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      <title>Maiden → Mother → Matriarch: The Map No One Gave Us</title>
      <description>Want to work with Elle? (Life Coaching) 🔗 https://paperbell.me/elle-rowley#packagestarpk

S3 E7 | Maiden → Mother → Matriarch: The Map No One Gave Us

In this episode, Elle explores a framework that brings clarity to the often confusing experience of becoming a woman: maiden, mother, matriarch. 

Drawing from psychology, myth, and scripture, she reframes the disorientation many women feel — especially in motherhood — not as failure, but as initiation into a deeper identity.

From the maiden’s search for meaning, to the mother’s transformation through sacrifice, to the matriarch’s emergence as a source of wisdom and authority, this conversation offers language for a path many women are already walking… but don’t yet have words for.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
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      <itunes:summary>Want to work with Elle? (Life Coaching) 🔗 https://paperbell.me/elle-rowley#packagestarpk

S3 E7 | Maiden → Mother → Matriarch: The Map No One Gave Us

In this episode, Elle explores a framework that brings clarity to the often confusing experience of becoming a woman: maiden, mother, matriarch. 

Drawing from psychology, myth, and scripture, she reframes the disorientation many women feel — especially in motherhood — not as failure, but as initiation into a deeper identity.

From the maiden’s search for meaning, to the mother’s transformation through sacrifice, to the matriarch’s emergence as a source of wisdom and authority, this conversation offers language for a path many women are already walking… but don’t yet have words for.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Want to work with Elle? (Life Coaching) 🔗 https://paperbell.me/elle-rowley#packagestarpk</p>
<p>S3 E7 | Maiden → Mother → Matriarch: The Map No One Gave Us</p>
<p>In this episode, Elle explores a framework that brings clarity to the often confusing experience of becoming a woman: <strong>maiden, mother, matriarch</strong>. </p>
<p>Drawing from psychology, myth, and scripture, she reframes the disorientation many women feel — especially in motherhood — not as failure, but as initiation into a deeper identity.</p>
<p>From the maiden’s search for meaning, to the mother’s transformation through sacrifice, to the matriarch’s emergence as a source of wisdom and authority, this conversation offers language for a path many women are already walking… but don’t yet have words for.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <description>Want to work with Elle? (Life Coaching) 🔗 https://paperbell.me/elle-rowley#packagestarpk

Season 3 Episode 6 | Letters from Down the Well: Finding Yourself After Motherhood (Postpartum, Identity &amp; Overwhelm)



In this episode, Elle introduces Letters from Down the Well — a new series where real questions from women and mothers open the door to honest, transformative conversations. 

From postpartum identity and overwhelm to marriage, mom guilt, and breaking generational cycles, Elle offers a grounded reminder:

You’re not failing — you’re becoming.

If you’ve felt lost, stretched, or unsure of who you are in this season of motherhood, this episode will meet you there with clarity, perspective, and encouragement.



~



We would LOVE your thoughts on this episode. Do you want more podcast episodes in this layout? You ask, I answer. 


Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

https://substack.com/@ellerowley
https://www.instagram.com/ellerowley

00:00 - Welcoming Listeners

02:01 - Identity Struggles Postpartum

03:41 - Advice: Humility and Curiosity

05:49 - Starting Solibaby After Birth

07:34 - Open-Heartedness After Loss

10:13 - Mothering Without Your Mother

13:36 - Adjusting Homeschooling Expectations

16:44 - Connection During Toddler Phase

21:00 - Weekly Date Night Advice

27:02 - Meltdowns: Mothering Yourself


~

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
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      <itunes:summary>Want to work with Elle? (Life Coaching) 🔗 https://paperbell.me/elle-rowley#packagestarpk

Season 3 Episode 6 | Letters from Down the Well: Finding Yourself After Motherhood (Postpartum, Identity &amp; Overwhelm)



In this episode, Elle introduces Letters from Down the Well — a new series where real questions from women and mothers open the door to honest, transformative conversations. 

From postpartum identity and overwhelm to marriage, mom guilt, and breaking generational cycles, Elle offers a grounded reminder:

You’re not failing — you’re becoming.

If you’ve felt lost, stretched, or unsure of who you are in this season of motherhood, this episode will meet you there with clarity, perspective, and encouragement.



~



We would LOVE your thoughts on this episode. Do you want more podcast episodes in this layout? You ask, I answer. 


Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

https://substack.com/@ellerowley
https://www.instagram.com/ellerowley

00:00 - Welcoming Listeners

02:01 - Identity Struggles Postpartum

03:41 - Advice: Humility and Curiosity

05:49 - Starting Solibaby After Birth

07:34 - Open-Heartedness After Loss

10:13 - Mothering Without Your Mother

13:36 - Adjusting Homeschooling Expectations

16:44 - Connection During Toddler Phase

21:00 - Weekly Date Night Advice

27:02 - Meltdowns: Mothering Yourself


~

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Want to work with Elle? (Life Coaching) 🔗 https://paperbell.me/elle-rowley#packagestarpk

Season 3 Episode 6 | Letters from Down the Well: Finding Yourself After Motherhood (Postpartum, Identity &amp; Overwhelm)</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>In this episode, Elle introduces <strong>Letters from Down the Well</strong> — a new series where real questions from women and mothers open the door to honest, transformative conversations. </p>
<p>From postpartum identity and overwhelm to marriage, mom guilt, and breaking generational cycles, Elle offers a grounded reminder:</p>
<p>You’re not failing — you’re becoming.</p>
<p>If you’ve felt lost, stretched, or unsure of who you are in this season of motherhood, this episode will meet you there with clarity, perspective, and encouragement.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>~</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>We would LOVE your thoughts on this episode. Do you want more podcast episodes in this layout? You ask, I answer. </p>
<p>
Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

https://substack.com/@ellerowley
https://www.instagram.com/ellerowley

00:00 - Welcoming Listeners</p>
<p>02:01 - Identity Struggles Postpartum</p>
<p>03:41 - Advice: Humility and Curiosity</p>
<p>05:49 - Starting Solibaby After Birth</p>
<p>07:34 - Open-Heartedness After Loss</p>
<p>10:13 - Mothering Without Your Mother</p>
<p>13:36 - Adjusting Homeschooling Expectations</p>
<p>16:44 - Connection During Toddler Phase</p>
<p>21:00 - Weekly Date Night Advice</p>
<p>27:02 - Meltdowns: Mothering Yourself</p>
<p>
~

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Reclaiming the Table: Why Gathering Matters</title>
      <description>Want to work with Elle? (Life Coaching) 🔗 https://paperbell.me/elle-rowley#packagestarpk 

Season 3 Episode 5 | Reclaiming the Table: Why Gathering Matters

In this episode of Down The Well, Elle Rowley sits down with cookbook author and Recipe Club founder Kelsey Nixon for an honest conversation about why gathering around the dinner table matters. Kelsey shares childhood memories, her personal journey through motherhood and loss, and practical tips for reclaiming family dinner—even when life is busy or imperfect.

Together, they bust the myth of “perfect” hosting, discuss the real reason dinner matters, and inspire listeners to embrace simple, meaningful meals as a source of connection and love. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by dinner or hosting, this soulful episode is for you.

P.S. If you haven’t tried meal planning through Recipe Club, stop everything and sign up for two weeks free (code: ELLE) to test it out. You’ll never go back. I still can’t decide if it’s because of the one-click Instacart shopping or the fact that my kids never complain about dinner now as long as it’s a “Kelsey recipe.” It has truly revolutionized dinner time at our house almost three years ago and I promise it will at your house too.


Recipe Club - https://kelseynixon.com/
Kelsey's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/kelseynixon/?hl=en


Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

https://substack.com/@ellerowley
https://www.instagram.com/ellerowley


~

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2026 11:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Want to work with Elle? (Life Coaching) 🔗 https://paperbell.me/elle-rowley#packagestarpk 

Season 3 Episode 5 | Reclaiming the Table: Why Gathering Matters

In this episode of Down The Well, Elle Rowley sits down with cookbook author and Recipe Club founder Kelsey Nixon for an honest conversation about why gathering around the dinner table matters. Kelsey shares childhood memories, her personal journey through motherhood and loss, and practical tips for reclaiming family dinner—even when life is busy or imperfect.

Together, they bust the myth of “perfect” hosting, discuss the real reason dinner matters, and inspire listeners to embrace simple, meaningful meals as a source of connection and love. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by dinner or hosting, this soulful episode is for you.

P.S. If you haven’t tried meal planning through Recipe Club, stop everything and sign up for two weeks free (code: ELLE) to test it out. You’ll never go back. I still can’t decide if it’s because of the one-click Instacart shopping or the fact that my kids never complain about dinner now as long as it’s a “Kelsey recipe.” It has truly revolutionized dinner time at our house almost three years ago and I promise it will at your house too.


Recipe Club - https://kelseynixon.com/
Kelsey's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/kelseynixon/?hl=en


Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

https://substack.com/@ellerowley
https://www.instagram.com/ellerowley


~

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Want to work with Elle? (Life Coaching) 🔗 https://paperbell.me/elle-rowley#packagestarpk 

Season 3 Episode 5 | Reclaiming the Table: Why Gathering Matters

In this episode of Down The Well, Elle Rowley sits down with cookbook author and Recipe Club founder Kelsey Nixon for an honest conversation about why gathering around the dinner table matters. Kelsey shares childhood memories, her personal journey through motherhood and loss, and practical tips for reclaiming family dinner—even when life is busy or imperfect.</p>
<p>Together, they bust the myth of “perfect” hosting, discuss the real reason dinner matters, and inspire listeners to embrace simple, meaningful meals as a source of connection and love. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by dinner or hosting, this soulful episode is for you.</p>
<p>P.S. If you haven’t tried meal planning through <a href="https://kelseynixon.com/">Recipe Club</a>, stop everything and sign up for <strong>two weeks free (code: ELLE)</strong> to test it out. You’ll never go back. I still can’t decide if it’s because of the one-click Instacart shopping or the fact that my kids never complain about dinner now as long as it’s a “Kelsey recipe.” It has truly revolutionized dinner time at our house almost three years ago and I promise it will at your house too.</p>
<p>
Recipe Club - https://kelseynixon.com/
Kelsey's Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/kelseynixon/?hl=en</p>
<p>
Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

https://substack.com/@ellerowley
https://www.instagram.com/ellerowley</p>
<p>
~

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Overwhelm, Resentment, and the Return of Inner Authority</title>
      <description>Schedule a free coaching consult elle@levincapital.com

Season 3 Episode 4 | Break The Cycle of Overwhelm and Resentment In Motherhood

In this episode of Down The Well, Elle Rowley dives into the root causes of overwhelm and resentment in motherhood, revealing how the stories we tell ourselves can quietly define our experiences. Moving through scenarios of three mothers, Elle explores how old beliefs can keep us trapped. 



Have you had any of these thoughts before?

“I am the only capable adult”

"A good mother never has limits"

"I have everything, I don't get to want more"

If so, this episode is for YOU!


With empathy and practical advice, Elle Rowley encourages listeners to rewrite these narratives, embrace healthy boundaries, and reclaim inner authority. This is an empowering guide for anyone ready to shift from martyrdom to self-leadership, and build a more aligned, fulfilling life as a mother.


Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

https://substack.com/@ellerowley
https://www.instagram.com/ellerowley

00:00 - Overwhelm Isn't Random, It's Story-Driven

01:07 - Phases: Maiden, Mother, Matriarch

03:52 – Overwhelm = Busy Mom Stereotype

04:55 – Overwhelm: Cognitive, Emotional, Existential

07:45 – Sarah: Only Capable Adult

14:51 – Maria: Never Has Limits

20:07 – Availability VS True Presence

28:55 – Architect Your Life, Intentional Choices

~

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2026 12:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Elle Rowley</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Schedule a free coaching consult elle@levincapital.com

Season 3 Episode 4 | Break The Cycle of Overwhelm and Resentment In Motherhood

In this episode of Down The Well, Elle Rowley dives into the root causes of overwhelm and resentment in motherhood, revealing how the stories we tell ourselves can quietly define our experiences. Moving through scenarios of three mothers, Elle explores how old beliefs can keep us trapped. 



Have you had any of these thoughts before?

“I am the only capable adult”

"A good mother never has limits"

"I have everything, I don't get to want more"

If so, this episode is for YOU!


With empathy and practical advice, Elle Rowley encourages listeners to rewrite these narratives, embrace healthy boundaries, and reclaim inner authority. This is an empowering guide for anyone ready to shift from martyrdom to self-leadership, and build a more aligned, fulfilling life as a mother.


Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

https://substack.com/@ellerowley
https://www.instagram.com/ellerowley

00:00 - Overwhelm Isn't Random, It's Story-Driven

01:07 - Phases: Maiden, Mother, Matriarch

03:52 – Overwhelm = Busy Mom Stereotype

04:55 – Overwhelm: Cognitive, Emotional, Existential

07:45 – Sarah: Only Capable Adult

14:51 – Maria: Never Has Limits

20:07 – Availability VS True Presence

28:55 – Architect Your Life, Intentional Choices

~

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Schedule a free coaching consult elle@levincapital.com

Season 3 Episode 4 | Break The Cycle of Overwhelm and Resentment In Motherhood</p>
<p>In this episode of Down The Well, Elle Rowley dives into the root causes of overwhelm and resentment in motherhood, revealing how the stories we tell ourselves can quietly define our experiences. Moving through scenarios of three mothers, Elle explores how old beliefs can keep us trapped. </p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Have you had any of these thoughts before?</p>
<p>“I am the only capable adult”</p>
<p>"A good mother never has limits"</p>
<p>"I have everything, I don't get to want more"</p>
<p>If so, this episode is for YOU!</p>
<p>
With empathy and practical advice, Elle Rowley encourages listeners to rewrite these narratives, embrace healthy boundaries, and reclaim inner authority. This is an empowering guide for anyone ready to shift from martyrdom to self-leadership, and build a more aligned, fulfilling life as a mother.</p>
<p>
Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

https://substack.com/@ellerowley
https://www.instagram.com/ellerowley

00:00 - Overwhelm Isn't Random, It's Story-Driven</p>
<p>01:07 - Phases: Maiden, Mother, Matriarch</p>
<p>03:52 – Overwhelm = Busy Mom Stereotype</p>
<p>04:55 – Overwhelm: Cognitive, Emotional, Existential</p>
<p>07:45 – Sarah: Only Capable Adult</p>
<p>14:51 – Maria: Never Has Limits</p>
<p>20:07 – Availability VS True Presence</p>
<p>28:55 – Architect Your Life, Intentional Choices

~

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <description>Schedule a free coaching consult - elle@levincapital.com

Season 3 Episode 3 | Who She Became After the Waiting — 5 Lessons From Leanne Morgan

In this episode of Down The Well, Elle Rowley takes listeners on a journey through the inspiring life and career of comedian Leanne Morgan, celebrating her as a modern-day matriarch whose humor and wisdom are hard-earned and deeply relatable. Through stories of motherhood, late blooming success, and finding comedy in the chaos of everyday life, Elle Rowley distills five powerful lessons from Leanne Morgan's journey—including the transformative power of humor, the quiet strength of gentleness, and the mythic value found in ordinary lives. 

With warm anecdotes, personal reflections, and snippets from Leanne Morgan herself, this episode is both a tribute to a beloved Southern voice and an uplifting reminder that it’s never too late to step into your own light.

Leanne's Book: https://www.leannemorgan.com/book

Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee: https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

https://substack.com/@ellerowley
https://www.instagram.com/ellerowley

00:00 Introduction to Leanne Morgan
02:59 - Attending Leanne’s Netflix taping
05:03 - Leanne’s “Ordinary” Life Details
07:00 - Matriarchal Lessons: Right on Time
10:18 - Leanne on God’s Timing
12:40 - Humorous Motherhood Moments
18:00 - Mythic Power in Ordinary Lives
26:30 - Closing Lessons &amp; Gratitude

~

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Schedule a free coaching consult - elle@levincapital.com

Season 3 Episode 3 | Who She Became After the Waiting — 5 Lessons From Leanne Morgan

In this episode of Down The Well, Elle Rowley takes listeners on a journey through the inspiring life and career of comedian Leanne Morgan, celebrating her as a modern-day matriarch whose humor and wisdom are hard-earned and deeply relatable. Through stories of motherhood, late blooming success, and finding comedy in the chaos of everyday life, Elle Rowley distills five powerful lessons from Leanne Morgan's journey—including the transformative power of humor, the quiet strength of gentleness, and the mythic value found in ordinary lives. 

With warm anecdotes, personal reflections, and snippets from Leanne Morgan herself, this episode is both a tribute to a beloved Southern voice and an uplifting reminder that it’s never too late to step into your own light.

Leanne's Book: https://www.leannemorgan.com/book

Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee: https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

https://substack.com/@ellerowley
https://www.instagram.com/ellerowley

00:00 Introduction to Leanne Morgan
02:59 - Attending Leanne’s Netflix taping
05:03 - Leanne’s “Ordinary” Life Details
07:00 - Matriarchal Lessons: Right on Time
10:18 - Leanne on God’s Timing
12:40 - Humorous Motherhood Moments
18:00 - Mythic Power in Ordinary Lives
26:30 - Closing Lessons &amp; Gratitude

~

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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Season 3 Episode 3 | Who She Became After the Waiting — 5 Lessons From Leanne Morgan

In this episode of Down The Well, Elle Rowley takes listeners on a journey through the inspiring life and career of comedian Leanne Morgan, celebrating her as a modern-day matriarch whose humor and wisdom are hard-earned and deeply relatable. Through stories of motherhood, late blooming success, and finding comedy in the chaos of everyday life, Elle Rowley distills five powerful lessons from Leanne Morgan's journey—including the transformative power of humor, the quiet strength of gentleness, and the mythic value found in ordinary lives. 

With warm anecdotes, personal reflections, and snippets from Leanne Morgan herself, this episode is both a tribute to a beloved Southern voice and an uplifting reminder that it’s never too late to step into your own light.

Leanne's Book: https://www.leannemorgan.com/book

Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee: https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

https://substack.com/@ellerowley
https://www.instagram.com/ellerowley

00:00 Introduction to Leanne Morgan
02:59 - Attending Leanne’s Netflix taping
05:03 - Leanne’s “Ordinary” Life Details
07:00 - Matriarchal Lessons: Right on Time
10:18 - Leanne on God’s Timing
12:40 - Humorous Motherhood Moments
18:00 - Mythic Power in Ordinary Lives
26:30 - Closing Lessons &amp; Gratitude

~

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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Sz 3 Ep 2 | What if losing yourself in motherhood was only the beginning of your real story?

