Ep. 420

In AI search,, relevancy matters more than authority.

Kipp, Kieran, Beeri Amiel (Product at HubSpot and founder of XFunnel), and guest Sam Parr (Host of My First Million) dive into how AI-driven answer engines are disrupting traditional SEO and what marketers must do to adapt. Learn more on how AEO (Answer Engine Optimization) is changing the rules of search, why citation and content relevance matter more than authority, and what tools and tactics you can implement to succeed in the new era of AI search.

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• My First Million https://www.mfmpod.com/

• Hampton https://joinhampton.com/

• The Hustle https://thehustle.co/

• Beeri Amiel https://www.linkedin.com/in/beeri-amiel

• XFunnel https://www.xfunnel.ai/

• HubSpot AEO Portal https://clickhubspot.com/aeo

• Ahrefs https://ahrefs.com/

• Google Search Console https://search.google.com/search-console/about

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Ep. 419

How do you publish 250 pieces of content per week with zero employees?

Kipp and Sabrina Ramonov of Blotato, dive into the exact AI-powered content workflow that built a 2 million-person audience—all as a solo creator. Learn more on building repeatable brand voice skills with AI, automating content creation from raw images, and managing an entire social media calendar through smart connectors and tools. Sabrina Ramonov is on a mission to teach 1 million people AI. She’s the solo founder of Blotato.com, an AI SaaS app for creators and entrepreneurs to go viral on multiple social platforms like me (0 to 500k+ in 6 months solo).

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• Blotato https://www.blotato.com/

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Ep. 418

Did you know tools like ChatGPT and Claude are already telling your customers to buy from your competitors—and you might not even know it? 

Kipp dives into the rise of Answer Engine Optimization (AEO) and how AI search engines are transforming the way businesses are found and recommended online. Learn more on why traditional Google search is no longer enough, how AI-driven recommendations are shaping customer decisions, and the must-do strategies to ensure your brand shows up across every major AI-powered search engine.

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Ep. 417

Everyone told you the blog is dead—but the data proves we were all wrong.

Kipp, Kieran, Aja Frost (Sr. Director of Global Growth and Paid at HubSpot), and Beeri Amiel (Product at HubSpot and founder of XFunnel) dive into how answer engines like ChatGPT, Claude, and Google Gemini are reshaping how companies get discovered online, and why your blog matters more than ever. Learn more on real-world AEO (Answer Engine Optimization) insights, why blog posts and listicles dominate AI citations, the science of influencing robots (not just people), and the new playbook for building trust across YouTube, Reddit, and LinkedIn.

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• Beeri Amiel https://www.linkedin.com/in/beeri-amiel/

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Ep. 416

Is your AI marketing output stuck at "just okay" no matter how much you refine your skills?

Kieran dives into why building better skills isn’t enough—and shares the Pixar-inspired secret to world-class, distinctive results with AI. Learn more on the crucial difference between skills and the foundational context layer, harnessing "brain trust" principles to transform your marketing, and the four foundational files every marketer needs to move from average to extraordinary content.

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Ep. 415

What if you could turn AI into your second brain?

Kipp, Kieran, and guest Kevin Hutson (Futurepedia) dive into the levels of AI maturity and how marketers can go from AI novices to master workflow builders. Learn more on the step-by-step journey to AI fluency, the power of building reusable AI skills, and how to leverage tools like Manus to automate complex marketing workflows and outperform the competition.

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Ep. 414

How do you create killer ads when you don’t have a marketing team or big budget? 

Kipp dives into testing out Replit’s latest AI ad generation tool live, showing how anyone can validate ideas and iterate ad creative faster than ever. Learn more on crafting powerful prompts that drive results, iterating your way to great creative without breaking the bank, and navigating the pitfalls and possibilities of AI-powered ad creation on platforms like LinkedIn, Google, and Instagram.

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• Claude Opus 4.6 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-6

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• Lovable https://lovable.dev/

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Ep. 413

What if you could design a website just by describing what you want?

Kipp has Matt Wolfe (Future Tools) dive into Google's new Stitch tool, which uses AI to turn your prompts into polished web designs—no coding or design experience required. Learn more on how Vibe Design changes the way marketers build landing pages, why Stitch could replace legacy tools like ClickFunnels, and how you can export and iterate your site ideas directly inside Google's workflow.

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• Matt Wolfe https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-wolfe-30841712/

• Future Tools https://futuretools.io/

• Google Stitch https://stitch.withgoogle.com/

• Google AI Studio https://aistudio.google.com/

• Figma https://www.figma.com/

• vibe design https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/google-labs/stitch-ai-ui-design/

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Ep. 412

How fast can you build a viable marketing tool with AI?

Kipp and Kieran dive into building a Creator Hub app on air, showing real-time problem-solving, iteration, and what it takes to turn an AI prototype into an MVP tool. Learn more on leveraging AI for creator partnerships, the behind-the-scenes process of live building with Perplexity Computer and Claude Code, and the surprising bugs, breakthroughs, and best practices when using these tools for marketers chasing innovation.

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Ep. 411

“Most marketing teams are scaling with AI right now, and the output is getting worse and worse”

Kieran dives into the 5 essential future roles every marketing team needs to master AI and stand out as AI transforms the industry.  Learn more on why simply creating more content with AI isn’t enough, how brands like Unilever and Coca-Cola are experimenting (and sometimes struggling) with AI-driven marketing, and which new roles—like prompt strategist and agent ops manager—will define successful marketing teams in the era of autonomous agents.

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Ep. 410

The aftermath of the webinar is more important than the presentation itself.

Barbara Jovanovic, Co-Founder of Startup Cookie, dives into the secrets behind building a zero-employee marketing agency powered by AI, as outlined by Barbara. Learn more on automating content creation from webinars and podcasts, building custom AI agents for personalized marketing workflows, and maximizing team collaboration with streamlined tech stacks and distribution strategies.

