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      <title>Episode 22: What Does Heaven Sound Like?</title>
      <description>Description: Kids! Our second annual podcast with the wisest voices among us. Treat yourself to the refreshing perspective of these little angels, reminding us that the sounds of heaven are all around.

Special thanks to the kids from across several states who participated in the fun! And of course, to the parents and teachers who are right by their side, cheering them on and honored to do so.</description>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Description: Kids! Our second annual podcast with the wisest voices among us. Treat yourself to the refreshing perspective of these little angels, reminding us that the sounds of heaven are all around. Special thanks to the kids from across several states who participated in the fun! And of course, to the parents and teachers who are right by their side, cheering them on and honored to do so.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Description: Kids! Our second annual podcast with the wisest voices among us. Treat yourself to the refreshing perspective of these little angels, reminding us that the sounds of heaven are all around.

Special thanks to the kids from across several states who participated in the fun! And of course, to the parents and teachers who are right by their side, cheering them on and honored to do so.</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Episode 21: Tu Pueblo Canta: Treasure of Our Faith</title>
      <description>Description: We are getting excited for our first ever all-Spanish language hymnal! Returning to the podcast is our Editor of Spanish and Bilingual Resources, Peter Kolar, to discuss highlights that are sure to find a welcome home in every parish throughout this nation. ¡Vamos!Bio: Peter Kolar is the Editor for Spanish and Bilingual Resources at GIA Publications. An accomplished composer and pianist, his works include the bilingual mass setting, Misa Luna, sung at the papal liturgy in Philadelphia, and a solo classical piano CD Variations. Known for his creative use of both classical and Latin-American musical forms, Peter holds a masters degree in music composition from Northwestern University and sits on the board of directors for the Southwest Liturgical Conference. He resides in El Paso, TX, where he is the Director of the El Paso Diocesan Choir.

From the Committee: Tu Pueblo Canta is more than a book. It is a treasure:*a treasure that enshrines the journey of the Hispanic/Latin-American people, radiates their love of tradition, and gleams well into the future for those who will behold, learn from, and improve upon its musical riches;*a treasure that reflects the toils and labors of a diligent and dedicated people whose faith both propels their daily toil and offers refuge from it;*a treasure that shimmers in the kaleidoscope of creation’s diversity, with pride and appreciation for Latinos across the globe who have somehow found community in a Spanish-language Mass offered at a local church or parish;*a treasure that proclaims dignity, affirms worth, and asserts God’s image to those facing op-pression, segregation, indifference and active aggression from within society and institutions;*a treasure that blankets and protects as a divine loving mother’s mantel against pain and misery, a balm of comfort for the weary;*a treasure whose pages will be held in sacred hands, just as the priest holds the illustrious sacred ritual books of the Mass, with a tangible weight and depth, at once timely and timeless;*a treasure whose adorning art increases the beauty of the sacred space it will occupy, befitting its place within God’s sanctuary;*a treasure whose sung words will teach the faith, challenge worldly precepts, and compel afervent lived discipleship;*a treasure whose melodies will uplift the spirit and soul, carrying heavenward the prayers of the gathered community;*a treasure whose embedded styles, character and rhythms will touch the heart once fullyeffectuated in breath and voice;*a treasure that will inspire future musicians, authors and composers to willingly offer their Spirit-fed gifts for the sake of the Church because of an ecclesial ecosystem that invites and upholds such contributions as essential to the Catholic liturgy;*and finally, a treasure that both reflects and illumines faith so that it is overflowing with life and steeped in resurrection joy. It is with grateful hearts that we, the members of the hymnal committee, offer Tu Pueblo Canta for the sake of our broader family of Spanish-speaking faithful. This hymnal was born of the desire to serve the people of God in the most elevated and dignified way possible. At its core, it is a labor love by the people, for the people. We have every confidence that Tu Pueblo Canta will become a source of profound faith and joy for your community—a shared keepsake to be cherished and treasured.—Tu Pueblo Canta Hymnal Committee

Music in this episode:

Eso Me Basta: https://giamusic.com/resource/eso-me-basta-senor-cdthilletcorrea-recording-012614

Tesoros Ocultos: https://giamusic.com/resource/tesoros-ocultostreasures-out-of-darknessreveringarr-kolar-print-012671

Porque Su Amor Es Eterno: https://giamusic.com/resource/porque-su-amor-es-eterno-print-g9186

Un Mandamiento Nuevo: https://giamusic.com/resource/un-mandamiento-nuevo-i-give-you-a-new-commandment-print-g10518

Ave Maria: https://giamusic.com/resource/ave-mariarubalcava-print-012722

Caminemos Con Jesus: https://giamusic.com/resource/caminemos-con-jesys-print-g10077</description>
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      <itunes:subtitle>We are getting excited for our first ever all-Spanish language hymnal! Returning to the podcast is our Editor of Spanish and Bilingual Resources, Peter Kolar, to discuss highlights that are sure to find a welcome home in every parish throughout this nation. ¡Vamos!Bio: Peter Kolar is the Editor for Spanish and Bilingual Resources at GIA Publications. An accomplished composer and pianist, his works include the bilingual mass setting, Misa Luna, sung at the papal liturgy in Philadelphia, and a solo classical piano CD Variations. Known for his creative use of both classical and Latin-American musical forms, Peter holds a masters degree in music composition from Northwestern University and sits on the board of directors for the Southwest Liturgical Conference. He resides in El Paso, TX, where he is the Director of the El Paso Diocesan Choir.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Description: We are getting excited for our first ever all-Spanish language hymnal! Returning to the podcast is our Editor of Spanish and Bilingual Resources, Peter Kolar, to discuss highlights that are sure to find a welcome home in every parish throughout this nation. ¡Vamos!Bio: Peter Kolar is the Editor for Spanish and Bilingual Resources at GIA Publications. An accomplished composer and pianist, his works include the bilingual mass setting, Misa Luna, sung at the papal liturgy in Philadelphia, and a solo classical piano CD Variations. Known for his creative use of both classical and Latin-American musical forms, Peter holds a masters degree in music composition from Northwestern University and sits on the board of directors for the Southwest Liturgical Conference. He resides in El Paso, TX, where he is the Director of the El Paso Diocesan Choir.

From the Committee: Tu Pueblo Canta is more than a book. It is a treasure:*a treasure that enshrines the journey of the Hispanic/Latin-American people, radiates their love of tradition, and gleams well into the future for those who will behold, learn from, and improve upon its musical riches;*a treasure that reflects the toils and labors of a diligent and dedicated people whose faith both propels their daily toil and offers refuge from it;*a treasure that shimmers in the kaleidoscope of creation’s diversity, with pride and appreciation for Latinos across the globe who have somehow found community in a Spanish-language Mass offered at a local church or parish;*a treasure that proclaims dignity, affirms worth, and asserts God’s image to those facing op-pression, segregation, indifference and active aggression from within society and institutions;*a treasure that blankets and protects as a divine loving mother’s mantel against pain and misery, a balm of comfort for the weary;*a treasure whose pages will be held in sacred hands, just as the priest holds the illustrious sacred ritual books of the Mass, with a tangible weight and depth, at once timely and timeless;*a treasure whose adorning art increases the beauty of the sacred space it will occupy, befitting its place within God’s sanctuary;*a treasure whose sung words will teach the faith, challenge worldly precepts, and compel afervent lived discipleship;*a treasure whose melodies will uplift the spirit and soul, carrying heavenward the prayers of the gathered community;*a treasure whose embedded styles, character and rhythms will touch the heart once fullyeffectuated in breath and voice;*a treasure that will inspire future musicians, authors and composers to willingly offer their Spirit-fed gifts for the sake of the Church because of an ecclesial ecosystem that invites and upholds such contributions as essential to the Catholic liturgy;*and finally, a treasure that both reflects and illumines faith so that it is overflowing with life and steeped in resurrection joy. It is with grateful hearts that we, the members of the hymnal committee, offer Tu Pueblo Canta for the sake of our broader family of Spanish-speaking faithful. This hymnal was born of the desire to serve the people of God in the most elevated and dignified way possible. At its core, it is a labor love by the people, for the people. We have every confidence that Tu Pueblo Canta will become a source of profound faith and joy for your community—a shared keepsake to be cherished and treasured.—Tu Pueblo Canta Hymnal Committee

Music in this episode:

Eso Me Basta: https://giamusic.com/resource/eso-me-basta-senor-cdthilletcorrea-recording-012614

Tesoros Ocultos: https://giamusic.com/resource/tesoros-ocultostreasures-out-of-darknessreveringarr-kolar-print-012671

Porque Su Amor Es Eterno: https://giamusic.com/resource/porque-su-amor-es-eterno-print-g9186

Un Mandamiento Nuevo: https://giamusic.com/resource/un-mandamiento-nuevo-i-give-you-a-new-commandment-print-g10518

Ave Maria: https://giamusic.com/resource/ave-mariarubalcava-print-012722

Caminemos Con Jesus: https://giamusic.com/resource/caminemos-con-jesys-print-g10077</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Description: We are getting excited for our first ever all-Spanish language hymnal! Returning to the podcast is our Editor of Spanish and Bilingual Resources, Peter Kolar, to discuss highlights that are sure to find a welcome home in every parish throughout this nation. ¡Vamos!Bio: Peter Kolar is the Editor for Spanish and Bilingual Resources at GIA Publications. An accomplished composer and pianist, his works include the bilingual mass setting, Misa Luna, sung at the papal liturgy in Philadelphia, and a solo classical piano CD Variations. Known for his creative use of both classical and Latin-American musical forms, Peter holds a masters degree in music composition from Northwestern University and sits on the board of directors for the Southwest Liturgical Conference. He resides in El Paso, TX, where he is the Director of the El Paso Diocesan Choir.</p>
<p>From the Committee: Tu Pueblo Canta is more than a book. It is a treasure:<br>*a treasure that enshrines the journey of the Hispanic/Latin-American people, radiates their love of tradition, and gleams well into the future for those who will behold, learn from, and improve upon its musical riches;<br>*a treasure that reflects the toils and labors of a diligent and dedicated people whose faith both propels their daily toil and offers refuge from it;<br>*a treasure that shimmers in the kaleidoscope of creation’s diversity, with pride and appreciation for Latinos across the globe who have somehow found community in a Spanish-language Mass offered at a local church or parish;<br>*a treasure that proclaims dignity, affirms worth, and asserts God’s image to those facing op-<br>pression, segregation, indifference and active aggression from within society and institutions;<br>*a treasure that blankets and protects as a divine loving mother’s mantel against pain and misery, a balm of comfort for the weary;<br>*a treasure whose pages will be held in sacred hands, just as the priest holds the illustrious sacred ritual books of the Mass, with a tangible weight and depth, at once timely and timeless;<br>*a treasure whose adorning art increases the beauty of the sacred space it will occupy, befitting its place within God’s sanctuary;<br>*a treasure whose sung words will teach the faith, challenge worldly precepts, and compel a<br>fervent lived discipleship;<br>*a treasure whose melodies will uplift the spirit and soul, carrying heavenward the prayers of the gathered community;<br>*a treasure whose embedded styles, character and rhythms will touch the heart once fully<br>effectuated in breath and voice;<br>*a treasure that will inspire future musicians, authors and composers to willingly offer their Spirit-fed gifts for the sake of the Church because of an ecclesial ecosystem that invites and upholds such contributions as essential to the Catholic liturgy;<br>*and finally, a treasure that both reflects and illumines faith so that it is overflowing with life and steeped in resurrection joy. <br>It is with grateful hearts that we, the members of the hymnal committee, offer Tu Pueblo Canta for the sake of our broader family of Spanish-speaking faithful. This hymnal was born of the desire to serve the people of God in the most elevated and dignified way possible. At its core, it is a labor love by the people, for the people. We have every confidence that Tu Pueblo Canta will become a source of profound faith and joy for your community—a shared keepsake to be cherished and treasured.<br>—Tu Pueblo Canta Hymnal Committee</p>
<p><br>Music in this episode:</p>
<p>Eso Me Basta: <a href="https://giamusic.com/resource/eso-me-basta-senor-cdthilletcorrea-recording-012614">https://giamusic.com/resource/eso-me-basta-senor-cdthilletcorrea-recording-012614</a></p>
<p>Tesoros Ocultos: <a href="https://giamusic.com/resource/tesoros-ocultostreasures-out-of-darknessreveringarr-kolar-print-012671">https://giamusic.com/resource/tesoros-ocultostreasures-out-of-darknessreveringarr-kolar-print-012671</a></p>
<p>Porque Su Amor Es Eterno: <a href="https://giamusic.com/resource/porque-su-amor-es-eterno-print-g9186">https://giamusic.com/resource/porque-su-amor-es-eterno-print-g9186</a></p>
<p>Un Mandamiento Nuevo: <a href="https://giamusic.com/resource/un-mandamiento-nuevo-i-give-you-a-new-commandment-print-g10518">https://giamusic.com/resource/un-mandamiento-nuevo-i-give-you-a-new-commandment-print-g10518</a></p>
<p>Ave Maria: <a href="https://giamusic.com/resource/ave-mariarubalcava-print-012722">https://giamusic.com/resource/ave-mariarubalcava-print-012722</a></p>
<p>Caminemos Con Jesus: <a href="https://giamusic.com/resource/caminemos-con-jesys-print-g10077">https://giamusic.com/resource/caminemos-con-jesys-print-g10077</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 20: Believe Women</title>
      <description>March is Women's History Month, and boy (pun intended), are we in the midst of some history being made by women. Whether it is the national and international headlines made by survivors of Epstein's abuse, or the closer-to-home allegations of abusers in sacred spaces, the #metoo, #churchtoo movements (spearheaded by incredible women!) are uniting in a way that will allow generations to come to take their next cue toward equity and justice. Natalie Pucillo is an incredible young theologian and music minister who has a personal encounter with an alleged abuser, and also helps other survivors find their voice at Awake, a community of survivors, concerned Catholics, and allies responding to the wounds of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church. I believe her, and I believe in the healing that is found by honoring her voice.