In this powerful solo episode, Elle Rowley dives into the most common and painful experience shared by mothers everywhere: the feeling of disappearing into motherhood. Drawing wisdom from both her own journey and the collective voices of hundreds of moms, she unpacks the loneliness, exhaustion, and self-loss that so often come with parenting—and challenges the idea that these struggles are the end of your story.

Through the lens of the classic Cinderella fairy tale, Elle reframes the descent into caretaking and invisibility as the first act of a profound transformation. This episode isn’t about escaping your life or returning to who you once were, but about reclaiming identity, integrating selfhood with care, and finding meaning and adventure in every messy, exhausting phase.

You'll hear raw confessions, honest reflections, and practical strategies on how to embrace the “underground” seasons, trust the growth that’s happening beneath the surface, and courageously begin your re-emergence. From self-care rituals to reframing guilt and redefining what it means to be “enough,” this episode is an invitation to trust that you’re becoming someone larger and truer—right in the heart of motherhood.

If you or someone you love is struggling to see the light at the bottom of the well, this chapter promises hope, clarity, and a way forward. Join Elle in rewriting your story—one that honors both the sacrifices and the reawakening that motherhood demands.
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Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley

Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

Schedule a free coaching consult with Elle - elle@levincapital.com

Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

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About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.

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Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Exhaustion and isolation in motherhood

00:01:26 - Rewriting common motherhood narratives

00:07:42 - Cinderella as a transformation metaphor

00:11:09 - Rediscovering self-worth and identity

00:14:13 - Embracing phases and growth

00:16:41 - Personal descent and new beginnings

00:19:01 - Integration, not escape, in motherhood
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Contact Elle, elle@levincapital.com, to schedule a free coaching consult.

Sz 3 Ep 2 | What if losing yourself in motherhood was only the beginning of your real story?

In this powerful solo episode, Elle Rowley dives into the most common and painful experience shared by mothers everywhere: the feeling of disappearing into motherhood. Drawing wisdom from both her own journey and the collective voices of hundreds of moms, she unpacks the loneliness, exhaustion, and self-loss that so often come with parenting—and challenges the idea that these struggles are the end of your story.

Through the lens of the classic Cinderella fairy tale, Elle reframes the descent into caretaking and invisibility as the first act of a profound transformation. This episode isn’t about escaping your life or returning to who you once were, but about reclaiming identity, integrating selfhood with care, and finding meaning and adventure in every messy, exhausting phase.

You'll hear raw confessions, honest reflections, and practical strategies on how to embrace the “underground” seasons, trust the growth that’s happening beneath the surface, and courageously begin your re-emergence. From self-care rituals to reframing guilt and redefining what it means to be “enough,” this episode is an invitation to trust that you’re becoming someone larger and truer—right in the heart of motherhood.

If you or someone you love is struggling to see the light at the bottom of the well, this chapter promises hope, clarity, and a way forward. Join Elle in rewriting your story—one that honors both the sacrifices and the reawakening that motherhood demands.
-----

Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley

Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

Schedule a free coaching consult with Elle - elle@levincapital.com

Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

-----

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.

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Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Exhaustion and isolation in motherhood

00:01:26 - Rewriting common motherhood narratives

00:07:42 - Cinderella as a transformation metaphor

00:11:09 - Rediscovering self-worth and identity

00:14:13 - Embracing phases and growth

00:16:41 - Personal descent and new beginnings

00:19:01 - Integration, not escape, in motherhood
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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<p>Sz 3 Ep 2 | What if losing yourself in motherhood was only the beginning of your real story?</p>
<p>In this powerful solo episode, Elle Rowley dives into the most common and painful experience shared by mothers everywhere: the feeling of disappearing into motherhood. Drawing wisdom from both her own journey and the collective voices of hundreds of moms, she unpacks the loneliness, exhaustion, and self-loss that so often come with parenting—and challenges the idea that these struggles are the end of your story.</p>
<p>Through the lens of the classic Cinderella fairy tale, Elle reframes the descent into caretaking and invisibility as the first act of a profound transformation. This episode isn’t about escaping your life or returning to who you once were, but about reclaiming identity, integrating selfhood with care, and finding meaning and adventure in every messy, exhausting phase.</p>
<p>You'll hear raw confessions, honest reflections, and practical strategies on how to embrace the “underground” seasons, trust the growth that’s happening beneath the surface, and courageously begin your re-emergence. From self-care rituals to reframing guilt and redefining what it means to be “enough,” this episode is an invitation to trust that you’re becoming someone larger and truer—right in the heart of motherhood.</p>
<p>If you or someone you love is struggling to see the light at the bottom of the well, this chapter promises hope, clarity, and a way forward. Join Elle in rewriting your story—one that honors both the sacrifices and the reawakening that motherhood demands.
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<p>Down The Well Links:</p>
<p>Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley</p>
<p>Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley</p>
<p>Schedule a free coaching consult with Elle - elle@levincapital.com</p>
<p>Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop</p>
<p>-----</p>
<p>About Down The Well:</p>
<p>Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.</p>
<p>Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p>
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<p>Timestamps:
00:00:00 - Exhaustion and isolation in motherhood</p>
<p>00:01:26 - Rewriting common motherhood narratives</p>
<p>00:07:42 - Cinderella as a transformation metaphor</p>
<p>00:11:09 - Rediscovering self-worth and identity</p>
<p>00:14:13 - Embracing phases and growth</p>
<p>00:16:41 - Personal descent and new beginnings</p>
<p>00:19:01 - Integration, not escape, in motherhood</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Why Motherhood Feels So Hard (It’s the Story You’re Living In)</title>
      <description>Szn 3 Ep 1 | What if the biggest obstacle to joy isn’t your circumstances—but the stories you unknowingly tell yourself?

In this season opener of Down The Well, Elle Rowley unpacks the true meaning of transformation, inviting listeners to bravely reexamine the narratives shaping their motherhood—and their lives. Through vulnerable storytelling and thought-provoking wisdom, Elle shares her own journey from feeling like “the party pooper” mom, always overshadowed by her husband’s fun energy, to intentionally rewriting her identity and rediscovering the magic she brought to the table.

Whether you’re stuck in a cycle of self-doubt, feeling “blah” about mom life, or just hungry for real growth beneath the overwhelm, this premiere marks the start of a transformative six-part series dedicated to helping you reclaim authorship of your own story. You’ll leave with not only inspiration, but actionable questions and gentle encouragement to mother yourself as thoughtfully as you mother your children.

If you’re ready to stop letting old stories run the show and begin a year of true, lasting transformation, this is the episode for you. Down the well we go—together.

Show Links:
Narrative Coaching by David B. Drake - https://www.amazon.com/Narrative-Coaching-Definitive-Bringing-Stories/dp/0996356312

Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley
Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley
Schedule a free coaching consult with Elle - elle@levincapital.com

Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

-----

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2026 11:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Szn 3 Ep 1 | What if the biggest obstacle to joy isn’t your circumstances—but the stories you unknowingly tell yourself?

In this season opener of Down The Well, Elle Rowley unpacks the true meaning of transformation, inviting listeners to bravely reexamine the narratives shaping their motherhood—and their lives. Through vulnerable storytelling and thought-provoking wisdom, Elle shares her own journey from feeling like “the party pooper” mom, always overshadowed by her husband’s fun energy, to intentionally rewriting her identity and rediscovering the magic she brought to the table.

Whether you’re stuck in a cycle of self-doubt, feeling “blah” about mom life, or just hungry for real growth beneath the overwhelm, this premiere marks the start of a transformative six-part series dedicated to helping you reclaim authorship of your own story. You’ll leave with not only inspiration, but actionable questions and gentle encouragement to mother yourself as thoughtfully as you mother your children.

If you’re ready to stop letting old stories run the show and begin a year of true, lasting transformation, this is the episode for you. Down the well we go—together.

Show Links:
Narrative Coaching by David B. Drake - https://www.amazon.com/Narrative-Coaching-Definitive-Bringing-Stories/dp/0996356312

Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley
Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley
Schedule a free coaching consult with Elle - elle@levincapital.com

Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

-----

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Szn 3 Ep 1 | What if the biggest obstacle to joy isn’t your circumstances—but the stories you unknowingly tell yourself?

In this season opener of Down The Well, Elle Rowley unpacks the true meaning of transformation, inviting listeners to bravely reexamine the narratives shaping their motherhood—and their lives. Through vulnerable storytelling and thought-provoking wisdom, Elle shares her own journey from feeling like “the party pooper” mom, always overshadowed by her husband’s fun energy, to intentionally rewriting her identity and rediscovering the magic she brought to the table.

Whether you’re stuck in a cycle of self-doubt, feeling “blah” about mom life, or just hungry for real growth beneath the overwhelm, this premiere marks the start of a transformative six-part series dedicated to helping you reclaim authorship of your own story. You’ll leave with not only inspiration, but actionable questions and gentle encouragement to mother yourself as thoughtfully as you mother your children.

If you’re ready to stop letting old stories run the show and begin a year of true, lasting transformation, this is the episode for you. Down the well we go—together.

Show Links:
Narrative Coaching by David B. Drake - https://www.amazon.com/Narrative-Coaching-Definitive-Bringing-Stories/dp/0996356312

Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley
Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley
Schedule a free coaching consult with Elle - elle@levincapital.com

Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

-----

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>What This Year Taught Me: 25 Lessons From 2025</title>
      <description>Sz 2 Ep 15 | What if you could rewrite your story, and finally step into the life you’ve been hoping for?

In this end-of-year solo episode, Elle Rowley brings you her “25 Lessons from 2025”—equal parts practical wisdom and raw honesty. From the highs of parenting teenagers to the everyday struggles with self-judgment and comparison, Elle shares the insights she gained by analyzing her year with the help of ChatGPT (yes, really!) and looking back at how far she’s come.

This isn’t just about resolutions or superficial transformation. It’s about the deeper work of noticing where you’re lying to yourself, wasting time, or letting someone else frame your story. Whether it’s learning to track your sleep, finding the courage for hard conversations, or finally embracing the goodness you’ve worked so hard for, Elle gets real about growth, marriage, motherhood, and the quiet power of optimism.

You'll hear stories on how small shifts—like prioritizing family dinner, laughing more with your kids, or keeping teenagers off social media—make the biggest impact. Plus, Elle reveals how she’s learning to drop her survival mindset and lead with joy, not just fear.

Simple, heartfelt, and game-changing—this episode will push you to take back the script of your life and let the chips fall where they may. Join Elle Rowley as she closes out the year and invites you to step into 2026 with clarity, courage, and hope.

Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley

Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

-----

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Sz 2 Ep 15 | What if you could rewrite your story, and finally step into the life you’ve been hoping for?

In this end-of-year solo episode, Elle Rowley brings you her “25 Lessons from 2025”—equal parts practical wisdom and raw honesty. From the highs of parenting teenagers to the everyday struggles with self-judgment and comparison, Elle shares the insights she gained by analyzing her year with the help of ChatGPT (yes, really!) and looking back at how far she’s come.

This isn’t just about resolutions or superficial transformation. It’s about the deeper work of noticing where you’re lying to yourself, wasting time, or letting someone else frame your story. Whether it’s learning to track your sleep, finding the courage for hard conversations, or finally embracing the goodness you’ve worked so hard for, Elle gets real about growth, marriage, motherhood, and the quiet power of optimism.

You'll hear stories on how small shifts—like prioritizing family dinner, laughing more with your kids, or keeping teenagers off social media—make the biggest impact. Plus, Elle reveals how she’s learning to drop her survival mindset and lead with joy, not just fear.

Simple, heartfelt, and game-changing—this episode will push you to take back the script of your life and let the chips fall where they may. Join Elle Rowley as she closes out the year and invites you to step into 2026 with clarity, courage, and hope.

Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley

Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

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About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sz 2 Ep 15 | What if you could rewrite your story, and finally step into the life you’ve been hoping for?</p>
<p>In this end-of-year solo episode, Elle Rowley brings you her “25 Lessons from 2025”—equal parts practical wisdom and raw honesty. From the highs of parenting teenagers to the everyday struggles with self-judgment and comparison, Elle shares the insights she gained by analyzing her year with the help of ChatGPT (yes, really!) and looking back at how far she’s come.</p>
<p>This isn’t just about resolutions or superficial transformation. It’s about the deeper work of noticing where you’re lying to yourself, wasting time, or letting someone else frame your story. Whether it’s learning to track your sleep, finding the courage for hard conversations, or finally embracing the goodness you’ve worked so hard for, Elle gets real about growth, marriage, motherhood, and the quiet power of optimism.</p>
<p>You'll hear stories on how small shifts—like prioritizing family dinner, laughing more with your kids, or keeping teenagers off social media—make the biggest impact. Plus, Elle reveals how she’s learning to drop her survival mindset and lead with joy, not just fear.</p>
<p>Simple, heartfelt, and game-changing—this episode will push you to take back the script of your life and let the chips fall where they may. Join Elle Rowley as she closes out the year and invites you to step into 2026 with clarity, courage, and hope.</p>
<p>Down The Well Links:</p>
<p>Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley</p>
<p>Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley</p>
<p>Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop</p>
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<p>About Down The Well:</p>
<p>Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.</p>
<p>Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>When You’re Down the Well: Simple Tools That Work With Jody Moore</title>
      <description>Sz 2 Ep 14 | What if emotional overwhelm isn't coming from your life circumstances—but from the sentences running through your mind?

In this intimate, practical conversation, Elle Rowley sits down with master coach Jody Moore to explore the roots of emotional suffering for mothers, especially in life's toughest seasons. Together, they bust the myth that overwhelm, anxiety, and guilt are caused by what’s happening outside of us, and instead reveal how our thoughts—and the judgments stacked on top of them—create our hardest moments.

Jody Moore shares how practicing self-compassion, curiosity, and letting go of perfectionism transformed her experience as a mother, coach, and woman. She explains why striving to be a “good mom” can be counterproductive, and why embracing your “world’s okayest mom” moments might be exactly what you and your kids need.

You'll hear real stories from Elle about navigating complicated grief, her early struggles with self-judgment, and how thought awareness opened the door to healing. Jody dives into practical concepts—from emotional adulthood and curiosity in hard conversations, to the power of raising your “minimum baseline” and owning your choice to stay connected, even when you want to quit.

This episode is a compassionate guide to befriending your emotions, shedding unnecessary suffering, and building stronger relationships—starting with the one you have with yourself.

Timestamps

00:00:00 - Emotions driven by self-compassion.

00:03:00 - Podcast helps mothers in grief.

00:07:00 - Overwhelm comes from our thoughts.

00:12:00 - Handling teen anxiety with validation.

00:16:00 - Bad days versus rough seasons.

00:21:00 - Celebrating "okayest mom" mindset.

00:27:00 - Set practical minimum baselines.

00:33:00 - Moments of connection over work.

00:40:00 - Embracing compassion and self-acceptance.

01:07:00 - Aspirations for matriarch phase.

Episode Links: 
Jody's Website - https://jodymoore.com/

Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley

Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

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About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2025 11:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Elle Rowley</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Sz 2 Ep 14 | What if emotional overwhelm isn't coming from your life circumstances—but from the sentences running through your mind?

In this intimate, practical conversation, Elle Rowley sits down with master coach Jody Moore to explore the roots of emotional suffering for mothers, especially in life's toughest seasons. Together, they bust the myth that overwhelm, anxiety, and guilt are caused by what’s happening outside of us, and instead reveal how our thoughts—and the judgments stacked on top of them—create our hardest moments.

Jody Moore shares how practicing self-compassion, curiosity, and letting go of perfectionism transformed her experience as a mother, coach, and woman. She explains why striving to be a “good mom” can be counterproductive, and why embracing your “world’s okayest mom” moments might be exactly what you and your kids need.

You'll hear real stories from Elle about navigating complicated grief, her early struggles with self-judgment, and how thought awareness opened the door to healing. Jody dives into practical concepts—from emotional adulthood and curiosity in hard conversations, to the power of raising your “minimum baseline” and owning your choice to stay connected, even when you want to quit.

This episode is a compassionate guide to befriending your emotions, shedding unnecessary suffering, and building stronger relationships—starting with the one you have with yourself.

Timestamps

00:00:00 - Emotions driven by self-compassion.

00:03:00 - Podcast helps mothers in grief.

00:07:00 - Overwhelm comes from our thoughts.

00:12:00 - Handling teen anxiety with validation.

00:16:00 - Bad days versus rough seasons.

00:21:00 - Celebrating "okayest mom" mindset.

00:27:00 - Set practical minimum baselines.

00:33:00 - Moments of connection over work.

00:40:00 - Embracing compassion and self-acceptance.

01:07:00 - Aspirations for matriarch phase.

Episode Links: 
Jody's Website - https://jodymoore.com/

Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley

Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

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About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sz 2 Ep 14 | What if emotional overwhelm isn't coming from your life circumstances—but from the sentences running through your mind?</p>
<p>In this intimate, practical conversation, Elle Rowley sits down with master coach Jody Moore to explore the roots of emotional suffering for mothers, especially in life's toughest seasons. Together, they bust the myth that overwhelm, anxiety, and guilt are caused by what’s happening outside of us, and instead reveal how our thoughts—and the judgments stacked on top of them—create our hardest moments.</p>
<p>Jody Moore shares how practicing self-compassion, curiosity, and letting go of perfectionism transformed her experience as a mother, coach, and woman. She explains why striving to be a “good mom” can be counterproductive, and why embracing your “world’s okayest mom” moments might be exactly what you and your kids need.</p>
<p>You'll hear real stories from Elle about navigating complicated grief, her early struggles with self-judgment, and how thought awareness opened the door to healing. Jody dives into practical concepts—from emotional adulthood and curiosity in hard conversations, to the power of raising your “minimum baseline” and owning your choice to stay connected, even when you want to quit.</p>
<p>This episode is a compassionate guide to befriending your emotions, shedding unnecessary suffering, and building stronger relationships—starting with the one you have with yourself.</p>
<p>Timestamps</p>
<p>00:00:00 - Emotions driven by self-compassion.</p>
<p>00:03:00 - Podcast helps mothers in grief.</p>
<p>00:07:00 - Overwhelm comes from our thoughts.</p>
<p>00:12:00 - Handling teen anxiety with validation.</p>
<p>00:16:00 - Bad days versus rough seasons.</p>
<p>00:21:00 - Celebrating "okayest mom" mindset.</p>
<p>00:27:00 - Set practical minimum baselines.</p>
<p>00:33:00 - Moments of connection over work.</p>
<p>00:40:00 - Embracing compassion and self-acceptance.</p>
<p>01:07:00 - Aspirations for matriarch phase.</p>
<p>Episode Links: 
Jody's Website - https://jodymoore.com/</p>
<p>Down The Well Links:</p>
<p>Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley</p>
<p>Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley</p>
<p>Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop</p>
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<p>About Down The Well:</p>
<p>Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.</p>
<p>Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>5 Unexpected Lessons From 3 Divine Mothers</title>
      <description>Sz 2 Ep 13 | What if the true power of motherhood isn’t just surviving the day-to-day—but embracing the descent, the grief, and the transformation that follows?

