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    <description>Life Threads is an eight-part podcast series hosted by Professor Lynda Gratton, exploring how longevity and the future of work are reshaping our careers and lives.

Through personal stories, expert insights and thought-provoking conversations, each episode examines a different thread that contributes to a fulfilling, productive and sustained working life: mastery, cooperation, knowing, amplification, friendship, intimacy, calm and adventure.

Created as a companion to Lynda Gratton’s book Living the 100-Year Life, Life Threads offers practical ideas for navigating career transitions, relationships and personal growth over the course of a longer working life.</description>
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    <itunes:summary>Life Threads is an eight-part podcast series hosted by Professor Lynda Gratton, exploring how longevity and the future of work are reshaping our careers and lives.

Through personal stories, expert insights and thought-provoking conversations, each episode examines a different thread that contributes to a fulfilling, productive and sustained working life: mastery, cooperation, knowing, amplification, friendship, intimacy, calm and adventure.

Created as a companion to Lynda Gratton’s book Living the 100-Year Life, Life Threads offers practical ideas for navigating career transitions, relationships and personal growth over the course of a longer working life.</itunes:summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p>Life Threads is an eight-part podcast series hosted by Professor Lynda Gratton, exploring how longevity and the future of work are reshaping our careers and lives.</p>
<p>Through personal stories, expert insights and thought-provoking conversations, each episode examines a different thread that contributes to a fulfilling, productive and sustained working life: mastery, cooperation, knowing, amplification, friendship, intimacy, calm and adventure.</p>
<p>Created as a companion to Lynda Gratton’s book <em>Living the 100-Year Life</em>, Life Threads offers practical ideas for navigating career transitions, relationships and personal growth over the course of a longer working life.</p>]]>
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      <title>Intimacy with Jennifer Petriglieri and Stewart Friedman </title>
      <description>Intimacy is often treated as separate from work. But over a long working life, our closest relationships are shaped by time, ambition, care and the choices we make every day.&amp;nbsp;

In this episode of Life Threads, Lynda Gratton explores how we build and sustain close relationships alongside our working lives. She is joined by Stew Friedman, founding director of the Work/Life Integration Project at Wharton, and the Wharton Leadership Programme, and Jennifer Petriglieri, a Professor at INSEAD, whose work focuses on couples, careers and change.&amp;nbsp;

Together, they ask how intimacy can be renewed through reflection, explicit conversations, curiosity and small rituals of attention. The question is: how do we keep noticing - and choosing - the relationships that matter most?&amp;nbsp;

Host:&amp;nbsp;


  Lynda Gratton, Professor of Management Practice in Organisational Behaviour, London Business School.&amp;nbsp;




Guests:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;


  Stewart Friedman, Emeritus Practice Professor of Management,&amp;nbsp; Wharton School of Business&amp;nbsp;

  Jennifer Petriglieri, Associate Professor of Organisational Behaviour, INSEAD&amp;nbsp;


Chapters:00:38 Introduction01:34 Stew Friedman on integrating work, life and relationships20:33 Practical tools for making time for what matters27:08 Jennifer Petriglieri on navigating work and partnership35:35 Creating connection and supporting each other’s growth46:34 Four skills for lasting intimacy49:43 Lynda’s final thoughts

Mentioned in this episode:


  ⁠⁠⁠⁠Living the 100-Year Life⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Life Threads diagnostic⁠⁠⁠


Learn more:
Listen to the full episode and follow the series for more. Sign up to receive a curated selection of articles, podcasts and films direct to your inbox twice a month at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.london.edu/think?entry=true#subscribeScreen ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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      <pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2026 15:33:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Professor Lynda Gratton</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Lynda Gratton, Stew Friedman and Jennifer Petriglieri explore how to build and sustain close relationships alongside the changing demands of a long working life.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Intimacy is often treated as separate from work. But over a long working life, our closest relationships are shaped by time, ambition, care and the choices we make every day.&amp;nbsp;

In this episode of Life Threads, Lynda Gratton explores how we build and sustain close relationships alongside our working lives. She is joined by Stew Friedman, founding director of the Work/Life Integration Project at Wharton, and the Wharton Leadership Programme, and Jennifer Petriglieri, a Professor at INSEAD, whose work focuses on couples, careers and change.&amp;nbsp;

Together, they ask how intimacy can be renewed through reflection, explicit conversations, curiosity and small rituals of attention. The question is: how do we keep noticing - and choosing - the relationships that matter most?&amp;nbsp;

Host:&amp;nbsp;


  Lynda Gratton, Professor of Management Practice in Organisational Behaviour, London Business School.&amp;nbsp;




