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320. TNE TALKS: Challenging Narratives with a Grassroots Faith

Mon, 14 Oct 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this TALKS Episode, Tim engages in a candid conversation with Ben Cremer about the challenges of content creation, the influence of money in media, and the struggle to counteract hate in the current socio-political climate. They discuss the complexities of finding common ground with extreme ideologies, the cynicism surrounding white evangelicalism, and the need for grassroots change. The conversation highlights the distinction between a political movement and a genuine Christian movement, emphasizing the importance of addressing the heart of the issues at hand. In this conversation, Tim and Ben explore the intersection of Christianity and politics, particularly how political movements have co-opted Christian identity for their own agendas. They discuss the historical context of anti-immigrant sentiment within evangelicalism, the shift in immigration policy, and the implications of legalism versus the gospel.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the New Evangelicals Podcast

03:52 The Influence of Money in Media

18:33 Finding Common Ground in Extremism

25:52 Cynicism Towards White Evangelicalism

35:26 Political Movement vs. Christian Movement

41:07 Historical Context of Anti-Immigrant Sentiment

55:30 Legalism vs. Gospel: A Call for Accountability

01:01:39 Reimagining Christian Identity in Modern America

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Ben on X | @Brcremer

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319. TNE RECAPS: 55,000 Trump Bibles

Fri, 11 Oct 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this RECAPS episode, Tim and April discuss various pressing issues within the Christian culture, including the impact of climate change, the role of gender in media, and the political implications of evangelical beliefs. They reflect on personal accountability in discourse, the consequences of rapture theology on environmentalism, and the recent financial fraud allegations against Gateway Church. The conversation also critiques the intertwining of politics and theology in contemporary sermons, particularly those promoting Christian nationalism. In this conversation, the speakers delve into the historical context of abortion and the shifting rhetoric of evangelicalism, particularly in relation to political messaging and Christian nationalism. They discuss the implications of these shifts on public education, the misunderstanding of gender and sexuality, and the role of figures like Trump in promoting a Christian nationalist agenda. The conversation culminates in a call to action for listeners to engage politically and vote against the rising tide of Christian nationalism.

Chapters

03:11 Current Events in Christian Culture

06:07 Repentance and Accountability in Discourse

09:59 Hurricanes and Climate Change Conspiracies

14:46 The Impact of Rapture Theology on Environmentalism

25:11 Financial Fraud Allegations Against Gateway Church

30:04 Political Sermons and Christian Nationalism

47:56 Historical Context of Abortion and Evangelicalism

53:34 Decoding Political Messaging in Christianity

59:11 Trump and Christian Nationalism

01:10:49 The Threat of Christian Nationalism in Schools

01:24:29 The Call to Action: Voting Against Christian Nationalism

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318. TNE RESPONDS: Israel, Hamas and the Threat of All Out War

Wed, 09 Oct 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, host Tim reflects on the first anniversary of the Hamas attacks on Israel, discussing the ongoing Israel-Palestine conflict with guests Kevin Carnahan and Daniel Bonora. The conversation delves into the historical context of the conflict, the impact of media narratives, and the personal stories of those affected by the violence. The guests emphasize the importance of understanding different perspectives, particularly from Palestinian voices, and the ethical dilemmas surrounding violence and retaliation. They also discuss the political implications of U.S. support for Israel and the need for Christians to engage in justice and mercy for all people involved in the conflict.

Chapters

01:02 Reflecting on the First Anniversary of the Hamas Attacks

04:09 Understanding the Historical Context of the Israel-Palestine Conflict

10:10 Perspectives from Palestinian Voices

14:50 The Role of Media and Western Narratives

19:58 The Human Cost of Conflict: Personal Stories

29:47 Political Implications and the Role of the U.S.

37:04 The Future of the Israel-Palestine Conflict

52:07 Final Thoughts and Reflections

Kevin Carnahan's Website | https://sites.google.com/site/kevinmcarnahan/

Daniel Bannoura's Website | danielbannoura.com

TNE Episode 176 with Kevin | Understanding Isreal and Palestine Pt 1: Blame the British

TNE Episode 178 with Daniel | Understanding Israel and Palestine Pt. 3: A Palestinian Speaks

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317. TNE TALKS: Exvangelical and Beyond with Blake Chastain

Mon, 07 Oct 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this conversation, Tim and Blake Chastain discuss the origins and implications of the exvangelical movement, exploring how American Christianity has radicalized over the years. They delve into the role of social media in facilitating deconstruction, the historical context of evangelicalism, and the intersection of race and faith.

Chapters

03:08 The Origins of Exvangelical Movement

05:53 The Role of Social Media in Deconstruction

09:14 Historical Context of American Christianity

12:04 The Radicalization of American Christianity

14:59 The Intersection of Race and Evangelicalism

17:49 The Conservative Resurgence in the SBC

21:09 Defining Evangelicalism and Fundamentalism

24:00 The Future of Exvangelicalism

27:13 Personal Reflections on Faith and Identity

Blake's Book | Exvangelical and Beyond: How American Christianity Went Radical and the Movement That's Fighting Back

Blake's Website | blakechastain.com

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316. TNE RECAPS: Russell Brand Grifts Evangelicals

Fri, 04 Oct 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, Tim and April discuss various current events affecting Christian culture, including Melania Trump's recent statements on abortion rights, the hypocrisy of pro-life advocates, and the implications of immigration policies. They also delve into the controversial transformation of Russell Brand from a leftist to a right-wing figure, examining the evangelical response to his actions and the inconsistencies within Christian nationalism. The conversation highlights the challenges faced by moderates in the evangelical community and the broader implications for American democracy.

Chapters

01:05 Current Events in Christian Culture

06:03 April's Book and Personal Updates

11:50 Melania Trump's Abortion Rights Statement

16:59 The Hypocrisy of Pro-Life Advocates

24:00 The Double Standards in Crime and Immigration

30:08 Debate Coverage and Political Commentary

35:02 The Impact of Hurricane Helene

50:10 The Evangelical Response to Russell Brand

59:57 The Inconsistencies of Christian Nationalism

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315. TNE RESPONDS: John Mark Comer's "Deconstruction" Doesn’t Check Out

Wed, 02 Oct 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this RECAPS episode, Tim critiques John Mark Comer’s views on deconstruction, exploring the complexities and nuances of faith transformation. Tim argues that deconstruction is often mischaracterized and emphasizes the need for understanding the cultural and political contexts that influence faith journeys. He reflects on the legacy of white evangelicalism, its shortcomings, and the importance of advocating for marginalized communities. The conversation highlights personal experiences of deconstruction and the quest for a more inclusive faith.

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Chapters

01:02 Getting into John Mark Comer's "Deconstruction"

06:08 Understanding Deconstruction: Perspectives and Mischaracterizations

11:52 The Impact of Cultural and Political Context on Faith

17:58 The Legacy of White Evangelicalism and Its Critique

24:06 Personal Reflections on Deconstruction and Acceptance

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314. TNE TALKS: Star-Spangled Jesus with April Ajoy

Mon, 30 Sep 2024 05:00:00 -0000

In this TALKS episode, host Tim interviews April Ajoy about her book 'Star Spangled Jesus: Leaving Christian Nationalism and Finding True Faith.' They discuss April's journey from a deeply rooted Christian nationalist background to a more inclusive and empathetic faith. The conversation explores the intersections of theology, politics, and personal experiences, highlighting the challenges of deconstructing fundamentalist beliefs and embracing a more expansive understanding of faith. April shares her personal stories, the impact of her father's death, and the importance of empathy in navigating the complexities of faith and identity.

Chapters

02:54 April's Journey: From Christian Nationalism to True Faith

17:57 The Cracks in Fundamentalism: Personal Stories and Experiences

40:27 Empathy vs. Dogma: Navigating the Christian Landscape

49:20 Conclusion: Understanding Christian Nationalism and Its Impact

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313. TNE RECAPS: The Christian Obsession with the Death Penalty

Fri, 27 Sep 2024 12:04:00 -0000

In this RECAPS episode, Tim and April discuss various topics surrounding Christian nationalism, including the recent execution of Marcellus Williams, the implications of the death penalty, and the disconnect between Christian values and political actions. They also touch on the influence of figures like Franklin Graham and the cultural commentary surrounding the evangelical community's stance on social issues. The conversation highlights the complexities and contradictions within Christian nationalism, emphasizing the need for a more compassionate and just approach to faith and politics.

Chapters

11:47 In-Person Event Recap and Personal Confessions

12:46 Discussion on Marcellus Williams Case

20:04 Christian Nationalism and the Death Penalty

30:12 The Role of Authority in Christian Nationalism

41:32 The Disconnect in Christian Nationalist Values

46:18 Franklin Graham and Political Endorsements

01:01:10 Cultural Commentary on Christian Nationalism

01:36:36 Conclusion and Upcoming Events

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312. TNE RESPONDS: Summit to Defend Democracy Recap

Wed, 25 Sep 2024 13:57:34 -0000

In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, Tim reflects on his experience at the Test of Faith summit, which focused on defending democracy and countering Christian nationalism. He shares insights from various Christian leaders who advocate for inclusivity, social justice, and a more compassionate interpretation of Christian teachings. Tim contrasts the messages from this summit with those from Christian nationalist events, emphasizing the importance of love, justice, and community in the Christian faith.

Faith & Democracy | faithanddemocracy.net

Test of Faith Summit | testoffaith.org

Episode 204 | America Fest: What You Need to Know

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the New Evangelicals Podcast

00:34 Experiencing the Test of Faith Summit

06:09 The Power of Progressive Christian Voices

10:19 The Christian Alternative to Nationalism

12:16 Contrasting Christian Nationalism and Democratic Values

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311. TNE TALKS: Latasha Morrison on Racial Justice, Faith, and the Path to Reconciliation

Mon, 23 Sep 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, host Tim engages in a profound conversation with Latasha Morrison, founder of Be The Bridge. They explore Morrison's journey from her upbringing in a diverse community to her pivotal role in addressing systemic racism within predominantly white evangelical spaces.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the New Evangelicals Podcast

01:50 Latasha Morrison: A Journey of Bridge Building

04:18 The Role of Diversity in Faith Communities

08:05 Personal Background and the Impact of Evangelicalism

19:41 The Birth of Be The Bridge

26:55 Navigating the Challenges of White Evangelical Spaces

39:12 The Importance of Truth in Racial Conversations

52:10 Hope and Change in Political Landscapes

01:03:21 Practical Steps for White Allies in Racial Justice

Latasha's Website | latashamorrison.com

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310. TNE RECAPS: Lying About Immigrants in the Name of God

Fri, 20 Sep 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, Tim and April discuss various topics related to the intersection of Christianity and politics, including Tim's recent experiences in Washington D.C., the impact of political violence, gun control, and the rhetoric surrounding immigration. They also delve into the implications of right-wing extremism, particularly focusing on figures like Laura Loomer and the narratives that fuel anti-immigrant sentiment. The conversation highlights the disconnect between right-wing media narratives and reality, emphasizing the need for accountability and truth in political discourse.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the New Evangelicals Podcast

02:58 Tim's Experience in Washington D.C.

06:12 The Glory Bus and Vocal Rest

09:01 Tim's Transition from Music to Podcasting

14:57 Gun Control and Political Rhetoric

20:12 The Role of Rhetoric in Political Violence

29:06 Immigration and Anti-Immigrant Sentiment

34:05 The Impact of False Narratives on Communities

42:08 The Role of Deception in Politics

51:06 Tweets of the Week and Cultural Commentary

55:50 Conclusion and Call to Action

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309. TNE RESPONDS: Eric Metaxas Doesn’t Know Sh*t About Dietrich Bonhoeffer

Wed, 18 Sep 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, host Tim engages in a deep conversation with Tripp Fuller about Dietrich Bonhoeffer, his theological journey, and the misuse of his legacy by modern Christian nationalists. They explore Bonhoeffer's resistance to the Nazi regime, the role of the church during that time, and the implications for today's political climate, particularly in relation to the rise of authoritarianism and the rhetoric of figures like Eric Metaxas. The discussion emphasizes the importance of understanding history to navigate current challenges in faith and society. In this conversation, Tim and Tripp explore the intersections of culture, politics, and faith, particularly focusing on the role of the church in contemporary society. They discuss the misuse of historical figures like Bonhoeffer in modern evangelical rhetoric, the cultural comparisons made by political figures, and the implications of a persecution complex within white evangelicalism. The dialogue emphasizes the need for a re-evaluation of faith that prioritizes love and justice over political power, advocating for a 'religionless Christianity' that aligns with the teachings of Christ.

Highlights:

01:01 Understanding Dietrich Bonhoeffer

12:50 The Rise of Christian Nationalism

26:49 The Role of the Church in Nazi Germany

39:08 Bonhoeffer's Legacy and Modern Implications

54:56 Eric Metaxas and Misinterpretation of Bonhoeffer

01:01:45 Cultural Comparisons and Historical Contexts

01:04:11 The Role of the Church in Society

01:10:52 Bonhoeffer's Legacy and Misinterpretations

01:16:28 The Misuse of Historical Analogies

01:25:11 The Persecution Complex in Evangelicalism

01:30:05 The Contradictions of White Evangelicalism

01:35:17 Bonhoeffer's Transformation and the Call to Action

01:40:52 The Invitation to a New Understanding of Faith

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308. TNE TALKS: White Poverty with Jonathan Wilson Hartgrove

Mon, 16 Sep 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode, Tim interviews Jonathan Wilson Hartgrove, a spiritual writer, preacher, and community cultivator. They discuss how Christians can engage differently in politics and civic engagement, particularly in relation to Christian nationalism.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Overview

02:19 Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove's Background and Journey

08:01 Realizing the Disconnect Between Faith and Politics

13:00 Rethinking Traditional Christian Narratives

19:14 Understanding the Influence of Propaganda

21:01 Finding Common Ground and Avoiding Demonization

25:07 The Importance of Democracy and the Common Good

27:46 The Dangers of Christian Nationalism and Idolatry

34:31 Resisting Christian Nationalism and Building a Better Christianity

42:06 Engaging in Political Advocacy and Voting for the Common Good

52:30 The Poor People's Campaign: Addressing Poverty and Inequality

Jonathan's Website | jonathanwilsonhartgrove.com

Looking to get involved? | poorpeoplescampaign.org

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307. TNE RECAPS: Harris Cooks Trump. Christian Nationalists Blame Everyone Else

Fri, 13 Sep 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, hosts Tim and April recap the latest happenings in Christian culture, focusing on the recent debates between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. They discuss the implications of Christian nationalism in politics, the spread of misinformation, and the role of conspiracies in shaping public opinion. The conversation highlights the importance of fact-checking and the need for accountability within the evangelical community while also calling listeners to engage in the political process and vote.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the New Evangelicals Podcast

10:01 Debate Recap: Biden vs. Trump

19:54 Kamala Harris vs. Trump: A Night and Day Comparison

30:10 Fact-Checking the Debate: Truth vs. Lies

39:55 The Role of Christian Nationalism in Politics

49:46 Conspiracies and Misinformation in the Right-Wing Sphere

01:00:14 The Impact of Evangelicalism on American Politics

01:10:10 Closing Thoughts and Call to Action

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306. TNE RESPONDS: The Black History You Don’t Know with Jemar Tisby

Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode, Tim and Dr. Jemar Tisby discuss Dr. Tisby's new book, 'The Spirit of Justice,' which highlights key figures in the black Christian tradition who have pushed the church forward. They also explore the history of racial progress and the patterns of backlash that have occurred throughout history. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding and learning from the black history that is often overlooked or erased. The conversation explores the audacious story of Robert Smalls, a formerly enslaved person who stole a Confederate ship during the Civil War and escaped to freedom. It highlights the importance of political democratic participation for black people, even in the shadow of slavery and the Civil War. The conversation also delves into the themes of deconstruction and decolonization in the context of faith and politics, emphasizing the need to learn from black Christians and center their voices. It concludes with a discussion on the significance of history and the importance of studying racial history in our current cultural moment.

Highlights:

13:45 The Spirit of Justice

21:39 Courage and Resilience in the Face of Injustice

26:27 Uncovering Overlooked Black History

39:31 The Importance of Political Democratic Participation for Black People

45:21 Deconstruction and Decolonization: Learning from Black Christians

55:43 The Myth of Being on the Right Side of History

01:01:03 Principles over Party: Making Informed Political Choices

01:09:24 Taking Ownership of Our Education: Learning About Marginalized Communities

01:13:33 The Significance of History in Understanding Our Current Cultural Moment

Jemar's Website | jemartisby.com

Jemar's Books:

The Spirit of Justice: True Stories of Faith, Race, and Resistance

The Color of Compromise: The Truth about the American Church’s Complicity in Racism

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305. TNE TALKS: The John the Baptist You’ve Never Heard of

Mon, 09 Sep 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode, Tim interviews James McGrath, a Bible scholar and author of the book Christmaker: A Life of John the Baptist. They discuss the misconceptions and stereotypes surrounding John the Baptist and how understanding him better can lead to a better understanding of Jesus.

Highlights

00:00 Introduction and Overview

03:40 The Two Books on John the Baptist

08:12 John the Baptist: An Anti-Establishment Figure

11:56 The Impact and Fame of John the Baptist

26:04 Jesus' Association with John's Movement

28:24 John the Baptist and Jesus: A Shared Movement within Judaism

33:14 Challenging Established Religious Practices: Animal Sacrifice and the Temple

39:38 John's Emphasis on Social and Economic Justice

45:15 Calling for System Change: John's Message of Transformation

50:03 Inclusivity and Expansiveness: A Theme in the Bible and Christian Tradition

James's Book | Christmaker: A Life of John the Baptist

Jame's on X | @ReligionProf

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304. TNE RECAPS: The Double Standards of Christian Nationalists

Fri, 06 Sep 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this RECAPS episode, Tim and April discuss various topics, including parenting, gun control, and a lawsuit challenging the Johnson Amendment. They express frustration with the lack of action on gun control and the hypocrisy of some evangelical Christians who advocate for pro-life policies but resist common-sense gun regulations. They also highlight the lawsuit filed by the National Religious Broadcasters and two Baptist churches against the IRS, seeking the ability to endorse political candidates without risking their tax-exempt status. The hosts emphasize the importance of maintaining the separation of church and state and the need for responsible gun ownership. In this part of the conversation, Tim and April discuss two separate topics. First, they talk about James and Bridget Morris, who are starting a new church after James resigned from Gateway Church. They discuss the allegations against James' father, Robert Morris, and the questionable actions of the church. They find her website and discuss the extravagant offerings she provides. Finally, they briefly mention a video they found called the 'Bible Band' and JD Vance's comments on childcare. In this final part of the conversation, Tim and April discuss the fear-mongering and persecution complex within certain segments of Christianity.

Chapters

23:05 Lawsuit Challenges Johnson Amendment

26:26 Maintaining the Separation of Church and State

31:14 The Need for Responsible Gun Ownership

33:13 Questionable Actions and New Beginnings: The Morris Family and Gateway Church

40:10 Exploiting Faith: The Exorbitant Price of Nicole Crank's Mastermind Course

57:15 Lack of Understanding: JD Vance's Comments on Childcare

01:07:33 Discussion on Fear-Mongering and Persecution Complex

01:10:54 Personal Experiences and Leaving Christian Nationalism

01:12:35 Analysis of Eric Metaxas' Misinterpretation of Bonhoeffer

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303. TNE RESPONDS: Why a 3rd Party Candidate Will Never Win

Wed, 04 Sep 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode, Tim and Sharon McMahon discuss how the U.S. election system works and why third-party candidates struggle to gain traction. They explore the role of the Electoral College, winner-take-all systems, and faithless electors. They also touch on the historical context of the Electoral College and the reasons behind its creation. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the electoral process and its impact on elections. It also delves into the limitations of the Electoral College and the challenges it poses to third-party candidates.

Highlights

04:15 The Need to Understand the U.S. Election System

06:08 The Role of the Electoral College

09:25 Winner-Take-All Systems and Popularity Contests

17:06 The Historical Context of the Electoral College

23:10 Faithless Electors and Their Impact

28:34 The Disparity in Electoral Votes

32:56 The Allocation of Electoral Votes

46:02 Potential Solutions: Proportional Allocation and Ranked Choice Voting

56:43 The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact

59:32 The Need for Structural Changes

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302. TNE TALKS (PART 2): A Sobering But NEEDED Discussion with Ed Uszynski

Mon, 02 Sep 2024 08:00:00 -0000

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PART 2:

In part two (originally aired on YouTube), Tim and Ed discuss critical race theory (CRT) and its relevance to the church. Ed explains that he wrote his book, 'Untangling Critical Race Theory,' to provide a more accurate understanding of CRT and its potential benefits for Christians. They discuss the five tenets of CRT, which focus on the ongoing racial disparities and inequalities in American society. They also explore the resistance and politicization of CRT, as well as the need for Christians to engage in conversations about race and justice. In this part of the conversation, Tim and Ed discuss their views on the white evangelical structures and systems. Tim expresses his belief that these structures are deeply flawed and soaked in racist ideology, and he sees little hope for reforming them. He suggests that the church can move forward by dismantling these structures and rethinking what it means to love God and love your neighbor in community. Ed, on the other hand, acknowledges the flaws in these systems but believes in holding them accountable and working towards a better way forward. He emphasizes the importance of provoking people to see a different way of doing things and planting seeds for change.

Takeaways

Critical race theory (CRT) is a framework that examines the ongoing racial disparities and inequalities in American society.
CRT seeks to reveal and confront how dominant culture racial power works through laws, policies, and patterns to maintain a racial hierarchy.
The resistance and politicization of CRT have led to misconceptions and misunderstandings about its purpose and potential benefits.
Christians should engage in conversations about race and justice, centering the voices and experiences of marginalized communities. The white evangelical structures and systems are deeply flawed and soaked in racist ideology.
Tim believes that these structures are not salvageable and should be dismantled, while Ed believes in holding them accountable and working towards a better way forward.
Both Tim and Ed emphasize the importance of provoking people to see a different way of doing things and planting seeds for change.
They agree that the church can move forward by rethinking what it means to love God and love your neighbor in community.

Chapters

00:00 Understanding Critical Race Theory

05:32 Challenging Misconceptions

12:29 The Resistance and Politicization

26:09 Engaging in Conversations about Race and Justice

01:05:36 The Flaws of White Evangelical Structures and Systems

01:06:34 Dismantling vs. Holding Accountable: Perspectives on Reform

01:10:24 Provoking Change and Planting Seeds for a Better Way Forward

01:14:15 Rethinking Love for God and Neighbor in Community

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302. TNE TALKS (PART 1): A Sobering But NEEDED Discussion with Ed Uszynski

Mon, 02 Sep 2024 08:00:00 -0000

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PART 1:

In this conversation (originally aired on YouTube), Tim and Ed discuss their journeys of faith and the different paths that led them to their current beliefs. They explore the concept of truth and the role of evangelism in sharing the good news of Jesus. They also touch on the negative aspects of evangelicalism and the need for a more inclusive and loving approach to faith. In this part of the conversation, Tim and Ed discuss the boundaries and lines drawn in Christian beliefs and practices. They explore the concept of evangelism and the impact of purity culture. Tim shares his perspective on the importance of boundaries and rules in the Christian faith, while also acknowledging the need for reevaluation and renegotiation of these boundaries. They touch on topics such as hell, biblical worldview, and the interpretation of scripture. Tim emphasizes the themes of liberation and the expansion of God's blessing in scripture.

Takeaways

The personal journey of faith is unique for each individual and can be influenced by various factors.
The concept of truth in relation to faith is complex and can be interpreted differently by different people.
Evangelism should be approached with love and inclusivity, rather than judgment and exclusion.
There is a need for a more authentic and compassionate expression of Christianity that reflects the teachings of Jesus. Boundaries and rules in the Christian faith can provide guidance and protection, but they should also be open to reevaluation and renegotiation.
The interpretation of scripture and the concept of a biblical worldview can vary among individuals and Christian traditions.
Christian nationalism, which seeks to enforce Christian beliefs and laws on society, can be a threat to religious freedom and the well-being of marginalized groups.
Government can play a role in addressing social and economic issues
Christians should advocate for social justice and care for marginalized groups
Misconceptions and controversies surrounding Marxism and its compatibility with Christianity
The importance of loving and accepting all individuals

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

19:10 Personal Journeys of Faith

25:43 Exploring the Concept of Truth

29:16 Reimagining Evangelism

43:23 Exploring Boundaries and Rules in the Christian Faith

53:31 The Dangers of Christian Nationalism and the Erasure of Boundaries

58:13 Navigating Controversial Topics: Sexuality and Gender

01:06:23 Striving for Balance: Advocating for Justice and Respecting Individual Beliefs

01:44:36 Exploring the Sociological Aspects of Marxism

01:53:16 Advocating for Social Justice and Care for Marginalized Groups

02:04:02 The Importance of Loving and Accepting All Individuals

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301. TNE RECAPS: RFK Speaks Nothing But CONSPIRACY Lies!

Fri, 30 Aug 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this RECAPS episode, Tim, April, and Andrew discuss the link between conspiracy theories and Christian nationalism. They explore the rise of conspiracy theories in white evangelical spaces and the normalization of these theories. They also examine the connection between Christian nationalism and vaccine skepticism, highlighting the role of epistemology and group identity in shaping beliefs. The conversation delves into the challenges of engaging with conspiracy theorists and the impact of media silos. The hosts emphasize the need for critical thinking, openness to new information, and a nuanced understanding of science. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss various conspiracy theories and misinformation propagated by Christian nationalists. They highlight the prevalence of conspiratorial thinking within this group and its potential impact on political discourse.

Takeaways

There is a growing link between conspiracy theories and Christian nationalism, particularly in white evangelical spaces.
Christian nationalism's cultural elements, such as authoritarian social control and a desire for traditionalist hierarchy, make it more susceptible to conspiratorial thinking.
Christian nationalism and vaccine skepticism are strongly correlated, with believers more likely to reject vaccines and embrace conspiracy theories.
Conspiracy theories thrive in times of stress and uncertainty, providing a sense of control and someone to blame.
Science is not a dogma but a process of testing and evolving based on new evidence. Openness to new information is crucial for combating conspiracy theories. Conspiratorial thinking is prevalent within the Christian nationalist movement.
Some Christian nationalists exhibit toxic masculinity and engage in harmful rhetoric.
The intersection of Christian nationalism and conspiracy theories has implications for political discourse and public opinion.

Chapters

01:45 Diving into Conspiracy Theories and Christian Nationalism

08:14 RFK Jr.'s Conspiracy Theories and Vaccine Skepticism

14:14 The Link Between Christian Nationalism and Conspiracy Beliefs

26:20 The Appeal of Conspiracy Theories to Christian Nationalists

31:02 The Intersection of Beliefs: Mark of the Beast and Other Conspiracies

35:14 Navigating Skepticism, Solutions, and Science

38:41 Conspiratorial Thinking in the Christian Nationalist Movement

49:51 Inconsistencies in the Pro-Life Movement

56:09 The Impact of Christian Nationalism on Political Discourse

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300. TNE RECAPS: Behind the Scenes at the DNC

Wed, 28 Aug 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Tim and April discuss Tim's experience at the Democratic National Convention (DNC) and his observations of the event. Tim shares the challenges he faced in getting to the DNC, including flight cancellations and delays. He also highlights the diversity of the DNC and the presence of various voices and perspectives. However, he expresses disappointment over the lack of Palestinian representation on the stage and the emphasis on the military-industrial complex. Tim also discusses the role of faith at the DNC and the perception that faith voices are not always recognized or valued within the party. He raises concerns about the DNC's understanding of the motivations behind the MAGA movement and the missed opportunity to engage with conservative Christians who are seeking a new political home. The conversation covered various topics, including the presence of Planned Parenthood at the DNC, the need for Democrats to address abortion more effectively, the inclusivity of the New Evangelicals community, the upcoming Theology Beer Camp, the decline in abortion rates under Democratic presidents, the concern of the Democratic party becoming more moderate, the positive moments at the DNC, the gray cloud over the lack of Palestinian voices, and the presence of protesters at the event.

Takeaways

Tim faced numerous challenges in getting to the DNC, including flight cancellations and delays.
The DNC showcased diversity and included various voices and perspectives.
Tim was disappointed by the lack of Palestinian representation on the stage and the emphasis on the military-industrial complex.
The DNC may be missing an opportunity to engage with conservative Christians and understand the motivations behind the MAGA movement. Planned Parenthood was present at the DNC, but it was not sponsored by the DNC and the idea of having a Planned Parenthood bus was not a DNC initiative.
Democrats need to address abortion more effectively by providing more nuance and education about the topic, including the reasons behind abortions and the efforts to lower abortion rates through comprehensive sex education and access to birth control.
Abortion rates have declined the most under Democratic presidents, and the hardline ban on abortions does not effectively reduce the number of abortions and can lead to negative consequences such as increased maternal and infant mortality rates.
The lack of Palestinian voices at the DNC was a disappointment and highlighted the need for more inclusivity and advocacy for the Palestinian cause.

Chapters

03:22 Challenges and Delays: Tim's Journey to the DNC

12:11 Diversity and Voices at the DNC

17:23 Disappointment over Lack of Palestinian Representation

23:01 The Role of Faith at the DNC

31:01 Understanding the Motivations Behind the MAGA Movement

38:28 The Decline in Abortion Rates under Democratic Presidents

48:40 The Concern of the Democratic Party Becoming More Moderate

01:00:37 The Gray Cloud Over the Lack of Palestinian Voices

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299. TNE TALKS: IVF From a Woman's Perspective

Mon, 26 Aug 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode, Tim interviews Alexandra Hamrick, also known as Ali, who shares her personal experience with IVF and her advocacy for endometriosis. Ali discusses her journey with IVF, the challenges of living with endometriosis, and the importance of raising awareness and providing support for women facing infertility.

Takeaways

IVF and endometriosis are important topics that need more awareness and understanding
Living with endometriosis can be extremely painful and can lead to infertility
The medical system needs to improve its treatment of women and reproductive health
There is a need for better education and support in the church for women facing infertility.
IVF is a complex and multifaceted process that involves emotional, physical, and financial challenges.
Misinformation and stigma surrounding IVF, particularly within certain religious and political circles, can hinder access to and understanding of the procedure.
Advocacy and support for IVF rights are crucial in ensuring access to fertility treatments and protecting individuals and couples seeking to build their families.
Organizations like Resolve provide resources and support for individuals and couples navigating the IVF journey.
Understanding and compassion are essential in addressing the complexities of IVF and supporting those going through the process.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Overview

01:00 The Power of IVF and Endometriosis Advocacy

03:15 Understanding Endometriosis and its Impact on Fertility

08:29 The Journey of Medically Answered Prayers

13:22 The Painful Reality of Endometriosis

18:00 Challenges in the Medical System and the Church

22:08 Diagnosis and Treatment of Endometriosis

24:22 The Challenges of Infertility

25:20 Putting Dreams on Hold

26:15 The Success of IVF

29:58 The Role of Embryologists

31:49 Dispelling Misinformation about IVF

34:15 The Impact of Stigmatizing Statements

36:36 Supportive Voices in the IVF Conversation

48:37 Resources for IVF Support

Alexandra's Website | The Infertility Doula

Alexandra's Instagram | @alexandrachamrick

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TNE UPDATE: Tim's at The DNC

Fri, 23 Aug 2024 08:00:00 -0000

While Tim's away at the DNC, producer Josh Gilbert hops in to introduce himself to listeners. No RECAP episode this week as Tim is away, but stay tuned to next week's full schedule of episodes.

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298. TNE RESPONDS: Project 2025 Exposed

Wed, 21 Aug 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Project 2025 is a conservative plan to reshape the federal government under the next presidential administration. It was created by the conservative think tank, The Heritage Foundation, and has deep connections to the Trump administration. The playbook is 900 pages long and covers a wide range of topics, including abortion, LGBTQ+ rights, gender equality, and diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives. The plan aims to dismantle the administrative state, ban abortion nationwide, restrict access to birth control, promote heterosexual marriage, and erase LGBTQ+ people from public life. The creators of Project 2025 are Kevin Roberts, the president of The Heritage Foundation, and Russ Vaught, the former head of the Office of Management and Budget in the Trump White House.

Takeaways

Project 2025 is a comprehensive conservative plan to reshape the federal government under the next presidential administration.
The plan covers a wide range of topics, including abortion, LGBTQ+ rights, gender equality, and DEI initiatives.
Project 2025 aims to dismantle the administrative state, ban abortion nationwide, restrict access to birth control, promote heterosexual marriage, and erase LGBTQ+ people from public life.
It seeks to eliminate protections for career government employees and roll back regulations in areas such as education, the environment, and immigration.
Project 2025 also aims to ban pornography and restrict the rights of LGBTQ+ individuals.

Chapters

03:38 The Insanity of Project 2025

09:19 The Battle Over Reproductive Rights

14:27 Restricting Access to Birth Control

23:50 Erasing LGBTQ+ People

31:02 The Role of The Heritage Foundation and Trumpism

34:19 Centralizing Power in the Office of the President

37:43 Neglecting the Poor and Marginalized

41:54 Environmental Rollbacks

51:48 Immigration Enforcement

59:44 The Moral Crusade Against Pornography

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297. TNE TALKS: “Nice Churchy Patriarchy”

Mon, 19 Aug 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

Tim and Liz Cooledge Jenkins discuss her book, Nice Churchy Patriarchy: Reclaiming Women's Humanity from Evangelicalism, and her journey unpacking the toxic aspects of conservative evangelicalism. She explores the concept of patriarchy and how it manifests in imbalanced power dynamics and restricts women's agency.

