serve candidates not just market jobs</li>
  <li>Resumes still matter but need the right context</li>
  <li>Recruitment works best when it’s treated like a relationship</li>
  <li>AI should support human connection not replace it</li>
  <li>Understanding your candidate audience is non-negotiable</li>
  <li>Great recruiters lead with empathy not transactions</li>
  <li>Tech should power strategy not become the strategy</li>
  <li>Industry insights are critical to staying ahead in hiring</li>
</ul>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p>
<p>00:00 – Introduction to exaqueo and Employer Branding</p>
<p>02:51 – Consulting Dynamics and Building Trust</p>
<p>05:59 – The Evolution of Career Sites and Candidate Experience</p>
<p>09:02 – Resumes: Relevance in a Digital Age</p>
<p>11:46 – The Importance of Relationships in Recruitment</p>
<p>15:02 – AI's Impact on Recruitment Strategies</p>
<p>17:57 – Industry Insights and Future Directions</p>
<p><br><br></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>This limited series was recorded live at the <strong>ERE Recruiting Innovation Summit</strong> from the <strong>Chatterworks</strong> booth on the expo floor. We sat down with 20 Recruiting and TA leaders from around the world to hear what today’s best recruiters are doing to stay sharp, stay relevant, and stay ahead. Powered by <strong>Chatterworks</strong>, the platform that helps recruiters transform the way they connect with top talent.</p>
<p><a href="https://chatterworks.com/"><u>Learn more about Chatterworks here: https://chatterworks.com/</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Connect with the guest:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Susan LaMotte LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/susanlamotte"><u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/susanlamotte</u></a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with Us:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>William Tincup LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/tincup/</u></a>
</li>
  <li>Ryan Leary LinkedIn:<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/"> <u>https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryanleary/</u></a>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Connect with us on social:</strong></p>
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