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    <title>Earn the Call with Gregg Bedol</title>
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    <description>Gregg Bedol sits down with lawyers, accountants, consultants, and fractional executives to talk about building relationships, and how they became top of mind.



They spent years earning the call, and they talk about the successes, the takeaways, and the regrets and mistakes along the way.



Hosted by Gregg Bedol. Presented by BD4.</description>
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    <itunes:author>Gregg Bedol</itunes:author>
    <itunes:summary>Gregg Bedol sits down with lawyers, accountants, consultants, and fractional executives to talk about building relationships, and how they became top of mind.



They spent years earning the call, and they talk about the successes, the takeaways, and the regrets and mistakes along the way.



Hosted by Gregg Bedol. Presented by BD4.</itunes:summary>
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<p><br></p>
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<p><br></p>
<p>Hosted by Gregg Bedol. Presented by BD4.</p>]]>
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      <title>Why The Best Pitches Aren't About What You're Selling with Alan Spurgin</title>
      <description>Alan Spurgin's 30-second pitch never mentioned the loan he was selling. Al spent 35 years in technology, finance, and banking, most recently co-managing CIBC Innovation Banking's US software and technology practice, after leadership roles at Silicon Valley Bank, Square 1 Bank, and Bridge Bank. He is now a Partner at Marlborough Street Partners (marlboroughst.com). In this conversation with Gregg Bedol, Al explains why expertise gets you in the door but doesn't necessarily close, how warm intros he never got paid for built trust with investors, what happened when he had to tell a client he couldn't deliver a deal, and why some of his best relationships took two years to turn into business. Learn more about BD4 at bd4pros.com.



(00:00) Cold Open and Meet Al Spurgin
(01:54) Fly Fishing, Golf, Travel, and Italy
(04:13) His First Deal, a Warm Intro
(07:07) Why Money Is Not the Pitch
(08:38) Learning on a Low-Risk Deal
(10:04) Build Relationships a Year Early
(12:17) Earning Trust with Active Investors
(14:40) How Warm Intros Built Goodwill
(17:10) Staying Top of Mind Without Pestering
(19:02) From Cocktail Reception to Follow-Up
(22:02) Expertise Gets You in the Door
(25:51) Not the Big Personality in the Room
(26:57) Becoming the Trusted Advisor
(28:26) Offering a Straw Man on Terms
(29:55) When Deals Go Sideways
(32:21) Pitching a Deal You Can't Get
(33:58) Telling a Client You Can't Deliver
(36:09) Knowing When to Walk Away
(37:04) A Belief Others Disagree With
(39:33) First Step for the Uncomfortable
(42:29) Practicing the 30-Second Pitch
(43:40) What Al's 30-Second Pitch Left Out
(45:05) What Made People Remember Him
(46:55) Networking Is a Long Game
(48:51) Inflection Points in Relationships</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2026 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Gregg Bedol</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Alan Spurgin's 30-second pitch never mentioned the loan he was selling. Al spent 35 years in technology, finance, and banking, most recently co-managing CIBC Innovation Banking's US software and technology practice, after leadership roles at Silicon Valley Bank, Square 1 Bank, and Bridge Bank. He is now a Partner at Marlborough Street Partners (marlboroughst.com). In this conversation with Gregg Bedol, Al explains why expertise gets you in the door but doesn't necessarily close, how warm intros he never got paid for built trust with investors, what happened when he had to tell a client he couldn't deliver a deal, and why some of his best relationships took two years to turn into business. Learn more about BD4 at bd4pros.com.