Guests:&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;


  Stewart Friedman, Emeritus Practice Professor of Management,&amp;nbsp; Wharton School of Business&amp;nbsp;

  Jennifer Petriglieri, Associate Professor of Organisational Behaviour, INSEAD&amp;nbsp;


Chapters:00:38 Introduction01:34 Stew Friedman on integrating work, life and relationships20:33 Practical tools for making time for what matters27:08 Jennifer Petriglieri on navigating work and partnership35:35 Creating connection and supporting each other’s growth46:34 Four skills for lasting intimacy49:43 Lynda’s final thoughts

Mentioned in this episode:


  ⁠⁠⁠⁠Living the 100-Year Life⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Life Threads diagnostic⁠⁠⁠


Learn more:
Listen to the full episode and follow the series for more. Sign up to receive a curated selection of articles, podcasts and films direct to your inbox twice a month at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.london.edu/think?entry=true#subscribeScreen ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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        <![CDATA[<p>Intimacy is often treated as separate from work. But over a long working life, our closest relationships are shaped by time, ambition, care and the choices we make every day.&nbsp;</p>
<p>In this episode of Life Threads, Lynda Gratton explores how we build and sustain close relationships alongside our working lives. She is joined by Stew Friedman, founding director of the Work/Life Integration Project at Wharton, and the Wharton Leadership Programme, and Jennifer Petriglieri, a Professor at INSEAD, whose work focuses on couples, careers and change.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Together, they ask how intimacy can be renewed through reflection, explicit conversations, curiosity and small rituals of attention. The question is: how do we keep noticing - and choosing - the relationships that matter most?&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Host:&nbsp;</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><p>Lynda Gratton, Professor of Management Practice in Organisational Behaviour, London Business School.&nbsp;</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Guests:&nbsp;&nbsp;</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Stewart Friedman, Emeritus Practice Professor of Management,&nbsp; Wharton School of Business&nbsp;</li>
  <li>Jennifer Petriglieri, Associate Professor of Organisational Behaviour, INSEAD&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Chapters:</strong><br>00:38 Introduction<br>01:34 Stew Friedman on integrating work, life and relationships<br>20:33 Practical tools for making time for what matters<br>27:08 Jennifer Petriglieri on navigating work and partnership<br>35:35 Creating connection and supporting each other’s growth<br>46:34 Four skills for lasting intimacy<br>49:43 Lynda’s final thoughts</p>
<p><strong>Mentioned in this episode:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.100yearlife.com/">⁠⁠⁠⁠Living the 100-Year Life⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.100yearlife.com/diagnostic/">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Life Threads diagnostic⁠⁠⁠</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Learn more:</strong>
Listen to the full episode and follow the series for more. Sign up to receive a curated selection of articles, podcasts and films direct to your inbox twice a month at ⁠⁠⁠<a href="https://www.london.edu/think?entry=true#subscribeScreen%20">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.london.edu/think?entry=true#subscribeScreen ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></p>
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      <title>Friendship with Robert Waldinger and Shirley Cramer</title>
      <description>Friendship is often treated as something we fit around the rest of life. But over a long working life, it becomes one of the relationships that most sustains us.&amp;nbsp;

In this episode of Life Threads, Lynda Gratton explores what it takes to build and maintain meaningful friendships over time. She is joined by Robert Waldinger, Director of the Harvard Study of Adult Development, whose research shows the powerful link between warm relationships, happiness and health. Later, Shirley Cramer, a long-standing friend of Lynda’s, reflects on how friendship is sustained across decades through attention, continuity and care.&amp;nbsp;

Together, they ask: who are you choosing to stay connected to?&amp;nbsp;

Host:&amp;nbsp;


  Lynda Gratton, Professor of Management Practice in Organisational Behaviour, London Business School




Guests:


  Robert Waldinger, Researcher, Author and Psychotherapist 

  Shirley Cramer CBE, former CEO of the Royal Society for Public Health 


Chapters:00:40 Introduction01:43 Robert Waldinger on friendship, happiness and health06:37 Navigating work friendships and building trust16:47 Strengthening friendships and making new connections20:49 Shirley Cramer on sustaining friendships across decades32:43 Friendship at work and creating a caring culture37:12 Four tips for lasting friendships41:24 Lynda’s final thoughts

Mentioned in this episode:


