CISO Perspectives (public) https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives en © 2025 N2K Networks, Inc. 706761 This season on CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones explores some of the challenges of leading through uncertainty. We explore the complexity of the changing nature of regulation and working with the federal government, the evolution of privacy and fraud, and how emerging technologies like AI and quantum computing are changing cyber. When you don’t know what questions to ask, you’re afraid to ask, or don’t know who to ask, CISO Perspectives provides the foundation for learning in this brave new world. https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/79d30abe-9bac-11eb-98a9-33a1e48b6187/image/f882e40a02fd04121e447d6102f1061d.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress CISO Perspectives (public) https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives no episodic N2K Networks This season on CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones explores some of the challenges of leading through uncertainty. We explore the complexity of the changing nature of regulation and working with the federal government, the evolution of privacy and fraud, and how emerging technologies like AI and quantum computing are changing cyber. When you don’t know what questions to ask, you’re afraid to ask, or don’t know who to ask, CISO Perspectives provides the foundation for learning in this brave new world. This season on CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones explores some of the challenges of leading through uncertainty. We explore the complexity of the changing nature of regulation and working with the federal government, the evolution of privacy and fraud, and how emerging technologies like AI and quantum computing are changing cyber. When you don’t know what questions to ask, you’re afraid to ask, or don’t know who to ask, CISO Perspectives provides the foundation for learning in this brave new world.

]]> N2K Networks, Inc. producer@n2k.com Bringing it all together. https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/132/notes Please enjoy this encore of CISO Perspectives. In the season finale of CISOP, Kim Jones is joined by N2K’s own Ethan Cook to reflect on the conversations that shaped this season. Together, they revisit standout moments from Kim’s interviews, unpacking their significance and getting Ethan’s fresh perspective on the cybersecurity workforce challenge—as someone viewing the industry from the outside. Since the mid-season reflection, Kim has explored a wide range of workforce issues, including skills mapping, talent identification, and the evolving strategies needed to close cybersecurity’s talent gap. Tue, 31 Mar 2026 06:00:00 -0000 Bringing it all together. full 16 132 N2K Networks Please enjoy this encore of CISO Perspectives. In the season finale of CISOP, Kim Jones is joined by N2K’s own Ethan Cook to reflect on the conversations that shaped this season. Together, they revisit standout moments from Kim’s interviews, unpacking their significance and getting Ethan’s fresh perspective on the cybersecurity workforce challenge—as someone viewing the industry from the outside. Since the mid-season reflection, Kim has explored a wide range of workforce issues, including skills mapping, talent identification, and the evolving strategies needed to close cybersecurity’s talent gap. Please enjoy this encore of CISO Perspectives.

In the season finale of CISOP, Kim Jones is joined by N2K’s own Ethan Cook to reflect on the conversations that shaped this season. Together, they revisit standout moments from Kim’s interviews, unpacking their significance and getting Ethan’s fresh perspective on the cybersecurity workforce challenge—as someone viewing the industry from the outside.

Since the mid-season reflection, Kim has explored a wide range of workforce issues, including skills mapping, talent identification, and the evolving strategies needed to close cybersecurity’s talent gap.

]]> 3282 no Why is the vendor role so contentious in the cyber ecosystem? https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/131/notes As the emphasis on improving cybersecurity has continued to grow, so has the number of vendors offering a range of cybersecurity services. However, despite the value many of these vendors bring, the relationship between vendors and clients has become strained. In this episode, Kim explores this relationship, offering his thoughts on this relationship and what both sides can do to better to improve this dynamic. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals. Fri, 27 Mar 2026 06:00:00 -0000 Why is the vendor role so contentious in the cyber ecosystem? full 16 131 N2K Networks As the emphasis on improving cybersecurity has continued to grow, so has the number of vendors offering a range of cybersecurity services. However, despite the value many of these vendors bring, the relationship between vendors and clients has become strained. In this episode, Kim explores this relationship, offering his thoughts on this relationship and what both sides can do to better to improve this dynamic. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals. As the emphasis on improving cybersecurity has continued to grow, so has the number of vendors offering a range of cybersecurity services. However, despite the value many of these vendors bring, the relationship between vendors and clients has become strained. In this episode, Kim explores this relationship, offering his thoughts on this relationship and what both sides can do to better to improve this dynamic.

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Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals.

]]> 892 no But what do you really want? https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/130/notes Despite being adopted and prioritized by many organizations, cybersecurity still faces a significant challenge where leaders still cannot articulate their needs, and find and develop talent. Rather, organizations oftentimes follow the same strategy many others are utilizing, which involves poaching talent with enticing salaries. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Ed Vasko, the CEO at High Wire Networks, to discuss this approach and the impacts it is having on the cyber talent ecosystem. Throughout the conversation, Ed and Kim discuss their experience when assessing talent and some of the mistakes made by the industry, and what can be done to begin correcting this approach. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals. Tue, 24 Mar 2026 06:00:00 -0000 But what do you really want? full 16 130 N2K Networks Despite being adopted and prioritized by many organizations, cybersecurity still faces a significant challenge where leaders still cannot articulate their needs, and find and develop talent. Rather, organizations oftentimes follow the same strategy many others are utilizing, which involves poaching talent with enticing salaries. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Ed Vasko, the CEO at High Wire Networks, to discuss this approach and the impacts it is having on the cyber talent ecosystem. Throughout the conversation, Ed and Kim discuss their experience when assessing talent and some of the mistakes made by the industry, and what can be done to begin correcting this approach. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals. Despite being adopted and prioritized by many organizations, cybersecurity still faces a significant challenge where leaders still cannot articulate their needs, and find and develop talent. Rather, organizations oftentimes follow the same strategy many others are utilizing, which involves poaching talent with enticing salaries.

In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Ed Vasko, the CEO at High Wire Networks, to discuss this approach and the impacts it is having on the cyber talent ecosystem. Throughout the conversation, Ed and Kim discuss their experience when assessing talent and some of the mistakes made by the industry, and what can be done to begin correcting this approach.

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Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals.