(00:00) Cold Open and Meet Al Spurgin
(01:54) Fly Fishing, Golf, Travel, and Italy
(04:13) His First Deal, a Warm Intro
(07:07) Why Money Is Not the Pitch
(08:38) Learning on a Low-Risk Deal
(10:04) Build Relationships a Year Early
(12:17) Earning Trust with Active Investors
(14:40) How Warm Intros Built Goodwill
(17:10) Staying Top of Mind Without Pestering
(19:02) From Cocktail Reception to Follow-Up
(22:02) Expertise Gets You in the Door
(25:51) Not the Big Personality in the Room
(26:57) Becoming the Trusted Advisor
(28:26) Offering a Straw Man on Terms
(29:55) When Deals Go Sideways
(32:21) Pitching a Deal You Can't Get
(33:58) Telling a Client You Can't Deliver
(36:09) Knowing When to Walk Away
(37:04) A Belief Others Disagree With
(39:33) First Step for the Uncomfortable
(42:29) Practicing the 30-Second Pitch
(43:40) What Al's 30-Second Pitch Left Out
(45:05) What Made People Remember Him
(46:55) Networking Is a Long Game
(48:51) Inflection Points in Relationships</itunes:summary>
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<p>(00:00) Cold Open and Meet Al Spurgin
(01:54) Fly Fishing, Golf, Travel, and Italy
(04:13) His First Deal, a Warm Intro
(07:07) Why Money Is Not the Pitch
(08:38) Learning on a Low-Risk Deal
(10:04) Build Relationships a Year Early
(12:17) Earning Trust with Active Investors
(14:40) How Warm Intros Built Goodwill
(17:10) Staying Top of Mind Without Pestering
(19:02) From Cocktail Reception to Follow-Up
(22:02) Expertise Gets You in the Door
(25:51) Not the Big Personality in the Room
(26:57) Becoming the Trusted Advisor
(28:26) Offering a Straw Man on Terms
(29:55) When Deals Go Sideways
(32:21) Pitching a Deal You Can't Get
(33:58) Telling a Client You Can't Deliver
(36:09) Knowing When to Walk Away
(37:04) A Belief Others Disagree With
(39:33) First Step for the Uncomfortable
(42:29) Practicing the 30-Second Pitch
(43:40) What Al's 30-Second Pitch Left Out
(45:05) What Made People Remember Him
(46:55) Networking Is a Long Game
(48:51) Inflection Points in Relationships</p>
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      <title>Pick the Market You Can Own with Gale Crosley</title>
      <description>When Gale Crosley starts with a firm, one of the first things she asks is how many fish are in the pond. The CPA and former IBM mainframe seller walks Gregg Bedol through picking an industry to go all in on, finding who holds the power in a deal, and the research calls she makes instead of cold calls. Follow the show. Learn more at bd4pros.com.

0:00 Three quarters will never buy
0:10 Welcome Gale Crosley
1:14 The trouble with rainmakers
3:00 Big Four selling like the 1970s
4:12 What cross selling gets wrong
4:36 Power and politics in the deal
7:00 The questions nobody asks
9:07 Harry and the human problem
10:55 What relationships are for
12:08 Generally accepted growth principles
12:55 Persuasion happens one on one
14:10 How a CPA landed at IBM
17:19 Both at Arthur Andersen Cleveland
18:07 Selling around your billings
19:35 Books to train yourself
21:03 Where BD4 fits
22:15 Coaching and muscle memory
23:12 Pick your school of fish
25:00 Choose the industry first
26:30 Stop taking all comers
28:35 The Decatur, Georgia trade off
29:45 How many fish in the pond
31:20 Check the competition
32:20 The awards and her purpose
35:22 $11,000 in year one
36:19 Where research calls started
38:21 Fired after 90 days
40:52 Research calls, not cold calls
43:32 Presented by BD4</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2026 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Gregg Bedol</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>When Gale Crosley starts with a firm, one of the first things she asks is how many fish are in the pond. The CPA and former IBM mainframe seller walks Gregg Bedol through picking an industry to go all in on, finding who holds the power in a deal, and the research calls she makes instead of cold calls. Follow the show. Learn more at bd4pros.com.