Takeaways

Patriarchy is any structure or system that involves imbalanced power between genders, particularly men and women.
Patriarchy restricts women's agency and discourages them from embracing their full humanity.
The concept of patriarchy is often disguised as complementarianism in conservative evangelical contexts.
The biblical mandates used to justify patriarchal norms are often based on American cultural norms rather than biblical principles.
Mainline churches, despite their traditional appearance, often have more progressive and inclusive theology compared to white evangelical churches.
Patriarchy is deeply ingrained in both the church and broader society, but it is not impossible to dismantle.
Valuing characteristics traditionally associated with femininity, such as empathy and collaboration, is essential for building more inclusive and equitable spaces.
Honest conversations, diverse perspectives, and a reevaluation of traditional interpretations of scripture are necessary for challenging and changing patriarchal systems.
The intersection of patriarchy and the church requires a critical examination of leadership structures and a commitment to empowering women and other marginalized groups.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

03:01 Unpacking the Toxicity of Conservative Evangelicalism

10:02 Challenging Patriarchy and Reclaiming Women's Humanity

14:35 Examining Biblical Interpretations and Cultural Norms

24:21 Merging Contemporary Vibes with Deep Theology

26:26 Effective Ways to Fight the Patriarchy

28:12 Initiating Conversations with Women in the Congregation

29:33 The Need for Women in Leadership

31:11 Reflecting the Diversity of the Body of Christ

33:27 Challenging Traditional Leadership Models

39:19 Perceptions of Church Diversity

41:21 Sharing Power and Embracing Feminine Characteristics

46:45 The Sin of Empathy

48:19 Conclusion

Liz's Website | lizcooledgejenkins.com

Liz on Instagram | @lizcoolj

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296. TNE RECAPS: Why Christians Are FLOCKING to Vote for Harris-Walz

Fri, 16 Aug 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, Tim and April discuss various topics including Donald Trump's conversation with Elon Musk, the leaked Project 2025 training videos, and the conservative Christian view on climate change. They also touch on the anti-science sentiment within conservative Christianity and the impact it has on shaping policies and beliefs. The hosts provide commentary and humor throughout the episode. In this part of the conversation, Tim and April discuss the weirdness and oddity of certain aspects of right-wing politics, particularly within the evangelical community. They highlight the contradiction between the claim of being pro-family and pro-American while engaging in bizarre and extreme behavior. They mention the Christians for Harris and Evangelicals for Harris groups as examples of this mobilization. They emphasize the importance of thinking about political engagement in a wise and Jesus-centered way, rather than blindly aligning with a particular party. In this final part of the conversation, Tim and April discuss the intolerance and narrow-mindedness often found within evangelical circles.

Takeaways

Donald Trump's conversation with Elon Musk highlights the disconnect between the billionaire class and the average person, despite attempts to portray themselves as 'men of the people'.
The leaked Project 2025 training videos reveal the anti-science and conspiracy-driven mindset within conservative circles, particularly regarding climate change and population control.
The anti-intellectualism and dogmatic beliefs within conservative Christianity contribute to the rejection of scientific evidence and hinder progress in addressing climate change.
It is important to differentiate between conservative evangelical Christians who hold a literal interpretation of the Bible and those who accept scientific evidence and advocate for responsible environmental stewardship.
There is a growing mobilization of Christians who are rejecting the Trump-MAGA movement and advocating for a different approach to political discourse.
It is important to think about political engagement in a wise and Jesus-centered way, rather than blindly aligning with a particular party.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Recap

05:59 Tim's Excitement and Preparations for an Event

09:24 Discussion on Donald Trump's Conversation with Elon Musk

16:16 Exploring the Anti-Science Mindset of Project 2025

20:06 The Impact of Anti-Intellectualism in Conservative Christianity

26:38 Differentiating Between Literalist and Progressive Evangelical Christians

32:30 The Weirdness and Oddity of Right-Wing Politics

49:28 Hope for a Different Vision in Politics

01:11:06 The Misconception of Legislation and Religious Freedom

01:19:33 The Inclusion of Breakdancing in the Olympics

01:35:13 Using Billy Graham's Image in a Political Ad: Misleading or Disrespectful?

Sharon Mchamon's article on Project 2025

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295. TNE RESPONDS: Where Does Our Allegiance Lie?

Wed, 14 Aug 2024 07:16:00 -0000

In this episode, Tim discusses updates on The New Evangelicals (TNE) and shares his thoughts on how Christians should approach the Harris-Waltz candidacy. He talks about Project Amplify, a TNE initiative to counter right-wing media narratives, and the growth of the organization. Tim explores the concept of Christian nationalism and emphasizes the importance of advocating for the common good. He encourages Christians to think critically about their political engagement and to prioritize the teachings of Jesus. Tim concludes by expressing hope for Christians to embrace a more inclusive and nuanced approach to politics.

Takeaways

The New Evangelicals (TNE) is growing and working on initiatives like Project Amplify to counter right-wing media narratives and amplify diverse Christian voices.
Christian nationalism seeks to privilege conservative Christian beliefs and control narratives, while advocating for the common good is not inherently Christian nationalist.
Christians should prioritize the teachings of Jesus and advocate for policies that promote the common good and the flourishing of all people.
Political engagement should involve holding politicians accountable and working towards a more equitable society, while recognizing the limitations of politicians and the need for ongoing work.
Christians should approach politics with a posture of invitation, inviting others to think critically and embrace a more inclusive and nuanced approach to political engagement.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Updates on TNE

14:33 Understanding Christian Nationalism and the Common Good

15:57 Prioritizing the Teachings of Jesus in Political Engagement

19:43 Holding Politicians Accountable and Working for Equity

26:49 Inviting Others to Embrace a Nuanced Approach to Politics

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294. TNE TALKS: Introducing the Ministers of Propaganda

Mon, 12 Aug 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode, Tim sits down with Scott M. Coley, author of the book, Ministers of Propaganda, and they discuss the concept of legitimizing narratives that are used to justify social arrangements that benefit white evangelicals.

Takeaways

Legitimizing narratives are stories that justify social arrangements and hierarchies.
White evangelicals have used the Bible as a source of legitimizing narratives to justify social arrangements that benefit them.
The curse of Ham is an example of a legitimizing narrative used to justify race-based chattel slavery and racial segregation.
The hermeneutics of legitimization is an approach to biblical interpretation that consistently produces readings of the text that justify the reader's preferred social arrangements.
Understanding and challenging these narratives is important for promoting justice and equality. Legitimizing narratives are used to justify and perpetuate harmful ideologies.
The defense of slavery and gender hierarchy are examples of self-defeating narratives that appropriate the very ideals they undermine.
There is a tension between conservative ideals of family values and fiscal policies.
Propaganda plays a significant role in shaping public opinion and can be used to manipulate and control narratives.
It is important to critically examine the narratives we encounter and strive for a more just and inclusive approach to interpreting scripture and engaging in politics.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Announcement

04:07 Introduction to Scott M. Coley and His Book 'Ministers of Propaganda'

10:21 How White Evangelicals Justify Social Arrangements

26:43 The Curse of Ham: A Historical Example of a Legitimizing Narrative

29:38 The Hermeneutics of Legitimization

31:05 Challenging Legitimizing Narratives

31:35 Unpacking Legitimizing Narratives and Harmful Ideologies

39:35 The Tension Between Conservative Family Values and Fiscal Policies

55:22 The Role of Propaganda in Shaping Public Opinion

01:00:43 The Need for Critical Examination of Narratives

01:02:11 Striving for a Just and Inclusive Approach to Scripture and Politics

Scott's Book | Ministers of Propaganda: Truth, Power, and the Ideology of the Religious Right

Scott's Instagram | @scott_m_coley

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293. TNE RECAPS: Why Tim Walz Speech Was SO NEEDED

Fri, 09 Aug 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode, Tim and April discuss the new ad-free option for the podcast on Apple Podcasts. They also talk about their plans to improve the show's intro and recap their recent experiences, including Tim's road trip and April's illness. They then dive into the main topic of the episode, which is the popularity of Tim Walz, the governor of Minnesota. They discuss his policies, his likability, and his ability to connect with people. They also touch on the weirdness of the Trump era and the importance of calling out falsehoods and strange behavior. Tim discusses the importance of systemic change and the role of government in providing services to those in need. He then analyzes Tim Walz's acceptance speech for the vice president slot on the Harris ticket, highlighting the contrast between the Harris-Walz ticket and the Trump administration. Tim also addresses the hypocrisy of the pro-life movement and criticizes JD Vance's association with Project 2025. He concludes by emphasizing the need to hold the Trump administration accountable for their connections to Project 2025. In this final part of the conversation, Tim and April discuss various humorous moments and share their thoughts on the current political landscape.

Takeaways

The podcast is now available ad-free on Apple Podcasts for a monthly or yearly subscription fee.
Tim and April plan to improve the show's intro to make it more professional and consistent.
Tim Walz, the governor of Minnesota, is gaining popularity due to his likability and progressive policies.
A healthy government plays a crucial role in providing services to those who fall through the cracks.
Tim Walz's acceptance speech highlights the contrast between the Harris-Walz ticket and the Trump administration.
The pro-life movement often fails to support legislation that actually benefits children and families.
JD Vance's association with Project 2025 raises concerns about the Trump administration's agenda. Humor can be a powerful tool in resisting oppressive systems and finding joy amidst chaos.

Chapters

00:00 New Ad-Free Option on Apple Podcasts

13:54 The Popularity of Tim Walz

19:15 The Weirdness of the Trump Era

28:52 Calling Out Falsehoods and Strange Behavior

38:07 Analyzing Tim Walz's Acceptance Speech

44:36 The Hypocrisy of the Pro-Life Movement

01:13:46 The Power of Humor and Joy

01:19:41 Celebrating Positive Moments from the Olympics

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292. TNE RESPONDS: Greg Laurie is WRONG About the Olympics

Wed, 07 Aug 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode, Tim responds to a video of Greg Laurie discussing the controversy surrounding the opening ceremony of the Olympics and the boxer Aman Khalif. Tim critiques Laurie's lack of fact-checking and the hypocrisy within evangelical circles. He addresses the misconceptions about the opening ceremony, the false claims about Aman Khalif, and the narrative of persecution and religious privilege perpetuated by Laurie. Tim highlights the need for critical thinking and accurate information in discussions about faith and culture.

Takeaways

Lack of fact-checking and misinformation is prevalent in evangelical circles, as demonstrated by Greg Laurie's video.
The controversy surrounding the opening ceremony of the Olympics and Aman Khalif is based on misconceptions and false claims.
The narrative of persecution and religious privilege perpetuated by Laurie and other evangelicals is hypocritical and lacks critical thinking.
It is important to critically evaluate information and seek accurate facts when discussing faith and culture.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Overview

02:00 The Lack of Fact-Checking in Evangelical Circles

06:45 Debunking Misconceptions about the Olympics and Aman Khalif

09:38 The Hypocrisy of Persecution and Religious Privilege

20:43 The Importance of Critical Thinking in Faith and Culture

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291. TNE TALKS: "I Lived Through Project 2025" with Tia Levings

Mon, 05 Aug 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

Tia Levins shares her experience growing up in Christian patriarchy and her journey to escape it. She discusses the influence of the quiver full movement and the pressure to have as many children as possible. Tia explains how she was mentored by women in the church who promoted quiver full ideals and the complementarian lifestyle. She also highlights the lack of counter information and the normalization of abuse within this culture. Tia's story serves as a warning about the dangers of extreme patriarchy and the need to resist it. Tia shares her experience of being in a high-control, patriarchal Christian environment and her journey to escape it. She discusses the challenges of living with a husband who had erratic behavior and the pressure to keep her newborn quiet. Tia explains how she internalized the violence and believed it was her fault. She also talks about the influence of the family-integrated church movement and the shift towards grooming young sons to become future leaders. Tia reveals the extreme practices she endured, including wife discipline, and the process of deconstruction and healing she went through after escaping. She emphasizes the importance of naming experiences and staying curious in spirituality.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

13:28 Transition to Extreme Patriarchy

23:49 Lack of Counter Information and Normalization of Abuse

27:15 The Influence of the Family-Integrated Church Movement

33:09 Extreme Practices: Wife Discipline

41:23 Escaping and the Process of Deconstruction

44:21 Reclaiming Spirituality on One's Own Terms

Tia's Book | A Well-Trained Wife: My Escape from Christian Patriarchy

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290. TNE RECAPS: Kamala Harris is Black, Olympics 2024, & Project 2025 Explained

Fri, 02 Aug 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, Tim and April discuss various topics, including the controversy surrounding the Olympic opening ceremony, Trump's remarks at the Believers Summit, and their experience visiting the Ark Encounter. They express frustration with the outrage over trivial matters and the lack of attention given to more important issues. They also highlight the need for Christians to represent Jesus well and focus on issues that truly matter. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss various topics, including the controversy surrounding the Believer's Summit, the problematic views of Doug Wilson, Trump's appearance at the National Association of Black Journalists convention, and the implications of Project 2025. They also touch on the absurd interpretations of the Olympic opening ceremony and announce their attendance at Theology Beer Camp.

Takeaways

The outrage over trivial matters distracts from more important issues that require attention.
The focus on cultural controversies often stems from a weak and narcissistic form of evangelicalism.
Jesus does not need defending; he needs people to represent him well.
The interpretation of Trump's remarks at the Believers Summit can vary, but it is concerning to hear him suggest that Christians won't have to vote again.
The outrage over the Olympic opening ceremony reflects a fear and discomfort with people living as their authentic selves.
There is a need to prioritize issues such as genocide, poverty, hate, and greed over trivial controversies. The Believer's Summit sparked controversy due to the presence of controversial figures like Doug Wilson, whose views on sex and slavery are highly problematic.
Trump's appearance at the National Association of Black Journalists convention was met with criticism, as he evaded direct questions and made insensitive remarks.
Project 2025, a conservative playbook, continues to be a cause for concern, despite the director stepping down amid backlash from Trump.
Tim and April will be attending Theology Beer Camp, an event that brings together theologians, podcasters, and individuals seeking a better way forward in their faith.

Chapters

03:06 Traveling and the Ark Encounter

09:07 The Olympic Controversy

14:21 The Weakness of Evangelicalism

17:39 Interpreting Trump's Remarks

24:17 The Power of Words and Prioritizing Issues

40:02 Controversy Surrounding the Believer's Summit

41:25 Problematic Views of Doug Wilson

48:38 Trump's Appearance at the National Association of Black Journalists Convention

52:53 Implications of Project 2025

01:14:25 Absurd Interpretations of the Olympic Opening Ceremony

01:18:13 Announcement: Attendance at Theology Beer Camp

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289. TNE RESPONDS: Exposing the Racism of Christian Nationalism

Wed, 31 Jul 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode, Tim and Dr. Kevin Carnahan respond to the ideas presented by Stephen Wolf, who advocates for Christian nationalism and promotes white supremacy. They discuss the dangerous ideologies and myths perpetuated by Wolf and his supporters, highlighting the need for critical thinking and awareness of the underlying agendas. The conversation covers topics such as the concept of a new Christendom, the myth of an immigrant nation, the oppression of white people, and the implications of affirmative action. Tim and Dr. Carnahan dismantle these ideas and emphasize the importance of understanding history and working towards a more inclusive and just society. In this part of the conversation, the principal themes revolve around critical race theory, multiculturalism, corruption, and immigration. The speakers discuss how critical race theory helps explain the persistence of systemic racism and the covert ways in which supremacist systems are maintained. They also address the misconception that policies benefiting non-whites are inherently bad for whites, highlighting the importance of understanding historical context. The conversation delves into the impact of multiculturalism on social trust and the common good, with differing perspectives on its effects. The speakers also touch on corruption, nepotism, and the role of immigration in shaping societal institutions. In this part of the conversation, Tim and Kevin discuss the arguments made by Stephen Wolfe in his speech.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Overview

13:10 Stephen Wolf and New Christendom Press

33:00 White People as Their Own In-Group's Out-Group

41:20 Effects of Historical Injustices and Affirmative Action

56:36 Challenging Misconceptions about Policies Benefiting Non-Whites

01:09:49 Examining Corruption and Nepotism

01:16:53 The Impact of Immigration on Societal Institutions

01:30:36 The Contradictions in Wolfe's Use of Bible Verses

02:07:11 The Incoherence of Stephen Wolfe's Arguments

02:35:44 Resisting and Offering a Better Alternative

Kevin on TikTok

Kevin's Website

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288. TNE TALKS: I Can Fix This (And Other Lies I Told Myself) with Kristina Kuzmic

Mon, 29 Jul 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

Kristina Kuzmich sits down with Tim to share her journey from trauma and divorce to viral success and the struggles of parenting a child with mental health issues. She discusses her faith, the impact of her upbringing, and the challenges she faced in finding her purpose and identity.

Takeaways

Kristina's journey from trauma and divorce to viral success and the struggles of parenting a child with mental health issues.
The impact of Kristina's faith and upbringing on her identity and the challenges she faced in finding her purpose.
Resilience, vulnerability, and the pursuit of hope in the face of adversity. The importance of self-compassion and healing in the face of parenting a child with mental health struggles.
The impact of family dynamics and the need for validation and support in navigating the challenges of mental health.
The intersection of faith and mental health, addressing the stigma and the importance of self-discovery and healing.
The significance of providing tools and coping skills to children struggling with mental health, and the role of self-compassion in parenting.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Viral Success

03:17 Discovering Comedy as a Coping Mechanism

05:48 Influence of Pentecostal Faith and Church Community

08:01 Questioning Faith and Beliefs

11:43 Impact of Faith Community on Personal Struggles

14:04 Finding Purpose Through Volunteering

16:17 Parenting and Mental Health Struggles

23:57 Navigating Parenting and Mental Health Challenges

26:28 The Intersection of Faith and Mental Health

32:02 Support and Validation in Family Dynamics

44:49 Self-Compassion and Healing in Parenting

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287. TNE RECAPS: The GOP Hates Kamala Harris

Fri, 26 Jul 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode, Tim and April recap the recent RNC and discuss the speeches given by Hulk Hogan, Franklin Graham, and Kid Rock. They analyze the rhetoric used and the narratives being reinforced, particularly in the context of Christian nationalism. They also touch on the lack of policy discussion during the RNC and the focus on personality rather than platform. The conversation highlights the importance of questioning and challenging these narratives and ideologies. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the racist and sexist attacks against Vice President Kamala Harris and the implications of Christian nationalism. They also explore the potential impact of Harris as the Democratic nominee and the energized response from the Democratic base. The conversation highlights the deep-rooted racism and misogyny within certain political circles and the need for a more inclusive and progressive approach to politics.

Takeaways

The RNC focused on personality rather than platform, with speeches by Hulk Hogan, Franklin Graham, and Kid Rock reinforcing narratives of Christian nationalism.
The lack of policy discussion during the RNC raises questions about the direction and priorities of the Republican Party.
The rhetoric used by Franklin Graham and others highlights the comfort with authoritarian social control and the desire for a strong leader in Christian nationalist circles.
Questioning and challenging these narratives and ideologies is crucial in promoting a more inclusive and equitable society. Racist and sexist attacks against Vice President Kamala Harris highlight the deep-rooted racism and misogyny within certain political circles.
The energized response from the Democratic base to Harris as the Democratic nominee could have a significant impact on the upcoming election.
The attacks on Harris and the focus on her personal life and identity reflect the intersection of racism, sexism, and Christian nationalism.
The Democratic National Convention and the choice of Harris's running mate will be important factors in shaping the campaign moving forward.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Recap

11:18 The RNC: Personality Over Platform

17:35 The Lack of Policy Discussion at the RNC

24:14 The Rhetoric of Christian Nationalism

38:57 Questioning and Challenging Narratives and Ideologies

43:30 Uncovering the Deep-Rooted Prejudices

52:16 The Impact of Kamala Harris as the Democratic Nominee

56:57 The Intersection of Racism, Sexism, and Christian Nationalism

01:08:18 Shaping the Campaign: The Democratic National Convention and the Choice of Harris's Running Mate

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286. TNE RESPONDS: No, the Bible is not inerrant...

Wed, 24 Jul 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode, Tim responds to a video from an Instagram channel called Leading Second that asserts the belief that if you don't believe the Bible is true, you have no place in leadership. Tim unpacks the loaded statement and explores the concept of a biblical worldview. He challenges the idea of the Bible being infallible and examines the flawed logic behind it. Tim also discusses the different portrayals of God in the Bible and the need for interpretation and contextual understanding.

Takeaways

The belief that if you don't believe the Bible is true, you have no place in leadership is a loaded statement that lacks nuance and ignores different interpretations of the Bible.
A biblical worldview is often defined by specific verses that align with conservative political views, rather than a comprehensive understanding of the entire Bible.
The idea of the Bible being infallible is based on circular reasoning and ignores the historical context and authorship of the texts.
The Bible does not present a univocal portrayal of God, and different passages can contradict each other. Interpretation and contextual understanding are necessary.
Examining the evidence and contradictions in the Bible can lead to a more nuanced and intellectually honest understanding of its teachings.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Overview

04:37 Challenging the Notion of Bible Truth and Leadership

11:52 The Nuances of a Biblical Worldview

18:12 The Flawed Logic of Biblical Infallibility

21:04 Interpreting the Portrayals of God in the Bible

24:53 The Importance of Contextual Understanding in Bible Interpretation

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285. TNE TALKS: Why IVF is pro life

Mon, 22 Jul 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode, Tim interviews Dr. Jennifer Bird and Dr. Michael West to discuss the topic of in vitro fertilization (IVF). They address the misconceptions and propaganda surrounding IVF, particularly in right-wing fundamentalist spaces.

Takeaways

Life does not begin at conception but rather at around 14 days when individuation occurs.
Understanding the biological facts is crucial in debunking the myth that life begins at conception.
IVF is a pro-life procedure that helps individuals and couples who are unable to conceive have children.
Legislation that restricts or bans IVF infringes on reproductive freedom and ignores scientific and ethical considerations. The theological and ethical aspects of reproductive rights, including abortion and IVF, are complex and require thoughtful consideration.
Biblical perspectives on these topics vary, and it is important to engage in dialogue and critical examination of the texts.
Women's autonomy and well-being should be central to discussions on reproductive health and technology.
Education and informed decision-making are crucial in navigating the complexities of reproductive rights.
The rise of Christian nationalism poses challenges to these discussions and requires a reevaluation of religious and ethical values.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction

03:42 The Importance of Understanding IVF

11:18 When Does Life Begin?

18:12 Exploring IVF: Procedure and Purpose

25:12 The Reality of Early Embryo Death

30:45 The Biological Facts of IVF

35:29 The Pro-Life Nature of IVF

36:18 Misinformation and Reproductive Freedom

37:43 Conclusion

38:39 Exploring the Bible's Stance on Abortion

41:27 Unpacking the Concept of the Image of God

44:24 The Mythical Nature of Biblical Descriptions

48:08 Discrepancies in Defining Viability

51:58 Considering Women's Autonomy in Reproductive Health

Dr. Jennifer Bird's Website:

https://www.jennifergracebird.com/

Dr. Michael D. West's World Stem Cell Summit Page:

https://worldstemcellsummit.com/michael-west/

Embryo Statment:

https://www.wildolivebibleandculture.org/ivf

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284. TNE RECAPS: The Republican National Convention is a DISASTER

Fri, 19 Jul 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode, Tim and April discuss the aftermath of the assassination attempt on former President Trump and the Republican National Convention (RNC). They address the use of profanity, the shock and numbness they felt, and the conspiracy theories surrounding the event. They also analyze the rhetoric used by Republicans during the RNC, including claims that Democrats want to take away people's homes and cars and limit their dreams. They highlight the importance of accountability and avoiding dehumanization in political discourse. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the reactions and rhetoric surrounding the recent assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump. They highlight the hypocrisy and lack of empathy displayed by some individuals, as well as the dangerous beliefs held by Christian nationalists. The conversation also touches on the rift between Trump and Christian nationalists, the role of women in the RNC, and the misuse of biblical passages to support political agendas. Despite the challenges, Tim and April encourage listeners to stay engaged, find joy, and continue working towards a more inclusive society.

Takeaways

The assassination attempt on former President Trump and the subsequent conspiracy theories have sparked intense discussions and debates.
The Republican National Convention (RNC) featured rhetoric that portrayed Democrats as a threat to democracy and claimed that they want to limit people's dreams and take away their homes and cars.
It is important to hold politicians accountable for their words and actions, while also avoiding dehumanization and promoting unity.
Political discourse should focus on substance and avoid personal attacks or harmful language.
Conspiracy theories and misinformation can fuel division and hinder productive conversations. The reactions and rhetoric surrounding the assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump highlight the hypocrisy and lack of empathy displayed by some individuals.
Biblical passages are often misused to support political agendas, such as claiming that Trump is God's chosen one.
Despite the challenges, it is important to stay engaged, find joy, and continue working towards a more inclusive society.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction

01:10 The Aftermath of the Assassination Attempt on Trump

26:51 Analyzing the Rhetoric of the Republican National Convention

45:22 Accountability and Unity in Political Discourse

46:14 Hypocrisy and Lack of Empathy

53:08 The Dangerous Beliefs of Christian Nationalists

01:10:44 Misuse of Biblical Passages

01:19:12 Intolerance Towards Women in the RNC

01:25:08 The Rift Between Trump and Christian Nationalists

01:31:47 Staying Engaged and Finding Joy

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283. TNE RESPONDS: Donald Trump Almost Assassinated - How are Christians to Respond? (NOT LIKE THIS)

Wed, 17 Jul 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode, Tim responds to the assassination attempt on former President Trump and explores the implications and reactions surrounding the event. He discusses the need for non-violence and the value of non-dehumanization, condemning the violence while also addressing the dangers of conspiratorial thinking and extreme rhetoric. Tim highlights the gun violence problem in America and calls for gun reform. He also critiques theological takes that glorify or justify the assassination attempt and examines the threat of Trumpism and Christian nationalism to democracy. Tim emphasizes the importance of promoting human flourishing and denounces dehumanization in all its forms.

Takeaways

Violence is deplorable and only breeds more violence. Non-violence and non-dehumanization are core values that should be upheld.
America has a gun violence problem and needs serious gun reform to address it.
Extreme rhetoric and conspiratorial thinking can be dangerous and contribute to a divisive and polarized society.
Trumpism and Christian nationalism pose a threat to democracy and the well-being of marginalized communities.
Promoting human flourishing and denouncing dehumanization are essential for a more just and inclusive society.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage

05:28 Condemning Violence and Upholding Non-Violence

10:12 Addressing the Gun Violence Problem in America

18:13 Critiquing Theological Takes on the Assassination Attempt

23:20 The Threat of Trumpism and Christian Nationalism to Democracy

36:57 Promoting Human Flourishing and Denouncing Dehumanization

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TNE PAUSE: I Postponed this Episode

Mon, 15 Jul 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode, Tim provides an update on recent events and shares some personal updates. He discusses the violence that occurred at a rally and condemns it, emphasizing the importance of nonviolence and love for all. Tim gives a personal update that will affect the future of TNE

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282. TNE RECAPS: Trump is calling the shots for project 2025 AND the GOP agenda

Fri, 12 Jul 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode, Tim and April discuss various topics, including viral videos, vacation experiences, Airbnb camera issues, and their Fourth of July celebrations. They also touch on the recent controversies surrounding Robert Morris and the GOP's updated policy platform. Additionally, they provide an overview of Project 2025, a conservative plan for the future, and highlight the concerning statements made by Kevin Roberts, the president of the Heritage Foundation. The conversation explores the GOP party platform and its alignment with Project Amplify. The platform includes statements on immigration, border security, energy production, military strength, election security, and social issues. Notably, the platform does not mention abortion or gay marriage, causing tension within the right-wing Christian nationalist community. The conversation also highlights the use of dog whistles and racist rhetoric in the platform's language. The hosts debunk claims about crime rates, city safety, and critical race theory. They emphasize the importance of accurate historical education and the need for comprehensive immigration reform. In this conversation, Tim and April review the GOP's policy platform and discuss the principal themes that emerge. They highlight key points such as immigration, crypto and AI, education, religious liberty, and abortion.

Project 25 PDF:

https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf

Takeaways

The power of viral videos and their impact on popular culture
The importance of privacy and security when using services like Airbnb
The need for critical thinking and discernment when consuming media
The influence of religious beliefs on political ideologies
The potential consequences of consolidating power and eroding checks and balances The GOP party platform includes statements on immigration, border security, energy production, military strength, election security, and social issues.
The platform does not mention abortion or gay marriage, causing tension within the right-wing Christian nationalist community.
The platform uses dog whistles and racist rhetoric, particularly in its language about immigration and crime.
Claims about crime rates, city safety, and critical race theory are debunked.
Accurate historical education and comprehensive immigration reform are highlighted as important issues. The GOP's policy platform includes controversial stances on immigration, crypto, AI, education, religious liberty, and abortion.

Chapters

02:23 Vacation Stories and Airbnb Camera Issues

13:45 Controversies Surrounding Robert Morris

30:27 The Concerning Statements of Kevin Roberts

45:28 Tension within the Right-Wing Christian Nationalist Community

01:09:42 The Importance of Accurate Historical Education and Comprehensive Immigration Reform

01:21:13 Crypto and AI in the GOP Platform

01:28:45 Religious Liberty and the Fight Against Anti-Christian Bias

01:43:03 GOP's Stance on Abortion and Support for IVF

01:56:11 Conclusion and Call to Action

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281. TNE RESPONDS: John MacArthur Pretends He's a Mental Health Expert and Fails MISERABLY

Wed, 10 Jul 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Tim and Dr. Laura Anderson respond to a video by Allie Stuckey and John MacArthur on mental health. They discuss the topics of medication, the brain and mind connection, and the role of therapy in treating mental health issues. They also address the misconception that medication cannot fix the mind and the importance of a holistic approach to mental health. The conversation highlights the need for accurate information and research in discussions on mental health. In this conversation, Tim and Dr. Laura Anderson discuss John MacArthur's views on mental health and the role of spirituality in addressing mental health issues. They critique MacArthur's claims that chemical imbalances in the brain are a lie and that mental health problems can be solved by turning to Christ instead of medication. Dr. Anderson explains the current understanding of trauma and the importance of a holistic approach to mental health. They also discuss the harmful effects of fundamentalist beliefs and the need for a more compassionate and evidence-based approach to mental health.

Takeaways

The brain and mind are separate but inseparable, and they work together in mental health.
Medication can be an effective tool in treating mental health issues, but it should be part of a holistic approach that includes therapy, lifestyle changes, and coping skills.
There is a need for accurate information and research in discussions on mental health.
The conversation highlights the importance of addressing mental health issues with compassion and understanding. John MacArthur's claim that chemical imbalances in the brain are a lie is not supported by current research.
Mental health issues are complex and can be influenced by a variety of factors, including genetics, environment, and traumatic experiences.
A holistic approach to mental health, including therapy, medication, and support systems, is often necessary for effective treatment.
Fundamentalist beliefs can be harmful and may contribute to stigma and shame surrounding mental health issues.
A compassionate and evidence-based approach to mental health is essential for supporting individuals in their journey towards healing and well-being.

Chapters

01:03 Background and Credentials

03:20 Taking a Holistic Approach to Mental Health

08:25 The Problematic Views of John MacArthur and Allie Stuckey

10:17 The Brain and Mind Connection

18:06 The Myth of Mental Health

20:27 The Role of Medication in Mental Health

30:18 Debunking the Myth of Chemical Imbalances

44:28 Understanding Trauma and its Effects

56:00 Embracing a Non-Resistant Approach to Mental Health

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280. TNE TALKS: Islamic Teachings and Contemporary Issues with Qasim Rashid

Mon, 08 Jul 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

Today’s guest, Qasim Rashid, explores with Tim the impact of 9/11 on the Muslim community, the misrepresentation of Islam in the media, the role of human rights lawyers, the current situation of immigration in America, the impact of climate change on immigration, and the intersection of faith and social justice.

Takeaways

Qasim Rashid's journey from Pakistan to the US and his work as a human rights lawyer
The impact of 9/11 on the Muslim community and the misrepresentation of Islam in the media
The role of human rights lawyers in advocating for survivors of domestic and sexual violence, religious freedom, and civil rights
The current situation of immigration in America and the impact of climate change on immigration
The intersection of faith and social justice, and the ethical considerations driven by faith
The influence of white supremacy and the political landscape in the context of social justice and advocacy
The life of Prophet Muhammad serves as an example of how to apply faith to contemporary challenges and lead by example.
Worship is for self-improvement, while service to humanity is an obligation and responsibility for which individuals will be held accountable.

Chapters

00:00 Journey of a Human Rights Lawyer

07:15 Impact of 9/11 and Media Misrepresentation

10:09 Advocacy and Intersection of Faith

22:27 Ethical Considerations and Political Landscape

59:16 Leading with Compassion and Justice

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279.TNE RECAPS: Everyone Has Lost Their Minds...Especially Candace Owens

Fri, 05 Jul 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode, Tim and April discuss various topics, including their personal experiences, popular TV shows, the 4th of July, and the rise of Christian nationalism. They react to a trailer for the movie 'God's Not Dead 5' and highlight the propaganda and misinformation present in the film. They also touch on the dangers of Christian nationalism and its impact on democracy. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the dangers of Christian nationalism and the conflation of allegiance to Jesus and allegiance to empire. They highlight the cognitive dissonance and mental gymnastics that many Christian nationalists engage in to maintain their beliefs. They also address the issue of authoritarianism and the false equivalence between progressive and conservative agendas. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the need for critical thinking and the importance of calling out propaganda and misinformation.

Takeaways

The conversation covers a range of topics, from personal experiences to popular TV shows and the 4th of July.
The hosts discuss the rise of Christian nationalism and its dangers to democracy.
They react to the trailer for 'God's Not Dead 5' and highlight the propaganda and misinformation present in the film.
The hosts emphasize the importance of critical thinking and questioning beliefs, rather than blindly accepting dogma. Christian nationalism often involves a conflation of allegiance to Jesus and allegiance to empire, leading to a distorted view of faith and politics.
Many Christian nationalists engage in cognitive dissonance and mental gymnastics to maintain their beliefs, often denying or ignoring the harmful aspects of their ideology.
Authoritarianism is not exclusive to any political ideology, but it is important to recognize the power dynamics and propaganda tactics used by different groups.
Critical thinking and the ability to recognize and challenge propaganda and misinformation are crucial in navigating political and religious discourse.
It is important to call out and challenge harmful beliefs and actions, even within one's own religious or political community.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Recap

16:29 Reacting to Personal Experiences and Popular TV Shows

36:09 Reacting to the 'God's Not Dead 5' Trailer

40:03 Promoting Critical Thinking and Questioning Beliefs

44:32 Introduction and Personal Experiences

51:23 The Dangers of Christian Nationalism

58:01 The Conflation of Allegiance to Jesus and Allegiance to Empire

01:09:19 Addressing Authoritarianism and False Equivalence

01:14:05 The Importance of Critical Thinking and Challenging Propaganda

01:25:24 Calling Out Harmful Beliefs and Actions

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278. TNE RESPONDS: Democracy is in Deep SH*T

Wed, 03 Jul 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode, Tim discusses the pressing issues surrounding the 2024 election and the rise of Christian nationalism. He highlights the concerns about Joe Biden's performance in the first presidential debate and the implications for American democracy. Tim also delves into the dangers of Project 2025 and the efforts to erode democracy and impose Christian nationalist values. He emphasizes the need for awareness, activism, and engagement to counter these threats.

