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    <title>About That Life</title>
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    <description>To fully understand what we’re living through right now, we need to dig deeper into our history.  Hosted by award-winning journalist Garrison Hayes, About That Life uncovers unsung and overlooked figures from Black history who challenged the status quo — from Gloria Richardson to George Washington Williams. Each episode traces the defiant, strategic and deeply human choices they made and sits down with people whose life and work connects to their legacy. The fight for justice has always had a playbook. And these stories provide the blueprint for a better future.</description>
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    <itunes:author>Garrison Hayes</itunes:author>
    <itunes:summary>To fully understand what we’re living through right now, we need to dig deeper into our history.  Hosted by award-winning journalist Garrison Hayes, About That Life uncovers unsung and overlooked figures from Black history who challenged the status quo — from Gloria Richardson to George Washington Williams. Each episode traces the defiant, strategic and deeply human choices they made and sits down with people whose life and work connects to their legacy. The fight for justice has always had a playbook. And these stories provide the blueprint for a better future.</itunes:summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p>To fully understand what we’re living through right now, we need to dig deeper into our history. <em> </em>Hosted by award-winning journalist Garrison Hayes, <em>About That Life</em> uncovers unsung and overlooked figures from Black history who challenged the status quo — from Gloria Richardson to George Washington Williams. Each episode traces the defiant, strategic and deeply human choices they made and sits down with people whose life and work connects to their legacy. The fight for justice has always had a playbook. And these stories provide the blueprint for a better future.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:name>Garrison Hayes</itunes:name>
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      <title>About that Spooky Life</title>
      <description>Black history is full of stories that’ll make the hair on the back of your neck stand up. Not because of ghosts but because they actually happened! We’re joined by podcast hosts Deante Kyle (Grits &amp; Eggs), Big Ice Cup Kat (Grits &amp; Eggs), comedian Jamila Bell and creator Lynae Vanee who each share a shocking true tale.&amp;nbsp;

Who’s a defiant person you think we should feature on the show? Or do you have a story about someone who inspired you to be “about that life"? Leave us a voicemail at 814-326-2866.&amp;nbsp;

Support the show by subscribing on Substack

Show Notes

Guests:&amp;nbsp;

Jamila Bell

Big Ice Cup Kat

Lynae Vanee

Deante Kyle



Want to learn more?Read:

Witch Queens, Voodoo Spirits, and Hoodoo Saints

As If She Were Free

The Making of HaitiFollow Garrison

YouTube

TikTok

Instagram



Senior Producer: Kristen Bennett&amp;nbsp;

Producer: Matt Gant

Story Editor: Casey Miner&amp;nbsp;

Fact Checker: Sarah McClure&amp;nbsp;

Researcher &amp; Archival Producer: Caitlin Riggsbee

Original Music &amp; Sound Design: Kyle Murdock&amp;nbsp;

Executive Producer: N’Jeri Eaton

Head of Brand &amp; Audience: Anhelo Reyes

Head of Video: Tonja Thigpen



Huge thanks to our partners at American Experiments 

Special thanks to REVOLT Studios



To Kevin, Allie, Dom, Simone, and last but not least — Mr. Benjamin.&amp;nbsp;



Additional Materials

Pittsburgh Courier

Nicholas Kamm/AFP/Getty Images

Lionsgate

Felicia Blue

Library of Congress

Formulanone

Shawn Harqauil

Historic New Orleans Collection

Loxahatchee River Historical SocietyPatricia Brintle

Gerard Valchin/Haitian Art Society

Jacques-Richard Chéry

UNESCO

Warner Bros. Pictures

BRENDAN SMIALOWSKI/AFP via Getty Images

Evan Vucci
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2026 18:09:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>Black history is full of stories that’ll make the hair on the back of your neck stand up. Not because of ghosts but because they actually happened! We’re joined by podcast hosts Deante Kyle (Grits &amp; Eggs), Big Ice Cup Kat (Grits &amp; Eggs), comedian Jamila Bell and creator Lynae Vanee who each share a shocking true tale.&amp;nbsp;

Who’s a defiant person you think we should feature on the show? Or do you have a story about someone who inspired you to be “about that life"? Leave us a voicemail at 814-326-2866.&amp;nbsp;

Support the show by subscribing on Substack

Show Notes

Guests:&amp;nbsp;

Jamila Bell

Big Ice Cup Kat

Lynae Vanee

Deante Kyle



Want to learn more?Read:

Witch Queens, Voodoo Spirits, and Hoodoo Saints

As If She Were Free

The Making of HaitiFollow Garrison

YouTube

TikTok

Instagram



Senior Producer: Kristen Bennett&amp;nbsp;