  ⁠⁠⁠Living the 100-Year Life⁠⁠⁠⁠

  ⁠⁠⁠⁠Life Threads diagnostic⁠⁠


Learn more:
Listen to the full episode and follow the series for more. Sign up to receive a curated selection of articles, podcasts and films direct to your inbox twice a month at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.london.edu/think?entry=true#subscribeScreen ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2026 15:12:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Professor Lynda Gratton</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Lynda Gratton, Robert Waldinger and Shirley Cramer explore how to build and sustain friendships that bring happiness, support and connection over a long working life.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Friendship is often treated as something we fit around the rest of life. But over a long working life, it becomes one of the relationships that most sustains us.&amp;nbsp;

In this episode of Life Threads, Lynda Gratton explores what it takes to build and maintain meaningful friendships over time. She is joined by Robert Waldinger, Director of the Harvard Study of Adult Development, whose research shows the powerful link between warm relationships, happiness and health. Later, Shirley Cramer, a long-standing friend of Lynda’s, reflects on how friendship is sustained across decades through attention, continuity and care.&amp;nbsp;

Together, they ask: who are you choosing to stay connected to?&amp;nbsp;

Host:&amp;nbsp;


  Lynda Gratton, Professor of Management Practice in Organisational Behaviour, London Business School




Guests:


  Robert Waldinger, Researcher, Author and Psychotherapist 

  Shirley Cramer CBE, former CEO of the Royal Society for Public Health 


Chapters:00:40 Introduction01:43 Robert Waldinger on friendship, happiness and health06:37 Navigating work friendships and building trust16:47 Strengthening friendships and making new connections20:49 Shirley Cramer on sustaining friendships across decades32:43 Friendship at work and creating a caring culture37:12 Four tips for lasting friendships41:24 Lynda’s final thoughts

Mentioned in this episode:


  ⁠⁠⁠Living the 100-Year Life⁠⁠⁠⁠

  ⁠⁠⁠⁠Life Threads diagnostic⁠⁠


Learn more:
Listen to the full episode and follow the series for more. Sign up to receive a curated selection of articles, podcasts and films direct to your inbox twice a month at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.london.edu/think?entry=true#subscribeScreen ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

Follow us on social media: ⁠⁠⁠

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⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/londonbschool/</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Friendship is often treated as something we fit around the rest of life. But over a long working life, it becomes one of the relationships that most sustains us.&nbsp;</p>
<p>In this episode of <em>Life Threads</em>, Lynda Gratton explores what it takes to build and maintain meaningful friendships over time. She is joined by Robert Waldinger, Director of the Harvard Study of Adult Development, whose research shows the powerful link between warm relationships, happiness and health. Later, Shirley Cramer, a long-standing friend of Lynda’s, reflects on how friendship is sustained across decades through attention, continuity and care.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Together, they ask: who are you choosing to stay connected to?&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Host:&nbsp;</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><p>Lynda Gratton, Professor of Management Practice in Organisational Behaviour, London Business School</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Guests:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Robert Waldinger, Researcher, Author and Psychotherapist </li>
  <li>Shirley Cramer CBE, former CEO of the Royal Society for Public Health </li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Chapters:</strong><br>00:40 Introduction<br>01:43 Robert Waldinger on friendship, happiness and health<br>06:37 Navigating work friendships and building trust<br>16:47 Strengthening friendships and making new connections<br>20:49 Shirley Cramer on sustaining friendships across decades<br>32:43 Friendship at work and creating a caring culture<br>37:12 Four tips for lasting friendships<br>41:24 Lynda’s final thoughts</p>
<p><strong>Mentioned in this episode:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.100yearlife.com/">⁠⁠⁠Living the 100-Year Life⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.100yearlife.com/diagnostic/">⁠⁠⁠⁠Life Threads diagnostic⁠⁠</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Learn more:</strong>
Listen to the full episode and follow the series for more. Sign up to receive a curated selection of articles, podcasts and films direct to your inbox twice a month at ⁠⁠⁠<a href="https://www.london.edu/think?entry=true#subscribeScreen%20">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.london.edu/think?entry=true#subscribeScreen ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></p>
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<p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/londonbschool/">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/londonbschool/</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Amplification with Dorie Clark and Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic</title>
      <description>Technology isn’t just disruptive; it can extend our capabilities and magnify what makes us unique at work. As AI makes routine tasks easier, our distinctiveness - judgment, relationships, expertise - matters more. The real question is, what will you choose to amplify, and what will you keep human?

In this episode, Lynda Gratton explores how technology can enhance a long working life, featuring psychologist Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic and Top 50 Business Thinker, Dorie Clark. They discuss practical ways to use tech to extend reach, reputation, and impact, and why deliberate choices are key to thriving in the age of AI.

