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    <title>Nobody Should Believe Me</title>
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    <description>Author Andrea Dunlop is looking for answers. When her older sister was first investigated for Munchausen by Proxy abuse more than a decade ago, it tore her family apart. This catastrophic series of events sent Dunlop on a journey to understand this most taboo form of abuse. In this groundbreaking podcast, she talks to some of the top experts in the world to explore the criminology and psychopathology behind Munchausen by Proxy and to reveal the wide swath of destruction these perpetrators leave in their wake.
In each season, Dunlop investigates a case: speaking to friends, family members, doctors, law enforcement, child protection workers, and experts. Nobody Should Believe Me unravels these complex and terrifying stories, shedding light on an unspeakable crime.
"A rich and harrowing chronicle of the condition." --The New York Times
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    <itunes:summary>Author Andrea Dunlop is looking for answers. When her older sister was first investigated for Munchausen by Proxy abuse more than a decade ago, it tore her family apart. This catastrophic series of events sent Dunlop on a journey to understand this most taboo form of abuse. In this groundbreaking podcast, she talks to some of the top experts in the world to explore the criminology and psychopathology behind Munchausen by Proxy and to reveal the wide swath of destruction these perpetrators leave in their wake.
In each season, Dunlop investigates a case: speaking to friends, family members, doctors, law enforcement, child protection workers, and experts. Nobody Should Believe Me unravels these complex and terrifying stories, shedding light on an unspeakable crime.
"A rich and harrowing chronicle of the condition." --The New York Times
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      <![CDATA[<p>Author Andrea Dunlop is looking for answers. When her older sister was first investigated for Munchausen by Proxy abuse more than a decade ago, it tore her family apart. This catastrophic series of events sent Dunlop on a journey to understand this most taboo form of abuse. In this groundbreaking podcast, she talks to some of the top experts in the world to explore the criminology and psychopathology behind Munchausen by Proxy and to reveal the wide swath of destruction these perpetrators leave in their wake.</p><p>In each season, Dunlop investigates a case: speaking to friends, family members, doctors, law enforcement, child protection workers, and experts. Nobody Should Believe Me unravels these complex and terrifying stories, shedding light on an unspeakable crime.</p><p><strong>"A rich and harrowing chronicle of the condition." </strong>--<em>The New York Times</em></p><p>​ ​ (LM032423)</p>]]>
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      <itunes:email>Andrea@andreadunlop.net</itunes:email>
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      <title>S07 E06: The Experts</title>
      <description>Child abuse pediatricians have become increasingly villainized in the media despite being among the most specialized and cautious doctors in child abuse medicine. Andrea looks at what these doctors actually do and why their role is so often misunderstood.

Andrea also explores the rise of paid defense experts who offer alternative explanations in abuse cases that fall far outside the medical consensus. 

Featuring Experts:


  Dr. Stephen Boos, Child Abuse Pediatrician

  Matthew Torbenson, Assistant District Attorney

  Dr. Jill Glick, Child Abuse Pediatrician


***

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy: https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/

View our sponsors: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/

Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have bonus content: https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod

Follow Andrea on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/

Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit: https://www.munchausensupport.com/

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2026 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>7</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Child abuse pediatricians have become increasingly villainized in the media despite being among the most specialized and cautious doctors in child abuse medicine. Andrea looks at what these doctors actually do and why their role is so often misunderstood.

Andrea also explores the rise of paid defense experts who offer alternative explanations in abuse cases that fall far outside the medical consensus. 

Featuring Experts:


  Dr. Stephen Boos, Child Abuse Pediatrician

  Matthew Torbenson, Assistant District Attorney

  Dr. Jill Glick, Child Abuse Pediatrician


***

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy: https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/

View our sponsors: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/

Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have bonus content: https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod

Follow Andrea on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/

Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit: https://www.munchausensupport.com/

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Child abuse pediatricians have become increasingly villainized in the media despite being among the most specialized and cautious doctors in child abuse medicine. Andrea looks at what these doctors actually do and why their role is so often misunderstood.</p>
<p>Andrea also explores the rise of paid defense experts who offer alternative explanations in abuse cases that fall far outside the medical consensus. </p>
<p>Featuring Experts:</p>
<ul>
  <li>Dr. Stephen Boos, Child Abuse Pediatrician</li>
  <li>Matthew Torbenson, Assistant District Attorney</li>
  <li>Dr. Jill Glick, Child Abuse Pediatrician</li>
</ul>
<p>***</p>
<p>Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: <a href="https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster"><u>https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy: <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"><u>https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/</u></a></p>
<p>View our sponsors: <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"><u>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/</u></a></p>
<p>Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on YouTube where we have bonus content: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"><u>https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod</u></a></p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"><u>https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"><u>https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI</u></a></p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit: <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"><u>https://www.munchausensupport.com/</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines: <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"><u>https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf</u></a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Introducing: Love Trapped</title>
      <description>Infamous Bachelor Clayton Echard’s real drama began after the rose. He left the show disgraced and determined to start over. That’s when a one-night fling spiraled into a nightmare that would lead Clayton into a years-long battle to prove the truth. Host and reporter Stephani Young investigates the twisted case.   

If you would like to reach out to the Love Trapped team, email them at lovetrappedpod@gmail.com and follow along on Instagram @glasspodcasts.

If you or someone you know is struggling with thoughts of suicide, you are not alone. Help is available. If you’re in the US, call or text The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988. 

***

Listen to Love Trapped: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/love-trapped/id1878220033
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2026 16:39:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>7</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Infamous Bachelor Clayton Echard’s real drama began after the rose. He left the show disgraced and determined to start over. That’s when a one-night fling spiraled into a nightmare that would lead Clayton into a years-long battle to prove the truth. Host and reporter Stephani Young investigates the twisted case.   

If you would like to reach out to the Love Trapped team, email them at lovetrappedpod@gmail.com and follow along on Instagram @glasspodcasts.

If you or someone you know is struggling with thoughts of suicide, you are not alone. Help is available. If you’re in the US, call or text The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988. 

***

Listen to Love Trapped: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/love-trapped/id1878220033
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Infamous Bachelor Clayton Echard’s real drama began <em>after </em>the rose. He left the show disgraced and determined to start over. That’s when a one-night fling spiraled into a nightmare that would lead Clayton into a years-long battle to prove the truth. Host and reporter Stephani Young investigates the twisted case.   </p>
<p>If you would like to reach out to the Love Trapped team, email them at <a href="mailto:lovedtrappedpod@gmail.com">lovetrappedpod@gmail.com</a> and follow along on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/glasspodcasts/">@glasspodcasts</a>.</p>
<p>If you or someone you know is struggling with thoughts of suicide, you are not alone. Help is available. If you’re in the US, call or text The National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 988. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Listen to Love Trapped: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/love-trapped/id1878220033</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2935</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S07 E05: Beyond a Reasonable Doubt</title>
      <description>John Stewart is arrested shortly after Knowellan’s death, but despite what appears to be strong evidence of abuse, the case against John is never taken to court. Andrea traces how we ended up here, ten years later, with no one held accountable for taking the life of a child.

Featuring Experts:


  Dr. Sally Smith, Child Abuse Pediatrician

  Mike Weber, Former Crimes Against Children Detective

  Dr. Cathy Ayoub, Nurse Practitioner and Professor of Psychology at Harvard

  Matthew Torbenson, Assistant District Attorney


***

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy: https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/

View our sponsors: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/

Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have bonus content: https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod

Follow Andrea on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/

Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit: https://www.munchausensupport.com/

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2026 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>7</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>John Stewart is arrested shortly after Knowellan’s death, but despite what appears to be strong evidence of abuse, the case against John is never taken to court. Andrea traces how we ended up here, ten years later, with no one held accountable for taking the life of a child.

Featuring Experts:


  Dr. Sally Smith, Child Abuse Pediatrician

  Mike Weber, Former Crimes Against Children Detective

  Dr. Cathy Ayoub, Nurse Practitioner and Professor of Psychology at Harvard

  Matthew Torbenson, Assistant District Attorney


***

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy: https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/

View our sponsors: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/

Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have bonus content: https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod

Follow Andrea on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/

Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit: https://www.munchausensupport.com/

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>John Stewart is arrested shortly after Knowellan’s death, but despite what appears to be strong evidence of abuse, the case against John is never taken to court. Andrea traces how we ended up here, ten years later, with no one held accountable for taking the life of a child.</p>
<p>Featuring Experts:</p>
<ul>
  <li>Dr. Sally Smith, Child Abuse Pediatrician</li>
  <li>Mike Weber, Former Crimes Against Children Detective</li>
  <li>Dr. Cathy Ayoub, Nurse Practitioner and Professor of Psychology at Harvard</li>
  <li>Matthew Torbenson, Assistant District Attorney</li>
</ul>
<p>***</p>
<p>Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: <a href="https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster"><u>https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy: <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"><u>https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/</u></a></p>
<p>View our sponsors: <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"><u>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/</u></a></p>
<p>Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on YouTube where we have bonus content: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"><u>https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod</u></a></p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"><u>https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"><u>https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI</u></a></p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit: <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"><u>https://www.munchausensupport.com/</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines: <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"><u>https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf</u></a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>4593</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>Introducing: Truer Crime</title>
      <description>On Easter Sunday in 1993, the Southern Ohio Correctional Facility in Lucasville erupted into chaos. Tensions between prisoners and staff had reached a breaking point, sparking one of the longest prison sieges in U.S. history. Over eleven days, nine inmates and one corrections officer would lose their lives. But what caused the riot? And for the hundreds trapped inside, what did it mean to survive it? Today’s episode kicks off a month-long exploration of the Lucasville uprising. An event that put all eyes on Ohio, and left one man reeling in its wake.

***

Listen to Truer Crime: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/truer-crime/id1565741041
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2026 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>7</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>On Easter Sunday in 1993, the Southern Ohio Correctional Facility in Lucasville erupted into chaos. Tensions between prisoners and staff had reached a breaking point, sparking one of the longest prison sieges in U.S. history. Over eleven days, nine inmates and one corrections officer would lose their lives. But what caused the riot? And for the hundreds trapped inside, what did it mean to survive it? Today’s episode kicks off a month-long exploration of the Lucasville uprising. An event that put all eyes on Ohio, and left one man reeling in its wake.

***

Listen to Truer Crime: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/truer-crime/id1565741041
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>On Easter Sunday in 1993, the Southern Ohio Correctional Facility in Lucasville erupted into chaos. Tensions between prisoners and staff had reached a breaking point, sparking one of the longest prison sieges in U.S. history. Over eleven days, nine inmates and one corrections officer would lose their lives. But what caused the riot? And for the hundreds trapped inside, what did it mean to survive it? Today’s episode kicks off a month-long exploration of the Lucasville uprising. An event that put all eyes on Ohio, and left one man reeling in its wake.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Listen to Truer Crime: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/truer-crime/id1565741041</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1770</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S07 E04: Something was Wrong</title>
      <description>Investigators work to reconstruct Knowellan Kelly’s final hours in the care of John Stewart and his grandfather. John claims there is exculpatory evidence that proves he didn’t hurt Knowellen, but is that really the story the evidence tells? 

Featuring:


  Dr. Sally Smith, Child Abuse Pediatrician

  Dr. Russell Vega, Medical Examiner


***

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      <pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2026 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>7</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Investigators work to reconstruct Knowellan Kelly’s final hours in the care of John Stewart and his grandfather. John claims there is exculpatory evidence that proves he didn’t hurt Knowellen, but is that really the story the evidence tells? 

Featuring:


  Dr. Sally Smith, Child Abuse Pediatrician

  Dr. Russell Vega, Medical Examiner


***

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        <![CDATA[<p>Investigators work to reconstruct Knowellan Kelly’s final hours in the care of John Stewart and his grandfather. John claims there is exculpatory evidence that proves he didn’t hurt Knowellen, but is that really the story the evidence tells? </p>
<p>Featuring:</p>
<ul>
  <li>Dr. Sally Smith, Child Abuse Pediatrician</li>
  <li>Dr. Russell Vega, Medical Examiner</li>
</ul>
<p>***</p>
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      <title>S07 E03: Two Steps</title>
      <description>After 15-month old Knowellan Kelly is rushed to the hospital following a seizure, doctors discover catastrophic injuries. Andrea walks through the medical evidence with experts whose findings point to repeated inflicted trauma. As investigators struggle to reconcile conflicting accounts from John Stewart and Knowellan’s mother and grandfather, a tangled web emerges. 

Featuring:


  Dr. Sally Smith, Child Abuse Pediatrician

  Dr. Russell Vega, Medical Examiner

  Matthew Torbenson, Assistant District Attorney

  Dr. Stephen Boos, Child Abuse Pediatrician


***

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      <pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2026 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>7</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>After 15-month old Knowellan Kelly is rushed to the hospital following a seizure, doctors discover catastrophic injuries. Andrea walks through the medical evidence with experts whose findings point to repeated inflicted trauma. As investigators struggle to reconcile conflicting accounts from John Stewart and Knowellan’s mother and grandfather, a tangled web emerges. 

Featuring:


  Dr. Sally Smith, Child Abuse Pediatrician

  Dr. Russell Vega, Medical Examiner

  Matthew Torbenson, Assistant District Attorney

  Dr. Stephen Boos, Child Abuse Pediatrician


***

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        <![CDATA[<p>After 15-month old Knowellan Kelly is rushed to the hospital following a seizure, doctors discover catastrophic injuries. Andrea walks through the medical evidence with experts whose findings point to repeated inflicted trauma. As investigators struggle to reconcile conflicting accounts from John Stewart and Knowellan’s mother and grandfather, a tangled web emerges. </p>
<p>Featuring:</p>
<ul>
  <li>Dr. Sally Smith, Child Abuse Pediatrician</li>
  <li>Dr. Russell Vega, Medical Examiner</li>
  <li>Matthew Torbenson, Assistant District Attorney</li>
  <li>Dr. Stephen Boos, Child Abuse Pediatrician</li>
</ul>
<p>***</p>
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      <title>S07 E02: What Happened to Knowellan Kelly?</title>
      <description>After John Stewart, a Florida man charged with–but never prosecuted for–the death of his girlfriend's 15-month old son reaches out to Andrea to tell her she’s all wrong about his case Andrea goes on a deep dive to find out what really happened to Knowellan Kelly, the baby who lost his life ten years ago. John–who was featured in Take Care of Maya–claims that doctors and investigators falsely accused him: but the truth turns out to be much more complicated. 

***

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      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2026 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>7</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>After John Stewart, a Florida man charged with–but never prosecuted for–the death of his girlfriend's 15-month old son reaches out to Andrea to tell her she’s all wrong about his case Andrea goes on a deep dive to find out what really happened to Knowellan Kelly, the baby who lost his life ten years ago. John–who was featured in Take Care of Maya–claims that doctors and investigators falsely accused him: but the truth turns out to be much more complicated. 

***

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        <![CDATA[<p>After John Stewart, a Florida man charged with–but never prosecuted for–the death of his girlfriend's 15-month old son reaches out to Andrea to tell her she’s all wrong about his case Andrea goes on a deep dive to find out what really happened to Knowellan Kelly, the baby who lost his life ten years ago. John–who was featured in <em>Take Care of Maya–</em>claims that doctors and investigators falsely accused him: but the truth turns out to be much more complicated. </p>
<p>***</p>
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<p>View our sponsors: <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"><u>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/</u></a></p>
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      <title>S07 E01: The Catalyst</title>
      <description>Welcome to Season Seven of Nobody Should Believe Me. Andrea revisits the case of Maya Kowalski—the story at the center of the Netflix film Take Care of Maya–and the family’s high-profile lawsuit against Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital. What became widely framed as a story about “medical kidnapping” began when hospital staff reported suspected medical child abuse after Maya arrived with a history of extreme ketamine treatments. 

How did a case of horrific abuse become a story about evil doctors kidnapping children?

Featuring:


  Ethen Shapiro, Attorney for Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital


***

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Listen to our season 3 coverage of the Kowalski Case: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/s03-e01-special-report-watching-take-care-of-maya-re-release/id1615637188

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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2026 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>7</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Welcome to Season Seven of Nobody Should Believe Me. Andrea revisits the case of Maya Kowalski—the story at the center of the Netflix film Take Care of Maya–and the family’s high-profile lawsuit against Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital. What became widely framed as a story about “medical kidnapping” began when hospital staff reported suspected medical child abuse after Maya arrived with a history of extreme ketamine treatments. 

How did a case of horrific abuse become a story about evil doctors kidnapping children?

Featuring:


  Ethen Shapiro, Attorney for Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital


***

Listen to our 4-part recap of the Kowalski Case: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/revisiting-kowalski-part-one-the-turn/id1615637188?i=1000750439578

Listen to our season 3 coverage of the Kowalski Case: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/s03-e01-special-report-watching-take-care-of-maya-re-release/id1615637188

Listen to Andrea and Dr. Bex’s coverage of the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins Trial: https://www.patreon.com/collection/548199

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy: https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/

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Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

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The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Welcome to Season Seven of Nobody Should Believe Me. Andrea revisits the case of Maya Kowalski—the story at the center of the Netflix film <em>Take Care of Maya</em>–and the family’s high-profile lawsuit against Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital. What became widely framed as a story about “medical kidnapping” began when hospital staff reported suspected medical child abuse after Maya arrived with a history of extreme ketamine treatments. </p>
<p>How did a case of horrific abuse become a story about evil doctors kidnapping children?</p>
<p>Featuring:</p>
<ul>
  <li>Ethen Shapiro, Attorney for Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital</li>
</ul>
<p>***</p>
<p>Listen to our 4-part recap of the Kowalski Case: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/revisiting-kowalski-part-one-the-turn/id1615637188?i=1000750439578"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/revisiting-kowalski-part-one-the-turn/id1615637188?i=1000750439578</u></a></p>
<p>Listen to our season 3 coverage of the Kowalski Case: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/s03-e01-special-report-watching-take-care-of-maya-re-release/id1615637188"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/s03-e01-special-report-watching-take-care-of-maya-re-release/id1615637188</u></a></p>
<p>Listen to Andrea and Dr. Bex’s coverage of the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins Trial: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/collection/548199"><u>https://www.patreon.com/collection/548199</u></a></p>
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      <title>Season 7 Trailer</title>
      <description>Season 7 of the groundbreaking true crime podcast Nobody Should Believe Me investigates why so many Americans believe doctors are “medically kidnapping” children from innocent parents.

Florida man John Stewart insists he was falsely accused of the murder of 15-month-old Knowellan Kelly—a story media outlets and documentary filmmakers have echoed in sympathetic portrayals. But a months-long investigation into the case, including interviews with the doctors involved and with Stewart himself, reveals a far more complicated story of violence, deception, and injustice.

Season 7 asks the questions others didn’t: what really happened to Knowellan Kelly?

As the season unfolds, Stewart’s case leads us into a disturbing ecosystem of parents who claim they were falsely accused of abuse, alongside fringe medical experts and hardline parents’ rights activists. Together, they are fueling conspiracy theories about “evil” child abuse pediatricians and successfully advocating for laws that undermine child abuse investigations and weaken protections for vulnerable children.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2026 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>trailer</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>7</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Season 7 of the groundbreaking true crime podcast Nobody Should Believe Me investigates why so many Americans believe doctors are “medically kidnapping” children from innocent parents.

Florida man John Stewart insists he was falsely accused of the murder of 15-month-old Knowellan Kelly—a story media outlets and documentary filmmakers have echoed in sympathetic portrayals. But a months-long investigation into the case, including interviews with the doctors involved and with Stewart himself, reveals a far more complicated story of violence, deception, and injustice.

Season 7 asks the questions others didn’t: what really happened to Knowellan Kelly?

As the season unfolds, Stewart’s case leads us into a disturbing ecosystem of parents who claim they were falsely accused of abuse, alongside fringe medical experts and hardline parents’ rights activists. Together, they are fueling conspiracy theories about “evil” child abuse pediatricians and successfully advocating for laws that undermine child abuse investigations and weaken protections for vulnerable children.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>Season 7 of the groundbreaking true crime podcast Nobody Should Believe Me investigates why so many Americans believe doctors are “medically kidnapping” children from innocent parents.</strong></p>
<p>Florida man John Stewart insists he was falsely accused of the murder of 15-month-old Knowellan Kelly—a story media outlets and documentary filmmakers have echoed in sympathetic portrayals. But a months-long investigation into the case, including interviews with the doctors involved and with Stewart himself, reveals a far more complicated story of violence, deception, and injustice.</p>
<p>Season 7 asks the questions others didn’t: <strong>what really happened to Knowellan Kelly?</strong></p>
<p>As the season unfolds, Stewart’s case leads us into a disturbing ecosystem of parents who claim they were falsely accused of abuse, alongside fringe medical experts and hardline parents’ rights activists. Together, they are fueling conspiracy theories about “evil” child abuse pediatricians and successfully advocating for laws that undermine child abuse investigations and weaken protections for vulnerable children.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Revisiting Kowalski Part Four: The Aftermath</title>
      <description>In this final recap episode, we revisit the final months of Maya Kowalski’s sheltering at Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital and the tragic events that followed. While the dependency case and abuse investigation continued, tensions within the Kowalski family were escalating. After a difficult court hearing in January 2017, Beata Kowalski died by suicide, leaving behind emails asking others to “take care of Maya”.

Following Beata’s death, Maya was eventually released to her father’s custody, where she continued to improve and was able to return to school without further ketamine treatment. In the years that followed, the Kowalski family filed a lawsuit against the hospital that would ultimately lead to a high-profile trial, widespread media coverage, and the Netflix documentary Take Care of Maya.

***

Just a note that today’s episode includes mention and description of suicide. If you or someone you know needs help please call 988 or visit 988lifeline.org

***

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      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2026 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/cd4e42ea-1da1-11f1-9651-df931f3cb350/image/de198ad4311fa146fac01e8926b9b1bf.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this final recap episode, we revisit the final months of Maya Kowalski’s sheltering at Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital and the tragic events that followed. While the dependency case and abuse investigation continued, tensions within the Kowalski family were escalating. After a difficult court hearing in January 2017, Beata Kowalski died by suicide, leaving behind emails asking others to “take care of Maya”.

Following Beata’s death, Maya was eventually released to her father’s custody, where she continued to improve and was able to return to school without further ketamine treatment. In the years that followed, the Kowalski family filed a lawsuit against the hospital that would ultimately lead to a high-profile trial, widespread media coverage, and the Netflix documentary Take Care of Maya.

***

Just a note that today’s episode includes mention and description of suicide. If you or someone you know needs help please call 988 or visit 988lifeline.org

***

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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this final recap episode, we revisit the final months of Maya Kowalski’s sheltering at Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital and the tragic events that followed. While the dependency case and abuse investigation continued, tensions within the Kowalski family were escalating. After a difficult court hearing in January 2017, Beata Kowalski died by suicide, leaving behind emails asking others to “take care of Maya”.</p>
<p>Following Beata’s death, Maya was eventually released to her father’s custody, where she continued to improve and was able to return to school without further ketamine treatment. In the years that followed, the Kowalski family filed a lawsuit against the hospital that would ultimately lead to a high-profile trial, widespread media coverage, and the Netflix documentary <em>Take Care of Maya</em>.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p><strong>Just a note that today’s episode includes mention and description of suicide. If you or someone you know needs help please call 988 or visit</strong><a href="http://988lifeline.org"><strong> 988lifeline.org</strong></a></p>
<p>***</p>
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<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
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      <title>Revisiting Kowalski Part Three: The Breaking Point</title>
      <description>In the third part of our Kowalski recap, Andrea walks through the events that led to Maya’s hospitalization and what hospital staff observed in those first days. As doctors quickly became concerned about both Maya’s condition and the unusual treatments she had been receiving, the hospital brought in a child abuse pediatrician and an investigation into possible medical child abuse began. 

***

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      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2026 05:28:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/1e9f0880-1854-11f1-af23-d3538a13ca2e/image/de198ad4311fa146fac01e8926b9b1bf.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In the third part of our Kowalski recap, Andrea walks through the events that led to Maya’s hospitalization and what hospital staff observed in those first days. As doctors quickly became concerned about both Maya’s condition and the unusual treatments she had been receiving, the hospital brought in a child abuse pediatrician and an investigation into possible medical child abuse began. 

***

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        <![CDATA[<p>In the third part of our Kowalski recap, Andrea walks through the events that led to Maya’s hospitalization and what hospital staff observed in those first days. As doctors quickly became concerned about both Maya’s condition and the unusual treatments she had been receiving, the hospital brought in a child abuse pediatrician and an investigation into possible medical child abuse began. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: <a href="https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster"><u>https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
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<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Revisiting Kowalski Part Two: The Descent</title>
      <description>In this episode, Andrea sheds light on the disconnect between the narrative presented publicly vs the medical records and trial testimony. She traces how ketamine became the driving force in Maya Kowalski’s treatment from Dr. Anthony Kirkpatrick. What followed was a rapid escalation: four-day ketamine infusions, increasingly alarming blog posts written in Maya’s voice, and ultimately a controversial, high-dose ketamine coma in Mexico. This sets the stage for Maya’s arrival at Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital.

***

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      <pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2026 06:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Andrea sheds light on the disconnect between the narrative presented publicly vs the medical records and trial testimony. She traces how ketamine became the driving force in Maya Kowalski’s treatment from Dr. Anthony Kirkpatrick. What followed was a rapid escalation: four-day ketamine infusions, increasingly alarming blog posts written in Maya’s voice, and ultimately a controversial, high-dose ketamine coma in Mexico. This sets the stage for Maya’s arrival at Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital.

***

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Andrea sheds light on the disconnect between the narrative presented publicly vs the medical records and trial testimony. She traces how ketamine became the driving force in Maya Kowalski’s treatment from Dr. Anthony Kirkpatrick. What followed was a rapid escalation: four-day ketamine infusions, increasingly alarming blog posts written in Maya’s voice, and ultimately a controversial, high-dose ketamine coma in Mexico. This sets the stage for Maya’s arrival at Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: <a href="https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster"><u>https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Revisiting Kowalski Part One: The Turn</title>
      <description>Andrea has been following the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Children's case since it first received national attention, and previously covered it in depth in our third season. Within this 4-part series, we’re revisiting the case with the benefit of additional trial testimony, released records, and appellate developments. In this first part, we’re going back to 2015 to revisit the events that set this case in motion.

We’re sharing this recap now because the Kowalski case is directly relevant to themes we’ll be exploring in season 7 of Nobody Should Believe Me. The public conversation around this case—shaped by courtroom proceedings, media coverage, and documentary storytelling—has had broader implications for how medical child abuse allegations are understood and debated. 

***

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      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2026 06:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Andrea has been following the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Children's case since it first received national attention, and previously covered it in depth in our third season. Within this 4-part series, we’re revisiting the case with the benefit of additional trial testimony, released records, and appellate developments. In this first part, we’re going back to 2015 to revisit the events that set this case in motion.

We’re sharing this recap now because the Kowalski case is directly relevant to themes we’ll be exploring in season 7 of Nobody Should Believe Me. The public conversation around this case—shaped by courtroom proceedings, media coverage, and documentary storytelling—has had broader implications for how medical child abuse allegations are understood and debated. 