Producer: Matt Gant

Story Editor: Casey Miner&amp;nbsp;

Fact Checker: Sarah McClure&amp;nbsp;

Researcher &amp; Archival Producer: Caitlin Riggsbee

Original Music &amp; Sound Design: Kyle Murdock&amp;nbsp;

Executive Producer: N’Jeri Eaton

Head of Brand &amp; Audience: Anhelo Reyes

Head of Video: Tonja Thigpen



Huge thanks to our partners at American Experiments 

Special thanks to REVOLT Studios



To Kevin, Allie, Dom, Simone, and last but not least — Mr. Benjamin.&amp;nbsp;



Additional Materials

Pittsburgh Courier

Nicholas Kamm/AFP/Getty Images

Lionsgate

Felicia Blue

Library of Congress

Formulanone

Shawn Harqauil

Historic New Orleans Collection

Loxahatchee River Historical SocietyPatricia Brintle

Gerard Valchin/Haitian Art Society

Jacques-Richard Chéry

UNESCO

Warner Bros. Pictures

BRENDAN SMIALOWSKI/AFP via Getty Images

Evan Vucci
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Black history is full of stories that’ll make the hair on the back of your neck stand up. Not because of ghosts but because they actually happened! We’re joined by podcast hosts Deante Kyle (Grits &amp; Eggs), Big Ice Cup Kat (Grits &amp; Eggs), comedian Jamila Bell and creator Lynae Vanee who each share a shocking true tale.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Who’s a defiant person you think we should feature on the show? Or do you have a story about someone who inspired you to be “about that life"? Leave us a voicemail at 814-326-2866.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Support the show by subscribing on <a href="https://garrisonhayes.substack.com/"><u>Substack</u></a></p>
<p><u>Show Notes</u></p>
<p>Guests:&nbsp;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/_iamjamila/?hl=en"><u>Jamila Bell</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/big_icecup_kat/"><u>Big Ice Cup Kat</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/lynaevanee/?hl=en"><u>Lynae Vanee</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/deante.kyle/?hl=en"><u>Deante Kyle</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Want to learn more?<br>Read:</p>
<p><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/witch-queens-voodoo-spirits-and-hoodoo-saints-a-guide-to-magical-new-orleans-denise-alvarado/5f34558457ec981d"><u>Witch Queens, Voodoo Spirits, and Hoodoo Saints</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/as-if-she-were-free-erica-l-ball/192e7bb4e0efeaf0?ean=9781108737036"><u>As If She Were Free</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-making-of-haiti-the-saint-domingue-revolution-from-below-carolyn-e-fick/8a34c3405a38e99f?ean=9780870496677"><u>The Making of Haiti</u><br></a>Follow Garrison</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@GarrisonHayes/videos"><u>YouTube</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@garrisonhayes"><u>TikTok</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/garrisonh/"><u>Instagram</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Senior Producer: Kristen Bennett&nbsp;</p>
<p>Producer: Matt Gant</p>
<p>Story Editor: Casey Miner&nbsp;</p>
<p>Fact Checker: Sarah McClure&nbsp;</p>
<p>Researcher &amp; Archival Producer: Caitlin Riggsbee</p>
<p>Original Music &amp; Sound Design: Kyle Murdock&nbsp;</p>
<p>Executive Producer: N’Jeri Eaton</p>
<p>Head of Brand &amp; Audience: Anhelo Reyes</p>
<p>Head of Video: Tonja Thigpen</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Huge thanks to our partners at American Experiments </p>
<p>Special thanks to REVOLT Studios</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>To Kevin, Allie, Dom, Simone, and last but not least — Mr. Benjamin.&nbsp;</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Additional Materials</strong></p>
<p>Pittsburgh Courier</p>
<p>Nicholas Kamm/AFP/Getty Images</p>
<p>Lionsgate</p>
<p>Felicia Blue</p>
<p>Library of Congress</p>
<p>Formulanone</p>
<p>Shawn Harqauil</p>
<p>Historic New Orleans Collection</p>
<p>Loxahatchee River Historical SocietyPatricia Brintle</p>
<p>Gerard Valchin/Haitian Art Society</p>
<p>Jacques-Richard Chéry</p>
<p>UNESCO</p>
<p>Warner Bros. Pictures</p>
<p>BRENDAN SMIALOWSKI/AFP via Getty Images</p>
<p>Evan Vucci</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Assata Shakur: In Her Own Words</title>
      <description>They called her Joanne Chesimard, enemy of the state and one of the FBI’s Most Wanted. But that wasn't the real story. Assata Shakur was a Black freedom fighter. In this episode, journalist and author Santi Elijah Holley helps us dive into Assata’s story. Weaving in Assata’s own poetry read by Lynae Vanee, we tell the story of how Assata became a symbol for something she never was, the lengths the government took to paint her a terrorist, and how she boldly reclaimed her own story and taught us what it means to be free. 

