Talentless https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/talentless en-us All rights reserved by WRKdefined Welcome to Talentless 👋, the podcast that’s all HR, all talent, and zero fluff—the official show for recruiters, by recruiters! If you’re in the people business, this is your one-stop shop for everything that matters. Hosted Industry Leaders Ashley King and Desiree Goldey, we’re here to dig into the heart of what makes workplaces tick (and sometimes, blow up). From talent acquisition tips that actually work to the real talk on DEI and workforce trauma reshaping our industry, we’re not afraid to get into the messy, the meaningful, and the downright motivating. Buckle up—this is where you become the best in the business. https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/b7c664d6-68a5-11f0-bce8-778dd31d8e85/image/0b766a52f3daa2506061bd6ee3762af8.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress Talentless https://wrkdefined.com/podcast/talentless no episodic Powered by the WRKdefined Podcast Network WRKdefined Podcast Network Welcome to Talentless 👋, the podcast that’s all HR, all talent, and zero fluff—the official show for recruiters, by recruiters! If you’re in the people business, this is your one-stop shop for everything that matters. Hosted Industry Leaders Ashley King and Desiree Goldey, we’re here to dig into the heart of what makes workplaces tick (and sometimes, blow up). From talent acquisition tips that actually work to the real talk on DEI and workforce trauma reshaping our industry, we’re not afraid to get into the messy, the meaningful, and the downright motivating. Buckle up—this is where you become the best in the business. Welcome to Talentless 👋, the podcast that’s all HR, all talent, and zero fluff—the official show for recruiters, by recruiters! If you’re in the people business, this is your one-stop shop for everything that matters. Hosted Industry Leaders Ashley King and Desiree Goldey, we’re here to dig into the heart of what makes workplaces tick (and sometimes, blow up). From talent acquisition tips that actually work to the real talk on DEI and workforce trauma reshaping our industry, we’re not afraid to get into the messy, the meaningful, and the downright motivating. Buckle up—this is where you become the best in the business.

]]> WRKdefined WRKdefined@gmail.com Ghosted by the Machine: What Hiring Lost (and How We Get It Back) with Mark Lane What happens when hiring becomes automated, impersonal, and frankly broken? This week on Talentless, Desiree and Ashley sit down with communications strategist and Ghosted by the Machine host, Mark Lane, to unpack what job seekers are really experiencing right now and what recruiters need to hear. From being ghosted for months (or a year ) to competing against AI-generated resumes, this conversation dives into the emotional, systemic, and technological realities shaping today’s hiring market. Whether you're a recruiter, hiring leader, or job seeker, this episode is a reality check. What We Cover: Why 70–75% of resumes never get seen by a human The rise (and risks) of AI in hiring Ghosting, rejection delays, and broken candidate experiences The emotional toll of job searching in today’s market Why networking is more critical than ever Ageism, overqualification, and market saturation The power of storytelling in landing your next role What “career resilience” actually looks like right now The ONE thing recruiters must do better (hint: it’s simple) Key Quotes: “Your AI is competing against my AI.” “It’s not personal, it’s the market.” “If you don’t like what you’re consuming, stop creating it.” “Let’s make hiring human again.” About Mark Lane:Mark Lane is a communications strategist and host of Ghosted by the Machine, a podcast exploring AI-driven hiring and career resilience. With 20+ years of experience, he brings a unique blend of storytelling, strategy, and real-world perspective to the future of work. Also… he’s a saxophonist in multiple bands (yes, really). Where to Find Mark:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-k-lane/Podcast: Ghosted by the Machine (YouTube, Apple, Spotify, iHeart) Wed, 08 Apr 2026 20:18:00 -0000 full WRKdefined Podcast Network What happens when hiring becomes automated, impersonal, and frankly broken? This week on Talentless, Desiree and Ashley sit down with communications strategist and Ghosted by the Machine host, Mark Lane, to unpack what job seekers are really experiencing right now and what recruiters need to hear. From being ghosted for months (or a year ) to competing against AI-generated resumes, this conversation dives into the emotional, systemic, and technological realities shaping today’s hiring market. Whether you're a recruiter, hiring leader, or job seeker, this episode is a reality check. What We Cover: Why 70–75% of resumes never get seen by a human The rise (and risks) of AI in hiring Ghosting, rejection delays, and broken candidate experiences The emotional toll of job searching in today’s market Why networking is more critical than ever Ageism, overqualification, and market saturation The power of storytelling in landing your next role What “career resilience” actually looks like right now The ONE thing recruiters must do better (hint: it’s simple) Key Quotes: “Your AI is competing against my AI.” “It’s not personal, it’s the market.” “If you don’t like what you’re consuming, stop creating it.” “Let’s make hiring human again.” About Mark Lane:Mark Lane is a communications strategist and host of Ghosted by the Machine, a podcast exploring AI-driven hiring and career resilience. With 20+ years of experience, he brings a unique blend of storytelling, strategy, and real-world perspective to the future of work. Also… he’s a saxophonist in multiple bands (yes, really). Where to Find Mark:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-k-lane/Podcast: Ghosted by the Machine (YouTube, Apple, Spotify, iHeart) What happens when hiring becomes automated, impersonal, and frankly broken?

This week on Talentless, Desiree and Ashley sit down with communications strategist and Ghosted by the Machine host, Mark Lane, to unpack what job seekers are really experiencing right now and what recruiters need to hear.

From being ghosted for months (or a year ) to competing against AI-generated resumes, this conversation dives into the emotional, systemic, and technological realities shaping today’s hiring market.

Whether you're a recruiter, hiring leader, or job seeker, this episode is a reality check.


What We Cover:

  • Why 70–75% of resumes never get seen by a human

  • The rise (and risks) of AI in hiring

  • Ghosting, rejection delays, and broken candidate experiences

  • The emotional toll of job searching in today’s market

  • Why networking is more critical than ever

  • Ageism, overqualification, and market saturation

  • The power of storytelling in landing your next role

  • What “career resilience” actually looks like right now

  • The ONE thing recruiters must do better (hint: it’s simple)



Key Quotes:

  • “Your AI is competing against my AI.”

  • “It’s not personal, it’s the market.”

  • “If you don’t like what you’re consuming, stop creating it.”

  • “Let’s make hiring human again.”



About Mark Lane:Mark Lane is a communications strategist and host of Ghosted by the Machine, a podcast exploring AI-driven hiring and career resilience. With 20+ years of experience, he brings a unique blend of storytelling, strategy, and real-world perspective to the future of work.

Also… he’s a saxophonist in multiple bands (yes, really).



Where to Find Mark:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-k-lane/Podcast: Ghosted by the Machine (YouTube, Apple, Spotify, iHeart)


]]> 2930 no Is Interviewing Broken… or Just Exposed? In this episode of Talentless, we’re joined by Victoria Gates and Lorna Erickson; co-founders of Expert Interviewers and hosts of the Don’t Tell Me About Yourself podcast to unpack a truth many companies don’t want to hear: Interviewing isn’t broken because of AI… it was already broken. AI is just exposing it. From gut-based hiring decisions to untrained interviewers and wildly inconsistent processes, we dig into what’s actually going wrong and what it takes to fix it. We cover: Why most interviews are just opinion collection, not evidence collection How AI is forcing companies to confront nonexplainable hiring decisions The dangerous reliance on “gut feeling” (and why it feels so good but fails so often) The difference between “can they do the job?” vs. “do they actually want the job?” Why hiring managers are often the weakest link in the process The real cost of a bad hire (spoiler: it’s way more than salary) How to identify where your interview process is breaking using data Plus:Ashley breaks down how to diagnose a broken hiring funnel using pass-through rates, and introduces one of the most underrated concepts in hiring: assessing the assessor. AI isn’t breaking hiring it’s exposing bad processes Most companies still don’t train interviewers (and it shows) Gut feeling ≠ valid hiring criteria Transparency with candidates is now non-negotiable Interviewing is a leadership skill not an assumption If your process isn’t explainable, it’s not defensible Victoria GatesHas hired 1,500+ people and specializes in helping leaders refine interviewing and better respect candidate time. Lorna EricksonSpent nearly 20 years studying what actually works in interviewing, with 5,000+ interviews analyzed and global training experience. Together, they founded Expert Interviewers to bring structure, consistency, and sanity back to hiring. Key Takeaways About Our Guests Website: https://expertinterviewers.com Podcast: Don’t Tell Me About Yourself Social: @expertinterviewers Wed, 01 Apr 2026 18:34:00 -0000 full WRKdefined Podcast Network In this episode of Talentless, we’re joined by Victoria Gates and Lorna Erickson; co-founders of Expert Interviewers and hosts of the Don’t Tell Me About Yourself podcast to unpack a truth many companies don’t want to hear: Interviewing isn’t broken because of AI… it was already broken. AI is just exposing it. From gut-based hiring decisions to untrained interviewers and wildly inconsistent processes, we dig into what’s actually going wrong and what it takes to fix it. We cover: Why most interviews are just opinion collection, not evidence collection How AI is forcing companies to confront nonexplainable hiring decisions The dangerous reliance on “gut feeling” (and why it feels so good but fails so often) The difference between “can they do the job?” vs. “do they actually want the job?” Why hiring managers are often the weakest link in the process The real cost of a bad hire (spoiler: it’s way more than salary) How to identify where your interview process is breaking using data Plus:Ashley breaks down how to diagnose a broken hiring funnel using pass-through rates, and introduces one of the most underrated concepts in hiring: assessing the assessor. AI isn’t breaking hiring it’s exposing bad processes Most companies still don’t train interviewers (and it shows) Gut feeling ≠ valid hiring criteria Transparency with candidates is now non-negotiable Interviewing is a leadership skill not an assumption If your process isn’t explainable, it’s not defensible Victoria GatesHas hired 1,500+ people and specializes in helping leaders refine interviewing and better respect candidate time. Lorna EricksonSpent nearly 20 years studying what actually works in interviewing, with 5,000+ interviews analyzed and global training experience. Together, they founded Expert Interviewers to bring structure, consistency, and sanity back to hiring. Key Takeaways About Our Guests Website: https://expertinterviewers.com Podcast: Don’t Tell Me About Yourself Social: @expertinterviewers In this episode of Talentless, we’re joined by Victoria Gates and Lorna Erickson; co-founders of Expert Interviewers and hosts of the Don’t Tell Me About Yourself podcast to unpack a truth many companies don’t want to hear:

Interviewing isn’t broken because of AI… it was already broken. AI is just exposing it.

