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    <description>Who holds power, who gets silenced, and whose version of events do we believe?



International human rights lawyer Bob Amsterdam brings more than four decades of experience to conversations with people at the centre of global conflicts and controversial cases.



From geopolitics and international law to corruption, authoritarianism and high-profile criminal trials, World on Trial explores how power is exercised, how justice is contested and what happens to the people caught between them.



Expect first-hand accounts, uncomfortable questions and a host who speaks his mind. Bob challenges his guests, the narratives that dominate the headlines and the convictions you bring to them. You won’t always agree. That’s the point.



Follow World on Trial with Bob Amsterdam on YouTube, Spotify or Apple Podcasts for new episodes.</description>
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    <itunes:summary>Who holds power, who gets silenced, and whose version of events do we believe?



International human rights lawyer Bob Amsterdam brings more than four decades of experience to conversations with people at the centre of global conflicts and controversial cases.



From geopolitics and international law to corruption, authoritarianism and high-profile criminal trials, World on Trial explores how power is exercised, how justice is contested and what happens to the people caught between them.



Expect first-hand accounts, uncomfortable questions and a host who speaks his mind. Bob challenges his guests, the narratives that dominate the headlines and the convictions you bring to them. You won’t always agree. That’s the point.



Follow World on Trial with Bob Amsterdam on YouTube, Spotify or Apple Podcasts for new episodes.</itunes:summary>
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<p>International human rights lawyer Bob Amsterdam brings more than four decades of experience to conversations with people at the centre of global conflicts and controversial cases.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>From geopolitics and international law to corruption, authoritarianism and high-profile criminal trials, World on Trial explores how power is exercised, how justice is contested and what happens to the people caught between them.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Expect first-hand accounts, uncomfortable questions and a host who speaks his mind. Bob challenges his guests, the narratives that dominate the headlines and the convictions you bring to them. You won’t always agree. That’s the point.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Follow World on Trial with Bob Amsterdam on YouTube, Spotify or Apple Podcasts for new episodes.</p>]]>
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      <title>The US Midterms: Defending Trump on War, Borders and Faith, but Can His Coalition Hold Together? </title>
      <description>Donald Trump, the Iran war, and America First: what happens when campaign promises collide with the exercise of power? Stefano L. Forte, president of the New York Young Republican Club, joins international human rights lawyer Bob Amsterdam on World on Trial to debate American foreign policy, immigration, religious freedom, and the rule of law.



A committed Trump supporter, Stefano explains why he still backs the president while acknowledging that some in his orbit feel betrayed over Iran. Bob challenges him on Netanyahu's influence, while Stefano argues that the administration has failed to convince young Republicans of the case for war. Their conversation explores the competing priorities within the Trump coalition and Stefano's confidence ahead of the midterm elections.



On Ukraine, the two find common ground. Stefano discusses how his Orthodox Christian faith informs his advocacy for the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, which Bob's firm represents. They argue that American allies should face scrutiny over religious freedom and reject accusations that defending the church amounts to supporting the Russian government.



The disagreements sharpen over mass deportations and Venezuela. Bob raises concerns about human rights, sovereignty, and international law, while Stefano defends the administration's approach to immigration enforcement and American power abroad.



When national interests and stated principles collide, where should America draw the line?



Follow World on Trial with Bob Amsterdam on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts for conversations about human rights, the rule of law, and the people at the center of controversial cases.



Key topics discussed

- Trump and the Iran war

- The Trump coalition and the midterms

- Ukraine and religious freedom

- Church, state, and political pressure

- Mass deportations and assimilation

- Venezuela and American power



Episode chapters

00:00 Inside the New York Young Republican Club

04:37 Trump, Iran, and the promise of no new wars

09:25 The Trump coalition and the midterm elections

13:43 Ukraine, the Orthodox Church, and religious freedom

21:22 Accusations of being a Russian agent

23:28 Mass deportations, human rights, and assimilation

28:53 Venezuela, sovereignty, and American power</description>
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      <itunes:summary>Donald Trump, the Iran war, and America First: what happens when campaign promises collide with the exercise of power? Stefano L. Forte, president of the New York Young Republican Club, joins international human rights lawyer Bob Amsterdam on World on Trial to debate American foreign policy, immigration, religious freedom, and the rule of law.