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Ep. 409

Why do some content ideas go viral while others flop?

Kieran dives into building an AI-powered content team that can research, analyze, draft, and constantly improve your marketing output. Learn more on orchestrating 11 essential AI-driven content skills across workflows, crafting personalized audience profiles and writing styles, and using feedback loops to supercharge your content system month after month.

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Ep. 408

Did you know most teams aren't even clear on how their own workflows actually happen—and AI can help fix that, today?

Kipp and Kieran dive into the essential steps to transform your work with AI, including a free, $20,000-level AI consulting skill you can use right now. Learn more on how to identify gaps in your daily tasks using AI assistants, the best ways to implement and scale AI-first workflows (even if you're a total beginner), and how high-agency, low-tolerance teams are accelerating their transformation.

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Ep. 407

Did you know that 84% of people surveyed have never used AI?

Kipp and Kieran dive into why the biggest threat to your business isn’t the competition or the economy—it’s your own inability to integrate AI, and how closing the gap between potential and reality is the key to outsized growth. Learn more on why new AI models aren’t the game-changer you think, what most businesses get wrong when adopting AI, and the practical steps you can take to redesign your workflows and build an AI-native company.

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• Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/

• ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/

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• Google DeepMind https://deepmind.google/

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Ep. 406

Is AI just building too much clutter in your workflow?

Kipp and Kieran dive into the rise of super agents like Perplexity Computer, Manus, Claude Code, and OpenClaw, and share actionable ways to harness their power for marketing teams. Learn more on the core use case every AI company is chasing, best practices for integrating AI into your daily workflow, and how to iterate on skills to unlock creative, efficient marketing results.

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• Claude Code https://code.claude.com/docs/en/overview

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Ep. 405

Did you know it’s possible to build and launch a fully interactive inbound marketing campaign—including research, copy, and lead magnets—without writing any code or ever touching a conventional workflow tool?

Kipp, Kieran, and guest James Dickerson (co-founder of Boring Marketing) dive into the world of Claude Code, demystifying how Learn more as they break down the real power of Claude Code—including what makes it radically different from using Claude in the browser, how to use skills to multiply what you can accomplish, and tactical advice for automating website and campaign launches from scratch.

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• Boring Marketing https://boringmarketing.com/

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• Firecrawl https://www.firecrawl.dev/

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Ep. 404

Will every business have a creative agency “coworker” powered by AI?

Kipp, Kieran, and Patrick Haede (founder of Superscale AI) dive into how autonomous advertising agents are revolutionizing paid ads—making it possible for any business, no matter the size or budget, to compete with the world’s biggest brands. Learn more about how AI-driven agents can democratize access to high-quality ad production, why creative prompting gives marketers an edge in a world where everyone can generate hundreds of ads, and how onboarding and training your ad agent unlocks superhuman marketing performance.

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• Superscale https://superscale.ai/

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Ep. 403

Can you build a team of AI assistants—like a competitive researcher, content strategist, and world-class data analyst—all inside your email inbox?

Kieran dives into how AI specialists can supercharge your productivity right from your inbox. Learn more on setting up inbox-native AI agents, why bespoke email-based delegation beats chatbots, and the game-changing workflows for competitive analysis and content repurposing—all done through your email.

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• Airtable https://www.airtable.com/ 

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• Claude https://claude.ai/

• Gemini https://gemini.google.com/

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Ep. 402

How to get your own personal game changing autonomous agent.

Kipp and Kieran dive into how Meta’s newly acquired Manus AI agent quietly outpaces the hype around OpenClaw—making autonomous agents accessible, useful, and genuinely transformative for marketers and beyond. Learn more on why Manus might just be better than OpenClaw, how you can set up your own personal AI agent in just minutes, and the power of “skills” for unlocking workflows across email, messaging, and even content creation.

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Ep. 401

There's a huge social network for agents—where humans aren’t allowed to post.

Kieran dives into how a weekend project became an autonomous AI ecosystem, changing how we interact with the web. Learn more about the meteoric growth and viral community of OpenClaw, the wild agent-only social network Moltbook, the real-world security challenges that come with autonomous agents, and how you can safely get started experimenting with your own AI agent today.

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Ep. 400

Can you automate the most painful, time-consuming parts of marketing with AI—without sacrificing creativity or results?

Kipp and Mike Futia (Founder of SCALE AI) dive into Mike’s real-world blueprint for AI-powered social trendspotting and creative production for brands. Learn more on building custom AI tools (no coding experience required), the line between automation and human creative input, and which AI workflows actually move marketing metrics instead of making more work.

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Ep. 399

We are now transitioning from vibe coding to vibe working?

Kieran dives into the historic evolution of AI from a tool you chat with to a team you manage, and why this changes the future of work. Learn more on the rise of agentic AI teams that autonomously handle projects, how Claude and similar models are embedding themselves directly into essential tools like Excel and PowerPoint, and why mastering outcome-based thinking (rather than task-based delegation) will separate those who thrive in the "vibe working" era from those left behind.

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Ep. 398

Are slides the most underappreciated format of content on the internet—and has AI totally changed how we should use them?

Kipp, Kieran, and Kristin Fracchia of Gamma, dive into the new world of automated, AI-powered slide workflows that turn every sales call, meeting, or brainstorming session into a high-impact visual deck. Learn more on using AI for automated sales follow-ups, brainstorming from data sources like Slack channels, and creating stunning, animated presentations—all with tools that make slides faster, more effective, and way more fun.

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Ep. 397

If you’re not building systems for creative work, are you falling behind?

Kipp and Lior Albeck (CEO and Co-Founder of Weavy) dive into how AI is radically changing creative marketing and why system-building is now essential to stay competitive. Learn more on how to break down the mindshift every team needs, how to future-proof your creative assets, and the secrets behind building an AI-native company—plus, practical ways anyone can start systematizing their creative process today.