Bio: Natalie Pucillo is a Master of Divinity student at Loyola University Chicago’s Institute of Pastoral Studies, where she combines her interests in Catholic liturgy and sacramental theology, ecclesiology, and trauma-informed pastoral practices. A musician with over a decade of experience serving churches in the Washington, DC area, she is especially interested in how communal worship shapes connection and responsibility within Catholic settings. Natalie currently serves as the Survivor Resource Intern for Awake, a community of abuse survivors, concerned Catholics, and allies responding to the wounds of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church. As a survivor of abuse by a lay minister, her personal and professional mission centers on naming the impact of harm within Church spaces and building communities that make room for truth and healing.

Music in this episode:

This Little Light of Minehttps://giamusic.com/resource/this-little-light-of-mine-print-ww1682

Sacred the Body, Ruth Duck/Mark Millerhttps://giamusic.com/resource/sacred-the-body-pdf-du01351</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2026 05:01:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>March is Women's History Month, and boy (pun intended), are we in the midst of some history being made by women. Whether it is the national and international headlines made by survivors of Epstein's abuse, or the closer-to-home allegations of abusers in sacred spaces, the #metoo, #churchtoo movements (spearheaded by incredible women!) are uniting in a way that will allow generations to come to take their next cue toward equity and justice. Natalie Pucillo is an incredible young theologian and music minister who has a personal encounter with an alleged abuser, and also helps other survivors find their voice at ⁠Awake,⁠ a community of survivors, concerned Catholics, and allies responding to the wounds of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church. I believe her, and I believe in the healing that is found by honoring her voice.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>March is Women's History Month, and boy (pun intended), are we in the midst of some history being made by women. Whether it is the national and international headlines made by survivors of Epstein's abuse, or the closer-to-home allegations of abusers in sacred spaces, the #metoo, #churchtoo movements (spearheaded by incredible women!) are uniting in a way that will allow generations to come to take their next cue toward equity and justice. Natalie Pucillo is an incredible young theologian and music minister who has a personal encounter with an alleged abuser, and also helps other survivors find their voice at Awake, a community of survivors, concerned Catholics, and allies responding to the wounds of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church. I believe her, and I believe in the healing that is found by honoring her voice.

Bio: Natalie Pucillo is a Master of Divinity student at Loyola University Chicago’s Institute of Pastoral Studies, where she combines her interests in Catholic liturgy and sacramental theology, ecclesiology, and trauma-informed pastoral practices. A musician with over a decade of experience serving churches in the Washington, DC area, she is especially interested in how communal worship shapes connection and responsibility within Catholic settings. Natalie currently serves as the Survivor Resource Intern for Awake, a community of abuse survivors, concerned Catholics, and allies responding to the wounds of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church. As a survivor of abuse by a lay minister, her personal and professional mission centers on naming the impact of harm within Church spaces and building communities that make room for truth and healing.

Music in this episode:

This Little Light of Minehttps://giamusic.com/resource/this-little-light-of-mine-print-ww1682

Sacred the Body, Ruth Duck/Mark Millerhttps://giamusic.com/resource/sacred-the-body-pdf-du01351</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>March is Women's History Month, and boy (pun intended), are we in the midst of some history being made by women. Whether it is the national and international headlines made by survivors of Epstein's abuse, or the closer-to-home allegations of abusers in sacred spaces, the #metoo, #churchtoo movements (spearheaded by incredible women!) are uniting in a way that will allow generations to come to take their next cue toward equity and justice. Natalie Pucillo is an incredible young theologian and music minister who has a personal encounter with an alleged abuser, and also helps other survivors find their voice at <a href="https://www.awakecommunity.org/">Awake,</a> a community of survivors, concerned Catholics, and allies responding to the wounds of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church. I believe her, and I believe in the healing that is found by honoring her voice.</p>
<p>Bio: Natalie Pucillo is a Master of Divinity student at Loyola University Chicago’s Institute of Pastoral Studies, where she combines her interests in Catholic liturgy and sacramental theology, ecclesiology, and trauma-informed pastoral practices. A musician with over a decade of experience serving churches in the Washington, DC area, she is especially interested in how communal worship shapes connection and responsibility within Catholic settings. Natalie currently serves as the Survivor Resource Intern for Awake, a community of abuse survivors, concerned Catholics, and allies responding to the wounds of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church. As a survivor of abuse by a lay minister, her personal and professional mission centers on naming the impact of harm within Church spaces and building communities that make room for truth and healing.</p>
<p>Music in this episode:</p>
<p>This Little Light of Mine<a href="https://giamusic.com/resource/this-little-light-of-mine-print-ww1682">https://giamusic.com/resource/this-little-light-of-mine-print-ww1682</a></p>
<p>Sacred the Body, Ruth Duck/Mark Miller<a href="https://giamusic.com/resource/sacred-the-body-pdf-du01351">https://giamusic.com/resource/sacred-the-body-pdf-du01351</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 19: Love to the Loveless Shown</title>
      <description>Description: Educator, podcaster, musician, deep-thinker, atheist-turned-Christian, from the "rust of the buckle of the Bible belt." Join this conversation with our own podcast producer, David Dault, as we recall a spiritual journey that intersects with the Indigo Girls, DMX, Quakers, Walter Brueggemann, Sr. Thea Bowman, and countless others. What is it that draws you into music and faith? For David, a line of the hymn "My Song is Love Unknown" was a critical turning point in recognizing his place in this great love story. You can learn more about David and his brand new book, The Accessorized Bible, at his website, daviddault.com.

Bio: David Dault spends his time with one foot in the academy and one foot in the world of television, radio, and podcasting. At Loyola University's Institute of Pastoral Studies, he oversees the programs for Christian Spirituality and Spiritual Direction. Beyond Loyola, he is also an award-winning screenwriter, media producer, consultant, and radio host.Music in this episode:My Song is Love Unknown, John Ireland: https://giamusic.com/resource/my-song-is-love-unknown-print-g10112

God Bless Our No, Brown/Williams: https://giamusic.com/resource/god-bless-our-no-pdf-du01869</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2026 17:21:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Love to the Loveless Shown</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Join this conversation with our own podcast producer, David Dault, as we recall a spiritual journey that intersects with the Indigo Girls, DMX, Quakers, Walter Brueggemann, Sr. Thea Bowman, and countless others. What is it that draws you into music and faith? For David, a line of the hymn "My Song is Love Unknown" was a critical turning point in recognizing his place in this great love story. You can learn more about David and his brand new book, The Accessorized Bible, at his website, ⁠daviddault.com⁠.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Description: Educator, podcaster, musician, deep-thinker, atheist-turned-Christian, from the "rust of the buckle of the Bible belt." Join this conversation with our own podcast producer, David Dault, as we recall a spiritual journey that intersects with the Indigo Girls, DMX, Quakers, Walter Brueggemann, Sr. Thea Bowman, and countless others. What is it that draws you into music and faith? For David, a line of the hymn "My Song is Love Unknown" was a critical turning point in recognizing his place in this great love story. You can learn more about David and his brand new book, The Accessorized Bible, at his website, daviddault.com.

Bio: David Dault spends his time with one foot in the academy and one foot in the world of television, radio, and podcasting. At Loyola University's Institute of Pastoral Studies, he oversees the programs for Christian Spirituality and Spiritual Direction. Beyond Loyola, he is also an award-winning screenwriter, media producer, consultant, and radio host.Music in this episode:My Song is Love Unknown, John Ireland: https://giamusic.com/resource/my-song-is-love-unknown-print-g10112

God Bless Our No, Brown/Williams: https://giamusic.com/resource/god-bless-our-no-pdf-du01869</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Description: Educator, podcaster, musician, deep-thinker, atheist-turned-Christian, from the "rust of the buckle of the Bible belt." Join this conversation with our own podcast producer, David Dault, as we recall a spiritual journey that intersects with the Indigo Girls, DMX, Quakers, Walter Brueggemann, Sr. Thea Bowman, and countless others. What is it that draws you into music and faith? For David, a line of the hymn "My Song is Love Unknown" was a critical turning point in recognizing his place in this great love story. You can learn more about David and his brand new book, <em>The Accessorized Bible,</em> at his website, <a href="http://daviddault.com/">daviddault.com</a>.</p>
<p>Bio: David Dault spends his time with one foot in the academy and one foot in the world of television, radio, and podcasting. At Loyola University's Institute of Pastoral Studies, he oversees the programs for Christian Spirituality and Spiritual Direction. Beyond Loyola, he is also an award-winning screenwriter, media producer, consultant, and radio host.<br>Music in this episode:My Song is Love Unknown, John Ireland: <a href="https://giamusic.com/resource/my-song-is-love-unknown-print-g10112">https://giamusic.com/resource/my-song-is-love-unknown-print-g10112</a></p>
<p>God Bless Our No, Brown/Williams: <a href="https://giamusic.com/resource/god-bless-our-no-pdf-du01869">https://giamusic.com/resource/god-bless-our-no-pdf-du01869</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 18: From Baroque, to AI Spring: God's Ongoing Creation</title>
      <description>Join this conversation with composer, theologian, scholar, globetrotter, and Paulist priest, Fr. Ricky Manalo, CSP. In this episode, we hear his journey as a liturgical composer, his family's rich prayer life, his later scholarship of Asian heritage like this month's celebration of Simbang Gabi, and his latest work exploring the growing world of AI and the ethics surrounding its use, urging our hearts and minds to turn toward honor, truth, and transparency to keep us grounded, embodied, and God's ongoing creation.

Bio: Fr. Ricky is a Paulist priest, liturgical composer, theologian, and pastoral scholar whose work has shaped Catholic worship, intercultural ministry, and theological discourse. Born in Brooklyn, NY, and raised in Marlboro, NJ, he studied composition and piano at the Manhattan School of Music; theology at the Washington Theological Union (WTU); and liturgy, culture, and sociology at the Graduate Theological Union (GTU) in Berkeley, CA. He currently serves as chairperson of the Paulist Initiative on Polarization ("The Communion Project"), leading efforts to bridge divides and foster dialogue within the U.S. Catholic Church.

Songs heard in this episode: Be Glad in the Lord, G-4363; Spirit of Truth and Life, G-3909; One Bread We Bless and Share, G-4362</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2025 06:01:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>From Baroque, to AI Spring: God's Ongoing Creation</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>GIA Publications</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Join this conversation with composer, theologian, scholar, globetrotter, and Paulist priest, Fr. Ricky Manalo, CSP. In this episode, we hear his journey as a liturgical composer, his family's rich prayer life, his later scholarship of Asian heritage like this month's celebration of Simbang Gabi, and his latest work exploring the growing world of AI and the ethics surrounding its use, urging our hearts and minds to turn toward honor, truth, and transparency to keep us grounded, embodied, and God's ongoing creation.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Join this conversation with composer, theologian, scholar, globetrotter, and Paulist priest, Fr. Ricky Manalo, CSP. In this episode, we hear his journey as a liturgical composer, his family's rich prayer life, his later scholarship of Asian heritage like this month's celebration of Simbang Gabi, and his latest work exploring the growing world of AI and the ethics surrounding its use, urging our hearts and minds to turn toward honor, truth, and transparency to keep us grounded, embodied, and God's ongoing creation.

Bio: Fr. Ricky is a Paulist priest, liturgical composer, theologian, and pastoral scholar whose work has shaped Catholic worship, intercultural ministry, and theological discourse. Born in Brooklyn, NY, and raised in Marlboro, NJ, he studied composition and piano at the Manhattan School of Music; theology at the Washington Theological Union (WTU); and liturgy, culture, and sociology at the Graduate Theological Union (GTU) in Berkeley, CA. He currently serves as chairperson of the Paulist Initiative on Polarization ("The Communion Project"), leading efforts to bridge divides and foster dialogue within the U.S. Catholic Church.