Takeaways

The first presidential debate raised concerns about Joe Biden's ability to effectively communicate and lead, which could impact the perception of undecided voters.
Project 2025, a conservative initiative, aims to flood the government with MAGA appointees and enact a Christian nationalist agenda, eroding democracy and civil rights.
The Supreme Court ruling that a sitting president is immune from criminal prosecution for official acts has significant implications for the balance of power and the potential abuse of authority.
The rise of Christian nationalism poses a threat to marginalized communities and civil liberties, and it is crucial to raise awareness, engage in activism, and vote to protect democracy and human rights.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Overview

02:27 The Concerns Surrounding Joe Biden's Performance

09:23 The Dangers of Project 2025

15:11 The Implications of the Supreme Court Ruling

29:24 The Need for Awareness and Activism

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277. TNE TALKS: The Holy Spirit? Or "Just the Drums"? (Sarah Lane Ritchie & You Have Permission)

Mon, 01 Jul 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Dan Koch and Sarah Lane Ritchie discuss the challenges and complexities of worship music in evangelical and mainline churches. They explore the role of music in worship and the potential for manipulation and harm.

Takeaways

Music can be a powerful tool in worship, but it can also be used to manipulate and harm individuals.
The assumption that if something is God, it cannot be described or understood is a dualistic perspective that limits our understanding of the divine.
Music can be seen as a spiritual technology that helps individuals connect with the divine and create meaningful experiences.
The conflation of music with God can lead to harmful beliefs and practices, particularly in evangelical contexts.
The cultural reaction against evangelical worship music is often rooted in the harm caused by these practices, but it is important to recognize that music can have different effects on individuals. Worship music plays a significant role in both evangelical and mainline churches, but it can also be a source of tension and trauma for many individuals.
There is a need for intentional curation of worship experiences to ensure they are emotionally and cognitively engaging, while also avoiding manipulation and harm.
Embodied community is essential for a fulfilling worship experience, as digital communities cannot fully replace the benefits of in-person connection.
Finding a balance between the positive and negative aspects of religious traditions is a challenge, but it is possible to navigate a path that allows for personal growth and flourishing.
Worship music has the potential to cultivate a dispositional openness to what is both communal and divine, providing a sense of belonging and connection to something greater than oneself.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Self-Description

03:22 Exploring the Role of Music in Worship

10:40 The Harm of Conflating Music with God

25:09 The Cultural Reaction Against Evangelical Worship Music

37:27 The Cognitive and Emotional Challenges of Worship Music

41:39 The Perception of Modern Evangelical Worship

46:25 Religion as Nuclear Fission: The Power and Potential Dangers

59:39 The Dispositional Openness Cultivated by Worship Music

01:09:29 Navigating the Complexities of Faith and Tradition

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276. TNE RECAPS: Christian Nationalism invades Louisiana Classrooms

Fri, 28 Jun 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode, Tim and April discuss various aspects of Christian culture, including tattoos, the recent presidential debate, and a church selling plots of land in heaven. They are joined by Andrew Whitehead to explore the rise of Christian nationalism and its impact on issues like abortion. They highlight the increase in infant mortality rates in Texas after the abortion ban and critique the extreme views of some pro-life activists. The discussion covers the complexities within the pro-life movement, emphasizing the need for a nuanced understanding of reproductive rights, including access to healthcare, economic support, and comprehensive sex education. They also critique pro-life groups and politicians who fail to support policies that genuinely help mothers and children. The conversation then shifts to Christian nationalism's influence on American society, particularly the display of the Ten Commandments in public schools, exploring the motivations behind this push and the need for a more inclusive and compassionate understanding of patriotism and democratic responsibilities.

Takeaways

The rise of Christian nationalism has had a significant impact on issues like abortion, with some activists pushing for extreme measures and equating abortion to murder.
The recent abortion ban in Texas has led to an increase in infant mortality rates and birth defects, highlighting the unintended consequences of restrictive abortion laws.
There is a lack of compassion and nuance within the pro-life movement, with some activists failing to consider the real-life implications of their beliefs on women and families.
The pro-life movement needs to address the complexities of reproductive rights and focus on supporting women and families beyond just advocating for the end of abortion.
The rise of Christian nationalism and its influence on political discourse is a concerning trend that requires greater attention and understanding. Abortion is a complex issue that requires a nuanced understanding and consideration of various factors, including access to healthcare, economic support, and comprehensive sex education.
Pro-life groups and politicians should advocate for policies that support mothers and children, such as affordable childcare, healthcare, and livable wages.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Fun Banter

03:01 The Impact of Christian Nationalism on Abortion

09:29 Unintended Consequences: The Rise in Infant Mortality Rates in Texas

13:14 Lack of Compassion and Nuance in the Pro-Life Movement

25:19 The Rise of Christian Nationalism and its Influence on Politics

37:51 Understanding Abortion and the Need for Nuance

48:02 The Influence of Christian Nationalism

52:44 The Ten Commandments in Public Schools and Christian Nationalism

58:25 Redefining Patriotism: Justice, Equality, and Compassion

01:05:38 The Responsibility of Citizens in a Democratic Society

01:13:35 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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275. TNE RESPONDS: Gateway Church’s Statement on Robert Morris Falls Short

Wed, 26 Jun 2024 07:56:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode, Tim and April respond to the elder statement made by Gateway Church regarding the allegations against their lead pastor, Robert Morris. They express disappointment with the statement and discuss the lack of accountability and transparency. They highlight the need for Gateway Church to take concrete actions to address the harm caused and support the survivors. Tim and April also criticize the church's focus on the show and the institution rather than the well-being of the victims. They call for a halt in services, a thorough investigation, and financial reparations for the survivors. The conversation discusses the response of Gateway Church to the allegations against their former lead pastor, Robert Morris, who was accused of molesting a 12-year-old girl. The hosts criticize the church's lack of accountability and deflection of responsibility. They highlight the problematic mindset of some evangelical churches that prioritize success and money over addressing systemic issues and protecting victims. The conversation also touches on the comparison between leaving a church due to disappointment and leaving a church due to abuse, as well as the interconnectedness of charismatic leaders and the need for systemic change.

Takeaways

Gateway Church's elder statement regarding the allegations against Robert Morris lacked accountability and transparency.
Concrete actions, such as halting services and conducting a thorough investigation, are necessary to address the harm caused and support the survivors.
The focus on the show and the institution rather than the well-being of the victims is problematic.
Financial reparations should be considered to acknowledge the decades of harm and trauma experienced by the survivors. Some evangelical churches prioritize success and money over addressing systemic issues and protecting victims.
The response of Gateway Church to the allegations against Robert Morris lacked accountability and deflected responsibility.
Leaving a church due to disappointment is not the same as leaving a church due to abuse.
Charismatic leaders are often interconnected and need to be held accountable for their actions.
Systemic change is necessary to address the issues within evangelical culture.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

03:16 Allegations against Robert Morris

08:16 Lack of Accountability and Transparency

12:07 The Resignation of Robert Morris

13:36 Pattern of Similar Incidents

20:11 Frustration with the Church's Handling

21:20 Call for Financial Reparations

21:45 The Problematic Response of Gateway Church

22:42 The Prioritization of Success and Money in Evangelical Culture

23:24 Leaving Church: Disappointment vs. Abuse

25:17 The Interconnectedness of Charismatic Leaders

27:06 The Need for Systemic Change in Evangelical Culture

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Robert's Full Response Video

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274. TNE TALKS: Fighting Christian Nationalism with Rep James Talarico

Mon, 24 Jun 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Representative James Talarico and Tim Whitaker discuss topics such as Christian nationalism, faith, and navigating political differences. Talarico shares his background growing up in a conservative Christian home but attending a church that emphasized love for all people. He explains how his faith has informed his political views and motivated him to run for office. The conversation also touches on the importance of maintaining a spiritual foundation in politics, finding common ground with ideological opponents, and the challenges of addressing issues like Christian nationalism. In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and James Talarico discuss the importance of engaging in conversations to advocate for marginalized communities, the need for affordable healthcare and paid family leave, the role of right-wing media in spreading misinformation and fear, the threat of Christian nationalism, and the actions individuals can take to make a difference.

Takeaways

Growing up in a conservative Christian home, Representative James Talarico attended a church that emphasized love for all people, regardless of race, class, gender, or sexual orientation.

Talarico's faith has informed his political views and motivated him to run for office, with a focus on dismantling unjust systems and advocating for the well-being of all constituents.

Maintaining a spiritual foundation is crucial in navigating the challenges of politics, helping to control emotions and channel anger into productive and loving actions.

Finding common ground with ideological opponents is possible through personal connections and shared values, even while maintaining clear policy differences.

Addressing issues like Christian nationalism requires resisting harmful ideas and systems while avoiding personal attacks, focusing on the moral contrast and expanding the circle of concern for all people. Engaging in conversations and advocating for marginalized communities is crucial, as it relieves the burden on those directly affected by discriminatory policies.

Affordable healthcare and paid family leave are not radical ideas, but necessary measures to support families and ensure their well-being.

Right-wing media plays a significant role in spreading misinformation and fear, often prioritizing profit over truth.

Christian nationalism poses a threat to democracy and the values of equality and justice.

Individuals can make a difference by staying informed, supporting organizations working for change, and actively participating in the democratic process.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

09:29 Understanding Christian Nationalism

16:08 The Role of Faith in Politics

24:27 Addressing Christian Nationalism and Expanding the Circle of Concern

26:51 Affordable Healthcare and Paid Family Leave

29:33 Finding Common Ground

33:11 The Influence of Right-Wing Media

36:06 The Threat of Christian Nationalism

45:57 Taking Action for Change

Jame's Website

James on Twitter

James on TikTok

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273. TNE RECAPS: Gateway Church Covers Up the Truth

Fri, 21 Jun 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

The conversation discusses the technical difficulties faced before the recording and the humorous incidents that occurred. It then delves into the scandal surrounding Robert Morris and Gateway Church, where allegations of sexual abuse have been made against Morris. The conversation highlights the contradictory statements made by Gateway Church and the need for a thorough investigation. It also addresses the toxic culture within evangelical churches, the impact of purity culture, and the importance of holding leaders accountable. Cindy, the alleged victim, releases a statement expressing her disappointment in the church's response and calling for justice and reform. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the hypocrisy and lack of accountability within certain religious circles, particularly in relation to the handling of sexual abuse allegations. They highlight the case of Robert Morris, a megachurch pastor who platformed Mark Driscoll, despite Driscoll's history of abusive behavior. They also criticize the selective outrage and silence of certain evangelical influencers, such as Meg Basham and Allie Stuckey, who condemn Morris but defend John MacArthur, despite his involvement in covering up child abuse within his own church. The conversation emphasizes the need for accountability and the dismantling of toxic systems within religious institutions.

Takeaways

Technical difficulties can occur before a recording, but it is important to persevere and find solutions.
The scandal surrounding Robert Morris and Gateway Church highlights the need for thorough investigations and accountability within religious institutions.
Toxic culture and purity culture within evangelical churches contribute to the protection of abusive leaders and the blaming of victims.
Victims of abuse should be supported and encouraged to come forward, and justice and reform should be pursued.
The statements made by Gateway Church and the alleged victim, Cindy, reveal the need for transparency and genuine repentance. There is a lack of accountability and hypocrisy within certain religious circles when it comes to handling sexual abuse allegations.
Some religious leaders and influencers selectively condemn certain individuals while defending others, based on their theological alignment or personal biases.
The focus should be on protecting victims and holding abusers accountable, rather than protecting the reputation of religious institutions.
Toxic systems within religious institutions need to be dismantled in order to prioritize the well-being and safety of individuals.
Accountability and transparency are essential in creating a healthy and safe environment within religious communities.

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272. TNE RESPONDS: Robert Morris, Molestation Allegations, and Evangelical Corruption

Wed, 19 Jun 2024 12:45:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode, Tim discusses the recent allegations against Robert Morris, the lead pastor of Gateway Church, who admitted to engaging in inappropriate sexual behavior with a 12-year-old girl when he was in his early 20s. Tim criticizes the response from Gateway Church and highlights the systemic issues within the evangelical church that enable and protect abusive pastors. He also addresses the harmful narratives propagated by conservative media about the supposed dangers of drag queen story hour, while ignoring the real threat of sexual abuse within churches. Tim calls for accountability and a dismantling of the toxic structures within American evangelicalism.

Takeaways

The allegations against Robert Morris are serious and have not been disputed by Gateway Church or Morris himself.
The response from Gateway Church and the language used in their statement minimizes the gravity of Morris' actions and prioritizes his healing journey over the survivor's experience.
The American evangelical church operates as a corporate entity focused on growth and spectacle, often prioritizing the protection of the organization over the well-being of survivors.
The evangelical church needs to address the systemic issues that enable and protect abusive pastors rather than blaming individuals or dismissing the problem.
Conservative media's focus on supposed threats outside of the church, like drag queen story hour, distracts from the real issue of sexual abuse within churches.
The current structures of American evangelicalism need to be dismantled in order to restore the witness of Christianity and prioritize truth, character, and integrity.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Content Warning

00:41 Unpacking the Allegations Against Robert Morris

10:27 The Toxicity of American Evangelicalism

24:53 The Need for Church Accountability

26:19 Dismantling the Structures of Evangelicalism

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Robert's Full Response Video

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271. TNE TALKS: Navigating Faith in Modern and Postmodern Worlds // Myron Penner, PhD

Mon, 17 Jun 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

The conversation with Myron Penner this week explores the transition from pre-modern to modern to postmodern eras, focusing on the relationship between faith, reason, and truth. It delves into the intellectual history of these movements, the impact of modernity on theology, and the deconstruction of texts in the postmodern context.

Takeaways

The transition from pre-modern to modern to postmodern eras has had a significant impact on the relationship between faith, reason, and truth.

The conversation explores the intellectual history of these movements, shedding light on the impact of modernity on theology and the deconstruction of texts in the postmodern context.

The discussion provides insights into the interpretation of texts, the correspondence theory of truth, and the philosophical frameworks of modernity and postmodernity. Interpreting biblical texts involves considering historical context, author status, and social factors, challenging the traditional focus on authorial intent.

The conversation highlights the tension between modernist and postmodernist perspectives in interpreting Christian beliefs, emphasizing the need for intellectual humility and open dialogue.

The evolution of Christian beliefs and the dynamic nature of theological interpretations are explored, challenging the notion of a static, monolithic view of historic orthodox Christianity.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Faith, Reason, and Truth

06:53 The Impact of Modernity on Theology and Truth

29:42 Navigating the Complexity of Biblical Interpretation

53:36 The Interplay of Modernist and Postmodernist Perspectives in Christian Beliefs

58:07 The Evolution and Dynamic Nature of Christian Beliefs

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270. TNE RECAPS: Holy Villains

Fri, 14 Jun 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Tim and Janice discuss various topics, including the conviction of Donald Trump, the misuse of religious language in politics, and the role of evangelical leaders. They also touch on the hypocrisy of some evangelical leaders and the need for skepticism and critical thinking. The conversation highlights the manipulation of religious beliefs for political gain and the importance of understanding the historical context of political decisions. In this part of the conversation, Tim and Janice discuss the themes of white evangelicalism, the failure of the democratic process, and the hypocrisy of Trump's supporters. They explore the idea that America is in decline and that evangelicalism has failed the test of staying true to its values. They also touch on the conviction of Hunter Biden and the response from both sides of the political spectrum. In this final part of the conversation, Tim discusses the use of memes and images to attack political opponents, particularly in the context of Hunter Biden and Donald Trump. He highlights the hypocrisy of Trump supporters who find such memes acceptable when they target Trump, but not when they target Hunter Biden. Tim also criticizes the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) for its regressive views on women's roles and IVF, and expresses his frustration with the continued platforming of Carl Lentz. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the love and acceptance of queer neighbors, and the control and ownership mentality of some evangelical Christians.

Takeaways

The conviction of Donald Trump is discussed, with the hosts highlighting the manipulation of religious language in politics and the misuse of biblical values.
The conversation emphasizes the need for skepticism and critical thinking when evaluating the actions and statements of evangelical leaders.
The hosts reflect on the historical context of political decisions and the importance of understanding the impact of past events on current issues.
The conversation raises questions about the sincerity of some evangelical leaders and their motivations for aligning with political figures. White evangelicalism has failed to stay true to its values and has embraced hypocrisy.
America is in decline and is facing serious challenges.
The conviction of Hunter Biden highlights the importance of respecting the judicial process.
The political divide in America is deepening, with both sides often failing to see the flaws in their own arguments. The use of memes and images to attack political opponents is hypocritical and lacks logical consistency.
The Southern Baptist Convention's focus on regressive views on women's roles and opposition to IVF is misguided and out of touch.
The continued platforming of Carl Lentz raises questions about accountability and genuine repentance.
Love and acceptance of queer neighbors should be a fundamental aspect of Christian faith.
The control and ownership mentality of some evangelical Christians hinders progress and understanding.

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269. TNE RESPONDS: Harrison Butker’s Speech is Worse than You Think

Wed, 12 Jun 2024 10:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Tim and Father Jim Gretzky discuss various topics related to Catholicism and the role of priests and bishops. They touch on issues such as the traditional Latin mass, Catholic teachings on abortion and IVF, and the role of priests in parish communities. They also discuss the COVID-19 pandemic and its impact on the Catholic Church. Throughout the conversation, they highlight the importance of understanding the complexities of Catholicism and avoiding generalizations or false judgments. In this conversation, Tim and Father Jim analyze a speech given by NFL player Harrison Butker at Benedictine College. They discuss the recurring theme of longing for a mythological past and the connection between Christian nationalism and the desire to return to a privileged time. They also explore the traditional Catholic view of marriage and the importance of adhering to Catholic traditions. Father Jim provides insights into the Catholic perspective on issues such as birth control and the role of men in society. They highlight the need for nuance and understanding in discussions about faith and the dangers of fundamentalism.

Takeaways

Understanding the complexities of Catholicism is important to avoid generalizations or false judgments.

The role of priests and bishops in the Catholic Church is multifaceted and requires a deep understanding of theology and pastoral care.

The COVID-19 pandemic presented challenges for the Catholic Church, but decisions made by bishops and priests were often based on public health guidelines and the safety of parishioners.

Recognizing the authority of bishops and priests is essential in understanding the role they play in leading the Church and administering the sacraments.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Overview

02:03 Exploring the Complexities of Catholicism

10:23 The Role of Priests and Bishops in the Catholic Church

15:07 Understanding Catholic Teachings on Abortion

25:22 The Importance of Charity and Staying in One's Lane

30:27 Avoiding Generalizations and False Judgments

38:29 The Role of Priests and Bishops in Parish Communities

47:00 Reflecting on Past and Present Leadership in the Catholic Church

48:59 Longing for a Mythological Past

52:18 The Traditional Catholic View of Marriage

59:47 God-Centered Pride and Glorifying Him

01:09:22 The Catholic View of Marriage

01:17:32 The Importance of Tradition in Worship

01:25:26 Surrounding Yourself with People Who Sharpen You

01:31:49 The Catholic Position on Birth Control

James Martin’s Books:

The Jesuit Guide to (Almost) Everything: A Spirituality for Real Life

My Life with the Saints

In Good Company

Greg Boyle’s Books:

Tattoos on the Heart

Barking to the Choir

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268.TNE TALKS: Theology Meets AI // Kester Brewin

Mon, 10 Jun 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Kester Brewin author of God Like: A 500-Year History of Artificial Intelligence in Myths, Machines, Monsters joins Tim to talk about how AI is changing how we understand reality and how theology can be used to use new technologies in wise ways.

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267. TNE RECAPS: Trump. The American Jesus

Fri, 07 Jun 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode, Tim, April, and Andrew discuss Christian nationalism and its impact on various social issues. They explore the definition of Christian nationalism and its desire to see a specific expression of Christianity fused with American civic life. They also examine the association between Christian nationalism and opposition to same-sex marriage, as well as the belief in traditional social arrangements and hierarchies. The conversation highlights the slow liberalization of views on same-sex marriage among those who embrace Christian nationalism. The discussion also touches on the theological challenges faced by Christian nationalists when it comes to accepting queer relationships and the rejection of contraception access by some Republicans. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the themes of white Christian nationalism, the intersection of religion and race, and the dangers of Christian nationalist ideology. They highlight the importance of understanding the motivations and beliefs of Christian nationalists, as well as the potential consequences if their ideology gains more power and influence in the United States. The conversation also touches on the hypocrisy and double standards of conservative pundits and the need for people to stay informed and speak out against Christian nationalism.

Takeaways

Christian nationalism seeks to fuse a specific expression of Christianity with American civic life and desires to see the government defend and preserve that cultural framework.

Those who strongly embrace Christian nationalism are more likely to oppose same-sex marriage and support the right of small business owners to refuse service to gay or lesbian people.

While there has been a liberalization of views on same-sex marriage among all Americans, those who embrace Christian nationalism have been slower to change their stance.

Christian nationalism's belief in traditional social arrangements and hierarchies poses theological challenges when it comes to accepting queer relationships.

Some Republicans' rejection of contraception access aligns with the belief in a rightly ordered society that involves a man and a woman having many children. White Christian nationalism is a dangerous ideology that seeks to maintain white privilege and power in the United States.

Christian nationalism is intertwined with white supremacy and seeks to enforce a specific vision of America based on Christian values.

Understanding the motivations and beliefs of Christian nationalists is crucial in order to counter their influence and protect marginalized communities.

Conservative pundits often engage in hypocrisy and double standards when it comes to supporting political figures and ideologies.

It is important for individuals to stay informed about the dangers of Christian nationalism and to speak out against it in order to protect democracy and promote equality.

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266. TNE RESPONDS: Trump's Verdict Means Nothing

Wed, 05 Jun 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Tim breaks down why for Evangelicals, Trump being a convicted felon will not affect their loyalty for him.

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265. TNE TALKS: Wisdom from Nana's Porch // Diane Shiffer

Mon, 03 Jun 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode, Tim interviews Diane Schiffer, a popular content creator, about her journey in content creation, her background in evangelicalism, and her experiences with Christian culture and politics.

Takeaways

Diane's journey from Episcopalian to evangelicalism and her disillusionment with evangelical subculture.

The impact of purity culture and evangelical subculture on Diane's personal and family life.

The tokenization of individuals in evangelical spaces and the complexities of LGBTQ+ issues within evangelicalism.

Observations of the rise of Trump within evangelical spaces and the challenges of being a Democrat in evangelical circles.

The disillusionment with evangelical leaders and the impact of Trump's presidency on evangelical spaces.

The personal journey of faith and belief, navigating religious subcultures, and the pursuit of empathy and kindness in a divisive world.

Chapters

00:00 From Episcopalian to Evangelical: A Journey of Disillusionment

10:24 Deconstructing Evangelicalism and Purity Culture

14:05 The Rise of Trump

40:35 Understanding Christian Nationalism

48:15 Navigating Faith, Belief, and Empathy

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264. TNE RECAPS: Trump Is Guilty

Fri, 31 May 2024 08:00:00 -0000

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263: TNE RESPONDS: I Spent 24 Hours with Paul and Morgan

Wed, 29 May 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Tim was featured on an episode of 24 hours with Paul and Morgan discussing their differences about theology, politics and culture. Was Tim fairly represented? Or were their edits misleading? Join Tim and his wife (Sarah) as they watch it live for the first time and react.

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262. TNE TALKS: Christians Living in an Empire of Terror // Shane Claiborne

Mon, 27 May 2024 08:00:00 -0000

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261. TNE RECAPS: Mike Johnson's "Christian" Values

Fri, 24 May 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode of the New Evangelicals Podcast, Tim and April are joined by Sue Wright, a retired school teacher, to discuss various topics in the Christian culture. They touch on Sue's lack of religious trauma, the concept of the rapture, and their plans for Memorial Day weekend. They also discuss the controversy surrounding a speech by Harrison Butker and the lack of charity in the response to it. The hosts then share their thoughts on an upcoming video series featuring Paul and Morgan, a conservative Christian couple, spending 24 hours with people who have different beliefs. In this part of the conversation, Tim and April discuss their plans to watch a video response to Tim's deconstruction journey on YouTube. They also talk about the process of filming the video and the different locations they visited. They then shift the conversation to the topic of Greg Locke, a controversial pastor who has been declared an apostle by his wife and other pastors. They discuss Locke's extreme views and the dangers of Christian nationalism. They also touch on the hypocrisy of politicians like Mike Johnson, who claim to be moral and religious but defend immoral actions. The conversation ends with a discussion about men showing emotions and Matt Walsh's tweet about men crying.

Takeaways

Sue's lack of religious trauma provides a unique perspective in the conversation

The hosts discuss the controversy surrounding a speech by Harrison Butker and the lack of charity in the response to it

An upcoming video series featuring Paul and Morgan spending 24 hours with people who have different beliefs sparks interest and curiosity Tim and April plan to watch a video response to Tim's deconstruction journey on YouTube.

They discuss the process of filming the video and the different locations they visited.

They highlight the extreme views of Greg Locke, a controversial pastor who has been declared an apostle.

They discuss the dangers of Christian nationalism and the hypocrisy of politicians like Mike Johnson.

They talk about the importance of men being able to show emotions and criticize Matt Walsh's tweet on the topic.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Welcome

02:05 Sue's Unique Perspective

03:03 Controversy and Lack of Charity in the Response to Harrison Butker's Speech

14:18 Upcoming Video Series by Paul and Morgan Sparks Interest and Curiosity

38:05 Filming the Video

39:36 Greg Locke: Controversial Pastor

43:58 Debating a Flat Earther

45:25 Greg Locke Declared an Apostle

48:54 Men Showing Emotions

57:04 The Hypocrisy of Politicians

01:00:49 Matt Walsh's Tweet

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260. TNE RESPONDS: A Church Gives Bad Mental Health Advice

Wed, 22 May 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Tim responds to Rich and Dawnchere Wilkerson telling their congregation not to seek therapy that isn't founded in the Bible

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259. TNE TALKS: Building Bridges with Our Enemies// John Pavlovitz

Mon, 20 May 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

John Pavlovitz, author of the book, Worth Fighting For: Finding a Faith That Makes a Better Human, discusses his journey from being a conservative evangelical pastor to a more progressive Christian ethos. Tim and John discuss the tensions between personal convictions and pastoral expectations, the challenges of navigating relationships within the church, and the importance of humanizing people in the midst of political differences.

Takeaways

Many people within conservative evangelical communities feel torn between their convictions and the community they love, making it difficult to navigate their beliefs and relationships.

It is important to humanize people and remember that individuals within the Christian nationalist movement are not a monolith. There is diversity of thought and experience within these communities.

Dehumanization is a dangerous path that can lead to violence, and it is crucial to maintain empathy and respect for others, even in the midst of political differences.

Authentic dialogue, empathy, and compassion are essential in bridging the divide and fostering understanding between different theological and political perspectives.

Navigating relationships with people who hold different beliefs requires curiosity, understanding, and respect for their journey.

Being a progressive Christian involves the challenge of maintaining relationships while advocating for systemic change.

Unity, empathy, and humanizing the conversation are essential for moving forward and creating a more inclusive society.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

06:15 Humanizing People in the Midst of Political Differences

27:34 Navigating Relationships with Different Beliefs

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258. TNE RECAPS: Harrison Butker Fumbles the Ball

Fri, 17 May 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Tim and April discuss various topics, including their preferences for living in different states, Tim's love for New Jersey, and April's love for Mexican food. They also touch on the concept of a daily live show, a prayer for lactose intolerance, and a prophecy update regarding the rapture. They discuss the ongoing investigation into the death of Micah Miller and the controversy surrounding Lake Point Church's attempt to skew a traffic study. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss a controversial commencement speech given by Harrison Butker, the kicker for the Kansas City Chiefs. They analyze Butker's comments about women and their roles in society, as well as his views on Catholicism and Christian nationalism. The hosts critique the speech and highlight the harmful and patriarchal messages it conveys. They also address the hypocrisy of Christian nationalists who claim to be persecuted while advocating for discrimination against marginalized groups. The conversation touches on the broader themes of feminism, cancel culture, and the role of men in society.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction

01:22 Living in Different States: Tim's Love for New Jersey

07:03 The Idea of a Daily Live Show

10:21 Prophecy Update: The Rapture

42:20 Introduction: Harrison Butker's Controversial Speech

45:07 Butker's Views on Cultural Values and Media

47:05 Butker's Critique of Catholicism and Pro-Choice Catholics

51:53 The Role of Women in Butker's Speech

55:41 The Importance of Marriage and Motherhood in Butker's Speech

01:09:25 Absentee Fathers and Violence Rates

01:14:06 Reaction to Butker's Speech: Twitter Responses

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257. TNE RESPONDS: Alisa Still Doesn't Understand Deconstruction

Wed, 15 May 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode, Tim responds to a video by Alisa Childers, a prominent figure in the apologetics space. Tim addresses the claim that the deconstruction movement exists only because of social media and argues that deconstruction is not a unified movement but rather an explosion of individuals with different perspectives. He also challenges the idea that words have objective meaning and explores different interpretations of the Bible. Tim concludes by discussing the concept of truth and the limitations of proving historical events like the resurrection of Jesus.

Takeaways

Deconstruction is not a unified movement but an explosion with a diverse individuals with different perspectives.

Social media has played a significant role in the deconstruction movement by providing a platform for people to share their experiences and access alternative perspectives.

Christianity has different metanarratives depending on the particular stream of Christian thought.

The concept of truth in Christianity is complex, and the ability to prove historical events like the resurrection is limited.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Conversation and Background on Alisa Childers

02:04 Deconstruction as an Explosion, Not a Unified Movement

05:12 The Influence of Social Media on the Deconstruction Movement

08:37 The Challenge of Objective Meaning in Words

13:02 The Diversity of Interpretations in the Bible

16:32 Different Metanarratives in Christianity

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256. TNE TALKS: The Church Hurt Me Then it Healed Me // Ryan George

Mon, 13 May 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

Ryan George grew up in the Independent Fundamentalist Baptist (IFB) church and experienced both abuse and healing within the church. He shares his story of growing up in a conservative and abusive environment, where rules and regulations were enforced to an extreme degree. Ryan's father, a pastor in the IFB network, was later exposed as a serial sexual predator. Ryan reflects on the spiritual and physical abuse he endured, as well as the ways in which the IFB culture justified and perpetuated this abuse. It was through therapy, healthy relationships, and experiencing true love and community that Ryan began to recognize the abuse he had endured and find healing. Ryan George shares his journey of healing and redemption after experiencing spiritual abuse and the harm caused by his father. Despite the pain and trauma, Ryan found healing in the church through authentic relationships and a personal connection with God. He emphasizes the importance of finding safe spaces and supportive communities where individuals can share their hurts and doubts. Ryan's story highlights the power of redefining one's understanding of God and finding healing in unexpected places.

Takeaways

The IFB culture enforced extreme rules and regulations, leading to spiritual and physical abuse.

Through therapy, healthy relationships, and experiencing true love and community, Ryan began to recognize the abuse he had endured and find healing.

Authentic relationships and supportive communities in the church can play a crucial role in the healing process.

Redefining one's understanding of God and finding a personal connection can lead to healing and transformation.

Safe spaces where individuals can share their hurts and doubts are essential for healing and growth.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction: Hurt and Healed by the Church

07:37 The Dark Side of the IFB: Serial Sexual Predators

26:59 Introduction and Background

37:07 Navigating the Church After Spiritual Abuse

45:02 Finding Healing and Redemption in the Church

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255. TNE RECAPS: The Mica Miller Story

Fri, 10 May 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode April and Tim discuss the Mica Miller case. The hosts discuss the controversy surrounding the viral video of the pastor announcing his wife's death during a sermon. They mention Mica's mental health struggles, reports of abuse, and the couple's separation and divorce filings. They explores how the evangelical world broadly addresses allegations of abuse, the toxic positivity within evangelicalism, and the need for a more inclusive and supportive church culture. The hosts emphasize the importance of mental health support and resources for those in abusive relationships. They also discuss the flaws in gun laws and the dangers of overlooking red flags within church leadership. They also discuss which tweet will be awarded "the tweet of the week".

Takeaways

When discussing sensitive topics like mental health and abuse caution and sensitivity is key.

Information in the Mica Miller case is still being released and it's important not to jump to conclusions without waiting for more data.

The conversation raises questions about Mica's husbands' behavior and the dynamics of his relationship with his wife. Mica Miller's death highlights the need for mental health support and resources for those in abusive relationships within the church.

Toxic positivity within evangelicalism can prevent individuals from seeking help and acknowledging mental health struggles.

Gun laws should be more thoughtfully created to prevent individuals in vulnerable mental states from accessing firearms.

Church leadership must be held accountable for overlooking red flags and enabling abusive behavior.

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254. TNE RESPONDS: Rosaria Butterfield's Dangerous Influence on Conservative Christianity // Matthew Vines

Wed, 08 May 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode, Tim sits down with Matthew Vines from The Reformation Project to discuss Rosaria Butterfield's problematic anti LGBTQ+ theology, and her impact on the larger conservative Christian culture.

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253. TNE TALKS: What I Missed at Exiles In Babylon // Billie Hoard

Mon, 06 May 2024 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode, Tim sits down with Billie Hoard to discuss her thoughts on Tim's experience at the Exiles in Babylon Conference.

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252. TNE RECAPS: Go Home John MacArthur

Fri, 03 May 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Tim and April discuss various topics including April's super villain chair, their confessions about being involved in multi-level marketing schemes, the recent overturning of the ban on LGBTQ+ clergy in the United Methodist Church, and the student protests in solidarity with the Palestinian people. They also touch on the militarization of the US police force and the need for the evangelical church to repent for its harmful theology. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the controversial statements made by John MacArthur regarding mental health. They highlight the problematic nature of his views and the harm they can cause to individuals struggling with mental health issues. They also critique the dismissive and judgmental attitude towards those who seek medication and treatment for their conditions. The conversation touches on the dehumanization of children and the harmful beliefs about women's roles in the church. Despite these negative perspectives, the hosts also highlight some positive news and victories in the fight for justice and equality.