A committed Trump supporter, Stefano explains why he still backs the president while acknowledging that some in his orbit feel betrayed over Iran. Bob challenges him on Netanyahu's influence, while Stefano argues that the administration has failed to convince young Republicans of the case for war. Their conversation explores the competing priorities within the Trump coalition and Stefano's confidence ahead of the midterm elections.



On Ukraine, the two find common ground. Stefano discusses how his Orthodox Christian faith informs his advocacy for the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, which Bob's firm represents. They argue that American allies should face scrutiny over religious freedom and reject accusations that defending the church amounts to supporting the Russian government.



The disagreements sharpen over mass deportations and Venezuela. Bob raises concerns about human rights, sovereignty, and international law, while Stefano defends the administration's approach to immigration enforcement and American power abroad.



When national interests and stated principles collide, where should America draw the line?



Follow World on Trial with Bob Amsterdam on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts for conversations about human rights, the rule of law, and the people at the center of controversial cases.



Key topics discussed

- Trump and the Iran war

- The Trump coalition and the midterms

- Ukraine and religious freedom

- Church, state, and political pressure

- Mass deportations and assimilation

- Venezuela and American power



Episode chapters

00:00 Inside the New York Young Republican Club

04:37 Trump, Iran, and the promise of no new wars

09:25 The Trump coalition and the midterm elections

13:43 Ukraine, the Orthodox Church, and religious freedom

21:22 Accusations of being a Russian agent

23:28 Mass deportations, human rights, and assimilation

28:53 Venezuela, sovereignty, and American power</itunes:summary>
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<p><br></p>
<p>A committed Trump supporter, Stefano explains why he still backs the president while acknowledging that some in his orbit feel betrayed over Iran. Bob challenges him on Netanyahu's influence, while Stefano argues that the administration has failed to convince young Republicans of the case for war. Their conversation explores the competing priorities within the Trump coalition and Stefano's confidence ahead of the midterm elections.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>On Ukraine, the two find common ground. Stefano discusses how his Orthodox Christian faith informs his advocacy for the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, which Bob's firm represents. They argue that American allies should face scrutiny over religious freedom and reject accusations that defending the church amounts to supporting the Russian government.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>The disagreements sharpen over mass deportations and Venezuela. Bob raises concerns about human rights, sovereignty, and international law, while Stefano defends the administration's approach to immigration enforcement and American power abroad.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>When national interests and stated principles collide, where should America draw the line?</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Follow World on Trial with Bob Amsterdam on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts for conversations about human rights, the rule of law, and the people at the center of controversial cases.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Key topics discussed</strong></p>
<p>- Trump and the Iran war</p>
<p>- The Trump coalition and the midterms</p>
<p>- Ukraine and religious freedom</p>
<p>- Church, state, and political pressure</p>
<p>- Mass deportations and assimilation</p>
<p>- Venezuela and American power</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Episode chapters</strong></p>
<p>00:00 Inside the New York Young Republican Club</p>
<p>04:37 Trump, Iran, and the promise of no new wars</p>
<p>09:25 The Trump coalition and the midterm elections</p>
<p>13:43 Ukraine, the Orthodox Church, and religious freedom</p>
<p>21:22 Accusations of being a Russian agent</p>
<p>23:28 Mass deportations, human rights, and assimilation</p>
<p>28:53 Venezuela, sovereignty, and American power</p>]]>
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      <description>Inside Blackwater, who carries the cost of war? Former New Zealand SAS soldier and Blackwater contractor Barrie "Baz" Rice joins international human rights lawyer Bob Amsterdam on World on Trial to discuss the Iraq War, private military contractors, and what happens when accountability breaks down in a global conflict. Drawing on his book We Were Blackwater, Barrie shares a firsthand account of violence, survival, and the distance between a mission’s promises and its reality.