Who’s a defiant person you think we should feature on the show? Or do you have a story about someone who inspired you to be “about that life"? Leave us a voicemail at 814-326-2866.&amp;nbsp;

Support the show by subscribing on Substack

Show Notes

Guest: Santi Elijah Holley website&amp;nbsp;

Lynae Vanee



Want to learn more?

Read:

An Amerikan Family: The Shakurs and the Nation They Created by Santi Elijah Holley

Assata: An Autobiography by Assata Shakur 

Follow Garrison

YouTube

TikTok

Instagram

Senior Producer: Kristen Bennett&amp;nbsp;

Producer: Matt Gant

Story Editor: Julie Caine&amp;nbsp;

Fact Checker: Sarah McClure&amp;nbsp;

Production Supervisor: Hugo Salguero

Original music &amp; sound design: Kyle Murdock&amp;nbsp;

Executive Producer: N’Jeri Eaton

Head of Brand &amp; Audience: Anhelo Reyes

Head of Video: Tonja Thigpen



Huge thanks to our partners at American Experiments Special thanks to Lynae Vanee&amp;nbsp;



To Kevin, Allie, Dom, Simone, and last but not least — Mr. Benjamin.&amp;nbsp;


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2026 19:04:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Garrison Hayes</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>They called her Joanne Chesimard, enemy of the state and one of the FBI’s Most Wanted. But that wasn't the real story. Assata Shakur was a Black freedom fighter. In this episode, journalist and author Santi Elijah Holley helps us dive into Assata’s story. Weaving in Assata’s own poetry read by Lynae Vanee, we tell the story of how Assata became a symbol for something she never was, the lengths the government took to paint her a terrorist, and how she boldly reclaimed her own story and taught us what it means to be free. 

Who’s a defiant person you think we should feature on the show? Or do you have a story about someone who inspired you to be “about that life"? Leave us a voicemail at 814-326-2866.&amp;nbsp;

Support the show by subscribing on Substack

Show Notes

Guest: Santi Elijah Holley website&amp;nbsp;

Lynae Vanee



Want to learn more?

Read:

An Amerikan Family: The Shakurs and the Nation They Created by Santi Elijah Holley

Assata: An Autobiography by Assata Shakur 

Follow Garrison

YouTube

TikTok

Instagram

Senior Producer: Kristen Bennett&amp;nbsp;

Producer: Matt Gant

Story Editor: Julie Caine&amp;nbsp;

Fact Checker: Sarah McClure&amp;nbsp;

Production Supervisor: Hugo Salguero

Original music &amp; sound design: Kyle Murdock&amp;nbsp;

Executive Producer: N’Jeri Eaton

Head of Brand &amp; Audience: Anhelo Reyes

Head of Video: Tonja Thigpen



Huge thanks to our partners at American Experiments Special thanks to Lynae Vanee&amp;nbsp;



To Kevin, Allie, Dom, Simone, and last but not least — Mr. Benjamin.&amp;nbsp;