Chapters

00:00 Confessions: Tim and April's MLM Experiences

03:14 United Methodist Church Overturns Ban on LGBTQ+ Clergy

15:04 Student Protests in Solidarity with Palestinians

32:55 Introduction and Background on John MacArthur

36:18 John MacArthur's Controversial Views on Mental Health

44:44 The Dehumanization of Children and Rigid Gender Roles

01:05:06 Positive News and Victories in the Fight for Justice

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251. TNE RESPONDS: This Might Change the Church Forever Pt. 2 // Rev. Dr. Angela N. Parker

Wed, 01 May 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

Rev. Dr. Angela N. Parker, a theologian and professor, is interviewed by Tim. They discuss Dr. Parker's work and the upcoming book by Richard Hayes titled:'The Widening of God's Mercy: Sexuality Within the Biblical Story,' which challenges traditional non-affirming views on sexuality and presents an affirming standpoint. Richard Hayes is an influential New Testament scholar known for his work on the faithfulness of Christ. One of his influential books is The Moral Vision of the New Testament, which includes a chapter on homosexuality. The conversation explores the problematic idea of trying to change the sexual orientation of LGBTQIA+ Christians. It discusses the pressure for LGBTQIA+ individuals to conform to a monolithic identity in order to be accepted by churches. The conversation also highlights the dominance of mostly white men in the field of biblical scholarship and the need for diverse perspectives. The conversation discusses the impact of Hayes' earlier teaching against queer affirming theology and the harm caused by his narrow perspectives. The conversation touches on the need for white men to listen to and learn from queer scholars who have already done extensive biblical scholarship. It emphasizes the importance of not overshadowing or dismissing the work of marginalized voices.

Takeaways

The field of biblical scholarship needs more diversity and representation

Listening to diverse perspectives can help challenge and broaden our understanding of the world

Acknowledging and making amends for past harm is an important part of personal growth and repentance.

White men should listen to and learn from marginalized voices, particularly queer scholars, who have already done extensive biblical scholarship on queer affirmation.

The conversation highlights the need for humility and a willingness to learn and change.

The work of white evangelicals should involve fighting against Christian nationalism and working towards justice and equality.

We need to critically think about who we invite into our spaces and the perspectives we prioritize.

Treating marginalized groups as monolithic is dangerous and perpetuates stereotypes.

Living in cognitive dissonance is challenging but can lead to growth and change.

There is a need for liberation from hateful rhetoric against LGBTQIA+ individuals within denominations and churches.

Flourishing and full participation should be possible for all members of the community.

Recognizing and amplifying the work of queer scholars and biblical scholarship is important.

Biblical scholarship has a significant impact on shaping Christian culture.

Faith should be a catalyst for social justice and dismantling systems of oppression.

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250. TNE TALKS: The Problem with Criminalizing Addiction // Christina Dent

Mon, 29 Apr 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

Christina Dent, author of the book, Curious: A Foster Mom’s Discovery of an Unexpected Solution to Drug Addiction, shares the journey that changed her perspective on drugs and addiction. Ultimately, it led her to start the organization End It For Good. She discusses the importance of understanding the underlying causes of addiction and the need for a more compassionate and evidence-based approach to drug policy.

Takeaways

Changing deeply ingrained beliefs and challenging the status quo can be difficult but necessary.

There are financial incentives that perpetuate the current drug policy system.

Faith can play a role in shaping one's perspective on addiction and compassion.

A more compassionate and evidence-based approach to drug policy is needed.

Legal regulation is crucial to ensure consumer safety and reduce crime related to drug addiction.

Accessible healthcare, livable wages, and social infrastructure are essential in supporting individuals with addiction.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

02:31 Changing Perspectives on Drugs and Addiction

08:19 Challenging the Status Quo in Drug Policy

13:16 The Role of Faith in Shaping Perspectives

23:46 The Need for a Compassionate and Evidence-Based Approach

28:45 Approaching Loved Ones with Addiction

31:32 The Ineffectiveness of Arresting Drug Dealers

35:29 Addressing Contaminated Drugs through Legal Regulation

39:36 The Need for Accessible Healthcare and Livable Wages

46:36 Switzerland's Innovative Approaches to Drug Addiction

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249. TNE RECAPS: Sean Feucht v. Taylor Swift

Fri, 26 Apr 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Tim and April discuss Taylor Swift's new album and the criticism it has received from some conservative Christians. They address the accusations of blasphemy and witchcraft, as well as the critique of explicit lyrics. They also highlight the hypocrisy of supporting Donald Trump while condemning Swift's music. The conversation reveals the subjective nature of art interpretation and the need for self-reflection within religious communities. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the misconceptions and misunderstandings surrounding the concepts of witchcraft, demons, and Christian nationalism. They critique the views of Sean Feucht, a Christian musician and activist, who uses buzzwords like witches and demons without fully understanding their historical and cultural contexts. They also highlight the financial motivations behind Feucht's activism and his association with other controversial figures like Mark Driscoll and Eric Metaxas. The conversation touches on the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the role of Christian Zionism, as well as the harmful effects of fear-based ideologies and the importance of respecting individual beliefs.

Takeaways

The criticism of Taylor Swift's album by conservative Christians reveals the subjective nature of art interpretation.

Accusations of blasphemy and witchcraft are based on selective reading and misinterpretation of lyrics.

The hypocrisy of supporting Donald Trump while condemning Swift's music exposes the double standards within some religious communities.

Misunderstandings and misconceptions about witchcraft and demons are prevalent, often fueled by a lack of historical and cultural context.

Some Christian activists, like Sean Feucht, use buzzwords without fully understanding their meanings, leading to misrepresentations and fear-based ideologies.

Christian nationalism often promotes a narrow and exclusionary view of Christianity, disregarding the diversity of beliefs within the faith.

Respecting individual beliefs and avoiding the imposition of one's own beliefs on others is crucial for fostering understanding and dialogue.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Mispronunciations

07:06 Engaging with Different Perspectives on LGBTQ+ Affirmation

27:27 Sean Feucht's Urgent Message and Misguided Critiques

35:26 The Subjectivity of Art Interpretation and the Need for Self-Reflection

45:52 Navigating the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict with Nuance

52:56 Respecting Individual Beliefs and Avoiding Imposition

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248. TNE RESPONDS: Exiles In Babylon Recap // Tim Whitaker

Wed, 24 Apr 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

Tim recaps his experience attending the Exiles in Babylon conference and shares his thoughts on the event. The conference covered various topics such as Israel and Palestine, deconstruction and reconstruction, women and patriarchy, LGBTQ+ issues, and politics in the church. Tim discusses the controversy surrounding the event due to the host, Preston Sprinkle, holding a non-affirming stance on LGBTQ+ issues. He shares his own conflicted perspective on the matter. Tim also highlights the diversity of speakers and attendees at the conference and the positive conversations that took place.

Takeaways

The Exiles in Babylon conference covered a range of topics that are currently in the cultural zeitgeist.

The event was controversial due to the host, Preston Sprinkle, holding a non-affirming stance on LGBTQ+ issues.

The conference had a diverse range of speakers and attendees, fostering positive and thought-provoking conversations.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Gratitude

06:32 Tim's Role at the Conference

10:34 Protesters and Criticism

15:47 The Burden of Side B Perspectives

25:40 Changing Perspectives and Encouragement

29:47 Supporting the Work of Project Amplify

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247. TNE TALKS: Compassion is Not Political // Bri Stensrud

Mon, 22 Apr 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

Bri Stensrud, founder of Women of Welcome, and author of the book, Starts with Welcome: The Journey Toward a Confident and Compassionate Immigration Conversation, discusses her passion for the immigration conversation and how it changed her personal and professional life. Bri reflects on the disconnect between the evangelical culture she grew up in and the reality of the immigration issue, and how it led her to question her faith, politics, and personal life.

Takeaways

The immigration conversation is complex and goes beyond legal and illegal distinctions; it involves understanding the holistic stories of individuals affected by violence, corrupt governments, and civil war.

The evangelical culture often prioritizes self-preservation and curated spaces over sacrificially living for others, which can lead to a disconnect between faith and compassionate action.

Compassion for immigrants and refugees is not a political stance but a prophetic movement rooted in the teachings of Jesus.

Engaging in the immigration conversation requires holding elected officials accountable, advocating for change, and recognizing that no political platform aligns perfectly with pro-immigrant values. Meeting people where they are in their understanding of immigration issues is important for fostering compassion and understanding.

Chapters

00:00 The Transformative Power of Encounters

03:46 The Disconnect Between Evangelical Culture and the Reality of the Immigration Issue

08:41 Moving Beyond Legal vs. Illegal

12:18 The Need for a Prophetic Movement: Compassion as a Spiritual Responsibility

27:53 Compassion and Understanding in Immigration Conversations

30:24 Starts with Welcome: A Faith-Filled Perspective on Immigration

33:44 Addressing the Broken Immigration System and the Need for Reform

41:37 Proximity and Compassion: Essential Elements in Immigration Advocacy

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246. TNE RECAPS: Mark Driscoll Needs Therapy

Fri, 19 Apr 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the recent events involving Josh Howerton and Mark Driscoll. They talk about Josh's apology and the similarities between his apology and another pastor's apology. They also discuss Mark's controversial remarks at the Stronger Men's Conference and his use of the Jezebel spirit trope. The conversation delves into the problematic nature of these actions and the reactions from the audience and online community. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the recent controversy surrounding Mark Driscoll and his involvement in the Stronger Men's Conference. They explore the dynamics of the charismatic world and its tendency to look for demons everywhere, as well as the intersection of Christian nationalism and charismatic beliefs. They also highlight the lack of accountability and the documented legacy of abuse associated with Mark Driscoll. The conversation touches on the internalized misogyny within evangelical circles and the problematic views on women's modesty. They conclude by discussing the recent developments involving John Lindell and his call for Mark Driscoll to repent.

Takeaways

Apologies should be genuine and not copied from others

Using the Jezebel spirit trope is sexist and misogynistic

Mark Driscoll's actions and remarks are calculated and attention-seeking

The reactions from the audience and online community reveal the problematic nature of these actions. The charismatic world is often primed to look for demons everywhere, and this tendency is amplified when combined with Christian nationalist beliefs.

Mark Driscoll has a history of abuse and a lack of accountability, yet he continues to gain a following and promote his new book.

There is a prevalent issue of internalized misogyny within evangelical circles, with many women defending Mark Driscoll despite his problematic views and treatment of women.

John Lindell has called out Mark Driscoll for his actions and has received death threats as a result.

The concept of 'modesty' in evangelical circles is often misused and places the burden on women to manage men's thoughts and actions.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Setting

07:07 Josh Howerton's Apology and Plagiarism

31:26 Mark's Calculated Actions and Reactions

43:04 John Lindell's Call for Mark Driscoll to Repent

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245. TNE RESPONDS: This Might Change the Church Forever Pt. 1 // Tim Whitaker and Dan Koch

Wed, 17 Apr 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Dan Koch discuss the upcoming book by Richard B. Hayes, a respected New Testament scholar, titled 'The Widening of God's Mercy: A Thoroughly Biblical Account of LGBTQ Affirmation in the Church.' They explore the potential impact of the book and the various reactions it has received. They also discuss the importance of acknowledging the harm caused by previous non-affirming positions and the need for an apology. They consider the strategic implications of the book and its potential to shift the conversation in white evangelical spaces. They highlight the importance of listening to the voices of queer Christian scholars and the potential for the book to provide validation and support for those navigating their faith and sexuality. In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Dan Koch discuss the complexities of personal beliefs and the influence of family and media. They explore the idea of holding contradictory views and the importance of integration and growth.

Takeaways

Richard B. Hayes, a respected New Testament scholar, has written a book titled 'The Widening of God's Mercy: A Thoroughly Biblical Account of LGBTQ Affirmation in the Church.'

The book has received various reactions, ranging from skepticism to hopefulness.

It is important to acknowledge the harm caused by previous non-affirming positions and to apologize for the damage done.

The book has the potential to make a significant impact in white evangelical spaces, particularly among the rank and file members of churches.

The strategic implications of the book should be considered, as it may provide validation and support for those navigating their faith and sexuality.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

06:47 Reactions and Expectations

26:52 Validation and Support for Navigating Faith and Sexuality

42:28 The Importance of Integration and Growth

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244. TNE TALKS: Our Unique Moment In American Democracy // Sharon McMahon

Mon, 15 Apr 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Sharon McMahon discusses her background. She emphasizes the importance of pluralism and focusing on behaviors rather than beliefs. She shares her passion for government and history, as well as the process of writing her book The Small and the Mighty.

Takeaways

Engaging with different perspectives can be challenging but is essential for personal growth and learning.

Online harassment is a significant issue, with women and minorities often facing more severe threats and abuse.

Christian nationalism is a threat to democracy, with some proponents advocating for authoritarianism and the exclusion of certain groups.

Polarization in American politics is not new, but the current era is unique due to factors such as the internet and media fragmentation.

The founding of America was not explicitly intended to be a Christian nation, and the principles of democracy should be prioritized over religious affiliation.

When voting, it is important to consider a candidate's character, commitment to democratic principles, and long-term impact rather than focusing solely on specific policies.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

03:00 Questioning Faith and Beliefs

06:04 Pluralism and Behaviors

09:56 Dealing with Misinformation and Fake Experts

14:56 Passion for Government and History

21:47 Challenges of Being a Content Creator

32:44 Engaging with Different Perspectives

35:38 The Meanest Group on the Internet

41:21 Polarization in American History

45:02 Christian Nationalism and its Impact

51:21 The Founding of America and Christian Influence

01:02:18 Critical Thinking in the Voting Process

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243. TNE RECAPS: Trump Got (Just) ONE Thing Right? // April Ajoy and Tim Whitaker

Fri, 12 Apr 2024 08:00:00 -0000

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242. TNE RESPONDS: Why You Should Ignore This Pastor's Wedding Advice // Tim Whitaker

Wed, 10 Apr 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Tim responds to a viral clip of a mega church pastor giving marriage advice. He critiques the pastor's perspective on marriage, particularly the gendered and stereotypical views that men don't care about weddings and women's bodies belong to their husbands. Tim argues that this mentality wreaks havoc on people, especially women, and promotes unhealthy dynamics in marriages. He also discusses the damaging effects of purity culture and the lack of comprehensive sex education in evangelicalism. Tim concludes by urging for a more mutual and respectful approach to marriage.

Takeaways

Gendered and stereotypical views in marriage advice can be harmful and promote unhealthy dynamics.

Purity culture teachings can lead to unsatisfactory sex lives and unhealthy marriages.

Comprehensive sex education and open communication are essential for a healthy and mutual marriage.

Mutuality and respect should be prioritized in marriages, rather than rigid gender roles.

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241. TNE TALKS: Flanked by a Brovangelical // Reverend Susan Langner

Mon, 08 Apr 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Tim Whitaker interviews Reverend Susan Langner, who was the subject of a YouTube video where a young man confronts her for being a female LGBTQ affirming pastor. They discuss the incident, the challenges of being a woman in ministry, and their different experiences with the Bible. Susan shares her upbringing in a progressive church and the importance of questioning and open-mindedness. They also explore the cultural context of biblical stories and the need for deeper understanding. The conversation highlights the tension between fundamentalist interpretations and more nuanced approaches to faith. In this conversation, Tim and Susan discuss the challenges of interpreting scripture accurately and the cultural assumptions and nuances that can be missed. They explore the impact of fundamentalism and the need for good faith dialogue. They also touch on the experiences of women in ministry and the misogyny and sexism they face. The conversation delves into the themes of deconstruction, the reconciling of conflicting beliefs, and the importance of creating inclusive spaces. They also discuss the power of music in worship and the need for more theologically rich and inclusive songs.

Takeaways

The incident of the YouTube video highlights the challenges faced by women in ministry and the backlash they can receive from more conservative Christians.

Susan's upbringing in a progressive church allowed her to question and explore different interpretations of the Bible, leading to a more nuanced understanding of faith.

Understanding the cultural context of biblical stories is crucial for a deeper interpretation and can challenge traditional understandings.

The tension between fundamentalist interpretations and more open-minded approaches to faith is an ongoing struggle in many religious communities. Interpreting scripture accurately requires an understanding of cultural assumptions and nuances.

Fundamentalism often prioritizes owning and destroying opposing arguments rather than engaging in good faith dialogue.

Women in ministry frequently face misogyny and sexism, but there are supportive congregations as well.

Deconstruction involves questioning and reevaluating beliefs, which can be a painful but liberating process.

Creating inclusive spaces and worship experiences is essential for embracing diversity and fostering a sense of belonging.

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240. TNE RECAPS: Christian Visibility Day?! // April Ajoy

Fri, 05 Apr 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Tim and April discuss negative reviews Tim has received for his podcast and delve into the topic of prophecy. They also analyze a controversial statement made by pastor Josh Howerton about women's roles on their wedding night. The conversation highlights the unrealistic expectations and harmful stereotypes perpetuated by purity culture and the need for open and honest discussions about sex and relationships. In this conversation, Tim and April discuss the harmful rhetoric and misinformation spread by Christian nationalists. They also delve into the controversy surrounding President Joe Biden's recognition of the Trans Day of Visibility on Easter Sunday, which sparked outrage among Christian nationalists. The conversation exposes the hypocrisy and disingenuousness of these individuals, who claim to be defending Christianity while promoting hate and discrimination. The hosts emphasize the need for critical thinking and a more compassionate approach to faith.

Takeaways

The statement made by pastor Josh Howerton about women's roles on their wedding night perpetuates harmful stereotypes and unrealistic expectations.

Purity culture can create unrealistic expectations and hinder healthy discussions about sex and relationships.

Open and honest conversations about sex and relationships are necessary to challenge harmful beliefs and promote healthy attitudes. Harmful rhetoric and misinformation perpetuated by Christian nationalists can have damaging effects on individuals and communities.

The controversy surrounding President Joe Biden's recognition of the Trans Day of Visibility on Easter Sunday highlights the intolerance and discrimination of Christian nationalists.

Christian nationalists often prioritize their own interests and beliefs over the well-being and rights of marginalized groups.

A more compassionate and critical approach to faith is needed to counteract the harmful influence of Christian nationalism.

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239. TNE RESPONDS: Loving Genocide? // Dr. Randal Rauser

Wed, 03 Apr 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Tim and Dr. Randal Rauser respond to a video from the Within Reason Podcast hosted by atheist Alex O'Connor, in which he discusses William Lane Craig's defense of the Canaanite slaughter in the Bible. They discuss the moral implications of God commanding the killing of innocent children and the justification of genocide. They also explore the concept of divine command morality and its implications for moral intuitions. The conversation raises questions about the consistency of God's moral commands and the trustworthiness of moral intuition. In this conversation, Tim and Randall discuss the moral implications of God commanding the killing of innocent children in the Bible. They explore the theological justifications offered by William Lane Craig and critique them, highlighting the moral repugnance of such actions. They also discuss the impact on the soldiers who carried out these commands and the potential dangers of interpreting ancient texts literally in a contemporary context. The conversation raises important questions about the nature of morality and the role of religion in shaping ethical beliefs.

Takeaways

The theological justifications offered by William Lane Craig for God commanding the killing of innocent children are morally repugnant.

Interpreting ancient texts literally in a contemporary context can lead to dangerous justifications for violence and harm.

Religious beliefs need to be critically analyzed along with their implications for moral decision-making.

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238. TNE TALKS: Decolonizing Deconstruction // Janice Lagata and Ashlee

Mon, 01 Apr 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Tim, Janice, and Ashlee discuss their origin story and how they connected on social media. They delve into the pitfalls of social media deconstruction content creation, grifters, what healthy accountability looks like, and why caution when choosing who to platform is critical. They also discuss why decolonizing is essential to the work of deconstruction and needs to be prioritized in progressive christian communities.

Takeaways

Learning from past mistakes is crucial for personal growth and building healthy relationships.

The pitfalls of social media include the pressure to constantly create content and the temptation to monetize and exploit others' pain.

Accountability is essential in the online space, and it is important to question the motives and actions of those in positions of influence.

Platforming those who have previously caused harm should be approached with nuance, considering the potential for redemption and growth, while also holding individuals accountable for ongoing patterns of harm.

Recognize the privilege and power dynamics in content creation, particularly for white men, and actively work to amplify marginalized voices. Decolonization is a process that takes time, and it is important to be open to learning from mistakes and engaging with diverse perspectives.

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237. TNE RECAPS: Trump The Holy Week Bible Salesman // Andrew L. Whitehead

Fri, 29 Mar 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode, Tim and Andrew L. Whitehead discuss recent events related to Christian nationalism. They start by examining Donald Trump's attempt to sell a Bible during Holy Week, highlighting the disconnect between his actions and his claims of faith. They then delve into the concept of Christian nationalism and its association with persecution. The conversation shifts to the Society for American Civic Renewal, a men-only group aiming to reshape America as a conservative Christian nation. Finally, they explore Project 2025, a collection of right-wing groups seeking to implement a policy plan that promotes Christian nationalism. The conversation explores the themes of Christian nationalism and power, the research on Christian nationalism, the interpretation of Christian nationalism, the Christian persecution complex, the connection between Christian nationalism and gifts of the spirit, the meaning of Good Friday in relation to Christian nationalism, and personal palette cleansers.

Takeaways

Donald Trump's attempt to sell a Bible during Holy Week highlights the disconnect between his actions and his claims of faith.

Christian nationalism often involves a closed system of thinking that prioritizes a particular expression of Christianity and views other perspectives as threats.

The Society for American Civic Renewal is a men-only group that seeks to reshape America as a conservative Christian nation, emphasizing patriarchal leadership and hierarchy.

Project 2025 is a collection of right-wing groups that aims to implement a policy plan promoting Christian nationalism. Christian nationalism is about consolidating power and maintaining power for the in-group at the expense of out-groups.

Research shows that a significant percentage of people believe Christian nationalism is a smear term, but also believe it is the only idea that will save the nation.

Good Friday represents the idea of divesting power for the sake of others, while Christian nationalism seeks to build crosses for enemies instead of loving them.

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236. TNE RESPONDS: Is That REALLY Why People Deconstruct? // Tim Whitaker

Wed, 27 Mar 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode, Tim responds to a clip from John Mark Comer discussing the reasons why people deconstruct their faith. Tim critiques Comer's points and offers his own insights. He highlights the importance of addressing church abuse and unaccountable spaces, the impact of poor teaching and shoddy theology, the misconceptions about sin and sexual morality, and bad arguments about the influence of social pressure and leftist ideologies, and the role of demonic oppression in deconstruction.

Takeaways

Church abuse and unaccountable spaces can lead to deconstruction.

Poor teaching and shoddy theology can cause people to reject Christianity.

Misconceptions about sin and sexual morality can drive individuals to reevaluate their faith.

Demonic oppression, the desire to "sin more", and social pressure are not the widespread causes of deconstruction.

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235. TNE TALKS: Life After Doom // Brian McLaren

Mon, 25 Mar 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

Brian McLaren discusses his new book, Life After Doom: Wisdom and Courage for a World Falling Apart, that addresses the multiple crises facing our world, including climate change, white Christian nationalism, and ecological overshoot. McLaren emphasizes the feeling of doom that many people experience and the need for a deep spiritual transformation to address the root problem.

Takeaways

Denial and misinformation about climate change are fueled by economic interests, partisan affiliations, and ideological biases.

Theological arguments, such as the belief in the imminent return of Jesus, can hinder environmental stewardship. Disembedding our identity from the values of our current civilization is crucial for envisioning life after doom.

Renewing our minds and adopting a different set of assumptions and values can lead to personal transformation.

Rediscovering indigenous wisdom can provide valuable insights into our interconnectedness with the earth and the need for a holistic approach to environmental stewardship.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

01:29 The Poly Crisis

06:01 The Root Problem: Ecological Overshoot

10:01 The Motivation Behind Denial

11:28 The Theological Argument

16:28 The Influence of Conservative Media

21:52 The Impact of Rapture Theology

29:35 Life After Doom

30:17 Disembedding Identity

32:18 The Bible and the End of Civilization

33:37 Coping with the End of Civilization

36:19 Bringing Good News

38:10 Addressing Pressing Issues

41:19 Voting and Talking About Concerns

45:24 Business and Science as Agents of Change

49:02 Religion's Role in the Transformation

50:20 Rediscovering Indigenous Wisdom

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234. TNE RECAPS: The End of the World is Here (FOR REAL) // April Ajoy

Fri, 22 Mar 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode, Tim and April introduce their new segment, TNE Recaps, where they discuss and provide humorous commentary on current events. They start by reviewing and voting on the Tweet of the Week, which includes tweets from Nancy Piercy, Joel Berry, and Alex Jones. They then discuss a controversial statement made by Donald Trump at a rally, where he referred to the January 6th rioters as 'hostages.' Finally, they dive into the world of end-times prophecy, focusing on the upcoming solar eclipse on April 8th and the various interpretations and predictions surrounding it.

Takeaways

The TNE Recaps segment provides a lighthearted and humorous take on current events.

Social media posts from prominent figures can often contain misinformation and conspiracy theories.

End-times prophecy can lead to anxiety and a lack of focus on important issues in the present.

It is important to critically evaluate and fact-check claims made by religious leaders and public figures.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Segment Overview

02:56 Introducing April Ajoy as Co-host

06:11 Tweet of the Week

23:14 Prophecy of the Week: April 8th Solar Eclipse

41:04 Closing Remarks and Audience Feedback

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233. TNE RESPONDS: The Worst Sermon Ever? // Kevin Carnahan

Wed, 20 Mar 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Tim and Kevin Carnahan review a sermon by Ed Young, a former president of the Southern Baptist Convention. The sermon includes xenophobic rhetoric and misinformation about immigration. They discuss the misinterpretation of parables, the intertwining of Texas culture and Christian nationalism, and the false narrative surrounding immigration. They also address the flawed logic of equating socialism with dictatorship. Overall, the conversation highlights the dangers of using religious platforms to spread divisive and harmful ideologies. In this conversation, the host and guest discuss immigration and border security. They address misconceptions about immigration, such as the idea that immigrants are flooding the country to change the voting demographic. They also highlight the role of Republicans in blocking border security bills and the mischaracterization of Joe Biden's immigration policies. The conversation delves into false claims about gangs and crime, as well as the use of anecdotal evidence to make broad generalizations. The guest's sermon is critiqued for its anti-intellectualism and failure to consider other perspectives. The conversation highlights the ambiguity of the call for a great awakening.

Takeaways

Misinterpretation of parables can lead to distorted messages and harmful ideologies.

The intertwining of Texas culture and Christian nationalism can perpetuate harmful rhetoric.

The false narrative surrounding immigration can perpetuate xenophobia and misinformation.

Anecdotal evidence should not be used to make broad generalizations about immigrants.

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232. TNE TALKS: The False White Gospel // Jim Wallis

Mon, 18 Mar 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

Jim Wallis is author of several books that discuss the rise of white Christian nationalism and its threat to democracy. He calls for a remnant church that stands against Christian nationalism and works towards justice and equality.

Takeaways

White Christian nationalism is a political takeover of evangelicalism that poses a threat to democracy.

Building a new American church requires multiracial, multifaith, and multigenerational coalitions.

Faith and hope are essential in the fight against Christian nationalism and the pursuit of justice.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

01:01 Political Takeover of Evangelicalism

03:21 Jim Wallis’ Journey

06:15 Learning from Black Churches

08:09 Rediscovering the Teachings of Jesus

09:08 The Importance of Defeating Christian Nationalism

10:08 The Threat to Democracy

11:31 White Christian Nationalism: Extreme or Cyclical?

16:19 The Good Samaritan Parable

23:53 Shining the Light of Truth

28:15 The Remnant Church

31:31 The Hope of a New Generation

39:30 The Power of Faith and Hope

51:03 Conclusion and Call to Action

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231. The Case Against John MacArthur // Tim Whitaker

Fri, 15 Mar 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode, Tim delves into the case against John MacArthur, a well-known pastor and theologian. He discusses MacArthur's views on slavery, and highlights MacArthur's legacy of protecting men in his church who have been accused of sexual abuse. Tim presents evidence of MacArthur's knowledge of the abuse and his failure to take appropriate action. This conversation exposes the disturbing actions and responses of John MacArthur and Grace Community Church (GCC) in cases of child abuse within their congregation. The chapters cover MacArthur's dismissive response to Wendy's accusations, the confrontation and revelation of Paul Guay's abuse, GCC's inadequate response to the abuse, MacArthur's involvement and contradictory statements, MacArthur's public shaming of Eileen Gray, the elders' dismissal of Gray's abuse allegations, David Gray's conviction and MacArthur's support, Alistair Begg's controversial advice and MacArthur's response, and the lack of accountability for MacArthur's actions.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Podcast Schedule Changes

04:37 The Case Against John MacArthur

09:20 John MacArthur's Views on Slavery

26:24 John MacArthur's Response to Wendy's Accusations

27:21 Confrontation and Revelation of Paul Guay's Abuse

28:18 Grace Brethren Church's Response to Paul Guay's Abuse

29:14 John MacArthur's Involvement and Affidavit

30:13 John MacArthur's Denial and Affidavit

32:04 John MacArthur's Public Shaming of Eileen Gray

32:59 Elders' Response to Eileen Gray's Abuse Allegations

34:34 David Gray's Conviction and John MacArthur's Support

44:33 Alistair Begg's Controversial Advice and John MacArthur's Response

49:12 John MacArthur's Lack of Accountability

Sources

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David Gray Source #2

John MacArthur on Race

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230. Libs of TikTok’s Propaganda Can’t Stand Up to Actual Journalism // Billie Hoard

Wed, 13 Mar 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Tim is joined by Billie Hoard to watch and respond to Libs of TikTok creator Chaya Raichik’s DISASTER of an interview with Taylor Lorenz in what is a masterclass of learning how propaganda words and how empty its rhetoric is.

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229. What Comes After The White Evangelical Church? // Sarah McCammon

Mon, 11 Mar 2024 08:00:00 -0000

Sarah McCammon discusses her book, The Exvangelicals: Loving, Living and Leaving the White Evangelical Church, and her personal journey of leaving the white evangelical church. She explores the reasons for writing the book and the motivations behind the exvangelical movement.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

01:05 Motivation for Writing the Book

04:31 Reasons for Leaving the Evangelical Church

10:07 Themes Explored in the Book

17:31 Understanding Evangelicalism in the Media

33:39 Debunking the Notion of Exvangelicals as Anti-Religion

40:22 The Rise of Protestantism

42:45 The Impact of the Internet

45:30 A Shift in Evangelicalism

48:02 The Weaponization of Religion

48:58 Empathy and Understanding

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228. The Surprising New Data on Christian Nationalism // Tim Whitaker

Fri, 08 Mar 2024 09:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode, Tim delves into the PRRI data on Christian nationalism, highlighting the percentage of Americans who adhere to or reject Christian nationalist views. Tim explores the geographical breakdown of Christian nationalism support, its correlation with political affiliation, and the interpretation of Christian nationalism in the black community.

Takeaways

Christian nationalism is supported by approximately 30% of Americans, with 10% being adherents and 20% being sympathizers.

Support for Christian nationalism is higher in Republican-leaning states and among white evangelical Protestants.

Black Christian nationalists interpret the five statements used to measure Christian nationalist views differently, focusing on the fight for equity rather than taking over and using power to control others.

Christian nationalism is correlated with support for Trump, far-right news sources, and apocalyptic views of political struggle.

Engaging with adherents of Christian nationalism may be challenging, but there may be opportunities to persuade sympathizers.

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227. The Deconstruction of Christianity? A Book Review // Thomas Jay Oord

Wed, 06 Mar 2024 09:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Thomas Jay Oord discuss the book 'The Deconstruction of Christianity' by Alisa Childers and Tim Barnett. They explore themes such as the concept of objective truth, the ambiguity of scripture, the role of subjectivity in interpretation, the problem of selective objectivity, the complexity of biblical interpretation, the inconsistencies in fundamentalist Christian beliefs, reasons for deconstruction, the inadequate responses to deconstruction, the contradictions in the authors' arguments, the flawed application of a modernist lens, the need for a standard outside of scripture, and the logical conclusion of Jesus' divinity. This conversation explores the problematic arguments presented in the book 'Why I Still Believe' by Tim Barnett and J. P. Moreland. The hosts discuss the weak arguments for Jesus as God and the divinely inspired predictions attributed to him. They also critique the book's emphasis on unquestioning biblical authority and the role of humans in interpreting the Bible. The conversation delves into the fear of questioning authority and the difficulty of leaving a tribe or way of life. The hosts highlight the problematic labeling of deconstructors as "captured" and the either/or approach to love. Thomas Oord also discussed his upcoming book on deconstruction and offers a different perspective on the topic.

Takeaways

The concept of objective truth and the role of subjectivity in interpretation are crucial in understanding deconstruction.

The ambiguity of scripture and the complexities of biblical interpretation challenge the idea of a singular, objective truth.

The authors' arguments in 'The Deconstruction of Christianity' often lack consistency and fail to address the complexities and nuances of the issues they discuss.

The need for a standard outside of scripture and the recognition of the fruit of beliefs are important considerations in evaluating the validity of certain theological claims.

The conversation highlights the ongoing challenges and debates surrounding deconstruction and the search for certainty in matters of faith. The arguments presented in 'Why I Still Believe' for Jesus as God and the divinely inspired predictions attributed to him are weak and unconvincing.

Questioning biblical authority does not equate to deconstructing it, and it is important to recognize the role of humans in interpreting the Bible.

The fear of questioning authority and the difficulty of leaving a tribe or way of life can hinder the process of deconstruction.

Love should not be reduced to standing for truth or empathy alone, but should aim for overall well-being and flourishing.

There is a need for a book that offers guidance and support to friends and parents of deconstructors, helping them navigate the process with empathy and understanding.

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226. How Relationships Change Everything // BIll Yoh

Mon, 04 Mar 2024 09:00:00 -0000

Summary

Bill Yoh, a member of one of America's wealthiest families, shares his journey from the business world to working in nonprofit and faith-based spaces. Bill emphasizes the importance of faith becoming the central part of life and using his privilege to serve the underserved.

Takeaways

Engaging in dialogue and civil discourse is essential for bridging the division in society.

Faith can be integrated into business through servant leadership and ensuring just wages for employees.