From gut-based hiring decisions to untrained interviewers and wildly inconsistent processes, we dig into what’s actually going wrong and what it takes to fix it.

We cover:

  • Why most interviews are just opinion collection, not evidence collection

  • How AI is forcing companies to confront nonexplainable hiring decisions

  • The dangerous reliance on “gut feeling” (and why it feels so good but fails so often)

  • The difference between “can they do the job?” vs. “do they actually want the job?”

  • Why hiring managers are often the weakest link in the process

  • The real cost of a bad hire (spoiler: it’s way more than salary)

  • How to identify where your interview process is breaking using data

Plus:Ashley breaks down how to diagnose a broken hiring funnel using pass-through rates, and introduces one of the most underrated concepts in hiring: assessing the assessor.


  • AI isn’t breaking hiring it’s exposing bad processes

  • Most companies still don’t train interviewers (and it shows)

  • Gut feeling ≠ valid hiring criteria

  • Transparency with candidates is now non-negotiable

  • Interviewing is a leadership skill not an assumption

  • If your process isn’t explainable, it’s not defensible

Victoria GatesHas hired 1,500+ people and specializes in helping leaders refine interviewing and better respect candidate time.

Lorna EricksonSpent nearly 20 years studying what actually works in interviewing, with 5,000+ interviews analyzed and global training experience.

Together, they founded Expert Interviewers to bring structure, consistency, and sanity back to hiring.

Key Takeaways About Our Guests Website: https://expertinterviewers.com Podcast: Don’t Tell Me About Yourself Social: @expertinterviewers

]]> 2976 no Are Recruiting Models Broken… or Just Misunderstood? In this episode of Talentless, Des and Ashley are joined by Chloe Ryan, VP of Talent Solutions at WSI Talent Sync, to tackle a question most of the industry avoids: Are recruiting models actually broken… or do we just not understand them? From agency to RPO to retained search, there’s no shortage of options, but most companies still default to the same approach when hiring gets hard. Chloe brings nearly 15 years of experience across recruiting models to break down what each one actually does, where they work, and why so many organizations end up choosing the wrong solution for the wrong problem. In this episode, we cover: Why recruiting models are so misunderstood What RPO actually is (and why it gets a bad rap) The real differences between agency, staffing, embedded, and in-house recruiting When bringing in outside help makes sense and when it doesn’t Why most hiring problems aren’t solved by “more recruiters” The role of data, technology, and scalability in modern recruiting How AI might reshape recruiting models (but not replace them) Why partnership not vendors is the real unlock Big takeaway:If your recruiting process is broken, no model will fix it until you’re ready to change. Guest: Chloe Ryan, VP Talent Solutions, WSI Talent Sync Wed, 25 Mar 2026 19:28:00 -0000 full WRKdefined Podcast Network In this episode of Talentless, Des and Ashley are joined by Chloe Ryan, VP of Talent Solutions at WSI Talent Sync, to tackle a question most of the industry avoids: Are recruiting models actually broken… or do we just not understand them? From agency to RPO to retained search, there’s no shortage of options, but most companies still default to the same approach when hiring gets hard. Chloe brings nearly 15 years of experience across recruiting models to break down what each one actually does, where they work, and why so many organizations end up choosing the wrong solution for the wrong problem. In this episode, we cover: Why recruiting models are so misunderstood What RPO actually is (and why it gets a bad rap) The real differences between agency, staffing, embedded, and in-house recruiting When bringing in outside help makes sense and when it doesn’t Why most hiring problems aren’t solved by “more recruiters” The role of data, technology, and scalability in modern recruiting How AI might reshape recruiting models (but not replace them) Why partnership not vendors is the real unlock Big takeaway:If your recruiting process is broken, no model will fix it until you’re ready to change. Guest: Chloe Ryan, VP Talent Solutions, WSI Talent Sync In this episode of Talentless, Des and Ashley are joined by Chloe Ryan, VP of Talent Solutions at WSI Talent Sync, to tackle a question most of the industry avoids:

Are recruiting models actually broken… or do we just not understand them?

From agency to RPO to retained search, there’s no shortage of options, but most companies still default to the same approach when hiring gets hard.

Chloe brings nearly 15 years of experience across recruiting models to break down what each one actually does, where they work, and why so many organizations end up choosing the wrong solution for the wrong problem.

In this episode, we cover:

  • Why recruiting models are so misunderstood

  • What RPO actually is (and why it gets a bad rap)

  • The real differences between agency, staffing, embedded, and in-house recruiting

  • When bringing in outside help makes sense and when it doesn’t

  • Why most hiring problems aren’t solved by “more recruiters”

  • The role of data, technology, and scalability in modern recruiting

  • How AI might reshape recruiting models (but not replace them)

  • Why partnership not vendors is the real unlock

Big takeaway:If your recruiting process is broken, no model will fix it until you’re ready to change.

Guest: Chloe Ryan, VP Talent Solutions, WSI Talent Sync


]]> 2663 no Is the Resume Dead? AI Screening and the New Hiring Front Door The resume is not dead yet.But it is definitely on life support. In this episode of Talentless, Des and Ashley sit down with Mayur Macwan, CEO of Roundone.ai, to talk about what happens when the traditional resume stops being a useful signal and hiring teams are left drowning in volume, noise, and top-of-funnel chaos. They get into why so much human time gets burned before any real evidence exists, what AI screening can actually solve, and why the goal is not to remove recruiters from the process. It is to give them better information, faster. This conversation covers: Why the top of the funnel is broken Whether the resume still does what we need it to do Why quantity of applicants is not the same as quality How AI voice screening creates more signal than a polished resume alone Why video screening introduces bigger risk than people realize What “human in the loop” should actually mean How AI can improve recruiter productivity without replacing recruiter judgment Why candidate experience still matters, even in an AI-enabled process If you’ve ever posted a job and watched 1,000 applications roll in before you could blink, this episode is for you. Guest: Mayur Macwan, CEO, Roundone.aiLearn more: roundone.ai Wed, 18 Mar 2026 18:49:00 -0000 full WRKdefined Podcast Network The resume is not dead yet.But it is definitely on life support. In this episode of Talentless, Des and Ashley sit down with Mayur Macwan, CEO of Roundone.ai, to talk about what happens when the traditional resume stops being a useful signal and hiring teams are left drowning in volume, noise, and top-of-funnel chaos. They get into why so much human time gets burned before any real evidence exists, what AI screening can actually solve, and why the goal is not to remove recruiters from the process. It is to give them better information, faster. This conversation covers: Why the top of the funnel is broken Whether the resume still does what we need it to do Why quantity of applicants is not the same as quality How AI voice screening creates more signal than a polished resume alone Why video screening introduces bigger risk than people realize What “human in the loop” should actually mean How AI can improve recruiter productivity without replacing recruiter judgment Why candidate experience still matters, even in an AI-enabled process If you’ve ever posted a job and watched 1,000 applications roll in before you could blink, this episode is for you. Guest: Mayur Macwan, CEO, Roundone.aiLearn more: roundone.ai The resume is not dead yet.But it is definitely on life support.

In this episode of Talentless, Des and Ashley sit down with Mayur Macwan, CEO of Roundone.ai, to talk about what happens when the traditional resume stops being a useful signal and hiring teams are left drowning in volume, noise, and top-of-funnel chaos.

They get into why so much human time gets burned before any real evidence exists, what AI screening can actually solve, and why the goal is not to remove recruiters from the process. It is to give them better information, faster.

This conversation covers:

  • Why the top of the funnel is broken

  • Whether the resume still does what we need it to do

  • Why quantity of applicants is not the same as quality

  • How AI voice screening creates more signal than a polished resume alone

  • Why video screening introduces bigger risk than people realize

  • What “human in the loop” should actually mean

  • How AI can improve recruiter productivity without replacing recruiter judgment

  • Why candidate experience still matters, even in an AI-enabled process

If you’ve ever posted a job and watched 1,000 applications roll in before you could blink, this episode is for you.