Barrie traces his journey from New Zealand’s East Coast to special forces and the streets of Baghdad. He describes helping establish Blackwater’s commercial operation, working without adequate equipment, and witnessing conduct he believes turned Iraqi civilians against the contractors who claimed to be there to help.



The conversation turns to the killing of four Blackwater colleagues in Fallujah and the harder, more aggressive mindset Barrie says followed. He reflects on the suffering of Iraqi civilians, his growing reliance on alcohol, and the moment survival began to feel like a matter of time. Leaving Iraq did not mean leaving the war behind.



Longtime friends who don’t always agree, Bob and Barrie also debate military intervention in Libya and Iran, American foreign policy, and the role of private forces in modern warfare. Their conversation raises uncomfortable questions about international law, the rule of law, and who answers for the human consequences of war.



Follow World on Trial with Bob Amsterdam on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts for conversations about human rights, the rule of law, and the people at the center of controversial cases.



Content advisory: Contains strong language and descriptions of graphic violence, civilian suffering, alcohol misuse, and suicide.



Key topics discussed


  From New Zealand SAS to private security: Barrie’s Māori background, special forces training, and transition into close protection.

  Building Blackwater’s commercial operation: his account of arriving in Baghdad, inadequate equipment, and the pressures of working for private security companies.

  The Iraq occupation and insurgency: Barrie’s view of how coalition decisions and contractor behavior undermined trust among Iraqi civilians.

  Rules of engagement and accountability: his description of permissive practices, reckless conduct, and the consequences for civilians and other contractors.

  The Fallujah killings: losing four colleagues and the shift in mindset he says changed how contractors operated.

  The personal cost of war: civilian suffering, escalating drinking, emotional strain, and the difficulty of returning to family life.

  Foreign policy and international law: Bob and Barrie’s disagreement over Iran, reflections on Libya, and questions about accountability for private forces.




Episode chapters 

00:00 Highlights and introductions

02:13 From New Zealand to the SAS

07:55 Arriving in Iraq and building Blackwater’s commercial operation

12:40 The occupation and the growing insurgency

17:37 Rules of engagement and disillusionment

23:23 Fallujah, lost colleagues, and the civilian cost

34:58 Drinking, survival, and bringing the war home

42:32 Libya, Iran, and the rules of war</description>
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      <itunes:summary>Inside Blackwater, who carries the cost of war? Former New Zealand SAS soldier and Blackwater contractor Barrie "Baz" Rice joins international human rights lawyer Bob Amsterdam on World on Trial to discuss the Iraq War, private military contractors, and what happens when accountability breaks down in a global conflict. Drawing on his book We Were Blackwater, Barrie shares a firsthand account of violence, survival, and the distance between a mission’s promises and its reality.



Barrie traces his journey from New Zealand’s East Coast to special forces and the streets of Baghdad. He describes helping establish Blackwater’s commercial operation, working without adequate equipment, and witnessing conduct he believes turned Iraqi civilians against the contractors who claimed to be there to help.



The conversation turns to the killing of four Blackwater colleagues in Fallujah and the harder, more aggressive mindset Barrie says followed. He reflects on the suffering of Iraqi civilians, his growing reliance on alcohol, and the moment survival began to feel like a matter of time. Leaving Iraq did not mean leaving the war behind.



Longtime friends who don’t always agree, Bob and Barrie also debate military intervention in Libya and Iran, American foreign policy, and the role of private forces in modern warfare. Their conversation raises uncomfortable questions about international law, the rule of law, and who answers for the human consequences of war.



Follow World on Trial with Bob Amsterdam on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts for conversations about human rights, the rule of law, and the people at the center of controversial cases.



Content advisory: Contains strong language and descriptions of graphic violence, civilian suffering, alcohol misuse, and suicide.



Key topics discussed


  From New Zealand SAS to private security: Barrie’s Māori background, special forces training, and transition into close protection.

  Building Blackwater’s commercial operation: his account of arriving in Baghdad, inadequate equipment, and the pressures of working for private security companies.

  The Iraq occupation and insurgency: Barrie’s view of how coalition decisions and contractor behavior undermined trust among Iraqi civilians.