Host:


  Lynda Gratton, Professor of Management Practice in Organisational Behaviour, London Business School


Guests: 


  &amp;nbsp;Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic, Psychologist, author and entrepreneur

  Dorie Clark, Best-selling author and Top 50 Business Thinker


Chapters:00:50 Introduction02:00 Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic on AI and the future of work12:58 Amplifying your capabilities and staying distinctive21:23 Dorie Clark on reach, reputation and career opportunities34:34 Staying human and playing the long game41:55 Four tips for amplification46:44 Lynda’s final thoughts

Mentioned in this episode:


  ⁠⁠Living the 100-Year Life⁠⁠⁠

  ⁠⁠⁠Life Threads diagnostic⁠


Learn more:
Listen to the full episode and follow the series for more. Sign up to receive a curated selection of articles, podcasts and films direct to your inbox twice a month at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.london.edu/think?entry=true#subscribeScreen ⁠⁠⁠⁠

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⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/londonbschool/</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2026 13:19:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Professor Lynda Gratton</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Lynda Gratton, Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic and Dorie Clark explore how technology can amplify our capabilities, reach and impact over a long working life.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Technology isn’t just disruptive; it can extend our capabilities and magnify what makes us unique at work. As AI makes routine tasks easier, our distinctiveness - judgment, relationships, expertise - matters more. The real question is, what will you choose to amplify, and what will you keep human?

In this episode, Lynda Gratton explores how technology can enhance a long working life, featuring psychologist Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic and Top 50 Business Thinker, Dorie Clark. They discuss practical ways to use tech to extend reach, reputation, and impact, and why deliberate choices are key to thriving in the age of AI.

Host:


  Lynda Gratton, Professor of Management Practice in Organisational Behaviour, London Business School


Guests: 


  &amp;nbsp;Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic, Psychologist, author and entrepreneur

  Dorie Clark, Best-selling author and Top 50 Business Thinker


Chapters:00:50 Introduction02:00 Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic on AI and the future of work12:58 Amplifying your capabilities and staying distinctive21:23 Dorie Clark on reach, reputation and career opportunities34:34 Staying human and playing the long game41:55 Four tips for amplification46:44 Lynda’s final thoughts

Mentioned in this episode:


  ⁠⁠Living the 100-Year Life⁠⁠⁠

  ⁠⁠⁠Life Threads diagnostic⁠


Learn more:
Listen to the full episode and follow the series for more. Sign up to receive a curated selection of articles, podcasts and films direct to your inbox twice a month at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.london.edu/think?entry=true#subscribeScreen ⁠⁠⁠⁠

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⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/londonbschool/</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Technology isn’t just disruptive; it can extend our capabilities and magnify what makes us unique at work. As AI makes routine tasks easier, our distinctiveness - judgment, relationships, expertise - matters more. The real question is, what will you choose to amplify, and what will you keep human?</p>
<p>In this episode, Lynda Gratton explores how technology can enhance a long working life, featuring psychologist Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic and Top 50 Business Thinker, Dorie Clark. They discuss practical ways to use tech to extend reach, reputation, and impact, and why deliberate choices are key to thriving in the age of AI.</p>
<p><strong>Host:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Lynda Gratton, Professor of Management Practice in Organisational Behaviour, London Business School</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Guests: </strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>&nbsp;Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic, Psychologist, author and entrepreneur</li>
  <li>Dorie Clark, Best-selling author and Top 50 Business Thinker</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Chapters:</strong><br>00:50 Introduction<br>02:00 Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic on AI and the future of work<br>12:58 Amplifying your capabilities and staying distinctive<br>21:23 Dorie Clark on reach, reputation and career opportunities<br>34:34 Staying human and playing the long game<br>41:55 Four tips for amplification<br>46:44 Lynda’s final thoughts</p>
<p><strong>Mentioned in this episode:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.100yearlife.com/">⁠⁠Living the 100-Year Life⁠⁠⁠</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.100yearlife.com/diagnostic/">⁠⁠⁠Life Threads diagnostic⁠</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Learn more:</strong>
Listen to the full episode and follow the series for more. Sign up to receive a curated selection of articles, podcasts and films direct to your inbox twice a month at ⁠⁠⁠<a href="https://www.london.edu/think?entry=true#subscribeScreen%20">⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.london.edu/think?entry=true#subscribeScreen ⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></p>
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      <title>Knowing with Julia Gillard and Selin Kesebir</title>
      <description>What does it really mean to know something?

In this episode, Lynda Gratton explores the difference between gathering information and truly knowing, with insights from Selin Kesebir, Associate Professor at London Business School, and Julia Gillard, former Prime Minister of Australia.

Selin reveals how deep understanding grows not just from facts, but from experience, reflection and openness to change. Julia shares how pivotal moments and setbacks transformed her perspective and identity. Together, they discuss how self-knowledge develops through challenge, contrast with others, and learning from setbacks - and how wisdom emerges over a long working life through connection and compassion.