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>They called her Joanne Chesimard, enemy of the state and one of the FBI’s Most Wanted. But that wasn't the real story. Assata Shakur was a Black freedom fighter. In this episode, journalist and author Santi Elijah Holley helps us dive into Assata’s story. Weaving in Assata’s own poetry read by Lynae Vanee, we tell the story of how Assata became a symbol for something she never was, the lengths the government took to paint her a terrorist, and how she boldly reclaimed her own story and taught us what it means to be free. <br></p>
<p>Who’s a defiant person you think we should feature on the show? Or do you have a story about someone who inspired you to be “about that life"? Leave us a voicemail at 814-326-2866.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Support the show by subscribing on <a href="https://garrisonhayes.substack.com/"><u>Substack</u></a></p>
<p><u>Show Notes</u></p>
<p>Guest: <a href="https://www.santielijahholley.com/about"><u>Santi Elijah Holley website&nbsp;</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/lynaevanee/?hl=en"><u>Lynae Vanee</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Want to learn more?<br></p>
<p>Read:</p>
<p><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/an-amerikan-family-the-shakurs-and-the-nation-they-created-santi-elijah-holley/0c244210db67e6b3"><u>An Amerikan Family: The Shakurs and the Nation They Created by Santi Elijah Holley</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/assata-an-autobiography-assata-shakur/e032d5709b83b5ef"><u>Assata: An Autobiography by Assata Shakur </u><br></a></p>
<p>Follow Garrison</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@GarrisonHayes/videos"><u>YouTube</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@garrisonhayes"><u>TikTok</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/garrisonh/"><u>Instagram</u></a></p>
<p>Senior Producer: Kristen Bennett&nbsp;</p>
<p>Producer: Matt Gant</p>
<p>Story Editor: Julie Caine&nbsp;</p>
<p>Fact Checker: Sarah McClure&nbsp;</p>
<p>Production Supervisor: Hugo Salguero</p>
<p>Original music &amp; sound design: Kyle Murdock&nbsp;</p>
<p>Executive Producer: N’Jeri Eaton</p>
<p>Head of Brand &amp; Audience: Anhelo Reyes</p>
<p>Head of Video: Tonja Thigpen</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Huge thanks to our partners at American Experiments Special thanks to Lynae Vanee&nbsp;</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>To Kevin, Allie, Dom, Simone, and last but not least — Mr. Benjamin.&nbsp;</p>
<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>The Slave Revolt They Tried to Erase</title>
      <description>In 1811, hundreds of enslaved people in what’s now Louisiana joined together to burn down plantations, free captives, and kill their enslavers. They came from different tribes, spoke different languages, and coordinated across long distances with one goal - freedom. So why haven't we ever heard of it? Journalist Michael Harriot joins us to tell the story of the 1811 German Coast Uprising. Who’s a defiant person you think we should feature on the show? Or do you have a story about someone who inspired you to be “about that life"? Leave us a voicemail at 814-326-2866.&amp;nbsp;

Support the show by subscribing on Substack

Show Notes

Guest: Michael Harriot&amp;nbsp;

Want to learn more?

Read:

Black AF History: The Un-Whitewashed Story of America

Watch/ Listen:Drapetomania: Diaspora Wars Part 1: The Multicultural Revolt of 1811 (featuring W. Kamau Bell and Carvell Wallace)

Follow Garrison

YouTube

TikTok

Instagram



Senior Producer: Kristen Bennett&amp;nbsp;

Producer: Matt Gant

Story Editor: Julie Caine&amp;nbsp;

Fact Checker: Sarah McClure&amp;nbsp;

Production Supervisor: Hugo Salguero

Original music &amp; sound design: Kyle Murdock&amp;nbsp;

Executive Producer: N’Jeri Eaton

Head of Brand &amp; Audience: Anhelo Reyes

Head of Video: Tonja Thigpen

Huge thanks to our partners at American Experiments&amp;nbsp;



To Kevin, Allie, Dom, Simone, and last but not least — Mr. Benjamin.&amp;nbsp;


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2026 22:04:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Garrison Hayes</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In 1811, hundreds of enslaved people in what’s now Louisiana joined together to burn down plantations, free captives, and kill their enslavers. They came from different tribes, spoke different languages, and coordinated across long distances with one goal - freedom. So why haven't we ever heard of it? Journalist Michael Harriot joins us to tell the story of the 1811 German Coast Uprising. Who’s a defiant person you think we should feature on the show? Or do you have a story about someone who inspired you to be “about that life"? Leave us a voicemail at 814-326-2866.&amp;nbsp;

Support the show by subscribing on Substack

Show Notes

Guest: Michael Harriot&amp;nbsp;

Want to learn more?

Read:

Black AF History: The Un-Whitewashed Story of America

Watch/ Listen:Drapetomania: Diaspora Wars Part 1: The Multicultural Revolt of 1811 (featuring W. Kamau Bell and Carvell Wallace)

Follow Garrison

YouTube

TikTok

Instagram



Senior Producer: Kristen Bennett&amp;nbsp;

Producer: Matt Gant

Story Editor: Julie Caine&amp;nbsp;

Fact Checker: Sarah McClure&amp;nbsp;

Production Supervisor: Hugo Salguero

Original music &amp; sound design: Kyle Murdock&amp;nbsp;

Executive Producer: N’Jeri Eaton

Head of Brand &amp; Audience: Anhelo Reyes

Head of Video: Tonja Thigpen

Huge thanks to our partners at American Experiments&amp;nbsp;



To Kevin, Allie, Dom, Simone, and last but not least — Mr. Benjamin.&amp;nbsp;