Songs heard in this episode: Be Glad in the Lord, G-4363; Spirit of Truth and Life, G-3909; One Bread We Bless and Share, G-4362</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Join this conversation with composer, theologian, scholar, globetrotter, and Paulist priest, Fr. Ricky Manalo, CSP. In this episode, we hear his journey as a liturgical composer, his family's rich prayer life, his later scholarship of Asian heritage like this month's celebration of Simbang Gabi, and his latest work exploring the growing world of AI and the ethics surrounding its use, urging our hearts and minds to turn toward honor, truth, and transparency to keep us grounded, embodied, and God's ongoing creation.</p>
<p><strong>Bio: </strong>Fr. Ricky is a Paulist priest, liturgical composer, theologian, and pastoral scholar whose work has shaped Catholic worship, intercultural ministry, and theological discourse. Born in Brooklyn, NY, and raised in Marlboro, NJ, he studied composition and piano at the Manhattan School of Music; theology at the Washington Theological Union (WTU); and liturgy, culture, and sociology at the Graduate Theological Union (GTU) in Berkeley, CA. He currently serves as chairperson of the Paulist Initiative on Polarization ("The Communion Project"), leading efforts to bridge divides and foster dialogue within the U.S. Catholic Church.</p>
<p><br><strong>Songs heard in this episode: </strong>Be Glad in the Lord, G-4363; Spirit of Truth and Life, G-3909; One Bread We Bless and Share, G-4362</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 17: We Are God's Instruments</title>
      <description>Description: Join composer Santiago Fernandez in this conversation about his journey as a liturgical musician, migrant, and composer. For one who grew up in Mexico, La Virgen de Guadalupe is simply a part of everyday life, and her mantle of protection follows each of us along the way. Heads up--there's an Easter egg announcement in here about our new Spanish-language hymnal: Tu Pueblo Canta!Guest: Santiago Fernandez

Bio: Santiago Fernández has been active in parish music ministry for the past 35 years and is currently Music Minister at Church of the Holy Family in Novi, Michigan. He holds a Bachelor’s Degree in Music from Wayne State University in Detroit, is certified in both Pastoral Ministry and Liturgical Ministry (locally by the Archdiocese of Detroit and nationally by the USCCB’s Commission on Certification and Accreditation) and is currently studying a Master’s Degree in Theology with a concentration in Sacred Scripture. Santiago is a frequent speaker and workshop presenter at events and conferences around the country and abroad in the area of Hispanic liturgical music.  

He has four collections of contemporary liturgical music published by Oregon Catholic Press, a number of bilingual pieces published by GIA and is also author of the bilingual book Un Hermoso Intercambio Cultural/A Beautiful Cultural Exchange, offering ideas, reflections and suggestions to open doors and broaden horizons within the multicultural integration of pastoral work in the United States.

Songs: Ave Maria: track 3 https://giamusic.com/resource/breath-of-god-recording-cd425

Enter His Gates, Santiago Fernandez https://giamusic.com/resource/enter-his-gates-print-g10700</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2025 06:01:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>We Are God's Instruments</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>GIA Publications</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle> Join composer Santiago Fernandez in this conversation about his journey as a liturgical musician, migrant, and composer. For one who grew up in Mexico, La Virgen de Guadalupe is simply a part of everyday life, and her mantle of protection follows each of us along the way. Heads up--there's an Easter egg announcement in here about our new Spanish-language hymnal: Tu Pueblo Canta!Guest: Santiago Fernandez</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Description: Join composer Santiago Fernandez in this conversation about his journey as a liturgical musician, migrant, and composer. For one who grew up in Mexico, La Virgen de Guadalupe is simply a part of everyday life, and her mantle of protection follows each of us along the way. Heads up--there's an Easter egg announcement in here about our new Spanish-language hymnal: Tu Pueblo Canta!Guest: Santiago Fernandez

Bio: Santiago Fernández has been active in parish music ministry for the past 35 years and is currently Music Minister at Church of the Holy Family in Novi, Michigan. He holds a Bachelor’s Degree in Music from Wayne State University in Detroit, is certified in both Pastoral Ministry and Liturgical Ministry (locally by the Archdiocese of Detroit and nationally by the USCCB’s Commission on Certification and Accreditation) and is currently studying a Master’s Degree in Theology with a concentration in Sacred Scripture. Santiago is a frequent speaker and workshop presenter at events and conferences around the country and abroad in the area of Hispanic liturgical music.  

He has four collections of contemporary liturgical music published by Oregon Catholic Press, a number of bilingual pieces published by GIA and is also author of the bilingual book Un Hermoso Intercambio Cultural/A Beautiful Cultural Exchange, offering ideas, reflections and suggestions to open doors and broaden horizons within the multicultural integration of pastoral work in the United States.

Songs: Ave Maria: track 3 https://giamusic.com/resource/breath-of-god-recording-cd425

Enter His Gates, Santiago Fernandez https://giamusic.com/resource/enter-his-gates-print-g10700</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Description: Join composer Santiago Fernandez in this conversation about his journey as a liturgical musician, migrant, and composer. For one who grew up in Mexico, La Virgen de Guadalupe is simply a part of everyday life, and her mantle of protection follows each of us along the way. Heads up--there's an Easter egg announcement in here about our new Spanish-language hymnal: Tu Pueblo Canta!Guest: Santiago Fernandez</p>
<p>Bio: Santiago Fernández has been active in parish music ministry for the past 35 years and is currently Music Minister at Church of the Holy Family in Novi, Michigan. He holds a Bachelor’s Degree in Music from Wayne State University in Detroit, is certified in both Pastoral Ministry and Liturgical Ministry (locally by the Archdiocese of Detroit and nationally by the USCCB’s Commission on Certification and Accreditation) and is currently studying a Master’s Degree in Theology with a concentration in Sacred Scripture. Santiago is a frequent speaker and workshop presenter at events and conferences around the country and abroad in the area of Hispanic liturgical music.  </p>
<p>He has four collections of contemporary liturgical music published by Oregon Catholic Press, a number of bilingual pieces published by GIA and is also author of the bilingual book <em>Un Hermoso Intercambio Cultural/A Beautiful Cultural Exchange</em>, offering ideas, reflections and suggestions to open doors and broaden horizons within the multicultural integration of pastoral work in the United States.</p>
<p><br>Songs: Ave Maria: track 3 <a href="https://giamusic.com/resource/breath-of-god-recording-cd425">https://giamusic.com/resource/breath-of-god-recording-cd425</a></p>
<p>Enter His Gates, Santiago Fernandez <a href="https://giamusic.com/resource/enter-his-gates-print-g10700">https://giamusic.com/resource/enter-his-gates-print-g10700</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 16: Is Love Your Brand?</title>
      <description>Guest: Emily Bradfield

Bio: Emily Bradfield is a marketing and brand strategy professional based in the Greater Chicago area. She is passionate about creating cohesive brand narratives across the marketing funnel and aligning performance with brand strategy. Early in her career, Emily served in roles such as Marketing Associate at the Chicago Sinfonietta, where she handled communications, engagement, and public relations efforts for the orchestra. Her professional network includes positions with law firms, among other organizations, demonstrating her flexibility across industries in brand &amp; marketing roles.

Description: In this episode, we invite the host's own sister into the conversation, pivoting from her experience in marketing in brand management and its implications in church work, toward a deeper reflection about home, music, and faith. October is Domestic Violence Awareness Month, so this conversation highlights some of the realities of those who experience domestic violence. 

A few statistics to add some context to the conversation:

*An average of 24 people per minute are victims of rape, physical violence or stalking by an intimate partner in the United States — more than 12 million women and men over the course of a single year.*Nearly 3 in 10 women (29%) and 1 in 10 men (10%) in the US have experienced rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by a partner and reported it having a related impact on their functioning.*Just under 15% of women (14.8%) and 4% of men in the US have been injured as a result of intimate partner violence that included rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner.*1 in 4 women (24.3%) and 1 in 7 men (13.8%) aged 18 and older in the US have been the victim of severe physical violence by an intimate partner in their lifetime.*Intimate partner violence alone affects more than 12 million people every year.*Over 1 in 3 women (35.6%) and 1 in 4 men (28.5%) in the US have experienced rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner in their lifetime.*Almost half of all women and men in the US have experienced psychological aggression by an intimate partner in their lifetime (48.4% and 48.8%, respectively).*Women ages 18 to 24 and 25 to 34 generally experience the highest rates of intimate partner violence.*From 1994 to 2010, approximately 4 in 5 victims of intimate partner violence were female.*Most female victims of intimate partner violence were previously victimized by the same offender at rates of 77% for women ages 18 to 24, 76% for ages 25 to 34, and 81% for ages 35 to 49.(these statistics and more can be found at thehotline.org)</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2025 05:01:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Episode 16: Is Love Your Brand?</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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      <itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>GIA Publications</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we invite the host's own sister into the conversation, pivoting from her experience in marketing in brand management and its implications in church work, toward a deeper reflection about home, music, and faith. October is Domestic Violence Awareness Month, so this conversation highlights some of the realities of those who experience domestic violence.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guest: Emily Bradfield

Bio: Emily Bradfield is a marketing and brand strategy professional based in the Greater Chicago area. She is passionate about creating cohesive brand narratives across the marketing funnel and aligning performance with brand strategy. Early in her career, Emily served in roles such as Marketing Associate at the Chicago Sinfonietta, where she handled communications, engagement, and public relations efforts for the orchestra. Her professional network includes positions with law firms, among other organizations, demonstrating her flexibility across industries in brand &amp; marketing roles.

Description: In this episode, we invite the host's own sister into the conversation, pivoting from her experience in marketing in brand management and its implications in church work, toward a deeper reflection about home, music, and faith. October is Domestic Violence Awareness Month, so this conversation highlights some of the realities of those who experience domestic violence. 

A few statistics to add some context to the conversation:

*An average of 24 people per minute are victims of rape, physical violence or stalking by an intimate partner in the United States — more than 12 million women and men over the course of a single year.*Nearly 3 in 10 women (29%) and 1 in 10 men (10%) in the US have experienced rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by a partner and reported it having a related impact on their functioning.*Just under 15% of women (14.8%) and 4% of men in the US have been injured as a result of intimate partner violence that included rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner.*1 in 4 women (24.3%) and 1 in 7 men (13.8%) aged 18 and older in the US have been the victim of severe physical violence by an intimate partner in their lifetime.*Intimate partner violence alone affects more than 12 million people every year.*Over 1 in 3 women (35.6%) and 1 in 4 men (28.5%) in the US have experienced rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner in their lifetime.*Almost half of all women and men in the US have experienced psychological aggression by an intimate partner in their lifetime (48.4% and 48.8%, respectively).*Women ages 18 to 24 and 25 to 34 generally experience the highest rates of intimate partner violence.*From 1994 to 2010, approximately 4 in 5 victims of intimate partner violence were female.*Most female victims of intimate partner violence were previously victimized by the same offender at rates of 77% for women ages 18 to 24, 76% for ages 25 to 34, and 81% for ages 35 to 49.(these statistics and more can be found at thehotline.org)</itunes:summary>
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<p>Bio: Emily Bradfield is a marketing and brand strategy professional based in the Greater Chicago area. She is passionate about creating cohesive brand narratives across the marketing funnel and aligning performance with brand strategy. Early in her career, Emily served in roles such as Marketing Associate at the Chicago Sinfonietta, where she handled communications, engagement, and public relations efforts for the orchestra. Her professional network includes positions with law firms, among other organizations, demonstrating her flexibility across industries in brand &amp; marketing roles.</p>
<p>Description: In this episode, we invite the host's own sister into the conversation, pivoting from her experience in marketing in brand management and its implications in church work, toward a deeper reflection about home, music, and faith. October is Domestic Violence Awareness Month, so this conversation highlights some of the realities of those who experience domestic violence. </p>
<p>A few statistics to add some context to the conversation:</p>
<p>*An average of 24 people per minute are victims of rape, physical violence or stalking by an intimate partner in the United States — more than 12 million women and men over the course of a single year.<br>*Nearly 3 in 10 women (29%) and 1 in 10 men (10%) in the US have experienced rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by a partner and reported it having a related impact on their functioning.<br>*Just under 15% of women (14.8%) and 4% of men in the US have been injured as a result of intimate partner violence that included rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner.<br>*1 in 4 women (24.3%) and 1 in 7 men (13.8%) aged 18 and older in the US have been the victim of severe physical violence by an intimate partner in their lifetime.<br>*Intimate partner violence alone affects more than 12 million people every year.<br>*Over 1 in 3 women (35.6%) and 1 in 4 men (28.5%) in the US have experienced rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner in their lifetime.<br>*Almost half of all women and men in the US have experienced psychological aggression by an intimate partner in their lifetime (48.4% and 48.8%, respectively).<br>*Women ages 18 to 24 and 25 to 34 generally experience the highest rates of intimate partner violence.<br>*From 1994 to 2010, approximately 4 in 5 victims of intimate partner violence were female.<br>*Most female victims of intimate partner violence were previously victimized by the same offender at rates of 77% for women ages 18 to 24, 76% for ages 25 to 34, and 81% for ages 35 to 49.<br>(these statistics and more can be found at <a href="http://thehotline.org/">thehotline.org</a>)</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 15: A Spirit of Adoption</title>
      <description>This time on Interchange, we're joined by composer Mark Miller, a musician renowned for his vibrant voice in Christian worship communities across the world. In this candid conversation, Mark shares a part of his personal story that shapes his perspective on themes of belonging, identity, and grace—elements so often reflected in his music. Mark embodies a spirit of gentle inclusivity, combining theological depth with accessibility. In his role as both composer and educator, his personal narrative of adoption resonates with his commitment to writing music that assures people they are claimed and beloved.