  Rules of engagement and accountability: his description of permissive practices, reckless conduct, and the consequences for civilians and other contractors.

  The Fallujah killings: losing four colleagues and the shift in mindset he says changed how contractors operated.

  The personal cost of war: civilian suffering, escalating drinking, emotional strain, and the difficulty of returning to family life.

  Foreign policy and international law: Bob and Barrie’s disagreement over Iran, reflections on Libya, and questions about accountability for private forces.




Episode chapters 

00:00 Highlights and introductions

02:13 From New Zealand to the SAS

07:55 Arriving in Iraq and building Blackwater’s commercial operation

12:40 The occupation and the growing insurgency

17:37 Rules of engagement and disillusionment

23:23 Fallujah, lost colleagues, and the civilian cost

34:58 Drinking, survival, and bringing the war home

42:32 Libya, Iran, and the rules of war</itunes:summary>
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<p><br></p>
<p>Barrie traces his journey from New Zealand’s East Coast to special forces and the streets of Baghdad. He describes helping establish Blackwater’s commercial operation, working without adequate equipment, and witnessing conduct he believes turned Iraqi civilians against the contractors who claimed to be there to help.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>The conversation turns to the killing of four Blackwater colleagues in Fallujah and the harder, more aggressive mindset Barrie says followed. He reflects on the suffering of Iraqi civilians, his growing reliance on alcohol, and the moment survival began to feel like a matter of time. Leaving Iraq did not mean leaving the war behind.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Longtime friends who don’t always agree, Bob and Barrie also debate military intervention in Libya and Iran, American foreign policy, and the role of private forces in modern warfare. Their conversation raises uncomfortable questions about international law, the rule of law, and who answers for the human consequences of war.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Follow World on Trial with Bob Amsterdam on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts for conversations about human rights, the rule of law, and the people at the center of controversial cases.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><em>Content advisory: Contains strong language and descriptions of graphic violence, civilian suffering, alcohol misuse, and suicide.</em></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Key topics discussed</strong></p>
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  <li><strong>From New Zealand SAS to private security:</strong> Barrie’s Māori background, special forces training, and transition into close protection.</li>
  <li><strong>Building Blackwater’s commercial operation:</strong> his account of arriving in Baghdad, inadequate equipment, and the pressures of working for private security companies.</li>
  <li><strong>The Iraq occupation and insurgency:</strong> Barrie’s view of how coalition decisions and contractor behavior undermined trust among Iraqi civilians.</li>
  <li><strong>Rules of engagement and accountability:</strong> his description of permissive practices, reckless conduct, and the consequences for civilians and other contractors.</li>
  <li><strong>The Fallujah killings:</strong> losing four colleagues and the shift in mindset he says changed how contractors operated.</li>
  <li><strong>The personal cost of war:</strong> civilian suffering, escalating drinking, emotional strain, and the difficulty of returning to family life.</li>
  <li><strong>Foreign policy and international law:</strong> Bob and Barrie’s disagreement over Iran, reflections on Libya, and questions about accountability for private forces.</li>
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<p><strong>Episode chapters </strong></p>
<p>00:00 Highlights and introductions</p>
<p>02:13 From New Zealand to the SAS</p>
<p>07:55 Arriving in Iraq and building Blackwater’s commercial operation</p>
<p>12:40 The occupation and the growing insurgency</p>
<p>17:37 Rules of engagement and disillusionment</p>
<p>23:23 Fallujah, lost colleagues, and the civilian cost</p>
<p>34:58 Drinking, survival, and bringing the war home</p>
<p>42:32 Libya, Iran, and the rules of war</p>]]>
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      <title>Is Religious Freedom Under Threat in Ukraine? Artem Dmytruk Speaks Out</title>
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      <description>The Ukraine war, religious freedom, and the rule of law: what happens when a member of parliament challenges his own government? Ukrainian MP and Orthodox deacon Artem Dmytruk joins international human rights lawyer Bob Amsterdam on World on Trial to discuss the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, his opposition to President Volodymyr Zelensky, and his and his allegations of kidnapping and torture by Ukraine’s Security Service.