In this solo episode, Elle Rowley invites you to journey down the well of motherhood’s deepest myths, drawing wisdom from three iconic divine mothers: Mary (the mother of Christ), Demeter (Greek goddess), and Isis (Egyptian goddess). Through story and reflection, Elle reframes the narrative that so often reduces motherhood to mere busyness and duty, showing how our real growth comes when we allow ourselves to descend into uncertainty, pain, and mystery.

This is not an episode about sugarcoating the hard parts of mothering. It’s about recognizing the sacredness of our struggle—the cycles of descent and rising, grief and renewal. Elle highlights five powerful lessons for mothers everywhere:

Lesson 1: The mother brings forth the bridge between worlds

Lesson 2: The mother must descend

Lesson 3: Descent awakens the fierce mother

Lesson 4: Death, loss, and the rhythm of return

Lesson 5: Through suffering, the mother reshapes the world.

Share this episode with a mother who may need it, and join the movement to reclaim an empowering, truthful narrative of motherhood.

﻿﻿﻿Timestamps:﻿

00:00:00 – Descent Is Part Path

00:00:49 – Memorable Thanksgiving Recap

00:02:30 – Purpose: Mothers’ Transformation

00:04:31 – Mary’s Hero’s Journey

00:06:57 – Demeter: Mother’s Grief

00:10:55 – Isis: Restoration After Loss

00:13:47 – Five Lessons from Myths00:22:14 – Embracing Motherhood’s Seasons﻿﻿

Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack – https://substack.com/@ellerowley

Elle's Instagram – instagram.com/ellerowley

Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop﻿﻿

About Down The Well: Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2025 16:09:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Elle Rowley</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Sz 2 Ep 13 | What if the true power of motherhood isn’t just surviving the day-to-day—but embracing the descent, the grief, and the transformation that follows?

In this solo episode, Elle Rowley invites you to journey down the well of motherhood’s deepest myths, drawing wisdom from three iconic divine mothers: Mary (the mother of Christ), Demeter (Greek goddess), and Isis (Egyptian goddess). Through story and reflection, Elle reframes the narrative that so often reduces motherhood to mere busyness and duty, showing how our real growth comes when we allow ourselves to descend into uncertainty, pain, and mystery.

This is not an episode about sugarcoating the hard parts of mothering. It’s about recognizing the sacredness of our struggle—the cycles of descent and rising, grief and renewal. Elle highlights five powerful lessons for mothers everywhere:

Lesson 1: The mother brings forth the bridge between worlds

Lesson 2: The mother must descend

Lesson 3: Descent awakens the fierce mother

Lesson 4: Death, loss, and the rhythm of return

Lesson 5: Through suffering, the mother reshapes the world.

Share this episode with a mother who may need it, and join the movement to reclaim an empowering, truthful narrative of motherhood.

﻿﻿﻿Timestamps:﻿

00:00:00 – Descent Is Part Path

00:00:49 – Memorable Thanksgiving Recap

00:02:30 – Purpose: Mothers’ Transformation

00:04:31 – Mary’s Hero’s Journey

00:06:57 – Demeter: Mother’s Grief

00:10:55 – Isis: Restoration After Loss

00:13:47 – Five Lessons from Myths00:22:14 – Embracing Motherhood’s Seasons﻿﻿

Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack – https://substack.com/@ellerowley

Elle's Instagram – instagram.com/ellerowley

Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop﻿﻿

About Down The Well: Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sz 2 Ep 13 | What if the true power of motherhood isn’t just surviving the day-to-day—but embracing the descent, the grief, and the transformation that follows?</p>
<p>In this solo episode, Elle Rowley invites you to journey down the well of motherhood’s deepest myths, drawing wisdom from three iconic divine mothers: Mary (the mother of Christ), Demeter (Greek goddess), and Isis (Egyptian goddess). Through story and reflection, Elle reframes the narrative that so often reduces motherhood to mere busyness and duty, showing how our real growth comes when we allow ourselves to descend into uncertainty, pain, and mystery.</p>
<p>This is not an episode about sugarcoating the hard parts of mothering. It’s about recognizing the sacredness of our struggle—the cycles of descent and rising, grief and renewal. Elle highlights five powerful lessons for mothers everywhere:</p>
<p>Lesson 1: The mother brings forth the bridge between worlds</p>
<p>Lesson 2: The mother must descend</p>
<p>Lesson 3: Descent awakens the fierce mother</p>
<p>Lesson 4: Death, loss, and the rhythm of return</p>
<p>Lesson 5: Through suffering, the mother reshapes the world.</p>
<p>Share this episode with a mother who may need it, and join the movement to reclaim an empowering, truthful narrative of motherhood.</p>
<p>﻿﻿﻿Timestamps:﻿</p>
<p>00:00:00 – Descent Is Part Path</p>
<p>00:00:49 – Memorable Thanksgiving Recap</p>
<p>00:02:30 – Purpose: Mothers’ Transformation</p>
<p>00:04:31 – Mary’s Hero’s Journey</p>
<p>00:06:57 – Demeter: Mother’s Grief</p>
<p>00:10:55 – Isis: Restoration After Loss</p>
<p>00:13:47 – Five Lessons from Myths00:22:14 – Embracing Motherhood’s Seasons﻿﻿</p>
<p>Down The Well Links:</p>
<p>Elle's Substack – https://substack.com/@ellerowley</p>
<p>Elle's Instagram – instagram.com/ellerowley</p>
<p>Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop﻿﻿</p>
<p>About Down The Well: Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.</p>
<p>Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Nurturing Outside of the Box: A Life Dedicated to Service | Yvonne Sinclair</title>
      <description>Szn 2 Ep 12 | What happens when the life you imagined disappears—and you say yes to what’s next, one small step at a time?

In this deeply moving Portrait of a Matriarch episode, Elle sits down with Yvonne Sinclair, founder of Naru in Guatemala, whose story is part adventure, part quiet revolution. 

Yvonne’s life began in London’s marketing world, where stability looked perfect from the outside. But when her family life didn’t unfold as planned, she found herself stepping into the unknown—first through solo travel in Egypt, and then, unexpectedly, in the rural mountains of Guatemala.

What started as a six-month commitment to help coffee workers became over two decades of living amidst cloud forests, serving thousands of malnourished children, and building bridges between worlds. Yvonne and Elle unpack the inner and outer journeys: from crafting an “escape bottom drawer” to discovering true purpose through service, simplicity, and relentless pragmatism. They discuss finding “enough,” releasing self-judgment, and the freedom that comes with aging and letting go.

This episode is about transformation—not by grand design, but by answering one ordinary yes after another. You’ll hear about the joys and heartbreaks of living and working in remote Guatemala, the realities of sustainable change, and the deep meaning that comes from steady, grounded leadership.

Whether you’re in the midst of personal loss, stuck in the waiting, or longing for purpose in unexpected places, Yvonne’s story will both comfort and challenge you.



Timestamps:

00:00:51 – Episode Introduction 

00:04:14 – The Turning Point 

00:07:23 – Arriving in Guatemala

00:11:21 – Yvonne's Hero’s Journey 

00:18:23 – Why Guatemala?

00:21:34 – The Malnourished Children 

00:28:50 – Life in Guatemala 

00:50:59 – The Wisdom of Enough 


Episode Links: 

Naru Guatemala's Website: https://naruguatemala.org/

Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop



Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley  

Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

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About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own souls. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2025 12:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Elle Rowley</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/fe94ecd4-cb2e-11f0-91b8-bbe01bca7eb1/image/414116c8470a636f8ae22000c2b63fcd.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Szn 2 Ep 12 | What happens when the life you imagined disappears—and you say yes to what’s next, one small step at a time?

In this deeply moving Portrait of a Matriarch episode, Elle sits down with Yvonne Sinclair, founder of Naru in Guatemala, whose story is part adventure, part quiet revolution. 

Yvonne’s life began in London’s marketing world, where stability looked perfect from the outside. But when her family life didn’t unfold as planned, she found herself stepping into the unknown—first through solo travel in Egypt, and then, unexpectedly, in the rural mountains of Guatemala.

What started as a six-month commitment to help coffee workers became over two decades of living amidst cloud forests, serving thousands of malnourished children, and building bridges between worlds. Yvonne and Elle unpack the inner and outer journeys: from crafting an “escape bottom drawer” to discovering true purpose through service, simplicity, and relentless pragmatism. They discuss finding “enough,” releasing self-judgment, and the freedom that comes with aging and letting go.

This episode is about transformation—not by grand design, but by answering one ordinary yes after another. You’ll hear about the joys and heartbreaks of living and working in remote Guatemala, the realities of sustainable change, and the deep meaning that comes from steady, grounded leadership.

Whether you’re in the midst of personal loss, stuck in the waiting, or longing for purpose in unexpected places, Yvonne’s story will both comfort and challenge you.



Timestamps:

00:00:51 – Episode Introduction 

00:04:14 – The Turning Point 

00:07:23 – Arriving in Guatemala

00:11:21 – Yvonne's Hero’s Journey 

00:18:23 – Why Guatemala?

00:21:34 – The Malnourished Children 

00:28:50 – Life in Guatemala 

00:50:59 – The Wisdom of Enough 


Episode Links: 

Naru Guatemala's Website: https://naruguatemala.org/

Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop



Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley  

Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

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About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own souls. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Szn 2 Ep 12 | What happens when the life you imagined disappears—and you say yes to what’s next, one small step at a time?</p>
<p>In this deeply moving Portrait of a Matriarch episode, Elle sits down with Yvonne Sinclair, founder of Naru in Guatemala, whose story is part adventure, part quiet revolution. </p>
<p>Yvonne’s life began in London’s marketing world, where stability looked perfect from the outside. But when her family life didn’t unfold as planned, she found herself stepping into the unknown—first through solo travel in Egypt, and then, unexpectedly, in the rural mountains of Guatemala.</p>
<p>What started as a six-month commitment to help coffee workers became over two decades of living amidst cloud forests, serving thousands of malnourished children, and building bridges between worlds. Yvonne and Elle unpack the inner and outer journeys: from crafting an “escape bottom drawer” to discovering true purpose through service, simplicity, and relentless pragmatism. They discuss finding “enough,” releasing self-judgment, and the freedom that comes with aging and letting go.</p>
<p>This episode is about transformation—not by grand design, but by answering one ordinary yes after another. You’ll hear about the joys and heartbreaks of living and working in remote Guatemala, the realities of sustainable change, and the deep meaning that comes from steady, grounded leadership.</p>
<p>Whether you’re in the midst of personal loss, stuck in the waiting, or longing for purpose in unexpected places, Yvonne’s story will both comfort and challenge you.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Timestamps:</p>
<p>00:00:51 – Episode Introduction </p>
<p>00:04:14 – The Turning Point </p>
<p>00:07:23 – Arriving in Guatemala</p>
<p>00:11:21 – Yvonne's Hero’s Journey </p>
<p>00:18:23 – Why Guatemala?</p>
<p>00:21:34 – The Malnourished Children </p>
<p>00:28:50 – Life in Guatemala </p>
<p>00:50:59 – The Wisdom of Enough </p>
<p>
Episode Links: </p>
<p>Naru Guatemala's Website: https://naruguatemala.org/</p>
<p>Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Down The Well Links:</p>
<p>Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley  </p>
<p>Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley</p>
<p>-----</p>
<p>About Down The Well:</p>
<p>Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.</p>
<p>Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own souls. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Becoming the Matriarch: Finding Your Joy in a New Era with Bev Aron</title>
      <description>Szn 2 Ep 11 | What if the next era of womanhood is actually the most powerful, joyful, and creative of all?

In this heartfelt conversation, host Elle Rowley sits down with master coach Bev Aron to reimagine what it means to become the matriarch—not a martyr, but a woman rooted in wisdom, joy, and unwavering self-trust. Together, they explore how motherhood can be a journey of deep healing, not just for ourselves, but across generations.

Bev Aron shares how her work as a coach was born out of her own transformation through motherhood, and why awareness—being a gentle observer of our own emotions—is the key to unlocking lasting change. From moving through overwhelm as a mom, to finally letting go of guilt and old patterns, Bev offers tangible practices to connect with your body, process emotions, and rediscover your light.

This isn’t about having it all together. It’s about uncovering the joy and boldness that’s been inside you all along, no matter what age or stage you’re in. You’ll hear real talk about breaking cycles of self-judgment, tending to your own joy, outgrowing the need for outside validation, and embracing the creative possibilities that midlife brings.

Timestamps:
00:02:25 – Motherhood sparked Bev’s self-discovery journey
00:06:26 – “Awareness is the portal to transformation”
00:09:39 – Generational healing begins with nurturing ourselves
00:11:04 – Layered healing brings natural joy, lightness
00:16:07 – "No thought police" means total mental freedom
00:17:16 – Bev embraces role as family matriarch
00:26:01 – Transition from active parenting to flexible support
00:43:08 – "Too late" is the most common limiting belief

No matter what chapter of life you're in, this episode is a loving invitation to become the matriarch of your own life—full of possibility, light, and self-compassion.

Show Links: 
Bev Aron's Deep Dive Coach Institute: http://bevaron.com/
Bev's daughter's blog on parenting books: https://myparentingpearls.wordpress.com/?fbclid=PAdGRleAMttQZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABpy7SZqFRmz5p7pwVgXGvUlemZ1rAnr87MK_uYYx_-YfkgnuR4P_2FhmwMpE8_aem_MVa-0829NZpurW6eVtJj8Q

Down The Well Links:
Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley
Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley
Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

—

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2025 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Elle Rowley</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Szn 2 Ep 11 | What if the next era of womanhood is actually the most powerful, joyful, and creative of all?

In this heartfelt conversation, host Elle Rowley sits down with master coach Bev Aron to reimagine what it means to become the matriarch—not a martyr, but a woman rooted in wisdom, joy, and unwavering self-trust. Together, they explore how motherhood can be a journey of deep healing, not just for ourselves, but across generations.

Bev Aron shares how her work as a coach was born out of her own transformation through motherhood, and why awareness—being a gentle observer of our own emotions—is the key to unlocking lasting change. From moving through overwhelm as a mom, to finally letting go of guilt and old patterns, Bev offers tangible practices to connect with your body, process emotions, and rediscover your light.

This isn’t about having it all together. It’s about uncovering the joy and boldness that’s been inside you all along, no matter what age or stage you’re in. You’ll hear real talk about breaking cycles of self-judgment, tending to your own joy, outgrowing the need for outside validation, and embracing the creative possibilities that midlife brings.

Timestamps:
00:02:25 – Motherhood sparked Bev’s self-discovery journey
00:06:26 – “Awareness is the portal to transformation”
00:09:39 – Generational healing begins with nurturing ourselves
00:11:04 – Layered healing brings natural joy, lightness
00:16:07 – "No thought police" means total mental freedom
00:17:16 – Bev embraces role as family matriarch
00:26:01 – Transition from active parenting to flexible support
00:43:08 – "Too late" is the most common limiting belief

No matter what chapter of life you're in, this episode is a loving invitation to become the matriarch of your own life—full of possibility, light, and self-compassion.

Show Links: 
Bev Aron's Deep Dive Coach Institute: http://bevaron.com/
Bev's daughter's blog on parenting books: https://myparentingpearls.wordpress.com/?fbclid=PAdGRleAMttQZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABpy7SZqFRmz5p7pwVgXGvUlemZ1rAnr87MK_uYYx_-YfkgnuR4P_2FhmwMpE8_aem_MVa-0829NZpurW6eVtJj8Q

Down The Well Links:
Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley
Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley
Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

—

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Szn 2 Ep 11 | What if the next era of womanhood is actually the most powerful, joyful, and creative of all?

In this heartfelt conversation, host Elle Rowley sits down with master coach Bev Aron to reimagine what it means to become the matriarch—not a martyr, but a woman rooted in wisdom, joy, and unwavering self-trust. Together, they explore how motherhood can be a journey of deep healing, not just for ourselves, but across generations.

Bev Aron shares how her work as a coach was born out of her own transformation through motherhood, and why awareness—being a gentle observer of our own emotions—is the key to unlocking lasting change. From moving through overwhelm as a mom, to finally letting go of guilt and old patterns, Bev offers tangible practices to connect with your body, process emotions, and rediscover your light.

This isn’t about having it all together. It’s about uncovering the joy and boldness that’s been inside you all along, no matter what age or stage you’re in. You’ll hear real talk about breaking cycles of self-judgment, tending to your own joy, outgrowing the need for outside validation, and embracing the creative possibilities that midlife brings.

Timestamps:
00:02:25 – Motherhood sparked Bev’s self-discovery journey
00:06:26 – “Awareness is the portal to transformation”
00:09:39 – Generational healing begins with nurturing ourselves
00:11:04 – Layered healing brings natural joy, lightness
00:16:07 – "No thought police" means total mental freedom
00:17:16 – Bev embraces role as family matriarch
00:26:01 – Transition from active parenting to flexible support
00:43:08 – "Too late" is the most common limiting belief

No matter what chapter of life you're in, this episode is a loving invitation to become the matriarch of your own life—full of possibility, light, and self-compassion.

Show Links: 
Bev Aron's Deep Dive Coach Institute: http://bevaron.com/
Bev's daughter's blog on parenting books: https://myparentingpearls.wordpress.com/?fbclid=PAdGRleAMttQZleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABpy7SZqFRmz5p7pwVgXGvUlemZ1rAnr87MK_uYYx_-YfkgnuR4P_2FhmwMpE8_aem_MVa-0829NZpurW6eVtJj8Q

Down The Well Links:
Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley
Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley
Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee - https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

—

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>What Ancient Greece Teaches Us About Making Home a Refuge</title>
      <description>Sz 2 Ep 10 | What if the greatest act of heroism isn't conquering the world—but creating a home worth returning to?

Elle explores the ancient art of homemaking as sacred work. Drawing from Homer's Odyssey, the Hero's Journey, and hospitality traditions spanning Greek xenia to Japanese omotenashi, she reveals how mothers and matriarchs don't just decorate spaces—they shape culture itself.

Elle breaks down six powerful elements of creating refuge: rhythm, presence, peace, cultivation, welcome, and spirit. Through personal stories—from her grandparents' healing weekly routines to a friend's mother finding peace while caring for a non-verbal son—she shows how the work of tending a home ripples outward to repair the world.This isn't about Pinterest perfection. It's about meaning-making in a distracted world.