]]> 2527 no Strategic approaches to talent: A practical guide. https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/129/notes Even as cybersecurity has grown and become universially accepted, the field has continued to struggle when attempting to assess and aquire talent. Oftentimes, there is a disconnect between what organizations need and what they interview for leading vague job postings and ineffective hirings. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Jeff Welgan, the Chief Strategist and CEO at SkillRex, to discuss how we assess talent. Throughout the conversation, Jeff and Kim will discuss the problems associated with traditional workforce management and how modernizing this approach can provide a strategic advantage. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals. Fri, 20 Mar 2026 06:00:00 -0000 Strategic approaches to talent: A practical guide. full 16 129 N2K Networks Even as cybersecurity has grown and become universially accepted, the field has continued to struggle when attempting to assess and aquire talent. Oftentimes, there is a disconnect between what organizations need and what they interview for leading vague job postings and ineffective hirings. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Jeff Welgan, the Chief Strategist and CEO at SkillRex, to discuss how we assess talent. Throughout the conversation, Jeff and Kim will discuss the problems associated with traditional workforce management and how modernizing this approach can provide a strategic advantage. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals. Even as cybersecurity has grown and become universially accepted, the field has continued to struggle when attempting to assess and aquire talent. Oftentimes, there is a disconnect between what organizations need and what they interview for leading vague job postings and ineffective hirings.

In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Jeff Welgan, the Chief Strategist and CEO at SkillRex, to discuss how we assess talent. Throughout the conversation, Jeff and Kim will discuss the problems associated with traditional workforce management and how modernizing this approach can provide a strategic advantage.

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Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals.

]]> 2542 no Mid season reflection with Kim Jones. https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/128/notes In this mid-season episode, Kim takes a step back to reflect on the journey so far—revisiting key conversations, standout moments, and recurring themes that have shaped the season. During the episode, Kim sits down with N2K's own Ethan Cook to connect the dots across episodes, uncovering deeper patterns and takeaways. Whether you're catching up or tuning in weekly, this episode offers a thoughtful recap and fresh perspective on where we've been—and what's still to come. Tue, 17 Mar 2026 06:00:00 -0000 Mid season reflection with Kim Jones. full 16 128 N2K Networks In this mid-season episode, Kim takes a step back to reflect on the journey so far—revisiting key conversations, standout moments, and recurring themes that have shaped the season. During the episode, Kim sits down with N2K's own Ethan Cook to connect the dots across episodes, uncovering deeper patterns and takeaways. Whether you're catching up or tuning in weekly, this episode offers a thoughtful recap and fresh perspective on where we've been—and what's still to come. In this mid-season episode, Kim takes a step back to reflect on the journey so far—revisiting key conversations, standout moments, and recurring themes that have shaped the season. During the episode, Kim sits down with N2K's own Ethan Cook to connect the dots across episodes, uncovering deeper patterns and takeaways. Whether you're catching up or tuning in weekly, this episode offers a thoughtful recap and fresh perspective on where we've been—and what's still to come.

]]> 2487 no Is the role of the CISO adding to the confusion? https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/127/notes Show Notes: As cybersecurity has matured, the field has become more formalized within businesses with CISOs leading the way. However, despite the value of the CISO and its widespread adoption, the role has continued to lose agency with other board members. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Patty Ryan, the CISO at QuidelOrtho, to assess the value of the role. Throughout the conversation, Patty and Kim will discuss the challenges facing CISOs, why the role has lost its agency, and what can be done to reverse the current trajectory. Want more CISO Perspectives?: Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals. Fri, 13 Mar 2026 06:00:00 -0000 Is the role of the CISO adding to the confusion? full 16 127 N2K Networks Show Notes: As cybersecurity has matured, the field has become more formalized within businesses with CISOs leading the way. However, despite the value of the CISO and its widespread adoption, the role has continued to lose agency with other board members. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Patty Ryan, the CISO at QuidelOrtho, to assess the value of the role. Throughout the conversation, Patty and Kim will discuss the challenges facing CISOs, why the role has lost its agency, and what can be done to reverse the current trajectory. Want more CISO Perspectives?: Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals. Show Notes:

As cybersecurity has matured, the field has become more formalized within businesses with CISOs leading the way. However, despite the value of the CISO and its widespread adoption, the role has continued to lose agency with other board members. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Patty Ryan, the CISO at QuidelOrtho, to assess the value of the role. Throughout the conversation, Patty and Kim will discuss the challenges facing CISOs, why the role has lost its agency, and what can be done to reverse the current trajectory.

Want more CISO Perspectives?:

Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals.

]]> 2687 no What role does higher education play in cyber? https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/126/notes Show Notes: Cybersecurity has continued to grow and mature as a field over the past decade which has given rise to numerous degree pathways across dozens of collegiate institutions; however, the value of these degrees has continued to be a topic of debate. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Dr. Lara Ferry, the Vice President of Research at Arizona State University, to explore higher education's role in cyber. Throughout the conversation, Lara and Kim will discuss the challenges facing degree programs, the disconnects between organizations and institutions, and how the gap can be better addressed. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals. Tue, 10 Mar 2026 06:00:00 -0000 What role does higher education play in cyber? full 16 126 N2K Networks Show Notes: Cybersecurity has continued to grow and mature as a field over the past decade which has given rise to numerous degree pathways across dozens of collegiate institutions; however, the value of these degrees has continued to be a topic of debate. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Dr. Lara Ferry, the Vice President of Research at Arizona State University, to explore higher education's role in cyber. Throughout the conversation, Lara and Kim will discuss the challenges facing degree programs, the disconnects between organizations and institutions, and how the gap can be better addressed. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals. Show Notes:

Cybersecurity has continued to grow and mature as a field over the past decade which has given rise to numerous degree pathways across dozens of collegiate institutions; however, the value of these degrees has continued to be a topic of debate. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Dr. Lara Ferry, the Vice President of Research at Arizona State University, to explore higher education's role in cyber. Throughout the conversation, Lara and Kim will discuss the challenges facing degree programs, the disconnects between organizations and institutions, and how the gap can be better addressed.

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Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals.