***

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The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Andrea has been following the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Children's case since it first received national attention, and previously covered it in depth in our third season. Within this 4-part series, we’re revisiting the case with the benefit of additional trial testimony, released records, and appellate developments. In this first part, we’re going back to 2015 to revisit the events that set this case in motion.</p>
<p>We’re sharing this recap now because the Kowalski case is directly relevant to themes we’ll be exploring in season 7 of Nobody Should Believe Me. The public conversation around this case—shaped by courtroom proceedings, media coverage, and documentary storytelling—has had broader implications for how medical child abuse allegations are understood and debated. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: <a href="https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster"><u>https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1946</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Cramped! With Kate Downey</title>
      <description>In this conversation, Kate Downey, the host and creator of the podcast Cramped, shares her personal journey with severe period pain and the challenges she faced in the medical system. She discusses the lack of understanding and research surrounding women's health issues and emphasizes the importance of advocacy, education, and open conversations about women's health. 

Kate and Andrea also explore the complicated overlap of visiting multiple doctors for unresolved symptoms vs doctor shopping in medical child abuse cases. They discuss how we can demand better research, better transparency, and better care.

***

Listen to Cramped: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cramped/id1778101696

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

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Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

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Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2026 07:08:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this conversation, Kate Downey, the host and creator of the podcast Cramped, shares her personal journey with severe period pain and the challenges she faced in the medical system. She discusses the lack of understanding and research surrounding women's health issues and emphasizes the importance of advocacy, education, and open conversations about women's health. 

Kate and Andrea also explore the complicated overlap of visiting multiple doctors for unresolved symptoms vs doctor shopping in medical child abuse cases. They discuss how we can demand better research, better transparency, and better care.

***

Listen to Cramped: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cramped/id1778101696

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this conversation, Kate Downey, the host and creator of the podcast <em>Cramped</em>, shares her personal journey with severe period pain and the challenges she faced in the medical system. She discusses the lack of understanding and research surrounding women's health issues and emphasizes the importance of advocacy, education, and open conversations about women's health. </p>
<p>Kate and Andrea also explore the complicated overlap of visiting multiple doctors for unresolved symptoms vs doctor shopping in medical child abuse cases. They discuss how we can demand better research, better transparency, and better care.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Listen to <em>Cramped: </em><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cramped/id1778101696"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cramped/id1778101696</u></a></p>
<p>Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: <a href="https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster"><u>https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>4805</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>Gypsy-Rose Blanchard Part 2</title>
      <description>In Part Two of Andrea’s conversation with Gypsy-Rose Blanchard, Gypsy reflects on systemic failures by doctors and child protective services and the long-term impact of being conditioned to fear helpers. She also shares what it’s been like to unlearn harmful coping mechanisms and build healthy relationships while reconnecting with family. Their conversation culminates in a hopeful note as Gypsy discusses her new role as a mother and her desire to create a positive legacy for her daughter.

* * *

https://www.officialgypsyroseblanchard.com/

Follow Gypsy on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gypsyrose.insta

Watch Mommy Dead and Dearest: https://www.hbomax.com/movies/mommy-dead-and-dearest/87b41129-1e1e-41ff-b32c-926711b94311

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2026 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In Part Two of Andrea’s conversation with Gypsy-Rose Blanchard, Gypsy reflects on systemic failures by doctors and child protective services and the long-term impact of being conditioned to fear helpers. She also shares what it’s been like to unlearn harmful coping mechanisms and build healthy relationships while reconnecting with family. Their conversation culminates in a hopeful note as Gypsy discusses her new role as a mother and her desire to create a positive legacy for her daughter.

* * *

https://www.officialgypsyroseblanchard.com/

Follow Gypsy on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gypsyrose.insta

Watch Mommy Dead and Dearest: https://www.hbomax.com/movies/mommy-dead-and-dearest/87b41129-1e1e-41ff-b32c-926711b94311

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In Part Two of Andrea’s conversation with Gypsy-Rose Blanchard, Gypsy reflects on systemic failures by doctors and child protective services and the long-term impact of being conditioned to fear helpers. She also shares what it’s been like to unlearn harmful coping mechanisms and build healthy relationships while reconnecting with family. Their conversation culminates in a hopeful note as Gypsy discusses her new role as a mother and her desire to create a positive legacy for her daughter.</p>
<p>* * *</p>
<p><a href="https://www.officialgypsyroseblanchard.com/"><u>https://www.officialgypsyroseblanchard.com/</u></a></p>
<p>Follow Gypsy on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/gypsyrose.insta"><u>https://www.instagram.com/gypsyrose.insta</u></a></p>
<p>Watch Mommy Dead and Dearest: <a href="https://www.hbomax.com/movies/mommy-dead-and-dearest/87b41129-1e1e-41ff-b32c-926711b94311"><u>https://www.hbomax.com/movies/mommy-dead-and-dearest/87b41129-1e1e-41ff-b32c-926711b94311</u></a></p>
<p>Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: <a href="https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster"><u>https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2533</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Gypsy-Rose Blanchard Part 1</title>
      <description>In this episode, Andrea talks with Gypsy Rose Blanchard about life after surviving Munchausen by proxy, incarceration, and becoming a public figure without her consent. Two years after her release from prison, Gypsy reflects on what it means to build a sense of self after years of extreme control, medical abuse, and sudden media attention. 

Their conversation explores the realities of Munchausen by proxy, including the systemic failures that allow abuse to continue and the long-term impact on survivors’ development, autonomy, and relationships. Gypsy shares what accountability and growth look like for her today. 

* * *

https://www.officialgypsyroseblanchard.com/

Follow Gypsy on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gypsyrose.insta

Watch Mommy Dead and Dearest: https://www.hbomax.com/movies/mommy-dead-and-dearest/87b41129-1e1e-41ff-b32c-926711b94311

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2026 06:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Andrea talks with Gypsy Rose Blanchard about life after surviving Munchausen by proxy, incarceration, and becoming a public figure without her consent. Two years after her release from prison, Gypsy reflects on what it means to build a sense of self after years of extreme control, medical abuse, and sudden media attention. 

Their conversation explores the realities of Munchausen by proxy, including the systemic failures that allow abuse to continue and the long-term impact on survivors’ development, autonomy, and relationships. Gypsy shares what accountability and growth look like for her today. 

* * *

https://www.officialgypsyroseblanchard.com/

Follow Gypsy on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/gypsyrose.insta

Watch Mommy Dead and Dearest: https://www.hbomax.com/movies/mommy-dead-and-dearest/87b41129-1e1e-41ff-b32c-926711b94311

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Andrea talks with Gypsy Rose Blanchard about life after surviving Munchausen by proxy, incarceration, and becoming a public figure without her consent. Two years after her release from prison, Gypsy reflects on what it means to build a sense of self after years of extreme control, medical abuse, and sudden media attention. </p>
<p>Their conversation explores the realities of Munchausen by proxy, including the systemic failures that allow abuse to continue and the long-term impact on survivors’ development, autonomy, and relationships. Gypsy shares what accountability and growth look like for her today. </p>
<p>* * *</p>
<p><a href="https://www.officialgypsyroseblanchard.com/"><u>https://www.officialgypsyroseblanchard.com/</u></a></p>
<p>Follow Gypsy on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/gypsyrose.insta"><u>https://www.instagram.com/gypsyrose.insta</u></a></p>
<p>Watch Mommy Dead and Dearest: <a href="https://www.hbomax.com/movies/mommy-dead-and-dearest/87b41129-1e1e-41ff-b32c-926711b94311"><u>https://www.hbomax.com/movies/mommy-dead-and-dearest/87b41129-1e1e-41ff-b32c-926711b94311</u></a></p>
<p>Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: <a href="https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster"><u>https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>The Lisa Campbell Goins Case with Mike Weber</title>
      <description>In this episode, Andrea is joined once again by retired detective and medical child abuse expert Mike Weber to discuss a case that closely mirrors patterns we saw in season 6 of the show. The conversation centers on a caregiver who presented a child as chronically and mysteriously ill, resulting in repeated hospitalizations and invasive medical interventions. 

Together, Andrea and Mike examine the systemic failures that allowed the abuse to continue despite prior warnings, including gaps in CPS oversight, lack of training, and reluctance to act without a catastrophic trigger. 

* * *

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2026 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Andrea is joined once again by retired detective and medical child abuse expert Mike Weber to discuss a case that closely mirrors patterns we saw in season 6 of the show. The conversation centers on a caregiver who presented a child as chronically and mysteriously ill, resulting in repeated hospitalizations and invasive medical interventions. 

Together, Andrea and Mike examine the systemic failures that allowed the abuse to continue despite prior warnings, including gaps in CPS oversight, lack of training, and reluctance to act without a catastrophic trigger. 

* * *

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Andrea is joined once again by retired detective and medical child abuse expert Mike Weber to discuss a case that closely mirrors patterns we saw in season 6 of the show. The conversation centers on a caregiver who presented a child as chronically and mysteriously ill, resulting in repeated hospitalizations and invasive medical interventions. </p>
<p>Together, Andrea and Mike examine the systemic failures that allowed the abuse to continue despite prior warnings, including gaps in CPS oversight, lack of training, and reluctance to act without a catastrophic trigger. </p>
<p>* * *</p>
<p>Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: <a href="https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster"><u>https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>The Warrior Eli Hoax Part 2 with Taryn Wright</title>
      <description>In part two of Andrea’s conversation with writer and former hoax hunter Taryn Wright, the discussion shifts from the Warrior Eli case to the broader impact of exposing deception online. Together, Andrea and Taryn explore the rise of attention as its own form of currency and the ethical challenges of telling these stories responsibly.

* * *

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2026 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In part two of Andrea’s conversation with writer and former hoax hunter Taryn Wright, the discussion shifts from the Warrior Eli case to the broader impact of exposing deception online. Together, Andrea and Taryn explore the rise of attention as its own form of currency and the ethical challenges of telling these stories responsibly.

* * *

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In part two of Andrea’s conversation with writer and former hoax hunter Taryn Wright, the discussion shifts from the <em>Warrior Eli</em> case to the broader impact of exposing deception online. Together, Andrea and Taryn explore the rise of attention as its own form of currency and the ethical challenges of telling these stories responsibly.</p>
<p>* * *</p>
<p>Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: <a href="https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster"><u>https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"><u> here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>The Warrior Eli Hoax Part 1 with Taryn Wright</title>
      <description>In the early 2010s, a heartbreaking story circulated widely online: a family documenting their young son Eli’s battle with cancer, following the sudden death of his mother. When investigative writer Taryn Wright came across the story, what began as casual curiosity quickly led to a shocking series of revelations about a story thousands of strangers had become deeply invested in.

In this episode, Andrea talks with Taryn about how the Warrior Eli hoax unraveled and the very real impact it had on the people who believed it. The conversation explores why these stories resonate so deeply and what happens when deception is exposed.

* * *

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2026 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In the early 2010s, a heartbreaking story circulated widely online: a family documenting their young son Eli’s battle with cancer, following the sudden death of his mother. When investigative writer Taryn Wright came across the story, what began as casual curiosity quickly led to a shocking series of revelations about a story thousands of strangers had become deeply invested in.

In this episode, Andrea talks with Taryn about how the Warrior Eli hoax unraveled and the very real impact it had on the people who believed it. The conversation explores why these stories resonate so deeply and what happens when deception is exposed.

* * *

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the early 2010s, a heartbreaking story circulated widely online: a family documenting their young son Eli’s battle with cancer, following the sudden death of his mother. When investigative writer Taryn Wright came across the story, what began as casual curiosity quickly led to a shocking series of revelations about a story thousands of strangers had become deeply invested in.</p>
<p>In this episode, Andrea talks with Taryn about how the <em>Warrior Eli</em> hoax unraveled and the very real impact it had on the people who believed it. The conversation explores why these stories resonate so deeply and what happens when deception is exposed.</p>
<p>* * *</p>
<p>Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: <a href="https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster"><u>https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Justina Pelletier Part 2 with Beau Berman (rebroadcast)</title>
      <description>In part 2 of Andrea’s Justina Pelletier coverage, she’s joined by Beau Berman, the reporter that broke this story.

***

On this show we talk a lot about how Munchausen by Proxy cases are covered in the media, and today we’re getting the inside scoop from the reporter who broke one of the most high profile MBP stories. Beau Berman began covering the Justina Pelletier case back in 2013 as a young reporter and watched over the years as the case evolved and got stranger and stranger. He tells Andrea about how the story came across his desk and the complexities of trying to keep the balance on both sides while dealing with HIPAA. He reflects on his time with the Pelletiers and his thoughts on the case more than a decade after covering it. 

***

Links/Resources: 

Listen to Justina Pelletier Part 1: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-02-justina-pelletier-part-1/id1615637188

Listen to Justina Pelletier Part 3: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-04-justina-pelletier-part-3-with-beau-berman/id1615637188

Listen to Justina Pelletier Part 4: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-05-justina-pelletier-part-4/id1615637188

The Battle for Justina Pelletier: https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112

Read about Justina Pelleiter in The Boston Globe: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2020/01/12/pelletier/0I2dQrYlZFJ9tNzscaXdAO/story.html

Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Justina Pelletier case: https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935

Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2026 06:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In part 2 of Andrea’s Justina Pelletier coverage, she’s joined by Beau Berman, the reporter that broke this story.

***

On this show we talk a lot about how Munchausen by Proxy cases are covered in the media, and today we’re getting the inside scoop from the reporter who broke one of the most high profile MBP stories. Beau Berman began covering the Justina Pelletier case back in 2013 as a young reporter and watched over the years as the case evolved and got stranger and stranger. He tells Andrea about how the story came across his desk and the complexities of trying to keep the balance on both sides while dealing with HIPAA. He reflects on his time with the Pelletiers and his thoughts on the case more than a decade after covering it. 

***

Links/Resources: 

Listen to Justina Pelletier Part 1: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-02-justina-pelletier-part-1/id1615637188

Listen to Justina Pelletier Part 3: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-04-justina-pelletier-part-3-with-beau-berman/id1615637188

Listen to Justina Pelletier Part 4: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-05-justina-pelletier-part-4/id1615637188

The Battle for Justina Pelletier: https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112

Read about Justina Pelleiter in The Boston Globe: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2020/01/12/pelletier/0I2dQrYlZFJ9tNzscaXdAO/story.html

Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Justina Pelletier case: https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935

Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In part 2 of Andrea’s Justina Pelletier coverage, she’s joined by Beau Berman, the reporter that broke this story.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>On this show we talk a lot about how Munchausen by Proxy cases are covered in the media, and today we’re getting the inside scoop from the reporter who broke one of the most high profile MBP stories. Beau Berman began covering the Justina Pelletier case back in 2013 as a young reporter and watched over the years as the case evolved and got stranger and stranger. He tells Andrea about how the story came across his desk and the complexities of trying to keep the balance on both sides while dealing with HIPAA. He reflects on his time with the Pelletiers and his thoughts on the case more than a decade after covering it. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Links/Resources: </p>
<p>Listen to Justina Pelletier Part 1: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-02-justina-pelletier-part-1/id1615637188"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-02-justina-pelletier-part-1/id1615637188</u></a></p>
<p>Listen to Justina Pelletier Part 3: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-04-justina-pelletier-part-3-with-beau-berman/id1615637188"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-04-justina-pelletier-part-3-with-beau-berman/id1615637188</u></a></p>
<p>Listen to Justina Pelletier Part 4: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-05-justina-pelletier-part-4/id1615637188"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-05-justina-pelletier-part-4/id1615637188</u></a></p>
<p>The Battle for Justina Pelletier: <a href="https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112"><u>https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112</u></a></p>
<p>Read about Justina Pelleiter in The Boston Globe: <a href="https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2020/01/12/pelletier/0I2dQrYlZFJ9tNzscaXdAO/story.html"><u>https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2020/01/12/pelletier/0I2dQrYlZFJ9tNzscaXdAO/story.html</u></a></p>
<p>Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Justina Pelletier case: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935"><u>https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935</u></a></p>
<p>Preorder Andrea's new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"><u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a></p>
<p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"><u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p>
<p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"><u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"><u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"><u>here</u></a>.</p>
<p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe"><u>Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</u></a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts"><u>Apple Podcasts</u></a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com"><u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"><u>here</u></a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Justina Pelletier Part 1 (rebroadcast)</title>
      <description>As 2025 comes to a close and we look forward to season 7, we’re airing the first part of Andrea’s coverage on the Justina Pelletier case—the case that opened the Pandora’s Box of medical kidnapping coverage in the media.

***

Case Files is back with the first episode of a multi-part series on the Justina Pelletier case. Andrea and Dr. Bex covered this case in the subscriber feed, but, due to popular demand, decided to bring it to the main podcast.

Justina Pelletier was a 14-year-old girl whose hospitalization at Boston Children's Hospital sparked a significant legal and media frenzy. Andrea and Dr. Bex’s discussion covers the medical background of Justina's condition, including mitochondrial disease and somatoform disorder, the treatment plans proposed by the hospital, and the escalating conflict between her family and medical professionals. 

***

Links/Resources: 

Listen to Justina Pelletier Part 2: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-03-justina-pelletier-part-2-with-beau-berman/id1615637188

Listen to Justina Pelletier Part 3: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-04-justina-pelletier-part-3-with-beau-berman/id1615637188

Listen to Justina Pelletier Part 4: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-05-justina-pelletier-part-4/id1615637188

The Battle for Justina Pelletier: https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112

Read about Justina Pelleiter in The Boston Globe: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2020/01/12/pelletier/0I2dQrYlZFJ9tNzscaXdAO/story.html

Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Justina Pelletier case: https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935

Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2026 06:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>As 2025 comes to a close and we look forward to season 7, we’re airing the first part of Andrea’s coverage on the Justina Pelletier case—the case that opened the Pandora’s Box of medical kidnapping coverage in the media.

***

Case Files is back with the first episode of a multi-part series on the Justina Pelletier case. Andrea and Dr. Bex covered this case in the subscriber feed, but, due to popular demand, decided to bring it to the main podcast.

Justina Pelletier was a 14-year-old girl whose hospitalization at Boston Children's Hospital sparked a significant legal and media frenzy. Andrea and Dr. Bex’s discussion covers the medical background of Justina's condition, including mitochondrial disease and somatoform disorder, the treatment plans proposed by the hospital, and the escalating conflict between her family and medical professionals. 

***

Links/Resources: 

Listen to Justina Pelletier Part 2: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-03-justina-pelletier-part-2-with-beau-berman/id1615637188

Listen to Justina Pelletier Part 3: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-04-justina-pelletier-part-3-with-beau-berman/id1615637188

Listen to Justina Pelletier Part 4: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-05-justina-pelletier-part-4/id1615637188

The Battle for Justina Pelletier: https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112

Read about Justina Pelleiter in The Boston Globe: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2020/01/12/pelletier/0I2dQrYlZFJ9tNzscaXdAO/story.html

Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Justina Pelletier case: https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935

Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>As 2025 comes to a close and we look forward to season 7, we’re airing the first part of Andrea’s coverage on the Justina Pelletier case—the case that opened the Pandora’s Box of medical kidnapping coverage in the media.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Case Files is back with the first episode of a multi-part series on the Justina Pelletier case. Andrea and Dr. Bex covered this case in the subscriber feed, but, due to popular demand, decided to bring it to the main podcast.</p>
<p>Justina Pelletier was a 14-year-old girl whose hospitalization at Boston Children's Hospital sparked a significant legal and media frenzy. Andrea and Dr. Bex’s discussion covers the medical background of Justina's condition, including mitochondrial disease and somatoform disorder, the treatment plans proposed by the hospital, and the escalating conflict between her family and medical professionals. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Links/Resources: </p>
<p>Listen to Justina Pelletier Part 2: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-03-justina-pelletier-part-2-with-beau-berman/id1615637188"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-03-justina-pelletier-part-2-with-beau-berman/id1615637188</u></a></p>
<p>Listen to Justina Pelletier Part 3: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-04-justina-pelletier-part-3-with-beau-berman/id1615637188"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-04-justina-pelletier-part-3-with-beau-berman/id1615637188</u></a></p>
<p>Listen to Justina Pelletier Part 4: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-05-justina-pelletier-part-4/id1615637188"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-05-justina-pelletier-part-4/id1615637188</u></a></p>
<p>The Battle for Justina Pelletier: <a href="https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112"><u>https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112</u></a></p>
<p>Read about Justina Pelleiter in The Boston Globe: <a href="https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2020/01/12/pelletier/0I2dQrYlZFJ9tNzscaXdAO/story.html"><u>https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2020/01/12/pelletier/0I2dQrYlZFJ9tNzscaXdAO/story.html</u></a></p>
<p>Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Justina Pelletier case: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935"><u>https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935</u></a></p>
<p>Preorder Andrea's new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"><u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a></p>
<p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"><u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p>
<p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"><u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"><u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"><u>here</u></a>.</p>
<p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe"><u>Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</u></a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts"><u>Apple Podcasts</u></a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com"><u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"><u>here</u></a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Jesika Jones Part 2 with Derek Jones (rebroadcast)</title>
      <description>In the second episode of Andrea’s coverage of the Jesika Jones case, she’s joined by Derek Jones, Jesika’s then-husband. Derek bravely tells the story of how he and Jesika met, their home life, and the decline in their daughter's health. Talking to Derek gives listeners insight into the manipulative nature of perpetrators, not only with their victims, but also with everyone around them, and the mental toll of coming to terms with such a monumental breach of trust.

***

Links/Resources: 

Listen to Jesika Jones Part 1: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-06-jesika-jones-part-1-with-detective-mike-weber/id1615637188

Listen to Jesika Jones Part 3: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-08-jesika-jones-part-3-with-derek-jones/id1615637188

Listen to Jesika Jones Part 4: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-09-jesika-jones-part-4-with-detective-mike-weber/id1615637188

Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2025 06:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In the second episode of Andrea’s coverage of the Jesika Jones case, she’s joined by Derek Jones, Jesika’s then-husband. Derek bravely tells the story of how he and Jesika met, their home life, and the decline in their daughter's health. Talking to Derek gives listeners insight into the manipulative nature of perpetrators, not only with their victims, but also with everyone around them, and the mental toll of coming to terms with such a monumental breach of trust.

***

Links/Resources: 

Listen to Jesika Jones Part 1: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-06-jesika-jones-part-1-with-detective-mike-weber/id1615637188

Listen to Jesika Jones Part 3: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-08-jesika-jones-part-3-with-derek-jones/id1615637188

Listen to Jesika Jones Part 4: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-09-jesika-jones-part-4-with-detective-mike-weber/id1615637188

Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In the second episode of Andrea’s coverage of the Jesika Jones case, she’s joined by Derek Jones, Jesika’s then-husband. Derek bravely tells the story of how he and Jesika met, their home life, and the decline in their daughter's health. Talking to Derek gives listeners insight into the manipulative nature of perpetrators, not only with their victims, but also with everyone around them, and the mental toll of coming to terms with such a monumental breach of trust.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Links/Resources: </p>
<p>Listen to Jesika Jones Part 1: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-06-jesika-jones-part-1-with-detective-mike-weber/id1615637188"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-06-jesika-jones-part-1-with-detective-mike-weber/id1615637188</u></a></p>
<p>Listen to Jesika Jones Part 3: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-08-jesika-jones-part-3-with-derek-jones/id1615637188?i=1000680182574"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-08-jesika-jones-part-3-with-derek-jones/id1615637188</u></a></p>
<p>Listen to Jesika Jones Part 4: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-09-jesika-jones-part-4-with-detective-mike-weber/id1615637188"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-09-jesika-jones-part-4-with-detective-mike-weber/id1615637188</u></a></p>
<p>Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"><u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a></p>
<p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"><u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p>
<p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"><u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"><u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"><u>here</u></a>.</p>
<p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe"><u>Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</u></a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts"><u>Apple Podcasts</u></a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com"><u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"><u>here</u></a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Jesika Jones Part 1 with Detective Mike Weber (rebroadcast)</title>
      <description>Today we’re re-airing part 1 of the Jesika Jones case in Texas. Look out for part 2 with the father, Derek Jones, in the feed tomorrow! 

***

This week on case files, Andrea is joined by Detective Mike Weber, a crimes against children investigator and long-time friend/contributor to the show, to discuss the Jesika Jones case. Detective Mike is called onto this case in mid-2022 after Jesika brings her 4 year old daughter into Cook Children’s Hospital multiple times for an alleged seizure disorder. As the case evolves, Mike learns just how compulsive an offender who is allowed to walk can truly be. 

***

Links/Resources: 

Listen to Jesika Jones Part 2: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-07-jesika-jones-part-2-with-derek-jones/id1615637188

Listen to Jesika Jones Part 3: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-08-jesika-jones-part-3-with-derek-jones/id1615637188

Listen to Jesika Jones Part 4: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-09-jesika-jones-part-4-with-detective-mike-weber/id1615637188

Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2025 06:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Today we’re re-airing part 1 of the Jesika Jones case in Texas. Look out for part 2 with the father, Derek Jones, in the feed tomorrow! 

***

This week on case files, Andrea is joined by Detective Mike Weber, a crimes against children investigator and long-time friend/contributor to the show, to discuss the Jesika Jones case. Detective Mike is called onto this case in mid-2022 after Jesika brings her 4 year old daughter into Cook Children’s Hospital multiple times for an alleged seizure disorder. As the case evolves, Mike learns just how compulsive an offender who is allowed to walk can truly be. 

***

Links/Resources: 

Listen to Jesika Jones Part 2: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-07-jesika-jones-part-2-with-derek-jones/id1615637188

Listen to Jesika Jones Part 3: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-08-jesika-jones-part-3-with-derek-jones/id1615637188

Listen to Jesika Jones Part 4: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-09-jesika-jones-part-4-with-detective-mike-weber/id1615637188

Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Today we’re re-airing part 1 of the Jesika Jones case in Texas. Look out for part 2 with the father, Derek Jones, in the feed tomorrow! </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>This week on case files, Andrea is joined by Detective Mike Weber, a crimes against children investigator and long-time friend/contributor to the show, to discuss the Jesika Jones case. Detective Mike is called onto this case in mid-2022 after Jesika brings her 4 year old daughter into Cook Children’s Hospital multiple times for an alleged seizure disorder. As the case evolves, Mike learns just how compulsive an offender who is allowed to walk can truly be. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Links/Resources: </p>
<p>Listen to Jesika Jones Part 2: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-07-jesika-jones-part-2-with-derek-jones/id1615637188"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-07-jesika-jones-part-2-with-derek-jones/id1615637188</u></a></p>
<p>Listen to Jesika Jones Part 3: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-08-jesika-jones-part-3-with-derek-jones/id1615637188?i=1000680182574"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-08-jesika-jones-part-3-with-derek-jones/id1615637188</u></a></p>
<p>Listen to Jesika Jones Part 4: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-09-jesika-jones-part-4-with-detective-mike-weber/id1615637188"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/case-files-09-jesika-jones-part-4-with-detective-mike-weber/id1615637188</u></a></p>
<p>Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"><u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a></p>
<p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"><u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p>
<p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"><u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"><u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"><u>here</u></a>.</p>
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      <title>Catching Up with Mishelle and Aunt Sabrina</title>
      <description>In this follow-up to Season 6, Andrea reconnects with Mishelle and her aunt Sabrina to talk about life after sharing Collin’s story. They reflect on what it’s been like to have this information  out in the world, the reactions from their community, and the personal toll of public disclosure. Mishelle shares major life updates, while Sabrina speaks about the mix of relief and vulnerability that comes with finally being heard.

* * *

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      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2025 16:09:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this follow-up to Season 6, Andrea reconnects with Mishelle and her aunt Sabrina to talk about life after sharing Collin’s story. They reflect on what it’s been like to have this information  out in the world, the reactions from their community, and the personal toll of public disclosure. Mishelle shares major life updates, while Sabrina speaks about the mix of relief and vulnerability that comes with finally being heard.