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Ep. 396

Could ChatGPT become a $47 billion ads business by matching Google’s user monetization?

Kipp and Kieran dive into the massive opportunity for marketers as ChatGPT and AI platforms launch new ad products. Learn more on three gold rush opportunities in the coming wave of AI ads, how intent-based advertising will change conversion rates and ROI, the new playbook for building apps and review sites, and why better analytics and targeting will transform your marketing strategy for 2026.

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Ep. 395

Making market research more efficient and way cheaper.

Kipp and Kieran dive into why Manus may be the world’s best marketing analyst—and why most marketers are sleeping on it. Learn more on how you can unlock high-value, easy-to-use market research, competitive intelligence, and actionable insights by combining Manus with SimilarWeb data, see how to model budgets using real traffic benchmarks, and watch as Kipp and Kieran turn cutting-edge research into killer presentations and website designs in minutes.

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Ep. 394

Is automating comments with AI the future of marketing, or a path to disaster?

Kipp and Kieran dive into the controversial rise of AI marketing agents and why automating community engagement could ruin what makes marketing—and the Internet—remarkable. Learn more on why human-crafted content and authentic participation build real brands, the problems with automating community interactions, and how to use AI as a powerful assistant instead of a shortcut to mediocrity.

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Ep. 393

233 million views in just three days — can AI-generated ads really replace million-dollar productions?

Kipp, Kieran, and guest, PJ Accetturo, of Genre.ai, dive into the wild world of AI-powered commercial workflows and the viral David Beckham ad that’s turning heads across the industry. Learn more about AI-driven creative teams, the tools behind photorealistic video production, and the emerging future—where hyper-niche stories thrive and challenger brands outsmart the incumbents.

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• Genre.ai https://www.genre.ai/

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Ep. 392

Is this the ChatGPT moment for business productivity?

Kipp Bodnar dives into why Claude Cowork represents a seminal moment in AI for business use, breaking down how it empowers non-technical users to work faster and smarter than ever. Learn more about what makes Cowork unique (local file access and true desktop integration), how AI can automate your workday (from building strategies to batch-creating assets), and why this could be the biggest AI leap for business since ChatGPT.

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Ep. 391

Is 2026 the year of the AI backlash?

Kieran Flanagan and Kipp Bodnar dive into what the growing resentment toward AI content means for marketers and how to stand out by embracing human creativity and expertise. Learn more about why authenticity is becoming the ultimate growth strategy, how brands like Equinox are flipping AI slop into standout campaigns, and the practical steps you need to succeed in a world overwhelmed by generic, automated content.

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• Equinox AI Ads https://www.instagram.com/p/DTIsY5tkrSB/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

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Ep. 390

How long does it really take to make a realistic AI video ad?

Kipp and Kieran dive into a step-by-step tutorial for creating high-quality, believable AI-powered videos, even if you’re not a video expert. Learn more on how to develop a creative concept that AI tools can’t replace, the essential workflow for using Veo 3.1 and Nano Banana Pro, and why reference images are the secret to seamless video scenes. This episode breaks down the process and tips to help you master AI video creation faster and smarter.

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• Nano Banana Pro https://gemini.google/overview/image-generation/

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Ep. 389

What are the five AI skills every marketer needs to win in 2026?

Kipp and Kieran dive into the top five AI launches and must-have skills transforming marketing in 2026, breaking down what matters amid an overwhelming wave of new technology. Learn more on using Gemini 3 for content remixing and competitive intelligence, mastering next-level image and video creation with cutting-edge models like Nano Banana Pro and Veo 3.1, and the critical importance of automation, agentic workflows, and vibe coding to unlock 10x marketing scale.

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Ep. 388

Did you know that deep domain expertise—not just engineering chops—is now the critical skill for building powerful AI workflows? 

Kipp and Tina Huang, data scientist and YouTuber, dive into how anyone can use tools like ChatGPT and n8n to stop customers from leaving by automating and personalizing your workflows for true impact. Learn more on identifying the right problems to automate, the essential components of building AI-powered agents, and the cultural and organizational strategies to actually get your team on board and drive change.

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Ep. 387

Can you really build a viral content creation app in under 10 minutes?

Kieran dives into the rapid process of building an AI-powered app that transforms any YouTube video into viral talking points you can use across all your content channels. Learn more on how to craft educational hooks, develop spicy takes, and leverage actionable data nuggets to fuel your social media, newsletters, and more. Find out how you can use this workflow—and build your own suite of internal tools—to supercharge your team's creativity with cutting-edge AI.

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Ep. 386

How can you turn painstaking manual data analysis and deck-building into just minutes of work?

Kipp and Kieran dive into the new cloud workflow that will save you hours every week and change your reporting forever. Learn more on creating interactive dashboards from messy CSVs, uncovering actionable insights with a single prompt, and using AI to auto-generate executive-ready decks—no more pivot tables, manual graphs, or painful copy-paste.

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Is SEO more relevant than we thought?

Ep. 385

Kipp, Kieran, and Ethan Smith, CEO of Graphite, dive into the data behind the real state of SEO, debunking the myths that SEO is dead and uncovering what’s really changing with the rise of answer engine optimization. Learn more on whether LLMs are really overtaking search, how marketers should invest between SEO and AEO, and the most repeatable tactics to rank #1 on Google and show up in AI-generated answers.

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• Ethan Smith https://www.linkedin.com/in/ethanls

• Graphite https://graphite.io/

• Ahrefs https://ahrefs.com/

• ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/

• Grok https://grok.com/

• Claude https://claude.ai/

• Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/

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Ep. 384

Did you know that Gemini 3 can build an interactive landing page in less than 10 minutes?

Kieran and Logan Kilpatrick, of Google, dive into the paradigm-shifting capabilities of Google’s Gemini 3, showing marketers exactly how AI can transform creative workflows and level up your marketing game. Learn more on using Gemini 3 for vibe coding viral apps, turning landing pages into interactive user experiences, rapid image and video prototyping with Nano Banana Pro, and visualizing campaign data for instant insights.