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In 1811, hundreds of enslaved people in what’s now Louisiana joined together to burn down plantations, free captives, and kill their enslavers. They came from different tribes, spoke different languages, and coordinated across long distances with one goal - freedom. So why haven't we ever heard of it? Journalist Michael Harriot joins us to tell the story of the 1811 German Coast Uprising. Who’s a defiant person you think we should feature on the show? Or do you have a story about someone who inspired you to be “about that life"? Leave us a voicemail at 814-326-2866.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Support the show by subscribing on <a href="https://garrisonhayes.substack.com/"><u>Substack</u></a></p>
<p><u>Show Notes</u></p>
<p>Guest:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/michaelharriot?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&amp;vrfl=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw=="><u> Michael Harriot&nbsp;</u></a></p>
<p>Want to learn more?<br></p>
<p>Read:</p>
<p><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/black-af-history-the-un-whitewashed-story-of-america-michael-harriot/477c46f12ab025e8?ean=9780358439165"><u>Black AF History: The Un-Whitewashed Story of America</u><br></a></p>
<p>Watch/ Listen:<a href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast/867-drapetomaniax-unshackled-h-119330282/episode/diaspora-wars-part-1-the-multicultural-revolt-of-1811-featuring-w-kamau-bell-and-carvell-wallace-120637391"><u>Drapetomania: Diaspora Wars Part 1: The Multicultural Revolt of 1811 (featuring W. Kamau Bell and Carvell Wallace)</u><br></a></p>
<p>Follow Garrison</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@GarrisonHayes/videos"><u>YouTube</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@garrisonhayes"><u>TikTok</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/garrisonh/"><u>Instagram</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Senior Producer: Kristen Bennett&nbsp;</p>
<p>Producer: Matt Gant</p>
<p>Story Editor: Julie Caine&nbsp;</p>
<p>Fact Checker: Sarah McClure&nbsp;</p>
<p>Production Supervisor: Hugo Salguero</p>
<p>Original music &amp; sound design: Kyle Murdock&nbsp;</p>
<p>Executive Producer: N’Jeri Eaton</p>
<p>Head of Brand &amp; Audience: Anhelo Reyes</p>
<p>Head of Video: Tonja Thigpen</p>
<p>Huge thanks to our partners at American Experiments&nbsp;</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>To Kevin, Allie, Dom, Simone, and last but not least — Mr. Benjamin.&nbsp;</p>
<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Gloria Richardson and The Revolutionary Road to Change</title>
      <description>When Gloria Richardson pushed a National Guardsman’s bayonet out of her face, she captured the defiant spark that made her one of the most important figures of the civil rights and Black liberation struggles. Governor Wes Moore of Maryland joins Garrison to talk about the lasting legacy of the woman known as “The Lady General of Civil Rights.”

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Show Notes

Guest: Governor Wes Moore&amp;nbsp;



Want to learn more?

Read:

The Struggle is Eternal: Gloria Richardson and Black LiberationCivil War on Race Street: The Civil Rights Movement in Cambridge, Maryland

Watch: Gloria Hayes Richardson Oral History InterviewGloria Richardson Talks About the Civil Rights Movement in Cambridge, Maryland

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Senior Producer: Kristen Bennett&amp;nbsp;

Producer: Matt Gant

Story Editor: Julie Caine&amp;nbsp;

Fact Checker: Sarah McClure&amp;nbsp;

Production Supervisor: Hugo Salguero

Original music &amp; sound design: Kyle Murdock&amp;nbsp;

Executive Producer: N’Jeri Eaton

Head of Brand &amp; Audience: Anhelo Reyes

Head of Video: Tonja Thigpen

Huge thanks to our partners at American Experiments



To Kevin, Allie, Dom, Simone, and last but not least — Mr. Benjamin.&amp;nbsp;


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 17:59:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Garrison Hayes</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>When Gloria Richardson pushed a National Guardsman’s bayonet out of her face, she captured the defiant spark that made her one of the most important figures of the civil rights and Black liberation struggles. Governor Wes Moore of Maryland joins Garrison to talk about the lasting legacy of the woman known as “The Lady General of Civil Rights.”

Who’s a defiant person you think we should feature on the show? Or do you have a story about someone who inspired you to be “about that life"? Leave us a voicemail at 814-326-2866.&amp;nbsp;

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Show Notes

Guest: Governor Wes Moore&amp;nbsp;



Want to learn more?

