Orange and Brown Talk: Cleveland Browns Podcast

First look at Browns QBs, Todd Monken’s offense and a pivotal NFL Draft: Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 21 Apr 2026 00:36:00 -0000

It’s a new Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast with Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe.

It’s a big week in Browns football, and we’re breaking down everything you need to know ahead of the NFL Draft and the Browns' voluntary minicamp.

First, we preview what to expect at minicamp. We are getting our first glimpse of the highly anticipated quarterback competition and our first look at a full Deshaun Watson practice in 11-on-11 drills since 2024.

How will he, Shedeur Sanders and Dillon Gabriel look as they learn offensive coordinator Todd Monken’s new system?

Then, we dive into the NFL Draft. What moves will give the Browns an "A" grade on Day 1? We discuss potential scenarios at picks No. 6 and 24, including the possibility of trading back, drafting offensive tackles and receivers or taking a flyer on a future franchise quarterback like Ty Simpson.

Plus, we address the persistent trade rumors surrounding Myles Garrett, explain why an Anthony Richardson trade won't happen and reveal if the Browns went after defensive tackle Dexter Lawrence.

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Dueling Browns mock drafts: We make every pick … twice

Sat, 18 Apr 2026 04:01:00 -0000

It’s time for another NFL Draft edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland fire up the draft simulator for a seven-round edition of dueling mock drafts.

Tim and Lance go head-to-head, making their own unique selections and debating their choices for every single Browns draft pick.

From Tim’s overarching strategy of adding offensive playmakers to Lance’s focus on pure difference-makers and matchup winners, this episode covers every possibility for the Browns, including what they would do if GM Andrew Berry decides to trade out of the No. 6 overall pick.

This would be a great episode to watch on YouTube if you haven’t done that yet. Head to our YouTube channel, Cleveland Browns on Cleveland.com, and click on the Podcasts tab.

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Reading between the lines of Andrew Berry’s Browns pre-draft presser

Thu, 16 Apr 2026 23:37:00 -0000

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down everything you need to know from Browns General Manager Andrew Berry’s pre-draft press conference on the latest Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

With the NFL Draft just around the corner, they dig into Berry's most revealing comments and analyze what he strategically left unsaid.

First, they tackle the fascinating quarterback room. Could the Browns snag a developmental arm like Ty Simpson or go after Garrett Nussmeier on Day 3?

Next, they shift focus to offensive playmakers, discussing the potential of drafting an explosive Ohio State wide receiver like Carnell Tate at No. 6. They also explore the intrigue of adding a highly versatile, game-changing running back like Notre Dame’s Jeremiyah Love to ignite the offense.

The conversation then explores the evolving defensive landscape. Will the Browns make a major draft investment in a hybrid safety to combat the league's elite pass-catching tight ends?

Finally, they weigh in on the persistent rumors of Andrew Berry executing his signature move: trading down to accumulate future draft capital.

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Browns trade down to No. 12? Why mock drafts agree

Wed, 15 Apr 2026 22:08:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look at the latest NFL mock drafts and explore the very real possibility of the Browns trading down in the first round.

Top experts like Todd McShay, Dane Brugler, Mel Kiper Jr. and even Ashley all had trade-down mocks come out on Wednesday.

What’s the common thread? They all predict the Browns trading down to the No. 12 spot with the Cowboys. They break down what this blockbuster move could look like, including the potential of acquiring future draft assets or even an extra first-round pick.

They also discuss which players the Browns might target if they make this move, from offensive tackles like Kadyn Proctor and Spencer Fano to dynamic playmakers like Kenyon Sadiq.

They also look back at Andrew Berry's unpredictable draft history to remind us that anything can happen on draft weekend.

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What will Andrew Berry actually tell us before the NFL Draft?

Tue, 14 Apr 2026 21:18:00 -0000

On Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look ahead to Browns GM Andrew Berry's annual pre-draft press conference.

What can we really expect to hear from Berry on Thursday?

They break down what they want to uncover, starting with the No. 6 overall pick. Could the Browns seriously consider drafting Notre Dame's generational dual-threat running back Jeremiyah Love?

They also reflect on last year's Travis Hunter misdirection to figure out how to read the tea leaves this time around.

Next, the discussion pivots to the wide receiver room. Does Berry truly believe Jerry Jeudy, Cedric Tillman and Isaiah Bond will thrive in Todd Monken's new offense, or will he draft a premium wideout?

They also explore the possibility of trading the No. 6 pick for a proven, game-changing veteran receiver or even trading up for top-tier talent.

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Do the Browns have any NFL Draft surprises in store at No. 6? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 13 Apr 2026 23:50:00 -0000

Monday means a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

With the NFL Draft less than two weeks away, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe kick things off by breaking down the Browns' upcoming voluntary bonus minicamp. They discuss what new head coach Todd Monken hopes to glean from these early practices, who might be in attendance and how Monken’s offensive philosophy could influence Andrew Berry’s draft strategy.

Then, they dive into questions from our Football Insider subscribers.

If the Browns stay at the No. 6 overall pick, what is the best play? They evaluate the offensive tackle landscape, the possibility of drafting a premier edge rusher like David Bailey and whether taking wide receiver Carnell Tate or running back Jeremiyah Love is a realistic option. They also explore what it would take for Andrew Berry to trade down to secure future draft capital.

Finally, the conversation heats up with a debate about the quarterback position, as Mary Kay defends her controversial stance on why taking a swing at QB Ty Simpson at No. 6 might be a risk worth taking.

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Browns Draft Mailbag: Best Player vs. Biggest Need at No. 6

Fri, 10 Apr 2026 00:59:00 -0000

Welcome to another NFL Draft edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Host Dan Labbe is joined by Cleveland.com film analyst Lance Reisland, and Cleveland.com draft expert Tim Bielik as they open up the mailbag to answer your pressing Browns draft questions.

With the Browns holding the No. 6 overall pick, they debate a crucial roster-building philosophy: Do you draft to fill a glaring need, or do you take the best difference-maker available?

Reisland pounds the table for a "players over plays" mentality, making his case for drafting elite, field-tilting weapons like Jeremiyah Love or Caleb Downs. Meanwhile, Tim weighs the necessity of shoring up the offensive line with a tackle like Spencer Fano.

The trio discusses how new offensive coordinator Todd Monken's system will influence the front office to target explosive playmakers.

Later in the show, the crew explores under-the-radar Day 3 options. Could the Browns target a mid-round quarterback like Taylen Green or Haynes King just to run creative Wildcat packages?

Who are the best late-round return specialists to completely elevate the special teams unit?

Finally, Tim and Lance place their bets on whether Andrew Berry stays at No. 6 or trades down.

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Todd Monken’s blunt messaging sets tone in Browns offseason

Wed, 08 Apr 2026 23:55:00 -0000

On today’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe check in from the Browns media room as they break down the latest from the team's offseason program.

In this episode, they get into the refreshing, no-nonsense approach of new head coach Todd Monken.

They discuss his blunt honesty regarding player attendance at voluntary workouts, exploring the ongoing debate around star pass rusher Myles Garrett's absence. They weigh the true importance of these spring sessions for building team camaraderie, learning new coaching schemes and setting a winning tone for the franchise.

The conversation also tackles the quarterback competition.

With the offensive installation underway, they talk about why mastering the playbook in the classroom is currently the most crucial step for Deshaun Watson, Shedeur Sanders and potentially Dillon Gabriel.

Plus, hear the story of Monken's haircut "Snap Fu" that caused him to miss out on his very first NFL head coaches' group photo.

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What to expect as the Browns return: QB battle, Monken’s system and early roles

Tue, 07 Apr 2026 22:27:00 -0000

On today’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get you ready for the start of the Browns' offseason program. They break down exactly what to expect as players return to the facility this week.

The biggest storyline? The quarterback competition.

They discuss how Shedeur Sanders and Deshaun Watson are approaching Todd Monken’s new offensive playbook from scratch and what it will take to win over the coaching staff.

Plus, they do their very first vibes check of the year.

How will Monken’s practice intensity, influenced by his time with John Harbaugh, change the feel of spring workouts compared to the Kevin Stefanski era?

They also talk pass catchers, keeping a close eye on Jerry Jeudy’s bounce-back potential and where young playmakers like Isaiah Bond fit into the early depth chart.

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Could the Browns extend Deshaun Watson? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 06 Apr 2026 21:47:00 -0000

It’s a Monday Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, with Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe.

The Browns officially kick off their offseason program on Tuesday and Mary Kay and Dan dive into the biggest storylines surrounding the team as they head back to the facility.

The primary focus of this episode is the highly anticipated quarterback battle between Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders.

Answering questions from our Football Insider subscribers, the duo explores some fascinating thought exercises: What happens if Watson returns to his Pro Bowl form, and would it even be financially possible for the Browns to extend his contract?

On the flip side, what would it mean for the franchise if Shedeur Sanders wins the starting job, and how will opposing defensive coordinators game plan for him now that there is tape out there?

They discuss Todd Monken's evaluation of the offense and why the team desperately needs to add at least two more premier playmakers.

Finally, the talk shifts to the NFL Draft. What would a home run trade look like if the Browns move down from the No. 6 pick? Mary Kay breaks down why acquiring 2027 draft capital might be the team's biggest priority.

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What the Browns revealed this week about the No. 6 pick and their QB competition

Fri, 03 Apr 2026 21:34:00 -0000

On this Friday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe wrap up the week by looking back at the key takeaways from the NFL owners meeting and gearing up for the start of the offseason program in Berea next week.

First, Mary Kay and Dan dive into Andrew Berry's intriguing comments regarding the team's No. 6 overall draft pick. Will the Browns trade back to gather more draft capital for next year, or could a surprise trade-up be in the works? They break down the likelihood of moving the pick and what scenarios could impact that ultimate decision.

Then, the focus shifts to the evolving quarterback competition. With Todd Monken installing his offense, they discuss how mobility will factor into the looming battle between Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders.

They also examine the importance of Watson getting a head start by building chemistry with wide receivers like Jerry Jeudy down in Florida.

Finally, they cover why nobody should write off Dillon Gabriel, who will look to use his high processing speed and competitive drive to make some serious noise during the offseason.

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The 'My Guys' Draft: 10 NFL Draft prospects the Browns have to pick

Thu, 02 Apr 2026 19:24:00 -0000

Welcome to another NFL Draft edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Dan Labbe is joined by Lance Reisland and Tim Bielik for their latest dive into their favorite prospects.

After sharing their dueling big boards last week, Lance and Tim are back to conduct a "My Guys" Draft. They each select five prospects they are absolutely pounding the table for the Browns to pick in the upcoming NFL Draft.

Forget typical draft constraints, this show is about the tape and the players our analysts love. Tim targets aggressive defenders like Indiana corner D’Angelo Ponds and explains why analytics point to certain wide receivers thriving against zone coverage.

Lance puts on his coaching hat to highlight violent trench warriors like Georgia Tech's Keylan Rutledge.

The guys also rapid-fire their favorite honorable mentions to keep an eye on during Day 3 and undrafted free agency.

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What Todd Monken revealed about the Browns QB competition

Tue, 31 Mar 2026 21:18:00 -0000

On the latest episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot joins Dan Labbe for one final check-in from the NFL owners meeting in Phoenix. Before Mary Kay catches her flight back to Ohio, she breaks down everything we learned from Browns coach Todd Monken during his media breakfast.

The burning question on everyone's mind: What is the exact plan for the Browns' quarterback competition?

Mary Kay and Dan discuss Monken’s strong hints that Shedeur Sanders might get the first crack at QB1 reps over Deshaun Watson and Dillon Gabriel. They also dive into why off-season face time with the new coaching staff is critical. While Shedeur has been a regular in the building, building a rapport, Watson has only met Monken once and Gabriel has yet to make an appearance.

With a completely new offensive scheme and a massive learning curve ahead this off-season, is the starting job truly up for grabs?

Plus, get the hilarious behind-the-scenes scoop on exactly why Todd Monken accidentally missed the annual NFL coaches' group photo.

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Could Deshaun Watson actually win the Browns QB job?

Tue, 31 Mar 2026 00:46:00 -0000

On the latest Orange and Brown Talk podcast with Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe, Mary Kay checks in from the NFL owners meeting in Phoenix. Dan and Mary Kay break down the latest updates directly from Jimmy Haslam regarding the Browns' highly anticipated quarterback competition.

They discuss Haslam's effusive praise for Deshaun Watson. Is the former "big swing and a miss" poised to finally be a home run for the Browns?

They discuss Watson's physical condition, his ongoing recovery from multiple Achilles surgeries and why he might currently have the inside track to be the starter on opening day.

They also talk about Shedeur Sanders' physical advantages, his renewed commitment to NFL excellence and the steep learning curve both quarterbacks face as they adapt to Todd Monken’s entirely new offensive scheme.

Will Watson's veteran experience provide the necessary mental edge, or will Sanders' youthful resilience win out?

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Browns GM Andrew Berry shuts down Myles Garrett trade talk: Orange and Brown Talk

Sun, 29 Mar 2026 23:49:00 -0000

On the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot checks in from the NFL Annual Meeting in Phoenix to break down a very busy first day of news.

Mary Kay and Dan Labbe dive into Browns GM Andrew Berry’s availability, where he firmly shut down recent trade speculations surrounding superstar defensive end Myles Garrett. Berry purposefully called Garrett a "career Brown," and Mary Kay provides insight into why the front office remains fully committed to keeping their core championship-caliber defense intact.

Next, the conversation shifts to the quarterback room. Mary Kay unpacks the Browns' draft due diligence on developmental prospects like Ty Simpson and Garrett Nussmeier. Plus, they explore how the wide-open quarterback competition between Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders might play out in new head coach Todd Monken’s system.

Finally, get a preview of what's to come later this week in Arizona, including Jimmy and Dee Haslam's upcoming availability and Todd Monken’s next opportunity to meet with the media.

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Dueling big boards kick off Browns 2026 NFL Draft season

Thu, 26 Mar 2026 04:01:00 -0000

The Orange and Brown Talk podcast kicks off the 2026 NFL Draft season as Dan Labbe reunites the draft crew, Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland.

This episode features dueling big boards, where Tim and Lance go head-to-head, unveiling their Top 10 prospects in a back-and-forth format.

While both experts agree that Ohio State safety Caleb Downs is the consensus No. 1 player, the boards branch off from there.

The episode also includes the usual tangents: Should the Browns select the best player available if Downs falls to them at pick No. 6, or is it more critical to trade down and address significant offensive needs like left tackle and wide receiver?

They get into other top-tier talents, including versatile linebacker Arvell Reese, explosive playmaker Jeremiyah Love and top quarterback prospect Fernando Mendoza.

They break down the strengths and weaknesses of the premier offensive linemen and wide receivers in the class, comparing players like Carnell Tate, Makai Lemon, Francis Mauigoa, and Monroe Freeling.

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The Browns rebuilt their O-line, but did they fix it?

Wed, 25 Mar 2026 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns have been busy this offseason, completely remaking their offensive line. On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe welcomes Lance Reisland to break down all the moves.

Lance dives into the film on the new additions, including right tackle Tytus Howard, guard Zion Johnson and the versatile Elgton Jenkins.

They start by looking back at what went wrong with the line last season, from injuries and a lack of identity to the ongoing quest to replace Bill Callahan. Lance explains how this new group differs from the maulers of the past, focusing more on technique, leverage and savvy play rather than pure brute force. He discusses the importance of availability and how these new players bring a different, more functional approach to the trenches.

They discuss the impact of new offensive line coach George Warhop and why his veteran experience is crucial. They also look ahead to the NFL Draft, debating who the Browns might target if they decide to take a tackle at pick No. 6 or a guard at No. 24.

(Please note: This episode was recorded before any decision was made by Joel Bitonio regarding his future.)

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What are the Browns really doing at quarterback? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 24 Mar 2026 04:01:00 -0000

On a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe tackle the latest Browns buzz, including former receiver Jarvis Landry.

Landry's recent podcast comments about his time in Cleveland and former coach Kevin Stefanski have stirred up debate. Mary Kay provides context to the 2021 season and the dynamics in the building.

They also get into the upcoming NFL Draft.

With Ohio State continuing to produce elite receivers, should that success influence the Browns to draft Carnell Tate at No. 6? They discuss the increasing value of top-tier receivers on rookie contracts.

The draft talk naturally leads to the quarterback position. Should the Browns give Shedeur Sanders the starting job to see what they have, or could a prospect like Alabama's Ty Simpson be a surprise pick?

They break down the potential quarterback battle between Sanders and Deshaun Watson and what it means for the franchise moving forward.

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Smart or settling: Is the Browns’ offseason approach right?

Fri, 20 Mar 2026 04:01:00 -0000

On the latest Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get into the second wave of the Browns' free agency moves.

Mary Kay runs down the list of recent additions, including defensive linemen Kalia Davis and A.J. Epenesa, and they analyzes what these depth signings signal about the team's overall strategy.

The discussion then shifts to the bigger picture. With a Super Bowl-caliber defense, are the Browns making a mistake by not being more aggressive to add offensive firepower?

They debate whether the team is being wisely pragmatic or potentially wasting a prime window. They explore the wide range of possible outcomes for the upcoming season, the impact of the salary cap and the front office's apparent shift to a draft-and-develop philosophy.

Finally, they break down the Browns' unique proposal to the NFL to allow teams to trade draft picks five years into the future. They discuss the NBA-style thinking behind the proposal and how it reflects Andrew Berry's progressive approach to team building.

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Who Are the Browns’ No. 1 seeds after Myles Garrett and Denzel Ward? 4 burning questions

Thu, 19 Mar 2026 04:01:00 -0000

On today’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get into four Browns questions.

Inspired by March Madness, they debate who would join Myles Garrett and Denzel Ward as the four No. 1 seeds in a 64-player roster bracket. Are the other top players established veterans or impressive rookies?

Next, they look into their crystal ball to predict which under-the-radar player will be a major topic of conversation by November. Could it be a speedy receiver or a versatile weapon?

They also analyzes the impact of free agency, discussing which departed or potentially departing players the Browns will miss the most.

Finally, they try to identify the next fan-favorite cult hero, searching for the player ready to capture the hearts of Browns fans.

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First impressions of the Browns’ new additions: Quincy Williams, Tytus Howard and a rebuilt line

Wed, 18 Mar 2026 04:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down their first impressions of the newest Browns after hearing from them in their introductory press conferences.

First, they dive into linebacker Quincy Williams. What did they make of his energetic cheetah mentality and his dynamic personality? They discuss how Williams, with a massive chip on his shoulder after a frustrating final year with the Jets, could thrive in Mike Rutenberg's defensive system. They explore if he could have a career revival similar to other veterans who have joined this defense.

Then, the focus shifts to the rebuilt offensive line and new right tackle Tytus Howard. Mary Kay was surprised by his high praise for rookie Shedeur Sanders, especially given his history blocking for Deshaun Watson during his best seasons. The hosts analyze what his comments mean for the quarterback room and discuss the leadership Howard and Elgton Jenkins will bring to this new line.

Finally, they look at the Browns' overall strategy of blending veteran experience with an exceptionally young roster before a tangent about a meteor and Bigfoot sightings in Northeast Ohio.

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Offense or defense? Breaking down the Browns’ No. 6 pick

Mon, 16 Mar 2026 22:40:00 -0000

The Browns hold the No. 6 pick in the NFL Draft, but their decision might not be as straightforward as it looks.

On this Hey Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe cover everything from the Browns’ NFL Draft, to quarterback plans and the offseason program.

Will Andrew Berry go offense or defense with the No. 6 pick? While a tackle or receiver seems like the logical choice, could a top-rated defensive player like Caleb Downs or Arvell Reese be too good to pass up?

They discuss the unpredictability of the Browns' front office and the very real possibility of trading down to acquire future assets, especially with an eye on next year's quarterback class.

The conversation then shifts to the revamped offensive line.

With Tytus Howard confirming he's the right tackle, what does the future hold for Dawand Jones?

They also break down the versatility of players like Elgton Jenkins and the ongoing questions at center and guard.

Plus, they get into the quarterback competition between Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders, how Todd Monken will build his new scheme around his starter and why this year's offseason program is more critical than ever.

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Meet 3 of the Browns' newest additions

Sat, 14 Mar 2026 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns introduced three of their free agent signings on Friday in Zoom calls with local reporters.

Linebacker Quincy Williams, guard/center Elgton Jenkins and guard Zion Johnson all answered questions from reporters.

On this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, listen to edited versions of those press conferences, featuring the best of what the three had to say and more.

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Shedeur Sanders’ opportunity, O-line rebuild and the plan at No. 6: Hey, Mary Kay!

Fri, 13 Mar 2026 04:01:00 -0000

On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe dive into questions from Football Insider subscribers following the first wave of free agency.

They start by analyzing the Browns' revamped offensive line. While PFF grades for the new additions may be concerning, Mary Kay and Dan explain why the collective fit is more important than individual ratings and discuss how Joel Bitonio’s pending retirement decision impacts the team’s plans.

The conversation then shifts to the pivotal quarterback situation. They explore the ideal scenario for the Browns: Shedeur Sanders seizing the starting role and proving he’s the franchise quarterback, a “lottery ticket” outcome that would solve many future problems. This is contrasted with the complicated decisions the team would face if Deshaun Watson returns to form.

Finally, they look ahead to the NFL Draft, debating whether the Browns will take the best player available at pick No. 6. They discuss which positions the team views as premium and whether they should target a game-changing wide receiver, a trench player or another position entirely to elevate the roster.

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Did Andrew Berry fix the Browns’ offensive line? Plus the latest on a Shedeur Sanders-Deshaun Watson QB battle

Thu, 12 Mar 2026 00:24:00 -0000

The new league year is here, and Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are breaking down all the latest Browns moves on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They start by grading Andrew Berry's aggressive overhaul of the offensive line, analyzing the additions of players like Tytus Howard and Zion Johnson. Did the GM ace his biggest offseason assignment?

The crew then shifts to the remaining needs on offense, debating whether the Browns have done enough to improve their weapons.

They discuss the state of the wide receiver room and whether the team can rely on its current players, like Jerry Jeudy and Ced Tillman, to step up under new head coach and play-caller Todd Monken.

The quarterback situation is also a hot topic, as they explore the likelihood of the Browns entering the season with a competition between Shedeur Sanders and Deshaun Watson.

Finally, they provide an important update on Joel Bitonio, explaining why the veteran guard has earned the right to take his time with his retirement decision and what his future means for the newly constructed line.

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Browns rebuilding the offensive line, then breaking NFL news crashes the podcast

Wed, 11 Mar 2026 01:25:00 -0000

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are back to recap Day 2 of free agency on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, an episode that went off the rails in the best way possible.

They start by diving deep into the Browns' offensive line rebuild, analyzing the new additions of Elgton Jenkins and re-signing of Teven Jenkins. They discuss what the starting five might look like and what these moves could mean for Joel Bitonio's future with the team.

Then, in a wild turn of events, major NFL news breaks mid-recording. Listen to their real-time reaction as they learn that the Baltimore Ravens have backed out of the blockbuster trade for Maxx Crosby due to a failed physical. They break down the immediate implications for the Raiders, the Ravens and the potential domino effect across the entire league as free agency continues.

The episode wraps up with a look at the Browns' pass-catchers and whether the team still needs to make a significant addition to the receiver room.

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Browns make their first moves in free agency: What do they mean

Tue, 10 Mar 2026 02:38:00 -0000

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are breaking down all the action from Day 1 of the NFL's legal tampering period on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

The Browns made two significant moves, signing former Chargers guard Zion Johnson and Jets linebacker Quincy Williams.

We get into how both players fit, with a special focus on Williams' connection to new defensive coordinator Mike Rutenberg and how Johnson brings much-needed durability to the offensive line.

We also discuss how the Williams signing came together after the Browns lost Devin Bush to the Bears.

But what about the moves the Browns didn't make?

Should they have been more aggressive in pursuing quarterback Malik Willis, who landed in Miami? We debate whether passing on Willis was a mistake.

Plus, the wide receiver room is still a question mark. Is a trade for Jacksonville's Brian Thomas a realistic possibility? We look at Andrew Berry's history of trading for receivers and what the team might do next to add weapons to the offense before the NFL Draft.

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Should the Browns make a run at Malik Willis?

Fri, 06 Mar 2026 20:12:00 -0000

On this Friday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dive into the Browns' latest offseason move: the annual restructuring of Deshaun Watson's contract.

They explain why this was a necessary bookkeeping move to get under the salary cap and how it frees up money for free agency.

The crew discusses how this strategy, while common for teams with high-priced quarterbacks, stings more when you haven't gotten elite performance in return.

With new cap space, the focus shifts to the quarterback position.

Should the Browns make a bold, aggressive run at free agent Malik Willis, a player they nearly drafted in 2022? The hosts debate the pros, cons and potential price tag.

They also look ahead to the NFL Draft, breaking down the early top-30 visit from Alabama QB Ty Simpson.

They analyze his connection to offensive coordinator Todd Monken and where he could land in the draft.

Plus, they discuss another key visitor, top wide receiver prospect Carnell Tate, and what it means for the Browns' plans with their first-round pick.

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How the Browns new coordinators can change the game

Thu, 05 Mar 2026 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are back in Berea to break down the introductory press conferences for the Browns' new coordinators.

First up: Defensive Coordinator Mike Rutenberg, who lived up to his high-octane reputation.

They discuss his energetic, emotional style, his philosophy of playing violent football and the invaluable addition of veteran coach Dom Capers to his staff. They analyze how Rutenberg plans to follow the tough act of Jim Schwartz by focusing on relationship-building.

Next, they turn to new Offensive Coordinator Travis Switzer. They explore his complementary role to head coach and play-caller Todd Monken, his expertise in the run game and the coaching staff's belief that a new system can elevate players like Jerry Jeudy.

They also get into the quarterback situation, the team's public support for Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders and whether a big move could still happen.

Finally, they touch on new Special Teams Coordinator Byron Storer and the challenge he faces in fixing a unit that was a major liability last season.

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Should the Browns chase Kyler Murray? Breaking down the fit and the risk

Wed, 04 Mar 2026 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe react to the news that the Cardinals are releasing quarterback Kyler Murray.

They discuss whether the Browns should pursue the former No. 1 overall pick, weighing his tantalizing mobility and talent against the red flags of his health and consistency.

They also debate the Browns' other quarterback options.

Should they stand pat and let Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders compete? Is Malik Willis a realistic target, or will he be too expensive? Could taking a flyer on a raw but talented prospect like Anthony Richardson be a worthwhile gamble for Todd Monken to develop?

Finally, they look ahead to the introductory press conferences for the Browns' new coordinators. What are they most interested in hearing from new defensive coordinator Mike Rutenberg and offensive coordinator Travis Switzer.

They touch on the influence of veteran coach Dom Capers and what the hiring of Switzer, a former run game coordinator from Baltimore, says about the team's offensive philosophy for the upcoming season.

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Browns make their first big move: What it means for the draft and at QB

Tue, 03 Mar 2026 05:01:00 -0000

On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe are back from the NFL Combine and ready to break down the latest Browns news.

They start with the team's first big offseason move: the trade for offensive lineman Tytus Howard, which includes a three-year, $63 million extension.

How does this acquisition impact the Browns' draft strategy? Dan and Mary Kay discuss whether the team will still target a top offensive tackle or if this move gives them the flexibility to address other needs.

The conversation then shifts to the most-talked-about position: quarterback.

The hosts analyze the open competition plan and debate whether the starting job will come down to a battle between Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders.

They explore why new head coach Todd Monken would prefer to have his QB1 decided before training camp begins.

With free agency and the draft approaching, they also touch on other potential quarterback scenarios, the unlikelihood of landing Malik Willis and the general unpredictability of the NFL offseason. Listen for all the post-combine analysis and insider insight on how the Browns' roster is beginning to take shape.

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Is there a quarterback for the Browns in this draft?

Sat, 28 Feb 2026 05:01:00 -0000

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are wrapping up their week at the NFL Combine, but first it’s a Friday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Today it’s all about the quarterback and wide receiver prospects.

The main discussion centers on Alabama QB Ty Simpson. Mary Kay shares her positive first impressions and details his interesting connection to Browns head coach Todd Monken through his father.

The crew debates how far Simpson would have to fall for the Browns to draft him and if he's a realistic option to challenge Shedeur Sanders.

They also explore the "damaged goods" nature of this QB class, looking at potential value picks on Day 2 or 3 like Garrett Nussmeier and Medina native Drew Allar, both of whom have shown flashes of high-end talent.

The conversation then shifts to the deep wide receiver class. Ashley details her interview with Jordyn Tyson, the brother of Cavs player Jaylon Tyson, and his potential as a precise route runner.

Finally, they debate the Browns' biggest draft needs, weighing the value of taking a premium receiver like Carnell Tate at pick No. 6 versus addressing the offensive line.

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What can we believe about the Browns’ QB plans?

Fri, 27 Feb 2026 04:10:00 -0000

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are are still at the NFL Combine, but first they take a pod to reset some of what they’ve heard the first three days on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

The Browns quarterback room is the main topic of conversation. With Andrew Berry and Todd Monken heaping praise on both Shedeur Sanders and Deshaun Watson, is a training camp battle inevitable? Or could the front office have another move up its sleeve?

They discuss if the public comments are genuine or a smokescreen for a bigger move, like a trade for former first-round pick Anthony Richardson. They debate whether adding another QB would muddy the waters or if it's the type of move to expect from Berry.

Then, the conversation shifts to the defense and a key upcoming free agent: linebacker Devin Bush.

After a career-revitalizing season, is bringing Bush back the team's No. 1 priority?

Mary Kay explains why he's so important to the defense, his journey back from a torn ACL and what his next contract could look like. The group analyzes how his performance has been a huge win for the front office and why continuity on defense is crucial heading into next season.

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How much does Todd Monken believe in the Browns QB room? Day 2 combine recap

Thu, 26 Feb 2026 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe check in from the NFL Combine to break down everything from new head coach Todd Monken's highly anticipated press conference.

The crew discusses how Monken's refreshing, candid and genuine style is a significant change of pace from the buttoned-up approach of his predecessor, Kevin Stefanski.

A major topic of discussion was the quarterback room. Monken offered glowing praise for Shedeur Sanders, calling him an "elite playmaker" and stating unequivocally that he could be ready to start Week 1.

The hosts also analyze Monken's comments on Deshaun Watson. They explore the coach's open-mindedness and confidence in his ability to rekindle Watson's past success, while also considering the significant physical hurdles Watson must overcome after multiple major surgeries.

The conversation also touches on the young, energetic coaching staff Monken has assembled, including new DC Mike Rutenberg, and the overall feeling that "Todd is just Todd."

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Did Andrew Berry give Browns fans any clues about quarterback? Combine Day 1 recap

Wed, 25 Feb 2026 04:48:00 -0000

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley and Dan Labbe are at the NFL Combine in Indianapolis all week on the ⁠Orange and Brown Talk podcast⁠.

The crew breaks down everything from ⁠Browns⁠ GM Andrew Berry's press conference. While Berry didn't reveal all his cards, the quarterback position was front and center. They discuss the ongoing competition between Shedeur Sanders and Deshaun Watson, and Berry's confirmation that the team is exploring all external options, including names like Malik Willis and Ty Simpson.

With Berry open to a training camp battle, it's clear that anything can happen.

The conversation then shifts to the highly anticipated press conference with new head coach Todd Monken. Will his "loose cannon" style provide more definitive answers on the offense?

Plus, the hosts dive into other key takeaways from Berry's availability, including a potential overhaul of the offensive line, the uncertain future of cornerback Martin Emerson Jr. following his Achilles injury and the unfortunate news regarding linebacker Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah's career.

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A JOK update, Deshaun Watson’s chances and QB options: Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 23 Feb 2026 05:01:00 -0000

On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe get you ready for the NFL Combine.

First, they start with some unfortunate news on linebacker Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah. Mary Kay has an update on his status after his scary neck injury, and it's not what Browns fans want to hear.

Then, they dive into the quarterback position. What are the pros and cons of the Browns pursuing a free agent like Malik Willis? Would he immediately become the starter over Deshaun Watson and Shedeur Sanders?

Speaking of Watson, they discuss his chances of returning to the field, noting that he's healthy and has been told he will have a chance to compete for the starting job.

Finally, they look at the NFL Draft and a listener question about drafting two offensive linemen in the first round. With the Browns needing to rebuild in the trenches, could they use both of their first-round picks to address the offensive line?

It's a packed episode to get you ready for a week of news from Indianapolis.

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Browns NFL Draft preview: Tackles, sleepers and the Caleb Downs debate

Fri, 20 Feb 2026 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe dive into the 2026 NFL Draft.

They start in the trenches, breaking down the top offensive tackle prospects like Spencer Fano from Utah and Francis Mauigoa from Miami. Lance explains why he values 'nastiness' and a love for the game over pure analytics when scouting linemen, and they identify some Day 2 and Day 3 sleepers.

Then, the conversation shifts to the skill positions, including Jordyn Tyson, Makai Lemon and Carnell Tate.

Of course, the guys have the mandatory Cleveland media discussion: Should the Browns take Ohio State safety Caleb Downs at No. 6? They debate the philosophy of drafting the best player available versus a premier position of need like offensive tackle.

The episode wraps with a look at the quarterback class, discussing why a player like Garrett Nussmeier might be a forgotten man and what to make of Alabama's Ty Simpson.

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Andrew Berry faces biggest test yet in rebuilding Browns offense

Thu, 19 Feb 2026 05:01:00 -0000

On the latest Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are looking ahead to the NFL Combine. They discuss the challenges of covering the event and how it kicks off a crucial offseason for the Browns.

The conversation turns to the offensive line, a major area of need. After a successful 2025 draft, can Andrew Berry hit on positions like O-line and wide receiver where he's had misses in the past?

They shift to the other side of the ball to break down the hiring of new defensive coordinator Mike Rutenberg. They discuss why the first-time play-caller is a good fit to continue the Jim Schwartz system. They explain why that continuity is vital for the success of Myles Garrett and the rest of the defense. Plus, Ashley shares a story about being on a Frontier flight with no Wi-Fi when the news broke.

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Inside Mike Rutenberg’s defense: How it compares to Jim Schwartz’s system

Wed, 18 Feb 2026 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Lance Riesland joins Dan Labbe to break down the Browns' hiring of new defensive coordinator Mike Rutenberg.

Lance dives into what he's seen on film, explaining how Rutenberg's philosophy is similar to Jim Schwartz's with its aggressive front, but will feature more schematic differences.

The guys also tackle the challenges Rutenberg faces as a first-time play-caller and discuss the decision to move on from Schwartz. They look at specific players, including what Martin Emerson Jr.'s role could be in a crowded cornerback room and the potential for Denzel Ward to travel with top receivers more often.

Finally, they shift to the offense, exploring what new head coach Todd Monken will prioritize this offseason, from fixing a potentially depleted offensive line to maximizing the talent of receivers like Isaiah Bond.

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Why the Browns chose Mike Rutenberg as defensive coordinator

Tue, 17 Feb 2026 01:13:00 -0000

On a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe dive into the Browns' hiring of new defensive coordinator, Mike Rutenberg.

They start by discussing why the Browns opted for a first-time coordinator and how Rutenberg's experience under coaches like Robert Saleh will allow him to run a system similar to Jim Schwartz's.

Mary Kay and Dan also explore the importance of keeping the defensive staff in place for a smooth transition and the challenge Rutenberg faces in earning the trust of veteran players who were loyal to Schwartz.

Then, the conversation shifts to offseason roster questions.

They look at the future of cornerback Martin Emerson Jr., who is recovering from a ruptured Achilles, and whether there's a place for him with the emergence of Tyson Campbell.

Finally, with the NFL Draft on the horizon, they answer a subscriber's question about whether the Browns might trade down from the No. 6 overall pick to accumulate more draft capital.

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Is Shedeur Sanders already QB1? We answer our listeners’ questions

Fri, 13 Feb 2026 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe turn the show over to their Football Insider subscribers. They tackle a series of true/false, agree/disagree and fill-in-the-blank questions covering the biggest offseason topics for the Browns.

The discussion kicks off with the search for a new defensive coordinator. Will the Browns promote from within and name Jason Tarver, or will they bring in an external candidate like Cory Undlin?

Mary Kay and Dan also debate whether the Browns' dominant defense is due for a step back next season.

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the quarterback room. Will Shedeur Sanders be the de facto Week 1 starter?

The hosts break down the "it factor" Sanders showed in key moments, his uncanny accuracy and the unknowns surrounding Deshaun Watson's return from injury.

They also look at the offensive line's future, predict Andrew Berry's top free agency targets and close with a fascinating question: Will Kevin Stefanski's Falcons win a playoff game before the Browns do?

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Browns QB search: Is Malik Willis the perfect fit for Todd Monken?

Thu, 12 Feb 2026 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, and Dan Labbe dive into the biggest question facing the Browns this offseason: Who will be their quarterback?

The conversation kicks off with a deep dive into the most intriguing external option, Malik Willis. The crew discusses if his dual-threat skill set is the perfect match for new head coach Todd Monken's system, but they also weigh the significant financial commitment and risk involved with his limited playing time.

With other teams like the Miami Dolphins reportedly interested, will the Browns even have a shot?

Then they pivot to the internal options, debating whether the team is better off exploring what they have in Shedeur Sanders or the recovering Deshaun Watson, who has recently started throwing again.

Could a new offensive system finally unlock the elite player Watson once was?

They also touch on veteran free agents like Kirk Cousins and Derek Carr and analyze the front office's philosophy of turning over every stone to find the right answer at the most important position in football.

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David Njoku out for the Browns: Reflecting on 9 years and a new TE1

Wed, 11 Feb 2026 05:01:00 -0000

It's the end of an era in Cleveland as David Njoku says farewell after nine seasons. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe react to the news that the tight end will not be re-signing with the Browns, a move that wasn't a surprise but is still tough for many fans.

The crew discusses how the emergence of Harold Fannin Jr. as the new TE1 and the team's youth movement signaled the writing was on the wall. They look back at Njoku's fascinating Browns career, from being drafted at just 20 years old and maturing on the job to his memorable on-field moments and his unique, fun-loving personality that made him a fan favorite.

Was his full potential ever realized in Cleveland? The hosts debate his ups and downs, the impact of inconsistent QB play and what his departure means as the Browns officially close the book on this era and focus on building a new core through the draft.

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Browns offseason begins: QB questions, Jim Schwartz fallout and lessons from the Super Bowl

Tue, 10 Feb 2026 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the ⁠Orange and Brown Talk podcast⁠, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe dive headfirst into the ⁠Browns⁠' offseason now that the Super Bowl is in the rearview mirror.

They kick things off by analyzing the lessons the Browns can learn from the Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks' defense-first strategy and what it means for finding the right quarterback.

This sparks a deep dive into the Browns' most pressing questions, starting with the QB position. Should they swing for the fences and trade multiple first-round picks for a top draft prospect like Fernando Mendoza? Or is the answer already in the building?

Mary Kay and Dan discuss the future of Deshaun Watson, the fan base's complicated relationship with him, and the organization's desire to salvage the trade.

They also tackle the Shedeur Sanders situation and whether he is the definitive QB1.

And, of course, there’s the fallout from Jim Schwartz's sudden resignation and the contract situation that follows.

Finally, they gauge the fan base's confidence in new head coach Todd Monken and the immense pressure on him to fix the offense and choose the right quarterback to lead it.

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Jim Schwartz resigns: What went wrong and what's next for the Browns?

Fri, 06 Feb 2026 20:27:00 -0000

Browns defensive coordinator resigned from his position, deciding not to remain on new head coach Todd Monken's staff after he was passed over for the job. It ends a tumultuous two weeks that capped the Browns' head coaching search.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe react to the news on this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They start by talking about if there was a scenario where things could have worked out for Schwartz with the Browns and why it went sideways.

Then they look at some of the Browns options to replace Schwartz. Will they look internally or will they find someone on the outside to replace him?

They also talk about Myles Garrett winning his second Defensive Player of the Year award and Carson Schwesinger winning Defensive Rookie of the Year.

Then they share their thoughts on the Super Bowl.

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Is Todd Monken the right coach for the Browns at the right time?

Thu, 05 Feb 2026 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns introduced Todd Monken as their new head coach on Tuesday, ushering in a new era as they continue to restock their roster with young talent this offseason.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talked about what Monken had to say on Tuesday on this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast and what the Browns need to focus on to get the offense right for him this offseason.

They start by talking about if Monken’s approach will be a welcome change for the franchise and the lessons he’ll still need to learn, even at 60 years old.

Then they dig into the areas the Browns need to attack on the offensive side of the ball.

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Todd Monken’s big questions: Jim Schwartz’s future and a murky Browns QB room

Wed, 04 Feb 2026 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down the introductory press conference for new head coach Todd Monken and dive into the two biggest questions facing the Browns.

First, they tackle the uncertain future of defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz. After being passed over for the head coaching job, will he return?

They discuss the potential for an “explosive situation” if a partnership is forced and whether Monken is equipped to handle the dynamic. With Schwartz’s options limited to returning or retiring, the hosts debate if the Browns should let him go or hold him to his contract.

Then, the conversation shifts to the offense and the murky quarterback room Monken inherits.

The hosts explore the possibility of Monken fixing Deshaun Watson and salvaging the controversial trade, noting the coach’s intrigue with the talented QB. They also discuss the supreme confidence of Shedeur Sanders and how Monken’s tough, old-school coaching style will create a new dynamic and a potential two-man competition for the starting job this offseason.

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Should the Browns do whatever it takes to keep Jim Schwartz? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 02 Feb 2026 22:07:00 -0000

New Browns head coach Todd Monken is working on putting together his staff, but the biggest piece of the puzzle is still unknown.

Defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz and the Browns are in a bit of a standoff and that’s where Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start on a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Should the Browns hold firm on not letting Schwartz leave and convince him to come back or would they be better off letting him go and moving on?

They also discuss the quarterback situation and if Deshaun Watson really is a viable option for the Browns in 2026.

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What Todd Monken’s arrival means for Shedeur Sanders, Deshaun Watson and the Browns

Sat, 31 Jan 2026 05:01:00 -0000

On a weekend edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start by discussing Twitter post that shook Berea -- new head coach Todd Monken's arrival and his enthusiastic greeting of quarterback Shedeur Sanders, reigniting the conversation about the team's future under center.

The crew analyzes the potential quarterback competition between Sanders and a healthy Deshaun Watson, exploring how Monken, a renowned quarterback whisperer, might unlock the best in either player.

Lance Reisland also joined the show. As a long-time admirer of Monken's work, Reisland provides analysis on his coaching philosophy, breaking down his flexible, player-focused schemes and why he's a great fit in Cleveland.

They discuss which offensive players stand to benefit the most from the new system and what the Browns' biggest offseason needs are, from the offensive line to skill positions.

Then Lance and Dan do a draft of snow day activities.

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Is Todd Monken the right hire? Making sense of the Browns’ choice

Fri, 30 Jan 2026 04:33:00 -0000

On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe continue discussing the Browns' hiring of Todd Monken.

They tackle the mixed reactions from the fan base, with Mary Kay making a strong case for the hire. She contrasts Monken’s extensive, proven track record of offensive success in Baltimore and Tampa Bay with the high-risk nature of hiring a younger, less experienced candidate.

The conversation also explores the significant fallout from the coaching change, including the uncertain future of defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz and how star player Myles Garrett might react to his potential departure. They discuss how Monken must navigate these delicate situations to unite the team.

Finally, as a Pro Football Hall of Fame voter, Mary Kay provides a rare inside look into the controversial voting process that led to Bill Belichick not being a first-ballot inductee. She explains the complexities of the system, her disappointment in the outcome, and why she believes changes are necessary for the future.

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Why did the Browns choose Todd Monken?

Thu, 29 Jan 2026 02:57:00 -0000

The Browns hired Todd Monken as their 19th head coach, and Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are here to break it all down on the latest Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They discuss their initial reactions to a hire that wasn't at the top of many lists but was a name Mary Kay insisted was in the running until the very end.

They dive into Monken's impressive resume, his old-school, no-nonsense coaching style and why the Browns may have opted for his experience over younger, unproven candidates.

They also get into the fallout from passing on defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz. Will Schwartz leave the team, and how would the locker room react?

They debate whether Monken is the right man to handle that potential crisis and the larger task of rebuilding the offense around an uncertain quarterback situation. They also discuss the pressure on GM Andrew Berry to get this right and supply Monken with the talent he needs to succeed.

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Where do things stand in the Browns coaching search after Nate Scheelhaase's interview?

Tue, 27 Jan 2026 00:41:00 -0000

On this edition of the ⁠Orange and Brown Talk podcast⁠, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe try to keep up with everything happening in the Browns' head coaching search.

Jaguars offensive coordinator Grant Udinski pulled himself from consideration on the same day the Browns flew to Los Angeles to meet with Rams pass game coordinator Nate Scheelhaase.

Then the Buffalo Bills requested an interview with Scheelhaase while his lengthy session with the Browns was ongoing.

And, by the time you hear this, maybe everything has been resolved.

Either way, on our Monday podcast, Mary Kay and Dan check in and try to make sense of things as the coaching search nears the finish line.

Listen as they talk through the latest in the Browns’ quest to find a new top man for their organization.

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The Browns’ coaching search is narrowing and getting complicated

Fri, 23 Jan 2026 05:01:00 -0000

On this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe navigate the increasingly chaotic Browns coaching search.

With Jesse Minter out, they discuss the remaining candidates and the complex scenarios ahead.

Could Jim Schwartz get the job by default, or will he issue an ultimatum to the front office?

They explore the potential ripple effects of Schwartz's future, including the impact on star player Myles Garrett. They also analyze the standing of other candidates like Todd Monken, Grant Udinski and Nathan Scheelhaase.

Listen as they talk through the latest in the Browns’ quest to find a new top man for their organization.

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Browns coaching search reset: Young innovator or proven veteran?

Thu, 22 Jan 2026 00:26:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reset the Browns' ongoing head coaching search.

With Mike McDaniel backing out to take the Chargers' OC job and Tommy Rees joining Kevin Stefanski in Atlanta, the interview schedule is shifting.

They discuss the upcoming second interviews with candidates like Jesse Minter, Grant Udinski and Nate Scheelhaase.

The central debate revolves around the pros and cons of hiring a young, offensive-minded innovator versus a more experienced veteran coach like Jim Schwartz or Todd Monken.

They analyze the relatively thin resumes of the younger candidates and stress the importance of building a strong, veteran support staff around a first-time head coach.

The conversation also explores Kevin Stefanski's new situation in Atlanta, as he gets the band back together with former Browns coaches. They highlight how his success, much like the future of the Browns' next coach, will ultimately depend on finding a solution at the all-important quarterback position.

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What Mike McDaniel’s exit means for the Browns + Baker Mayfield vs. Kevin Stefanski

Wed, 21 Jan 2026 03:37:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe react to a chaotic night in the Browns' head coaching search.

The big news is that Mike McDaniel has withdrawn his name from consideration, just a day before his scheduled in-person interview. The crew discusses the massive implications of this decision, including how it complicates the Browns' need to satisfy the Rooney Rule and what it says about the appeal of the Cleveland job, especially given the uncertainty at quarterback.

They also touch on other candidates like Todd Monken, Jim Schwartz and the young offensive minds still in the running.

Then, the podcast takes a detour to discuss some drama involving a former Browns quarterback and a former Browns coach.

Baker Mayfield took to social media to call out Kevin Stefanski, who is now the head coach in Atlanta. The hosts revisit the fractured relationship between the two from the 2021 season, referencing Mary Kay's reporting from that time, and discuss the new rivalry brewing in the NFC South.

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Browns coaching search update: Sean McDermott, second interviews and what’s next

Mon, 19 Jan 2026 23:26:00 -0000

On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start with the surprising news of Sean McDermott’s firing from the Buffalo Bills and what it means for the Browns' head coaching search.

As the Browns enter Week 3 of their search and begin second interviews, a proven winner is now on the market. Mary Kay explains why the Browns will likely at least kick the tires on McDermott.

The conversation also highlights the biggest challenge facing the Browns: their murky quarterback situation.

They discuss how the uncertainty surrounding Shedeur Sanders and Deshaun Watson could make top candidates hesitant.

They also talk about how the now-vacant Bills job, with a superstar quarterback in Josh Allen, instantly becomes one of the most attractive openings.

Even without a stable quarterback situation, is the Browns’ talented defense enough of a selling point to overcome the questions on offense.

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Is Jim Schwartz the clear frontrunner in the Browns’ coaching search?

Fri, 16 Jan 2026 22:29:00 -0000

On a Friday episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk Browns defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz getting the first second interview in the team’s coaching search.

They discuss why he's a popular choice with players and fans, representing the path of least resistance by keeping the team's dominant defense intact. They explore what his promotion would mean for the team's identity and the necessary overhaul on the offensive side of the ball.

They also cover the other dominoes, including Todd Monken getting a second interview and the uncertain future of offensive coordinator Tommy Rees.

Will the Browns look to build on their defensive strength and find a quarterback they can win with, or will another candidate emerge from their ongoing interviews?

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Browns coaching search reset: Life after John Harbaugh and the candidates who make sense

Fri, 16 Jan 2026 05:01:00 -0000

On Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe react to John Harbaugh taking the head coaching job with the Giants. They discuss why the Giants were a more attractive destination and why the Browns never really got a chance to make their pitch.

Then, they reset the Browns' coaching search and take a deep dive into some of the top candidates.

They discuss the pros and cons of hiring a defensive-minded coach like Rams DC Chris Shula and how his 3-4 scheme would fit with the Browns' current personnel.

They also look at the young, up-and-coming offensive candidates, including Jaguars OC Grant Udinski and Bengals offensive coordinator Dan Pitcher, and wonder if the Browns' uncertain quarterback situation will be a deterrent.

Finally, they discuss internal candidates like Tommy Rees and what the future might hold for the staff as the search continues.

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What the Browns’ QB strategy looks like after Dante Moore’s decision

Thu, 15 Jan 2026 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dive into the news of quarterback Dante Moore returning to Oregon and its impact on the Browns.

They discuss how a thinning quarterback draft class complicates the Browns' plans at the No. 6 pick and potentially increases the likelihood of Shedeur Sanders competing for the starting job in 2026.

They talk about the ripple effects across the draft, exploring potential strategies for Andrew Berry, from trading back to targeting a sleeper prospect like Garrett Nussmeier.