Guest: Mayur Macwan, CEO, Roundone.aiLearn more: roundone.ai


]]> 2638 no CSI: Hiring Funnel: AI Fraud, Fake Candidates, and Trust Signals AI didn’t just change hiring. It changed lying. In this episode of Talentless, Des and Ashley sit down with Maryam Mahdaviani, Founder & CEO of Attesto, to unpack what “candidate fraud” actually looks like in 2026. We’re not talking about a little resume inflation. We’re talking: Fabricated LinkedIn + resume + GitHub ecosystems Impersonation and proxy interviews Fake candidates who pass early screens Social engineering inside interviews And the real incentives behind it all Maryam explains how Attesto operates at the top of the funnel to generate trust signals, why relying on one “fraud tell” can cost you great candidates, and what “human in the loop” really means in an AI-driven hiring process. This conversation isn’t just about speed or efficiency.It’s about trust, security, morale, and accountability. If you think this is a small problem… you might want to listen. Guest: Maryam Mahdaviani, Founder & CEO, AttestoLearn more: attesto.com Wed, 04 Mar 2026 22:56:00 -0000 full WRKdefined Podcast Network AI didn’t just change hiring. It changed lying. In this episode of Talentless, Des and Ashley sit down with Maryam Mahdaviani, Founder & CEO of Attesto, to unpack what “candidate fraud” actually looks like in 2026. We’re not talking about a little resume inflation. We’re talking: Fabricated LinkedIn + resume + GitHub ecosystems Impersonation and proxy interviews Fake candidates who pass early screens Social engineering inside interviews And the real incentives behind it all Maryam explains how Attesto operates at the top of the funnel to generate trust signals, why relying on one “fraud tell” can cost you great candidates, and what “human in the loop” really means in an AI-driven hiring process. This conversation isn’t just about speed or efficiency.It’s about trust, security, morale, and accountability. If you think this is a small problem… you might want to listen. Guest: Maryam Mahdaviani, Founder & CEO, AttestoLearn more: attesto.com AI didn’t just change hiring. It changed lying.

In this episode of Talentless, Des and Ashley sit down with Maryam Mahdaviani, Founder & CEO of Attesto, to unpack what “candidate fraud” actually looks like in 2026.

We’re not talking about a little resume inflation. We’re talking:

  • Fabricated LinkedIn + resume + GitHub ecosystems

  • Impersonation and proxy interviews

  • Fake candidates who pass early screens

  • Social engineering inside interviews

  • And the real incentives behind it all

Maryam explains how Attesto operates at the top of the funnel to generate trust signals, why relying on one “fraud tell” can cost you great candidates, and what “human in the loop” really means in an AI-driven hiring process.

This conversation isn’t just about speed or efficiency.It’s about trust, security, morale, and accountability.

If you think this is a small problem… you might want to listen.

Guest: Maryam Mahdaviani, Founder & CEO, AttestoLearn more: attesto.com


]]> 2911 no Building the Table: Leadership, Power & The Climb Leadership conversations love to talk about intention.This one talks about impact. In this episode of Talentless, Desiree Goldey and Ashley King sit down with Felicia Smith, founder of The Climb, to unpack what leadership development actually looks like when diversity moves beyond buzzwords and into real behavior, decision-making, and power structures. We get into: The moment representation stops being a “pipeline problem” Why mentorship without systems falls short How bias hides behind words like fit and readiness What leaders consistently miss when evaluating talent Why building better tables matters more than asking for a seat This conversation blends real leadership strategy with the deeper psychology behind access, opportunity, and advancement and challenges leaders to move from performative support to meaningful action. Learn more about The Climb: the-climb.org Connect with Felicia Smith on LinkedIn Sat, 21 Feb 2026 15:03:00 -0000 full WRKdefined Podcast Network Leadership conversations love to talk about intention.This one talks about impact. In this episode of Talentless, Desiree Goldey and Ashley King sit down with Felicia Smith, founder of The Climb, to unpack what leadership development actually looks like when diversity moves beyond buzzwords and into real behavior, decision-making, and power structures. We get into: The moment representation stops being a “pipeline problem” Why mentorship without systems falls short How bias hides behind words like fit and readiness What leaders consistently miss when evaluating talent Why building better tables matters more than asking for a seat This conversation blends real leadership strategy with the deeper psychology behind access, opportunity, and advancement and challenges leaders to move from performative support to meaningful action. Learn more about The Climb: the-climb.org Connect with Felicia Smith on LinkedIn Leadership conversations love to talk about intention.This one talks about impact.

In this episode of Talentless, Desiree Goldey and Ashley King sit down with Felicia Smith, founder of The Climb, to unpack what leadership development actually looks like when diversity moves beyond buzzwords and into real behavior, decision-making, and power structures.

We get into:

  • The moment representation stops being a “pipeline problem”

  • Why mentorship without systems falls short

  • How bias hides behind words like fit and readiness

  • What leaders consistently miss when evaluating talent

  • Why building better tables matters more than asking for a seat

This conversation blends real leadership strategy with the deeper psychology behind access, opportunity, and advancement and challenges leaders to move from performative support to meaningful action.

Learn more about The Climb: the-climb.org Connect with Felicia Smith on LinkedIn


]]> 3033 no Data Over Drama: Building Strong Partnerships Ben Abear, Scaled Analytics & Innovation Manager at Adobe In this episode of Talentless, Desiree Goldey and Ashley King sit down with Ben Abear to talk about why modern hiring breaks when decisions are driven by feelings instead of facts. Ben shares how data builds trust, strengthens partnerships with the business, and helps recruiters move from order takers to true strategic partners even on small or under-resourced teams. We dig into what hiring metrics actually matter, how qualitative insight adds critical context, and where AI can support (but not replace) good decision-making. What you’ll hear: Why data is essential in today’s hiring landscape How trust with the business is built through clarity The role of qualitative data in better hiring decisions How small teams can still leverage data effectively Tue, 03 Feb 2026 20:31:00 -0000 full WRKdefined Podcast Network Ben Abear, Scaled Analytics & Innovation Manager at Adobe In this episode of Talentless, Desiree Goldey and Ashley King sit down with Ben Abear to talk about why modern hiring breaks when decisions are driven by feelings instead of facts. Ben shares how data builds trust, strengthens partnerships with the business, and helps recruiters move from order takers to true strategic partners even on small or under-resourced teams. We dig into what hiring metrics actually matter, how qualitative insight adds critical context, and where AI can support (but not replace) good decision-making. What you’ll hear: Why data is essential in today’s hiring landscape How trust with the business is built through clarity The role of qualitative data in better hiring decisions How small teams can still leverage data effectively Ben Abear, Scaled Analytics & Innovation Manager at Adobe

In this episode of Talentless, Desiree Goldey and Ashley King sit down with Ben Abear to talk about why modern hiring breaks when decisions are driven by feelings instead of facts.

Ben shares how data builds trust, strengthens partnerships with the business, and helps recruiters move from order takers to true strategic partners even on small or under-resourced teams.

We dig into what hiring metrics actually matter, how qualitative insight adds critical context, and where AI can support (but not replace) good decision-making.

What you’ll hear:

  • Why data is essential in today’s hiring landscape

  • How trust with the business is built through clarity

  • The role of qualitative data in better hiring decisions

  • How small teams can still leverage data effectively

]]> 2827 no Military Hiring Debunked Hiring veterans isn’t hard.Hiring veterans without understanding them is where everything falls apart. In this episode of Talentless, Desiree Goldey and Ashley King are joined by Lee Cage Jr. (SPHR, HRIP, CSM) to break down the myths, mistakes, and missed opportunities in military hiring. Lee brings a rare mix of experience across enterprise transformation, HR technology, and 17+ years of service in the Army National Guard, making this conversation equal parts practical, strategic, and overdue. We get into: The biggest misconceptions companies have about military talent Why “they don’t have corporate experience” is usually lazy hiring How to translate military roles into skills without oversimplifying them What real veteran support looks like after hiring (onboarding + retention) Where recruiters get stuck: sourcing, evaluation, and hiring manager bias What TA leaders should do right now to build military hiring programs that actually work If your company says “we love hiring veterans” but can’t explain what that actually means… this episode is your mirror. Listen wherever you get your podcasts Submit your #dumdum talent stories for a shoutout Tue, 27 Jan 2026 18:54:00 -0000 full WRKdefined Podcast Network Hiring veterans isn’t hard.Hiring veterans without understanding them is where everything falls apart. In this episode of Talentless, Desiree Goldey and Ashley King are joined by Lee Cage Jr. (SPHR, HRIP, CSM) to break down the myths, mistakes, and missed opportunities in military hiring. Lee brings a rare mix of experience across enterprise transformation, HR technology, and 17+ years of service in the Army National Guard, making this conversation equal parts practical, strategic, and overdue. We get into: The biggest misconceptions companies have about military talent Why “they don’t have corporate experience” is usually lazy hiring How to translate military roles into skills without oversimplifying them What real veteran support looks like after hiring (onboarding + retention) Where recruiters get stuck: sourcing, evaluation, and hiring manager bias What TA leaders should do right now to build military hiring programs that actually work If your company says “we love hiring veterans” but can’t explain what that actually means… this episode is your mirror. Listen wherever you get your podcasts Submit your #dumdum talent stories for a shoutout Hiring veterans isn’t hard.Hiring veterans without understanding them is where everything falls apart.

In this episode of Talentless, Desiree Goldey and Ashley King are joined by Lee Cage Jr. (SPHR, HRIP, CSM) to break down the myths, mistakes, and missed opportunities in military hiring.

Lee brings a rare mix of experience across enterprise transformation, HR technology, and 17+ years of service in the Army National Guard, making this conversation equal parts practical, strategic, and overdue.

We get into:

  • The biggest misconceptions companies have about military talent

  • Why “they don’t have corporate experience” is usually lazy hiring

  • How to translate military roles into skills without oversimplifying them

  • What real veteran support looks like after hiring (onboarding + retention)

  • Where recruiters get stuck: sourcing, evaluation, and hiring manager bias

  • What TA leaders should do right now to build military hiring programs that actually work

If your company says “we love hiring veterans” but can’t explain what that actually means… this episode is your mirror.