Timestamps:

00:00 - Home as sacred act

02:33 - The Odyssey and xenia05:35 - Mother vs. Matriarch archetypes

10:41 - Element #1: Rhythm

13:45 - Element #2: Presence

16:19 - Element #3: Peace

20:22 - Element #4: Cultivation

23:25 - Element #5: Welcome

30:32 - Element #6: Spirit

34:09 - Closing thoughts



Show links: 

Wall Street Journal / Wealthy Family Mission Statements / https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/wealthy-family-mission-statements-e08faabd?g[…]SW0O3ESdqHJbt2aaLeE01RCfIa0rUvSg7rl36cN69DHoBl2ARVmr2ySQQ%3D%3D

Systematic Review: Routines and Child Development / https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jftr.12549?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Down The Well Links:

Check out Down The Well on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well

Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley

Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee" https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

-----

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2025 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>What Ancient Greece Teaches Us About Making Home a Refuge</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Elle Rowley</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Sz 2 Ep 10 | What if the greatest act of heroism isn't conquering the world—but creating a home worth returning to?

Elle explores the ancient art of homemaking as sacred work. Drawing from Homer's Odyssey, the Hero's Journey, and hospitality traditions spanning Greek xenia to Japanese omotenashi, she reveals how mothers and matriarchs don't just decorate spaces—they shape culture itself.

Elle breaks down six powerful elements of creating refuge: rhythm, presence, peace, cultivation, welcome, and spirit. Through personal stories—from her grandparents' healing weekly routines to a friend's mother finding peace while caring for a non-verbal son—she shows how the work of tending a home ripples outward to repair the world.This isn't about Pinterest perfection. It's about meaning-making in a distracted world.

Timestamps:

00:00 - Home as sacred act

02:33 - The Odyssey and xenia05:35 - Mother vs. Matriarch archetypes

10:41 - Element #1: Rhythm

13:45 - Element #2: Presence

16:19 - Element #3: Peace

20:22 - Element #4: Cultivation

23:25 - Element #5: Welcome

30:32 - Element #6: Spirit

34:09 - Closing thoughts



Show links: 

Wall Street Journal / Wealthy Family Mission Statements / https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/wealthy-family-mission-statements-e08faabd?g[…]SW0O3ESdqHJbt2aaLeE01RCfIa0rUvSg7rl36cN69DHoBl2ARVmr2ySQQ%3D%3D

Systematic Review: Routines and Child Development / https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jftr.12549?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Down The Well Links:

Check out Down The Well on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well

Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley

Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee" https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop

-----

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sz 2 Ep 10 | What if the greatest act of heroism isn't conquering the world—but creating a home worth returning to?</p>
<p>Elle explores the ancient art of homemaking as sacred work. Drawing from Homer's Odyssey, the Hero's Journey, and hospitality traditions spanning Greek xenia to Japanese omotenashi, she reveals how mothers and matriarchs don't just decorate spaces—they shape culture itself.</p>
<p>Elle breaks down six powerful elements of creating refuge: rhythm, presence, peace, cultivation, welcome, and spirit. Through personal stories—from her grandparents' healing weekly routines to a friend's mother finding peace while caring for a non-verbal son—she shows how the work of tending a home ripples outward to repair the world.This isn't about Pinterest perfection. It's about meaning-making in a distracted world.</p>
<p>Timestamps:</p>
<p>00:00 - Home as sacred act</p>
<p>02:33 - The Odyssey and xenia05:35 - Mother vs. Matriarch archetypes</p>
<p>10:41 - Element #1: Rhythm</p>
<p>13:45 - Element #2: Presence</p>
<p>16:19 - Element #3: Peace</p>
<p>20:22 - Element #4: Cultivation</p>
<p>23:25 - Element #5: Welcome</p>
<p>30:32 - Element #6: Spirit</p>
<p>34:09 - Closing thoughts</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Show links: </p>
<p>Wall Street Journal / Wealthy Family Mission Statements / <a href="https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/wealthy-family-mission-statements-e08faabd?gaa_at=eafs&amp;gaa_n=AWEtsqeMlEqGsBc4ykQ7A2YbE2KRIgluuvXALz-MnRTmSIgn8JzXeVIq9sVG0Km8vCY%3D&amp;gaa_ts=69090ac1&amp;gaa_sig=EFWHwsvamfnZaCflFjczPsgMViZjTSW0O3ESdqHJbt2aaLeE01RCfIa0rUvSg7rl36cN69DHoBl2ARVmr2ySQQ%3D%3D">https://www.wsj.com/finance/investing/wealthy-family-mission-statements-e08faabd?g[…]SW0O3ESdqHJbt2aaLeE01RCfIa0rUvSg7rl36cN69DHoBl2ARVmr2ySQQ%3D%3D</a></p>
<p>Systematic Review: <em>Routines and Child Development / </em><a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jftr.12549?utm_source=chatgpt.com">https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jftr.12549?utm_source=chatgpt.com</a><br></p>
<p>Down The Well Links:</p>
<p>Check out Down The Well on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well</p>
<p>Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley</p>
<p>Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley</p>
<p>Support families in Guatemala by purchasing a 'World Peace Begins at Home' tee" <a href="https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop">https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop</a></p>
<p>-----</p>
<p>About Down The Well:</p>
<p>Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.</p>
<p>Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Why Moms Feel Bad About Feeling Bad (And How to Stop)</title>
      <description>Sz 2 Ep 9 | What if the hardest part of motherhood isn't the emotion itself—but what we do to ourselves after we feel it?

In this solo episode, Elle unpacks one of the most invisible sources of suffering in motherhood: the pattern of feeling bad about feeling bad. She reveals how we take a natural human emotion—frustration, sadness, overwhelm—and then bury ourselves under layers of guilt, shame, and judgment.

This isn't about toxic positivity or pretending hard emotions don't exist. It's about learning to recognize when we're digging ourselves deeper into the well... and how to stop.

Elle shares personal stories from her early motherhood, a powerful moment teaching emotional skills to young girls, and a real coaching example that shows how one woman's "mess in every area" was actually just one emotion hiding under a mountain of self-judgment.

You'll walk away with a simple three-step practice to drop the unnecessary suffering and befriend the emotions that actually hold the key to your growth.



Timestamps:

01:34 - Feeling bad about feeling bad

04:37 - Primary vs. secondary emotions

06:39 - Something is wrong with me

07:40 - The three-step practice

10:43 - Case study: Coaching a friend

12:45 - Befriending your emotions



Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley

Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

-----

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2025 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Elle Rowley</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/33dedbe2-b90b-11f0-b045-8b31b70360e0/image/414116c8470a636f8ae22000c2b63fcd.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Sz 2 Ep 9 | What if the hardest part of motherhood isn't the emotion itself—but what we do to ourselves after we feel it?

In this solo episode, Elle unpacks one of the most invisible sources of suffering in motherhood: the pattern of feeling bad about feeling bad. She reveals how we take a natural human emotion—frustration, sadness, overwhelm—and then bury ourselves under layers of guilt, shame, and judgment.

This isn't about toxic positivity or pretending hard emotions don't exist. It's about learning to recognize when we're digging ourselves deeper into the well... and how to stop.

Elle shares personal stories from her early motherhood, a powerful moment teaching emotional skills to young girls, and a real coaching example that shows how one woman's "mess in every area" was actually just one emotion hiding under a mountain of self-judgment.

You'll walk away with a simple three-step practice to drop the unnecessary suffering and befriend the emotions that actually hold the key to your growth.



Timestamps:

01:34 - Feeling bad about feeling bad

04:37 - Primary vs. secondary emotions

06:39 - Something is wrong with me

07:40 - The three-step practice

10:43 - Case study: Coaching a friend

12:45 - Befriending your emotions



Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley

Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

-----

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Sz 2 Ep 9 | What if the hardest part of motherhood isn't the emotion itself—but what we do to ourselves after we feel it?</p>
<p>In this solo episode, Elle unpacks one of the most invisible sources of suffering in motherhood: the pattern of feeling bad about feeling bad. She reveals how we take a natural human emotion—frustration, sadness, overwhelm—and then bury ourselves under layers of guilt, shame, and judgment.</p>
<p>This isn't about toxic positivity or pretending hard emotions don't exist. It's about learning to recognize when we're digging ourselves deeper into the well... and how to stop.</p>
<p>Elle shares personal stories from her early motherhood, a powerful moment teaching emotional skills to young girls, and a real coaching example that shows how one woman's "mess in every area" was actually just one emotion hiding under a mountain of self-judgment.</p>
<p>You'll walk away with a simple three-step practice to drop the unnecessary suffering and befriend the emotions that actually hold the key to your growth.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Timestamps:</p>
<p>01:34 - Feeling bad about feeling bad</p>
<p>04:37 - Primary vs. secondary emotions</p>
<p>06:39 - Something is wrong with me</p>
<p>07:40 - The three-step practice</p>
<p>10:43 - Case study: Coaching a friend</p>
<p>12:45 - Befriending your emotions</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Down The Well Links:</p>
<p>Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley</p>
<p>Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley</p>
<p>-----</p>
<p>About Down The Well:</p>
<p>Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.</p>
<p>Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Why Moms Miss Their Own Joy—and How to Get It Back</title>
      <description>Sz 2 Ep 8 | Elle invites us to pause... to breathe... to stay for the exhale.

As the leaves turn and the holidays begin, she explores a deceptively simple yet profound concept: truly experiencing the moments we create. It's not about doing more—it's about being more present in what we're already doing.

Elle shares her journey from frantic holiday-maker to intentional memory-creator, offering a mini masterclass in emotional presence. She challenges us: Are we confusing participation with presence? Are we unconsciously fleeing from joy?

From yoga mats to dinner tables, Elle provides practical wisdom for savoring life's exhales. It's time to linger, to ask one more question, to offer our full gaze.

This isn't just about slowing down—it's about showing up fully for the life we're living.

🍂 Ready to transform your fall from frantic to fulfilling? Listen now.

Timestamps:

00:00 - Fall reflections and the nurturer's season

04:06 - The "stay for the exhale" revelation

09:44 - Embracing the matriarch's wisdom

12:17 - The surprising challenge of tolerating joy

17:22 - Practical ways to linger in life's moments



Down The Well Links:
• YouTube Channel: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN6YKPAhI1Rstsc4dT2N86w⁠
• Elle's Substack: https://substack.com/@ellerowley
• Elle's Instagram: instagram.com/ellerowley



About Down The Well:
Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
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      <itunes:author>Elle Rowley</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Sz 2 Ep 8 | Elle invites us to pause... to breathe... to stay for the exhale.

As the leaves turn and the holidays begin, she explores a deceptively simple yet profound concept: truly experiencing the moments we create. It's not about doing more—it's about being more present in what we're already doing.

Elle shares her journey from frantic holiday-maker to intentional memory-creator, offering a mini masterclass in emotional presence. She challenges us: Are we confusing participation with presence? Are we unconsciously fleeing from joy?

From yoga mats to dinner tables, Elle provides practical wisdom for savoring life's exhales. It's time to linger, to ask one more question, to offer our full gaze.

This isn't just about slowing down—it's about showing up fully for the life we're living.

🍂 Ready to transform your fall from frantic to fulfilling? Listen now.

Timestamps:

00:00 - Fall reflections and the nurturer's season

04:06 - The "stay for the exhale" revelation

09:44 - Embracing the matriarch's wisdom

12:17 - The surprising challenge of tolerating joy

17:22 - Practical ways to linger in life's moments



Down The Well Links:
• YouTube Channel: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN6YKPAhI1Rstsc4dT2N86w⁠
• Elle's Substack: https://substack.com/@ellerowley
• Elle's Instagram: instagram.com/ellerowley



About Down The Well:
Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sz 2 Ep 8 | Elle invites us to pause... to breathe... to stay for the exhale.</p>
<p>As the leaves turn and the holidays begin, she explores a deceptively simple yet profound concept: truly experiencing the moments we create. It's not about doing more—it's about being more present in what we're already doing.</p>
<p>Elle shares her journey from frantic holiday-maker to intentional memory-creator, offering a mini masterclass in emotional presence. She challenges us: Are we confusing participation with presence? Are we unconsciously fleeing from joy?</p>
<p>From yoga mats to dinner tables, Elle provides practical wisdom for savoring life's exhales. It's time to linger, to ask one more question, to offer our full gaze.</p>
<p>This isn't just about slowing down—it's about showing up fully for the life we're living.</p>
<p>🍂 Ready to transform your fall from frantic to fulfilling? Listen now.</p>
<p>Timestamps:</p>
<p>00:00 - Fall reflections and the nurturer's season</p>
<p>04:06 - The "stay for the exhale" revelation</p>
<p>09:44 - Embracing the matriarch's wisdom</p>
<p>12:17 - The surprising challenge of tolerating joy</p>
<p>17:22 - Practical ways to linger in life's moments</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Down The Well Links:
• YouTube Channel: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN6YKPAhI1Rstsc4dT2N86w⁠
• Elle's Substack: https://substack.com/@ellerowley
• Elle's Instagram: instagram.com/ellerowley</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>About Down The Well:
Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Replenish Your Well: Waking Up to The Need for Authentic Friendships in Motherhood | Andrea Faulkner Williams</title>
      <description>Sz 2 Ep 8 | Elle sits down with her longtime friend and fellow entrepreneur, Andrea Faulkner Williams, to share real and heartfelt reflections on nurturing friendship through the busyness of motherhood.



Ever felt like you're drowning in the demands of life? You're not alone.

Elle and Andrea share raw, honest truths about:

• The tender challenges that shape motherhood

• Keeping friendships strong when life feels busy

• Championing each other's dreams

• Turning comparison into inspiration

Take a moment to laugh and cry along with Elle and Andrea as they show you the positive difference friendship can make in motherhood.

🔔 Subscribe for more soul-nourishing conversations that remind you: You're not alone in this beautiful mess of motherhood and life.

💬 Comment below: In what was is friendship a lifeline for you?

﻿

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro: First in-person podcast with Andrea

5:40 Motherhood: The most challenging job ever

11:16 Friendship challenges in adulthood and mothering

19:56 Non-comparative support in friendships

25:43 Handling emotional mismatch in friendships

31:25 How to be a good friend

37:05 Creating a joy list for happiness

42:38 Championing each other's callings and dreams

49:26 Rapid-fire questions about their friendship

55:54 Dealing with insecurities and teen gossip

59:19 Closing thoughts and appreciation﻿



Show Links:﻿Andrea's Instagram: ﻿﻿https://www.instagram.com/andreafaulknerwilliams/?hl=en﻿

Tubby Todd: ﻿https://tubbytodd.com/?brand_general&amp;tw_source=google&amp;tw_adid=764490404375&amp;tw_campaign=22807709662&amp;t...﻿

Solly Baby: ⁠https://sollybaby.com/collections/wraps?wickedsource=google&amp;wickedid=CjwKCAjwu9fHBhAWEiwAzGRC_7SVVjW...

"Present over Perfect" by Shauna Niequist

"What in the World?" by Leanne Morgan﻿

Down The Well Links:

YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN6Y...﻿

Elle's Substack: ﻿https://substack.com/@ellerowley﻿

Elle's Instagram: ﻿instagram.com/ellerowley

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley explores the mother's hero's journey—a path different from what you've read in books. It's a descent into the soul, where transformation is inevitable. Let's ensure it's for the better.﻿
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Elle Rowley</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Sz 2 Ep 8 | Elle sits down with her longtime friend and fellow entrepreneur, Andrea Faulkner Williams, to share real and heartfelt reflections on nurturing friendship through the busyness of motherhood.



Ever felt like you're drowning in the demands of life? You're not alone.

Elle and Andrea share raw, honest truths about:

• The tender challenges that shape motherhood

• Keeping friendships strong when life feels busy

• Championing each other's dreams

• Turning comparison into inspiration

Take a moment to laugh and cry along with Elle and Andrea as they show you the positive difference friendship can make in motherhood.

🔔 Subscribe for more soul-nourishing conversations that remind you: You're not alone in this beautiful mess of motherhood and life.

💬 Comment below: In what was is friendship a lifeline for you?

﻿

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro: First in-person podcast with Andrea

5:40 Motherhood: The most challenging job ever

11:16 Friendship challenges in adulthood and mothering

19:56 Non-comparative support in friendships

25:43 Handling emotional mismatch in friendships

31:25 How to be a good friend

37:05 Creating a joy list for happiness

42:38 Championing each other's callings and dreams

49:26 Rapid-fire questions about their friendship

55:54 Dealing with insecurities and teen gossip

59:19 Closing thoughts and appreciation﻿



Show Links:﻿Andrea's Instagram: ﻿﻿https://www.instagram.com/andreafaulknerwilliams/?hl=en﻿

Tubby Todd: ﻿https://tubbytodd.com/?brand_general&amp;tw_source=google&amp;tw_adid=764490404375&amp;tw_campaign=22807709662&amp;t...﻿

Solly Baby: ⁠https://sollybaby.com/collections/wraps?wickedsource=google&amp;wickedid=CjwKCAjwu9fHBhAWEiwAzGRC_7SVVjW...

