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    <description>DriveThru HR serves up quick and insightful conversations on the latest trends, challenges, and innovations in Human Resources. With a focus on real-world HR issues, each episode delivers practical advice and expert perspectives to help professionals navigate the evolving workplace landscape. Fast, focused and forward-thinking. Since 2010.</description>
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      <title>Transforming Workplace Mental Health</title>
      <description>In this episode of Drive Thru HR, Michael VanDervort and Robin Schooling chat with Steven Sokoler, founder of Journey to discuss the critical importance of mental health in the workplace. 

We explore the evolution of Employee Assistance Programs (EAPs) from reactive to proactive approaches, emphasizing the need for early intervention and support. 

Steven shares insights on how Journey utilizes data and technology to enhance employee engagement and improve mental health outcomes, and the conversation highlights the essential role of managers in fostering a supportive environment as well as the business case for prioritizing mental health initiatives.</description>
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      <itunes:title>Transforming Workplace Mental Health</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:episode>1686</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode of Drive Thru HR, Michael VanDervort and Robin Schooling engage with ⁠Steven Sokoler⁠, founder of ⁠Journey⁠ to discuss the critical importance of mental health in the workplace. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode of Drive Thru HR, Michael VanDervort and Robin Schooling chat with Steven Sokoler, founder of Journey to discuss the critical importance of mental health in the workplace. 

We explore the evolution of Employee Assistance Programs (EAPs) from reactive to proactive approaches, emphasizing the need for early intervention and support. 

Steven shares insights on how Journey utilizes data and technology to enhance employee engagement and improve mental health outcomes, and the conversation highlights the essential role of managers in fostering a supportive environment as well as the business case for prioritizing mental health initiatives.</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Drive Thru HR, Michael VanDervort and Robin Schooling chat with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephensokoler/">Steven Sokoler</a>, founder of <a href="https://journey.live/,">Journey</a> to discuss the critical importance of mental health in the workplace. </p>
<p>We explore the evolution of Employee Assistance Programs (EAPs) from reactive to proactive approaches, emphasizing the need for early intervention and support. </p>
<p>Steven shares insights on how Journey utilizes data and technology to enhance employee engagement and improve mental health outcomes, and the conversation highlights the essential role of managers in fostering a supportive environment as well as the business case for prioritizing mental health initiatives.</p>
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      <title>The Human Side of Transformation: Catalysts, AI, and Keeping People at the Center</title>
      <description>What does ethnography have to do with your AI rollout? More
than you'd think.

  Tracey Lovejoy, founder of Catalyst Constellations and a
leadership development consultant with roots in anthropology, joins Michael VanDervort on Drive Thru HR for a wide-ranging conversation on change, the rare people who actually drive it, and why your biggest AI implementation risk isn't the technology but rather  the humans you forgot to bring along.



*** 

Tracey Lovejoy is the founder of Catalyst Constellations, a leadership development consultancy that specializes in the human side of transformation. With a background in anthropology and years of research in high tech, Tracey has spent her career studying the rare people who can't stop themselves from making positive change, and building programs that help organizations identify, develop, and leverage them. She is the author of Move Fast, Break Shit, Burn Out: The Catalyst Guide to Working Well.

Resources and References Mentioned:


•	Move Fast, Break Shit, Burn Out by Tracey Lovejoy and Shannon Lucas

•	EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) by Gino Wickman

•	The Leader-Shift Playbook by Phil Wilson (LRI Consulting Services)

•	The Approachability Playbook by Phil Wilson

•	McKinsey research on the 10-20-70 framework

•	Walmart's company-wide AI training initiative</description>
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      <itunes:title>The Human Side of Transformation: Catalysts, AI, and Keeping People at the Center</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>17</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1687</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>What does ethnography have to do with your AI rollout? More
than you'd think.

  Tracey Lovejoy, founder of Catalyst Constellations and a
leadership development consultant with roots in anthropology, joins Michael VanDervort on Drive Thru HR for a wide-ranging conversation on change, the rare people who actually drive it, and why your biggest AI implementation risk isn't the technology but rather  the humans you forgot to bring along.



*** 

Tracey Lovejoy is the founder of Catalyst Constellations, a leadership development consultancy that specializes in the human side of transformation. With a background in anthropology and years of research in high tech, Tracey has spent her career studying the rare people who can't stop themselves from making positive change, and building programs that help organizations identify, develop, and leverage them. She is the author of Move Fast, Break Shit, Burn Out: The Catalyst Guide to Working Well.

Resources and References Mentioned:


•	Move Fast, Break Shit, Burn Out by Tracey Lovejoy and Shannon Lucas

•	EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) by Gino Wickman

•	The Leader-Shift Playbook by Phil Wilson (LRI Consulting Services)

•	The Approachability Playbook by Phil Wilson

•	McKinsey research on the 10-20-70 framework

•	Walmart's company-wide AI training initiative</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What does ethnography have to do with your AI rollout? More
than you'd think.</p>
<p>  <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/lovejoytracey/">Tracey Lovejoy</a>, founder of Catalyst Constellations and a
leadership development consultant with roots in anthropology, joins Michael VanDervort on Drive Thru HR for a wide-ranging conversation on change, the rare people who actually drive it, and why your biggest AI implementation risk isn't the technology but rather  the humans you forgot to bring along.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>*** </strong></p>
<p><strong>Tracey Lovejoy</strong> is the founder of Catalyst Constellations, a leadership development consultancy that specializes in the human side of transformation. With a background in anthropology and years of research in high tech, Tracey has spent her career studying the rare people who can't stop themselves from making positive change, and building programs that help organizations identify, develop, and leverage them. She is the author of <em>Move Fast, Break Shit, Burn Out: The Catalyst Guide to Working Well</em>.</p>
<p><strong>Resources and References Mentioned:</strong></p>
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•	<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Move-Fast-Break-Shit-Burn-ebook/dp/B08JNWBQ9Y">Move Fast, Break Shit, Burn Out</a> by Tracey Lovejoy and Shannon Lucas</ul>
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•	EOS (Entrepreneurial Operating System) by Gino Wickman</ul>
<ul>
•	<a href="https://yourleadershift.com/">The Leader-Shift Playbook</a> by Phil Wilson (LRI Consulting Services)</ul>
<ul>
•	<a href="https://approachableleadership.com/buy-approachability-playbook/">The Approachability Playbook</a> by Phil Wilson</ul>
<ul>
•	McKinsey research on the 10-20-70 framework</ul>
<ul>
•	<a href="https://www.inc.com/minda-zetlin/walmart-offers-free-ai-training-to-1-6-million-employees-its-a-genius-move/91311671">Walmart's company-wide AI training initiative</a>
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      <title>You're the Smartest Person in the Room: Conference Season Edition</title>
      <description>Conference season is upon us, and Drive Thru HR has one message before you go: remember that YOU are the smartest person in the room. 

In this Snackable HR episode, Robin unpacks the predictable agenda topics, the overhyped thought leaders, and why your real-world experience outweighs any keynote. Go forth and learn, connect and have fun -  just don't check your judgment at the door.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2026 18:14:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>You're the Smartest Person in the Room: Conference Season Edition</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>17</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1685</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Conference season is upon us, and Drive Thru HR has one message before you go: remember that YOU are the smartest person in the room. 