Listen wherever you get your podcasts Submit your #dumdum talent stories for a shoutout


]]> 2510 no AI in Talent: Why It Matters (and When It Doesn’t) AI is everywhere in recruiting right now. And depending on who you ask, it’s either the future of TA… or a compliance nightmare wrapped in a shiny demo. In this episode of Talentless, Ashley King and Desiree Goldey cut through the hype and talk about what AI actually does well in talent, what it does dangerously wrong, and why the biggest risk isn’t the tech. It’s the humans using it without guardrails. We get into: Why AI isn’t the villain, but people using it without limits absolutely are The difference between automation vs. AI (and why most teams confuse the two) Where AI can genuinely help recruiters: admin work, sourcing, templates, strategy prep Why AI should never be the final decision-maker in hiring Candidate experience: where “efficient” starts to feel cold and gross How AI interviews and avatars can create new bias (dialect, culture, speech patterns, “presence”) The compliance reality: it doesn’t have to “decide” to still influence outcomes The underrated concern: environmental impact (your prompt isn’t free, babes) A practical takeaway for TA leaders: create prompt libraries so recruiters show up as partners, not order-takers Bottom line: AI can give TA time back. But only if the process and the people using it are ready. And right now? The class is… not ready. Listen wherever you get your podcasts Submit your “Dum Dum” recruiting story for a shoutout (anonymous is cool too) Tue, 20 Jan 2026 20:34:00 -0000 full WRKdefined Podcast Network AI is everywhere in recruiting right now. And depending on who you ask, it’s either the future of TA… or a compliance nightmare wrapped in a shiny demo. In this episode of Talentless, Ashley King and Desiree Goldey cut through the hype and talk about what AI actually does well in talent, what it does dangerously wrong, and why the biggest risk isn’t the tech. It’s the humans using it without guardrails. We get into: Why AI isn’t the villain, but people using it without limits absolutely are The difference between automation vs. AI (and why most teams confuse the two) Where AI can genuinely help recruiters: admin work, sourcing, templates, strategy prep Why AI should never be the final decision-maker in hiring Candidate experience: where “efficient” starts to feel cold and gross How AI interviews and avatars can create new bias (dialect, culture, speech patterns, “presence”) The compliance reality: it doesn’t have to “decide” to still influence outcomes The underrated concern: environmental impact (your prompt isn’t free, babes) A practical takeaway for TA leaders: create prompt libraries so recruiters show up as partners, not order-takers Bottom line: AI can give TA time back. But only if the process and the people using it are ready. And right now? The class is… not ready. Listen wherever you get your podcasts Submit your “Dum Dum” recruiting story for a shoutout (anonymous is cool too) AI is everywhere in recruiting right now. And depending on who you ask, it’s either the future of TA… or a compliance nightmare wrapped in a shiny demo.

In this episode of Talentless, Ashley King and Desiree Goldey cut through the hype and talk about what AI actually does well in talent, what it does dangerously wrong, and why the biggest risk isn’t the tech. It’s the humans using it without guardrails.

We get into:

  • Why AI isn’t the villain, but people using it without limits absolutely are

  • The difference between automation vs. AI (and why most teams confuse the two)

  • Where AI can genuinely help recruiters: admin work, sourcing, templates, strategy prep

  • Why AI should never be the final decision-maker in hiring

  • Candidate experience: where “efficient” starts to feel cold and gross

  • How AI interviews and avatars can create new bias (dialect, culture, speech patterns, “presence”)

  • The compliance reality: it doesn’t have to “decide” to still influence outcomes

  • The underrated concern: environmental impact (your prompt isn’t free, babes)

  • A practical takeaway for TA leaders: create prompt libraries so recruiters show up as partners, not order-takers

Bottom line: AI can give TA time back. But only if the process and the people using it are ready. And right now? The class is… not ready.


Listen wherever you get your podcasts Submit your “Dum Dum” recruiting story for a shoutout (anonymous is cool too)


]]> 2580 no The Data That Matters Data. Data. Dada. However you say it, one thing is clear: not all data is created equal. In this episode of Talentless, Ashley King and Desiree Goldey break down what data actually matters in talent acquisition and why most TA teams are stuck reporting numbers that don’t move the business forward. This is a practical, no-fluff conversation about data literacy, business impact, and why knowing how to interpret data is the real leadership unlock for recruiters. We cover: Why data literacy is the real glass ceiling in TA The difference between symptoms and root causes in recruiting data Why attrition and retention matter more than time-to-fill How pass-through ratios expose alignment (or misalignment) with hiring managers Why volume-based recruiting metrics are misleading How to monetize recruiting activity so executives actually listen Using qualitative + quantitative data together to drive better hiring outcomes If you’ve ever felt like TA is stuck at the “reporting numbers” stage instead of influencing decisions, this episode is for you.  Listen wherever you get your podcasts Subscribe for more recruiter real talk, minus the corporate nonsense Tue, 30 Dec 2025 18:16:00 -0000 full WRKdefined Podcast Network Data. Data. Dada. However you say it, one thing is clear: not all data is created equal. In this episode of Talentless, Ashley King and Desiree Goldey break down what data actually matters in talent acquisition and why most TA teams are stuck reporting numbers that don’t move the business forward. This is a practical, no-fluff conversation about data literacy, business impact, and why knowing how to interpret data is the real leadership unlock for recruiters. We cover: Why data literacy is the real glass ceiling in TA The difference between symptoms and root causes in recruiting data Why attrition and retention matter more than time-to-fill How pass-through ratios expose alignment (or misalignment) with hiring managers Why volume-based recruiting metrics are misleading How to monetize recruiting activity so executives actually listen Using qualitative + quantitative data together to drive better hiring outcomes If you’ve ever felt like TA is stuck at the “reporting numbers” stage instead of influencing decisions, this episode is for you.  Listen wherever you get your podcasts Subscribe for more recruiter real talk, minus the corporate nonsense Data. Data. Dada. However you say it, one thing is clear: not all data is created equal.

In this episode of Talentless, Ashley King and Desiree Goldey break down what data actually matters in talent acquisition and why most TA teams are stuck reporting numbers that don’t move the business forward.

This is a practical, no-fluff conversation about data literacy, business impact, and why knowing how to interpret data is the real leadership unlock for recruiters.

We cover:

  • Why data literacy is the real glass ceiling in TA

  • The difference between symptoms and root causes in recruiting data

  • Why attrition and retention matter more than time-to-fill

  • How pass-through ratios expose alignment (or misalignment) with hiring managers

  • Why volume-based recruiting metrics are misleading

  • How to monetize recruiting activity so executives actually listen

  • Using qualitative + quantitative data together to drive better hiring outcomes

If you’ve ever felt like TA is stuck at the “reporting numbers” stage instead of influencing decisions, this episode is for you.

 Listen wherever you get your podcasts
 Subscribe for more recruiter real talk, minus the corporate nonsense

]]> 1877 no Recruiter Enablement Is the Future of TA What if the problem with talent acquisition isn’t recruiters… it’s how we set them up? In this episode of Talentless, Ashley King and Desiree Goldey dig into recruiter enablement and why it’s quickly becoming the difference between TA teams that survive and those that actually move the business forward. We unpack what recruiter enablement really means (spoiler: it’s not just more tools), why measuring ROI in recruiting is long overdue, and how TA leaders can build smarter partnerships with the business instead of operating like an internal agency no one fully understands. We also get into: Why most recruiting tools never prove their value What recruiter performance should be measured on How data can help or hurt, depending on how it’s used The role of psychological safety in unlocking high-potential talent Why education and strategic scaffolding matter more than hustle culture This is one of those episodes that might make you rethink how your TA org is built and why recruiters burn out when enablement is missing. If you care about outcomes, not just activity, this one’s for you.  Listen wherever you get your podcasts Subscribe so you don’t miss what’s next Tue, 16 Dec 2025 17:19:00 -0000 full WRKdefined Podcast Network What if the problem with talent acquisition isn’t recruiters… it’s how we set them up? In this episode of Talentless, Ashley King and Desiree Goldey dig into recruiter enablement and why it’s quickly becoming the difference between TA teams that survive and those that actually move the business forward. We unpack what recruiter enablement really means (spoiler: it’s not just more tools), why measuring ROI in recruiting is long overdue, and how TA leaders can build smarter partnerships with the business instead of operating like an internal agency no one fully understands. We also get into: Why most recruiting tools never prove their value What recruiter performance should be measured on How data can help or hurt, depending on how it’s used The role of psychological safety in unlocking high-potential talent Why education and strategic scaffolding matter more than hustle culture This is one of those episodes that might make you rethink how your TA org is built and why recruiters burn out when enablement is missing. If you care about outcomes, not just activity, this one’s for you.  Listen wherever you get your podcasts Subscribe so you don’t miss what’s next

What if the problem with talent acquisition isn’t recruiters… it’s how we set them up?

In this episode of Talentless, Ashley King and Desiree Goldey dig into recruiter enablement and why it’s quickly becoming the difference between TA teams that survive and those that actually move the business forward.

We unpack what recruiter enablement really means (spoiler: it’s not just more tools), why measuring ROI in recruiting is long overdue, and how TA leaders can build smarter partnerships with the business instead of operating like an internal agency no one fully understands.

We also get into:

  • Why most recruiting tools never prove their value

  • What recruiter performance should be measured on

  • How data can help or hurt, depending on how it’s used

  • The role of psychological safety in unlocking high-potential talent

  • Why education and strategic scaffolding matter more than hustle culture

This is one of those episodes that might make you rethink how your TA org is built and why recruiters burn out when enablement is missing.