]]> 2662 no Do certifications matter? https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/125/notes Show Notes: As the cybersecurity industry has grown, the field has struggled to answer the question: do certifications matter? In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with N2K's own, ⁠Simone Petrella, to answer this question and discuss why the value of certifications continue to be debated. Throughout the conversation, Simone and Kim will discuss the challenges associated with certifications, and how the industry can adjust the ways it sees and utilizes them. Got cybersecurity, IT, or project management certification goals?Want more CISO Perspectives?: For the past 25 years, N2K's practice tests have helped more than half a million professionals reach certification success. Grow your career and reach your goals faster with N2K’s full exam prep of practice tests, labs, and training courses for Microsoft, CompTIA, PMI, Amazon, and more at n2k.com/certify. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals. Fri, 06 Mar 2026 07:00:00 -0000 Do certifications matter? full 16 125 N2K Networks Show Notes: As the cybersecurity industry has grown, the field has struggled to answer the question: do certifications matter? In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with N2K's own, ⁠Simone Petrella, to answer this question and discuss why the value of certifications continue to be debated. Throughout the conversation, Simone and Kim will discuss the challenges associated with certifications, and how the industry can adjust the ways it sees and utilizes them. Got cybersecurity, IT, or project management certification goals?Want more CISO Perspectives?: For the past 25 years, N2K's practice tests have helped more than half a million professionals reach certification success. Grow your career and reach your goals faster with N2K’s full exam prep of practice tests, labs, and training courses for Microsoft, CompTIA, PMI, Amazon, and more at n2k.com/certify. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals. Show Notes:

As the cybersecurity industry has grown, the field has struggled to answer the question: do certifications matter? In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with N2K's own, ⁠Simone Petrella, to answer this question and discuss why the value of certifications continue to be debated. Throughout the conversation, Simone and Kim will discuss the challenges associated with certifications, and how the industry can adjust the ways it sees and utilizes them.

Got cybersecurity, IT, or project management certification goals?Want more CISO Perspectives?:

For the past 25 years, N2K's practice tests have helped more than half a million professionals reach certification success. Grow your career and reach your goals faster with N2K’s full exam prep of practice tests, labs, and training courses for Microsoft, CompTIA, PMI, Amazon, and more at n2k.com/certify.

Want more CISO Perspectives?

Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals.

]]> 2733 no Does diversity matter in cyber? https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/124/notes Show Notes: As cybersecurity matures, one area still lags: diversity. In this thought-provoking episode of CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones takes the mic solo to address a topic that remains both critical and controversial. Kim explores the current state of diversity in the cybersecurity field, why progress has been slow, and how inclusive teams drive greater innovation and resilience. Tune in for an honest conversation that challenges the status quo and pushes the industry forward. Want more CISO Perspectives?: Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals. Tue, 03 Mar 2026 07:00:00 -0000 Does diversity matter in cyber? full 16 124 N2K Networks Show Notes: As cybersecurity matures, one area still lags: diversity. In this thought-provoking episode of CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones takes the mic solo to address a topic that remains both critical and controversial. Kim explores the current state of diversity in the cybersecurity field, why progress has been slow, and how inclusive teams drive greater innovation and resilience. Tune in for an honest conversation that challenges the status quo and pushes the industry forward. Want more CISO Perspectives?: Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals. Show Notes:

As cybersecurity matures, one area still lags: diversity. In this thought-provoking episode of CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones takes the mic solo to address a topic that remains both critical and controversial. Kim explores the current state of diversity in the cybersecurity field, why progress has been slow, and how inclusive teams drive greater innovation and resilience. Tune in for an honest conversation that challenges the status quo and pushes the industry forward.

Want more CISO Perspectives?:

Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals.

]]> 1215 no How do you gain “experience” in cyber without a job in cyber? https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/109/notes Please enjoy this encore of CISO Perspectives. Show Notes: While the cybersecurity industry has expanded and grown in recent years, newcomers still struggle to gain relevant "experience" before officially beginning their cyber careers. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones sits down with Kathleen Smith, the Chief Outreach Officer at clearedjobs.net and the co-host of Security Cleared Jobs: Who’s Hiring & How, to discuss this dilemma and what new entrants can do to account for these difficulties. Throughout the conversation, Kathleen and Kim will discuss the challenges associated with entry-level cyber positions, how to gain meaningful experience, and how the industry as a whole contributes to this problem. Want more CISO Perspectives?: Check out a companion ⁠blog post⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals. Tue, 27 Jan 2026 07:00:00 -0000 How do you gain “experience” in cyber without a job in cyber? full 16 109 N2K Networks Please enjoy this encore of CISO Perspectives. Show Notes: While the cybersecurity industry has expanded and grown in recent years, newcomers still struggle to gain relevant "experience" before officially beginning their cyber careers. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones sits down with Kathleen Smith, the Chief Outreach Officer at clearedjobs.net and the co-host of Security Cleared Jobs: Who’s Hiring & How, to discuss this dilemma and what new entrants can do to account for these difficulties. Throughout the conversation, Kathleen and Kim will discuss the challenges associated with entry-level cyber positions, how to gain meaningful experience, and how the industry as a whole contributes to this problem. Want more CISO Perspectives?: Check out a companion ⁠blog post⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals. Please enjoy this encore of CISO Perspectives.

Show Notes:

While the cybersecurity industry has expanded and grown in recent years, newcomers still struggle to gain relevant "experience" before officially beginning their cyber careers. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones sits down with Kathleen Smith, the Chief Outreach Officer at clearedjobs.net and the co-host of Security Cleared Jobs: Who’s Hiring & How, to discuss this dilemma and what new entrants can do to account for these difficulties. Throughout the conversation, Kathleen and Kim will discuss the challenges associated with entry-level cyber positions, how to gain meaningful experience, and how the industry as a whole contributes to this problem.


Want more CISO Perspectives?:

Check out a companion ⁠blog post⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals.

]]> 2357 no Are we a trade or a profession? https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/108/notes Please enjoy this encore of CISO Perspectives. Show Notes: Cybersecurity has an identity problem where the industry as a whole is struggling to determine whether it is a trade or a profession. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones sits down with Larry Whiteside Jr., the Chief Advisory Officer for The CISO Society, to discuss this identity crisis and how the industry as a whole connects to both of these labels. Throughout the conversation, Larry and Kim will discuss the merits and drawbacks of both labels and how cybersecurity does not solely fall into one category or the other. Want more CISO Perspectives?: Check out a companion blog post by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals. Tue, 20 Jan 2026 07:00:00 -0000 Are we a trade or a profession? full 16 108 N2K Networks Please enjoy this encore of CISO Perspectives. Show Notes: Cybersecurity has an identity problem where the industry as a whole is struggling to determine whether it is a trade or a profession. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones sits down with Larry Whiteside Jr., the Chief Advisory Officer for The CISO Society, to discuss this identity crisis and how the industry as a whole connects to both of these labels. Throughout the conversation, Larry and Kim will discuss the merits and drawbacks of both labels and how cybersecurity does not solely fall into one category or the other. Want more CISO Perspectives?: Check out a companion blog post by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals. Please enjoy this encore of CISO Perspectives.