In this Snackable HR episode, Robin unpacks the predictable agenda topics, the overhyped thought leaders, and why your real-world experience outweighs any keynote. Go forth and learn, connect and have fun -  just don't check your judgment at the door.</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Conference season is upon us, and <a href="https://drivethruhr.online/">Drive Thru HR</a> has one message before you go: remember that YOU are the smartest person in the room. </p>
<p>In this Snackable HR episode, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/robinschooling/">Robin</a> unpacks the predictable agenda topics, the overhyped thought leaders, and why your real-world experience outweighs <strong>any</strong> keynote. Go forth and learn, connect and have fun -  just don't check your judgment at the door.</p>]]>
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      <title>AI Meets Empathy: Enhancing Frontline Management</title>
      <description>Summary

In this episode of Drive, host Michael VanDervort welcomes Justin Lassard-Wajcer, a neuroscientist and CEO of Nurau, an AI-driven platform/app that enhances workplace decision-making for frontline managers. Justin shares his journey from neuroscience to applying cognitive science in real-world work environments, emphasizing the importance of bridging the gap between theory and practice. He discusses how Nurau aims to improve employee relations and safety by providing managers with real-time support, allowing them to make informed decisions during shifts rather than after the fact.



The conversation delves into the challenges faced by frontline managers, particularly in high-stress industries like retail and logistics. Justin explains how Nurau's technology helps managers log incidents and receive guidance on handling various situations, thereby reducing cognitive load and improving overall workplace dynamics. 

The episode also touches on the ethical considerations of AI in HR, including the importance of maintaining human judgment and empathy in decision-making processes. Justin concludes by highlighting Nurau's potential to transform the employee experience and enhance managerial effectiveness.



Takeaways


  Bridging the gap between neuroscience and workplace application is crucial.

  AI should assist, not replace human judgment in HR decisions.

  Frontline managers are often under-supported and overburdened with cognitive load.

  Real-time decision-making tools can significantly improve workplace dynamics.

  Understanding near misses is key to preventing workplace incidents.


Chapters



00:00 Introduction to Drive Through HR

00:36 Meet Justin Lassard-Wacjer: Neuroscience in the Workplace

05:36 Understanding Neuro: AI for Frontline Managers

10:15 The Role of AI in Decision-Making

18:35 Adoption of AI Tools in Management

21:25 Identifying Patterns and Trends in Workplace Safety

24:46 The Importance of Frontline Managers

28:34 Addressing AI Bias and Ethical Considerations

31:31 Conclusion and How to Connect with Justin</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2026 19:19:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:season>17</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1684</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Summary

In this episode of Drive, host Michael VanDervort welcomes Justin Lassard-Wajcer, a neuroscientist and CEO of Nurau, an AI-driven platform/app that enhances workplace decision-making for frontline managers. Justin shares his journey from neuroscience to applying cognitive science in real-world work environments, emphasizing the importance of bridging the gap between theory and practice. He discusses how Nurau aims to improve employee relations and safety by providing managers with real-time support, allowing them to make informed decisions during shifts rather than after the fact.



The conversation delves into the challenges faced by frontline managers, particularly in high-stress industries like retail and logistics. Justin explains how Nurau's technology helps managers log incidents and receive guidance on handling various situations, thereby reducing cognitive load and improving overall workplace dynamics. 

The episode also touches on the ethical considerations of AI in HR, including the importance of maintaining human judgment and empathy in decision-making processes. Justin concludes by highlighting Nurau's potential to transform the employee experience and enhance managerial effectiveness.



Takeaways


  Bridging the gap between neuroscience and workplace application is crucial.

  AI should assist, not replace human judgment in HR decisions.

  Frontline managers are often under-supported and overburdened with cognitive load.

  Real-time decision-making tools can significantly improve workplace dynamics.

  Understanding near misses is key to preventing workplace incidents.


Chapters



00:00 Introduction to Drive Through HR

00:36 Meet Justin Lassard-Wacjer: Neuroscience in the Workplace

05:36 Understanding Neuro: AI for Frontline Managers

10:15 The Role of AI in Decision-Making

18:35 Adoption of AI Tools in Management

21:25 Identifying Patterns and Trends in Workplace Safety

24:46 The Importance of Frontline Managers

28:34 Addressing AI Bias and Ethical Considerations

31:31 Conclusion and How to Connect with Justin</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Summary</p>
<p>In this episode of Drive, host Michael VanDervort welcomes <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-lessard-wajcer/">Justin Lassard-Wajcer,</a> a neuroscientist and CEO of <a href="https://www.nurau.com/">Nurau</a>, an AI-driven platform/app that enhances workplace decision-making for frontline managers. Justin shares his journey from neuroscience to applying cognitive science in real-world work environments, emphasizing the importance of bridging the gap between theory and practice. He discusses how Nurau aims to improve employee relations and safety by providing managers with real-time support, allowing them to make informed decisions during shifts rather than after the fact.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>The conversation delves into the challenges faced by frontline managers, particularly in high-stress industries like retail and logistics. Justin explains how Nurau's technology helps managers log incidents and receive guidance on handling various situations, thereby reducing cognitive load and improving overall workplace dynamics. </p>
<p>The episode also touches on the ethical considerations of AI in HR, including the importance of maintaining human judgment and empathy in decision-making processes. Justin concludes by highlighting Nurau's potential to transform the employee experience and enhance managerial effectiveness.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Takeaways</p>
<ul>
  <li>Bridging the gap between neuroscience and workplace application is crucial.</li>
  <li>AI should assist, not replace human judgment in HR decisions.</li>
  <li>Frontline managers are often under-supported and overburdened with cognitive load.</li>
  <li>Real-time decision-making tools can significantly improve workplace dynamics.</li>
  <li>Understanding near misses is key to preventing workplace incidents.</li>
</ul>
<p>Chapters</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>00:00 Introduction to Drive Through HR</p>
<p>00:36 Meet Justin Lassard-Wacjer: Neuroscience in the Workplace</p>
<p>05:36 Understanding Neuro: AI for Frontline Managers</p>
<p>10:15 The Role of AI in Decision-Making</p>
<p>18:35 Adoption of AI Tools in Management</p>
<p>21:25 Identifying Patterns and Trends in Workplace Safety</p>
<p>24:46 The Importance of Frontline Managers</p>
<p>28:34 Addressing AI Bias and Ethical Considerations</p>
<p>31:31 Conclusion and How to Connect with Justin</p>]]>
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      <title>The Intentional Executive w/ Patrick Farran </title>
      <description>In this episode of Drive Thru HR, we speak with Patrick Farran, executive advisor and co-founder/CEO of Ad Lucem Group, about purpose-driven
leadership and his new book "The Intentional Executive." 

Patrick, Michael and Robin discuss how effective leaders stay grounded in purpose by ensuring their values show up in their toughest decisions, budgets, and calendars (not just on company walls!!) and Patrick shares real-world examples of leaders who held firm to their principles even at significant cost. The conversation covers practical strategies for leadership transformation, including the importance of resisting the urge to be "the answer person," structuring time intentionally around strategic relationships, and starting meetings with purpose-centered
connection. 

Patrick's book, co-authored with Melissa Norcross, distills decades of practitioner experience into a playbook designed to help leaders navigate disruption and lead differently than everyone else.

Find it here.


 </description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2026 19:45:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1683</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode of Drive Thru HR, we speak with Patrick Farran, executive advisor and co-founder/CEO of Ad Lucem Group, about purpose-driven
leadership and his new book "The Intentional Executive." 