This episode delves into why knowing is more than information: it’s a shift that shapes how we think, act and relate to others.

Host:


  Lynda Gratton, Professor of Management Practice in Organisational Behaviour, London Business School


Guests:


  Selin Kesebir, Associate Professor of Organisational Behaviour, London Business School

  Julia Gillard, 27th Prime Minister of Australia


Mentioned in this episode:


  ⁠Living the 100-Year Life⁠⁠

  ⁠⁠Life Threads diagnostic⁠


Chapters:

00:42 Introduction

01:47 The difference between knowing and information

06:02 The role of self-knowledge

21:50 Julia Gillard on learning through experience

30:30 Knowing what really matters

42:06 Four takeaways for deeper knowing

30:10 Lynda’s final thoughts

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      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2026 10:27:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Professor Lynda Gratton</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Lynda Gratton, Selin Kesebir and Julia Gillard explore how experience, reflection and setbacks deepen our understanding of ourselves and others.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>What does it really mean to know something?

In this episode, Lynda Gratton explores the difference between gathering information and truly knowing, with insights from Selin Kesebir, Associate Professor at London Business School, and Julia Gillard, former Prime Minister of Australia.

Selin reveals how deep understanding grows not just from facts, but from experience, reflection and openness to change. Julia shares how pivotal moments and setbacks transformed her perspective and identity. Together, they discuss how self-knowledge develops through challenge, contrast with others, and learning from setbacks - and how wisdom emerges over a long working life through connection and compassion.

This episode delves into why knowing is more than information: it’s a shift that shapes how we think, act and relate to others.

Host:


  Lynda Gratton, Professor of Management Practice in Organisational Behaviour, London Business School


Guests:


  Selin Kesebir, Associate Professor of Organisational Behaviour, London Business School

  Julia Gillard, 27th Prime Minister of Australia


Mentioned in this episode:


  ⁠Living the 100-Year Life⁠⁠

  ⁠⁠Life Threads diagnostic⁠


Chapters:

00:42 Introduction

01:47 The difference between knowing and information

06:02 The role of self-knowledge

21:50 Julia Gillard on learning through experience

30:30 Knowing what really matters

42:06 Four takeaways for deeper knowing

30:10 Lynda’s final thoughts

Learn more:
Listen to the full episode and follow the series for more. Sign up to receive a curated selection of articles, podcasts and films direct to your inbox twice a month at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.london.edu/think?entry=true#subscribeScreen ⁠⁠⁠

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        <![CDATA[<p>What does it really mean to know something?</p>
<p>In this episode, Lynda Gratton explores the difference between gathering information and truly knowing, with insights from Selin Kesebir, Associate Professor at London Business School, and Julia Gillard, former Prime Minister of Australia.</p>
<p>Selin reveals how deep understanding grows not just from facts, but from experience, reflection and openness to change. Julia shares how pivotal moments and setbacks transformed her perspective and identity. Together, they discuss how self-knowledge develops through challenge, contrast with others, and learning from setbacks - and how wisdom emerges over a long working life through connection and compassion.</p>
<p>This episode delves into why knowing is more than information: it’s a shift that shapes how we think, act and relate to others.</p>
<p><strong>Host:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Lynda Gratton, Professor of Management Practice in Organisational Behaviour, London Business School</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Guests:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Selin Kesebir, Associate Professor of Organisational Behaviour, London Business School</li>
  <li>Julia Gillard, 27th Prime Minister of Australia</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Mentioned in this episode:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.100yearlife.com/">⁠Living the 100-Year Life⁠⁠</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.100yearlife.com/diagnostic/">⁠⁠Life Threads diagnostic⁠</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Chapters:</strong></p>
<p>00:42 Introduction</p>
<p>01:47 The difference between knowing and information</p>
<p>06:02 The role of self-knowledge</p>
<p>21:50 Julia Gillard on learning through experience</p>
<p>30:30 Knowing what really matters</p>
<p>42:06 Four takeaways for deeper knowing</p>
<p>30:10 Lynda’s final thoughts</p>
<p><strong>Learn more:</strong>
Listen to the full episode and follow the series for more. Sign up to receive a curated selection of articles, podcasts and films direct to your inbox twice a month at ⁠⁠⁠<a href="https://www.london.edu/think?entry=true#subscribeScreen%20">⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.london.edu/think?entry=true#subscribeScreen ⁠⁠⁠</a></p>
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<p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/londonbschool/">⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/londonbschool/</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Co-operation with Alex Beard</title>
      <description>What can world-class opera and ballet teach us about cooperation? In this episode, Lynda Gratton sits down with Sir Alex Beard, Chief Executive of the Royal Ballet and Opera, to explore the teamwork, trust and shared standards behind every performance.