"Present over Perfect" by Shauna Niequist

"What in the World?" by Leanne Morgan﻿

Down The Well Links:

YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN6Y...﻿

Elle's Substack: ﻿https://substack.com/@ellerowley﻿

Elle's Instagram: ﻿instagram.com/ellerowley

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley explores the mother's hero's journey—a path different from what you've read in books. It's a descent into the soul, where transformation is inevitable. Let's ensure it's for the better.﻿
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sz 2 Ep 8 | Elle sits down with her longtime friend and fellow entrepreneur, Andrea Faulkner Williams, to share real and heartfelt reflections on nurturing friendship through the busyness of motherhood.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Ever felt like you're drowning in the demands of life? You're not alone.</p>
<p>Elle and Andrea share raw, honest truths about:</p>
<p>• The tender challenges that shape motherhood</p>
<p>• Keeping friendships strong when life feels busy</p>
<p>• Championing each other's dreams</p>
<p>• Turning comparison into inspiration</p>
<p>Take a moment to laugh and cry along with Elle and Andrea as they show you the positive difference friendship can make in motherhood.</p>
<p>🔔 Subscribe for more soul-nourishing conversations that remind you: You're not alone in this beautiful mess of motherhood and life.</p>
<p>💬 Comment below: In what was is friendship a lifeline for you?</p>
<p>﻿</p>
<p>Timestamps:</p>
<p>0:00 Intro: First in-person podcast with Andrea</p>
<p>5:40 Motherhood: The most challenging job ever</p>
<p>11:16 Friendship challenges in adulthood and mothering</p>
<p>19:56 Non-comparative support in friendships</p>
<p>25:43 Handling emotional mismatch in friendships</p>
<p>31:25 How to be a good friend</p>
<p>37:05 Creating a joy list for happiness</p>
<p>42:38 Championing each other's callings and dreams</p>
<p>49:26 Rapid-fire questions about their friendship</p>
<p>55:54 Dealing with insecurities and teen gossip</p>
<p>59:19 Closing thoughts and appreciation﻿</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Show Links:<br>﻿Andrea's Instagram: ﻿﻿<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreafaulknerwilliams/?hl=en">https://www.instagram.com/andreafaulknerwilliams/?hl=en</a>﻿</p>
<p>Tubby Todd: ﻿<a href="https://tubbytodd.com/?brand_general&amp;tw_source=google&amp;tw_adid=764490404375&amp;tw_campaign=22807709662&amp;tw_kwdid=kwd-406157361244&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=22807709662&amp;gbraid=0AAAAADp17-KiJ_7ONRa2TJgh1j3osuVSf&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwu9fHBhAWEiwAzGRC__h0X47BRNzjYcSuXmDkIIu2ZN3Ut59AXJGsDcGd-SKn2WtIFSXm0hoCZJwQAvD_BwE">https://tubbytodd.com/?brand_general&amp;tw_source=google&amp;tw_adid=764490404375&amp;tw_campaign=22807709662&amp;t...</a>﻿</p>
<p>Solly Baby: <a href="https://sollybaby.com/collections/wraps?wickedsource=google&amp;wickedid=CjwKCAjwu9fHBhAWEiwAzGRC_7SVVjWZwAh48E1wIL8e-3chJohpvi0isF5ki66d3nCUfEpyQIcqJBoCsGUQAvD_BwE&amp;wickedid=705682538612&amp;wcid=15853995743&amp;wv=4&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=15853995743&amp;gbraid=0AAAAADFCV-ZUtHS6esNxs7jHe_Pcy--as&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwu9fHBhAWEiwAzGRC_7SVVjWZwAh48E1wIL8e-3chJohpvi0isF5ki66d3nCUfEpyQIcqJBoCsGUQAvD_BwE">⁠https://sollybaby.com/collections/wraps?wickedsource=google&amp;wickedid=CjwKCAjwu9fHBhAWEiwAzGRC_7SVVjW...</a></p>
<p>"Present over Perfect" by Shauna Niequist</p>
<p>"What in the World?" by Leanne Morgan<br>﻿</p>
<p>Down The Well Links:</p>
<p>YouTube Channel: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN6YKPAhI1Rstsc4dT2N86w%E2%81%A0">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN6Y...</a>﻿</p>
<p>Elle's Substack: ﻿<a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqbWJFbUJlNi02Z0Z1THg0YjFHTVQ0b1ViZVBJZ3xBQ3Jtc0ttQm9oeWlxR2Vob1NsNFhXNWZzWXFqdUVRd2JLSXhNY2xzeGNUYjlKQmZ6SUMyQ1JrclltcHNBM0Vic0JzSHBRVW5LblpsRWtnQ01MMVQzNzE5aWw0QUVtbGRneTFsb0kzcnBZT1hKc3ZfTGNobUItdw&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack.com%2F%40ellerowley&amp;v=954cXftzURY">https://substack.com/@ellerowley</a>﻿</p>
<p>Elle's Instagram: ﻿instagram.com/ellerowley<br></p>
<p>About Down The Well:</p>
<p>Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley explores the mother's hero's journey—a path different from what you've read in books. It's a descent into the soul, where transformation is inevitable. Let's ensure it's for the better.﻿</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Impossible Standards in Motherhood: Letting Go of the Good Mother Myth | Lisa Marchiano</title>
      <description>Sz 2 Ep 6 | We have the pleasure of hearing from Lisa Marchiano for the second time on the Down The Well Podcast, a Jungian analyst and author of "Motherhood: Facing and Finding Yourself." Lisa and Elle peel back the layers of the "Good Mother" myth and dive deep into the transformative power of shadow work in motherhood.

Are you ready to confront the shadow side of mothering? To embrace the parts of yourself you've been told to hide?

Lisa reveals how the "good mother myth" sets impossible standards, leaving us feeling inadequate and disconnected from our true selves. But here's the kicker—what if those "negative" aspects we try to suppress are actually the key to our growth?Elle and Lisa explore:

• The liberating truth about the "Good Mother" myth [1:27]

• Why your anger might be your greatest teacher [19:44]

• The golden nuggets hidden in your shadow [41:52]

• How to parent from wholeness, not perfection [30:51]

Prepare to be challenged, inspired, and ultimately freed by this raw and honest exploration of motherhood's deepest truths.



🔔 Subscribe for more soul-stirring conversations that light the path to authentic motherhood.

💬 Comment below: What part of yourself are you ready to reclaim in your mothering journey?



Timestamps:

0:00 Intro: The good mother myth

5:34 How the good mom image affects women

8:28 Disempowering effects of perfect parenting ideals

14:11 Letting go of the good mother myth

21:15 Working with difficult emotions in motherhood

28:43 Understanding and integrating your shadow

37:38 Identifying shadow qualities in yourself

44:33 Practical steps for shadow work

49:22 Reintegrating positive aspects of younger self

54:12 Advice for different stages of motherhood



Show Links:

• "Motherhood: Facing and Finding Yourself" by Lisa Marchiano

• Lisa's website: https://lisamarchiano.com/



Down The Well Links:

• YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN6YKPAhI1Rstsc4dT2N86w

• Elle's Substack: https://substack.com/@ellerowley

• Elle's Instagram: instagram.com/ellerowley



About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Elle Rowley</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Sz 2 Ep 6 | We have the pleasure of hearing from Lisa Marchiano for the second time on the Down The Well Podcast, a Jungian analyst and author of "Motherhood: Facing and Finding Yourself." Lisa and Elle peel back the layers of the "Good Mother" myth and dive deep into the transformative power of shadow work in motherhood.

Are you ready to confront the shadow side of mothering? To embrace the parts of yourself you've been told to hide?

Lisa reveals how the "good mother myth" sets impossible standards, leaving us feeling inadequate and disconnected from our true selves. But here's the kicker—what if those "negative" aspects we try to suppress are actually the key to our growth?Elle and Lisa explore:

• The liberating truth about the "Good Mother" myth [1:27]

• Why your anger might be your greatest teacher [19:44]

• The golden nuggets hidden in your shadow [41:52]

• How to parent from wholeness, not perfection [30:51]

Prepare to be challenged, inspired, and ultimately freed by this raw and honest exploration of motherhood's deepest truths.



🔔 Subscribe for more soul-stirring conversations that light the path to authentic motherhood.

💬 Comment below: What part of yourself are you ready to reclaim in your mothering journey?



Timestamps:

0:00 Intro: The good mother myth

5:34 How the good mom image affects women

8:28 Disempowering effects of perfect parenting ideals

14:11 Letting go of the good mother myth

21:15 Working with difficult emotions in motherhood

28:43 Understanding and integrating your shadow

37:38 Identifying shadow qualities in yourself

44:33 Practical steps for shadow work

49:22 Reintegrating positive aspects of younger self

54:12 Advice for different stages of motherhood



Show Links:

• "Motherhood: Facing and Finding Yourself" by Lisa Marchiano

• Lisa's website: https://lisamarchiano.com/



Down The Well Links:

• YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN6YKPAhI1Rstsc4dT2N86w

• Elle's Substack: https://substack.com/@ellerowley

• Elle's Instagram: instagram.com/ellerowley



About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sz 2 Ep 6 | We have the pleasure of hearing from Lisa Marchiano for the second time on the Down The Well Podcast, a Jungian analyst and author of "Motherhood: Facing and Finding Yourself." Lisa and Elle peel back the layers of the "Good Mother" myth and dive deep into the transformative power of shadow work in motherhood.</p>
<p>Are you ready to confront the shadow side of mothering? To embrace the parts of yourself you've been told to hide?</p>
<p>Lisa reveals how the "good mother myth" sets impossible standards, leaving us feeling inadequate and disconnected from our true selves. But here's the kicker—what if those "negative" aspects we try to suppress are actually the key to our growth?Elle and Lisa explore:</p>
<p>• The liberating truth about the "Good Mother" myth [1:27]</p>
<p>• Why your anger might be your greatest teacher [19:44]</p>
<p>• The golden nuggets hidden in your shadow [41:52]</p>
<p>• How to parent from wholeness, not perfection [30:51]</p>
<p>Prepare to be challenged, inspired, and ultimately freed by this raw and honest exploration of motherhood's deepest truths.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>🔔 Subscribe for more soul-stirring conversations that light the path to authentic motherhood.</p>
<p>💬 Comment below: What part of yourself are you ready to reclaim in your mothering journey?</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Timestamps:</p>
<p>0:00 Intro: The good mother myth</p>
<p>5:34 How the good mom image affects women</p>
<p>8:28 Disempowering effects of perfect parenting ideals</p>
<p>14:11 Letting go of the good mother myth</p>
<p>21:15 Working with difficult emotions in motherhood</p>
<p>28:43 Understanding and integrating your shadow</p>
<p>37:38 Identifying shadow qualities in yourself</p>
<p>44:33 Practical steps for shadow work</p>
<p>49:22 Reintegrating positive aspects of younger self</p>
<p>54:12 Advice for different stages of motherhood</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Show Links:</p>
<p>• "Motherhood: Facing and Finding Yourself" by Lisa Marchiano</p>
<p>• Lisa's website: https://lisamarchiano.com/</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Down The Well Links:</p>
<p>• YouTube Channel: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN6YKPAhI1Rstsc4dT2N86w"><u>https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN6YKPAhI1Rstsc4dT2N86w</u></a></p>
<p>• Elle's Substack: https://substack.com/@ellerowley</p>
<p>• Elle's Instagram: instagram.com/ellerowley</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>About Down The Well:</p>
<p>Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>What Nobody Tells You About the Maiden to Mother Transition</title>
      <description>Sz 2 Ep 5 | What if the transition to motherhood isn't just about diapers and sleepless nights... but a profound archetypal shift that reshapes your entire being?

In this soul-stirring episode, Elle dives deep into the often overlooked journey from maiden to mother. She peels back the layers of societal pressure, personal resistance, and the bittersweet beauty of this transformation.

Are you clinging to your "maiden" self even as you navigate motherhood? You're not alone.

This isn't just about having kids—it's about saying yes to a fuller, vaster version of yourself. Ready to step into your power?

🔔 Subscribe for more soul-nourishing conversations on motherhood, identity, and becoming.

💬 Comment below: What's been the hardest part of your maiden-to-mother transition?

Timestamps:

0:00 - Intro

00:40 - Understanding the archetypes

02:43 - Why we resist the mother

09:20 - Three lies holding us back

16:27 - The gifts of motherhood

20:32 - Missed your maiden years?

23:35 - Integrating maiden and mother

Show Links:

Oura Ring: https://ouraring.com/product/rings

Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠⁠⁠

Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowle⁠y

Listen to Down The Well:

Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg⁠

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.

SEO Keywords:

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      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Elle Rowley</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Sz 2 Ep 5 | What if the transition to motherhood isn't just about diapers and sleepless nights... but a profound archetypal shift that reshapes your entire being?

In this soul-stirring episode, Elle dives deep into the often overlooked journey from maiden to mother. She peels back the layers of societal pressure, personal resistance, and the bittersweet beauty of this transformation.

Are you clinging to your "maiden" self even as you navigate motherhood? You're not alone.

This isn't just about having kids—it's about saying yes to a fuller, vaster version of yourself. Ready to step into your power?

🔔 Subscribe for more soul-nourishing conversations on motherhood, identity, and becoming.

💬 Comment below: What's been the hardest part of your maiden-to-mother transition?

Timestamps:

0:00 - Intro

00:40 - Understanding the archetypes

02:43 - Why we resist the mother

09:20 - Three lies holding us back

16:27 - The gifts of motherhood

20:32 - Missed your maiden years?

23:35 - Integrating maiden and mother

Show Links:

Oura Ring: https://ouraring.com/product/rings

Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠⁠⁠

Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowle⁠y

Listen to Down The Well:

Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg⁠

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.

SEO Keywords:

transformational motherhood, maiden archetype, mother archetype, matriarch archetype, women's developmental phases, releasing maidenhood, embracing motherhood, cultural expectations, societal pressures, aging and beauty, body acceptance, self-discovery, personal growth, life transitions, motherhood challenges, work-life balance, self-care for mothers, identity shifts, parenting journey, female empowerment, archetypal psychology, women's spirituality, intergenerational wisdom, life stages, personal transformation


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        <![CDATA[<p>Sz 2 Ep 5 | What if the transition to motherhood isn't just about diapers and sleepless nights... but a profound archetypal shift that reshapes your entire being?</p>
<p>In this soul-stirring episode, Elle dives deep into the often overlooked journey from maiden to mother. She peels back the layers of societal pressure, personal resistance, and the bittersweet beauty of this transformation.</p>
<p>Are you clinging to your "maiden" self even as you navigate motherhood? You're not alone.</p>
<p>This isn't just about having kids—it's about saying yes to a fuller, vaster version of yourself. Ready to step into your power?</p>
<p>🔔 Subscribe for more soul-nourishing conversations on motherhood, identity, and becoming.</p>
<p>💬 Comment below: What's been the hardest part of your maiden-to-mother transition?</p>
<p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p>
<p>0:00 - Intro</p>
<p>00:40 - Understanding the archetypes</p>
<p>02:43 - Why we resist the mother</p>
<p>09:20 - Three lies holding us back</p>
<p>16:27 - The gifts of motherhood</p>
<p>20:32 - Missed your maiden years?</p>
<p>23:35 - Integrating maiden and mother</p>
<p><strong>Show Links:</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://ouraring.com/product/rings"><u>Oura Ring</u></a>: <a href="https://ouraring.com/product/rings"><u>https://ouraring.com/product/rings</u></a></p>
<p><strong>Down The Well Links:</strong></p>
<p>Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠<a href="https://substack.com/@ellerowley"><u>⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠</u></a>⁠⁠⁠</p>
<p>Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠<a href="http://instagram.com/ellerowley"><u>⁠instagram.com/ellerowle⁠</u></a><u>y</u></p>
<p><strong>Listen to Down The Well:</strong></p>
<p>Spotify:<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg"> <u>⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg⁠</u></a></p>
<p>Apple:<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644"> <u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644</u></a></p>
<p>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well"><u>https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well</u></a></p>
<p><strong>About Down The Well:</strong></p>
<p>Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p>
<p><br><strong>SEO Keywords</strong>:</p>
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<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Torn to Pieces No More: Finding Wholeness as a Mother</title>
      <description>Sz 2 Ep 4 | In this soul-stirring episode, Elle dives deep into the heart of modern motherhood's greatest paradox: How do we find wholeness in a role that seems to demand we shatter ourselves into a million pieces?

Drawing inspiration from Ann Morrow Lindbergh's timeless wisdom, Elle explores the concept of "Zerissinheit"—that torn-to-pieces feeling so many mothers know all too well. But here's the plot twist: What if fragmentation isn't our destiny, but our chrysalis?

Elle challenges the notion that mothers must sacrifice everything on the altar of caregiving. Instead, she offers a radical new vision: motherhood as a catalyst for profound personal growth and self-discovery.

🔔 Ready to revolutionize your approach to motherhood? Hit subscribe and join the wholeness revolution!

💬 Share below: What fills your "source" and makes you feel most alive?

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro

03:03 - Unpacking "Zerrissenheit"

08:40 - The audacity of maternal time off

15:49 - Your motherhood HR department

23:00 - Restoration through deep presence

Show Links:

"Gift from the Sea" by Ann Morrow Lindbergh: https://www.amazon.com/Gift-50th-Anniversary-Anne-Morrow-Lindbergh/dp/0679732411

Oura Ring: https://ouraring.com/product/rings

Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠⁠⁠

Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowle⁠y

Listen to Down The Well:

Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg⁠

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.



SEO Keywords:

motherhood challenges, work-life balance, self-care for mothers, Ann Morrow Lindbergh, Gifts from the Sea, torn-to-pieces-hood, wholeness in motherhood, maternal burnout, solitude for mothers, nurturing source, creative pursuits, maternal identity, family dynamics, personal growth, maternal well-being, time management for mothers, maternal mental health, parenting strategies, maternal restoration, mindful motherhood, maternal boundaries, purposeful giving, maternal self-reflection, maternal resilience, balancing motherhood roles


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      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2025 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Elle Rowley</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Sz 2 Ep 4 | In this soul-stirring episode, Elle dives deep into the heart of modern motherhood's greatest paradox: How do we find wholeness in a role that seems to demand we shatter ourselves into a million pieces?

Drawing inspiration from Ann Morrow Lindbergh's timeless wisdom, Elle explores the concept of "Zerissinheit"—that torn-to-pieces feeling so many mothers know all too well. But here's the plot twist: What if fragmentation isn't our destiny, but our chrysalis?

Elle challenges the notion that mothers must sacrifice everything on the altar of caregiving. Instead, she offers a radical new vision: motherhood as a catalyst for profound personal growth and self-discovery.

🔔 Ready to revolutionize your approach to motherhood? Hit subscribe and join the wholeness revolution!

💬 Share below: What fills your "source" and makes you feel most alive?

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro

03:03 - Unpacking "Zerrissenheit"

08:40 - The audacity of maternal time off

15:49 - Your motherhood HR department

23:00 - Restoration through deep presence

Show Links:

"Gift from the Sea" by Ann Morrow Lindbergh: https://www.amazon.com/Gift-50th-Anniversary-Anne-Morrow-Lindbergh/dp/0679732411

Oura Ring: https://ouraring.com/product/rings

Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠⁠⁠

Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowle⁠y

Listen to Down The Well:

Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg⁠

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.