Show Notes:

Cybersecurity has an identity problem where the industry as a whole is struggling to determine whether it is a trade or a profession. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones sits down with Larry Whiteside Jr., the Chief Advisory Officer for The CISO Society, to discuss this identity crisis and how the industry as a whole connects to both of these labels. Throughout the conversation, Larry and Kim will discuss the merits and drawbacks of both labels and how cybersecurity does not solely fall into one category or the other.


Want more CISO Perspectives?:

Check out a companion blog post by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals.

]]> 2673 no Is the cyber talent ecosystem broken? https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/107/notes Please enjoy this encore of CISO Perspectives Show Notes: The cyber talent ecosystem faces severe indigestion, which has stifled growth and closed doors to new talent. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones sits down with Ed Adams, the Head of Cybersecurity for North America at the Bureau Veritas Group, to discuss what has caused this indigestion and how leadership can better address these challenges. A key aspect of this conversation revolved around discussing Ed's book, See Yourself in Cyber: Security Careers Beyond Hacking, and how he expands the conversation surrounding traditional roles associated with cybersecurity. Want more CISO Perspectives?: Check out a companion blog post by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals. Tue, 13 Jan 2026 07:00:00 -0000 Is the cyber talent ecosystem broken? full 16 107 N2K Networks Please enjoy this encore of CISO Perspectives Show Notes: The cyber talent ecosystem faces severe indigestion, which has stifled growth and closed doors to new talent. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones sits down with Ed Adams, the Head of Cybersecurity for North America at the Bureau Veritas Group, to discuss what has caused this indigestion and how leadership can better address these challenges. A key aspect of this conversation revolved around discussing Ed's book, See Yourself in Cyber: Security Careers Beyond Hacking, and how he expands the conversation surrounding traditional roles associated with cybersecurity. Want more CISO Perspectives?: Check out a companion blog post by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals. Please enjoy this encore of CISO Perspectives

Show Notes:

The cyber talent ecosystem faces severe indigestion, which has stifled growth and closed doors to new talent. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host Kim Jones sits down with Ed Adams, the Head of Cybersecurity for North America at the Bureau Veritas Group, to discuss what has caused this indigestion and how leadership can better address these challenges. A key aspect of this conversation revolved around discussing Ed's book, See Yourself in Cyber: Security Careers Beyond Hacking, and how he expands the conversation surrounding traditional roles associated with cybersecurity.


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Check out a companion blog post by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals.

]]> 2436 no Season finale: Leading security in a brave new world. https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/123/notes In the season finale of CSO Perspectives, Ethan Cook and Kim Jones reflect on a season of conversations exploring what it means to lead security in a rapidly evolving “brave new world.” From the realities behind AI hype and the slow-burn impact of quantum computing to the business forces shaping cybersecurity innovation, they revisit key lessons and lingering challenges facing today’s CISOs. The episode closes with an optimistic—but candid—look at why fundamentals, critical thinking, and leadership still matter as the industry moves forward. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠s by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements episodes throughout the season. Tue, 30 Dec 2025 07:00:00 -0000 Season finale: Leading security in a brave new world. full 17 123 N2K Networks In the season finale of CSO Perspectives, Ethan Cook and Kim Jones reflect on a season of conversations exploring what it means to lead security in a rapidly evolving “brave new world.” From the realities behind AI hype and the slow-burn impact of quantum computing to the business forces shaping cybersecurity innovation, they revisit key lessons and lingering challenges facing today’s CISOs. The episode closes with an optimistic—but candid—look at why fundamentals, critical thinking, and leadership still matter as the industry moves forward. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠s by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements episodes throughout the season. In the season finale of CSO Perspectives, Ethan Cook and Kim Jones reflect on a season of conversations exploring what it means to lead security in a rapidly evolving “brave new world.” From the realities behind AI hype and the slow-burn impact of quantum computing to the business forces shaping cybersecurity innovation, they revisit key lessons and lingering challenges facing today’s CISOs. The episode closes with an optimistic—but candid—look at why fundamentals, critical thinking, and leadership still matter as the industry moves forward.

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]]> 2639 no Tech Investment Strategies and Overview https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/122/notes In this CISOP episode of CSO Perspectives, Host Kim Jones sits down with John Funge, venture capitalist at DataTribe, to explore how investors view the cybersecurity landscape. Kim reflects on the tension between innovation, profit motives, and the real needs of security practitioners—raising questions about whether the industry prioritizes mitigation over true solutions. John offers a candid look inside the VC decision-making process, breaking down how teams, market fit, and long-term defensibility shape investment choices. Together, they examine how founders, investors, and CISOs can better align to drive meaningful, effective security innovation. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. Tue, 23 Dec 2025 07:00:00 -0000 Tech Investment Strategies and Overview full 17 122 N2K Networks In this CISOP episode of CSO Perspectives, Host Kim Jones sits down with John Funge, venture capitalist at DataTribe, to explore how investors view the cybersecurity landscape. Kim reflects on the tension between innovation, profit motives, and the real needs of security practitioners—raising questions about whether the industry prioritizes mitigation over true solutions. John offers a candid look inside the VC decision-making process, breaking down how teams, market fit, and long-term defensibility shape investment choices. Together, they examine how founders, investors, and CISOs can better align to drive meaningful, effective security innovation. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. In this CISOP episode of CSO Perspectives, Host Kim Jones sits down with John Funge, venture capitalist at DataTribe, to explore how investors view the cybersecurity landscape. Kim reflects on the tension between innovation, profit motives, and the real needs of security practitioners—raising questions about whether the industry prioritizes mitigation over true solutions. John offers a candid look inside the VC decision-making process, breaking down how teams, market fit, and long-term defensibility shape investment choices. Together, they examine how founders, investors, and CISOs can better align to drive meaningful, effective security innovation.