Mission trips can challenge preconceived notions and provide opportunities for personal growth and service.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

02:51 Turning Point: Mom's Passing and Faith Awakening

06:08 Moments of Awakening: Overseas Mission Trip and Pandemic

09:01 Faith Transformation and Division in Society

14:56 Faith in Business and Reconciling Wealth

21:01 Mission Trips and Challenging Perceptions

22:34 Providing Food and Building Relationships

26:12 Charity vs. Systemic Change

30:26 Ministry and Evangelism

34:22 Philanthropy and Working with People of Means

39:37 Best Cheesesteak in Philly

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225. The BIGGEST Factor in the 2024 Election?

Fri, 01 Mar 2024 09:00:00 -0000

Andrew Whitehead joins Tim to talk about the brand new PRRI data on Christian Nationalism and how it will impact this year's 2024 election.

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224. Targeted By Libs of TikTok! // Billie Hoard

Wed, 28 Feb 2024 09:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Billie Hoard discuss recent cases of violence against trans people and the hostile environment they face. They highlight the controversial mass at St. Patrick's Cathedral and the case of Next Benedict, a non-binary teenager who died after being bullied. They also explore the role of Christian nationalism and the theology of disgust in perpetuating discrimination against the LGBTQ+ community. The conversation emphasizes the power of disgust in fueling fascism and the social spread of disgust. This conversation explores the concept of disgust and its impact on society, particularly in relation to the LGBTQ+ community. It highlights the contrast between Jesus' acceptance and the Christian disgust towards queer individuals. The conversation emphasizes the importance of the gospel as good news and the need to transform disgust into love and acceptance. It also discusses the power of love and intimacy in decreasing disgust reactions. The conversation delves into the dangers of accounts like Libs of TikTok and the real-world consequences they can have, as demonstrated by Billie's personal experience. Billie shares her personal experience of facing false accusations and a targeted campaign to remove her from her teaching position. The conversation also discusses the misrepresentation of video footage and the dangerous consequences of stigmatizing safe spaces for LGBTQ+ students. The role of Haya, the creator of Libs of TikTok, in shaping educational policies is examined, highlighting the lack of expertise and integrity in her involvement. The conversation emphasizes the importance of standing against Christian nationalism and advocating for comprehensive sex education and queer rights.

Takeaways

The intersection of Christian nationalism and the theology of disgust contributes to the marginalization of the LGBTQ+ community.

Addressing the systemic issues that perpetuate violence and discrimination against trans people requires challenging and dismantling Christian nationalist ideologies. Disgust can be a harmful emotion when it is directed towards individuals or groups, particularly the LGBTQ+ community.

The gospel should be driving Christians towards inclusion and acceptance, rather than disgust and rejection.

Love and intimacy have the power to decrease disgust reactions and foster understanding and acceptance.

The misrepresentation of video footage can be used to stigmatize and harm LGBTQ+ individuals and their safe spaces.

It is crucial to stand against Christian nationalism and advocate for comprehensive sex education and the rights of queer individuals.

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223. Living Undivided, Loving Courageously for Racial Healing and Justice // Chuck Mingo and Troy Jackson

Mon, 26 Feb 2024 09:00:00 -0000

Summary

Chuck Mingo and Troy Jackson discuss their book, Living Undivided: Loving Courageously for Racial Healing and Justice, and the work they do with Undivided, a nonprofit organization focused on racial justice. They emphasize the importance of relationships, community, and personal transformation in the pursuit of racial healing and justice especially within the church.

Takeaways

The church has a crucial role to play in countering white Christian nationalism and fostering racial healing and justice.

Empowering people and helping them move from feeling powerless to claiming power and community is essential for justice.

Understanding power and its potential for manipulation and abuse is crucial in the pursuit of racial justice.

Moving past debates and taking action is more important than dissecting words and terms.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

03:42 The Journey to Undivided

06:26 What is Undivided?

08:22 Challenges in Bridging the Gap

19:25 The Role of the Church

25:20 The Power of Relationships

33:03 What is Living Undivided about?

37:08 Pragmatic Approaches to Change

40:13 The Role of the Church in Racial Injustice

42:31 Understanding Power and its Abuses

42:50 Resistance to Change in Church Contexts

44:18 Creating a Space for Courageous Leadership

45:15 Moving Past Debates and Taking Action

46:15 Racial Healing and Demonstrating the Way of Jesus

47:34 The Future of White Evangelicalism

49:43 Opportunities and Risks in Faith Communities

50:22 Connecting with the Undivided Movement

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222. The Rise and Fall of the Christian Music Industry // Leah Payne, PhD.

Mon, 19 Feb 2024 09:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and Leah Payne, PhD. discuss her book, God Gave Rock and Roll to You, that outlines the origins and impact of contemporary Christian music (CCM). They explore the power of music in religious experiences and the potential for manipulation in revivalist moments as well as the complicated relationship with problematic artists and the ethical dilemma of singing their songs.

Takeaways

Contemporary Christian music (CCM) has a diverse range of genres and subgenres, making it difficult to define and categorize.

The use of music in political and nationalist movements can be both inspiring and concerning, as it can rally people around a cause.

The Christian music market has become more complex, with different subgroups of

genres.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and New Year's Recap

06:25 The Book: God Gave Rock and Roll to You

09:15 The Origins of Contemporary Christian Music

22:23 The Manipulative Potential of Revivalist Moments

25:21 The Use of Music in Political and Nationalist Movements

29:25 The Complicated Relationship with Problematic Artists

36:30 Navigating the Ethical Dilemma of Singing Problematic Songs

41:28 The Rise of Worship Bands

43:04 The Impact of the Internet on Christian Music

56:06 The Influence of Aesthetics on Evangelical Culture

59:39 The Decline of Christian Bookstores

01:02:28 Where to Find Leah Payne

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221. He Gets Us, Evangelicals Don't Get Him // Tim Whitaker

Fri, 16 Feb 2024 09:00:00 -0000

In this episode, Tim shares his thoughts on the He Gets Us Super Bowl commercial.

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220. Women's Suffrage Was a Net... LOSS?! // Sheila Gregoire and Dr. Beth Allison Barr

Wed, 14 Feb 2024 09:00:00 -0000

Summary

Dr. Nancy Pearcey, author of 'The Toxic War on Masculinity' claimed in a recent podcast interview that women’s suffrage was a net loss and that Christian marriages are healthier than their non-christian counterparts. Tim brings on Sheila Gregoire, author of 'The Great Sex Rescue' along with Dr. Beth Allison Barr, author of 'The Making of Biblical Womanhood' to respond.

Resources

- Susan Ware, Why They Marched: Untold Stories of the Women Who Fought for the Right to Vote (Cambridge, MA: The Belknap Press of Harvard University Press)

- Anita Anand, Sophia: Princess, Suffragette, Revolutionary (New York: Bloomsbury)

- Manuela Thurner, “’Better Citizens without the Ballot’: American AntiSuffrage Women and Their Rationale During the Progressive Era,” Journal of Women’s History 5:1 (Spring 1993), 33-60

- Hallie Rubenhold, The Five: The Untold Lives of the Women Killed by Jack the Ripper (New York: Mariner Books An Imprint of HarperCollins)

- Martha S. Jones, Vanguard: How Black Women Broke Barriers, Won the Vote, and Insisted on Equality for All (New York: Basic Books)

Websites

- https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/07/07/a-century-after-women-gained-the-right-to-vote-majority-of-americans-see-work-to-do-on-gender-equality/

- https://www.womenshistory.org/articles/votes-women-means-votes-black-women

- https://www.nps.gov/articles/anti-suffragism-in-the-united-states.htm#_edn33

- https://www.crusadeforthevote.org/naows-opposition#:~:text=Some%20argued%20women%20lacked%20the,By%20Allison%20Lange%2C%20Ph

Also

- Susan Ware, American Women’s Suffrage: Voices from the Long Struggle for the Vote, 1776-1965 (New York: Penguin Random House)

- Rosalyn Terborg-Penn, African American Women in the Struggle for the Vote, 1850-1920 (Bloomington: Indiana University Press)

- Ellen Carol Dubois, Suffrage: Women’s Long Battle for the Vote (New York: Simon & Schuster)

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219. Start Theologizin' Bigger! // Pastor Trey Ferguson

Mon, 12 Feb 2024 09:00:00 -0000

Summary

Pastor Trey Ferguson discusses his book, Theologizin' Bigger: Homilies on Living Freely and Loving Wholly, that explores the themes of the black church tradition, the interpretation of the Bible, and the impact of white supremacy on Christianity.

Takeaways

The fullness of God cannot be confined to any one particular tradition.

The black church tradition recognizes the reality of being black in the United States as a valid starting point for discussions about God.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

03:00 The Premise of the Book: Theologizing Bigger

08:16 The Black Church Tradition

20:13 The White Man's Religion

25:58 Imagination and Theologizing

40:05 Imagination for a Better World

44:14 Resisting Shame and Embracing Humility

45:06 Honoring Tradition and Relating to God

47:02 Solidarity and Compassion

49:14 The Expansiveness of God and Humility

52:06 Respecting Differences and Finding Shalom

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218. Universalism: Ancient Heresy or Biblical Teaching? // Keith Giles

Fri, 09 Feb 2024 17:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Tim and Keith discuss the topic of universal reconciliation and respond to the claim that it is not a biblical or Christian perspective. They explore various themes, including the historical context of universalism, the views of early church fathers, and the nature of God. They also address the theological critiques of universalism, such as the connection between conditionalism and universalism. In this conversation, Tim and Keith discuss the concept of universal reconciliation and respond to critiques of the belief. They explore the idea of having the mind of Christ and the importance of humility. They address theological and philosophical critiques of universalism, including the claim that it originated from Gnosticism and Kabbalah. They also discuss the problem of grace and how universalists interpret biblical passages differently. The conversation highlights the different hermeneutic approaches used by universalists and the challenges of interpreting Paul's writings. They conclude by addressing verses that seem to support eternal punishment.

Takeaways

Universalism is not a radical or heretical view, but rather a valid and biblical perspective within the Christian tradition.

The early church fathers, including Origen, held views of universal reconciliation, and the label of heresy was not applied until much later.

The connection between conditionalism and universalism is not a slippery slope, and each view has its own distinct theological arguments.

The theological critiques of universalism can be addressed through a deeper understanding of the nature and character of God. Having the mind of Christ involves humility and the willingness to lower oneself for the sake of others.

The claim that universalism originated from Gnosticism and Kabbalah is unfounded and lacks evidence.

The problem of grace in universalism is a misunderstanding; extending grace to everyone does not diminish its value.

Universalists interpret biblical passages differently, often using apocalyptic hyperbole and spiritual readings.

Paul's writings can be interpreted in different ways, but the concept of universal reconciliation is supported by various passages.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage

08:09 Claim 1: Universalism is Radical

15:19 Claim 2: Origen and the Label of Heresy

23:41 Claim 3: Connection between Conditionalism and Universalism

34:49 Theological Critiques of Universalism: The Problem of God

47:12 The Mind of Christ and Humility

48:37 Critiques of Universalism

49:37 Guilt by Association

53:41 The Problem of Grace

57:25 Different Hermeneutic Approaches

01:13:23 Interpreting Paul's Writings

01:18:04 Addressing Verses on Punishment

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217. Myth-Busting Sunday School // Dr. James McGrath

Mon, 05 Feb 2024 09:00:00 -0000

Summary

Dr. James McGrath wrote the book, A to Z of the New Testament: Things Experts Know That Everyone Else Should Too, to help lay people with information about the NT from the cultural context. Tim and Dr. McGrath discuss the benefits that help us understand details that put scripture in context.

Takeaway

The Nativity was about a spare room in Middle Eastern hospitality culture not in a barn

The Birth of Jesus isn’t about Jesus having a human mother and divine Father

Salvation is complex

Sexuality within the Bible is difficult to compare to modern views of sexuality

Chapters

Intro 0:00

What is the NT about 2:00

The Nativity Story 8:00

The Birth Discrepancies 13:01

Creed Christianity 28:02

Salvation 33:15

Questions About Sexuality 43:65

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216. Conversations with a Sinfluencer // Deconstruction Girl

Fri, 02 Feb 2024 09:00:00 -0000

Summary

This conversation between Tim Whitaker and Deconstruction Girl revolves around the topic of deconstruction within Christianity. They discuss the misunderstandings and misconceptions surrounding deconstruction, the validity of deconstructing one's faith, the issue of gatekeeping and labeling, the straw man argument often used against deconstruction, the concept of atonement and sacrifice, the importance of deconstruction, and the futility of arguing with those who are not open to understanding different perspectives. The conversation explores the process of deconstructing faith and responding to questions about it. It delves into the examination of beliefs and the challenges of holding on to faith. The concept of sin and its loaded meaning is discussed, along with the need to expand its definition. The complexity of defining sin is explored, considering its cultural and historical contexts. The conversation also highlights the importance of exposure and normalization of different perspectives. Finally, the response to criticism and the experience of celebrity status are addressed.

Takeaways

Deconstruction is often misunderstood and misrepresented within Christianity.

Deconstructing one's faith is a valid and personal journey that should be respected.

Gatekeeping and labeling can be harmful and dismissive of individual experiences.

The straw man argument is frequently used to undermine the validity of deconstruction.

The concept of atonement and sacrifice in Christianity can be complex and diverse.

Deconstruction plays an important role in personal growth and understanding one's faith.

Arguing with those who are not open to different perspectives can be futile and unproductive. Deconstruction of faith involves examining beliefs and questioning their validity.

The concept of sin is loaded and its definition can vary depending on cultural and historical contexts.

Expanding the definition of sin allows for a more nuanced understanding of its impact.

Exposure to different perspectives can lead to a reevaluation of beliefs and a more inclusive worldview.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

03:00 The Misunderstanding of Deconstruction

08:14 The Validity of Deconstruction

13:22 Gatekeeping and Labeling

17:25 The Straw Man Argument

21:59 The Atonement and Sacrifice

26:23 The Importance of Deconstruction

28:06 The Experience of Salvation

32:20 The Futility of Arguing

34:23 Deconstructing Faith and Responding to Questions

35:22 Examining Beliefs and Holding on to Faith

36:10 The Concept of Sin and its Loaded Meaning

37:41 Expanding the Definition of Sin

38:18 Understanding Sin in a Systemic Context

39:15 The Complexity of Defining Sin

40:19 Sin in Different Cultural and Historical Contexts

41:16 Reevaluating the Concept of Sin

42:13 Exposure and Normalization of Different Perspectives

43:32 Celebrity Status and Response to Criticism

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215. Crisis on the Border, Trump, and the Christian Nationalism Behind It // Andrew Whitehead

Wed, 31 Jan 2024 09:00:00 -0000

This is a brand new monthly installment featuring Andrew Whitehead who's a leading sociologist of Christian Nationalism.

On this month's episode Tim and Andrew unpack the Christian Nationalism that is fueling the panic at the southern border.

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214. Holy Ghosted and Gaslighted by God // Tiffany Yecke Brooks, PhD

Mon, 29 Jan 2024 09:00:00 -0000

Tiffany Yecke Brooks, PhD shares her personal journey of growing up in a fundamentalist faith tradition. She discusses the moment she realized something was wrong and how it led her to write a book called Holy Ghosted. She also explains the concept of spiritual anxiety and religious trauma and how churches use them to indoctrinate us.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

03:00 Growing Up in a Fundamentalist Faith Tradition

06:00 Questioning Gender Roles and Church Leadership

13:00 Writing a Book Speaking Out

20:00 Understanding Spiritual Anxiety and Religious Trauma

25:00 Setting Boundaries vs. Manipulation and Control

35:00 The Importance of Clarity and Authenticity in Churches

36:13 Exclusion of the Queer Community

37:31 Linguistical Whiplash in Churches

44:30 Building a Healthy Church Community

48:13 The Big Picture and Context

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213. Evangelical Voters Still Want Trump! // Riley Martinez

Fri, 26 Jan 2024 09:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Tim Whitaker and political analyst Riley Martinez discuss the New Hampshire primary and its implications for the Republican Party. They explore the voting process in the primaries and the support for both Donald Trump and Nikki Haley. They delve into the significance of the white evangelical vote and the influence of Trumpism within the GOP. The conversation also touches on the war within the party and the election fraud narrative. They highlight immigration as a key issue and discuss Biden's handling of the genocide in Gaza. The conversation concludes with a look at upcoming primaries and Nikki Haley's future in the race.

Takeaways

The New Hampshire primary is the first primary of the election year and is often indicative of who will win the primary elections.
Trump has a strong base of support among white evangelicals, which has remained consistent over the years.
The Republican Party has shifted towards Trumpism, with neoconservative candidates facing challenges.
Immigration is a significant issue for Republicans, even in states far from the southern border.
Foreign policy, particularly the war in the Middle East, may play a larger role in the 2024 election.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Catching Up

00:38 The New Hampshire Primary

03:08 Voting in the Primaries

04:34 Support for Trump and Haley

05:46 White Evangelical Vote

06:47 The Republican Party and Trumpism

09:01 The War within the GOP

11:18 The Election Fraud Narrative

13:21 Immigration as a Key Issue

14:20 Biden's Handling of Genocide in Gaza

15:37 Foreign Policy in the Election

15:55 Upcoming Primaries

16:35 Nikki Haley's Future in the Race

17:04 Conclusion

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212. Is Deconstruction Destroying "Historic Christianity"? // Pete Enns

Wed, 24 Jan 2024 09:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Tim and Pete Enns respond to a video discussing deconstruction by Alisa Childers, Tim Barnett, and Sean McDowell. They explore the concept of a biblical worldview and its limitations and the definition and significance of deconstruction. They also discuss the role of biblical authority and the challenges of interpreting and applying scripture.

Pete and Tim explore the nuances of doubt and apologetics, the clash between modernism and postmodernism, the complexity of biblical interpretation, and the challenges of biblical inerrancy. They discuss the role of doubt in faith, the limitations of historical claims in the Bible, and the need for a nuanced understanding of biblical authority. The conversation delves into the rhetoric of war and the labeling of deconstruction as the doctrine of demons.

Takeaways

The concept of a biblical worldview can be limiting and oversimplifies the complexity of faith and theology.
Biblical authority is a topic of theological discussion and interpretation, and it is important to recognize the diverse and historical context of the Bible.
The role of personal experience and subjectivity should be acknowledged and respected in discussions of faith and theology. Doubt can play a positive role in the development of faith, and it should be embraced and explored rather than suppressed.
The interpretation of the Bible should consider the historical context and the complexities of biblical texts, rather than relying on a simplistic view of biblical inerrancy.
The church needs to address and confront issues of spiritual abuse and hold leaders accountable for their actions.
Orthopraxy, the practice of faith, is often overlooked in favor of orthodoxy, the right beliefs.
Deconstruction is a personal and often painful process that should be met with empathy and support.
The rhetoric of war and labeling deconstruction as the doctrine of demons can be harmful and divisive.
There is a need for further discussion and exploration of these topics to foster understanding and growth.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

06:48 The Concept of a Biblical Worldview

10:57 Defining Deconstruction

14:07 Deconstruction as a Threat to Christianity

22:25 Deconstruction vs. Being Biblical

28:00 The Modernist Mindset and Biblical Authority

36:23 Objective Truth Claims and Biblical Authority

43:41 The Claim of Jesus as the Only Way

48:24 The Role of Experience and Subjectivity

49:15 The Nuance of Doubt and Apologetics

51:49 The Clash Between Modernism and Postmodernism

53:43 Navigating the Historical Context of Christianity

54:38 The Relationship Between Deconstruction and Subjectivity

55:08 The Complexity of Biblical Inerrancy

56:27 The Role of Doubt in Faith

57:23 Interpreting the Bible and Understanding Biblical Authority

58:49 The Limitations of Historical Claims in the Bible

59:42 The Challenge of Biblical Inerrancy

01:01:30 The Development of Theological Thought

01:02:48 Understanding History in the Bible

01:04:10 The Purpose of History in Biblical Texts

01:06:03 The Complexity of Biblical Interpretation

01:08:49 Taking the Bible Seriously

01:14:12 Questioning the Authenticity of Faith

01:18:47 Recognizing Spiritual Abuse

01:20:39 Misunderstanding the Concept of Child Sacrifice

01:32:01 Addressing Abuse within the Church

01:36:06 The Need for Biblical Literacy and Theology

01:37:55 The Importance of Orthopraxy

01:41:39 Empathy and Support for Deconstruction

01:44:10 The Rhetoric of War and "The Doctrine of Demons"

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211. Shameless Oversharing After Purity Culture // Mattie Jo Cowsert

Mon, 22 Jan 2024 09:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this podcast, Mattie Jo Cowsert discusses her book God, Sex & Rich People: A Recovering Evangelical Testimony, with Tim. Mattie Jo explains her background in evangelicalism and the influence of purity culture on her beliefs and sexuality. She and Tim explore the need to challenge systemic issues and prioritize social justice over religious dogma.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

08:16 Questioning Faith and Reclaiming Sexuality

16:04 Deconstructing Christianity and Forming a New Moral Foundation

30:13 Reevaluating Priorities and Challenging Systemic Issues

32:23 The Control and Fear of Purity Culture

36:28 Navigating Sexual Ethics and Boundaries

01:07:23 The Importance of Communication and Planning in a Sexual Relationship

01:14:09 The Role of Communication and Honesty in a Healthy Sexual Relationship

01:16:24 The Fear of Navigating Nuance in the Evangelical Church

01:18:16 Acknowledging the Limitations of the Conversation and Addressing Sexual Abuse

01:19:20 Future Book Plans and Normalizing Conversations about Sex

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210. Evangelicals VS. Civil Rights: A History // Rev. Dr. Bobby Griffith Jr.

Fri, 19 Jan 2024 09:00:00 -0000

Summary

This conversation explores the historical context of evangelical opposition to the civil rights movement and draws parallels to contemporary rhetoric. The discussion highlights the similarities between the language used by Charlie Kirk and historical figures who opposed civil rights legislation. It also examines the theological justifications used to discredit the movement and the role of lay preaching in the civil rights movement. The conversation concludes with a reflection on the future of evangelicalism and the ongoing fight for racial justice.

Takeaways

There is a historical pattern of evangelical opposition to civil rights, with similar rhetoric and justifications used throughout history.
The language used by Charlie Kirk echoes the discourse of historical figures who opposed civil rights legislation.
Theological justifications, such as the belief in individual salvation and the idea that revival will solve racial issues, have been used to oppose civil rights.
Lay preaching played a significant role in the civil rights movement, demonstrating the power of spiritual and community-based activism.
The fight for racial justice continues, and it is important to challenge and confront racist rhetoric and ideologies within evangelicalism.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

00:29 Charlie Kirk's Smear Campaign

03:07 Historical Context: Evangelical Opposition to Civil Rights

08:45 Talking Points to Discredit the Civil Rights Movement

14:01 Charlie Kirk's Tweet about MLK

20:12 The Persistence of Racist Rhetoric

25:00 Theological Justifications for Opposition to Civil Rights

31:14 The Role of Lay Preaching in the Civil Rights Movement

33:19 The Future of Evangelicalism and the Fight for Racial Justice

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209. There is Great Love Here For You // Kevin Miguel Garcia

Wed, 17 Jan 2024 09:00:00 -0000

Summary

Kevin Garcia sits down with Tim to discuss Kevin’s book, What Makes You Bloom: Cultivating a Practice for Connecting with Your Divine Self. They explore the concepts of non-monogamy, community and divine love as healing applications.

Chapters

1:46 Intro into sexual ethics

6:32 Non-Monogamy

15:45 Communication in close relationships

23:23 Building Community outside of the Church

39:06 Inspiration for Kevin’s book

47:24 The root of suffering

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208. The MLK They Never Told You About // Jemar Tisby

Mon, 15 Jan 2024 09:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this episode Tim is joined by Dr. Jemar Tisby, author of The Color of Compromise and How To Fight Racism to discuss Martin Luther King Jr., and the forces in his life which brought him into the spotlight during the civil rights movement. Dr. Tisby explains the whitewashing of MLK today, and the need to understand his true message, which is still deeply relevant.

Takeaways

Dr. Jemar Tisby's books, 'The Color of Compromise' and 'How to Fight Racism' are raising awareness about racism and white supremacy.
Dr. Jemar Tisby is working on a new book that will further contribute to the conversation on racial justice.
The early life of MLK and how it shaped his public work.
MLK's true message and activism have been whitewashed, and it is important to understand the depth of his work and the challenges he faced.
Continued education and awareness are necessary to combat racism and promote racial justice.

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207. Trump off the Ballot EXPLAINED // Andrew L. Seidel

Wed, 10 Jan 2024 09:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Tim Whitaker interviews c about the disqualification of Donald Trump from the Colorado ballot and the definition of insurrection. They discuss the legal basis for disqualification under the 14th Amendment and the role of the courts in determining eligibility for office. They also address the argument of tyranny and the potential for violence in the upcoming 2024 election.

Takeaways

The Colorado Supreme Court disqualified Donald Trump from the state's ballot under the 14th Amendment, which prohibits insurrectionists from holding public office.
Insurrection is defined as an organized and armed uprising against authority or the operations of government, with the intent to prevent the peaceful transfer of power.
The chances of Trump being off the ballot in other states depend on the decisions of the courts and the interpretation of the 14th Amendment.
Disqualification based on insurrection is not a violation of democratic principles, but rather a safeguard against those who have violated their oath to uphold the Constitution.
The 2024 election may see increased volatility and potential acts of violence, but upholding the rule of law and defeating Trump in a landslide can help mitigate these risks.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

03:10 Disqualification from the Colorado Ballot

09:23 Definition of Insurrection

19:23 Chances of Trump Being Off the Ballot

24:20 Addressing the Tyranny Question

31:28 What to Expect in 2024

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206. Good News: Hell isn't Eternal Conscious Torment! // Derek Ryan Kubilus

Mon, 08 Jan 2024 09:00:00 -0000

Summary

In this conversation, Derek Kubilus discusses the concept of sin as the refusal to love and the importance of understanding it in a broader context. He also explores the difference between purgatory and purgation, emphasizing the idea of refinement and growth in the afterlife. Derek shares his perspective on the salvation of those who have done harm and the essence of the divine in every person. He challenges the notion of eternal damnation and highlights the need to respect the pain of others while recognizing the depth of God's love. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the cognitive dissonance of eternal damnation.

Takeaways

Sin is the refusal to love, to include, and to make space for others.
Purgatory is a Catholic concept of a holding period until one goes to heaven or hell, while purgation refers to the process of refinement and growth in the afterlife.
The salvation of those who have done harm challenges our understanding of God's love, but it is a reminder that everyone carries the essence of the divine.
Respecting the pain of others and acknowledging the depth of God's love can help navigate difficult theological questions.
The idea of eternal damnation can create cognitive dissonance and contradict the concept of a loving God.

Chapters

00:00 Understanding Sin and Refusal to Love

41:19 Purgatory vs. Purgation

43:32 The Fire of Hell and the Refusal to Love

44:54 Struggling with the Salvation of Those Who Have Done Harm

46:06 The Essence of the Divine in Every Person

47:08 The Redemption of Paul and the Refusal to Give Up on Anyone

49:11 Respecting the Pain of Others and the Depth of God's Love

51:34 The Network of Relationships in Heaven

53:41 The Inconsistency of Praising God While Others Suffer

56:07 The Cognitive Dissonance of Eternal Damnation

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205. The Shadow Religious Movement That Fueled the Insurrection

Sat, 06 Jan 2024 10:00:00 -0000

Many think that the insurrection was just about politics but this is not true. The truth is that a shadow network of Christian fundamentalists worked with the Trump administration for over a year. These networks laid the foundation that Trump was on God's side and any result other than his re-election was an attack from the devil. Dr. Matthew Taylor joins Tim Whitaker to expose them.

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203. This is the End // Tim, Noah, and Kieran

Fri, 29 Dec 2023 09:00:00 -0000

In this episode, Tim sits down with podcast producer Noah and TNE community member Kieran to discuss some of the highlights of the podcast in 2023, and how the show will continue to evolve in the new year. They also discus Project Amplify's mission to platform experts and scholars who are offering better paths forward and an alternative to the dehumanizing theological and political rhetoric filling our news feeds. Kieran also discusses his experience growing up in Catholic and Methodist circles, the shifts in his faith that led him to the work he does today, and how he discovered the TNE community.

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202. Not Your Ordinary Christmas Pageant // Tripp Fuller

Mon, 25 Dec 2023 09:00:00 -0000

In this rebroadcasted episode, Tim talks with Dr. Tripp Fuller about the differing accounts of Jesus' birth in the gospels, and what scholars and seminary students know that you should too! Dr. Fuller, discusses the virgin birth in Matthew and Luke's gospels, and how we can understand their narratives in light of the Jewish and Christian traditions they arose from.

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201. Tis the Season to Reject Christian Nationalism // Rev Nathan Empsall

Fri, 22 Dec 2023 09:00:00 -0000

On this episode Tim is joined by Rev. Nathan Empsall the director of Faithful America. Tim and Rev Nathan talk about sin, why the terminology still matters, why it's more important than ever to resist christian nationalism and where they've seen Christian nationalism defeated in the public square.

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200. Healing After Religion Hurts You // Dr. Laura Anderson

Mon, 18 Dec 2023 09:00:00 -0000

Dr. Laura Anderson, therapist, speaker and author of the new book When Religion Hurts You: Healing from Religious Trauma and the Impact of High-Control Religion, sits down with Tim to discuss her book. Dr. Anderson explains her background and why she wrote her book. Tim and Dr. Anderson break down over-used psychological terms and how they should really be applied. They also discuss the difference between spiritual abuse and adverse religious events. Lastly, they discuss what factors create high-control religion and the tools to process the ramifications of that environment.

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199. Gaza Speaks // Daniel and Yousef

Thu, 14 Dec 2023 09:00:00 -0000

In this episode, Tim sits down with Palestinian scholars and christians Daniel and Yousef to discuss the current crisis in Gaza, and the ways that American evangelical theology has failed to give us the tools to respond to it. Daniel and Yousef offer a more global perspective on Christian faith and conviction beyond the American left/right binary.

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198. A Decolonized Way To Read the Bible // Gabriel Gordon

Mon, 11 Dec 2023 09:00:00 -0000

In this episode Tim sits down with author Gabriel Gordon, to discuss how both liberals and fundamentalists inherited the same colonized method of biblical interpretation. Gabriel explains the anti-semitic aspects of enlightenment theology, and a way of reading the Bible that rejects dualism in liberal and fundamentalist circles.

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197. Gospel Coalition's Deadly Letter // Kalie May

Fri, 08 Dec 2023 09:00:00 -0000

On this episode, Tim is joined by Kalie from the center for prophetic imagination to respond to a gospel coalition article where an anonymous author wrote that they love their trans Child but loves Jesus more.

Kalie and Tim discuss why this article is so problematic and how it advocates for the harm of trans people in the name of God.

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197. The Myth of Colorblind Christianity // Jesse Curtis

Mon, 04 Dec 2023 09:00:00 -0000

Jesse Curtis joins the podcast to talk about his book The Myth of Colorblind Christianity: Evangelicals and the white supremacy in the Civil Rights Era.

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196. Reclaiming Mental Health // Kayla Felten

Fri, 01 Dec 2023 09:00:00 -0000

Tim talks to Kayla from the Reclamation Collective about navigating mental health during deconstruction and how to reclaim your autonomy.

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195. Project Amplify is Here and We NEED Your Help

Tue, 28 Nov 2023 09:00:00 -0000

After 3 years of hearing your stories and ideas, our team finally has a plan to create a new narrative for Christian civic engagement–one that is committed to the values of love, inclusivity, justice and non-dehumanization D

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194. An Altar Call for Evangelical America // Russell Moore

Mon, 27 Nov 2023 09:00:00 -0000

Russell Moore, minister, speaker and author of the new book, Losing Our Religion: An Altar Call for Evangelical America, sits down with Tim to discuss his new book. Russell explains his backstory and what led him to write his book. Tim and Russell discuss what happened after Trump’s election and our current new normal. They also discuss the church’s response to the fracture that caused many to leave conservative Evangelical spaces. Tim and Russell discuss how to call out harmful voices in the church without demonizing them. Lastly, they explore the path forward and what the future may hold for both the church and America.

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193. "Conservative" vs "Progressive" Christianity

Fri, 24 Nov 2023 09:00:00 -0000

Tim talks to Russell Johnson, pastor of Pursuit Northwest in Washington State. Tim and Russell talk about how they met, their strong disagreements and surprising areas of overlap.

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192. Responding To Mark Driscoll's Toxic Christianity

Wed, 22 Nov 2023 09:00:00 -0000

Tim and Dr. Kevin Carnahan go through a Mark Driscoll interview with Russell Johnson to unpack the misleading and at times blatantly false rhetoric said during the interview. Kevin helps us navigate what a faithful Christian Witness says to people who put their allegiance to power and control over the call of Christ.

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191. Healing the World with Rule-Breaking Kindness // Rev. Dr. Jacqui Lewis

Mon, 20 Nov 2023 09:00:00 -0000

Rev. Dr. Jacqui Lewis, pastor, speaker and author of the new book, Fierce Love: A Bold Path to Ferocious Courage and Rule Breaking-Kindness That Can Heal the World, sits down with Tim to discuss her new book. Rev. Dr. Lewis explains her background and how that led her into ministry. Tim and Rev. Dr. Lewis discuss the reason she wrote her new book and how her own church’s story inspired it. They also discuss how radical kindness can change our approach towards those who promote harm in an ethical fashion. Lastly, they discuss how to tackle complex issues the local community can’t solve.

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190. Surviving IHOP PT 2: The Skeletons in the Closet

Thu, 16 Nov 2023 09:00:00 -0000

On this episode Tim talks to Nancy and Susan, two former IHOP insiders who saw warning signs during their time with the organization. Nancy and Susan explain what’s going on now and why they believe that IHOP will prioritize the organization at the expense of alleged victims at the hands of its leader, Mike Bickle.

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189. It's Not Just A Conspiracy Theory... // Jared Stacy

Mon, 13 Nov 2023 09:00:00 -0000

In this episode, Tim sits down with Jared Stacy, American pastor and current PhD candidate in Theological Ethics at the University of Aberdeen, to discuss the history of the American evangelical church's connection to the moral majority movement in the 80's, and the deadly combination of gospel rhetoric with conservative propaganda.

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188. Deconstructing Sh**ty Gospels // Dr. Tripp Fuller

Wed, 08 Nov 2023 09:00:00 -0000

This special episode is a recording of Tripp Fuller's talk at Theology Beer Camp 2023. Tripp shares some milestones in his own deconstruction journey and asks the question: is our understanding of the gospel building crosses, or bearing them?