Read:

The Struggle is Eternal: Gloria Richardson and Black LiberationCivil War on Race Street: The Civil Rights Movement in Cambridge, Maryland

Watch: Gloria Hayes Richardson Oral History InterviewGloria Richardson Talks About the Civil Rights Movement in Cambridge, Maryland

Follow Garrison

YouTube

TikTok

Instagram

Senior Producer: Kristen Bennett&amp;nbsp;

Producer: Matt Gant

Story Editor: Julie Caine&amp;nbsp;

Fact Checker: Sarah McClure&amp;nbsp;

Production Supervisor: Hugo Salguero

Original music &amp; sound design: Kyle Murdock&amp;nbsp;

Executive Producer: N’Jeri Eaton

Head of Brand &amp; Audience: Anhelo Reyes

Head of Video: Tonja Thigpen

Huge thanks to our partners at American Experiments



To Kevin, Allie, Dom, Simone, and last but not least — Mr. Benjamin.&amp;nbsp;


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>When Gloria Richardson pushed a National Guardsman’s bayonet out of her face, she captured the defiant spark that made her one of the most important figures of the civil rights and Black liberation struggles. Governor Wes Moore of Maryland joins Garrison to talk about the lasting legacy of the woman known as “The Lady General of Civil Rights.”</p>
<p>Who’s a defiant person you think we should feature on the show? Or do you have a story about someone who inspired you to be “about that life"? Leave us a voicemail at 814-326-2866.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Support the show by subscribing on <a href="https://garrisonhayes.substack.com/"><u>Substack</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><u>Show Notes</u></p>
<p>Guest:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/govwesmoore?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&amp;stkn=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw=="><u> Governor Wes Moore</u></a>&nbsp;</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Want to learn more?</p>
<p>Read:</p>
<p><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-struggle-is-eternal-gloria-richardson-and-black-liberation-joseph-r-fitzgerald/2879ba62186326ff?ean=9780813178745&amp;bkshp-astro=t"><u>The Struggle is Eternal: Gloria Richardson and Black Liberation</u></a><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/civil-war-on-race-street-the-civil-rights-movement-in-cambridge-maryland-peter-b-levy/d0a3aa3c60f53977"><u>Civil War on Race Street: The Civil Rights Movement in Cambridge, Maryland</u><br></a></p>
<p>Watch: <a href="https://www.loc.gov/item/2015669134/"><u>Gloria Hayes Richardson Oral History Interview</u></a><a href="https://youtu.be/92b2ILd11a8?si=og-N3KkSJRFLEpF3"><u>Gloria Richardson Talks About the Civil Rights Movement in Cambridge, Maryland</u></a></p>
<p>Follow Garrison</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@GarrisonHayes/videos"><u>YouTube</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@garrisonhayes"><u>TikTok</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/garrisonh/"><u>Instagram</u></a></p>
<p>Senior Producer: Kristen Bennett&nbsp;</p>
<p>Producer: Matt Gant</p>
<p>Story Editor: Julie Caine&nbsp;</p>
<p>Fact Checker: Sarah McClure&nbsp;</p>
<p>Production Supervisor: Hugo Salguero</p>
<p>Original music &amp; sound design: Kyle Murdock&nbsp;</p>
<p>Executive Producer: N’Jeri Eaton</p>
<p>Head of Brand &amp; Audience: Anhelo Reyes</p>
<p>Head of Video: Tonja Thigpen</p>
<p>Huge thanks to our partners at American Experiments</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>To Kevin, Allie, Dom, Simone, and last but not least — Mr. Benjamin.&nbsp;</p>
<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title> Dick Gregory and The Art of Subversive Comedy (with Josh Johnson)</title>
      <description>How did comedy get so… political? Well, we have Dick Gregory to partially thank for that. Garrison and comedian/The Daily Show host Josh Johnson talk about Gregory’s subversive brand of political comedy, his activism and how he put his values above the fear of being cancelled.

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Show Notes

Guest: Josh Johnson

Want to learn more?

Read:

N****r

Dick Gregory’s Political Primer

Watch:

The One &amp; Only Dick Gregory

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      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2026 00:09:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Garrison Hayes</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>How did comedy get so… political? Well, we have Dick Gregory to partially thank for that. Garrison and comedian/The Daily Show host Josh Johnson talk about Gregory’s subversive brand of political comedy, his activism and how he put his values above the fear of being cancelled.

Who’s a defiant person you think we should feature on the show? Or do you have a story about someone who inspired you to be “about that life"? Leave us a voicemail at 814-326-2866.&amp;nbsp;

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Show Notes

Guest: Josh Johnson

Want to learn more?