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Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode.

]]> 2919 no Quantum https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/121/notes In this episode, host Kim Jones tacks a topic that is rapidly moving from theoretical to operational reality: quantum computing. While classical computing will remain the backbone of our systems for years to come, quantum technologies are advancing fast enough that CISOs must begin preparing today. Kim explores what quantum computing really means, why it matters for cybersecurity, and how leaders should begin planning for its inevitable impact. To help demystify the subject, Kim is joined by longtime colleague and cybersecurity practitioner Michael Sottile—now the CSO of a quantum computing firm—who brings decades of hands-on experience across industries and a front-row seat to quantum's evolution. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. Tue, 16 Dec 2025 07:00:00 -0000 Quantum full 17 121 N2K Networks In this episode, host Kim Jones tacks a topic that is rapidly moving from theoretical to operational reality: quantum computing. While classical computing will remain the backbone of our systems for years to come, quantum technologies are advancing fast enough that CISOs must begin preparing today. Kim explores what quantum computing really means, why it matters for cybersecurity, and how leaders should begin planning for its inevitable impact. To help demystify the subject, Kim is joined by longtime colleague and cybersecurity practitioner Michael Sottile—now the CSO of a quantum computing firm—who brings decades of hands-on experience across industries and a front-row seat to quantum's evolution. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. In this episode, host Kim Jones tacks a topic that is rapidly moving from theoretical to operational reality: quantum computing. While classical computing will remain the backbone of our systems for years to come, quantum technologies are advancing fast enough that CISOs must begin preparing today. Kim explores what quantum computing really means, why it matters for cybersecurity, and how leaders should begin planning for its inevitable impact. To help demystify the subject, Kim is joined by longtime colleague and cybersecurity practitioner Michael Sottile—now the CSO of a quantum computing firm—who brings decades of hands-on experience across industries and a front-row seat to quantum's evolution.

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Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode.

]]> 2356 no AI and cyber practicum https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/120/notes In this episode, host Kim Jones examines the rapid rise of enterprise AI and the tension between innovation and protection, sharing an RSA anecdote that highlights both excitement and concern. He outlines the benefits organizations hope to gain from AI while calling out often-overlooked risks like data quality, governance, and accountability. Kim is joined by technologist Tony Gauda to discuss why AI represents a fundamental shift in how systems and decisions are designed. Together, they explore AI-driven operations, cultural barriers to experimentation, and how CISOs can adopt AI responsibly without compromising security. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. Tue, 09 Dec 2025 07:00:00 -0000 AI and cyber practicum full 17 120 N2K Networks In this episode, host Kim Jones examines the rapid rise of enterprise AI and the tension between innovation and protection, sharing an RSA anecdote that highlights both excitement and concern. He outlines the benefits organizations hope to gain from AI while calling out often-overlooked risks like data quality, governance, and accountability. Kim is joined by technologist Tony Gauda to discuss why AI represents a fundamental shift in how systems and decisions are designed. Together, they explore AI-driven operations, cultural barriers to experimentation, and how CISOs can adopt AI responsibly without compromising security. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. In this episode, host Kim Jones examines the rapid rise of enterprise AI and the tension between innovation and protection, sharing an RSA anecdote that highlights both excitement and concern. He outlines the benefits organizations hope to gain from AI while calling out often-overlooked risks like data quality, governance, and accountability. Kim is joined by technologist Tony Gauda to discuss why AI represents a fundamental shift in how systems and decisions are designed. Together, they explore AI-driven operations, cultural barriers to experimentation, and how CISOs can adopt AI responsibly without compromising security.

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Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode.

]]> 2467 no AI's impact on business https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/119/notes In this episode, Kim Jones sits down with Eric Nagel, a former CISO with a rare blend of engineering, legal, and patent expertise, to unpack what responsible AI really looks like inside a modern enterprise. Eric breaks down the difference between traditional machine learning and generative AI, why nondeterministic outputs can be both powerful and risky, and how issues like bias, hallucinations, and data leakage demand new safeguards—including AI firewalls. He also discusses what smaller organizations can do to manage AI risk, how tools like code-generation models change expectations for developers, and the evolving regulatory landscape shaping how companies must deploy AI responsibly. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. Tue, 02 Dec 2025 07:00:00 -0000 AI's impact on business full 17 119 N2K Networks In this episode, Kim Jones sits down with Eric Nagel, a former CISO with a rare blend of engineering, legal, and patent expertise, to unpack what responsible AI really looks like inside a modern enterprise. Eric breaks down the difference between traditional machine learning and generative AI, why nondeterministic outputs can be both powerful and risky, and how issues like bias, hallucinations, and data leakage demand new safeguards—including AI firewalls. He also discusses what smaller organizations can do to manage AI risk, how tools like code-generation models change expectations for developers, and the evolving regulatory landscape shaping how companies must deploy AI responsibly. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. In this episode, Kim Jones sits down with Eric Nagel, a former CISO with a rare blend of engineering, legal, and patent expertise, to unpack what responsible AI really looks like inside a modern enterprise. Eric breaks down the difference between traditional machine learning and generative AI, why nondeterministic outputs can be both powerful and risky, and how issues like bias, hallucinations, and data leakage demand new safeguards—including AI firewalls.

He also discusses what smaller organizations can do to manage AI risk, how tools like code-generation models change expectations for developers, and the evolving regulatory landscape shaping how companies must deploy AI responsibly.

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Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode.

]]> 2455 no A midseason takeaway. https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/118/notes In this mid-season episode, Kim takes a step back to reflect on the conversations he has had so far. During the episode, Kim sits down with N2K's own Ethan Cook to connect the dots across episodes, diving into how new technologies are impacting longstanding challenges, both from a security standpoint and from an attacker's view. Whether you're catching up or tuning in weekly, this episode offers a thoughtful recap and fresh perspective on where we've been—and what's still to come. Tue, 25 Nov 2025 07:00:00 -0000 A midseason takeaway. full 17 118 N2K Networks In this mid-season episode, Kim takes a step back to reflect on the conversations he has had so far. During the episode, Kim sits down with N2K's own Ethan Cook to connect the dots across episodes, diving into how new technologies are impacting longstanding challenges, both from a security standpoint and from an attacker's view. Whether you're catching up or tuning in weekly, this episode offers a thoughtful recap and fresh perspective on where we've been—and what's still to come. In this mid-season episode, Kim takes a step back to reflect on the conversations he has had so far. During the episode, Kim sits down with N2K's own Ethan Cook to connect the dots across episodes, diving into how new technologies are impacting longstanding challenges, both from a security standpoint and from an attacker's view. Whether you're catching up or tuning in weekly, this episode offers a thoughtful recap and fresh perspective on where we've been—and what's still to come.