Patrick, Michael and Robin discuss how effective leaders stay grounded in purpose by ensuring their values show up in their toughest decisions, budgets, and calendars (not just on company walls!!) and Patrick shares real-world examples of leaders who held firm to their principles even at significant cost. The conversation covers practical strategies for leadership transformation, including the importance of resisting the urge to be "the answer person," structuring time intentionally around strategic relationships, and starting meetings with purpose-centered
connection. 

Patrick's book, co-authored with Melissa Norcross, distills decades of practitioner experience into a playbook designed to help leaders navigate disruption and lead differently than everyone else.

Find it here.


 </itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Drive Thru HR, we speak with Patrick Farran, executive advisor and co-founder/CEO of <a href="https://adlucemgroup.com/">Ad Lucem Group,</a> about purpose-driven
leadership and his new book <a href="https://adlucemgroup.com/the-intentional-executive-book/">"The Intentional Executive."</a> </p>
<p>Patrick, Michael and Robin discuss how effective leaders stay grounded in purpose by ensuring their values show up in their toughest decisions, budgets, and calendars (not just on company walls!!) and Patrick shares real-world examples of leaders who held firm to their principles even at significant cost. The conversation covers practical strategies for leadership transformation, including the importance of resisting the urge to be "the answer person," structuring time intentionally around strategic relationships, and starting meetings with purpose-centered
connection. </p>
<p>Patrick's book, co-authored with Melissa Norcross, distills decades of practitioner experience into a playbook designed to help leaders navigate disruption and lead differently than everyone else.</p>
<p>Find it <a href="https://adlucemgroup.com/the-intentional-executive-book/">here.</a>
</p>
<p> </p>
<p>




















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      <title>The Legal Landscape of HR 2026 with Jon Hyman</title>
      <description>Episode Summary:

In this episode of DriveThruHR, hosts Michael VanDervort and Robin  Schooling welcome back Jon Hyman, an employment and labor law practitioner with nearly 30 years of experience. The conversation kicks off with a light-hearted introduction, in which Jon shares insights into his law practice, particularly his work with small- and mid-sized businesses and his niche representation of craft breweries. 

As the discussion progresses, the trio delves into the evolving landscape of HR and employment law under the new administration, focusing on the implications of recent executive orders and the changing definitions surrounding discrimination and diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). 

Jon emphasizes the importance of filtering out the noise from the EEOC and maintaining established legal practices, regardless of political shifts.

The conversation then shifts to workplace retaliation, where John provides practical advice for employers on navigating claims and maintaining proper documentation. 

We also touch on the role of AI in HR, discussing its potential benefits and challenges, and the necessity for businesses to adapt their policies to keep pace with technological advancements. 

The episode wraps up with a discussion of the current state of the National Labor Relations Board and the implications of its political composition for labor relations, highlighting the need for stability in workplace policies amid ongoing changes.

Takeaways:


  The law hasn't changed; the practices that were legal before are still legal.

  Focus on the damage to the business for social media posts; if it doesn't harm, let it go.

  Document everything contemporaneously; it's crucial for defending claims.

  AI is still in its alpha phase; we need to adapt our policies.

  NLRB: A functioning agency is better than no agency at all.


00:00Introduction to John Hyman

01:02John's Law Practice and Brewery Representation

05:40Navigating HR Under the New Administration

12:44Understanding Retaliation in the Workplace

18:37The Role of AI in HR

25:54Current State of Labor Relations Board</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2026 19:16:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Legal Landscape of HR 2026</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1682</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Labor Law Insights from Jon Hyman</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Episode Summary:

In this episode of DriveThruHR, hosts Michael VanDervort and Robin  Schooling welcome back Jon Hyman, an employment and labor law practitioner with nearly 30 years of experience. The conversation kicks off with a light-hearted introduction, in which Jon shares insights into his law practice, particularly his work with small- and mid-sized businesses and his niche representation of craft breweries. 

As the discussion progresses, the trio delves into the evolving landscape of HR and employment law under the new administration, focusing on the implications of recent executive orders and the changing definitions surrounding discrimination and diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). 

Jon emphasizes the importance of filtering out the noise from the EEOC and maintaining established legal practices, regardless of political shifts.

The conversation then shifts to workplace retaliation, where John provides practical advice for employers on navigating claims and maintaining proper documentation. 

We also touch on the role of AI in HR, discussing its potential benefits and challenges, and the necessity for businesses to adapt their policies to keep pace with technological advancements. 

The episode wraps up with a discussion of the current state of the National Labor Relations Board and the implications of its political composition for labor relations, highlighting the need for stability in workplace policies amid ongoing changes.

Takeaways:


  The law hasn't changed; the practices that were legal before are still legal.

  Focus on the damage to the business for social media posts; if it doesn't harm, let it go.

  Document everything contemporaneously; it's crucial for defending claims.

  AI is still in its alpha phase; we need to adapt our policies.

  NLRB: A functioning agency is better than no agency at all.


00:00Introduction to John Hyman

01:02John's Law Practice and Brewery Representation

05:40Navigating HR Under the New Administration

12:44Understanding Retaliation in the Workplace

18:37The Role of AI in HR

25:54Current State of Labor Relations Board</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>Episode Summary:</strong></p>
<p>In this episode of DriveThruHR, hosts Michael VanDervort and Robin  Schooling welcome back <a href="https://www.wickenslaw.com/team-member/jonathan-t-hyman-esq/">Jon Hyman</a>, an employment and labor law practitioner with nearly 30 years of experience. The conversation kicks off with a light-hearted introduction, in which Jon shares insights into his law practice, particularly his work with small- and mid-sized businesses and his niche representation of craft breweries. </p>
<p>As the discussion progresses, the trio delves into the evolving landscape of HR and employment law under the new administration, focusing on the implications of recent executive orders and the changing definitions surrounding discrimination and diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). </p>
<p>Jon emphasizes the importance of filtering out the noise from the EEOC and maintaining established legal practices, regardless of political shifts.</p>
<p>The conversation then shifts to workplace retaliation, where John provides practical advice for employers on navigating claims and maintaining proper documentation. </p>
<p>We also touch on the role of AI in HR, discussing its potential benefits and challenges, and the necessity for businesses to adapt their policies to keep pace with technological advancements. </p>
<p>The episode wraps up with a discussion of the current state of the National Labor Relations Board and the implications of its political composition for labor relations, highlighting the need for stability in workplace policies amid ongoing changes.</p>
<p><strong>Takeaways:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>The law hasn't changed; the practices that were legal before are still legal.</li>
  <li>Focus on the damage to the business for social media posts; if it doesn't harm, let it go.</li>
  <li>Document everything contemporaneously; it's crucial for defending claims.</li>
  <li>AI is still in its alpha phase; we need to adapt our policies.</li>
  <li>NLRB: A functioning agency is better than no agency at all.</li>
</ul>
<p>00:00Introduction to John Hyman</p>
<p>01:02John's Law Practice and Brewery Representation</p>
<p>05:40Navigating HR Under the New Administration</p>
<p>12:44Understanding Retaliation in the Workplace</p>
<p>18:37The Role of AI in HR</p>
<p>25:54Current State of Labor Relations Board

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      <title>Employee Relations in 2026:  Risks, Reality, The Road Ahead </title>
      <description>In this episode of DriveThruHR, hosts Robin Schooling and Michael VanDervort speak with Deb Muller, founder and CEO of HR Acuity, about the evolving landscape of employee relations as we approach 2026. 