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187. Surviving IHOP Pt 1: Indoctrination Station

Tue, 07 Nov 2023 09:00:00 -0000

Mike Bickle, leader of the International House of Prayer has recently been accused of sexual abuse spanning decades according to a statement written by former IHOP leaders. In this first part out of a two part series Tim brings on Gracia, Tamice and Brantley, three former IHOP students to talk about their experience spending years on the inside. They discuss what drew them to IHOP, the theology and culture that kept them there and what it was like trying to live a normal life once they left.

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186. Holy Runaways From Harmful Religion // Matthias Roberts

Mon, 06 Nov 2023 09:00:00 -0000

Matthias Roberts, therapist and author of the new book, Holy Runaways: Rediscovering Faith After Being Burned by Religion, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Matthias explains his background in Evangelism and why he walked away. Tim and Matthias discuss the reason Matthias wrote his book. They also discuss how the nervous system works in relationship to religious trauma. Lastly, they discuss the possibility for healthy communities centered around Jesus and what they may look like.

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185. Christian Supremacy in the House // Matthew Taylor

Thu, 02 Nov 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Dr. Matthew Taylor joins Tim to talk about Mike Johnson’s connection to the Christian Supremacist network known as the New Apostolic Reformation whose leaders were key in orchestrating the Jan 6th insurrection.

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184. Special Message From Tim

Tue, 31 Oct 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Where is TNE headed? What should you expect of the podcast over the next few months? Tim comes on to share what's on the horizon.

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183. A History of Police Brutality // Dr. Ife Williams

Mon, 30 Oct 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Dr. Ife Williams, African American History scholar and author of the new book Police Brutality: A Philadelphia Story, sits down with Tim to discuss her book. Dr. Williams explains her background and what led her to write on the topic of police brutality. Tim and Dr. Williams discuss police brutality in America and the systemic issues that surround it. Lastly, they discuss the possible reforms that would bring meaningful change to the problem of police brutality.

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182. Theology Beer Camp Hangover Debrief // Sarah Heath

Wed, 25 Oct 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Tim Whitaker and Sarah Heath debrief from their experience at theology beer camp. They talk about the highs, the lows, the confusing moments and how communion brought up some church memories that they weren’t expecting to navigate.

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181. The Truth About "Deconstruction" Is....// Dr. Bruce Ellis Benson

Mon, 23 Oct 2023 18:30:00 -0000

Dr. Bruce Benson, philosopher, theologian, professor and author sits down with Tim to discuss the origins of deconstruction. Dr. Benson explains his background and why he chose to study philosophy. Tim and Bruce discuss the difference between analytical and continental philosophy and what discipline deconstruction falls under. They also discuss how Derrida, the father of deconstruction, has been misunderstood by current evangelical pastors. Lastly, they discuss how meaning changes or is discovered in different eras.

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180. Understanding Israel and Palestine Pt 4: A Jewish Woman Speaks

Wed, 18 Oct 2023 13:25:21 -0000

Tim and resident journalist Dan Catchpole speak to Na'ama Barak Wolfman who is a leader in the Women Wage Peace movement. Na'ama gives her insight on how devastating the attacks by Hamas were on the people of Israel. Na'ama also explains how Women Wage Peace has a broad coalition of Muslim, Christian, Jewish, and Palestinian women who are committed to working together in order to find a peaceful resolution of the current crisis that has claimed the lives of the thousands.

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179. Uncovering the Mystery of the Ordinary // Meghan Murphy-Gill

Mon, 16 Oct 2023 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode Tim sits down with Meghan Murphy-Gill: an Episcopal priest and the author of The Sacred Life of Bread: Uncovering the Mystery of an Ordinary Loaf. Meghan explains her journey from Catholicism to the Episcopal church, as well as some of the key differences between Episcopalianism and other Christian traditions. Tim and Meghan discuss what it could mean for God to be present in both deep suffering and the mundane, and how the symbol of bread can point us to valuable spiritual practices.

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178. Understanding Israel and Palestine Pt 3: A Palestinian Speaks

Fri, 13 Oct 2023 08:00:00 -0000

In the last part of this series Tim brings on Daniel Bannoura a Christian Palestinian who grew up in the West Bank and who is now pursuing his PHD in America. Daniel gives Tim an insider's perspective about what it's like to live in the West Bank and to have friends in the Gaza Strip. Daniel and Tim talk about the Christian ethic of loving your enemies and what that means living under the occupation of the Israeli Defense Force. Daniel shares some history on Hamas and how they see this conflict and Daniel also explains how American Christians too often erase the lived reality of millions of Palestinians and engage in the dehumanization of the "other".

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177. Understanding Israel and Palestine Pt 2: Christian Zionism

Thu, 12 Oct 2023 08:00:00 -0000

In part two of our three part series, Dr. Daniel Hummel joins Tim to talk about Christian Zionism. They discuss what it is, where it came from and the theology that underpins it that has to lead to strong unwavering American support for the nation state of Israel. Dr. Hummel has written a book and several peer reviewed articles on the history of Christian Zionism and is a leading expert in the field.

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176. Understanding Israel and Palestine Pt 1: Blame the British

Tue, 10 Oct 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Over the weekend Hamas launched a surprise attack on Israel leaving hundreds dead and many more wounded. Hamas has taken prisoners and Israel has retaliated by ordering the complete siege of Gaza. How did we get here? What is the history that undergirds the conflict we are seeing today?

This is part one of a three part series hoping to give you a better understanding of the dynamics and history that lead to where we are today. Dr. Kevin Carnahan joins Tim on the podcast to show us how European Imperialism laid the ground work for the conflict that has taken the lives of thousands of men, women and children.

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175. Defending Democracy from Its Christian Enemies // Dr. David P. Gushee

Mon, 09 Oct 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Dr. David Gushee, professor, scholar and author of the new book, Defending Democracy from Its Christian Enemies, sits down with Tim to discuss his new book. Dr. Gushee explains his background and why he wrote his new book. Tim and Dr. Gushee discuss why he uses a different term for Christian Nationalism to describe the movement happening around the world. Tim and Dr. Gushee discuss how authoritarianism differs from democracy and how easy it is to transition from democracy into authoritarian regimes. Lastly, they discuss the Christian traditions that promoted democratic movements throughout American history.

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174. Andy Stanley Breaks the Internet // Zach Lambert

Fri, 06 Oct 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Andy Stanley's Church, North Point, hosted a conference put on by Embracing the Journey called Unconditional. The conference was aimed at parents of Queer children helping them navigate a better way forward in their love and affirmation for their kids without compromising their commitment to following Jesus. This triggered the Brovangelicals and they responded in force. Pastor Zach Lamber joins Tim Whitaker to respond to some of the critics who attended the Unconditional Conference Hosted by North Point Church. Were their assessments accurate?

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173. How to Break Free from White Supremacy // Caroline J. Sumlin

Mon, 02 Oct 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Caroline J. Sumlin, educator, speaker and author of the new book, We’ll All Be Free: How a Culture of White Supremacy Devalues Us and How We Can Reclaim Our True Worth, sits down with Tim to discuss her book. Caroline explains her background and why she decided to write her book. Tim and Caroline discuss the disparities she encountered teaching in Washington D.C. schools between predominately black schools and suburban white schools. They also discuss the definition of white supremacy. Lastly, they discuss how white supremacy harms everyone.

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172. I'm an Ex-Pastor and Happier Than Ever // Brian Recker

Thu, 28 Sep 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Ex pastor Brian Recker joins the live stream to talk about why he left his job as a pastor and what life is like after evangelicalism.

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171. Dave Ramsey's Total Money Takeover // Amy Fritz

Mon, 25 Sep 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Amy Fritz, host of The Untangled Faith podcast, sits down with Tim to discuss her story. Amy gives some of her background. Tim and Amy discuss how her husband came to work for Dave Ramsey. They also discuss the red flags Amy and her husband began to see. Tim and Amy discuss the scandals that now plague Dave Ramsay’s ministry. Lastly, they discuss the resulting issues for Amy and her husband after her husband left Dave Ramsay’s company.

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169. Is Christianity Inherently Toxic? // Dan Koch

Mon, 18 Sep 2023 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode Tim joins Dan Koch from You Have Permission Podcast to discuss the question: "Is Christianity Inherently Toxic?". Tim and Dan explain how the discussion was prompted by a Pete Enns video on the topic. Dan offers his thoughts on why Christianity can be compared to beer, and explains how reputable research has demonstrated a number of significant benefits to religion, when disconnected from spiritual abuse.

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168. The Late Great Rapture Theology // Daniel G. Hummel

Mon, 11 Sep 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Dr. Daniel Hummel, scholar, minister and author of the new book, The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism: How the Evangelical Battle Over the End Times Shaped a Nation, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Dr. Hummel gives his background and why he decided to write a book on Dispensationalism. Tim and Dr. Hummel discuss what Premillenial Dispensationalism is. They also discuss the history of the movement. Tim and Dr. Hummel discuss how influential Dispensationalism is in our current culture. Lastly, they discuss how conspiratorial thinking has woven together with modern day pop Dispensationalism.

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167. Make Reformed Theology Great Again? // Travis McMaken & Tripp Fuller

Fri, 08 Sep 2023 08:00:00 -0000

John Macarthur, Paul Washer, Matt Chandler, Voddie Baucham, Mark Driscoll before he became a MAGA Pentocostal salesman. These might be names you associate with the Reformed tradition. But what if there’s more to being Reformed than God predestining most people to Hell and some people to Heaven? Theologian W. Travis McMaken and Tripp Fuller join Tim to talk about why we shouldn’t throw Reformed theology out just yet.

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166. American Idolatry: Betraying the Gospel for Power // Dr. Andrew L. Whitehead

Mon, 04 Sep 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Dr. Andrew Whitehead, sociologist, scholar and author of the new book, American Idolatry: How Christian Nationalism Betrays the Gospel and Threatens the Church, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Dr. Whitehead gives some background about himself and his research. He and Tim discuss the reason he wrote his new book about Christian Nationalism. Tim and Dr. Whitehead discuss different aspects of Christian Nationalism, like racism and the considerable amount of power white Evangelicals have, in the movement. They also discuss how a fringe movement can be so influential. Last, they address how to combat Christian Nationalism.

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165. Bibles, Ballots, and the Liturgy of Politics // Kaitlyn Schiess

Mon, 28 Aug 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Kaitlyn Schiess, theologian, cohost of Holy Post podcast and author of the new book, The Ballot and the Bible: How Scripture Has Been Used and Abused in American Politics and Where Do We Go From Here, sits down with Tim to discuss the book. Kaitlyn explains her background in Evangelism and how she eventually disentangled her faith. Tim and Kaitlyn discuss her book and why she decided to write it. They also discuss how the way we read the Bible creates the majority of our issues around politics . Lastly, Tim and Kaitlyn explore the path forward and how small changes can produce larger ones within Evangelism.

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164. When "Religious Freedom" Really Means Privilege // Andrew L. Seidel and Alyssa

Mon, 21 Aug 2023 08:00:00 -0000

TNE community member Alyssa cohosts today with Tim as they interview Andrew Seidel, attorney, activist and author of American Crusade: How the Supreme Court is Weaponizing Religious Freedom. Andrew explains his background as an attorney and activist for Freedom From Religion Foundation. Tim, Alyssa and Andrew talk about how the Supreme Court was weaponized by conservative justices to support religious right causes. They discuss specific cases that have been used by the court system to advance Christian Nationalist causes. Lastly, they discuss a path forward to fight Christian Nationalism.

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163. Responding to Bad Apologetics // Billie Hoard

Thu, 17 Aug 2023 09:00:00 -0000

Tim Whitaker brings on his friend Billie Hoard to respond to a YouTube video of Christian Apologists Frank Turek and Melissa Dougherty talking about the danger of the “trans” agenda. This audio was pulled from our live YouTube Response to if you want to see the video check it out below!

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162. How to Human // Carlos Whittaker

Mon, 14 Aug 2023 11:35:00 -0000

Carlos Whittaker, speaker, musician social media content creator and author of the new book, How to Human: Three Ways to Share Life Beyond What Distracts, Divides and Disconnects Us, sits down with Tim to discuss his new book. Carlos explains his background in Evangelism and how he came on staff at churches like North Point. Tim and Carlos discuss when he began to see racism in the white Evangelical churches he attended. Tim and Carlos discuss how he became a CCM artist, what made him leave and how his first speaking gig caused him to loose a third of his followers. Lastly, Tim and Carlos discuss how to help be both an advocate of marginalized communities but also change the minds of those who aren’t.

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161. Resistance: Fighting Fascism Inside and Out of the Church // Lenny Duncan

Mon, 07 Aug 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Lenny Duncan, former pastor, scholar and author of the new book, Dear Revolutionaries: A Field Guide for a World Beyond the Church, sits down with Tim to discuss their new book. Lenny describes their background in Lutheranism and how they left their pastoral position. Tim and Lenny discuss how white progressive denominations failed marginalized communities especially during the pandemic. They also discuss the background of Martin Luther and how it’s not possible to separate the secular from the religious. Tim and Lenny lastly discuss Christian fascism in America and what Christians should do to combat this ideology.

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160. Tasters, Stained Glass and Dog Vomit // Tripp Fuller and Tim Whitaker

Fri, 04 Aug 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Tim and Tripp Visited Springfield Missouri in July to scope out the location for Theology Beer Camp. While there, they did a live podcast and drank beer.

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158. Leaving "Left Behind" Behind // Dr. Scot McKnight

Mon, 31 Jul 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Dr. Scot McKnight, professor, theologian and author of the new book Revelation for the Rest of Us: A Prophetic Call to Follow Jesus as a Dissident Disciple, sits down with Tim to discuss his new book. Dr. McKnight explains his background in fundamental Evangelism. He also explains what caused him to deconstruct. Tim and Dr. McKnight discuss what prompted him to write about Revelation. They also discuss what surprised him in studying Revelation. Tim and Dr. McKnight discuss the problems with a literal reading of Revelation. Lastly, they discuss how Christian Nationalism aligns itself with the empire John criticizes instead of aligning with the Way of the Lamb.

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157. Rejecting The Diabolical Trinity // Mark Karris

Mon, 24 Jul 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Dr. Mark Karris, therapist and author of the book The Diabolical Trinity: Healing Religious Trauma from a Wrathful God, Tormenting Hell, and a Sinful Self, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Dr. Karris explains his background and how he ended up in the church. Tim and Dr. Karris discuss his reasons for writing the book and his own deconstruction. They also discuss the psychology of hell and a sinful self. Tim and Dr. Karris discuss religious trauma and how it isn’t widely understood. They also discuss ways to combat religious trauma’s effect on the nervous system. Lastly, Tim and Dr. Karris discuss resources for those wanting to gain tools to deal with their own religious trauma.

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156. I'm Finding My Voice, I Won't Shut Up // Ally Henny

Mon, 17 Jul 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Ally Henny, minister, podcast host and author of the new book, I Won’t Shut Up: Finding Your Voice When the World Tries to Silence You, sits down with Tim to discuss her book. Ally explains her background in black churches and her time in majority white Pentecostal churches. Tim and Ally discuss what the Episcopal denomination is. They also discuss what prompted Ally to write her book. Tim and Ally discuss the silencing of black women’s voices in white Evangelical spaces. Lastly, Ally gives a message to black women in majority white Evangelical spaces.

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155. Evangelical Ableism // Will Harrison

Mon, 10 Jul 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Will Harrison, therapist and moderator for TNE’s private Facebook group, talks with Tim about ableism in the church. Will explains his background and disability and when he began to deconstruct. Will and Tim discuss how the Evangelical church addresses ableism and treats those with disabilities. They also define ableism and how it makes navigation of faith in Evangelism difficult. Lastly, Tim and Will discuss how TNE can better provide a safer space for those who have disabilities.

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154. We're Going BACK to Church?! // Tim and Noah

Fri, 07 Jul 2023 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode Tim and Noah sit down to process their current thoughts on church....and maybe going back?

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153. The Evangelicals You Never Heard Of // Dr. Isaac Sharp

Mon, 03 Jul 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Dr. Isaac Sharp, scholar on the history of Evangelicalism and author of the new book, The Other Evangelicals: A Story of Liberal, Black, Progressive, Feminist, and Gay Christians and The Movement That Pushed Them Out, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Dr. Sharp explains his background in Evangelicalism and why he wrote his new book. Tim and Dr. Sharp discuss how Evangelicals are defined. They also discuss the history of Evangelicalism often left out of white conservative Evangelical narratives. Lastly, they discuss the power struggle within Evangelicalism for control of the definition of what it means to be Christian.

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152. Your Patriarchy is Reckless // Pastor Mike Walrond

Thu, 29 Jun 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Tim posted a clip of Pastor Mike Warlond that went viral so Tim invited Pastor Mike on to talk. They talk about the Bible and Bibliolatry, the history of White Evangelicalism in America and how to stay humble and accountable running a mega church in Harlem NYC.

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151. The Limits of Apologetics // Sean McDowell

Mon, 26 Jun 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Dr. Sean McDowell, professor, apologist and podcast host sits down with Tim to discuss timely issues of doctrine and the faith. Dr. McDowell explains some of his background and how he became an apologist. Tim and Dr. McDowell discuss the primary doctrine needed for salvation. They also discuss the idea of objective truth in Christianity. Tim and Dr. McDowell discuss the mystery of the gospel and the apologetic industry. Lastly, the discuss sexual ethics role in salvation.

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150. I went to Re-Awaken America // Amanda Tyler

Wed, 21 Jun 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Amanda Tyler, executive director of the Baptist Joint Committee, an organization committed to ensuring the religious freedom of ALL Americans shares her experience attending the far right Re-Awaken America tour. A tour that travels the country to wake patriots up to danger of the deep state and the plot to overthrow America's Christian heritage.

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149. Fooled by White Jesus // Tamice Spencer-Helms

Mon, 19 Jun 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Tamice Spencer-Helms, speaker, theologian and author of the book, Faith Unleavened: The Wilderness

Between Trayvon Martin and George Floyd, sits down with Tim to discuss her book. Tamice

explains her background in the black church and how she ended up at a white church. Tim and

Tamice discuss how white Jesus represented the system of whiteness in the church. Tim and Tamice discuss

the definition of whiteness. Lastly, they discuss how white Christians can become effective allies to black Americans.

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148. Jesus v. Evangelicals // Dr. Constantine Campbell

Mon, 12 Jun 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Dr. Constantine Campbell, New Testament scholar, documentary host and author of the book, Jesus v. Evangelicals: A Biblical Critique of a Wayward Movement, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Dr. Campbell explains his background in Evangelicalism and how he decided to write a book about American Evangelism. Tim and Dr. Campbell discuss Christian Nationalism in Evangelicalism. They also discuss the causes for issues that have risen from celebrity pastors. Lastly, Tim and Dr. Campbell discuss the path forward for Evangelism to change.

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147. Surviving Hellsong // Janice and Tiff

Mon, 05 Jun 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Have you seen the recent Hillsong documentary on FX The Secrets of Hillsong? Tim brings on Janice and Tiff who were both featured in the documentary to get their unfiltered thoughts about the documentary, what it did well, and where it missed the mark.

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146. I Went to a Right Wing Pastor's Summit for Three Days // Tim Whitaker

Fri, 02 Jun 2023 16:00:00 -0000

Charlie Kirk, the founder of Turning Point USA and Turning Point Faith hosted over a thousand pastors in Nashville, Tennessee uniting them around "tyrannical" COVID restrictions and the belief that the Church is under attack in America. This event hosted dozens of speakers all reinforcing these beliefs. Tim Whitaker from the New Evangelicals attended the event to listen to what was said on stage and to talk to people. Here's the recap.

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145. Decolonizing Your Deconstruction // Kristian A. Smith

Mon, 29 May 2023 04:00:00 -0000

Kristian A. Smith, online pastor, podcast host, social media content creator and author sits down with Tim to discuss his experience in the black church tradition. Kristian explains his background and what led him to deconstruct. Tim and Kristian discuss racism in both white and black churches. They also discuss decolonizing work that needs to be done in both white and black churches. Lastly, Tim and Kristian unpack privilege in both white and black churches.

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144. When the Saints Come Flying In // Joseph Yoo

Tue, 23 May 2023 17:53:37 -0000

Joseph Yoo, pastor and author of the new book, When The Saints Come Flying In, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Joseph explains his background. Tim and Joseph discuss how Joseph transitioned from being an ordained Methodist pastor to pastoring an Episcopal church. Tim and Joseph discuss the idea for his book. Lastly, Tim and Joseph discuss the issue of Christian Nationalism and how to resist it in a non-dehumanizing way.

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143. Why You Don't Want A Biblical Marriage // Jennifer Bird

Tue, 23 May 2023 17:53:27 -0000

In this episode, Tim sits down with Jennifer Bird, PHD to discuss her research on the concept of marriage in the Bible. Dr. Bird explains how analyzing the genre and cultural context of the Bible challenges the validity of evangelical proof-texts for "biblical marriage" theology

Dr. Bird also discusses why the words "husband" and "wife" don't belong in our English translations of Genesis, and why the Biblical depiction of marriage is driven by ownership, rather than love.

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142. I'm a Conservative Christian but Agree with You // Matt Matias

Wed, 10 May 2023 08:00:00 -0000

On this episode of the podcast Matt Matias owner of Memes4Jesus, one of the largest meme accounts on the internet comes on the podcast to talk about being a conservative christian but seeing the major rot in evangelical institutions. Matt and Tim talk about the world of memes, the recent meme wars and how Matt reconciles his traditional sexual ethic with his admission that the Church has caused great harm to the Queer community.

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141. Pete Ruins Quantum Physics // with Pete Enns

Mon, 08 May 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Dr. Pete Enns, theologian, scholar, podcast host of The Bible for Normal People and Faith for Normal People, and author of his new book, Curveball: When Your Faith Takes Turns You Never Saw Coming or How I Stumbled and Tripped My Way Into Finding a Bigger God, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Pete explains where the title of his book originated. Tim and Pete discuss different themes in the book like the various Biblical perspectives that contradict uniformity of theology, science and its intersection with theology, why understanding that the Bible isn't historical or scientific frees us to find new understanding of God and how quantum physics shows us the relational nature of all things and how God's energy subsists all things. Lastly, Tim and Pete discuss the afterlife.

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140. Death to Deconstruction??? // with Joshua Porter

Mon, 01 May 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Josh Porter, musician, pastor and author of the new book Death to Deconstruction: Reclaiming Faithfulness as an Act of Rebellion, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Josh explains his background in evangelicalism and now it led him to the music he was involved with for many years. Tim and Josh discuss what led him to write his book. They also discuss both the controversial and provocative aspects of the book. Lastly, Tim and Josh discuss where he is in the Christian tradition

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139. Turning Guns into Plows /W Shane Claiborne

Thu, 27 Apr 2023 09:00:00 -0000

Author and activist Shane Claiborne joins Tim on the podcast to talk about Shane's newest book Rethinking Life and about their recent trip to Nashville, TN to protest for gun legislation

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137. Why God Needs Humanity // with Thomas Jay Oord

Mon, 17 Apr 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Dr. Thomas Jay Oord, scholar and author of the books, God Can't: How to Believe in God After Abuse, Tragedy and Other Evils, and Open and Relational Theology, sits down with Tim to discuss Open and Relational Theology. Dr. Oord explains his background in Evangelism. Tim and Dr. Oord discuss Open Theology. Tim and Dr. Oord discuss, the power of God, defining the love of God, and explaining God's relationship to evil. Lastly, Tim and Dr. Oord discuss God's desires.

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136. Jesus the Peacemaker vs. Jesus the Executioner // with Bart Ehrman

Mon, 10 Apr 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Dr. Bart Ehrman, scholar, professor, social media content creator, and author or the new book Armageddon: What the Bible Really Says About the End, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Dr. Ehrman explains his background in Christianity and his departure from it. Tim and Dr. Ehrman discuss the reason for the new book's subject matter. Tim and Dr. Ehrman discuss what type of Biblical literature Revelation is and what apocalyptic literature is. Dr. Ehrman explains the controversies in the book of Revelation and why they are important. Lastly, Tim and Dr. Ehrman discuss how the way Revelation is read can be problematic theologically.

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136. You Can't Vote Democrat and Be a Christian? /w Tripp Fuller

Wed, 05 Apr 2023 08:00:00 -0000

On this special episode Tripp Fuller and Tim respond to a podcast episode between Jonny Root (Turning Point Faith) and Virgil Walker (G3 Ministries) discussing if you can be a democrat and be a christian.

Tim and Tripp walk through the entire podcast giving their own commentary as they go along.

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135. Unspeakable: How Bad Theology Enables Abuse // with Jessica Willis Fisher

Mon, 03 Apr 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Jessica Willis Fisher, musician, former reality television star and author of the book Unspeakable: Surviving My Childhood and Finding My Voice, sits down with Tim to discuss her book. Jessica explains her background on reality television and as an entertainer. Jessica and Tim discuss what was happening inside her family growing up. They also discuss how the abuse she experienced was allowed to continue because of the theology she was taught. Lastly, Tim and Jessica discuss how she is processing her experiences and what she believes now.

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134. The Bible is Clear: Welcome the Immigrant // with Josh Sherif and Sarah Tierney

Mon, 27 Mar 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Josh Sherif, pastor and author, and Sarah Tierney, author and mental health therapist, sit down with Tim to discuss their book, The Stranger at our Shore: How Immigrants and Refugees Strengthen the Church. Josh and Sarah both explain their backgrounds: Josh as an Egyptian immigrant and Sarah as the daughter of missionaries. Tim, Sarah and Josh discuss the premise behind their book. Tim and Josh discuss his story as an immigrant in the Evangelical church. Tim, Sarah and Josh discuss how politics has a bigger impact on the church than Jesus. Lastly, they discuss how to talk with conservative Evangelicals about scriptural treatment of immigrants.

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133. WTF is "Disgust Theology" // with Billie and Paul Hoard

Mon, 20 Mar 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Billie and Paul Hoard, authors of Eucontamination: A Christian Study in the Logic of Disgust and Contamination sit down with Tim to discuss their journal article. Billie and Paul summarize their background and how that led them to research disgust and write their article. Tim, Billie and Paul discuss what disgust is and how it is emotionalized. Tim, Billie and Paul discuss how disgust became a part of purity culture. They also discuss how the church and far right media weaponize disgust against the LGBTQIA+ community. Lastly, they discuss how to deal with the disgust the church uses against the LGBTQIA+ community.

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132. Let's Just Say It: You've Been Trained Not to See the World // with Anthea Butler

Mon, 13 Mar 2023 08:00:00 -0000

Dr. Anthea Butler, professor and author of the book, White Evangelical Racism: The Politics of Morality in America, sits down with Tim to discuss the book. Dr. Butler explains some of her background and how she became a historian. Tim and Dr. Butler discuss how her book came about. Tim and Dr. Butler discuss the dynamics of white Evangelicalism with far right groups. They also discuss how to resist the Christian Nationalism coming from white Evangelical spaces. Lastly, Tim and Dr. Butler discuss the Eagles.

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130. Penis Theology: His Sacrifice is Your Pleasure // With Sheila Gregoire and Rebecca Lindenbach

Fri, 03 Mar 2023 12:45:00 -0000

Authors of the Great Sex Rescue and mother daughter duo, Scheila Gregoir and Rebecca Lindenbach come on the show for an emergency episode to talk about the Gospel Coalition's recent piece titled Sex Won't Save You (But It Points to the One Who Will) By Josh Butler. This episode does contain sexually explicit language but is an important dialogue about the penis centered sexual ethic many in the Evangelical culture have.

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129. Asbury: A Historical Perspective // with Bradley Onishi, Leah Payne, and Matthew Taylor

Wed, 01 Mar 2023 09:00:00 -0000

In this episode, Tim sits down with Bradley Onishi from Straight White American Jesus, talking about the Asbury Revival from an academic perspective, with scholar of history Leah Payne, and scholar of religion Matthew Taylor.

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128. Public Schools and the Power Worshippers // with Katherine Stewart

Mon, 27 Feb 2023 09:00:00 -0000

Katherine Stewart, journalist and author of the book, Power Worshippers, sits down with Tim to discuss Christian Nationalism and Good News Clubs in public schools. Katherine Stewart explains her background and why she began investigating Good News Clubs (part of Child Evangelism). Tim and Katherine talk about what she found in her investigation about the Good News Clubs getting permission to be in public schools and what happened when there was push back by certain schools. Tim and Katherine then discuss how parents were tricked into sending their kids to Good News Clubs and how this ties into the Christian Nationalist agenda. Lastly, what can people do to combat Christian Nationalism?

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127. The Resurrection: Evidence That Demands a Scholar // with John Dominic Crossan

Thu, 23 Feb 2023 09:00:00 -0000

In this episode, Tim sits down with renowned historical scholar John Dominic Crossan to discuss the historical Jesus, and how the ongoing revelations of historical critical research and science are essentially interconnected with the art of theology. Dom offers his perspective on how proximity to empire has influenced the trajectory of Christian doctrine, and how he understands the meaning of Jesus' life, ministry, and death. Dom also introduces his perspective on Jesus' resurrection, and why he believes his perspective is more faithful to the early Christian tradition. Dom frames his view on resurrection with the provocative statement: metaphor creates reality.

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126. Can We Find Community in Deconstruction? // with Jess Herberger

Mon, 20 Feb 2023 09:00:00 -0000

Jess Herberger, a social media content creator, intersection of history and the Bible teacher and the author of her latest book, Life Surrendered, sits down with Tim to discuss her book, and online community: The Table. Jess explains her background and how she came to both study and teach the bible in the spaces where she is now. Tim and Jess discuss her online community and how she approaches the bible. Tim and Jess discuss how to deal with more conservative Evangelicals and the bible. Lastly, Tim and Jess discuss how those deconstructing can cultivate community.

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125. Why You Should Give a Sh!t About Lent // With Diana Butler Bass and Tripp Fuller

Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:00:00 -0000

Diana Butler Bass and Tripp Fuller join Tim to talk about their upcoming class Empty Altars: American Saints in a Cynical Age aimed at exploring the season of Lent. Why does lent matter? What do you do with the Church calendar as an evangelical who was never exposed to it? How does death play a role in lent? Tim, Diana and Tripp dive headfirst into these and more

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124. Revival Has Come! Christian Nationalism's Prophets and Apostles // with Dr. Matthew Taylor

Mon, 13 Feb 2023 09:00:00 -0000

Dr. Matthew Taylor, professor and author, sits down with Tim to discuss the New Apostolic Reformation and its ties to Christian Nationalism. Dr. Taylor explains his background in Evangelism and his education. Tim and Dr. Taylor explain what the New Apostolic Reformation is. Dr. Taylor and Tim discuss those prominent figures in Christian Nationalism and their intersection with NAR. Dr. Taylor and Tim discuss the theology of NAR and why it's created so much interest in Christian Nationalism. Lastly, Tim and Dr. Taylor break down the differences between Christian nation supporters and Christian Supremacy.

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123. Is There Hope for Orphaned Believers? // with Sara Billups

Mon, 06 Feb 2023 09:00:00 -0000

In this episode, Tim interviews Sara Billups to discuss her book: Orphaned Believers: How a Generation of Christian Exiles Can Find Their Way Home. Sar shares her story of leaving consumerist evangelical culture behind, to rediscover Jesus and faith based community.

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122. At the Intersexion of Misogyny and Homophobia // with Cynthia Vacca Davis

Mon, 30 Jan 2023 09:00:00 -0000

Cynthia Vacca Davis, professor, social media content creator and author of the book Intersexion, sits down with Tim to discuss the book. Cynthia explains her background in Christian spaces. Tim and Cynthia discuss how she met the person who was the inspiration for the book. Tim and Cynthia explain her struggle at a Christian University as an LGBTQIA affirming professor. Lastly, Cynthia explains where she is now and how she's found the community she has.

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121. Reclaiming My Theology // with Brandi Miller

Mon, 23 Jan 2023 09:00:00 -0000

Brandi Miller, chief storyteller for Quest Church, op-ed writer for the Huffington Post, and podcast creator for "Reclaiming My Theology", sits down with Tim to discuss her journey. Brandi explains some of her background. Tim and Brandi discuss her conversion to Christianity and her deconstruction journey. Tim and Brandi discuss what she's doing now. Lastly, Tim and Brandi examine how conservative media influenced Conservative Evangelicals and how white supremacy underlies that journey.

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120. Deconstructing Power Parenting // with Bekah McNeel

Mon, 16 Jan 2023 09:00:00 -0000

Bekah McNeel, journalist and author of the book Bringing Up Kids When Church Lets You Down, sits down with Tim to discuss parenting in deconstruction. Bekah gives some of her background in Evangelism. Tim and Bekah discuss how to talk to children about death. They also discuss how to talk to kids about God. Bekah and Tim discuss wise parenting versus power or control parenting. Lastly, they discuss how to talk to your children about sex.

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119. The Evangelical Complicity in the Brazilian Insurrection // With Dr. Joao Chaves

Fri, 13 Jan 2023 09:00:00 -0000

What the hell happened in Brazil on Sunday January 8th 2023 and why did it look like the Jan 6th Insurrection in 2021? Tim sits down with Joao Chaves who is a professor of Theology and author of The Global Mission of the Jim Crow South: Southern Baptist Missions and the Shaping of Latin American Evangelicalism to answer that question and more.

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118. Myth-Busting Hell // with Keith Giles

Mon, 09 Jan 2023 09:00:00 -0000

Keith Giles, former pastor and author of his new book, Sola Mysterium, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Keith explains his background and how he left the SBC. Tim and Keith discuss how he became a writer and his path towards the view of Universal Reconciliation. Keith and Tim discuss the verses where Jesus talks about what Evangelism believes is “hell” . Keith and Tim next debate Universal Reconciliation and Annihilation. Lastly, Tim and Keith discuss the cultural aspects of why Universal Reconciliation is difficult to fathom in American cultural understanding of justice.

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117. History Meets Theology // With Leah Robinson and Diana Butler Bass

Thu, 05 Jan 2023 09:00:00 -0000

On this episode Tim shares his interview with Leah Robinson and Diana Butler Bass that took place during Theology Beer Camp in October.