]]> 2797 no Fraud and Identity https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/117/notes Managing identity has been an evolving challenge as networks have only continued to grow and become more sophisticated. In this current landscape, these challenges have only become further exacerbated with new emerging technologies. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Richard Bird from Singular AI to discuss this evolving paradigm. Throughout this conversation, Kim and Richard tackle how managing identity has evolved and how security leaders can get ahead of AI to better secure their systems and networks. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. Tue, 18 Nov 2025 07:00:00 -0000 Fraud and Identity full 17 117 N2K Networks Managing identity has been an evolving challenge as networks have only continued to grow and become more sophisticated. In this current landscape, these challenges have only become further exacerbated with new emerging technologies. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Richard Bird from Singular AI to discuss this evolving paradigm. Throughout this conversation, Kim and Richard tackle how managing identity has evolved and how security leaders can get ahead of AI to better secure their systems and networks. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. Managing identity has been an evolving challenge as networks have only continued to grow and become more sophisticated. In this current landscape, these challenges have only become further exacerbated with new emerging technologies.

In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Richard Bird from Singular AI to discuss this evolving paradigm. Throughout this conversation, Kim and Richard tackle how managing identity has evolved and how security leaders can get ahead of AI to better secure their systems and networks.

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]]> 2414 no The changing face of fraud. https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/116/notes Fraud has always been a consistent challenge. As the world has continued to become increasingly interconnected and as new technologies have become widely available, threat actors have continued to evolve their tactics. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Mel Lanning from the Better Business Bureau to discuss fraud and how it has been evolving in recent years. From exploiting cryptocurrencies to utilizing emerging technologies, Kim and Mel look into how threat actors are changing and refining tactics in the current threat landscape. This episode of N2K Pro's CISO Perspectives podcast is brought to you by our sponsor, Meter. Meter provides a full-stack, enterprise-grade networking solution—wired, wireless, and cellular—designed, deployed, and managed end-to-end. From hardware to software, ISP to security, Meter delivers seamless, secure, and scalable connectivity for modern business environments. Learn more about Meter. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. Tue, 11 Nov 2025 07:00:00 -0000 The changing face of fraud. full 17 116 N2K Networks Fraud has always been a consistent challenge. As the world has continued to become increasingly interconnected and as new technologies have become widely available, threat actors have continued to evolve their tactics. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Mel Lanning from the Better Business Bureau to discuss fraud and how it has been evolving in recent years. From exploiting cryptocurrencies to utilizing emerging technologies, Kim and Mel look into how threat actors are changing and refining tactics in the current threat landscape. This episode of N2K Pro's CISO Perspectives podcast is brought to you by our sponsor, Meter. Meter provides a full-stack, enterprise-grade networking solution—wired, wireless, and cellular—designed, deployed, and managed end-to-end. From hardware to software, ISP to security, Meter delivers seamless, secure, and scalable connectivity for modern business environments. Learn more about Meter. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. Fraud has always been a consistent challenge. As the world has continued to become increasingly interconnected and as new technologies have become widely available, threat actors have continued to evolve their tactics.

In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Mel Lanning from the Better Business Bureau to discuss fraud and how it has been evolving in recent years. From exploiting cryptocurrencies to utilizing emerging technologies, Kim and Mel look into how threat actors are changing and refining tactics in the current threat landscape.

This episode of N2K Pro's CISO Perspectives podcast is brought to you by our sponsor, Meter. Meter provides a full-stack, enterprise-grade networking solution—wired, wireless, and cellular—designed, deployed, and managed end-to-end. From hardware to software, ISP to security, Meter delivers seamless, secure, and scalable connectivity for modern business environments. Learn more about Meter.

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]]> 2211 no Privacy needs where you least expect it https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/115/notes When discussing privacy risks, many often look to implementing strong encryption, secure data storage practices, and data sanitization processes to help ensure sensitive information remains protected. Though these practices are good and should be prioritized, many often miss other key areas that need just as much focus. As the internet of things has only continued to grow larger and larger, so has the risk these devices inherently create as they collect and store more information than many would instinctively assume. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Merry Marwig, the Vice President of Global Communications & Advocacy at Privacy4Cars, to explore how privacy risks are in places many do not think to look. Together, Merry and Kim discuss why security leaders need to rethink how they approach privacy and consider how the devices we use every day could inadvertently expose our sensitive information. This episode of N2K Pro's CISO Perspectives podcast is brought to you by our sponsor, Meter. Meter provides a full-stack, enterprise-grade networking solution—wired, wireless, and cellular—designed, deployed, and managed end-to-end. From hardware to software, ISP to security, Meter delivers seamless, secure, and scalable connectivity for modern business environments. Learn more about Meter. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. Tue, 04 Nov 2025 07:00:00 -0000 Privacy needs where you least expect it full 17 115 N2K Networks When discussing privacy risks, many often look to implementing strong encryption, secure data storage practices, and data sanitization processes to help ensure sensitive information remains protected. Though these practices are good and should be prioritized, many often miss other key areas that need just as much focus. As the internet of things has only continued to grow larger and larger, so has the risk these devices inherently create as they collect and store more information than many would instinctively assume. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Merry Marwig, the Vice President of Global Communications & Advocacy at Privacy4Cars, to explore how privacy risks are in places many do not think to look. Together, Merry and Kim discuss why security leaders need to rethink how they approach privacy and consider how the devices we use every day could inadvertently expose our sensitive information. This episode of N2K Pro's CISO Perspectives podcast is brought to you by our sponsor, Meter. Meter provides a full-stack, enterprise-grade networking solution—wired, wireless, and cellular—designed, deployed, and managed end-to-end. From hardware to software, ISP to security, Meter delivers seamless, secure, and scalable connectivity for modern business environments. Learn more about Meter. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. When discussing privacy risks, many often look to implementing strong encryption, secure data storage practices, and data sanitization processes to help ensure sensitive information remains protected. Though these practices are good and should be prioritized, many often miss other key areas that need just as much focus. As the internet of things has only continued to grow larger and larger, so has the risk these devices inherently create as they collect and store more information than many would instinctively assume.