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• Logan Kilpatrick https://www.linkedin.com/in/logankilpatrick

• Gemini 3 https://aistudio.google.com/models/gemini-3

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Ep. 383

Can 50 people really do the work of 500 in the new AI era?

Kipp, Kieran and guests Grant Lee, co-founder and CEO of Gamma, and Kristin Fracchia, who leads Marketing at Gamma, dive into the revolutionary AI workflows and org design lessons powering Gamma’s $2B company—plus how any team can scale smarter with fewer resources.  Learn more on building lean, high-growth teams with generalists over specialists, scaling creative and professional workflows with AI, bridging the gap between AI-first startups and Main Street businesses, and the hacks and use cases driving productivity for millions. Recorded live at GROW Europe.

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• Growing a startup? Get the tools, education, and support you need with HubSpot for Startups. Exclusive discounts + a full growth platform: http://hubspot.com/startups

• Subscribe to Mindstream newsletter https://www.mindstream.news/

• Gamma https://gamma.app/

• Grant Lee https://www.linkedin.com/in/grantslee

• Kristin Fracchia https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinfracchia

• Zapier https://zapier.com/

• Make https://www.make.com/en

• N8N https://n8n.io/

• Clay https://www.clay.com/

• Granola https://www.granola.ai/

• Wispr https://wisprflow.ai/

• Kimi K2 https://www.kimi.com/

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Ep. 382

The Opus 4.5 model is “mind blowing”.

Kieran dives into how the latest advances in AI are transforming the marketing playbook, showing you real-world use cases you can implement today. Learn more on using Claude Opus 4.5 to create interactive customer personas, building dynamic dashboards to analyze campaign performance (and make smarter budget decisions), and remixing content into multiple formats with powerful new AI tools.

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Ep. 381

Google’s new Nano Banana Pro feature inside NotebookLM can complete tasks that would “have taken a human hours to do”.

Kipp dives into how game-changing AI features are transforming content creation. Learn more about generating custom infographics and slide decks at lightning speed, building multimedia content for every marketing channel, and personalizing knowledge sharing for teams using Google’s latest AI tools.

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• NotebookLM https://notebooklm.google/

• Greg Isenberg https://www.gregisenberg.com/

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Ep. 380

Is Gemini 3 better than GPT-5?

Kipp and Kieran dive into the seismic release of Gemini 3 and what it means for the future of marketing, search, and AI-driven business tools. Learn more on how Gemini’s state-of-the-art multimodal reasoning unlocks custom interactive apps in search, why dynamic AI-generated UIs signal the end of the blue links era, and how marketers can leverage Gemini to automate research, customer insights, and content more effortlessly than ever before.

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• ChatGPT 5 https://chat.chatbot.app/gpt5

• Claude https://claude.ai/

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Ep. 379

Did you know that more than 74% of the new web pages online today contain some form of AI-generated content?

Recording from GROW Europe, Kipp and Kieran dive into how AI is fundamentally disrupting marketing, shifting it from the era of volume to the era of value. Learn more on why trust is moving from brands to individuals and creators, the seismic changes in search and the rise of AI-first answer engines, and how granular data and AI-powered personalization are reshaping paid advertising and email prospecting.

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• Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/

• Claude https://claude.ai/

• Reddit https://www.reddit.com/

• My First Million https://www.mfmpod.com/

• XFunnel https://www.xfunnel.ai/

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• Sora 2 https://openai.com/index/sora-2/

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Ep. 378

“What matters is that you're building something people want. The VCs will come once they see that there is something exciting.”

Kipp and guest Erica Wenger, of Park Rangers Capital, dive into the hidden playbooks behind companies that actually win in today’s hyper-competitive tech landscape. Learn more on why distribution is the new moat for startups, what it means to build in public and harness cult-like communities, and which AI tools are truly overrated (and underrated) for marketers and founders right now. 

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• Park Rangers Capital https://www.parkrangerscap.com/

• beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com/

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Ep. 377

How fast could you build a custom app to grow your newsletter—without writing a single line of code?

Kieran dives into Google’s powerful new AI Code Assistant and how it unlocks a new era of code-powered marketing for businesses of any size. Learn more on the true power of Google’s AI ecosystem, how to automate demand capture and email sign-ups, and practical tips for leveraging AI coding tools to grow your business today.

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• Gemini Code Assist https://codeassist.google/

• Nano Banana https://aistudio.google.com/models/gemini-2-5-flash-image

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Ep. 376

This guest grew her Instagram from zero to over 418,000 followers in just a year—almost entirely on autopilot with AI-powered content repurposing.

Kipp, Kieran, and guest Sabrina Ramonov, of Blotato, dive into how solopreneurs and marketers can go from a simple app idea to launching viral lead magnets, driving traffic, and scaling their brand with AI, even if you don’t have technical experience. Learn more on no-code “Vibe coding” tools to build micro apps, automation strategies for distributing your content across eight platforms, and the secret formula to creating content that actually gets noticed (and converts).

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• Blotato https://www.blotato.com/

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Ep. 375

Did you know you can build a full marketing campaign in just 10 minutes with AI?

Kipp dives into the power of leveraging Claude’s new desktop features to speed up and upgrade your marketing workflow. Learn more on how to use screenshots to analyze competitors, tap your customer personas for real insights, and automatically generate HTML emails that are ready to ship straight from HubSpot.

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• ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/

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Ep. 374

Is ChatGPT the most impactful tool in the marketer’s tech stack?

Kieran and Kyle Poyar, creator and writer of Growth Unhinged, dive into the revolutionary ways marketers and go-to-market teams are using generative AI to transform their workflow—faster, smarter, and with more impact than ever before. Learn more on how marketers are leveraging ChatGPT for persona research with deep context, creating differentiated product positioning, and optimizing growth experiments to make better business decisions.