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116. Preparing For War // With Bradley Onishi

Mon, 02 Jan 2023 09:00:00 -0000

Dr. Brad Onishi, associate professor, scholar, co-host of the Straight White American Jesus podcast and author of the new book Preparing for War: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism- and What Comes Next, sits down with Tim to discuss his book.

Brad explains his background and how he came to write the book. Tim and Brad discuss what prompted him to write his new book. Tim and Brad discuss the evolution of Christian Nationalism. Lastly, Tim and Brad discuss where to go from the current climate of Christian Nationalism to addressing Evangelicals in a non-dehumanizing way.

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115. This Is Our Last Podcast.....of 2022 // with Tim and Noah

Fri, 30 Dec 2022 15:37:44 -0000

In this episode Tim and Noah sit down to discuss some of the major events TNE covered in 2022, celebrate the ways the community continues to hold space for those navigating their own faith journeys, and share how the year is shaping TNE's focus for 2023.

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113. A Womanist Christmas // With Dr. Angela Parker

Fri, 23 Dec 2022 09:00:00 -0000

Dr. Angela Parker, seminary professor, Womanist theologian and author, sits down with Tim to discuss a Womanist Theological interpretation of the Christmas Story. Dr. Parker explains her background. Tim and Dr. Parker talk about the theology of Christmas and the four women mentioned in Jesus' genealogy. Tim and Dr. Parker discuss the difference between the exalted Christ in white theology and the humanity of Christ in Womanist Theology. Lastly, Tim and Dr. Parker discuss hope in the Christmas Story from a Womanist perspective.

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Mon, 19 Dec 2022 21:49:46 -0000

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112. Celebrities For Jesus // with Katelyn Beaty

Mon, 12 Dec 2022 09:28:02 -0000

Katelyn Beaty, journalist, editor and author of the book Celebrities For Jesus: How Personas, Platforms and Profits are Hurting the Church, sits down with Tim to discuss her book. Katelyn explains her background in Evangelicalism. Tim and Katelyn discuss her book and how celebrity pastors have become such a part of Evangelical culture. They discuss how celebrity pastors are created and how the book publishing industry is complicit. Lastly, they discuss prevention of the scandals we have seen in recent years.

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111. We Accidentally Interviewed Doug Wilson // With Dan Catchpole

Fri, 09 Dec 2022 09:00:00 -0000

A few months ago, Tim asked journalist Dan Catchpole to do a deep dive on Doug Wilson for an upcoming podcast episode and to educate the TNE community on who Doug is and why we believe his christianity should be resisted.

Then Dan told Tim that he scheduled an interview with Doug Wilson…this episode is about Doug Wilson and that interview.

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110. Run, Matt Chandler, Run // With the Bodies Behind the Bus

Tue, 06 Dec 2022 09:00:00 -0000

On this special episode, Tim brought on Jay and Johnna from the Bodies Behind the Bus podcast to talk about Matt Chandler's return to ministry and why they are concerned about the lack of transparency from the Village Church.

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109. A Theology of Consent // with Dr. Jonathan Foster

Mon, 05 Dec 2022 09:00:00 -0000

Dr. Jonathan Foster, podcast host, theologian and author of the new book, Consent Theology, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Jonathan explains his background and what led him to change his beliefs. Tim and Jonathan discuss Mimetic Theory and what led him to merge it with Open and Relational Theology. They discuss how Jonathan sees God now. Lastly, they discuss how to help the audience approach this different way of viewing God.

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108. I Guess We Just Never Really Believed.... // with Tim and Noah

Fri, 02 Dec 2022 05:37:59 -0000

In this episode Tim and Noah sit down to discuss Donald Trump's recent engagement with Nick Fuentes, and why the failure of Evangelical thought leaders to condemn the situation matters. Tim and Noah also discuss a trending clip of pastor Tim Ross sharing his opinion on "deconstructionists".

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107. Being Queer Is My Super Power // with Coach Yeamah Logan

Mon, 28 Nov 2022 09:00:00 -0000

Coach Yeamah Logan, social media content creator, sexuality coach and author of the book, Heal Fear and Shame About Your Sexual Orientation, sits down with Tim to discuss her profession and her faith. Coach Yeamah explains her background and what led her to pursue a career in coaching sexuality or sexual orientation. Tim and Coach Yeamah discuss her faith and the impact it had on her eventual coming out. They also discuss the common reasons why people seek out her services. Lastly, Tim and Yeamah discuss the Club Q shooting and how those becoming affirming can advocate for the queer community.

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106. Truth Over Tribe // with Patrick Miller

Mon, 21 Nov 2022 09:00:00 -0000

Patrick Miller, pastor, social media content creator and author of the book Truth Over Tribe: Pledging Allegiance to the Lamb not the Donkey or the Elephant, sits down with Tim to discuss the book. Patrick explains his background and how he got the idea for the book. Tim and Patrick discuss understanding the difference between what is required by faith in Jesus and the idea of Christian Nationalism. Tim and Patrick discuss how populism works within politics. They also discuss what tribalism means and why our brains are wired to be tribal. Lastly, Tim and Patrick discuss how to approach Christian Nationalists and how we should approach politics as Jesus followers.

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105. Death, Grief, and Experiencing God // with J.S. Park

Mon, 14 Nov 2022 09:00:00 -0000

J.S. Park, former pastor, hospital chaplain, social media content creator and author, sits down with Tim to discuss his work as a hospital chaplain. Joon explains his background and how he became a hospital chaplain. Tim and Joon discuss how difficult it was to be a hospital chaplain in Florida during Covid. Tim and Joon discuss how being both with interfaith chaplains impacted him during this time. They also discuss the harmful things pastors say to those in traumatic situations. Lastly, Tim and Joon discuss how Western society doesn't handle death well.

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104. Jesus (and Jerry) are watching // with Billy Corben

Wed, 09 Nov 2022 08:20:00 -0000

Documentary Filmmaker Bill Corben joins Tim on the show to talk about his new film, God Forbid which documents the Falwell's sex scandal and their insatiable quest for power all in the name of God and family values.

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103. A Jew Speaks to Christians // with Rabbi Michael Harvey

Mon, 07 Nov 2022 09:00:00 -0000

Rabbi Michael Harvey, social media content creator and author of the book Let's Talk: A Rabbi Speaks to Christians, sits down with Tim to discuss his book. Rabbi Mike explains his background and why he wrote the book. Tim and Rabbi Mike discuss Judaism as an ethno-religion. Tim and Rabbi Mike discuss the different sects in Judaism. Tim and Rabbi Mike break down Anti-Jewish ideas in the NT and discuss the rise in Anti-Semiticism in America. Lastly, Rabbi Mike gives some advice to Christians about understanding Judaism.

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102. Twitter, Pelosi, and the Dehumanization of Both // with Riley, Tim, and Noah

Fri, 04 Nov 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Tim, Riley, and Noah discuss some recent trending tweets from Christian Nationalists on Twitter.

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101. The Wreckage Christian Nationalism Leaves Behind // with Dr. Angela Denker

Mon, 31 Oct 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Dr. Angela Denker, journalist, minister and author of the book Red State Christians: A Journey Through Christian Nationalism and the Wreckage It Leaves Behind, sits down with Tim to discuss the research from her updated book. Angela explains her background and how she went from a Sports Reporter, to a Lutheran minister, to author. Tim and Angela discuss her book and how she defines Christian Nationalism. Tim and Angela discuss what she means by the wreckage that Christian Nationalism left behind. Lastly, Tim and Angela discuss how to address Christian Nationalism.

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100. Learn To Live Like A Loser// with Stephen Backhouse

Mon, 24 Oct 2022 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode Tim interviews Stephen Backhouse from Tent Theology. Stephen explains how Kierkegaard encourages us to look for Christ in the marginalized people of society, and why Christian Nationalism trades allegiance to Jesus for allegiance to violence and empire. Stephen also discusses the Anabaptist tradition and Christian Anarchy.

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99. Homeschoolers Survive Beer Camp // with Mason Mennenga

Mon, 17 Oct 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Tim and Noah sit down with Mason Mennenga from "A People's Theology" to discuss their thoughts on Tripp Fuller's Theology Beer Camp.

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BONUS EPISODE: Homeschoolers Go To Beercamp (Part 2)

Sat, 15 Oct 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Tim and Noah recap the first day of Theology Beer Camp and how the experience is affecting them.

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BONUS EPISODE: Homeschoolers Go To Beercamp (Part 1)

Thu, 13 Oct 2022 08:00:00 -0000

It's the night before beer-camp. Noah and Tim share their first thoughts about Tripp Fuller's Theology Beer Camp God-Pod Edition, before their flight to NC.

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98. The Indoctrination Station // with Julie Ingersoll

Mon, 10 Oct 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Julie Ingersoll, professor and author of the book, Building God's Kingdom: Inside the World Of Christian Reconstructionism, sits down with Tim to discuss Christian Reconstructionism. Julie shares some of her background and how she came to study and write about Christian Reconstructionism. Tim and Julie discuss what Christian Reconstructionism is. Tim and Julie discuss the founder of Christian Reconstruction, R.J. Rushdoony. They also discuss how Christian Reconstructionism has gone mainstream with people who are CR adjacent like Betsy DeVos, Charlie Kirk, David Barton, Voddie Bauchem and Doug Wilson. Lasty, Tim and Julie discuss if Christian Reconstructionism can be resisted.

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97. We Disagree, Let's Talk // With Pastor David Griffin

Thu, 06 Oct 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Pastor David Griffin used a TNE Tik Tok video in a sermon to warn of the problems of deconstruction. So Tim invited David on the show to have a good faith dialogue to talk about our differences.

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96. Predestined For Deconstruction // with Derek Webb

Mon, 03 Oct 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Derek Webb, singer-songwriter and member of Caedmon's Call, sits down with Tim to discuss his journey from Caedmon's Call to a solo career as a deconstructed Christian. Derek explains a little bit about his background and how he became a part of Caedmon's Call. Tim and Derek discuss how Derek became hardcore Calvinist during his tenure at Caedmon's Call. Tim and Derek discuss how both his departure from Caedmon's Call and his deconstruction began. Lastly, Tim and Derek discuss his current beliefs.

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95. Theology Is An Art Form // with Tim and Noah

Fri, 30 Sep 2022 17:30:00 -0000

Tim and Noah sit down to discuss how they view theology as an art form, and what it looks like to put their beliefs in perspective of the larger christian tradition. They also analyze the results of the 2022 "State of Theology" study from Ligonier Ministries and LifeWay Research and discuss how the study reflects current trends in evangelical culture.

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94. I Speak For The Trees // with Denzel D. Burnside III

Mon, 26 Sep 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Denzel Burnside III, minister, activist, and social media content creator, sits down with Tim to discuss Christian Environmentalism and how industries can impact not just the environment but the communities they operate in. Denzel explains his background growing up in Miami, Florida and how he ended up in North Carolina. Tim and Denzel discuss Denzel's time working with Democratic campaigns and why he left that to pursue activism. Tim and Denzel discuss his work with the Dogwood Alliance and what they do. Lastly, Tim and Denzel discuss how his faith impacts the work that he does now.

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93. Tim, You’re a Mouthpiece of Satan // with Pete Enns

Mon, 19 Sep 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Pete Enns, social media content creator, podcast host and professor, sits down with Tim to discuss theology and processing current Evangelical messaging. Tim and Pete discuss how to view the Bible post deconstruction. Pete explains his background. Tim and Pete discuss Evangelical culture and theology and how it developed intellectually. Lastly, Tim and Pete discuss the intellectual and faith development of the Biblical writers.

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92. I State My Regret // with Tim and Noah

Fri, 16 Sep 2022 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode Tim and Noah reflect on the question: "how do we effectively critique harmful ideologies in a non-dehumanizing manner, and what does it look like to use that critique as an opportunity for invitation into greater human flourishing?"

Tim shares how these questions affect the type of content that The New Evangelicals continues to produce, and what it looks like to uphold TNE's values as the community continues to stand up against harmful theology and oppression.

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91. Giving You Permission To Process // with Dan Koch

Mon, 12 Sep 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Dan Koch, musician and podcast content creator, sits down with Tim to talk about his latest venture getting his doctorate in Psychology with an emphasis on spiritual abuse. Dan explains his background and how he decided to study psychology. Dan and Tim discuss his series on The Dangers of Progressive Christianity to show how conversations about this topic with right of center guests can be persuasive with those not on the radicalized right. Tim and Dan also discuss what fundamentalism is and how it affects discussions about politics and religion. Lastly, Tim and Dan discuss how social media platforms can have a positive effect on both the right, left, and conservative and progressive Christianity.

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90. Is Black Liberation Theology a False Gospel? // with Tripp Fuller and Adam Clark

Thu, 08 Sep 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Tim sits down with Adam Clark and Tripp Fuller to discuss a recent post from the Center for Biblical Unity claiming that black liberation theology is a false gospel. Adam Clark was mentored by James Cone, the father of black liberation theology, and is an expert on the subject; so Tim, Adam, and Tripp discuss wether or not the post is accurate.

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89. Tim's TNE Podcast Update

Mon, 05 Sep 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Tim Whitaker explains recent changes and updates in the latest podcast. Tim thanks listeners and supporters of TNE. There are some new announcements. Tim explains what's going to be changing about the podcast going forward. Lastly, Tim thanks donors for their generosity and their outpouring for support for the social media platforms, the podcast and Tim to be able to do TNE full time.

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88. The Empire Strikes Back // with Tim and Noah

Fri, 02 Sep 2022 17:13:31 -0000

Tim and Noah discuss President Biden's recent speech at Independence Hall, Doug Mastriano, and Bobbie Houston's new fashion line.

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87. What the H, Matt Chandler?! // With The Bodies Behind the Bus

Tue, 30 Aug 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Recently Matt Chandler stepped down from leadership at the village church for inappropriately DM'ing a woman through his instagram account. But this story is strange and has a lot of red flags so Tim brought on Johnna and Jay from the Bodies Behind the Bus Podcast to get their perspective on the situation.

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86. The God Who Riots // with Damon Garcia

Mon, 29 Aug 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Damon Garcia, minister, social media content creator, artist and author of the new book The God Who Riots:Taking Back the Radical Jesus, sits down with Tim to discuss his new book. Damon explains his background in Evangelical culture and what led him to ultimately leave Evangelicalism. Tim and Damon discuss both the theological and political reasons for his deconstruction. Tim and Damon discuss his reasons for writing the book and what the terms abolitionist and radical mean to him. Lastly, Tim and Damon discuss the best way forward for the church, specifically those who are deconstructing.

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85. What the Deuth?! // with Tim and Riley

Fri, 26 Aug 2022 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode Tim is joined by Riley Martinez to respond to a video of Samuel Deuth, pastor of Awaken Church calling out The New Evangelicals.

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84. Living Under Oath // with Aaron Gillespie

Mon, 22 Aug 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Aaron Gillespie, songwriter, producer and drummer for Underoath sits down with Tim to talk about music and deconstruction. Aaron explains his background. Aaron and Tim discuss his current projects and his writing process. Aaron explains how he deconstructed and how it led him to being more authentic in his music. Tim and Aaron discuss how Underoath left the Evangelical music space to become more transparent about who they were as individuals. Lastly, Tim and Aaron talk all things drums.

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82. Reclaiming Community // with Rohadi Nagassar

Mon, 15 Aug 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Rohadi Nagassar, speaker, podcast host and author of the book When We Belong: Reclaiming Christianity on the Margins sits down with Tim to discuss his new book. Rohadi explains his background and what led him to write his new book. Tim and Rohadi discuss the idea of discipleship the church has neglected. They expound upon the idea of community and how that looks in the twenty-first century. Lastly they explore the impact of Christian Nationalism on the church and in both the U.S. and Canada.

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80. Slaughtering Sacred Cows // with Dr. Dan McClellan

Mon, 08 Aug 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Dr. Dan McClellan, social media content creator, translator of LDS material and author of his new book Deity and Divine Agency in the Hebrew Bible, sits down with Tim to discuss issues related to how modern Christianity interprets ancient Hebrew texts. Dan explains his background and how he studies Cognitive Linguistics and Cognitive Religion. Tim and Dan discuss the different interpretations of God through the ages. Tim and Dan discuss if religion as modernity interprets it existed among the writers of the Hebrew Bible. Lastly, Tim and Dan discuss how language in both ancient texts and modern day usage differ especially in dealing with translation.

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79. Is Christian Nationalism "Fringe"? // with Samuel Perry

Mon, 01 Aug 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Samuel Perry, University of Oklahoma professor, author and social media content creator sits down with Tim to discuss his data concerning Christian Nationalism. Samuel Perry explains his new data concerning the breakdown of Christian Nationalism. Tim and Samuel discuss the definitions of those terms, Ambassador, Accommodator, Rejector and Resister. Tim and Samuel also discuss if those on the Ambassador side of Christian Nationalism are going further to the Right or not. Lastly, Tim and Samuel discuss some of the books which explore the polarization of Americans.

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78. Lost Faith and Wandering Souls // with Dr. David Morris

Mon, 25 Jul 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Dr. David Morris, publisher, psychologist and author of the book Lost Faith and Wandering Souls: A Psychology of Disillusionment, Mourning and the Return of Hope, sits down with Tim to discuss the psychological reasons for and the impact of deconstruction. David explains his background and what led him to become a publisher who focuses on the deconstruction phenomenon. Tim and David discuss what ingredients psychologically lead people to deconstruct. Tim and David discuss the lack of community and how that driving need often leads to deconstruction. Lastly, Tim and David discuss what hope means in the deconstruction process.

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77. Allie Stuckey Goes from Disingenuous to Dangerous Pt 2

Fri, 22 Jul 2022 08:00:00 -0000

In this episode Tim and Riley finish up their response to Allie Stuckey's podcast episode #360 where she brought on "reporter" Julie Kelly to discuss the Jan 6th insurrection and who was really at fault.

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76. Larry Boy and the Conspiracy Weed// with Jared Stacy

Mon, 18 Jul 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Jared Stacy, former pastor and current researcher of conspiracy theories and how they intersect with Evangelicalism, sits down with Tim to discuss his research. Jared explains his background in Southern Evangelical spaces and his eventual move from pastoral work to getting a PhD in conspiracy theories. Tim and Jared discuss the three ways a conspiracy theory is defined. They also discuss how there is overlap between Qnon conspiracy theories and Evangelical theology. Lastly, Tim and Jared discuss how to approach people who believe in conspiracy theories.

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75. The Unpatriotic Evangelicals //with Tim and Noah

Fri, 15 Jul 2022 14:40:04 -0000

In this episode Tim and Noah sit down to discuss the concept of American patriotism, and the pursuit of "liberty and justice for all".

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74. I Am Kelvin Gemstone // with Pastor Dan Minor

Mon, 11 Jul 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Dan Minor, pastor of Harvest Church in Sarasota, FL, sits down with Tim to discuss being an LGBTQIA affirming, community-loving Evangelical church amongst Theocon churches. Pastor Dan explains his background in the Pentecostal church. Tim and Pastor Dan discus Harvest Church's LGBTQIA affirming status and the fall out from that decision. Lastly, Tim and Pastor Dan discuss the role of politics in the church and how the Christian influence should be loving your neighbor.

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73. Losing My Religion // with Trey Pearson

Mon, 04 Jul 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Trey Pearson, former frontman for the Christian rock band Everyday Sunday, solo artist, and LGBTQIA activist, sits down with Tim to discuss Trey's coming out story. Trey explains his background in the conservative Evangelical church and how he became involved with the band Everyday Sunday. Tim and Trey discuss Trey's coming out story and what he lost as a result of his admission he was gay. Trey discusses his LGBTQIA activism. Lastly, Tim and Trey discuss music, Trey's new album, Somebody You Know, and Trey's recording process.

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72. When Your Ex Calls...// with Tim and Noah

Fri, 01 Jul 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Tim and Noah share a conversation about Tim's Ex......worship leader, accountability for harm in religious spaces, and how the evangelical church continues to prop up christian nationalism.

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71. The Power of Christian Nationalism at the Supreme Court // With Rachel Laser

Wed, 29 Jun 2022 15:56:05 -0000

On this episode Tim sits down with the leader of American's United, Rachel Laser, to discuss two recent landmark Supreme Court rulings that have major implications that affect us now and in the future.

Rachel and her team represented Bremerton School District in the recent SCOTUS case Kennedy Vs Bremerton School District. In this case a high school football coach was praying with students at the 50 yard line after games and the school said he couldn't do that while coaching. He refused to comply, was placed on paid leave and then chose not to renew his contract. He sued in lower courts and lost. A powerful shadow network of conservative evangelicals funded the case up to the SCOTUS where they ruled in the coach's favor.

Rachel unpacks why this ruling is unprecedented and also unpacks the court's decision to overturn Roe V Wade.

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70. Mind the 47% Orgasm Gap // With Sheila and Keith Gregorie

Mon, 27 Jun 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Sheila and Keith Gregoire, authors, social media content creators and podcast hosts sit down with Tim to discuss their new books The Good Guys Guide to Great Sex and the updated version of The Good Girls Guide to Great Sex. Keith Gregoire explains some background of his experience in the Evangelical church and how he came to write a book with his wife Sheila. Tim, Keith and Sheila discuss their research into how both men and women's theological/practical views of marriage can impact their marriage satisfaction. They also discuss how gender stereotypes set forth in churches and in Christian marriage books have hurt marriages. Lastly, they discuss the difference between intimacy and sex and how women's pleasure is often neglected because of the ignorance about this difference.

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69. Allie Stuckey goes from Disingenuous to Dangerous Pt. 1`

Thu, 23 Jun 2022 08:00:00 -0000

On this episode of the podcast Tim and Riley respond to an Allie Stuckey podcast discussing how the Jan 6th insurrection was overblown, how the police incited the majority of the violence and how the suspects arrested a political prisoners.

CORRECTION: When Allie says that there were grandmothers in the capitol with an American flag on Jan 6th we asked for proof. We have a found a picture of an older woman holding an American flag in the capitol. We could not confirm if she was a grandmother.

BLM protest Data - https://acleddata.com/2021/05/25/a-year-of-racial-justice-protests-key-trends-in-demonstrations-supporting-the-blm-movement/

Couy Griffin - https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/21/politics/couy-griffin-trial-january-6/index.html

Capitol Police theory - https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-235651652542

Ray Epps - https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/us/jan-6-ray-epps-evidence.html

Ryan Samsel - https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/01/us/capitol-riot-man-charged-officer-concussion-trnd/index.html

FBI Informants theory - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/25/us/politics/capitol-riot-fbi-informant.html

Washington Post database - https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/

Lafayette Square report - https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/doj-reaches-settlement-2020-cases-involving-lafayette-square-protester-rcna24325

Jan 6th Jail info - https://www.washingtonian.com/2022/01/05/the-january-sixers-have-their-own-unit-at-the-dc-jail-heres-what-life-is-like-inside/

Elizabeth Warren’s stamens on Solitary confinement -https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/19/capitol-riot-defendants-warren-483125

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Drag Queen Story Hour // With Flamy Grant

Wed, 15 Jun 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Flamy Grant joins Tim on the show to explain what it means to be a drag queen and if drag shows are attempting to "groom" children

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68. Being Black in White Evangelical Spaces // With Malynda Hale

Mon, 13 Jun 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Malynda Hale, musician, actress, entrepreneur, host of social media content and social justice activist, sits down with Tim to discuss being a black woman in America. Malynda explains her background and how she came to attend a white Evangelical college in California. Tim and Malynda discuss being a black woman in a white Evangelical college. Tim and Malynda discuss music and how that led her to her social justice activism. Lastly, Tim and Malynda discuss black women and their plight within the medical community, navigating child care and the negative stereotyping that white Evangelicals paint of black women in America and maternity.

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BONUS 2.0: What the Jan 6th Committee DIDN'T Talk About

Fri, 10 Jun 2022 15:41:04 -0000

Recapping the first Jan 6th committee hearing and how the committee failed to address one of the primary fuel sources of the insurrection and the Trump fanaticism that so many of us saw through his presidency.

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BONUS EPISODE: Drag Queens, John MacArthur, and are we only picking on one side? // with Tim and Noah

Thu, 09 Jun 2022 19:39:54 -0000

In this bonus episode, Tim and Noah discuss Texas' new bill banning children from drag shows, how christian nationalism relies on religious privilege and rejects religious freedom for all, the recent SBC abuse scandals, and Turning Point USA's new school curriculum. They also address the particular dangers of political fundamentalism when it is explicitly linked to religious identity and hero worship.

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67. Welcome to the Process Party // With Tripp Fuller

Mon, 06 Jun 2022 08:00:00 -0000

On this episode of the podcast Tim has a discussion with Tripp Fuller unpacking what Process Theology is. This is a two part conversation with the first half on The New Evangelical’s podcast and the second half on Tripp’s podcast, Home-brewed Christianity.

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66. What the Hell? // with Preston Sprinkle

Mon, 30 May 2022 08:00:00 -0000

On this episode of the podcast Preston Sprinkle joins Tim to talk about the different ways Christianity has understood Hell and offers a view of Hell outside of the typical view of eternal conscious torment. Preston is an author and scholar who has done immense research on the topic so this is a highly informative episode.

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65. Is America a Christian Nation? // With Andrew Seidel

Mon, 23 May 2022 08:00:00 -0000

If you have friends or family who are willing to listen to other perspectives when it comes to constitutional law and how we protect religious freedom for ALL then this is the podcast for you.

Andrew Seidel is a constitutional lawyer who actively works with groups defending the first amendment. Andrew unpacks how the first amendment works, why it's so important and how Christian Nationalism is one of the greatest threats undermining what it's designed to do. Tim asks Andrew if America is a Christian nation and why doesn't the phrase 'separation of church and state' doesn't exist in the constitution and why it's not a problem

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64. Womanist Theology // with Dr. Angela Parker

Mon, 16 May 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Dr. Angela Parker, professor, social media content creator and author of the book, If God Still Breathes Why Can't I? Black Lives Matter and Biblical Authority, sits down with Tim to discuss Womanist theology in White Evangelical dominant spaces. Dr. Angela Parker discusses her background as a professor of NT studies at Mercer University. Tim and Dr. Parker discuss the differences between White Theo Bros and Black Women Theologians especially in terms of theology and biblical cultural bias. Lastly, Tim and Dr. Parker discuss the future of the Evangelical church in light of Christian Nationalism having such a foothold in White Evangelical churches.

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63. From Conservative to Progressive Christianity // With Brandan Robertson

Mon, 09 May 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Brandan Roberts, social media content creator and author of the new book Fill to Be Empty, sits down with Tim to discuss his life and definition of inclusive Christianity. Brandan explains his background growing up in a fundamentalist Baptist church. Tim and Brandan discuss the mass exodus of Christians from the AEC. Tim and Brandan discuss what orthodoxy means and where it came from. Tim and Brandan discuss the complexity of the Bible and how the AEC has elevated it as equal to God. Lastly, Tim and Brandan discuss where the AEC is likely headed.

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62. Evangelical...ish // with April Ajoy

Mon, 02 May 2022 08:00:00 -0000

April Ajoy, social media content creator, podcast presenter and film project creator for Evangelicalish, sits down with Tim to discuss her own deconstruction story and how she began her parody skits on Tik Tok. April explains her background and what led her to deconstruct her faith. She and Tim discuss how the political climate of 2016 led them both to question the church's promotion of Trumpism. They both also discuss how social media has allowed them to find connection with other people who were also deconstructing. Lastly, April explains what's coming in the future for Evangelicalish.

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BONUS EPISODE: Is the White Evangelical Church Worth Reforming? // with Tim and Noah

Fri, 29 Apr 2022 20:15:00 -0000

Tim and Noah hop on for a bonus episode to talk about the systematic issues the white evangelical church is facing and if the institutions are worth saving. They talk about Allie Stuckey's response to John MacArthur, the upcoming THEOS U conference with Matt Chandler and Mark Driscoll, and why white evangelicals refuse to hold their own accountable.

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61. Fortune and Our Connected Ancestry// with Lisa Sharon Harper

Mon, 25 Apr 2022 13:40:00 -0000

Lisa Aaron Harper, author of the new book Fortune: How Race Broke My Family and The World, sits down with Tim to discuss her book and the future of Evangelicalism. Lisa explains how the investigation of her genealogy was the catalyst for her new book. Tim and Lisa discuss the difference between the individualism within white culture that removes the person from their ancestors' national, cultural and linguistic identity and other ethnic cultures who see their connection to their ancestors' national, cultural and linguistic identity. Tim and Lisa discuss the past and present of Evangelicalism in America. Lastly, Tim and Lisa discuss the current conservative SCOTUS court and how the implications for black and brown people could erase decades of advances in racial equality.

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60. Holy Balls // With Kristin Du Mez

Mon, 18 Apr 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Dr. Kristin Du Mez, historian and author of the book Jesus and John Wayne, sits down with Tim to discuss the book and current White Conservative Evangelicalism. Kristin explains her background and her work as a historian. Kristin and Tim discuss the difference between her work as a historian and those of theologians in defining what an Evangelical is. Tim and Kristin discuss her book and the implications of it. Lastly, Kristin explains what she means by Calvinism and the Reformed tradition.

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59. TNE Coffee Talk // with Tim and Noah

Mon, 11 Apr 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Tim Whitaker and Noah Althoff from TNE sit down to discuss topics happening in the Christian community. Noah and Tim discuss the role of certainty in Christian theological traditions and how that impacts the average Christian within those faith communities. Tim and Noah discuss the latest Red Pen critique that used a clip from Tim about a Biblical sexual ethic and the lack of humility this particular content creator showed by failing to admit the glaring differences between sexual ethics accepted in Biblical eras compared to now. Lastly, Tim and Noah discuss the latest story by Julie Roys about a faculty member of John MacArthur's Master's College who advocates for abused women to suffer abuse like a missionary suffers persecution.

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58. Shoutin' in the Fire // with Dante Stewart

Mon, 04 Apr 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Dante Stewart, theologian, pastor, and author of the new book Shoutin' in the Fire: An American Epistle, sits down with Tim to discuss his book and his time in white Evangelical churches. Dante and Tim discuss the reason why Dante wrote his new book. Dante talks about the relationships that led him back to the black church and the black theologist and literalist tradition. Dante and Tim discuss what happened that caused Dante to leave the white Evangelical church he was at. Tim and Dante talk about the assimilation process through ideology that white Evangelical churches employ. Lastly, Dante explains that change is reorienting oneself toward bettering humanity and not just final solutions to complex problems like race.

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57. James Cone and The Importance of Black Theology // with Dr. Adam Clark

Mon, 28 Mar 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Dr. Adam Clark, Xavier University professor, former co-chair of Black Theology Group at the American Academy of Religion, author and podcast creator, sits down with Tim to discuss James Cone and black liberation theology. Dr. Clark gives his education and personal background and how he came to study theology under James Cone. Tim and Dr. Clark discuss what liberation theology is and its definition of freedom. Tim and Dr. Clark also discuss James Cone and Martin Luther King Jr. and what their contributions were to the formation of the black liberation movement. Tim and Dr. Clark discuss the difference in what the Biblical idea of redemptive violence is and how white Evangelism discredits it. Lastly, Tim and Dr. Clark discuss what white allies can do to bring about the change that needs to happen in order for justice and equity for POC to exist.

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56. Kierkegaard and the New Nationalism // with Thomas Millay

Mon, 21 Mar 2022 12:44:06 -0000

Thomas Millay, professor, pastor and author of the new book Kierkegaard and the New Nationalism, sits down with Tim to discuss how Kierkegaard's view of Nationalism intersects with how Nationalism affects us currently. Thomas explains his background and what prompted his new book. Tim and Thomas discuss the definition of Nationalism and the understanding of how that defines Christian Nationalism. Thomas explains how Soren Kierkegaard lived out the practical aspects of Christianity in light of how Nationalism impacted those in society and around the world. Tim and Thomas look at Kierkegaard, John Locke and James Cone in their understanding of nationalism and spirituality. Lastly, Tim and Thomas discuss forethought in how individuals live their lives understanding the impact of their choices on others.

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55. Healing Atonement and Restorative Justice // with Mako Nagasawa

Mon, 14 Mar 2022 08:00:00 -0000

Mako Nagasawa, advocate for restorative justice and intentional Christian community living, sits down with Tim and talks about what restorative justice looks like from the gospel examples. Mako explains his background and how he eventually got into ministry. Mako and Tim discuss how he began to investigate restorative justice and healing atonement theory. Mako and Tim discuss how intentional Christian community seeks to create multigenerational affordable housing in Boston. Lastly, Tim and Mako discuss how Christians can become a part of this movement.

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BONUS EPISODE: Inerrancy - Do We Take It or Leave It?

Wed, 09 Mar 2022 17:46:59 -0000

This is a recording taken from our theology 101 zoom group that meets on the first Monday of the month.

In this session Jason Lowe breaks down where we get our modern view inerrancy from and how it might not be as "historical" as you thought.

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54. Sex Positivity and Porn with Justin Oberste

Mon, 07 Mar 2022 09:00:00 -0000

Justin Oberste, licensed sex therapist, sits down with Tim to discuss his particular field but also how therapy in general can aid the deconstructionist community. Justin gives some of his background in Evangelical spaces. Tim and Justin discuss the evolution of Justin’s coming out. Tim and Justin discuss the benefits and drawbacks of therapy in the deconstruction community. Lastly, Justin explains the difference between a licensed therapist, a coach and a counselor.

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53. What Can We Learn From Queer Theology Pt 3

Mon, 28 Feb 2022 09:00:00 -0000

Brian Murphy and Fr. Shay Kearns, from the social media account Queer Theology, sit down with Tim for the third installment about the work of Queer Theology. Brian and Shay discuss how Queer Theology came to be and what their message is. Tim, Brian and Shay discuss what the initial response was when they launched the website and how many of those who engage are from Evangelical backgrounds. Brian and Shay discuss how body autonomy was co-opted by the Evangelical church and the damage it did. Tim, Brian and Shay discuss whether Evangelical can be redeemed. Lastly, Tim ask about how both queer and straight folks can engage Queer Theology and the LGBTQIA community in a more loving way.

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52. Queer Theology Pt 2 // Shay's Story

Mon, 21 Feb 2022 09:00:00 -0000

Fr. Shay Kearns, co-creator of Queer Theology, podcast host and ordained priest, sits down with Tim to discuss his story as a transgender man in Christian spaces. Shay explains his background in the Evangelical church and in Evangelical education. Shay and Tim discuss his exploration of both sexuality and gender as a leader in the American Baptist tradition and in his education at Union College's seminary. Shay explains how he got involved with the Old Catholic church and the differences between it and Roman Catholicism. Lastly, Tim and Shay discuss why the Evangelical church struggles with challenges to its theology.