In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Merry Marwig, the Vice President of Global Communications & Advocacy at Privacy4Cars, to explore how privacy risks are in places many do not think to look. Together, Merry and Kim discuss why security leaders need to rethink how they approach privacy and consider how the devices we use every day could inadvertently expose our sensitive information.

This episode of N2K Pro's CISO Perspectives podcast is brought to you by our sponsor, Meter. Meter provides a full-stack, enterprise-grade networking solution—wired, wireless, and cellular—designed, deployed, and managed end-to-end. From hardware to software, ISP to security, Meter delivers seamless, secure, and scalable connectivity for modern business environments. Learn more about Meter.

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Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode.

]]> 2168 The impact of data privacy on cyber. https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/114/notes Privacy is one of the most universally valued rights. Yet, despite its importance, data breaches exposing millions of people's sensitive information have become routine. Many have come to assume that their personal data has already been, or inevitably will be, compromised. Despite this reality, prioritizing privacy is more important than ever. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Kristy Westphal, the Global Security Director of Spirent Communications, to explore data privacy's impacts on cybersecurity efforts. Together, Kristy and Kim discuss why privacy cannot be an afterthought but rather must be something actively addressed through proactive security efforts, shifting security culture mindsets, and staying ahead of rapidly changing technologies. This episode of N2K Pro's CISO Perspectives podcast is brought to you by our sponsor, Meter. Meter provides a full-stack, enterprise-grade networking solution—wired, wireless, and cellular—designed, deployed, and managed end-to-end. From hardware to software, ISP to security, Meter delivers seamless, secure, and scalable connectivity for modern business environments. Learn more about Meter. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. Tue, 28 Oct 2025 06:00:00 -0000 The impact of data privacy on cyber. full 17 114 N2K Networks Privacy is one of the most universally valued rights. Yet, despite its importance, data breaches exposing millions of people's sensitive information have become routine. Many have come to assume that their personal data has already been, or inevitably will be, compromised. Despite this reality, prioritizing privacy is more important than ever. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Kristy Westphal, the Global Security Director of Spirent Communications, to explore data privacy's impacts on cybersecurity efforts. Together, Kristy and Kim discuss why privacy cannot be an afterthought but rather must be something actively addressed through proactive security efforts, shifting security culture mindsets, and staying ahead of rapidly changing technologies. This episode of N2K Pro's CISO Perspectives podcast is brought to you by our sponsor, Meter. Meter provides a full-stack, enterprise-grade networking solution—wired, wireless, and cellular—designed, deployed, and managed end-to-end. From hardware to software, ISP to security, Meter delivers seamless, secure, and scalable connectivity for modern business environments. Learn more about Meter. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. Privacy is one of the most universally valued rights. Yet, despite its importance, data breaches exposing millions of people's sensitive information have become routine. Many have come to assume that their personal data has already been, or inevitably will be, compromised. Despite this reality, prioritizing privacy is more important than ever.

In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Kristy Westphal, the Global Security Director of Spirent Communications, to explore data privacy's impacts on cybersecurity efforts. Together, Kristy and Kim discuss why privacy cannot be an afterthought but rather must be something actively addressed through proactive security efforts, shifting security culture mindsets, and staying ahead of rapidly changing technologies.

This episode of N2K Pro's CISO Perspectives podcast is brought to you by our sponsor, Meter. Meter provides a full-stack, enterprise-grade networking solution—wired, wireless, and cellular—designed, deployed, and managed end-to-end. From hardware to software, ISP to security, Meter delivers seamless, secure, and scalable connectivity for modern business environments. Learn more about Meter.

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]]> 2524 no Regulation takeaways with Ethan Cook. https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/113/notes On this episode, host Kim Jones is joined by Ethan Cook, N2K’s lead analyst and editor, for a deeper, more reflective conversation on cybersecurity regulation, privacy, and the future of policy. This episode steps back from the news cycle to connect the dots and explore where the regulatory landscape is heading — and why it matters. Ethan, who will join the show regularly this season to provide big-picture analysis after major policy conversations, shares his perspective on the evolving balance between government oversight, innovation, and individual responsibility. This episode of N2K Pro's CISO Perspectives podcast is brought to you by our sponsor, Meter. Meter provides a full-stack, enterprise-grade networking solution—wired, wireless, and cellular—designed, deployed, and managed end-to-end. From hardware to software, ISP to security, Meter delivers seamless, secure, and scalable connectivity for modern business environments. Learn more about Meter. Tue, 21 Oct 2025 06:00:00 -0000 Regulation takeaways with Ethan Cook. full 17 113 N2K Networks On this episode, host Kim Jones is joined by Ethan Cook, N2K’s lead analyst and editor, for a deeper, more reflective conversation on cybersecurity regulation, privacy, and the future of policy. This episode steps back from the news cycle to connect the dots and explore where the regulatory landscape is heading — and why it matters. Ethan, who will join the show regularly this season to provide big-picture analysis after major policy conversations, shares his perspective on the evolving balance between government oversight, innovation, and individual responsibility. This episode of N2K Pro's CISO Perspectives podcast is brought to you by our sponsor, Meter. Meter provides a full-stack, enterprise-grade networking solution—wired, wireless, and cellular—designed, deployed, and managed end-to-end. From hardware to software, ISP to security, Meter delivers seamless, secure, and scalable connectivity for modern business environments. Learn more about Meter. On this episode, host Kim Jones is joined by Ethan Cook, N2K’s lead analyst and editor, for a deeper, more reflective conversation on cybersecurity regulation, privacy, and the future of policy. This episode steps back from the news cycle to connect the dots and explore where the regulatory landscape is heading — and why it matters.

Ethan, who will join the show regularly this season to provide big-picture analysis after major policy conversations, shares his perspective on the evolving balance between government oversight, innovation, and individual responsibility.