They also debate the necessity for the Browns to continue taking swings at the quarterback position, whether through the draft or by acquiring another veteran to compete with Sanders, Dillon Gabriel and Deshaun Watson.

Later, the podcast shifts to the latest updates on the Browns' coaching search. Mary Kay provides insights into the team's interview schedule, including candidates like Jesse Minter and the plan to request an interview with Chris Shula.

They break down how the broader coaching carousel, featuring names like John Harbaugh and Mike McDaniel, could create a domino effect and influence the Browns' final decision.

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A changing AFC North and a critical moment for the Browns

Wed, 14 Jan 2026 05:01:00 -0000

A seismic shift has rocked the AFC North. With Mike Tomlin stepping down as the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers after 19 years, the division's landscape is changing dramatically.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe kick off the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by breaking down the monumental news and what it means for the Browns. They discuss the changing of the guard with both Tomlin and John Harbaugh gone from their long-tenured posts, creating a massive opportunity for the Browns to seize the moment and return to respectability in a now wide-open division.

Then, Lance Reisland joins the show for a deep dive into the Browns' coaching search. Lance provides detailed scouting reports on some of the top candidates, both well-known and under-the-radar.

He talks with Dan about the potential fits of Cincinnati's Dan Pitcher, Jacksonville's young offensive coordinator Grant Udinski, the Rams' Nathan Scheelhaase and Miami's Mike McDaniel.

They weigh the risks and rewards of hiring a young, brilliant mind versus a more established coach and discuss what it takes to succeed as a head coach in the NFL.

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Inside the Browns’ crowded coaching search: McDaniel, Schwartz and the dominoes ahead

Tue, 13 Jan 2026 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe get into the latest on the Browns’ head coaching search.

The big news is Mike McDaniel's interview, and they break down the Browns' long-standing admiration for his "offensive wizardry" and brilliant football mind.

They explore the crowded and eclectic field of candidates, from rising offensive stars like the Rams' Nathan Nathan Scheelhaase and the very young Jaguars' OC, Grant Udinski, to established defensive coordinators like their own Jim Schwartz.

They get into the future of Schwartz -- Will he stay as DC if he doesn't get the top job, and how would his departure impact Myles Garrett?

Answering questions from Football Insider subscribers, they tackle the challenges young coaches face when leaping to the head coach role, the viability of a defensive-minded leader in today's NFL and where former coach Kevin Stefanski might land.

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How recent firings changed the Browns’ coaching search

Fri, 09 Jan 2026 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe catch up on the Browns' head coaching search, which has been shaken up by recent firings.

First, they discuss the newly available Mike McDaniel. They analyze his reputation as a brilliant and creative offensive mind, his success elevating the Dolphins' offense and his previous history with the Browns.

The conversation then shifts to another top-tier candidate, John Harbaugh.

Is the Browns' head coaching job far more attractive than national narratives suggest? They highlight the elite defense, an analytics-friendly front office and an owner willing to spend.

They also discuss Harbaugh's deep ties to the Cleveland area, his Super Bowl-winning pedigree, and his adaptability, making a compelling case for why he would be a great fit.

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What the Browns see in Tommy Rees + Jim Schwartz interviews for the head coaching job

Thu, 08 Jan 2026 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns' head coaching search is in full swing, and on this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dive into the early candidates.

They start by discussing the two in-house coordinators set to interview: Jim Schwartz and Tommy Rees. Could the 33-year-old Rees be the next Sean McVay, or is the risk too high?

Would hiring Schwartz be a popular move that keeps the successful defense intact?

The crew also looks at Bengals QB coach Dan Pitcher and his history with Andrew Berry.

Then, Lance Reisland joins the show to break down the film from the season finale against the Bengals, focusing on Shedeur Sanders' performance.

Lance also weighs in on the coaching search, offering his high praise for Ravens OC Todd Monken and sharing his thoughts on the Browns possibly hiring Schwartz or Rees.

To wrap up, Dan and Lance draft their biggest storylines from the 2025 NFL season, discussing everything from the rise of defenses and the analytics vs. feel debate to the importance of figuring it out at quarterback and the league's persistent injury problem.

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Should the Browns offer John Harbaugh anything he wants? Hey, Mary Kay!

Wed, 07 Jan 2026 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe dive into the biggest news of the day: the Baltimore Ravens have fired John Harbaugh.

What would it take for the Browns to land the Super Bowl-winning coach?

Mary Kay and Dan Labbe discuss Harbaugh's Cleveland roots, the potential bidding war with teams like the Giants and whether the Browns should give him anything he wants, including personnel control.

Then, they turn to the "Hey, Mary Kay!" segment to answer questions from Football Insider subscribers.

They discuss the future of former coach Kevin Stefanski, whether he'll find success elsewhere and how he'll handle the New York media if he lands with the Giants.

The conversation also pivots to the all-important quarterback position. What is the future for Deshaun Watson on this roster, and what did Shedeur Sanders really show in his seven starts?

They break down the QB situation and look at other early coaching candidates as the Browns' pivotal search gets underway.

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Why the Browns moved on from Kevin Stefanski + and why Andrew Berry stayed

Tue, 06 Jan 2026 00:59:00 -0000

The Browns fired head coach Kevin Stefanski, and the Orange and Brown Talk crew is here to break down all the fallout. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe react to the news from Berea, analyzing the decision to part ways with Stefanski while retaining GM Andrew Berry.

They dive into the press conferences by owner Jimmy Haslam and Berry, reading between the lines to understand the real reasons behind the move. Was it simply about the eight wins over two years, or did the front office lose faith in Stefanski's offensive vision?

They discuss how Berry's successful 2025 draft and recent trades likely saved his job, but now the pressure is on him more than ever.

Looking ahead, the search for a new head coach is on. Will the Browns target an offensive-minded coach to pair with a new quarterback, or promote from within with someone like Jim Schwartz?

Plus, what does this mean for the future of Shedeur Sanders?

They debates whether Stefanski was dealt a fair hand and what needs to happen next for the Browns to finally turn the corner.

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Orange and Brown Talk short: Myles Garrett sets the sack record and the Kevin Stefanski waiting game begins

Mon, 05 Jan 2026 00:36:00 -0000

The Browns beat the Bengals, 20-18, at Paycor Stadium, finishing the season at 5-12 and plunging into another offseason full of question marks.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their game recap video by talking about the big news from Sunday, Myles Garrett setting a new single-season sack record. He finished with 23 sacks.

They also talked about Shedeur Sanders’ performance and how it went for the rookie quarterback who struggled mightily but also led a game-winning field goal drive.

They wrap up by talking about the uncertainty surrounding Kevin Stefanski, who will likely find out Monday if he’ll return to coach the Browns for a seventh season.

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Orange and Brown Talk short: Interpreting Myles Garrett's comments on Browns future

Fri, 02 Jan 2026 23:01:00 -0000

Browns pass rusher Myles Garrett had his opportunity to weight in on the team’s future on Friday during his weekly media availability. Garrett declined to throw his backing behind head coach Kevin Stefanski with his future up in the air.

Garrett did, however, endorse playing for defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed what Garrett had to say on Friday and what it means about the decision the Browns face in the coming days.

They also talked about whether Schwartz could be a legitimate candidate for the job and why it might make sense if the Browns decide to move on from Stefanski.

Then they discussed the possibility of if Garrett might ask out again if it doesn’t look like the Browns will get to winning as early as next season.

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Will Kevin Stefanski return in 2026? Browns vs. Bengals Week 18 preview

Fri, 02 Jan 2026 05:01:00 -0000

For the final time this season, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get you ready for a Browns game as they preview the Week 18 matchup against the Cincinnati Bengals on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

The game itself takes a backseat to the much bigger question looming over the franchise: Will Kevin Stefanski return as head coach next season?

They try to read the tea leaves and discuss the vibe in Berea that suggests a change could be coming.

They explore the different scenarios, including the possibility of promoting defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz to head coach to maintain continuity on the team's best unit and keep rising offensive coordinator Tommy Rees. Is the grass actually greener, or should the Browns stick with what they have despite two losing seasons?

Plus, they talk about the one thing that matters on the field: Myles Garrett's chase for the sack record against a familiar foe in Joe Burrow.

Lance Reisland joined the show for his final scouting report of the season, breaking down the Bengals' offense and defense and how the Browns can attack them. Lance also makes his pick.

To wrap it up, Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan make their final game picks of the season.

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Kevin Stefanski’s future, Mike McDaniel rumors and a look at the 2026 QB class

Thu, 01 Jan 2026 05:01:00 -0000

On this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe delve into the rumors surrounding Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski's job security and explore the potential of the Browns pursuing Mike McDaniel as a coaching candidate.

Additionally, they discuss the implications of Wyatt Teller landing on injured reserve just ahead of free agency, raising questions about his future with the team.

In a special segment, Mary Kay is joined by The Athletic's draft expert, Dane Brugler, to analyze the upcoming quarterback class.

They highlight top prospects such as Fernando Mendoza and Dante Moore, discussing their potential impact on the Browns' draft strategy.

The conversation also touches on which players might declare for the draft and evaluates Shedeur Sanders' performance, considering how it could influence the Browns' decisions moving forward.

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Jim Schwartz wants another shot at being a head coach; Should the Browns give it to him?

Wed, 31 Dec 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk the future of the Browns' coaching staff.

Defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz has expressed interest in being a head coach again. What are the pros and cons of promoting Schwartz, considering his experience and the success of the defense, versus the league trend of hiring younger, offensive-minded coaches?

Could promoting Schwartz or offensive coordinator Tommy Rees provide stability, or do the Browns owe it to themselves to conduct a full, comprehensive coaching search if they move on from Kevin Stefanski?

They also explore the argument for keeping Stefanski as a CEO coach to maintain the continuity of his successful coordinators.

Then, Lance Reisland joins Dan to break down the film from the win over the Steelers.

- How the Steelers game-planned to stop Myles Garrett and whether it was more than usual.

- The decision-making of Aaron Rodgers and the plays he left on the field.

- The continued development and areas for improvement for QB Shedeur Sanders.

- Standout performances from defensive players like Carson Schwesinger, who played through injury, and the impressive physicality of Tyson Campbell.

Finally, we wrap up with a fun draft of overrated holiday traditions, debating everything from the New Year's Eve ball drop to Black Friday shopping.

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Have the Browns seen enough from Shedeur Sanders? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 30 Dec 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start by digging into the Browns’ the critical quarterback decision.

Have they seen enough from Shedeur Sanders to anoint him the starter for 2026?

Mary Kay and Dan debate the pros and cons of committing to Sanders' development versus using their two first-round draft picks to trade up for a top rookie prospect like Dante Moore. They analyze the risks involved, the team's draft position, and whether the front office can afford to be wrong.

The conversation extends to the coaching staff, exploring the uncertainty around Kevin Stefanski's future.

They also discuss if veteran defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz deserves another head coaching opportunity elsewhere and consider the intriguing possibility of the Browns promoting young offensive mind Tommy Rees if a change is made.

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Should the Browns care about draft position + Shedeur Sanders continuing case: Postgame podcast

Mon, 29 Dec 2025 04:15:00 -0000

The Browns secured a 13-6 victory over the rival Steelers on Sunday, but did the win come at a cost? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe break down the immediate aftermath.

The win dropped the Browns' draft position from a potential top-three pick to sixth overall, sparking a conversation about the team's future at quarterback.

They debate whether fans should be upset about the draft implications or celebrate a culture-building win against a division foe. This naturally leads to an in-depth evaluation of rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders.

Has he shown enough progress to be considered the long-term answer? They explore various paths forward.

They also discuss the ineffectiveness of tanking in the NFL and why players and coaches are always focused on winning the game in front of them.

On the defensive side of the ball, they focus on Myles Garrett's pursuit of the sack record. While Garrett didn't get a sack, they get into how Pittsburgh's entire game plan was dedicated to stopping him and how his mere presence was a game-wrecking force that ultimately contributed to the Browns' victory.

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Will Myles Garrett finally get the sack record? Will Shedeur Sanders make his case for the starting job? Browns vs. Steelers preview

Sat, 27 Dec 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On this preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get you ready for the Browns’ home finale against the Steelers.

They start with the future of the quarterback position. With just two games left, can Shedeur Sanders prove he's the guy for 2026 and convince the Browns not to use a top draft pick on a QB?

They also debate if these final games, particularly a win against a rival, could be enough to save Kevin Stefanski's job.

They talk Myles Garrett's pursuit of the single-season sack record. In a twist of fate, he could potentially break the record against Mason Rudolph, reigniting the drama from their infamous helmet-hitting incident in 2019, if the Steelers decide rest their starters. They would clinch the AFC North if the Ravens lose on Saturday night.

Lance Reisland joins the show for his scouting report, breaking down the Steelers' offense under Aaron Rodgers, the impact of DK Metcalf's suspension and the challenges posed by Pittsburgh's formidable defensive front.

Lastly, all four make their picks for Sunday’s matchup in Cleveland.

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Orange and Brown Talk short: Shedeur Sanders' progress, Joel Bitonio's vote of confidence and injury updates

Wed, 24 Dec 2025 20:32:00 -0000

We'll be back with a full Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast this weekend. Until then, here's a quick update from Berea from our daily video.

The Browns continued their preparations for the Steelers on Wednesday, but first it was a look back at Shedeur Sanders’ performance against the Bills on Sunday.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their daily recap video by discussing what offensive coordinator Tommy Rees had to say about the progress Sanders made on Sunday and if there’s something to build on from that performance.

Then they turn their attention to left guard Joel Bitonio’s vote of confidence for head coach Kevin Stefanski and what he had to say about the Browns retaining Stefanski for a seventh year.

They wrap up the video by updating some injuries, starting with the Browns and the return to practice for Denzel Ward and Dylan Sampson and T.J. Watt returning to Steelers practice.

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Can the Browns move forward with Deshaun Watson, Shedeur Sanders and a draft pick?

Wed, 24 Dec 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe kick things off with the news that Deshaun Watson will officially finish the season on the PUP list, ending any slim chance of a return this year.

They dive deep into what this means for the Browns' complex quarterback situation heading into the offseason. With Watson still on the roster with a massive contract, what is his role moving forward? Could he be a bridge quarterback for a top draft pick, or will he serve as a backup and mentor?

The conversation then shifts to Shedeur Sanders. Will he be the long-term answer after his seven-game audition? Mary Kay and Dan debate whether the Browns can keep Sanders on the roster if they decide to draft another quarterback, considering the media attention that follows him.

They also touch on a spicy potential storyline: Myles Garrett's quest for the sack record could culminate against none other than Mason Rudolph.

In the second half, Lance Reisland joins the show for his weekly film breakdown of the Browns' game against the Bills. Lance offers his expert opinion on Sanders' performance, where he showed patience but also made critical errors. He also evaluates the struggling offensive line, the defensive issues with gap integrity and tackling.

The episode wraps up with a fun trivia question about which colleges have produced the most NFL players.

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What should the Browns do at QB? Shedeur Sanders, the draft, and coaching uncertainty: Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 23 Dec 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talk the future of the quarterback position.

They discuss the central dilemma: should the Browns build around fifth-round pick Shedeur Sanders and use their high draft picks to acquire a top wide receiver or offensive tackle, or should they draft a new franchise quarterback like Fernando Mendoza or Dante Moore?

The discussion weighs the pros and cons of sticking with Sanders, highlighting his signs of progress and leadership potential against the risk of passing on a rare opportunity to draft a top-tier QB.

This decision is further complicated by the uncertainty surrounding the coaching staff. Dan and Mary Kay explore the job security of head coach Kevin Stefanski, questioning if he will return and how a potential coaching change would impact the team's choice at quarterback.

They contrast this with the relative safety of GM Andrew Berry's position and how his vision might shape the franchise's direction.

They also address subscriber questions about roster management failures, the team's disappointing losses and whether Myles Garrett's pursuit of the sack record has affected the run defense.

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Is Shedeur Sanders creating a difficult decision for the Browns? Postgame podcast

Mon, 22 Dec 2025 03:41:00 -0000

In this postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dig into the Browns' 23-20 loss to the Bills.

The primary focus: the continued development of rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders.

They were impressed with the traits he displayed, including his elusiveness, toughness and ability to keep the Browns in the game with a makeshift offensive line and limited offensive weapons and showed incremental improvements.

Was Sanders convincing enough for the Browns to build around him and use their high draft pick on other positions of need, or should they still target one of the top quarterbacks in the draft?

Lance Reisland joined the show to provide his analysis of Sanders' game, the struggling run defense, and other key moments.

The podcast also covers the unfortunate season-ending injury to promising rookie running back Quinshon Judkins and Myles Garrett’s quest to break the sack record.

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Browns-Bills preview: Shedeur Sanders’ rebound, run game woes & Myles Garrett’s record chase

Fri, 19 Dec 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On the Browns-Bills preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down the key storylines for the upcoming matchup.

They discuss whether quarterback Shedeur Sanders can rebound from his three-interception game last week against the Bills' second-ranked pass defense. They also talk about his need to improve his decision-making, build chemistry with his receivers beyond his security blanket, Harold Fannin Jr., and take the easy completions offered to him.

Another major topic: the Browns' struggling run game.

They also get into if this is the week Myles Garrett will break the single-season sack record.

Lance Reisland joins the show to provide his in-depth scouting report on the Bills. He explains why he believes Josh Allen is the best quarterback in the league, highlights the underrated talent of running back James Cook and breaks down their dangerous special teams.

Lastly, everyone makes their picks for Sunday's game.

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The Shedeur Sanders question: Can the Browns afford to be patient?

Thu, 18 Dec 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get into the future of the Browns quarterback position, centered around Shedeur Sanders.

They start by dissecting Sanders' weekly press conference, covering his mindset of laying a foundation, the advice he received from Jameis Winston and his ongoing efforts to build chemistry with his receivers.

The discussion then explores the central 'dichotomy' facing the team: Can they afford to be patient with a developing rookie when the Super Bowl window for veterans like Myles Garrett is closing?

With a potential top draft pick looming, the pressure is on.

They also delve into the significant uncertainty surrounding the coaching staff and front office. They debate whether Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry will return and how those decisions will ultimately shape the most important position on the team.

Who will be making the call on the Browns' quarterback in 2026, and what will that decision be?

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Myles Garrett’s record chase, Shedeur Sanders response & a huge Bills test for Browns defense

Wed, 17 Dec 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On Wednesday’s Orange Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look ahead to the Browns' Week 16 matchup against the Buffalo Bills.

They discusses the immense pressure on quarterback Shedeur Sanders to rebound from a tough game as he faces off against MVP candidate Josh Allen.

They also focus on Myles Garrett's quest to break the NFL's single-season sack record at home and analyze the challenges facing a Browns defense that is grappling with injuries and a tough offensive opponent.

In the second half, film expert Lance Reisland joins the show for a detailed breakdown of the game against the Bears. Reisland provides in-depth analysis of Sanders' development, the impressive instincts of rookie Carson Schwesinger and how the defense is coping with the loss of key players.

The episode wraps up with a draft of the most frustrating things to wait for, from airport lines to slow elevators.

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Is the 2025 NFL draft enough to save Andrew Berry’s job? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 16 Dec 2025 05:01:00 -0000

Following the Browns’ 31-3 loss to the Chicago Bears, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe tackle the biggest question facing the Cleveland Browns: What does the future hold for head coach Kevin Stefanski and GM Andrew Berry?

They kick off the Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by debating whether one or both could be fired and if Berry's successful 2025 draft class is enough to secure his position.

The conversation quickly turns to the franchise's most glaring need: a quarterback.

Dan and Mary Kay discuss the immense pressure on the front office to finally find their guy, questioning the trust in Andrew Berry's evaluation skills for the league's most important position.

Then they get into Shedeur Sanders' performance, analyzing his recent step back against the Bears. Where does Sanders need to improve? How will the Browns get a full enough evaluation on him?

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How can the Browns properly evaluate Shedeur Sanders? Orange and Brown Talk postgame podcast

Mon, 15 Dec 2025 05:06:00 -0000

In the postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down the Browns' 31-3 loss to the Chicago Bears.

They dive into the performance of rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders, who had a rough outing with three interceptions after a standout game the previous week. They analyze the extenuating circumstances, including a depleted offensive line, key injuries and a critical dropped pass by Jerry Jeudy that resulted in an interception, questioning how the front office can properly evaluate him.

The discussion then broadens to the team's overall execution, highlighting the chaotic nature of the game, repeated special teams blunders and procedural mistakes.

This leads to a critical conversation about head coach Kevin Stefanski's job security and whether he is giving the front office reasons to make a change.

The episode also examines the perplexing season of Jeudy, contrasting his struggles this year with his Pro Bowl performance last season.

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Browns at Bears: Will Shedeur Sanders seize the QB job? + Picks, preview and scouting report

Fri, 12 Dec 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On our Browns at Bears preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe offer a complete look-ahead to the Browns' frigid road game against the Chicago Bears.

The primary focus is on rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders.

After taking huge strides last week, can he repeat his performance against a Bears defense that leads the league in takeaways and interceptions? This game is a critical test of his development and his bid to be the Browns' franchise quarterback.

They also discuss how the Browns' defense will bounce back against the run after giving up big plays to the Titans, and whether Myles Garrett can get closer to the sack record against an elusive Caleb Williams.

Then, film analyst Lance Reisland joins to provide an in-depth report on Bears head coach Ben Johnson's creative offense and the Bears' opportunistic defense.

To wrap it up, Mary Kay, Ashley, Lance and Dan all make their predictions.

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Shedeur Sanders' learning curve and how mistakes are helping the Browns rookie grow

Thu, 11 Dec 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk all things Shedeur Sanders.

With Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski officially handing him the reins for the rest of the season, they analyze what stood out from the rookie quarterback's latest press conference. They discuss Shedeur's hungry, underdog mentality, noting that as a fifth-round pick, he understands nothing is guaranteed and he has to prove himself in the final four games.

The conversation explores how his draft day fall may have been the best thing for his career, giving him a chip on his shoulder and an edge that's fueling his rapid development.

They also break down his ability to learn from mistakes, like the costly interception against the Titans, and how he's balancing his "hero ball" instincts with smarter play.

They also touch on the dynamic between Sanders and his risk-averse head coach, and how the coach is learning how to best use the rookie's impressive elusiveness and accuracy.

Finally, they look ahead to the frigid matchup against the interception-heavy Chicago Bears, a true test of his progress and mental fortitude.

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Shedeur Sanders' audition for the Browns + where he improved against the Titans

Wed, 10 Dec 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe set up Bears week.

With the Browns eliminated from the playoffs, the focus shifts to the future, and that means all eyes are on quarterback Shedeur Sanders. They discuss his four-game audition for the starting job, breaking down his impressive performance against the Titans, the explosiveness he brings to the offense and the critical need for game management and avoiding costly mistakes.

They also get into how Sanders will fare against the Bears' turnover-happy defense and how the Browns' own run defense will handle Chicago's top-tier rushing attack after a poor showing against Tennessee.

Lance Reisland joins the show to break down the film from the loss to the Titans. Lance offers his perspective on Sanders' growth, toughness and improved processing.

He also provides a detailed schematic breakdown of exactly why the run defense struggled.

The show wraps up with a “Start-Bench-Cut” segment, debating everything from Hall-of-Fame quarterbacks to Christmas cookies.

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Can Shedeur Sanders prove he's the Browns’ future QB? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 09 Dec 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe get right to the biggest topic in Cleveland sports: Shedeur Sanders.

Following the Browns' 31-29 loss to the Titans, Sanders has been named the starting quarterback for the rest of the season, and the hosts break down what's at stake. With four tough games ahead, can the fifth-round pick prove he is the franchise's future and take the Browns out of the quarterback sweepstakes in the 2026 NFL Draft?

Mary Kay and Dan talk Sanders' impressive traits, from his "it factor" and elite accuracy to his surprising elusiveness and guts in the pocket.

They also discuss the massive financial implications of finding a star QB on a rookie deal and how it could allow the Browns to build around him.

Answering questions from Football Insider subscribers, they explore what the quarterback room could look like in 2026 with Sanders, Deshaun Watson and Dillon Gabriel, and debate whether it should be an open competition.

They also dissect the controversial two-point conversions against the Titans and the analytics behind Kevin Stefanski's aggressive decisions.

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Did Shedeur Sanders make his case to be the Browns quarterback long-term? Postgame podcast

Mon, 08 Dec 2025 04:24:00 -0000

On this live postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe dig into the ⁠Browns⁠' 31-29 loss to the Titans.

Despite the loss, the main topic of conversation is the breakout performance of rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders, who threw for 364 yards and accounted for four total touchdowns. They discuss how Sanders bolstered his case to be the Browns' starting quarterback for the future, leading two clutch touchdown drives late in the game to give his team a chance to win.

The podcast then pivots to the controversial coaching decisions that ultimately cost the Browns the game. They get into the two failed two-point conversion attempts, specifically the decision to take a red-hot Sanders off the field for the final, game-tying try. They debate the analytics behind the calls and whether it was a moment for "players over plays."

Finally, the discussion turns to the team's numerous mistakes, including costly special teams errors and a defensive letdown, and what this loss could mean for the future of head coach Kevin Stefanski.

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Browns vs. Titans: Shedeur Sanders vs. Cam Ward, picks, preview and scouting report

Fri, 05 Dec 2025 05:01:00 -0000

It’s the Browns vs. Titans preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dive into Sunday’s game between the Browns and Titans, spotlighting the quarterback duel between Shedeur Sanders and Cam Ward.

They also discuss Myles Garrett's pursuit of the single-season sack record. He’s 3.5 sacks away from tying the record. Could he tie it or break it on Sunday? Could this game be a repeat of the Raiders game for Garrett and the Browns’ defensive line?

Film analyst Lance Reisland joins the show to provide his scouting report, offering insights into key player matchups and strategies to watch for.

Then everyone makes their picks for Sunday’s matchup at Huntington Bank Field.

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Will Deshaun Watson ever start again for the Browns? And when?

Thu, 04 Dec 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kate Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe react to the news of Deshaun Watson's return to practice. With his 21-day practice window now open, they debate the biggest question on every fan's mind: Will he play again this season?

They dig into the team's motivations, suggesting the move is more about evaluating Watson's recovery from his Achilles injury and rewarding his hard work and mentorship of the rookie quarterbacks.

While they believe the plan is to finish the season with the rookies, they all agree you can "never say never" with the Browns.

They also look ahead to the future, analyzing Watson's massive contract and why he is almost certain to be on the roster in 2026. This leads to a discussion about whether he could realistically compete for the starting job next year.

Finally, the group discusses on-field chemistry issues, focusing on the sideline confrontation between Shedeur Sanders and Jerry Jeudy. They explore the importance of timing, trust, and why the final five games are critical for the development of the team's young players.

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What can Shedeur Sanders show this week? + Will Myles Garrett break the sack record on Sunday?

Wed, 03 Dec 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe set the stage for the upcoming Browns vs. Titans matchup.

They dive into the intriguing quarterback battle between the Browns' fifth-round pick, Shedeur Sanders, and the Titans' No. 1 overall pick, Cam Ward, and what this game means for both franchises.

The conversation shifts to the future, focusing on draft positioning and whether Sanders can prove he's the long-term answer at quarterback in the season's final games.

Ashley highlights the potential for Myles Garrett to break the NFL's single-season sack record against the oft-sacked Cam Ward.

They also discuss the opportunity for young players like Mike Hall Jr. and Teven Jenkins to get extended looks due to recent injuries.

In the second half of the pod, Lance Reisland joins Dan for a deep dive into the film from the 49ers game.

Lance provides a detailed analysis of Shedeur Sanders' performance, pointing out both high-level plays and correctable issues with his footwork and timing. They also dissect special teams breakdowns and the surprising decision to rotate Wyatt Teller on the offensive line.

To wrap things up, Dan and Lance have a four-round draft of the worst parts of winter.

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Should Browns handle Shedeur Sanders starting week-to-week? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 02 Dec 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe dive into the fallout from the Browns' 26-8 loss to the 49ers.

They begin by discussing the decision to handle quarterback Shedeur Sanders' starting role on a week-to-week basis. Is it a good strategy to keep Sanders hungry and prevent him from getting too comfortable?

The conversation then turns to the offense's chemistry issues, particularly the visible on-field frustration between Sanders and wide receiver Jerry Jeudy. Mary Kay and Dan explore why Jeudy is having a subpar season and what his long-term future looks like in Cleveland, considering his contract makes him difficult to move.

Mary Kay and Dan also break down the game's most critical blunders, including the confusing and ultimately failed 4th-and-1 direct snap to Harold Fannin Jr. and the continued abysmal play from the special teams unit.

Then they tackle the big-picture question of whether Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski are "joined at the hip" as the team faces another losing season.

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How long will Shedeur Sanders hang onto the Browns' starting QB job? Postgame podcast

Mon, 01 Dec 2025 03:27:00 -0000

In this live postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe break down the Browns' 26-8 loss to the San Francisco 49ers.

They start by analyzing the performance of rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders in his second start. They discuss the positive takeaways, including a well-thrown touchdown pass to Harold Fannin Jr. and avoiding costly interceptions, while also examining his development and what these final games mean for his future with the team.

Can he do enough to prove he's the long-term answer at quarterback?

They also touch on the sideline frustration between Sanders and Jerry Jeudy, the team's offensive chemistry issues and the overall sense of a season of missed opportunities.

Another major topic of discussion? The continued struggles of the special teams. They detail several critical errors, from a muffed punt to poor returns, that gave the 49ers excellent field position and directly impacted the game's outcome.

They explore how these recurring mistakes have cost the Browns multiple games this season, largely wasting a dominant defensive effort.

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Shedeur Sanders starts again + Browns vs. 49ers picks & scouting report: Preview podcast

Sat, 29 Nov 2025 05:01:00 -0000

The ⁠⁠⁠Browns⁠⁠⁠ return home on Sunday to host the San Francisco 49ers, a team fighting for the playoffs but also traveling cross-country on a short week to play in Cleveland.

Rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders will make his second consecutive start for the Browns.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe begin this week’s preview edition of the ⁠⁠⁠Orange and Brown Talk podcast⁠⁠⁠ by talking about what to expect from Sanders in his second start. Will he take positive steps forward or will 49ers defensive coordinator Robert Saleh have him off balance?

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give his scouting report of the 49ers. What do they do well? Where can the Browns win their matchups against them?Lance also makes his pick for Sunday’s game.

Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and, along with Dan, make their picks for Sunday in Cleveland.

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Will Shedeur Sanders take a big step forward in his next start? + Is not getting a game ball really a thing?

Wed, 26 Nov 2025 23:59:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look ahead to Shedeur Sanders' second start as the Browns prepare to face the 49ers.

They debate what a successful outing looks like for the rookie quarterback.

Is a performance similar to his debut against Las Vegas enough, or does he need to show clear signs of progress in efficiency and execution? They discuss how the Browns' offense can build on the explosive plays from the last game while also developing more sustained drives.

The conversation then shifts to address the off-field narratives surrounding Sanders. They break down the "Game Ball-Gate" controversy that erupted on social media after Kevin Stefanski didn't award Sanders a game ball for his first win.

They provide context on Stefanski's history with game balls, his methodical approach to developing rookies, and debunk the conspiracy theories that the coach is attempting to sabotage his young quarterback. Follow us:

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What to expect in Shedeur Sanders' second start, looking back at his debut + coach cliché draft

Wed, 26 Nov 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look ahead to the Browns' Week 12 matchup against the San Francisco 49ers.

They discuss what to expect from rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders in his second start as he faces a Robert Saleh-coached defense. They talk about how the Browns might expand the game plan for Sanders and how the defense will match up against Brock Purdy, especially with potential bad weather and the homefield advantage.

Then, Lance Reisland joins for his weekly film breakdown of the Browns' win over the Raiders. Lance gives his detailed analysis of Shedeur Sanders' performance, what he did well, and where he needs to improve.

He also dives into the dominant performance by the defensive line, highlighting why Myles Garrett is playing on “another planet" and the importance of the team's interior pressure.

Lastly, Lance and Dan do a four-round draft of the coaching clichés.

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Can Shedeur Sanders lock down the Browns starting quarterback job? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 25 Nov 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On this Hey, Mary Kay edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock break down the big news of the day: Shedeur Sanders will start for the Browns against the San Francisco 49ers.

Fresh off red-eye flights from Las Vegas, they dive into listener questions about the rookie QB. Has Sanders already secured the starting job for the rest of the season? They discuss his poise, ability to push the ball downfield, and how he's brought new energy to the offense.

The conversation also explores whether Sanders can convince the Browns not to draft a quarterback early in 2026 and the adjustments needed to build chemistry with Jerry Jeudy and Isaiah Bond.

Plus, they dig into the defense's dominant performance, crediting the interior line for Myles Garrett's success, and whether defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz will be a head coaching candidate next year.

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Should Shedeur Sanders remain the Browns' starting quarterback? Postgame podcast

Mon, 24 Nov 2025 07:09:00 -0000

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe check in from Las Vegas on the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast to break down the Browns' 24-10 win over the Raiders.

The main topic of discussion: Shedeur Sanders’ first career start. While his final stat line was modest, Sanders provided explosive plays the offense has lacked all season. Did Sanders’ performance, filled with tantalizing flashes, earn him another start over Dillon Gabriel, even after Gabriel clears the concussion protocol.

On the other side of the ball, they discuss another dominant performance from Myles Garrett, who added three sacks to his total, resetting his own franchise record for sacks in a season with 18.

The group talks about his historic pace and how the improved play of the interior defensive line has unleashed him.

They also touch on how the defense’s elite play should create a sense of urgency for the front office to solve the quarterback position and how the team’s rookies provide a bright spot for the future.

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Will Shedeur Sanders rise to the challenge? Browns at Raiders picks + scouting report

Fri, 21 Nov 2025 05:01:00 -0000

The ⁠⁠Browns⁠⁠ take to the road on Sunday to take on the Las Vegas Raiders, a 2-8 football team that is averaging fewer points per game than even the anemic Browns offense.

Most notably, rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders will make his first career start for the Browns.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe begin this week’s preview edition of the ⁠⁠Orange and Brown Talk podcast⁠⁠ by talking about what to expect from Sanders in his first start. Will the Browns figure out how to best utilize his strengths and minimize his weaknesses?

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give his scouting report of the Raiders. What do they do well? Where can the Browns win their matchups against them?

Lance also makes his pick for Sunday’s game.

Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and, along with Dan, make their picks for Sunday in Las Vegas.

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Why Shedeur Sanders can succeed on Sunday + former Browns QB Brian Hoyer on Sanders, Johnny Manziel and more

Thu, 20 Nov 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, and Dan Labbe get into the topic of the week: Shedeur Sanders has been named the starting quarterback for the Browns’ game against the Las Vegas Raiders.

They discuss Sanders’ supreme confidence heading into his first NFL start, how the coaching staff can balance his big-play style with smart game management and the challenge of facing the Raiders on the road.

Then, Mary Kay sits down with a very special guest: former Browns quarterback and Cleveland native, Brian Hoyer. Brian provides a unique quarterback’s perspective on Sanders’ potential and what he needs to improve on.

He draws compelling parallels between the current quarterback situation with Dillon Gabriel and his own experience playing alongside Johnny Manziel. Hoyer also weighs in on Manziel’s recent comments about the organization and shares his heartfelt well wishes for Browns legend Bernie Kosar.

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How can the Browns help Shedeur Sanders succeed on Sunday?

Wed, 19 Nov 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, it’s all about Raiders week and the expected first NFL start for Browns rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe set the table for the week and Mary Kay is 99.9% certain Sanders will start and explains what the Browns need to do to design a game plan that maximizes his skill set as a drop-back passer.

Ashley discusses the Browns’ terrible track record in West Coast games and why this matchup might not be the easy win some fans expect.

They also marvel at Myles Garrett’s dominant season and wonders what he has in store for the Raiders.

Then, Lance Reisland joins Dan for a deep dive into the Ravens film.

Lance breaks down every snap from Shedeur Sanders’ debut, highlighting the good, the bad and the footwork. He offers his game plan for Sanders and explains why the interior defensive line has been so crucial to Garrett’s success.

Finally, Lance and Dan have some fun with a Thanksgiving food draft, building a starting lineup of their favorite holiday dishes.

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Can Shedeur Sanders win the Browns starting quarterback job? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 18 Nov 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe dive into the start of the Shedeur Sanders era.

With Dillon Gabriel in the concussion protocol, Sanders is on track for his first career start against the Raiders, and the questions from Football Insider subscribers are flying in.

Mary Kay and Dan break down whether Sanders has what it takes to run away with the starting job. They analyze his debut performance against the Ravens, discussing his elite arm talent and catchable ball versus his struggles with reading defenses and taking sacks.

The conversation explores how offensive coordinator Tommy Rees might simplify the game plan for the rookie and the importance of avoiding the high-risk, high-reward plays.

They also tackle the "reps-gate" controversy, debating if the Browns' roster construction and lack of first-team reps set Sanders up for a difficult debut.

Finally, they look at the bigger picture: Can a strong performance earn Sanders the job long-term, and how can anyone accurately assess head coach Kevin Stefanski amidst the constant quarterback shuffling?

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Ready or not, Shedeur Sanders’ time is here for the Browns: Postgame podcast

Mon, 17 Nov 2025 06:40:00 -0000

Barring a quick run through the concussion protocol by Dillon Gabriel, it will be Shedeur Sanders starting next week for the Browns against the Las Vegas Raiders.

Sanders came in to start the second half of Sunday’s 23-16 loss after Gabriel was removed with a concussion.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe started the postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Sanders’ debut and what could be different next week if he does, in fact, make the first start of his NFL career.

They also talk about the performance of pass rusher Myles Garrett, who added four more sacks on Sunday and is on track to break the single-season record and win his second Defensive Player of the Year award.

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Browns vs. Ravens: Who will win on Sunday + Ravens scouting report

Fri, 14 Nov 2025 05:01:00 -0000

The ⁠Browns⁠ return home on Sunday to host their AFC North rivals, the Baltimore Ravens. It’s the second meeting between the two and it’s a matchup between two teams going in very different directions.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe begin this week’s preview edition of the ⁠Orange and Brown Talk podcast⁠ by looking ahead to Sunday’s matchup and talking through some of the storylines they’re watching.

Can Tommy Rees and Dillon Gabriel get the offense moving? Can Carson Schwesinger slow down Lamar Jackson? Could we see Shedeur Sanders this week?

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give his scouting report of the Ravens. What has changed about Baltimore since the last time the two teams played? How can the Browns attack them on both sides of the ball?

Lance also makes his pick for Sunday’s game.

Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and, along with Dan, make their picks for Sunday at Huntington Bank Field.

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The Browns’ offensive struggles: Dillon Gabriel, Tommy Rees and the pressure to fix it

Thu, 13 Nov 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On Wednesday’s edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dig into the Browns’ quarterback situation as they prepare to face the Baltimore Ravens.

The main topic is Dillon Gabriel’s struggle with accuracy and the mounting pressure for him and offensive coordinator Tommy Rees to turn things around. With backup Shedeur Sanders waiting in the wings, a sense of urgency is growing.

They discuss whether the offensive woes are all on Gabriel or if a struggling receiving corps and protection issues share the blame.

They analyze the statistics, from Gabriel’s low completion percentage to the receivers’ high number of drops, painting a picture of a comprehensive offensive problems. This leads to the central debate: Should the Browns stick with their plan and allow Gabriel more time to develop, or is it time to see what Sanders can do?

They weigh the pros and cons of throwing a rookie into a difficult situation versus staying patient in a season where playoff hopes have faded.

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Can the Browns bounce back vs. the Ravens? + Lance Reisland on what went wrong in Jets loss

Wed, 12 Nov 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe spin it forward to the Browns’ Week 11 matchup against the Baltimore Ravens.

After a devastating loss to the Jets, can the Browns rebound at home?

They discuss the state of the Ravens, who are on a winning streak with a healthy Lamar Jackson, and debate whether Cleveland’s stout home defense gives them a chance for a shocking upset.

They also analyze the offense under new play-caller Tommy Rees, try to find encouraging signs from Dillon Gabriel and Jerry Jeudy and how other players can get more involved.

Then, Lance Reisland joins the show for his weekly film breakdown of the loss to the Jets. Lance details exactly what went wrong on the two special teams touchdowns, the ongoing fundamental issues with the offensive line and the costly mental mistakes that doomed the Browns in a winnable game.

To wrap up, Lance and Dan draft all-time NFL greats using a blind resume format where they pick a team by number and then select a player from that franchise’s history. Who builds the better team?

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Is Kevin Stefanski safe after the Jets loss? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 11 Nov 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On this Monday, Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe are back from New York to break down the Browns' 27-20 loss to the Jets.

With other NFL coaches getting fired, they start by answering a Football Insider subscriber's question about Kevin Stefanski's job security. Mary Kay explains why she believes Stefanski is safe for now, but Dan wonders if the ugly loss to the Jets could change the thinking in Berea.

Then, they dive deep into the quarterback situation. Mary Kay makes her case for why the Browns should stick with Dillon Gabriel, giving him more time with new play-caller Tommy Rees.

They discuss the struggles of the offense, from sacks and penalties to a lack of continuity with injured players. How long is Gabriel's leash before the team turns to Shedeur Sanders?

Finally, they look at the bigger picture, discussing how the evaluation of the rookie quarterbacks this season ties into the Browns' expected plan to draft a franchise quarterback in 2026 and why the final eight games of this season are still crucial for the coaching staff and the organization.

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Should the Browns stick with Dillon Gabriel? Postgame podcast

Mon, 10 Nov 2025 03:54:00 -0000

On our postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down the Browns' frustrating 27-20 loss to the New York Jets.

They start with the quarterback position.

After Kevin Stefanski announced he's sticking with Dillon Gabriel, they discuss why that might be the right call, giving Gabriel and new play-caller Tommy Rees more time to gel.

They weigh the patience required for a rookie against the growing fan clamor to see Shedeur Sanders, acknowledging that the rest of the season is about evaluating these young quarterbacks.

Then, the conversation shifts to the special teams, which completely imploded. A kickoff return and a punt return for touchdowns in just 36 seconds led to 14 points for the Jets.

On defense, a critical offsides penalty by Cam Thomas cost the Browns dearly.

This leads to a bigger discussion: Is this loss the final straw? The hosts question the coaching, the mental errors and whether it's fair to start wavering on the long-term outlook for Kevin Stefanski and his staff.

It was a day of maddening mistakes that has them wondering where the Browns go from here in another disappointing season.

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Paul DePodesta leaves + Browns at Jets picks and preview

Fri, 07 Nov 2025 05:01:00 -0000

Browns Chief Strategy Officer Paul DePodesta is leaving the team to lead the Colorado Rockies.

We start our Browns at Jets preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing DePodesta’s departure and what it means for the Browns moving forward.

Then we turn our attention to Sunday’s game as the Browns try to snap a 12-game road losing streak this week when they head to New Jersey to take on the Jets at MetLife Stadium. The Browns are 2-6 and the Jets are 1-7.

Both teams are coming off their bye but took very different approaches to the trade deadline. New York traded away cornerback Sauce Gardner and defensive tackle Quinnen Williams while the Browns stood pat.

We get into all angles of this matchup.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by talking about DePodesta and also Tommy Rees calling plays.

Then Lance Reisland joins the show to go over his Jets scouting report and makes his pick.

Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and they make their picks for Sunday’s game.

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What would a Browns extension for David Njoku look like?

Thu, 06 Nov 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe tackle the futures of two key offensive weapons for the Browns.

First up is tight end David Njoku, who expressed his desire to remain a Brown for life after surviving the trade deadline. With his contract expiring, they discuss what a potential extension could look like, weighing his age, injury history and excellent blocking against the presence of rookie Harold Fannin Jr. and the strategy of letting the free-agent market determine his price.

Next, they turn to the perplexing struggles of wide receiver Jerry Jeudy. After a breakout 2024 season and great offseason, Jeudy’s performance has been a major disappointment, marked by drops and frustration.

They try to find the root causes: Is it on Jeudy, or is the team’s quarterback instability and overall offensive woes to blame? They explore whether a new play-caller in Tommy Rees and the return of Cedric Tillman can help get him back on track for the remainder of the season and beyond, as the Browns are counting on him to be a cornerstone of their passing attack.

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Why the Browns were quiet at the NFL trade deadline

Tue, 04 Nov 2025 23:44:00 -0000

On this post-trade deadline edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down a quiet NFL trade deadline for the Browns.

While the Browns made only a minor move involving Joe Tryon-Shoyinka, their upcoming opponent, the New York Jets, held a massive fire sale, trading away two of their defensive stars.

The crew analyzes why the Browns chose to stand pat, pointing to their strong draft position with two first-round picks and the lack of available players who could truly alter their season.

They explore the team's brief inquiry into Jets receiver Garrett Wilson and the decision not to trade veterans like David Njoku or Myles Garrett.

With no outside help arriving, the focus shifts to the rest of the season.

They discuss the immense pressure on the struggling offense to find answers from within, highlighting the need for players like Cedric Tillman and Jerry Jeudy to step up.

They frame the upcoming game against the dismantled Jets as a "need to win" and delve into the frustrations surrounding an offense that feels stuck in the same place as last year, making the final nine games a critical evaluation period for the future.

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Will Tommy Rees really make a difference for the Browns' offense? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 04 Nov 2025 05:01:00 -0000

On this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe dive into the biggest Browns news from the day: Kevin Stefanski handing over play-calling duties to Tommy Rees.

They break down what Rees can do differently to ignite the struggling Browns offense, from sticking with the run game to finding ways to make quarterback Dillon Gabriel more comfortable and confident.

With wide receiver Cedric Tillman returning from injury, how will his presence impact the receiving corps and take pressure off a pressing Jerry Jeudy?

The quarterback discussion doesn’t stop there. Mary Kay offers her insight on the “real story” behind Shedeur Sanders’ back injury and whether the team is truly ready to hand him the reins. They also tackle the elephant in the room: the possibility of Deshaun Watson returning this season and what that could mean for his trade value.

Finally, as the NFL trade deadline approaches, Mary Kay and Dan speculate on potential moves the Browns could make to bolster their roster, focusing on the offensive line and wide receiver positions.

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Why Myles Garrett isn’t going anywhere + the Browns’ path forward:

Thu, 30 Oct 2025 04:01:00 -0000

On Thursday’s edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start with the rumor that has taken over the sports talk machine: Could the Browns trade Myles Garrett?

Mary Kay definitively shuts down the speculation, explaining why there is a "zero percent chance" of it happening before the trade deadline. They break down the massive financial dead cap hit that makes any potential deal a non-starter and discuss why the idea was ludicrous from the beginning.

From there, the conversation pivots to the bigger picture for the 2 -6 Browns. Is a full-scale rebuild the answer? The hosts discuss why a "tank" is not a viable option in the NFL and how the team is currently straddling two timelines, trying to win with a veteran core while simultaneously building a new foundation with a promising rookie class featuring players like Quinshon Judkins, Mason Graham and Carson Schwesinger.

Ultimately, the path forward hinges on one position: quarterback. They explore the immense challenge of identifying and developing a franchise QB, the importance of having a plan and sticking to it and how the current offensive woes, from the quarterback play to the receiving corps, impact the team's ability to evaluate their young talent.

It's a deep dive into the state of the Browns and what comes next.

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Should Browns GM Andrew Berry talk this week? How would we fix the offense?

Wed, 29 Oct 2025 04:01:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe kick things off by tackling the week's biggest off-field story: Browns GM Andrew Berry breaking precedent by not holding his traditional bye week press conference. With the team at a frustrating 2-6, the decision has sparked debate and speculation among the fan base.

The crew dives into the team's reasoning, the public pushback, and whether it was a miscalculation to remain silent when fans are demanding answers about the team's direction, recent trades, and underwhelming performance.

The focus then shifts to fixing the struggling offense. They brainstorm potential solutions coming out of the bye.

Everything is on the table, from making a change at quarterback and trading for a veteran wide receiver before the deadline, to handing over play-calling duties from Kevin Stefanski to Tommy Rees. They debate the likelihood and potential impact of each move as the Browns look to salvage their season against one of the league's easiest remaining schedules.

Lance Riesland joins the show for a deep dive into the film from the loss to the Patriots. He offers his expert analysis on what's plaguing the offense, from a lack of rhythm to specific issues with quarterback play and beyond.

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Should Kevin Stefanski give up play calling? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 27 Oct 2025 22:49:00 -0000

On Monday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe dive into a packed mailbag following the Browns' 32-13 loss to the Patriots.

First, they tackle the boiling frustration of Myles Garrett. After his visible outburst on the sideline, is there a chance he could request a trade in the offseason or will he demand significant changes on offense to stay? Does he have a right to express his frustration after giving up his trade request? Dan and Mary Kay debate whether his passion is a positive or negative sign for the franchise.

Speaking of the offense, with the bye week here, should this be "Hell Week" for the offensive staff? They discuss whether Kevin Stefanski should hand over play-calling duties to Tommy Rees to try and jumpstart the struggling unit.

The quarterback debate rages on. While Stefanski has ruled out benching rookie Dillon Gabriel, should everything, including a look at Shedeur Sanders, be on the table to fix the offense? They also look back at the team's handling of veteran QBs earlier in the year.

Finally, they discuss the future of the coaching staff and the roster, including how many wins Stefanski needs to save his job and Mary Kay's "second Super Bowl window" theory.

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Is it time to talk QB change for the Browns? Postgame podcast

Mon, 27 Oct 2025 02:39:00 -0000

The Browns were embarrassed in New England on Sunday, losing to the Patriots, 32-13. The offense struggled once again.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our Orange and Brown Talk postgame podcast by looking at the offense and the quarterback situation and what the Browns should do. Is sticking with Dillon Gabriel the right call? Should they consider a switch to Shedeur Sanders?

They also talk about who deserves the blame for this performance.

Then Lance Reisland joins the pod to talk about what he saw from Dillon Gabriel and the Browns offense on Sunday

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Browns at Patriots: Picks, preview and scouting report

Fri, 24 Oct 2025 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns play one last game before their bye week, traveling to New Engalnd to take on the Patriots. New England, led by Mike Vrabel, is one of the season’s surprise teams at 5-2.

The Browns, meanwhile, are coming off their second win of the season.

On our Friday Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast, we get into all angles of this matchup.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by talking about the big storylines for Sunday.

Then Lance Reisland joins the show to go over his Patriots scouting report and makes his pick.

Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and they make their picks for Sunday’s game.

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Is Shedeur Sanders’ time nearing with the Browns?