If you care about outcomes, not just activity, this one’s for you.

 Listen wherever you get your podcasts
 Subscribe so you don’t miss what’s next

]]> 2114 no Recfest Shakers Video We took Talentless on the road and dropped ourselves right into the middle of RecFest. Sun out, mics on, chaos fully embraced.In this episode, we sat down with two of our all-time favorite humans in recruiting, Brooke Freeburg and Krissy Callari from ZRG, and let the conversation do what it does best… wander in the smartest, funniest way possible. We talked about the realities of recruiting right now, what actually makes this industry fun again, and why relationships still matter more than whatever new tool launched this week. There were laughs, hot takes, and a few “did we really just say that?” moments that make live conversations so damn good. It was candid. It was chaotic. It was very RecFest. Wed, 10 Dec 2025 21:07:00 -0000 full WRKdefined Podcast Network We took Talentless on the road and dropped ourselves right into the middle of RecFest. Sun out, mics on, chaos fully embraced.In this episode, we sat down with two of our all-time favorite humans in recruiting, Brooke Freeburg and Krissy Callari from ZRG, and let the conversation do what it does best… wander in the smartest, funniest way possible. We talked about the realities of recruiting right now, what actually makes this industry fun again, and why relationships still matter more than whatever new tool launched this week. There were laughs, hot takes, and a few “did we really just say that?” moments that make live conversations so damn good. It was candid. It was chaotic. It was very RecFest. We took Talentless on the road and dropped ourselves right into the middle of RecFest. Sun out, mics on, chaos fully embraced.In this episode, we sat down with two of our all-time favorite humans in recruiting, Brooke Freeburg and Krissy Callari from ZRG, and let the conversation do what it does best… wander in the smartest, funniest way possible.

We talked about the realities of recruiting right now, what actually makes this industry fun again, and why relationships still matter more than whatever new tool launched this week. There were laughs, hot takes, and a few “did we really just say that?” moments that make live conversations so damn good.

It was candid. It was chaotic. It was very RecFest.

]]> 2698 no HR Conferences: A Deep Dive "HR Conferences” is our love letter and side-eye to the events that are supposed to move this industry forward. Desiree and Ashley break down what conferences should be about – community, real education, and true innovation – and why too many of them have turned into overpriced vendor parades with celebrity keynotes no one asked for. We talk about safety (especially for women), inclusion, accessibility, and what it actually looks like to come home with something you can use at your desk on Monday, not just a hangover and a swag bag. Catch the full episode below and hear how Desiree and Ashley are challenging HR conferences to do better for the people who keep this industry running. Tue, 02 Dec 2025 19:52:00 -0000 full WRKdefined Podcast Network "HR Conferences” is our love letter and side-eye to the events that are supposed to move this industry forward. Desiree and Ashley break down what conferences should be about – community, real education, and true innovation – and why too many of them have turned into overpriced vendor parades with celebrity keynotes no one asked for. We talk about safety (especially for women), inclusion, accessibility, and what it actually looks like to come home with something you can use at your desk on Monday, not just a hangover and a swag bag. Catch the full episode below and hear how Desiree and Ashley are challenging HR conferences to do better for the people who keep this industry running. "HR Conferences” is our love letter and side-eye to the events that are supposed to move this industry forward. Desiree and Ashley break down what conferences should be about – community, real education, and true innovation – and why too many of them have turned into overpriced vendor parades with celebrity keynotes no one asked for.

We talk about safety (especially for women), inclusion, accessibility, and what it actually looks like to come home with something you can use at your desk on Monday, not just a hangover and a swag bag.

Catch the full episode below and hear how Desiree and Ashley are challenging HR conferences to do better for the people who keep this industry running.


]]> 2384 no Jim Miller: Rethinking Recruiter Productivity in a High-Volume World Jim Miller is a global People Operations leader with over 20 years of experience scaling recruiting and people teams across tech giants and hyper-growth startups including Google, FullStory, and now Ashby, where he serves as VP of People & Talent. From leading 200+ recruiters worldwide to advising on product, process, and people tech, Jim has built his career around one central truth: productivity in recruiting isn’t about doing more, it’s about doing smarter. In this episode, Jim joins Talentless to break down what productivity really looks like for recruiters in 2025, the data, the burnout, and the brutal myths we keep telling ourselves about “hustle.” Tune in as we unpack: Why recruiter productivity has become a broken metric How tech and tooling (like Ashby) can elevate, not replace human judgment What real efficiency looks like when hiring at scale The future of People Ops leadership in an AI-driven world Smart, funny, and deeply experienced, Jim brings clarity to a conversation most of us are too busy to have. Tue, 11 Nov 2025 17:53:00 -0000 full WRKdefined Podcast Network Jim Miller is a global People Operations leader with over 20 years of experience scaling recruiting and people teams across tech giants and hyper-growth startups including Google, FullStory, and now Ashby, where he serves as VP of People & Talent. From leading 200+ recruiters worldwide to advising on product, process, and people tech, Jim has built his career around one central truth: productivity in recruiting isn’t about doing more, it’s about doing smarter. In this episode, Jim joins Talentless to break down what productivity really looks like for recruiters in 2025, the data, the burnout, and the brutal myths we keep telling ourselves about “hustle.” Tune in as we unpack: Why recruiter productivity has become a broken metric How tech and tooling (like Ashby) can elevate, not replace human judgment What real efficiency looks like when hiring at scale The future of People Ops leadership in an AI-driven world Smart, funny, and deeply experienced, Jim brings clarity to a conversation most of us are too busy to have. Jim Miller is a global People Operations leader with over 20 years of experience scaling recruiting and people teams across tech giants and hyper-growth startups including Google, FullStory, and now Ashby, where he serves as VP of People & Talent.

From leading 200+ recruiters worldwide to advising on product, process, and people tech, Jim has built his career around one central truth: productivity in recruiting isn’t about doing more, it’s about doing smarter.

In this episode, Jim joins Talentless to break down what productivity really looks like for recruiters in 2025, the data, the burnout, and the brutal myths we keep telling ourselves about “hustle.”

Tune in as we unpack:

  • Why recruiter productivity has become a broken metric

  • How tech and tooling (like Ashby) can elevate, not replace human judgment

  • What real efficiency looks like when hiring at scale

  • The future of People Ops leadership in an AI-driven world

Smart, funny, and deeply experienced, Jim brings clarity to a conversation most of us are too busy to have.


]]> 2661 no Katrina Kibben: Leading with Humanity and Building Better Workplaces Katrina Kibben is a leadership speaker, LinkedIn Top Voice, and founder of Three Ears Media known for transforming how companies attract talent and build healthy team cultures. With over 15 years at global brands like Monster.com and Randstad, Katrina brings real talk on leadership, belonging, and what it means to show up as yourself at work. In this episode, Katrina joins Talentless to talk about leading with authenticity, navigating change, and why hiring should always start with empathy. Tune in for a smart, human conversation with one of the boldest voices in the talent industry. Tue, 04 Nov 2025 19:01:00 -0000 full WRKdefined Podcast Network Katrina Kibben is a leadership speaker, LinkedIn Top Voice, and founder of Three Ears Media known for transforming how companies attract talent and build healthy team cultures. With over 15 years at global brands like Monster.com and Randstad, Katrina brings real talk on leadership, belonging, and what it means to show up as yourself at work. In this episode, Katrina joins Talentless to talk about leading with authenticity, navigating change, and why hiring should always start with empathy. Tune in for a smart, human conversation with one of the boldest voices in the talent industry. Katrina Kibben is a leadership speaker, LinkedIn Top Voice, and founder of Three Ears Media known for transforming how companies attract talent and build healthy team cultures. With over 15 years at global brands like Monster.com and Randstad, Katrina brings real talk on leadership, belonging, and what it means to show up as yourself at work.

In this episode, Katrina joins Talentless to talk about leading with authenticity, navigating change, and why hiring should always start with empathy.

Tune in for a smart, human conversation with one of the boldest voices in the talent industry.




]]> 3211 no Clockout with Julia Arpag “Clockout with Julia Arpag” is a story about building something meaningful at work and at home. Julia shares how she turned her love for connecting people into a business rooted in purpose, faith, and high-performance recruiting. As founder of Aligned Recruitment, she’s proof that you can lead with heart, hire with intention, and still build world-class teams. Catch the full episode below and hear how Julia redefined what a career in recruiting can look like. Tue, 28 Oct 2025 18:15:00 -0000 full WRKdefined Podcast Network “Clockout with Julia Arpag” is a story about building something meaningful at work and at home. Julia shares how she turned her love for connecting people into a business rooted in purpose, faith, and high-performance recruiting. As founder of Aligned Recruitment, she’s proof that you can lead with heart, hire with intention, and still build world-class teams. Catch the full episode below and hear how Julia redefined what a career in recruiting can look like. “Clockout with Julia Arpag” is a story about building something meaningful at work and at home. Julia shares how she turned her love for connecting people into a business rooted in purpose, faith, and high-performance recruiting.

As founder of Aligned Recruitment, she’s proof that you can lead with heart, hire with intention, and still build world-class teams.

Catch the full episode below and hear how Julia redefined what a career in recruiting can look like.