SEO Keywords:

motherhood challenges, work-life balance, self-care for mothers, Ann Morrow Lindbergh, Gifts from the Sea, torn-to-pieces-hood, wholeness in motherhood, maternal burnout, solitude for mothers, nurturing source, creative pursuits, maternal identity, family dynamics, personal growth, maternal well-being, time management for mothers, maternal mental health, parenting strategies, maternal restoration, mindful motherhood, maternal boundaries, purposeful giving, maternal self-reflection, maternal resilience, balancing motherhood roles


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sz 2 Ep 4 | In this soul-stirring episode, Elle dives deep into the heart of modern motherhood's greatest paradox: How do we find wholeness in a role that seems to demand we shatter ourselves into a million pieces?</p>
<p>Drawing inspiration from Ann Morrow Lindbergh's timeless wisdom, Elle explores the concept of "Zerissinheit"—that torn-to-pieces feeling so many mothers know all too well. But here's the plot twist: What if fragmentation isn't our destiny, but our chrysalis?</p>
<p>Elle challenges the notion that mothers must sacrifice everything on the altar of caregiving. Instead, she offers a radical new vision: motherhood as a catalyst for profound personal growth and self-discovery.</p>
<p>🔔 Ready to revolutionize your approach to motherhood? Hit subscribe and join the wholeness revolution!</p>
<p>💬 Share below: What fills your "source" and makes you feel most alive?</p>
<p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p>
<p>0:00 Intro</p>
<p>03:03 - Unpacking "Zerrissenheit"</p>
<p>08:40 - The audacity of maternal time off</p>
<p>15:49 - Your motherhood HR department</p>
<p>23:00 - Restoration through deep presence</p>
<p><strong>Show Links:</strong></p>
<p>"Gift from the Sea" by Ann Morrow Lindbergh: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Gift-50th-Anniversary-Anne-Morrow-Lindbergh/dp/0679732411"><u>https://www.amazon.com/Gift-50th-Anniversary-Anne-Morrow-Lindbergh/dp/0679732411</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://ouraring.com/product/rings"><u>Oura Ring</u></a>: <a href="https://ouraring.com/product/rings"><u>https://ouraring.com/product/rings</u></a></p>
<p><strong>Down The Well Links:</strong></p>
<p>Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠<a href="https://substack.com/@ellerowley"><u>⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠</u></a>⁠⁠⁠</p>
<p>Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠<a href="http://instagram.com/ellerowley"><u>⁠instagram.com/ellerowle⁠</u></a><u>y</u></p>
<p><strong>Listen to Down The Well:</strong></p>
<p>Spotify:<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg"> <u>⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg⁠</u></a></p>
<p>Apple:<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644"> <u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644</u></a></p>
<p>YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well"><u>https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well</u></a></p>
<p><strong>About Down The Well:</strong></p>
<p>Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>SEO Keywords</strong>:</p>
<p>motherhood challenges, work-life balance, self-care for mothers, Ann Morrow Lindbergh, Gifts from the Sea, torn-to-pieces-hood, wholeness in motherhood, maternal burnout, solitude for mothers, nurturing source, creative pursuits, maternal identity, family dynamics, personal growth, maternal well-being, time management for mothers, maternal mental health, parenting strategies, maternal restoration, mindful motherhood, maternal boundaries, purposeful giving, maternal self-reflection, maternal resilience, balancing motherhood roles</p>
<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>The Art of Emotional Self-Reliance: Redefining Marital Happiness</title>
      <description>Sz 2 Ep 3 | Elle dives deep into the often-overlooked middle years of marriage with couples coach Natalie Clay. They explore the hidden treasures and challenges of long-term partnerships, offering a fresh perspective on what it means to truly grow together.

Are you feeling more like roommates than soulmates? Struggling with communication or emotional self-reliance? This episode can be your lifeline.

Natalie shares powerful insights on:

• The importance of emotional self-reliance (without losing connection)

• Transforming conflicts into opportunities for growth

• Embracing vulnerability as the key to deeper intimacy

It's time to rewrite the narrative of the "boring" middle years. Let's discover how this phase can be the most transformative and rewarding chapter of your love story.

🔔 Subscribe for more soul-nourishing conversations about relationships, personal growth, and the journey of becoming.

💬 Comment below: What's been your biggest challenge (or unexpected joy) in the middle years of your relationship?



Timestamps:

0:00 Intro: Middle years of marriage discussion

5:12 Emotional self-reliance in relationships

10:12 Dealing with insecurities in marriage

20:24 Why couples feel like roommates

25:05 Physical intimacy and mismatched desire

36:29 Parenting differences in marriage

42:42 Radical acceptance in relationships

49:41 Navigating different parenting approaches

55:41 The role of mystery in marriage

57:05 Hidden strengths of middle years

1:02:15 Lightning round: Marriage advice



Show Links:

Natalie Clay Coaching

Couples Coaching with Natalie Clay podcast

@Natalieclaycoaching on Instagram



Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠⁠

Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowle

_____

Listen to Down The Well:

Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg⁠

Apple: 

⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644⁠

Amazon: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0p4aFo3SlBSNWNpUzhiNkt⁠

_____



About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.



SEO Keywords: marriage coaching, emotional self-reliance, middle years of marriage, couples communication, vulnerability in relationships, conflict resolution, parenting differences, intimacy challenges, personal growth in marriage, marriage struggles, emotional connection, self-compassion, relationship dynamics, marriage expectations, long-term commitment, marital conflict, relationship coaching, marriage counseling, emotional intimacy, relationship vulnerability, marriage longevity, relationship autonomy, marriage challenges, relationship growth, marriage satisfaction
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2025 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Elle Rowley</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Sz 2 Ep 3 | Elle dives deep into the often-overlooked middle years of marriage with couples coach Natalie Clay. They explore the hidden treasures and challenges of long-term partnerships, offering a fresh perspective on what it means to truly grow together.

Are you feeling more like roommates than soulmates? Struggling with communication or emotional self-reliance? This episode can be your lifeline.

Natalie shares powerful insights on:

• The importance of emotional self-reliance (without losing connection)

• Transforming conflicts into opportunities for growth

• Embracing vulnerability as the key to deeper intimacy

It's time to rewrite the narrative of the "boring" middle years. Let's discover how this phase can be the most transformative and rewarding chapter of your love story.

🔔 Subscribe for more soul-nourishing conversations about relationships, personal growth, and the journey of becoming.

💬 Comment below: What's been your biggest challenge (or unexpected joy) in the middle years of your relationship?



Timestamps:

0:00 Intro: Middle years of marriage discussion

5:12 Emotional self-reliance in relationships

10:12 Dealing with insecurities in marriage

20:24 Why couples feel like roommates

25:05 Physical intimacy and mismatched desire

36:29 Parenting differences in marriage

42:42 Radical acceptance in relationships

49:41 Navigating different parenting approaches

55:41 The role of mystery in marriage

57:05 Hidden strengths of middle years

1:02:15 Lightning round: Marriage advice



Show Links:

Natalie Clay Coaching

Couples Coaching with Natalie Clay podcast

@Natalieclaycoaching on Instagram



Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠⁠

Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowle

_____

Listen to Down The Well:

Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg⁠

Apple: 

⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644⁠

Amazon: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0p4aFo3SlBSNWNpUzhiNkt⁠

_____



About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.



SEO Keywords: marriage coaching, emotional self-reliance, middle years of marriage, couples communication, vulnerability in relationships, conflict resolution, parenting differences, intimacy challenges, personal growth in marriage, marriage struggles, emotional connection, self-compassion, relationship dynamics, marriage expectations, long-term commitment, marital conflict, relationship coaching, marriage counseling, emotional intimacy, relationship vulnerability, marriage longevity, relationship autonomy, marriage challenges, relationship growth, marriage satisfaction
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sz 2 Ep 3 | Elle dives deep into the often-overlooked middle years of marriage with couples coach Natalie Clay. They explore the hidden treasures and challenges of long-term partnerships, offering a fresh perspective on what it means to truly grow together.</p>
<p>Are you feeling more like roommates than soulmates? Struggling with communication or emotional self-reliance? This episode can be your lifeline.</p>
<p>Natalie shares powerful insights on:</p>
<p>• The importance of emotional self-reliance (without losing connection)</p>
<p>• Transforming conflicts into opportunities for growth</p>
<p>• Embracing vulnerability as the key to deeper intimacy</p>
<p>It's time to rewrite the narrative of the "boring" middle years. Let's discover how this phase can be the most transformative and rewarding chapter of your love story.</p>
<p>🔔 Subscribe for more soul-nourishing conversations about relationships, personal growth, and the journey of becoming.</p>
<p>💬 Comment below: What's been your biggest challenge (or unexpected joy) in the middle years of your relationship?</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p>
<p>0:00 Intro: Middle years of marriage discussion</p>
<p>5:12 Emotional self-reliance in relationships</p>
<p>10:12 Dealing with insecurities in marriage</p>
<p>20:24 Why couples feel like roommates</p>
<p>25:05 Physical intimacy and mismatched desire</p>
<p>36:29 Parenting differences in marriage</p>
<p>42:42 Radical acceptance in relationships</p>
<p>49:41 Navigating different parenting approaches</p>
<p>55:41 The role of mystery in marriage</p>
<p>57:05 Hidden strengths of middle years</p>
<p>1:02:15 Lightning round: Marriage advice</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Show Links:</strong></p>
<p>Natalie Clay Coaching</p>
<p>Couples Coaching with Natalie Clay podcast</p>
<p>@Natalieclaycoaching on Instagram</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Down The Well Links:</strong></p>
<p>Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠<a href="https://substack.com/@ellerowley">https://substack.com/@ellerowley</a>⁠⁠⁠</p>
<p>Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠<a href="http://instagram.com/ellerowley">instagram.com/ellerowle</a></p>
<p>_____</p>
<p><strong>Listen to Down The Well:</strong></p>
<p>Spotify:<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg"> <u>⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg⁠</u></a></p>
<p>Apple:<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644"> </a></p>
<p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644"><u>⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644⁠</u></a></p>
<p>Amazon:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0p4aFo3SlBSNWNpUzhiNktNZnJYR1N5NWdFQXxBQ3Jtc0treFhsQWktbVFmb3dWY3JIR0F2dE5EM1ZEUzlFSTVvQnhURUF3XzNrb1BiU3RTTFc3M3JlOWNQNG5MaXVOWWJkZ0d0NmVmNDE1X2M2czFxMjdDb21seVA1VHNWXzVmajltNzZyMFZkOFdZZHRvVDN0bw&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fmusic.amazon.com%2Fpodcasts%2F2c7a4e4d-b882-4bdd-b1dd-544482840b40%2Fdown-the-well%3Fref%3Ddm_sh_DgQRdGDShoiYlLMZFT3SRJqUd&amp;v=k0dSnMa_Iqo"> <u>⁠https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0p4aFo3SlBSNWNpUzhiNkt⁠</u></a></p>
<p>_____</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>About Down The Well:</strong></p>
<p>Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>SEO Keywords: marriage coaching, emotional self-reliance, middle years of marriage, couples communication, vulnerability in relationships, conflict resolution, parenting differences, intimacy challenges, personal growth in marriage, marriage struggles, emotional connection, self-compassion, relationship dynamics, marriage expectations, long-term commitment, marital conflict, relationship coaching, marriage counseling, emotional intimacy, relationship vulnerability, marriage longevity, relationship autonomy, marriage challenges, relationship growth, marriage satisfaction</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>5 Lessons From The Kindred Spirit of Lucy Maud Montgomery | Author of  Anne of Green Gables</title>
      <description>Sz 2 Ep 2 | What if the key to unlocking your creative genius lies in the pages of a century-old novel?

In this episode, Elle Rowley shares another installment in her series of Portrait of a Matriarch. She takes us on a journey through the life of the matriarch, Lucy Maud Montgomery, creator of Anne of Green Gables and unexpected mentor to generations of dreamers.

From Prince Edward Island's red-clay roads to the depths of personal struggle, we explore how Montgomery's resilience and creativity shaped a literary legacy that still resonates today.

Elle shares her 5 favorite lessons she learned from studying Maud’s complex life, and the gems of wisdom she took from her matriarchal years:


  
Success comes from small and simple things done consistently



  
Creativity can offer resilience and beauty in the bleakest of circumstances



  
What other people think of you is none of your business



  
Nature is a constant source of wonder and healing



  
The matriarch is the wise woman




Are you ready to find your own "Green Gables" of the soul?

Share with us what lesson resonates with you as a current or future matriarch.

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro: Lucy Maud Montgomery's impact

5:07 Childhood and early life of Montgomery

10:15 Writing career and publishing Anne of Green Gables

15:23 Marriage, motherhood, and personal struggles

20:35 Five lessons from Lucy Maud Montgomery's life

25:44 Creativity as resilience in difficult circumstances

31:25 Overcoming fear of others' opinions

37:33 Nature as inspiration and solace

42:38 Montgomery's message to future generations

47:13 Reflecting on Montgomery's legacy and impact

Show Links:


  
"Lucy Maud Montgomery: The Gift of Wings" by Mary Henley Rubio: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/Lucy-Maud-Montgomery-Gift-Wings/dp/0385667604⁠



  
Anne of Green Gables (1985) starring Megan Follows



  
Anne of Green Gables, 1908 edition: https://www.amazon.com/Anne-Green-Gables-Original-Montgomery/dp/B0BTNNMXBV




Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠⁠⁠

Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowle⁠

_____

Listen to Down The Well:

Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg⁠

Apple: ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644⁠

Amazon: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0p4aFo3SlBSNWNpUzhiNkt⁠

_____

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.

SEO Keywords: Lucy Maud Montgomery, Anne of Green Gables, Canadian literature, Prince Edward Island, creative writing, childhood imagination, resilience through creativity, matriarchal lessons, mental health struggles, literary success, consistent writing habits, nature inspiration, character development, female authors, early 20th century literature, overcoming rejection, balancing motherhood and career, societal expectations, personal journals, childhood abandonment, community gossip, self-doubt in writing, nature as solace, literary legacy, historical fiction


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      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2025 18:31:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Elle Rowley</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Sz 2 Ep 2 | What if the key to unlocking your creative genius lies in the pages of a century-old novel?

In this episode, Elle Rowley shares another installment in her series of Portrait of a Matriarch. She takes us on a journey through the life of the matriarch, Lucy Maud Montgomery, creator of Anne of Green Gables and unexpected mentor to generations of dreamers.

From Prince Edward Island's red-clay roads to the depths of personal struggle, we explore how Montgomery's resilience and creativity shaped a literary legacy that still resonates today.

Elle shares her 5 favorite lessons she learned from studying Maud’s complex life, and the gems of wisdom she took from her matriarchal years:


  
Success comes from small and simple things done consistently



  
Creativity can offer resilience and beauty in the bleakest of circumstances



  
What other people think of you is none of your business



  
Nature is a constant source of wonder and healing



  
The matriarch is the wise woman




Are you ready to find your own "Green Gables" of the soul?

Share with us what lesson resonates with you as a current or future matriarch.

Timestamps:

0:00 Intro: Lucy Maud Montgomery's impact

5:07 Childhood and early life of Montgomery

10:15 Writing career and publishing Anne of Green Gables

15:23 Marriage, motherhood, and personal struggles

20:35 Five lessons from Lucy Maud Montgomery's life

25:44 Creativity as resilience in difficult circumstances

31:25 Overcoming fear of others' opinions

37:33 Nature as inspiration and solace

42:38 Montgomery's message to future generations

47:13 Reflecting on Montgomery's legacy and impact

Show Links:


  
"Lucy Maud Montgomery: The Gift of Wings" by Mary Henley Rubio: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/Lucy-Maud-Montgomery-Gift-Wings/dp/0385667604⁠



  
Anne of Green Gables (1985) starring Megan Follows



  
Anne of Green Gables, 1908 edition: https://www.amazon.com/Anne-Green-Gables-Original-Montgomery/dp/B0BTNNMXBV




Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠⁠⁠

Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowle⁠

_____

Listen to Down The Well:

Spotify: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg⁠

Apple: ⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644⁠

Amazon: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0p4aFo3SlBSNWNpUzhiNkt⁠

_____

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.

SEO Keywords: Lucy Maud Montgomery, Anne of Green Gables, Canadian literature, Prince Edward Island, creative writing, childhood imagination, resilience through creativity, matriarchal lessons, mental health struggles, literary success, consistent writing habits, nature inspiration, character development, female authors, early 20th century literature, overcoming rejection, balancing motherhood and career, societal expectations, personal journals, childhood abandonment, community gossip, self-doubt in writing, nature as solace, literary legacy, historical fiction


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        <![CDATA[<p>Sz 2 Ep 2 | What if the key to unlocking your creative genius lies in the pages of a century-old novel?</p>
<p>In this episode, Elle Rowley shares another installment in her series of Portrait of a Matriarch. She takes us on a journey through the life of the matriarch, Lucy Maud Montgomery, creator of Anne of Green Gables and unexpected mentor to generations of dreamers.</p>
<p>From Prince Edward Island's red-clay roads to the depths of personal struggle, we explore how Montgomery's resilience and creativity shaped a literary legacy that still resonates today.</p>
<p>Elle shares her 5 favorite lessons she learned from studying Maud’s complex life, and the gems of wisdom she took from her matriarchal years:</p>
<ol>
  <li>
<p>Success comes from small and simple things done consistently</p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Creativity can offer resilience and beauty in the bleakest of circumstances</p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>What other people think of you is none of your business</p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Nature is a constant source of wonder and healing</p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>The matriarch is the wise woman</p>
</li>
</ol>
<p>Are you ready to find your own "Green Gables" of the soul?</p>
<p>Share with us what lesson resonates with you as a current or future matriarch.</p>
<p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p>
<p>0:00 Intro: Lucy Maud Montgomery's impact</p>
<p>5:07 Childhood and early life of Montgomery</p>
<p>10:15 Writing career and publishing Anne of Green Gables</p>
<p>15:23 Marriage, motherhood, and personal struggles</p>
<p>20:35 Five lessons from Lucy Maud Montgomery's life</p>
<p>25:44 Creativity as resilience in difficult circumstances</p>
<p>31:25 Overcoming fear of others' opinions</p>
<p>37:33 Nature as inspiration and solace</p>
<p>42:38 Montgomery's message to future generations</p>
<p>47:13 Reflecting on Montgomery's legacy and impact</p>
<p><strong>Show Links:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>"Lucy Maud Montgomery: The Gift of Wings" by Mary Henley Rubio:<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Lucy-Maud-Montgomery-Gift-Wings/dp/0385667604"> <u>⁠https://www.amazon.com/Lucy-Maud-Montgomery-Gift-Wings/dp/0385667604⁠</u></a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Anne of Green Gables (1985) starring Megan Follows</p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Anne of Green Gables, 1908 edition: https://www.amazon.com/Anne-Green-Gables-Original-Montgomery/dp/B0BTNNMXBV</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Down The Well Links:</strong></p>
<p>Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠<a href="https://substack.com/@ellerowley"><u>⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠</u></a>⁠⁠⁠</p>
<p>Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠<a href="http://instagram.com/ellerowley"><u>⁠instagram.com/ellerowle⁠</u></a></p>
<p>_____</p>
<p><strong>Listen to Down The Well:</strong></p>
<p>Spotify:<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg"> <u>⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg⁠</u></a></p>
<p>Apple:<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644"> <u>⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644⁠</u></a></p>
<p>Amazon:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0p4aFo3SlBSNWNpUzhiNktNZnJYR1N5NWdFQXxBQ3Jtc0treFhsQWktbVFmb3dWY3JIR0F2dE5EM1ZEUzlFSTVvQnhURUF3XzNrb1BiU3RTTFc3M3JlOWNQNG5MaXVOWWJkZ0d0NmVmNDE1X2M2czFxMjdDb21seVA1VHNWXzVmajltNzZyMFZkOFdZZHRvVDN0bw&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fmusic.amazon.com%2Fpodcasts%2F2c7a4e4d-b882-4bdd-b1dd-544482840b40%2Fdown-the-well%3Fref%3Ddm_sh_DgQRdGDShoiYlLMZFT3SRJqUd&amp;v=k0dSnMa_Iqo"> <u>⁠https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0p4aFo3SlBSNWNpUzhiNkt⁠</u></a></p>
<p>_____</p>
<p><strong>About Down The Well:</strong></p>
<p>Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p>
<p>SEO Keywords: Lucy Maud Montgomery, Anne of Green Gables, Canadian literature, Prince Edward Island, creative writing, childhood imagination, resilience through creativity, matriarchal lessons, mental health struggles, literary success, consistent writing habits, nature inspiration, character development, female authors, early 20th century literature, overcoming rejection, balancing motherhood and career, societal expectations, personal journals, childhood abandonment, community gossip, self-doubt in writing, nature as solace, literary legacy, historical fiction</p>
<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>The 7 Stages of The Mother’s Hero’s Journey</title>
      <description>Sz 2 Ep 1 | What if motherhood isn't just about raising children, but a profound journey of self-discovery and transformation?