Read:

N****r

Dick Gregory’s Political Primer

Watch:

The One &amp; Only Dick Gregory

Follow Garrison

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        <![CDATA[<p>How did comedy get so… political? Well, we have Dick Gregory to partially thank for that. Garrison and comedian/<em>The Daily Show</em> host Josh Johnson talk about Gregory’s subversive brand of political comedy, his activism and how he put his values above the fear of being cancelled.</p>
<p>Who’s a defiant person you think we should feature on the show? Or do you have a story about someone who inspired you to be “about that life"? Leave us a voicemail at 814-326-2866.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Support the show by subscribing on <a href="https://garrisonhayes.substack.com/"><u>Substack</u></a></p>
<p><u>Show Notes</u></p>
<p>Guest: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/joshjohnsoncomedy/?hl=en"><u>Josh Johnson</u></a></p>
<p>Want to learn more?</p>
<p>Read:</p>
<p><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/nigger-an-autobiography-dick-gregory/b8687b30206a9003?ean=9780593086148&amp;listref=the-dick-gregory-collection&amp;aid=6885&amp;bkshp-astro=t"><u>N****r</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/dick-gregory-s-political-primer-dick-gregory/a67b151c9a63439f?ean=9780062981356&amp;listref=the-dick-gregory-collection&amp;aid=6885&amp;bkshp-astro=t"><u>Dick Gregory’s Political Primer</u></a></p>
<p>Watch:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnx6j1UfjW8"><u>The One &amp; Only Dick Gregory</u></a></p>
<p>Follow Garrison</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@GarrisonHayes/videos"><u>YouTube</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@garrisonhayes"><u>TikTok</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/garrisonh/"><u>Instagram</u></a><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>How to Expose a Genocide: The George Washington Williams Story</title>
      <description>Do you ever feel powerless in the face of an atrocity? Well, that never stopped George Washington Williams, a Black man who went from being a “barely literate” veteran to a crusader who exposed a genocide in the Congo and nearly toppled a king. Garrison and activist Mohammed Elnaiem discuss how we can learn from someone who let his faith and love for Black people around the world guide his actions.

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Show Notes

Guest: Mohammed Elnaiem

Want to learn more?

Read:

George Washington Williams: A Biography

History of the Negro Race: 1619-1880

King Leopold’s Ghost

Watch:

King Leopold’s Ghost

More on the crisis in the Congo:

Friends of the Congo

Congo Week (Oct 18-24, 2026)

Follow Garrison

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      <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2026 01:35:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Garrison Hayes</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Do you ever feel powerless in the face of an atrocity? Well, that never stopped George Washington Williams, a Black man who went from being a “barely literate” veteran to a crusader who exposed a genocide in the Congo and nearly toppled a king. Garrison and activist Mohammed Elnaiem discuss how we can learn from someone who let his faith and love for Black people around the world guide his actions.

Who’s a defiant person you think we should feature on the show? Or do you have a story about someone who inspired you to be “about that life"? Leave us a voicemail at 814-326-2866.&amp;nbsp;

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Show Notes

Guest: Mohammed Elnaiem

Want to learn more?

Read:

George Washington Williams: A Biography

History of the Negro Race: 1619-1880

King Leopold’s Ghost

Watch:

King Leopold’s Ghost

More on the crisis in the Congo:

Friends of the Congo

Congo Week (Oct 18-24, 2026)

Follow Garrison

YouTube

TikTok

Instagram


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Do you ever feel powerless in the face of an atrocity? Well, that never stopped George Washington Williams, a Black man who went from being a “barely literate” veteran to a crusader who exposed a genocide in the Congo and nearly toppled a king. Garrison and activist Mohammed Elnaiem discuss how we can learn from someone who let his faith and love for Black people around the world guide his actions.</p>
<p>Who’s a defiant person you think we should feature on the show? Or do you have a story about someone who inspired you to be “about that life"? Leave us a voicemail at 814-326-2866.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Support the show by subscribing on <a href="https://garrisonhayes.substack.com/"><u>Substack</u></a></p>
<p><u>Show Notes</u></p>
<p>Guest: <a href="https://decolonialcentre.org/"><u>Mohammed Elnaiem</u></a></p>
<p>Want to learn more?</p>
<p>Read:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.dukeupress.edu/george-washington-williams"><u>George Washington Williams: A Biography</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://archive.org/details/historyofnegrora01will"><u>History of the Negro Race: 1619-1880</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/king-leopolds-ghost-adam-hochschild?variant=40826914537506"><u>King Leopold’s Ghost</u></a></p>
<p>Watch:</p>
<p><a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/movie/king-leopolds-ghost/umc.cmc.k8lpx6untrxbpmodayg7ttrz"><u>King Leopold’s Ghost</u></a></p>
<p>More on the crisis in the Congo:</p>
<p><a href="https://friendsofthecongo.org/"><u>Friends of the Congo</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://congoweek.org/why-congo-week.html"><u>Congo Week (Oct 18-24, 2026)</u></a></p>
<p>Follow Garrison</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@GarrisonHayes/videos"><u>YouTube</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@garrisonhayes"><u>TikTok</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/garrisonh/"><u>Instagram</u></a></p>
<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>The Future According to Octavia Butler</title>
      <description>Episode 1 - The Future According to Octavia Butler