]]> 2012 no Clockout with Tejal Rives “Clockout with Tejal Rives” is a conversation about finding power where the system told you not to. Tejal opens up about navigating the job search and promotion process as a woman of color and how that experience pushed her to change how hiring works—starting with transparency and empathy. From helping others decode what recruiters really look for to talking openly about DEI and neurodiversity, her story is as honest as it is empowering. Catch the full episode below and hear how Tejal redefined what a career in recruiting can look like. Tue, 21 Oct 2025 18:27:00 -0000 full WRKdefined Podcast Network “Clockout with Tejal Rives” is a conversation about finding power where the system told you not to. Tejal opens up about navigating the job search and promotion process as a woman of color and how that experience pushed her to change how hiring works—starting with transparency and empathy. From helping others decode what recruiters really look for to talking openly about DEI and neurodiversity, her story is as honest as it is empowering. Catch the full episode below and hear how Tejal redefined what a career in recruiting can look like. “Clockout with Tejal Rives” is a conversation about finding power where the system told you not to. Tejal opens up about navigating the job search and promotion process as a woman of color and how that experience pushed her to change how hiring works—starting with transparency and empathy. From helping others decode what recruiters really look for to talking openly about DEI and neurodiversity, her story is as honest as it is empowering.

Catch the full episode below and hear how Tejal redefined what a career in recruiting can look like.


]]> 1881 no Clockout with Erin Riska “Clockout with Erin Riska” dives into the unconventional path of a recruiter who refuses to play by the old HR rulebook. Erin shares how curiosity, flexibility, and a healthy dose of irreverence shaped her work as a fractional talent strategist and writer. From building better candidate experiences to designing people-first recruiting systems, her story is equal parts grit and wanderlust. Catch the full episode below and hear how Erin redefined what a career in recruiting can look like. Tue, 07 Oct 2025 17:52:00 -0000 full WRKdefined Podcast Network “Clockout with Erin Riska” dives into the unconventional path of a recruiter who refuses to play by the old HR rulebook. Erin shares how curiosity, flexibility, and a healthy dose of irreverence shaped her work as a fractional talent strategist and writer. From building better candidate experiences to designing people-first recruiting systems, her story is equal parts grit and wanderlust. Catch the full episode below and hear how Erin redefined what a career in recruiting can look like. “Clockout with Erin Riska” dives into the unconventional path of a recruiter who refuses to play by the old HR rulebook. Erin shares how curiosity, flexibility, and a healthy dose of irreverence shaped her work as a fractional talent strategist and writer. From building better candidate experiences to designing people-first recruiting systems, her story is equal parts grit and wanderlust.

Catch the full episode below and hear how Erin redefined what a career in recruiting can look like.


]]> 2317 no Joel Lalgee: Building a Career, Community, and Content That Lasts Joel Lalgee is a podcast host, executive recruiter, and content strategist who’s become a true friend of the Talentless Podcast. In this episode of Clockout, Joel shares his journey, lessons learned, and why content is one of the most powerful tools in the talent industry.  Tune in to hear Joel’s story and get inspired by one of the legends in recruiting content. Wed, 24 Sep 2025 19:57:00 -0000 full WRKdefined Podcast Network Joel Lalgee is a podcast host, executive recruiter, and content strategist who’s become a true friend of the Talentless Podcast. In this episode of Clockout, Joel shares his journey, lessons learned, and why content is one of the most powerful tools in the talent industry.  Tune in to hear Joel’s story and get inspired by one of the legends in recruiting content.

Joel Lalgee is a podcast host, executive recruiter, and content strategist who’s become a true friend of the Talentless Podcast. In this episode of Clockout, Joel shares his journey, lessons learned, and why content is one of the most powerful tools in the talent industry.

 Tune in to hear Joel’s story and get inspired by one of the legends in recruiting content.


]]> 2131 Clockout with Shannon Ogborn Clockout with Talentless and learn about the career journey of everyone's favorite almost dentist- Shannon Ogborn! Mon, 22 Sep 2025 18:41:00 -0000 full WRKdefined Podcast Network Clockout with Talentless and learn about the career journey of everyone's favorite almost dentist- Shannon Ogborn! Clockout with Talentless and learn about the career journey of everyone's favorite almost dentist- Shannon Ogborn!

]]> 1875 no Role Nuances Same job title, totally different reality. In this episode of Talentless, we break down the messy truth about role nuances: the invisible details that can make or break a recruiter’s sanity. We’re talking job titles that don’t match the work, hiring managers who oversell the role, and candidates who find themselves in a job that feels nothing like the posting. We’ll swap stories, spill some tea, and explain why understanding the fine print of a role isn’t just nice to have, it’s survival in this industry. If you’ve ever looked at a job description and thought, “Wait… what exactly is this role?”—this one’s for you.  Tune in, laugh a little, and maybe rethink the next requisition that lands on your desk. Thu, 28 Aug 2025 02:00:00 -0000 full WRKdefined Podcast Network Same job title, totally different reality. In this episode of Talentless, we break down the messy truth about role nuances: the invisible details that can make or break a recruiter’s sanity. We’re talking job titles that don’t match the work, hiring managers who oversell the role, and candidates who find themselves in a job that feels nothing like the posting. We’ll swap stories, spill some tea, and explain why understanding the fine print of a role isn’t just nice to have, it’s survival in this industry. If you’ve ever looked at a job description and thought, “Wait… what exactly is this role?”—this one’s for you.  Tune in, laugh a little, and maybe rethink the next requisition that lands on your desk. Same job title, totally different reality. In this episode of Talentless, we break down the messy truth about role nuances: the invisible details that can make or break a recruiter’s sanity. We’re talking job titles that don’t match the work, hiring managers who oversell the role, and candidates who find themselves in a job that feels nothing like the posting.

We’ll swap stories, spill some tea, and explain why understanding the fine print of a role isn’t just nice to have, it’s survival in this industry.

If you’ve ever looked at a job description and thought, “Wait… what exactly is this role?”—this one’s for you.

 Tune in, laugh a little, and maybe rethink the next requisition that lands on your desk.

]]> 3151 no Industry Nuances Recruiting isn’t one-size-fits-all—and nowhere is that clearer than when you move across industries. In this episode of Talentless, we dig into the nuances that shape how hiring actually works in different sectors. From the fast-paced world of tech to the highly credentialed healthcare field, from hospitality’s frontline brand-builders to the high-stakes demands of tech hiring, we break down what makes each industry unique—and why recruiters need to adjust their approach to succeed. Expect straight talk, sharp insights, and a few laughs along the way as we unpack how recruiters can recognize the rules of the game in each space and use that knowledge to deliver better hires, stronger relationships, and long-term wins. Listen wherever you get your podcasts and join the conversation about what it really takes to recruit across industries. Mon, 18 Aug 2025 23:08:00 -0000 full 1 8 WRKdefined Podcast Network Recruiting isn’t one-size-fits-all—and nowhere is that clearer than when you move across industries. In this episode of Talentless, we dig into the nuances that shape how hiring actually works in different sectors. From the fast-paced world of tech to the highly credentialed healthcare field, from hospitality’s frontline brand-builders to the high-stakes demands of tech hiring, we break down what makes each industry unique—and why recruiters need to adjust their approach to succeed. Expect straight talk, sharp insights, and a few laughs along the way as we unpack how recruiters can recognize the rules of the game in each space and use that knowledge to deliver better hires, stronger relationships, and long-term wins. Listen wherever you get your podcasts and join the conversation about what it really takes to recruit across industries. Recruiting isn’t one-size-fits-all—and nowhere is that clearer than when you move across industries. In this episode of Talentless, we dig into the nuances that shape how hiring actually works in different sectors. From the fast-paced world of tech to the highly credentialed healthcare field, from hospitality’s frontline brand-builders to the high-stakes demands of tech hiring, we break down what makes each industry unique—and why recruiters need to adjust their approach to succeed.

Expect straight talk, sharp insights, and a few laughs along the way as we unpack how recruiters can recognize the rules of the game in each space and use that knowledge to deliver better hires, stronger relationships, and long-term wins.

Listen wherever you get your podcasts and join the conversation about what it really takes to recruit across industries.

]]> 2865 Managing the Manager Recruiters aren’t just sourcing resumes — they’re managing expectations, coaching through bias, and sometimes dragging hiring managers across the finish line. In this episode of Talentless, we dig into the real work behind “managing the manager.” From setting clear timelines and pushing back on unrealistic requests to aligning on what “good” actually looks like, we discuss the soft skills and strategic grit it takes to run a hiring process that works. Whether you’ve had to teach someone how to interview (again) or you’re battling hiring freeze whiplash, this one’s for you. Because being a recruiter means you’re not just filling jobs — you’re managing people who think they know how to. Tue, 12 Aug 2025 03:22:00 -0000 full 1 10 WRKdefined Podcast Network Recruiters aren’t just sourcing resumes — they’re managing expectations, coaching through bias, and sometimes dragging hiring managers across the finish line. In this episode of Talentless, we dig into the real work behind “managing the manager.” From setting clear timelines and pushing back on unrealistic requests to aligning on what “good” actually looks like, we discuss the soft skills and strategic grit it takes to run a hiring process that works. Whether you’ve had to teach someone how to interview (again) or you’re battling hiring freeze whiplash, this one’s for you. Because being a recruiter means you’re not just filling jobs — you’re managing people who think they know how to. Recruiters aren’t just sourcing resumes — they’re managing expectations, coaching through bias, and sometimes dragging hiring managers across the finish line.

In this episode of Talentless, we dig into the real work behind “managing the manager.” From setting clear timelines and pushing back on unrealistic requests to aligning on what “good” actually looks like, we discuss the soft skills and strategic grit it takes to run a hiring process that works.