0:00 Three quarters will never buy
0:10 Welcome Gale Crosley
1:14 The trouble with rainmakers
3:00 Big Four selling like the 1970s
4:12 What cross selling gets wrong
4:36 Power and politics in the deal
7:00 The questions nobody asks
9:07 Harry and the human problem
10:55 What relationships are for
12:08 Generally accepted growth principles
12:55 Persuasion happens one on one
14:10 How a CPA landed at IBM
17:19 Both at Arthur Andersen Cleveland
18:07 Selling around your billings
19:35 Books to train yourself
21:03 Where BD4 fits
22:15 Coaching and muscle memory
23:12 Pick your school of fish
25:00 Choose the industry first
26:30 Stop taking all comers
28:35 The Decatur, Georgia trade off
29:45 How many fish in the pond
31:20 Check the competition
32:20 The awards and her purpose
35:22 $11,000 in year one
36:19 Where research calls started
38:21 Fired after 90 days
40:52 Research calls, not cold calls
43:32 Presented by BD4</itunes:summary>
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0:00 Three quarters will never buy
0:10 Welcome Gale Crosley
1:14 The trouble with rainmakers
3:00 Big Four selling like the 1970s
4:12 What cross selling gets wrong
4:36 Power and politics in the deal
7:00 The questions nobody asks
9:07 Harry and the human problem
10:55 What relationships are for
12:08 Generally accepted growth principles
12:55 Persuasion happens one on one
14:10 How a CPA landed at IBM
17:19 Both at Arthur Andersen Cleveland
18:07 Selling around your billings
19:35 Books to train yourself
21:03 Where BD4 fits
22:15 Coaching and muscle memory
23:12 Pick your school of fish
25:00 Choose the industry first
26:30 Stop taking all comers
28:35 The Decatur, Georgia trade off
29:45 How many fish in the pond
31:20 Check the competition
32:20 The awards and her purpose
35:22 $11,000 in year one
36:19 Where research calls started
38:21 Fired after 90 days
40:52 Research calls, not cold calls
43:32 Presented by BD4</p>]]>
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      <title>Know If Your Deal Actually Has a Path to Winning with Bruce Kopkin</title>
      <description>Bruce Kopkin puts two numbers on a deal. The first is whether the client will buy at all, and the second is whether they'll buy from him. If he's 80% sure they want him but there's only a 25% chance the budget gets approved, he's looking at a 20% deal, even though most salespeople would log it as an 80. Bruce is a fractional chief sales and revenue officer at TechCXO, and he walks Gregg Bedol through how he reads the odds. He narrows to the customers most likely to buy, finds the person who actually has the vote, and exits when the signs aren't there. He also admits it took him about 20 years to learn when to leave.



What You'll Hear in This Episode

- Bruce still plays competitive baseball in the men’s senior league, second base after the shoulder, Braves all the way.

- An electrical engineer who left the drafting board for sales engineering, then spent decades solving problems in high tech and manufacturing.

- How selling yourself as a fractional executive is still selling an outcome, not bragging, once you back it with proof.

- Jack Burke’s logic chain: keep asking so what until you hit a business gain and a personal gain.

- Why a wide net wastes time, and why chase five and win three beats chase ten and win one.

- How to earn the right to get introduced up, and how to exit when there is no path to a yes.

- Building a BD habit when delivery is still the job, including about 20% of your time and volunteering instead of circling the room.

- What he would tell himself 40 years ago about letting emotion keep a low probability deal alive.



(0:00) Brain knew it was time to leave

(0:13) Welcome Bruce Kopkin

(0:50) Baseball and the Braves

(2:49) Engineer who got into sales

(4:04) Selling yourself as fractional

(5:31) Lemonade stand and cost of goods

(8:20) Jack Burke and the logic chain

(9:55) Business gain and personal gain

(11:05) You are what delivers the outcome

(13:30) Why they came to you

(14:53) Ideal customer profile

(16:45) Chase five and win three

(18:34) How you know they need it

(20:10) When the deal went wrong

(22:27) Feedback after wins and losses

(23:20) Earn the right to ask up

(24:25) Exit when there is no path

(26:45) Twenty percent for business development

(28:50) How a fifteen-year person starts

(30:17) Face to face still matters

(31:19) Volunteer, do not just attend

(32:35) Advice for introverts

(35:45) What he would tell himself then

(37:54) Keep the fit warm when it is not now

(39:32) How to reach Bruce

(40:50) Presented by BD4



Bruce is a partner in TechCXO's revenue growth practice.

Email: bruce.kopkin@techcxo.com

 https://www.techcxo.com/partners/bruce-kopkin/</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2026 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Gregg Bedol</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Bruce Kopkin puts two numbers on a deal. The first is whether the client will buy at all, and the second is whether they'll buy from him. If he's 80% sure they want him but there's only a 25% chance the budget gets approved, he's looking at a 20% deal, even though most salespeople would log it as an 80. Bruce is a fractional chief sales and revenue officer at TechCXO, and he walks Gregg Bedol through how he reads the odds. He narrows to the customers most likely to buy, finds the person who actually has the vote, and exits when the signs aren't there. He also admits it took him about 20 years to learn when to leave.