* * *

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

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The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this follow-up to Season 6, Andrea reconnects with Mishelle and her aunt Sabrina to talk about life after sharing Collin’s story. They reflect on what it’s been like to have this information  out in the world, the reactions from their community, and the personal toll of public disclosure. Mishelle shares major life updates, while Sabrina speaks about the mix of relief and vulnerability that comes with finally being heard.</p>
<p>* * *</p>
<p>Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: <a href="https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster"><u>https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>What “The Preventionist” Left Out with Dr. Randy Alexander</title>
      <description>In this episode, we close out our coverage of Serial’s The Preventionist with Dr. Randy Alexander, one of the most experienced child abuse pediatricians in the country and the former supervisor of both Dr. Deborah Jensen and Dr. Sally Smith. Randy explains how the media’s portrayal of CAPs as all-powerful fundamentally misunderstands how these cases work and ignores the layers of oversight built into the system. 

We also revisit the Amanda Saranofksy case, which The Preventionist casts as uncertain despite multiple conflicting stories and medical findings that simply don’t match the explanations given. These selective narratives don’t bring accountability. They undermine child safety by elevating fringe theories over decades of established research. This is our final episode on The Preventionist, but we’ll continue examining its consequences as we move into Season Seven.

* * *

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

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      <pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2025 15:40:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode, we close out our coverage of Serial’s The Preventionist with Dr. Randy Alexander, one of the most experienced child abuse pediatricians in the country and the former supervisor of both Dr. Deborah Jensen and Dr. Sally Smith. Randy explains how the media’s portrayal of CAPs as all-powerful fundamentally misunderstands how these cases work and ignores the layers of oversight built into the system. 

We also revisit the Amanda Saranofksy case, which The Preventionist casts as uncertain despite multiple conflicting stories and medical findings that simply don’t match the explanations given. These selective narratives don’t bring accountability. They undermine child safety by elevating fringe theories over decades of established research. This is our final episode on The Preventionist, but we’ll continue examining its consequences as we move into Season Seven.

* * *

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

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For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we close out our coverage of <em>Serial’s</em> <em>The Preventionist</em> with Dr. Randy Alexander, one of the most experienced child abuse pediatricians in the country and the former supervisor of both Dr. Deborah Jensen and Dr. Sally Smith. Randy explains how the media’s portrayal of CAPs as all-powerful fundamentally misunderstands how these cases work and ignores the layers of oversight built into the system. </p>
<p>We also revisit the Amanda Saranofksy case, which <em>The Preventionist</em> casts as uncertain despite multiple conflicting stories and medical findings that simply don’t match the explanations given. These selective narratives don’t bring accountability. They undermine child safety by elevating fringe theories over decades of established research. This is our final episode on <em>The Preventionist</em>, but we’ll continue examining its consequences as we move into Season Seven.</p>
<p>* * *</p>
<p>Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: <a href="https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster"><u>https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>How Do We Prevent Child Abuse? With Kathleen Strader</title>
      <description>This week we’re re-releasing Andrea’s conversation with Kathleen Strader from Prevent Child Abuse America. While Nobody Should Believe Me is, at its core, raising awareness about Munchausen by Proxy abuse, we’ve been pulled into the larger question of “how do we make sure children are safe in their homes?”. We’ll continue exploring that next week during Andrea’s interview with Dr. Randy Alexander and throughout season 7 (coming soon!).

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This week Andrea is joined by Kathleen Strader, the National Director for Healthy Families America, the signature home visiting program of Prevent Child Abuse America. Following the Take Care of Maya film and media coverage of so-called "medical kidnapping" and misleading coverage of child abuse, we move the conversation to solutions: what can we do to prevent child abuse? We delve into Kathleen's background dealing with child abuse cases and her work supporting families through home visiting programs. Their conversation touches on the complexities of child abuse, systemic issues, and the importance of supportive measures and interventions that meet families where they are. As we wrap up our coverage of the landmark Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Children's case, we issue a hopeful message of how we can alleviate one of society's most challenging problems.

* * *

Check out ⁠Prevent Child Abuse America⁠.    

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

Tickets for Nobody Should Believe Me LIVE: https://www.andreadunlop.net/nobody-should-believe-me-live

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2025 06:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This week we’re re-releasing Andrea’s conversation with Kathleen Strader from Prevent Child Abuse America. While Nobody Should Believe Me is, at its core, raising awareness about Munchausen by Proxy abuse, we’ve been pulled into the larger question of “how do we make sure children are safe in their homes?”. We’ll continue exploring that next week during Andrea’s interview with Dr. Randy Alexander and throughout season 7 (coming soon!).

***

This week Andrea is joined by Kathleen Strader, the National Director for Healthy Families America, the signature home visiting program of Prevent Child Abuse America. Following the Take Care of Maya film and media coverage of so-called "medical kidnapping" and misleading coverage of child abuse, we move the conversation to solutions: what can we do to prevent child abuse? We delve into Kathleen's background dealing with child abuse cases and her work supporting families through home visiting programs. Their conversation touches on the complexities of child abuse, systemic issues, and the importance of supportive measures and interventions that meet families where they are. As we wrap up our coverage of the landmark Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Children's case, we issue a hopeful message of how we can alleviate one of society's most challenging problems.

* * *

Check out ⁠Prevent Child Abuse America⁠.    

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

Tickets for Nobody Should Believe Me LIVE: https://www.andreadunlop.net/nobody-should-believe-me-live

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we’re re-releasing Andrea’s conversation with Kathleen Strader from Prevent Child Abuse America. While Nobody Should Believe Me is, at its core, raising awareness about Munchausen by Proxy abuse, we’ve been pulled into the larger question of “how do we make sure children are safe in their homes?”. We’ll continue exploring that next week during Andrea’s interview with Dr. Randy Alexander and throughout season 7 (coming soon!).</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>This week Andrea is joined by Kathleen Strader, the National Director for Healthy Families America, the signature home visiting program of Prevent Child Abuse America. Following the Take Care of Maya film and media coverage of so-called "medical kidnapping" and misleading coverage of child abuse, we move the conversation to solutions: what can we do to prevent child abuse? We delve into Kathleen's background dealing with child abuse cases and her work supporting families through home visiting programs. Their conversation touches on the complexities of child abuse, systemic issues, and the importance of supportive measures and interventions that meet families where they are. As we wrap up our coverage of the landmark Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Children's case, we issue a hopeful message of how we can alleviate one of society's most challenging problems.</p>
<p>* * *</p>
<p>Check out<a href="https://preventchildabuse.org/"> <u>⁠Prevent Child Abuse America⁠</u></a>.    </p>
<p>Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: <a href="https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster"><u>https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster</u></a></p>
<p>Tickets for Nobody Should Believe Me LIVE: <a href="https://www.andreadunlop.net/nobody-should-believe-me-live"><u>https://www.andreadunlop.net/nobody-should-believe-me-live</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3729</itunes:duration>
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      <title>The Human Cost of “The Preventionist” with Dr. Sally Smith</title>
      <description>In this episode, Dr. Sally Smith is back on the mic to share her reaction to the recent appellate ruling that overturned the massive judgment against Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital in the Maya Kowalski case. She talks about what the decision means for mandatory reporters, why she sees it as vindication of her work, and what it’s been like to be cast as a media villain simply for following the evidence.

Andrea and Dr. Smith also discuss The Preventionist and reporter Dyan Neary’s portrayal of Dr. Debra Jenssen, and why these narratives about “overzealous” child abuse pediatricians can so easily miss the reality of how these cases are actually evaluated. Dr. Smith offers context on the medical processes involved and what’s at stake when public conversations lose sight of the vulnerable children at the center of these stories.

***

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

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The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2025 06:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/a79a45de-cb13-11f0-91ca-fbbce263cbde/image/13c5d7bd281700145aed69a7725fc034.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Dr. Sally Smith is back on the mic to share her reaction to the recent appellate ruling that overturned the massive judgment against Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital in the Maya Kowalski case. She talks about what the decision means for mandatory reporters, why she sees it as vindication of her work, and what it’s been like to be cast as a media villain simply for following the evidence.

Andrea and Dr. Smith also discuss The Preventionist and reporter Dyan Neary’s portrayal of Dr. Debra Jenssen, and why these narratives about “overzealous” child abuse pediatricians can so easily miss the reality of how these cases are actually evaluated. Dr. Smith offers context on the medical processes involved and what’s at stake when public conversations lose sight of the vulnerable children at the center of these stories.

***

Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster

Tickets for Nobody Should Believe Me LIVE: https://www.andreadunlop.net/nobody-should-believe-me-live

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Dr. Sally Smith is back on the mic to share her reaction to the recent appellate ruling that overturned the massive judgment against Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital in the Maya Kowalski case. She talks about what the decision means for mandatory reporters, why she sees it as vindication of her work, and what it’s been like to be cast as a media villain simply for following the evidence.</p>
<p>Andrea and Dr. Smith also discuss <em>The Preventionist</em> and reporter Dyan Neary’s portrayal of Dr. Debra Jenssen, and why these narratives about “overzealous” child abuse pediatricians can so easily miss the reality of how these cases are actually evaluated. Dr. Smith offers context on the medical processes involved and what’s at stake when public conversations lose sight of the vulnerable children at the center of these stories.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Try out Andrea’s Podcaster Coaching App: <a href="https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster"><u>https://studio.com/apps/andrea/podcaster</u></a></p>
<p>Tickets for Nobody Should Believe Me LIVE: <a href="https://www.andreadunlop.net/nobody-should-believe-me-live"><u>https://www.andreadunlop.net/nobody-should-believe-me-live</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
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      <title>Introducing: Dakota Spotlight Season 12</title>
      <description>Meanwhile in Mankato: Lies, Silence &amp; Murder in Minnesota

In 1965, a teenager killed a gas-station clerk near Mankato and was sentenced to forty years. He served five.

Decades later, Dakota Spotlight retraces his path — from prison to parole, from murder to manipulation — and discovers new revelations that still shock those who lived through it.

***

Listen to Dakota Spotlight: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dakota-spotlight-true-crime-cold-case-investigations/id1451783176
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      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2025 17:37:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Meanwhile in Mankato: Lies, Silence &amp; Murder in Minnesota

In 1965, a teenager killed a gas-station clerk near Mankato and was sentenced to forty years. He served five.

Decades later, Dakota Spotlight retraces his path — from prison to parole, from murder to manipulation — and discovers new revelations that still shock those who lived through it.

***

Listen to Dakota Spotlight: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dakota-spotlight-true-crime-cold-case-investigations/id1451783176
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile in Mankato: Lies, Silence &amp; Murder in Minnesota</p>
<p>In 1965, a teenager killed a gas-station clerk near Mankato and was sentenced to forty years. He served five.</p>
<p>Decades later, Dakota Spotlight retraces his path — from prison to parole, from murder to manipulation — and discovers new revelations that still shock those who lived through it.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Listen to Dakota Spotlight: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dakota-spotlight-true-crime-cold-case-investigations/id1451783176</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Dr. Jessica Pryce on the Harms of the Child Welfare System</title>
      <description>In light of the overturned ruling of Kowalski v Johns Hopkins and Serial’s The Preventionist, we’re reairing an episode from our Kowalski season in which Andrea dives into the complexities around reporting child abuse suspicions.

***

With the jury's stunning $242 million verdict in favor of the Kowalski family, host Andrea Dunlop looks at why this case has struck such a nerve on both sides of the political spectrum. She examines why some mothers accused of medical child abuse are viewed as monsters and others as martyrs.  

Andrea looks at the charges against social worker Cathy Bedy the woman who became the face of the child welfare bureaucracy during the Maya Kowalski case and examines her testimony.  

We also seek out answers about the troubled state of child welfare in America by talking to Dr. Jessica Pryce, author of the forthcoming book Broken: Transforming Child Protective Services—Notes of a Former Caseworker. 

Dr. Pryce shares heart-wrenching stories of mothers whose lives have been turned upside down by investigations and sets out a compelling and urgent case for an overhaul of CPS. With her inside view of the system, she also gives insight on how doctors and other mandated reporters can do the best for the families they want to help even within the current, deeply flawed system.  

This episode grapples with the complexity around reporting child abuse suspicions and the potentially chilling ripple effects of the explosive verdict in Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens. It examines the lack of support for struggling parents in America, while leaving the listener with urgent questions about justice and equity. 

***

Learn more about Dr. Pryce’s work on her website: https://jessicaprycephd.com/  

Tickets for Nobody Should Believe Me LIVE: https://www.andreadunlop.net/nobody-should-believe-me-live

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      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2025 06:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In light of the overturned ruling of Kowalski v Johns Hopkins and Serial’s The Preventionist, we’re reairing an episode from our Kowalski season in which Andrea dives into the complexities around reporting child abuse suspicions.

***

With the jury's stunning $242 million verdict in favor of the Kowalski family, host Andrea Dunlop looks at why this case has struck such a nerve on both sides of the political spectrum. She examines why some mothers accused of medical child abuse are viewed as monsters and others as martyrs.  

Andrea looks at the charges against social worker Cathy Bedy the woman who became the face of the child welfare bureaucracy during the Maya Kowalski case and examines her testimony.  

We also seek out answers about the troubled state of child welfare in America by talking to Dr. Jessica Pryce, author of the forthcoming book Broken: Transforming Child Protective Services—Notes of a Former Caseworker. 

Dr. Pryce shares heart-wrenching stories of mothers whose lives have been turned upside down by investigations and sets out a compelling and urgent case for an overhaul of CPS. With her inside view of the system, she also gives insight on how doctors and other mandated reporters can do the best for the families they want to help even within the current, deeply flawed system.  

This episode grapples with the complexity around reporting child abuse suspicions and the potentially chilling ripple effects of the explosive verdict in Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens. It examines the lack of support for struggling parents in America, while leaving the listener with urgent questions about justice and equity. 

***

Learn more about Dr. Pryce’s work on her website: https://jessicaprycephd.com/  

Tickets for Nobody Should Believe Me LIVE: https://www.andreadunlop.net/nobody-should-believe-me-live

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

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For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In light of the overturned ruling of Kowalski v Johns Hopkins and Serial’s <em>The Preventionist, </em>we’re reairing an episode from our Kowalski season in which Andrea dives into the complexities around reporting child abuse suspicions.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>With the jury's stunning $242 million verdict in favor of the Kowalski family, host Andrea Dunlop looks at why this case has struck such a nerve on both sides of the political spectrum. She examines why some mothers accused of medical child abuse are viewed as monsters and others as martyrs.  </p>
<p>Andrea looks at the charges against social worker Cathy Bedy the woman who became the face of the child welfare bureaucracy during the Maya Kowalski case and examines her testimony.  </p>
<p>We also seek out answers about the troubled state of child welfare in America by talking to Dr. Jessica Pryce, author of the forthcoming book <em>Broken: Transforming Child Protective Services—Notes of a Former Caseworker.</em> </p>
<p>Dr. Pryce shares heart-wrenching stories of mothers whose lives have been turned upside down by investigations and sets out a compelling and urgent case for an overhaul of CPS. With her inside view of the system, she also gives insight on how doctors and other mandated reporters can do the best for the families they want to help even within the current, deeply flawed system.  </p>
<p>This episode grapples with the complexity around reporting child abuse suspicions and the potentially chilling ripple effects of the explosive verdict in Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens. It examines the lack of support for struggling parents in America, while leaving the listener with urgent questions about justice and equity. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Learn more about Dr. Pryce’s work on her website: <a href="https://jessicaprycephd.com/"><u>https://jessicaprycephd.com/</u></a>  </p>
<p>Tickets for Nobody Should Believe Me LIVE: <a href="https://www.andreadunlop.net/nobody-should-believe-me-live"><u>https://www.andreadunlop.net/nobody-should-believe-me-live</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
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<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
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<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>“The Preventionist” Erases Munchausen by Proxy with Dr. Jim Hamilton</title>
      <description>In the second part of Andrea’s rebuttal to The Preventionist, Serial Productions’ podcast on child abuse pediatrician Dr. Debra Jenssen, she speaks with Dr. Jim Hamilton, a leading expert on Munchausen by proxy. They break down how prevalence statistics are misused, what The Preventionist gets wrong, and why leaving out key details—like the Steltz’ teenage son coming forward and emancipating himself—is so damaging. Ultimately, the episode asks what it means when the media gives a platform to alleged abusers while erasing survivors.

***

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      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2025 14:53:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In the second part of Andrea’s rebuttal to The Preventionist, Serial Productions’ podcast on child abuse pediatrician Dr. Debra Jenssen, she speaks with Dr. Jim Hamilton, a leading expert on Munchausen by proxy. They break down how prevalence statistics are misused, what The Preventionist gets wrong, and why leaving out key details—like the Steltz’ teenage son coming forward and emancipating himself—is so damaging. Ultimately, the episode asks what it means when the media gives a platform to alleged abusers while erasing survivors.

***

Tickets for Nobody Should Believe Me LIVE: https://www.andreadunlop.net/nobody-should-believe-me-live

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

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The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the second part of Andrea’s rebuttal to <em>The Preventionist</em>, Serial Productions’ podcast on child abuse pediatrician Dr. Debra Jenssen, she speaks with Dr. Jim Hamilton, a leading expert on Munchausen by proxy. They break down how prevalence statistics are misused, what <em>The Preventionist</em> gets wrong, and why leaving out key details—like the Steltz’ teenage son coming forward and emancipating himself—is so damaging. Ultimately, the episode asks what it means when the media gives a platform to alleged abusers while erasing survivors.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Tickets for Nobody Should Believe Me LIVE: <a href="https://www.andreadunlop.net/nobody-should-believe-me-live"><u>https://www.andreadunlop.net/nobody-should-believe-me-live</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Kowalski v Johns Hopkins overturned with Ethen Shapiro</title>
      <description>In this episode, Andrea sits down with Ethen Shapiro, trial counsel for Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital, to unpack the landmark appellate decision overturning the $200 million verdict in the Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins case. Ethen explains how the ruling reinforces the immunity given to mandatory reporters acting in good faith when reporting suspected abuse. Together, they explore how the decision challenges the “medical kidnapping” narrative and clarifies that the hospital’s actions were guided by law and necessity, not malice. The discussion also highlights what this ruling could mean for similar cases nationwide, where lawsuits against hospitals and social workers are on the rise. 

***

Tickets for NSBM Live - Seattle 3.18.26 https://tickets.thetripledoor.net/eventperformances.asp?evt=2181

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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2025 16:01:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Andrea sits down with Ethen Shapiro, trial counsel for Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital, to unpack the landmark appellate decision overturning the $200 million verdict in the Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins case. Ethen explains how the ruling reinforces the immunity given to mandatory reporters acting in good faith when reporting suspected abuse. Together, they explore how the decision challenges the “medical kidnapping” narrative and clarifies that the hospital’s actions were guided by law and necessity, not malice. The discussion also highlights what this ruling could mean for similar cases nationwide, where lawsuits against hospitals and social workers are on the rise. 

***

Tickets for NSBM Live - Seattle 3.18.26 https://tickets.thetripledoor.net/eventperformances.asp?evt=2181

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

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Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Andrea sits down with Ethen Shapiro, trial counsel for Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital, to unpack the landmark appellate decision overturning the $200 million verdict in the Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins case. Ethen explains how the ruling reinforces the immunity given to mandatory reporters acting in good faith when reporting suspected abuse. Together, they explore how the decision challenges the “medical kidnapping” narrative and clarifies that the hospital’s actions were guided by law and necessity, not malice. The discussion also highlights what this ruling could mean for similar cases nationwide, where lawsuits against hospitals and social workers are on the rise. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Tickets for NSBM Live - Seattle 3.18.26 <a href="https://tickets.thetripledoor.net/eventperformances.asp?evt=2181"><u>https://tickets.thetripledoor.net/eventperformances.asp?evt=2181</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Case Files 25: Olivia Gant Part 2</title>
      <description>In this episode, Andrea continues delving into the Olivia Gant case with Detective Melissa Kalish, who uncovered the vast fraud and abuse behind Kelly Turner’s lies. Kelly continued to exploit compassion: fabricating diagnoses, staging her daughter’s suffering, and committing large-scale Medicaid fraud.

Within days of Olivia’s death, she entered new relationships, inventing pregnancies, fabricating ex-wives, and posing as a nurse. Andrea closes the episode by reminding listeners that Olivia’s story is a warning about the systems and people who looked away when she most needed protection.

Get in touch with Serial and the NTY: serialshows@nytimes.com

Justice for Collin: ⁠https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit⁠

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      <pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2025 00:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Andrea continues delving into the Olivia Gant case with Detective Melissa Kalish, who uncovered the vast fraud and abuse behind Kelly Turner’s lies. Kelly continued to exploit compassion: fabricating diagnoses, staging her daughter’s suffering, and committing large-scale Medicaid fraud.

Within days of Olivia’s death, she entered new relationships, inventing pregnancies, fabricating ex-wives, and posing as a nurse. Andrea closes the episode by reminding listeners that Olivia’s story is a warning about the systems and people who looked away when she most needed protection.

Get in touch with Serial and the NTY: serialshows@nytimes.com

Justice for Collin: ⁠https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit⁠

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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Andrea continues delving into the Olivia Gant case with Detective Melissa Kalish, who uncovered the vast fraud and abuse behind Kelly Turner’s lies. Kelly continued to exploit compassion: fabricating diagnoses, staging her daughter’s suffering, and committing large-scale Medicaid fraud.</p>
<p>Within days of Olivia’s death, she entered new relationships, inventing pregnancies, fabricating ex-wives, and posing as a nurse. Andrea closes the episode by reminding listeners that Olivia’s story is a warning about the systems and people who looked away when she most needed protection.</p>
<p>Get in touch with Serial and the NTY: serialshows@nytimes.com</p>
<p>Justice for Collin: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit?usp=sharing">⁠<u>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit</u>⁠</a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">⁠ <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u>⁠</a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">⁠ <u>here</u>⁠</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">⁠ <u>YouTube</u>⁠</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">⁠ <u>@andreadunlop</u>⁠</a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">⁠ <u>here</u>⁠</a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">⁠ <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u>⁠</a></p>
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      <title>Abuse Survivors and Victims Deserve Better than 'The Preventionist'</title>
      <description>In response to Serial Productions’s series The Preventionist, we’re re-airing our episode “What’s Happening in Lehigh?”, where Andrea and Dr. Marc Feldman dive into the claims of “overdiagnosis” of Munchausen by Proxy in Lehigh, PA. This episode includes an intro covering some key details missing from Serial's reporting.

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This week Andrea is joined by Dr. Marc Feldman as she dives into the complexities and controversies surrounding medical child abuse and the developing story in Lehigh, PA about "overdiagnosis". They delve into the media’s role in shaping perceptions and the potential for a moral panic about doctors "falsely accusing" parents of child abuse. Andrea and Dr. Feldman address the challenges in protecting children, critiques of the healthcare and legal systems, and the broader social and political movement emerging from these cases.

***

Tickets for NSBM Live - Seattle 3.18.26 https://tickets.thetripledoor.net/eventperformances.asp?evt=2181

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      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2025 23:48:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In response to Serial Productions’s series The Preventionist, we’re re-airing our episode “What’s Happening in Lehigh?”, where Andrea and Dr. Marc Feldman dive into the claims of “overdiagnosis” of Munchausen by Proxy in Lehigh, PA. This episode includes an intro covering some key details missing from Serial's reporting.

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This week Andrea is joined by Dr. Marc Feldman as she dives into the complexities and controversies surrounding medical child abuse and the developing story in Lehigh, PA about "overdiagnosis". They delve into the media’s role in shaping perceptions and the potential for a moral panic about doctors "falsely accusing" parents of child abuse. Andrea and Dr. Feldman address the challenges in protecting children, critiques of the healthcare and legal systems, and the broader social and political movement emerging from these cases.

***

Tickets for NSBM Live - Seattle 3.18.26 https://tickets.thetripledoor.net/eventperformances.asp?evt=2181

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

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The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In response to Serial Productions’s series <em>The Preventionist, </em>we’re re-airing our episode “What’s Happening in Lehigh?”, where Andrea and Dr. Marc Feldman dive into the claims of “overdiagnosis” of Munchausen by Proxy in Lehigh, PA. This episode includes an intro covering some key details missing from Serial's reporting.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>This week Andrea is joined by Dr. Marc Feldman as she dives into the complexities and controversies surrounding medical child abuse and the developing story in Lehigh, PA about "overdiagnosis". They delve into the media’s role in shaping perceptions and the potential for a moral panic about doctors "falsely accusing" parents of child abuse. Andrea and Dr. Feldman address the challenges in protecting children, critiques of the healthcare and legal systems, and the broader social and political movement emerging from these cases.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Tickets for NSBM Live - Seattle 3.18.26 <a href="https://tickets.thetripledoor.net/eventperformances.asp?evt=2181"><u>https://tickets.thetripledoor.net/eventperformances.asp?evt=2181</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Case Files 25: Olivia Gant Part 1</title>
      <description>The disturbing parallels between Collin McDaniel and Olivia Gant's cases led Andrea to speak with Melissa Kalish, the lead detective in the investigation of Kelly Turner, for season 6. Now we’re diving deeper into Olivia’s story in a two part series where Detective Kalish walks listeners through her investigation into this case of medical child abuse.

***

Justice for Collin: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

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      <pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2025 14:04:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>The disturbing parallels between Collin McDaniel and Olivia Gant's cases led Andrea to speak with Melissa Kalish, the lead detective in the investigation of Kelly Turner, for season 6. Now we’re diving deeper into Olivia’s story in a two part series where Detective Kalish walks listeners through her investigation into this case of medical child abuse.

***

Justice for Collin: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

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For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The disturbing parallels between Collin McDaniel and Olivia Gant's cases led Andrea to speak with Melissa Kalish, the lead detective in the investigation of Kelly Turner, for season 6. Now we’re diving deeper into Olivia’s story in a two part series where Detective Kalish walks listeners through her investigation into this case of medical child abuse.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Justice for Collin: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit?usp=sharing"><u>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Introducing: Affirmative Murder</title>
      <description>This week Fran and Alvin discuss food, Pakistan, and American history.

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Listen to Affirmative Murder: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/340-em-eye-ess-ess-eye-pee-pee-eye/id1296864488
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>This week Fran and Alvin discuss food, Pakistan, and American history.

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Listen to Affirmative Murder: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/340-em-eye-ess-ess-eye-pee-pee-eye/id1296864488
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week Fran and Alvin discuss food, Pakistan, and American history.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Listen to Affirmative Murder: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/340-em-eye-ess-ess-eye-pee-pee-eye/id1296864488</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>5617</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Answering Your Season 6 Questions</title>
      <description>In this episode, Andrea and the Nobody Should Believe Me team reflect on the emotional impact of making season 6 and the ethical considerations of reporting on Collin’s story. They also address listener feedback, explore the roles of perpetrators and medical professionals, and highlight the importance of accountability in philanthropy and child protection systems. Their conversation emphasizes the need for community engagement and the complexities of navigating these sensitive topics.



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Justice for Collin: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

More from Myrriah: https://www.goodget.xyz/

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

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The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 16 Oct 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Andrea and the Nobody Should Believe Me team reflect on the emotional impact of making season 6 and the ethical considerations of reporting on Collin’s story. They also address listener feedback, explore the roles of perpetrators and medical professionals, and highlight the importance of accountability in philanthropy and child protection systems. Their conversation emphasizes the need for community engagement and the complexities of navigating these sensitive topics.