Alex reveals what happens behind the curtain, where hundreds of musicians, performers, designers, technicians and front-of-house staff work together to create something that appears effortless. He explains how immediate, actionable feedback helps even the most celebrated performers continue to grow, and why trust is essential when every role depends on another.

From responding to last-minute setbacks to taking creative risks, this episode explores how radical cooperation enables resilience, innovation and extraordinary work – and what leaders in any organisation can learn from the ultimate team sport.

Host:


  Lynda Gratton, Professor of Management Practice in Organisational Behaviour, London Business School


Guest:


  Sir Alex Beard CBE, Chief Executive, Royal Ballet and Opera


Mentioned in this episode:


  Living the 100-Year Life

  Life Threads diagnostic


Chapters:

00:00 Introduction

01:47 The invisible performance: what happens behind the curtain

08:45 The power of feedback and notes

13:13 Trust, team curation and process

18:39 Innovation and taking creative risks

28:55 Four takeaways for radical cooperation

30:25 Lynda’s final thoughts



Learn more:
Listen to the full episode and follow the series for more.&amp;nbsp;

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      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2026 10:25:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Professor Lynda Gratton</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Lynda Gratton and Sir Alex Beard explore trust, feedback and the teamwork behind world-class performance.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>What can world-class opera and ballet teach us about cooperation? In this episode, Lynda Gratton sits down with Sir Alex Beard, Chief Executive of the Royal Ballet and Opera, to explore the teamwork, trust and shared standards behind every performance.

Alex reveals what happens behind the curtain, where hundreds of musicians, performers, designers, technicians and front-of-house staff work together to create something that appears effortless. He explains how immediate, actionable feedback helps even the most celebrated performers continue to grow, and why trust is essential when every role depends on another.

From responding to last-minute setbacks to taking creative risks, this episode explores how radical cooperation enables resilience, innovation and extraordinary work – and what leaders in any organisation can learn from the ultimate team sport.

Host:


  Lynda Gratton, Professor of Management Practice in Organisational Behaviour, London Business School


Guest:


  Sir Alex Beard CBE, Chief Executive, Royal Ballet and Opera


Mentioned in this episode:


  Living the 100-Year Life

  Life Threads diagnostic


Chapters:

00:00 Introduction

01:47 The invisible performance: what happens behind the curtain

08:45 The power of feedback and notes

13:13 Trust, team curation and process

18:39 Innovation and taking creative risks

28:55 Four takeaways for radical cooperation

30:25 Lynda’s final thoughts



Learn more:
Listen to the full episode and follow the series for more.&amp;nbsp;

Sign up to receive a curated selection of articles, podcasts and films direct to your inbox twice a month at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.london.edu/think?entry=true#subscribeScreen ⁠

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⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/londonbschool/</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>What can world-class opera and ballet teach us about cooperation? In this episode, Lynda Gratton sits down with Sir Alex Beard, Chief Executive of the Royal Ballet and Opera, to explore the teamwork, trust and shared standards behind every performance.</p>
<p>Alex reveals what happens behind the curtain, where hundreds of musicians, performers, designers, technicians and front-of-house staff work together to create something that appears effortless. He explains how immediate, actionable feedback helps even the most celebrated performers continue to grow, and why trust is essential when every role depends on another.</p>
<p>From responding to last-minute setbacks to taking creative risks, this episode explores how radical cooperation enables resilience, innovation and extraordinary work – and what leaders in any organisation can learn from the ultimate team sport.</p>
<p><strong>Host:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Lynda Gratton, Professor of Management Practice in Organisational Behaviour, London Business School</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Guest:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Sir Alex Beard CBE, Chief Executive, Royal Ballet and Opera</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Mentioned in this episode:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><a href="https://www.100yearlife.com/">Living the 100-Year Life</a></li>
  <li><a href="https://www.100yearlife.com/diagnostic/">Life Threads diagnostic</a></li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Chapters:</strong></p>
<p>00:00 Introduction</p>
<p>01:47 The invisible performance: what happens behind the curtain</p>
<p>08:45 The power of feedback and notes</p>
<p>13:13 Trust, team curation and process</p>
<p>18:39 Innovation and taking creative risks</p>
<p>28:55 Four takeaways for radical cooperation</p>
<p>30:25 Lynda’s final thoughts</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Learn more:</strong>
Listen to the full episode and follow the series for more.&nbsp;