This episode of N2K Pro's CISO Perspectives podcast is brought to you by our sponsor, Meter. Meter provides a full-stack, enterprise-grade networking solution—wired, wireless, and cellular—designed, deployed, and managed end-to-end. From hardware to software, ISP to security, Meter delivers seamless, secure, and scalable connectivity for modern business environments. Learn more about Meter.

]]> 2483 no The existing state of regulation. https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/112/notes Regulation is a double-edged sword. While it helps create structure, establish accountability, and set standards, it also creates unnecessary hurdles, slower response times, and overly rigid systems. With every administration, policy goals and subsequently regulatory stances change, which can have major impacts on business operations. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Ben Yelin, from the University of Maryland Center for Cyber Health and Hazard Strategies, to discuss the current state of regulation. Throughout the conversation, Ben and Kim discuss how the current administration views regulations and the future role of the federal government. Regulation is a double-edged sword. While it helps create structure, establish accountability, and set standards, it also creates unnecessary hurdles, slower response times, and overly rigid systems. With every administration, policy goals and subsequently regulatory stances change, which can have major impacts on business operations. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Ben Yelin, from the University of Maryland Center for Cyber Health and Hazard Strategies, to discuss the current state of regulation. Throughout the conversation, Ben and Kim discuss how the current administration views regulations and the future role of the federal government.  This episode of N2K Pro's CISO Perspectives podcast is brought to you by our sponsor, Meter. Meter provides a full-stack, enterprise-grade networking solution—wired, wireless, and cellular—designed, deployed, and managed end-to-end. From hardware to software, ISP to security, Meter delivers seamless, secure, and scalable connectivity for modern business environments. Learn more about Meter. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. Tue, 23 Sep 2025 06:00:00 -0000 The existing state of regulation. full 17 112 N2K Networks Regulation is a double-edged sword. While it helps create structure, establish accountability, and set standards, it also creates unnecessary hurdles, slower response times, and overly rigid systems. With every administration, policy goals and subsequently regulatory stances change, which can have major impacts on business operations. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Ben Yelin, from the University of Maryland Center for Cyber Health and Hazard Strategies, to discuss the current state of regulation. Throughout the conversation, Ben and Kim discuss how the current administration views regulations and the future role of the federal government. Regulation is a double-edged sword. While it helps create structure, establish accountability, and set standards, it also creates unnecessary hurdles, slower response times, and overly rigid systems. With every administration, policy goals and subsequently regulatory stances change, which can have major impacts on business operations. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Ben Yelin, from the University of Maryland Center for Cyber Health and Hazard Strategies, to discuss the current state of regulation. Throughout the conversation, Ben and Kim discuss how the current administration views regulations and the future role of the federal government.  This episode of N2K Pro's CISO Perspectives podcast is brought to you by our sponsor, Meter. Meter provides a full-stack, enterprise-grade networking solution—wired, wireless, and cellular—designed, deployed, and managed end-to-end. From hardware to software, ISP to security, Meter delivers seamless, secure, and scalable connectivity for modern business environments. Learn more about Meter. Want more CISO Perspectives? Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. Regulation is a double-edged sword. While it helps create structure, establish accountability, and set standards, it also creates unnecessary hurdles, slower response times, and overly rigid systems. With every administration, policy goals and subsequently regulatory stances change, which can have major impacts on business operations.

In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Ben Yelin, from the University of Maryland Center for Cyber Health and Hazard Strategies, to discuss the current state of regulation. Throughout the conversation, Ben and Kim discuss how the current administration views regulations and the future role of the federal government.

Regulation is a double-edged sword. While it helps create structure, establish accountability, and set standards, it also creates unnecessary hurdles, slower response times, and overly rigid systems. With every administration, policy goals and subsequently regulatory stances change, which can have major impacts on business operations.

In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Ben Yelin, from the University of Maryland Center for Cyber Health and Hazard Strategies, to discuss the current state of regulation. Throughout the conversation, Ben and Kim discuss how the current administration views regulations and the future role of the federal government. 

This episode of N2K Pro's CISO Perspectives podcast is brought to you by our sponsor, Meter. Meter provides a full-stack, enterprise-grade networking solution—wired, wireless, and cellular—designed, deployed, and managed end-to-end. From hardware to software, ISP to security, Meter delivers seamless, secure, and scalable connectivity for modern business environments. Learn more about Meter.

Want more CISO Perspectives?

Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode.

]]> 2400 no The return of CISO Perspectives. https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/cso-perspectives-public/112/notes This season on CISO Perspectives—your host, Kim Jones is digging into the issues shaping the future of cybersecurity leadership. From the regulations every CISO needs to understand, to the unexpected places privacy risks are emerging, to the new ways fraud and identity are colliding—these conversations will sharpen your strategies and strengthen your defenses. Industry leaders join the discussion to share their insights, challenges, and hard-earned lessons. Together, we’ll connect the dots across regulation, privacy, fraud, leadership, and talent—helping you build a stronger, more resilient cybersecurity ecosystem. This is CISO Perspectives. Real conversations. Real strategies. Real impact. Tue, 16 Sep 2025 06:00:00 -0000 The return of CISO Perspectives. trailer 17 112 N2K Networks This season on CISO Perspectives—your host, Kim Jones is digging into the issues shaping the future of cybersecurity leadership. From the regulations every CISO needs to understand, to the unexpected places privacy risks are emerging, to the new ways fraud and identity are colliding—these conversations will sharpen your strategies and strengthen your defenses. Industry leaders join the discussion to share their insights, challenges, and hard-earned lessons. Together, we’ll connect the dots across regulation, privacy, fraud, leadership, and talent—helping you build a stronger, more resilient cybersecurity ecosystem. This is CISO Perspectives. Real conversations. Real strategies. Real impact. This season on CISO Perspectives—your host, Kim Jones is digging into the issues shaping the future of cybersecurity leadership. From the regulations every CISO needs to understand, to the unexpected places privacy risks are emerging, to the new ways fraud and identity are colliding—these conversations will sharpen your strategies and strengthen your defenses.

Industry leaders join the discussion to share their insights, challenges, and hard-earned lessons. Together, we’ll connect the dots across regulation, privacy, fraud, leadership, and talent—helping you build a stronger, more resilient cybersecurity ecosystem.

This is CISO Perspectives. Real conversations. Real strategies. Real impact.

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