What You'll Hear in This Episode

- Bruce still plays competitive baseball in the men’s senior league, second base after the shoulder, Braves all the way.

- An electrical engineer who left the drafting board for sales engineering, then spent decades solving problems in high tech and manufacturing.

- How selling yourself as a fractional executive is still selling an outcome, not bragging, once you back it with proof.

- Jack Burke’s logic chain: keep asking so what until you hit a business gain and a personal gain.

- Why a wide net wastes time, and why chase five and win three beats chase ten and win one.

- How to earn the right to get introduced up, and how to exit when there is no path to a yes.

- Building a BD habit when delivery is still the job, including about 20% of your time and volunteering instead of circling the room.

- What he would tell himself 40 years ago about letting emotion keep a low probability deal alive.



(0:00) Brain knew it was time to leave

(0:13) Welcome Bruce Kopkin

(0:50) Baseball and the Braves

(2:49) Engineer who got into sales

(4:04) Selling yourself as fractional

(5:31) Lemonade stand and cost of goods

(8:20) Jack Burke and the logic chain

(9:55) Business gain and personal gain

(11:05) You are what delivers the outcome

(13:30) Why they came to you

(14:53) Ideal customer profile

(16:45) Chase five and win three

(18:34) How you know they need it

(20:10) When the deal went wrong

(22:27) Feedback after wins and losses

(23:20) Earn the right to ask up

(24:25) Exit when there is no path

(26:45) Twenty percent for business development

(28:50) How a fifteen-year person starts

(30:17) Face to face still matters

(31:19) Volunteer, do not just attend

(32:35) Advice for introverts

(35:45) What he would tell himself then

(37:54) Keep the fit warm when it is not now

(39:32) How to reach Bruce

(40:50) Presented by BD4



Bruce is a partner in TechCXO's revenue growth practice.

Email: bruce.kopkin@techcxo.com

 https://www.techcxo.com/partners/bruce-kopkin/</itunes:summary>
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<p><br></p>
<p>What You'll Hear in This Episode</p>
<p>- Bruce still plays competitive baseball in the men’s senior league, second base after the shoulder, Braves all the way.</p>
<p>- An electrical engineer who left the drafting board for sales engineering, then spent decades solving problems in high tech and manufacturing.</p>
<p>- How selling yourself as a fractional executive is still selling an outcome, not bragging, once you back it with proof.</p>
<p>- Jack Burke’s logic chain: keep asking so what until you hit a business gain and a personal gain.</p>
<p>- Why a wide net wastes time, and why chase five and win three beats chase ten and win one.</p>
<p>- How to earn the right to get introduced up, and how to exit when there is no path to a yes.</p>
<p>- Building a BD habit when delivery is still the job, including about 20% of your time and volunteering instead of circling the room.</p>
<p>- What he would tell himself 40 years ago about letting emotion keep a low probability deal alive.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>(0:00) Brain knew it was time to leave</p>
<p>(0:13) Welcome Bruce Kopkin</p>
<p>(0:50) Baseball and the Braves</p>
<p>(2:49) Engineer who got into sales</p>
<p>(4:04) Selling yourself as fractional</p>
<p>(5:31) Lemonade stand and cost of goods</p>
<p>(8:20) Jack Burke and the logic chain</p>
<p>(9:55) Business gain and personal gain</p>
<p>(11:05) You are what delivers the outcome</p>
<p>(13:30) Why they came to you</p>
<p>(14:53) Ideal customer profile</p>
<p>(16:45) Chase five and win three</p>
<p>(18:34) How you know they need it</p>
<p>(20:10) When the deal went wrong</p>
<p>(22:27) Feedback after wins and losses</p>
<p>(23:20) Earn the right to ask up</p>
<p>(24:25) Exit when there is no path</p>
<p>(26:45) Twenty percent for business development</p>
<p>(28:50) How a fifteen-year person starts</p>
<p>(30:17) Face to face still matters</p>
<p>(31:19) Volunteer, do not just attend</p>
<p>(32:35) Advice for introverts</p>
<p>(35:45) What he would tell himself then</p>
<p>(37:54) Keep the fit warm when it is not now</p>
<p>(39:32) How to reach Bruce</p>
<p>(40:50) Presented by BD4</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Bruce is a partner in TechCXO's revenue growth practice.</p>
<p>Email: bruce.kopkin@techcxo.com</p>
<p> https://www.techcxo.com/partners/bruce-kopkin/</p>
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      <title>John Yates on Becoming Good at Business Development When It's Not Natural</title>
      <description>You don't have to be a scratch golfer. John Yates isn't. He's a partner at Gunderson Dettmer who started by tagging along with his sister Jean in Palo Alto, then giving a Comdex talk in the dark because he did not want anyone to see him. The guy in that room sent a purple check. Follow the show. Learn more at bd4pros.com.