The conversation covers key trends in employee relations, the impact of AI on HR functions, the importance of trust and risk management, and the mental health challenges faced by employee relations teams.

Deb emphasizes the need for organizations to adapt to changing workplace dynamics, implement effective governance around AI, and prioritize employee well-being. The episode concludes with practical advice for smaller organizations and insights into the future of HR practices. 

Join the free empowER community here.   

Employee Relations resources here. 

Takeaways


  Employee relations is evolving with new challenges and complexities.

  Trust is essential for mitigating risk in organizations.

  AI is becoming an integral part of HR processes.

  Smaller organizations can implement fundamental ER practices without large teams.

  Mental health and burnout are significant concerns for ER teams.

  Data-driven approaches can help measure trust and risk effectively.

  Organizations need to create safe channels for employee feedback.

  The complexity of cases is increasing, requiring more strategic handling.

  Governance around AI is crucial for responsible implementation in HR.

  Investing in employee relations can lead to better organizational outcomes.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2025 16:14:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1681</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode of DriveThruHR, hosts Robin Schooling and Michael VanDervort speak with Deb Muller, founder and CEO of HR Acuity, about the evolving landscape of employee relations as we approach 2026. 

The conversation covers key trends in employee relations, the impact of AI on HR functions, the importance of trust and risk management, and the mental health challenges faced by employee relations teams.

Deb emphasizes the need for organizations to adapt to changing workplace dynamics, implement effective governance around AI, and prioritize employee well-being. The episode concludes with practical advice for smaller organizations and insights into the future of HR practices. 

Join the free empowER community here.   

Employee Relations resources here. 

Takeaways


  Employee relations is evolving with new challenges and complexities.

  Trust is essential for mitigating risk in organizations.

  AI is becoming an integral part of HR processes.

  Smaller organizations can implement fundamental ER practices without large teams.

  Mental health and burnout are significant concerns for ER teams.

  Data-driven approaches can help measure trust and risk effectively.

  Organizations need to create safe channels for employee feedback.

  The complexity of cases is increasing, requiring more strategic handling.

  Governance around AI is crucial for responsible implementation in HR.

  Investing in employee relations can lead to better organizational outcomes.</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of DriveThruHR, hosts Robin Schooling and Michael VanDervort speak with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/debbiemuller/">Deb Muller</a>, founder and CEO of <a href="https://www.hracuity.com/">HR Acuity</a>, about the evolving landscape of employee relations as we approach 2026. </p>
<p>The conversation covers key trends in employee relations, the impact of AI on HR functions, the importance of trust and risk management, and the mental health challenges faced by employee relations teams.</p>
<p>Deb emphasizes the need for organizations to adapt to changing workplace dynamics, implement effective governance around AI, and prioritize employee well-being. The episode concludes with practical advice for smaller organizations and insights into the future of HR practices. </p>
<p>Join the free empowER community <a href="https://www.hracuity.com/empower-community/">here</a>.   </p>
<p>Employee Relations resources <a href="https://www.hracuity.com/resources/">here</a>. </p>
<p><strong>Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>Employee relations is evolving with new challenges and complexities.</li>
  <li>Trust is essential for mitigating risk in organizations.</li>
  <li>AI is becoming an integral part of HR processes.</li>
  <li>Smaller organizations can implement fundamental ER practices without large teams.</li>
  <li>Mental health and burnout are significant concerns for ER teams.</li>
  <li>Data-driven approaches can help measure trust and risk effectively.</li>
  <li>Organizations need to create safe channels for employee feedback.</li>
  <li>The complexity of cases is increasing, requiring more strategic handling.</li>
  <li>Governance around AI is crucial for responsible implementation in HR.</li>
  <li>Investing in employee relations can lead to better organizational outcomes.</li>
</ul>
<p>

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      <title>The Tryptophan Myth: Why People Are REALLY Exhausted at Work</title>
      <description>In this “Snackable HR” episode, Robin unpacks the real reason your team is running on empty before December even starts - and it's not the tryptophan. 

She examines how eleven months of "do more with less," unmet promises, and relentless pushing has left people exhausted, disengaged, and quietly checking out. This is a call to stop blaming something “mysterious”
and instead to start seeing people as humans who need more than a long weekend to recover from a year like this one.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2025 17:47:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Tryptophan Myth: Why People Are REALLY Exhausted at Work</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1679</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this “Snackable HR” episode, Robin unpacks the real reason your team is running on empty before December even starts - and it's not the tryptophan. 

She examines how eleven months of "do more with less," unmet promises, and relentless pushing has left people exhausted, disengaged, and quietly checking out. This is a call to stop blaming something “mysterious”
and instead to start seeing people as humans who need more than a long weekend to recover from a year like this one.</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this “Snackable HR” episode, <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/robinschooling/">Robin</a> unpacks the real reason your team is running on empty before December even starts - and it's not the tryptophan. </p>
<p>She examines how eleven months of "do more with less," unmet promises, and relentless pushing has left people exhausted, disengaged, and quietly checking out. This is a call to stop blaming something “mysterious”
and instead to start seeing people as humans who need more than a long weekend to recover from a year like this one.</p>
<p>




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      <title>AI's Impact on HR Strategy - Jessie Roberts, Nextdoor</title>
      <description>Does AI free up HR to focus on strategy?

Host Michael VanDervort welcomes Jessie Roberts, Head of People Business Partners at Nextdoor, for a conversation about the intersection of HR and technology.

Together, they examine how artificial intelligence is transforming the HR landscape, questioning whether it truly frees HR professionals to focus on strategic work or merely replaces one set of administrative tasks with another. 

The discussion highlights AI’s potential to deliver real-time analytics and deeper insights, enhancing decision-making and strengthening the strategic role of HR teams.

Takeaways


  AI can make HR more strategic if used correctly.

  Access to real-time analytics is a game-changer for HR.

  Having an HR analytics person can significantly improve data-driven decision-making.

  AI can help HR teams focus on more strategic initiatives.

  The right use of technology can alleviate administrative burdens.

  Real-time insights can lead to better HR strategies.

  AI acts as a supportive teammate in HR functions.

  Data-driven HR practices can enhance overall effectiveness.

  The integration of analytics in HR is essential for modern practices.

  AI tools should be leveraged to maximize HR potential.


Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Drive Through HR and Guest Introduction

00:33 Final Thoughts and Conclusion</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2025 16:35:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>AI's Impact on HR Strategy</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1678</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Does AI free up HR to focus on strategy?</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Does AI free up HR to focus on strategy?

Host Michael VanDervort welcomes Jessie Roberts, Head of People Business Partners at Nextdoor, for a conversation about the intersection of HR and technology.

Together, they examine how artificial intelligence is transforming the HR landscape, questioning whether it truly frees HR professionals to focus on strategic work or merely replaces one set of administrative tasks with another. 

The discussion highlights AI’s potential to deliver real-time analytics and deeper insights, enhancing decision-making and strengthening the strategic role of HR teams.

Takeaways


  AI can make HR more strategic if used correctly.

  Access to real-time analytics is a game-changer for HR.

  Having an HR analytics person can significantly improve data-driven decision-making.

  AI can help HR teams focus on more strategic initiatives.

  The right use of technology can alleviate administrative burdens.

  Real-time insights can lead to better HR strategies.