Artem recounts the opening days of Russia's full-scale invasion, from emergency meetings in Kyiv to organizing volunteers in Odesa. He describes bringing people together to protect his city and explains why he rejects claims that defending the Ukrainian Orthodox Church means supporting Russia.

Bob discusses his firm's representation of the church and why he believes the Ukrainian government's actions violate religious freedom and international law. Artem describes his opposition to legislation targeting the church and the threats and pressure he says followed his public defense of it.

The conversation turns to Artem's personal experience of torture, the London extradition proceedings, and Bob's account of a court's refusal to return him to Ukraine. It closes with Artem's views on political prisoners, the prospects for peace, and the future of political opposition in Ukraine.

At the center is a principle with consequences beyond this conflict: basic human rights cannot be abandoned even at times of war - and doing so is counterproductive.

Follow World on Trial with Bob Amsterdam on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts for conversations about human rights, the rule of law, and the people at the center of controversial cases.

Key topics discussed

- The opening days of the invasion: Artem's account of events in Kyiv and his return to Odesa to organize volunteers and help protect the city.

- The Ukrainian Orthodox Church: its role in Ukrainian society and Artem's rejection of allegations that defending it amounts to supporting Russia.

- Religious freedom and international law: Bob's explanation of his firm's work for the church and its challenge to the Ukrainian government's actions.

- Dissent and political power: Artem's criticism of Zelensky and his account of opposing legislation targeting the church.

- Allegations of kidnapping and torture: Artem's claims about his treatment by Ukraine's Security Service and the risks he says critics face.

- Extradition and the rule of law: Bob's account of the London proceedings and the court's refusal to return Artem to Ukraine.

- Political prisoners and prospects for peace: Artem's views on wartime repression, political opposition, and Ukraine's future.

Episode chapters
00:00 Highlights, introductions, and Bob's work for the church
08:44 Russia's invasion: Artem's account of the first days
17:17 The church, the war, and Zelensky's leadership
21:01 The dispute over the Ukrainian Orthodox Church
24:44 Artem's allegations of kidnapping and torture
26:58 Speaking out in parliament and the extradition case
34:23 Political prisoners and prospects for peace


https://linktr.ee/worldontrialpodcast</description>
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      <itunes:summary>The Ukraine war, religious freedom, and the rule of law: what happens when a member of parliament challenges his own government? Ukrainian MP and Orthodox deacon Artem Dmytruk joins international human rights lawyer Bob Amsterdam on World on Trial to discuss the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, his opposition to President Volodymyr Zelensky, and his and his allegations of kidnapping and torture by Ukraine’s Security Service.

Artem recounts the opening days of Russia's full-scale invasion, from emergency meetings in Kyiv to organizing volunteers in Odesa. He describes bringing people together to protect his city and explains why he rejects claims that defending the Ukrainian Orthodox Church means supporting Russia.

Bob discusses his firm's representation of the church and why he believes the Ukrainian government's actions violate religious freedom and international law. Artem describes his opposition to legislation targeting the church and the threats and pressure he says followed his public defense of it.

The conversation turns to Artem's personal experience of torture, the London extradition proceedings, and Bob's account of a court's refusal to return him to Ukraine. It closes with Artem's views on political prisoners, the prospects for peace, and the future of political opposition in Ukraine.

At the center is a principle with consequences beyond this conflict: basic human rights cannot be abandoned even at times of war - and doing so is counterproductive.

Follow World on Trial with Bob Amsterdam on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts for conversations about human rights, the rule of law, and the people at the center of controversial cases.

Key topics discussed

- The opening days of the invasion: Artem's account of events in Kyiv and his return to Odesa to organize volunteers and help protect the city.

- The Ukrainian Orthodox Church: its role in Ukrainian society and Artem's rejection of allegations that defending it amounts to supporting Russia.

- Religious freedom and international law: Bob's explanation of his firm's work for the church and its challenge to the Ukrainian government's actions.

- Dissent and political power: Artem's criticism of Zelensky and his account of opposing legislation targeting the church.