0:00 A marathon, not a sprint
0:26 John Yates
1:32 His sister was the Sherpa
3:44 Southeastern Software Association
4:52 Lights off at Comdex
5:32 A purple check
7:06 Tear out the magazine ads
8:09 Dictating on the drive
10:51 LinkedIn as a column
13:43 Ask smart questions
16:26 Sticky, not a vendor
19:19 A PS, not a trick
23:21 High, medium, low
25:28 I'm not buying
27:30 Play their words back
29:05 Turn the work away
33:49 Build a system that helps
36:01 Presented by BD4</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2026 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Gregg Bedol</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>You don't have to be a scratch golfer. John Yates isn't. He's a partner at Gunderson Dettmer who started by tagging along with his sister Jean in Palo Alto, then giving a Comdex talk in the dark because he did not want anyone to see him. The guy in that room sent a purple check. Follow the show. Learn more at bd4pros.com.

0:00 A marathon, not a sprint
0:26 John Yates
1:32 His sister was the Sherpa
3:44 Southeastern Software Association
4:52 Lights off at Comdex
5:32 A purple check
7:06 Tear out the magazine ads
8:09 Dictating on the drive
10:51 LinkedIn as a column
13:43 Ask smart questions
16:26 Sticky, not a vendor
19:19 A PS, not a trick
23:21 High, medium, low
25:28 I'm not buying
27:30 Play their words back
29:05 Turn the work away
33:49 Build a system that helps
36:01 Presented by BD4</itunes:summary>
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0:00 A marathon, not a sprint
0:26 John Yates
1:32 His sister was the Sherpa
3:44 Southeastern Software Association
4:52 Lights off at Comdex
5:32 A purple check
7:06 Tear out the magazine ads
8:09 Dictating on the drive
10:51 LinkedIn as a column
13:43 Ask smart questions
16:26 Sticky, not a vendor
19:19 A PS, not a trick
23:21 High, medium, low
25:28 I'm not buying
27:30 Play their words back
29:05 Turn the work away
33:49 Build a system that helps
36:01 Presented by BD4
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Learn more at https://bd4pros.com

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1:15 Championship sailing
2:58 Nashoba Learning Group
7:34 Put the client first
12:40 How the work emerges
16:16 Krugerrands in the loafers
21:03 A call, a card, a letter a day
23:11 Jazz, not a classical concert
27:50 Too many cooks
31:34 The first push-up
34:07 A seed in the driveway
36:46 Don't wait for the perfect note
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Learn more at https://bd4pros.com

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1:15 Championship sailing
2:58 Nashoba Learning Group
7:34 Put the client first
12:40 How the work emerges
16:16 Krugerrands in the loafers
21:03 A call, a card, a letter a day
23:11 Jazz, not a classical concert
27:50 Too many cooks
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34:07 A seed in the driveway
36:46 Don't wait for the perfect note
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Learn more at https://bd4pros.com

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  He stayed in touch with one CEO for years, then finally sat down with him at breakfast.

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  He names how hard this is when you bill hours in law or accounting.

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  Gregg looks up at the end of a ten or twelve month project with no pipeline.

  He stayed in touch with one CEO for years, then finally sat down with him at breakfast.

  He talks about listening, staying top of mind, and not walking in to pitch.

  He names how hard this is when you bill hours in law or accounting.

  He closes on why BD4 exists, and the ask to follow and share.




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