Bio: Mark A. Miller has a passion for building community through music and believes that everyone is a child of God. He adheres to Cornel West’s belief that “Justice is what love looks like in public.”

A graduate of Yale and Juilliard, Mark is Professor of Church Music, Director of Chapel, and Composer-in-Residence at Drew University. He is also a Lecturer in Sacred Music at Yale University’s Institute of Sacred Music and Divinity School, and Minister of Music of Christ Church in Summit, New Jersey. Previously, he provided musical leadership for Marble Collegiate Church and The Riverside Church (both in New York City).

His sacred music is widely published and sung by communities of faith around the world. Mark’s Let Justice Roll (for chorus and orchestra) was performed for “Juneteenth Celebration: All American Freedom Day” in 2019 at Carnegie Hall. His album, Imagine the People of God, is available on iTunes.

Mark has led choirs and performed in Sweden, South Africa, Austria, Russia, and the Baltic states. He spends part of the year traveling around the United States (often with his band, Subject to Change), lecturing, preaching, and presenting concerts focused on creating community and advocating for social justice for all people, especially the LGBTQIA+ community. His music has been called the soundtrack for a new generation to express and celebrate hospitality, equity, and justice.

Mark resides in Plainfield, New Jersey, with his husband, Michael Murden. They have two adult children, Alyse and Keith, and a cat named Oscar.Music heard in this episode:Hope Will Not Fail: https://giamusic.com/resource/hope-will-not-fail-printed-music-11378Who You Are: https://giamusic.com/resource/who-you-are-pdf-du01353We Will Rejoice: When the Fig Tree Fails to Blossom https://giamusic.com/resource/when-the-fig-tree-fails-to-blossom-printed-music-11383Gather at the River: https://giamusic.com/resource/gather-at-the-river-pdf-du01359</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2025 05:01:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Spirit of Adoption</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>GIA Publications</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This time on Interchange, we're joined by composer Mark Miller, a musician renowned for his vibrant voice in Christian worship communities across the world. In this candid conversation, Mark shares a part of his personal story that shapes his perspective on themes of belonging, identity, and grace—elements so often reflected in his music. Mark embodies a spirit of gentle inclusivity, combining theological depth with accessibility. In his role as both composer and educator, his personal narrative of adoption resonates with his commitment to writing music that assures people they are claimed and beloved.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This time on Interchange, we're joined by composer Mark Miller, a musician renowned for his vibrant voice in Christian worship communities across the world. In this candid conversation, Mark shares a part of his personal story that shapes his perspective on themes of belonging, identity, and grace—elements so often reflected in his music. Mark embodies a spirit of gentle inclusivity, combining theological depth with accessibility. In his role as both composer and educator, his personal narrative of adoption resonates with his commitment to writing music that assures people they are claimed and beloved.

Bio: Mark A. Miller has a passion for building community through music and believes that everyone is a child of God. He adheres to Cornel West’s belief that “Justice is what love looks like in public.”

A graduate of Yale and Juilliard, Mark is Professor of Church Music, Director of Chapel, and Composer-in-Residence at Drew University. He is also a Lecturer in Sacred Music at Yale University’s Institute of Sacred Music and Divinity School, and Minister of Music of Christ Church in Summit, New Jersey. Previously, he provided musical leadership for Marble Collegiate Church and The Riverside Church (both in New York City).

His sacred music is widely published and sung by communities of faith around the world. Mark’s Let Justice Roll (for chorus and orchestra) was performed for “Juneteenth Celebration: All American Freedom Day” in 2019 at Carnegie Hall. His album, Imagine the People of God, is available on iTunes.

Mark has led choirs and performed in Sweden, South Africa, Austria, Russia, and the Baltic states. He spends part of the year traveling around the United States (often with his band, Subject to Change), lecturing, preaching, and presenting concerts focused on creating community and advocating for social justice for all people, especially the LGBTQIA+ community. His music has been called the soundtrack for a new generation to express and celebrate hospitality, equity, and justice.

Mark resides in Plainfield, New Jersey, with his husband, Michael Murden. They have two adult children, Alyse and Keith, and a cat named Oscar.Music heard in this episode:Hope Will Not Fail: https://giamusic.com/resource/hope-will-not-fail-printed-music-11378Who You Are: https://giamusic.com/resource/who-you-are-pdf-du01353We Will Rejoice: When the Fig Tree Fails to Blossom https://giamusic.com/resource/when-the-fig-tree-fails-to-blossom-printed-music-11383Gather at the River: https://giamusic.com/resource/gather-at-the-river-pdf-du01359</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This time on Interchange, we're joined by composer Mark Miller, a musician renowned for his vibrant voice in Christian worship communities across the world. In this candid conversation, Mark shares a part of his personal story that shapes his perspective on themes of belonging, identity, and grace—elements so often reflected in his music. Mark embodies a spirit of gentle inclusivity, combining theological depth with accessibility. In his role as both composer and educator, his personal narrative of adoption resonates with his commitment to writing music that assures people they are claimed and beloved.</p>
<p><br>Bio: Mark A. Miller has a passion for building community through music and believes that everyone is a child of God. He adheres to Cornel West’s belief that “Justice is what love looks like in public.”</p>
<p><br>A graduate of Yale and Juilliard, Mark is Professor of Church Music, Director of Chapel, and Composer-in-Residence at Drew University. He is also a Lecturer in Sacred Music at Yale University’s Institute of Sacred Music and Divinity School, and Minister of Music of Christ Church in Summit, New Jersey. Previously, he provided musical leadership for Marble Collegiate Church and The Riverside Church (both in New York City).</p>
<p><br>His sacred music is widely published and sung by communities of faith around the world. Mark’s Let Justice Roll (for chorus and orchestra) was performed for “Juneteenth Celebration: All American Freedom Day” in 2019 at Carnegie Hall. His album, Imagine the People of God, is available on iTunes.</p>
<p><br>Mark has led choirs and performed in Sweden, South Africa, Austria, Russia, and the Baltic states. He spends part of the year traveling around the United States (often with his band, Subject to Change), lecturing, preaching, and presenting concerts focused on creating community and advocating for social justice for all people, especially the LGBTQIA+ community. His music has been called the soundtrack for a new generation to express and celebrate hospitality, equity, and justice.</p>
<p><br>Mark resides in Plainfield, New Jersey, with his husband, Michael Murden. They have two adult children, Alyse and Keith, and a cat named Oscar.<br>Music heard in this episode:<br>Hope Will Not Fail: <a href="https://giamusic.com/resource/hope-will-not-fail-printed-music-11378">https://giamusic.com/resource/hope-will-not-fail-printed-music-11378</a><br>Who You Are: <a href="https://giamusic.com/resource/who-you-are-pdf-du01353">https://giamusic.com/resource/who-you-are-pdf-du01353</a><br>We Will Rejoice: When the Fig Tree Fails to Blossom <a href="https://giamusic.com/resource/when-the-fig-tree-fails-to-blossom-printed-music-11383">https://giamusic.com/resource/when-the-fig-tree-fails-to-blossom-printed-music-11383</a><br>Gather at the River: <a href="https://giamusic.com/resource/gather-at-the-river-pdf-du01359">https://giamusic.com/resource/gather-at-the-river-pdf-du01359</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 14: Feast and Famine (and hopefully somewhere intuitively in the middle): Consuming Music, Consuming Food</title>
      <description>One of those things about the human condition is that we're gonna get hungry. Whether it be the physical hunger for something to fill our bellies or the spiritual hunger for comfort, belonging, justice, our bodies need these embodied experiences of satiation: a truly sacramental experience of foretaste of God's abundance. But it's complicated... and Stephanie is over it. We need food to live, and we know that we cannot live on bread alone. So what makes this simple truth so complicated, unable to freely be in a human body, accepting our human needs? And to work in one more pun--what's eating at you?

Bio: Stephanie Fiorentino, MS, RD, LDN is a registered dietitian specializing in intuitive eating and disordered eating recovery. She is passionate about health accessibility and a sustainable approach to nutrition without stigma or shame. You can learn more about her and her work at foodwonderful.com.

Music in this episode:Living Bread, Adam Ubowski, Lori Ubowski, Sarah Hart: https://giamusic.com/resource/living-bread-print-007861</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2025 05:01:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>GIA Publications</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>One of those things about the human condition is that we're gonna get hungry. Whether it be the physical hunger for something to fill our bellies or the spiritual hunger for comfort, belonging, justice, our bodies need these embodied experiences of satiation: a truly sacramental experience of foretaste of God's abundance. But it's complicated... and Stephanie Fiorentino is over it. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>One of those things about the human condition is that we're gonna get hungry. Whether it be the physical hunger for something to fill our bellies or the spiritual hunger for comfort, belonging, justice, our bodies need these embodied experiences of satiation: a truly sacramental experience of foretaste of God's abundance. But it's complicated... and Stephanie is over it. We need food to live, and we know that we cannot live on bread alone. So what makes this simple truth so complicated, unable to freely be in a human body, accepting our human needs? And to work in one more pun--what's eating at you?

Bio: Stephanie Fiorentino, MS, RD, LDN is a registered dietitian specializing in intuitive eating and disordered eating recovery. She is passionate about health accessibility and a sustainable approach to nutrition without stigma or shame. You can learn more about her and her work at foodwonderful.com.

Music in this episode:Living Bread, Adam Ubowski, Lori Ubowski, Sarah Hart: https://giamusic.com/resource/living-bread-print-007861</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>One of those things about the human condition is that we're gonna get hungry. Whether it be the physical hunger for something to fill our bellies or the spiritual hunger for comfort, belonging, justice, our bodies <em>need</em> these embodied experiences of satiation: a truly sacramental experience of foretaste of God's abundance. But it's complicated... and Stephanie is over it. We need food to live, and we know that we cannot live on bread alone. So what makes this simple truth so complicated, unable to freely be in a human body, accepting our human needs? And to work in one more pun--<em>what's eating at you</em>?</p>
<p>Bio: Stephanie Fiorentino, MS, RD, LDN is a registered dietitian specializing in intuitive eating and disordered eating recovery. She is passionate about health accessibility and a sustainable approach to nutrition without stigma or shame. You can learn more about her and her work at <a href="http://foodwonderful.com/">foodwonderful.com</a>.</p>
<p>Music in this episode:Living Bread, <a href="https://giamusic.com/search?search-artist=Adam%20Ubowski">Adam Ubowski</a>, <a href="https://giamusic.com/search?search-artist=Lori%20Ubowski">Lori Ubowski</a>, <a href="https://giamusic.com/search?search-artist=Sarah%20Hart">Sarah Hart</a>: <a href="https://giamusic.com/resource/living-bread-print-007861">https://giamusic.com/resource/living-bread-print-007861</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 13: Habemus Homerun!</title>
      <description>For us in Chicago, the whirlwind continues after the surprise announcement of Pope Leo XIV--a native Chicagoan, with Black Catholic roots and a legacy of ministry in Peru. On June 14, Chicago held a celebration at Rate Field, home of the Chicago White Sox, that concluded in a Mass. Where does one even begin planning a huge liturgy like this? Join members of the planning team as we share a bit of mystagogical reflection on our experience preparing for this historical event. 

Guests: Peter Kolar, Samantha Polo, Mike Ward, and Matt Merkt

Music: Lord, Make Me an Instrument of Your Peace, G-5627</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2025 05:01:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Habemus Homerun!</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>GIA Publications</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>On June 14, Chicago held a celebration at Rate Field, home of the Chicago White Sox, that concluded in a Mass. Where does one even begin planning a huge liturgy like this? Join members of the planning team as we share a bit of mystagogical reflection on our experience preparing for this historical event.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>For us in Chicago, the whirlwind continues after the surprise announcement of Pope Leo XIV--a native Chicagoan, with Black Catholic roots and a legacy of ministry in Peru. On June 14, Chicago held a celebration at Rate Field, home of the Chicago White Sox, that concluded in a Mass. Where does one even begin planning a huge liturgy like this? Join members of the planning team as we share a bit of mystagogical reflection on our experience preparing for this historical event. 