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• Growth Unhinged https://www.growthunhinged.com/

• ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/

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Ep. 373

Is Atlas the Chrome killer? Not so fast.

Kipp and Kieran dive into OpenAI’s latest launch—the ChatGPT Atlas web browser—and explore how it stacks up against Google Chrome and Perplexity’s Comet browser. Learn more on how AI agents can take over your browser to automate tasks, why bringing memory online could fundamentally change your web experience, and the real-world marketing hacks you can pull off with agentic browsers right now.

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• Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/

• OpenAI Operator https://openai.com/index/introducing-operator/

• Ramp https://ramp.com/

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Ep. 372

Did you know you can now teach Claude AI any expert skill just by uploading the right prompt?

Kieran dives into the coolest AI launch of the year, where anyone can turn Claude into an expert in any task. Learn more on how to unlock the secrets behind agent skills, how to train Claude to level up your work, and what it takes to build and upload custom AI skills using just prompts.

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Ep. 371

Ever wondered, “How do they do it?” when you spot amazing ads or flawless email marketing from your favorite brands? 

Kipp dives into the underrated hack every marketer should know: instantly reverse engineering any company’s marketing strategy using AI. Learn more on how to unlock the secrets behind breakthrough campaigns with browser-based agents, get tactical tips on AI ad creation tools, and learn to quickly analyze competitors' tech stacks and conversion architectures to grow your business faster.

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• Perplexity Comet Browser https://www.perplexity.ai/comet

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• Meta Ads https://business.meta.com/

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Ep. 370

Is making a million dollars with AI really that easy?

Kipp, Kieran, and Greg Isenberg, Co-founder of Ideabrowser and host of The Startup Ideas Podcast, dive into Greg’s proven frameworks and hands-on tools for building successful AI-powered businesses from scratch. Learn more on how to spot high-potential AI opportunities, the best way to validate product ideas before building, and why leveraging AI tools for audience building and distribution could be your unfair advantage in the AI gold rush.

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• Ideas Browser https://www.ideabrowser.com/

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Ep. 369

This guest grew his YouTube channel by hundreds of thousands subscribers in just one year by sharing advanced AI automation workflows.

Kipp, Kieran, and Nate Herk, Co-Founder and CGO at TrueHorizon AI, dive into how you can use cutting-edge AI agents to automate creative marketing tasks, boost productivity, and reshape your business. Learn more about building smart AI workflows that turn images into ads and videos, how to set up and prompt agents in n8n without coding, and where to start automating your most valuable business processes for maximum ROI.

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• Nate Herk https://www.linkedin.com/in/nateherkelman

• TrueHorizon AI https://www.truehorizon.ai/

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• Telegram https://telegram.org/

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Ep 368

Ever wonder how you can use AI to reduce the amount of money you’re spending on ads to acquire more customers?

Kipp and Kieran dive into how to leverage AI to scale creative asset production and transform your marketing workflow with expert insights from AI creative mastermind Rory Flynn. Learn more on building prompt formulas for high-quality imagery and video, deploying node-based tools like Weavy to automate and batch-create assets, and reverse engineering creative building blocks to make every marketer self-sufficient in the age of AI.

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• Rory Flynn https://www.linkedin.com/in/rory-flynn-ai

• Midjourney https://www.midjourney.com/

• Weavy https://www.weavy.ai/

• Claude https://www.midjourney.com/

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Ep. 367

Will Sora 2 make TikTok obsolete?

Kipp and Kieran dive into the jaw-dropping launch of Sora 2—a next-gen AI video model that’s shaking up everything we know about content, virality, and social networks. Learn more on why Sora 2 could redefine online personas with its AI cloning and “cameo” feature, what happens when anyone can monetize their digital likeness, and how the tidal wave of AI-generated “slop” is forcing marketers and brands to rethink what it means to stand out online.

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• Sora 2 https://openai.com/index/sora-2/

• VO3 https://www.vo3ai.com/

• Heygen https://www.heygen.com/

• ElevenLabs https://elevenlabs.io/

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Ep, 366

Can ChatGPT or Perplexity convert customers at up to 13x the rate of a traditional Google search?

Kipp and Neil Patel, of Co-Founder at Neil Patel Digital and co-host of Marketing School Podcast,  dive into the game-changing marketing tactics you’ll be grateful for a year from now, sharing brand-new research and practical strategies for the AI era. Learn more on why optimizing for AEO (Answer Engine Optimization) is reshaping conversion rates, how creating content for both humans and AI gives you an edge, and which old-school marketing methods are making a comeback to drive real revenue.

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• Neil Patel https://www.linkedin.com/in/neilkpatel

• Marketing School Podcast https://marketingschool.io/

• NP Digital https://neilpatel.com/

• ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/

• Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/

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Ep. 365

Will businesses need more humans than ever to actually make AI work?

Kipp and Kieran dive into why the AI revolution is creating an explosion of opportunity for consultants and businesses who know how to integrate new technology. Learn more on why AI adoption is driving massive demand for human expertise, the skills you need to thrive as an AI consultant, and how the new era of PR gives founders—and real personalities—a fresh edge in business.

Mentions

• Alex Lieberman https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-lieberman

• 10x Labs https://10xlabs.com.au/

• Kaz Nejatian https://ca.linkedin.com/in/kasranejatian

• Opendoor https://www.opendoor.com/

• Ramp https://ramp.com/

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Ep. 364

Did you know Google’s new AI-powered Chrome could mark “the death of web pages” as we know them?

Kipp and Kieran dive into how Google’s latest Gemini integration is completely transforming search, content consumption, and the future of SEO in 2025. Learn more on how AI is making clicks and traditional web browsing obsolete, why AEO (AI Engine Optimization) is the next big battleground for brands, and what marketers must do to adapt their strategies to a world of conversational and agentic search.