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Justice for Collin: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

More from Myrriah: https://www.goodget.xyz/

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

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For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Andrea and the Nobody Should Believe Me team reflect on the emotional impact of making season 6 and the ethical considerations of reporting on Collin’s story. They also address listener feedback, explore the roles of perpetrators and medical professionals, and highlight the importance of accountability in philanthropy and child protection systems. Their conversation emphasizes the need for community engagement and the complexities of navigating these sensitive topics.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>***</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Justice for Collin: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit"><u>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit</u></a></p>
<p>More from Myrriah: <a href="https://www.goodget.xyz/"><u>https://www.goodget.xyz/</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea's new book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Introducing: Fruitloops</title>
      <description>Two cousins. Four murders. One homicidal summer. In 2004, Angel Ford-Wright &amp; Caroline Peoples lured victims with false promises, then executed them. One confessed. One went to trial. Both got life.

***

Listen to Fruitloops: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fruitloops-serial-killers-of-color/id1400426755
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Two cousins. Four murders. One homicidal summer. In 2004, Angel Ford-Wright &amp; Caroline Peoples lured victims with false promises, then executed them. One confessed. One went to trial. Both got life.

***

Listen to Fruitloops: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fruitloops-serial-killers-of-color/id1400426755
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        <![CDATA[<p>Two cousins. Four murders. One homicidal summer. In 2004, Angel Ford-Wright &amp; Caroline Peoples lured victims with false promises, then executed them. One confessed. One went to trial. Both got life.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Listen to Fruitloops: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fruitloops-serial-killers-of-color/id1400426755"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fruitloops-serial-killers-of-color/id1400426755</u></a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>True Story Media Presents: Fruitloops</title>
      <description>Welcome to the final installment of True Story Media Presents! This week Andrea is talking to Wendy and Beth, the creators behind Fruitloops: Serial Killers of Color. The three of them chat about how they first met and what drove Wendy and Beth to dive into true crime podcasting. They reflect on the shared thread of how cultural and societal ideals shape policy and how that engages with true crime. Wendy and Beth share what they hope listeners take away from their podcast. They also touch on the case of Antoinette Frank—a New Orleans police officer turned murderer.

***

Listen to Fruitloops: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fruitloops-serial-killers-of-color/id1400426755

Listen to Antoinette Frank: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e80-antoinette-frank/id1400426755

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      <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2025 13:17:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Welcome to the final installment of True Story Media Presents! This week Andrea is talking to Wendy and Beth, the creators behind Fruitloops: Serial Killers of Color. The three of them chat about how they first met and what drove Wendy and Beth to dive into true crime podcasting. They reflect on the shared thread of how cultural and societal ideals shape policy and how that engages with true crime. Wendy and Beth share what they hope listeners take away from their podcast. They also touch on the case of Antoinette Frank—a New Orleans police officer turned murderer.

***

Listen to Fruitloops: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fruitloops-serial-killers-of-color/id1400426755

Listen to Antoinette Frank: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e80-antoinette-frank/id1400426755

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

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The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the final installment of True Story Media Presents! This week Andrea is talking to Wendy and Beth, the creators behind Fruitloops: Serial Killers of Color. The three of them chat about how they first met and what drove Wendy and Beth to dive into true crime podcasting. They reflect on the shared thread of how cultural and societal ideals shape policy and how that engages with true crime. Wendy and Beth share what they hope listeners take away from their podcast. They also touch on the case of Antoinette Frank—a New Orleans police officer turned murderer.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Listen to Fruitloops: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fruitloops-serial-killers-of-color/id1400426755"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fruitloops-serial-killers-of-color/id1400426755</u></a></p>
<p>Listen to Antoinette Frank: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e80-antoinette-frank/id1400426755"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e80-antoinette-frank/id1400426755</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
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      <title>Introducing: PRETEND</title>
      <description>LaDonna Humphrey. Remember that name because she is central to this story. I've tried to sum up this tale quickly, but every time I attempt an elevator pitch, I fail. When friends ask me what this new series is about, I'm at a loss for words. It's impossible to explain in just a few minutes.

I'm about to retell the story the way I learned it: completely out of order. By the end, you'll need a suspect board like the ones in the movies. I've conducted over 20 interviews and counting, and you're going to hear some far-fetched allegations from many different people—strangers who share one common thread: they've all crossed paths with LaDonna Humphrey.

There's a lot of he said, she said in this story, and I'll do my best to prove or disprove each claim. This series is going to be a long one, unfolding in real-time as you listen. By the end, I hope I've done enough for you to make up your own mind and understand why so many people are afraid of LaDonna Humphrey.

***

Listen to PRETEND: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend/id1245307962
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>LaDonna Humphrey. Remember that name because she is central to this story. I've tried to sum up this tale quickly, but every time I attempt an elevator pitch, I fail. When friends ask me what this new series is about, I'm at a loss for words. It's impossible to explain in just a few minutes.

I'm about to retell the story the way I learned it: completely out of order. By the end, you'll need a suspect board like the ones in the movies. I've conducted over 20 interviews and counting, and you're going to hear some far-fetched allegations from many different people—strangers who share one common thread: they've all crossed paths with LaDonna Humphrey.

There's a lot of he said, she said in this story, and I'll do my best to prove or disprove each claim. This series is going to be a long one, unfolding in real-time as you listen. By the end, I hope I've done enough for you to make up your own mind and understand why so many people are afraid of LaDonna Humphrey.

***

Listen to PRETEND: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend/id1245307962
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>LaDonna Humphrey. Remember that name because she is central to this story. I've tried to sum up this tale quickly, but every time I attempt an elevator pitch, I fail. When friends ask me what this new series is about, I'm at a loss for words. It's impossible to explain in just a few minutes.</p>
<p>I'm about to retell the story the way I learned it: completely out of order. By the end, you'll need a suspect board like the ones in the movies. I've conducted over 20 interviews and counting, and you're going to hear some far-fetched allegations from many different people—strangers who share one common thread: they've all crossed paths with LaDonna Humphrey.</p>
<p>There's a lot of he said, she said in this story, and I'll do my best to prove or disprove each claim. This series is going to be a long one, unfolding in real-time as you listen. By the end, I hope I've done enough for you to make up your own mind and understand why so many people are afraid of LaDonna Humphrey.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Listen to PRETEND: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend/id1245307962</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>True Story Media Presents: PRETEND</title>
      <description>In the third installment of True Story Media Presents, Andrea sits down with Javier Leiva—host and creator of PRETEND. The two talk about how they first connected, their new partnership under True Story Media, and the overlapping themes in their work. They dig into the emotional toll of telling true crime stories, and Javier shares his path from local news and documentary filmmaking into the world of true crime podcasting, and how his show has become a space to unravel deception, trauma, and control.

Javier also introduces listeners to one of his latest series: The Internet Saves the Bachelor. It follows former Bachelor star Clayton Echard as he’s pulled into a web of deception by Laura Owens—including a fabricated pregnancy that spiraled into chaos.

***

Listen to PRETEND: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend/id1245307962

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

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The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2025 04:15:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In the third installment of True Story Media Presents, Andrea sits down with Javier Leiva—host and creator of PRETEND. The two talk about how they first connected, their new partnership under True Story Media, and the overlapping themes in their work. They dig into the emotional toll of telling true crime stories, and Javier shares his path from local news and documentary filmmaking into the world of true crime podcasting, and how his show has become a space to unravel deception, trauma, and control.

Javier also introduces listeners to one of his latest series: The Internet Saves the Bachelor. It follows former Bachelor star Clayton Echard as he’s pulled into a web of deception by Laura Owens—including a fabricated pregnancy that spiraled into chaos.

***

Listen to PRETEND: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend/id1245307962

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In the third installment of True Story Media Presents, Andrea sits down with Javier Leiva—host and creator of <em>PRETEND</em>. The two talk about how they first connected, their new partnership under True Story Media, and the overlapping themes in their work. They dig into the emotional toll of telling true crime stories, and Javier shares his path from local news and documentary filmmaking into the world of true crime podcasting, and how his show has become a space to unravel deception, trauma, and control.</p>
<p>Javier also introduces listeners to one of his latest series: <em>The Internet Saves the Bachelor</em>. It follows former <em>Bachelor</em> star Clayton Echard as he’s pulled into a web of deception by Laura Owens—including a fabricated pregnancy that spiraled into chaos.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Listen to PRETEND: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend/id1245307962"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend/id1245307962</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3525</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Introducing: Dakota Spotlight</title>
      <description>September 1998 brought a chilling moment in Bismarck, North Dakota, when 17-year-old Aimee walked into the police station. She suspected her boyfriend, Brian Erickstad, had harmed his parents. A welfare check was meant to set things straight — but it uncovered something far worse.

Episode 1,  A Little Red Car, introduces Barbara and Gordon Erickstad’s case, a North Dakota true crime story that exposed violence hidden within a circle of teens.

***

Check out the full catalog and everything Dakota Spotlight: https://dakotaspotlight.com/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>September 1998 brought a chilling moment in Bismarck, North Dakota, when 17-year-old Aimee walked into the police station. She suspected her boyfriend, Brian Erickstad, had harmed his parents. A welfare check was meant to set things straight — but it uncovered something far worse.

Episode 1,  A Little Red Car, introduces Barbara and Gordon Erickstad’s case, a North Dakota true crime story that exposed violence hidden within a circle of teens.

***

Check out the full catalog and everything Dakota Spotlight: https://dakotaspotlight.com/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>September 1998 brought a chilling moment in Bismarck, North Dakota, when 17-year-old Aimee walked into the police station. She suspected her boyfriend, Brian Erickstad, had harmed his parents. A welfare check was meant to set things straight — but it uncovered something far worse.</p>
<p>Episode 1,  A Little Red Car, introduces Barbara and Gordon Erickstad’s case, a North Dakota true crime story that exposed violence hidden within a circle of teens.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Check out the full catalog and everything Dakota Spotlight: https://dakotaspotlight.com/</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>True Story Media Presents: Dakota Spotlight</title>
      <description>In this special crossover, Andrea talks with James Wolner, creator of Dakota Spotlight—another show in her True Story Media network—about how a rumor in a rural North Dakota bar led him to pick up a microphone in 2019 and start chasing the truth. Together, Andrea and James dig into what it means to practice ethical reporting in a medium with no rules.

James shares a case from season three of Dakota Spotlight: The House on Sweet and Seventh. A story of teenagers with a “Manson-esque” circle of loyalty and the brutal murder of two parents by their adopted son and his friend. 

***

https://dakotaspotlight.com/

Listen to Dakota Spotlight: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dakota-spotlight-true-crime-cold-case-investigations/id1451783176

Join Dakota Spotlight’s Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/DakotaSpotlight/

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

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For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this special crossover, Andrea talks with James Wolner, creator of Dakota Spotlight—another show in her True Story Media network—about how a rumor in a rural North Dakota bar led him to pick up a microphone in 2019 and start chasing the truth. Together, Andrea and James dig into what it means to practice ethical reporting in a medium with no rules.

James shares a case from season three of Dakota Spotlight: The House on Sweet and Seventh. A story of teenagers with a “Manson-esque” circle of loyalty and the brutal murder of two parents by their adopted son and his friend. 

***

https://dakotaspotlight.com/

Listen to Dakota Spotlight: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dakota-spotlight-true-crime-cold-case-investigations/id1451783176

Join Dakota Spotlight’s Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/DakotaSpotlight/

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this special crossover, Andrea talks with James Wolner, creator of <em>Dakota Spotlight</em>—another show in her True Story Media network—about how a rumor in a rural North Dakota bar led him to pick up a microphone in 2019 and start chasing the truth. Together, Andrea and James dig into what it means to practice ethical reporting in a medium with no rules.</p>
<p>James shares a case from season three of <em>Dakota Spotlight</em>: <em>The House on Sweet and Seventh</em>. A story of teenagers with a “Manson-esque” circle of loyalty and the brutal murder of two parents by their adopted son and his friend. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p><a href="https://dakotaspotlight.com/"><u>https://dakotaspotlight.com/</u></a></p>
<p>Listen to Dakota Spotlight: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dakota-spotlight-true-crime-cold-case-investigations/id1451783176"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dakota-spotlight-true-crime-cold-case-investigations/id1451783176</u></a></p>
<p>Join Dakota Spotlight’s Facebook Group: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/DakotaSpotlight/"><u>https://www.facebook.com/DakotaSpotlight/</u></a></p>
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<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
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      <title>True Story Media Presents: Affirmative Murder</title>
      <description>We’re kicking off our new series introducing the shows of True Story Media, Andrea’s ethical true crime network. In this conversation, Andrea sits down with Alvin, the host and creator of Affirmative Murder, to talk about the wild landscape of podcasting in 2025. They dive into questions of diversity and representation, the ethics of telling real-life stories, and what’s at stake when we shine a spotlight on tragedy.

From unpacking the recent P. Diddy trial and its ripple effects in the media, to reflecting on the bravery of Erica Pratt—a young girl who escaped a kidnapping—Andrea and Alvin explore how true crime intersects with politics, parenting, and the stories we choose to tell. 

***

Listen to Affirmative Murder: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/affirmative-murder/id1296864488

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      <pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2025 17:42:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>We’re kicking off our new series introducing the shows of True Story Media, Andrea’s ethical true crime network. In this conversation, Andrea sits down with Alvin, the host and creator of Affirmative Murder, to talk about the wild landscape of podcasting in 2025. They dive into questions of diversity and representation, the ethics of telling real-life stories, and what’s at stake when we shine a spotlight on tragedy.

From unpacking the recent P. Diddy trial and its ripple effects in the media, to reflecting on the bravery of Erica Pratt—a young girl who escaped a kidnapping—Andrea and Alvin explore how true crime intersects with politics, parenting, and the stories we choose to tell. 

***

Listen to Affirmative Murder: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/affirmative-murder/id1296864488

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We’re kicking off our new series introducing the shows of True Story Media, Andrea’s ethical true crime network. In this conversation, Andrea sits down with Alvin, the host and creator of Affirmative Murder, to talk about the wild landscape of podcasting in 2025. They dive into questions of diversity and representation, the ethics of telling real-life stories, and what’s at stake when we shine a spotlight on tragedy.</p>
<p>From unpacking the recent P. Diddy trial and its ripple effects in the media, to reflecting on the bravery of Erica Pratt—a young girl who escaped a kidnapping—Andrea and Alvin explore how true crime intersects with politics, parenting, and the stories we choose to tell. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Listen to Affirmative Murder: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/affirmative-murder/id1296864488"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/affirmative-murder/id1296864488</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S06 E10: Ripple Effects</title>
      <description>This week, we hear more from Mishelle about the impact of The Guthy Jackson Foundation’s response to the revelations about Lisa McDaniel is having on her family. We examine how Lisa’s long tenure with the foundation shaped research, messaging, and trust in the NMO community, and what it means when one person’s deception ripples out so far. 

We also hear from listener Bekah Rhea, whose perspective as both a researcher and someone living with a disability adds a sharp lens to the caretaker narrative at the center of so many advocacy efforts. 

***

This episode discusses allegations and interpretations based on court records, public documents, interviews, and reporting. All organizations and individuals mentioned have been given the opportunity to respond, and their statements are included where provided. Nothing here should be taken as a claim of personal culpability beyond what has been legally or publicly established.

***

Justice for Collin: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

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      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2025 20:11:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>This week, we hear more from Mishelle about the impact of The Guthy Jackson Foundation’s response to the revelations about Lisa McDaniel is having on her family. We examine how Lisa’s long tenure with the foundation shaped research, messaging, and trust in the NMO community, and what it means when one person’s deception ripples out so far. 

We also hear from listener Bekah Rhea, whose perspective as both a researcher and someone living with a disability adds a sharp lens to the caretaker narrative at the center of so many advocacy efforts. 

***

This episode discusses allegations and interpretations based on court records, public documents, interviews, and reporting. All organizations and individuals mentioned have been given the opportunity to respond, and their statements are included where provided. Nothing here should be taken as a claim of personal culpability beyond what has been legally or publicly established.

***

Justice for Collin: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

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Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week, we hear more from Mishelle about the impact of The Guthy Jackson Foundation’s response to the revelations about Lisa McDaniel is having on her family. We examine how Lisa’s long tenure with the foundation shaped research, messaging, and trust in the NMO community, and what it means when one person’s deception ripples out so far. </p>
<p>We also hear from listener Bekah Rhea, whose perspective as both a researcher and someone living with a disability adds a sharp lens to the caretaker narrative at the center of so many advocacy efforts. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>This episode discusses allegations and interpretations based on court records, public documents, interviews, and reporting. All organizations and individuals mentioned have been given the opportunity to respond, and their statements are included where provided. Nothing here should be taken as a claim of personal culpability beyond what has been legally or publicly established.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Justice for Collin: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit"><u>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea's new book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S06 E09: Fallout</title>
      <description>As the story of the McDaniel family continues to send shockwaves through the communities Lisa was involved with, we check in with Mishelle about what else has come to light and what her mother has been up to since the season aired. 

We take a deeper dive into the of role of The Guthy Jackson Foundation–Lisa’s former employer– and cover how they’ve responded to the news about Lisa. 

We also speak to Rob Reich, Professor of Political Science at Stanford University and author of Just Giving: Why Philanthropy Is Failing Democracy and How It Can Do Better–to give us context for foundations like Guthy-Jackson and why we should pay attention to them. 

***

This episode discusses allegations and interpretations based on court records, public documents, interviews, and reporting. All organizations and individuals mentioned have been given the opportunity to respond, and their statements are included where provided. Nothing here should be taken as a claim of personal culpability beyond what has been legally or publicly established.

***

Read Just Giving by Rob Reich: https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691183497/just-giving

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded  here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 05 Sep 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6ce33802-89e5-11f0-8e07-17de8dac193d/image/1ad466ef91d61e149bf3f133a7072c14.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>As the story of the McDaniel family continues to send shockwaves through the communities Lisa was involved with, we check in with Mishelle about what else has come to light and what her mother has been up to since the season aired. 

We take a deeper dive into the of role of The Guthy Jackson Foundation–Lisa’s former employer– and cover how they’ve responded to the news about Lisa. 

We also speak to Rob Reich, Professor of Political Science at Stanford University and author of Just Giving: Why Philanthropy Is Failing Democracy and How It Can Do Better–to give us context for foundations like Guthy-Jackson and why we should pay attention to them. 

***

This episode discusses allegations and interpretations based on court records, public documents, interviews, and reporting. All organizations and individuals mentioned have been given the opportunity to respond, and their statements are included where provided. Nothing here should be taken as a claim of personal culpability beyond what has been legally or publicly established.

***

Read Just Giving by Rob Reich: https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691183497/just-giving

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded  here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>As the story of the McDaniel family continues to send shockwaves through the communities Lisa was involved with, we check in with Mishelle about what else has come to light and what her mother has been up to since the season aired. </p>
<p>We take a deeper dive into the of role of The Guthy Jackson Foundation–Lisa’s former employer– and cover how they’ve responded to the news about Lisa. </p>
<p>We also speak to Rob Reich, Professor of Political Science at Stanford University and author of <em>Just Giving: Why Philanthropy Is Failing Democracy and How It Can Do Better</em>–to give us context for foundations like Guthy-Jackson and why we should pay attention to them. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>This episode discusses allegations and interpretations based on court records, public documents, interviews, and reporting. All organizations and individuals mentioned have been given the opportunity to respond, and their statements are included where provided. Nothing here should be taken as a claim of personal culpability beyond what has been legally or publicly established.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Read <em>Just Giving</em> by Rob Reich: <a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691183497/just-giving"><u>https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691183497/just-giving</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea's new book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Case Files 24: Women Who Lead Double Lives with Sarah Treleaven</title>
      <description>Today we have a very special crossover episode with journalist and host/producer of The Con: Katilyn’s Baby, Sarah Treleaven. Sarah and Andrea recount how they met many years ago and the similarities in their work with Munchausen and Munchausen adjacent stories. Sarah reveals a personal story about how she got into this line of work.

Kaitlyn’s Baby, is about a woman that had been serially fabricating pregnancies, contacting doulas, and once they had agreed to help, taking them through a series of escalating crises. Andrea and Sarah dive into the depth of emotional betrayal experienced by the victims in this case and the thrill of deception experienced by these perpetrators. Sarah talks about the lack of framework in the criminal justice system for someone who has not been physically harmed or cheated out of their money or property, as well as the complicated questions that arise for her as she investigates these cases.

***

Listen to The Con: Kaitlyn’s Baby: https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/the-con-kaitlyns-baby/id1663956121

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

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For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2025 18:52:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/1df4904c-8440-11f0-aeb7-0b5e48389bdb/image/de198ad4311fa146fac01e8926b9b1bf.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Today we have a very special crossover episode with journalist and host/producer of The Con: Katilyn’s Baby, Sarah Treleaven. Sarah and Andrea recount how they met many years ago and the similarities in their work with Munchausen and Munchausen adjacent stories. Sarah reveals a personal story about how she got into this line of work.

Kaitlyn’s Baby, is about a woman that had been serially fabricating pregnancies, contacting doulas, and once they had agreed to help, taking them through a series of escalating crises. Andrea and Sarah dive into the depth of emotional betrayal experienced by the victims in this case and the thrill of deception experienced by these perpetrators. Sarah talks about the lack of framework in the criminal justice system for someone who has not been physically harmed or cheated out of their money or property, as well as the complicated questions that arise for her as she investigates these cases.

***

Listen to The Con: Kaitlyn’s Baby: https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/the-con-kaitlyns-baby/id1663956121

Order Andrea’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Today we have a very special crossover episode with journalist and host/producer of The Con: Katilyn’s Baby, Sarah Treleaven. Sarah and Andrea recount how they met many years ago and the similarities in their work with Munchausen and Munchausen adjacent stories. Sarah reveals a personal story about how she got into this line of work.</p>
<p>Kaitlyn’s Baby, is about a woman that had been serially fabricating pregnancies, contacting doulas, and once they had agreed to help, taking them through a series of escalating crises. Andrea and Sarah dive into the depth of emotional betrayal experienced by the victims in this case and the thrill of deception experienced by these perpetrators. Sarah talks about the lack of framework in the criminal justice system for someone who has not been physically harmed or cheated out of their money or property, as well as the complicated questions that arise for her as she investigates these cases.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Listen to The Con: Kaitlyn’s Baby: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/the-con-kaitlyns-baby/id1663956121"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/at/podcast/the-con-kaitlyns-baby/id1663956121</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
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<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Case Files 23: Mike Weber Retirement Special</title>
      <description>Welcome to the Mike Weber Retirement Special! Mike gives us a brief glimpse into what he’s been up to since retirement and talks to Andrea about his experience publishing their co-authored novel, The Mother Next Door. Andrea asks Mike to give his thoughts on the Lisa McDaniel case from a law enforcement perspective, and he details his outreach to the Birmingham Police Department, stressing the importance of public pressure for an investigation.

Then, we hear a clip from a 2023 training he did - demonstrative of the push back within criminal justice agencies when it comes to medical child abuse. Mike also gives an update on Mary Welch’s burgeoning political career. 

***

Mike Weber Consulting

Justice for Collin: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

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      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2025 17:26:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Welcome to the Mike Weber Retirement Special! Mike gives us a brief glimpse into what he’s been up to since retirement and talks to Andrea about his experience publishing their co-authored novel, The Mother Next Door. Andrea asks Mike to give his thoughts on the Lisa McDaniel case from a law enforcement perspective, and he details his outreach to the Birmingham Police Department, stressing the importance of public pressure for an investigation.

Then, we hear a clip from a 2023 training he did - demonstrative of the push back within criminal justice agencies when it comes to medical child abuse. Mike also gives an update on Mary Welch’s burgeoning political career. 

***

Mike Weber Consulting

Justice for Collin: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

Order Andrea and Mike’s book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the Mike Weber Retirement Special! Mike gives us a brief glimpse into what he’s been up to since retirement and talks to Andrea about his experience publishing their co-authored novel, <em>The Mother Next Door</em>. Andrea asks Mike to give his thoughts on the Lisa McDaniel case from a law enforcement perspective, and he details his outreach to the Birmingham Police Department, stressing the importance of public pressure for an investigation.</p>
<p>Then, we hear a clip from a 2023 training he did - demonstrative of the push back within criminal justice agencies when it comes to medical child abuse. Mike also gives an update on Mary Welch’s burgeoning political career. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p><a href="https://www.mikeweberconsulting.com/"><u>Mike Weber Consulting</u></a></p>
<p>Justice for Collin: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit?usp=sharing"><u>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea and Mike’s book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>NSBM After Hours: Anatomy of Lies Part 1</title>
      <description>We're unlocking an episode from the subscriber feed. Enjoy!

***

This is the first part of Andrea and Dr. Bex’s coverage of the Peacock documentary series “Anatomy of Lies”. The show dives into the story of Elisabeth Finch, who was best known as a head writer on “Grey’s Anatomy”, and the lies that her life was built on. In their conversation about the first part of this docuseries, Andrea and Dr. Bex discuss Munchausen syndrome, the impact of false narratives in storytelling, particularly when it comes to claims of personal trauma, and how Finch’s claims intersected with the public discourse of the Me Too era.

***

Listen to the rest of this series: https://www.patreon.com/collection/1433425

Watch “Anatomy of Lies”: https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/anatomy-of-lies/6024435431465947112

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Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

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The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2025 22:42:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>We're unlocking an episode from the subscriber feed. Enjoy!

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This is the first part of Andrea and Dr. Bex’s coverage of the Peacock documentary series “Anatomy of Lies”. The show dives into the story of Elisabeth Finch, who was best known as a head writer on “Grey’s Anatomy”, and the lies that her life was built on. In their conversation about the first part of this docuseries, Andrea and Dr. Bex discuss Munchausen syndrome, the impact of false narratives in storytelling, particularly when it comes to claims of personal trauma, and how Finch’s claims intersected with the public discourse of the Me Too era.

***

Listen to the rest of this series: https://www.patreon.com/collection/1433425

Watch “Anatomy of Lies”: https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/anatomy-of-lies/6024435431465947112

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We're unlocking an episode from the subscriber feed. Enjoy!</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>This is the first part of Andrea and Dr. Bex’s coverage of the Peacock documentary series “Anatomy of Lies”. The show dives into the story of Elisabeth Finch, who was best known as a head writer on “Grey’s Anatomy”, and the lies that her life was built on. In their conversation about the first part of this docuseries, Andrea and Dr. Bex discuss Munchausen syndrome, the impact of false narratives in storytelling, particularly when it comes to claims of personal trauma, and how Finch’s claims intersected with the public discourse of the Me Too era.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Listen to the rest of this series: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/collection/1433425"><u>https://www.patreon.com/collection/1433425</u></a></p>
<p>Watch “Anatomy of Lies”: <a href="https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/anatomy-of-lies/6024435431465947112"><u>https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/anatomy-of-lies/6024435431465947112</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea's new book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S06 E08: May He Rest </title>
      <description>In our season finale, Andrea comes face-to-face with Lisa McDaniel, the woman at the center of this story when she arrives on her doorstep with television journalist Meredith Anderson to request an interview. 

As they process the revealing conversation with Mishelle, they reflect on the ripple effects that this story has already had on the McDaniel family, and for Lisa’s former employer, the Guthy-Jackson Foundations. 