- Allegations of kidnapping and torture: Artem's claims about his treatment by Ukraine's Security Service and the risks he says critics face.

- Extradition and the rule of law: Bob's account of the London proceedings and the court's refusal to return Artem to Ukraine.

- Political prisoners and prospects for peace: Artem's views on wartime repression, political opposition, and Ukraine's future.

Episode chapters
00:00 Highlights, introductions, and Bob's work for the church
08:44 Russia's invasion: Artem's account of the first days
17:17 The church, the war, and Zelensky's leadership
21:01 The dispute over the Ukrainian Orthodox Church
24:44 Artem's allegations of kidnapping and torture
26:58 Speaking out in parliament and the extradition case
34:23 Political prisoners and prospects for peace


https://linktr.ee/worldontrialpodcast</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The Ukraine war, religious freedom, and the rule of law: what happens when a member of parliament challenges his own government? Ukrainian MP and Orthodox deacon Artem Dmytruk joins international human rights lawyer Bob Amsterdam on World on Trial to discuss the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, his opposition to President Volodymyr Zelensky, and his and his allegations of kidnapping and torture by Ukraine’s Security Service.

Artem recounts the opening days of Russia's full-scale invasion, from emergency meetings in Kyiv to organizing volunteers in Odesa. He describes bringing people together to protect his city and explains why he rejects claims that defending the Ukrainian Orthodox Church means supporting Russia.

Bob discusses his firm's representation of the church and why he believes the Ukrainian government's actions violate religious freedom and international law. Artem describes his opposition to legislation targeting the church and the threats and pressure he says followed his public defense of it.

The conversation turns to Artem's personal experience of torture, the London extradition proceedings, and Bob's account of a court's refusal to return him to Ukraine. It closes with Artem's views on political prisoners, the prospects for peace, and the future of political opposition in Ukraine.

At the center is a principle with consequences beyond this conflict: basic human rights cannot be abandoned even at times of war - and doing so is counterproductive.

Follow World on Trial with Bob Amsterdam on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts for conversations about human rights, the rule of law, and the people at the center of controversial cases.

Key topics discussed

- The opening days of the invasion: Artem's account of events in Kyiv and his return to Odesa to organize volunteers and help protect the city.

- The Ukrainian Orthodox Church: its role in Ukrainian society and Artem's rejection of allegations that defending it amounts to supporting Russia.

- Religious freedom and international law: Bob's explanation of his firm's work for the church and its challenge to the Ukrainian government's actions.

- Dissent and political power: Artem's criticism of Zelensky and his account of opposing legislation targeting the church.

- Allegations of kidnapping and torture: Artem's claims about his treatment by Ukraine's Security Service and the risks he says critics face.

- Extradition and the rule of law: Bob's account of the London proceedings and the court's refusal to return Artem to Ukraine.

- Political prisoners and prospects for peace: Artem's views on wartime repression, political opposition, and Ukraine's future.

Episode chapters
00:00 Highlights, introductions, and Bob's work for the church
08:44 Russia's invasion: Artem's account of the first days
17:17 The church, the war, and Zelensky's leadership
21:01 The dispute over the Ukrainian Orthodox Church
24:44 Artem's allegations of kidnapping and torture
26:58 Speaking out in parliament and the extradition case
34:23 Political prisoners and prospects for peace


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Karen discusses her defense of Mangione, the public response to his case, and why she believes competing state and federal prosecutions threaten a fair hearing. Marc shares his perspective on defending Combs and Harvey Weinstein, questioning how prosecutors choose their targets and how juries separate courtroom evidence from public opinion.


Both former prosecutors, the guests don’t agree on everything. Their conversation moves from the death penalty and alternatives to incarceration to the Epstein files, social media, and whether the internet makes us better informed or more polarized. Karen makes the case for independent legal commentary, while Marc argues that something essential is lost when information replaces deeper understanding.


The episode closes with a question that reaches beyond the United States: how freely can lawyers defend their clients when their own advocacy risks punishment?


Follow World on Trial with Bob Amsterdam on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts for conversations about human rights, the rule of law, and the people at the center of controversial cases.