Mentions

• Google Chrome https://www.google.com/chrome/

• Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/

• ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/

• Claude https://claude.ai/

• Gemini https://gemini.google.com/

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Ep. 363

Is influencer marketing the new product virality?

Kipp and Kieran dive into the viral marketing playbook that skyrocketed an AI startup to $50M ARR and 50 million users with just 30 employees. Learn more on the explosive power of influencer-led growth, why building brand outranks traditional performance marketing, and the essential product feedback loops that every modern startup needs to stay ahead in the competitive AI era.

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• Dropbox https://www.dropbox.com/

• Lovable https://lovable.dev/

• Anton Osika https://www.linkedin.com/in/antonosika/

• Grant Lee https://www.linkedin.com/in/grantslee/

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Ep. 362

Did you know that 58.5% of Google searches now end without a click?

Kipp and Aja Frost, Sr. Director of Global Growth at HubSpot, dive into how AI has fundamentally changed the marketing landscape—and what you can do about it. Learn more on why old-school tactics like linear funnels and basic personalization are outdated, how “loop marketing” can future-proof your strategy, and which AI-powered tactics drive explosive growth when traffic and attention are harder than ever to capture. This episode was recorded at HubSpot’s Inbound 2025. 

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• HubSpot Inbound https://www.inbound.com/

• Aja Frost https://www.linkedin.com/in/ajafrost/

• Claude https://claude.ai/

• Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/

• Breeze Assistant https://knowledge.hubspot.com/ai/use-breeze-assistant

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Ep. 361

Marketing is only limited by your own creativity and ambition right now.

Kipp and Nicholas Holland, Head of AI, SVP Product at HubSpot, dive into how the world’s top 1% of marketers are deploying AI for explosive growth. Learn more on why context is the most important word for AI in 2026, the rise of agents and assistants for every marketing use case, and how today’s marketers can 10x their creativity by practicing and pushing past the limits of what’s possible.

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• Nicholas Holland https://www.linkedin.com/in/nashvilleholland/

• HubSpot Breeze https://www.hubspot.com/products/ai

• ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/

• Gemini https://gemini.google.com/

• Nano Banana https://nanobanana.ai/

• Google Veo https://deepmind.google/models/veo/

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Ep. 360

Did you know the CEO of Microsoft, just gave away his four most powerful daily AI prompts for boosting productivity and leadership?

Kieran dives into how you can swipe, upgrade, and use the very same prompts Satya Nadella relies on every single day. Learn how to prep smarter for every meeting, get real-time project status updates, check if you’ll hit your deadlines, and analyze exactly how you’re spending your time. 

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• Satya Nadella https://www.linkedin.com/in/satyanadella/

• Microsoft https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/

• Microsoft Copilot https://copilot.microsoft.com/chats/HATNMvfutDfR73T3acuz1

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• 
  

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Ep. 359

Did you know that 60% of Google searches now end without a single click?

Kipp and Aja Frost, Sr. Director of Global Growth at HubSpot, dive into why traditional marketing is broken and what the future of conversions looks like in a world dominated by AI. Learn more about how AI is upending search and website traffic, why the future belongs to marketers who can personalize experiences at scale, and the brand new Loop Framework that will transform how you drive results in 2024 and beyond.

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• Aja Frost https://www.linkedin.com/in/ajafrost/

• HubSpot Loop Marketing https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing

• ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/

• Claude https://claude.ai/

• Perplexity https://www.perplexity.ai/

• Quora https://www.quora.com/

• Reddit https://www.reddit.com/

• Discord https://discord.com/

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Ep. 358

10% of all new sites on the internet in June were built with Lovable

Kieran dives into Lovable, the fastest-growing app in Europe, with its co-founder Anton Osika. Learn more about the implications for marketers and founders, how distribution and audience-building are evolving, and how to adapt your team and mindset to thrive in the era of AI-generated software.

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• Anton Osika https://www.linkedin.com/in/antonosika/

• Lovable https://lovable.dev/

• Eoghan McCabe https://www.linkedin.com/in/eoghanmccabe/

• Y Combinator https://www.ycombinator.com/

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Ep. 357

Did you know 95% of all AI pilots are failing, according to a recent MIT study?

Kieran dives into how the top 1% of executives, leaders, and founders are using AI to 10x their productivity—before lunch. Learn more about how to use AI as your Chief of Staff to eliminate blockers and prioritize your day, streamline your executive updates and communications, and leverage AI as a strategic thought partner to sharpen your critical thinking and problem solving.

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• ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/

• Custom GPT https://customgpt.ai/

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Ep. 356

Did you know Lovable is the fastest-growing AI app on the planet—scaling faster than ChatGPT?

Kieran dives into what it takes to succeed in today’s AI-native startup world, with growth leader Elena Verna revealing how Lovable is changing the game for building and scaling tech companies. Learn more on why traditional management roles are disappearing, how end-to-end ownership and autonomy are driving insane speed at Lovable, and how the growth playbook is transforming for a generation of AI-powered products.

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• Elena Verna https://www.linkedin.com/in/elenaverna/

• Lovable https://lovable.dev/

• Cursor https://cursor.com/

• Miro https://miro.com/

• SurveyMonkey https://www.surveymonkey.com/

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Ep. 355

Is the era of "who publishes the most content wins" over?

Kipp, Kieran, and Alex Lieberman, co-founder of Morning Brew, dive into why marketers need to shift from churning out content to building a resonant brand identity that stands out in a crowded landscape. Learn more on why taste and speed—not just algorithms—will define marketing winners, the four moats shaping both software and content businesses, and how network effects and data are giving companies an unbeatable edge.

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Ep. 354

Are marketing teams about to shrink because of AI?

Kieran dives into how AI is transforming marketing teams, the skills that will set you apart, and what the future of marketing roles looks like. Learn more about the shift from specialists to generalists powered by AI, the two types of marketers who will thrive in the AI era (creative storytellers and engineer-led problem solvers), and why—even as teams get smaller—marketing is about to become more important, more valuable, and more fun than ever.