 Drawing parallels between Collin’s case and that of Olivia Gant, Andrea speaks with Melissa Kalish, the lead detective in the investigation of Kelly Turner, Olivia’s mother for insight and, perhaps, a roadmap.

Mishelle reflects on what justice would mean for her, as she and her aunt Sabrina reclaim their memories of Collin. 

***

Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 

***

This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.

The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.

Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.

This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.

These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.

The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.

Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In our season finale, Andrea comes face-to-face with Lisa McDaniel, the woman at the center of this story when she arrives on her doorstep with television journalist Meredith Anderson to request an interview. 

As they process the revealing conversation with Mishelle, they reflect on the ripple effects that this story has already had on the McDaniel family, and for Lisa’s former employer, the Guthy-Jackson Foundations. 

 Drawing parallels between Collin’s case and that of Olivia Gant, Andrea speaks with Melissa Kalish, the lead detective in the investigation of Kelly Turner, Olivia’s mother for insight and, perhaps, a roadmap.

Mishelle reflects on what justice would mean for her, as she and her aunt Sabrina reclaim their memories of Collin. 

***

Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 

***

This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.

The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.

Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.

This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.

These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.

The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.

Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In our season finale, Andrea comes face-to-face with Lisa McDaniel, the woman at the center of this story when she arrives on her doorstep with television journalist Meredith Anderson to request an interview. </p>
<p>As they process the revealing conversation with Mishelle, they reflect on the ripple effects that this story has already had on the McDaniel family, and for Lisa’s former employer, the Guthy-Jackson Foundations. </p>
<p> Drawing parallels between Collin’s case and that of Olivia Gant, Andrea speaks with Melissa Kalish, the lead detective in the investigation of Kelly Turner, Olivia’s mother for insight and, perhaps, a roadmap.</p>
<p>Mishelle reflects on what justice would mean for her, as she and her aunt Sabrina reclaim their memories of Collin. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD</p>
<p>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit</p>
<p>Order Andrea's new book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.</p>
<p>The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.</p>
<p>Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.</p>
<p>This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.</p>
<p>These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.</p>
<p>The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.</p>
<p>Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S06 E07: Cleaning Out the Basement </title>
      <description>Mishelle recounts how she and her sister, Angellyn, stumbled upon their past medical and court records while helping Lisa and Carey move. This discovery prompted the sisters to reach out to people who could offer a perspective unfiltered by their mother’s influence: Judy, the PICU nurse who once treated Angellyn, and Bea Yorker, the Munchausen by proxy expert who testified against Lisa more than twenty years ago. 

***

Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 

***

This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.

The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.

Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.

This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.

These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.

The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.

Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Mishelle recounts how she and her sister, Angellyn, stumbled upon their past medical and court records while helping Lisa and Carey move. This discovery prompted the sisters to reach out to people who could offer a perspective unfiltered by their mother’s influence: Judy, the PICU nurse who once treated Angellyn, and Bea Yorker, the Munchausen by proxy expert who testified against Lisa more than twenty years ago. 

***

Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 

***

This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.

The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.

Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.

This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.

These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.

The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.

Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Mishelle recounts how she and her sister, Angellyn, stumbled upon their past medical and court records while helping Lisa and Carey move. This discovery prompted the sisters to reach out to people who could offer a perspective unfiltered by their mother’s influence: Judy, the PICU nurse who once treated Angellyn, and Bea Yorker, the Munchausen by proxy expert who testified against Lisa more than twenty years ago. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD</p>
<p>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit</p>
<p>Order Andrea's new book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.</p>
<p>The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.</p>
<p>Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.</p>
<p>This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.</p>
<p>These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.</p>
<p>The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.</p>
<p>Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S06 E06: Dr. Ness </title>
      <description>On this week’s episode, we hear Mishelle’s phone call with Dr. Jayne Ness, Collin’s treating physician, who shares concerning insights into Collin’s treatment—notably, that she was never certain Collin had NMO and that she had serious concerns for abuse. Andrea then speaks with Dr. Kenneth Feldman, a Child Abuse Pediatrician and Clinical Professor of Pediatrics at the University of Washington, about how physicians become entangled with Munchausen by Proxy perpetrators. Dr. Feldman also discusses the online behavior of perpetrators.

Andrea then traces Lisa’s advocacy efforts following Collin’s death, starting with a now-defunct 501(c)(3) organization and eventually leading to her work with the Guthy Jackson Foundation. Mishelle goes on to describe how, after Collin’s passing, Lisa began faking her own illness. 

***

Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

Andrea’s August 1st event with Gregg Olsen: https://www.libertybaybooks.com/event/west-sound-crime-con-2025-local-authors-gregg-olsen-and-andrea-dunlop

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 

***

This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.

The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.

Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.

This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.

These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.

The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.

Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7b6a65a2-4c97-11f0-aedc-6be9a2798ce0/image/93abb6e97ee25ca5929abead8b728fd7.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>On this week’s episode, we hear Mishelle’s phone call with Dr. Jayne Ness, Collin’s treating physician, who shares concerning insights into Collin’s treatment—notably, that she was never certain Collin had NMO and that she had serious concerns for abuse. Andrea then speaks with Dr. Kenneth Feldman, a Child Abuse Pediatrician and Clinical Professor of Pediatrics at the University of Washington, about how physicians become entangled with Munchausen by Proxy perpetrators. Dr. Feldman also discusses the online behavior of perpetrators.

Andrea then traces Lisa’s advocacy efforts following Collin’s death, starting with a now-defunct 501(c)(3) organization and eventually leading to her work with the Guthy Jackson Foundation. Mishelle goes on to describe how, after Collin’s passing, Lisa began faking her own illness. 

***

Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

Andrea’s August 1st event with Gregg Olsen: https://www.libertybaybooks.com/event/west-sound-crime-con-2025-local-authors-gregg-olsen-and-andrea-dunlop

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 

***

This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.

The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.

Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.

This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.

These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.

The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.

Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>On this week’s episode, we hear Mishelle’s phone call with Dr. Jayne Ness, Collin’s treating physician, who shares concerning insights into Collin’s treatment—notably, that she was never certain Collin had NMO and that she had serious concerns for abuse. Andrea then speaks with Dr. Kenneth Feldman, a Child Abuse Pediatrician and Clinical Professor of Pediatrics at the University of Washington, about how physicians become entangled with Munchausen by Proxy perpetrators. Dr. Feldman also discusses the online behavior of perpetrators.</p>
<p>Andrea then traces Lisa’s advocacy efforts following Collin’s death, starting with a now-defunct 501(c)(3) organization and eventually leading to her work with the Guthy Jackson Foundation. Mishelle goes on to describe how, after Collin’s passing, Lisa began faking her own illness. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD</p>
<p>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit</p>
<p>Andrea’s August 1st event with Gregg Olsen: <a href="https://www.libertybaybooks.com/event/west-sound-crime-con-2025-local-authors-gregg-olsen-and-andrea-dunlop"><u>https://www.libertybaybooks.com/event/west-sound-crime-con-2025-local-authors-gregg-olsen-and-andrea-dunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea's new book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.</p>
<p>The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.</p>
<p>Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.</p>
<p>This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.</p>
<p>These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.</p>
<p>The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.</p>
<p>Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S06 E05: “But she’s my mama”</title>
      <description>As Lisa escalates Collin’s medication regimen and pushing for risky experimental treatments, we examine the gulf between Lisa’s reports of Collin’s symptoms and known cases of NMO.  

We also see the beginning of Lisa’s connection to the Guthy Jackson Foundation, a high-profile non-profit, dedicated to NMO awareness and research. Collin’s condition rapidly declines, and he is placed on hospice care. Sabrina and Mishelle share heartbreaking memories of Collin’s final days, offering a deeply emotional and personal perspective on this tragic chapter.

***

If you or someone you know is struggling, please call 988 or visit https://988lifeline.org/

***

Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

Andrea’s August 1st event with Gregg Olsen: https://www.libertybaybooks.com/event/west-sound-crime-con-2025-local-authors-gregg-olsen-and-andrea-dunlop

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 

***

This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.

The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.

Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.

This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.

These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.

The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.

Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7b6821a2-4c74-11f0-8c7d-87b8c05ca639/image/93abb6e97ee25ca5929abead8b728fd7.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>As Lisa escalates Collin’s medication regimen and pushing for risky experimental treatments, we examine the gulf between Lisa’s reports of Collin’s symptoms and known cases of NMO.  

We also see the beginning of Lisa’s connection to the Guthy Jackson Foundation, a high-profile non-profit, dedicated to NMO awareness and research. Collin’s condition rapidly declines, and he is placed on hospice care. Sabrina and Mishelle share heartbreaking memories of Collin’s final days, offering a deeply emotional and personal perspective on this tragic chapter.

***

If you or someone you know is struggling, please call 988 or visit https://988lifeline.org/

***

Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

Andrea’s August 1st event with Gregg Olsen: https://www.libertybaybooks.com/event/west-sound-crime-con-2025-local-authors-gregg-olsen-and-andrea-dunlop

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 

***

This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.

The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.

Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.

This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.

These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.

The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.

Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>As Lisa escalates Collin’s medication regimen and pushing for risky experimental treatments, we examine the gulf between Lisa’s reports of Collin’s symptoms and known cases of NMO.  </p>
<p>We also see the beginning of Lisa’s connection to the Guthy Jackson Foundation, a high-profile non-profit, dedicated to NMO awareness and research. Collin’s condition rapidly declines, and he is placed on hospice care. Sabrina and Mishelle share heartbreaking memories of Collin’s final days, offering a deeply emotional and personal perspective on this tragic chapter.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>If you or someone you know is struggling, please call 988 or visit <a href="https://988lifeline.org/"><u>https://988lifeline.org/</u></a></p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD</p>
<p>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit</p>
<p>Andrea’s August 1st event with Gregg Olsen: <a href="https://www.libertybaybooks.com/event/west-sound-crime-con-2025-local-authors-gregg-olsen-and-andrea-dunlop"><u>https://www.libertybaybooks.com/event/west-sound-crime-con-2025-local-authors-gregg-olsen-and-andrea-dunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea's new book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.</p>
<p>The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.</p>
<p>Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.</p>
<p>This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.</p>
<p>These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.</p>
<p>The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.</p>
<p>Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S06 E04: The Caretaker </title>
      <description>Mishelle describes her brother Collin as a vibrant little boy who loved to joke around and make people laugh. All of that changed, seemingly overnight. Sabrina and Mishelle walk Andrea through their memory of the timeline of Collin’s symptoms, and his eventual diagnosis with NMO (Neuromyelitis Optica). This recounting of events exposes some discrepancies in the family’s memory and Lisa’s public story, as well as a rapid escalation in the medication given to Collin.

We’re introduced to Lisa’s blog on CaringBridge, where she kept a detailed account of Collin’s medical journey. She quickly begins referring to NMO as a fatal disease, even mentioning the possibility of hospice care. However, this portrayal is challenged by a pediatric neuroimmunologist we’ll refer to as Dr. K, who specializes in NMO. Dr. K offers a clear explanation of what Neuromyelitis Optica is, the diagnostic criteria, and just how rare the condition is—particularly in children.

As suspicions grow within their tight-knit community and the family’s financial support runs dry, the McDaniels relocate to Alabama to seek care from NMO expert Dr. Jayne Ness.

***

Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

Andrea’s August 1st event with Gregg Olsen: https://www.libertybaybooks.com/event/west-sound-crime-con-2025-local-authors-gregg-olsen-and-andrea-dunlop

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 

***

This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.

The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.

Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.

This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.

These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.

The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.

Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Mishelle describes her brother Collin as a vibrant little boy who loved to joke around and make people laugh. All of that changed, seemingly overnight. Sabrina and Mishelle walk Andrea through their memory of the timeline of Collin’s symptoms, and his eventual diagnosis with NMO (Neuromyelitis Optica). This recounting of events exposes some discrepancies in the family’s memory and Lisa’s public story, as well as a rapid escalation in the medication given to Collin.

We’re introduced to Lisa’s blog on CaringBridge, where she kept a detailed account of Collin’s medical journey. She quickly begins referring to NMO as a fatal disease, even mentioning the possibility of hospice care. However, this portrayal is challenged by a pediatric neuroimmunologist we’ll refer to as Dr. K, who specializes in NMO. Dr. K offers a clear explanation of what Neuromyelitis Optica is, the diagnostic criteria, and just how rare the condition is—particularly in children.

As suspicions grow within their tight-knit community and the family’s financial support runs dry, the McDaniels relocate to Alabama to seek care from NMO expert Dr. Jayne Ness.

***

Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

Andrea’s August 1st event with Gregg Olsen: https://www.libertybaybooks.com/event/west-sound-crime-con-2025-local-authors-gregg-olsen-and-andrea-dunlop

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 

***

This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.

The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.

Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.

This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.

These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.

The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.

Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Mishelle describes her brother Collin as a vibrant little boy who loved to joke around and make people laugh. All of that changed, seemingly overnight. Sabrina and Mishelle walk Andrea through their memory of the timeline of Collin’s symptoms, and his eventual diagnosis with NMO (Neuromyelitis Optica). This recounting of events exposes some discrepancies in the family’s memory and Lisa’s public story, as well as a rapid escalation in the medication given to Collin.</p>
<p>We’re introduced to Lisa’s blog on CaringBridge, where she kept a detailed account of Collin’s medical journey. She quickly begins referring to NMO as a fatal disease, even mentioning the possibility of hospice care. However, this portrayal is challenged by a pediatric neuroimmunologist we’ll refer to as Dr. K, who specializes in NMO. Dr. K offers a clear explanation of what Neuromyelitis Optica is, the diagnostic criteria, and just how rare the condition is—particularly in children.</p>
<p>As suspicions grow within their tight-knit community and the family’s financial support runs dry, the McDaniels relocate to Alabama to seek care from NMO expert Dr. Jayne Ness.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD</p>
<p>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit</p>
<p>Andrea’s August 1st event with Gregg Olsen: <a href="https://www.libertybaybooks.com/event/west-sound-crime-con-2025-local-authors-gregg-olsen-and-andrea-dunlop"><u>https://www.libertybaybooks.com/event/west-sound-crime-con-2025-local-authors-gregg-olsen-and-andrea-dunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea's new book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.</p>
<p>The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.</p>
<p>Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.</p>
<p>This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.</p>
<p>These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.</p>
<p>The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.</p>
<p>Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S06 E03: “Open, Reliable, and Trustworthy”</title>
      <description>We begin this week’s episode with a young Mishelle struggling to adjust to life with her grandparents, finding it difficult to accept both the separation from her parents and the reality of what her mother had done. Meanwhile, Lisa is in the midst of a police investigation, undergoing a psychological evaluation and attending therapy.

We hear from Bea Yorker—an expert in Munchausen by Proxy and the President of Munchausen Support—and Dr. Mary Sanders, a Clinical Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at Stanford University and a member of APSAC’s Munchausen by Proxy committee. They explain what should have been considered during Lisa’s evaluation and what it truly means to "treat" someone with Munchausen by Proxy.

Armed with letters from therapists attesting to her remorse, Lisa turns to the online forum MAMA (Mothers Against Munchausen Allegations) to build her case for court. There, she begins digging for information on enemy number one: Bea Yorker. 

***

Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 

***

This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.

The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.

Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.

This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.

These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.

The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.

Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>We begin this week’s episode with a young Mishelle struggling to adjust to life with her grandparents, finding it difficult to accept both the separation from her parents and the reality of what her mother had done. Meanwhile, Lisa is in the midst of a police investigation, undergoing a psychological evaluation and attending therapy.

We hear from Bea Yorker—an expert in Munchausen by Proxy and the President of Munchausen Support—and Dr. Mary Sanders, a Clinical Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at Stanford University and a member of APSAC’s Munchausen by Proxy committee. They explain what should have been considered during Lisa’s evaluation and what it truly means to "treat" someone with Munchausen by Proxy.

Armed with letters from therapists attesting to her remorse, Lisa turns to the online forum MAMA (Mothers Against Munchausen Allegations) to build her case for court. There, she begins digging for information on enemy number one: Bea Yorker. 

***

Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 

***

This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.

The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.

Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.

This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.

These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.

The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.

Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We begin this week’s episode with a young Mishelle struggling to adjust to life with her grandparents, finding it difficult to accept both the separation from her parents and the reality of what her mother had done. Meanwhile, Lisa is in the midst of a police investigation, undergoing a psychological evaluation and attending therapy.</p>
<p>We hear from Bea Yorker—an expert in Munchausen by Proxy and the President of Munchausen Support—and Dr. Mary Sanders, a Clinical Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at Stanford University and a member of APSAC’s Munchausen by Proxy committee. They explain what should have been considered during Lisa’s evaluation and what it truly means to "treat" someone with Munchausen by Proxy.</p>
<p>Armed with letters from therapists attesting to her remorse, Lisa turns to the online forum MAMA (Mothers Against Munchausen Allegations) to build her case for court. There, she begins digging for information on enemy number one: Bea Yorker. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD</p>
<p>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit</p>
<p>Order Andrea's new book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.</p>
<p>The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.</p>
<p>Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.</p>
<p>This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.</p>
<p>These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.</p>
<p>The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.</p>
<p>Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S06 E02: “How Could Someone Do That to a Child?” </title>
      <description>Lisa’s second child, Angellyn, was born prematurely and in a medically fragile state. Mishelle and her aunt Sabrina recount a troubling pattern: just as Angellyn would be cleared for hospital discharge, doctors would abruptly reverse course, warning that she might not survive the night.

Andrea speaks to a nurse, “Judy”, who was working in the Pediatric Intensive Care Unit (PICU) at the time of Angellyn’s hospitalizations. Judy walks us through the medical team’s growing suspicions and their decision to install surveillance cameras in Angellyn’s hospital room. The footage reveals deeply disturbing behavior by Lisa and Carey’s utter compliance, prompting an investigation into the parents. Ultimately, custody of both Mishelle and Angellyn was revoked, and the children were placed with their maternal grandparents.

***

Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

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The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 

***

This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.

The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.

Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.

This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.

These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.

The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.

Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Lisa’s second child, Angellyn, was born prematurely and in a medically fragile state. Mishelle and her aunt Sabrina recount a troubling pattern: just as Angellyn would be cleared for hospital discharge, doctors would abruptly reverse course, warning that she might not survive the night.

Andrea speaks to a nurse, “Judy”, who was working in the Pediatric Intensive Care Unit (PICU) at the time of Angellyn’s hospitalizations. Judy walks us through the medical team’s growing suspicions and their decision to install surveillance cameras in Angellyn’s hospital room. The footage reveals deeply disturbing behavior by Lisa and Carey’s utter compliance, prompting an investigation into the parents. Ultimately, custody of both Mishelle and Angellyn was revoked, and the children were placed with their maternal grandparents.

***

Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

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For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 

***

This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.

The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.

Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.

This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.

These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.

The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.

Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Lisa’s second child, Angellyn, was born prematurely and in a medically fragile state. Mishelle and her aunt Sabrina recount a troubling pattern: just as Angellyn would be cleared for hospital discharge, doctors would abruptly reverse course, warning that she might not survive the night.</p>
<p>Andrea speaks to a nurse, “Judy”, who was working in the Pediatric Intensive Care Unit (PICU) at the time of Angellyn’s hospitalizations. Judy walks us through the medical team’s growing suspicions and their decision to install surveillance cameras in Angellyn’s hospital room. The footage reveals deeply disturbing behavior by Lisa and Carey’s utter compliance, prompting an investigation into the parents. Ultimately, custody of both Mishelle and Angellyn was revoked, and the children were placed with their maternal grandparents.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD</p>
<p>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit</p>
<p>Order Andrea's new book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.</p>
<p>The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.</p>
<p>Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.</p>
<p>This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.</p>
<p>These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.</p>
<p>The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.</p>
<p>Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S06 E01: The Advocate </title>
      <description>This season on Nobody Should Believe Me, we tell the story of Lisa McDaniel, who crafted a public image as the Director of Patient Advocacy at the Guthy Jackson Foundation while concealing her conviction for child abuse more than a decade ago.

We begin with an introduction to the McDaniel family: Lisa, her husband Carey, and their children—Mishelle, Angellyn, and Collin. While the unraveling of their family began when Collin was “diagnosed” with NMO (Neuromyelitis Optica), to understand the full story, we must go back to where it all began: Hazlehurst, Georgia.

Andrea and our producer Myrriah travel with Mishelle–Lisa’s courageous eldest daughter– to her mother’s hometown, where they sit down with Lisa’s younger sister, Sabrina. Sabrina recounts a childhood marked by emotional manipulation and physical abuse at the hands of her older sister. She walks us through Mishelle’s early years, how, as a baby, she was often left with relatives for days at a time, and then through Lisa’s troubled pregnancy with her second child, Angellyn.

Stay tuned through the end of the episode for a preview of what’s to come this season.

***

Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

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Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 

***

This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.

The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.

Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.

This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.

These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.

The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.

Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This season on Nobody Should Believe Me, we tell the story of Lisa McDaniel, who crafted a public image as the Director of Patient Advocacy at the Guthy Jackson Foundation while concealing her conviction for child abuse more than a decade ago.

We begin with an introduction to the McDaniel family: Lisa, her husband Carey, and their children—Mishelle, Angellyn, and Collin. While the unraveling of their family began when Collin was “diagnosed” with NMO (Neuromyelitis Optica), to understand the full story, we must go back to where it all began: Hazlehurst, Georgia.

Andrea and our producer Myrriah travel with Mishelle–Lisa’s courageous eldest daughter– to her mother’s hometown, where they sit down with Lisa’s younger sister, Sabrina. Sabrina recounts a childhood marked by emotional manipulation and physical abuse at the hands of her older sister. She walks us through Mishelle’s early years, how, as a baby, she was often left with relatives for days at a time, and then through Lisa’s troubled pregnancy with her second child, Angellyn.

Stay tuned through the end of the episode for a preview of what’s to come this season.

***

Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 

***

This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.

The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.

Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.

This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.

These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.

The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.

Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This season on <em>Nobody Should Believe Me</em>, we tell the story of Lisa McDaniel, who crafted a public image as the Director of Patient Advocacy at the Guthy Jackson Foundation while concealing her conviction for child abuse more than a decade ago.</p>
<p>We begin with an introduction to the McDaniel family: Lisa, her husband Carey, and their children—Mishelle, Angellyn, and Collin. While the unraveling of their family began when Collin was “diagnosed” with NMO (Neuromyelitis Optica), to understand the full story, we must go back to where it all began: Hazlehurst, Georgia.</p>
<p>Andrea and our producer Myrriah travel with Mishelle–Lisa’s courageous eldest daughter– to her mother’s hometown, where they sit down with Lisa’s younger sister, Sabrina. Sabrina recounts a childhood marked by emotional manipulation and physical abuse at the hands of her older sister. She walks us through Mishelle’s early years, how, as a baby, she was often left with relatives for days at a time, and then through Lisa’s troubled pregnancy with her second child, Angellyn.</p>
<p>Stay tuned through the end of the episode for a preview of what’s to come this season.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Justice for Collin: Contact Birmingham PD https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tEg2mpbrwNJnuVMNdbHANCofEFYvH9_bO5MULHUxqLs/edit</p>
<p>Order Andrea's new book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>This season covers sensitive subject matter involving allegations of child abuse, medical child abuse (also known as Munchausen by proxy), and the death of a minor. All information presented is based on court records, first-person interviews, contemporaneous documentation, and publicly available sources.</p>
<p>The podcast includes personal statements and perspectives from individuals directly involved in or affected by these events. These accounts represent their experiences and interpretations, and some statements reflect opinions that may be emotionally charged. Where appropriate, the reporting team has verified claims through official records or corroborating sources.</p>
<p>Nothing in this podcast should be interpreted as a legal conclusion or diagnosis. All subjects are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. This podcast is intended for informational and public interest purposes.</p>
<p>This podcast contains audio excerpts from two phone conversations recorded in the states of Georgia and Alabama, respectively. Both recordings were obtained by a third-party source, who acted in accordance with the relevant one-party consent laws of those states, which allow for the lawful recording of a conversation with the consent of one participant.</p>
<p>These recordings were subsequently shared with the producers of this podcast after the fact, and were not made by or at the direction of the podcast team or its parent organization.</p>
<p>The podcast producers have made good-faith efforts to confirm the legal compliance of the original recordings, and are presenting these materials in the context of public interest reporting. The inclusion of this audio is intended for journalistic, educational, and documentary purposes in alignment with the principles of fair use and First Amendment protections.</p>
<p>Listeners are advised that the views expressed in the recordings are those of the individuals speaking and do not necessarily reflect the views of the producers or affiliated entities.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Case Files 22: Rady Children’s Part 6</title>
      <description>This week on Nobody Should Believe Me, Andrea and Dr. Bex dive further into the allegations against Dr. Paolo Bolognese, discussing the whistleblower complaint that exposed unnecessary medical treatments as well as sexual harassment accusations. They explore how deceptive marketing and the glamorization of medical authority can lead to real harm—especially for patients with complex or misunderstood conditions.

***

Andrea’s June 28th event with Lisa Jewell: https://townhallseattle.org/event/lisa-jewell/

Andrea’s August 1st event with Gregg Olsen: https://www.libertybaybooks.com/event/west-sound-crime-con-2025-local-authors-gregg-olsen-and-andrea-dunlop

Follow Dr. Bex on instagram: @secretdoctorbex

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2025 16:55:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/040ff1cc-47ae-11f0-b7a3-37ff2c35889c/image/13c5d7bd281700145aed69a7725fc034.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This week on Nobody Should Believe Me, Andrea and Dr. Bex dive further into the allegations against Dr. Paolo Bolognese, discussing the whistleblower complaint that exposed unnecessary medical treatments as well as sexual harassment accusations. They explore how deceptive marketing and the glamorization of medical authority can lead to real harm—especially for patients with complex or misunderstood conditions.

***

Andrea’s June 28th event with Lisa Jewell: https://townhallseattle.org/event/lisa-jewell/

Andrea’s August 1st event with Gregg Olsen: https://www.libertybaybooks.com/event/west-sound-crime-con-2025-local-authors-gregg-olsen-and-andrea-dunlop

Follow Dr. Bex on instagram: @secretdoctorbex

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week on <em>Nobody Should Believe Me</em>, Andrea and Dr. Bex dive further into the allegations against Dr. Paolo Bolognese, discussing the whistleblower complaint that exposed unnecessary medical treatments as well as sexual harassment accusations. They explore how deceptive marketing and the glamorization of medical authority can lead to real harm—especially for patients with complex or misunderstood conditions.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Andrea’s June 28th event with Lisa Jewell: <a href="https://townhallseattle.org/event/lisa-jewell/"><u>https://townhallseattle.org/event/lisa-jewell/</u></a></p>
<p>Andrea’s August 1st event with Gregg Olsen: <a href="https://www.libertybaybooks.com/event/west-sound-crime-con-2025-local-authors-gregg-olsen-and-andrea-dunlop"><u>https://www.libertybaybooks.com/event/west-sound-crime-con-2025-local-authors-gregg-olsen-and-andrea-dunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Follow Dr. Bex on instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/secretdoctorbex/"><u>@secretdoctorbex</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea's new book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <description>Season 6 of Nobody Should Believe Me–out weekly starting June 19, available in full for subscribers at launch– covers the extraordinary and tragic saga of the McDaniel family, a real-life Southern Gothic tale of Munchausen by Proxy that spans decades and has left untold damage in its wake. 

For the past twelve years, Lisa McDaniel worked for The Guthy Jackson Foundation, a high-profile non-profit, dedicated to a rare disease called NMO (Neuromyelitis Optica), from which Lisa claims her son suffered. 