Wed, 22 Oct 2025 22:41:00 -0000

On the latest Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe address one of the pressing questions facing the Browns and their struggling offense: Should Shedeur Sanders be getting a look?

While starter Dillon Gabriel gets all the first-team reps, the passing game continues to struggle, and his performance hasn’t quieted the calls for the other rookie.

With a matchup against the New England Patriots and their elite run defense looming, the offense can’t just rely on Quinshon Judkins; they need veterans Jerry Jeudy and David Njoku to have feel-good games and prove their Pro Bowl status.

On the other side of the ball, the Browns have a championship caliber defense that just had a dominant, get-right game. Can Jim Schwartz’s aggressive scheme rattle Patriots QB Drake Maye and carry the team to another victory?

We break it all down on Wednesday’s episode.

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Can the Browns build on the momentum of their win over Miami?

Tue, 21 Oct 2025 23:15:00 -0000

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recap the Browns’ win over the Dolphins and turn their attention to the upcoming matchup against the New England Patriots.

A major focus is the “Vrabel factor,” as former Browns consultant Mike Vrabel, now the head coach of the Patriots, possesses extensive inside knowledge of Cleveland’s personnel, schemes and coaching tendencies.

The crew discusses how the Browns’ offense, which is struggling in the passing game, will handle a Patriots defense designed to take away their strengths.

Can Jim Schwartz’s defense, which showed new, aggressive wrinkles against Miami, confuse Patriots’ breakout quarterback Drake Maye?

Later, Lance Riesland joins the show to break down the Dolphins film, digging into the Browns’ simulated blitzes and creative fronts that shut down the Dolphins.

To wrap up, Lance and Dan hold a draft of the most overrated holiday traditions.

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How Far Can the Browns Go With This Offense? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 20 Oct 2025 23:29:00 -0000

In this Hey, Mary Kay! episode of Orange and Brown Talk, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe look back at the Browns’ dominant 31–6 win over the Dolphins — a game that showcased one of the league’s most ferocious defenses but also raised fresh questions about the offense’s long-term outlook.

Mary Kay and Dan answer questions from Football Insider subscribers, starting by unpacking the Browns’ defensive masterpiece, one that left Tua Tagovailoa looking lost in the rain and wind. They highlight standout performances from Grant Delpit, Rayshawn Jenkins and Tyson Campbell while revisiting Kevin Stefanski’s now-viral “shirtless Schwartz” game ball moment that energized the locker room.

Then they shift focus to the other side of the ball, talking all about Dillon Gabriel and if he can hold onto the job.

Mary Kay warns it’s not sustainable if defenses keep stacking the box against Quinshon Judkins, who faced eight or more defenders on more than half his carries against Miami.

They also debate whether the Browns should look to acquire a veteran wide receiver before the trade deadline and the tyep of receiver they should target if they do. They also explore potential moves involving veterans like David Njoku and Shelby Harris, assess what’s next for the quarterback situation — including when Shedeur Sanders might get his shot — and preview the upcoming test against Mike Vrabel’s Patriots.

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What does a win over the Dolphins mean for the Browns? Postgame podcast

Mon, 20 Oct 2025 02:43:00 -0000

The Browns beat the Dolphins, 31-6, on Sunday, a dominant performance by a team in need of a victory. They are now 2-5 on the season.

On our Orange and Brown Talk postgame podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start things off by discussing why the Browns were able to dominate Miami and what it means for them moving forward, if anything.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to go over what he saw in the Browns’ dominating victory to grab their second win of the season and put to rest some of teh questions that followed them around after losing to Pittsburgh a week ago.

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Browns vs. Dolphins: Picks, preview and scouting report

Fri, 17 Oct 2025 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns return home this week and host Miami in a battle of 1-5 teams. Miami is coming off a loss to the Chargers while the Browns are trying to find their offense after a loss to the Steelers last week.

On our Friday Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast, we get into all angles of this matchup.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by talking about the Browns the big storylines for Sunday. They discuss Dillon Gabriel trying to bounce back, the weather's potential impact and the Browns' run game.

Then Lance Reisland joins the show to go over his Dolphins scouting report and makes his pick. How can the Browns attack the Dolphins defense? How will the defense disrupt Miami's rhythm and timing offense?

Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and they make their picks for Sunday's game.

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Can the Browns get right against the Dolphins?

Thu, 16 Oct 2025 00:53:00 -0000

The Browns host the Dolphins on Sunday in a matchup of 1-5 teams, both trying to salvage anything out of this season and put something more in the win column.

How important is this game for the Browns? It starts with getting their offense going against one of the worst defenses in the league. Will Dillon Gabriel and the passing game find a spark?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about what this game means on Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Will the Browns actually figure something out against the Dolphins or will we be talking about a total collapse if they lose this game?

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Can the Browns find their offense this week + breaking down the Steelers film

Tue, 14 Oct 2025 22:47:00 -0000

The Browns return home this week to face a Dolphins team that might be in a worse place than they are. Both teams are 1-5 and desperate for a win, but the Browns might be the team most equipped to get one in this matchup.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Tuesday’s edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by setting up the week with what they’re watching.

Can the offense get fixed? Which team has the better vibes even though both are coming in at 1-5? Did the Browns mess up the start to their season by not handling quarterback correctly?

Then Lance Reisland joins for his weekly film breakdown of what he saw in the previous week’s game before Lance and Dan do a villain draft.

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Who's to blame for the Browns struggling offense? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 13 Oct 2025 22:46:00 -0000

The Browns offense struggled once again on Sunday in a 23-9 loss to the Steelers and how to fix it is the biggest topic currently surrounding the team.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discussed the offense on Monday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

First, however, they got into comments from Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin who was critical of Browns GM Andrew Berry trading quarterback Joe Flacco within the division to the Cincinnati Bengals.

Then they turn their attention to the offense and discuss what's going wrong on that side of the ball.

They also talk about whether Kevin Stefanski is on the hot seat and what happens if they lose to the 1-5 Dolphins on Sunday.

They even offer some advice to a fan whose wife is getting tired of him watching the Browns lose every Sunday.

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Can the Browns fix their offense and save their season? Postgame podcast

Mon, 13 Oct 2025 01:31:00 -0000

The Browns lost to the Steelers, 23-9, on Sunday and frustration is beginning to build for a football team that is struggling to score and is now 1-5 on the season.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our Orange and Brown Talk postgame podcast by talking about the frustration Myles Garrett voiced about another loss and if Browns fans should be concerned.

They also talk about the struggling offense and if a change in play-caller would make a difference.

Then Lance Reisland joins the show to talk about what he saw from the offense in the loss to the Steelers and why the Browns are struggling so much on special teams.

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Browns at Steelers: Picks, preview and scouting report

Fri, 10 Oct 2025 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns return from London this week and travel to Pittsburgh to face the first-place Steelers. Pittsburgh is 3-1 and fresh off their bye. The Browns are 1-4 following a 21-17 heartbreaker against the Vikings last week.

On our Friday Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast, we get into all angles of this matchup.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by talking about the Browns trading Greg Newsome II and setting up the game with the big storylines for Sunday.

Then Brian Batko from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette joins the show to give us the latest on the Steelers. He talks about Aaron Rodgers and the Steelers offense, if the defense is sustainable and his thoughts on their fast start.

Lance Reisland joins the show to go over his Steelers scouting report and makes his pick.

Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and they make their picks for Sunday's game.

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Should the Browns make Shedeur Sanders their No. 2 quarterback?

Thu, 09 Oct 2025 00:35:00 -0000

Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski declined to name Shedeur Sanders the No. 2 quarterback for Sunday's game in Pittsburgh, leaving the door open for Bailey Zappe to potentially have the role against the Steelers.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about the No. 2 quarterback job on Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast and if the Browns should pick Sanders or Zappe.

They talk about why the time might not be right for Sanders and why Zappe might be the best option if the Browns need someone to step in mid-game.

They also talk about the plan with Sanders and why it might be too soon to stray from it.

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The Browns traded Joe Flacco; what does the quarterback room look like now?

Tue, 07 Oct 2025 21:07:00 -0000

The Browns shocked the NFL world on Tuesday when they traded Joe Flacco and a sixth-round pick to the Bengals in exchange for a fifth-round pick. Flacco was recently displaced as the Browns' starter by rookie Dillon Gabriel.

What does this trade mean for the Browns as a whole and, specifically, for their quarterback room?

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talked through it all in a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the podcast.

They talk about whether Flacco can revive his career with the Bengals before they turn their attention to the Browns. Are they waving the white flag on the 2025 season?

They also talk about how it impacts Shedeur Sanders, who could be in line to move up to No. 2 on the depth chart.

Lastly, they talk about the future of Kevin Stefanski and what's next after a bad loss on Sunday in London.

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Where do the Browns go from here after devastating loss to Vikings? Postgame podcast

Mon, 06 Oct 2025 00:13:00 -0000

The Browns lost to the Vikings in London on Sunday, 21-17, a loss they snatched from the jaws of victory.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dig into the loss to start off our Orange and Brown Talk postgame podcast. They talk about the defense faltering late with the game on the line then turn their attention to the offense.

What did they think of Dillon Gabriel? How do they get their wide receivers going?

Then they talk about Kevin Stefanski and if it's time to have some real conversations about his job security.

Lance Reisland joins the podcast in the second half to give his instant reaction to the loss, talk about the ending of the game and his thoughts on Gabriel, Stefanski and more.

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Browns vs. Vikings: Picks, preview and scouting report

Fri, 03 Oct 2025 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns are in London for their Week 5 game against the Vikings. Minnesota is 2-2 and lost to the Steelers in Dublin in Week 3. The Browns are 1-3 following a 34-10 loss to the Lions in Detroit last week.

On our Friday Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast, we get into all angles of this matchup.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by setting up the game with the big storylines for Sunday.

Then Lance Reisland joins the show to go over his Vikings scouting report and makes his pick.

Dan comes back and digs up a couple of prop bets he likes for the game.

Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and they make their picks for Sunday's game.

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Dillon Gabriel is the Browns starting quarterback + Shedeur Sanders makes more headlines

Thu, 02 Oct 2025 00:05:00 -0000

The Browns named Dillon Gabriel their starting quarterback for Sunday’s game in London against the Vikings. Joe Flacco will be the backup quarterback.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their Wednesday Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the decision and what they expect from Gabriel when he makes his first career start. How long is his leash as the starter? Is he ready for this moment?

Then they address Shedeur Sanders miming his responses to questions when he was asked about the quarterback change and remaining as the third string quarterback. Is what Sanders did wrong? Should he have just declined to talk? Did it tell us anything about Sanders?

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Why a switch to Dillon Gabriel could spark the Browns offense + breaking down the Lions film

Tue, 30 Sep 2025 22:38:00 -0000

The Browns are heading to London on Wednesday and they could have a new starting quarterback before they leave.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our Tuesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by setting up the week ahead and talking about the potential switch from Joe Flacco to Dillon Gabriel and why they feel like the time is right to make the move.

They also talk about the opportunity ahead of the Browns to win a game against a team that is banged up in the wrong spots to be banged up against this defense.

Then Lance Reisland joins the show to talk about what he saw on the Lions film and throw a bunch of "Would you rather..." questions at Dan.

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Is a potential Browns QB switch to Dillon Gabriel the right decision? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 30 Sep 2025 01:15:00 -0000

The Browns could be on the verge of making a quarterback change following their 34-10 loss to the Lions. Head coach Kevin Stefanski wouldn't commit to Joe Flacco as his starter on Monday.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the potential quarterback change and why it might make sense for the Browns to turn things over to Gabriel.

They also talk about the acquisition of tackle Cam Robinson.

Then they discuss the emergence of Isaiah Bond and what the Browns should do to fix their special teams.

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Should the Browns consider benching Joe Flacco? Postgame podcast

Mon, 29 Sep 2025 06:45:00 -0000

The Browns are once again searching for answers offensively after a 34-10 loss in Detroit on Sunday. While many of the issues run deeper than quarterback, Joe Flacco is getting some heat for the offensive struggles.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dive into the question of whether it's time to hand things over to Dillon Gabriel or stick with Flacco.

They talk about the issues Flacco is having as well as the issues overall on the offense and if Gabriel would actually improve anything.

Then, Lance Reisland joins the show to discuss the quarterback situation and his thoughts on where the Browns are after four weeks.

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Browns at Lions: Picks, preview and scouting report

Fri, 26 Sep 2025 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns return to the road for their Week 4 game against the Lions. Detroit is 2-1 and the Browns are coming off a dramatic upset win over the Packers and are 1-2.

On our Friday Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast, we get into all angles of this matchup.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by setting up the game with the big storylines for Sunday.

Then Lance Reisland joins the show to go over his Lions scouting report and makes his pick.

Dan comes back and digs up a couple of prop bets he likes for the game.

Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and they make their picks for Sunday's game.

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Should the Browns unleash Joe Flacco?

Wed, 24 Sep 2025 22:06:00 -0000

The Browns are trying to find a solution to their struggling offense and it likely starts with the connection between their quarterback, Joe Flacco, and his No. 1 receiver Jerry Jeudy. Getting them going would go a long ways to jumpstarting an offense that has not been good over the season's first three weeks.

What if part of the problem, too, is being too conservative? Is it time to let Flacco cook?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about the offense, Flacco and Jeudy on Wednesday's edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Are they too scared about Flacco turning the ball over? Or is this the right formula?

Then they look at some of the injuries the Browns are monitoring going into Sunday, including Denzel Ward, who didn't practice on Wednesday and would be a big loss if he's unable to play on Sunday for some reason.

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Browns and Lions pose intriguing matchup + Packers film breakdown

Tue, 23 Sep 2025 23:27:00 -0000

The Browns and their elite defense go to Detroit this year to try and slow down an elite Lions offense that has been in a rhythm the last two weeks. It’s the type of matchup that makes the NFL must-watch TV.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by looking at storylines and things they’re thinking as Week 4 gets going.

How will the Browns deal with the Lions offense? Can Kevin Stefanski outcoach Dan Campbell? Is Dillon Gabriel’s debut looming?

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to break down what he saw on film in the Browns’ win over the Packers.

Then Dan and Lance do a draft of things that remind them of the ‘90s.

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What will the Browns do at tackle? What's next for Shedeur Sanders? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 22 Sep 2025 22:42:00 -0000

The Browns won in dramatic fashion on Sunday over the Packers but were met with bad news on Monday when head coach Kevin Stefanski announced tackle Dawand Jones' season was over.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by reliving Sunday's win and then digging into what losing Jones means for the Browns tackle position and the offensive line long term.

Then they talk about Quinshon Judkins and the running game and if it can help open up the passing game as well as Joe Flacco's struggles and how long his leash is, even after Sunday's win.

Lastly, they talk Shedeur Sanders and his dad confirming the report he told the Ravens not to draft him, Mary Kay's conversation with Sanders and how Sanders' thoughts on how close he is to being ready coincide with the Browns' plans at quarterback, including potentially in next year's draft.

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How did the Browns pull that upset over the Packers? Postgame podcast

Mon, 22 Sep 2025 02:08:00 -0000

The Browns used a frantic final four minutes to pull an upset over the Green Bay Packers on Sunday at Huntington Bank Field. They beat the previously undefeated Packers, 13-10.

Our postgame edition of the Orange and Brown talk podcast begins with Mary Kay Cabot joining Dan Labbe to share her thoughts on the win and why the Browns were able to pull it off.

Then Lance Reisland and Ashley Bastock joined as part of our live postgame podcast, which we record every Sunday at 8 p.m.

They talk about why the Browns were able to win this game, the performance of the defense, if this formula is sustainable and what it means for this team moving forward.

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Browns vs. Packers: Picks, preview and scouting report

Fri, 19 Sep 2025 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns return home for their Week 3 game against the Packers. Green Bay is 2-0 while the Browns are winless.

On our Friday Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast, we get into all angles of this matchup.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by setting up the game with the big storylines for Sunday.

Then Lance Reisland joins the show to go over his Packers scouting report and makes his pick.

Dan comes back and digs up a couple of prop bets he likes for the game.

Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and they make their picks for Sunday's game.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Can the Browns figure out a way to neutralize Green Bay? + Dawand Jones rotates + Is Mike Hall getting close?

Wed, 17 Sep 2025 22:35:00 -0000

Green Bay is bringing a monster of a defense to Cleveland on Sunday, a group that spent the first two weeks of the season harassing quarterbacks and shutting down offenses.

Will the Browns and veteran quarterback Joe Flacco be able to figure this defense out or will they once again struggle like they did against the Ravens in Week 2?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the Wednesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing how the Browns can try to figure this defense out.

Then they talk about the decision to rotate Dawand Jones at left tackle to try to alleviate concerns about the heat.

Lastly, they talk about the potential return of Mike Hall Jr.? Could he be back this week? What does he bring to the defensive line?

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Browns face toughest challenge yet, Baker Mayfield’s rise, Ravens film review + all-time team draft

Tue, 16 Sep 2025 23:13:00 -0000

The Browns are hosting the Packers on Sunday and it presents another stiff test for this team and especially this offense. Green Bay is 2-0 and the Browns are 0-2 and desperately need a win.

Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast starts with Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe setting up Packers week. They talk about the Browns’ scuffling offense against an elite Packers defense and how the Browns defense will handle the Packers’ weapons.

They also talk a little about Baker Mayfield’s rise in Tampa Bay.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to look back at the film from the Browns’ loss to Baltimore.

Lastly, Dan and Lance draft their all-time teams.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Is sticking with Joe Flacco the right decision by the Browns? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 15 Sep 2025 23:33:00 -0000

The Browns are 0-2 and coming off a brutal offensive performance on Sunday in a 41-17 loss to Baltimore. Quarterback Joe Flacco didn't perform well and it has some folks wondering if a change might be in order.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the decision to stick with Flacco and if they think it's the right move by Kevin Stefanski.

Then they talk about some of the other things that went wrong on Sunday, including poor special teams play that put their defense in a bad position.

They also talk about the outlook for the team now that they're 0-2 and how the Browns can try to keep things from going off the rails.

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Should the Browns stick with Joe Flacco? Browns postgame podcast

Mon, 15 Sep 2025 02:39:00 -0000

The Browns were blown out in Baltimore and now there are questions about what they should do at quarterback. Head coach Kevin Stefanski supported starting quarterback Joe Flacco after a difficult day in his return to Baltimore.

Is Stefanski doing the right thing?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about the quarterback decision and if sticking with Flacco is the right move.

They also talk about the report regarding Shedeur Sanders telling the Ravens to not draft him.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to talk about what he saw. What should the Browns do at quarterback? What went wrong on offense and special teams? Is there reason for hope? Follow us:

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Browns at Ravens: Picks, preview and scouting report

Thu, 11 Sep 2025 23:32:00 -0000

The Browns head to Baltimore for their Week 2 game against the Ravens. Both teams are 0-1 and both teams are desperate for a win.

We get into all angles of this matchup in the Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by setting up the game with the big storylines for Sunday.

Then Lance Reisland joins the show to go over his Ravens scouting report and makes his pick.

Dan comes back and digs up a couple of prop bets he likes for the game.

Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin the pod and they make their picks for Sunday's game.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Are the Browns making the right choice at kicker? + Joe Flacco's return to Baltimore and running back Dylan Sampson

Wed, 10 Sep 2025 23:13:00 -0000

Joe Flacco's return to Baltimore is the big storyline this week as the Browns take on the Ravens Sunday at M&T Bank Stadium.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the Wednesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Flacco's return and how he'll handle the emotions of being back in Baltimore. Could the Browns rally behind him to get him a win?

Then they talk about the team's decision to stick with kicker Andre Szmyt and whether they think the Browns are doing the right thing. Could it cost them if they keep things close in Baltimore?

Then Dan caught up with running back Dylan Sampson in the locker room on Wednesday. Listen to his interview for a story that will go up on Thursday.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Browns head into Ravens week, breaking down the Bengals film + digging into NFL Draft QBs

Tue, 09 Sep 2025 22:11:00 -0000

We're getting you ready for Ravens week on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk while also looking back on Sunday and way ahead to the NFL Draft.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start this edition of the podcast by sharing their thoughts ahead of the Browns' matchup in Baltimore. They talk about Joe Flacco's return to his old stomping grounds and if they believe the Browns can pull an upset.

Then Lance Reisland joins the show to go over what he saw watching the film from the Browns' loss to Cincinnati on Sunday.

Lastly, Tim Bielik joins Lance and Dan to talk about a few of the quarterbacks who could be in this upcoming NFL Draft and their thoughts after Week 2 of the college football season.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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How are the Browns balancing trying to win and playing young players? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 09 Sep 2025 01:18:00 -0000

The Browns appear to be straddling the line between rebuilding and trying to win and it showed on Sunday, when they played well enough to win but made enough inexperienced mistakes to lose.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about the Browns’ kicking situation and what they’ll do after Andre Szmyt missed an extra point and a go-ahead field goal.

They also talk about what they can take away from Sunday’s loss to the Bengals and how much of it they credit to how Browns vs. Bengals games always seem to go.

They answer questions about the performance of the secondary and where the Browns and discuss a need for more playmaking from the safety position.

They also talk about the return of running back Quinshon Judkins and what to expect from him once he is on the field.

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Is it panic time for the Browns or are there things to build on? Postgame podcast

Mon, 08 Sep 2025 02:20:00 -0000

The Browns lost to the Bengals, 17-16, on Sunday, turning the ball over twice and missing two kicks, including a potential game-winning field goal.

So, is it panic time for the Browns or are there positives they can build on even though they are off to an 0-1 start.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe talked about the loss on a live postgame podcast on Sunday night.

They discussed the kicking situation and some of the positives and negatives to take away from this first game.

Are the Browns destined to lose a few more in a row now? Will they turn a dominant performance by the defense in the second half into some wins?They cover everything on their postgame podcast.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Browns vs. Bengals preview and picks + Joe Thomas on his expectations and more

Fri, 05 Sep 2025 08:00:00 -0000

The Browns open their season on Sunday against the Bengals at Huntington Bank Field in Cleveland. It's a game where both teams are eager to get off to a strong start.

In our first Orange and Brown Talk podcast preview of the season, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look at the big storylines going into the game, including the health of Myles Garrett, and they discuss their outlook for the season.

Then Hall of Fame left tackle Joe Thomas joins the podcast to talk about his expectations for the Browns, Dawand Jones at left tackle and the Browns' culture.

Lance Reisland gives his scouting report on the Bengals and makes his pick.

Then Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan make their picks for the game before Football Insider subscribers offer up their season predictions.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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What is a realistic expectation for Joe Flacco in his Browns return?

Wed, 03 Sep 2025 23:55:00 -0000

Joe Flacco is back with the Browns and many fans are hoping he can recapture the magic that made him a cult hero here in 2023.

Can Flacco, at age 40, bring back memories of that 5-game run to end the season and push the Browns to the playoffs or are people asking too much of him two seasons later?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the Wednesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Flacco and whether he'll take this team to unexpected heights or be on the bench sooner rather than later.

They also talk about the matchup between the Browns secondary and Bengals receivers highlight Sunday's Week 1 game.

Then they talk about Isaiah Bond and if the Browns can unlock his speed in a way they have been unable to with other fast receivers.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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What area of the Browns are people overlooking in 2025? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 02 Sep 2025 19:52:00 -0000

Week 1 is officially here and that means a new Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer questions from Football Insider subscribers on Tuesday's edition of the podcast.

They start by talking about an area of the Browns that is being overlooked as national pundits talk about the team and what they could do this season.

They also talk about reasonable expectations for the first four games of the season.Then they answer questions about Joe Flacco, Quinshon Judkins and the running game and how far away the Browns are to getting back into contention.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Most likely Browns rookie to succeed, who will leave us speechless and more Browns superlatives for 2025

Fri, 29 Aug 2025 15:07:00 -0000

The Orange and Brown Talk podcast is positive vibes on Friday's episode. Well, mostly positive vibes.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start this episode by discussing the Cowboys trade of Micah Parsons to the Packers and if it makes them rethink the Browns' approach to Myles Garrett's trade request.

Then they turn their attention to the 2025 roster and attach superlatives to players.

Who is the most likely to break out?

Which rookie is most likely to succeed?

Who will make their first Pro Bowl?

Who will leave us speechless?

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Does the Browns signing Bailey Zappe tell us anything about their quarterback room?

Thu, 28 Aug 2025 02:01:00 -0000

The Browns brought back quarterback Bailey Zappe on their practice squad, adding a fourth quarterback to a group that includes Joe Flacco, Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders.

Does Zappe's addition tell us anything?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe think it might and they get into it on Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They discuss Zappe's addition and why the quarterback it might impact the most is Shedeur Sanders. They even ask the question: Who is more likely to start this season: Zappe or Deshaun Watson?

Then they talk about the addition of running back Raheim 'Rocket' Sanders and if it has anything to do with the ongoing Quinshon Judkins situation.

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Kenny Pickett traded, Dustin Hopkins cut and more reaction to the Browns' initial 53-man roster

Wed, 27 Aug 2025 02:49:00 -0000

The Browns have a new backup quarterback and a new kicker. Those were the highlights of their initial roster trim to 53.

They traded quarterback Kenny Pickett on Monday night and cut kicker Dustin Hopkins on Tuesday, meaning Dillon Gabriel is now the backup quarterback and Andre Szmyt is the kicker.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to the initial 53-man roster on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They talked about the decision to hand the No. 2 QB job to a rookie and why the Browns made the decision to move on from Hopkins.

They also talked about some other decisions the team made on their initial 53.

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Shedeur Sanders conspiracy theories and Browns roster decisions

Mon, 25 Aug 2025 22:52:00 -0000

Conspiracy theories are flying about the Browns and their treatment of Shedeur Sanders. That's where Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start during the Monday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Have they ever seen anything like this with a Browns quarterback? Is there any legitimacy to it? Have they handled the situation with Sanders the right way?

Then they turn their attention to roster cuts. Mary Kay and Dan made very different choices with their wide receiver room projection, so they discuss the decision between Diontae Johnson and Gage Larvadain. Is it all about performance or is there more to it?

Lastly, they discuss the situation with Quinhson Judkins' roster spot and how the Browns will handle Dustin Hopkins and the kicker position.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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What should we make of performances by Shedeur Sanders, Dillon Gabriel vs. Rams: Postgame podcast

Sun, 24 Aug 2025 00:47:00 -0000

The Browns wrapped up the preseason by beating the Rams on Saturday at Huntington Bank Field. The result doesn't matter, of course, but the quarterback play does.

Rookie Dillon Gabriel continued to push for the No. 2 quarterback job while fellow rookie Shedeur Sanders struggled and was visibly frustrated after he didn't get to run a two-minute drill at the end of the game.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the game in their postgame podcast, starting with audio from their postgame video and then diving into the performances from Gabriel and Sanders.

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Shedeur Sanders embraces the spotlight and the Browns prepare for their dress rehearsal game

Thu, 21 Aug 2025 22:24:00 -0000

On Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Dan Labbe, Mary Kay Cabot, and Ashley Bastock talk Shedeur Sanders' and his candid response to Dillon Gabriel's entertainer vs. competitor comments, his adjustment to a backup role and how he's keeping things light in the quarterback room.

They also discuss the upcoming preseason game, highlighting what they hope to see from the starters, including Joe Flacco's offensive efficiency and the performance of the defensive line.

They speculate on fan reactions to Gabriel and Sanders and debate whether Kenny Pickett's injury might impact the backup quarterback decision.

Plus, they look at the Browns' offensive line and a surprising revelation about Rams quarterback Dresser Winn.

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Myles Garrett's speeding fallout, looming roster decisions and approach to Saturday's dress rehearsal

Wed, 20 Aug 2025 23:08:00 -0000

On Wednesday's epsiode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe, Mary Kay Cabot,and Ashley Bastock talk Myles Garrett, QB decisions and more.

Myles Garrett's responsde to speeding ticket: They discuss Myles Garrett's response to questions and debate whether he handled the situation appropriately.
Which quarterbacks will play on Saturday: They look ahead to the Browns' final preseason game against the Rams and which quarterbacks will play.
Injury Updates: What's the latest on Denzel Ward's status and Cedric Tillman's thumb injury.
Roster Moves: What does the Jowon Briggs trade to the Jets tell us?
Receiver Room: A breakdown of the Browns' current wide receiver situation, including the emergence of Isaiah Bond and Jamari Thrash. Does Diontae Johnson have a chance to make it?
JOK's presence: Thoughts on seeing JOK at practice and the positive impact he has on the team's morale and young players.

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Introduction (0:00-1:05)
Myles Garrett's speeding ticket (1:05-13:15)
Which quarterbacks might play on Saturday? (13:15-17:02)
Injury updates and roster moves (17:02-21:40)
Receiver room discussion (21:40-27:52)
JOK sideline presence (27:52-31:13)
Conclusion (31:13-31:32)

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How long will Joe Flacco hold onto the Browns starting quarterback job?

Wed, 20 Aug 2025 00:18:00 -0000

On Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe delve into everything going on with the Browns as they prepare for their final preseason game.

Joe Flacco as Starting Quarterback

Flacco's opportunity: They discuss Flacco's role as the starting quarterback, highlighting concerns about his age and the potential for turnovers.
Kenny Pickett's future: They also talk about the Browns’ interest in Kenny Pickett.

Isaiah Bond's Legal Issues

Controversial Player Decisions: The episode addresses Bond's legal troubles and how the team is navigating the situation. Is it time to hear from GM Andrew Berry again?

Injury Update on Denzel Ward

Impact on the Team: How would it impact the Browns if Ward misses time?

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Joe Flacco wins the Browns’ QB competition: Now what? + Isaiah Bond signs

Mon, 18 Aug 2025 21:35:00 -0000

It was a newsy Monday and in the latest episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dive into the latest developments surrounding the Browns.

Joe Flacco Named Starting Quarterback: The Browns officially named Flacco as their starting QB. Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan discuss the evolution of the four-way quarterback competition, particularly how Kenny Pickett's injury influenced the decision, and analyze why Flacco was the choice.

Rookie Quarterback Performance: They get into Dillon Gabriel's preseason performance against the Eagles and how it showcased his poise and decision-making. They compare Gabriel with Shedeur Sanders and address the challenges the Browns face in evaluating rookie quarterbacks with potentially limited regular season snaps.

Isaiah Bond Signs with the Browns: The Browns signed Isaiah Bond to a fully guaranteed three-year deal. They cover the factors leading to this decision and the background work the Browns did, Bond's physical traits and how he fits into the Browns' receiving corps, along with the potential risks and rewards of his signing.

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Did Dillon Gabriel make his case on Saturday against the Eagles? Postgame podcast

Sat, 16 Aug 2025 21:54:00 -0000

The Browns won their preseason game on Saturday against the Eagles, 22-13, and Dillon Gabriel was efficient in his first start of the preseason.

Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe broke down all elements of the game on the Orange and Brown Talk live postgame podcast.

They started by discussing the play of Gabriel and his efficiency running the offense and what happened on the pick-six he threw and the fumbled handoff. Did Gabriel quiet some of the noise around the quarterback battle?

Then they talked about the continued strong play of the Browns defensive line after two dominating joint practices against the Eagles. Will the defensive line allow them to win more games than people project this season?

They also discuss depth at the wide receiver and cornerback positions and how the Browns might make their final roster decisions and who is on the bubble with cut-down day getting closer.

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Will Quinshon Judkins rejoin the Browns soon + why would they consider signing Isaiah Bond?

Fri, 15 Aug 2025 03:20:00 -0000

The Browns were the center of controversy on Thursday evening following their second joint practice with the Eagles. Running back Quinshon Judkins won’t be charged in Florida in his domestic violence case and it clears the way for him to return to the Browns soon.

Then, shortly after wide receiver Isaiah Bond saw a no-bill returned in his sexual assault case, he released a statement saying he was signing with the Browns. The Browns say they are doing their due diligence.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed both situations on the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They start with Judkins and what’s next for him and the Browns. Could he still get suspended? When will he return?

Then they talk about Bond and wonder why the Browns are bringing him in, given the various incidents that have happened with their players over the last few years.

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Shedeur Sanders' oblique injury + recapping Day 1 of Browns-Eagles joint practices

Thu, 14 Aug 2025 00:50:00 -0000

The Browns first joint practice against the Eagles on Wednesday was overshadowed slightly when rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders was held out of team drills after suffering an oblique injury early in practice. It means Sanders won’t practice Thursday and is unlikely to get the chance to follow up his strong preseason debut with another good outing in Saturday’s preseason game.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are in Philadelphia and recapped what they saw at the joint practice, starting with the Sanders news and what it means, if anything, for the quarterback competition.

They also discuss what they watched at practice and how they thought the Browns held up against the defending Super Bowl champion Eagles.

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Browns quarterback battle remains unchanged as they head to Philadelphia

Mon, 11 Aug 2025 22:59:00 -0000

Some Browns fans wondered if Shedeur Sanders' performance in the preseason opener might shake up the 4-way quarterback competition as they head into a week featuring two joint practices against the Eagles.

During Monday's practice, things remained about the same, with Joe Flacco handling most of the first-team reps.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the day in Berea on Monday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the state of the competition and why the Browns are continuing to slow play things with Sanders.

They also look ahead to this week's practices and what they're watching.

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How did Shedeur Sanders' performance impact the Browns' QB battle?

Sat, 09 Aug 2025 22:51:00 -0000

Shedeur Sanders' preseason debut took the NFL world by storm on Friday night. Did it flip the Browns' quarterback competition on its head?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe looked at the state of the Browns' 4-way competition following an electrifying performance by Sanders against the Panthers.

They start by discussing their thoughts on Sanders and how he played before they turned the page to how the Browns will handle things now that the NFL world has Shedeur-mania.

Mary Kay also takes us behind the scenes of what it was like in Carolina for Sanders' debut.

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Did Shedeur Sanders make his case Friday night? Postgame podcast

Sat, 09 Aug 2025 04:28:00 -0000

On this postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe dig into the Browns' preseason-opening victory against the Carolina Panthers.

The main topic for discussion, of course, was rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders. Dan and Lance get into his performance, his best plays and potential impact this could have on the quarterback competition.

They also touch on other standouts from the game, including Luke Floriea, Gage Larvadain and how the running game looked.

They look at the Browns' defense and special teams and their strong performances and glimpse ahead to joint practices with the Philadelphia Eagles next week.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Shedeur Sanders' opportunity and Joe Flacco's momentum in Browns' QB competition

Thu, 07 Aug 2025 00:17:00 -0000

The Browns are in Carolina and Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get caught up on what happened Wednesday during a joint practice between the Browns and Panthers. Mary Kay, who is in Carolina, discusses what she saw on Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

In this episode they discuss:

Shedeur Sanders' start: Does Sanders' upcoming start in the preseason game against the Panthers represent a real opportunity for him to shake up the quarterback race or just another chance to get reps with the backups?
Joe Flacco's push: Flacco's growing momentum in camp, including quotes from Flacco himself about his desire to win the starting job, have them wondering if Flacco is the frontrunner at this point.
Practice insights: Mary Kay shares her observations from the Browns' practice in Carolina, including how the starting offense performed against the Panthers' starting defense.
Preseason perspective: The importance (or lack thereof) of preseason games and joint practices in evaluating players and making roster decisions.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Shedeur Sanders expected to start for the Browns + Mike Kaye preview the Panthers

Tue, 05 Aug 2025 23:19:00 -0000

Browns rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders is expected to start on Friday night against the Panthers, following a joint practice against them on Wednesday.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Sanders’ potential start and what it means for the fifth-round pick moving forward.

They talk about Sanders’ opportunity to get first-team reps for the first time and if he can disrupt this quarterback battle with a strong week.

Then, Mike Kaye from the Charlotte Observer joins the show to tell you everything you need to know about the Panthers. What will Sanders face against the Panthers? How has Bryce Young progressed? Mike discusses it all.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Browns sign Tyler Huntley (but first, 15 minutes on the other quarterbacks)

Tue, 05 Aug 2025 00:38:00 -0000

The Browns signed quarterback Tyler Huntley on Monday night right as Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe were recording their normal Orange and Brown Talk podcast training camp recap pod.

The first 15(ish) minutes of the podcast is spent resetting the quarterback competition as the Browns head to Carolina for a joint practice on Wednesday and then their preseason opener on Friday.

They talked some of the Browns quarterback options pre-Huntley and why it matters that Sanders came out of his arm soreness Saturday OK and it didn't seem like Dillon Gabriel was super limited on Monday.

Then the Browns signed Huntley. Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan reacted in real time.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Shedeur Sanders reports arm soreness and the Browns' QB battle starts to take shape

Sat, 02 Aug 2025 19:44:00 -0000

In this episode, the Orange and Brown Talk team of Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start by talking about the arm soreness that kept rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders out of team drills on Saturday.

They discuss how Sanders' arm issue prevented him from participating in team drills and if it's a concern moving forward.

They also explore Kenny Pickett's frustration with his hamstring injury, which prevents him from utilizing his mobility, a key differentiator in the quarterback battle.

The conversation shifts to Joe Flacco, who seems to be gaining momentum in the competition. With injuries affecting the other quarterbacks, Flacco's experience and familiarity with the system position him as a comfortable choice for the coaching staff, especially with tough early-season matchups looming.

The podcast also touches on Dillon Gabriel's performance, noting that he hasn't seized the opportunity to build momentum. Ultimately, the episode emphasizes that with the preseason games and joint practices against Carolina and Philadelphia approaching, time is running out for the quarterbacks to make their case for the starting role.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Hear Mary Kay Cabot's speech accepting the Bill Nunn award at Pro Football Hall of Fame Gold Jacket dinner

Sat, 02 Aug 2025 00:54:00 -0000

Mary Kay Cabot is a Hall of Famer.

She accepted the Bill Nunn award on Friday night at the Gold Jacket Dinner in Canton.

On this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, listen to her entire acceptance speech.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Browns training camp gets physical on Wednesday

Wed, 30 Jul 2025 21:51:00 -0000

On Wednesday's training camp recap edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labby, Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock start by focusing on the increased physicality of camp before moving on to the quarterback competition before they discuss the impact of Martin Emerson Jr.'s season-ending injury.

Topics include:

Live Tackling: For the first time under Kevin Stefanski, the Browns engaged in live tackling during practice.

Quarterback Competition:

Shedeur Sanders got reps against the first-team defense.
Dillon Gabriel is getting more opportunities but is showing inconsistencies.
It's starting to look like Joe Flacco's team.

Martin Emerson Jr.'s Injury: This creates an opportunity for Greg Newsome II.

Denzel Ward: Ward had a standout practice. If Ward stays healthy, he could be in contention for Defensive Player of the Year.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Browns lose Martin Emerson Jr. + the Haslams hold their annual press conference

Tue, 29 Jul 2025 23:43:00 -0000

On Tuesday’s episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start by discussing the devastating Achilles injury suffered by cornerback Martin Emerson Jr. during practice. They share their personal feelings about Emerson and experiences with his dedication, positive attitude and the unfortunate timing of the injury as he enters a contract year.

They also discuss the impact on the team's cornerback depth, potential replacements like Greg Newsome II, and how defensive strategies might have to shift.

Then they discuss what Dee and Jimmy Haslam's said on Tuesday.

They start by addressing how the Haslams addressed Quinshon Judkins' domestic violence case and the team's approach to addressing such issues.

They also talked about Jimmy Haslam's response to the narrative that he influenced the drafting of Shedeur Sanders, emphasizing the team's evaluation of rookie quarterbacks and the long-term outlook for the position.

The podcast concludes with a debate about the Haslams' messaging regarding a potential rebuild, balancing realistic expectations with the need to maintain a winning culture and fan morale.

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How Kenny Pickett's injury will impact the Browns quarterback competition

Mon, 28 Jul 2025 22:47:00 -0000

The Browns quarterback battle took a major turn this weekend. Kenny Pickett's hamstring injury threw a wrench into the competition, potentially opening the door for Joe Flacco to seize the starting role and Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked about it on their Day 5 training camp recap podcast.

On Monday's edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast they discussed:

The impact of Pickett's injury and the uncertainty surrounding his return.
How Flacco can capitalize on the increased first-team reps.
Whether Shedeur Sanders will get a chance to shine with the first team.
Standout players from today's practice, including Diontae Johnson and Carson Schwesinger. (plus, hear about Ashley's feature on Schwesinger.)

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Is it time for the Browns to whittle down their QB competition?

Sat, 26 Jul 2025 20:25:00 -0000

In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe delve into the ongoing quarterback competition for the Browns and whether it's time to narrow down the contenders.

They discuss the potential of both rookie quarterbacks, Shedeur Sanders and Dillon Gabriel, alongside Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett and debate whether the team should focus primarily on Flacco and Pickett as the frontrunners for the starting position.

They also highlight the apparent maturity displayed by Shedeur Sanders, who is adapting well to the competition and what they've seen from him as a teammate and a person.

Then they dig into the Browns' wide receiver situation.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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How will the Browns proceed with Quinshon Judkins? + The QB competition continues

Fri, 25 Jul 2025 01:26:00 -0000

Browns GM Andrew Berry addressed the arrest of Quinshon Judkins and Shedeur Sanders’ speeding tickets for the first time on Thursday at Browns training camp. Berry held his annual training camp press conference on Day 2 of camp.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe addressed what Berry said, starting with how he handled questions about Judkins and his arrest and ongoing legal case. They talked about whether the Browns could actually consider not bringing Judkins to camp or parting ways with the running back.

Then they talked about Sanders’ speeding issues and what Berry had to say to the rookie quarterback as well as how Sanders might handle things on Friday when he talks to the media.

They wrap up by updating the four-way quarterback competition and why things are so complicated.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Did we learn anything new about the Browns' quarterbacks on Wednesday?

Thu, 24 Jul 2025 02:52:00 -0000

The Browns are back at training camp and practiced for the first time on Wednesday. It marks the real start to the team's four-man quarterback competition and it was mostly status quo during the first practice.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the opening practice of training camp on Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They started by talking about what they saw from the four quarterbacks, especially the two rookies.

Then they talked about the vibes around practice. The Browns are promising a more physical, competitive camp and they discussed if they are already seeing signs.

They also touch on Quinshon Judkins and what Kevin Stefanski did -- or didn't say -- about the rookie running back.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Reasons to get excited for Browns training camp this summer

Tue, 22 Jul 2025 21:13:00 -0000

The Browns practice for the first time on Wednesday as they open their training camp and they are flying under the radar in a way they haven't the past few years.

It's fair to say, in fact, maybe people aren't super excited about this camp.

So what should they get excited about?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dive into some things fans can get excited about on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They discuss the four-way quarterback competition, the new-look defensive line and moving past Deshaun Watson.

They even spend a little time recapping their brief summer breaks.

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What's next for the Browns and Quinshon Judkins + Will they get a real QB evaluation this season?

Mon, 21 Jul 2025 22:55:00 -0000

The Browns are opening training camp this week, but first they are dealing with Quinshon Judkins' arrest.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the latest regarding the team's rookie running back and what to expect with camp opening.

Then they turn their attention to the four-way quarterback competition that is really getting underway this week. Does anyone have the leg up as camp kicks off? Have they created a scenario where it's going to be too difficult to get a real evaluation on any of the young quarterbacks?

They also talk about draft positioning and how it impacts roster decisions.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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How can Shedeur Sanders win the Browns starting job?

Fri, 18 Jul 2025 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns quarterback battle will swing back into action with the opening of training camp soon and it won't take long to sort out who will ultimately win the job.

Fifth-round pick Shedeur Sanders seems like a long shot to start Week 1, but is there a scenario where it could happen? What would it ultimately look like?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are going through each quarterback in the competition and discussing what they need to do to have a shot at the job and what it could look like if they did, in fact, win the job.

Today they discuss Sanders and where he needs to catch up and make an NFL comp for the young signal-caller that would be ideal for the Browns if he reached that level.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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How can Dillon Gabriel win the Browns starting job?

Wed, 16 Jul 2025 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns quarterback battle will swing back into action with the opening of training camp soon and it won't take long to sort out who will ultimately win the job. Dillon Gabriel was a surprise third-round pick by the Browns, but his selection indicates they believe in him and have high hopes for him to compete. Will he prove them right? Will his size be an issue? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe continue our series going through each quarterback in the competition and discussing what they need to do to have a shot at the job and what it could look like if they did, in fact, win the job. Today they discuss Gabriel and why it's not the longest shot on the roster for him to win the job. Follow us:

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How can Kenny Pickett win the Browns starting job?

Mon, 14 Jul 2025 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns quarterback battle will swing back into action with the opening of training camp soon and it won't take long to sort out who will ultimately win the job.

Kenny Pickett is a former first-round pick and he represented the first move the Browns made this offseason, acquiring from the Eagles in a trade.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe continue our series going through each quarterback in the competition and discussing what they need to do to have a shot at the job and what it could look like if they did, in fact, win the job.

Today they discuss Pickett and if he can live up to what the Steelers thought he could be when they selected him in 2022.

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How can Joe Flacco win the Browns starting job?

Fri, 11 Jul 2025 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns quarterback battle will swing back into action with the opening of training camp soon and it won't take long to sort out who will ultimately win the job.

Joe Flacco saved the Browns' season in 2023 and is back in 2025. What does he need to do to win the job? What will it look like if he does? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are going through each quarterback in the competition and discussing what they need to do to have a shot at the job and what it could look like if they did, in fact, win the job.

Today they discuss Flacco and why it might make the most sense to start the season with him as the top signal-caller.

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Which non-QB prospects should Browns fans know in the 2026 NFL Draft?

Wed, 09 Jul 2025 04:01:00 -0000

We're still talking NFL Draft on this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Tim Bielik, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe move away from the quarterbacks and look at other players Browns fans should get to know with two first-round picks next year.

They discuss a transitioning offensive line before the conversation shifts to wide receivers.

They also explore defensive prospects, including Ohio State's Caleb Downs,

The episode concludes with a lightning round of quick prospect names.

Highlights:

Spencer Fano from Utah is a standout offensive line prospect.
Caleb Downs is a top safety prospect with great ball skills.
Nyck Harbor is an athletic receiver with immense potential.
The Browns may need to focus on offensive line depth in the draft.
Harold Perkins is a versatile linebacker with playmaking ability.

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Which quarterbacks do Browns fans need to know in the 2026 NFL Draft?

Mon, 07 Jul 2025 04:01:00 -0000

We're starting draft prep on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Tim Bielik, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe dig into the upcoming NFL draft, focusing first on the quarterback prospects for the 2026 class.

They discuss various players, including LaNorris Sellers, Garrett Nussmeier, Cade Klubnik and others.

The conversation highlights the importance of physical tools, production, and the ability to perform under pressure, as well as the evolving landscape of college football and its influence on draft prospects.

They discuss Drew Allar, a local talent, and his performance at Penn State, as well as emerging quarterbacks like John Mateer, Fernando Mendoza and Haynes King.

Takeaways

LaNorris Sellers is a unique prospect with impressive physical tools.
Cade Klubnik's performance improved significantly after he started running more.
The 2026 class is loaded with talent.
Drew Allar has the physical tools but needs to improve decision-making.
Top NFL Draft 2026 Quarterback Prospects Unveiled

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Is talent more important than scheme? + Jim Schwartz's philosophies

Wed, 02 Jul 2025 04:01:00 -0000

In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Lance Reisland delve into various aspects of football strategy, focusing mostly on the defensive side of the ball.

They start by discussing the importance of choosing between the best available talent versus scheme fit during the draft, Jim Schwartz's defensive philosophy group-by-group, the roles of defensive linemen, linebackers and cornerbacks.

They wrap up by discussing the significance of special teams, even talking a little about long snappers.

Takeaways

You win with players, not schemes.
Defensive linemen create madness in the backfield.
Linebackers are “covering kicks.”
Pressure is more important than sacks.
Safeties tell the truth in coverage.
You lose games with blocked punts.
Special teams operations must be elite.
Long snappers are specialized roles.

Chapters

0:00 Drafting Strategies: Talent vs. Scheme Fit

4:51 Understanding Jim Schwartz's Defensive Philosophy

10:11 Linebackers and Their Role in Schwartz's Defense

15:10 Cornerbacks and Safety Deployment in Coverage

20:04 Defensive Fronts: 4-3 vs. 3-4 and Long Snapper Insights

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How the Browns' offensive line works and the importance of personnel groupings: Football 101

Tue, 01 Jul 2025 04:01:00 -0000

In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Lance Reisland delve into the intricacies of football strategy and the Browns. They discuss the struggles of the Browns' offensive line, the importance of identity and the nuances of pass protection.

The conversation also covers Kevin Stefanski's run scheme, personnel groupings and the impact of quarterback height on performance.

They even get into the effectiveness of the Eagles' 'Tush Push' play and the qualities needed in a quarterback to fit the Browns' strategy for success.

Takeaways

The offensive line needs a clear identity to succeed.

Kevin Stefanski's run scheme focuses on weak side zone and gap schemes.

Understanding personnel groupings is crucial for offensive strategy.

Nickel and dime packages are defensive adjustments based on offensive formations.

The Eagles' 'tush push' is effective due to their physicality and technique.

Joe Flacco may be the best fit for the Browns' current offensive strategy.

Chapters

0:00 Introduction to Football 101

1:01 Browns Offensive Line Struggles and Solutions

5:24 Pass Protection Changes and Impact of Quarterback Style

10:25 Understanding Kevin Stefanski's Run Scheme

13:27 Personnel Groupings: 11, 12, and 13 Packages

17:09 Defensive Packages: Nickel and Dime Explained

19:47 Quarterback Height and Its Impact

22:52 The Tush Push: Why It Works for the Eagles

27:09 Browns' Quarterback Strategy for Winning Games

30:21 Best Suited Quarterback for the Browns' Offense

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What did we learn about Shedeur Sanders, Dillon Gabriel in offseason program?

Mon, 30 Jun 2025 04:01:00 -0000

In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Lance Reisland recap the Browns' offseason program, focusing first on quarterback evaluations, defensive line insights and more.

They analyze the performances of rookie quarterbacks Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders, the potential of the defensive line with the addition of Mason Graham and the concerns surrounding the receiving corps.

The conversation also covers the running back situation and improvements in the offensive line, providing a comprehensive overview of the team's preparations leading into the season.

Takeaways

Dillon Gabriel showed polished footwork and an elite arm.
Shedeur Sanders has accuracy but needs to improve footwork.
Quarterback competition is influenced by team investment in players.
Mason Graham is expected to excel once pads are on.
Concerns exist about the depth of the receiving corps.
Cedric Tillman is a key player to watch this season.
Quinshon Judkins could be a significant contributor in the run game.
The offensive line looks improved and in better shape this year.