Elle is back with another season and starts us out with this soul-stirring episode, she dives deep into the concept of the "mother's hero's journey," inspired by Lisa Marchiano's groundbreaking work. She unravels the seven stages of this journey, from the initial call to adventure to the triumphant return—each step a potential for growth, challenge, and rebirth.

The 7 Stages Elle discusses:

1. Departure from ordinary world

2. The call to adventure

3. The descent

4. Meeting the shadow

5. Receiving help and inner wisdom

6. Integration and transformation

7. Return and Contribution

This episode goes beyond theory. Elle shares deeply personal stories from her own journey through motherhood—the disorientation, the growth, the unexpected beauty. From sleepless nights that unravel the ego to moments of reckoning with fear and identity, her reflections offer something every mother will recognize.

If you've ever wondered whether the everyday trials of motherhood hold deeper meaning, this conversation is for you. What if the hero’s journey isn’t out there—but right here, in your own kitchen, carpool, and quiet breakdowns?

 Subscribe for more spirit-awakening explorations of motherhood, identity, and personal growth.

 Comment below: What stage of the mother's hero's journey resonates most with you right now?

Timestamps:

00:00 - Introduction to the mother's hero's journey

06:00 - Breaking down the seven stages

12:00 - Ego death and motherhood

18:00 - Shadow work and integration

24:00 - Finding wisdom in unexpected places

30:00 - The alchemy of transformation

36:00 - Returning with gifts: How mothers change the world

42:00 - Elle's personal childbirth story

Show Links:

"Motherhood: Finding and Facing Yourself" by Lisa Marchiano - https://lisamarchiano.com/books/

Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey - https://www.amazon.com/Heros-Journey-Joseph-Campbell-Collected/dp/1608681890/ref=asc_df_1608681890?m...

Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠⁠

Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowle

_____

Listen to Down The Well:

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644



Amazon: https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0p4aFo3SlBSNWNpUzhiNkt

_____



About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2025 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Elle Rowley</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Sz 2 Ep 1 | What if motherhood isn't just about raising children, but a profound journey of self-discovery and transformation?

Elle is back with another season and starts us out with this soul-stirring episode, she dives deep into the concept of the "mother's hero's journey," inspired by Lisa Marchiano's groundbreaking work. She unravels the seven stages of this journey, from the initial call to adventure to the triumphant return—each step a potential for growth, challenge, and rebirth.

The 7 Stages Elle discusses:

1. Departure from ordinary world

2. The call to adventure

3. The descent

4. Meeting the shadow

5. Receiving help and inner wisdom

6. Integration and transformation

7. Return and Contribution

This episode goes beyond theory. Elle shares deeply personal stories from her own journey through motherhood—the disorientation, the growth, the unexpected beauty. From sleepless nights that unravel the ego to moments of reckoning with fear and identity, her reflections offer something every mother will recognize.

If you've ever wondered whether the everyday trials of motherhood hold deeper meaning, this conversation is for you. What if the hero’s journey isn’t out there—but right here, in your own kitchen, carpool, and quiet breakdowns?

 Subscribe for more spirit-awakening explorations of motherhood, identity, and personal growth.

 Comment below: What stage of the mother's hero's journey resonates most with you right now?

Timestamps:

00:00 - Introduction to the mother's hero's journey

06:00 - Breaking down the seven stages

12:00 - Ego death and motherhood

18:00 - Shadow work and integration

24:00 - Finding wisdom in unexpected places

30:00 - The alchemy of transformation

36:00 - Returning with gifts: How mothers change the world

42:00 - Elle's personal childbirth story

Show Links:

"Motherhood: Finding and Facing Yourself" by Lisa Marchiano - https://lisamarchiano.com/books/

Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey - https://www.amazon.com/Heros-Journey-Joseph-Campbell-Collected/dp/1608681890/ref=asc_df_1608681890?m...

Down The Well Links:

Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠⁠

Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowle

_____

Listen to Down The Well:

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg

Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644



Amazon: https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0p4aFo3SlBSNWNpUzhiNkt

_____



About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sz 2 Ep 1 | What if motherhood isn't just about raising children, but a profound journey of self-discovery and transformation?</p>
<p>Elle is back with another season and starts us out with this soul-stirring episode, she dives deep into the concept of the "mother's hero's journey," inspired by Lisa Marchiano's groundbreaking work. She unravels the seven stages of this journey, from the initial call to adventure to the triumphant return—each step a potential for growth, challenge, and rebirth.</p>
<p>The 7 Stages Elle discusses:</p>
<p>1. Departure from ordinary world</p>
<p>2. The call to adventure</p>
<p>3. The descent</p>
<p>4. Meeting the shadow</p>
<p>5. Receiving help and inner wisdom</p>
<p>6. Integration and transformation</p>
<p>7. Return and Contribution</p>
<p>This episode goes beyond theory. Elle shares deeply personal stories from her own journey through motherhood—the disorientation, the growth, the unexpected beauty. From sleepless nights that unravel the ego to moments of reckoning with fear and identity, her reflections offer something every mother will recognize.</p>
<p>If you've ever wondered whether the everyday trials of motherhood hold deeper meaning, this conversation is for you. What if the hero’s journey isn’t out there—but right here, in your own kitchen, carpool, and quiet breakdowns?</p>
<p> Subscribe for more spirit-awakening explorations of motherhood, identity, and personal growth.</p>
<p> Comment below: What stage of the mother's hero's journey resonates most with you right now?</p>
<p>Timestamps:</p>
<p>00:00 - Introduction to the mother's hero's journey</p>
<p>06:00 - Breaking down the seven stages</p>
<p>12:00 - Ego death and motherhood</p>
<p>18:00 - Shadow work and integration</p>
<p>24:00 - Finding wisdom in unexpected places</p>
<p>30:00 - The alchemy of transformation</p>
<p>36:00 - Returning with gifts: How mothers change the world</p>
<p>42:00 - Elle's personal childbirth story</p>
<p>Show Links:</p>
<p>"Motherhood: Finding and Facing Yourself" by Lisa Marchiano - <a href="https://lisamarchiano.com/books/">https://lisamarchiano.com/books/</a></p>
<p>Joseph Campbell's Hero's Journey - <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Heros-Journey-Joseph-Campbell-Collected/dp/1608681890/ref=asc_df_1608681890?mcid=28bf6ef1867f3a4fa32e733b5477f5d2&amp;hvocijid=4810212263713748512-1608681890-&amp;hvexpln=73&amp;tag=hyprod-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=721245378154&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=4810212263713748512&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=9029683&amp;hvtargid=pla-2281435177858&amp;psc=1">https://www.amazon.com/Heros-Journey-Joseph-Campbell-Collected/dp/1608681890/ref=asc_df_1608681890?m...</a></p>
<p>Down The Well Links:</p>
<p>Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠<a href="https://substack.com/@ellerowley">https://substack.com/@ellerowley</a>⁠⁠⁠</p>
<p>Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠<a href="http://instagram.com/ellerowley">instagram.com/ellerowle</a></p>
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<p>Listen to Down The Well:</p>
<p>Spotify:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqbkZWcVZXRTVpaU5zVmRic0Y5VXdWbWpEMmgtQXxBQ3Jtc0tuZ1g0d0NEaXczRnBDTnBxNmNXaEZfUll2MC1Mc2l2Q2ctb1B0ZU9YU3hvaVZVSXZMTnc1RjRVSVh6a1hGM3JwUEgxVXl4VDZlMThjdHU1bFhBaGpxcHYzR3NqcjJ6MlRGazNabXJiUWNVQVQ5SVdHTQ&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fopen.spotify.com%2Fshow%2F6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t%3Fsi%3Da46bbf9ea200425d&amp;v=k0dSnMa_Iqo"> </a><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg"><u>https://open.spotify.com/show/6lUJfguVjtso0sPEg2wR6t?si=votEkMgqRiq8b_aEKht1gg</u></a></p>
<p>Apple:<a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqbnFfSFBINW9tb2ZoaVdOU1RQQ2c1eXI4ZmhmUXxBQ3Jtc0trY2FCRGQzZkRRLWhncXEzRzhpNlhVSzF3THQ3QUtSekJrUVdDRmFoZGdLZHA5c1lWQ3puVlZ2a2k1RXhWTjE3SEZpSG03TXNRQkRKNTEtaERhMFYzMmNObVlLZlFVc2NLSGR3c3JPbjRhREFuSDRwOA&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fus%2Fpodcast%2Fdown-the-well%2Fid1797861644&amp;v=k0dSnMa_Iqo"> </a><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/down-the-well/id1797861644</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Amazon: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0p4aFo3SlBSNWNpUzhiNktNZnJYR1N5NWdFQXxBQ3Jtc0treFhsQWktbVFmb3dWY3JIR0F2dE5EM1ZEUzlFSTVvQnhURUF3XzNrb1BiU3RTTFc3M3JlOWNQNG5MaXVOWWJkZ0d0NmVmNDE1X2M2czFxMjdDb21seVA1VHNWXzVmajltNzZyMFZkOFdZZHRvVDN0bw&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fmusic.amazon.com%2Fpodcasts%2F2c7a4e4d-b882-4bdd-b1dd-544482840b40%2Fdown-the-well%3Fref%3Ddm_sh_DgQRdGDShoiYlLMZFT3SRJqUd&amp;v=k0dSnMa_Iqo"><u>https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0p4aFo3SlBSNWNpUzhiNkt</u></a></p>
<p>_____</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>About Down The Well:</p>
<p>Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books. Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p>
<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Want a More Peaceful World? Start with Family Dinner</title>
      <description>Sz 1 Ep 11 | In a world that feels increasingly fractured, overwhelmed, and chaotic—what if peace begins not with politicians, but with parents?

In this powerful episode, Elle explores how world peace starts at home. She draws a straight line between how we engage with our children and how we shape the future of our society. This is not about perfection—it’s about presence, intention, and radical gentleness.

🔔 Subscribe for more soul-grounded conversations from the edge of motherhood, identity, and becoming.

💬 Comment below: What does peace look like in your home?

Timestamps:

04:38 - 3 Keys to Peace at Home

04:45 - Teaching peace

09:45 - Safeguarding our homes

18:56 - Cultivating inner peace

24:29 - World Peace Begins at Home t-shirts



Show Links:

World Peace Begins At Home t-shirts

The Humble Village 



Down The Well Links:  

Check out Down The Well on ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠

This episode on YouTube found ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠

Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠⁠

Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowley⁠⁠
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About Down The Well:
Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.
Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2025 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Elle Rowley</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Sz 1 Ep 11 | In a world that feels increasingly fractured, overwhelmed, and chaotic—what if peace begins not with politicians, but with parents?

In this powerful episode, Elle explores how world peace starts at home. She draws a straight line between how we engage with our children and how we shape the future of our society. This is not about perfection—it’s about presence, intention, and radical gentleness.

🔔 Subscribe for more soul-grounded conversations from the edge of motherhood, identity, and becoming.

💬 Comment below: What does peace look like in your home?

Timestamps:

04:38 - 3 Keys to Peace at Home

04:45 - Teaching peace

09:45 - Safeguarding our homes

18:56 - Cultivating inner peace

24:29 - World Peace Begins at Home t-shirts



Show Links:

World Peace Begins At Home t-shirts

The Humble Village 



Down The Well Links:  

Check out Down The Well on ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠

This episode on YouTube found ⁠⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠⁠

Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠⁠

Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowley⁠⁠
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About Down The Well:
Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.
Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sz 1 Ep 11 | In a world that feels increasingly fractured, overwhelmed, and chaotic—what if peace begins not with politicians, but with parents?</p>
<p>In this powerful episode, Elle explores how <strong>world peace starts at home</strong>. She draws a straight line between how we engage with our children and how we shape the future of our society. This is not about perfection—it’s about presence, intention, and radical gentleness.</p>
<p>🔔 Subscribe for more soul-grounded conversations from the edge of motherhood, identity, and becoming.</p>
<p>💬 Comment below: What does peace look like in your home?

<strong>Timestamps:</strong></p>
<p>04:38 - 3 Keys to Peace at Home</p>
<p>04:45 - Teaching peace</p>
<p>09:45 - Safeguarding our homes</p>
<p>18:56 - Cultivating inner peace</p>
<p>24:29 - World Peace Begins at Home t-shirts</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Show Links:</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://www.the-humble-village.org/shop.">World Peace Begins At Home t-shirts</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.the-humble-village.org/">The Humble Village </a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Down The Well Links:  </strong></p>
<p>Check out Down The Well on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well">⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠</a></p>
<p>This episode on YouTube found ⁠⁠⁠<a href="https://youtu.be/4gHucQyXj1A">⁠here⁠</a>⁠⁠⁠</p>
<p>Elle's Substack - <a href="https://substack.com/@ellerowley">⁠⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠⁠</a></p>
<p>Elle's Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ellerowley/">⁠⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowley⁠⁠</a>
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<strong>About Down The Well:</strong>
Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.
Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Perimenopause, Purpose &amp; Letting Go of the Maiden | Chelsea Etheridge </title>
      <description>Sz 1 Ep 10 | What happens when your body changes… and the world doesn’t talk about it?  In this honest episode, Elle speaks with Chelsea Etheridge, founder of Not Young, a supplement company geared towards women in perimenopause.  

Chelsea shares how navigating perimenopause became the unexpected spark for personal transformation and the creation of her platform, Not Young. She opens up about aging, identity, and why the “maiden-obsessed” culture is due for a rewrite.  Take a listen...

Timestamps:
01:46 - Chelsea's story

09:05 - Story of Not Young

10:25 - Signs of perimenopause
16:16 - View on aging

19:03 - Plot twist!

20:18 - Husband's health

26:44 - Mothering today

35:20 - Future of Not Young

Show Links:

Not Young 

Discount Code: SR69JVRINV

Not Young. Better. podcast 

Not Young Instagram



Down The Well Links:  

Check out Down The Well on ⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠

This episode on YouTube found ⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠

Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠

Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowley⁠
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About Down The Well:
Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.
Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2025 10:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>Sz 1 Ep 10 | What happens when your body changes… and the world doesn’t talk about it?  In this honest episode, Elle speaks with Chelsea Etheridge, founder of Not Young, a supplement company geared towards women in perimenopause.  

Chelsea shares how navigating perimenopause became the unexpected spark for personal transformation and the creation of her platform, Not Young. She opens up about aging, identity, and why the “maiden-obsessed” culture is due for a rewrite.  Take a listen...

Timestamps:
01:46 - Chelsea's story

09:05 - Story of Not Young

10:25 - Signs of perimenopause
16:16 - View on aging

19:03 - Plot twist!

20:18 - Husband's health

26:44 - Mothering today

35:20 - Future of Not Young

Show Links:

Not Young 

Discount Code: SR69JVRINV

Not Young. Better. podcast 

Not Young Instagram



Down The Well Links:  

Check out Down The Well on ⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠

This episode on YouTube found ⁠⁠⁠here⁠⁠⁠

Elle's Substack - ⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠

Elle's Instagram - ⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowley⁠
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About Down The Well:
Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.
Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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<p>Chelsea shares how navigating perimenopause became the unexpected spark for personal transformation and the creation of her platform, Not Young. She opens up about aging, identity, and why the “maiden-obsessed” culture is due for a rewrite.  Take a listen...

<strong>Timestamps:</strong>
01:46 - Chelsea's story</p>
<p>09:05 - Story of Not Young</p>
<p>10:25 - Signs of perimenopause
16:16 - View on aging</p>
<p>19:03 - Plot twist!</p>
<p>20:18 - Husband's health</p>
<p>26:44 - Mothering today</p>
<p>35:20 - Future of Not Young</p>
<p><strong>Show Links:</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://www.notyoung.com/?ta_aff=SR69JVRINV">Not Young </a></p>
<p>Discount Code: SR69JVRINV

<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/not-young-better/id1761419300">Not Young. Better. podcast </a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/notyoung.co/">Not Young Instagram</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Down The Well Links:  </strong></p>
<p>Check out Down The Well on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well">⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠</a></p>
<p>This episode on YouTube found ⁠⁠⁠<a href="https://youtu.be/4gHucQyXj1A">here</a>⁠⁠⁠</p>
<p>Elle's Substack - <a href="https://substack.com/@ellerowley">⁠⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠⁠</a></p>
<p>Elle's Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ellerowley/">⁠⁠instagram.com/ellerowley⁠</a>
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<strong>About Down The Well:</strong>
Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.
Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Stoic Motherhood: 6 Ancient Lessons Every Modern Mom Needs</title>
      <description>Sz 1 Ep 9 | Motherhood can feel like a storm—loud, chaotic, and completely overwhelming. But what if the key to peace isn’t fixing the storm... but learning how to stand still within it?

In this episode of Down the Well, Elle dives into six timeless Stoic principles that can transform the way you approach parenting. These lessons offer clarity, peace, and strength for the mother. Take a listen...