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51. Queer Theology Pt 1 // Brian's Story

Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:00:00 -0000

Brian G. Murphy, from Queer Theology, sits down with Tim on the first of three episodes about what it means to be a queer Christian. Brian explains how he grew up. Tim and Brian discuss how Brian discovered he was queer and what that meant going into his college years. Brian explains how coming out to his parents changed both their understanding of God. Tim and Brian discuss how Queer Theology came about. Lastly, Brian explains what polyamory or ethical non-monogamy is.

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50. Activist Theology // With Dr. Robyn Espinoza

Mon, 07 Feb 2022 09:00:00 -0000

Dr. Robyn Espinoza, professor, author and social media content creator of I, Robyn, sits down with Tim to discuss their upcoming book Body Becoming: Path to Liberation. Dr. Robyn discusses their background as a trans, nonbinary person raised in Evangelicalism. Dr. Robyn and Tim discuss how their degree led to their social media account, I, Robyn and what does activist theology look like? Tim and Dr. Robyn discuss how the current deconstructionist movement and ethical theology intersect. Dr. Robyn explains what conversations can look like when harm reduction is the goal versus right thinking. Lastly, Dr. Robyn explains what they think heaven on earth through ethical theology can create in society.

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49. Walking by the Spirit in Racial Harmony // With Dr. Nathan Cartagena

Mon, 31 Jan 2022 09:00:00 -0000

Dr. Nathan Cartegena, professor, author and speaker, sits down with Tim to discuss the issues of racialization within the Evangelical church and how to relearn a new path toward Biblical understanding of restorative justice. Dr. Nathan Cartagena gives some of his background and how he came to discuss specific intersectionality of the Evangelical church and race. Tim and Dr. Cartagena discuss generational patterns of racism and what wounds are caused to both white and POC communities through erroneous teachings by the Evangelical church. Next, Tim and Dr. Cartagena talk about how the ideas of walking with the Spirit and Biblical understanding of restorative justice connect. Lastly, Tim and Dr. Cartagena look at the direction forward for the white Evangelical church, and those deconstructing from it, by detaching the church from Empire.

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48. COVID, Vaccines and...an Efficient Government? // With Jessica Malaty Rivera

Mon, 24 Jan 2022 09:00:00 -0000

Jessica Malaty Rivera, Infectious Disease Epidemiologist and Science Communication Lead at the Covid Tracking Project, sits down with Tim to discuss information about pandemic prevention research, Covid-19 and the vaccine. Jessica explains her background and how she ended up studying infectious diseases at Georgetown University. Tim and Jessica discuss what Covid-19 is and how masks and social distance can prevent transmission of the disease. Tim and Jessica discuss misinformation on the virus itself and also the reporting of deaths due to Covid-19. Jessica explains how racism in medicine and lack of healthcare preparedness resulted in our current situation. Lastly, Tim and Jessica discuss the vaccine, its efficacy and how transmissible the new variant Omicron is.

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47. Christian Ethics for a Modern World // With David Gushee

Mon, 17 Jan 2022 09:00:00 -0000

Dr. David Gushee, professor and author, sits down with Tim to discuss his new book Introducing Christian Ethics. Tim and Dr. Gushee discuss his current project and how it came about. Dr. Gushee explains Christian Humanism in his newly released book Introducing Christian Ethics and how it's relevant to his new book. Tim and Dr. Gushee talk about the difference between having knowledge about certain challenging questions of life and how to solve them. Lastly, Dr. Gushee explains what Sacred Nonviolent and Sacred Violence are in church history and how that is important in understanding current events

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46. Conservative or Progressive Christians: Who's More Political? // With Dr. George Yancy

Mon, 10 Jan 2022 09:00:00 -0000

Dr. George Yancey, sociologist and author of the book, One Faith No Longer: The Transformation of Christianity in Red and Blue America, sits down with Tim to discuss Progressive Christianity and the divide between them and Conservative Christianity in terms of politics. Dr. Yancey and Tim discuss his book and what were some of the implications of it. Dr. Yancey explains his background in academia and his switch to studying religion. Tim and Dr. Yancey discuss how he defines Progressive Christianity. They also examine the political landscape since his book was written based on data from 2012. Tim and Dr. Yancey look at the blindspot of Progressive Christians and how to improve relations between them and Conservative Christians. Dr. Yancy discusses his upcoming book.

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BONUS: The Insurrection // One Year Later with Dr. Samuel Perry

Thu, 06 Jan 2022 09:00:00 -0000

January 6th 2021 was a day America and the world will never forget. Tim brought on Samuel Perry, the author of Taking America Back for God which looks at polling and other data to see how Christian Nationalism behaves, how it's seen in the larger public and where it's heading.

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45. The Moore You Know: With Dr. Russell Moore

Mon, 03 Jan 2022 09:00:00 -0000

Russell Moore, author, theologian, former pastor, former Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission President for the SBC, and podcast host for Christianity Today, sits down with Tim to discuss the current situation within the AEC. Russell gives some of his background and his connection with disillusionment of the church; a phrase he uses instead of deconstruction to describe what he sees as antichrist in the modern AEC. Tim and Russell discuss what his view of the deconstruction movement is and how broad the term is. They both discuss what both the individual and the church need to do in order to propel the church forward in a Christ focused manner. Lastly, Tim gives Russell a chance to point out what is wrong with TIm's critique of the AEC and what he sees as necessary for the church to meet the requirements set down by Jesus to be a healthy church.

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A Christmas Greeting from Tim

Mon, 27 Dec 2021 10:00:00 -0000

We are taking the week off! Here's an end of year wrap up message from Tim. Thank you to ALL of our listeners for making this podcast what it is!

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44. Did the Virgin Birth REALLY Happen? // With Tripp Fuller

Mon, 20 Dec 2021 10:00:00 -0000

MERRY CHRISTMAS! Let's deconstruct the virgin birth

Tripp Fuller, author, theologian and podcast host sits down with a follow-up episode with Tim to discuss the Virgin Birth. Tripp explains the difference between Protestant and Catholic interpretations of the Virgin Birth of Jesus. Tim and Tripp discuss the historical evidence of the Christmas story accounts in Matthew and Luke and if the story was meant to be taken literally. Lastly, Tim and Tripp discuss what the idea of being fully God and fully human means apart from the traditional Evangelical theology and how the fully faithfulness of Jesus expresses a deeper understanding of this concept. (insert links)

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43. Who the F**K is Kierkegaard // With Aaron Simmons

Mon, 13 Dec 2021 10:00:00 -0000

Aaron Simmons, professor of philosophy, Youtube content creator and friend of Tripp Fuller sits down with Tim to discuss how Kierkegaard’s writings dissect the issues within Christianity we are faced with today. Aaron gives his background as a professor of philosophy at Furman, his personal life and the content he and Trip Fuller are creating together. Aaron breaks down the body of work by Kierkegaard and his aim as a Danish thinker. Tim and Aaron discuss what Kierkegaard meant by his pursuit of the self (or existentialism) and how the knowledge of the self was crucial to understand the pursuit of faith. Tim asks Aaron how Kierkegaard would view the intersection of Christian nationalism and Christianity within the AEC. Aaron discusses how we either elevate those in power or are wrecked by those power systems in the pursuit of Jesus.

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42. 1946 The Movie Interview with Sharon "Rocky" Roggio

Mon, 06 Dec 2021 11:00:00 -0000

Sharon "Rocky" Roggio, an independent filmmaker, production designer and now director for her new project 1946 The Movie, sits down with Tim about the project and where it originated. Rocky, explains her background as a pastor's daughter in a non-denominational Evangelical church that was not LGBT+ affirming and how being gay in that environment was very harmful for her. Working in the film industry, Rocky's experience and her own sexual identity eventually coincided in the project 1946 The Movie. Tim and Rocky discuss how she immersed herself in research after going to one after another of seemingly affirming churches, but then discovering they were not in fact affirming of LGBT+ members at all. Rocky, explains how the project came to her, and how the writers of the book the project is based on did meticulous research on how the term "homosexual" came to be in the English translations of the Bible. Tim and Rocky then discuss how long it took to film and edit the movie for release and when the film is slated to be finished.

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41. Smashing the Glass Ceiling with Dr. Kia Moore

Mon, 29 Nov 2021 09:00:00 -0000

Dr. Kia Moore, pastor, community advocate and the first female delegate to the Tennessee Baptist Convention sits down with Tim to discuss racism in public health, black baptist churches, and women in Southern Baptist spaces. Dr. Moore gives her background and what precipitated her speaking with White House officials about how she organized a vaccine drive in black churches in her community. Dr. Moore is a pastor at The Church at The Well in Memphis Tennessee and works as an outreach to her community. She and Tim discuss how racism in medicine created distrust among the black community due to research like the Tuskegee Experiment. Dr. Moore also explains how she combatted that mistrust by using one of the researchers who was a Black woman to educate her community concerning the need for the vaccine. Tim and Dr. Moore explore how Whiteness in medical spaces continues to use myths about people of color that can be dangerous especially to women of color. Dr. Moore also talks about how being the first woman to preach at her childhood church, and later to become the first female pastor at her current church, helped her to see the need for advocacy for other women seeking to become pastors

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40. Unsettling Truths of the Doctrine of Discovery: With Mark Charles

Mon, 22 Nov 2021 10:00:00 -0000

Mark Charles, Native American pastor and author of the book Unsettling Truths: The Ongoing Dehumanizing Legacy of the Doctrine of Discovery with co-author Soong-Chan Rah, sits down with Tim to discuss Christian Supremacy's impact on Native Americans. Mark gives a breakdown of his background growing up in a missionary school on the Navajo Reservation and his journey to becoming a pastor on the Reservation. They break down what the Doctrine of Discovery is starting with Christopher Columbus and the Catholic Church who authorized this doctrine. Mark then shows how Protestants who initially rejected the Doctrine of Discovery because of its Catholic roots, changed course on the way to the Massachusetts Bay Colony. Tim and Mark examine the Homestead Act of 1862 and the impact it had on Native Americans across the country. Mark explains how the racist policies of Abraham Lincoln impact current issues with incarcerated black Americans and removal of Native Americans off their native lands.

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39. An Insider's Take on Carl Lentz: With Janice (Godhasnotgiven)

Mon, 15 Nov 2021 09:00:00 -0000

Tim sat down with Janice who runs the instagram account Godhasnotgiven to talk about her time working at Hillsong NYC and interacting directly with Carl Lentz. Janice was open and honest about her time and how it eventually lead to her leaving the Evangelical Church for good.

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Bonus Episode: Deconstruction for...Street Cred? With Joshua Butler

Fri, 12 Nov 2021 11:00:00 -0000

Author of a recent TGC (The Gospel Coalition) article, Joshua Butler came on the show to discuss his article "Four Causes for Deconstruction". In the article Josh presents 4 common causes that people deconstruct which are Church Hurt, Poor Teaching, Want to Sin and Street Cred. Tim brought Josh on to talk about the article and some concerns he has with it.

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38. What is Critical Race Theory?: With Bradley Mason

Mon, 08 Nov 2021 09:00:00 -0000

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Bradly Mason author on the Twitter account Also A Carpenter, a friend and colleague of Dr. Nathan Cartegena and cabinet maker sits down with Tim to break down what CRT is and why it matters to understand it. Brad, explains his background as a carpenter and how he began to study CRT and began writing on his account to educate those within the Reformed Church about CRT. Tim and Brad first examine certain terms often used by those within white Evangelical spaces to criticize CRT: Critical Theory, Frankfurt School of Thought, and Critical Race Theory. Brad, points out that the Frankfurt School of Thought disagreed with aspects of Marxism and that Bell, one of the founders of CRT, disagrees with both Marx and the Frankfurt School on some aspects of systematic injustice as well. Tim and Brad then breakdown how post Civil Rights Act, disparities continued however and racial injustice no longer was accepted as the root cause. TIm and Brad then examine why the white Evangelical church finds the idea of CRT so repugnant. Lastly, Tim and Brad discuss what will happen to the white Evangelical church as a result of their resistance to CRT.

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37. Queer Eye for the Straight Pastor: With Bridget Eileen Rivera

Mon, 01 Nov 2021 08:00:00 -0000

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Bridget Eileen Rivera, author of Heavy Burdens: Seven Ways the LGBT Community Experiences Harm From the Church sits down with Tim to discuss how culture and the Religious Right's agenda influenced how Evangelicals were taught to view queerness. Bridget, gives some background about how she came to write her latest book. She gives the history of the Religious RIght's influence on the church starting with the AIDS crisis and the Gay Civil Rights era. Tim and Bridget then discuss how the terms homosexual and heterosexual came into our modern vocabulary from Freud's work on human sexuality. They discuss how that led to the translators of the Bible changing how certain Greek words were translated from the NT clobber passages from their original English translations to homosexual in 1946. Bridget, explains how culture for many of the early church fathers viewed all non-procreative sex as sodomy.

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36. A History of Christian Nationalism: With Dr. Stephen Backhouse and Rabbi Avi Finegold

Mon, 25 Oct 2021 08:00:00 -0000

On this episode Tim interviews not ONE but TWO distinguished guests. Dr. Stephen Backhouse and Rabbi Avi Finegold offer a unique insight to Christian nationalism, its roots and how it has taken ideas from judaism and twisted it to create a narrative that is actually counter to both Jewish and Christian thought throughout the ages.

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35. Mark Driscoll and Biblical Porn with Dr. Jessica Johnson

Mon, 18 Oct 2021 08:00:00 -0000

Dr. Jessica Johnson, professor and author of the book Biblical Porn sits down with Tim to discuss her book and interview with the Mars Hill Podcast. Tim and Jessica discuss what Mars Hill was like in the beginning in Seattle and how it attracted some many young adults. Tim and Jessica discuss the problems around Mark Driscoll's comments on women and men's objectification of them and how his sermons became so popular among white Evangelicals. Jessica, explains her interview with Christianity Today's podcast about Mars Hill and how she at first wasn't sure about the fourth episode but thought the fifth episode did put Mark's sermon clips in so that her words were backed up. Tim and Jessica discuss the fallout from Mars Hill and how the survivors of Mark Driscoll's abuse have never seen repentance from him. They also discuss how Mark has moved on to another church and is now taking up the cause of Christian Nationalism and criticism of CRT. Lastly, Jessica explains how her new research into Christian Nationalism outside the church will be the focus of her next book.

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34. Black Coffee with White Friends: With Marcie Alvis-Walker

Mon, 11 Oct 2021 08:25:00 -0000

Marcie is the creator and founder of Black Coffee with White Friends which is a space designed to bring people from different backgrounds to understand each other. Marci shares her story with Tim and her experiences with racism in her childhood and again as an adult dealing with the public school system.

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33. What I Learned Living as a Man and a Woman with Paula Stone Williams

Mon, 04 Oct 2021 09:00:00 -0000

On this episode Tim talked to author, pastor and speaker Paula Williams. Paula transitioned from a man to a woman and has a unique perspective on what she has learned since transitioning. Tim and Paula talk about her former job as a CEO and president of a church planting network and what life is like now as she advocates for women’s rights and equal pay in the workplace.

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32. Saving Us from Climate Change and from Ourselves with Dr. Katharine Hayhoe

Mon, 27 Sep 2021 09:00:00 -0000

Dr. Hayhoe is a leading voice in the ongoing climate change science and her new book “Saving Us” talks about both the science of climate change the politicalization of it. Her book attempts to bridge the gap between those who are skeptical of climate change and those who are leading the charge on the importance of changing societal norms to help save the planet. We talk about the data showing why climate change is being caused by humans, the skepticism around it and how we move forward.

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31. The Limited Space for Black Evangelicals In White Spaces: With Dr. Jemar Tisby

Mon, 20 Sep 2021 09:30:00 -0000

Jemar Tisby, author, scholar, activist and student of the renowned author and scholar Dr. William Pannell, discusses racism within Evangelicalism based on the book by Dr. Pannell, The Coming Race War. Jemar, gives the history and background on his mentor, Dr. Pannell. He explains how in 1992, Dr. Pannell identified the crisis that white Evangelicalism continues to ignore about racism both in secular society but also in Evangelical theology and churches. Tim and Jemar explore how that lack of identification of black voices within Evangelicalism makes it difficult for white Evangelicals to hear their position on racism. Jemar, explains how historical context is important to understand the current minimization of racism and its implications on society as a whole. Jemar, also explains the whitelash, or the silencing of black voices on this subject, and how it hinders the work that Jemar and other black scholars/activists/theologians do. Finally, Jemar and Tim look at ways to support black Christians in their work to fight racism within Evangelicalism, as well as in other spheres of society.

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30. Good Monsters, Bad Monsters and...Doug Wilson?: With Cody Lawrence

Mon, 13 Sep 2021 09:30:00 -0000

Cody Lawrence, podcast creator, former missionary, and pastor joins Tim to discuss everything from what the Bible is, what are the three greatest problems in the church, and the great mask debate from Biblical perspectives. Cody and Tim, give a little bit of background for each other’s listening audience. They also examine the issue of what the Bible is and whether it is inerrant or not. The idea of objective truth is explored through both Cody and Tim’s different theological perspectives. Tim and Cody, discuss what they believe are the three greatest problems in the American church and the implications of those problems on the church. Lastly, Tim and Cody comment on the concept of masking during the pandemic. They debate the Biblical idea of submission to governmental authorities and what that means to each of them.

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29. Naked and Afraid (In Deconstruction): With The Naked Pastor

Tue, 07 Sep 2021 09:30:00 -0000

David Hayward, author, artist and content creator of the Instagram account Naked Pastor joins Tim to discuss his new book, Til Doubt Us Do Part, about deconstruction in marriage. Tim and David, discuss his background and how that evolved into the current platform David has on the Naked Pastor. Tim and David, break down what deconstruction can do to a marriage relationship. David explains how a marriage should have flexibility to accommodate deconstruction in one or both partners. They both discuss what to do in relationships where there is an abusive or narcissistic spouse. David, gives some advice about how to deal with a spouse or family member who is deeply Alt-Right or fundementalist. Both Tim and David, talk about the negative impact Evangelical indoctrination can have on a marriage relationship and how marriage has been redefined by the current generation. Lastly, David imparts his wisdom about the journey of deconstruction and what to expect.

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28. The Radical Evangelical History You Were Never Taught: With Ben Cremer

Mon, 30 Aug 2021 09:00:00 -0000

Ben Cremer, historian, pastor and friend, breaks down the beginnings of the movement historians later called Evangelicalism. Tim and Ben, start from the beginning in pre-Civil War America and how people like Charles Phiney saw the ills within society and decided to apply their Christianity to the community around them. Ben, explains these Revivalists, as they referred to themselves, saw slavery, women’s subjugation and the predatory practices of the rich on the poor as immoral. This led to the Second Great Awakening and the abolitionist movement. Tim and Ben, examine how this idea led to modern beliefs that differ so much from the original movement. The book Discovering an Evangelical Heritage by Donald W. Dayton is also discussed and its importance in understanding early Evangelicals.

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27. A Response to Joshua Harris and The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill Podcast

Mon, 23 Aug 2021 09:00:00 -0000

On this episode I'm joined by Melanie from the Holy Heretics Podcast and Katherine from the Uncertain Podcast where we discuss the most recent episode from the Rise and Fall of Mars Hill featuring Josh Harris. In the Rise and Fall of Mars Hill, host Mike Cosper interviews Harris where they talk about church celebrity culture, deconstruction and Josh's rise in Evangelicalism. As the episode comes to a close there were some troubling statements made about deconstruction and the Evangelical Church so we recorded this episode to respond to them.

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26. Thanks for the Meme-ories with the Honest Youth Pastor

Mon, 16 Aug 2021 09:00:00 -0000

Michael, from The Honest Youth Pastor, sits down with Tim and discuss how the The Honest Youth Pastor came about. Michael, explains what he believes is the Biblical model for the church. Tim and Michael, also discuss how the issue of static doctrinal statements within churches can be problematic and helpful. Michael, explains how the issue of information overload in deconstruction, can often create confusion for a believer. He also found that Progressive Christianity was more harmful than Fundementalist Christianity. He and Tim, debate the spectrum between those two extremes and the need for discussion and education for informed decision-making

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25. Centering the Gospel of Jesus on the Oppressed with Rev. Megan Madsen

Mon, 09 Aug 2021 09:00:00 -0000

Megan Madsen, a Wesleyan theologian, discusses with Tim whether or not social justice is Biblical justice. From the Hebrew Bible to the Gospels, Megan breaks down how Judaism viewed injustice and how God expected Israel to respond to oppression of any kind. Megan, also reorients believers to an oppressed centered gospel in which the Spirit of God moves through a believer and accomplishes good deeds through them. She points out that modern Evangelicalism is centered on the white, male, heteronormative, Christian, captialist model and the gospel must benefit that believer. This is in contrast to the believer being beneficial to those around them, especially the most vulnerable in society.

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24. The Psychology of Abusive Leadership with Dr. Katie Blake

Mon, 02 Aug 2021 09:00:00 -0000

Dr. Katie, professor and researcher as well as master level yoga instructor, breaks down how Evangelical spaces can co-opt our identities and provide breeding grounds for abusive authority. Dr. Katie, explains early childhood development and how that creates our formation of identity. Identity, she argues, influences what kind of relational intimacy we have as adults. Tim and Dr. Katie, explore how churches, by their very nature of subjective truth, have a greater influence than authority figures who operate from objective fact. This pushes the average church goer to conform. Dr. Katie and Tim, look at how to do embodiment integration especially for women in deconstruction spaces who were survivors of spiritual abuse/trauma.

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23. Capitalism Sucks, Change My Mind with Jamin Hubner

Mon, 26 Jul 2021 09:30:00 -0000

Jamin Andreas Hubner, professor and researcher of economics , breaks down what capitalism is and how it isn’t compatible with a Biblical ethic. Jamin and Tim define some of the economic terms used in Evangelical spaces and what they really mean. They also explain how capitalism creates a coercion of labor due to the inequities in an economic system based on the employee and employer model. Jamin, then, describes an old buy forgotten model of the cooperative model in business and how it better meets the Biblical ethic of loving your neighbor.

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22. The Six Way Fracturing of Evangelicalism with Mike Graham

Mon, 19 Jul 2021 09:00:00 -0000

On this episode Tim sits down with pastor, author and podcast producer, Mike Graham, who penned the article on The Gospel Coalition Network called The Six Way Fracturing of Evangelism which dissects the breakdown of Evangelism during the last election cycle. Mike is the executive pastor of Orlando Grace Church in Orlando, Florida and produces a podcast called As It Is In Heaven. Mike and Tim discuss the concept behind the article and where it originated. Mike, explains in a comprehensive way how deconstruction fits into this six category model.

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21. Rescuing Women from Bad Sex with Sheila Gregoire

Mon, 12 Jul 2021 10:45:00 -0000

Sheila Gregoire, author of The Great Sex Rescue and the Facebook page To Love, Honor and Vacuum, is back to break down the misleading issues in Evangelical literature about marriage and sex. Beginning with her background, Sheila explains how the book The Great Sex Rescue became one of the first comprehensive scientific surveys on Evangelical Christian women’s sexual mental well-being and pleasure. Sheila and Tim explore the myths and harmful influences of these well known marriage books by Evangelical Christian authors.

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Sheila, begins by giving background on how her venture into the world of Christian women’s sexuality began. She explains how the book The Great Sex Rescue came about. Her research for the book used the first of its kind scientific survey to gauge women’s sexual satisfaction, women’s marriage health and women’s overall view of sex. Sheila, identifies four problems within the literature of well known Christian authors: The most damaging being sex is primarily for men, women were experiencing pleasure 47% less than the rate of their husbands, physical explanations for lack of pleasure not addressed, and myths about women’s sexuality. Sheila, goes on to explain how those books were not scientifically analyzed but used faulty interpretation of the data of peer reviewed material. Tim and Sheila look at the myths promoted in these well known books such as: Men have no self-control and therefore their wives must satisfy their sexual needs without a consideration of their own, issues of consent in marriage exploited by these authors, the dehumanization of men by portraying them as sex crazed maniacs, and how a woman’s painful intercourse isn’t tied to her need for non-intercourse stimulation.

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Emergency Broadcast: I AGREE With Allie Stuckey?!

Thu, 01 Jul 2021 10:45:00 -0000

A few weeks ago I asked social media if someone could please tell me what the phrase "Social justice is not Biblical justice" meant and it did not disappoint. Allie Stuckey shared my post and told me she had just the podcast episode. So I decided to listen to it and give my thoughts on episode 146 of the Allie Stuckey show titled "What is Biblical Justice"

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19. Leaving Evangelicalism and Christian Music Behind with Jon Steingard

Mon, 28 Jun 2021 10:45:00 -0000

On this episode I brought Jonathan Steingard on the show to discuss his time with the Christian band Hawk Nelson. Jon has a unique perspective because he’s experience sides of the Christian culture and music industry that many of us don’t see. John and I talk about his time in Hawk Nelson and what it was like to deconstruct his faith while being the face of a popular Christian band.

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18. Why Christians Should Care About Pride Month With Bridget Rivera

Mon, 21 Jun 2021 10:45:00 -0000

Author Bridget Rivera comes back on the show to talk about Pride Month and why Christians should care about it. As someone in the LGBTQ+ Community and a devoted Jesus follower, Bridget offers a perspective that Christians should pay attention to. Bridget’s Book Heavy Burdens comes out this October.

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17. I'd Rather Be an Atheist than a Calvinist with Tripp Fuller

Mon, 14 Jun 2021 10:45:00 -0000

On this episode I interview theologian, author and mega nerd (his words) Tripp Fuller. Tripp and I talk about the 4 gospels and how they don’t all agree on the same facts and how that’s ok. We talk about finding the divine in both inside and outside the Christian faith and at the end, Tripp picks my brain on The New Evangelicals and why I I started it. Tripp’s newest book is called Divine Self-Investment: An Open and Relational Constructive Christology Studies in Open and Relational Theology and is available everywhere.

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16. A Dialogue with Anti-Mask Pastor Samuel Deuth of Awaken Church

Mon, 07 Jun 2021 10:55:00 -0000

This is a new series that I will be doing throughout the New Evangelicals Podcast. I believe it is essential to dialogue with the other side of the Chrsitian spectrum, to ask questons and to hear what they have to say. On this episode I interview Samuel Deuth who is a Pastor at Awaken Church in California. Samuel believes that Christians should resist tyranny and oppression by resisting mask wearing both and inside and outside buildings. Samuel’s Church has hosted Charlie Kirk and will be hosting Candace Owens this summer. I had a lot of questions for Samuel and he was kind enough to come on to answer them.

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15. Hijacked by Fundamentalism, Christian Humanism and a Better Path Forward with David Gushee.

Mon, 31 May 2021 11:00:00 -0000

I interviewed the father of deconstructing (my title not his) Dr. David Gushee and let me tell you friends, it did not disappoint. David is well known in academic circles for writing several textbooks that are still widely used in colleges today including the book Kingdom Ethics. However, over time, David found himself more at odds with the fundamentalist take over the evangelicalism and when he wrote his LGBTQ affirming book, changing our minds, he was promptly kicked out. Since then David has spent his time writing After Evangelicalism and giving the deconstruction community better language for what they’ve experienced.

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14. Did God Really Create the World in Six Literal Days?Were Adam and Eve the First Two Humans on Earth? And How Do We Interpret the Bible on its Terms with Dr. John Walton

Mon, 24 May 2021 11:00:00 -0000

On this episode I sat down with the legendary John Walton who is an expert in the Old Testament and who has written over 30 books about his work. John and I dig deep into Genesis 1, talk about Adam and Eve and John offers incredible insight on major narratives in the Bible that our western eyes often miss.

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BONUS EPISODE: I Just Want Real Friends. Featuring Every Podcast Host You Know

Thu, 20 May 2021 11:55:00 -0000

On this episode Joey from the Dismantle Podcast asked several podcast hosts in his network to join him for a mega 90 day fiancé TELL ALL style episode. So that's what we did. We talk about our Church experience, losing friends and how we've found new friends through this deconstruction network.

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13. My Child Just Came Out. Now What? How Love Makes Room with Staci Frenes

Mon, 17 May 2021 11:55:00 -0000

I sat down with Staci Frenes author of Love Makes Room which documents Staci’s journey of moving from a non-affirming to an affirming position when her daughter came out. Staci and I talk about the painful journey of losing friends in the Evangelical Church over this decision and how she and her daughter have found healing on the other side along with understanding that God’s love is bigger and wider than what we are sometimes lead to believe.

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12. Women Rising and Taking Down the Patriarchy with Meghan Tschanz

Mon, 10 May 2021 11:50:00 -0000

On this episode Meghan Tschanz, author of Women Rising, joins me to talk about her journey growing up in a conservative, patriarchal church environment and having her world rocked as she traveled the globe with the mission’s organization the world race. Meghan’s story is powerful, heartbreaking and hopeful.

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11. I Just Left My Church, Now What? With Tim Whitaker

Mon, 03 May 2021 11:50:00 -0000

This is a very personal episode for me. On this episode my friend Will from the Space Between Podcast came on to interview me around my recent departure from my Church of six years. We talk about my backstory and the events leading up to my departure, dealing with Church hurt and where I’m at now. Honest and transparency are a core value for me and this episode is me doing that to the best of my ability.

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10. A New Kind of Christian Music and Queer Christianity with Grace Baldridge (Semler Music)

Mon, 26 Apr 2021 11:50:00 -0000

On this episode I interview Grace Baldridge who’s artist name is Semler. Grace is a queer Christian who released a worship album that ranked #1 on iTunes. We talked about her experience in the Church as someone in the LGBTQ+ community, writing raw and honest music as worship to the Creator and how to push the Church forward to be more inclusive of a community that has often been ostracized and attacked by the American Evangelical Church.

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9. Multiple Gods in the Bible, A Divine Council and Why is the Bible So Weird with Dr. Michael Heiser

Mon, 19 Apr 2021 11:55:00 -0000

Theology nerds! This episode is for you! I talk to Dr. Michael Heiser who’s expertise is the nature of the spiritual realm in the Bible, namely the Divine Councill and the hierarchy of the spiritual order. If you thought the Bible was weird then buckle up because it’s about to get really weird. Dr. Heiser runs his own podcast, The Naked Bible and is also the Executive Director of the School of Ministry at Celebration Church in Jacksonville, Florida.

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8. Decolonizing Oversea's Missions, The Church Persecution Complex and Surviving a Pandemic with Peter Lublink

Mon, 12 Apr 2021 11:45:00 -0000

On this episode I brought my friend Peter on to talk about the Church persecution complex, Church culture and how to decolonize overseas missions. Peter is the executive director of Bethany kids which is a compassionate Christian mission transforming the lives of African children with surgical conditions and disabilities through pediatric surgery, rehabilitation, public education, spiritual ministry and training health professionals.

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5 Myths on Purity Culture

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7. Purity Culture and Bad Sex with Dr. Camden Morgante

Mon, 05 Apr 2021 11:50:00 -0000

On this episode I interviewed Dr. Camden Morgante who is a licensed psychologist with a focus on dismantling the harm that purity culture has caused millions of people. We talk about Dr. Camden’s article titled ”The 5 Purity Culture Myths”, healing from purity culture and ways we can teach our kids a healthy view of human sexuality.

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6. Emergency Broadcast: Satanic Panic, Sneakers and Evangelical Outrage Culture with Bridget Rivera

Tue, 30 Mar 2021 15:39:18 -0000

On this emergency episode I brought on Bridget Rivera @travelingNun) to talk about the recent Lil Nas X controversy and the Evangelical Church’s reaction to it. Bridget is a Christian a lesbian and is currently PHD’ing (stole from her bio). She has served as a committee member for Revoice and worked with other faith-based organizations such as Christians for Social Action and the Center for Faith, Sexuality, and Gender. Bridget also has a book coming out called Heavy Burden 7 Ways LGBTQ Christians Experience Harm in the Church. It’s now available for pre-order

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5. Deconstructing into Atheism with Will from Heretical Theology

Mon, 29 Mar 2021 12:00:00 -0000

Will Thorpe from @Heretical_Theology joins me to share his journey from fundamentalist Christianity all the way into atheism. This episode isn’t about debating which worldview is right. Instead this is about Will being able to share his story and his perspective so we can listen and learn.

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4. Exposing Sexual Abuse in the Evangelical Church with Eric Skwarczynski Host of the Preacher Boys Podcast

Fri, 26 Mar 2021 12:00:00 -0000

On this episode I had Eric Skwarczynski from the Preacher Boys Podcast join me to talk about his work uncovering the rampant sexual abuse in the Evangelical Church, specifically in the Independent Fundamental Baptist movement. Eric is doing the hard but necessary work to uncover how the IFB moves abusers around, covers up abuse and even has a “rehab” for abusers run by…an abuser!

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3. The Deconstruction Rabbit Hole with Phil Drysdale

Mon, 22 Mar 2021 08:00:00 -0000

Phil Drysdale runs the deconstruction network and is devoted to helping people deconstruct their faith. Phil was deep in the evangelical movement for decades and his story is full of twists and turns. For those deconstructing, this is the episode to listen to. Phil has great language and perspective on this often scary situation that many have found themselves in. We talk about what deconstructing is (and isn’t) what it can look like (or doesn’t look like) and Phil shares some surprising statistics on the type of people that are deconstructing (HINT: It’s not the the uncommitted Christian)

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2. Toxic Theology, Church Hurt and the Divinity of Christ with Jo Luehmann

Fri, 19 Mar 2021 08:00:00 -0000

Jo Luehmann is a former pastor and is working to dismantle systems of oppression and toxic theology (stole that from her Instagram bio). Jo is someone with not only a powerful story but who also has a perspective on the Christian faith that needs to be heard. We went deep on this one covering topics like the divinity of Christ, the Bible and deconstruction. One thing about Jo that I love is that she is committed to speaking the truth in love without dehumanizing those she disagrees with.

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1. Funny Videos, Evangelical Culture and Raising a Toddler during a Pandemic with Shama4Realz

Mon, 15 Mar 2021 08:00:00 -0000

Shama is a content creator on Instagram and Tik Tok who makes hilarious Christian satire videos. Tim sat down with Shama to talk about the process of creating content, disillusionment with the American Evangelical Church and why the Church, in Shama’s view, is still worth saving.

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