Whether you’ve had to teach someone how to interview (again) or you’re battling hiring freeze whiplash, this one’s for you. Because being a recruiter means you’re not just filling jobs — you’re managing people who think they know how to.

]]> 3394 no Managing the Manager Recruiters aren’t just sourcing resumes — they’re managing expectations, coaching through bias, and sometimes dragging hiring managers across the finish line. In this episode of Talentless, we dig into the real work behind “managing the manager.” From setting clear timelines and pushing back on unrealistic requests to aligning on what “good” actually looks like, we discuss the soft skills and strategic grit it takes to run a hiring process that works. Whether you’ve had to teach someone how to interview (again) or you’re battling hiring freeze whiplash, this one’s for you. Because being a recruiter means you’re not just filling jobs — you’re managing people who think they know how to. Tue, 12 Aug 2025 02:43:00 -0000 full WRKdefined Podcast Network Recruiters aren’t just sourcing resumes — they’re managing expectations, coaching through bias, and sometimes dragging hiring managers across the finish line. In this episode of Talentless, we dig into the real work behind “managing the manager.” From setting clear timelines and pushing back on unrealistic requests to aligning on what “good” actually looks like, we discuss the soft skills and strategic grit it takes to run a hiring process that works. Whether you’ve had to teach someone how to interview (again) or you’re battling hiring freeze whiplash, this one’s for you. Because being a recruiter means you’re not just filling jobs — you’re managing people who think they know how to. Recruiters aren’t just sourcing resumes — they’re managing expectations, coaching through bias, and sometimes dragging hiring managers across the finish line.

In this episode of Talentless, we dig into the real work behind “managing the manager.” From setting clear timelines and pushing back on unrealistic requests to aligning on what “good” actually looks like, we discuss the soft skills and strategic grit it takes to run a hiring process that works.

Whether you’ve had to teach someone how to interview (again) or you’re battling hiring freeze whiplash, this one’s for you. Because being a recruiter means you’re not just filling jobs — you’re managing people who think they know how to.

]]> 3394 no Candidate Experience - with Bonnie Dilber https://rss.com/podcasts/talentless/2086018 In this episode of Talentless, we’re diving headfirst into one of the most overlooked—but most important—parts of the hiring process: the candidate experience. And we brought in one of the most trusted voices in the game to help us do it. Bonnie Dilber joins us to break down why candidate experience isn't just a buzzword, but a core pillar of effective, equitable recruiting. We talk about what a good process actually looks like, what recruiters and hiring managers often get wrong, and how even small shifts can have a big impact. If you’re ready to ditch the ghosting, sharpen your follow-through, and create a journey that candidates remember for all the right reasons, this one’s for you. Mon, 28 Jul 2025 15:50:00 -0000 Candidate Experience - with Bonnie Dilber full 1 6 WRKdefined Podcast Network In this episode of Talentless, we’re diving headfirst into one of the most overlooked—but most important—parts of the hiring process: the candidate experience. And we brought in one of the most trusted voices in the game to help us do it. Bonnie Dilber joins us to break down why candidate experience isn't just a buzzword, but a core pillar of effective, equitable recruiting. We talk about what a good process actually looks like, what recruiters and hiring managers often get wrong, and how even small shifts can have a big impact. If you’re ready to ditch the ghosting, sharpen your follow-through, and create a journey that candidates remember for all the right reasons, this one’s for you. In this episode of Talentless, we’re diving headfirst into one of the most overlooked—but most important—parts of the hiring process: the candidate experience. And we brought in one of the most trusted voices in the game to help us do it.

Bonnie Dilber joins us to break down why candidate experience isn't just a buzzword, but a core pillar of effective, equitable recruiting. We talk about what a good process actually looks like, what recruiters and hiring managers often get wrong, and how even small shifts can have a big impact.

If you’re ready to ditch the ghosting, sharpen your follow-through, and create a journey that candidates remember for all the right reasons, this one’s for you.

]]> 3105 no TA & HR: A Tale of Two Sisters - with Dani Herrera https://rss.com/podcasts/talentless/2115242 They share the same house but don’t always see eye to eye. In this episode, we’re unpacking the long-standing (and sometimes strained) relationship between HR and Talent Acquisition. Our guest, Daniela Herrera, joins us to explore how these two critical functions can move from friction to flow. From legacy hierarchies to modern collaboration, we’ll break down what works, what doesn't, and what it takes to build trust and partnership between teams that need each other more than ever. Whether you're HR, TA, or stuck somewhere in between, this episode will leave you with a clearer picture of where we’ve been, where we are, and how to build better together. Tue, 15 Jul 2025 04:08:57 -0000 TA & HR: A Tale of Two Sisters - with Dani Herrera full 1 8 WRKdefined Podcast Network They share the same house but don’t always see eye to eye. In this episode, we’re unpacking the long-standing (and sometimes strained) relationship between HR and Talent Acquisition. Our guest, Daniela Herrera, joins us to explore how these two critical functions can move from friction to flow. From legacy hierarchies to modern collaboration, we’ll break down what works, what doesn't, and what it takes to build trust and partnership between teams that need each other more than ever. Whether you're HR, TA, or stuck somewhere in between, this episode will leave you with a clearer picture of where we’ve been, where we are, and how to build better together. They share the same house but don’t always see eye to eye.

In this episode, we’re unpacking the long-standing (and sometimes strained) relationship between HR and Talent Acquisition. Our guest, Daniela Herrera, joins us to explore how these two critical functions can move from friction to flow.

From legacy hierarchies to modern collaboration, we’ll break down what works, what doesn't, and what it takes to build trust and partnership between teams that need each other more than ever.

Whether you're HR, TA, or stuck somewhere in between, this episode will leave you with a clearer picture of where we’ve been, where we are, and how to build better together.

]]> 2722 no Talent Tales and Other Hard Lessons Learned https://rss.com/podcasts/talentless/2104563 What are the real lessons no one warns you about when you start recruiting? In this episode of Talentless, we’re talking about the rookie mistakes, unspoken rules, and jaw-dropping moments that shape every recruiter’s first two years. Whether you’re just starting out or reflecting on your own early missteps, we’ve got stories and insights that’ll hit close to home. We’re breaking down the things we wish we knew back then and sharing the takes that still sting (in a good way). Tune in and save yourself a little trial by fire. Mon, 07 Jul 2025 15:48:52 -0000 Talent Tales and Other Hard Lessons Learned full 1 7 WRKdefined Podcast Network What are the real lessons no one warns you about when you start recruiting? In this episode of Talentless, we’re talking about the rookie mistakes, unspoken rules, and jaw-dropping moments that shape every recruiter’s first two years. Whether you’re just starting out or reflecting on your own early missteps, we’ve got stories and insights that’ll hit close to home. We’re breaking down the things we wish we knew back then and sharing the takes that still sting (in a good way). Tune in and save yourself a little trial by fire. What are the real lessons no one warns you about when you start recruiting?

In this episode of Talentless, we’re talking about the rookie mistakes, unspoken rules, and jaw-dropping moments that shape every recruiter’s first two years. Whether you’re just starting out or reflecting on your own early missteps, we’ve got stories and insights that’ll hit close to home.

We’re breaking down the things we wish we knew back then and sharing the takes that still sting (in a good way). Tune in and save yourself a little trial by fire.

]]> 2736 no Recruiters: Good, Bad, and Scammer https://rss.com/podcasts/talentless/2085892 Would you know if the recruiter sliding into your DMs was actually running a scam? This week on Talentless, we’re cracking open the recruiting ecosystem, from the elite talent whisperers changing lives to the shady scammers collecting resumes like Pokémon cards. There are good recruiters. There are lazy ones. And then there are straight-up predators. We’re naming the types, sharing receipts, and giving you the tools to know who you’re really dealing with. Hosts Desiree and Ashley unpack the red flags and green lights, sharing personal stories, real-world examples, and the messy middle ground we’ve all seen too often. We’ll walk through the recruiting spectrum, the strategic matchmakers, the ghosters and spammers, and the phishing frauds pretending to offer you your dream job for a fee. Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:35:42 -0000 Recruiters: Good, Bad, and Scammer full 1 5 WRKdefined Podcast Network Would you know if the recruiter sliding into your DMs was actually running a scam? This week on Talentless, we’re cracking open the recruiting ecosystem, from the elite talent whisperers changing lives to the shady scammers collecting resumes like Pokémon cards. There are good recruiters. There are lazy ones. And then there are straight-up predators. We’re naming the types, sharing receipts, and giving you the tools to know who you’re really dealing with. Hosts Desiree and Ashley unpack the red flags and green lights, sharing personal stories, real-world examples, and the messy middle ground we’ve all seen too often. We’ll walk through the recruiting spectrum, the strategic matchmakers, the ghosters and spammers, and the phishing frauds pretending to offer you your dream job for a fee. Would you know if the recruiter sliding into your DMs was actually running a scam?

This week on Talentless, we’re cracking open the recruiting ecosystem, from the elite talent whisperers changing lives to the shady scammers collecting resumes like Pokémon cards. There are good recruiters. There are lazy ones. And then there are straight-up predators. We’re naming the types, sharing receipts, and giving you the tools to know who you’re really dealing with.

Hosts Desiree and Ashley unpack the red flags and green lights, sharing personal stories, real-world examples, and the messy middle ground we’ve all seen too often. We’ll walk through the recruiting spectrum, the strategic matchmakers, the ghosters and spammers, and the phishing frauds pretending to offer you your dream job for a fee.