Chapters

0:00 Introduction and Overview of Upcoming Podcasts

3:03 Quarterback Evaluations: Dillon Gabriel

6:12 Quarterback Evaluations: Shedeur Sanders

8:45 Quarterback Competition and Future Prospects

12:01 Defensive Line Insights: Mason Graham

17:52 Defensive Line Analysis and Young Players

21:01 Concerns About the Receiving Corps

23:04 Running Back Evaluations: Quinshon Judkins and Dylan Sampson

29:54 Offensive Line Improvements and Overall Team Outlook

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Can a humbled Diontae Johnson resurrect his career in Cleveland?

Thu, 26 Jun 2025 23:42:00 -0000

In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss Diontae Johnson's recent appearance on a podcast, where he reflected on his tumultuous past year in the NFL. They explore the implications of his admission of humility, the red flags in his behavior with previous teams, and the opportunities that lie ahead with the Browns.

The conversation also touches on the dynamics of the quarterback competition, roster changes, and insights into the upcoming training camp.

Takeaways

Diontae Johnson admitted to being humbled.
His past behavior raised red flags about his attitude and commitment.
Johnson's performance in Carolina showed potential but was marred by attitude issues.
The Browns see Johnson as a reclamation project with Pro Bowl potential.
Kenny Pickett's role in the quarterback competition is still evolving.
Johnson needs to embrace his role and be a good teammate.
The Browns' roster changes reflect a focus on cost-saving measures.
Fans should watch for the dynamics between the quarterbacks during camp.

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0:00 Diontae Johnson's Humbling Experience

12:05 Red Flags and Opportunities

19:31 Kenny Pickett and Quarterback Dynamics

23:43 Roster Changes and Cost-Saving Measures

28:11 Training Camp Insights Follow us:

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Which Browns players face critical seasons in 2025?

Wed, 25 Jun 2025 22:00:00 -0000

In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss players for the Browns who have things to prove in the upcoming season.

They talk about the futures of players like Greg Newsome II and Martin Emerson Jr., both of whom are in contract years. The conversation also covers Dawand Jones’ transition to left tackle, a decision on whether or not to extend David Njoku and Diontae Johnson's last chance to make an impact in the NFL.

Each player's performance this season could have lasting implications for their careers and the team's success.

Takeaways

Newsome is on his fifth-year option and needs to prove himself.

Martin Emerson needs a rebound year to secure his future with the team.

Jones is transitioning to left tackle, a critical position for the Browns.

Njoku is in a contract year.

Johnson has a lot to prove after being signed by the Browns.

The Browns need to make decisions on multiple players this season.

Injuries have impacted Njoku's performance in recent years.

The Browns are looking for cost-effective solutions in their roster management.

Player development is crucial for the Browns' success this season.

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0:00 Introduction to Key Players for the Browns

2:41 Newsome’s Future and Role

6:54 Emerson's Development and Challenges

12:28 Jones’ transition to Left Tackle

18:07 Njoku's Contract Year and Expectations

23:43 Johnson's Last Chance in the NFL

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What is the Browns formula for winning in 2025?

Tue, 24 Jun 2025 23:31:00 -0000

In this episode of the Orange Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Mary Kay Cabot discuss the Browns' formula for winning this season. They focus on the importance of turnovers, the need for a strong running game and the potential of the defense.

They discuss the significance of playing clean football and the impact of young players stepping up on the defensive side of the ball.

Takeaways

The Browns need to play clean football to win games.

Turnovers are crucial; winning the turnover battle increases chances of victory.

The defense must adopt a mentality of forcing turnovers.

A strong running game is essential for controlling the clock.

Young players have opportunities to prove themselves this season.

The offensive strategy may return to a more traditional run-heavy approach.

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Will any of the Browns current QBs start Week 1 of the 2026 season? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 23 Jun 2025 22:38:00 -0000

In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Mary Kay Cabot discuss the Browns' quarterback situation, focusing on the potential for a new starter in 2026, the implications of having a left-handed quarterback and the media attention surrounding Shedeur Sanders.

This Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the podcast also addresses preseason strategies under Kevin Stefanski and the dynamics of the interior defensive line, discussing the mix of young players and veterans on the inside.

Takeaways

The Browns are likely to draft a quarterback in the first round next year.
Shedeur Sanders garners media attention due to his fame and potential.
Kevin Stefanski may prioritize joint practices over preseason games for evaluations.
The interior defensive line features a mix of young talent and experienced players.
Mason Graham and Mike Hall Jr. are expected to bring pressure from the inside.
The Browns' quarterback situation remains fluid and uncertain.

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Does Shedeur Sanders speeding ticket matter?

Thu, 19 Jun 2025 23:09:00 -0000

Browns rookie quarterback Shedeur Sanders has had two speeding stops twice recently and it has made headlines. Are we making too big a deal of this or is this something that could impact the team's quarterback competition?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about why these recent incidents do matter and if there's anything to read into this as far as how far Sanders still needs to go before he's ready to be the face of an NFL franchise.

Are they concerned about what's happened recently or is it a blip on the radar? Does this play a role in the 4-man quarterback competition the Browns are currently holding?

They discuss the incident on the latest Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

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Myles Garrett's next level, Dawand Jones' potential and draft pick futures

Wed, 18 Jun 2025 20:48:00 -0000

In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss key questions surrounding the Browns as they approach training camp. The conversation centers on Myles Garrett's leadership and expectations, the challenges faced by Dawand Jones in establishing himself at left tackle and the future of Andrew Berry’s draft picks and who, among them, is facing an important season in 2025.

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00:00 Introduction to the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast

01:08 Garrett's Leadership and Expectations

02:44 Garrett's Career Performance and Consistency

04:27 Postseason Performance and Legacy

06:05 The Importance of Leadership in the Team

13:49 Dawand Jones and Left Tackle Position

24:12 Andrew Berry's Draft Picks and Their Future

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How Browns pass-catchers are more than just the receivers + minicamp takeaways

Tue, 17 Jun 2025 22:38:00 -0000

Browns minicamp offered us a continued look at the Browns offense under head coach Kevin Stefanski and new offensive coordinator Tommy Rees and it's one of the things we're looking back on during Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe took the opportunity to look at some of the non-quarterback takeaways from last week's mandatory minicamp and the offseason program as a whole.

What did we learn about the pass-catching group and why is it about more than just the receivers?

Who has the edge at edge rusher opposite Myles Garrett?

Did we get a look at what promises to be a more physical training camp?

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Will the Browns keep four quarterbacks? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 16 Jun 2025 23:08:00 -0000

The Browns are in the midst of a 4-man quarterback battle, but even after they pick the winner, could they still have all four quarterbacks on the 53-man roster?

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss that possibility on Monday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about why it could happen and how it would look to keep all four on the roster.

Then they answer questions from Football Insider subscribers starting with the stability that head coach Kevin Stefanski and GM Andrew Berry offer, assistant coaches who stood out this spring and if there could be a package put in place for the rookie quarterbacks if they aren't starting. Follow us:

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Where do things stand in the Browns quarterback battle after minicamp?

Thu, 12 Jun 2025 23:32:00 -0000

The Browns wrapped up three days of mandatory minicamp on Thursday and, as has been the case all spring, the four quarterbacks were the center of attention.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reset the quarterback competition on Thursday after watching the final practice.

Is Kenny Pickett the frontrunner to start? What about Joe Flacco and his chance to win the job? Where does Dillon Gabriel fit in all of this? What was up with the team's approach with Shedeur Sanders?

Does the 2026 draft matter more than all of this?

They take a look at where things stand with attention turning towards training camp.

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Shedeur Sanders climbing, Joe Flacco laughing and Diontae Johnson's last chance

Thu, 12 Jun 2025 01:50:00 -0000

The Browns are giving wide receiver Diontae Johnson a chance to revive his career after a 2024 season that saw the former Pro Bowler bounce around, unable to stick with a team.

Johnson spoke for the first time since signing with the Browns on Wednesday and Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to it on Wednesday's minicamp recap podcast.

They also talked about Shedeur Sanders getting some second-team reps ahead of Dillon Gabriel, something we haven't seen yet to this point, and how much it matters.

They wrap up the podcast by talking about Joe Flacco and the vibes around him as he's back in Cleveland and having fun.

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Myles Garrett is ready to step up and Dillon Gabriel is getting first-team reps

Tue, 10 Jun 2025 23:27:00 -0000

The Browns held their first practice of mandatory minicamp on Tuesday, the first of three days in a row before they take their break leading into training camp.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked about what they saw and heard during practice and at the press conferences after when they heard from Myles Garrett, Shedeur Sanders and Dillon Gabriel.

They discuss what Garrett had to say about embracing a bigger leadership role and whether his lack of attendance at OTAs contradicts it.

They also get into the competition between Gabriel and Sanders and why the Browns are doing what they’re doing with reps even though it might not match exactly what we’re watching each quarterback do.

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Will the Browns regret letting Nick Chubb leave? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 09 Jun 2025 21:12:00 -0000

Browns fans will have to watch Nick Chubb wear a different uniform this season as he is visiting and expected to sign with the Texans. Our Football Insider subscribers had plenty of questions about Chubb and his departure on Monday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talk Chubb and if this could end up being a win-win for him and for the Browns.

They also talk about how different training camp will be this year for the Browns and why it matters before they turn their attention to the quarterback battle.

Why was there such a disconnect between the outside view of Shedeur Sanders and what NFL teams thought? What if the Browns start hot with one of the veterans? Will we see one of the young players?Mary Kay and Dan discuss it all on the eve of mandatory minicamp.

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Will Myles Garrett deliver a signature season and other OTA leftovers

Thu, 05 Jun 2025 23:57:00 -0000

Browns defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz believes Myles Garrett will have his best season ever -- and needs to after his massive contract extension over offseason.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start with expectations for Garrett on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast and what a best ever season looks like for a former Defensive Player of the Year.

They talk about Dawand Jones and the importance of this season for him and why it matters that he has focused on being in shape this offseason.

Then they address tempering expectations for Shedeur Sanders and being cautious about making big declarations about the fifth-round pick and discuss Aaron Rodgers finally landing in Pittsburgh.

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Which Browns rookie quarterback has the edge right now?

Thu, 05 Jun 2025 00:11:00 -0000

The Browns quarterback competition continued on Wednesday during the second open OTA practice of the team’s offseason program. It featured both rookie quarterbacks, Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders, getting 11-on-11, the first time we saw Sanders take team reps during an open practice.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe cover all things rookie quarterback battle on their practice recap podcast.

They discuss why they believe Gabriel still has the upper hand, even if his performance isn’t necessarily ahead of Sanders right now.

They also talk about the challenges awaiting them in minicamp and if it’s too early to speculate about either quarterback starting.

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Which quarterback fits the Browns' scheme best? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 03 Jun 2025 20:27:00 -0000

On Tuesday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe and Mary Kay Cabot start off by discussing the Browns' quarterback situation, focusing on Shedeur Sanders, Joe Flacco and Kenny Pickett.

They analyze the fit of these quarterbacks within the team's offensive scheme, the importance of receiver dynamics, and the potential vulnerabilities in the roster due to injuries. The conversation also touches on the implications of past draft decisions, particularly regarding Jed Wills, and the expectations for the upcoming season.

Some of what they discuss includes:

* Sanders needs to improve his recognition and decision-making.

* Flacco has a strong grasp of the offensive scheme.

* Pickett's development is crucial for the team's success.

* Quarterback compatibility with receivers is essential for offensive success.

* Injuries could significantly impact the wide receiver group.

* The Browns are looking for explosive plays while minimizing turnovers.

* The team's offensive scheme is designed to be quarterback-friendly.

Chapters (AI-generated)

0:00: Introduction and Setting the Scene

1:11: Evaluating Shedeur Sanders' Fit for the Offense

5:22: Quarterback Comparisons: Flacco vs. Sanders

10:19: Kenny Pickett's Development and Challenges

14:47: The Importance of Scheme Fit for Quarterbacks

20:37: Receiver Dynamics and Quarterback Compatibility

27:31: Injury Vulnerabilities in the Roster

34:09: Jed Wills' Career and Future Prospects

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Browns giving Shedeur Sanders team reps and the state of the quarterback competition

Mon, 02 Jun 2025 19:53:00 -0000

Yes, Shedeur Sanders is getting 11-on-11 team reps, even though we didn’t get to see any of them last week during the lone practice open to the media.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Monday’s pod from the Browns 25th annual charity golf tournament by discussing head coach Kevin Stefanski’s acknowledgement that Sanders is getting team work along with the other quarterbacks.

They also discuss the state of the quarterback battle and where things stand with two weeks of the offseason program remaining.

Then they get into what left guard Joel Bitonio had to say about the offense and a return to a more familiar Kevin Stefanski style of doing things.

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Do Browns OTA stats matter? + A major award for Mary Kay Cabot

Thu, 29 May 2025 21:34:00 -0000

In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss Wednesday's OTA practice. They focus on the quarterback competition, particularly Shedeur Sanders' performance and emphasize the importance of context in evaluating practice stats.

They also get into the significance of attendance during OTAs.

Then they celebrates Mary Kay winning the Bill Nunn Jr. Award.

Takeaways:

*Shedeur Sanders' impressive stats need context.

*Seven-on-seven drills do not equate to real game performance.

*The importance of 11-on-11 reps in evaluating quarterbacks.

*Shedeur Sanders is an intriguing prospect but currently QB4.

*OTA attendance impacts team dynamics and player competition.

*David Njoku's absence is more concerning given the new offense.

*Mary Kay Cabot's major award.

Time stamps (AI generated):

0:00 Introduction to OTAs and Shedeur Sanders' Stats

3:02 Contextualizing Quarterback Performance in OTAs

5:56 The Importance of 11-on-11 Reps

8:47 Evaluating Shedeur Sanders' Potential

11:57 OTA Attendance and Its Implications

18:07 Leadership and Team Dynamics in OTAs

25:00 Celebrating Mary Kay's Achievement

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Does Browns' quarterback pecking order matter in OTAs?

Thu, 29 May 2025 01:46:00 -0000

Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski is stressing this offseason that the order his quarterbacks go during practice doesn't matter as much as we think it does.

On Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe respectfully disagreed.

They started their recap of the first OTA practice open to the media by assessing what they saw from the four-man quarterback battle, who went in which order and how they all looked after seeing the group together for the first time.

They talk about Joe Flacco looking young, Kenny Pickett as the early front runner and how Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders handled their opportunities.

They also talked about some other non-quarterback takeaways from the day.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Who will be the odd man out in the Browns quarterback room? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 27 May 2025 22:36:00 -0000

The Browns are about to embark on a four-man quarterback battle and one of the four will end up as the odd man out when all is said and done. Whether that means a trade, a spot on the practice squad or just a release will depend on who it is, but it’s one of the questions on the minds of one of our Football Insider subscribers.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe address it on a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast on Tuesday on the first day of OTAs.

They discuss the quarterback battle before getting to questions about the state of the wide receiver room and more.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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10 things about the Browns (Pt. 2): Young QBs, young DTs and young WRs

Fri, 23 May 2025 20:00:00 -0000

The Browns will hold OTAs beginning next week and it has us thinking about some things.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the 10 things Mary Kay Cabot is thinking in a post she put up on Wednesday.

In Part 2 of our podcast, they start by talking about what the young quarterbacks on the roster can learn from the old dogs they’re competing with.

They also talk about the young defensive tackles and what the Browns hope to accomplish inside on the defensive line before they turn their attention to receiver and who they’re watching in that room.

They wrap up the pod with some Memorial Day watching recommendations over the long weekend.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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10 things about the Browns (Pt. 1): The schedule, the tush push and the O-line

Thu, 22 May 2025 21:34:00 -0000

The Browns will hold OTAs beginning next week and it has us thinking about some things.Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the 10 things Mary Kay Cabot is thinking in a post she put up on Wednesday.

In Part 1 of a two-part podcast, they start by talking about the early schedule and how it might impact the quarterback battle before they turn their attention to the back portion of the schedule and how the Browns face a difficult finish to the 2025 season.

They also talk about the “tush push” surviving and if the Browns could implement the play made famous by the Eagles before they talk about left tackle and expectations for Dawand Jones.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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How will the Browns manage their quarterback battle?

Tue, 20 May 2025 21:59:00 -0000

In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the Browns' quarterback competition and how the Browns will conduct a 4-way battle for the starting job.

They talk about the operation of the competition between Kenny Pickett, Joe Flacco, Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders and how it will work over the remainder of the offseason program and the importance of having clarity before training camp.There's also the matter of off-the-field work.

Who will stand out in the meeting rooms and how will all of that play into the decision.

They even touch on Deshaun Watson and his recovery and if there's even a sliver of a chance he could play for the Browns again.

Chapters (approximate and AI generated)

0:00: Introduction to the Quarterback Competition

5:11: Analyzing the Quarterback Depth Chart

10:49: The Importance of Pre-Snap Operations

15:55: Evaluating Rookie Quarterbacks

20:09: Deshaun Watson's Recovery and Future

34:10: Conclusion

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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What expectations should Browns fans have for 2025? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 19 May 2025 23:20:00 -0000

The Browns had a disappointing season in 2024. Should fans have expectations this year for a similar season?

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answered that question on a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

In this episode, they discuss:

2025 Season Expectations (1:18): Will the Browns contend for the No. 1 overall pick?
QB Competition (5:30): Early quarterback competition thoughts with Kenny Pickett, Dillon Gabriel, Joe Flacco, and Shedeur Sanders.
Impact of Schedule (9:00): The difficult schedule and how it impacts the Browns.
Shedeur Sanders Signing (17:05): Shedeur Sanders' contract, the money he lost and the opportunity he has.
Draft Decisions (24:12): Why did the Browns draft two quarterbacks and two running backs?
JOK's Future (33:16): A look at the possibility of JOK ever playing again after his injury.

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Music credits:

Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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What did we learn from Browns rookie minicamp with Lance Reisland

Fri, 16 May 2025 20:44:00 -0000

The Browns held their rookie minicamp last weekend and we’re taking one more look back at what we saw with our film guy, Lance Reisland, on a weekend edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Dan Labbe and Lance talk about what they saw from the Browns’ draft class during the two days they were out at practice.

They start with quarterbacks Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders and how they thought each fared.

Then they move through the rest of the draft class and discuss how Mason Graham looked as well as the two running backs, Quinshon Judkins and Dylan Sampson, and tight end Harold Fannin Jr.

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Music credits:

Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Browns 2025 schedule release: No prime time games and not many breaks

Thu, 15 May 2025 01:24:00 -0000

The Browns 2025 schedule is out, meaning we know the when after already knowing the who and where. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe reacted to the schedule on Wednesday night shortly after its release.

They start by discussing the difficulty of the first month and what the Browns face before they head to London in Week 5.

They also talk about when an ideal time might be to put in a rookie quarterback and try to guess how many quarterbacks will start for the Browns this season.

Lastly, they go over what it means for them as far as travel and places Browns fans should consider going.

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Music credits:

Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Would Browns QB Dillon Gabriel have been drafted higher if he were taller? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 13 May 2025 22:46:00 -0000

The Browns know the who with their schedule and Wednesday night they'll find out the when after the NFL releases its schedule. They already know one game -- Week 5 against the Vikings in London.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talk about the schedule release on a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast on Tuesday.

They discuss the challenges of playing the Vikings in London before they look at some of this rookie class. Would Dillon Gabriel have been a first-round pick if he were only a little taller? Which non-quarterbacks stood out at rookie minicamp? Did the Browns draft some dogs in this class?

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Music credits:

Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah will miss 2025; now what for JOK and the Browns?

Tue, 13 May 2025 01:48:00 -0000

The Browns will be without Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah in 2025 and his football future is in doubt after they placed him on the reserve/PUP list.

That's where Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe begin their Monday podcast.

They talk about Owusu-Koramoah the player and the person and how the Browns will replace him and if there's hope he could play again. They get into all the things Owusu-Koramoah meant to this defense.

Then they take an abbreviated look back at rookie minicamp and talk about the discourse on the quarterbacks after they practiced for the first time with the Browns.

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Music credits:

Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Browns rookie quarterbacks Dillon Gabriel, Shedeur Sanders take center stage at rookie minicamp

Sun, 11 May 2025 00:29:00 -0000

It was quarterback day on the second day of Browns rookie minicamp. Third-round pick Dillon Gabriel and fifth-round pick Shedeur sanders took center stage on Saturday when they spoke to the media before practice. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the day in their daily video report following the second practice of the weekend. They talked about what they heard from Gabriel and Sanders and what it said about each player’s approach to the quarterback competition. They also touched on a few other things some draft picks did, including defensive lineman Mason Graham throwing up during practice and linebacker Carson Schwesinger intercepting Gabriel.

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Music credits:

Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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What we learned about Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders at Browns rookie minicamp

Sat, 10 May 2025 02:09:00 -0000

The Browns opened their rookie minicamp on Friday and, unsurprisingly, the two rookie quarterbacks, third-round pick Dillon Gabriel and fifth-round pick Shedeur Sanders, took center stage. Neither of them spoke to the media but they did practice for the first time in Browns uniforms.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed the day on Friday’s rookie minicamp recap Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They discussed the early pecking order of the two and why it matters who takes reps when, even if head coach Kevin Stefanski disagrees, and discuss what you can and can’t learn in rookie minicamp.

They also touch on what they saw and heard from other Browns rookies on Friday.

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Music credits:

Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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What to expect from Browns rookie minicamp this weekend

Thu, 08 May 2025 22:32:00 -0000

The Browns are holding their rookie minicamp this weekend at the team facility in Berea, offering the first opportunity to get a look at their 2025 rookie class up close.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe previewed rookie minicamp on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, looking ahead to what they’re really paying attention to this weekend when they hear from rookies and watch them practice.

They talked about the quarterback battle and how this weekend impacts that as well as the other rookies and why Browns fans could really find themselves falling in love with members of this draft class once they take the field.

On X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/orangebrowntalk⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Music credits:

Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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The Shedeur Sanders experience is coming to the Browns

Wed, 07 May 2025 22:06:00 -0000

The Shedeur Sanders era really gets started for the Browns this weekend when they hold their rookie minicamp. Sanders and the rest of the team’s rookie class will be in town for their first taste of life in the NFL.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about the Sanders experience and what the Browns and Browns fans can expect with Sanders around and the celebrity he brings with him on Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They discuss all the noise around Sanders and how he and the Browns will deal with it.They wrap up by taking a detour into the most surprising losses they’ve seen in-person.

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Music credits:

Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Do the Browns have room for all 4 quarterbacks? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 05 May 2025 21:58:00 -0000

The Browns will hold their rookie minicamp this weekend in Berea and we’ll get our first look at two of their four quarterbacks when Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders take the field.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discussed the quarterback room and the coming quarterback competition on Monday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They talked about the early quarterback pecking order and whether the Browns can go into the season with four quarterbacks on the roster.

They also talk about the addition of wide receiver Diontae Johnson before they talk about the potential future of Nick Chubb and why the Browns aren’t the best fit for their long-time veteran who is currently a free agent.

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Music credits:

Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

Link: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Why did the Browns gamble on Shedeur Sanders?

Thu, 01 May 2025 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns made headlines on Saturday during the NFL Draft when they traded up and selected Colorado's Shedeur Sanders, a move made more surprising because the Browns picked Dillon Gabriel in the third round on Friday.

What were they thinking? Tim Bielik, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe discussed the quarterback selections on Part 2 of their draft recap podcast.

What did they see in Gabriel? Why double down and pick Sanders? Did being so aggressive at quarterback leave the draft feeling short?They dig into all of it on this draft recap podcast.

Listen to the first part on our YouTube channel, Apple podcasts or Spotify.

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Music credits:

Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

Link: ⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow⁠⁠⁠

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What did the Browns tell us with their NFL Draft strategy?

Wed, 30 Apr 2025 04:01:00 -0000

Our NFL Draft review week continues on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast with Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland joining our Wednesday edition of the pod to look at what the Browns did over the weekend.

Lance, Tim and Dan Labbe go through the Browns' non-quarterback picks and dissect what they bring to the Browns and what they indicate for the direction the team is headed in 2025.

They discuss the trade-down decision that resulted in Mason Graham and more picks, the two running backs they added and how they fit together and the addition of Harold Fannin Jr.

This is Part 1 of a 2-part podcast. The three discuss the quarterback decisions on tomorrow's podcast.

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Music credits:

Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

Link: ⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow⁠⁠⁠

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Did the Browns win their trade down with Jacksonville?

Tue, 29 Apr 2025 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns started off the 2025 NFL Draft with a bang, trading down from No. 2 overall, acquiring the fifth pick, which they used on Mason Graham, the two picks they used on Quinshon Judkins and Dylan Sampson and a 2026 first-round pick. Did they already win the trade? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe looked back on the trade with some hindsight on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They also talk about some of the other draft moves the Browns made and discuss if it made sense for this team to take two quarterbacks and two running backs, Nick Chubb's future and more.

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Music credits:

Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

Link: ⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3898-ice-flow⁠⁠⁠

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Why did the Browns pick two quarterbacks in the NFL Draft?

Mon, 28 Apr 2025 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns took two quarterbacks in the NFL Draft over the weekend and both qualified as surprises, first picking Dillon Gabriel at No. 94 and then trading up to take Shedeur Sanders at No. 144. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked about the choice to pick two quarterbacks on an Orange and Brown Talk draft recap podcast, kicking off a week of draft recap pods. They discuss why the Browns picked two quarterbacks, who they seem to favor based on where they picked them and how a four-person quarterback competition is going to play out. #browns #nfl #brownsnews #clevelandbrownsnews #nfldraft

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Music credits:

Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Emergency pod: Browns trade up and take Shedeur Sanders in the NFL Draft

Sun, 27 Apr 2025 00:40:00 -0000

The Browns made headlines on Saturday when they traded their last two picks on Day 3 of the NFL Draft to move up to No. 144 overall and pick Colorado quarterback Shedeur Sanders.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to the Browns' decision to trade up and acqure Sanders in a quick emergency podcast on Saturday.

They start by taking you inside the moment the Browns made the trade up while three of their four draft picks were being introduced in a press conference and our reactions mid-press conference to the trade.

Then they get into the addition of Sanders and what it means and how the Browns will balance the reality of Sanders being a fifth-round pick alongside all of the things that come with adding Sanders to the team.

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Music credits:

Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Why did the Browns pick Dillon Gabriel on Friday in the NFL Draft?

Sat, 26 Apr 2025 06:10:00 -0000

The Browns wrapped up what was setting up to be a solid Day 2 of the NFL Draft by taking Oregon quarterback Dillon Gabriel at No. 94, a head-scratching move that left many wondering what they were thinking.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their recap podcast by discussing the decision to take Gabriel and why they think the Browns made the pick, how they could have better used the pick and why Gabriel was the quarterback the Browns had to have.

They also recap the other picks they made that made Friday such a promising day before the Gabriel pick.

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Music credits:

Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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What was the thinking behind the Browns' trade down?

Fri, 25 Apr 2025 05:50:00 -0000

The Browns traded out of the No. 2 overall pick on Thursday night and selected Michigan's Mason Graham at No. 5, acquiring extra picks, including the No. 36 pick this year and a first-round pick next year.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the Browns' opening round and tried to frame their decision to pass on Travis Hunter and trade down from Graham.

They talk about the decision and what they think GM Andrew Berry's vision is with this trade.

Then they look ahead to Friday and discuss what they think the Browns should do when they go on the clock.

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Music credits:

Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Who will win the QB job? + Denzel Ward's growth and Browns options at No. 2

Thu, 24 Apr 2025 00:09:00 -0000

The Browns re-introduced Joe Flacco during a press conference on Wednesday, a day after the Browns offseason program began. Flacco will be part of a quarterback battle that includes Kenny Pickett and potentially a rookie.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discussed the coming quarterback battle and if Flacco starting at quarterback is a given.

They also talk about the maturation of Denzel Ward and the leadership role he's taken on as he has become a veteran on the team.

Then they wrap up by talking about Thursday's first round of the NFL Draft and the Browns' options at No. 2 overall and what they might do on Friday if they start the second round choosing between Shedeur Sanders and Jalen Milroe.

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Music credits:

Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Should the Browns trade the No. 2 overall pick?

Tue, 22 Apr 2025 20:55:00 -0000

The rumors keep flying with draft day getting closer and the Browns are front-and-center with the No. 2 overall pick, especially after the Titans made it known they plan on making their pick at No. 1.

A report on ESPN stated the Browns and Giants, who pick third, are getting calls for their picks and they aren't slamming down their phones, but does it mean either team would actually trade the pick?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked through the possibility of trading the No. 2 overall pick on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast and if they think it's something the Browns would actually do.

They also talk about the No. 33 overall pick to start the night on Friday night and what the Browns could do with that pick.

They wrap up the podcast by addressing linebacker Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah reporting for the first day of the team's voluntary offseason program on Tuesday and his future.

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Music credits:

Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Will the 2025 NFL Draft be transformational for the Browns? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 21 Apr 2025 21:14:00 -0000

Stop us if you've heard this before: this NFL Draft is super important for the Browns.

Still, it is really important for the Browns, a team coming out of a failed attempt to go all-in and win a Super Bowl and trying to remake their roster on the fly. They hold five picks in the first 104 and four picks on the first two days of the draft, including Nos. 2 and 33 overall.

Will this be a transformative draft? Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe address that on Monday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They also talk about how the Browns will use Travis Hunter, how aggressive they should be in pursuing Jalen Milroe and how big of a priority replenishing the offensive line.

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NFL Draft defensive line preview + players the Browns have to take and a 7-round mock draft

Fri, 18 Apr 2025 20:30:00 -0000

The Browns go on the clock in less than a week and currently hold 10 picks, representing an opportunity to infuse much-needed young talent on the roster.

Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland join Dan Labbe for their final draft preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Their focus in this podcast is the defensive line and they start by letting Lance make his case for a guy that he likes at No. 2 overall.

Then they go through their favorite edge rushers and defensive tackles before they each make a case for a player they believe the Browns should take.

They wrap up the podcast with a 7-round Browns-only mock draft and then peek ahead to future drafts with players they've noticed while watching this year's prospects.

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Should the Browns bet on Jalen Milroe? + How they view Travis Hunter

Fri, 18 Apr 2025 00:53:00 -0000

Browns GM Andrew Berry held his predraft media availability on Thursday and he spoke about Alabama quarterback Jalen Milroe in glowing terms. That's where Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start recapping their reaction to Berry's pre-draft availability on Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They also discuss what Berry had to say about likely No. 2 overall pick Travis Hunter and how the Browns plan to use him. Did anything change about their thoughts on what the Browns will do at No. 2? Could they consider trading out of the pick?

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Is it better for the Browns to miss taking a quarterback or miss by passing on one?

Wed, 16 Apr 2025 20:20:00 -0000

The Browns' decision at No. 2 overall in the NFL Draft is starting to become clear and it's starting to look like it won't be a quarterback. This begs the question about what's the worse outcome: taking a swing at quarterback and missing or not taking a swing and having that quarterback succeed elsewhere?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing that question. Which would be a worse outcome for the Browns when they do turn in that card on Thursday night of the draft?

Then they take a peek at the second and third rounds of the draft and discuss the positions they would prioritize on Day 2 as a "must-fix" position.

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Will Travis Hunter succeed as a 2-way player and how will the Browns use him?

Tue, 15 Apr 2025 23:00:00 -0000

All the buzz around the Browns and No. 2 overall pick is centering on Travis Hunter, bringing up an interesting wrinkle with the Giants, who hold the No. 3 overall pick, scheduling a last-minute private workout with Shedeur Sanders, who has also been linked to the Browns throughout the draft process.

What does that workout tell us? Is it more confirmation that the Browns are passing on Sanders in favor of Hunter?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk through the top of the draft and some of the latest developments on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

After they talk about the Giants workout with Sanders, they dive into Hunter playing two ways in the NFL. How do they think the Browns will use him? Do they think he can hold up playing both positions for a large number of snaps?

They also talk about trading down and building through the trenches and touch on Abdul Carter, who hasn't been in the discussion much lately for the No. 2 overall pick.

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Why would the Browns pass on Shedeur Sanders? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 14 Apr 2025 23:15:00 -0000

The NFL Draft is less than two weeks away and Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe are starting to have second thoughts about the direction the Browns might go with the No. 2 overall pick.

They start there on the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Doesn't taking Shedeur Sanders make sense? That's the first question they answer and they discuss the dots they're connecting in starting to lean towards the Browns not taking Sanders at No. 2 overall and what it could mean for the second tier of draft prospects.

If they do pass on Sanders, what direction could they go at the position? Could they acknowledge that maybe this draft won't produce their future franchise quarterback? Doesn't it make sense to just take the best player available and would it by the front office and coaching staff some time?

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer those questions and more on Monday's podcast.

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Emergency Podcast: Joe Flacco is back: What his signing means for the Browns

Fri, 11 Apr 2025 21:13:00 -0000

Joe Flacco is back with the Browns, signing a one-year deal on Friday and reuniting with Kevin Stefanski and Co. after the magical run they had together in 2023, when he helped them reach the playoffs.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe had to get together for an emergency podcast on Friday to discuss Flacco's signing and what it means for the Browns.

Does adding Flacco change their draft strategy at all? What does it tell us about the offense with Kevin Stefanski taking more control? What are our expectations for Flacco now that he's back with the Browns?

Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan go over all the aspects of Flacco coming back to Cleveland.

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How does Travis Hunter fit with the Browns? + wide receivers, running backs and tight ends and Mock Draft 2.0

Fri, 11 Apr 2025 04:05:00 -0000

In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Tim Bielik, Lance Reisland and Dan Labbe dive deep into the NFL Draft, focusing on potential offensive playmakers for the Browns.

They start by discussing the dual-threat capabilities of Travis Hunter and the implications of selecting him over Shedeur Sanders at No. 2.

Then they talk through their favorite wide receiver prospects and how they fit the Browns' needs.

Then they get into the running backs the Browns could land and Tim goes over what he believes is one of the most important things to look for when evaluating running backs.

The discussion then shifts to tight ends.

Lastly, it's mock draft time. They go through a four-round, Browns-only mock draft and debate each pick.

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00:00 Introduction to the Draft Show

02:00 Travis Hunter: The Dual Threat

05:40 Evaluating Travis Hunter's Potential

11:50 The Two-Way Player Dilemma

14:07 Travis Hunter vs. Shedeur Sanders

17:03 Wide Receiver Prospects for the Browns

39:04 Exploring Running Back Options

01:07:02 Tight End Talk

01:20:04 Mock Draft

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Is the Shedeur Sanders to Cleveland momentum fading?

Thu, 10 Apr 2025 00:26:00 -0000

In this episode of the Orange Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the latest quarterback news for the Browns, focusing on the implications of Louis Riddick's comments regarding Shedeur Sanders and the team's draft strategy.

They explore the challenges of developing quarterbacks in Cleveland, the impact of the Deshaun Watson trade, and the potential directions the team may take in the upcoming draft. The conversation highlights the complexities of the Browns' situation and the various factors influencing their decisions as they prepare for the draft.

They discuss:

* Louis Riddick's insights on Shador Sanders are significant.

* The Browns' quarterback development history under scrutiny.

* Deshaun Watson's trade has lasting implications for the team.

* Kevin Stefanski's ability to develop quarterbacks.

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How the Browns should approach a decision between Shedeur Sanders and Travis Hunter

Tue, 08 Apr 2025 20:51:00 -0000

The Browns appear headed for a decision between Colorado quarterback Shedeur Sanders and wide receiver/cornerback Travis Hunter at No. 2 overall in the NFL Draft.

Mary Kay Cabot wrote about her opinion on Tuesday and then jumped on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast with Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe to talk about her thoughts on the matter and hear what Ashley and Dan think about the decision.

They discuss why it might be better to land a good quarterback over a great player at another position and why they would take Sanders.

They also talk about the risk of missing on Hunter and Penn State pass rusher Abdul Carter vs. the risk of missing the opportunity to take a good quarterback.

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Is it Shedeur Sanders or Travis Hunter for the Browns at No. 2? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 07 Apr 2025 19:22:00 -0000

The NFL Draft is less than three weeks away and we’re brining back our Browns draft preview podcasts with Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland.

Every Friday on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, we’ll preview a different area of the draft. This week, we start with the quarterback position.

Tim, Lance and Dan Labbe compare Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders at the top of the draft and talk through if Sanders is the right option for the Browns at No. 2 overall.

They also go through the second tier of draft quarterbacks and some of the later-round options before they do a Browns-only mock of the first four rounds.

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Is Shedeur Sanders the answer for the Browns? Orange and Brown Talk draft preview

Fri, 04 Apr 2025 03:22:00 -0000

The NFL Draft is less than three weeks away and we’re brining back our Browns draft preview podcasts with Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland.

Every Friday on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, we’ll preview a different area of the draft. This week, we start with the quarterback position.

Tim, Lance and Dan Labbe compare Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders at the top of the draft and talk through if Sanders is the right option for the Browns at No. 2 overall.

They also go through the second tier of draft quarterbacks and some of the later-round options before they do a Browns-only mock of the first four rounds.

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Should the Browns wait until 2026 to draft a quarterback? Hey, Mary Kay!

Wed, 02 Apr 2025 22:23:00 -0000

The Browns have done a good job of keeping their NFL Draft plans at No. 2 overall under lock and key and owner Jimmy Haslam even floated the idea of waiting until next year to fix the position.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answered questions from Football Insider subscribers on Wednesday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. One of those questions: Should the Browns wait until 2026 to draft a quarterback?

They discuss the importance of the position and why they both believe taking one at No. 2 is what they would do.They also answer questions about taking multiple quarterbacks in the draft before they discuss the potential of Kenny Pickett.

They even answer a questions about how the Browns GM in the movie “Draft Day” would approach this draft.

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Are we really talking up Kenny Pickett as a Browns starter? Kind of

Tue, 01 Apr 2025 20:11:00 -0000

The Browns first big move at quarterback this offseason was to acquire Kenny Pickett from the Eagles and now they’re starting to talk up the former Steelers draft pick as a potential Week 1 starter.

In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss Pickett’s potential role as a starting quarterback. They explore the Browns’ overall quarterback strategy, including potential bridge options, and get into the long-term vision for the roster.

How does Pickett fit in? They talk through all of it before they look at expectations for this season and spend some time on Kirk Cousins.

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How much blame do the Haslams get for the Deshaun Watson trade?

Mon, 31 Mar 2025 23:19:00 -0000

Browns owner Jimmy Haslam admitted on Monday that the trade for Deshaun Watson was a big swing and miss and taking accountability for the mistake, leading many on social media to take it as a sign that the whole trade was the Haslams’ idea.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed how much blame the Haslams really deserve and how much should be spread around on Monday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

First, they talk about what Haslam had to say about the No. 2 overall pick and not forcing a quarterback.

They also talk about Kirk Cousins getting spotted in Cleveland, if he could still be in play and if that’s even the best course of action for the Browns.

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Did Russell Wilson signing with the Giants tip the Browns’ draft plans? Hey, Mary Kay!

Wed, 26 Mar 2025 21:12:00 -0000

Did the Giants signing Russell Wilson give us a hint as to what the Browns are planning to do with the second pick in the NFL Draft? That’s what at least one of our Football Insider subscribers was wondering on today’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer questions from our subscribers on the latest edition of the podcast.

They discuss Wilson signing with the Giants, the Browns working out Cam Ward and if they should trade up for him and talk through some of the other options for the Browns in the draft.

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Truth and fiction in the NFL Draft + Browns choices at quarterback

Tue, 25 Mar 2025 22:29:00 -0000

NFL Draft silly season in full form and, as long as the Browns are a candidate to pick quarterback Shedeur Sanders at No. 2 overall, they’ll be right in the middle of it.

It happened on Monday when a social media rumor circulated about Deion Sanders and comments he likely didn’t make at a convention last week.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk draft season in 2025 and the world of high-profile quarterbacks.

They also talk about Cam Ward’s pro day and if the Browns should consider making an offer to the Titans to move up to No. 1 overall before they get into more Internet rumors: Would the 49ers really trade Brandon Aiyuk?

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Resetting the QB market: What the Browns' options look like in NFL Draft, free agency

Mon, 24 Mar 2025 23:22:00 -0000

The NFL Draft is a month away and the Browns are setting out on the pro day circuit this week to get an up-close look at the quarterbacks in this draft.

With the veteran quarterback market slowly starting to take shape and a draft decision awaiting the Browns, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe took an opportunity to reset the quarterback market on Monday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They talk about where things stand in the draft and free agency and how the market will develop over the next month for both the rookies and the veterans.

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Should the Browns trade up for the No. 1 pick in the draft? Hey, Mary Kay!

Wed, 19 Mar 2025 22:24:00 -0000

The Browns currently hold the second pick in the 2025 NFL Draft, but should they think about moving up to the No. 1 overall pick?

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss that idea and more in a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast on Wednesday.

Then they turn their attention to the potential of adding Carson Wentz as another veteran option this season. Do they prefer Wentz over Flacco? Is it as crazy an idea as it sounds?

They also discuss the 2016 trade the Browns made with the Eagles allowing them to draft Wentz and also get into the future of Jedrick Wills Jr. and if he could return to Cleveland.

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Assessing Browns' roster needs ahead of 2025 NFL Draft

Tue, 18 Mar 2025 21:08:00 -0000

A week into free agency seems like the perfect time to re-assess the Browns roster with the draft five weeks away. Where do things look good? Where do the Browns need help? Will they get it in the draft?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe go through the roster on Tuesday’s edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They go through the positions where the Browns might need the most help and try to determine if those positions are in good enough shape heading into the season.

They even spend a little time talking about Nick Chubb and if the Browns should consider bringing him back now that the market for him is slow to develop.

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Browns QB options: Veterans, draft picks and 2 in the first round?

Mon, 17 Mar 2025 22:44:43 -0000

We know the Browns are very much in the quarterback market and the game of veteran quarterback musical chairs is in full swing right now. Even Jameis Winston is getting involved with a visit to the Giants on Monday.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe take a look at the quarterback market and where things stand and reset where the Browns are at on Monday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They lay out some of the veteran options that are still available and what the Browns' approach is telling us about their draft plans.

Then, they talk about the Browns' options in the draft and Mary Kay throws out an idea that not many have discussed to this point.

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What message was Browns pass rusher Myles Garrett trying to deliver in his press conference?

Sat, 15 Mar 2025 04:01:00 -0000

Browns pass rusher Myles Garrett held a press conference on Friday after agreeing to a record extension on Sunday and deciding to stick with the Browns after requesting a trade in February.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked about Garrett’s press conference on the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They get into the message Garrett trided to deliver about why he requested the trade and what changed to lead him to signing the extension — and why he said it wasn’t about the money.

They also talk about the work he has to do to repair his relationship with the fans and why they don’t think he’ll regret staying in Cleveland, if he doesn’t win a Super Bowl.

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Will Kenny Pickett actually start for the Browns? Hey, Mary Kay!

Fri, 14 Mar 2025 15:00:01 -0000

New Browns quarterback Kenny Pickett said on Thursday he believes he’s still a starting quarterback in the NFL and he’s here to compete to start. It had at least one of our Football Insider subscribers nervous Pickett would end up starting.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talked about Pickett and the plan with him on Thursday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They talk about the Browns' plan for the makeup of the quarterback room and how Pickett fits into the plan.

They also get into the plan with the No. 2 pick in the NFL Draft and if the Browns have to take a quarterback and what it would look like if they didn’t and if waiting until next year to solve quarterback is a better plan.

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Should the Browns sign Russell Wilson?

Thu, 13 Mar 2025 02:05:00 -0000

The Browns are having free agent quarterback Russell Wilson in for a visit on Thursday, an intriguing development on the quarterback front and one that could impact their plans with the draft approaching.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk through the possibility of the Browns signing Russell Wilson on Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They talk about if it’s as crazy an idea as people are making it seem on social media. Then they get into what it could mean for what the Browns do at the No. 2 overall pick and finding a rookie quarterback.

They also spend some time talking about Kirk Cousins and what’s going on with the Falcons quarterback.

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Why did the Browns trade for Kenny Pickett? Free agency recap

Tue, 11 Mar 2025 01:46:02 -0000

The Browns had a quiet first day of the NFL’s legal tampering period, agreeing to acquire Kenny Pickett from the Eagles and planning to move on from defensive tackle Dalvin Tomlinson.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe got together on Monday night and discussed the early part of free agency and the moves the Browns made on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

What was the thinking in acquiring Pickett and what will his role be on the team? What’s next at quarterback?

What did today tell us about the Browns' approach this offseason if anything, and what do we expect to happen over the next few days, including when the new league year begins on Wednesday afternoon?

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Browns surprise NFL world, extend Myles Garrett: Emergency Podcast

Sun, 09 Mar 2025 21:03:58 -0000

The Browns and Myles Garrett agreed to a record-breaking contract extension on Sunday, ending the saga surrounding his trade request and locking Garrett in through 2030.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to the record-setting extension on an emergency edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They talk about what changed between Jimmy Haslam refusing to meet with Garrett and the agreement on this extension before they get into how much credit GM Andrew Berry deserves for this and what’s next for Garrett and the Browns.

They also get into the quarterback situation now that the Garrett situation is resolved and what they think the Browns should do there as they work their way towards the 2025 season.

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Is it time for the Browns to give in to Myles Garrett's trade request?

Fri, 07 Mar 2025 20:41:25 -0000

Browns pass rusher Myles Garrett requested a meeting with owner Jimmy Haslam about his ongoing trade request and Haslam rebuffed him. It’s the latest in the saga of Garrett’s trade request and the Browns holding firm in the face of Garrett wanting out.

In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe delve into the ongoing saga of Myles Garrett’s trade request from the Cleveland Browns.

They discuss the implications of Jimmy Haslam’s decision to defer to Andrew Berry and not meet with Garrett. Does Haslam owe Garrett a meeting? Did he do the right thing?

They also ask if all of this drama is worth it? Would it be in the Browns’ best interests to just give in and trade him?

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Browns freeing up money, Nick Chubb’s future and Joel Bitonio’s back

Thu, 06 Mar 2025 19:19:12 -0000

The Browns restructured Deshaun Watson’s contract on Thursday to help get them cap compliant and free up some room for the offseason. It came a day after they got the good news that Joel Bitonio will be back for another season.

In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss Watson’s contract restructure and the team’s roster goals for the upcoming season

They also talk about the future of Nick Chubb and why the Browns are letting him hit the market and if it’s the right move before they delve into the future of Elijah Moore and the plan at receiver.

Then they get into the implications of Bitonio’s return and what it means before they veer into veteran quarterback options and if they think the Browns should bring back Joe Flacco.

Approximate time stamps:

0:00 Deshaun Watson’s Contract Restructure

2:52 Browns' Roster Goals and Free Agency Plans

5:48 Nick Chubb’s Future with the Browns

9:10 Elijah Moore’s Performance and Potential Departure

27:48 Joel Bitonio’s Return: A Positive Sign for the Browns

39:52 Quarterback Options: Looking Ahead

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Shedeur Sanders rumors and the possibility of the Browns trading up for Cam Ward

Wed, 05 Mar 2025 02:25:31 -0000

NFL Draft season means rumor season and the rumors are flying about the Browns' potential No. 2 pick, Shedeur Sanders. It has been reported this week that a quarterback coach who was in a team interview with Sanders didn’t like his attitude.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about the report and more on the Wednesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They discuss how they view reports like this and what it means about Sanders as he comes in for a visit with the Browns this week.

Then they talk about Cam Ward and if the Browns should consider moving up to No. 1 to have a shot to select Ward in the draft.

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Which quarterbacks will the Browns pursue in free agency? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 03 Mar 2025 23:09:00 -0000

The Browns will venture into free agency next week when the new league year opens on March 12, two days after the legal tampering period begins.

One of the positions they will look to fill is quarterback, searching a for a veteran likely to pair with a rookie. What options could they explore?

Mary Kay Cabot answers that question in the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. Mary Kay and Dan talk through some of the options.

They also talk about last week’s NFL Combine and what they took away from it and what matters in the draft process and answer questions about the NFLPA team report cards, Myles Garrett and more.

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What did we learn on quarterback day at the NFL Combine and what does it mean for the Browns?

Sat, 01 Mar 2025 00:02:34 -0000

The Browns are back in the quarterback market so quarterback day at the NFL Combine matters once again with the draft less than two months away.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe listened to the quarterbacks talk on Friday and then recorded the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They start by talking about the top two prospects and the contrasts in their personalities and playing styles. How do Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders fit with the Browns? Is one a better option than the other?

Then they get into some of the players who make up the rest of this year’s class. Should the Browns draft Will Howard? What about Jaxson Dart and Jalen Milroe? They get into all of it and more.

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What changes with Myles Garrett and the Browns after he refuses to negotiate an extension?

Fri, 28 Feb 2025 00:47:07 -0000

The Browns and Myles Garrett have reached a potential inflection point in their standoff, with Garrett and his camp not interested in negotiating an extension. It’s another twist in the saga between the two sides.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dig into the latest on the Garrett vs. the Browns situation on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast from the NFL Scouting Combine.

They talk about what this means and if this is what could cause the Browns to decide to trade Garrett. They also talk about what could have happened between the two sides and the role Klutch Sports plays in all of this.

They also talk about the team building impact of trading Garrett and if it would change their view on how the Browns approach this offseason.

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Why did the Browns grade so poorly in NFLPA survey?

Thu, 27 Feb 2025 00:53:53 -0000

The Browns — and Kevin Stefanski — did not fare well on the NFLPA’s 2025 report card.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their Wednesday Orange and Brown Talk podcast from the NFL Scouting Combine by talking about why Stefanski and the Browns graded so poorly, what they can and can’t understand and what the Browns should do about it.

First, they spend some time on Kevin Stefanski backing up GM Andrew Berry on hanging on to Myles Garrett after his trade request.

Then they get into Deshaun Watson rehabbing in Cleveland and what it says about Watson and the Browns and how this will play out.

They wrap up the podcast by getting into Stefanski’s glowing comments about this year’s quarterback draft class.

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Browns GM Andrew Berry isn’t budging on Myles Garrett’s trade request, so now what?

Wed, 26 Feb 2025 00:33:25 -0000

Browns GM Andrew Berry spoke on Tuesday for the first time since Myles Garrett went public with his trade request and, unsurprisingly, Berry held his ground in regards to the request.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss what Berry had to say about Garrett and more on their Tuesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast from the NFL Scouting Combine.