But while Lisa appears to be a sweet Southern mom whose personal tragedy led to her heroic work, this image hides her dark history of abuse. How was Lisa able to keep her felony conviction for poisoning and suffocating her infant daughter hidden? How did her children slip through the cracks of the healthcare and legal systems again and again? What really happened to her son Collin?  

Season Six breaks a story that is years in the making and made possible through the astounding courage of Mishelle Roberts. This season ties together many elements introduced in previous seasons: ways that systems fail vulnerable victims, the culture of silence and inaction within hospitals that enables abuse, and the damage done to rare disease advocacy and victims’ groups which can devastate families and echo through generations.  

***



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To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.



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The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
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      <itunes:summary>Season 6 of Nobody Should Believe Me–out weekly starting June 19, available in full for subscribers at launch– covers the extraordinary and tragic saga of the McDaniel family, a real-life Southern Gothic tale of Munchausen by Proxy that spans decades and has left untold damage in its wake. 

For the past twelve years, Lisa McDaniel worked for The Guthy Jackson Foundation, a high-profile non-profit, dedicated to a rare disease called NMO (Neuromyelitis Optica), from which Lisa claims her son suffered. 

But while Lisa appears to be a sweet Southern mom whose personal tragedy led to her heroic work, this image hides her dark history of abuse. How was Lisa able to keep her felony conviction for poisoning and suffocating her infant daughter hidden? How did her children slip through the cracks of the healthcare and legal systems again and again? What really happened to her son Collin?  

Season Six breaks a story that is years in the making and made possible through the astounding courage of Mishelle Roberts. This season ties together many elements introduced in previous seasons: ways that systems fail vulnerable victims, the culture of silence and inaction within hospitals that enables abuse, and the damage done to rare disease advocacy and victims’ groups which can devastate families and echo through generations.  

***



Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/



View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/



Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/



Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI



To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.



For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com



The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Season 6 of Nobody Should Believe Me–out weekly starting June 19, available in full for subscribers at launch– covers the extraordinary and tragic saga of the McDaniel family, a real-life Southern Gothic tale of Munchausen by Proxy that spans decades and has left untold damage in its wake. </p>
<p>For the past twelve years, Lisa McDaniel worked for The Guthy Jackson Foundation, a high-profile non-profit, dedicated to a rare disease called NMO (Neuromyelitis Optica), from which Lisa claims her son suffered. </p>
<p>But while Lisa appears to be a sweet Southern mom whose personal tragedy led to her heroic work, this image hides her dark history of abuse. How was Lisa able to keep her felony conviction for poisoning and suffocating her infant daughter hidden? How did her children slip through the cracks of the healthcare and legal systems again and again? What really happened to her son Collin?  </p>
<p>Season Six breaks a story that is years in the making and made possible through the astounding courage of Mishelle Roberts. This season ties together many elements introduced in previous seasons: ways that systems fail vulnerable victims, the culture of silence and inaction within hospitals that enables abuse, and the damage done to rare disease advocacy and victims’ groups which can devastate families and echo through generations.  </p>
<p>***</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Order Andrea's new book <em>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy </em><a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"><em>https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/</em></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"><u>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"><u>https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"><u>https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts"><u>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188</u></a>) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com"><u>http://MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"><u>https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf</u></a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Case Files 21: Rady Children’s Part 5</title>
      <description>This week, Andrea and Dr. Bex dive into the controversial Dr. Paolo Bolognese, a neurosurgeon with a significant number of malpractice lawsuits and explore his role in the Rady Children's lawsuit. 

Andrea and Dr. Bex also highlight the complexities of medical malpractice, particularly in neurosurgery, emphasizing the risks associated with experimental procedures and the importance of informed consent. They also explore a darker side of medicine—where financial incentives might be shaping decisions more than patient outcomes and niche specialists become gatekeepers to high-risk surgeries. The conversation culminates in a whistleblower complaint that reveals systemic issues within the field.

***

This podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

***

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
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      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2025 18:57:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>This week, Andrea and Dr. Bex dive into the controversial Dr. Paolo Bolognese, a neurosurgeon with a significant number of malpractice lawsuits and explore his role in the Rady Children's lawsuit. 

Andrea and Dr. Bex also highlight the complexities of medical malpractice, particularly in neurosurgery, emphasizing the risks associated with experimental procedures and the importance of informed consent. They also explore a darker side of medicine—where financial incentives might be shaping decisions more than patient outcomes and niche specialists become gatekeepers to high-risk surgeries. The conversation culminates in a whistleblower complaint that reveals systemic issues within the field.

***

This podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

***

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, Andrea and Dr. Bex dive into the controversial Dr. Paolo Bolognese, a neurosurgeon with a significant number of malpractice lawsuits and explore his role in the Rady Children's lawsuit. </p>
<p>Andrea and Dr. Bex also highlight the complexities of medical malpractice, particularly in neurosurgery, emphasizing the risks associated with experimental procedures and the importance of informed consent. They also explore a darker side of medicine—where financial incentives might be shaping decisions more than patient outcomes and niche specialists become gatekeepers to high-risk surgeries. The conversation culminates in a whistleblower complaint that reveals systemic issues within the field.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>This podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Order Andrea's new book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Case Files 20: Rady Children’s Part 4 with Dr. Mary Sanders</title>
      <description>In the 4th part of our Case Files series on Rady Children’s, Andrea and Dr. Mary Sanders from Stanford University deep dive into the emotional and legal complexities of child abuse cases. They unpack how surveillance in hospital settings—while potentially life-saving—raises big questions around privacy and consent. The conversation also explores the difficult dynamics of teenage victims, how hard these cases are to diagnose, and why the trust between parents and healthcare providers is often the first casualty.

Andrea and Mary also examine how conspiracy theories infiltrate the courtroom and public opinion, warping our understanding of child welfare. From the strain on therapists to the trauma carried by kids in foster care and legal battles, this episode is a raw, thoughtful look at what happens when the system meant to protect children is itself under pressure.

***

This podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

***

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2025 22:40:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In the 4th part of our Case Files series on Rady Children’s, Andrea and Dr. Mary Sanders from Stanford University deep dive into the emotional and legal complexities of child abuse cases. They unpack how surveillance in hospital settings—while potentially life-saving—raises big questions around privacy and consent. The conversation also explores the difficult dynamics of teenage victims, how hard these cases are to diagnose, and why the trust between parents and healthcare providers is often the first casualty.

Andrea and Mary also examine how conspiracy theories infiltrate the courtroom and public opinion, warping our understanding of child welfare. From the strain on therapists to the trauma carried by kids in foster care and legal battles, this episode is a raw, thoughtful look at what happens when the system meant to protect children is itself under pressure.

***

This podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

***

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the 4th part of our Case Files series on Rady Children’s, Andrea and Dr. Mary Sanders from Stanford University deep dive into the emotional and legal complexities of child abuse cases. They unpack how surveillance in hospital settings—while potentially life-saving—raises big questions around privacy and consent. The conversation also explores the difficult dynamics of teenage victims, how hard these cases are to diagnose, and why the trust between parents and healthcare providers is often the first casualty.</p>
<p>Andrea and Mary also examine how conspiracy theories infiltrate the courtroom and public opinion, warping our understanding of child welfare. From the strain on therapists to the trauma carried by kids in foster care and legal battles, this episode is a raw, thoughtful look at what happens when the system meant to protect children is itself under pressure.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>This podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Order Andrea's new book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Case Files 19: Rady Children's Part 3</title>
      <description>We left off in the previous episode with Madison Meyer being returned to her parents after more than a year in state custody—yet still hospitalized at Rady Children’s Hospital in San Diego. Today, Andrea and Bex unpack the complaint filed by her parents in 2021 and Madison’s own 2024 lawsuit. 

*please note that this episode contains mentions of suicide and sexual assault of a minor. 

For resources please go to: 

RAINN https://rainn.org/

International Association for Suicide Prevention: https://www.iasp.info

***

This podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

***

Follow Dr. Bex on instagram: @secretdoctorbex

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2025 20:11:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/d313f582-31c8-11f0-a47f-d37b0a58057c/image/13c5d7bd281700145aed69a7725fc034.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We left off in the previous episode with Madison Meyer being returned to her parents after more than a year in state custody—yet still hospitalized at Rady Children’s Hospital in San Diego. Today, Andrea and Bex unpack the complaint filed by her parents in 2021 and Madison’s own 2024 lawsuit. 

*please note that this episode contains mentions of suicide and sexual assault of a minor. 

For resources please go to: 

RAINN https://rainn.org/

International Association for Suicide Prevention: https://www.iasp.info

***

This podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

***

Follow Dr. Bex on instagram: @secretdoctorbex

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        <![CDATA[<p>We left off in the previous episode with Madison Meyer being returned to her parents after more than a year in state custody—yet still hospitalized at Rady Children’s Hospital in San Diego. Today, Andrea and Bex unpack the complaint filed by her parents in 2021 and Madison’s own 2024 lawsuit. </p>
<p>*please note that this episode contains mentions of suicide and sexual assault of a minor. </p>
<p>For resources please go to: </p>
<p>RAINN <a href="https://rainn.org/"><u>https://rainn.org/</u></a></p>
<p>International Association for Suicide Prevention: <a href="https://www.iasp.info/suicidalthoughts/"><u>https://www.iasp.info</u></a></p>
<p>***</p>
<p>This podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Follow Dr. Bex on instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/secretdoctorbex/"><u>@secretdoctorbex</u></a></p>
<p>Order Andrea's new book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
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<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S03 Ep07 RERUN: Trial of the Century</title>
      <description>We're rereleasing an episode from our original coverage of the Kowalski case that was published on 11/7/2023.

***

With a verdict in the case days away, host Andrea Dunlop unpacks some of what’s happened so far in the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens trial with lawyer and trial consultant Jonathan Leach. They analyze the dueling opening statements, consider what each side is likely to look for in jurors, and which of the charges—if any—might be most viable.  

Andrea shares insights on the lawyers after watching their interactions in court. She also weighs in on the extensive medical testimony so far, including a major revelation about the origins of Maya's controversial CRPS diagnosis. We also share a chilling account of Maya’s ketamine coma that was shared in court via missives written by Beata herself.  

As both sides begin their closing arguments Andrea weighs the merits of what each side has told the jury and considers what the ramifications of the imminent verdict might be. 

***

To support the show, subscribe on ⁠Apple Podcast⁠s or go to ⁠Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe⁠ where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial.  

Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: ⁠@andreadunlop⁠ 

Buy Andrea’s ⁠books here⁠. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit ⁠MunchausenSupport.com⁠ 

Download the ⁠APSAC's practice guidelines here⁠. 

*** 

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      <itunes:summary>We're rereleasing an episode from our original coverage of the Kowalski case that was published on 11/7/2023.

***

With a verdict in the case days away, host Andrea Dunlop unpacks some of what’s happened so far in the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens trial with lawyer and trial consultant Jonathan Leach. They analyze the dueling opening statements, consider what each side is likely to look for in jurors, and which of the charges—if any—might be most viable.  

Andrea shares insights on the lawyers after watching their interactions in court. She also weighs in on the extensive medical testimony so far, including a major revelation about the origins of Maya's controversial CRPS diagnosis. We also share a chilling account of Maya’s ketamine coma that was shared in court via missives written by Beata herself.  

As both sides begin their closing arguments Andrea weighs the merits of what each side has told the jury and considers what the ramifications of the imminent verdict might be. 

***

To support the show, subscribe on ⁠Apple Podcast⁠s or go to ⁠Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe⁠ where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial.  

Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: ⁠@andreadunlop⁠ 

Buy Andrea’s ⁠books here⁠. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit ⁠MunchausenSupport.com⁠ 

Download the ⁠APSAC's practice guidelines here⁠. 

*** 

Click ⁠here⁠ to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We're rereleasing an episode from our original coverage of the Kowalski case that was published on 11/7/2023.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>With a verdict in the case days away, host Andrea Dunlop unpacks some of what’s happened so far in the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens trial with lawyer and trial consultant Jonathan Leach. They analyze the dueling opening statements, consider what each side is likely to look for in jurors, and which of the charges—if any—might be most viable.  </p>
<p>Andrea shares insights on the lawyers after watching their interactions in court. She also weighs in on the extensive medical testimony so far, including a major revelation about the origins of Maya's controversial CRPS diagnosis. We also share a chilling account of Maya’s ketamine coma that was shared in court via missives written by Beata herself.  </p>
<p>As both sides begin their closing arguments Andrea weighs the merits of what each side has told the jury and considers what the ramifications of the imminent verdict might be. </p>
<p>***</p>
<p>To support the show, subscribe on <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">⁠Apple Podcast⁠</a>s or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">⁠Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe⁠</a> where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial.  </p>
<p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">⁠@andreadunlop⁠</a> </p>
<p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">⁠books here⁠</a>. </p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com/">⁠MunchausenSupport.com⁠</a> </p>
<p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">⁠APSAC's practice guidelines here⁠</a>. </p>
<p>*** </p>
<p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">⁠here⁠</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Case Files 18: Rady Children’s Part 2</title>
      <description>In part two of our series on the lawsuit against Rady Children’s Hospital in San Diego, Andrea and Dr. Bex continue unpacking the story of Madison Meyer, whose medical journey led to a separation from her parents. After video surveillance at Rady’s starts, a series of escalating concerns, reports to child protective services, and ultimately, a court order removing her from parental custody follows. Andrea and Dr. Bex examine how medical, legal, and child protection teams intersect in cases like this, and the ethics of covert surveillance.



*Episode updated with a fact check*

***

This podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.



***

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      <pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>In part two of our series on the lawsuit against Rady Children’s Hospital in San Diego, Andrea and Dr. Bex continue unpacking the story of Madison Meyer, whose medical journey led to a separation from her parents. After video surveillance at Rady’s starts, a series of escalating concerns, reports to child protective services, and ultimately, a court order removing her from parental custody follows. Andrea and Dr. Bex examine how medical, legal, and child protection teams intersect in cases like this, and the ethics of covert surveillance.



*Episode updated with a fact check*

***

This podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.



***

Follow Dr. Bex on instagram: @secretdoctorbex



Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 



Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  



Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 



Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop



Buy Andrea's books here. 



For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
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        <![CDATA[<p>In part two of our series on the lawsuit against Rady Children’s Hospital in San Diego, Andrea and Dr. Bex continue unpacking the story of Madison Meyer, whose medical journey led to a separation from her parents. After video surveillance at Rady’s starts, a series of escalating concerns, reports to child protective services, and ultimately, a court order removing her from parental custody follows. Andrea and Dr. Bex examine how medical, legal, and child protection teams intersect in cases like this, and the ethics of covert surveillance.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>*Episode updated with a fact check*</p>
<p>***</p>
<p>This podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>***</p>
<p>Follow Dr. Bex on instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/secretdoctorbex/"><u>@secretdoctorbex</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Order Andrea's new book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> <u>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</u></a>. </p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> <u>here</u></a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> <u>YouTube</u></a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> <u>@andreadunlop</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> <u>here</u></a>. </p>
<p><br></p>
<p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> <u>MunchausenSupport.com</u></a></p>
<p><br>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"><u>here</u></a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Case Files 17: Rady Children’s Part 1</title>
      <description>In the first part of our four part Case Files series diving into the upcoming lawsuit against Rady Children’s in San Diego, Andrea and Dr. Bex start with looking into preteen Madison Meyer’s string of diagnoses like Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, POTS, CRPS, and more. They break down what these conditions are and why they - coupled with Madison’s rapid decline - raised red flags. 



***

This podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

***



Follow Dr. Bex on instagram: @secretdoctorbex



Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 



Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  



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***

This podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.

***



Follow Dr. Bex on instagram: @secretdoctorbex



Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 



Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  



Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 



Follow Andrea on Instagram: @andreadunlop



Buy Andrea's books here. 



For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com



The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the first part of our four part Case Files series diving into the upcoming lawsuit against Rady Children’s in San Diego, Andrea and Dr. Bex start with looking into preteen Madison Meyer’s string of diagnoses like Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, POTS, CRPS, and more. They break down what these conditions are and why they - coupled with Madison’s rapid decline - raised red flags. </p>
<p><br></p>
<p>***</p>
<p>This podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.</p>
<p>***</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Follow Dr. Bex on instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/secretdoctorbex/">@</a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/secretdoctorbex/">secretdoctorbex</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Order Andrea's new book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> </a><a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</a>. </p>
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<p><br></p>
<p>Follow Andrea on Instagram:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> </a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> </a><a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>. </p>
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      <title>Case Files 16: Mom and Dad</title>
      <description>In season 5, we shared a bit of Andrea’s conversation with her parents, and we’re releasing even more in this episode of case files. If you’ve been with us from the beginning, you’re familiar with Andrea’s sister's case. Today we hear from Megan and Andrea’s parents as they reflect on their experiences and share their hopes for their grandchildren.  

***

Listen to the NSBM episodes about Megan: 
Season 1 Episode 1
Season 1 Episode 2
Season 2 Episode 7

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      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2025 18:55:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>In season 5, we shared a bit of Andrea’s conversation with her parents, and we’re releasing even more in this episode of case files. If you’ve been with us from the beginning, you’re familiar with Andrea’s sister's case. Today we hear from Megan and Andrea’s parents as they reflect on their experiences and share their hopes for their grandchildren.  

***

Listen to the NSBM episodes about Megan: 
Season 1 Episode 1
Season 1 Episode 2
Season 2 Episode 7

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/

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To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com

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        <![CDATA[<p>In season 5, we shared a bit of Andrea’s conversation with her parents, and we’re releasing even more in this episode of case files. If you’ve been with us from the beginning, you’re familiar with Andrea’s sister's case. Today we hear from Megan and Andrea’s parents as they reflect on their experiences and share their hopes for their grandchildren.  </p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p><br></p><p>Listen to the NSBM episodes about Megan: </p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sisters-introduction/id1615637188?i=1000582501783">Season 1 Episode 1</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/who-is-hope/id1615637188?i=1000582501645">Season 1 Episode 2</a></p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/s02-ep07-megan/id1615637188?i=1000621818389">Season 2 Episode 7</a></p><p><br></p><p>Order Andrea's new book <em>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy </em><a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"><em>https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/</em></a></p><p><br></p><p>View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Buy Andrea's books: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI</a></p><p><br></p><p>To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts</a>) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com">http://MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p><br></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3103</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Case Files 15: Everyday Cults with Rachel Bernstein</title>
      <description>In this week’s episode of Case Files, we’re joined by Rachel Bernstein, a therapist specializing in cults and the host of the podcast IndoctriNation. Andrea and Rachel delve into the crossover between those in the sphere of Munchausen by Proxy perpetrators and cults. Rachel talks about the complexity of cult dynamics, the emotional and psychological impacts on families, and the challenges faced by individuals trying to break free from manipulative environments. Andrea and Rachel touch on navigating relationships with abusive family members and the importance of community, safe spaces, and support.

***

Listen to IndoctriNation: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/indoctrination/id1373939526

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View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/

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Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI

To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf
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      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this week’s episode of Case Files, we’re joined by Rachel Bernstein, a therapist specializing in cults and the host of the podcast IndoctriNation. Andrea and Rachel delve into the crossover between those in the sphere of Munchausen by Proxy perpetrators and cults. Rachel talks about the complexity of cult dynamics, the emotional and psychological impacts on families, and the challenges faced by individuals trying to break free from manipulative environments. Andrea and Rachel touch on navigating relationships with abusive family members and the importance of community, safe spaces, and support.

***

Listen to IndoctriNation: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/indoctrination/id1373939526

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/

View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/

Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI

To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this week’s episode of Case Files, we’re joined by Rachel Bernstein, a therapist specializing in cults and the host of the podcast IndoctriNation. Andrea and Rachel delve into the crossover between those in the sphere of Munchausen by Proxy perpetrators and cults. Rachel talks about the complexity of cult dynamics, the emotional and psychological impacts on families, and the challenges faced by individuals trying to break free from manipulative environments. Andrea and Rachel touch on navigating relationships with abusive family members and the importance of community, safe spaces, and support.</p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p><br></p><p>Listen to IndoctriNation: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/indoctrination/id1373939526">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/indoctrination/id1373939526</a></p><p><br></p><p>Order Andrea's new book <em>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy </em><a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"><em>https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/</em></a></p><p><br></p><p>View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Buy Andrea's books: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI</a></p><p><br></p><p>To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts</a>) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com">http://MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p><br></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3630</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Case Files 14: Susan Smith and the Impact of False Accusations with Celisia Stanton</title>
      <description>In this episode, Andrea is joined by Celisia Stanton, the host and creator of Truer Crime. Andrea and Celisia dive into the Susan Smith case, a story that garnered national attention in the 90s. Through talking about the case, they segue into the complex themes surrounding false accusations, media representation, racial bias, mental health, and the nature of violence. Andrea and Celisia discuss the dichotomy of having empathy for an offender, while also holding them accountable for their actions.

***

Listen to Truer Crime: https://truercrimepodcast.com/

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/

View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/

Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI

To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf

***

Sources:
https://www.hulu.com/series/impact-x-nightline-killer-mom-the-case-of-susan-smith-0b1f5ce7-cb4f-4a2a-a827-84052e5a5415

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/21/us/susan-smith-south-carolina-case-parole/index.htmlhttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp3npzxd1lwo

https://apnews.com/article/susan-smith-parole-south-carolina-3c7c12e0cd0a23eee0e42a599b689597

https://apnews.com/article/susan-smith-parole-south-carolina-ae37185c6d9d056104c839b03bd1cac0

https://www.wyff4.com/article/local-history-arrest-parole-killer-susan-smith/62028246

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-07-28-mn-28940-story.html
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      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Andrea is joined by Celisia Stanton, the host and creator of Truer Crime. Andrea and Celisia dive into the Susan Smith case, a story that garnered national attention in the 90s. Through talking about the case, they segue into the complex themes surrounding false accusations, media representation, racial bias, mental health, and the nature of violence. Andrea and Celisia discuss the dichotomy of having empathy for an offender, while also holding them accountable for their actions.

***

Listen to Truer Crime: https://truercrimepodcast.com/

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/

View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/

Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI

To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf

***

Sources:
https://www.hulu.com/series/impact-x-nightline-killer-mom-the-case-of-susan-smith-0b1f5ce7-cb4f-4a2a-a827-84052e5a5415

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/21/us/susan-smith-south-carolina-case-parole/index.htmlhttps://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp3npzxd1lwo

https://apnews.com/article/susan-smith-parole-south-carolina-3c7c12e0cd0a23eee0e42a599b689597

https://apnews.com/article/susan-smith-parole-south-carolina-ae37185c6d9d056104c839b03bd1cac0

https://www.wyff4.com/article/local-history-arrest-parole-killer-susan-smith/62028246

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-07-28-mn-28940-story.html
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Andrea is joined by Celisia Stanton, the host and creator of Truer Crime. Andrea and Celisia dive into the Susan Smith case, a story that garnered national attention in the 90s. Through talking about the case, they segue into the complex themes surrounding false accusations, media representation, racial bias, mental health, and the nature of violence. Andrea and Celisia discuss the dichotomy of having empathy for an offender, while also holding them accountable for their actions.</p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p><br></p><p>Listen to Truer Crime: <a href="https://truercrimepodcast.com/">https://truercrimepodcast.com/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Order Andrea's new book <em>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy </em><a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"><em>https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/</em></a></p><p><br></p><p>View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Buy Andrea's books: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI</a></p><p><br></p><p>To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts</a>) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com">http://MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p><br></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf</a></p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p><br></p><p>Sources:</p><p><a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/impact-x-nightline-killer-mom-the-case-of-susan-smith-0b1f5ce7-cb4f-4a2a-a827-84052e5a5415">https://www.hulu.com/series/impact-x-nightline-killer-mom-the-case-of-susan-smith-0b1f5ce7-cb4f-4a2a-a827-84052e5a5415</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/21/us/susan-smith-south-carolina-case-parole/index.html">https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/21/us/susan-smith-south-carolina-case-parole/index.html</a><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp3npzxd1lwo">https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp3npzxd1lwo</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://apnews.com/article/susan-smith-parole-south-carolina-3c7c12e0cd0a23eee0e42a599b689597">https://apnews.com/article/susan-smith-parole-south-carolina-3c7c12e0cd0a23eee0e42a599b689597</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://apnews.com/article/susan-smith-parole-south-carolina-ae37185c6d9d056104c839b03bd1cac0">https://apnews.com/article/susan-smith-parole-south-carolina-ae37185c6d9d056104c839b03bd1cac0</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.wyff4.com/article/local-history-arrest-parole-killer-susan-smith/62028246">https://www.wyff4.com/article/local-history-arrest-parole-killer-susan-smith/62028246</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-07-28-mn-28940-story.html">https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1995-07-28-mn-28940-story.html</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>4312</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Case Files 13: The Andreas of Ethical True Crime with Andrea Gunning</title>
      <description>This week, our Andrea is joined by Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal and There and Gone: South Street. Gunning speaks on her transition from television to podcasting. They both discuss the ethical consideration of the real-world consequences of sharing true crime stories, as well as the emotional weight of telling these stories with care. Gunning and Dunlop reflect on the healing power of storytelling and the importance of humanizing these narratives. They also touch on the challenges faced by women in the podcasting industry. 

***
Listen to Betrayal: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-betrayal-weekly-95632727/

Listen to There and Gone: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-there-and-gone-south-stre-185036762/

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/

View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/

Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI

To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2025 20:38:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7ff3db18-0b4b-11f0-95be-5b430b89d735/image/de198ad4311fa146fac01e8926b9b1bf.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This week, our Andrea is joined by Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal and There and Gone: South Street. Gunning speaks on her transition from television to podcasting. They both discuss the ethical consideration of the real-world consequences of sharing true crime stories, as well as the emotional weight of telling these stories with care. Gunning and Dunlop reflect on the healing power of storytelling and the importance of humanizing these narratives. They also touch on the challenges faced by women in the podcasting industry. 

***
Listen to Betrayal: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-betrayal-weekly-95632727/

Listen to There and Gone: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-there-and-gone-south-stre-185036762/

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/

View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/

Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI

To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, our Andrea is joined by Andrea Gunning, host of the podcast Betrayal and There and Gone: South Street. Gunning speaks on her transition from television to podcasting. They both discuss the ethical consideration of the real-world consequences of sharing true crime stories, as well as the emotional weight of telling these stories with care. Gunning and Dunlop reflect on the healing power of storytelling and the importance of humanizing these narratives. They also touch on the challenges faced by women in the podcasting industry. </p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p>Listen to Betrayal: <a href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-betrayal-weekly-95632727/">https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-betrayal-weekly-95632727/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Listen to There and Gone: <a href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-there-and-gone-south-stre-185036762/">https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-there-and-gone-south-stre-185036762/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Order Andrea's new book <em>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/</em></p><p><br></p><p>View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/</p><p><br></p><p>Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI</p><p><br></p><p>To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts</a>) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com</p><p><br></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Case Files 12: Talking Shop with Brittani Ard</title>
      <description>We have a very special bonus episode for you all! Andrea is joined by Brittani Ard, the host and creator of the breakout show, You Probably Think This Story’s About You. Listeners get to hear how Andrea and Britt evolved their shows from what started off as limited series into what they are today. They touch on why they both decided to independently produce their shows, the art of storytelling, the business of podcasting, and how they deal with putting such personal details of their lives out into the world. Brittani talks about how You Probably Think This Story’s About You soared to the top of the charts in its first season and Andrea explains what brought her to founding her network, True Story Media.