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Ep. 353

Is GPT-5 any good for creative writing, or is it just another overhyped AI release?

Kipp dives into the one trick most marketers miss that instantly turns any AI into a better writing assistant. Learn how to craft a content ICP that actually works, why copy-paste marketers are doomed to mediocrity, and how tailoring your AI prompts with deep audience insights unlocks far more creative, original content.

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Ep. 352

Is AI actually making our content worse—and could human imperfections be the key to better marketing?

Kipp and Kieran dive into the real impact of AI on creative originality with Darius Lam, CEO and founder of NEX, an AI content platform built for CPG brands. Learn more on why AI-generated content is forcing marketers to embrace imperfection, how brands can stand out in a world where AI makes everything look the same, and why the future belongs to those who balance creativity, authenticity, and scale.

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Ep. 351 

GPT-5 is here for everyone (including free users) and it's a meaningful step forward for AI. Kipp breaks down OpenAI's hour-long livestream so you don't have to, covering what GPT-5 means for marketers, the biggest improvements in coding and writing, and why more people will use ChatGPT instead of Google for search. Learn about the key features that matter for business, from improved voice capabilities to better front-end design, plus why this democratization of advanced AI could transform how you build websites, create content, and reach customers.

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Ep. 350

Can you communicate four to five times faster with voice AI than typing?

Kipp and Allan Guo, Cofounder & CEO at Willow, dive into the untapped power of voice AI for marketers, founders, and busy professionals, exploring how it can transform your workflow and help you get more done. Learn more on the game-changing uses of voice AI—from supercharging your email and Slack messaging, to brainstorming and iterating ideas with large language models, to radically improving your daily productivity and communication.

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Ep. 349

By 2027, will 95% of all B2B buyer journeys start on an LLM?

Kipp and Kieran dive into the essential AI-powered marketing playbook for building a modern marketing plan from scratch in today’s rapidly changing landscape. Learn more on how to win in AI search and boost your share of voice, why mastering short-form content is the new superpower for marketers, and how intent data and micro-audience campaigns can drive greater results than ever before.

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Ep. 348

What if you could build an entire year-long content strategy in just one AI prompt?

Kipp dives into the brand new HubSpot and Claude AI integration that's set to revolutionize how marketers work. Learn more on building your ideal customer profiles and personalized content calendars, running instant marketing attribution and ROI analysis, and developing lead nurturing and account-based marketing campaigns—all directly inside Claude and HubSpot.

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Ep. 347

Is this AI browser really good enough to be your default?

Kipp dives into a hands-on unboxing of Perplexity’s new Comet browser to find out if the hype lives up to the reality, and whether AI-native browsing can truly supercharge your marketing and business workflow. Learn more about unlocking the potential of AI-powered web browsing, top marketing use cases, and productivity hacks you can implement right now.

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Ep. 346

Is ChatGPT agent actually a game changer for marketers, or just more overhyped AI? 

Kieran dives into whether ChatGPT agent can truly automate complex marketing and growth tasks, or if specialized AI tools still reign supreme. Learn more on how the new agent stacks up against human marketers, where it shines and struggles in competitive research and crafting presentations, and what the future of managing fleets of AI agents means for your productivity.

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Ep. 345

Is “vibe coding” the most addictive and important new skill for marketers in 2025?

Kieran dives into how any marketer can quickly build lightweight tools and apps using AI and no-code platforms like ChatGPT, Perplexity Labs, and Replit. Learn more on defining your ICP (ideal customer profile) in record time, generating powerful code-powered lead magnets, and why building product demos and interactive experiences is now the ultimate way to attract and convert your audience.

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Ep. 344

Did you know you can go from idea to publishing a working lead magnet app in under an hour with AI?

Kipp dives into how AI code generation tools are changing the game for small businesses and marketers by making it easier than ever to build free web applications that attract and convert customers. Learn more about leveraging ChatGPT and Claude to turn ideas into real web apps in minutes, the power of cloud-hosted artifacts for rapid prototyping, and actionable steps to test and validate your next lead magnet with almost zero coding experience.

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Ep. 343

Is Grok 4 really the smartest AI model?

Kipp and Kieran dive into the hype, hands-on tests, and real-world marketing applications of Elon Musk’s latest AI release. Learn more on what makes Grok 4 different from other models, explore creative ways marketers and founders can use Grok’s X data access, and put Grok 4 up against OpenAI’s O3 in live marketing challenges to see which delivers the best results for content creation and campaign planning.

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Ep. 342

How can you build a robust ideal customer profile with A ?

Kipp, Kieran, and Rachel Leist (VP of Marketing for HubSpot) dive into how AI is making product marketing 10x faster—and dramatically more personalized—by automating everything from positioning docs to competitor intelligence. Learn more on how to use AI tools to instantly create customer personas, power up your sales and competitive battlecards, and scale customer interviews so you’re always on the pulse of what your market needs most. 

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Ep. 341

Did you know most AI video tools are still better at creating 6-8 second clips, than full-length ads?

Kipp dives into the latest in AI video, sharing hands-on experiments with new tools and why the viral Cat Olympics video is a perfect showcase of what's possible (and not possible) right now. Learn more on the practical realities of generating videos with AI, how to get better output with pro-level prompts and video editing, and the one workflow that makes AI video tools efficient for marketers looking to save time and money.

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• Google’s Veo 3 https://gemini.google/overview/video-generation/

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Did you know that for every 18 pages Google scrapes from content publishers today, they now send back just one visit—down from two pages per visit a decade ago?

Kieran dives into the “great content collapse” and what the changing landscape of AI-powered search means for the future of marketing and growth. Learn more on how Google and OpenAI are upending the traditional value exchange of content, why paid advertising costs are set to skyrocket, and what new playbooks marketers need as AI transforms how consumers find information online.