They also talk about Berry acknowledging that running back Nick Chubb will hit free agency and tryied to pick through the crumbs of what he said to see if he gave any hints about the team’s free agency or draft plans.

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Could the Browns really get in on the Matthew Stafford sweepstakes?

Mon, 24 Feb 2025 16:44:01 -0000

The Browns are confident that if they get quarterback figured out, they can start winning again, so when a quarterback like Matthew Stafford might be available, it’s incumbent on the Browns to inquire.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe took a break from scrambling to get ready to leave for the NFL Scouting Combine on Monday on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast to talk about the Browns and Stafford and if the Browns really should get aggressive in going after Stafford and if they could actually land him.

They also talk about the release of safety Juan Thornhill and what’s next at the position and who needs to step up.

Lastly, they discuss Shedeur Sanders not throwing at the Combine and whether they expect Cam Ward to do the same and why it does — or doesn’t — matter.

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Wading through pre-Combine rumors about Myles Garrett and Browns QB plans

Fri, 21 Feb 2025 19:47:00 -0000

The Browns and Myles Garrett remain at a standstill as the NFL Combine starts next week. It’s one of the flashpoints in this ordeal as the event brings GMs and coaches together in one place.

In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the ongoing situation surrounding Garrett, including potential trade rumors and contract negotiations.

They delve into the financial implications of trading Garrett, the value he brings to the team and the Browns' draft strategy, particularly regarding quarterback prospects.

Among the highlights:

Garrett’s situation is complex.
The Browns have control over Garrett’s future due to his contract.
Andrew Berry is likely to slow play the situation with Garrett.
The value of a player like Garrett is difficult to quantify in terms of wins.
It’s essential to question the motives behind leaked information during the Combine.

Time stamps (approximate)

00:00 Introduction and Garrett’s Situation

05:40 Financial Implications of Trading Miles Garrett

15:06 Assessing the Value of Garrett

20:16 Quarterback Decisions and Draft Strategies

30:51 Rumors and Speculations Ahead of the Draft

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What does the future hold for Nick Chubb and other key Browns veterans?

Thu, 20 Feb 2025 16:33:00 -0000

Browns cornerback Greg Newsome II wants to be in Cleveland long-term, even with free agency looming after this season. He’ll have a chance to make his case in 2025, but his role is still up in the air.

The Browns will have to make decisions sooner on some other players who have been around a while — while they wait on the decision of their longest-tenured player about his future.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look to the future on a number of Browns free agents on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast after they discuss Newsome’s future with the team.

They talk about Jedrick Wills Jr., Nick Chubb, Joel Bitonio and Jameis Winston and whether they will be around for a little while longer or if their time in a Browns uniform is over.

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What if the Browns pass on a quarterback at No. 2 in the NFL Draft?

Tue, 18 Feb 2025 23:58:53 -0000

The Browns will go on the clock early in Round of the 2025 NFL Draft and it won't take long to know what they think of the top of this quarterback class. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk through what could happen on Tuesday's edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They start by discussing Cam Ward's comments about teams passing on him regretting it.

Then they get into two Browns-only mock drafts, one Ashley put up on Tuesday and another Dan put up on Saturday. They went in opposite directions at quarterback and edge rusher and they discuss their reasoning.

What would the reaction be if the Browns passed on a quarterback? How would they solve the position if they don't do at No. 2 overall? Who are some of their veteran options?

They get into all of it on this podcast.

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Will the Browns draft multiple quarterbacks in 2025? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 17 Feb 2025 23:13:13 -0000

The Browns will certainly take a quarterback in the 2025 NFL Draft and could very well take one at No. 2 overall. Should they take more than one quarterback?

It’s one of the questions Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer on the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Would they take more than one quarterback in the draft? Which player currently on the roster could break out in 2025? Do the Browns need to prioritize running back this offseason given the direction the offense appears headed?

They answer those questions and more in the latest podcast.

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Will the Browns be worth watching in 2025? Ask us Anything Part 2

Sat, 15 Feb 2025 05:01:00 -0000

We’re back with Part 2 of our Ask Us Anything edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe keep the mailbag open from our Football Insider subscribers and answer their questions about football, life and more.

They start by trying to convince one disenfranchised fan that the Browns will be worth watching in 2025 before they get into what they love most about the city of Cleveland, what it’s like when they go on the road for a game and what they like most about covering the Browns and the NFL.

We even get a Mary Kay story time involving travel, riding the team bus and a bucket of chicken.

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How do we react to big Browns news like a Myles Garrett trade request? Ask us Anything Orange and Brown Talk

Thu, 13 Feb 2025 22:26:57 -0000

Which Browns seasons were our least and most favorite to cover? How do we react to something like the Myles Garrett trade request?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe answered those questions and more in an Ask Us Anything edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They talk about the good and bad seasons they’ve covered, the content opportunities of a big, breaking news story, last-minute Valentine’s Day gift advice, offseason plans and more.

They even make time for some football talk, like whether the Browns will re-sign Nick Chubb and why they left themselves short at tackle last season.

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3 questions about the Browns quarterback options this offseason

Wed, 12 Feb 2025 00:18:42 -0000

The NFL calendar is turning fully to the offseason and the real work is underway for the Browns, who hold the No. 2 overall pick in the draft.

On Tuesday’s episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Dan Labbe, Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock discuss Dane Brugler’s Top 100 board and his rankings of quarterbacks Sheduer Sanders and Cam Ward.

They also talk about veteran quarterback options like Kirk Cousins and Sam Darnold before they get into what it would look like if the Browns didn’t take a quarterback at No. 2 overall.

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00:00 Introduction

00:56 Draft Season and Quarterback Rankings

03:57 Evaluating Quarterback Potential

08:08 The Importance of Team Fit for Quarterbacks

11:12 Veteran Quarterback Options for the Browns

15:03 Assessing Kirk Cousins and Other Veterans

19:56 Trading Down vs. Staying at Number Two

23:56 Hypothetical Scenarios for the Browns' Draft Strategy

27:00 Reality TV and Game Show Preferences

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Should the Browns sign Aaron Rodgers? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 10 Feb 2025 23:54:07 -0000

There could be another veteran quarterback option for the Browns now that the Jets have decided to move on from Aaron Rodgers. Would they have an interest in the former league MVP and Super Bowl champ to start for them next season?

That's where Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start in their latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk through why the Browns might consider Rodgers and why they might decide to avoid pursuing him.

They also dig more into the Myles Garrett trade request and the fallout from his media tour Super Bowl week and what he had to say in a week full of interviews. Is there any coming back from what he had to say? Are they more or less convinced he'll actually get traded?

They also try to predict what the Browns quarterback room will look like in 2025 and discuss the rookie quarterback options.

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Exploring Browns' options, consequences of Myles Garrett trade saga

Sat, 08 Feb 2025 05:01:00 -0000

CLEVELAND, Ohio — The fallout from Myles Garrett’s trade request from the Browns continued throughout Super Bowl week, including Denzel Ward’s comments about his future in Cleveland if the Browns did trade their star pass rusher.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe started their weekend edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Ward’s comments and the potential fallout on the roster if Garrett’s trade request is granted by the Browns.

They also spend more time on Garrett and the Browns' options, if they believe that he’ll actually get traded and what this looks like if it turns ugly between the two sides.

They wrap up by looking ahead to Sunday’s Super Bowl matchup between the Chiefs and Eagles.

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Why the Browns might not trade Myles Garrett

Wed, 05 Feb 2025 05:01:00 -0000

Myles Garrett made his trade request to the Browns on Monday and the reactions to his request and guesses as to the future came in hot and heavy.

With a little time to reflect, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe got together for a day-after Myles Garrett Orange and Brown Talk podcast and talked through how their viewpoint has evolved since Garrett made the request.

They discuss why it’s difficult for the Browns to trade Garrett and why it simply might not make sense. They also talk about how they think this all will end and if Garrett has any leverage in this situation.

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Emergency podcast: Myles Garrett wants the Browns to trade him

Tue, 04 Feb 2025 00:42:55 -0000

Browns pass rusher Myles Garrett went public with his trade request on Monday morning, starting off Super Bowl week with a bang and shaking the NFL world.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to Garrett’s trade request on this emergency edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They start with their initial reaction to the trade request and what they first thought when Garrett’s statement came out. Then they get into the timing of Garrett going public with this when he did.

They discuss the Browns' options as they stand steadfast in their stance to not trade him and if they should at least think about it.

They also get into if they actually think Garrett will be traded and, if not, how this will end.

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Do Browns fans need to reset expectations for next season? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 03 Feb 2025 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns hope to turn around their fortunes quickly after a 3-14 season in 2024, but it won’t be easy, given the elite talent at quarterback in the AFC and the holes on the roster.

Should Browns fans reset their expectations for the near future?

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer that question on a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They discuss the difficulty of winning the Super Bowl, especially out of the AFC with all the quarterbacks in the conference before they turn their attention to the draft.

Do they have to take a quarterback? Is there a scenario where they don’t take a quarterback? Who could they take later in the draft if they don’t like a quarterback at No. 2?

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Evaluating Cam Ward, Shedeur Sanders and Browns' QB options in NFL Draft

Fri, 31 Jan 2025 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns face a big decision with the No. 2 overall pick in the NFL Draft. First, do they want to take a quarterback there? Second, which quarterback do they want to take in that spot?

Tim Bielik and Lance Reisland join Dan Labbe on Friday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast to look at the top two options in this year’s quarterback class, Miami’s Cam Ward and Colorado’s Shedeur Sanders.

They go through both players and toss out one thing they like and one thing they don’t like about each player, trying to build a collective scouting report on each player.

They also discuss some of the other quarterbacks they like in this class and what options the Browns could consider if they don’t pick a quarterback with the second pick.

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How Bubba Ventrone’s Senior Bowl role gives Browns edge in 2025 draft prep

Thu, 30 Jan 2025 02:33:53 -0000

The Browns are digging into the 2025 NFL Draft class and their special teams coordinator, Bubba Ventrone, is getting an up-close look at prospects this week at the Senior Bowl by serving as head coach of the American Team.

What sort of advantage does it give the Browns that Ventrone is coaching this group and spending so much time around some of these players?

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss Ventrone’s role and what the Browns can glean from him doing it on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They also talk about quarterbacks Jalen Milroe, Jaxson Dart and Dillon Gabriel and what Mary Kay is seeing in Mobile as she watches practice and participates in interviews with them.

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Should Myles Garrett ask the Browns for a fully guaranteed deal?

Wed, 29 Jan 2025 01:29:00 -0000

Browns GM Andrew Berry said at the Senior Bowl on Tuesday that he wasn’t going to trade edge rusher Myles Garrett and is open to an extension of the team’s star edge rusher.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about Garrett’s future in Cleveland and if he could become the first non-quarterback to get a fully guaranteed deal and the case he could make to be that guy.

They also discuss what the pitch to Garrett could have been to keep him happy and how the Browns will solve their quarterback problem to get Garrett to the Super Bowl.

Lastly, they talk about Deion Sanders and why Berry was confident that he would be fine with his son, Shedeur, playing in Cleveland.

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Would the Browns actually consider drafting Jalen Milroe?

Tue, 28 Jan 2025 02:19:35 -0000

It was a very Jalen Milroe day in NFL Draft discourse. The former Alabama quarterback earned a comparison to Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson and he spoke at the Senior Bowl in Mobile.

Mary Kay Cabot is in Mobile and she checked in with Dan Labbe on Monday night to talk Milroe and the Browns and what she learned on her first day at the draft’s first big event.

Mary Kay and Dan discuss Milroe and if the Browns or another team will fall enough in love with him to do all the necessary things to make him their quarterback on Monday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They also talk about former Colorado quarterback Shedeur Sanders, who was at East-West Shrine Game practices this weekend, and if the Browns would be willing to take on him and his dad, Deion.

They wrap up by talking about Senior Bowl Executive Director Jim Nagy’s comments about this year’s quarterback class.

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How much of Browns' draft plans hinge on solving QB problem?

Fri, 24 Jan 2025 19:57:00 -0000

NFL Draft season is about to kick into high gear and the Browns, who currently hold the No. 2 overall pick, will be front and center throughout the process as they try to solve their quarterback problem.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe spent their last Orange and Brown Talk podcast of the week musing about the draft and what the Browns will do at quarterback.

Is it a sure thing they’ll take a quarterback at No. 2 overall? What if they take Travis Hunter, like many mock drafts have them doing? What will free agency tell us about their plans?

They discuss it all in their latest podcast.

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What does Kevin Stefanski’s play-calling decision mean for the Browns?

Thu, 23 Jan 2025 20:22:59 -0000

The Browns introduced new offensive coordinator Tommy Rees on Thursday, but head coach Kevin Stefanski started the day by announcing he was taking back play-calling after giving it up midway through last season.

Is taking it back the right move for Stefanski or should he let his new, young offensive coordinator handle the duties?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss Stefanski’s decision to start Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Then they move onto Rees' introductory press conference and get into why they think Stefanski made this move and what this means for the Browns at the quarterback position, especially as it pertains to the draft.

They also talk a little about what’s leaking out regarding the draft and what they do and don’t believe.

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3 things we want to see from the Browns offense in 2025

Tue, 21 Jan 2025 21:33:36 -0000

The Browns will introduce new offensive coordinator Tommy Rees in a press conference on Wednesday. Rees was promoted from tight ends coach after Ken Dorsey was fired following a 3-14 season.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about the Browns offense on the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast and talk about the three things they hope to see from the offense in 2025 with Rees and head coach Kevin Stefanski at the helm.

They get into the run game and improving the team’s rushing attack as well as figuring out how to cut down on turnovers, all while trying to create more explosive plays.

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Will Deion Sanders influence the Browns' 2025 quarterback decision? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 20 Jan 2025 22:22:13 -0000

The Browns have decisions to make at quarterback this offseason and the biggest one is how they will approach the position in the 2025 NFL Draft.

With the No. 2 overall pick, they will have a shot at one of the Top 2 of Cam Ward and Shedeur Sanders or they can maneuver around and find another quarterback. Is there a quarterback in this draft that can win in the NFL?

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about the top quarterbacks in the draft and what the Browns should do.

They also talk about Sanders and how Deion Sanders' presence might impact the Browns' decision-making and other topics, including the most memorable quarterbacks the Browns have had since 1999.

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Diving deep into Browns offseason roster questions on defense

Fri, 17 Jan 2025 23:48:16 -0000

The Browns defense and kicking game in 2024 didn’t reach the level they achieved the previous season.

In this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe delve into pressing questions surrounding the Browns defense as they head into the offseason.

The conversation begins with concerns about the kicking situation, particularly focusing on Dustin Hopkins and the need for a solid plan B.

The discussion then shifts to the defensive side, highlighting the uncertainty surrounding Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah’s future and the implications for the linebacker position (6:49).

The hosts also explore Myles Garrett’s contract situation and the importance of ensuring he remains a key part of the team moving forward. (12:37)

Finally, they address the ongoing challenge of finding a complementary edge rusher to support Garrett’s efforts on the defensive line (24:31).

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Diving deep into Browns offseason roster questions on offense

Thu, 16 Jan 2025 22:24:19 -0000

The Browns enter an offseason filled with questions on both sides of the football, ranging from the obvious quarterback situation to overall roster depth concerns.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe launch a two-podcast series on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast examining the roster questions facing the Browns as they aim to rebound from a 3-14 season.

They discuss the team’s approach to quarterback and potential moves at that position and others through free agency and the draft.

They also discuss the state of the offensive line and look at the team’s pass-catchers to determine what the future is at wide receiver and tight end.

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Why the Browns chose Tommy Rees as new offensive coordinator

Tue, 14 Jan 2025 23:43:21 -0000

The Browns have promoted Tommy Rees from tight ends coach to offensive coordinator. At age 32, he takes over one of the most important roles on the coaching staff as the Browns look to reset their quarterback room.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk through the decision to promote Rees and why head coach Kevin Stefanski decided to go in this direction.

What do they expect from Rees in this new job? What was it about Rees that made him so intriguing to Stefanski? What does this mean for the future of the quarterback position?

They get into all of it on the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

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Should the Browns Draft a QB with the No. 2 Pick? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 13 Jan 2025 22:13:22 -0000

Let’s be honest: everyone has quarterbacks on the brain when it comes to the Browns and this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast is no different.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start the podcast, however, by talking offensive coordinator candidates and how this search could shake out.

Then they dive into the Deshaun Watson situation and if there’s anything to the idea that the Browns could try and get some of the guaranteed money back if his re-rupture of his Achilles occurred while doing something he shouldn’t have been doing.

There’s a draft, too, by the way, and the Browns have the No. 2 pick. Is there a quarterback worth taking No. 2 overall in this draft and do the Browns have to take a quarterback?

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Deshaun Watson’s Achilles re-rupture: What it means for the Browns

Fri, 10 Jan 2025 22:14:44 -0000

Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson re-ruptured his Achilles and underwent a second surgery on Thursday to repair it, all but taking him out of the quarterback picture for the Browns in 2025.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Friday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the latest developments with Watson and how this might change things for the Browns, if it changes anything at all.

Does this create a sense of urgency in the draft for the Browns? Will they be more aggressive in going after a veteran option? What’s next for Watson?

Then they talk about the Browns hosting a London game in 2025 by looking back at Mary Kay’s trip there to cover the team in 2017 and discussing where they would like to go cover a Browns game.

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What Browns' OC interviews reveal about Kevin Stefanski’s priorities

Thu, 09 Jan 2025 21:55:22 -0000

The Browns search for a new offensive coordinator is fully underway, starting with their interview of their tight ends coach, Tommy Rees, and now plans to interview both Darrell Bevell and Charles London.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about the coordinator search in the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, trying to decipher what the early names teach us about what head coach Kevin Stefanski is looking for in a replacement for Ken Dorsey.

First, they talk about the hire of offensive line coach Mike Bloomgren and what it tells us that they were able to find Andy Dickerson’s replacement so quickly.

They also discuss Catherine Hickman interviewing for the Titans GM job.

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How will the Browns quarterback room look in 2025? Hey, Mary Kay!

Wed, 08 Jan 2025 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns quarterback room was headed for change already this season, but Deshaun Watson’s setback, which GM Andrew Berry announced on Monday, only reinforces the idea that the room will look completely different in 2025.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talk quarterbacks on today’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They start by answering a question about how the Browns just now found out about Watson’s setback before they discuss all the ways the Browns could decide to attack the position this offseason.

They also talk about Berry’s draft history and whether he can be trusted to get this draft right.

They even get into Baker Mayfield leading Tampa Bay to the playoffs and why he was able to do it.

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Deshaun Watson had a setback, so what’s next for the Browns?

Mon, 06 Jan 2025 23:05:37 -0000

Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson suffered a setback in his recovery from his ruptured Achilles and, regardless of what the team’s plans were for him before this, it feels like this is a significant moment in his future with the team.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Monday’s edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Watson’s future following this revelation from GM Andrew Berry’s end-of-season press conference. Does this change anything for the Browns moving forward? What will happen with Watson now?

Then they get into what Berry said about running back Nick Chubb and if it’s possible he might not be back next season. Is there a price and a role for him that could keep him in a Browns uniform?

Lastly, they talk Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah and the mystery surrounding his status for next season.

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What are the Browns looking for in a new offensive coordinator and quarterback?

Sun, 05 Jan 2025 23:25:33 -0000

The Browns are seeking a new identity and the pieces are in place for them to find it after two big events on Sunday.

First, they fired offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey, opening the door for them to return to a familiar identity while also trying to find someone who can help them remake their offense and quarterback room this offseason.

The other development is they landed the No. 2 pick in the draft after the Patriots beat the Bills on Sunday. This sets up the opportunity to either pick a quarterback or take someone who can help their quarterback succeed.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recap the entire day in Berea on the latest edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about potentially going back to a familiar scheme and if they should before they talk about the approach at quarterback and if they have to take one at No. 2.

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Why the decision to start Bailey Zappe + Browns at Ravens preview and picks

Fri, 03 Jan 2025 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns will start Bailey Zappe on Saturday afternoon against the Ravens in the final game of the season. Dorian Thompson-Robinson is also expected to play in the game.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about the Browns' decision to start Zappe and what they expect from him.

They also talk about the jostling for draft position and where the Browns stand with one game left.

Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. Are the Ravens any different from the first time these teams played? What can the Browns do to try slowing down Lamar Jackson?

Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to wrap up the podcast by making their picks for Sunday.

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Who's starting at quarterback + breaking down Dorian Thompson-Robinson vs. the Dolphins

Wed, 01 Jan 2025 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns could start either Dorian Thompson-Robinson or Bailey Zappe on Saturday against the Ravens, and head coach Kevin Stefanski left the door open to play both in the team's season finale at M&T Bank Stadium.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about the quarterback decision and if it matters. Then they talk about wide receiver Cedric Tillman going on injured reserve and how it adds another layer of difficulty to building the roster for next season.

They even try to name all 39 quarterbacks who have started for the Browns since 1999.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to look back at the film from Sunday's loss to the Dolphins.

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Will Deshaun Watson play for the Browns again? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 31 Dec 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns restructured Deshaun Watson’s contract once again on Friday, opening up a future exit strategy from the $230 million fully guaranteed contract they gave him in 2022. It also means he’s sticking around for at least another season.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discussed the potential of Watson playing for the Browns on the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They discuss why it’s not a crazy thought to think that he couldn’t end up back on the field in a Browns uniform and not just disappear quietly into the night.

They also talk about the Browns draft plans and the state of the roster as the season comes to a close.

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The Browns could be set up in the draft, so how should they approach it? Postgame podcast

Mon, 30 Dec 2024 05:35:35 -0000

The Browns lost their home finale of the 2024 season on Sunday, bowing to the Miami Dolphins, 20-3, at Huntington Bank Field.

The Browns fell to 3-13 and will wrap up their 2024 campaign next Sunday in Baltimore.

That means the Browns draft position improved and they could find themselves in a position to draft a new quarterback.

In this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down dig into how the Browns should approach things if they do end up landing a Top 3 pick in the draft.

Is it quarterback or bust? Is there a reason to pass on a quarterback if one is available? What does it mean that they have stumbled into a potential franchise-altering pick all of a sudden?

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Joel Bitonio’s future + Browns vs. Dolphins preview, scouting report and picks

Fri, 27 Dec 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns return home for their final home game of the season, hosting the Miami Dolphins, who might be fighting for their playoff lives when they arrive — depending on what happens on Saturday.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about left guard Joel Bitonio’s comments about his future and what he’s considering as he thinks about retiring or coming back after this season.

Then they talk about the Dolphins and what they’re bringing to Cleveland on Sunday.

Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. Is Miami’s offense as dangerous as it was a year ago? How does the Browns' defense match up? What makes Miami’s defense successful? Lance also makes his pick for the game.

Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to wrap up the podcast by making their picks for Sunday.

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Christmas favorites and hot takes + a look back at Browns film vs. the Bengals

Wed, 25 Dec 2024 05:01:00 -0000

It’s a Christmas Day edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, so we’re putting some of the Browns talk aside and we’re talking Christmas.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the podcast by going over some of their favorite Christmas things. They talk about their favorite movies, favorite songs, favorite tradition, favorite aesthetic and their Christmas hot takes.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to look back at what he saw on the film when he studied the Browns' 24-6 loss to the Bengals. Then Lance and Dan do a draft of Christmas movies, coming up with their favorites and must watch movies.

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Do the Browns need a complete teardown? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 24 Dec 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns came into this season with high expectations and, instead, are going to leave it with a high draft pick. It has raised questions about the state of the roster and what they need to do this offseason to fix everything that went wrong.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe take the topic head-on during Tuesday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They start by talking about Dorian Thompson-Robinson and why Kevin Stefanski is starting him again. Then they dive into how they would approach this offseason.

Is tanking the right move? Do they need a complete teardown of the roster to build it back up? Can they be title contenders next season? Is a soft reset more appropriate? They discuss it all.

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Would fans hold a grudge against Myles Garrett if he left? Postgame podcast

Mon, 23 Dec 2024 05:29:05 -0000

The Browns lost to the Bengals on Sunday, 24-6, but Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe are more focused on what pass rusher Myles Garrett had to say on Friday and what he added to those comments on Sunday, even after he passed the 100 career sack mark.

That’s where they start their postgame Orange and Brown Talk postgame podcast. Are they surprised fans are siding more with Garrett after he voiced his displeasure? What does it say about the approval rating of the organization that they are so readily siding with Garrett?

What does that all mean as far as the potential of postseason changes and if it could spur change?

They also spend a little time on the loss, including the play of quarterback Dorian Thompson-Robinson.

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Browns at Bengals preview podcast: Storylines, scouting report and our picks

Fri, 20 Dec 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns are on to Cincinnati this week, traveling south to face the Bengals for the second time this season. Cincinnati is clinging to faint playoff hopes and the Browns hope to dash them with an upset on Sunday.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start our preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the storylines they’re looking at as the 3-11 Browns try to play spoiler in another AFC North matchup.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. What is allowing Joe Burrow to have so much success this season? How can the Browns slow the Bengals passing attack? What about that shaky Bengals defense? Lance also makes his pick for the game.

Finally, Ashley joins Mary Kay and Dan to wrap up the podcast with their picks for Sunday.

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Should the Browns pursue Kirk Cousins this offseason?

Thu, 19 Dec 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns will be in the quarterback market this offseason and we’re still waiting for the full market to take shape, but one domino fell this week when Atlanta benched Kirk Cousins in favor of rookie Michael Penix Jr.

Cousins has a history with Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski, so should there be at least some interest in facilitating a reunion between the two?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Dorian Thompson-Robinson taking over as Browns starter but then they pivot to Cousins.

Is Cousins done or can the Browns revive him? Is he too old for them to look at as a starter for next season? What factors do they need to consider on their roster next year and beyond?

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What do we expect from Browns QB Dorian Thompson-Robinson? + Lance Reisland breaks down the Chiefs film

Wed, 18 Dec 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns are making the switch to quarterback Dorian Thompson-Robinson, benching Jameis Winston after he threw three more interceptions on Sunday in a loss to the Chiefs.

Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock start Wednesday’s edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the decision to switch to Thompson-Robinson and what to expect from the second-year signal caller as he takes over for Winston.

Then Lance Reisland joins the pod to talk about the switch and what he saw when he watched the film of the loss to the Chiefs.

Lance and Dan talk about the play of Jerry Jeudy, the run game, the defense and more.

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Is there a case for the Browns to stick with Jameis Winston? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 17 Dec 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns and head coach Kevin Stefanski will make a quarterback decision later this week, either sticking with Jameis Winston or replacing him with Dorian Thompson-Robinson or Bailey Zappe.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the decision and whether there’s a legitimate case for sticking with Winston as the starter after he threw three more interceptions on Sunday.

They also get into the future of Nick Chubb after he suffered another season-ending injury against the Chiefs and if the Browns should bring him back.

And they talk about Mary Kay’s report over the weekend that Deshaun Watson will be back with the Browns next season.

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Will the Browns turn to Dorian Thompson-Robinson next week? Postgame podcast

Mon, 16 Dec 2024 03:21:42 -0000

The Browns fell to 3-11 on Sunday with their 21-7 loss to the Chiefs, who are now 13-1 and still hold the No. 1 playoff seed in the AFC.

Now the Browns face a decision at quarterback after head coach Kevin Stefanski benched Jameis Winston in favor of Dorian Thompson-Robinson in the fourth quarter.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down all the machinations of a potential quarterback change in their postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They also discuss another season-ending injury for running back Nick Chubb and where they go from here with him and do a vibe check after a brutal football game all around on Sunday.

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Will the Browns really choose stability + Browns vs. Chiefs preview and picks

Fri, 13 Dec 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns are out of the playoff chase but they can still play spoiler the rest of the way, something they will try to do Sunday against the Chiefs, who come to Huntington Bank Field with a 12-1 record and a two-game lead over the Bills for the No. 1 seed in the AFC.

First, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe react to Browns owner Jimmy Haslam offering his support to GM Andrew Berry and head coach Kevin Stefanski. Could that change between now and the end of the season? Will there be other changes?

They they transition into their normal preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the storylines they’re looking at as the 3-10 Browns try to upset the two-time defending Super Bowl champions.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. How are the Chiefs winning all these close games? How good is the Chiefs defense? Outside of Patrick Mahomes, what is the most worrisome thing about their offense? Lance also makes his pick for the game.

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What if the Browns had drafted Patrick Mahomes? Orange and Brown Talk

Thu, 12 Dec 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns are hosting Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs on Sunday at Huntington Bank Field and it’s a reminder about the 2017 draft.

The Browns, of course, picked Myles Garrett No. 1 overall and he’s on his way to the Hall of Fame but what if they had drafted Mahomes?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the Thursday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the vibes around the team before they pivot to Mahomes.

Of all the teams that passed on Mahomes, the Browns came out the best as far as the player they picked, but what if they had picked him. Would he still become the player we know now?

What lesson can the Browns learn from that draft and the Chiefs' pursuit of Mahomes and what the Browns didn’t see that year that Kansas City did.

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Does Deshaun Watson have a future with the Browns? + Lance Reisland breaks down Steelers film

Wed, 11 Dec 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns are preparing to host the Kansas City Chiefs on Sunday and it has Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe thinking about all kinds of things.

They get into all of it on the Wednesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, starting with what they expect from Jameis Winston the rest of the way as the Browns starter. Then Ashley makes the case for why it matters if Taylor Swift will be in attendance at Huntington Bank Field or not on Sunday before Mary Kay and Dan talk about Deshaun Watson's rehab and his future with the Browns, if there even is one.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to break down what he saw on the tape from the Browns 27-14 loss to the Steelers on Sunday in Pittsburgh before he and Dan talk about their favorite pizza places in the Akron and Cleveland areas.

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Should the Browns turn things over to Dorian Thompson-Robinson? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 10 Dec 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns were officially eliminated from the playoffs on Sunday in their 27-14 loss to the Steelers and it made some wonder if they might decide to start looking at some younger players, including backup quarterback Dorian Thompson-Robinson.

That’s where Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start the Tuesday Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, featuring questions from our Football Insider subscribers.

Should the Browns hand things over to Thompson-Robinson and, if not, why? Are Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry safe and could things change over the last month of the season? Would Baker Mayfield have been able to be the player he is in Tampa Bay if he stayed with the Browns?

They cover all that ground in the latest edition of the podcast.

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Why Jameis Winston is still the right QB for the Browns: Postgame podcast

Mon, 09 Dec 2024 05:14:58 -0000

Browns quarterback Jameis Winston threw two more interceptions in Sunday’s loss to the Steelers and that’s where Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their Orange and Brown Talk postgame podcast.

Should the Browns continue with Winston the rest of the season or try to take a look at Dorian Thompson-Robinson or Bailey Zappe? What is the benefit of sticking with Winston for the final four games — or at least next week against Kansas City?

They also talk about kicker Dustin Hopkins, who missed two more field goals on Sunday. Why did the Browns rush an extension on Hopkins? What do they do about Hopkins moving forward?

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Browns at Steelers preview: Storylines, scouting report and our picks

Fri, 06 Dec 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns will try to pull off a rare sweep of the Steelers, heading to Pittsburgh for a rematch after beating the Steelers in Cleveland two Thursdays ago.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the storylines they’re looking at as the 3-9 Browns try to play spoiler in another AFC North matchup.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. Why did the Steelers struggle so much with Myles Garrett? What did we learn about them in that Thursday night game? Just how much of a factor was the weather? Lance also makes his pick for the game.

Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to wrap up the podcast by making their picks for Sunday.

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Are the Browns a good team with a bad record? Hey, Mary Kay!

Thu, 05 Dec 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns are back from Denver and will take on the Steelers on Sunday, but our Football Insider subscribers are thinking big picture on this Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer questions about the quarterback position, the state of the roster and more.

They start by getting into finding the right fit at quarterback, whether that’s someone who fits what Kevin Stefanski likes to run more traditionally or if they will bring in a quarterback who requires more of an adjustment.

They also talk about the state of the roster. Are the Browns a bad team or are they a good team with a bad record?

Then they spend time talking about Jameis Winston and his leadership style and why it’s working.

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Did Monday night change our view of Jameis Winston’s future with the Browns? Postgame podcast

Tue, 03 Dec 2024 09:55:07 -0000

It was the full Jameis Winston experience once again in a Browns loss to the Broncos on Monday Night Football. Winston set a team record and threw for a career-high 496 yards but also threw three interceptions, including two pick-sixes.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Winston and if Monday’s game should pump the brakes on Winston’s future with Cleveland beyond this season.

How do you balance the yardage with the turnovers? Should the Browns consider looking at Dorian Thompson-Robinson now that their season is essentially over?

They also talk about Jerry Jeudy’s career night and how he’s played over the last month, establishing himself as the team’s top receiver and how the Browns were able to unlock Jeudy.

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Browns at Broncos preview: Storylines, scouting report and our picks for Monday Night Football

Sat, 30 Nov 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns hit the road for a second consecutive prime-time game in front of a national TV audience on Monday Night Football. They play the Broncos in Denver.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the storylines they’re looking at as the 3-8 Browns try to win two in a row for the first time this season against a Broncos team fighting for a wild card spot.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. What makes Denver’s defense so good? Is Bo Nix playing as well as the hype machine is making him out to be right now? Then Lance makes his pick for the game.

Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to wrap up the podcast by making their picks for Thursday night.

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Browns QB Jameis Winston is in the right place at the right time + closer look at the win over Pittsburgh

Thu, 28 Nov 2024 05:01:00 -0000

Browns quarterback Jameis Winston has captured the imagination of the Browns fan base with his play on the field and what he's provided the team off the field. It has been a perfect fit for a team out of playoff contention and well on its way to another disappointing season.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start this Thanksgiving Day edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Winston's presence and why it matters in this moment and what it means for the future.

They also talk about wide receiver Cedric Tillman and the importance of getting him back on the field ASAP to see how he fits with the Browns longterm.

Lance Reisland joins the podcast to break down what he saw on film in the Thursday night win over the Steelers, including how the Browns and right tackle Jack Conklin shut out T.J. Watt, Winston's performance in the game and then he and Dan do a draft of overrated Thanksgiving foods.

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Will Myles Garrett repeat as Defensive Player of the Year: Hey, Mary Kay!

Wed, 27 Nov 2024 05:01:00 -0000

Browns pass rusher Myles Garrett made a big statement against the Steelers on Thursday Night Football and is back in the discussion for NFL Defensive Player of the Year after collecting three sacks in the first half. He now has six in the last three games and is at 10 for the season.

Will he repeat as the league’s top defender? That’s where Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start in a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast featuring questions from our Football Insider subscribers.

They discuss how Hard Knocks will help Garrett and why performing like he did on national TV was important.

Then they get into what the Browns record would be if Jameis Winston had started from Week 1 before answering questions about offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey and special teams coordinator Bubba Ventrone.

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Are we talking enough about Jerry Jeudy? + Juan Thornhill bounces back and the latest on Greg Newsome and George Pickens

Tue, 26 Nov 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns are heading to Denver for Monday Night Football and have a long Thanksgiving week ahead as they prepare to face the Broncos.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the Tuesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about the receiving corps, beginning with Cedric Tillman who opens the week in the concussion protocol and why getting him on the field as much as possible for the final six weeks is important.

They also talk about Jerry Jeudy, who is finding a rhythm with quarterback Jameis Winston and if we’ve spent enough time talking about Jeudy and how well he’s playing.

Then they discuss safety Juan Thornhill and his reaction to the criticism he faced after the New Orleans game and how he responded against the Steelers.

Then they update the fight between cornerback Greg Newsome II and Steelers wide receiver George Pickens after the final play and the fallout from that.

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Is Jameis Winston a real quarterback option for the Browns next year? Postgame podcast

Sat, 23 Nov 2024 00:10:09 -0000

The Browns upset the Steelers on Thursday Night Football at Huntington Bank Field and are riding high after a 24-19 victory.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe go through the individuals who helped the Browns win a dramatic, snowy game on their postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They talk about the performance of quarterback Jameis Winston and whether he could be a longterm option for this team, or at least a realistic option for next season.

They discuss Myles Garrett and if he’s established himself as the favorite for Defensive Player of the Year after a three-sack performance.

Then they get into the play of Nick Chubb, Jack Conklin and the feud between Steelers receiver George Pickens and Browns cornerback Greg Newsome II.

They also spend a little time lamenting the potential death of snow games in Cleveland if a dome gets built.

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Browns vs. Steelers preview: Storylines, scouting report and our picks for Thursday Night Football

Thu, 21 Nov 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns return home this week to host the Pittsburgh Steelers in front of a national TV audience on Thursday Night Football. It’s their first matchup againt the Steelers this season.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the storylines they’re looking at as the 2-8 Browns try to play spoiler against the AFC North-leading Steelers.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. What makes Pittsburgh’s defense so dangerous? How does Russell Wilson look in this offense? Then Lance makes his pick for the game.

Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to wrap up the podcast by making their picks for Thursday night.

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Why Browns pass rusher Myles Garrett seemed annoyed by T.J. Watt’s DPOY reaction

Wed, 20 Nov 2024 05:01:00 -0000

Browns pass rusher Myles Garrett took the opportunity on Tuesday to discuss how he felt about T.J. Watt’s and J.J. Watt’s reaction to his first Defensive Player of the Year award last year. It was interesting he decided to address it, even if it was partially in jest.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about Garrett’s comments and why they think he decided to engage in questions about how he felt about what the Watts said after he won the award.

They also discuss the tackle situation as the Browns are trying to figure out a way to replace Dawand Jones, who went on IR after suffering a season-ending injury on Sunday in New Orleans.

Then they talk about head coach Kevin Stefanski and how he’s handling rumors about his future and his job security.

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Could Thursday night prompt changes for the Browns? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 19 Nov 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns host the Steelers on Thursday Night Football and we’ve seen what the Steelers can do to a Browns team that’s reeling.

Would a poor performance on Thursday, coupled with a stadium full of Steelers fans, prompt Jimmy Haslam to make a rash decision on Friday?

That’s one of the questions Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss during Tuesday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They also discuss whether head coach Kevin Stefanski or GM Andrew Berry deserves more blame for what has happened this season.

Then they get into whether Dorian Thompson-Robinson should be playing instead of Jameis Winston and if the Browns could work out a deal to make sure Nick Chubb is back next season.

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Did Sunday’s loss move the Browns closer to big changes? Postgame podcast

Mon, 18 Nov 2024 04:26:08 -0000

The Browns lost for the seventh time in the last eight games and fell to 2-8 on the season after an embarrassing defeat at the hands of the Saints.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed the state of the team after another loss on their postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They talk about if a loss like this — and if another one on Thursday — is the type of loss that can prompt big changes for an organization and how much longer they can keep with the current approach.

They also talk about the play of Jameis Winston and why he’s the right quarterback to lead this team through the remainder of the season.

Lastly, they look at left tackle now that Dawand Jones is out for the year and what the Browns will do to protect Winston’s blindside.

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Browns at Saints preview: Storylines, scouting report and our picks for Sunday

Fri, 15 Nov 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns come off their bye week and hit the road for the first time in a month, traveling to New Orleans to take on the Saints. It’s a homecoming of sorts for Jameis Winston, who spent four years with the Saints before signing with the Browns.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our Friday Browns preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the storylines they’re looking at as the 2-7 Browns try to start the second half of their season with a win over the 3-7 Saints.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. What problems does Saints offensive coordinator Klint Kubiak’s scheme present? How vulnerable is the Saints defense? Then Lance makes his pick for the game.

Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to wrap up the podcast by making their picks for Sunday.

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What went wrong with Browns QB Deshaun Watson this season + Jedrick Wills, Jameis Winston and more

Thu, 14 Nov 2024 05:01:00 -0000

Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson‘s season is over and his time with the team could be over, too. What did cleveland.com‘s film expert Lance Reisland see when he watched all of Watson’s snaps?

Lance joined the Orange and Brown Talk podcast on Thursday to go through what he saw when he watched Watson and why it didn’t work. How much was scheme? How much was the talent around him? How much was just him not being the player he was?

Before Lance joined the podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed the news of the day, going through Kevin Stefanski‘s response to Jedrick Wills Jr.’s comments, Jameis Winston returning to New Orleans and Jordan Hicks' comments about Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah.

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What is Ken Dorsey’s future with the Browns? Hey, Mary Kay!

Wed, 13 Nov 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns are once again facing changes this offseason after getting off to a 2-7 start, raising questions about the future of the organization across the board.

One of the people who could come under fire is offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey, who was brought here to help revive Deshaun Watson‘s career but didn’t take over play-calling until after Watson was lost for the season.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer questions from our Football Insider subscribers on Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, starting with Dorsey‘s future and what factors will play into whether he’s here beyond this season or not.

They also talk about the future at quarterback and how they will approach the position, the futures of head coach Kevin Stefanski and GM Andrew Berry and how Mike Vrabel and Paul DePodesta factor into the organization’s decision-making.

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Where do the Browns and Jedrick Wills Jr. go from here and what does it say about the state of the team?

Tue, 12 Nov 2024 05:01:00 -0000

Browns left tackle Jedrick Wills Jr. outlined on Monday the events that led to him losing his job to Dawand Jones and said he made a “business decision” prior to the Browns' win over the Ravens.

There were already questions about Wills' future here, but his comments only put more of a spotlight on what it looks like for GM Andrew Berry’s first draft pick.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed Wills' comments on Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast and what it means for Wills in the longterm, either here or elsewhere.

They also talk about what the status of Wills means for the Browns moving forward and what it says about Berry and his future as the person responsible for picking this roster — if he is the person picking the roster.

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Did Andrew Berry offer any clues about Browns Deshaun Watson plan? + Lance Reisland on blown coverages

Thu, 07 Nov 2024 05:01:00 -0000

Browns GM Andrew Berry held his bye week press conference on Sunday and offered few clues as to what the Browns will do this offseason with quarterback Deshaun Watson. That doesn't mean that Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe weren't going to go sleuthing through what he said.

Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast starts with the three of them discussing what Berry said about his quarterback and Watson's future with the team and if he gave any indication about what it could look either keeping Watson or moving on from him.

Then they talk about what Berry said about Kevin Stefanski and the tackle situation.

Lance Reisland joins the pod in the second half to talk about what went wrong on the blown coverages against the Chargers, why Jameis Winston struggled and why the run game can't get going before he asks his question of the week and they do an impromptu Halloween candy draft.

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The state of the Browns roster after the trade deadline: Where do they go from here?

Wed, 06 Nov 2024 05:01:00 -0000

A quiet trade deadline passed for the Browns on Tuesday, featuring the trading away of Za'Darius Smith and the release of Quinton Jefferson. Now it's on to the final eight weeks of the season and playing out the remainder of the year before they have to make difficult decisions.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe got together shortly after the expiration of the deadline on Tuesday and talked about the move to deal Smith and if it was the right thing to do and if the Browns got enough.

Then they went deeper on the state of the roster and what comes next. There's some sort of reset coming, but how long of a detour will the Browns need to take before they can think about trying to win a championship again? What will they do at the quarterback position? Could they move some of their stars in the offseason?

They also look around the AFC North at what the other teams did as they try to push to make the postseason.

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Does Browns coach Kevin Stefanski have to win a certain number of games to save his job? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 05 Nov 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns season is essentially over after they lost to the Chargers to drop to 2-7 and eyes are fully on the future.

It‘s no surprise our Football Insider text subscribers want to know what’s next for the Browns and if all the current pieces will remain in place moving forward or if there could be big changes on the horizon.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer questions from subscribers about the futures of head coach Kevin Stefanski and GM Andrew Berry and what factors will go into determining them as the rest of this season plays out on Tuesday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They also talk about the future of the quarterback position, how it impacts all the other decisions they have to make and they take a look at one very big decision the Browns made on Monday.

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Should the Browns take trade calls on Myles Garrett? Postgame podcast

Mon, 04 Nov 2024 03:02:40 -0000

The Browns lost to the Chargers, 27-10, on Sunday falling to 2-7 on the season, their season essentially over just nine weeks into it. It’s also right before the trade deadline, which his Tuesday at 4 p.m.

We know edge rusher Za’Darius Smith could be on the move, but how deep could this go? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their postgame Orange and Brown Talk podcast by looking forward to the trade deadline.

They start with the big question: Should the Browns at least take calls on Myles Garrett to see what offers they would get? They kick around the idea before turning their attention to more realistic outcomes, like the potential move to trade Smith and others.

Then they talk about the loss to the Chargers and what it means. Did it actually teach us anything new? What happened with the defense? What about Jameis Winston?

Then they wrap up the podcast by talking Denzel Ward’s performance.

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Browns vs. Chargers preview: Storylines, scouting report and our picks for Sunday: Preview podcast

Fri, 01 Nov 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns continue their two-game homestand on Sunday at Huntington Bank Field when they host the Chargers. Jameis Winston will make his second consecutive start and Ken Dorsey will call plays for the second week in a row.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our Friday Browns preview edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the storylines they’re looking at as the Browns try to win their second game in a row after beating the Ravens last week..

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. How has Jim Harbaugh changed things for the Chargers? What does LA do well? Then Lance makes his pick.

Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to wrap up the podcast by making their picks for the game.

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Could Jameis Winston play his way into the Browns future quarterback discussion?

Thu, 31 Oct 2024 04:01:00 -0000

We know the Browns will be in a position this offseason trying to figure out the future at the quarterback position. They’ll have to decide what to do with Deshaun Watson and who Dorian Thompson-Robinson is longterm.

What about Jameis Winston?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe spend time on Wednesday‘s Orange and Brown Talk podcast discussing Winston and what could happen if he’s able to take advantage of this starting opportunity after Watson’s season-ending injury.

Could he realistically play his way into the discussion at the position beyond this year or will the Browns have to find a different way to address the position?

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Talking Browns stadiums, sandwiches, haunted houses and film study

Wed, 30 Oct 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns are 2-6 and on Tuesday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast we entertained the idea of them making the playoffs.

Wednesday, we got even weirder.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the Wednesday edition of their podcast by talking about a sandwich. Maybe they were a little hungry.

Then they do some stadium talk after cleveland.com was anonymously sent renderings of a domed stadium on the site of Burke Lakefront Airport as part of a study commisioned by Destination Cleveland.

They wrap up the opening segment by talking Haunted Houses and accidents while walking.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to go over what he saw on the film from Sunday’s Browns win over the Ravens and asks his random question of the week.

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Could the Browns really make the playoffs? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 29 Oct 2024 04:01:00 -0000

Wait ... the Browns are really talking about the playoffs? Safety Juan Thornhill was on Monday, the day after the Browns won their second game of the season by beating the Ravens, 29-24.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe begin Tuesday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the reality, or lack of reality, when it comes to the Browns postseason dreams at 2-6.

They also talk about whether the Browns should remain sellers after winning their second game.

Then they get into quarterback talk. Should the Browns have turned to Jameis Winston sooner? Would there record be better if they had?

They also talk about ways to honor Jim Donovan.

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What does Sunday’s performance tell us about the Browns quarterback future? Postgame podcast

Mon, 28 Oct 2024 03:22:21 -0000

The Browns entertained their fans Sunday with a surprising 29-24 win over the Baltimore Ravens at Huntington Bank Field.

The game marked the debut of Jameis Winston as the Browns’ starting quarterback, in place of Deshaun Watson, who is out for the season after Achilles tendon surgery Friday. Winston threw a 38-yard touchdown pass to Cedric Tillman with 59 seconds left for the final margin as the Browns (2-6) ended a losing streak at five.

Winston finished the day 27 of 41 passing for 334 yards. It was his first start since Sept. 25, 2022, for New Orleans.

So what does Winston‘s performance mean for the Browns’ future at quarterback? What does it mean for Deshaun Watson? Was there more to this performance by the offense than just the quarterback change?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about what they saw Sunday in this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They talk Winston and then they talk about Denzel Ward suffering his sixth known concussion.

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Browns vs. Ravens preview: Storylines, scouting report and our picks for Sunday: Preview podcast

Fri, 25 Oct 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns will have a new quarterback and a new play-caller when they host the Ravens on Sunday at Huntington Bank Field. Jameis Winston takes over for Deshaun Watson, who is out for the season, and Ken Dorsey will call plays instead of Kevin Stefanski, who handed over the duties this week.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. What's working so well for the Ravens offense? Are they as vulnerable in the passing game as the numbers say? Then Lance makes his pick.

Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to wrap up the podcast by making their picks for the game.

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Why would Browns coach Kevin Stefanski give up play-calling?

Thu, 24 Oct 2024 04:01:00 -0000

Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski surprised everyone on Wednesday when he announced he is handing play-calling duties over to offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Stefanski’s decision to hand over play-calling?

Why is he making this move right as Jameis Winston takes over as the starting quarterback? Is this something he should have done earlier? Is there more at play here than just him giving up play-calling?

Then they talk more about Winston and what they’re expecting from him as he takes over as a starter for the first time since he was with New Orleans.

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The case for the Browns starting Jameis Winston + breaking down Sunday's loss to the Bengals

Wed, 23 Oct 2024 00:43:18 -0000

The Browns begin life after Deshaun Watson on Sunday when they face the Ravens, at least for the rest of this season. Watson was lost for the year against the Bengals.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Wednesday‘s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by looking ahead to the week and the things they‘re watching and thinking about as they head into the Browns’ second AFC North contest.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to look back at the film from Sunday’s loss to Cincinnati and what went wrong for the Browns as they lost their fifth game in a row.

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What’s next for the Browns and Deshaun Watson? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 22 Oct 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns are once again facing questions about their future at quarterback after Deshaun Watson went down with a season-ending injury in a loss to the Bengals on Sunday. The injury triggers a lot of questions about what’s next for the Browns and their quarterback.

That’s where Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start in the latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Mary Kay and Dan answer questions from Football Insider subscribers about Watson’s future, the Browns future, who could be in danger within the organization and how the Browns will approach this situation as Watson tries to come back from a serious injury.

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Was Sunday the last time we’ll see Deshaun Watson in a Browns uniform? Postgame Podcast

Mon, 21 Oct 2024 02:30:26 -0000

Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson‘s season is likely over after a serious Achilles injury suffered during Sunday’s 21-14 loss to the Bengals.

In this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Dan Labbe and Ashley Bastock get into the fallout from Watson’s injury and where do the Browns go from here?

Will Watson ever wear a Browns uniform again? What will the team do at the quarterback position for the remainder of this season and how will they address the position for the longterm?