***
Listen to Brittani’s show You Probably Think This Story’s About You: https://brittaniard.com/podcast

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/

View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/

Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI

To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2025 16:43:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>We have a very special bonus episode for you all! Andrea is joined by Brittani Ard, the host and creator of the breakout show, You Probably Think This Story’s About You. Listeners get to hear how Andrea and Britt evolved their shows from what started off as limited series into what they are today. They touch on why they both decided to independently produce their shows, the art of storytelling, the business of podcasting, and how they deal with putting such personal details of their lives out into the world. Brittani talks about how You Probably Think This Story’s About You soared to the top of the charts in its first season and Andrea explains what brought her to founding her network, True Story Media.

***
Listen to Brittani’s show You Probably Think This Story’s About You: https://brittaniard.com/podcast

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/

View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/

Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI

To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We have a very special bonus episode for you all! Andrea is joined by Brittani Ard, the host and creator of the breakout show, You Probably Think This Story’s About You. Listeners get to hear how Andrea and Britt evolved their shows from what started off as limited series into what they are today. They touch on why they both decided to independently produce their shows, the art of storytelling, the business of podcasting, and how they deal with putting such personal details of their lives out into the world. Brittani talks about how You Probably Think This Story’s About You soared to the top of the charts in its first season and Andrea explains what brought her to founding her network, True Story Media.</p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p>Listen to Brittani’s show You Probably Think This Story’s About You: https://brittaniard.com/podcast</p><p><br></p><p>Order Andrea's new book <em>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/</em></p><p><br></p><p>View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/</p><p><br></p><p>Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI</p><p><br></p><p>To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts</a>) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com</p><p><br></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Answering Your Season 5 Questions</title>
      <description>Welcome to our Season 5 Mailbag Episode! This time we’re joined by more of our fabulous Nobody Should Believe Me team: head producer Myrriah Gossett, lead researcher Erin Ajayi, story editor Nichole Hill, and producer Greta Stromquist.

The team addresses questions about our coverage of Sophie’s faith, the role that race played in this season, behind-the-scenes of our touching interview with Chalice Howard, and the value of listener feedback. 

***
Support Myrriah’s other projects! https://www.myrriahgossett.com/

Listen to Nichole’s podcast, Our Ancestors Were Messy: https://thesecretadventuresofblackpeople.com/our-ancestors-were-messy

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/

View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/

Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI

To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Welcome to our Season 5 Mailbag Episode! This time we’re joined by more of our fabulous Nobody Should Believe Me team: head producer Myrriah Gossett, lead researcher Erin Ajayi, story editor Nichole Hill, and producer Greta Stromquist.

The team addresses questions about our coverage of Sophie’s faith, the role that race played in this season, behind-the-scenes of our touching interview with Chalice Howard, and the value of listener feedback. 

***
Support Myrriah’s other projects! https://www.myrriahgossett.com/

Listen to Nichole’s podcast, Our Ancestors Were Messy: https://thesecretadventuresofblackpeople.com/our-ancestors-were-messy

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/

View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/

Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI

To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Welcome to our Season 5 Mailbag Episode! This time we’re joined by more of our fabulous Nobody Should Believe Me team: head producer Myrriah Gossett, lead researcher Erin Ajayi, story editor Nichole Hill, and producer Greta Stromquist.</p><p><br></p><p>The team addresses questions about our coverage of Sophie’s faith, the role that race played in this season, behind-the-scenes of our touching interview with Chalice Howard, and the value of listener feedback. </p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p>Support Myrriah’s other projects! <a href="https://www.myrriahgossett.com/">https://www.myrriahgossett.com/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Listen to Nichole’s podcast, Our Ancestors Were Messy: <a href="https://thesecretadventuresofblackpeople.com/our-ancestors-were-messy">https://thesecretadventuresofblackpeople.com/our-ancestors-were-messy</a></p><p><br></p><p>Order Andrea's new book <em>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/</em></p><p><br></p><p>View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/</p><p><br></p><p>Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI</p><p><br></p><p>To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts</a>) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com</p><p><br></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Case Files 11: New Media Journalism and Death Eaters with V Spehar</title>
      <description>We have a very fun guest on NSBM Case Files this week: V Spehar aka Under the Desk News! In this engaging conversation, V and Andrea discuss the whirlwind that has been the beginning of 2025, the importance of ethical responsibility in media and journalism, and working through the gut-punch of grief. They discuss how their careers pivoted in unexpected, but amazing ways and how their personal experiences inform the way they move through their respective spaces. V shares their strategy for dealing with the current onslaught of news and highlights the importance of community.

***
Follow V on all the things: https://linktr.ee/vspehar

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/

View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/

Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI

To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2025 23:20:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>We have a very fun guest on NSBM Case Files this week: V Spehar aka Under the Desk News! In this engaging conversation, V and Andrea discuss the whirlwind that has been the beginning of 2025, the importance of ethical responsibility in media and journalism, and working through the gut-punch of grief. They discuss how their careers pivoted in unexpected, but amazing ways and how their personal experiences inform the way they move through their respective spaces. V shares their strategy for dealing with the current onslaught of news and highlights the importance of community.

***
Follow V on all the things: https://linktr.ee/vspehar

Order Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/

View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/

Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI

To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We have a very fun guest on NSBM Case Files this week: V Spehar aka Under the Desk News! In this engaging conversation, V and Andrea discuss the whirlwind that has been the beginning of 2025, the importance of ethical responsibility in media and journalism, and working through the gut-punch of grief. They discuss how their careers pivoted in unexpected, but amazing ways and how their personal experiences inform the way they move through their respective spaces. V shares their strategy for dealing with the current onslaught of news and highlights the importance of community.</p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p>Follow V on all the things: <a href="https://linktr.ee/vspehar">https://linktr.ee/vspehar</a></p><p><br></p><p>Order Andrea's new book <em>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/</em></p><p><br></p><p>View our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/</p><p><br></p><p>Buy Andrea's books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI</p><p><br></p><p>To support the show, go to http://Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts (<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts</a>) where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit http://MunchausenSupport.com</p><p><br></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here: <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Season 5 Breakdown with Detective Mike Weber</title>
      <description>To officially wrap up season 5, we’ve brought in our friend, Detective Mike Weber, to discuss his thoughts on the police investigation into Sophie Hartman. He walks listeners through the extensive police reports and analyzes the evidence collected, including Sophie’s journal entries. Andrea and Detective Mike discuss the complexities surrounding child abuse cases, particularly the influence of family court decisions and the challenges faced in prosecuting these cases.

***
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      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2025 21:05:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>To officially wrap up season 5, we’ve brought in our friend, Detective Mike Weber, to discuss his thoughts on the police investigation into Sophie Hartman. He walks listeners through the extensive police reports and analyzes the evidence collected, including Sophie’s journal entries. Andrea and Detective Mike discuss the complexities surrounding child abuse cases, particularly the influence of family court decisions and the challenges faced in prosecuting these cases.

***
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For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>To officially wrap up season 5, we’ve brought in our friend, Detective Mike Weber, to discuss his thoughts on the police investigation into Sophie Hartman. He walks listeners through the extensive police reports and analyzes the evidence collected, including Sophie’s journal entries. Andrea and Detective Mike discuss the complexities surrounding child abuse cases, particularly the influence of family court decisions and the challenges faced in prosecuting these cases.</p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p>Links and Resources:</p><p><br></p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p><br></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p><br></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2992</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S05 E09: Out of the Shadows</title>
      <description>Episode 8 was originally our season finale, but a source we’d been speaking to for months bravely decided to go on the record. This is Andrea’s conversation with Chalice Howard, Sophie’s friend of nearly 10 years. 

With many similarities, being white single moms of adoptive black daughters and a shared faith, Chalice and Sophie found a kinship with each other despite living on opposite sides of the country. Chalice shares about her relationship with Sophie and the girls, the journey to learning about and accepting what Sophie’s been doing to C, and why she decided to contact Andrea. She describes how things came to a head with Sophie and gives a touching message to C and M.

***
Please remember that this conversation is from Chalice’s perspective and experience, so we are not able to fact check certain dates/times, nor her conversation with Sam. We have invited  Sophie and other members of the Hartman family onto the podcast to tell their  side of the story, but at the time of publishing have not received a response.. As always, the door remains open if Sophie or other members of the Hartman family would like to tell their version of events.

***
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      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Feb 2025 06:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Episode 8 was originally our season finale, but a source we’d been speaking to for months bravely decided to go on the record. This is Andrea’s conversation with Chalice Howard, Sophie’s friend of nearly 10 years. 

With many similarities, being white single moms of adoptive black daughters and a shared faith, Chalice and Sophie found a kinship with each other despite living on opposite sides of the country. Chalice shares about her relationship with Sophie and the girls, the journey to learning about and accepting what Sophie’s been doing to C, and why she decided to contact Andrea. She describes how things came to a head with Sophie and gives a touching message to C and M.

***
Please remember that this conversation is from Chalice’s perspective and experience, so we are not able to fact check certain dates/times, nor her conversation with Sam. We have invited  Sophie and other members of the Hartman family onto the podcast to tell their  side of the story, but at the time of publishing have not received a response.. As always, the door remains open if Sophie or other members of the Hartman family would like to tell their version of events.

***
Links and Resources:

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Episode 8 was originally our season finale, but a source we’d been speaking to for months bravely decided to go on the record. This is Andrea’s conversation with Chalice Howard, Sophie’s friend of nearly 10 years. </p><p><br></p><p>With many similarities, being white single moms of adoptive black daughters and a shared faith, Chalice and Sophie found a kinship with each other despite living on opposite sides of the country. Chalice shares about her relationship with Sophie and the girls, the journey to learning about and accepting what Sophie’s been doing to C, and why she decided to contact Andrea. She describes how things came to a head with Sophie and gives a touching message to C and M.</p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p>Please remember that this conversation is from Chalice’s perspective and experience, so we are not able to fact check certain dates/times, nor her conversation with Sam. We have invited  Sophie and other members of the Hartman family onto the podcast to tell their  side of the story, but at the time of publishing have not received a response.. As always, the door remains open if Sophie or other members of the Hartman family would like to tell their version of events.</p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p>Links and Resources:</p><p><br></p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p><br></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p><br></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>6391</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S05 Ep08: They Saw You</title>
      <description>In our season finale, we see Sophie Hartman follow in the footsteps of the Kowalski family, Andrea’s sister Megan Carter and others, as she files a lawsuit against Seattle Children’s and the others who investigated her for Medical Child Abuse. Journalist Olivia LaVoice shares her thoughts about how this has all played out. 

We hear Sophie rebranding herself as a ‘falsely accused’ mother in a visit to her home congregation in Kalamazoo and examine the crossover between evangelical Christianity,  the parents' rights movement, and medical child abuse cases. 

We reveal what we know about where Sophie and the girls are today. 

***
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Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

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Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Feb 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In our season finale, we see Sophie Hartman follow in the footsteps of the Kowalski family, Andrea’s sister Megan Carer and others, as she files a lawsuit against Seattle Children’s and the others who investigated her for Medial Child Abuse.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In our season finale, we see Sophie Hartman follow in the footsteps of the Kowalski family, Andrea’s sister Megan Carter and others, as she files a lawsuit against Seattle Children’s and the others who investigated her for Medical Child Abuse. Journalist Olivia LaVoice shares her thoughts about how this has all played out. 

We hear Sophie rebranding herself as a ‘falsely accused’ mother in a visit to her home congregation in Kalamazoo and examine the crossover between evangelical Christianity,  the parents' rights movement, and medical child abuse cases. 

We reveal what we know about where Sophie and the girls are today. 

***
Links and Resources:

Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/

Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: https://brittaniard.com/podcast

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In our season finale, we see Sophie Hartman follow in the footsteps of the Kowalski family, Andrea’s sister Megan Carter and others, as she files a lawsuit against Seattle Children’s and the others who investigated her for Medical Child Abuse. Journalist Olivia LaVoice shares her thoughts about how this has all played out. </p><p><br></p><p>We hear Sophie rebranding herself as a ‘falsely accused’ mother in a visit to her home congregation in Kalamazoo and examine the crossover between evangelical Christianity,  the parents' rights movement, and medical child abuse cases. </p><p><br></p><p>We reveal what we know about where Sophie and the girls are today. </p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p>Links and Resources:</p><p><br></p><p>Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/</p><p><br></p><p>Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: <a href="https://brittaniard.com/podcast">https://brittaniard.com/podcast</a></p><p><br></p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p><br></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p><br></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2545</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S05 Ep07: Who is This Bad Soul?</title>
      <description>We examine perhaps the most important piece of the complex puzzle of the Hartman case: what Sophie wrote about it in her journals. 

We’re joined by Dr. James Hamilton, an MBP expert with a PhD in clinical psychology, to walk us through some of Sophie’s most chilling journal entries collected in the case files. We also look at Sophie’s disturbing internet search history during the time of C’s alleged Central precocious puberty (CPP) diagnosis. 

After being separated from Sophie, M and C are placed with Sophie’s mom and sister. Detective Lee discusses the problems that arise when placing children with people that are most likely going to side with the perpetrator. In April of 2022, C and M are returned to Sophie and criminal charges are subsequently dropped. Andrea offers a key insight into how this might have happened by revealing a surprising member of Sophie’s legal team: her sister, Megan Carter. 

***
Links and Resources:

Dr. James Hamilton: https://www.munchausensupport.com/who-we-are/

Check out Olivia LaVoice’s podcast, The Bakersfield Three: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/867-the-bakersfield-three-128074552/

Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/

Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: https://brittaniard.com/podcast

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Feb 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/91e89a82-c8d6-11ef-b535-47706ce5c3ab/image/1c1929c718b118580de8af6cf3c9e495.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We examine perhaps the most important piece of the complex puzzle of the Hartman case: what Sophie wrote about it in her journals. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We examine perhaps the most important piece of the complex puzzle of the Hartman case: what Sophie wrote about it in her journals. 

We’re joined by Dr. James Hamilton, an MBP expert with a PhD in clinical psychology, to walk us through some of Sophie’s most chilling journal entries collected in the case files. We also look at Sophie’s disturbing internet search history during the time of C’s alleged Central precocious puberty (CPP) diagnosis. 

After being separated from Sophie, M and C are placed with Sophie’s mom and sister. Detective Lee discusses the problems that arise when placing children with people that are most likely going to side with the perpetrator. In April of 2022, C and M are returned to Sophie and criminal charges are subsequently dropped. Andrea offers a key insight into how this might have happened by revealing a surprising member of Sophie’s legal team: her sister, Megan Carter. 

***
Links and Resources:

Dr. James Hamilton: https://www.munchausensupport.com/who-we-are/

Check out Olivia LaVoice’s podcast, The Bakersfield Three: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/867-the-bakersfield-three-128074552/

Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/

Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: https://brittaniard.com/podcast

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

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        <![CDATA[<p>We examine perhaps the most important piece of the complex puzzle of the Hartman case: what Sophie wrote about it in her journals. </p><p><br></p><p>We’re joined by Dr. James Hamilton, an MBP expert with a PhD in clinical psychology, to walk us through some of Sophie’s most chilling journal entries collected in the case files. We also look at Sophie’s disturbing internet search history during the time of C’s alleged Central precocious puberty (CPP) diagnosis. </p><p><br></p><p>After being separated from Sophie, M and C are placed with Sophie’s mom and sister. Detective Lee discusses the problems that arise when placing children with people that are most likely going to side with the perpetrator. In April of 2022, C and M are returned to Sophie and criminal charges are subsequently dropped. Andrea offers a key insight into how this might have happened by revealing a surprising member of Sophie’s legal team: her sister, Megan Carter. </p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p>Links and Resources:</p><p><br></p><p>Dr. James Hamilton: <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/who-we-are/">https://www.munchausensupport.com/who-we-are/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Check out Olivia LaVoice’s podcast, The Bakersfield Three: <a href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast/867-the-bakersfield-three-128074552/">https://www.iheart.com/podcast/867-the-bakersfield-three-128074552/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/</p><p><br></p><p>Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: <a href="https://brittaniard.com/podcast">https://brittaniard.com/podcast</a></p><p><br></p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p><br></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p><br></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <description>Sophie insists to police and others that the real problem isn’t that she’s abusing her daughter but that Seattle Children’s–a world class pediatric hospital–simply doesn’t understand her daughter’s rare condition: Alternating Hemiplegia of Childhood.   
But according to police interviews, very few people in C’s orbit ever witnessed an episode, and if they did, they described symptoms that, alone, are not indicative of AHC. We also hear snippets of interviews stating that Sophie often presented AHC as a terminal illness, a claim that Dr. Zupanc refutes. 

Dr. Jill Glick, a child abuse pediatrician from the University of Chicago, returns to talk us through the process hospitals go through when evaluating medical child abuse cases. We also go through a few of the many inconsistencies in Sophie’s reports to C’s various doctors. Sophie claims that C could die at any moment from AHC: but does she even have it? 

***
Links and Resources:

Watch Human Timebombs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qbjprd9v9Y

More about Dr. Mary Zupanc: https://www.childneurologysociety.org/awards/mary-l-zupanc-md/

More about Dr. Jill Glick: https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/find-a-physician/physician/jill-c-glick

Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/

Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: https://brittaniard.com/podcast

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
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      <itunes:summary>Sophie insists to police and others that the real problem isn’t that she’s abusing her daughter but that Seattle Children’s–a world class pediatric hospital–simply doesn’t understand her daughter’s rare condition: Alternating Hemiplegia of Childhood.   
But according to police interviews, very few people in C’s orbit ever witnessed an episode, and if they did, they described symptoms that, alone, are not indicative of AHC. We also hear snippets of interviews stating that Sophie often presented AHC as a terminal illness, a claim that Dr. Zupanc refutes. 

Dr. Jill Glick, a child abuse pediatrician from the University of Chicago, returns to talk us through the process hospitals go through when evaluating medical child abuse cases. We also go through a few of the many inconsistencies in Sophie’s reports to C’s various doctors. Sophie claims that C could die at any moment from AHC: but does she even have it? 

***
Links and Resources:

Watch Human Timebombs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qbjprd9v9Y

More about Dr. Mary Zupanc: https://www.childneurologysociety.org/awards/mary-l-zupanc-md/

More about Dr. Jill Glick: https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/find-a-physician/physician/jill-c-glick

Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/

Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: https://brittaniard.com/podcast

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sophie insists to police and others that the real problem isn’t that she’s abusing her daughter but that Seattle Children’s–a world class pediatric hospital–simply doesn’t understand her daughter’s rare condition: Alternating Hemiplegia of Childhood.   </p><p>But according to police interviews, very few people in C’s orbit ever witnessed an episode, and if they did, they described symptoms that, alone, are not indicative of AHC. We also hear snippets of interviews stating that Sophie often presented AHC as a terminal illness, a claim that Dr. Zupanc refutes. </p><p><br></p><p>Dr. Jill Glick, a child abuse pediatrician from the University of Chicago, returns to talk us through the process hospitals go through when evaluating medical child abuse cases. We also go through a few of the many inconsistencies in Sophie’s reports to C’s various doctors. Sophie claims that C could die at any moment from AHC: but does she even have it? </p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p>Links and Resources:</p><p><br></p><p>Watch Human Timebombs: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qbjprd9v9Y">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qbjprd9v9Y</a></p><p><br></p><p>More about Dr. Mary Zupanc: <a href="https://www.childneurologysociety.org/awards/mary-l-zupanc-md/">https://www.childneurologysociety.org/awards/mary-l-zupanc-md/</a></p><p><br></p><p>More about Dr. Jill Glick: <a href="https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/find-a-physician/physician/jill-c-glick">https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/find-a-physician/physician/jill-c-glick</a></p><p><br></p><p>Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/</p><p><br></p><p>Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: <a href="https://brittaniard.com/podcast">https://brittaniard.com/podcast</a></p><p><br></p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p><br></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p><br></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <description>It's pub day!! The Mother Next Door is officially out in the world. Thank you to everyone for all of your support! For our amazing podcast listeners, we have a very special treat for you: a 40 MINUTE exclusive excerpt of the audiobook! Enjoy!

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Order The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/

Catch Andrea and Mike at their Seattle Book Launch Event: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029

Catch Andrea and Mike at their Fort Worth Book Launch Event: https://www.instagram.com/p/DE0ynPhxLOo/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Feb 2025 13:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>It's pub day!! The Mother Next Door is officially out in the world. Thank you to everyone for all of your support! For our amazing podcast listeners, we have a very special treat for you: a 40 MINUTE exclusive excerpt of the audiobook! Enjoy!

***

Order The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/

Catch Andrea and Mike at their Seattle Book Launch Event: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029

Catch Andrea and Mike at their Fort Worth Book Launch Event: https://www.instagram.com/p/DE0ynPhxLOo/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It's pub day!! The Mother Next Door is officially out in the world. Thank you to everyone for all of your support! For our amazing podcast listeners, we have a very special treat for you: a 40 MINUTE exclusive excerpt of the audiobook! Enjoy!</p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p><br></p><p>Order <em>The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy </em><a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"><em>https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/</em></a></p><p><br></p><p>Catch Andrea and Mike at their Seattle Book Launch Event: <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029">https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029</a></p><p><br></p><p>Catch Andrea and Mike at their Fort Worth Book Launch Event: https://www.instagram.com/p/DE0ynPhxLOo/</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S05 Ep05: The Breaking Point</title>
      <description>In 2020, the Hartmans grow even more isolated as Covid hits: Sophie pulls C out of school citing worsening health and breaks with the church community who’ve been supporting her and her daughters. 
Concerns for abuse grow as Sophie begins to push a new narrative that C has central precocious puberty (CPP), a condition that causes the body to go through puberty prematurely, After making an initial DCF report in 2019 and tracking Sophie’s demands for increasingly invasive procedures: Seattle Children’s Child Abuse Team files an official report to the Department of Children, Youth, and Families. Her daughters are subsequently placed in protective custody and Sophie is charged with assault of a child in the second degree. 

We hear from the Seattle reporter who broke the story, Olivia LaVoice and dig into the extensive documentation from the  investigation with Detective Michael Lee, a major crimes detective in Texas and co-founder of the National Crimes Against Children Investigators Association.. Andrea also talks with Dr. Mary Zupanc, a pediatric neurologist and epilepsy specialist with over 30 years of clinical and research experience with AHC. She gives listeners a better understanding of AHC by describing the history of the disorder, the various symptoms, common environmental triggers, and how clinical diagnoses of AHC are made.

***
Links and Resources:

More about Dr. Mary Zupanc: https://www.childneurologysociety.org/awards/mary-l-zupanc-md/

Check out Olivia LaVoice’s podcast, The Bakersfield Three: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/867-the-bakersfield-three-128074552/

Chad Goller-Sojourner’s Sitting in Circles with Rich White Girls: Memoir of a Bulimic Black Boy will be adding show dates in spring 2025. Click HERE for more information. 

Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy

Catch Andrea and Mike at their Seattle Book Launch Event: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029

Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/

Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: https://brittaniard.com/podcast

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:summary>In 2020, the Hartmans grow even more isolated as Covid hits: Sophie pulls C out of school citing worsening health and breaks with the church community who’ve been supporting her and her daughters. 
Concerns for abuse grow as Sophie begins to push a new narrative that C has central precocious puberty (CPP), a condition that causes the body to go through puberty prematurely, After making an initial DCF report in 2019 and tracking Sophie’s demands for increasingly invasive procedures: Seattle Children’s Child Abuse Team files an official report to the Department of Children, Youth, and Families. Her daughters are subsequently placed in protective custody and Sophie is charged with assault of a child in the second degree. 

We hear from the Seattle reporter who broke the story, Olivia LaVoice and dig into the extensive documentation from the  investigation with Detective Michael Lee, a major crimes detective in Texas and co-founder of the National Crimes Against Children Investigators Association.. Andrea also talks with Dr. Mary Zupanc, a pediatric neurologist and epilepsy specialist with over 30 years of clinical and research experience with AHC. She gives listeners a better understanding of AHC by describing the history of the disorder, the various symptoms, common environmental triggers, and how clinical diagnoses of AHC are made.

***
Links and Resources:

More about Dr. Mary Zupanc: https://www.childneurologysociety.org/awards/mary-l-zupanc-md/

Check out Olivia LaVoice’s podcast, The Bakersfield Three: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/867-the-bakersfield-three-128074552/

Chad Goller-Sojourner’s Sitting in Circles with Rich White Girls: Memoir of a Bulimic Black Boy will be adding show dates in spring 2025. Click HERE for more information. 

Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy

Catch Andrea and Mike at their Seattle Book Launch Event: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029

Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/

Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: https://brittaniard.com/podcast

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
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        <![CDATA[<p>In 2020, the Hartmans grow even more isolated as Covid hits: Sophie pulls C out of school citing worsening health and breaks with the church community who’ve been supporting her and her daughters. </p><p>Concerns for abuse grow as Sophie begins to push a new narrative that C has central precocious puberty (CPP), a condition that causes the body to go through puberty prematurely, After making an initial DCF report in 2019 and tracking Sophie’s demands for increasingly invasive procedures: Seattle Children’s Child Abuse Team files an official report to the Department of Children, Youth, and Families. Her daughters are subsequently placed in protective custody and Sophie is charged with assault of a child in the second degree. </p><p><br></p><p>We hear from the Seattle reporter who broke the story, Olivia LaVoice and dig into the extensive documentation from the  investigation with Detective Michael Lee, a major crimes detective in Texas and co-founder of the National Crimes Against Children Investigators Association.. Andrea also talks with Dr. Mary Zupanc, a pediatric neurologist and epilepsy specialist with over 30 years of clinical and research experience with AHC. She gives listeners a better understanding of AHC by describing the history of the disorder, the various symptoms, common environmental triggers, and how clinical diagnoses of AHC are made.</p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p>Links and Resources:</p><p><br></p><p>More about Dr. Mary Zupanc: <a href="https://www.childneurologysociety.org/awards/mary-l-zupanc-md/">https://www.childneurologysociety.org/awards/mary-l-zupanc-md/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Check out Olivia LaVoice’s podcast, The Bakersfield Three: <a href="https://www.iheart.com/podcast/867-the-bakersfield-three-128074552/">https://www.iheart.com/podcast/867-the-bakersfield-three-128074552/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Chad Goller-Sojourner’s <em>Sitting in Circles with Rich White Girls: Memoir of a Bulimic Black Boy</em><strong><em> </em></strong>will be adding show dates in spring 2025. Click <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sTeiJvenxyFP-yNFjAbdiYimwURoRlgK/edit?usp=sharing&amp;ouid=104005990536076480378&amp;rtpof=true&amp;sd=true">HERE</a> for more information. </p><p><br></p><p>Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</a></p><p><br></p><p>Catch Andrea and Mike at their Seattle Book Launch Event: <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029">https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029</a></p><p><br></p><p>Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/</p><p><br></p><p>Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: <a href="https://brittaniard.com/podcast">https://brittaniard.com/podcast</a></p><p><br></p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p><br></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p><br></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S05 Ep04: When the Cameras are On</title>
      <description>From corporate sponsorships to fundraisers large and small, Sophie Hartman was an expert at raising money for C’s various medical devices, mobility aids, and specialized treatments.
But were any of these things actually needed? 
We hear audio from the police interviews of Sophie’s next door neighbors and a school aide who note that they rarely saw C in her wheelchair. 

We also take a closer look at C’s diagnoses with friend-of -the-show (our not-so-secret Florida doctor) Dr. Bex, joins us briefly to explain the process that pediatricians go through to provide a clinical diagnosis to their patients. 