Timestamps:

01:22 - What is Stoicism

01:59 - Principle #1

04:40 - Principle #2

05:32 - Principle #3

06:15 - Principle #4

07:54 - Mantras

08:30 - Principle #5

10:40 - Principle #6



Down The Well Links:  

Check out Down The Well on ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠

This episode on YouTube found ⁠⁠here⁠⁠



Elle's Substack - ⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠



Elle's Instagram - ⁠instagram.com/ellerowley⁠

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About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2025 13:13:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Sz 1 Ep 9 | Motherhood can feel like a storm—loud, chaotic, and completely overwhelming. But what if the key to peace isn’t fixing the storm... but learning how to stand still within it?

In this episode of Down the Well, Elle dives into six timeless Stoic principles that can transform the way you approach parenting. These lessons offer clarity, peace, and strength for the mother. Take a listen...



Timestamps:

01:22 - What is Stoicism

01:59 - Principle #1

04:40 - Principle #2

05:32 - Principle #3

06:15 - Principle #4

07:54 - Mantras

08:30 - Principle #5

10:40 - Principle #6



Down The Well Links:  

Check out Down The Well on ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠

This episode on YouTube found ⁠⁠here⁠⁠



Elle's Substack - ⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠



Elle's Instagram - ⁠instagram.com/ellerowley⁠

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About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sz 1 Ep 9 | Motherhood can feel like a storm—loud, chaotic, and completely overwhelming. But what if the key to peace isn’t fixing the storm... but learning how to stand still within it?</p>
<p>In this episode of <em>Down the Well</em>, Elle dives into six timeless Stoic principles that can transform the way you approach parenting. These lessons offer clarity, peace, and strength for the mother. Take a listen...</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p>
<p>01:22 - What is Stoicism</p>
<p>01:59 - Principle #1</p>
<p>04:40 - Principle #2</p>
<p>05:32 - Principle #3</p>
<p>06:15 - Principle #4</p>
<p>07:54 - Mantras</p>
<p>08:30 - Principle #5</p>
<p>10:40 - Principle #6</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Down The Well Links:  </strong></p>
<p>Check out Down The Well on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well">⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠</a></p>
<p>This episode on YouTube found ⁠⁠<a href="https://youtu.be/MCcAswzg7HE">here⁠⁠</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Elle's Substack - <a href="https://substack.com/@ellerowley">⁠https://substack.com/@ellerowley⁠</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Elle's Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ellerowley/">⁠instagram.com/ellerowley⁠</a></p>
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<p><strong>About Down The Well:</strong></p>
<p>Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.</p>
<p>Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>How To Stop Overreacting As A Mom (And What To Do Instead)</title>
      <description>Sz 1 Ep 8 | On the path of the mother's hero's journey, we are often confronted with challenges.  As we strive to navigate these obstacles with open-heartedness, curiosity, and humility, sometimes we fall short and allow our emotions to take control.  A certified life coach, Elle teaches proven and practical techniques for on-the-spot emotional regulation that will help any mom become the person she wants to be.  Take a listen...



Timestamps:

00:21 - Understanding the Mother's Hero's Journey

01:26 - Challenges and Emotions in Motherhood

06:13  - Tools for Self-Coaching: The 1-2-3 Approach

16:02  - Thought Model - CTFAR 

27:53 -  Conclusion and Final Thoughts



Down The Well Links:  

Episode 2 with Lisa Marchiano here &amp; on YouTube



Check out Down The Well on ⁠YouTube⁠

This episode on YouTube found ⁠here⁠



Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley



Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

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About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2025 22:32:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Sz 1 Ep 8 | On the path of the mother's hero's journey, we are often confronted with challenges.  As we strive to navigate these obstacles with open-heartedness, curiosity, and humility, sometimes we fall short and allow our emotions to take control.  A certified life coach, Elle teaches proven and practical techniques for on-the-spot emotional regulation that will help any mom become the person she wants to be.  Take a listen...



Timestamps:

00:21 - Understanding the Mother's Hero's Journey

01:26 - Challenges and Emotions in Motherhood

06:13  - Tools for Self-Coaching: The 1-2-3 Approach

16:02  - Thought Model - CTFAR 

27:53 -  Conclusion and Final Thoughts



Down The Well Links:  

Episode 2 with Lisa Marchiano here &amp; on YouTube



Check out Down The Well on ⁠YouTube⁠

This episode on YouTube found ⁠here⁠



Elle's Substack - https://substack.com/@ellerowley



Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

-----

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.

Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sz 1 Ep 8 | On the path of the mother's hero's journey, we are often confronted with challenges.  As we strive to navigate these obstacles with open-heartedness, curiosity, and humility, sometimes we fall short and allow our emotions to take control.  A certified life coach, Elle teaches proven and practical techniques for on-the-spot emotional regulation that will help any mom become the person she wants to be.  Take a listen...</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p>
<p>00:21 - Understanding the Mother's Hero's Journey</p>
<p>01:26 - Challenges and Emotions in Motherhood</p>
<p>06:13  - Tools for Self-Coaching: The 1-2-3 Approach</p>
<p>16:02  - Thought Model - CTFAR </p>
<p>27:53 -  Conclusion and Final Thoughts</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Down The Well Links:  </strong></p>
<p>Episode 2 with Lisa Marchiano <a href="https://traffic.megaphone.fm/ATHLLC7185888281.mp3?updated=1740630152">here</a> &amp; on <a href="https://youtu.be/2qAoKVAZTLc?si=UrZptUSPT30Hl8uL">YouTube</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Check out Down The Well on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well">⁠YouTube⁠</a></p>
<p>This episode on YouTube found <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_5EuKMkYdE">⁠here⁠</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Elle's Substack - <a href="https://substack.com/@ellerowley">https://substack.com/@ellerowley</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Elle's Instagram - <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ellerowley/">instagram.com/ellerowley</a></p>
<p>-----</p>
<p><strong>About Down The Well:</strong></p>
<p>Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.</p>
<p>Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Has Science Proved That Homeschooling Is Better? | Liz Black</title>
      <description>Sz 1 Ep 7 | Education is an essential part of parenting.  Yet, the decision of how to best educate your children when you're down the proverbial well may feel overwhelming from the number of options, the best fit for each child, or frustration with your current situation.  Elle speaks with Liz Black, an education specialist and consultant, about the benefits of homebased schooling. Take a listen...



Timestamps:

03:15 - why homeschool is gaining popularity

09:40 - homeschool vs. homebased education

14:06 - what and how to teach

15:43 - will my child get into college with a homeschool education

16:55 - will my child fall behind

18:32 - phases of learning

24:12 - enough socialization

26:40 - extra curricular activities

28:15 - where to start homeschooling

28:58 - can I work and homeschool

30:31 - can families without financial resources homeschool

33:43 - what if I mess this homeschool thing up

39:29 - markers of success

47:17 - what if you're feeling homeschool is not hitting the mark



Down The Well Links:  

Alcott Learning 

Check out Down The Well on YouTube

This episode on YouTube found here



Elle's Substack - substack.com/@ellerowley



Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

-----

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.



Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2025 14:44:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Elle Rowley</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Sz 1 Ep 7 | Education is an essential part of parenting.  Yet, the decision of how to best educate your children when you're down the proverbial well may feel overwhelming from the number of options, the best fit for each child, or frustration with your current situation.  Elle speaks with Liz Black, an education specialist and consultant, about the benefits of homebased schooling. Take a listen...



Timestamps:

03:15 - why homeschool is gaining popularity

09:40 - homeschool vs. homebased education

14:06 - what and how to teach

15:43 - will my child get into college with a homeschool education

16:55 - will my child fall behind

18:32 - phases of learning

24:12 - enough socialization

26:40 - extra curricular activities

28:15 - where to start homeschooling

28:58 - can I work and homeschool

30:31 - can families without financial resources homeschool

33:43 - what if I mess this homeschool thing up

39:29 - markers of success

47:17 - what if you're feeling homeschool is not hitting the mark



Down The Well Links:  

Alcott Learning 

Check out Down The Well on YouTube

This episode on YouTube found here



Elle's Substack - substack.com/@ellerowley



Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

-----

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.



Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Sz 1 Ep 7 | Education is an essential part of parenting.  Yet, the decision of how to best educate your children when you're down the proverbial well may feel overwhelming from the number of options, the best fit for each child, or frustration with your current situation.  Elle speaks with Liz Black, an education specialist and consultant, about the benefits of homebased schooling. Take a listen...</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p>
<p>03:15 - why homeschool is gaining popularity</p>
<p>09:40 - homeschool vs. homebased education</p>
<p>14:06 - what and how to teach</p>
<p>15:43 - will my child get into college with a homeschool education</p>
<p>16:55 - will my child fall behind</p>
<p>18:32 - phases of learning</p>
<p>24:12 - enough socialization</p>
<p>26:40 - extra curricular activities</p>
<p>28:15 - where to start homeschooling</p>
<p>28:58 - can I work and homeschool</p>
<p>30:31 - can families without financial resources homeschool</p>
<p>33:43 - what if I mess this homeschool thing up</p>
<p>39:29 - markers of success</p>
<p>47:17 - what if you're feeling homeschool is not hitting the mark</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Down The Well Links:  </strong></p>
<p><a href="https://alcottlearning.com/"><strong>Alcott Learning </strong></a></p>
<p>Check out Down The Well on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well">YouTube</a></p>
<p>This episode on YouTube found <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_5EuKMkYdE">here</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Elle's Substack - substack.com/@ellerowley</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley</p>
<p>-----</p>
<p><strong>About Down The Well:</strong></p>
<p>Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>5 Life-Changing Matriarch Secrets from Grandma Moses</title>
      <description>Sz 1 Ep 6 |  In our pursuit of a meaningful life, perhaps the answers we seek are found in the past. In this episode of Down The Well, Elle talks about the 5 life-changing lessons from the well known American matriarch, Grandma Moses. Find out how this humble woman led a life of pure inspiration.  Take a listen...



Timestamps:

08:42 - Lesson #1

15:57 - Lesson #2

22:46 - Lesson #3

29:29 - Lesson #4

34:05 - Lesson #5



Down The Well Links:  

Check out Down The Well on YouTube

This episode on YouTube found here



Elle's Substack - substack.com/@ellerowley



Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

-----

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.



Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 14:45:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Elle Rowley</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Sz 1 Ep 6 |  In our pursuit of a meaningful life, perhaps the answers we seek are found in the past. In this episode of Down The Well, Elle talks about the 5 life-changing lessons from the well known American matriarch, Grandma Moses. Find out how this humble woman led a life of pure inspiration.  Take a listen...



Timestamps:

08:42 - Lesson #1

15:57 - Lesson #2

22:46 - Lesson #3

29:29 - Lesson #4

34:05 - Lesson #5



Down The Well Links:  

Check out Down The Well on YouTube

This episode on YouTube found here



Elle's Substack - substack.com/@ellerowley



Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

-----

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.



Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Sz 1 Ep 6 |  In our pursuit of a meaningful life, perhaps the answers we seek are found in the past. In this episode of Down The Well, Elle talks about the 5 life-changing lessons from the well known American matriarch, Grandma Moses. Find out how this humble woman led a life of pure inspiration.  Take a listen...</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p>
<p>08:42 - Lesson #1</p>
<p>15:57 - Lesson #2</p>
<p>22:46 - Lesson #3</p>
<p>29:29 - Lesson #4</p>
<p>34:05 - Lesson #5</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Down The Well Links:  </strong></p>
<p>Check out Down The Well on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well">YouTube</a></p>
<p>This episode on YouTube found <a href="https://youtu.be/M3s0dkoJBqc">here</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Elle's Substack - substack.com/@ellerowley</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley</p>
<p>-----</p>
<p><strong>About Down The Well:</strong></p>
<p>Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>The REAL Reason 47% of Women Don’t Want Children</title>
      <description>Sz 1 Ep 5 | We are so afraid of aging - just think about all the anti-aging products, procedures, and plans. This cultural obsession with youthfulness is taking over the female journey of maiden to mother to matriarch.  Elle discusses the importance of this journey and how each female archetype enlightens, inspires and helps us evolve as women.  Take a listen...



Timestamps:

03:28 - The Maiden

06:58 - The Mother

16:33 - The Matriarch



Links:

Down The Well Links:  

Check out Down The Well on YouTube

This episode on YouTube:  https://youtu.be/miYICSde6Q4



Elle's Substack - substack.com/@ellerowley



Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

-----

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.



Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2025 10:31:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Elle Rowley</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Sz 1 Ep 5 | We are so afraid of aging - just think about all the anti-aging products, procedures, and plans. This cultural obsession with youthfulness is taking over the female journey of maiden to mother to matriarch.  Elle discusses the importance of this journey and how each female archetype enlightens, inspires and helps us evolve as women.  Take a listen...



Timestamps:

03:28 - The Maiden

06:58 - The Mother

16:33 - The Matriarch



Links:

Down The Well Links:  

Check out Down The Well on YouTube

This episode on YouTube:  https://youtu.be/miYICSde6Q4



Elle's Substack - substack.com/@ellerowley



Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

-----

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.



Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Sz 1 Ep 5 | We are so afraid of aging - just think about all the anti-aging products, procedures, and plans. This cultural obsession with youthfulness is taking over the female journey of maiden to mother to matriarch.  Elle discusses the importance of this journey and how each female archetype enlightens, inspires and helps us evolve as women.  Take a listen...</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Timestamps:</strong></p>
<p>03:28 - The Maiden</p>
<p>06:58 - The Mother</p>
<p>16:33 - The Matriarch</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Links:</strong></p>
<p><strong>Down The Well Links:  </strong></p>
<p>Check out Down The Well on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well">YouTube</a></p>
<p>This episode on YouTube:  https://youtu.be/miYICSde6Q4</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Elle's Substack - substack.com/@ellerowley</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley</p>
<p>-----</p>
<p><strong>About Down The Well:</strong></p>
<p>Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>We Paid Our Kids To Go Sugar-Free For A Year | The Results</title>
      <description>Sz 1 Ep 4 | The addiction to sugar is real. It affects how we think and feel. So, Elle and her family took on the challenge of one year without sugar. Listen to how they did it, the challenges, the benefits and more.



Links:



Down The Well Links:  

Check out Down The Well on YouTube

This episode on YouTube:  https://youtu.be/miYICSde6Q4



Elle's Substack - substack.com/@ellerowley



Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

-----

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.



Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2025 11:50:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Elle Rowley</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Sz 1 Ep 4 | The addiction to sugar is real. It affects how we think and feel. So, Elle and her family took on the challenge of one year without sugar. Listen to how they did it, the challenges, the benefits and more.



Links:



Down The Well Links:  

Check out Down The Well on YouTube

This episode on YouTube:  https://youtu.be/miYICSde6Q4



Elle's Substack - substack.com/@ellerowley



Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

-----

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.



Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Sz 1 Ep 4 | The addiction to sugar is real. It affects how we think and feel. So, Elle and her family took on the challenge of one year without sugar. Listen to how they did it, the challenges, the benefits and more.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Links:</strong></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Down The Well Links:  </strong></p>
<p>Check out Down The Well on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well">YouTube</a></p>
<p>This episode on YouTube:  https://youtu.be/miYICSde6Q4</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Elle's Substack - substack.com/@ellerowley</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley</p>
<p>-----</p>
<p><strong>About Down The Well:</strong></p>
<p>Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Why Your 'Self-Care' Makes You Feel WORSE | 7 Better Options for Moms</title>
      <description>Sz 1 Ep 3 |  What is true self-care? What does it mean to a mother? On this episode of Down The Well, Elle explores the meaning of true self-care and not simply the distractions or indulgences that the world offers. Take a listen to the suggestions she gives mothers to help them live their best life.



Links:

Yoga Nidra Videos



The Fourth Trimester: A Postpartum Guide to Healing Your Body, Balancing Your Emotions, and Restoring Your Vitality



Down The Well Links:  

Check out Down The Well on YouTube

This episode on YouTube:  https://youtu.be/miYICSde6Q4



Elle's Substack - substack.com/@ellerowley



Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

-----

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.



Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2025 11:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Elle Rowley</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Sz 1 Ep 3 |  What is true self-care? What does it mean to a mother? On this episode of Down The Well, Elle explores the meaning of true self-care and not simply the distractions or indulgences that the world offers. Take a listen to the suggestions she gives mothers to help them live their best life.



Links:

Yoga Nidra Videos



The Fourth Trimester: A Postpartum Guide to Healing Your Body, Balancing Your Emotions, and Restoring Your Vitality



Down The Well Links:  

Check out Down The Well on YouTube

This episode on YouTube:  https://youtu.be/miYICSde6Q4



Elle's Substack - substack.com/@ellerowley



Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley

-----

About Down The Well:

Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.



Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Sz 1 Ep 3 |  What is true self-care? What does it mean to a mother? On this episode of Down The Well, Elle explores the meaning of true self-care and not simply the distractions or indulgences that the world offers. Take a listen to the suggestions she gives mothers to help them live their best life.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Links:</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@SarovaraYoga/videos">Yoga Nidra Videos</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><a href="https://a.co/d/e0XRy9B">The Fourth Trimester: A Postpartum Guide to Healing Your Body, Balancing Your Emotions, and Restoring Your Vitality</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Down The Well Links:  </strong></p>
<p>Check out Down The Well on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@Down-The-Well">YouTube</a></p>
<p>This episode on YouTube:  https://youtu.be/miYICSde6Q4</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Elle's Substack - substack.com/@ellerowley</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Elle's Instagram - instagram.com/ellerowley</p>
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<p><strong>About Down The Well:</strong></p>
<p>Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.</p>
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<p>Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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01:17 - Lisa's background

03:03 - Falling down the well

08:15 - What is the hero's journey for a mother

14:40 - Difference between sacrifice and martyrdom

19:44 - The idea of the eternal girl

27:27 - Navigating old wounds with our children

45:54 - Understanding rage 



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Lisa Marchiano

Motherhood:  Facing and Finding Yourself

This Jungian Life podcast



YouTube: @Down-The-Well 

https://substack.com/@ellerowley

https://www.instagram.com/ellerowley/

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Motherhood should be full of joy and meaning. But it often isn't. Why is that? On Down the Well, Elle Rowley, talks through the mother's hero's journey, and why it's different from the one you might have learned in school or books.



Unlike the traditional hero's journey, mothers have to descend into the depths of their own soul. No one comes out of motherhood the same, and with the right perspective and resources, we can make sure that transformation is for the better.
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Timestamps:

01:17 - Lisa's background

03:03 - Falling down the well

08:15 - What is the hero's journey for a mother

14:40 - Difference between sacrifice and martyrdom

19:44 - The idea of the eternal girl

27:27 - Navigating old wounds with our children

45:54 - Understanding rage 



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Lisa Marchiano

Motherhood:  Facing and Finding Yourself

This Jungian Life podcast



YouTube: @Down-The-Well 

https://substack.com/@ellerowley

https://www.instagram.com/ellerowley/

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