They also spend time on Browns players taking umbrage with how fans reacted after Watson went down and as he was being carted off the field.

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Browns vs. Bengals preview: Storylines, scouting report and our picks for Sunday: Preview podcast

Fri, 18 Oct 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns finally return home after three straight road games and they will play their first AFC North game of the season against the Bengals on Sunday at Huntington Bank Field.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. Why is Joe Burrow having so much success? Is the Bengals defense as bad as the numbers show? Then Lance makes his pick.

Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to wrap up the podcast by making their picks for the game.

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Who will step up for the Browns now that Amari Cooper is gone?

Thu, 17 Oct 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns' decision to trade wide receiver Amari Cooper on Tuesday means the spotlight falls to the receivers who were playing behind Cooper, specifically Jerry Jeudy, who the Browns acquired in the offseason.

Who will take on the burden of being the No. 1 receiver for the Browns and how will they handle it? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the fallout of the Cooper trade one day later on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They also talk about the return of running back Nick Chubb and why the timing of Chubb’s return is perfect for a team that needs a vibes boost.

They wrap up by discussing NFL comissioner Roger Goodell saying the league is still investigating the latest claim against Deshaun Watson, even after the case was settled.

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Browns trade Amari Cooper: Emergency podcast

Wed, 16 Oct 2024 01:05:51 -0000

The Browns traded wide receiver Amari Cooper to the Bills on Tuesday in exchange for a third and seventh-round pick. The Browns also included a sixth-round pick.

Is this the start of a firesale? Is it just a one-off? What’s next?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dive into the trade on this emergency edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They discuss the trade and get into why Cooper struggled so much this season. They also take a look at the wide receiver room after Cooper and what the Browns might do there.

Lance Reisland joins the show, too, to discuss the Cooper trade and look back on what he saw when he watched the film from the loss to the Eagles.

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Could Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski lose his job over Deshaun Watson decision? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 15 Oct 2024 04:01:00 -0000

Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski reiterated on Monday he’s sticking with Deshaun Watson as his starting quarterback, saying he gives his team the best chance to win.

That, of course, is a hot topic for our Football Insider subscribers on Tuesday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer questions from subscribers about Stefanski’s decision and another rough outing from Watson on Sunday in Philadelphia.

They discuss whether Stefanski’s loyalty to Watson could cost him his job. They also talk about what Stefanski might be thinking with his decision and if Watson can realistically turn his performance around.

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The case for and against benching Deshaun Watson: Browns postgame podcast

Mon, 14 Oct 2024 04:05:36 -0000

Another week brought another Browns loss and more questions about what the Browns should do with quarterback Deshaun Watson.

Head coach Kevin Stefanski is sticking with Watson for at least another week as the Browns return home and open up the AFC North portion of their schedule against the Bengals.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk all things Watson on the Orange and Brown Talk postgame podcast. They make the cases for and against benching Watson.

Can the Browns bench him or is it more complicated than just sitting him down? Is Jameis Winston the answer? Does Stefanski risk losing the locker room if Watson continues struggling?

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Browns at Eagles preview: Storylines, scouting report and our picks for Sunday

Fri, 11 Oct 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns take to the road for the third time in a row, wrapping up their three-game road trip, to take on the Eagles in Philadelphia. The game kicks off at 1 p.m.

The Browns are under siege after losing to the Commanders last week. There are questions about quarterback Deshaun Watson and if the Browns might need to make a change and the defense has struggled.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. What's going on with the Eagles and why are they struggling? How will the Browns deal with the skill the Eagles will throw at them? Then he makes his pick.

Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to wrap up the podcast by making their picks for the game.

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Are the Browns doing the right thing by keeping the status quo on offense?

Thu, 10 Oct 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns are circling the wagons and not making big changes after a disastrous performance in Washington and a matchup with Philadelphia on Sunday.

Deshaun Watson is still the quarterback and Kevin Stefanski is still the play-caller.

Is sticking with the status quo the right move for the Browns? What message are they sending by not making significant changes ahead of a pivotal game to wrap up this three-game road swing?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about the decisions the Browns made — or didn’t make — as well as what Watson had to say when he held his weekly press conference.

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Will Kevin Stefanski give up play-calling, setting up Eagles week and breaking down Commanders film

Wed, 09 Oct 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns will try to salvage their season this week when they head to Philadelphia to take on the Eagles, another team trying to find their identity and build some momentum.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast by setting up the week ahead as the Browns prepare to face the Eagles. Will Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski give up play-calling? Will the Browns figure out their tackling and defensive issues? Could they get some key players back?

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to discuss what he saw from Deshaun Watson, the offensive line and more when he watched the film from Sunday's loss.

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Is Browns coach Kevin Stefanski being forced to play Deshaun Watson? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 08 Oct 2024 04:01:00 -0000

Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski reiterated he is sticking with Deshaun Watson as his quarterback a day after the Browns were embarrassed by the Commanders.

That’s where we start on the Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast on Tuesday. One of our Football Insider subscribers wants to know if the decision to stick with Watson is actually Stefanski’s choice.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe get into all things Watson after Sunday’s loss, addressing that question as well as questions about play-calling and what the Browns shoudl do about Watson.

They also talk about when the Browns should bring back Nick Chubb and more.

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Should the Browns consider benching Deshaun Watson? Postgame podcast

Mon, 07 Oct 2024 03:43:41 -0000

The Browns took it on the chin Sunday in their second game of a three-game road trip, getting blown out by the Washington Commanders, 34-13.

The Browns fell to 1-4, and the Commanders moved to 4-1.

Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson was 15 of 28 for 125 yards passing, and he still has not thrown for 200 yards in a game this season as the Browns offense continued to struggle.

After the game, coach Kevin Stefanski said the Browns are not changing quarterbacks.

In this postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about the quarterback situation, look at what went wrong for the Browns and what they heard in the postgame locker room.

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Browns at Commanders preview: Storylines, scouting report and our picks for Sunday

Fri, 04 Oct 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns take to the road for the second time in a row, continuing their three-game road trip, to take on the Commanders in Washington. The game kicks off at 1 p.m.

The Browns are searching after falling to the Raiders last week and are 1-3 while the Commanders sit atop the NFC East at 3-1, buoyed by rookie quarterback Jayden Daniels.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. How do you slow down Daniels? How can the Browns attack Washington's defense? Then he makes his pick.

Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to wrap up the podcast by making their picks for the game.

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What should we expect from Browns running back Nick Chubb?

Thu, 03 Oct 2024 04:01:00 -0000

Browns running back Nick Chubb returned to practice and now the Browns have 21 days to move him to the active roster as he works back from his knee surgeries.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the Thursday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk by talking all about Chubb. How did he look in the limited time they had to watch him? What are reasonable expectations about when he could return and what his role will be right away?

Then they talk about Davante Adams and what Deshaun Watson had to say about it and why what he said was the right thing to say.

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Should the Browns get in the mix for Davante Adams? + What went wrong in Las Vegas?

Wed, 02 Oct 2024 04:01:00 -0000

Raiders wide receiver Davante Adams wants out of Las Vegas and it makes you wonder if the Browns could put themselves in the mix to acquire the star wide receiver.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the Wednesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking about Mike Hall Jr.’s suspension and when he’ll return to the lineup.

Then they get into the Adams situation and whether GM Andrew Berry should call up the Raiders to see what it would take to get Adams in Cleveland.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to talk about what he saw when he broke down the film from the Browns’ loss to the Raiders.

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How does the Browns start to the season change your expectations: Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 01 Oct 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns’ loss to the Raiders, which dropped them to 1-3 to start the season, has our Orange and Brown Talk podcast listeners full of questions after what is essentially a quarter of the season.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe go through a long list of topics on the Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the podcast.

They start with a question about Amari Cooper and if the Browns would consider trading him, discuss their feelings about Deshaun Watson’s performance and his longterm outlook, talk about who is calling the plays and if it could change and reset expectations for what’s possible this season after this start.

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Where do things stand for the Browns after another bad loss? Postgame podcast

Mon, 30 Sep 2024 05:28:25 -0000

The Browns failed to make the big plays when they needed them most on Sunday, and lost to the Raiders, 20-16, in Las Vegas.

Cleveland.com’s Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down the defeat in this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They start by trying to frame the team’s 1-3 record. Where do they stand and can they still salvage this season?

They also discuss the play of Deshaun Watson. Was this a promising performance for their starting quarterback and can he build on it?

They also talk about the play of the defense and wide receiver Amari Cooper not being available to the media after the game.

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Browns at Raiders preview: Storylines, scouting report and our picks for Sunday

Fri, 27 Sep 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns take to the road for the second time this season, this time to take on the Raiders in Las Vegas. The game kicks off at 4:25 ET.

Both teams enter the game at 1-2 and coming off of home losses. The Browns fell to the Giants last week, 21-15, while the Raiders lost their home opener to the Panthers, 36-22.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. What does Las Vegas do well? How can the Browns attack them? Then he makes his pick.

Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to wrap up the podcast by making their picks for the game.

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Should Browns edge rusher Myles Garrett consider resting as injuries pile up?

Thu, 26 Sep 2024 04:01:00 -0000

Browns edge rusher Myles Garrett is dealing with foot, thigh and Achilles injuries as the Browns prepare to head for Las Vegas on Sunday. Should Garrett play through the injuries or should he take some time to get healthy for a playoff push?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Garrett’s injuries and how he should approach things moving forward.

Then they look at the tackle situation and whether the Browns will finally be healthy this week on the offensive line’s bookends.

They wrap up the podcast by talking about what quarterback Deshaun Watson had to say in his weekly press conference.

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Browns at Raiders storylines and breaking down the film from the Giants loss

Wed, 25 Sep 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns will try to salvage the first month of their season when they travel to Las Vegas on Sunday to take on the Raiders. It’s an opportunity to bounce back from a difficult loss to the Giants and get back to .500 after four games.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by looking at the storylines and things they’re watching this week as the Browns face the Raiders. They discuss the state of the offensive line, the vibes as they head to Vegas and the play of the defense.

Lance Reisland joins the show to look at the film from the loss to the Giants. He breaks down the protection, the play from the defense and more.

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How much blame does Deshaun Watson get for all the hits on Sunday? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 24 Sep 2024 04:01:00 -0000

Browns fans are still stinging from Sunday’s 21-15 loss to the Giants at Huntington Bank Field, a game where the Browns got bullied by a winless team, especially in the game’s first half.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe address the concerns and questions from Football Insider subscribers on Tuesday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They talk about who shoulders the blame for all the hits Deshaun Watson took. They also talk about the struggles right tackle Dawand Jones had on Sunday, whether the Browns made the right adjustments and take a look at the bigger picture with the Browns sitting at 1-2.

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Who’s to blame for the Browns loss to the Giants?Postgame podcast

Mon, 23 Sep 2024 03:16:26 -0000

The Browns are off to a rough start at home, falling to 0-2 at Huntington Bank Field and 1-2 overall with Sunday’s 21-15 loss to the New York Giants.

The Browns are left searching for answers on the offensive line and quarterback Deshaun Watson struggled dealing with the pressure.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break it all down in this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They talk about the protection issues and how Watson dealt with it. They also discuss how much blame Watson deserves in all of the offensive struggles.

Then they talk about the defense and how they played against the Giants, especially in the first half. Why is the defense struggling to play a complete game this season?

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Browns vs. Giants preview: Storylines, scouting report and our picks for Sunday

Fri, 20 Sep 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns return home for the second time this season and will host the Giants on Sunday at 1 p.m. The Browns avoided the dreaded 0-2 start with a win over Jacksonville last week, but the Giants are 0-2 after falling to the Commanders in Washington.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report. What do they do well? How can the Browns attack them? Then he makes his pick.

Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to wrap up the podcast by making their picks for the game.

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How will the Browns navigate their key injuries this week?

Thu, 19 Sep 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns are dealing with injuries as they head into Week 3 against the Giants and that’s where we’re starting on the Thursday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe walk through the injury issues. They start with tight end David Njoku and whether the Browns should play it safe with one of their most important playmakers.

They also discuss Myles Garrett and the foot injury he’s dealing with and how it will impact him longterm. Then it’s on to Denzel Ward and his shoulder injury.

Then they revisit their favorite topic: offensive tackle. Where do things stand as the week gets underway and who might or might not be available on Sunday?

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Browns storylines for Giants week + Jaguars film breakdown

Wed, 18 Sep 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns are 1-1 after their win over the Jaguars and they face the winless Giants on Sunday at Huntington Bank Field.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by looking at the week ahead and the storylines they’re watching as the Browns prepare to welcome Daniel Jones and Co. to their home stadium.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to look back at the Browns’ win in Jacksonville and what he saw on film. They discuss the clock-stopping play and debate what they would have done. Then Lance talks about what he saw from Deshaun Watson and the Browns’ defense on SUnday.

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How much progress did Deshaun Watson make on Sunday? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 17 Sep 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns offense looked much better on Sunday in their 18-13 win over the Jaguars and a big part of it was an improved Deshaun Watson. How much better did Deshaun Watson look and how much progress did he make?

That's where Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start on Tuesday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They discuss what they saw from Watson and how encouraging it was to see him run the offense efficiently.

They also talk about what Watson's ceiling is and if what we saw Sunday is indicative of what he will be longterm with this team.

They also answer questions about the state of the AFC North after two weeks, why the Browns are getting penalized so often and more.

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What did the Browns show us in their win over Jacksonville? Postgame podcast

Mon, 16 Sep 2024 04:46:00 -0000

The Browns won a tough, ugly game against the Jaguars on Sunday on the road to get their first win of the season and even their record at 1-1. It creates an opportunity for everyone to take a deep breath after a tumultuous week.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the Browns’ win on their postgame edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They discuss the performance of Deshaun Watson and how they think he played as well as the big plays the defense made for the Browns. They also talk about Kevin Stefanski and how he coached the game on Sunday.

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Browns at Jaguars preview: Storylines, scouting report and our picks for Sunday

Fri, 13 Sep 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns hit the road for the first time this season and will face the Jaguars in Jacksonville on Sunday at 1 p.m. Both teams are trying to avoid an 0-2 start to their season.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to give a scouting report on Jacksonville. What do they do well? How can the Browns attack them? Then he makes his pick.

Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to wrap up the podcast by making their picks for the game.

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Deshaun Watson addresses allegations + how much blame does he deserve in Week 1?

Thu, 12 Sep 2024 04:01:00 -0000

Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski and starting quarterback Deshaun Watson addressed the latest lawsuit filed against Watson on Wednesday, and it was business as usual for the most part, with the attention on getting ready for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed what they heard from Stefanski and Watson on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They react to what the two had to say and their impressions of how the Browns are approaching it.

Then they talk about how much blame Watson actually deserves for what happened in Week 1. Was it all on Watson’s shoulders or was there enough blame to go around for everyone?

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What’s next for Deshaun Watson and the Browns + breakdown of loss to Dallas

Wed, 11 Sep 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns are once again waiting on an NFL investigation following another lawsuit filed against their quarterback, Deshaun Watson. The NFL is reviewing the lawsuit under the personal conduct policy.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the latest on Watson and if and when the NFL might act regarding this latest lawsuit.

They also look ahead to Sunday’s game against Jacksonville and what they’re watching as a new week gets going.

In the second half of the podcast, Lance Reisland joins the show to break down what he saw on film in the Browns’ loss to the Cowboys.

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What would it take for the Browns to sit Deshaun Watson? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 10 Sep 2024 04:01:00 -0000

We didn't think we'd get questions like this so early in the 2024 season, but here we are. How long will the Browns stick with Deshaun Watson if he plays like he did against Dallas?

That's what one of our Football Insider subscribers wanted to know on Tuesday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They discuss Watson's performance against the Cowboys and if he can turn it around and what happens if he doesn't.

(Note: This was recorded as the most recent lawsuit against Watson was made public.)

They also discuss other issues against the Cowboys, including the performance of the coaching staff and how much blame they should get for the performance.

They talk about the Browns' preseason playing time plan and their approach to OTAs and training camp and what impact that had on Sunday's game against Dallas as well as the front office's approach at tackle.

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What went wrong for the Browns in their blowout loss to the Cowboys?

Mon, 09 Sep 2024 05:28:56 -0000

The Browns opened their 2024 season with a thud Sunday, losing 33-17 to the Dallas Cowboys in a game that wasn’t that close.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and host Dan Labbe start our Orange and Brown Talk preview pod by looking at what went wrong, why DeShaun Watson and the offense couldn’t get going, and what they can do next.

Watson went 24 of 45 passing for 169 yards with 1 TD and 2 INTs for a 51.1 rating.

Dallas quarterback Dak Prescott went 19 of 32 for 179 yards with one TD and no interceptions for an 85.3 rating.

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Browns vs. Cowboys preview: Storylines, scouting report and our picks for Sunday

Fri, 06 Sep 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns open the season against the Cowboys on Sunday at Huntington Bank Field and that means it's time for us to start back up with our game preview podcasts.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start our Orange and Brown Talk preview pod by going through the storylines they're keeping tabs on when the Browns and Cowboys kick off at 4:25 p.m. on Sunday. Who is playing left tackle? What do they expect from Deshaun Watson? How will the Browns contain Micah Parsons?

Then Lance Reisland offers his scouting report on the Cowboys. How do the Browns keep Parsons at bay and attack the Cowboys defense? How should they defend CeeDee Lamb?

Then Mary Kay and Ashley rejoin Dan to make their picks for Sunday's game.

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Will Browns QB Deshaun Watson prove people wrong on Sunday?

Thu, 05 Sep 2024 00:09:25 -0000

It’s opening week and the Browns and Cowboys will face off at Huntington Bank Field on Sunday in a marquee timeslot with most of the NFL world watching.

This means, of course, Deshaun Watson will be front-and-center in the national narrative on Monday, for better or worse. Will he prove people wrong or will he face a mountain of criticism from fans and pundits?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their Wednesday Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing expectations for Watson and what he’ll do against the Cowboys.

Then they look at the left tackle position and what the Browns will do there against the Cowboys.

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Why aren't the Browns getting more love nationally? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 03 Sep 2024 21:34:21 -0000

The Browns aren’t getting much love nationally as they get ready to kick off their season on Sunday againt the Dallas Cowboys. Some people aren’t even picking them to make the playoffs.

Why does it feel like the outside perspective of the team is so different? Why does it seem like people are down on the Browns nationally?

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer that question on Tuesday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Then they discuss expectations for Deshaun Watson in his third season, why Browns fans should feel optimistic about the team, the left tackle situation and what’s going on with Jedrick Wills Jr. and more.

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Browns confidence ratings: How we feel about Deshaun Watson, Kevin Stefanski, the defense and more

Fri, 30 Aug 2024 17:15:58 -0000

The Browns will open their season a week from Sunday and we’ll finally get to see how this all looks in real football games. They open against the Cowboys on Sunday, Sept. 8.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe took a look at the state of the Browns heading into their opener by ranking their confidence level in different areas of the team on Friday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast on a scale of one to 10.

They divide their rankings up into five categories: the defense, the quarterback, the offense, the coaching staff and the front office.

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Why Denzel Ward's return matters so much to the Browns secondary

Thu, 29 Aug 2024 00:30:18 -0000

Browns cornerback Denzel Ward returned to practice on Wednesday, one of the final steps for him clearing the concussion protocol and another hurdle removed ahead of the Week 1 opener against the Cowboys.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the importance of Ward to the secondary and the defense on Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

First, they set up the rest of the week and discuss the anticipation for real football returning and what they’re looking forward to this season.

They also discuss the Browns practice squad and why it was important to bring back some core special teamers as well as why one player was left off.

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Would the Browns really consider trading Jameis Winston?

Wed, 28 Aug 2024 00:31:03 -0000

The Browns trimmed their roster to 53 players on Tuesday afternoon and the first thing that grabbed everyone's attention was the decision to keep four quarterbacks. It added fuel to the fire that one of them could be on the move and it's at least in play that it could be Jameis Winston.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe started Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the possibility of moving Winston and if it really is in play, if it would be a repeat of what they did last year when they handed the backup job to Dorian Thompson-Robinson and how long the Browns could let this play out.

Then they go over some of the other areas of the initial 53-man roster and what stood out to them. They talk running backs and D'Onta Foreman's future and talk about Andre Berry making tough decisions on his draft picks.

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What issues do the Browns face as they cut roster down to 53?

Tue, 27 Aug 2024 00:59:02 -0000

The Browns will complete their initial 53-man roster by 4 p.m. on Tuesday and they do have some difficult decisions to make as they figure out who to keep and who to let go.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk through roster projections and some of the decisions the Browns face and what they think they will do on Monday night's Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They look at the quarterback position and Dorian Thompson-Robinson’s longterm role and if he’s locked up the No. 3 job — and if he could be the No. 2 at some point this season.

They also go through the rest of the roster and talk through some of the difficult decisions.

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Bonus pod: Browns-Seahawks postgame recap

Sun, 25 Aug 2024 07:14:01 -0000

The Browns fell to the Seahawks in their preseason finale last night, a game in which starting quarterback Deshaun Watson sat out, as did other key starters. Now it's on to roster cuts, due by Tuesday at 4 p.m., and there are some difficult decisions.

After the game, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the game in their postgame video and this podcast is the audio version of that video.

Stay tuned for a more in-depth pod coming in the next day or two.

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Was there a wrench thrown into the Browns plans to play Deshaun Watson on Saturday night?

Wed, 21 Aug 2024 23:20:36 -0000

Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson stopped throwing during Wednesday's practice due to general soreness ahead of potentially playing for the first time last season this Saturday night in the Browns' preseason finale. Now it's up in the air if he'll play or not and it has us wondering how concerned we should be.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked about the situation with Watson on Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast and if it's something worth being concerned about and why we're going to draw attention to these things when they happen.

They also discuss Denzel Ward suffering his fifth documented concussion and how it will impact in the short and longterm.

Then they talk about Pierre Strong Jr. leaving practice and the state of the running back room.

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Does Deshaun Watson need to play Saturday for the Browns?

Wed, 21 Aug 2024 00:01:57 -0000

It doesn’t sound like a foregone conclusion all of a sudden that Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson will play on Saturday in Seattle. Head caoch Kevin Stefanski said he will make a final decision later this week.

That’s where Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start on Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They look ahead to Saturday’s game and what the value is of playing Watson in the game.

They also talk about expectations for wide receiver Jerry Jeudy and a very crowded cornerback room.

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Mike Hall Jr., the tackle situation and the third QB battle: Postgame podcast

Sun, 18 Aug 2024 03:22:07 -0000

The Browns played their second preseason game on Saturday night, losing to the Vikings, 27-12. As with most preseason games, the final score was secondary.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe hit the big three topics of the day from the game on the Orange and Brown Talk postgame podcast, starting with the decision to play Mike Hall Jr. in the game and how surprising it was given his arrest and injury this week.

Then they talk about the tackle situation and losing more bodies there on Saturday night.

They wrap up the podcast by talking about the battle at third quarterback and spend time talking about what they saw from Jameis Winston — even though he didn’t play — on Saturday night.

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Deshaun Watson strives for perfection, but what do the Browns need him to be?

Fri, 16 Aug 2024 01:04:24 -0000

The Browns’ joint practices with the Vikings provided an opportunity to see quarterback Deshaun Watson lead the offense against a different defense that presented new challenges.

How did Watson and the offense look? What about the defense against the Vikings offense?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the second day of joint practices on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, starting with what they saw and heard from Watson.

Then they spend time on the defense and why it was encouraging to see them play at a high level for most of the two practices.

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Why was Mike Hall Jr. allowed to practice on Wednesday following his arrest?

Thu, 15 Aug 2024 00:11:59 -0000

Browns rookie defensive tackle Mike Hall Jr. was allowed to practice on Wednesday, a day after he was charged for domestic violence. It was a bit of a surprise seeing him out there and head coach Kevin Stefanski evaded questions about it following practice.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed the decision to allow Hall to practice on Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast and why the Browns couldn’t just make the easy decision, at least for a day. They also discuss how Stefanski handled the situation and if he could have done a better job discussing it.

They also talk about their first joint practice with the Vikings as well as Denzel Ward once again going into the concussion protocol and his next steps.

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What we're watching when the Browns practice against the Vikings

Mon, 12 Aug 2024 22:20:37 -0000

The Browns will welcome the Vikings to town on Wednesday and Thursday for a pair of joint practices ahead of Saturday night’s preseason game. The practices are the highlight of a week when very few first and second-teamers will play in Saturday night’s preseason game.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk joint practices on Monday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, but first they get into Kevin Stefanski announcing Deshaun Watson is expected to play against the Seahawks in the Browns’ third preseason game.

Then they look ahead to the practices with the Vikings and discuss what they’re watching on both sides of the ball and why these practices are important.

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Can the Browns smooth things over with Amari Cooper?

Sun, 11 Aug 2024 03:17:46 -0000

The Browns played their first preseason game on Saturday night, losing to the Packers, but Amari Cooper was front and center on the minds of our Football Insider subscribers.

We asked our subscribers what they wanted to know on our first postgame Orange and Brown Talk podcast of the season and Cooper was the big topic. Should fans be worried Cooper might request a trade?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked about that before they got into questions about how the wide receiver room is shaking out behind the Top 3, the performance of Dorian Thompson-Robinson and how the Browns will manage injuries on the offensive line.

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Why the Browns will benefit from Jameis Winston and what we're watching against the Packers

Thu, 08 Aug 2024 23:58:08 -0000

Browns backup quarterback Jameis Winston, who will start Saturday night’s preseason opener against the Packers at Cleveland Browns Stadium, spoke to the media on Thursday and made a strong case for why he believes in Deshaun Watson.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing what Winston had to say and why he’s so important to the Browns and Watson this season.

Then they turn their attention to Saturday night’s game. They get into the battle for third quarterback between Dorian Thompson-Robinson and Tyler Huntley, the offensive tackle situation and sorting out the crowded defensive line room.

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What impact will Brandon Aiyuk trade rumors have on Amari Cooper?

Wed, 07 Aug 2024 00:40:24 -0000

The saga of where 49ers wide receiver Brandon Aiyuk will land is still hanging over all the teams involved, including the Browns and star wide receiver Amari Cooper.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked about the latest on Aiyuk as of Tuesday evening on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast and how they think these trade rumors are affecting Cooper and what it might mean if there’s fallout with Cooper if they don’t make the deal.

They also talk about some starters playing the preseason opener on Saturday — but not Deshaun Watson — and why it matters to get a look at Jameis Winston in this game.

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How the Browns are using their new weight room to gain an edge

Mon, 05 Aug 2024 22:52:22 -0000

The Browns showed off their brand new weight room to the media on Monday and it lived up to the hype. It is one of those areas where they are seeking an edge over their opponents on the field and in free agency.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked about what they saw on Monday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast, but first they discussed the injury to defensive end Za’Darius Smith which, for now, is a minor scare. They talk about the importance of Smith and how the rest of the defensive line is shaking out.

Then they get into why the weight room matters and how the Browns are spending their way into having an edge in training, recovery and technology.

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Are the Browns really in on 49ers receiver Brandon Aiyuk

Sun, 04 Aug 2024 23:52:58 -0000

The Browns and GM Andrew Berry are never shy about adding talent, so naturally their name will crop up when a player like Brandon Aiyuk potentially becomes available. Would they really be in the mix of San Francisco decided to trade the wide receiver?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe begin Sunday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Aiyuk, if there’s a real possibility it could happen and if it would be worth giving up Amari Cooper to get it done.

Then they look back at the day at training camp and talk about what they saw from Jerry Jeudy in his return to team drills. They also talk about Deshaun Watson and what he showed them hitting a few deep passes during practice.

They wrap up the podcast by talking Denzel Ward and the cornerback’s start to training camp.

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Recapping the Browns' training camp practices at The Greenbrier

Fri, 02 Aug 2024 18:19:40 -0000

The Browns wrapped up their final training camp practice at The Greenbrier Resort in West Virginia on Friday afternoon, and we’re here to recap all the action.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recap the week starting with Deshaun Watson and how he looked throwing for six straight days to open camp. They also discuss the Browns defensive line not being at full strength to kick camp off.

Next, they hit on the receiving corps, discussing how Jerry Jeudy practiced only the final two days and Elijah Moore being evaluated for a concussion on the final day. They go over what those absences might mean as the offense tries to navigate choice routes.

Finally, Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan hit on some standouts from the opening days of camp, including David Njoku, Martin Emerson Jr., Denzel Ward and Cedric Tillman.

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What we saw during the Browns most competitive practice of training camp

Thu, 01 Aug 2024 22:37:53 -0000

The pads were back on for the Browns on Thursday in their penultimate practice at The Greenbrier before heading home on Friday.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe recapped the day here, starting with a scary injury to running back D’Onta Foreman and the scene around it.

Then they talked about the returns of wide receiver Jerry Jeudy and Za’Darius Smith and right tackle Dawand Jones getting banged up.

Lastly, they get into what they saw at practice, including a challenging day for quarterback Deshaun Watson and why he’s struggling so much with the deep ball early in training camp.

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Deshaun Watson bounces back and why Mike Vrabel matters

Tue, 30 Jul 2024 23:52:00 -0000

The Browns can feel good about Deshaun Watson after the way he finished practice on Tuesday, perfroming well in red zone work to wrap up the session, even after getting off to a slow start.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Watson’s performance and what it means heading into a day on Wednesday when the Browns won’t hold a practice.

Then they talk about consultant Mike Vrabel and what he had to say when he talked to the media on Tuesday and why him working with the Browns is so important for the team and for him.

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What we saw from Deshaun Watson and heard from Andrew Berry on Monday

Mon, 29 Jul 2024 23:06:24 -0000

Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson appeared to shut down his practice session early on Monday and, while all indications are it's nothing to worry about, Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing why it was worth at least noting that something seemed strange at the end of practice, even if it ends up being nothing.

They talk about whether it's worth worrying about and where they expect things to go from here.

They also talk about Andrew Berry and what he had to say about the stadium and Amari Cooper's future with the Browns. They also talk about some of the updates he gave regarding injuries.

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What we learned from Browns owners Dee and Jimmy Haslam about Deshaun Watson, the stadium and more

Sat, 27 Jul 2024 23:39:30 -0000

Saturday at Browns training camp brought us our annual press conference from Browns owners Dee and Jimmy Haslam and Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to what they heard from them on Saturday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They start with how the Haslams talked about Deshaun Watson and their belief in him moving forward and how they have stood behind Watson ever since acquiring him.

Then they turn their attention to the stadium and what the Haslams said about the possibility of renovation vs. building a new stadium. They talk about what they believe Browns fans want and the pros and cons of both.

Then they look at the day's practice and what Mary Kay and Ashley saw as the Browns held one of their more competitive practices of early camp.

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What message was Deshaun Watson trying to deliver on Friday?

Sat, 27 Jul 2024 00:05:06 -0000

Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson spoke for the first time in training camp on Friday and said he’s “blocking out” the noise this season.

Why did he decide to deliver this message today and what did we think about it? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about what Watson had to say and their thoughts on how Watson is framing his approach this season.

First, they discuss Kevin Stefanski’s decision to retain playcalling and why they all agree with the decision.

Then they spend time on Nick Chubb sprinting and doing agility drills after practice. Could he be ready Week 1?

They also talk about what Mary Kay and Ashley saw and heard at practice on Friday.

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What Amari Cooper's contract means for the Browns and his future

Thu, 25 Jul 2024 17:47:44 -0000

The Browns and Amari Cooper ended Cooper's contract stalemate quietly this week before training camp opened, guaranteeing him $20 million and adding $5 million in incentives. Cooper reported to camp and all is well for the Browns as they land in West Virginia.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed the resolution to Cooper's contract stalemate on Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talk about why it ended up being a win for both sides, offering flexibility, and why it was so important to get something done.

They also peek ahead to the start of practices at The Greenbrier on Thursday and what to expect as the Browns get going on the 2024 season.

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3 players with the most to prove in Browns training camp

Tue, 23 Jul 2024 20:34:52 -0000

Browns training camp is always about competition and players proving themselves and Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe prepare for camp this week by picking out three players with plenty to prove this summer.

Obviously, Deshaun Watson is one, so they pass on another quarterback discussion for now and pick three different players, including two wide receivers and a defensive player who may not have to prove he belongs but still has to prove where he belongs.

They kick off the podcast with a little talk about The Greenbrier, where the Browns are starting camp for the second year in a row, and their experience there last year and what they're expecting this year as they venture into the depths of West Virginia.

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What are the storylines in Browns training camp this year? Hey, Mary Kay!

Mon, 22 Jul 2024 20:58:53 -0000

The Browns report for training camp in Berea this week and travel to and begin practicing at The Greenbrier in West Virginia on Thursday. We're starting this week of camp pods off with a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Mary Kay Cabot joins Dan Labbe to answer questions from our Football Insider subscribers.

They start by talking storylines. What are the big storylines they're watching this camp? What about some under-the-radar storylines? Which rookie and which veteran could exceed expectations.

They also spend time on bigger issues, like whether Amari Cooper could stage a hold-in, whether the Browns should explore a trade for Brandon Aiyuk and how the defense can improve in the red zone.

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Browns training camp battles to watch this summer

Fri, 19 Jul 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns kick off training camp next week at The Greenbrier in West Virginia and a number of battles will go under the spotlight, especially when the pads go on a few days in.

Lance Reisland joined Dan Labbe on Friday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast to look ahead to some of the camp battles he's looking forward to watching.

They look at the logjam at offensive tackle and how it could play out between Jedrick Wills Jr., Dawand Jones and Jack Conklin. They also look at the defensive tackle room and how the Browns will sort out the crowd in there.

They discuss the wide receiver depth chart and what will happen after the first four and spend time at linebacker and safety and get into the importance of special teams.

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Assessing the Browns wide receivers and where everyone fits

Thu, 18 Jul 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns are set at the top of the receiver depth chart, but it doesn't mean there isn't plenty of intrigue at the position. Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk through the position on this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They start with the addition of Jerry Jeudy and why the Browns made the move and extended him. They also talk about how he fits with Amari Cooper and Elijah Moore. Then they dig more into Moore and what his role could be now that the Browns have a better feel for how to use him and how he fits with Cooper and Jeudy.

They move down the depth chart and talk about the strong spring Cedric Tillman had and then get into the numbers game at the bottom of the receiver depth chart and who might be in or out.

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How the Browns will navigate the AFC North in 2024

Wed, 17 Jul 2024 04:01:00 -0000

One of the most important factors in a team's fate is how they perform and where they finish in their division. The Browns finished in the top half of the AFC North for the first time since 2007 but had to play a road playoff game.

Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe take a closer look at the Browns division on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast as they continue their keys to this team making it to the Super Bowl this season.

They start by talking about the Steelers and their quarterback situation and who they think the Browns will face when they take on Pittsburgh for the first time in the season's second half.

They move on to Cincinnati and the return of Joe Burrow and if people have forgotten about the Bengals after a down year last year.

Then they wrap up by looking at the defending division champs, the Ravens, and if they can repeat or if the Browns can dethrone them.

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How Kevin Stefanski has changed and grown during his time with the Browns

Tue, 16 Jul 2024 04:01:00 -0000

Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski just signed an extension and is going into his fifth season with the Browns in 2024. He's set up to lead this team for remainder of the decade.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe continue their series on keys to the Browns winning the Super Bowl this season by focusing on the man leading the charge. What do they see in Stefanski that gives him a chance to be the guy to lead them to the promised land.

Can he become the Browns' version of Mike Tomlin or John Harbaugh? Does it matter if he calls plays this year or hands things over to Ken Dorsey? How important was it for the Browns to land him after a messy year with Freddie Kitchens?

They cover all the bases with Stefanski on this edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

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How the Browns defense will deal with a difficult QB schedule in Year 2 under Jim Schwartz

Mon, 15 Jul 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns defense was dominant in its first year under Jim Schwartz in 2023, helping the Browns win 11 games and return to the playoffs.

Year 2 under Schwartz is next up in our series of keys to the Browns winning the Super Bowl and life will be a little more difficult for Schwartz and Co. in 2024. They face a difficult quarterback schedule and will be tested throughout the season by some of the league's top signal-callers.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look ahead on today's Orange and Brown Talk podcast to how the defense will evolve in 2024 and if they can repeat their performance from a season ago and go through the quarterbacks they have to face. They discuss which quarterback aside from Patrick Mahomes will be the most challenging and how they will deal with the gauntlet ahead of them.

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What did the Browns loss in Houston show us about the defense?

Sat, 13 Jul 2024 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns' wild card loss in Houston is still stuck in the minds of Browns fans, especially considering how poorly their defense played in the first half. Do they need to make changes based on what the Texans did to them?

That's one question our Football Insider subscribers had for Lance Reisland as he joined Dan Labbe on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast for a Q&A. Lance talks about what he saw in that game and why it went so poorly.

They also talk about the Browns' run game after Nick Chubb got hurt and what could change, roles for the wide receivers, what Lance has seen from Jameis Winston on film and what makes Amari Cooper such a good route runner.

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What is the future of the NFL's offseason program?

Fri, 12 Jul 2024 04:01:00 -0000

Browns defensive tackle Shelby Harris expressed strong thoughts about the future of the NFL's offseason program and a proposal that would eliminate it and replace it with an earlier report date for training camp.

Harris spoke with Ashley Bastock about his thoughts on the program and Ashley and Dan Labbe spend Friday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast discussing her interview with Harris and the story she posted about it at cleveland.com/browns on Friday.

They get into the 18-game schedule and how the potential of adding a game is impacting all of these discussions and what the NFLPA is trying to get out of allowing the NFL to add an 18th game.

They also get into some of the ins and outs of the offseason program and why it's valuable to the NFL from a marketing and content standpoint and what they get out of it as well as the issues the NFLPA sometimes has when it comes to achieving solidarity.

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What to expect from Browns edge rusher Myles Garrett in 2024?

Wed, 10 Jul 2024 20:33:50 -0000

Browns edge rusher Myles Garrett continued earning high praise this offseason, being voted the league’s top edge rusher by NFL executives, coaches and scouts.

It’s a big reason Garrett is one of our 15 keys for the Browns to win the Super Bowl in 2024.

Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe spend Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast discussing Garrett and what the expectations are for him heading into another year of high expectations for him and his team.

Will this be a run of Defensive Player of the Year awards for Garrett? What are our expectations for him statistically this season? How does winning impact how he is viewed?

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What to expect from Za'Darius Smith in his second season with the Browns

Tue, 09 Jul 2024 16:00:00 -0000

The Browns are counting on edge rusher Za'Darius Smith to follow up a strong first season with the Browns with another good season rushing the passer and it's why he is one of our 15 keys to the Browns winning the Super Bowl.

Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe spend Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast discussing Smith and what to expect from him in his second season with the Browns.

They talk about why the Browns decided to bring Smith back and what to realistically expect from him in his second season on the other end of Myles Garrett. How can Smith and Garrett be better together this season and how will Smith continue to benefit from Garrett and Jim Schwartz's scheme.

They also talk about how the Browns have approached their No. 2 edge rush position and how it has been impacted by the lack of a first-round pick the last three drafts.

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Why Grant Delpit is so important for the Browns defense

Mon, 08 Jul 2024 19:23:23 -0000

Browns safety Grant Delpit had his best season as a pro in 2023 and was rewarded with a contract extension, making him one of the core pieces of the defense.

Ashley Bastock wrote a feature on Delpit that ran on Monday (You can read it here) all about Delpit's early life and path to the NFL and his penchant for being patient when life throws him curveballs. Ashley and Dan Labbe talked about Delpit and her feature on him on Monday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast, continuing our series on keys to the Browns making a Super Bowl run.

They start by discussing the story and how it came together as well as what Ashley learned about Delpit in the process and what she left out of the story.

Then they talk about Delpit's fit in Jim Schwartz's defense and his development on and off the field.

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How the Browns and the rest of the NFL will handle the new kickoff rule

Wed, 03 Jul 2024 15:41:23 -0000

The NFL is changing it's kickoff rule in 2024 and the Browns and the rest of the league are all trying to figure out how to handle what could be a seismic change.

Lance Reisland joined Dan Labbe on Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast to discuss the new rule and what it could look like. They start by simply explaining the rule and what fans can expect to see when they get their first look at it.

Then they get into some of the strategies teams might employ and the types of players they will look to utilize in both returns and coverage as they operate in closer quarters.

They also discuss injuries and how teams might try to protect their kickers in a world where they might have to make more tackles. They discuss why they believe this will lead to more injuries.

If you want to learn more about the rule, check out this explainer from the NFL.

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What are choice routes and how are the Browns using them?

Tue, 02 Jul 2024 15:01:17 -0000

Tuesday continues our look at football concepts and ideas as we dive into Football 101 with Lance Reisland.

Lance joins Dan Labbe and they focus today on the offensive side of the ball and choice routes, one of the phrases of the offseason as the Browns install a new offense under Ken Dorsey. What is a choice route and how does it change things for the Browns?

First, Dan and Lance talk offensive personnel groupings and what it means when someone says a team is in 11 personnel or 12 personnel and how to figure it out.

Then it's on to those pesky choice routes and how it's going to look in the Browns offense. Why will Browns receivers work in this type of offense? Where else have we seen this style of route running be effective?

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Football 101: Identifying coverages and defensive line alignments with Lance Reisland

Mon, 01 Jul 2024 17:04:31 -0000

What coverage are the Browns in most under Jim Schwartz? How can someone tell what type of coverage they're in from play-to-play? What about defensive alignments? What is a 3-technique anyway?

Football is complicated and it's easy to get lost in the jargon and the terminology that gets thrown around with ease but not much explanation. Cleveland.com's film expert, Lance Reisland, is here to try to simplify and explain what you're watching on Sundays.

In the first of a series of Orange and Brown Talk podcasts, Lance walks us through a few things on the defensive side of the ball.

First, he and host Dan Labbe talk coverages. How would he describe what the Browns do on the back end and what can fans watch to get an idea of what they're doing? Why are they able to run it? What is a quarterback looking for?

Then they turn their attention to the defensive line. How are the alignments of defensive linemen numbered and why?

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Who should call plays and 4 more Browns questions

Fri, 28 Jun 2024 21:08:41 -0000

Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski hasn’t announced whether he or new offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey will call plays in 2024. It’s one of the remaining questions as the Browns get set to open training camp next month.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer five Browns questions on Friday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast, including who they think should call plays when the season kicks off in September.

They also discuss which new coaching hire will have the biggest impact, if a player besides Myles Garrett could win Defensive Player of the Year for the Browns, if the Amari Cooper situation will be resolved by the time camp opens and if they believe the Browns will finally make a first-round pick again in 2025.

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What can we expect from Browns running back Nick Chubb in 2024?

Thu, 27 Jun 2024 22:40:00 -0000

Browns running back Nick Chubb is working his way back from a serious knee injury that ended his 2023 season and required two surgeries to repair. Chubb has become the face of the Browns and is a favorite of fans and teammates.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe continued their look at keys to winning a Super Bowl for the Browns on Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast. The focus today is Chubb and the Browns running back room.

They talk about when Chubb could make his return and the importance of not rushing him back. They also get into what to expect from his on-field performance coming off a serious injury.

They discuss the running back room as a whole and the roles some of the team's young backs could fill and even ask if the Browns should have considered bringing back Kareem Hunt.

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How young players like Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah and Martin Emerson Jr. impact the Browns defense

Wed, 26 Jun 2024 22:50:31 -0000

The Browns defense was one of the top units in the NFL in 2023, buoyed by defensive player of the year Myles Garrett and a handful of other high-priced veterans like Denzel Ward, Dalvin Tomlinson and Juan Thornhill.

The thing that really completed the defense, however, were the youths, recent Andrew Berry draft picks who are playing on rookie deals and playing well.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe picked out two in particular as they discuss a few topics from their 15 keys to winning the Super Bowl series -- linebacker Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah and cornerback Martin Emerson Jr.

They spend Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast discussing the impact each player makes and how they've managed to fit in and thrive in defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz's scheme.

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What should the Browns expect from David Njoku in 2024?

Tue, 25 Jun 2024 22:24:04 -0000

Browns tight end David Njoku had a breakout season in 2023, especially in the season's second half, and expectations are high for him in the Browns' new offense. How high could his ceiling be this season?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe continue looking at keys to the Browns winning the Super Bowl on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast with a look at Njoku and what the Browns should expect from their start tight end. How can he build on a productive second half of the season? How has he compared to expectations during his career? Are we too hard on Njoku and why?

They dig into what could be a big season for him under new offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey and his role in the Browns' talented pass catching corps.

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Why Amari Cooper is so important to the Browns and how they can keep him

Mon, 24 Jun 2024 20:52:20 -0000

The Browns and wide receiver Amari Cooper are at a contract impasse after Cooper skipped the team's mandatory minicamp two weeks ago. He wants a new deal and the Browns have a decision to make as far as how to approach their star wideout.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe begin a look at their 15 keys to winning the Super Bowl series -- with stories running throughout July -- by looking at Cooper and why he's so important to the Browns on Monday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They start with how the Browns will or should approach Cooper's contract and how a deal could get done before they get into why Cooper is so important to this team reaching its goal this season. They also discuss the possibility of a swap for 49ers receiver Brandon Aiyuk and delve into what the receiving corps would look like without Cooper.

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What's next for the Browns and Amari Cooper? Is Deshaun Watson's rehab ahead of schedule? Hey, Mary Kay!

Thu, 20 Jun 2024 22:20:32 -0000

After Amari Cooper's minicamp holdout, he continues to be the main topic on the minds of Browns fans.

Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock start Thursday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by answering a question about what GM Andrew Berry had to say about Cooper in a recent interview. They also discuss why trading Cooper, even for a younger player like Brandon Aiyuk, would be out of character for this regime.

The two also answer questions about QB Deshaun Watson and his shoulder rehab, starting with the significance of Berry saying the quarterback is "ahead of schedule."

Then, they dive into choice routes: Will they make the offense more complicated? Why haven't the Browns and Kevin Stefanski implemented them into the offense earlier?

Finally, the two throw out some names on both sides of the ball when discussing who could be "sleeper contributors," in the vein of Dawand Jones in 2023.

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Looking ahead to the Browns being on “Hard Knocks: In Season with the AFC North”

Tue, 18 Jun 2024 04:00:00 -0000

Talking about "Hard Knocks" can be "contagious" for Browns fans.

On Monday, news came out that the Browns will be featured on “Hard Knocks: In Season with the AFC North," and on this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast, Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock are offering a preview and their thoughts on what to expect.

The two discuss how this is the first time "Hard Knocks" has focused on an entire division, as well as all the storylines that make the AFC North compelling -- particularly with each team's quarterbacks.

They also go through the Browns' schedule and try to piece together some of the key games the cameras will chronicle, as well as go through the difficult logistics of filming during the season.

Finally, it's a trip down memory lane with a look back at the last time the Browns were featured on "Hard Knocks," which was during training camp in 2018. Ashley and Mary Kay go through the drama that came to light at the time, the different highlights -- including Jarvis Landry's "contagious" speech -- and how the organization is in a very different place six years later.

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Who has momentum for the Browns after the offseason program?

Mon, 17 Jun 2024 04:01:00 -0000

We’re starting the week on the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by looking ahead to The Greenbrier and the start of training camp.

Sure, there’s a break between the offseason program and training camp, but it doesn’t mean that players can’t have momentum coming out of the spring.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe spend the podcast by listing Browns players who had strong springs and could carry that momentum into the summer and training camp.

They cover a bunch of areas of the team, moving from the back end of the defense to names who stood out on offense.

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What is a reasonable price for the Browns to pay Amari Cooper? Hey, Mary Kay!

Fri, 14 Jun 2024 20:30:59 -0000

The Browns are off for the summer but the business side of the league doesn’t stop. They have a situation to figure out with wide receiver Amari Cooper, who held out of mandatory minicamp, seeking a contract extension.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start Friday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by answering a question about what a reasonable number would be for Cooper. They also discuss if the Browns could consider trading Cooper and get into the ins and outs of the situation.

Then they talk about OTAs and the vibes around them, why Myles Garrett has struggled to finish strong in recent years and the left tackle situation.

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Deshaun Watson has a strong day at Browns minicamp as training camp looms

Thu, 13 Jun 2024 21:26:01 -0000

Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson had one of his best days of the offseason program on Thursday and his best day of all the practices open to the media. It was an encouraging spring for the team's starting quarterback coming off of major shoulder surgery.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed Watson's performance on Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast recapping the day at minicamp.

First, they talk about Myles Garrett pulling up with a hamstring injury and if it's something to worry about. (Spoiler alert: It's not.)

They also discuss the strong spring second-year wide receiver Cedric Tillman had and his opportunity in minicamp with Amari Cooper not reporting and Jerry Jeudy not practicing due to injury.

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What's next for the Browns and Amari Cooper?

Thu, 13 Jun 2024 00:36:56 -0000

Wide receiver Amari Cooper was once again not in attendance during Wednesday's Browns minicamp practice, which is where Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe begin Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They discuss what it means that Cooper wasn't there for Day 2 and if it only adds to the feeling this could drag out longer. They also talk about what terms the Browns could cook up to make an extension with Cooper work for both sides.

Then they talk about Myles Garrett, who spoke on Wednesday. How can he make sure he finishes the 2024 season strong, right as the Browns schedule toughens up? What standard should Garrett be held to after winning his first Defensive Player of the Year award?

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How will the Browns handle Amari Cooper's holdout?

Wed, 12 Jun 2024 01:11:01 -0000

Browns wide receiver Amari Cooper didn’t show up to mandatory minicamp and head coach Kevin Stefanski confirmed his absence is unexcused. Cooper is holding out and the Browns will have to navigate a tricky situation.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Tuesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Cooper’s holdout and how the Browns will approach the situation with their No. 1 receiver.

Then they discuss what Deshaun Watson had to say after practice about where he’s ranked in the league and if it means anything to him.

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What we're watching at Browns minicamp and looking back at David Njoku's softball game

Mon, 10 Jun 2024 20:56:17 -0000

The Browns are all back together this week for their three-day mandatory minicamp, featuring three practices open to the media. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Monday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast by looking ahead to minicamp and what they're watching.

What will Deshaun Watson be able to do? How will all the receivers line up? What about the defensive line with some of the new additions on the interior?

Then they look back on their experience at David Njoku's celebrity softball game, which featured a collision between Watson and tight end Zaire Mitchell-Paden that gave everyone in attendance momentary pause. Mary Kay walks us through her thoughts as she chased the story before they all recap a day that featured lots of security and a promise from Ronnie from Jersey Shore.