  AI acts as a supportive teammate in HR functions.

  Data-driven HR practices can enhance overall effectiveness.

  The integration of analytics in HR is essential for modern practices.

  AI tools should be leveraged to maximize HR potential.


Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Drive Through HR and Guest Introduction

00:33 Final Thoughts and Conclusion</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p><em>Does AI free up HR to focus on strategy?</em>

Host Michael VanDervort welcomes Jessie Roberts, Head of People Business Partners at Nextdoor, for a conversation about the intersection of HR and technology.</p>
<p>Together, they examine how artificial intelligence is transforming the HR landscape, questioning whether it truly frees HR professionals to focus on strategic work or merely replaces one set of administrative tasks with another. </p>
<p>The discussion highlights AI’s potential to deliver real-time analytics and deeper insights, enhancing decision-making and strengthening the strategic role of HR teams.</p>
<p><strong>Takeaways</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>AI can make HR more strategic if used correctly.</li>
  <li>Access to real-time analytics is a game-changer for HR.</li>
  <li>Having an HR analytics person can significantly improve data-driven decision-making.</li>
  <li>AI can help HR teams focus on more strategic initiatives.</li>
  <li>The right use of technology can alleviate administrative burdens.</li>
  <li>Real-time insights can lead to better HR strategies.</li>
  <li>AI acts as a supportive teammate in HR functions.</li>
  <li>Data-driven HR practices can enhance overall effectiveness.</li>
  <li>The integration of analytics in HR is essential for modern practices.</li>
  <li>AI tools should be leveraged to maximize HR potential.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Chapters</strong></p>
<p>00:00 Introduction to Drive Through HR and Guest Introduction</p>
<p>00:33 Final Thoughts and Conclusion</p>
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      <title>Courage at Work: Kristen Kavanaugh on DEI, Agency, and Leadership</title>
      <description>On this episode of Drive Thru HR, Robin Schooling talks with Kristen Kavanaugh, co-author of Courage Over Fear and co-founder of The Agency Initiative. 

 

Kristen shares her journey from the Marine Corps to HR leadership at Tesla, and how those experiences shaped her commitment to authenticity, agency, and growth. The conversation explores the book’s core ideas: courage as small but powerful 5% shifts, the “Agency Loop” framework, and finding ways to lead with values even in polarized or high-pressure environments. Kristen also reflects on the challenges and future of DEI, urging
leaders to step into courageous action within their spheres of influence. 



The episode leaves listeners with practical inspiration for building resilience,
authenticity, and human connection at work</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2025 14:19:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Courage at Work: Kristen Kavanaugh on DEI, Agency, and Leadership</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1677</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>On this episode of Drive Thru HR, Robin Schooling talks with Kristen Kavanaugh, co-author of Courage Over Fear and co-founder of The Agency Initiative. 

 

Kristen shares her journey from the Marine Corps to HR leadership at Tesla, and how those experiences shaped her commitment to authenticity, agency, and growth. The conversation explores the book’s core ideas: courage as small but powerful 5% shifts, the “Agency Loop” framework, and finding ways to lead with values even in polarized or high-pressure environments. Kristen also reflects on the challenges and future of DEI, urging
leaders to step into courageous action within their spheres of influence. 



The episode leaves listeners with practical inspiration for building resilience,
authenticity, and human connection at work</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>On this episode of <em><strong>Drive Thru HR</strong></em>, Robin Schooling talks with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristenkavanaugh/">Kristen Kavanaugh</a>, co-author of <a href="https://www.courageoverfearbook.com/">Courage Over Fear</a> and co-founder of <a href="https://www.agency-initiative.com/">The Agency Initiative</a>. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Kristen shares her journey from the Marine Corps to HR leadership at Tesla, and how those experiences shaped her commitment to authenticity, agency, and growth. The conversation explores the book’s core ideas: courage as small but powerful 5% shifts, the “Agency Loop” framework, and finding ways to lead with values even in polarized or high-pressure environments. Kristen also reflects on the challenges and future of DEI, urging
leaders to step into courageous action within their spheres of influence. </p>
<p><br></p>
<p>The episode leaves listeners with practical inspiration for building resilience,
authenticity, and human connection at work</p>
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      <title>Jobs Report, Starbucks Optics + HR’s Reinvention </title>
      <description>In this host-only episode of Drive Thru HR, Robin Schooling and Michael VanDervort dig into the latest 2025 U.S. jobs report that reveals virtually zero net job growth and the ripple effects of economic uncertainty on talent strategy.  They unpack the simmering Starbucks union impasse and the optics of leadership’s return-to-office workaround as a lens on culture and credibility. 

And then the conversation pivots to a forward-looking challenge for HR pros: transform yourself, stay relevant amid tech/AI shifts and consolidation, and don’t let disruption become stagnation.  

The episode is topped off with a  celebratory nod to Humareso’s 13th anniversary!</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2025 17:26:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Jobs Report, Starbucks Optics + HR’s Reinvention </itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1676</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this host-only episode of Drive Thru HR, Robin Schooling and Michael VanDervort dig into the latest 2025 U.S. jobs report that reveals virtually zero net job growth and the ripple effects of economic uncertainty on talent strategy.  They unpack the simmering Starbucks union impasse and the optics of leadership’s return-to-office workaround as a lens on culture and credibility. 

And then the conversation pivots to a forward-looking challenge for HR pros: transform yourself, stay relevant amid tech/AI shifts and consolidation, and don’t let disruption become stagnation.  

The episode is topped off with a  celebratory nod to Humareso’s 13th anniversary!</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this host-only episode of <em>Drive Thru HR</em>, Robin Schooling and Michael VanDervort dig into the latest 2025 U.S. jobs report that reveals virtually zero net job growth and the ripple effects of economic uncertainty on talent strategy.  They unpack the simmering Starbucks union impasse and the optics of leadership’s return-to-office workaround as a lens on culture and credibility. </p>
<p>And then the conversation pivots to a forward-looking challenge for HR pros: transform yourself, stay relevant amid tech/AI shifts and consolidation, and don’t let disruption become stagnation.  </p>
<p>The episode is topped off with a  celebratory nod to <a href="https://humareso.com/">Humareso</a>’s 13th anniversary! </p>
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      <title>Unlocking Talent: Recruiting from Puerto Rico</title>
      <description>In this episode of Drive Thru HR, hosts Michael VanDervort and Robin Schooling welcome Clay Martin,  the owner of Isla Talent, who specializes in recruiting from Puerto Rico. 

Clay shares his unique journey from the Peace Corps to establishing a recruiting firm that addresses labor shortages in the U.S. by connecting employers with skilled workers from Puerto Rico. 

The conversation delves into the challenges of traditional visa programs, the benefits of hiring from Puerto Rico, and the importance of building trust and communication with both employers and employees. Clay emphasizes the human aspect of recruitment and the need for genuine engagement in the hiring process.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2025 19:56:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Unlocking Talent: Recruiting from Puerto Rico</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1675</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode of Drive Thru HR, hosts Michael VanDervort and Robin Schooling welcome Clay Martin,  the owner of Isla Talent, who specializes in recruiting from Puerto Rico. 

Clay shares his unique journey from the Peace Corps to establishing a recruiting firm that addresses labor shortages in the U.S. by connecting employers with skilled workers from Puerto Rico. 