Sci-Fi author Octavia Butler seemed to have predicted our dystopian present over 30 years ago. But can her understanding of history help us change our future? Garrison and Erika Alexander (actor and futurist) discuss the power of radical imagination and the lasting impact of her work.

Who’s a defiant person you think we should feature on the show? Or do you have a story about someone who inspired you to be “about that life"? Leave us a voicemail at 814-326-2866.&amp;nbsp;



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Guest: Erika Alexander&amp;nbsp;



Want to learn more?

Read:

Kindred&amp;nbsp;

Parable of the Sower

Parable of the Talents&amp;nbsp;

Positive Obsession: The Life and Times of Octavia E. Butler&amp;nbsp;

Watch:

Octavia Butler: A Cautionary Tale

Octavia Butler Interview with Julie Dash

Follow Garrison Hayes:

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      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2026 06:05:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Garrison Hayes</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Episode 1 - The Future According to Octavia Butler

Sci-Fi author Octavia Butler seemed to have predicted our dystopian present over 30 years ago. But can her understanding of history help us change our future? Garrison and Erika Alexander (actor and futurist) discuss the power of radical imagination and the lasting impact of her work.

Who’s a defiant person you think we should feature on the show? Or do you have a story about someone who inspired you to be “about that life"? Leave us a voicemail at 814-326-2866.&amp;nbsp;



Support the show by subscribing on Substack.



Guest: Erika Alexander&amp;nbsp;



Want to learn more?

Read:

Kindred&amp;nbsp;

Parable of the Sower

Parable of the Talents&amp;nbsp;

Positive Obsession: The Life and Times of Octavia E. Butler&amp;nbsp;

Watch:

Octavia Butler: A Cautionary Tale

Octavia Butler Interview with Julie Dash

Follow Garrison Hayes:

YouTube

TikTok

Instagram
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>Episode 1 - The Future According to Octavia Butler</strong></p>
<p>Sci-Fi author Octavia Butler seemed to have predicted our dystopian present over 30 years ago. But can her understanding of history help us change our future? Garrison and Erika Alexander (actor and futurist) discuss the power of radical imagination and the lasting impact of her work.</p>
<p>Who’s a defiant person you think we should feature on the show? Or do you have a story about someone who inspired you to be “about that life"? Leave us a voicemail at 814-326-2866.&nbsp;</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Support the show by subscribing on <a href="https://garrisonhayes.substack.com/"><u>Substack</u></a>.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Guest: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/erikaalexanderthegreat/"><u>Erika Alexander</u></a>&nbsp;</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Want to learn more?</p>
<p>Read:</p>
<p><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/kindred-octavia-butler/98cd7991f8b05d7a?ean=9780807083697&amp;bkshp-astro=t"><u>Kindred&nbsp;</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/parable-of-the-sower-a-novel-octavia-e-butler/251d041cc94c99c2?ean=9781538732182&amp;bkshp-astro=t"><u>Parable of the Sower</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/parable-of-the-talents-a-novel-octavia-e-butler/aedf1cec79a6de08?ean=9781538732199&amp;bkshp-astro=t"><u>Parable of the Talents&nbsp;</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/positive-obsession-the-life-and-times-of-octavia-e-butler-susana-m-morris/dd4caf354a33b564"><u>Positive Obsession: The Life and Times of Octavia E. Butler</u></a>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Watch:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZkNMjsesWs&amp;t=2s"><u>Octavia Butler: A Cautionary Tale</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyjAZSnQVFw"><u>Octavia Butler Interview with Julie Dash</u></a></p>
<p>Follow Garrison Hayes:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@GarrisonHayes/videos"><u>YouTube</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@garrisonhayes"><u>TikTok</u></a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/garrisonh/"><u>Instagram</u></a><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Introducing About That Life with Garrison Hayes</title>
      <description>Lessons from the defiant ones– past and present. Coming August 26, 2026.


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      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2026 05:43:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Garrison Hayes</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Lessons from the defiant ones– past and present. Coming August 26, 2026.


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