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How much credit should the Haslams get for Browns stability? Hey, Mary Kay!

Fri, 07 Jun 2024 10:00:00 -0000

The Browns signed GM Andrew Berry and head coach Kevin Stefanski to extensions and Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start Friday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by giving credit to the people who write the checks.

They discuss how Dee and Jimmy Haslam have grown as owners and why this is such an important milestone in their tenure, as well as Paul DePodesta's role in all of this.

Then they turn their attention to on-field questions. Thye start with the play calling and what they think will happen on that front. They get into the defense in Year 2 under Jim Schwartz and if it can actually be better this year than last year.

They end the podcast by answering questions about kickers and get into their role in the new kickoff and discuss the the Browns stadium situation.

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Can Myles Garrett reach an even higher level for the Browns?

Thu, 06 Jun 2024 23:29:20 -0000

We spent our Wednesday Orange and Brown Talk podcast focusing on extensions for Browns GM Andrew Berry and head coach Kevin Stefanski as well as what running back Nick Chubb had to say.

Thursday, we're cleaning up some of what we left behind on Wednesday's podcast from our final day at OTAs.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Thursday's podcast by discussing if Myles Garrett has another level and if new defensive line coach Jacques Cesaire can coax it out of him in 2024. Are there other pass rushers Cesaire can help?

Then they discuss the addition of Duce Staley and what they've seen and heard from the Browns' new running backs coach. How is he different from Stump Mitchell and how will the running back room shake out behind Chubb, whether he's ready to go Week 1 or not.

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How do extensions for Browns GM Andrew Berry and coach Kevin Stefanski change expectations?

Thu, 06 Jun 2024 00:19:32 -0000

Wednesday started off with news the Browns had agreed to extensions with GM Andrew Berry and head coach Kevin Stefanski, the long-awaited deals getting done after the Browns made the playoffs for the second time in four years with the two together.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start off the Wednesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the extensions and what they mean for Berry and Stefanski moving forward.

They also talk about Nick Chubb, who spoke to the media on Wednesday and what stood out about what Chubb had to say and when they might see him on the field again.

Then they wrap up by talking about the day on the practice field or, more specifically, who wasn't on the practice field on Wednesday.

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The next steps for Deshaun Watson and what has stood out at OTAs

Tue, 04 Jun 2024 23:12:40 -0000

The Browns will hold their final open practice of OTAs on Wednesday before they hold their mandatory minicamp next week, leading into some time off before it's time to report for training camp.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the next steps for starting quarterback Deshaun Watson. Will we see him throw more over the next two weeks? What about what he'll do before training camp? Will he host a passing camp?

Then they look at the first two practices they've watched in OTAs by talking about what has stood out to them so far. From the performance of rookies to the new coaches to receivers how have stood out, they go over all of it.

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How much more is there to say about Browns QB Deshaun Watson's rehab?

Mon, 03 Jun 2024 20:00:35 -0000

We saw Deshaun Watson throw for the first time at an open media session last week and, on Monday at the Browns annual charity golf outing, Kevin Stefanski reiterated what he said about Watson a couple weeks ago. So what's left to say about Watson?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about Watson and what's left to say until we see the next steps in his rehab process. They also get into a video Mary Kay tweeted from OTAs that went viral and if it meant anything.

They start Monday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the future of Joel Bitonio, who spoke on Monday, and how much longer the team's left guard could play.

They wrap up the podcast by getting into Justin Jefferson's contract extension, the future of the market and how the Browns and GM Andrew Berry are trying to stay ahead.

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How much will Mike Vrabel be involved with the Browns? Hey, Mary Kay!

Fri, 31 May 2024 22:00:00 -0000

Former Titans coach Mike Vrabel, a Northeast Ohio native, Ohio State alum and Super Bowl champion with the Patriots, is a consultant with the Browns and was very visible on the field during Thursday's OTA practice. How involved will Vrabel be with the Browns?

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start Friday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Vrabel's role with the Browns and what he'll offer them.

They also answer questions from Football Insider subscribers about Elijah Moore and if he could be used as an outside receiver with Jerry Jeudy in the slot when the Browns are in three receiver sets. They spend time talking about the new kickoff rule and why the Browns are going back to the Greenbrier before finishing up with a discussion about Deshaun Watson's arm strength and where he's at in his rehab.

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How Browns Deshaun Watson looked on Thursday at OTAs

Thu, 30 May 2024 23:50:25 -0000

Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson threw the football in front of the media on Thursday during OTA practice, the first time we've had a chance to see him throw since the win in Baltimore.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their Thursday Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing what they saw from Watson. How did he look throwing the football? What does it all mean? What stood out?

Then they get into Elijah Moore, who showed up this week and spoke to the media on Thursday. They discussed the vibes Moore gave off and his fit in offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey's offense.

They also talk about players not coming to OTAs and if they'd like to see more players show up. Does it matter if they do or don't?

And, of course, they get into Mike Vrabel's appearance on the field and getting to see Vrabel do some coaching with the Browns for the first time.

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What will we learn about Deshaun Watson on Thursday?

Wed, 29 May 2024 22:31:49 -0000

The long-awaited day is here on Thursday. We will get to watch Deshaun Watson throw a football when the Browns hold an open practice.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their Thursday preview Orange and Brown Talk podcast of another open practice by discussing what they expect to see from Watson when they get to watch him throw the football.

They also talk about some of the other things they want to watch and what they’re listening for, including getting an opportunity to talk to all three of the team’s coordinators. They also discuss some of the players on the field they’re keeping an eye on when they are in Berea.

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Should OTAs go away and what are we watching when Browns QB Deshaun Watson throws Thursday?

Tue, 28 May 2024 20:55:55 -0000

The NFLPA is trying to do away with the NFL's offseason program, proposing a move up to the start of training camp instead of the current system which involves mostly voluntary work and one mandatory minicamp.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe begin Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the proposal and their feelings on whether there should be an offseason program or not. Is there a benefit to the proposal? Would it be a bad idea? They go over the pros and (mostly) cons of the proposal.

Then they look ahead to Thursday, this week's open practice for the Browns. They are expected to see Deshaun Watson throw in-person for the first time and they get into what they'll watch when they're out there and also get into some other things to look for during their second opportunity to watch practice.

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Ask us anything: Fighting animals, covering Browns moments and best bad advice

Fri, 24 May 2024 22:00:00 -0000

A long holiday weekend means we decided to take a detour from our normal podcasts and open up the Football Insider mailbag for an Ask Us Anything edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

On a long weekend edition of the podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start by discussing which animal they think they could beat in hand-to-hand combat if their lives depended on it before they spend some time on the best bad (and good) advice they've received in life.

They also talk about business they're in. What moment does Mary Kay remember covering the most? What are the moments that give them pause or make them appreciate what they do? What advice do they have when it comes to writing longer features?

They cover a bunch of topics in this edition of the pod.

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What types of things things translate from Browns OTAs to the regular season? Hey, Mary Kay!

Thu, 23 May 2024 22:00:00 -0000

We get to watch three Browns OTA practices and three more mandatory minicamp practices over the course of four weeks. So how much of what we see on the field in the spring translates to the regular season?

That's where Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start on Thursday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast. What are the things we see in these practices that could tell us something about the regular season?

They also answer questions from our subsciribers about Nick Chubb -- Should the Browns slow-play it with their star back? -- that status of contract extensions for GM Andrew Berry and head coach Kevin Stefanski, the vibes around OTAs and the state of the linebacker room.

Then they answer a question about Hue Jackson and what his tenure would have been like in Cleveland with this type of talent.

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What we saw during Browns OTAs on Wednesday

Thu, 23 May 2024 01:29:25 -0000

The Browns were back on the practice field on Wednesday, their second OTA practice and their first open to the media this spring.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe were all there, of course, and recapped what they watched on Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They start with what they saw from Deshaun Watson, even though he didn’t throw on Wednesday, and what they were still able to learn.

Then they get into the players who were able to participate more, pointing out the players who stood out to them while they watched practice, including a few receivers and some of the rookies.

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Deshaun Watson isn't throwing Wednesday, so what are we watching now at Browns OTAs?

Wed, 22 May 2024 01:00:40 -0000

The Browns opened OTAs on Tuesday and Deshaun Watson threw in a practice closed to the media. Unfortunately, in their first open practice on Wednesday, Watson won't throw as part of his rehab plan.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Watson's throwing plan and when they might get to watch him throw in a practice. They also get into what it means for Jameis Winston and Tyler Huntley as OTAs roll on.

Then they talk about the players they will be watching when they get to see practice on Wednesday and who they're looking forward to seeing. They discuss two wide receivers and a defensive tackle.

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What will we learn about Deshaun Watson, the new Browns offense and more at OTAs?

Mon, 20 May 2024 21:17:29 -0000

Deshaun Watson's return to practice is one of the most anticipated storylines of the Browns' offseason program and Wednesday could offer a first glimpse publicly of Watson throwing. Will we actually get to see it?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe looked ahead to the opening of Browns OTAs on Monday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast and the first practice open to the media on Wednesday by discussing what to expect from Watson and what they're watching.

They also discuss the status of Nick Chubb and if there's a chance he could make an appearance at one of the practices before they get into the state of the tackle position and how Jack Conklin's timeline to return to the field could clear the way for Dawand Jones at right tackle.

They also discuss the new offense, some players returning from injury on the defensive line and more.

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How long will it take Browns to adjust to a new-look offense? Hey, Mary Kay!

Fri, 17 May 2024 18:00:43 -0000

The Browns are once again tinkering with their offense this season, bringing in new offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey in a hope to get Deshaun Watson's career back on track and spark their passing attack with Watson at the helm.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe begin Friday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing the new offense and how long it might take for the Browns and Watson to really get it going.

They also answer questions about how this year's schedule compares to last year and the best home game for an out-of-town fan to attend.

They wrap up the show by answering a question about the positions they would still address on the roster.

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How will the Browns navigate a challenging schedule?

Thu, 16 May 2024 21:06:17 -0000

The Browns got to see their schedule on Wednesday night and we’re still talking about it on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe continue their look at the schedule by discussing how the difficult back portion of the schedule will impact their approach and how important some of the winnable game early in the season will be.

They also talk about the Browns signing quarterback Jacob Sirmon and what adding a fifth quarterback tells us about the rest of the quarterback room at this stage in the offseason program.

They also spend some time looking ahead to OTAs next week.

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Breaking down the Browns 2024 schedule

Thu, 16 May 2024 03:13:54 -0000

The Browns schedule was released on Wednesday night along with the rest of the NFL schedule. It is back-loaded with difficult matchups and short weeks following their Week 10 bye.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe got together after the schedule release and broke down what they thought of how the schedule came out.

They start by looking at the back part of the schedule and how the Browns will navigate challenging opponents and short weeks.

They also get into some other areas of the schedule that stand out, schedule release videos and they spend time talking about the Browns playing a preseason game in Seattle.

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Predicting the Browns 2024 schedule: We pick all 18 weeks

Tue, 14 May 2024 17:31:07 -0000

We know a little about the Browns 2024 schedule, which will be released in full on Wednesday night at 8 p.m., but there's still plenty of mystery about how the 17 weeks after their opener against Dallas will play out.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe did their annual schedule prediction draft on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They go through and place all of the opponents throughout the schedule.

They take turns drafting opponents and placing them on a line on the schedule, trying to figure out how to backload the schedule with division games, not end up with too many home or road games in a row and whether the Browns will end up playing Jacksonville in London.

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Reaction to the Browns opening against the Cowboys and other games we're excited to see

Tue, 14 May 2024 00:06:45 -0000

The Browns will open the 2024 regular season against the Cowboys at Cleveland Browns Stadium at 4:25 p.m. on Fox. It will be one of the marquee games of the first week and an opportunity for the Browns to go against America’s Team.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to the news of the Browns’ opening week game. The rest of the NFL schedule will be released on Wednesday night, though a few more games will still be announced in the coming days.

They discuss all the hype surrounding the game, including Tom Brady calling his first game as a broadcaster, as well as Deshaun Watson returning to the field against one of the league’s best pass rushers in Micah Parsons.

They also get into some of the games they’re looking forward to covering this season.

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First impressions of Browns rookies at minicamp

Sat, 11 May 2024 21:48:04 -0000

Browns rookie minicamp offers us an opportunity to see and hear from the Browns 2024 draft class for the first time. The team held media availability and open practices on Friday and Saturday.

After we watched practice on Saturday, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the Browns’ most recent class pick-by-pick, going through what they heard and saw from all six of the new picks on Saturday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast.

They get into one-on-ones Mary Kay had with Mike Hall Jr. and Jamari Thrash before they talk about the maturity of Zak Zinter and Nathaniel Watson and what the Browns might get out of their Day 3 picks.

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What to watch at Browns rookie minicamp this weekend

Fri, 10 May 2024 00:35:06 -0000

Browns rookies are in town this weekend for the team's rookie minicamp, their first chance to experience life in the NFL. They will hold three practices over the weekend, including two open to the media, and will have media availability.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look ahead to the weekend on today's Orange and Brown Talk podcast and discuss the things they're watching and what they can learn from rookie minicamp.

Which players and coaches will they keep an eye on? What do they hope to hear when they talk to players? What can you learn from watching practices athat are mostly individual drills? They cover it all in this rookie minicamp preview.

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Browns schedule wishlist: What we hope to see next week

Thu, 09 May 2024 01:02:00 -0000

The NFL will release its schedule next week, which means it's time for schedule content.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe take an early look ahead at the Browns schedule and put together a wish list for what they hope to see when the Browns schedule comes out. Are they hoping for a London game? When would they like to see division games? What about night games?

They put together a list of everything they're hoping for when the schedule comes out. What about Vegas? Should it go back-to-back with Denver? When should they play Kansas City? They cover all of it on Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast.

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What will we learn at Browns rookie minicamp? Hey, Mary Kay!

Wed, 08 May 2024 01:07:06 -0000

The Browns will hold rookie minicamp this weekend and our Football Insider subscribers had some questions about what to expect when the Browns rookies take the field.

It's where Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start Tuesday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. Which players are they most interested in seeing and what do they hope to learn?

They also talk a little about Jamari Thrash and the rest of the receivers and how it all fits together.

Then they get into whether Deshaun Watson will throw during OTAs or minicamp and if Nick Chubb could make an appearance before they discuss a little about where the Browns rank in the AFC and how big of a factor Watson's health is in all of it.

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The latest on Browns quarterback Dorian Thompson-Robinson and recapping the weekend

Mon, 06 May 2024 22:36:32 -0000

Browns quarterback Dorian Thompson-Robinson's rookie season ended prematurely last year with a hip injury and, in some ways, he became the forgotten man in the quarterback room. This time a year ago, he began his rise to backup quarterback and now he faces questions about his role on this year's team.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe started their Monday Orange and Brown Talk Podcast discussing Thompson-Robinson, who Mary Kay spoke with over the weekend. What can we expect from him in the offseason and will we see him throwing?

Then they talk about the defensive tackle room and how it will all come together.

They also discuss Justin Hardee, who Ashley wrote a feature on, and what she learned about him in the process and why he's so important to this team.

They wrap up by talking about Duke Johnson, who announced his retirement on Sunday night.

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Recapping the Browns draft: Favorite and most intriguing picks from last weekend

Fri, 03 May 2024 22:00:00 -0000

It has been one week since the Browns made six draft picks in the 2024 NFL Draft, plenty of time to digest what they did and why they added the players they picked.

Cleveland.com‘s draft expert Tim Bielik and film expert Lance Reisland join the Orange and Brown Talk podcast to recap the team’s draft and go over every pick the Browns made.

Tim and Lance join Dan Labbe and pick their favorite pick from the Browns draft, their most intriguing pick and then they discuss the remaining names from the Browns’ draft class before getting into some of the other happenings from last weekend.

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Which positions on the Browns roster do we feel most and least confident in?

Thu, 02 May 2024 22:01:07 -0000

The Browns have reconvened after the draft for the next phase of their offseason program and will officially welcome their new rookie class to the field next weekend for rookie minicamp.

With the roster taking shape and six new players on their way along with undrafted free agents fighting for jobs, which areas of the Browns roster are we most and least comfortable with as spring rolls on?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe went through and offered up one position each to answer the question on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast. They talked about areas of strength and areas where they’re still a little nervous about the team as it starts to mold into its final form.

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Breaking down all the Browns draft picks

Wed, 01 May 2024 23:46:04 -0000

The Browns are welcoming in a new draft class after adding six new players last weekend. It was a mostly uneventful draft for the Browns, but they added some intriguing prospects to the mix.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the Browns draft class on Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk by going through each pick. They start with Mike Hall Jr. at No. 54 and go pick-by-pick through Andrew Berry's latest draft class, all the way to Jowon Briggs.

They get into why the Browns picked each player, how they fit in the short and longterm and how each player's role might evolve over their career with the team.

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Will Greg Newsome II stay with the Browns longterm? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 30 Apr 2024 23:17:37 -0000

The Browns exercised the fifth-year option on cornerback Greg Newsome II on Tuesday, locking him in through the 2025 season. What happens after that will be interesting given the number of defensive backs the team could be paying by then.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe begin Tuesday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by discussing Newsome and why picking up the option made sense as well as whether the Browns could engage in longterm contract discussions with their 2021 first-round pick.

They also discuss the quarterback room and the battle between Dorian Thompson-Robinson and Tyler Huntley for the third QB job and how long the leash will be on Deshaun Watson this season before answering questions about two draft picks from a year ago and discussing the possibilities for the stadium.

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What the NFL Draft taught us about the Browns roster

Mon, 29 Apr 2024 22:26:45 -0000

The Browns had a mostly uneventful draft weekend, staying put and making picks to add depth to their roster in what was their final draft without a first-round pick as a result of the Deshaun Watson trade.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe looked at the picks the Browns made on Monday’s Orange and Brown Talk podcast and discussed what the picks told them about the Browns roster and what they think about it.

They discuss the addition of a defensive tackle, why they didn’t add a wide receiver and what state the Browns roster as a whole is in at the moment.

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The Browns Deshaun Watson trade is complete; can we judge it now?

Sun, 28 Apr 2024 01:45:16 -0000

The Houston Texans made the final pick in the Deshaun Watson deal on Saturday in the NFL Draft, meaning the trade is officially done. Now it’s just about where both teams go from here and, more importantly for the Browns, if Watson can get healthy and do what the Browns hoped when they made the deal.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed the end of the deal, or at least the pieces of it, on Saturday’s draft recap edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast.

After they discuss where the Watson deal stands now, they get into what the Browns did on Saturday and their impressions of the team’s draft class.

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What the Browns saw in Michael Hall Jr. and Zak Zinter on Day 2 of the NFL Draft

Sat, 27 Apr 2024 05:54:31 -0000

The Browns beefed up the trenches on Friday night in the NFL Draft, staying put in their original spots and picking defensive tackle Michael Hall Jr. at No. 54 and guard Zak Zinter at No. 85.

At the end of the night, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed the picks the Browns made and cleveland.com's draft expert Tim Bielik offered his quick analysis of both picks.

They discuss the decision to stick and pick Hall instead of taking the offers that were available to them to trade out of the 54th pick.

Then they get into the not-so-pleasant connection Hall and Zinter have and how bizarre it is before they discuss Zinter's future role and what it means for Joel Bitonio and Wyatt Teller.

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What the Browns should do in the NFL Draft on Friday night

Fri, 26 Apr 2024 05:31:50 -0000

The Browns, once again, didn't have a first-round pick in the NFL Draft, making for a quiet Thursday night for the team and fans. There was plenty happening league-wide, though, and Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to what they watched in Round 1.

Then they looked ahead to Friday when the Browns will go on the clock at No. 54 overall. They lay out what they think Andrew Berry should do with his two picks on Friday night and how the Browns should approach Day 2 of the draft.

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NFL Draft first round mock: We make all 32 picks

Wed, 24 Apr 2024 03:37:28 -0000

The NFL Draft kicks off on Thursday night and we're getting you ready with a full first round mock draft.

For the third year in a row, the Orange and Brown Talk and Buckeye Talk crews got together and made every pick in the first round. Nathan Baird, Tim Bielik, Andrew Gillis, Dan Labbe, Stephen Means and Jimmy Watkins were all assigned teams and they worked their way through the first 32 picks, making trades and filling needs along the way.

While the first pick was a no-brainer, things got interesting after that and included discussions on Justin Fields in Pittsburgh and which Buckeyes player could be the first to go in their class next year.

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3 Browns predictions for the 2024 NFL Draft

Mon, 22 Apr 2024 22:30:31 -0000

The Browns will kick off their last of three straight years without a first-round pick this week, going on the clock on Friday night in the second round. They don't have as much draft capital to work with this year as in years past, so there are plenty of options on the table for GM Andrew Berry in his fifth draft.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe look ahead to this week's draft by making predictions for the Browns.

What will they do with their first pick? Could they take a quarterback? What about those two seventh rounders? Check out their predictions on Monday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast.

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Will Deshaun Watson be elite again in 2024? Hey, Mary Kay!

Sat, 20 Apr 2024 04:01:00 -0000

Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson is attempting to come back from an injury this season and has played in just 12 games in two seasons since the Browns acquired him. Is this the year he returns to the elite level the Browns hoped for when they acquired him? Will he at least be a Top 10 quarterback?

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by answering those questions about Watson before answering another about what it would actually take for the Browns to decide to move on from Watson.

Then they answer a question about the Browns record next season and discuss a couple of draft questions about what positions the Browns value in the draft and if linebacker and defensive tackle are in play.

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What are some names to remember for the Browns in the NFL Draft?

Thu, 18 Apr 2024 22:50:27 -0000

We spent our first two draft podcasts discussing specific positions. First it was wide receivers and tight ends, then it was defensive linemen. Today, on our final draft podcast, we open it up to everything else.

Cleveland.com's draft expert Tim Bielik and film expert Lance Reisland join the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast for our third draft preview, focusing on whichever players they want to throw out as options for the Browns when they go on the clock next week.

Tim and Lance throw out two players and a sleeper and discuss each player and why they like them.

Then they do a Browns only mock draft and make the Browns' first three picks. Find out who they would take if the draft fell a certain way at the end of the month.

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What did Deshaun Watson tell us about the Browns new offense?

Wed, 17 Apr 2024 23:48:21 -0000

Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson dropped some hints about the new-look offense during his press conference on Tuesday. He mentioned how it will help the wide receivers and him with new coordinator Ken Dorsey in the fold along with Kevin Stefanski.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start the Wednesday Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by discussing what Watson said about the offense and who they think will call plays.

Then they spend time talking about the secondary. Denzel Ward called it the best in the league on Tuesday while Greg Newsome II talked about how he wants to remain a part of the Browns for a long time. They get into what both players had to say.

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What we learned about Deshaun Watson's injury on Tuesday

Wed, 17 Apr 2024 04:51:41 -0000

We heard from Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson on Tuesday during the Browns' first media availability of the of team's offseason program. Watson, Kevin Stefanski and Denzel Ward all spoke.

Our focus on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast is Watson, who spoke about his injury and about his plan to get back to throwing during practice.

They discuss his acknowledgement that the injury could have occurred as early as Week 3 as well as him talking about patience as he moves through the rehab process.

Then they answer the question: How do you feel about Watson in 2024 after hearing him talk on Tuesday?

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3 questions for the Browns offense at start of the offseason program

Mon, 15 Apr 2024 22:43:42 -0000

The Browns are back for their offseason program, reporting to Berea on Monday for the start of the optional portion of the program. Nothing is mandatory until minicamp in June.

Like every team in the NFL, they have plenty of questions as they start to gear up for football to return and the start of training camp in July.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe use Monday’s Orange and Brown Talk Podcast to discuss three questions on the offensive side of the football.

They discuss their expectations for Deshaun Watson and when they hope to see Nick Chubb on the field again. They also look at the tackle situation and how it could shake out with three starting-caliber players on the roster.

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Which edge rushers and defensive tackles fit the Browns in the NFL Draft?

Fri, 12 Apr 2024 16:00:00 -0000

Last week, the focus of our draft podcast was on wide receivers and tight ends. This week, we're moving to the defensive side of the ball as we give you names to keep in mind when the Browns go on the clock in this year's NFL Draft.

Cleveland.com's draft expert Tim Bielik and film expert Lance Reisland join the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast for our second draft preview, focusing on edge rushers and defensive tackles.

Tim and Lance throw out two options and a sleeper at both spots and discuss each player and why they like them.

Then they do a Browns only mock draft and make the Browns' first three picks. Find out who they would take if the draft fell a certain way at the end of the month.

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Why was it so important to restructure Nick Chubb's deal? Hey, Mary Kay!

Thu, 11 Apr 2024 19:46:23 -0000

The Browns did right by star running back Nick Chubb, restructuring his contact to make sure he would be a Cleveland Brown in 2024, giving him incentives to earn back the money he gave up in the process.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start off their latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by talking about the Chubb restructure and why he means so much to this team, the fans and why they Browns couldn't had to do everything they could to bring him back.

They also discuss a possible London game for the Browns as well as an ideal draft weekend for the team and spend time on the team's quarterback room and why the addition of Tyler Huntley is interesting.

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3 concerns we have about the Browns roster

Wed, 10 Apr 2024 20:01:00 -0000

The Browns roster is in good shape with the draft approaching but, just like any other roster in the NFL, it has question marks. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss their remaining concerns with the roster and the things they're keeping an eye on.

They discuss the state of the defensive line and if there's room for the Browns to find more pass rush help. They also get into the wide receiver room and the production they expect from Jerry Jeudy and Elijah Moore plus the guys behind them.

Then they look at the linebacker position to determine if there's enough there and if it even matters that much in Jim Schwartz's scheme.

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Why it’s a good thing if the Packers go to Brazil instead of the Browns

Tue, 09 Apr 2024 20:22:19 -0000

Packers president Mark Murphy hinted heavily the Packers could be the team heading to Brazil Week 1 to take on the Eagles.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed the idea of the Browns not going to Brazil and why they think it's actually a good thing for the Browns and their fans. They discuss some of the challenges going to Brazil would present and why they seemed to be the one team that actually wanted the trip.

They also spend some more time on travel -- like how The Greenbrier will impact a normal training camp schedule instead of the extended schedule the Browns had last year. They also offer some advice to Browns fans who might want to plan a trip this season.

Which cities are the best on the schedule to visit.

They even talk a little train travel, just for fun.

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What we learned from Deshaun Watson when he spoke last week

Mon, 08 Apr 2024 18:51:59 -0000

Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson spoke last week at the opening of Lefty's Cheesesteak in University Heights covering a number of topics, including the fact he'll be ready to go Week 1.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe got caught up on Monday on what Watson covered during his media availability and what we learned from his comments at the restaurant opening.

They discuss his availability for Week 1 and what it might look like when he does take the field again. They also talk about Jameis Winston's visit to Watson in Los Angeles and why it was important and get into what Kevin Stefanski appearing on Watson's podcast means for how far Kevin has come in his four years as head coach.

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Which receivers in the draft fit the Browns? NFL Draft preview

Fri, 05 Apr 2024 16:00:00 -0000

The Browns are once again navigating a draft without a first round pick, but there are plenty of options for them in the second round and beyond to fill their needs and add depth to their roster.

Cleveland.com's NFL Draft expert Tim Bielik and film expert Lance Reisland join the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast for our first draft preview, focusing on wide receivers and tight ends.

Tim and Lance throw out two options and a sleeper at receiver and also some tight ends to keep in mind with the draft coming.

Then they do a Browns only mock draft and make their two Day 2 picks. Find out who they would take if the draft fell a certain way at the end of the month.

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What are realistic expectations for Browns receiver Elijah Moore? Hey, Mary Kay!

Thu, 04 Apr 2024 16:00:00 -0000

Wide receiver Elijah Moore had an up-and-down first season with the Browns in 2023 but showed signs of what he could be once the Browns figure out exactly how they want to use him. So what should we reasonably expect from Moore in 2024?

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Part 2 of our Hey, Mary Kay! podcast this week.

What's a fair expectation for Moore and how does the addition of Jerry Jeudy impact him this season?

They also discuss the possibility of adding a running back in the draft, NFL expansion and more.

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What is Greg Newsome II's future with the Browns? Hey, Mary Kay!

Wed, 03 Apr 2024 22:19:58 -0000

The Browns will make a decision on cornerback Greg Newsome II's fifth-year option for 2025 in the next month. The price tag for the option and the emergence of young cornerbacks on the roster has made some Browns fans wonder what Newsome's future in Cleveland might entail.

It's one of the questions Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe address on Wednesday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. They discuss whether Newsome could end up in a trade and if he'll be with the Browns beyond 2025.

They also answer questions about Deshaun Watson's time to throw and the team's receiver depth.

Check out Part 2 of this edition of the podcast on Thursday.

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Will running it back work for the Browns on defense? + Getting ready for the Women's Final Four

Tue, 02 Apr 2024 22:39:03 -0000

We still have some time before we get a look at the Browns defense in 2024, but we know most of the pieces involved as, with the exception of a few spots, they're running it back. What should we expect from them? Will they pick up where they left off or is there concern they could take a step back?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss expectations for the defense in 2024 on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. How will stability help and hurt them?

They also discuss the return of Cade York and why it's important to beef up the special teams coverage units like they did by signing Justin Hardee.

Lastly, they discuss the Women's Final Four returning to Cleveland and Ashley's experiences the last time it was here and Dan's expectations as he covers the event this weekend.

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What's next for the Browns and a potential new stadium?

Mon, 01 Apr 2024 22:28:05 -0000

Cleveland City Councilman Brian Kazy inserted himself and city council into the Browns stadium discussions on Monday, invoking the "Art Modell Law" in calling for the Browns to remain in Cleveland.

Last week, Dee and Jimmy Haslam took their turn to discuss their options when it comes to either updating or replacing Cleveland Browns Stadium.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed the Browns' stadium options on Monday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. They talked about the "Art Modell Law" and why it's coming up and how it might be used.

They also talk about a potential move to Brook Park and if it really matters if the Browns are within the city limits of Cleveland or a few minutes outside of city limits.

They even take some time to discuss some of the favorite stadiums they've visited and more.

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Previewing the Browns offseason program and keys for the offense

Fri, 29 Mar 2024 22:27:04 -0000

The offseason is flying by and we're only about two weeks away from the Cleveland Browns beginning the voluntary portion of their offseason.

In this Friday episode of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock go through the ins and outs of the offseason program that begin on April 15.

The two discuss each of the three phases and what teams can do during each as they work their way up to offense vs. defense drills

The two also discuss what they think will be the biggest story of the offseason for the Browns offense: How Deshaun Watson continues to progress post-shoulder surgery.

But it’s not just about their QB1. What will we see from new backups, Jameis Winston and Tyler Huntley? How will Winston and Watson work together?

And what about the guys catching their passes? What will Jerry Jeudy look like, and how important is his relationship with Amari Cooper going to be? Mary Kay and Ashley discuss the receivers' relationship that goes back to their native south Florida as well as their shared alma mater: Alabama.

Finally, what does Jeudy’s addition mean for returner Elijah Moore? What’s at stake for him in his second year in Cleveland?

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What's the latest news on the Browns and Nick Chubb's contract? Hey, Mary Kay!

Thu, 28 Mar 2024 20:30:11 -0000

Was there an update on star running back Nick Chubb's contract when Andrew Berry spoke at the NFL annual meetings earlier this week?

That's one of the questions our Football Insider subscribers had on Thursday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast.

Mary Kay Cabot and Ashley Bastock discuss what Berry said about a possible re-working of Nick Chubb’s contract, his rehab over the next three months, and the makeup of the Browns’ running back room.

The two also discuss the decision for the Browns to keep four quarterbacks on their roster currently, and why that has become commonplace for them.

And what about Berry’s draft strategy? The two talk about whether they think it’s more likely for the Browns GM to trade up or trade back, and they re-assess the 2023 class.

They also talk about the Browns defense, and the decision to essentially run it back without a major new addition to the defensive line. Could that lead to some more breakdowns like we saw in 2023?

Finally, they go over some of their new favorite Cleveland spots ahead of a couple of big events in Cleveland: The Women’s Final Four and the solar eclipse.

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What Andrew Berry said at the NFL annual meetings about Nick Chubb's recovery + anticipating the NFL's Brazil game announcement

Wed, 27 Mar 2024 21:51:00 -0000

On this Wednesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Ashley Bastock and Mary Kay Cabot finish recapping everything Browns-related from the NFL annual meetings in Orlando.

First, the two discuss the NFL’s impending announcement on the league’s first-ever Brazil game. Will the Browns play abroad against the Eagles to open the season or will it be the Green Bay Packers? We could know as soon as this week, but what we do know is that it's down to those two teams.

Then, they get into the big news from Browns GM Andrew Berry: How Nick Chubb’s recovery is going. Mary Kay gives some insight on the next step into Chubb’s rehab from his season-ending knee injury that required two surgeries: load running. The two also discuss how the next three months will be key in determining Chubb’s availability for the beginning of the season, and the roles of the new running backs in the room.

Amari Cooper was also a big topic of discussion for Berry, and what he had to say about the possibility of extending their No. 1 wide receiver. It seems like it’s inevitable at this point for multiple reasons, including a cap standpoint, the wide receiver market as a whole, and how valuable he has been in Cleveland.

Mary Kay and Ashley also discuss what Berry had to say about Deshaun Watson’s recovery and another indication he gave that the quarterback’s rehab from season-ending shoulder surgery is going well.

Finally, the two discuss the trade deadline moving back one week, and how it wasn’t exactly what the Browns proposed ahead of the league's annual meetings, but is still a good compromise.

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Reacting to what Browns owners Jimmy and Dee Haslam said about stadium future at the NFL annual meetings

Tue, 26 Mar 2024 23:22:59 -0000

It's the big story for the Cleveland Browns in the years to come: What's going to happen with their stadium?

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast Ashley Bastock checks in with Mary Kay Cabot from the NFL annual meetings in Orlando and discuss everything Browns owners Jimmy and Dee Haslam said regarding the possibilities of renovation and relocation.

The two discuss the change in tone from the Haslams compared to a year ago, when they said they were firmly committed to renovating Cleveland Browns stadium on the lakefront. Now, the Haslams say, they are also open to building a dome stadium in Brook Park.

Mary Kay and Ashley discuss both options and what they might mean, as well as the possible rippling impacts of both, and how neither seems to be outwardly favored over the other

In addition to the stadium's future, the two also delve into the other big topic for the Browns owners: extensions for GM Andrew Berry and head coach Kevin Stefanski that are imminent.

Finally, the two touch on what NFL commissioner Roger Goodell had to say about the NFL's first ever Brazil game, and the Browns being one of two teams in the running to face the Philadelphia Eagles abroad.

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NFL annual meetings check in: Kevin Stefanski talks Deshaun Watson's recovery, Mike Vrabel's hiring and more

Mon, 25 Mar 2024 20:38:55 -0000

The biggest question for the Browns this offseason is how Deshaun Watson's recovery is going following his season-ending shoulder surgery, so that's of course a big topic for the team as the NFL annual meetings take place in Orlando.

On this episode of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast Mary Kay Cabot checks in from those meetings with Ashley Bastock to recap everything head coach Kevin Stefanski said on Monday.

The two talk about Watson's recovery, as well as what Stefanski had to say about the meeting between himself, the quarterback, and new offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey out in L.A. They also discuss Watson beginning to throw, and what this might all mean for his timeline to return.

Stefanski still not providing an answer on playcalling duties is another topic of discussion.

Mike Vrabel's hiring also came up on Monday, and Mary Kay and Ashley discuss why he will be such a great resource for the Browns.

The two touch on the other big player who suffered a season-ending injury, talking the latest on Nick Chubb rehabbing from the gruesome knee injury that ended his 2023 campaign in Week 2.

Finally, Mary Kay previews what Browns owners Jimmy and Dee Haslam will get asked on Monday evening.

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Are extensions coming for Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski and GM Andrew Berry? Hey, Mary Kay!

Fri, 22 Mar 2024 20:02:38 -0000

The Browns are well into the offseason and we're still waiting on word of extensions for head coach Kevin Stefanski and GM Andrew Berry. Are they coming soon?

That's one of the questions our Football Insider subscribers had on Friday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss the potential for extensions and if they're coming soon -- and why they should.

They also discuss the state of the roster as compared to last season and what it tells us about how the Browns view their outlook this season as well as an early look at the AFC North and a discussion about how Berry's approach to free agency has changed.

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Questions for Browns coach Kevin Stefanski, GM Andrew Berry and owners Dee and Jimmy Haslam

Thu, 21 Mar 2024 22:35:22 -0000

The NFL's annual meeting is taking place next week and we're looking ahead by coming up with one question each for members of the Browns -- head coach Kevin Stefanski, GM Andrew Berry and owners Dee and Jimmy Haslam.

They start with one question each for Stefanski regarding Deshaun Watson, Jameis Winston and Mike Vrabel.

For Berry, they discuss Nick Chubb's future, the acquistion of Winston and Plan B at quarterback.

For the Haslams, they're talking about the decision to bring in Winston, the future of the stadium and extensions.

Check out the questions they would ask and the ensuing discussions about why they matter on Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast.

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First impressions of new Browns quarterback Jameis Winston

Thu, 21 Mar 2024 00:38:16 -0000

The Browns introduced backup quarterback Jameis Winston on a Zoom call on Wednesday after he officially signed his contract.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe all participated in the call and they discussed what they heard from Winston on Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. They discuss how Winston will be able to help Watson on and off the field and the reasons Winston is such a good fit as a player who can help guide Watson through his comeback this season.

Then they spend more time on the extension the Browns gave to wide receiver Jerry Jeudy. Why did the Browns feel the need to do the extension so soon? Why did they not do the same with Elijah Moore after they made the trade for him last offseason?

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Revisiting the Browns trade for Deshaun Watson two years later + Jerry Jeudy gets an extension

Tue, 19 Mar 2024 21:03:41 -0000

Monday marked the two-year anniversary of the Browns trading for quarterback Deshaun Watson, a defining moment for the franchise. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe looked back on the deal and where things stand now.

Are the Browns better off at the quarterback position or still in the same place they were before the deal? Are Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski safe regardless of how this trade plays out? Were there other options that would have been better and would the Browns have made the trade again? They dig into the whole thing on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast.

Then, Mary Kay and Dan discuss the extension the Browns gave to wide receiver Jerry Jeudy, who they acquired this offseason and why they decided to do this extension now.

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Why did the Browns sign Tyler Huntley? What does it mean for the quarterback room?

Mon, 18 Mar 2024 17:53:47 -0000

The Browns are adding former Ravens backup Tyler Huntley to their quarterback room. He joins Deshaun Watson, Jameis Winston and Dorian Thompson-Robinson as the team's four quarterbacks with the offseason program approaching.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed all the angles of the Huntley addition on Monday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast.

Is there any reason to be concerned about Winston's status? What does this mean about Watson's comeback from his injury? What about Thompson-Robinson's future? Why didn't the Browns bring back Joshua Dobbs over Huntley?

Then they spend some time on the Steelers' new-look quarterback room and discuss the Browns adding Mike Vrabel as a consultant.

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What grade do the Browns get in free agency so far? Hey, Mary Kay!

Fri, 15 Mar 2024 22:00:00 -0000

The first week of free agency has been good to the Browns so far. They added a wide receiver via trade a few days before things got started and then proceeded to solidify their defensive front and linebacking corps while brining back key pieces.

What grade do they get so far? It’s the first question Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer on Friday’s Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast.

They also talk about the impact Jerry Jeudy could have as well as the status of certain contract restructures as the free agency period continues.

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First impressions of the Browns new free agent additions

Thu, 14 Mar 2024 23:07:38 -0000

The Browns continued adding to their defense on Thursday in free agency, agreeing to deals with defensive lineman Quinton Jefferson and signing linebacker Devin Bush.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe started their Thursday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by discussing those two additions to the defense. Can Bush resurrect his career here? How does Jefferson fit on the defensive line?

Then they react to what they heard from two of the Browns' free agent signings on Zoom. Both Jerry Jeudy and Jordan Hicks met with the media and they talk about what stood out from each player and their first impressions of two of the Browns' first signees.

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Will the Browns add another significant defensive lineman?

Wed, 13 Mar 2024 23:46:01 -0000

The Browns' first-wave of free agency included bringing back Za'Darius Smith to reteam him and Myles Garrett on the defensive line. They also brought back Mo Hurst II and Shelby Harris, two important depth players on the line.

Is there a big name coming on the defensive line or will they focus on developing young players on the roster and adding through the draft? Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by discussing the defensive line.

They also talk about Mike Williams, who was released by the Chargers on Wednesday, and if the Browns should pursue him.

Lastly, they discuss the linebacker room and bring up some signings and departures flying under the radar.

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Why did the Browns choose Jameis Winston over Joe Flacco?

Wed, 13 Mar 2024 00:39:06 -0000

The Browns caught nearly everyone off guard when they pivoted and chose Jameis Winston over Joe Flacco as their backup quarterback this season. Winston joins the Browns after being the backup in New Orleans.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe dig into the Browns decision and how it ended up with Winston as the guy to back up Deshaun Watson.

They discuss what they believe went into the decision and what prompted the Browns to make this decision. Is it a better scheme fit than Flacco?

They also talk about whether the Browns considered the reaction if Watson struggled with Flacco sitting on the bench -- and if they should have.

Then they discuss Winston's off-field issues at Florida State and early in his career and how fans might react to him before they talk about Winston's personality and what he brings as the backup.

They end the pod by trying to figure out what might be next for Flacco.

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Why Jerry Jeudy was the right move for the Browns and will Russell Wilson work in Pittsburgh?

Mon, 11 Mar 2024 16:16:58 -0000

The Browns will acquire wide receiver Jerry Jeudy from Broncos when the NFL's new league year begins on Wednesday at 4 p.m. They are giving up a fifth and sixth round pick for the receiver.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe react to the trade in Part 1 of their Browns free agency podcast on Monday.

They discuss why the trade made sense for the Browns and what Jeudy brings to the team's wide receiver room. What impact will Amari Cooper have on him? How does he fit in the offense? Why make this move now?

They also discuss Russell Wilson signing with the Steelers and what it means for the AFC North. Will Wilson revive his career in Pittsburgh? Does it make the Steelers a contender?

Then they make some predictions that are sure to age poorly given the timing of this podcast.

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Will Joe Flacco come back to the Browns? Hey, Mary Kay!

Thu, 07 Mar 2024 17:54:32 -0000

The buzz is building for Joe Flacco to return to the Browns this season, but will it happen?

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start Thursday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing if Flacco could actually come back to Cleveland? Why are he and his agent putting it out there how much he wants to come back? How could his return impact Deshaun Watson? Are there starting opportunities out there for him?

They also talk about if there's a chance Dorian Thompson-Robinson could end up as the backup.

Then they answer questions about free agency and the lack of contract restructures so far. Could the Browns end up having a relatively quiet offseason?

They wrap up by discussing potential extensions for Kevin Stefanski and Andrew Berry.

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Why it's a make-or-break year for Deshaun Watson and more Browns takes

Thu, 07 Mar 2024 01:14:16 -0000

The Broncos decided to take on a bunch of dead money and move on from Russell Wilson earlier this week. Could the Browns find themselves in the same boat a year from now?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe used Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast to react to Browns hot takes from our Football Insider subscribers and they start off by discussing if it's possible the Browns could find themselves in a similar spot to Denver in 12 months.

They also discuss whether the Browns got fleeced by the Texans in the Watson trade or if the jury is still out on the deal.

Then it's their attempt to predict the Browns quarterback room at the start of training camp and more.

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Which free agent wide receiver makes the most sense for the Browns?

Tue, 05 Mar 2024 22:26:44 -0000

The Browns will embark on another free agency period under GM Andrew Berry next week and there are going to be opportunities to upgrade. Mary Kay Cabot wrote about what to expect from the Browns in free agency on Tuesday and we discussed it on the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast.

We started with receivers and touched on some names we haven't talked about much this offseason, going over some of our favorites for them to sign this offseason, including one who could become available and is very familiar with Deshaun Watson.

They also discuss the move at edge rusher and what they can do to find the right player to pair with Myles Garrett.

They wrap up the podcast by making the case for re-signing one of the Browns own free agents.

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How should we view the Deshaun Watson contract after two years? Can he live up to it?

Mon, 04 Mar 2024 22:36:11 -0000

The Browns signed Deshaun Watson to a 5-year, $230 million contract after acquiring him in a trade in 2022. We're two years into the deal and Watson has played 12 games and the Browns have played in, and lost, a single playoff game.

It's safe to say things haven't exactly worked out.

How should we view the Watson contract now with three years left and as many questions remaining now as there were two offseasons ago? Can he ever live up to it and can the Browns still make this work if he doesn't?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their Monday Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by discussing Watson's contract and how the Browns can make it work with him.

Then they talk some free agency. Should the Browns go after Christian Wilkins? What's the latest on Joe Flacco? How does Mike Evans staying in Tampa Bay impact their plans?

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How will the Browns approach free agency? Hey, Mary Kay!

Sat, 02 Mar 2024 18:18:55 -0000

The NFL combine is in the rearview mirror (kind of) and we’re onto NFL free agency and the start of the new league year in a little under two weeks. The Browns have some work to do to free up money, but they’ll figure it out and be ready to spend.

What will they do in free agency? It’s one of the questions on the Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe answer listener-submitted questions on today’s edition of the podcast. They discuss free agency, the draft and even get into the Johnny Manziel-Brian Hoyer dustup.

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Free agent strategy, trading picks and more leftover thoughts from the NFL combine

Fri, 01 Mar 2024 21:06:15 -0000

The NFL combine is still going on in Indianapolis but we heard from Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski and GM Andrew Berry earlier this week and while they didn’t give up much as far as draft and free agency strategy are concerned, there’s still plenty there to pick over.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe offered up some of their lingering thoughts from this week’s press conferences and what they took away from listening to the Browns braintrust speak on today’s Orange and Brown Talk Podcast.

They discuss free agency and what the Browns still need to add as well as what Berry might do with his second round pick before they get into the offensive tackle position and how it will be divvied up.

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Why Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski should call plays again in 2024

Thu, 29 Feb 2024 00:38:03 -0000

Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski spoke at the NFL combine on Wednesday and once again declined to say who will call the plays this season: him or new offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their Wednesday combine recap podcast by discussing why Stefanski should hang onto his playcalling duties, even with Dorsey in the fold.

They also discuss Stefanski and Dorsey traveling to Los Angeles to meet with Deshaun Watson and why it’s important before they revisit the topic of going back to The Greenbrier and Stefanski’s explanation for making the decision to return to West Virginia to start training camp.

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How close is Deshaun Watson to being back? + free agents, The Greenbrier and the trade deadline

Wed, 28 Feb 2024 00:24:42 -0000

Browns general manager Andrew Berry spoke at the NFL combine on Tuesday and confirmed Deshaun Watson will begin throwing next month.

That's where Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start on the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. How will the Browns pace themselves with Watson and why is this so significant?

Then they talk about the pending free agency of Za'Darius Smith and Joe Flacco. Will either be back?

They also discuss the team's decision to go back to The Greenbrier and why they're doing it again as well as the possibility of opening the season in Brazil against the Eagles.

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D-line and O-line fits for the Browns in the NFL Draft with Lance Reisland

Mon, 26 Feb 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns, once again, won't go on the clock in the NFL Draft until Friday and they will be hunting for value on Day 2 to fill some of their needs. Over the next two Orange and Brown Talk podcasts, we're getting you ready for the NFL combine and the draft with our film expert Lance Reisland.

Next up, we take a look at the offensive and defensive linemen who could land in the Browns' range. Lance goes through his Top 4 guys at both positions and offers a sleeper for the Browns, too. He also explains why he identified offensive line as one of the Browns' top needs.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe get the names and go through some of their questions about each guy.

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Receivers that fit the Browns in the NFL Draft with Lance Reisland

Sat, 24 Feb 2024 05:01:00 -0000

First up, we take a look at the wide receivers who could land in the Browns' range. Lance goes through his Top 4 guys at the wide receiver position and offers a sleeper for the Browns, too.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe get the names and go through some of their questions about each guy.

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What one move would you make if you were Browns GM for a day? Hey, Mary Kay!

Thu, 22 Feb 2024 22:32:00 -0000

The NFL offseason kicks into gear in earnest next week when the NFL world descends on Indianapolis for the combine. Rumors will start to fly and that includes what the Browns might do.

What would Mary Kay Cabot do if she were Browns GM? It was one of the questions posed on Thursday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast.

Mary Kay talks with Dan Labbe about what she would do if she could make one move as Browns GM and they throw around the idea of adding a big-name wide receiver and how the Browns could make it work under the cap.

They also talk about the Browns draft history at receiver, the status of extensions for Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski, the upside of David Njoku and more.

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What to believe -- and not believe -- about the Browns in NFL's silly season

Wed, 21 Feb 2024 23:00:00 -0000

Deshaun Watson to the Giants? Nick Chubb a cap casualty? All of these things have been floated out there in the last couple weeks.

So, what should we believe and not believe about the Browns and potential roster moves? Why does this happen this time of year?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about the NFL's silly season on Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. Is there anything to be gleaned from these rumors? Why are the Browns one of the teams we always seem to hear about?

They discuss Watson and how the Browns view him before they get into Chubb and if there really could be a scenario where the Browns make the decision to move on from their star running back.

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Building a Browns offseason BINGO card: What we'll see and hear over the next 4 months

Tue, 20 Feb 2024 23:00:00 -0000

The NFL's offseason gets kicked off in full next week when the entire NFL world convenes in Indianapolis for the combine. We'll hear from Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski and GM Andrew Berry and the draft process really kicks off in earnest.

To officially kick off the next few months of offseason content, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe put together and offseason BINGO board. What do we think we're going to see and hear between now and the end of the offseason program in mid-June?

They throw out 24 things for the board and give their reasoning. What questions could be asked? What answers could be given? What could be tweeted? They make their guesses on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk podcast

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Do the Browns have a surprise in store for this offseason?

Mon, 19 Feb 2024 22:35:21 -0000

The Browns will have money to spend this offseason and will again look to make big moves as they try to get to and win a Super Bowl. Do they have a big surprise lined up for the offseason?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe answered fill-in-the-blank and true or false questions from Football Insider subscribers on Monday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. The first one asked what they think the biggest surprise of the offseason will be.