Sign up to receive a curated selection of articles, podcasts and films direct to your inbox twice a month at ⁠⁠⁠<a href="https://www.london.edu/think?entry=true#subscribeScreen%20">⁠⁠https://www.london.edu/think?entry=true#subscribeScreen ⁠</a></p>
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<p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/londonbschool/">⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/londonbschool/</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Mastery with Grayson Perry and Herminia Ibarra</title>
      <description>What does it really mean to master something&amp;nbsp;-&amp;nbsp;and why does mastery keep changing? In this episode, Lynda Gratton sits down with Turner Prize-winning artist Sir Grayson Perry and&amp;nbsp;leadership and career transition&amp;nbsp;expert Herminia Ibarra for a&amp;nbsp;conversation about creativity, reinvention, and staying relevant in a fast-changing world.&amp;nbsp;

Grayson Perry&amp;nbsp;talks about&amp;nbsp;identity,&amp;nbsp;the impact of&amp;nbsp;option&amp;nbsp;paralysis on creativity, and why&amp;nbsp;he’s&amp;nbsp;not worried about AI replacing artists. Herminia Ibarra shares why being great at your job could&amp;nbsp;actually hold&amp;nbsp;you back, how to escape a “competency trap,” and what it takes to reinvent your career&amp;nbsp;-&amp;nbsp;even when&amp;nbsp;you’re&amp;nbsp;not sure&amp;nbsp;what’s&amp;nbsp;next.&amp;nbsp;

From the risks of sticking with what you know, to the courage it takes to start over, this episode&amp;nbsp;is full of&amp;nbsp;real stories, practical advice, and surprising insights on how to keep your career&amp;nbsp;-&amp;nbsp;and yourself&amp;nbsp;-&amp;nbsp;moving forward.&amp;nbsp;

Host:&amp;nbsp;


  Lynda Gratton, Professor of Management Practice in Organisational Behaviour, London Business School.&amp;nbsp;


Guests:&amp;nbsp;


  Sir Grayson Perry, artist,&amp;nbsp;writer&amp;nbsp;and broadcaster&amp;nbsp;

  Herminia Ibarra, Charles Handy Chair in Organisational Behaviour and Professor of Organisational Behaviour, London Business School.&amp;nbsp;


Mentioned in this episode:&amp;nbsp;


  Living the 100-Year Life&amp;nbsp;





  Life Threads&amp;nbsp;diagnostic&amp;nbsp;





  Working&amp;nbsp;Identity&amp;nbsp;





  Act Like a&amp;nbsp;Leader, Think Like a Leader&amp;nbsp;





  Grayson Perry musical&amp;nbsp;




Chapters:

00:00 Introduction

02:00 Grayson Perry on art, craft and learning new skills

11:01 The difference between a hobby and a career

15:00 Identity, authenticity and mental health

29:15 Herminia Ibarra on career transitions and networks

40:38 The cost and trap of mastery



Learn more:
Listen to the full episode and follow the series for more.&amp;nbsp;

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      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2026 06:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Professor Lynda Gratton</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Lynda Gratton, Grayson Perry and Herminia Ibarra explore creativity, career reinvention and why expertise must keep evolving.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>What does it really mean to master something&amp;nbsp;-&amp;nbsp;and why does mastery keep changing? In this episode, Lynda Gratton sits down with Turner Prize-winning artist Sir Grayson Perry and&amp;nbsp;leadership and career transition&amp;nbsp;expert Herminia Ibarra for a&amp;nbsp;conversation about creativity, reinvention, and staying relevant in a fast-changing world.&amp;nbsp;

Grayson Perry&amp;nbsp;talks about&amp;nbsp;identity,&amp;nbsp;the impact of&amp;nbsp;option&amp;nbsp;paralysis on creativity, and why&amp;nbsp;he’s&amp;nbsp;not worried about AI replacing artists. Herminia Ibarra shares why being great at your job could&amp;nbsp;actually hold&amp;nbsp;you back, how to escape a “competency trap,” and what it takes to reinvent your career&amp;nbsp;-&amp;nbsp;even when&amp;nbsp;you’re&amp;nbsp;not sure&amp;nbsp;what’s&amp;nbsp;next.&amp;nbsp;

From the risks of sticking with what you know, to the courage it takes to start over, this episode&amp;nbsp;is full of&amp;nbsp;real stories, practical advice, and surprising insights on how to keep your career&amp;nbsp;-&amp;nbsp;and yourself&amp;nbsp;-&amp;nbsp;moving forward.&amp;nbsp;

Host:&amp;nbsp;


  Lynda Gratton, Professor of Management Practice in Organisational Behaviour, London Business School.&amp;nbsp;