The conversation delves into the challenges of traditional visa programs, the benefits of hiring from Puerto Rico, and the importance of building trust and communication with both employers and employees. Clay emphasizes the human aspect of recruitment and the need for genuine engagement in the hiring process.</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Drive Thru HR, hosts Michael VanDervort and Robin Schooling welcome <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/clay-martin-7788b179/,">Clay Martin</a>,  the owner of <a href="http://www.recruitingpuertorico.com/">Isla Talent</a>, who specializes in recruiting from Puerto Rico. </p>
<p>Clay shares his unique journey from the Peace Corps to establishing a recruiting firm that addresses labor shortages in the U.S. by connecting employers with skilled workers from Puerto Rico. </p>
<p>The conversation delves into the challenges of traditional visa programs, the benefits of hiring from Puerto Rico, and the importance of building trust and communication with both employers and employees. Clay emphasizes the human aspect of recruitment and the need for genuine engagement in the hiring process.</p>
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      <title>NLRB in Crisis: Labor Relatedly</title>
      <description>In this conversation, Michael VanDervort and John Hyman discuss various topics related to labor relations, the current crisis within the NLRB, and the implications of political actions on workplace rights. They examine the challenges faced by unions, the significance of employee rights, and the necessity of thoughtful responses to workplace threats. The discussion also touches on the political landscape in the U.S.




Takeaways


  The NLRB is currently facing an authority crisis due to a lack of quorum.

  Political gridlock is hindering the appointment of new board members.

  Employers must be cautious about how they regulate employee communications regarding union organizing.

  Workplace investigations into threats should be taken seriously and handled with care.

  Overreacting to potential workplace violence is often safer than underreacting.

  Political issues, such as transgender rights, are becoming increasingly relevant in workplace discussions.

  The current political climate is seen as performative and troubling by many.

  There is a growing concern about authoritarianism in the U.S. and its impact on democracy.

  The importance of compassion and empathy in discussions about workplace rights is emphasized.

  The conversation highlights the need for vigilance in protecting employee rights amidst political changes.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2025 18:01:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>NLRB in Crisis: Labor Relatedly</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1674</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this conversation, Michael VanDervort and John Hyman discuss various topics related to labor relations, the current crisis within the NLRB, and the implications of political actions on workplace rights. They examine the challenges faced by unions, the significance of employee rights, and the necessity of thoughtful responses to workplace threats. The discussion also touches on the political landscape in the U.S.




Takeaways


  The NLRB is currently facing an authority crisis due to a lack of quorum.

  Political gridlock is hindering the appointment of new board members.

  Employers must be cautious about how they regulate employee communications regarding union organizing.

  Workplace investigations into threats should be taken seriously and handled with care.

  Overreacting to potential workplace violence is often safer than underreacting.

  Political issues, such as transgender rights, are becoming increasingly relevant in workplace discussions.

  The current political climate is seen as performative and troubling by many.

  There is a growing concern about authoritarianism in the U.S. and its impact on democracy.

  The importance of compassion and empathy in discussions about workplace rights is emphasized.

  The conversation highlights the need for vigilance in protecting employee rights amidst political changes.</itunes:summary>
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<p><br></p>
<p>
Takeaways</p>
<ul>
  <li>The NLRB is currently facing an authority crisis due to a lack of quorum.</li>
  <li>Political gridlock is hindering the appointment of new board members.</li>
  <li>Employers must be cautious about how they regulate employee communications regarding union organizing.</li>
  <li>Workplace investigations into threats should be taken seriously and handled with care.</li>
  <li>Overreacting to potential workplace violence is often safer than underreacting.</li>
  <li>Political issues, such as transgender rights, are becoming increasingly relevant in workplace discussions.</li>
  <li>The current political climate is seen as performative and troubling by many.</li>
  <li>There is a growing concern about authoritarianism in the U.S. and its impact on democracy.</li>
  <li>The importance of compassion and empathy in discussions about workplace rights is emphasized.</li>
  <li>The conversation highlights the need for vigilance in protecting employee rights amidst political changes.</li>
</ul>
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      <title>Unlocking Potential: The Power of Durable Skills</title>
      <description>In this episode of DriveThruHR, Michael VanDervort and Robin Schooling engage with Caitlin MacGregor, CEO and co-founder of Plum, to discuss the importance of durable skills in the hiring process and organizational culture. 

Caitlin explains how durable skills, such as innovation and communication, are more predictive of job success than traditional skills. The conversation also covers the need for organizations to align their culture with strategy, the significance of cultural dexterity, and how companies can future-proof themselves in a rapidly changing world, particularly with the rise of AI.

*****

Caitlin MacGregor, CEO and Co-founder of Plum, is passionate about helping people reach their true potential. That’s why, after building two businesses for other people, she founded Plum – to help organizations fully leverage the human potential within their workforces. With Plum, business leaders gain access to vital talent data that aligns employees with roles where they’ll flourish, setting the stage for the entire business to thrive.

 </description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 24 May 2025 15:22:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Unlocking Potential: The Power of Durable Skills</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1673</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode of DriveThruHR, Michael VanDervort and Robin Schooling engage with Caitlin MacGregor, CEO and co-founder of Plum, to discuss the importance of durable skills in the hiring process and organizational culture. 

Caitlin explains how durable skills, such as innovation and communication, are more predictive of job success than traditional skills. The conversation also covers the need for organizations to align their culture with strategy, the significance of cultural dexterity, and how companies can future-proof themselves in a rapidly changing world, particularly with the rise of AI.

*****

Caitlin MacGregor, CEO and Co-founder of Plum, is passionate about helping people reach their true potential. That’s why, after building two businesses for other people, she founded Plum – to help organizations fully leverage the human potential within their workforces. With Plum, business leaders gain access to vital talent data that aligns employees with roles where they’ll flourish, setting the stage for the entire business to thrive.

 </itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of DriveThruHR, Michael VanDervort and Robin Schooling engage with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/caitlinmacgregor/">Caitlin MacGregor</a>, CEO and co-founder of <a href="https://plum.io">Plum</a>, to discuss the importance of durable skills in the hiring process and organizational culture. </p>
<p>Caitlin explains how durable skills, such as innovation and communication, are more predictive of job success than traditional skills. The conversation also covers the need for organizations to align their culture with strategy, the significance of cultural dexterity, and how companies can future-proof themselves in a rapidly changing world, particularly with the rise of AI.</p>
<p>*****</p>
<p>Caitlin MacGregor, CEO and Co-founder of <a href="https://www.plum.io/">Plum</a>, is passionate about helping people reach their true potential. That’s why, after building two businesses for other people, she founded Plum – to help organizations fully leverage the human potential within their workforces. With Plum, business leaders gain access to vital talent data that aligns employees with roles where they’ll flourish, setting the stage for the entire business to thrive.</p>
<p> </p>
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      <itunes:duration>1918</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Navigating the Future of Employee Relations</title>
      <description>In this episode of DriveThruHR, Michael VanDervort and Robin Schooling engage with Rebecca Trotsky, Chief People Officer at HR Acuity, discussing the evolution of employee relations, the importance of talent development, and the role of technology in HR. 

They explore the significance of communities like empowER in improving HR practices, the necessity of continuous learning, how HR tech has changed employee relations, and the adaptability of HR professionals across various industries. The conversation ends with a fun speed round of HR-related questions, emphasizing the human aspect of HR and the employee experience.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2025 19:09:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Navigating the Future of Employee Relations</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1672</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode of DriveThruHR, Michael VanDervort and Robin Schooling engage with Rebecca Trotsky, Chief People Officer at HR Acuity, discussing the evolution of employee relations, the importance of talent development, and the role of technology in HR. 