Guests: Peter Kolar, Samantha Polo, Mike Ward, and Matt Merkt

Music: Lord, Make Me an Instrument of Your Peace, G-5627</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>For us in Chicago, the whirlwind continues after the surprise announcement of Pope Leo XIV--a native Chicagoan, with Black Catholic roots and a legacy of ministry in Peru. On June 14, Chicago held a celebration at Rate Field, home of the Chicago White Sox, that concluded in a Mass. Where does one even begin planning a huge liturgy like this? Join members of the planning team as we share a bit of mystagogical reflection on our experience preparing for this historical event. </p>
<p>Guests: Peter Kolar, Samantha Polo, Mike Ward, and Matt Merkt</p>
<p>Music: Lord, Make Me an Instrument of Your Peace, G-5627</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 12: Unless You Become Like Little Children</title>
      <description>Kids! Just in time for the start of summer's jubilance, this episode is sure to be a perennial favorite. There's nothing more refreshing, grounding, and inspiring to hear these young voices imagine out loud for a bit, ruminating on the questions of why they like music and what they think God sounds like. Honestly, take a listen. The kids say it better than I ever could. 

Special thanks to the kids from across several states who participated in the fun! And of course, to the parents and teachers who are right by their side, cheering them on and honored to do so.

Music in this episode includes selections from Chris de Silva's piano collections, Colours (G-8560) and Colours II (G-9737). Grab your copy of the printed music or the recorded albums at www.giamusic.com</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2025 05:01:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Unless You Become Like Little Children</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>GIA Publications</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Kids! Just in time for the start of summer's jubilance, this episode is sure to be a perennial favorite. There's nothing more refreshing, grounding, and inspiring to hear these young voices imagine out loud for a bit, ruminating on the questions of why they like music and what they think God sounds like. Honestly, take a listen. The kids say it better than I ever could. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Kids! Just in time for the start of summer's jubilance, this episode is sure to be a perennial favorite. There's nothing more refreshing, grounding, and inspiring to hear these young voices imagine out loud for a bit, ruminating on the questions of why they like music and what they think God sounds like. Honestly, take a listen. The kids say it better than I ever could. 

Special thanks to the kids from across several states who participated in the fun! And of course, to the parents and teachers who are right by their side, cheering them on and honored to do so.

Music in this episode includes selections from Chris de Silva's piano collections, Colours (G-8560) and Colours II (G-9737). Grab your copy of the printed music or the recorded albums at www.giamusic.com</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Kids! Just in time for the start of summer's jubilance, this episode is sure to be a perennial favorite. There's nothing more refreshing, grounding, and inspiring to hear these young voices imagine out loud for a bit, ruminating on the questions of why they like music and what they think God sounds like. Honestly, take a listen. The kids say it better than I ever could. </p>
<p><em>Special thanks to the kids from across several states who participated in the fun! And of course, to the parents and teachers who are right by their side, cheering them on and honored to do so.</em></p>
<p>Music in this episode includes selections from Chris de Silva's piano collections, Colours (G-8560) and Colours II (G-9737). Grab your copy of the printed music or the recorded albums at <a href="http://www.giamusic.com/">www.giamusic.com</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 11: How Are You Doing? Music Ministry and Mental Health</title>
      <description>According to the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH), about 1 in 5 adults have experienced a mental illness in the past year. Certainly, struggles with mental health are a part of every faith community, one that needn't be feared or stigmatized any further than we have already allowed. How does music serve to support us in these struggles? How can we accompany one another better? 

In light of the month of mental health awareness, join us for this conversation about music and mental health as these two musicians and faithful people wrestle with their own diagnoses and belovedness in God's sight. And maybe take a moment, step back, and allow ourselves to ask: how are we doing, really?

Bio: Fr. Stuart Wilson-Smith, CSP (Fr. Stu) was ordained for the Paulists in 2017 and soon after began his first assignment in campus ministry at The Ohio State University. He most recently served as Associate Pastor of Old St. Mary’s Church in Chicago. Before entering the Paulists, Fr. Stu studied history and philosophy at the University of Toronto, backpacked abroad, and worked as a drummer and singer-songwriter, both of which he still enjoys today. 

Born and raised in the Maritime region of Canada, Fr. Stu has felt blessed to serve the last decade as a missionary in the United States. Fr. Stu is the assistant director of the University Catholic Center at the University of California, Los Angeles.



Music in this episode:

The music of Stuart Wilson-Smith can be found on Spotify or for purchase here: https://stuartws.bandcamp.com/

O God Behold Your Family Here: https://giamusic.com/resource/o-god-behold-your-family-here-print-g5588</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2025 05:01:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>GIA Publications</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/a860738c-2968-11f0-9e51-03cb7d803864/image/577cca25499272b288ca4e34f1b46656.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In light of the month of mental health awareness, join us for this conversation about music and mental health as these two musicians and faithful people wrestle with their own diagnoses and belovedness in God's sight.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>According to the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH), about 1 in 5 adults have experienced a mental illness in the past year. Certainly, struggles with mental health are a part of every faith community, one that needn't be feared or stigmatized any further than we have already allowed. How does music serve to support us in these struggles? How can we accompany one another better? 

In light of the month of mental health awareness, join us for this conversation about music and mental health as these two musicians and faithful people wrestle with their own diagnoses and belovedness in God's sight. And maybe take a moment, step back, and allow ourselves to ask: how are we doing, really?

Bio: Fr. Stuart Wilson-Smith, CSP (Fr. Stu) was ordained for the Paulists in 2017 and soon after began his first assignment in campus ministry at The Ohio State University. He most recently served as Associate Pastor of Old St. Mary’s Church in Chicago. Before entering the Paulists, Fr. Stu studied history and philosophy at the University of Toronto, backpacked abroad, and worked as a drummer and singer-songwriter, both of which he still enjoys today. 

Born and raised in the Maritime region of Canada, Fr. Stu has felt blessed to serve the last decade as a missionary in the United States. Fr. Stu is the assistant director of the University Catholic Center at the University of California, Los Angeles.



Music in this episode:

The music of Stuart Wilson-Smith can be found on Spotify or for purchase here: https://stuartws.bandcamp.com/

O God Behold Your Family Here: https://giamusic.com/resource/o-god-behold-your-family-here-print-g5588</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>According to the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH), about 1 in 5 adults have experienced a mental illness in the past year. Certainly, struggles with mental health are a part of every faith community, one that needn't be feared or stigmatized any further than we have already allowed. How does music serve to support us in these struggles? How can we accompany one another better? </p>
<p>In light of the month of mental health awareness, join us for this conversation about music and mental health as these two musicians and faithful people wrestle with their own diagnoses and belovedness in God's sight. And maybe take a moment, step back, and allow ourselves to ask: how are we doing, really?</p>
<p>Bio: Fr. Stuart Wilson-Smith, CSP (Fr. Stu) was ordained for the Paulists in 2017 and soon after began his first assignment in campus ministry at The Ohio State University. He most recently served as Associate Pastor of Old St. Mary’s Church in Chicago. Before entering the Paulists, Fr. Stu studied history and philosophy at the University of Toronto, backpacked abroad, and worked as a drummer and singer-songwriter, both of which he still enjoys today. </p>
<p>Born and raised in the Maritime region of Canada, Fr. Stu has felt blessed to serve the last decade as a missionary in the United States. Fr. Stu is the assistant director of the University Catholic Center at the University of California, Los Angeles.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Music in this episode:</p>
<p>The music of Stuart Wilson-Smith can be found on Spotify or for purchase here: <a href="https://stuartws.bandcamp.com/">https://stuartws.bandcamp.com/</a></p>
<p><br>O God Behold Your Family Here: <a href="https://giamusic.com/resource/o-god-behold-your-family-here-print-g5588">https://giamusic.com/resource/o-god-behold-your-family-here-print-g5588</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 10 - To Bring a New Voice, Bring a New Sound</title>
      <description>Hymn writing, Mennonite Culture, Incarnational God, imposter syndrome, community building: join Adam Tice, GIA’s Editor for Congregational Song for a conversation that weaves through the contexts that provide the frame work for our vocation to music, tending and tilling the soil all around us.

Bio: Adam M. L. Tice was born in Pennsylvania, and grew up in Alabama, Oregon, and Indiana. After graduating from high school in Elkhart, Indiana, Adam went to nearby Goshen College, a Mennonite liberal arts school. He majored in music with an emphasis on composition and completed a minor in Bible and religion, graduating in 2002. He began working as a church musician and choir director while still in college.

Adam took his first course at the Associated Mennonite Biblical Seminary in the fall of 2003, which led to the writing of his initial hymn text. In 2004, Adam was named a Lovelace Scholar by the Hymn Society of the United States and Canada. He served as a member of the Society's executive committee from 2007 to 2010.

He was Associate Pastor of Hyattsville (Maryland) Mennonite Church from 2007 to 2012. He now lives with his family in Goshen, Indiana. He is text editor for the 2020 Mennonite hymnal, Voices Together. In early 2020 he joined GIA as Editor for Congregational Song.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2025 21:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>GIA Publications</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Hymn writing, Mennonite Culture, Incarnational God, imposter syndrome, community building: join Adam Tice, GIA’s Editor for Congregational Song for a conversation that weaves through the contexts that provide the frame work for our vocation to music, tending and tilling the soil all around us.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Hymn writing, Mennonite Culture, Incarnational God, imposter syndrome, community building: join Adam Tice, GIA’s Editor for Congregational Song for a conversation that weaves through the contexts that provide the frame work for our vocation to music, tending and tilling the soil all around us.

Bio: Adam M. L. Tice was born in Pennsylvania, and grew up in Alabama, Oregon, and Indiana. After graduating from high school in Elkhart, Indiana, Adam went to nearby Goshen College, a Mennonite liberal arts school. He majored in music with an emphasis on composition and completed a minor in Bible and religion, graduating in 2002. He began working as a church musician and choir director while still in college.

Adam took his first course at the Associated Mennonite Biblical Seminary in the fall of 2003, which led to the writing of his initial hymn text. In 2004, Adam was named a Lovelace Scholar by the Hymn Society of the United States and Canada. He served as a member of the Society's executive committee from 2007 to 2010.

He was Associate Pastor of Hyattsville (Maryland) Mennonite Church from 2007 to 2012. He now lives with his family in Goshen, Indiana. He is text editor for the 2020 Mennonite hymnal, Voices Together. In early 2020 he joined GIA as Editor for Congregational Song.</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hymn writing, Mennonite Culture, Incarnational God, imposter syndrome, community building: join Adam Tice, GIA’s Editor for Congregational Song for a conversation that weaves through the contexts that provide the frame work for our vocation to music, tending and tilling the soil all around us.</p><p><br></p><p>Bio: Adam M. L. Tice was born in Pennsylvania, and grew up in Alabama, Oregon, and Indiana. After graduating from high school in Elkhart, Indiana, Adam went to nearby Goshen College, a Mennonite liberal arts school. He majored in music with an emphasis on composition and completed a minor in Bible and religion, graduating in 2002. He began working as a church musician and choir director while still in college.</p><p><br></p><p>Adam took his first course at the Associated Mennonite Biblical Seminary in the fall of 2003, which led to the writing of his initial hymn text. In 2004, Adam was named a Lovelace Scholar by the Hymn Society of the United States and Canada. He served as a member of the Society's executive committee from 2007 to 2010.</p><p><br></p><p>He was Associate Pastor of Hyattsville (Maryland) Mennonite Church from 2007 to 2012. He now lives with his family in Goshen, Indiana. He is text editor for the 2020 Mennonite hymnal, <em>Voices Together</em>. In early 2020 he joined GIA as Editor for Congregational Song.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 9: Musicking while Female with Hilary Donaldson</title>
      <description>CW: pregnancy loss
Description: It’s Women’s History Month, and while women are worth celebrating each and every day of the year, this is also a lovely time to lift up one incredible music maker who lives a life surrounded by the melodies of the story-telling that has reverberated in the uniqueness of human bodies and human experiences, those long studied and those whose experiences have been coded or sidelined. Hilary’s nuance of language around identity and proximity to power structure lays a firm foundation on which we might dream ourselves into honoring whatever comes next. A gift of vulnerable conversation between two women draws a through-line between treasured stories of scripture and current contexts that allows for meaning-making and hope to shine in even the darkest corners of life.
Bio:
Hilary Seraph Donaldson is a church musician and researcher based in Toronto, Canada. She holds a Master of Sacred Music in Choral Conducting from Southern Methodist University (Dallas, TX) and a PhD in Musicology from the University of Toronto. Her research interests are centered on the intersection of English musical modernism and the sacred in the music of Benjamin Britten, music since 1900, the BBC, intersections in music and theology, and hymnology and congregational singing. Hilary serves as Director of Music at St. Andrew's United Church in downtown Toronto. She is passionate about expanding the singing repertoire of congregations and fostering practices of learning, vulnerability, and praying through the music of the global ecumenical movement in worship. She shares resources on enlivening congregational song through her website and web video series Break into Song. She is Immediate Past President of The Hymn Society in the United States and Canada.