]]> 2991 no Niche Roles: Those D*%n Purple Squirrels https://rss.com/podcasts/talentless/2069295 In this episode of Talentless, Ashley King and Desiree Goldey take on the recruiting unicorns of the talent world those hyper-specific, nearly mythical roles we lovingly (and sometimes begrudgingly) call purple squirrels. From wild job descriptions to impossible expectations, they unpack what makes these roles so hard to fill and why companies keep writing them. This episode dives into the tension between business needs and hiring realities, and the creative (and sometimes chaotic) ways recruiters rise to the challenge. If you’ve ever chased a needle in a haystack or been expected to be one this one hits close to home. This episode is part vent session, part strategy huddle, and 100% recruiter realness. Mon, 16 Jun 2025 19:09:31 -0000 Niche Roles: Those D*%n Purple Squirrels full 1 4 WRKdefined Podcast Network In this episode of Talentless, Ashley King and Desiree Goldey take on the recruiting unicorns of the talent world those hyper-specific, nearly mythical roles we lovingly (and sometimes begrudgingly) call purple squirrels. From wild job descriptions to impossible expectations, they unpack what makes these roles so hard to fill and why companies keep writing them. This episode dives into the tension between business needs and hiring realities, and the creative (and sometimes chaotic) ways recruiters rise to the challenge. If you’ve ever chased a needle in a haystack or been expected to be one this one hits close to home. This episode is part vent session, part strategy huddle, and 100% recruiter realness. In this episode of Talentless, Ashley King and Desiree Goldey take on the recruiting unicorns of the talent world those hyper-specific, nearly mythical roles we lovingly (and sometimes begrudgingly) call purple squirrels.

From wild job descriptions to impossible expectations, they unpack what makes these roles so hard to fill and why companies keep writing them. This episode dives into the tension between business needs and hiring realities, and the creative (and sometimes chaotic) ways recruiters rise to the challenge.

If you’ve ever chased a needle in a haystack or been expected to be one this one hits close to home.

This episode is part vent session, part strategy huddle, and 100% recruiter realness.

]]> 2652 no RecOps, it is Sexy - with Jeremy Lyons https://rss.com/podcasts/talentless/2052422 In this episode of Talentless, hosts Ashley King and Desiree Goldey welcome their very first guest: Jeremy Lyons, a recruiting operations pro who’s as smart as he is generous with his time. Together, they dive into the world of RecOps—what it is, why it matters, and how it’s quietly shaping the future of hiring behind the scenes. RecOps (that’s Recruiting Operations, for the uninitiated) isn’t just about fixing broken processes—it’s about building scalable, equitable systems that actually work. Jeremy breaks it all down with humor, humility, and a few spicy truths that only someone who’s been in the trenches can offer. This episode is part crash course, part conversation among friends, and 100% proof that RecOps really is sexy. Mon, 09 Jun 2025 21:26:00 -0000 RecOps, it is Sexy - with Jeremy Lyons full 1 3 WRKdefined Podcast Network In this episode of Talentless, hosts Ashley King and Desiree Goldey welcome their very first guest: Jeremy Lyons, a recruiting operations pro who’s as smart as he is generous with his time. Together, they dive into the world of RecOps—what it is, why it matters, and how it’s quietly shaping the future of hiring behind the scenes. RecOps (that’s Recruiting Operations, for the uninitiated) isn’t just about fixing broken processes—it’s about building scalable, equitable systems that actually work. Jeremy breaks it all down with humor, humility, and a few spicy truths that only someone who’s been in the trenches can offer. This episode is part crash course, part conversation among friends, and 100% proof that RecOps really is sexy. In this episode of Talentless, hosts Ashley King and Desiree Goldey welcome their very first guest: Jeremy Lyons, a recruiting operations pro who’s as smart as he is generous with his time. Together, they dive into the world of RecOps—what it is, why it matters, and how it’s quietly shaping the future of hiring behind the scenes.

RecOps (that’s Recruiting Operations, for the uninitiated) isn’t just about fixing broken processes—it’s about building scalable, equitable systems that actually work. Jeremy breaks it all down with humor, humility, and a few spicy truths that only someone who’s been in the trenches can offer.

This episode is part crash course, part conversation among friends, and 100% proof that RecOps really is sexy.

]]> 2551 no Season One Launch Party - with Mike Peditto https://rss.com/podcasts/talentless/2052418 Talentless Launch: Real Talk. No Filters. With Mike Peditto Get ready for an unfiltered, unapologetic deep dive into the world of recruiting, HR, and everything in between. Join us for the official launch of the Talentless Podcast, hosted by Ashley King and Desiree Goldey, two powerhouse voices in the talent space who are here to say what others won’t. This live event, hosted by talent whisperer and LinkedIn legend Mike Peditto, is more than a podcast kickoff—it’s a behind-the-scenes look at why Talentless was created, what it’s challenging, and how it’s rewriting the rules of HR and recruiting. This isn’t your manager’s HR podcast. This is Talentless. And we’re just getting started. Tue, 03 Jun 2025 15:31:05 -0000 Season One Launch Party - with Mike Peditto bonus 1 WRKdefined Podcast Network Talentless Launch: Real Talk. No Filters. With Mike Peditto Get ready for an unfiltered, unapologetic deep dive into the world of recruiting, HR, and everything in between. Join us for the official launch of the Talentless Podcast, hosted by Ashley King and Desiree Goldey, two powerhouse voices in the talent space who are here to say what others won’t. This live event, hosted by talent whisperer and LinkedIn legend Mike Peditto, is more than a podcast kickoff—it’s a behind-the-scenes look at why Talentless was created, what it’s challenging, and how it’s rewriting the rules of HR and recruiting. This isn’t your manager’s HR podcast. This is Talentless. And we’re just getting started. Talentless Launch: Real Talk. No Filters. With Mike Peditto

Get ready for an unfiltered, unapologetic deep dive into the world of recruiting, HR, and everything in between.

Join us for the official launch of the Talentless Podcast, hosted by Ashley King and Desiree Goldey, two powerhouse voices in the talent space who are here to say what others won’t. This live event, hosted by talent whisperer and LinkedIn legend Mike Peditto, is more than a podcast kickoff—it’s a behind-the-scenes look at why Talentless was created, what it’s challenging, and how it’s rewriting the rules of HR and recruiting.

This isn’t your manager’s HR podcast.

This is Talentless. And we’re just getting started.

]]> 1378 no Merit Myth Busters: Shattering Illusions One Corporate Lie at a Time https://rss.com/podcasts/talentless/2026940 Everyone loves to talk about “meritocracy” in hiring—but what if that’s just a shiny myth masking bias, access, and systemic privilege? In this episode of Talentless, we dig into the uncomfortable truth behind the idea of “earning it.” Featuring real-world examples, messy truths, and a few “I can’t believe they did that” stories from the field, this episode challenges listeners to rethink everything they thought they knew about fairness in hiring. Join us as we break down the realities of what "merit" brings in the corporate sector. Tue, 13 May 2025 16:51:29 -0000 Merit Myth Busters: Shattering Illusions One Corporate Lie at a Time full 1 2 WRKdefined Podcast Network Everyone loves to talk about “meritocracy” in hiring—but what if that’s just a shiny myth masking bias, access, and systemic privilege? In this episode of Talentless, we dig into the uncomfortable truth behind the idea of “earning it.” Featuring real-world examples, messy truths, and a few “I can’t believe they did that” stories from the field, this episode challenges listeners to rethink everything they thought they knew about fairness in hiring. Join us as we break down the realities of what "merit" brings in the corporate sector. Everyone loves to talk about “meritocracy” in hiring—but what if that’s just a shiny myth masking bias, access, and systemic privilege? In this episode of Talentless, we dig into the uncomfortable truth behind the idea of “earning it.”

Featuring real-world examples, messy truths, and a few “I can’t believe they did that” stories from the field, this episode challenges listeners to rethink everything they thought they knew about fairness in hiring.

Join us as we break down the realities of what "merit" brings in the corporate sector.

]]> 2838 no Forget About Us, What About You? https://rss.com/podcasts/talentless/2026925 In the debut episode of Talentless, hosts Ashley King and Desiree Goldey set the stage for a no-holds-barred exploration of the talent industry. This female-led podcast promises to challenge the status quo, offering candid conversations on topics like DEI, workplace culture, and leadership. Ashley and Desiree bring their unique perspectives and experiences to the table, aiming to spark meaningful discussions and drive change in the world of work. This episode serves as a bold introduction to a series that's anything but ordinary. This episode is part accountability session, part pep talk, and 100% real talk. Tue, 13 May 2025 16:42:01 -0000 Forget About Us, What About You? full 1 1 WRKdefined Podcast Network In the debut episode of Talentless, hosts Ashley King and Desiree Goldey set the stage for a no-holds-barred exploration of the talent industry. This female-led podcast promises to challenge the status quo, offering candid conversations on topics like DEI, workplace culture, and leadership. Ashley and Desiree bring their unique perspectives and experiences to the table, aiming to spark meaningful discussions and drive change in the world of work. This episode serves as a bold introduction to a series that's anything but ordinary. This episode is part accountability session, part pep talk, and 100% real talk. In the debut episode of Talentless, hosts Ashley King and Desiree Goldey set the stage for a no-holds-barred exploration of the talent industry. This female-led podcast promises to challenge the status quo, offering candid conversations on topics like DEI, workplace culture, and leadership.

Ashley and Desiree bring their unique perspectives and experiences to the table, aiming to spark meaningful discussions and drive change in the world of work. This episode serves as a bold introduction to a series that's anything but ordinary.

This episode is part accountability session, part pep talk, and 100% real talk.

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