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• Cloudflare https://www.cloudflare.com/

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Did you know that Google search traffic is disappearing—and no one is giving us the new marketing playbooks?

Kieran dives into how AI tools like Perplexity Labs are changing the game for marketers, revealing a future where you can create highly personalized campaigns at scale. Learn more on how to segment audiences in powerful new ways, leverage real-time signals from platforms like LinkedIn, and turn AI into your custom marketing team to generate more revenue and outpace the competition.

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Is AI video ready for primetime—or just a viral fad?

Kipp and Kieran dive into the explosive growth and creative possibilities of AI-generated video, and what it means for businesses and marketers in 2025. Learn more on the latest viral AI video sensations (like cats in the Olympics!), the rapid rise in quality and accessibility of tools like VO3 and Hailuo AI, and how AI is revolutionizing short-form content creation and ad personalization for every business.

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There’s a free tool that can help your brand show up more in AI-powered search results!

Kipp dives into the new playbook for winning visibility in ChatGPT, Gemini, Perplexity, and the world of zero-click searches. Learn more on how to build a custom GPT to create AI-optimized content, the unique rules for ranking in AI search engines, and the essential best practices for dominating this next era of search.

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Is your organic traffic vanishing into the AI ether?

Kipp,  Kieran, and Aja Frost (Sr. Director of Global Growth at HubSpot), dive into the huge disruption AI-powered search is having on SEO, and exactly how brands should respond if they want to stay visible in a world dominated by LLMs and AI overviews. Learn more on what’s changing in search, why LLM-driven AI search visitors are 4x more valuable than traditional search clicks, and get the playbook for optimizing your content and brand for AI-first discovery.

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Did you know that using the right AI prompt can turn a six-week creative project into a one-hour task?

Kipp and guest Jason Keath, author of “The Case for More Bad Ideas”, dive into how marketers and creators can harness the power of AI prompts to dramatically speed up – and upgrade – the creative process. Learn more on building a repeatable creative process, using AI as your ultimate creative collaborator, and five actionable AI prompts that take you from brainstorming to killer campaigns (including ad copy, content ideas, and feedback you actually need). Turn bad ideas into breakthrough marketing, iterate better, and save serious time – all in this episode!

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• Jason Keath morebadideas.com

• The Case for More Bad Ideas: The Counterintuitive Guide to Creativity https://a.co/d/7q5eqZA

• Social Fresh https://socialfresh.com/

• Claude https://claude.ai/

• Gemini https://gemini.google.com/

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For just $20 a month, you can have your own “Harvard MBA analyst” working inside your business.

Kipp and Kieran dive into the groundbreaking integration between HubSpot and OpenAI’s ChatGPT deep research, sharing why this changes the game for marketers and sales pros. Learn more on how AI-powered deep research can instantly level up sales, marketing, and customer operations with actionable insights, why this new era gives every business the ability to fully personalize sales and marketing at scale, and the exact prompts and strategies you can use to work faster, smarter, and more effectively than ever before.

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• HubSpot https://www.hubspot.com/

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In five years will the majority of social video will be AI-generated?

Kipp, Kieran, and guest Gaurav Misra, of Captions, dive into the arrival of Mirage, a new AI video tool that turns 20 days of video production into 20 minutes of creative magic. Learn more on how AI-generated avatars will change the face of marketing for SMBs, why realism and acting are the key differentiators for engaging video, and practical ways you can use AI video for ads, product demos, social content, and SEO faster and at a fraction of the cost.

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• Gaurav Misra https://www.linkedin.com/in/gamisra1/

• Captions https://www.captions.ai/

• Mirage https://www.captions.ai/mirage

• ElevenLabs https://elevenlabs.io/

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Is vibe marketing hype or the future of growth?

Kipp and Kieran dive into what marketing success looks like in the AI era, joined by Morning Brew founder Alex Lieberman. Learn more on why the old playbooks of search and email are falling short, how ‘vibe marketing’ is redefining how brands connect with audiences, and which skills and team structures actually matter for marketers looking to win in a world flooded with automation, AI, and lightning-fast creative execution.

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• Alex Lieberman https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-lieberman/

• Morning Brew https://www.morningbrew.com/

• Claude https://claude.ai/

• Zapier https://zapier.com/

• beehiiv https://www.beehiiv.com/

• Cursor https://www.cursor.com/

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“Claude’s superpower is connecting with other applications”.

Kipp and Kieran dive into the game-changing world of AI-powered marketing automation using Claude 4 Opus and app integrations.  Learn more on supercharging your marketing workflows with Zapier integrations, using AI to simulate real-time team feedback, and why the future of marketing ops lies in harnessing connected AI models.

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What if you could create a world-class presentation with just two AI prompts?

Kieran dives into how marketers, founders, and salespeople can harness the latest AI tools to instantly generate slide decks using proven expert frameworks. Learn more on selecting your ideal presentation type, using AI to tap into methodologies from the best in the business, and streamlining the entire process by plugging in brand style guides for pitch-perfect slides every single time.

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• Genspark https://www.genspark.ai/

• Claude’s Opus 4 https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus

• Ramp https://ramp.com/intelligence

• Asana https://asana.com/

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What if you could create a world-class, MBA-level marketing course on AI with a single prompt—and for free?

Kieran dives into the exact prompt and process he used to build a $200k-value AI marketing curriculum in less time than a coffee break. Learn more on crafting custom AI courses tailored to your organization, building real-world hands-on AI lessons (not just theory), and unlocking insider methods to integrate AI across every facet of your marketing team.

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• ChatGPT o3 https://openai.com/index/introducing-o3-and-o4-mini/

• ChatGPT-4 Turbo https://platform.openai.com/docs/models/gpt-4-turbo

• OpenAI Tasks https://community.openai.com/t/new-feature-tasks-beta-rolling-out/1091180

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