Song: I Know God Holds You, Text: Hannah C. Brown, Music: Kate Williams</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2025 06:01:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Musicking while Female with Hilary Donaldson</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>GIA Publications</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>It’s Women’s History Month, and while women are worth celebrating each and every day of the year, this is also a lovely time to lift up one incredible music maker who lives a life surrounded by the melodies of the story-telling that has reverberated in the uniqueness of human bodies and human experiences, those long studied and those whose experiences have been coded or sidelined.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>CW: pregnancy loss
Description: It’s Women’s History Month, and while women are worth celebrating each and every day of the year, this is also a lovely time to lift up one incredible music maker who lives a life surrounded by the melodies of the story-telling that has reverberated in the uniqueness of human bodies and human experiences, those long studied and those whose experiences have been coded or sidelined. Hilary’s nuance of language around identity and proximity to power structure lays a firm foundation on which we might dream ourselves into honoring whatever comes next. A gift of vulnerable conversation between two women draws a through-line between treasured stories of scripture and current contexts that allows for meaning-making and hope to shine in even the darkest corners of life.
Bio:
Hilary Seraph Donaldson is a church musician and researcher based in Toronto, Canada. She holds a Master of Sacred Music in Choral Conducting from Southern Methodist University (Dallas, TX) and a PhD in Musicology from the University of Toronto. Her research interests are centered on the intersection of English musical modernism and the sacred in the music of Benjamin Britten, music since 1900, the BBC, intersections in music and theology, and hymnology and congregational singing. Hilary serves as Director of Music at St. Andrew's United Church in downtown Toronto. She is passionate about expanding the singing repertoire of congregations and fostering practices of learning, vulnerability, and praying through the music of the global ecumenical movement in worship. She shares resources on enlivening congregational song through her website and web video series Break into Song. She is Immediate Past President of The Hymn Society in the United States and Canada.

Song: I Know God Holds You, Text: Hannah C. Brown, Music: Kate Williams</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>CW: pregnancy loss</p><p>Description: It’s Women’s History Month, and while women are worth celebrating each and every day of the year, this is also a lovely time to lift up one incredible music maker who lives a life surrounded by the melodies of the story-telling that has reverberated in the uniqueness of human bodies and human experiences, those long studied and those whose experiences have been coded or sidelined. Hilary’s nuance of language around identity and proximity to power structure lays a firm foundation on which we might dream ourselves into honoring whatever comes next. A gift of vulnerable conversation between two women draws a through-line between treasured stories of scripture and current contexts that allows for meaning-making and hope to shine in even the darkest corners of life.</p><p>Bio:</p><p>Hilary Seraph Donaldson is a church musician and researcher based in Toronto, Canada. She holds a Master of Sacred Music in Choral Conducting from Southern Methodist University (Dallas, TX) and a PhD in Musicology from the University of Toronto. Her research interests are centered on the intersection of English musical modernism and the sacred in the music of Benjamin Britten, music since 1900, the BBC, intersections in music and theology, and hymnology and congregational singing. Hilary serves as Director of Music at St. Andrew's United Church in downtown Toronto. She is passionate about expanding the singing repertoire of congregations and fostering practices of learning, vulnerability, and praying through the music of the global ecumenical movement in worship. She shares resources on enlivening congregational song through her website and web video series Break into Song. She is Immediate Past President of The Hymn Society in the United States and Canada.</p><p><br></p><p>Song: I Know God Holds You, Text: Hannah C. Brown, Music: Kate Williams</p><p><br></p><p><br></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 8: In Spirit and Truth: Music and Faith through the lens of Black Catholic Experience, Expression, and Heart</title>
      <description>Guests: M. Roger Holland, II and Dr. Kim R. Harris

M. Roger Holland, II is a Teaching Associate Professor in Music and Religion and Director of The Spirituals Project at the Lamont School of Music, University of Denver. A graduate of Union Theological Seminary in New York City where he received the Master of Divinity degree, Roger also served as Artist-in-Residence and director of the Union Gospel Choir for over 13 years. In 2015 Union awarded him the Trailblazers Distinguished Alumni Award, the first given to a graduate whose ministry is music, for his contributions to the legacy of African American music. He received a Master’s Degree in Piano Performance from the Manhattan School of Music, also in New York, and completed his undergraduate work at Westminster Choir College in Princeton, New Jersey where he majored in Music Education with a concentration in piano and voice.

Roger toured nationally and internationally with The Boys Choir of Harlem, working with them as a conductor, pianist, instructor and arranger for several of their recordings. Roger served as Minister of Music for Our Lady of Charity Roman Catholic Church in Brooklyn, NY for 12 years and is Liturgical Music Consultant for the New York Archdiocese Office of Black Ministry, acting as Music Director for their special Masses at St. Patrick’s Cathedral. Roger is the newly appointed editor of the In Spirit and Truth series published by GIA Publications, Inc., which reflects the aesthetic of Black Catholic worship. Commissioned works include The Dream and The Dreamer, The Tribulation Suite, and The Call. Original music collections published by GIA include “Building Up the Kingdom,” featuring the single “Worthy God,” and his recent collection, “Honey from the Rock, Vol. 1-4” He has played for the Broadway productions of Oprah Winfrey’s The Color Purple and the Tony award winning show, Memphis. In November 2016 Timothy Cardinal Dolan of the Archdiocese of New York presented Roger with the Pierre Toussaint Medallion for service. Dr. Kim R. Harris is the Associate Professor of African American Thought and Practice in the Department of Theological Studies at Loyola Marymount University. In addition to teaching courses on Black liberation and Womanist theologies, Harris leads music in a variety of liturgical and academic settings. She is a liturgist, composer and recording artist, presenting lectures on the music of the Black Catholic experience, the spirituals of the Underground Railroad and the freedom song of the modern Civil Rights Movement. Harris is a member of the Black Catholic Theological Symposium and the North American Academy of Liturgy. She is an academic member of the African American Catholic Center for Evangelization in the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, as well as a liturgical consultant for the Archdiocese of New York Office of Black Ministry. A gifted cantor, leader of song and a passionate cultural advocate, Harris earned a PhD in worship and the arts from Union Theological Seminary in the City of New York. In fulfillment of her degree, she composed Welcome Table: A Mass of Spirituals, one of the complete Mass settings included in the Lead Me Guide Black Catholic hymnal second edition (GIA Publications Inc).

Music from this episode:

Honey from the Rock, Entrance and Communion Antiphons for the Church Year, Arr. Holland
https://giamusic.com/resource/honey-from-the-rock-volume-1-print-g9233

Welcome Table Mass, arr. Harris/Holland
https://giamusic.com/resource/welcome-table-a-mass-of-spirituals-print-g8225

All of Me, Holland
https://giamusic.com/resource/all-of-me-print-g10512</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Feb 2025 06:01:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>In Spirit and Truth: Music and Faith through the lens of Black Catholic Experience, Expression, and Heart</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>GIA Publications</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Music touches us in ways that are physical, intellectual, emotional; it touches us socially and spiritually. The Black tradition, music of Black composers and storytellers, and Black faithful witness in the world enriches the whole people of God, in ways that have been both embraced and hindered by our beloved institutions. Join a conversation with two music and liturgy experts as we lift up their life journeys and passions, and challenge our communities to give thanks for the gift of Black excellence while we strive to make room for all God's people at a table of a truly rich and abundant feast.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guests: M. Roger Holland, II and Dr. Kim R. Harris

M. Roger Holland, II is a Teaching Associate Professor in Music and Religion and Director of The Spirituals Project at the Lamont School of Music, University of Denver. A graduate of Union Theological Seminary in New York City where he received the Master of Divinity degree, Roger also served as Artist-in-Residence and director of the Union Gospel Choir for over 13 years. In 2015 Union awarded him the Trailblazers Distinguished Alumni Award, the first given to a graduate whose ministry is music, for his contributions to the legacy of African American music. He received a Master’s Degree in Piano Performance from the Manhattan School of Music, also in New York, and completed his undergraduate work at Westminster Choir College in Princeton, New Jersey where he majored in Music Education with a concentration in piano and voice.

Roger toured nationally and internationally with The Boys Choir of Harlem, working with them as a conductor, pianist, instructor and arranger for several of their recordings. Roger served as Minister of Music for Our Lady of Charity Roman Catholic Church in Brooklyn, NY for 12 years and is Liturgical Music Consultant for the New York Archdiocese Office of Black Ministry, acting as Music Director for their special Masses at St. Patrick’s Cathedral. Roger is the newly appointed editor of the In Spirit and Truth series published by GIA Publications, Inc., which reflects the aesthetic of Black Catholic worship. Commissioned works include The Dream and The Dreamer, The Tribulation Suite, and The Call. Original music collections published by GIA include “Building Up the Kingdom,” featuring the single “Worthy God,” and his recent collection, “Honey from the Rock, Vol. 1-4” He has played for the Broadway productions of Oprah Winfrey’s The Color Purple and the Tony award winning show, Memphis. In November 2016 Timothy Cardinal Dolan of the Archdiocese of New York presented Roger with the Pierre Toussaint Medallion for service. Dr. Kim R. Harris is the Associate Professor of African American Thought and Practice in the Department of Theological Studies at Loyola Marymount University. In addition to teaching courses on Black liberation and Womanist theologies, Harris leads music in a variety of liturgical and academic settings. She is a liturgist, composer and recording artist, presenting lectures on the music of the Black Catholic experience, the spirituals of the Underground Railroad and the freedom song of the modern Civil Rights Movement. Harris is a member of the Black Catholic Theological Symposium and the North American Academy of Liturgy. She is an academic member of the African American Catholic Center for Evangelization in the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, as well as a liturgical consultant for the Archdiocese of New York Office of Black Ministry. A gifted cantor, leader of song and a passionate cultural advocate, Harris earned a PhD in worship and the arts from Union Theological Seminary in the City of New York. In fulfillment of her degree, she composed Welcome Table: A Mass of Spirituals, one of the complete Mass settings included in the Lead Me Guide Black Catholic hymnal second edition (GIA Publications Inc).

Music from this episode:

Honey from the Rock, Entrance and Communion Antiphons for the Church Year, Arr. Holland
https://giamusic.com/resource/honey-from-the-rock-volume-1-print-g9233

Welcome Table Mass, arr. Harris/Holland
https://giamusic.com/resource/welcome-table-a-mass-of-spirituals-print-g8225

All of Me, Holland
https://giamusic.com/resource/all-of-me-print-g10512</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Episode 7 - Invitation, Formation, Vocation: The Providential Journey of a Music Minister </title>
      <description>Who inspires you? Perhaps it is this week’s guest, Tony Alonso. This conversation explores the bravery, audacity, but above all the invitation that calls us toward this sacred vocation of music ministry. How is God speaking to you? Through desire, gumption, curiosity? Through the voice of another? Through mentors, teachers, models, examples? And how do you know when you’re on the right track? What difference does it make? Settle into this conversation and reflect on your own vocation and path. 
Guests: Tony Alonso
Tony Alonso is a Latin Grammy-nominated composer of sacred music and a theologian whose work responds to the diverse needs of the contemporary church. 
A Cuban-American Roman Catholic, Tony's compositions embrace multicultural musical expressions and reflect a commitment to strong ritual song. His music appears in compilations and hymnals across Christian denominations throughout the world. Tony’s Mass of Joy and Peace is one of the most widely sung Mass settings in the United States. In 2015, his compositional work was recognized with an invitation to compose the responsorial psalm for the first Mass Pope Francis celebrated in the United States. In 2020, he was nominated for a Latin Grammy for his groundbreaking album Caminemos con Jesús.
Tony's scholarly work lies at the intersection of liturgical theology and cultural studies. In 2019, he was awarded the Catherine Mowry LaCugna Award for new scholars for the best academic essay in the field of theology within the Roman Catholic tradition by the Catholic Theological Society of America. His book Commodified Communion: Eucharist, Consumer Culture, and the Practice of Everyday Life was awarded the 2021 Hispanic Theological Initiative Book Prize. Tony is Aquinas Associate Professor of Theology and Culture with tenure at Candler School of Theology at Emory University where he also serves as the inaugural Director of Catholic Studies.