They explore the significance of communities like empowER in improving HR practices, the necessity of continuous learning, how HR tech has changed employee relations, and the adaptability of HR professionals across various industries. The conversation ends with a fun speed round of HR-related questions, emphasizing the human aspect of HR and the employee experience.</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>DriveThruHR</em>, Michael VanDervort and Robin Schooling engage with <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebeccatrotsky/">Rebecca Trotsky</a>, Chief People Officer at <a href="https://www.hracuity.com/blog/">HR Acuity</a>, discussing the evolution of employee relations, the importance of talent development, and the role of technology in HR. </p>
<p>They explore the significance of communities like <a href="https://www.hracuity.com/empower-community/">empowER</a> in improving HR practices, the necessity of continuous learning, how HR tech has changed employee relations, and the adaptability of HR professionals across various industries. The conversation ends with a fun speed round of HR-related questions, emphasizing the human aspect of HR and the employee experience.</p>
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      <itunes:duration>1776</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Real HR: Insights From Robin Schooling</title>
      <description>In this episode of DriveThruHR, Michael turns the mic on his longtime co-host, Robin Schooling, about her brand-new book, Real HR: What It Is, What It Can Be, and How to Get There. What unfolds is part interview, part therapy session, and part HR real-talk manifesto.

Robin shares the behind-the-scenes journey of writing a book that doesn’t sugarcoat the realities of the HR trenches. From the lonely moments to the WTF ones, Real HR is about cutting through the corporate noise and saying the quiet parts out loud. Michael and Robin talk about why empathy matters (like, actually matters), how storytelling makes us better HR humans, and why HR pros must stop waiting for permission to lead with their values.

Oh, and they also talk about burnout. (Because, duh, it’s HR.)

TL;DL (Too Long; Didn’t Listen) Takeaways:


  
Real HR is messy, human, and long overdue.

  Writing a book is like doing HR: it’s hard, personal, and not for the faint of heart.

  Storytelling isn’t fluff - it’s how people learn and connect.

  Tech is a tool, not a substitute for empathy.

  Burnout is rampant; community and reflection are survival gear.

  Robin’s not done writing. Stay tuned.


Grab your coffee, your sense of humor, and maybe a stress ball - this one’s for anyone who’s ever been “voluntold” to fix the unfixable</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2025 13:18:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Real HR: Insights From Robin Schooling</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1671</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/f76079d2-2d96-11f0-bb3e-bb978f3171d9/image/f0f3d4ca4374c8ed38aa8727414329bb.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode of DriveThruHR, Michael turns the mic on his longtime co-host, Robin Schooling, about her brand-new book, Real HR: What It Is, What It Can Be, and How to Get There. What unfolds is part interview, part therapy session, and part HR real-talk manifesto.

Robin shares the behind-the-scenes journey of writing a book that doesn’t sugarcoat the realities of the HR trenches. From the lonely moments to the WTF ones, Real HR is about cutting through the corporate noise and saying the quiet parts out loud. Michael and Robin talk about why empathy matters (like, actually matters), how storytelling makes us better HR humans, and why HR pros must stop waiting for permission to lead with their values.

Oh, and they also talk about burnout. (Because, duh, it’s HR.)

TL;DL (Too Long; Didn’t Listen) Takeaways:


  
Real HR is messy, human, and long overdue.

  Writing a book is like doing HR: it’s hard, personal, and not for the faint of heart.

  Storytelling isn’t fluff - it’s how people learn and connect.

  Tech is a tool, not a substitute for empathy.

  Burnout is rampant; community and reflection are survival gear.

  Robin’s not done writing. Stay tuned.


Grab your coffee, your sense of humor, and maybe a stress ball - this one’s for anyone who’s ever been “voluntold” to fix the unfixable</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>DriveThruHR</em>, Michael turns the mic on his longtime co-host, Robin Schooling, about her brand-new book, <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/1e546410-bc7b-11ee-9838-a750a7bf4f9c/podcasts/Real%20HR:%20What%20It%20Is,%20What%20It%20Can%20Be,%20and%20How%20to%20Get%20There"><em><strong>Real HR: What It Is, What It Can Be, and How to Get There</strong></em></a><em><strong>.</strong></em> What unfolds is part interview, part therapy session, and part HR real-talk manifesto.</p>
<p>Robin shares the behind-the-scenes journey of writing a book that doesn’t sugarcoat the realities of the HR trenches. From the lonely moments to the WTF ones, <em>Real HR</em> is about cutting through the corporate noise and saying the quiet parts out loud. Michael and Robin talk about why empathy matters (like, actually matters), how storytelling makes us better HR humans, and why HR pros must stop waiting for permission to lead with their values.</p>
<p>Oh, and they also talk about burnout. (Because, duh, it’s HR.)</p>
<p><strong>TL;DL (Too Long; Didn’t Listen) Takeaways:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<em>Real HR</em> is messy, human, and long overdue.</li>
  <li>Writing a book is like doing HR: it’s hard, personal, and not for the faint of heart.</li>
  <li>Storytelling isn’t fluff - it’s how people learn and connect.</li>
  <li>Tech is a tool, not a substitute for empathy.</li>
  <li>Burnout is rampant; community and reflection are survival gear.</li>
  <li>Robin’s not done writing. Stay tuned.</li>
</ul>
<p>Grab your coffee, your sense of humor, and maybe a stress ball - this one’s for anyone who’s ever been “voluntold” to fix the unfixable</p>
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      <title>Labor Relatedly on DTHR: The First 100 Days - WTF Just Happened?</title>
      <description>Labor Relatedly: The First 100 Days—What Just Happened?Jon Hyman and Michael VanDervort are back with another episode of Labor Relatedly, and this time, they’re tackling the whirlwind of labor and employment changes in the first 100 days of the Trump administration. DEI? Shifting priorities. EEOC? New leadership, new direction. NLRB? 

Buckle up. Jon and Michael break down what’s happening, what’s coming next, and what it all means for employers trying to keep up. No fluff, no sugarcoating - just straight talk on the evolving world of labor policy.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2025 13:16:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Labor Relatedly on DTHR: The First 100 Days - WTF Just Happened?</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1670</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Labor Relatedly: The First 100 Days—What Just Happened?Jon Hyman and Michael VanDervort are back with another episode of Labor Relatedly, and this time, they’re tackling the whirlwind of labor and employment changes in the first 100 days of the Trump administration. DEI? Shifting priorities. EEOC? New leadership, new direction. NLRB? 