Key topics discussed


  Luigi Mangione’s defense: parallel state and federal prosecutions, the fight over the death penalty, and Karen’s concerns about pretrial publicity.

  Sean “Diddy” Combs and federal prosecution: Marc’s argument that high-profile defendants can become targets of prosecutorial “big game hunting.”

  Prosecutorial power: political ambition, competition between offices, and the distinction between local and federal law enforcement.

  Progressive prosecution: Karen’s case for targeted enforcement, diversion programs, and alternatives to incarceration.

  The Epstein files and Harvey Weinstein: disclosure, guilt by association, and the challenge of keeping juries focused on evidence.

  Social media and democracy: independent legal analysis, misinformation, AI, and the value of an informed public.

  The freedom to defend: contempt of court, jury nullification, and the potential chilling effect of sanctions against defense lawyers.


Episode chapters

00:00 Highlights and introductions

01:55 Luigi Mangione and the right to a fair trial

10:43 Political prosecutions and the Sean Combs case

17:15 Why prosecutors compete for high-profile cases

22:33 Progressive prosecution and public safety

32:08 The Epstein files, Weinstein, and trial by media

37:49 Does the internet help or harm democracy?

52:24 Defense lawyers, contempt, and jury independence</description>
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Karen discusses her defense of Mangione, the public response to his case, and why she believes competing state and federal prosecutions threaten a fair hearing. Marc shares his perspective on defending Combs and Harvey Weinstein, questioning how prosecutors choose their targets and how juries separate courtroom evidence from public opinion.


Both former prosecutors, the guests don’t agree on everything. Their conversation moves from the death penalty and alternatives to incarceration to the Epstein files, social media, and whether the internet makes us better informed or more polarized. Karen makes the case for independent legal commentary, while Marc argues that something essential is lost when information replaces deeper understanding.


The episode closes with a question that reaches beyond the United States: how freely can lawyers defend their clients when their own advocacy risks punishment?


Follow World on Trial with Bob Amsterdam on YouTube, Spotify, or Apple Podcasts for conversations about human rights, the rule of law, and the people at the center of controversial cases.


Key topics discussed


  Luigi Mangione’s defense: parallel state and federal prosecutions, the fight over the death penalty, and Karen’s concerns about pretrial publicity.

  Sean “Diddy” Combs and federal prosecution: Marc’s argument that high-profile defendants can become targets of prosecutorial “big game hunting.”

  Prosecutorial power: political ambition, competition between offices, and the distinction between local and federal law enforcement.

  Progressive prosecution: Karen’s case for targeted enforcement, diversion programs, and alternatives to incarceration.

  The Epstein files and Harvey Weinstein: disclosure, guilt by association, and the challenge of keeping juries focused on evidence.

  Social media and democracy: independent legal analysis, misinformation, AI, and the value of an informed public.

  The freedom to defend: contempt of court, jury nullification, and the potential chilling effect of sanctions against defense lawyers.


Episode chapters

00:00 Highlights and introductions

01:55 Luigi Mangione and the right to a fair trial

10:43 Political prosecutions and the Sean Combs case

17:15 Why prosecutors compete for high-profile cases

22:33 Progressive prosecution and public safety

32:08 The Epstein files, Weinstein, and trial by media

37:49 Does the internet help or harm democracy?

52:24 Defense lawyers, contempt, and jury independence</itunes:summary>
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  <li>Progressive prosecution: Karen’s case for targeted enforcement, diversion programs, and alternatives to incarceration.</li>
  <li>The Epstein files and Harvey Weinstein: disclosure, guilt by association, and the challenge of keeping juries focused on evidence.</li>
  <li>Social media and democracy: independent legal analysis, misinformation, AI, and the value of an informed public.</li>
  <li>The freedom to defend: contempt of court, jury nullification, and the potential chilling effect of sanctions against defense lawyers.</li>
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<p>22:33 Progressive prosecution and public safety</p>
<p>32:08 The Epstein files, Weinstein, and trial by media</p>
<p>37:49 Does the internet help or harm democracy?</p>
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