Guests:&amp;nbsp;


  Sir Grayson Perry, artist,&amp;nbsp;writer&amp;nbsp;and broadcaster&amp;nbsp;

  Herminia Ibarra, Charles Handy Chair in Organisational Behaviour and Professor of Organisational Behaviour, London Business School.&amp;nbsp;


Mentioned in this episode:&amp;nbsp;


  Living the 100-Year Life&amp;nbsp;





  Life Threads&amp;nbsp;diagnostic&amp;nbsp;





  Working&amp;nbsp;Identity&amp;nbsp;





  Act Like a&amp;nbsp;Leader, Think Like a Leader&amp;nbsp;





  Grayson Perry musical&amp;nbsp;




Chapters:

00:00 Introduction

02:00 Grayson Perry on art, craft and learning new skills

11:01 The difference between a hobby and a career

15:00 Identity, authenticity and mental health

29:15 Herminia Ibarra on career transitions and networks

40:38 The cost and trap of mastery



Learn more:
Listen to the full episode and follow the series for more.&amp;nbsp;

Sign up to receive a curated selection of articles, podcasts and films direct to your inbox twice a month at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.london.edu/think?entry=true#subscribeScreen 


Follow us on social media: ⁠⁠⁠

⁠https://www.linkedin.com/school/london-business-school/⁠

⁠https://www.instagram.com/londonbschool/</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>What does it really mean to master something&nbsp;-&nbsp;and why does mastery keep changing? In this episode, Lynda Gratton sits down with Turner Prize-winning artist Sir Grayson Perry and&nbsp;leadership and career transition&nbsp;expert Herminia Ibarra for a&nbsp;conversation about creativity, reinvention, and staying relevant in a fast-changing world.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Grayson Perry&nbsp;talks about&nbsp;identity,&nbsp;the impact of&nbsp;option&nbsp;paralysis on creativity, and why&nbsp;he’s&nbsp;not worried about AI replacing artists. Herminia Ibarra shares why being great at your job could&nbsp;actually hold&nbsp;you back, how to escape a “competency trap,” and what it takes to reinvent your career&nbsp;-&nbsp;even when&nbsp;you’re&nbsp;not sure&nbsp;what’s&nbsp;next.&nbsp;</p>
<p>From the risks of sticking with what you know, to the courage it takes to start over, this episode&nbsp;is full of&nbsp;real stories, practical advice, and surprising insights on how to keep your career&nbsp;-&nbsp;and yourself&nbsp;-&nbsp;moving forward.&nbsp;</p>
<p><strong>Host:&nbsp;</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Lynda Gratton, Professor of Management Practice in Organisational Behaviour, London Business School.&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Guests:&nbsp;</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Sir Grayson Perry, artist,&nbsp;writer&nbsp;and broadcaster&nbsp;</li>
  <li>Herminia Ibarra, Charles Handy Chair in Organisational Behaviour and Professor of Organisational Behaviour, London Business School.&nbsp;</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Mentioned in this episode:&nbsp;</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li><p><a href="https://www.100yearlife.com/"><u>Living the 100-Year Life</u></a>&nbsp;</p>
</li>
</ul>
<ul>
  <li><p><a href="https://www.100yearlife.com/diagnostic/"><u>Life Threads&nbsp;diagnostic</u></a>&nbsp;</p>
</li>
</ul>
<ul>
  <li><p><a href="https://herminiaibarra.com/working-identity-book/"><u>Working&nbsp;Identity</u></a>&nbsp;</p>
</li>
</ul>
<ul>
  <li><p><a href="https://herminiaibarra.com/act-like-a-leader-think-like-a-leader-book/"><u>Act Like a&nbsp;Leader, Think Like a Leader</u></a>&nbsp;</p>
</li>
</ul>
<ul>
  <li><p><a href="https://graysonthemusical.co.uk/"><u>Grayson Perry musical</u></a>&nbsp;</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Chapters:</strong></p>
<p>00:00 Introduction</p>
<p>02:00 Grayson Perry on art, craft and learning new skills</p>
<p>11:01 The difference between a hobby and a career</p>
<p>15:00 Identity, authenticity and mental health</p>
<p>29:15 Herminia Ibarra on career transitions and networks</p>
<p>40:38 The cost and trap of mastery</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Learn more:</strong>
Listen to the full episode and follow the series for more.&nbsp;

Sign up to receive a curated selection of articles, podcasts and films direct to your inbox twice a month at ⁠⁠⁠<a href="https://www.london.edu/think?entry=true#subscribeScreen%20">⁠https://www.london.edu/think?entry=true#subscribeScreen </a>
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