Songs heard in this episode: 
G-4293, With the Lord There Is Mercy, from We Are God’s People, Cotter
G-10077, Caminemos Con Jesus, Alonso
G-8675, I Will Lift My Eyes, Alonso</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2025 06:01:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Invitation, Formation, Vocation: The Providential Journey of a Music Minister </itunes:title>
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      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>GIA Publications</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Who inspires you? Perhaps it is this week’s guest, Tony Alonso. This conversation explores the bravery, audacity, but above all the invitation that calls us toward this sacred vocation of music ministry. How is God speaking to you? Through desire, gumption, curiosity? Through the voice of another? Through mentors, teachers, models, examples? And how do you know when you’re on the right track? What difference does it make? Settle into this conversation and reflect on your own vocation and path.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Who inspires you? Perhaps it is this week’s guest, Tony Alonso. This conversation explores the bravery, audacity, but above all the invitation that calls us toward this sacred vocation of music ministry. How is God speaking to you? Through desire, gumption, curiosity? Through the voice of another? Through mentors, teachers, models, examples? And how do you know when you’re on the right track? What difference does it make? Settle into this conversation and reflect on your own vocation and path. 
Guests: Tony Alonso
Tony Alonso is a Latin Grammy-nominated composer of sacred music and a theologian whose work responds to the diverse needs of the contemporary church. 
A Cuban-American Roman Catholic, Tony's compositions embrace multicultural musical expressions and reflect a commitment to strong ritual song. His music appears in compilations and hymnals across Christian denominations throughout the world. Tony’s Mass of Joy and Peace is one of the most widely sung Mass settings in the United States. In 2015, his compositional work was recognized with an invitation to compose the responsorial psalm for the first Mass Pope Francis celebrated in the United States. In 2020, he was nominated for a Latin Grammy for his groundbreaking album Caminemos con Jesús.
Tony's scholarly work lies at the intersection of liturgical theology and cultural studies. In 2019, he was awarded the Catherine Mowry LaCugna Award for new scholars for the best academic essay in the field of theology within the Roman Catholic tradition by the Catholic Theological Society of America. His book Commodified Communion: Eucharist, Consumer Culture, and the Practice of Everyday Life was awarded the 2021 Hispanic Theological Initiative Book Prize. Tony is Aquinas Associate Professor of Theology and Culture with tenure at Candler School of Theology at Emory University where he also serves as the inaugural Director of Catholic Studies.

Songs heard in this episode: 
G-4293, With the Lord There Is Mercy, from We Are God’s People, Cotter
G-10077, Caminemos Con Jesus, Alonso
G-8675, I Will Lift My Eyes, Alonso</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Who inspires you? Perhaps it is this week’s guest, Tony Alonso. This conversation explores the bravery, audacity, but above all the invitation that calls us toward this sacred vocation of music ministry. How is God speaking to you? Through desire, gumption, curiosity? Through the voice of another? Through mentors, teachers, models, examples? And how do you know when you’re on the right track? What difference does it make? Settle into this conversation and reflect on your own vocation and path. </p><p>Guests: Tony Alonso</p><p>Tony Alonso is a Latin Grammy-nominated composer of sacred music and a theologian whose work responds to the diverse needs of the contemporary church. </p><p>A Cuban-American Roman Catholic, Tony's compositions embrace multicultural musical expressions and reflect a commitment to strong ritual song. His music appears in compilations and hymnals across Christian denominations throughout the world. Tony’s <em>Mass of Joy and Peace</em> is one of the most widely sung Mass settings in the United States. In 2015, his compositional work was recognized with an invitation to compose the responsorial psalm for the first Mass Pope Francis celebrated in the United States. In 2020, he was nominated for a Latin Grammy for his groundbreaking album <em>Caminemos con Jesús</em>.</p><p>Tony's scholarly work lies at the intersection of liturgical theology and cultural studies. In 2019, he was awarded the Catherine Mowry LaCugna Award for new scholars for the best academic essay in the field of theology within the Roman Catholic tradition by the Catholic Theological Society of America. His book <em>Commodified Communion: Eucharist, Consumer Culture, and the Practice of Everyday Life</em> was awarded the 2021 Hispanic Theological Initiative Book Prize. Tony is Aquinas Associate Professor of Theology and Culture with tenure at Candler School of Theology at Emory University where he also serves as the inaugural Director of Catholic Studies.</p><p><br></p><p>Songs heard in this episode: </p><p>G-4293, With the Lord There Is Mercy, from We Are God’s People, Cotter</p><p>G-10077, Caminemos Con Jesus, Alonso</p><p>G-8675, I Will Lift My Eyes, Alonso</p>]]>
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      <title>Audio Advent Wreath - Christmas Eve</title>
      <description>As we celebrate Christmas Eve, Kyle Cothern reflects on Psalm 96. Featuring music by Chris de Silva ("Silent Night" from Colours) and Richard Proulx ("Christmas Mass at Midnight: Psalm 96") both published by GIA Publications, Inc.</description>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Audio Advent Wreath - Christmas Eve</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>As we celebrate Christmas Eve, Kyle Cothern reflects on Psalm 96. Featuring music by Chris de Silva ("Silent Night" from Colours) and Richard Proulx ("Christmas Mass at Midnight: Psalm 96") both published by GIA Publications, Inc.</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Audio Advent Wreath - 4th Sunday of Advent</title>
      <description>As we light the fourth candle of the Advent Wreath, Jennifer Odegard reflects on Psalm 80. Featuring music by Chris de Silva ("Silent Night" from Colours) and Paul Hillebrand ("Lord, Make Us Turn to You: Psalm 80") both published by GIA Publications, Inc.</description>
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      <itunes:summary>As we light the fourth candle of the Advent Wreath, Jennifer Odegard reflects on Psalm 80. Featuring music by Chris de Silva ("Silent Night" from Colours) and Paul Hillebrand ("Lord, Make Us Turn to You: Psalm 80") both published by GIA Publications, Inc.</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Audio Advent Wreath - 3rd Sunday of Advent</title>
      <description>As we light the third candle of the Advent Wreath, Ed Bolduc reflects on Isaiah 12. Featuring music by Chris de Silva ("Silent Night" from Colours) and Aaron Thompson ("Cry Out With Joy and Gladness") both published by GIA Publications, Inc.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Dec 2024 11:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Audio Advent Wreath - Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception</title>
      <description>As we observe the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception, Sidran Olson reflects on Psalm 98. Featuring music by Chris de Silva ("Grace" from Colours) and Kiran Young Wimberly ("Sing to the Lord") both published by GIA Publications, Inc.</description>
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      <itunes:summary>As we observe the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception, Sidran Olson reflects on Psalm 98. Featuring music by Chris de Silva ("Grace" from Colours) and Kiran Young Wimberly ("Sing to the Lord") both published by GIA Publications, Inc.</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Audio Advent Wreath - 2nd Sunday of Advent</title>
      <description>As we light the second candle of the Advent Wreath, Alan Hommerding reflects on Psalm 126. Featuring music by Chris de Silva ("Silent Night" from Colours) and W. Clifford Petty ("We Are Filled with Joy") both published by GIA Publications, Inc.</description>
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      <title>Episode 6 - Another Tuesday with Michael</title>
      <description>Join a conversation that fits like an old glove—Michael Silhavy jumps back in for our ongoing push and pull, the ever-present dialogue across generations. One rear-view mirror, one headlight, both essential parts of safely innovating our way into the future. This tension need not be one filled with animosity, but indeed is one that takes careful consideration, respect, and open hearts toward a common goal. Always a work in progress.

Guests: Michael Silhavy

Michael Silhavy is GIA’s Senior Project Editor. With degrees in music education, theology, and liturgical studies from De Paul University, Loyola University (Chicago), and Saint John’s University (Collegeville, MN), Michael has worked in parish, grade school, university, cathedral, and diocesan settings. He values the weekly experience of making music with a congregation as director of music at St. Mary Church, Riverside, Illinois. His work at GIA centers around choral and congregational music, hymnals, and working with composers and authors to create musical and liturgical resources for both Roman Catholic congregations and the wider ecumenical community. He worked with noted composer Richard Proulx in creating The Richard Proulx Collection, an annotated catalog of Proulx’s published and unpublished compositions housed at Saint John’s University in Collegeville, Minnesota and he contributed biographies on American composers and authors for the Canterbury Dictionary of Hymnology.

Songs heard in this episode: 
G-2371, Anthem for Pentecost, Proulx
G-10804, Shepherd Me, O God arr. Holland</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Dec 2024 06:01:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>GIA Publications</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Join a conversation that fits like an old glove—Michael Silhavy jumps back in for our ongoing push and pull, the ever-present dialogue across generations. One rear-view mirror, one headlight, both essential parts of safely innovating our way into the future. This tension need not be one filled with animosity, but indeed is one that takes careful consideration, respect, and open hearts toward a common goal. Always a work in progress.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Join a conversation that fits like an old glove—Michael Silhavy jumps back in for our ongoing push and pull, the ever-present dialogue across generations. One rear-view mirror, one headlight, both essential parts of safely innovating our way into the future. This tension need not be one filled with animosity, but indeed is one that takes careful consideration, respect, and open hearts toward a common goal. Always a work in progress.

Guests: Michael Silhavy

Michael Silhavy is GIA’s Senior Project Editor. With degrees in music education, theology, and liturgical studies from De Paul University, Loyola University (Chicago), and Saint John’s University (Collegeville, MN), Michael has worked in parish, grade school, university, cathedral, and diocesan settings. He values the weekly experience of making music with a congregation as director of music at St. Mary Church, Riverside, Illinois. His work at GIA centers around choral and congregational music, hymnals, and working with composers and authors to create musical and liturgical resources for both Roman Catholic congregations and the wider ecumenical community. He worked with noted composer Richard Proulx in creating The Richard Proulx Collection, an annotated catalog of Proulx’s published and unpublished compositions housed at Saint John’s University in Collegeville, Minnesota and he contributed biographies on American composers and authors for the Canterbury Dictionary of Hymnology.