They also get into if they believe Ken Dorsey can help make Deshaun Watson a Top 10 quarterback in 2024 and look ahead to figure out how long the leash is on judging if the remade offense is a success.

Lastly, they get into what they've been watching in this young NFL offseason.

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Defining moment, biggest miss, best and worst acquisitions: Browns 2023 season awards Part 2

Fri, 16 Feb 2024 22:15:10 -0000

The Browns had a season to remember in 2023, going 11-6 and making the playoffs, and we’re handing out our annual Orange and Brown Talk awards on today’s podcast.

Today' it's Part 2 of the awards show. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe hand out the best and worst roster moves, the defining moment of the season and the biggest miss of the season.

They also discuss the player most likely to break out in the 2024 season.

Check out who they nominated and who they voted as the winners on our weekend podcast.

Check out Part 1 of the awards show here.

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What can the Browns learn from the Chiefs after their Super Bowl win?

Fri, 16 Feb 2024 01:00:22 -0000

We've talked all week about how the Browns are chasing not only their division rivals in the Ravens but other top teams in the AFC, too, namely the Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs. Of course the discussion starts with Patrick Mahomes, but there are other factors that went in to Kansas City winning this Super Bowl.

What lessons can the Browns learn from the Chiefs after another championship?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe went through three things the Browns can take away from Andy Reid, Mahomes and Co. on Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast.

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Why the Browns will -- or won't -- get to the Super Bowl next year

Wed, 14 Feb 2024 22:28:00 -0000

Any discussion of making the Super Bowl starts with the quarterback position, but there's a whole lot else that goes into a team making it to and winning the Super Bowl.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe use Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast to talk about the factors -- negative and positive -- that could play a role in the Browns getting a shot to raise the Lombardi Trophy in New Orleans a year from now.

They go over the players on the roster who give them a chance, like Myles Garrett. They discuss the idea of running it back on defense and how the Browns might shake things up. They get into the schedule and the challenges posed by it as well as reasons for regression and reasons there might not be regression.

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How does Deshaun Watson get to the level the Browns need him to reach? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 13 Feb 2024 22:36:54 -0000

It has never been more clear than after this Super Bowl that the Browns need Deshaun Watson to return to the level he was at before they acquired him in a blockbuster trade in 2022. Watson has played in just 12 games for the Browns and we have only seen glimpses of the player he was in Houston.

How does he get there? It's one of the questions our Football Insider subscribers had on Tuesday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe talk Watson, whether the Browns could have competed in this year's Super Bowl, potential roster casualties as the offseason approaches and even a little Taylor Swift-Travis Kelce. (Don't tell Ashley.)

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How will the Browns get past Patrick Mahomes + Winners and losers from Super Bowl LVIII

Mon, 12 Feb 2024 21:05:12 -0000

The Chiefs are Super Bowl champions and Patrick Mahomes will add another ring to his collection after beating the 49ers, 25-22.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to the Super Bowl on Monday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast and framed what they saw in a Browns lens.

Of course it starts with Mahomes and the reality that if the Browns want to get to the Super Bowl for the first time, they have to go through Mahomes, who continues to thwart good teams with big dreams. Are the Browns equipped to do it?

Then they discuss some winners and losers from the game before they spend time talking about Cleveland Heights native Travis Kelce.

They also talk commercials, halftime and more.

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Super Bowl LVIII: Matchups, prop bets and picks for 49ers vs. Chiefs

Sat, 10 Feb 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Kansas City Chiefs and San Francisco 49ers square off Sunday in Super Bowl LVIII. It's a game with legacies on the line and a chance for some members of the 49ers to make up for a missed opportunity a few years ago.

Dan Labbe is joined by cleveland.com's film expert Lance Reisland to preview the game. Lance discusses how each side can win this game and the matchups he's watching.

Then Tyler Shoemaker joins to discuss the game from a betting angle. Where's the value in the line, the total and moneyline and are there any prop bets he likes? Dan wraps up the show by offering up some of his favorite prop bets.

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Browns clean up at NFL Honors: Myles Garrett, Joe Flacco, Kevin Stefanski and Jim Schwartz all win awards

Fri, 09 Feb 2024 19:34:19 -0000

The Browns saw their season end long before they wanted it to end, but they got some consolation on Thursday night at the NFL Honors show. They took home all four awards they had a nominee for.

Myles Garrett won Defensive Player of the Year, Kevin Stefanski won Coach of the Year, Joe Flacco won Comeback Player of the Year and Jim Schwartz was named Assistant Coach of the Year.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the night and the Browns big victories in Las Vegas They spend time on Garrett finally winning the award he's been seeking, Stefanski winning his award for the second time in four years, Flacco's ride to his award and what Schwartz meant to this team.

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Will Myles Garrett bring home Defensive Player of the Year? + Browns have a new O-line coach

Thu, 08 Feb 2024 02:30:50 -0000

The Browns have a new offensive line coach in Andy Dickerson, the man they've tabbed to replace Bill Callahan, who left for Tennessee to work for his son.

Mary Kay Cabot checks in from Las Vegas to talk about the addition of Dickerson and his ability to step into the giant shoes left by Callahan.

Then Mary Kay and Dan Labbe discuss Kevin Stefanski calling plays and why they both agree it's the right thing for him to do if he decides to keep the role.

Ashley Bastock joins them in the second half of the podcast to preview NFL Honors. Myles Garrett, Kevin Stefanski, Jim Schwartz and Joe Flacco are all up for awards on Thursday night. Who will win and who would be the most surprising if they didn't? They preview the night.

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Where do things stand with the Deshaun Watson trade after two seasons? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 06 Feb 2024 23:00:00 -0000

Mary Kay Cabot is off to Las Vegas for the Super Bowl, but first she took time to record a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast with Dan Labbe.

They start the podcast by getting into what Mary Kay hopes to accomplish each year when she goes to the Super Bowl and what she's looking for when she's there. Then they get into listener questions.

They start with a question about the Browns potentially playing their opening game in Brazil against the Eagles and if it could really happen.

Then they answer questions about Deshaun Watson. When will he throw again and will he be ready in the spring? How do we judge the trade two years in and does Baker Mayfield's success this season chnge how we view it?

They also talk about potential cap casualties and if there are any as the Browns manage their roster this offseason.

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What we learned from Browns OC Ken Dorsey's introductory press conference

Mon, 05 Feb 2024 21:46:29 -0000

The Browns introduced new offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey on Wednesday in a press conference at the team’s headquarters in Berea. Dorsey takes over for Alex Van Pelt, who was let go earlier this offseason and is now the offensive coordinator in New England.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed what they heard from Dorsey following Monday’s press conference.

They get into who will call plays and if it even matters. Then they talked about what Dorsey’s hire means for Deshaun Watson and what their expectations are for him in his new role. They also discuss how they think Dorsey will coach Watson.

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Browns 2023 season awards Part 1: Who is the MVP, most disappointing and more?

Fri, 02 Feb 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns had a season to remember in 2023, going 11-6 adn making the playoffs, and we’re handing out our annual Orange and Brown Talk awards on today’s podcast.

In Part 1 of the awards show, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe hand out the MVP, most disappointing player, rookie of the year and most improved player.

They make their nominations for each award and then decide who should get the award for the 2023 season. They also take a look at who our Football Insider subscribers nominated for various awards.

They’ll be back with Part 2 of the awards show soon.

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What is Ken Dorsey bringing to Cleveland? What happened in Buffalo?

Thu, 01 Feb 2024 00:59:02 -0000

The Browns are set to hire Ken Dorsey as their new offensive coordinator as they try to jumpstart Deshaun Watson's career and try to move their offense forward. On Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk, we dive into the Dorsey hire.

Our film expert, Lance Reisland, joins the show to talk about what he's seeing while watching Dorsey's time as a playcaller in Buffalo. What has he learned about his scheme and what will he bring to the Browns.

Then Matt Parrino, Bills beat writer for Syracuse.com, joins the show. He talks about what happened with Dorsey and why he was fired during the season. He also talks about how Dorsey helped Josh Allen develop as his quarterbacks coach and then his coordinator and discussed Dorsey as a playcaller.

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Should the Browns pursue Tee Higgins? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 30 Jan 2024 22:18:46 -0000

The Browns have a clear need at wide receiver and it just so happens there's a receiver who played a few hours down I-71 slated to hit free agency this offseason.

One of our Football Insider questions wondered what the Browns might do at receiver this season on Tuesday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast and it leads to a discussion about Bengals wide receiver Tee Higgins and if the Browns could steal him away from their division rival.

First, they answer questions about new offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey and his role and what he brings to the offense. They also talk about the team's strength of schedule next season, the possibility of restructuring contracts and more.

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Why did the Browns choose Ken Dorsey as their offensive coordinator?

Mon, 29 Jan 2024 21:13:46 -0000

The Browns hired former Bills offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey as their offensive coordinator. He takes over for Alex Van Pelt as the Browns look to remake the offensive side of the ball around Deshaun Watson.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped the decision to hire Dorsey and what it all means for the offense as the offensive side of the ball evolves.

They discuss whether Kevin Stefanski will give up playcalling or if Dorsey will slide into more of a role similar to Van Pelt. They also discuss why they think Dorsey got fired in Buffalo and if there’s concern that he did get fired or if he was the scapegoat.

They also recap what they saw in the AFC and NFC championship games.

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Picking pieces from the championship teams to add to the Browns

Fri, 26 Jan 2024 23:00:53 -0000

The Browns were hoping they would be playing this weekend. Instead, their division rival, the Ravens, will host the Chiefs and the Lions are the team looking to break a Super Bowl drought when they travel to San Francisco.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe preview the weekend by picking something from each of the participants they’d like to see on the Browns. What do the Ravens, Chiefs, 49ers and Lions all have that the Browns don’t -- or that the Browns still need to develop.

They wrap up the podcast by making their picks for Sunday’s games.

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What does it mean if Kevin Stefanski gives up playcalling?

Thu, 25 Jan 2024 23:05:36 -0000

The Browns offensive coordinator search took another step on Thursday when they requested permission to interview Chargers offensive coordinator Kellen Moore, an indication Kevin Stefanski could give up playcalling.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their Thursday podcast by discussing the potential hire of Moore, who is interviewing on Friday, and what it means if Stefanski does give up playcalling. What are the pros and cons?

They also discuss the hire of Duce Staley and the potential replacement of Ben Bloom as defensive line coach.

They end the podcast by going over what they've been watching since the season ended.

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Will Browns edge rusher Myles Garrett finally win Defensive Player of the Year?

Wed, 24 Jan 2024 23:08:38 -0000

Browns edge rusher Myles Garrett won the PFWA's Defenive Player of the Year award on Wednesday, another indication he is on track to winning the NFL's official award at NFL Honors on February 8.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by talking about Garrett winning this award and why he has the momentum to finally win it in a year when his sack production was down.

Then they talk coaching hires -- recorded prior to Duce Staley news breaking -- and the latest on the offensive coordinator and how long this could play out as the Browns seek to shake up their offensive staff.

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Who should the Browns hire as offensive coordinator? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 23 Jan 2024 23:22:12 -0000

The Browns offensive coordinator search is ongoing and it's front of mind for our Football Insider subscribers. It's where we start our latest Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe spend the podcast answering questions from subscribers about their favorite choices for offensive coordinator and some names they haven't interviewed as well as what they're looking for in the hire.

They also discuss Bill Callahan's future and if he could leave to join his son's coaching staff in Tennessee before they turn their attention to the roster. Would they have an interest in Bengals receiver Tee Higgins in free agency?

They also discuss Kevin Stefanski and if he'll get an extension soon.

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Deshaun Watson and Joe Flacco can coexist on the Browns and more reaction to Andrew Berry's press conference

Tue, 23 Jan 2024 02:59:38 -0000

Browns GM Andrew Berry had his season-ending press conference on Monday and turned the page to the 2024 season after the Browns' magical 2023 run ended in disappointing fashion.

Berry discussed everything from Deshaun Watson to Joe Flacco to Nick Chubb to Kevin Stefanski and more. He was more forthcoming than he's been in the past (it's all relative) and offered up a few nuggets along the way.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to Berry's press conference on Monday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. They discuss how Watson and Flacco can share a quarterback room and how Berry framed the Watson trade. They discuss the future of Chubb and how the Browns can keep him in Cleveland. They even react to Brian Callahan's hiring in Tennessee and if his father, Bill, the Browns' offensive line coach, could follow him.

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Digging deep into the defense, the turnovers and more from the Browns loss in Houston

Fri, 19 Jan 2024 05:01:00 -0000

It's been almost a week since the Browns lost to the Texans in the wild card round, 45-14, a stunning end to their season. Lance Reisland joins the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast on Friday to dig into the tape and discuss what he saw and why the Browns lost.

Lance and Dan Labbe talk about why C.J. Stroud and Bobby Slowik were able to take advantage of the Browns defense, especially in the first half, and why it was so hard for the Browns to slow the Texans offense.

They also look at Joe Flacco's back-to-back pick-sixes and what went wrong on those.

Lance also discusses what he believes the Browns' biggest need is this offseason before he poses his question of the week leading into a three-round draft of iconic duos.

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Browns shake up their coaching staff: What's next for the offense?

Thu, 18 Jan 2024 04:18:26 -0000

The Browns made waves on Wednesday when they moved on from offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt, running backs coach Stump Mitchell and tight ends coach T.C. McCartney. They are now in the hunt for a new offensive coordinator and more as Deshaun Watson prepares to return to the field.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by looking at the reasons the Browns shook up thier offensive staff and where they go from here. What are they looking for in a new offensive coordinator.

How much does this have to do with Watson? Why are Mitchell and McCartney gone while other assistants are staying?

They also discuss potential shakeups on the defensive side of the football and what they are looking for in a possible new defensive line coach.

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3 predictions for the Browns offseason

Wed, 17 Jan 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns will have some roster decisions to make once the NFL’s offseason really gets going. They have questions on both sides of the ball that need answered, decisions to make on contracts and then there’s the draft.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe used Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk Podcast to make their predictions for what could happen this offseason.

They each offer one prediction, spending time on the quarterback position, the wide receiver room and the offensive line. They discuss each one and figure out whether they like or dislike the prediction for what the Browns could do.

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Why did Houston have so much success against the Browns defense? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 16 Jan 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns were upset by the Texans, 45-14, in the wild card round on Saturday and Browns fans are still trying to figure out exactly what happened to the defense.

It's where Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start on Tuesday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. What did the Texans do to expose the Browns top-ranked defense?

They also discuss the culture the Browns built this year and if it's sustainable heading into next season.

In the second half of the podcast, they spend time talking about Myles Garrett's performance in the game and what he said after. They also talk about the Browns' most glaring needs as they head into the offseason and the areas they should focus on as they look ahead to the 2024 season.

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What went wrong for the Browns in Houston? Postgame podcast

Sun, 14 Jan 2024 06:45:50 -0000

The Browns started their playoff run with a dud and now it’s over. They fell to Houston in the wild card round, 45-14, and their promising season came to an end before they could even start a playoff run.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe recapped the loss on the Orange and Brown Talk Postgame podcast from NRG Stadium in Houston.

They start the podcast by discussing the performance of the defense. What happened to allow C.J. Stroud to dice them up? How disappointing was this performance?

Then they talk Joe Flacco and the end of his magical run as the team’s starting quarterback.

Lastly, they get into the missed opportunity this game represents and if they can make a similar run next season.

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Browns at Texans preview: Things to watch, best bets and game picks for Saturday's wild card game

Fri, 12 Jan 2024 05:01:00 -0000

It's finally playoff time. The Browns return to the postseason for the first time since the 2020 season and they will travel to Houston to take on the Texans at NRG Stadium on Saturday at 4:30 p.m.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Friday’s preview podcast by getting into what they're watching, starting with expectations for Joe Flacco, what the defense has in store for the Texans and C.J. Stroud making his playoff debut.

Lance Reisland joins the show to break down the film on Stroud and the Texans and how the Browns will match up with him and what the Texans can do to disrupt the Browns.

Tyler Shoemaker gives his picks for this game and goes through all of this week's wild card games to see if there is value to be found in some of the lines and totals.

Then Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan make their picks for Saturday’s game between the Browns and Texans and how far they think the Browns will go in the playoffs.

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Browns defense getting healthy + 3 reasons the Browns might not make a deep run

Thu, 11 Jan 2024 05:01:00 -0000

Browns safety Grant Delpit was designated to return from IR on Wednesday and it's good news for a defense that's getting healthier as the playoffs approach.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the potential return of Delpit as well as updates on Amari Cooper and Myles Garrett on Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast.

Then they take the opposite approach to their Wednesday podcast and look at three reasons the Browns might not make a run to the Super Bowl this season. Each of them offers up something that could get in the Browns way as they try to get to Las Vegas.

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3 reasons the Browns can make it to the Super Bowl + Lance Reisland's favorite players to watch this season

Wed, 10 Jan 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns make their return to the playoffs on Saturday afternoon when they travel to Houston to face the Texans. Everyone’s thinking big for this team now that Joe Flacco is here and slinging the football all over the place.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe open Wednesday’s podcast by coming up with three reasons the Browns can make it all the way to the Super Bowl in Las Vegas.

Thne Lance Reisland joins the show for his weekly film breakdown, starting with which young players stood out in the Browns’ Week 18 loss to the Bengals. He also discusses what Flacco and Amari Cooper did well in the first matchup with Houston and his favorite player to watch on tape this season on offense and defense.

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What should we expect from the Browns in the playoffs? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 09 Jan 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns will open the playoffs on Saturday afternoon in Houston against the Texans. It will mark their return to the playoffs for the first time in three years.

Some fans are nervous. They've been let down before and they're worried about being let down again. That's one of the topics Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discussed on Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast.

They also get into Joe Flacco's future with the team and what it looks like if he comes back. They also answer questions about their favorite moment of the season, their worst and the best meals they've had on the road.

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Browns gearing up for a Texans rematch: Postgame podcast

Mon, 08 Jan 2024 02:24:17 -0000

The Browns lost to the Bengals on Sunday but there's no way we're talking about that game on our postgame Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. We're on to Houston and that's what we're focusing on as the Browns get ready for wild card weekend.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk all things Browns-Texans on the podcast from Paycor Stadium in Cincinnati.

They talk about the difference of having C.J. Stroud at quarterback for Houston and some of the Texans defenders who could be returning.

They also talk about the turnovers that have plagued the Browns and if they could finally come back to bite them and discuss how they think the matchup could shake out.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Browns at Bengals preview: Things to watch, best bets and game picks

Fri, 05 Jan 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns wrap up the regular season on Sunday in Cincinnati. Jeff Driskel will start at quarterback in place of Joe Flacco as they look ahead to their wild card matchup next weekend.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Friday’s Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast by discussing their takeaways from this regular season as the finale approaches.

Lance Reisland joins the show to break down the film on the Driskel and Bengals quarterback Jake Browning as well as who he's looking forward to seeing on Sunday.

Tyler Shoemaker gives his picks for the game and leaguewide as he tries to navigate a tricky week.

Then Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan make their picks for Sunday’s game between the Browns and Bengals.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Which Browns players got snubbed for the Pro Bowl?

Thu, 04 Jan 2024 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns are sending five players to the Pro Bowl in Orlando and six more are alternates for the games. Were there any players left off who should be going? Should any of the alternates be regulars?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk about the Browns players who made the Pro Bowl as well as if they believe some of the alternates should have made it as regulars. They also discuss if there’s anyone who got left off who should have made it.

They also talk about Kevin Stefanski’s decision to rest some starters on Sunday in Cincinnati, including starting quarterback Joe Flacco, as they look ahead to wild card weekend the following week.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Which starters should play on Sunday: Hey, Mary Kay! + Lance Reisland on the win over the Jets

Tue, 02 Jan 2024 23:53:52 -0000

The Browns have a decision to make this week -- that's not much of a decision -- in deciding who should and shouldn't play on Sunday in Cincinnati. Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start a Hey, Mary Kay! segment of Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by discussing who shouldn't see the field at all.

They also discuss if Joe Flacco could come back to the Browns next season, who they'd rather see in the Browns play in the wild card round and more.

Then Lance Reisland joins the show to break down the Jets film. They talk about the two undrafted safeties, the receivers behind Amari Cooper and Elijah Moore and what to watch for in a meaningless game on Sunday.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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5 minutes on the Browns win over the Jets

Sat, 30 Dec 2023 17:30:35 -0000

The Browns beat the Jets on Thursday Night Football to clinch a playoff berth. Here is the audio from their postgame video.

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The 9 people most responsible for the Browns making the playoffs

Sat, 30 Dec 2023 15:30:26 -0000

The Browns clinched the playoffs on Thursday night with a 37-20 win over the Jets, returning to the postseason for the first time since 2020.

Plenty of people deserve credit for this run by a team ravaged with injuries. On Friday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe come up with nine people who are most responsible for the Browns being where they are right now. They do it the only way they know how, too: with a draft.

They go through the list of players, coaches and more who deserve the credit for this and list some of their honorable mention picks, too, after they realize they left off a lot of people.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Browns vs. Jets preview: Things to watch, best bets and game picks for Thursday Night Football

Wed, 27 Dec 2023 21:23:40 -0000

The Browns are back home and they have a chance to clinch their first playoff berth since 2020 and they can do it with the entire football world watching on Thursday Night Football.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start today’s Orange and Brown Talk preview podcast by discussing what to watch Thursday when the Browns host the Jets. They also discuss how Jets fans should be outraged their team didn't call Joe Flacco.

Lance Reisland joins the show to break down the film on the Jets, their defense and his favorite quarterbacks.

Tyler Shoemaker gives his picks for the game and advice about how to bet the game as well as his favorite and least favorite bets on the NFL schedule, his latest rankings and more.

Then Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan make their picks for Thursday’s game between the Browns and Jets.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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How the Browns are dealing with injuries in their kicking game

Tue, 26 Dec 2023 23:44:00 -0000

The Browns just keep getting more bad injury news and now it's impacting their kicking game.

Like they have so many other podcasts this season, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk with injury news. This time, it's Dustin Hopkins being week-to-week with a hamstring injury and missing Thursday night's game against the Jets.

Then they move on to punter Corey Bojorquez. There's no word yet on if he'll miss Thursday's game, but they get into why that's important.

Next, it's the Dorian Thompson-Robinson injury. He's on injured reserve now.

Just to break things up, they wrap up by discussing whether Joe Flacco is a gunslinger or not.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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How the Browns have managed to get one win away from the playoffs: Postgame podcast

Mon, 25 Dec 2023 05:04:43 -0000

The Browns beat the Texans, 36-22, at NRG Stadium on Christmas Eve. The win left them with a win-and-in scenario on Thursday night against the Jets.

They start the podcast by discussing how the Browns ended up in this spot after two straight seasons of being eliminated by the time they played their Week 17 game. What has allowed them to get this far and land on the doorstep of making the playoffs.

Then they discuss the connection between Joe Flacco and Amari Cooper on a record-breaking day.

They wrap up the podcast by talking about the injury to Dustin Hopkins and where things might go in the kicking game if Hopkins has to miss time.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Browns at Texans preview: Things to watch, best bets and game picks for Sunday

Fri, 22 Dec 2023 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns hit the road after two straight home games and they control their own destiny in the AFC Wild Card race. The Texans are currently on the outside looking in but, at 8-6, they have the same record as the Bengals and Colts, the two teams in the final Wild Card spots. The Texans are also in a three-way tie at the top of the AFC South but are third due to tiebreakers.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Friday’s preview podcast by discussing what to watch on Sunday when the Browns travel to Houston to likely face their old friend, Case Keenum.

Lance Reisland joins the show to break down the film on the Texans and how the Browns match up on both sides of the ball.

Tyler Shoemaker gives his picks for the game and advice about how to bet the game as well as his favorite and least favorite bets on the NFL schedule, his latest rankings and more.

Then Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan make their picks for Sunday’s game between the Browns and Texans.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Looking ahead to a Joe Flacco vs. Case Keenum matchup when the Browns play Houston

Thu, 21 Dec 2023 05:01:00 -0000

What might have been Deshaun Watson’s second game back in Houston against an up-and-coming rookie quarterback in C.J. Stroud is now likely Joe Flacco vs. Case Keenum when the Browns travel to Texas to face the Texans.

The thing is: the game still matters. Both teams are trying to lock down AFC Wild Card spots.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discuss the potential matchup between veteran quarterbacks on Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk Podcast. They discuss why Keenum shouldn’t be taken lightly and what they expect.

They also get into the injuries the Browns are dealing with and if they think Joel Bitonio and Juan Thornhill will play.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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What we're thinking about the Browns heading into Week 16 + Lance Reisland breaks down the win over the Bears

Wed, 20 Dec 2023 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns have an important game ahead on Sunday when they travel to Houston to take on the Texans. It's unclear if C.J. Stroud will play in the game, but there are plenty of playoff implications on both sides.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by going over what they're thinking heading into the week. They discuss Stroud's status, the injuries the Browns are dealing with and the playoff clinching scenarios.

Then Lance Reisland joins the show to go over the Bears film. What makes Amari Cooper so good? What about how Myles Garrett is impacting games? What happened on those Joe Flacco interceptions?

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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What prompted Kevin Stefanski to get on his soapbox for Myles Garrett?

Tue, 19 Dec 2023 05:01:00 -0000

Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski used part of his Monday press conference to make an empassioned case for Myles Garrett for NFL Defensive Player of the Year. It's not something Stefanski does often, so it stood out.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by discussing Stefanski's motives for choosing today to make the case. They also discuss Stefanski's approach this season and if it's different than years past.

Then they get into Joe Flacco and if there's a future in Cleveland for the veteran quarterback before they talk about the big winners in Jim Schwartz's defense this season.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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The Browns can beat anyone with Joe Flacco: Postgame podcast

Mon, 18 Dec 2023 04:08:51 -0000

The Browns won again with Joe Flacco leading the way, a 20-17 win over the Bears this time to move to 9-5. They did it despite three interceptions and injuries on both sides of the ball disrupting all areas of the roster.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe started their postgame podcast on Sunday by taking about the performance of Flacco and how he overcame the turnovers to lead the Browns to victory.

Then they talk about the play of some of the unsung players who stepped up in place of regular starters and the performance of the defense and how the Browns are putting themselves in position to take advantage of some luck.

They wrap up the podcast by talking about their big takeaways, from the AFC North race to too many turnovers.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Browns vs. Bears preview: Things to watch, best bets and game picks for Sunday

Fri, 15 Dec 2023 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns play their final NFC game of the season on Sunday at Cleveland Browns Stadium as the race for the Wild Card heats up. The Bears come to town, winners of three of four, to face a Browns team in the driver's seat for the AFC Wild Card.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Friday’s preview podcast by discussing what to watch on Sunday when Justin Fields and the Bears arrive.

Lance Reisland joins the show to break down the film on Fields and how the Browns handle mobile quarterbacks as well as what the Bears do well on both sides of the ball.

Tyler Shoemaker gives his picks for the game and advice about how to bet the game as well as his favorite and least favorite bets on the NFL schedule, his latest rankings and more.

Then Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan make their picks for Sunday’s game between the Browns and Bears.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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How will the Browns manage all their injuries?

Thu, 14 Dec 2023 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns are dealing with even more injuries as they begin preparations for the Bears this week. Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talk through all the latest on the injury front on Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast.

They start with the injury to defensive end Ogbo Okoronkwo which is likely to end his season. Who will step up and what impact will it have on Myles Garrett and Za'Darius Smith?

Then they discuss Grant Delpit undergoing surgery and whether Juan Thornhill's calf injury could linger. How will the Browns handle mounting injuries in their secondary.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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When will the Browns reach their breaking point with injuries? + Lance Reisland breaks down the Jags game

Wed, 13 Dec 2023 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns got more bad injury news on Tuesday. Left tackle Jedrick Wills Jr. is done for the season. So is defensive tackle Maurice Hurst II.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by talking about the injury bug continuing to ravage the Browns. What will they do at tackle with both Wills and Dawand Jones out for the season? Will rookie Siaki Ika be able to fill the void left by Hurst? Will the Browns reach their breaking point soon?

Lance Reisland joins the show to break down the tape from the win over the Jaguars. He talks about the performance of Joe Flacco and the two of his long touchdown passes and the playcalling that helped them happen. They also talk about the tackle position, the loss of Hurst and the state of the run game.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Does Joe Flacco have a future in Cleveland beyond this season? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 12 Dec 2023 05:01:00 -0000

Joe Flacco has taken Cleveland by storm since taking over as the starting quarterback two weeks ago. He beat the Jaguars on Sunday and has Browns fans thinking big again as the playoff race gets going.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start Tuesday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by talking all things Flacco. Why is he still on the practice squad? Why is this working? Does he have a future here beyond this season?

Then they discuss the loss of Dawand Jones and the future of the tackle position before they answer questions about Kevin Stefanski's Coach of the Year possibilities and take a closer look at if the Browns could win the AFC North.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Joe Flacco has changed the outlook for the Browns: Postgame podcast

Mon, 11 Dec 2023 04:25:28 -0000

The Browns beat the Jaguars, 31-27, Joe Flacco’s first win as the starting quarterback. He’s now the starting quarterback the rest of the season for the Browns.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe recapped Sunday’s win by the Browns in their Orange and Brown Talk postgame podcast and they start by talking about Flacco and what it means that the Browns have stumbled upon a quarterback who could save their season.

They also discuss Myles Garrett going after the officiating and their thoughts on why he did it and get into the overall performance of the defense.

Then they offer up their final thoughts on the defense and the vibes around Kevin Stefanski.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Browns vs. Jaguars preview: Things to watch, best bets and game picks for Sunday

Fri, 08 Dec 2023 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns return home on Sunday to face the AFC South-leading Jaguars. It's an important game in the playoff race for both teams, as Jacksonville tries to create some distance in their division and the Browns try to stay in the thick of the Wild Card race -- and get a leg up on the Jags if they fall out of the division lead.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Friday’s preview podcast by discussing what to watch on Sunday when the Browns potentially face a hobbled Trevor Lawrence.

Lance Reisland joins the show to break down the film on both quarterbacks the Browns could see and how to attack the Jags on both sides of the ball.

Tyler Shoemaker also joins to give his pick for the game and a prop bet he likes as well as his favorite and least favorite bets on the NFL schedule, goes over his rankings and more.

Then Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan make their picks for Sunday’s game between the Browns and Jaguars.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Will Joe Flacco start on Sunday? (And why isn't Kevin Stefanski saying?)

Thu, 07 Dec 2023 05:01:00 -0000

Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski wouldn't name his starting quarterback on Wednesday, but all signs continue pointing towards Joe Flacco making his second start on Sunday against Jacksonville.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Thursday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by talking Flacco and why Stefanski didn't name a starting quarterback on Wednesday. Is it a foregone conclusion that Flacco will start?

Then they talk Trevor Lawrence and if they believe he will play through his ankle sprain when the Jaguars visit on Sunday.

They wrap up the podcast by going through some of the injuries the Browns are dealing with and the good and bad news on some of them.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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What Trevor Lawrence's injury means for the Browns + Lance Reisland breaks down the loss to the Rams

Wed, 06 Dec 2023 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns could get a break this week in a game with AFC playoff implications. Jaguars quarterback Trevor Lawrence has a high ankle sprain and, while not yet ruled out, could be a lesser version of Lawrence if he plays.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by discussing Lawrence's status, protecting the football and Joe Flacco as they set up the week ahead for the Browns leading up to Sunday's home game against Jacksonville.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to talk Flacco, how teams are neutralizing Myles Garrett and he and Dan do a draft of favorite smells.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Which pass catchers need to step up for the Browns? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 05 Dec 2023 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns might have found something in Joe Flacco, who played well in a loss to the Rams at SoFi Stadium, his first start with his new team.

If Flacco is the guy moving forward, who needs to step up and help him among the pass catchers?

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start Tuesday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk podcast by discussing Elijah Moore, David Njoku and others who need to up their game, especially if Amari Cooper misses time due to a concussion.

They also talk about the defense and what they need to do to get right before they discuss the upcoming schedule and expectations for this team as they continue to navigate a season ravaged by injuries.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Should Joe Flacco be the Browns starting quarterback moving forward: Postgame podcast

Mon, 04 Dec 2023 06:49:14 -0000

The Browns fell to the Rams on Sunday in Joe Flacco's debut as the team's starting quarterback. He was elevated from the practice squad to make the start.

Following the 36-19 loss, Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe talked about what they believe the Browns should do with Flacco moving forward. Should Kevin Stefanski just name him his starting quarterback after he was able to get the passing game moving?

They also discuss the status of Amari Cooper, who suffered a concussion, and the issues at wide receiver if Cooper can't play on Sunday against the Jaguars.

They also talk about the defense, the team's trip to Los Angeles and more.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Browns at Rams preview: Things to watch, best bets and game picks for Sunday

Fri, 01 Dec 2023 04:51:51 -0000

The Browns wrap up a long trip on Sunday, face the Rams after spending the week practicing and preparing in Los Angeles.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Friday’s preview podcast by discussing what to watch on Sunday when the Browns finish this road trip that started last week in Denver.

Lance Reisland joins the show to break down the film on the Rams and the keys to beating L.A.

Tyler Shoemaker joins the show to give his pick for the game and a prop bet he likes as well as his favorite and least favorite bets on the NFL schedule, goes over his rankings and more.

Then Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan make their picks for Sunday’s game between the Browns and Rams.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Why didn't Kevin Stefanski name Joe Flacco the Browns starting quarterback?

Thu, 30 Nov 2023 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns are practicing in Los Angeles this week, but the week feels a little normal because we don't know who the Browns starting quarterback will be this week. Head coach Kevin Stefanski did promote Joe Flacco to the No. 2 quarterback, but that's as far as he went.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start their Thursday podcast from Los Angeles by discussing Flacco and why Stefanski didn't just name him his starting quarterback. Is there a chance Dorian Thompson-Robinson could still make it out of concussion protocol?

Then they spend some time on Myles Garrett, discussing the reporting Mary Kay has done on Garrett and his shoulder.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Why are the Browns spending a week in Los Angeles? + Lance Reisland recaps the Broncos game

Wed, 29 Nov 2023 05:15:22 -0000

The Browns are spending a week in Los Angeles ahead of Sunday's game against the Rams. Why are they doing it?

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by discussing the Browns' setup in Los Angeles and why it was important to spend the week out here. They get into the reasons they wanted to do this and why it's an important trip for them.

Then Lance Reisland joins Ashley Bastock for his weekly film breakdown. They discuss Joe Flacco and what he can still do and what the Browns can do offensively to help him. They also discuss adjustments teams are making to attack the Browns defense.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Can Joe Flacco lead the Browns to the playoffs? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 28 Nov 2023 06:47:57 -0000

The Browns received good news on Myles Garrett on Monday as he is expected to play on Sunday against the Rams. That's where Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start their Tuesday edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast.

Then they get into Hey, Mary Kay! questions, beginning with whether Joe Flacco is a quarterback still capable of leading the Browns to the playoffs. They discuss Kevin Stefanski's quarterback options and whether Flacco could start this week.

Then they discussed the play of Dorian Thompson-Robinson and whether he should be the starter if he's healthy as well as what he's done during his time as the starting quarterback.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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How many more injuries can the Browns absorb? Orange and Brown Talk postgame podcast

Mon, 27 Nov 2023 06:11:00 -0000

The Browns lost to the Broncos on Sunday in Denver but the real story coming out of the game is more injuries.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start their postgame podcast by discussing the injury to Dorian Thompson-Robinson, who is in the concussion protocol, and how the Browns will deal with potentially not having their starting quarterback next Sunday. Is it time for Joe Flacco if Thompson-Robinson can't go?

Then they get into the injury to Myles Garrett and what to expect out of him moving forward. Could it cost him time? Will he be anywhere near 100% if he plays?

Lastly, they discuss the wide receiver room and all the drop issues the Browns have had.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Browns at Broncos preview: Things to watch, best bets and game picks for Sunday

Fri, 24 Nov 2023 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns travel to Denver to face a red-hot Broncos team, winners of four games in a row. Dorian Thompson-Robinson will make his third start for the Browns, who have won three in a row and five of their last six.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Friday’s preview podcast by discussing what to watch on Sunday when the Browns start off a two-game road swing starting in Denver and then heading to Los Angeles.

Lance Reisland joins the show to break down the film on the Broncos and the keys to beating Denver.

Tyler Shoemaker joins the show to give his pick for the game and a prop bet he likes as well as his favorite and least favorite bets on the NFL schedule, goes over his rankings and more. He also helps Dan out with his survivor pick this week.

Then Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan make their picks for Sunday’s game between the Browns and Broncos.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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What we're watching for the Browns this week + Lance Reisland breaks down the Steelers game

Wed, 22 Nov 2023 05:01:00 -0000

Don't look now but the Browns are suddenly in the hunt for the AFC's top playoff seed following Kansas City's loss to Philadelphia on Monday night. They head to Denver this weekend to play the Broncos before they spend a week in Los Angeles leading up to their game against the Rams.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by looking at the week ahead and the three things they're watching as the Browns continue their quest for a return to the playoffs. They talk Joe Flacco, the Broncos and the playoff race.

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to talk about what he saw watching the film from the Steelers game. He talks about Dorian Thompson-Robinson, Geron Christian and the adjustment the Browns made on defense against the Steelers.

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What is the ceiling for this Browns team? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 21 Nov 2023 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns are 7-3 after their win over Pittsburgh on Sunday and they are on a path the playoffs with seven games remaining in the season. How far could they go if they make the playoffs?

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start Tuesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by answering a question from one of our Football Insider subscribers about the Browns ceiling and where they could end up in the postseason.

Then they discuss the play of Dorian Thompson-Robinson on Sunday against Pittsburgh and the addition of veteran quarterback Joe Flacco. They also spend time talking about David Njoku and the rest of the team's receivers and discuss the lost of safety Rodney McLeod.

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Browns beat the Steelers and the playoffs are in sight: Postgame podcast

Mon, 20 Nov 2023 04:04:49 -0000

Another Sunday, another dramatic win for the Browns over an AFC North opponent after the Browns beat the Steelers, 13-10, to move to 7-3 on the season. They’re right there in the division and playoff pictures and, at this point, the playoffs should be expected.

Before Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe get to that in their Orange and Brown Talk Postgame Podcast, they discuss the addition of Joe Flacco to the practice squad and if he will end up starting games for the Browns this season.

Then they get into the Browns’ victory, discuss the performance of Dorian Thompson-Robinson and if, at this point, it would be a disappointment for the Browns to miss the playoffs.

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Browns vs. Steelers preview: Things to watch, best bets and game picks for Sunday

Fri, 17 Nov 2023 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns and Steelers will face off on Sunday at Cleveland Browns Stadium. Dorian Thompson-Robinson will start in place of Deshaun Watson in a marquee AFC North matchup.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Friday’s preview podcast by discussing what to watch on Sunday when the Browns host Pittsburgh.

Lance Reisland joins the show to break down the film on the Steelers and the keys to beating Pittsburgh.

Tyler Shoemaker joins the show to give his pick for the game and a prop bet he likes as well as his favorite and least favorite bets on the NFL schedule, goes over his rankings and more.

Then Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan make their picks for Sunday’s game between the Browns and Steelers.

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Browns lose Deshaun Watson for the season: Where do they go from here?

Thu, 16 Nov 2023 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns lost Deshaun Watson for the season on Wednesday as he will undergo season-ending shoulder surgery. It's a huge blow for a team coming off their biggest win of the season that included Watson's best game as a member of the Browns.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe break down every angle of the injury and its aftermath.

They start by talking about their shock upon hearing the news and what this means for how we view the Watson trade now and what we can expect from him coming back next season after missing even more games.

Then they get into the decision to start Dorian Thompson-Robinson and why this start might be different than his first start against Baltimore. They also discuss the backup quarterback decisions the Browns have made.

They wrap up the podcast by figuring out how the Browns can still make the playoffs and what they can do if they get to the postseason.

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Getting ready for Browns-Steelers, looking back on the Ravens win and NFL playoff committee rankings

Wed, 15 Nov 2023 05:01:00 -0000

Pittsburgh week is here and this one's a doozy. The AFC North will start to take shape this week and, if the Bengals beat the Ravens on Thursday night, Sunday's game could be for first place in the division.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Wednesday's Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by setting up the week ahead. They discuss the Myles Garrett vs. T.J. Watt matchup as Garrett is seeking to lock up his first Defensive Player of the Year award. They also talk about what's next for Deshaun Watson.

Then Lance Reisland joins the show to break down what he saw on tape in the Browns' win over the Ravens. What changed for Watson? How did the offensive line play? Were the Browns really the more physical team?

Then Dan brings back his NFL playoff committee of 1 rankings.

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Has this been Kevin Stefanski's best coaching job with the Browns? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 14 Nov 2023 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns are 6-3 after a dramatic win over the Ravens in Baltimore and riding high as the AFC North race has tightened. They're right in the thick of it and Browns fans are getting excited about what this team could accomplish.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe start Tuesday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by answering a question about Kevin Stefanski and if this is the best coaching job he's done so far in his Browns tenure.

They also discuss the play of Deshaun Watson and if he'll be able to go Sunday against the Steelers.

Other questions include what makes this team so resilient and questions about what could prevent them from winning the division.

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Deshaun Watson delivers for the Browns as the AFC North tightens: Postgame podcast

Mon, 13 Nov 2023 04:24:53 -0000

This is what the Browns expected from Deshaun Watson. Their franchise quarterback showed up on Sunday in the second half, leading the team on a game-winning touchdown drive on Sunday and completing all 14 of his second-half passes after struggling in the first half.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe started the Orange and Brown Talk Postgame podcast by discussing the play of Watson and him leading them to their first win in Baltimore since 2019.

Then they talk about some of the other moments and players that went into the win, like Greg Newsome II's interception return for a touchdown, Jordan Elliott's blocked field goal and Dustin Hopkins bouncing back to make the winning kick.

Then they look ahead to next Sunday's game when they host Pittsburgh and a big week ahead for the AFC North.

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Browns at Ravens preview: Things to watch + best bets and game picks for Sunday

Fri, 10 Nov 2023 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns and Ravens will face off in an enormous AFC North showdown on Sunday at M&T Bank Stadium in Baltimore. The Ravens lead the divison at 7-2 while the Browns, at 5-3, will try to close the gap on Baltimore.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Friday's preview podcast by discussing Deshaun Watson, the Browns defense and the left and right tackle situations.

Lance Reisland joins the show to break down the film on Lamar Jackson, the Ravens defense and the keys to winning on SUnday.

Tyler Shoemaker joins the show to give his pick for the game and a prop bet he likes as well as his favorite and least favorite bets on the NFL schedule, goes over his rankings and more.

Then Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan make their picks for Sunday's game between the Browns and Ravens.

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What should the Browns do at tackle against the Ravens?

Thu, 09 Nov 2023 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns are about to start a two-game stretch against the Ravens and Steelers that will test their offensive line and they'll have to do it with a thinning group of tackles. Jedrick Wills Jr. is on injured reserve and Dawand Jones is already starting in place of Jack Conklin, whose season is over.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe put on their coach hats on and decide what they would do at tackle if they were the head coach of the Browns. They discuss who could start where and what the other options are, including what they would do if Jones, who didn't practice on Wednesday, is unable to play on Sunday.

They wrap up the podcast by talking about what they heard from Deshaun Watson on Wednesday and what some Ravens players had to say.

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3 Browns-Ravens things to watch + Lance Reisland on Deshaun Watson, the defense and more

Wed, 08 Nov 2023 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns and Ravens will meet this week in an enormous AFC North matchup. The Ravens lead the division and beat the Browns in Week 4, but Deshaun Watson is back for this game while the Ravens have gotten healthier, too.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe begin Wednesday’s Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by setting up the week with three things they’re watching as the game approaches. They discuss Watson, the magnitude of the matchup and the defense.

Then Lance Reisland joins the show to break down what he saw from Watson, from the interior of the defensive line and why Denzel Ward is having so much success this season.

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Is a split good enough for the Browns over the next two games? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 07 Nov 2023 05:01:00 -0000

The Browns are heading into one of the most important stretches of their season, traveling to Baltimore this week followed by hosting Pittsburgh the next week. It will help set the picture in the AFC North over the season's final weeks and potentially set the Browns up to make a run.

Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe begin Tuesday's Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast by looking ahead to the next two games and answering a question about if they would sign up for 1-1 over the next two.

They also answer questions about the performance of Deshaun Watson on Sunday and their thoughts a day after he returned.

Then they answer questions about how the Browns will manage left tackle with Jedrick Wills Jr. on injured reserve, the Nick Harris fullback package and more.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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What Deshaun Watson showed us in his return on Sunday: Browns postgame podcast

Mon, 06 Nov 2023 03:23:09 -0000

The Browns rolled past the Cardinals on Sunday, 27-0, and, most importantly, Deshaun Watson returned to the field and his shoulder held up throughout the game. He threw for 219 yards and two touchdowns.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe reacted to Watson's return in their postgame podcast on Sunday night. They discussed what they saw from Watson and what it means as they head to Baltimore next week for a big-time AFC North showdown.

They also talk about the dominant performance of the defense and the return of a fierce pass rush against Clayton Tune and the Cardinals.

They also talk about the loss of Jedrick Wills Jr. and if they should consider moving Dawand Jones to left tackle before they offer their final thoughts about the upcoming schedule, the performance of Corey Bojorquez and the wide receiver room.

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Browns vs. Cardinals preview: The latest on Deshaun Watson + best bets and game picks for Sunday

Fri, 03 Nov 2023 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns return home at 4-3 on Sunday to take on the 1-7 Cardinals at Cleveland Browns Stadium at 1 p.m. on Sunday.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Friday's preview podcast by discussing what Deshaun Watson had to say when he spoke to the media on Thursday and if they expect him to start in this game against the Cardinals.

Lance Reisland joins the show to break down the film on potential Cardinals starter Clayton Tune and give his keys to a Browns victory on Sunday.

Tyler Shoemaker joins the show to give his pick for the game and a prop bet he likes as well as his favorite and least favorite bets on the NFL schedule, goes over his rankings and more.

Then Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan make their picks for Sunday's game between the Browns and Cardinals.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Will Deshaun Watson start on Sunday against the Cardinals?

Thu, 02 Nov 2023 04:01:00 -0000

Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson returned to practice on Wednesday and we were able to watch him throw for the first time since before the Colts game.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Thursday’s Orange and Brown Talk Podcast with Watson’s return to practice and the likelihood of him starting on Sunday against the Cardinals. Is it better to get him out there now instead of waiting for Baltimore? What happens if he struggles again?

They also discuss the decision to keep P.J. Walker as the backup quarterback and potential starter if Watson is unable to play. Why did Kevin Stefanski choose Walker over giving rookie Dorian Thompson-Robinson another chance?

They wrap up the podcast by talking about Kareem Hunt’s postgame comments and a big injury they’re keeping an eye on for this week.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Should the Browns have been more aggressive at the trade deadline? + Lance Reisland on the Seahawks loss

Wed, 01 Nov 2023 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns had a quiet trade deadline on Tuesday, only making a deal in sending Donovan Peoples-Jones to the Lions.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe kick off Wedneday's Orange and Brown Talk by discussing the deadline. Should the Browns have addressed backup quarterback? Should they have taken a chance on Chase Young? Why did they trade Peoples-Jones?

Then Lance Reisland joins the podcast to look back on the Seahawks game. What did he think of the third-and-3 decision? Why was the screen game so effective? Is the defense OK?

Stick around at the end for some bonus uniform talk, too.

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Should the Browns turn back to Dorian Thompson-Robinson? Hey, Mary Kay!

Tue, 31 Oct 2023 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns could face another week this week without starting quarterback Deshaun Watson when they host Arizona on Sunday at Cleveland Browns Stadium. They will face either Kyler Murray or Clayton Tune.

If Watson misses another game, should Kevin Stefanski stick with P.J. Walker or should he revisit Dorian Thompson-Robinson and give him another shot? It's the first question Mary Kay Cabot and Dan Labbe discuss on a Hey, Mary Kay! edition of the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast.

They also discuss this important stretch of games coming up and when the right time for Watson to come back will be. They also get into Tuesday's trade deadline and what the Browns could look to add as well as the play of the defense and they react in real-time to the Cardinals' QB decision.

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Why it was a mistake to throw the ball late in Browns loss to Seattle: Postgame podcast

Mon, 30 Oct 2023 06:30:54 -0000

The Browns fell to the Seahawks, 24-20, on Sunday, and what's a Browns loss without a little playcalling controversy?

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe started off Sunday's postgame podcast by discussing Kevin Stefanski's decision to throw the ball just before the two-minute warning, resulting in a Seahawks interception and giving Seattle a chance to win the game.

They also discuss the play of P.J. Walker in his second start with the team.

They wrap up by getting into the defensive performance and what is still in front of the Browns after seven games.

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Browns at Seahawks preview: What Deshaun Watson had to say Thursday + best bets and game picks for Sunday

Fri, 27 Oct 2023 04:01:00 -0000

The Browns are 4-2 after their dramatic Week 7 win over the Colts. Now they continue their stretch of five road games in seven with a stop in Seattle, perhaps the most difficult road stadium in the NFL.

P.J. Walker will start in place of Deshaun Watson for the second time this season.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe start Friday's preview podcast by discussing what Deshaun Watson had to say when he spoke to the media on Thursday. They discuss what he disclosed about the injury and how he responded to critics saying he didn't want to play.

Lance Reisland joins the show to break down the film on the Seahawks and gives his keys to the Browns winning.

Tyler Shoemaker joins the show to give his pick for the game and a prop bet he likes as well as his favorite and least favorite bets on the NFL schedule, goes over his rankings and more.

Then Mary Kay, Ashley and Dan make their picks for Sunday's game between the Browns and Seahawks.

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Ice Flow by Kevin MacLeod

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Is starting P.J. Walker the right decision for the Browns?

Wed, 25 Oct 2023 23:14:05 -0000

Browns head coach Kevin Stefanski anncounced the decision on Sunday to start backup quarterback P.J. Walker and allow Deshaun Watson to continue rehabbing his shoulder after Stefanski removed him from the game on Sunday in Indianapolis.

Mary Kay Cabot, Ashley Bastock and Dan Labbe discussed Stefanski’s decision on the Orange and Brown Talk Podcast and why it was the right call for Stefanski to just make it now. They get into whether this is something that could linger even beyond this week and if there’s any concern over Stefanski talking about the swelling after the hit.

They also spend some time talking about Myles Garrett buying a minority stake in the Cavaliers.

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