Buckle up. Jon and Michael break down what’s happening, what’s coming next, and what it all means for employers trying to keep up. No fluff, no sugarcoating - just straight talk on the evolving world of labor policy.</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>Labor Relatedly: The First 100 Days—What Just Happened?</strong><br><a href="https://www.ohioemployerlawblog.com/"><strong>Jon Hyman</strong></a><strong> </strong>and <a href="https://news.lrionline.com/"><strong>Michael VanDervort</strong></a><strong> </strong>are back with another episode of <em>Labor Relatedly</em>, and this time, they’re tackling the whirlwind of labor and employment changes in the first 100 days of the Trump administration. DEI? Shifting priorities. EEOC? New leadership, new direction. NLRB? </p>
<p>Buckle up. Jon and Michael break down what’s happening, what’s coming next, and what it all means for employers trying to keep up. No fluff, no sugarcoating - just straight talk on the evolving world of labor policy.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1835</itunes:duration>
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      <title>The Leader Shift Playbook: Transforming Leadership with Phil Wilson</title>
      <description>Phil Wilson joins Robin for a conversation on leadership, culture, and what it really takes to create high-performing teams. We’re talking about The Leader Shift Playbook, the hard lessons he learned running LRI Consulting, and why the right mindset shifts can make or break a workplace. Connect with Phil on LinkedIn or check out The Leader Shift Playbook at yourleadershift.com.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2025 15:20:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Leader Shift Playbook: Transforming Leadership with Phil Wilson</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1669</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/00816536-ff56-11ef-aad4-7f370cccdf3d/image/714bcd01a82ceb99e1fa21cdb48f8ffe.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Join us as we dive into the transformative power of leadership with Phil Wilson—author of The Leader Shift Playbook—as he shares the mindset shifts, challenges, and lessons that can take any leader from chaos to clarity.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Phil Wilson joins Robin for a conversation on leadership, culture, and what it really takes to create high-performing teams. We’re talking about The Leader Shift Playbook, the hard lessons he learned running LRI Consulting, and why the right mindset shifts can make or break a workplace. Connect with Phil on LinkedIn or check out The Leader Shift Playbook at yourleadershift.com.</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Phil Wilson joins Robin for a conversation on leadership, culture, and what it really takes to create high-performing teams. We’re talking about <em>The Leader Shift Playbook</em>, the hard lessons he learned running LRI Consulting, and why the right mindset shifts can make or break a workplace. Connect with Phil on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/philbwilson/">LinkedIn</a> or check out <em>The Leader Shift Playbook</em> at <a href="https://yourleadershift.com">yourleadershift.com</a>.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1622</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Sr. Leaders Reimagined: A New Era with Mark Fogel </title>
      <description>In this episode of Drive Thru HR, hosts Robin Schooling and Michael VanDervort welcome Mark Fogel, who describes himself as the last HR Jedi. We explore the challenges and opportunities for late career professionals in HR and discuss the importance of continuous learning, 

networking, and adapting to the changing workplace landscape. Mark shares insights on how to navigate ageism, the gig economy, and the need for agility in organizations as he encourages listeners to define their value proposition and leverage their networks to find new opportunities.
Mark is a Director and national practice consultant for Clifton Larson Allen’s Talent Management consulting practice and a former CHRO for Leviton, Marcum, and Success Academy Charter Schools. He is a Senior Adjunct Professor of distinction at Adelphi University’s Business School leading HR classes for MBA and Undergrad students in Staffing, Selection, Compensation and Global disciplines.

You can catch Mark leading a session at SHRM Talent (Nashville, March 24 – 26, 2025) or connect with him on LinkedIn.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2025 16:01:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Sr. Leaders Reimagined: A New Era with Mark Fogel </itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1668</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode of Drive Thru HR, hosts Robin Schooling and Michael VanDervort welcome Mark Fogel, who describes himself as the last HR Jedi. We explore the challenges and opportunities for late career professionals in HR and discuss the importance of continuous learning, 

networking, and adapting to the changing workplace landscape. Mark shares insights on how to navigate ageism, the gig economy, and the need for agility in organizations as he encourages listeners to define their value proposition and leverage their networks to find new opportunities.
Mark is a Director and national practice consultant for Clifton Larson Allen’s Talent Management consulting practice and a former CHRO for Leviton, Marcum, and Success Academy Charter Schools. He is a Senior Adjunct Professor of distinction at Adelphi University’s Business School leading HR classes for MBA and Undergrad students in Staffing, Selection, Compensation and Global disciplines.

You can catch Mark leading a session at SHRM Talent (Nashville, March 24 – 26, 2025) or connect with him on LinkedIn.</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Drive Thru HR, hosts Robin Schooling and Michael VanDervort welcome Mark Fogel, who describes himself as the last HR Jedi. We explore the challenges and opportunities for late career professionals in HR and discuss the importance of continuous learning, </p><p><br></p><p>networking, and adapting to the changing workplace landscape. Mark shares insights on how to navigate ageism, the gig economy, and the need for agility in organizations as he encourages listeners to define their value proposition and leverage their networks to find new opportunities.</p><p>Mark is a Director and national practice consultant for Clifton Larson Allen’s Talent Management consulting practice and a former CHRO for Leviton, Marcum, and Success Academy Charter Schools. He is a Senior Adjunct Professor of distinction at Adelphi University’s Business School leading HR classes for MBA and Undergrad students in Staffing, Selection, Compensation and Global disciplines.</p><p><br></p><p>You can catch Mark leading a session at SHRM Talent (Nashville, March 24 – 26, 2025) or connect with him on <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/marksfogel/">LinkedIn</a>.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1705</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Host Show: Celebrating our 15th Anniversary!</title>
      <link>https://drivethruhr.podbean.com/e/host-show-celebrating-our-15th-anniversary/</link>
      <description>Today, February 1st, marks the anniversary of our very first show with an air date of February 1, 2010 and we take a few moments to mark the occasion.

Michael and Robin also discuss the first 12 days of the Trump Administration (part deaux) including the assault on Diversity, Equity and Inclusion as well as the massive changes afoot at the NLRB and the EEOC - and we're not even in week 2 yet!  So what's in store for HR over the next several months....and the next 4 years?

They also chat about the need to move from DTHR's original home/platform (after 1,165 episodes and close to 1 million downloads on that platform alone) and look ahead to season 16 here at the Drive Thru! </description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 01 Feb 2025 17:01:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Host Show: Celebrating our 15th Anniversary!</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1667</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>WRKdefined Podcast Network</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Today, February 1st, marks the anniversary of our very first show with an air date of February 1, 2010 and we take a few moments to mark the occasion.
Michael and Robin also discuss the first 12 days of the Trump Administration (part deaux) including the assault on Diversity, Equity and Inclusion as well as the massive changes afoot at the NLRB and the EEOC - and we're not even in week 2 yet!  So what's in store for HR over the next several months....and the next 4 years?
They also chat about the need to move from DTHR's original home/platform (after 1,165 episodes and close to 1 million downloads on that platform alone) and look ahead to season 16 here at the Drive Thru! </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Today, February 1st, marks the anniversary of our very first show with an air date of February 1, 2010 and we take a few moments to mark the occasion.

Michael and Robin also discuss the first 12 days of the Trump Administration (part deaux) including the assault on Diversity, Equity and Inclusion as well as the massive changes afoot at the NLRB and the EEOC - and we're not even in week 2 yet!  So what's in store for HR over the next several months....and the next 4 years?

They also chat about the need to move from DTHR's original home/platform (after 1,165 episodes and close to 1 million downloads on that platform alone) and look ahead to season 16 here at the Drive Thru! </itunes:summary>
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After 1,665 episodes and well over a million listens/downloads (across all platforms), we have migrated from Blog Talk Radio to our new home base.
 
 
 
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After 1,665 episodes and well over a million listens/downloads (across all platforms), we have migrated from Blog Talk Radio to our new home base.
 
 
 
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After 1,665 episodes and well over a million listens/downloads (across all platforms), we have migrated from Blog Talk Radio to our new home base.
 
 
 
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