Songs heard in this episode: 
G-2371, Anthem for Pentecost, Proulx
G-10804, Shepherd Me, O God arr. Holland</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Audio Advent Wreath - 1st Sunday of Advent</title>
      <description>As we light the first candle of the Advent Wreath, Victoria Zibell reflects on Psalm 25. Featuring music by Chris de Silva ("Winter" from Colours) and Leon C. Roberts ("To You, O Lord, I Lift My Soul) both published by GIA Publications, Inc.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 01 Dec 2024 11:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>A reflection on Psalm 25 from the 1st Sunday of Advent.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>As we light the first candle of the Advent Wreath, Victoria Zibell reflects on Psalm 25. Featuring music by Chris de Silva ("Winter" from Colours) and Leon C. Roberts ("To You, O Lord, I Lift My Soul) both published by GIA Publications, Inc.</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Episode 5 - With Whoever I Am, All I Am: This Is My Place</title>
      <description> From the font of her baptism in the Philippines, to the overflowing waters of Initiation ministry and musical creativity, Diana Macalintal's faith journey reads like a true love story straight from the heart of God. In this candid and fruitful discussion, we discuss belonging, identity, awareness, representation, women in composition, and that ever-mysterious yet deeply tangible presence of Christ in the Eucharist and through one another.
Guests: Diana Macalintal
Diana Macalintal is the cofounder and codirector of teaminitiation.com and of Liturgy.life and is passionate about the catechumenate and Roman Catholic liturgy and music. She holds a Master of Arts in Theology from Saint John’s University in Collegeville, Minnesota, and served in campus, parish, and diocesan ministries for 30 years, including 15 years as a diocesan director of worship. Her books and articles can be found among most major Catholic publishers, and her compositions and translations are published with World Library Publications, GIA Publications, Inc., and Oregon Catholic Press.Songs heard in this episode: 
G-10335 Sweeter Than Life, Macalintal: https://giamusic.com/resource/sweeter-than-life-print-g10335
G-8009 Christ Has No Body Now But Yours, Lawton/de Silva: https://giamusic.com/resource/christ-has-no-body-now-but-yours-print-g8009</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2024 17:44:48 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>With Whoever I Am, All I Am: This Is My Place</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>GIA Publications</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle> From the font of her baptism in the Philippines, to the overflowing waters of Initiation ministry and musical creativity, Diana Macalintal's faith journey reads like a true love story straight from the heart of God. In this candid and fruitful discussion, we discuss belonging, identity, awareness, representation, women in composition, and that ever-mysterious yet deeply tangible presence of Christ in the Eucharist and through one another.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary> From the font of her baptism in the Philippines, to the overflowing waters of Initiation ministry and musical creativity, Diana Macalintal's faith journey reads like a true love story straight from the heart of God. In this candid and fruitful discussion, we discuss belonging, identity, awareness, representation, women in composition, and that ever-mysterious yet deeply tangible presence of Christ in the Eucharist and through one another.
Guests: Diana Macalintal
Diana Macalintal is the cofounder and codirector of teaminitiation.com and of Liturgy.life and is passionate about the catechumenate and Roman Catholic liturgy and music. She holds a Master of Arts in Theology from Saint John’s University in Collegeville, Minnesota, and served in campus, parish, and diocesan ministries for 30 years, including 15 years as a diocesan director of worship. Her books and articles can be found among most major Catholic publishers, and her compositions and translations are published with World Library Publications, GIA Publications, Inc., and Oregon Catholic Press.Songs heard in this episode: 
G-10335 Sweeter Than Life, Macalintal: https://giamusic.com/resource/sweeter-than-life-print-g10335
G-8009 Christ Has No Body Now But Yours, Lawton/de Silva: https://giamusic.com/resource/christ-has-no-body-now-but-yours-print-g8009</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Episode 4 - Pastors, Music Directors, and Conflict Resilience</title>
      <description>How many times have you wanted to flip the table of your own parish staff meeting? How much psychological safety do you experience in your workplace? Who makes the decisions when multiple voices of expertise are at the table, and how can the hierarchy of power dynamics hinder our relationship building on our own pastoral staff? How do we train our leadership to set up the right kinds of environments to make optimal the kinds of decisions you need to make? Explore all these questions and more with the co-founder of the Cambridge Negotiation Institute, Bob Bordone, to see how best practices in conflict resolution can benefit the working relationships between pastors, musicians, parish staffs, and the diversity of gifts in the congregations they serve alongside.
Guest: Bob Bordone, Cambridge Negotiation Institute
Robert C. Bordone (Bob) is an internationally-recognized expert, author, speaker, and teacher in negotiation, conflict resolution, mediation, and facilitation.  A Senior Fellow at Harvard Law School, he served on the full-time faculty at Harvard Law School for more than twenty years as the Thaddeus R. Beal Clinical Professor of Law, Director, and Founder of the Harvard Negotiation &amp; Mediation Clinical Program before launching his full-time consulting, advisory, speaking, and training practice.  He also serves as the Director of the Consensus Building Institute Training Academy and as an Adjunct Professor at Georgetown University Law Center. Bob has has also been a Visiting Clinical Professor of Conflict Transformation at Boston University’s School of Theology.
Bob’s current research and writing interests include the assessment, reform, design, and implementation of dispute handling systems and developing and testing methods of effective public dialogue on issues that cut to the core of identity, meaning, belonging, and belief. As part of this work on healthy dialogue, Bob has teamed with a media company called The Disagreement that fosters engaging and respectful conversation across lines of difference. In addition, he is currently writing Conflict Resilience: Negotiating Disagreement Without Giving Up or Giving In (HarperCollins Business, 2025) with Joel Salinas, MD and is the co-author of two books: Designing Systems and Processes for Managing Disputes, 2d. Edition (Wolters-Kluwer, 2019) and The Handbook of Dispute Resolution (Jossey-Bass, 2005). He has also published articles in leading business and dispute resolution journals including the Harvard Business Review, the Harvard Law Review, the Harvard Negotiation Law Review, the Ohio State Journal on Dispute Resolution, the Journal of Dispute Resolution, Negotiation Briefings, Dispute Resolution Magazine, and Negotiation Journal. Bob’s writing and commentary have appeared in various print and broadcast media outlets including NBC News, The Boston Globe, The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, America, The Chicago Tribune, CNN’s Situation Room, and BBC Radio.
Bob received his J.D., cum laude, from Harvard Law School, and his A.B., summa cum laude, from Dartmouth College where he majored in Government.Follow him on Twitter with the handle @bobbordone on his website at www.bobbordone.com or by subscribing to his YouTube channel.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2024 05:01:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Pastors, Music Directors, and Conflict Resilience</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>GIA Publications</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>How many times have you wanted to flip the table of your own parish staff meeting? How much psychological safety do you experience in your workplace? Who makes the decisions when multiple voices of expertise are at the table, and how can the hierarchy of power dynamics hinder our relationship building on our own pastoral staff? How do we train our leadership to set up the right kinds of environments to make optimal the kinds of decisions you need to make? Explore all these questions and more with the co-founder of the Cambridge Negotiation Institute, Bob Bordone, to see how best practices in conflict resolution can benefit the working relationships between pastors, musicians, parish staffs, and the diversity of gifts in the congregations they serve alongside.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>How many times have you wanted to flip the table of your own parish staff meeting? How much psychological safety do you experience in your workplace? Who makes the decisions when multiple voices of expertise are at the table, and how can the hierarchy of power dynamics hinder our relationship building on our own pastoral staff? How do we train our leadership to set up the right kinds of environments to make optimal the kinds of decisions you need to make? Explore all these questions and more with the co-founder of the Cambridge Negotiation Institute, Bob Bordone, to see how best practices in conflict resolution can benefit the working relationships between pastors, musicians, parish staffs, and the diversity of gifts in the congregations they serve alongside.
Guest: Bob Bordone, Cambridge Negotiation Institute
Robert C. Bordone (Bob) is an internationally-recognized expert, author, speaker, and teacher in negotiation, conflict resolution, mediation, and facilitation.  A Senior Fellow at Harvard Law School, he served on the full-time faculty at Harvard Law School for more than twenty years as the Thaddeus R. Beal Clinical Professor of Law, Director, and Founder of the Harvard Negotiation &amp; Mediation Clinical Program before launching his full-time consulting, advisory, speaking, and training practice.  He also serves as the Director of the Consensus Building Institute Training Academy and as an Adjunct Professor at Georgetown University Law Center. Bob has has also been a Visiting Clinical Professor of Conflict Transformation at Boston University’s School of Theology.
Bob’s current research and writing interests include the assessment, reform, design, and implementation of dispute handling systems and developing and testing methods of effective public dialogue on issues that cut to the core of identity, meaning, belonging, and belief. As part of this work on healthy dialogue, Bob has teamed with a media company called The Disagreement that fosters engaging and respectful conversation across lines of difference. In addition, he is currently writing Conflict Resilience: Negotiating Disagreement Without Giving Up or Giving In (HarperCollins Business, 2025) with Joel Salinas, MD and is the co-author of two books: Designing Systems and Processes for Managing Disputes, 2d. Edition (Wolters-Kluwer, 2019) and The Handbook of Dispute Resolution (Jossey-Bass, 2005). He has also published articles in leading business and dispute resolution journals including the Harvard Business Review, the Harvard Law Review, the Harvard Negotiation Law Review, the Ohio State Journal on Dispute Resolution, the Journal of Dispute Resolution, Negotiation Briefings, Dispute Resolution Magazine, and Negotiation Journal. Bob’s writing and commentary have appeared in various print and broadcast media outlets including NBC News, The Boston Globe, The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, America, The Chicago Tribune, CNN’s Situation Room, and BBC Radio.
Bob received his J.D., cum laude, from Harvard Law School, and his A.B., summa cum laude, from Dartmouth College where he majored in Government.Follow him on Twitter with the handle @bobbordone on his website at www.bobbordone.com or by subscribing to his YouTube channel.</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How many times have you wanted to flip the table of your own parish staff meeting? How much psychological safety do you experience in your workplace? Who makes the decisions when multiple voices of expertise are at the table, and how can the hierarchy of power dynamics hinder our relationship building on our own pastoral staff? How do we train our leadership to set up the right kinds of environments to make optimal the kinds of decisions you need to make? Explore all these questions and more with the co-founder of the Cambridge Negotiation Institute, Bob Bordone, to see how best practices in conflict resolution can benefit the working relationships between pastors, musicians, parish staffs, and the diversity of gifts in the congregations they serve alongside.</p><p>Guest: Bob Bordone, Cambridge Negotiation Institute</p><p><a href="http://www.bobbordone.com/">Robert C. Bordone</a> (Bob) is an internationally-recognized expert, author, speaker, and teacher in negotiation, conflict resolution, mediation, and facilitation.  A Senior Fellow at <a href="https://hls.harvard.edu/">Harvard Law School</a>, he served on the full-time faculty at Harvard Law School for more than twenty years as the Thaddeus R. Beal Clinical Professor of Law, Director, and Founder of the<a href="https://hnmcp.law.harvard.edu/"> Harvard Negotiation &amp; Mediation Clinical Program</a> before launching his full-time consulting, advisory, speaking, and training practice.  He also serves as the Director of the <a href="https://www.cbi.org/">Consensus Building Institute</a> Training Academy and as an Adjunct Professor at <a href="https://www.law.georgetown.edu/">Georgetown University Law Center</a>. Bob has has also been a Visiting Clinical Professor of Conflict Transformation at <a href="https://www.bu.edu/sth/">Boston University’s School of Theology</a>.</p><p>Bob’s current research and writing interests include the assessment, reform, design, and implementation of dispute handling systems and developing and testing methods of effective public dialogue on issues that cut to the core of identity, meaning, belonging, and belief. As part of this work on healthy dialogue, Bob has teamed with a media company called <a href="https://www.thedisagreement.com/coaching">The Disagreement</a> that fosters engaging and respectful conversation across lines of difference. In addition, he is currently writing <em>Conflict Resilience: Negotiating Disagreement Without Giving Up or Giving In </em>(<a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/">HarperCollins Business</a>, 2025) with Joel Salinas, MD and is the co-author of two books: <em>Designing Systems and Processes for Managing Disputes</em>, 2d. Edition (Wolters-Kluwer, 2019) and <em>The Handbook of Dispute Resolution </em>(Jossey-Bass, 2005). He has also published articles in leading business and dispute resolution journals including the <a href="https://hbr.org/2021/11/these-strategies-will-help-you-influence-how-decisions-get-made?ab=hero-subleft-2">Harvard Business Review</a>, the <a href="https://harvardlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/pdfs/vol126_fisher_tribute.pdf">Harvard Law Review</a>, the Harvard Negotiation Law Review, the Ohio State Journal on Dispute Resolution, the Journal of Dispute Resolution, Negotiation Briefings, Dispute Resolution Magazine, and Negotiation Journal. Bob’s writing and commentary have appeared in various print and broadcast media outlets including NBC News, The Boston Globe, The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, America, The Chicago Tribune, CNN’s Situation Room, and BBC Radio.</p><p>Bob received his J.D., <em>cum laude</em>, from <a href="https://www.law.harvard.edu/">Harvard Law School</a>, and his A.B., <em>summa cum laude, </em>from <a href="https://www.dartmouth.edu/">Dartmouth College</a> where he majored in Government.Follow him on Twitter with the handle @bobbordone on his website at <a href="http://www.bobbordone.com/">www.bobbordone.com</a> or by subscribing to his <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@bobbordone2422">YouTube channel</a>.</p>]]>
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      <description>It's always more than just a song, than just singing: it's a language, a communication style, a tool of liberation and a transformational symbol of unity. Chicagoland author Madison Chastain highlights two key ways that music has shown up in her life: in interdenominational relationships and as an embodied experience for bodies of all abilities. Accessibility is a key ingredient of good liturgical practice, ensuring the participation of the whole community. Madison's wisdom centers around this question: how can bearing witness to these diverse ways of interacting with and encountering the divine--through music!--is ministry. If a person with a disability is displaying a new way of engaging with Jesus, this is an opportunity to follow their lead, a way to see a fuller picture of Image and Likeness of our Creator.
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      <title>Episode 2 - What Remains?</title>
      <description>What do you do in the midst of loss and grief? Perhaps one essential part on our journey is to find someone who can accompany us, someone who knows life's ebbs and flows well, someone who can help us keep putting one foot in front of the other, or keep vigil with us while we wait. Music, like a good friend, might help us bridge those gaps. Music, with a good friend, can mark our seasons with beauty and dignity, reminding us that we are never alone. Loss is real--so, too, is all that remains. How can we show up for each other? In loving memory of Charlie Odegard.
Guest: Jennifer Schmidt Odegard</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2024 05:02:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>What do you do in the midst of loss and grief? Perhaps one essential part on our journey is to find someone who can accompany us, someone who knows life's ebbs and flows well, someone who can help us keep putting one foot in front of the other, or keep vigil with us while we wait. Music, like a good friend, might help us bridge those gaps. Music, with a good friend, can mark our seasons with beauty and dignity, reminding us that we are never alone. Loss is real--so, too, is all that remains. How can we show up for each other? In loving memory of Charlie Odegard.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>What do you do in the midst of loss and grief? Perhaps one essential part on our journey is to find someone who can accompany us, someone who knows life's ebbs and flows well, someone who can help us keep putting one foot in front of the other, or keep vigil with us while we wait. Music, like a good friend, might help us bridge those gaps. Music, with a good friend, can mark our seasons with beauty and dignity, reminding us that we are never alone. Loss is real--so, too, is all that remains. How can we show up for each other? In loving memory of Charlie Odegard.
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      <description>It's more than any one liturgy, any one language, any one culture, and certainly more than any single song. One thing that can keep us grounded in our daily labors is the remembering of what brought us here, and what keeps us pushing forward. What's your reason? What has captivated you? Who's a part of your picture? Where do you find vitality? What's your place in this dream of Kingdom-building?
Guests: Peter Kolar and Julio de León</description>
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      <itunes:summary>It's more than any one liturgy, any one language, any one culture, and certainly more than any single song. One thing that can keep us grounded in our daily labors is the remembering of what brought us here, and what keeps us pushing forward. What's your reason? What has captivated you? Who's a part of your picture? Where do you find vitality? What's your place in this dream of Kingdom-building?
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      <description>A sample of what to expect from the first few episodes of Interchange. Please subscribe so you don't miss an episode!</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Jul 2024 03:58:13 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>A sample of what to expect from the first few episodes of Interchange. Please subscribe so you don't miss an episode!</itunes:subtitle>
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