We take a closer look at the narrative Sophie weaves on Instagram, documenting her daughter C’s medical journey on both her personal account and where she posts relentlessly about C’s health and includes pictures of her G-Tube and Cecostomy Tube. We listen to reports from both Sophie’s mother and father stating that C had no trouble eating by mouth, and we’re joined by Dr. Jill Glick, a Child Abuse Pediatrician from the University of Chicago, who explains why a child who can eat normally but still has a G-Tube, as requested by a parent, is incredibly troubling.

***
Links and Resources:

More about Dr. Jill Glick: https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/find-a-physician/physician/jill-c-glick

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      <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:subtitle>From corporate sponsorships to fundraisers large and small, Sophie Hartman was an expert at raising money for C’s various medical devices, mobility aids, and specialized treatments.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>From corporate sponsorships to fundraisers large and small, Sophie Hartman was an expert at raising money for C’s various medical devices, mobility aids, and specialized treatments.
But were any of these things actually needed? 
We hear audio from the police interviews of Sophie’s next door neighbors and a school aide who note that they rarely saw C in her wheelchair. 

We also take a closer look at C’s diagnoses with friend-of -the-show (our not-so-secret Florida doctor) Dr. Bex, joins us briefly to explain the process that pediatricians go through to provide a clinical diagnosis to their patients. 

We take a closer look at the narrative Sophie weaves on Instagram, documenting her daughter C’s medical journey on both her personal account and where she posts relentlessly about C’s health and includes pictures of her G-Tube and Cecostomy Tube. We listen to reports from both Sophie’s mother and father stating that C had no trouble eating by mouth, and we’re joined by Dr. Jill Glick, a Child Abuse Pediatrician from the University of Chicago, who explains why a child who can eat normally but still has a G-Tube, as requested by a parent, is incredibly troubling.

***
Links and Resources:

More about Dr. Jill Glick: https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/find-a-physician/physician/jill-c-glick

Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy

Catch Andrea and Mike at their Seattle Book Launch Event: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029

Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/

Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: https://brittaniard.com/podcast

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>From corporate sponsorships to fundraisers large and small, Sophie Hartman was an expert at raising money for C’s various medical devices, mobility aids, and specialized treatments.</p><p>But were any of these things actually needed? </p><p>We hear audio from the police interviews of Sophie’s next door neighbors and a school aide who note that they rarely saw C in her wheelchair. </p><p><br></p><p>We also take a closer look at C’s diagnoses with friend-of -the-show (our not-so-secret Florida doctor) Dr. Bex, joins us briefly to explain the process that pediatricians go through to provide a clinical diagnosis to their patients. </p><p><br></p><p>We take a closer look at the narrative Sophie weaves on Instagram, documenting her daughter C’s medical journey on both her personal account and where she posts relentlessly about C’s health and includes pictures of her G-Tube and Cecostomy Tube. We listen to reports from both Sophie’s mother and father stating that C had no trouble eating by mouth, and we’re joined by Dr. Jill Glick, a Child Abuse Pediatrician from the University of Chicago, who explains why a child who can eat normally but still has a G-Tube, as requested by a parent, is incredibly troubling.</p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p>Links and Resources:</p><p><br></p><p>More about Dr. Jill Glick: <a href="https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/find-a-physician/physician/jill-c-glick">https://www.uchicagomedicine.org/find-a-physician/physician/jill-c-glick</a></p><p><br></p><p>Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</a></p><p><br></p><p>Catch Andrea and Mike at their Seattle Book Launch Event: <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029">https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029</a></p><p><br></p><p>Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/</p><p><br></p><p>Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: <a href="https://brittaniard.com/podcast">https://brittaniard.com/podcast</a></p><p><br></p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p><br></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p><br></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S05 Ep03: Constant Crisis</title>
      <description>Immediately after moving with C and M from Zambia to Seattle, WA, Sophie starts bringing C to various doctors, reporting severe health issues. Just three days after C’s third birthday, she is diagnosed with Alternating Hemiplegia of Childhood (AHC), a rare, one-in-a-million neurological disorder. 

Simultaneously, Sophie enrolls her older daughter, M, in an elite gymnastics program. We speak to some of the moms who knew Sophie from the gym to get a better picture of Sophie and the two girls. They reveal a picture of a woman who, despite seeming to move from one crisis to the next, is somehow caring for a medically fragile child, nurturing an aspiring Olympian and financing all of this without a job or a partner. 

***
Links and Resources:

Chad Goller-Sojourner’s Sitting in Circles with Rich White Girls: Memoir of a Bulimic Black Boy will be adding show dates in spring 2025. Click HERE for more information. 

Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy

Catch Andrea and Mike at their Seattle Book Launch Event: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029

Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/

Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: https://brittaniard.com/podcast

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Immediately after moving with C and M from Zambia to Seattle, WA, Sophie starts bringing C to various doctors, reporting severe health issues.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Immediately after moving with C and M from Zambia to Seattle, WA, Sophie starts bringing C to various doctors, reporting severe health issues. Just three days after C’s third birthday, she is diagnosed with Alternating Hemiplegia of Childhood (AHC), a rare, one-in-a-million neurological disorder. 

Simultaneously, Sophie enrolls her older daughter, M, in an elite gymnastics program. We speak to some of the moms who knew Sophie from the gym to get a better picture of Sophie and the two girls. They reveal a picture of a woman who, despite seeming to move from one crisis to the next, is somehow caring for a medically fragile child, nurturing an aspiring Olympian and financing all of this without a job or a partner. 

***
Links and Resources:

Chad Goller-Sojourner’s Sitting in Circles with Rich White Girls: Memoir of a Bulimic Black Boy will be adding show dates in spring 2025. Click HERE for more information. 

Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy

Catch Andrea and Mike at their Seattle Book Launch Event: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029

Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/

Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: https://brittaniard.com/podcast

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Immediately after moving with C and M from Zambia to Seattle, WA, Sophie starts bringing C to various doctors, reporting severe health issues. Just three days after C’s third birthday, she is diagnosed with Alternating Hemiplegia of Childhood (AHC), a rare, one-in-a-million neurological disorder. </p><p><br></p><p>Simultaneously, Sophie enrolls her older daughter, M, in an elite gymnastics program. We speak to some of the moms who knew Sophie from the gym to get a better picture of Sophie and the two girls. They reveal a picture of a woman who, despite seeming to move from one crisis to the next, is somehow caring for a medically fragile child, nurturing an aspiring Olympian and financing all of this without a job or a partner. </p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p>Links and Resources:</p><p><br></p><p>Chad Goller-Sojourner’s <em>Sitting in Circles with Rich White Girls: Memoir of a Bulimic Black Boy</em><strong><em> </em></strong>will be adding show dates in spring 2025. Click <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sTeiJvenxyFP-yNFjAbdiYimwURoRlgK/edit?usp=sharing&amp;ouid=104005990536076480378&amp;rtpof=true&amp;sd=true">HERE</a> for more information. </p><p><br></p><p>Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</a></p><p><br></p><p>Catch Andrea and Mike at their Seattle Book Launch Event: <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029">https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029</a></p><p><br></p><p>Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/</p><p><br></p><p>Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: <a href="https://brittaniard.com/podcast">https://brittaniard.com/podcast</a></p><p><br></p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p><br></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p><br></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S05 Ep02: Spiritual Warfare</title>
      <description>In the second episode of season 5, Andrea dives into how Sophie’s Evangelical Christian beliefs colored her worldview. From claiming that adopting a child from Zambia was God’s path for her life to allegedly performing an exorcism, Sophie’s faith is an integral part of this case. We hear from Dr. Lauren Turek, an Associate Professor of History at Trinity University in San Antonio, TX and author of To Bring the Good News to All Nations: Evangelical Influence on Human Rights and U.S. Foreign Relations, gives us a context about Evangelical Christianity in the US and abroad and helps us understand Sophie’s religious upbringing and worldview. Andrea is then joined by some of the Nobody Should Believe Me team: Senior Producer Myrriah Gossett and Lead Researcher/Producer Erin Ajayi to attempt to fill in the many blanks left by Sophie’s memoir about her time in Zambia. The three of them lay out a timeline leading up to Sophie’s adoptions of M and C, while at the same time examining the series of omissions and half-truths riddling Sophie’s story.

***
Links and Resources:

Learn more about Dr. Lauren Turek: https://laurenturek.com/

Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy

Catch Andrea and Mike at their Seattle Book Launch Event: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029

Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 Jan 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In the second episode of season 5, Andrea dives into how Sophie’s Evangelical Christian beliefs colored her worldview.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In the second episode of season 5, Andrea dives into how Sophie’s Evangelical Christian beliefs colored her worldview. From claiming that adopting a child from Zambia was God’s path for her life to allegedly performing an exorcism, Sophie’s faith is an integral part of this case. We hear from Dr. Lauren Turek, an Associate Professor of History at Trinity University in San Antonio, TX and author of To Bring the Good News to All Nations: Evangelical Influence on Human Rights and U.S. Foreign Relations, gives us a context about Evangelical Christianity in the US and abroad and helps us understand Sophie’s religious upbringing and worldview. Andrea is then joined by some of the Nobody Should Believe Me team: Senior Producer Myrriah Gossett and Lead Researcher/Producer Erin Ajayi to attempt to fill in the many blanks left by Sophie’s memoir about her time in Zambia. The three of them lay out a timeline leading up to Sophie’s adoptions of M and C, while at the same time examining the series of omissions and half-truths riddling Sophie’s story.

***
Links and Resources:

Learn more about Dr. Lauren Turek: https://laurenturek.com/

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Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

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Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the second episode of season 5, Andrea dives into how Sophie’s Evangelical Christian beliefs colored her worldview. From claiming that adopting a child from Zambia was God’s path for her life to allegedly performing an exorcism, Sophie’s faith is an integral part of this case. We hear from Dr. Lauren Turek, an Associate Professor of History at Trinity University in San Antonio, TX and author of <a href="https://www.cornellpress.cornell.edu/book/9781501748912/to-bring-the-good-news-to-all-nations/"><em>To Bring the Good News to All Nations: </em></a><em>Evangelical Influence on Human Rights and U.S. Foreign Relations</em>, gives us a context about Evangelical Christianity in the US and abroad and helps us understand Sophie’s religious upbringing and worldview. Andrea is then joined by some of the Nobody Should Believe Me team: Senior Producer Myrriah Gossett and Lead Researcher/Producer Erin Ajayi to attempt to fill in the many blanks left by Sophie’s memoir about her time in Zambia. The three of them lay out a timeline leading up to Sophie’s adoptions of M and C, while at the same time examining the series of omissions and half-truths riddling Sophie’s story.</p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p>Links and Resources:</p><p><br></p><p>Learn more about Dr. Lauren Turek: <a href="https://laurenturek.com/">https://laurenturek.com/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</a></p><p><br></p><p>Catch Andrea and Mike at their Seattle Book Launch Event: <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029">https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029</a></p><p><br></p><p>Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/</p><p><br></p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p><br></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p><br></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S05 Ep01: Sophie Saves Zambia</title>
      <description>We begin the season by delving into Sophie Hartman’s 2016 memoir about her time in Zambia, Crowns of Beauty, where we learn about how a young woman from Michigan came to be the adopted mother of two Zambian girls by the age of 25. We learn about Sophie’s deep roots in evangelical Christianity and her state of mind prior to and during the adoptions of M and C; examining the way she portrays herself as both a martyr and savior. We’re also joined by Chad Goller-Sojourner, a performance artist and transracial adoption coach, to help listeners understand the complexities of transracial adoptions. 

***
Links and Resources:

Chad Goller-Sojourner’s Sitting in Circles with Rich White Girls: Memoir of a Bulimic Black Boy will be adding show dates in spring 2025. Click HERE for more information. 

More information on Chad’s background with transracial adoption: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q76t_IpbJil2vWQVsNnw7f8Ms8p_lstK/view

Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy

Catch Andrea and Mike at their Seattle Book Launch Event: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029

Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/

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Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

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For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jan 2025 06:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>We begin the season by delving into Sophie Hartman’s 2016 memoir about her time in Zambia, Crowns of Beauty, where we learn about how a young woman from Michigan came to be the adopted mother of two Zambian girls by the age of 25.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We begin the season by delving into Sophie Hartman’s 2016 memoir about her time in Zambia, Crowns of Beauty, where we learn about how a young woman from Michigan came to be the adopted mother of two Zambian girls by the age of 25. We learn about Sophie’s deep roots in evangelical Christianity and her state of mind prior to and during the adoptions of M and C; examining the way she portrays herself as both a martyr and savior. We’re also joined by Chad Goller-Sojourner, a performance artist and transracial adoption coach, to help listeners understand the complexities of transracial adoptions. 

***
Links and Resources:

Chad Goller-Sojourner’s Sitting in Circles with Rich White Girls: Memoir of a Bulimic Black Boy will be adding show dates in spring 2025. Click HERE for more information. 

More information on Chad’s background with transracial adoption: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q76t_IpbJil2vWQVsNnw7f8Ms8p_lstK/view

Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy

Catch Andrea and Mike at their Seattle Book Launch Event: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029

Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/

Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: https://brittaniard.com/podcast

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We begin the season by delving into Sophie Hartman’s 2016 memoir about her time in Zambia, <em>Crowns of Beauty, </em>where we learn about how a young woman from Michigan came to be the adopted mother of two Zambian girls by the age of 25. We learn about Sophie’s deep roots in evangelical Christianity and her state of mind prior to and during the adoptions of M and C; examining the way she portrays herself as both a martyr and savior. We’re also joined by Chad Goller-Sojourner, a performance artist and transracial adoption coach, to help listeners understand the complexities of transracial adoptions. </p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p>Links and Resources:</p><p><br></p><p>Chad Goller-Sojourner’s <em>Sitting in Circles with Rich White Girls: Memoir of a Bulimic Black Boy</em><strong><em> </em></strong>will be adding show dates in spring 2025. Click <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1sTeiJvenxyFP-yNFjAbdiYimwURoRlgK/edit?usp=sharing&amp;ouid=104005990536076480378&amp;rtpof=true&amp;sd=true">HERE</a> for more information. </p><p><br></p><p>More information on Chad’s background with transracial adoption: <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q76t_IpbJil2vWQVsNnw7f8Ms8p_lstK/view?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q76t_IpbJil2vWQVsNnw7f8Ms8p_lstK/view</a></p><p><br></p><p>Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</a></p><p><br></p><p>Catch Andrea and Mike at their Seattle Book Launch Event: <a href="https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029">https://www.eventbrite.com/e/andrea-dunlop-and-mike-weber-the-mother-next-door-tickets-1097661478029</a></p><p><br></p><p>Learn more about our featured non-profit and mutual aid organizations: https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nsbm-supports/</p><p><br></p><p>Check out You Probably Think This Story's About You: <a href="https://brittaniard.com/podcast">https://brittaniard.com/podcast</a></p><p><br></p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p><br></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p><br></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2582</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Case Files 10: The Psychology of Perpetrators with Dr. Cathy Ayoub</title>
      <description>In this last bonus episode before our season 5 premiere next week, we’re airing Andrea’s conversation with Dr. Catherine Ayoub, an associate professor at Harvard Medical School, APSAC member, nurse practitioner, and counseling and consulting psychologist. Cathy tells listeners about her background and first encounter with Munchausen by Proxy. She and Andrea chat about the different groupings of perpetrators and the characteristics/background that may signal that an abuser can be rehabilitated. Cathy dives into family dynamics, and her current study on the long-term effects of this abuse.

***
Links and Resources:

More about Dr. Cathy Ayoub: https://www.childrenshospital.org/directory/catherine-ayoub

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Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2024 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this last bonus episode before our season 5 premiere next week, we’re airing Andrea’s conversation with Dr. Catherine Ayoub.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this last bonus episode before our season 5 premiere next week, we’re airing Andrea’s conversation with Dr. Catherine Ayoub, an associate professor at Harvard Medical School, APSAC member, nurse practitioner, and counseling and consulting psychologist. Cathy tells listeners about her background and first encounter with Munchausen by Proxy. She and Andrea chat about the different groupings of perpetrators and the characteristics/background that may signal that an abuser can be rehabilitated. Cathy dives into family dynamics, and her current study on the long-term effects of this abuse.

***
Links and Resources:

More about Dr. Cathy Ayoub: https://www.childrenshospital.org/directory/catherine-ayoub

Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this last bonus episode before our season 5 premiere next week, we’re airing Andrea’s conversation with Dr. Catherine Ayoub, an associate professor at Harvard Medical School, APSAC member, nurse practitioner, and counseling and consulting psychologist. Cathy tells listeners about her background and first encounter with Munchausen by Proxy. She and Andrea chat about the different groupings of perpetrators and the characteristics/background that may signal that an abuser can be rehabilitated. Cathy dives into family dynamics, and her current study on the long-term effects of this abuse.</p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p>Links and Resources:</p><p><br></p><p>More about Dr. Cathy Ayoub: <a href="https://www.childrenshospital.org/directory/catherine-ayoub">https://www.childrenshospital.org/directory/catherine-ayoub</a></p><p><br></p><p>Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</a></p><p><br></p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p><br></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p><br></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Season 5 Trailer</title>
      <description>Season five of Nobody Should Believe Me tells the story of Sophie Hartman: a young, white midwestern evangelical missionary who travels to Zambia and comes home with two vulnerable sisters in her care. When she returns to the states, she lands far away from her family in Seattle, WA where she embarks on a medical odyssey with her younger daughter, C, reporting a variety of alarming symptoms: from chronic vomiting, to seizures, to days-long episodes of full-body paralysis.  Eventually, C is diagnosed with a rare neurological disorder called Alternating Hemiplegia of Childhood. Sophie weaves a tale of a child who could “leave us anytime” and uses the child’s illness to fundraise tens of thousands of dollars for special equipment and medical expenses, takes C on a Make-A-Wish trip, posts constantly about her family’s plight on her prolific social media accounts, and even writes a memoir about the story of her journey to adopt her. But is Sophie really the heroic mother of a sick child, or is she the ultimate unreliable narrator? 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2024 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>trailer</itunes:episodeType>
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      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Season five of Nobody Should Believe Me tells the story of Sophie Hartman: a young, white midwestern evangelical missionary who travels to Zambia and comes home with two vulnerable sisters in her care. When she returns to the states, she lands far away from her family in Seattle, WA where she embarks on a medical odyssey with her younger daughter, C, reporting a variety of alarming symptoms: from chronic vomiting, to seizures, to days-long episodes of full-body paralysis.  Eventually, C is diagnosed with a rare neurological disorder called Alternating Hemiplegia of Childhood. Sophie weaves a tale of a child who could “leave us anytime” and uses the child’s illness to fundraise tens of thousands of dollars for special equipment and medical expenses, takes C on a Make-A-Wish trip, posts constantly about her family’s plight on her prolific social media accounts, and even writes a memoir about the story of her journey to adopt her. But is Sophie really the heroic mother of a sick child, or is she the ultimate unreliable narrator? 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Season five of Nobody Should Believe Me tells the story of Sophie Hartman: a young, white midwestern evangelical missionary who travels to Zambia and comes home with two vulnerable sisters in her care. When she returns to the states, she lands far away from her family in Seattle, WA where she embarks on a medical odyssey with her younger daughter, C, reporting a variety of alarming symptoms: from chronic vomiting, to seizures, to days-long episodes of full-body paralysis.  Eventually, C is diagnosed with a rare neurological disorder called Alternating Hemiplegia of Childhood. Sophie weaves a tale of a child who could “leave us anytime” and uses the child’s illness to fundraise tens of thousands of dollars for special equipment and medical expenses, takes C on a Make-A-Wish trip, posts constantly about her family’s plight on her prolific social media accounts, and even writes a memoir about the story of her journey to adopt her. But is Sophie really the heroic mother of a sick child, or is she the ultimate unreliable narrator? </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Case Files 09: Jesika Jones Part 4 with Detective Mike Weber</title>
      <description>In the final part of our miniseries covering the Jesika Jones case, Andrea is once again joined by Detective Mike Weber, who shares the series of events from Jesika’s first bond violation through to her 60 year sentencing, from his perspective as law enforcement. He shares the differences in how seriously child abuse cases are taken when there’s a male vs female perpetrator, and the politics behind trying Medical Child Abuse cases in court. Andrea and Mike wrap up their conversation by talking about the systemic changes that need to happen, not only to protect kids from this abuse, but also to help families after the damage has been done.

***

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      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Dec 2024 15:07:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In the final part of our miniseries covering the Jesika Jones case, Andrea is once again joined by Detective Mike Weber.</itunes:subtitle>
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***

Links/Resources: 

Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Case Files 08: Jesika Jones Part 3 with Derek Jones</title>
      <description>Welcome back to the 3rd installment of our 4-part series on the Jesika Jones case. In this episode, Andrea is wrapping up her conversation with Derek Jones. Derek recaps the fallout after Jesika’s lies finally start to unravel: the frustrating journey of working with the DA on the case, Jesika’s sentencing, and how his kids are doing today. Stay tuned for the final episode next week, where Andrea is once again joined by Detective Mike Weber.

***

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The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Dec 2024 20:18:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Andrea is wrapping up her conversation with Derek Jones.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Welcome back to the 3rd installment of our 4-part series on the Jesika Jones case. In this episode, Andrea is wrapping up her conversation with Derek Jones. Derek recaps the fallout after Jesika’s lies finally start to unravel: the frustrating journey of working with the DA on the case, Jesika’s sentencing, and how his kids are doing today. Stay tuned for the final episode next week, where Andrea is once again joined by Detective Mike Weber.

***

Links/Resources: 

Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Welcome back to the 3rd installment of our 4-part series on the Jesika Jones case. In this episode, Andrea is wrapping up her conversation with Derek Jones. Derek recaps the fallout after Jesika’s lies finally start to unravel: the frustrating journey of working with the DA on the case, Jesika’s sentencing, and how his kids are doing today. Stay tuned for the final episode next week, where Andrea is once again joined by Detective Mike Weber.</p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p><br></p><p>Links/Resources: </p><p><br></p><p>Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</a></p><p><br></p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p><br></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p><br></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Case Files 07: Jesika Jones Part 2 with Derek Jones</title>
      <description>In the second episode of Andrea’s coverage of the Jesika Jones case, she’s joined by Derek Jones, Jesika’s then-husband. Derek bravely tells the story of how he and Jesika met, their home life, and the decline in their daughter's health. Talking to Derek gives listeners insight into the manipulative nature of perpetrators, not only with their victims, but also with everyone around them, and the mental toll of coming to terms with such a monumental breach of trust.

Stay tuned for part 2 of their conversation, coming next week.

***

Links/Resources: 

Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2024 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In the second episode of Andrea’s coverage of the Jesika Jones case, she’s joined by Derek Jones, Jesika’s then-husband.</itunes:subtitle>
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Stay tuned for part 2 of their conversation, coming next week.

***

Links/Resources: 

Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the second episode of Andrea’s coverage of the Jesika Jones case, she’s joined by Derek Jones, Jesika’s then-husband. Derek bravely tells the story of how he and Jesika met, their home life, and the decline in their daughter's health. Talking to Derek gives listeners insight into the manipulative nature of perpetrators, not only with their victims, but also with everyone around them, and the mental toll of coming to terms with such a monumental breach of trust.</p><p><br></p><p>Stay tuned for part 2 of their conversation, coming next week.</p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p><br></p><p>Links/Resources: </p><p><br></p><p>Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</a></p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Case Files 06: Jesika Jones Part 1 with Detective Mike Weber</title>
      <description>This week on case files, Andrea is joined by Detective Mike Weber, a crimes against children investigator and long-time friend/contributor to the show, to discuss the Jesika Jones case. Detective Mike is called onto this case in mid-2022 after Jesika brings her 4 year old daughter into Cook Children’s Hospital multiple times for an alleged seizure disorder. As the case evolves, Mike learns just how compulsive an offender who is allowed to walk can truly be. 

***

Links/Resources: 

Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week on case files, Andrea is joined by Detective Mike Weber, a crimes against children investigator and long-time friend/contributor to the show, to discuss the Jessika Jones case.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This week on case files, Andrea is joined by Detective Mike Weber, a crimes against children investigator and long-time friend/contributor to the show, to discuss the Jesika Jones case. Detective Mike is called onto this case in mid-2022 after Jesika brings her 4 year old daughter into Cook Children’s Hospital multiple times for an alleged seizure disorder. As the case evolves, Mike learns just how compulsive an offender who is allowed to walk can truly be. 

***

Links/Resources: 

Preorder Andrea and Mike’s new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Revisiting Season 3: Shelter</title>
      <description>While the Nobody Should Believe Me team is hard at work on season 5, we’re revisiting the first episode of our third season, which covered the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Children's trial, also known as the Take Care of Maya Case. 

Next week, we have a brand new miniseries coming to your ears, so stay tuned.

***

As the Maya Kowalski case heads to trial, we dig into the massive trove of documents about this case and begin to unpack what we know about what really happened during Maya Kowalski’s fateful stay at Johns Hopkins All Childrens in October 2016.  
The Netflix documentary about the case—and the prevailing media narrative---would have you believe that Maya was ripped from her parents by a corrupt system, and that this could happen to any parent of a sick child. But did Maya really have a deadly disease for which she required the massive amounts of ketamine and other drugs she was being given? Was the hospital unfairly biased against Beata Kowalski because she was difficult, or was something more sinister at play?  
We talk to national law enforcement expert on medical child abuse, Detective Mike Weber, as well as a Florida pediatrician who helps us unravel some of the myriad strange details about Maya’s medical history.  
The beginning of our multi-part deep dive into the case reveals the shocking events that led up to the family separation. 

***

Links/Resources: 

Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Kowalski case: https://www.patreon.com/collection/548199
Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2024 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>While the Nobody Should Believe Me team is hard at work on season 5, we’re revisiting the first episode of our third season, which covered the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Children's trial, also known as the Take Care of Maya Case. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>While the Nobody Should Believe Me team is hard at work on season 5, we’re revisiting the first episode of our third season, which covered the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Children's trial, also known as the Take Care of Maya Case. 

Next week, we have a brand new miniseries coming to your ears, so stay tuned.

***

As the Maya Kowalski case heads to trial, we dig into the massive trove of documents about this case and begin to unpack what we know about what really happened during Maya Kowalski’s fateful stay at Johns Hopkins All Childrens in October 2016.  
The Netflix documentary about the case—and the prevailing media narrative---would have you believe that Maya was ripped from her parents by a corrupt system, and that this could happen to any parent of a sick child. But did Maya really have a deadly disease for which she required the massive amounts of ketamine and other drugs she was being given? Was the hospital unfairly biased against Beata Kowalski because she was difficult, or was something more sinister at play?  
We talk to national law enforcement expert on medical child abuse, Detective Mike Weber, as well as a Florida pediatrician who helps us unravel some of the myriad strange details about Maya’s medical history.  
The beginning of our multi-part deep dive into the case reveals the shocking events that led up to the family separation. 

***

Links/Resources: 

Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Kowalski case: https://www.patreon.com/collection/548199
Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>While the Nobody Should Believe Me team is hard at work on season 5, we’re revisiting the first episode of our third season, which covered the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Children's trial, also known as the Take Care of Maya Case. </p><p><br></p><p>Next week, we have a brand new miniseries coming to your ears, so stay tuned.</p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p><br></p><p>As the Maya Kowalski case heads to trial, we dig into the massive trove of documents about this case and begin to unpack what we know about what really happened during Maya Kowalski’s fateful stay at Johns Hopkins All Childrens in October 2016.  </p><p>The Netflix documentary about the case—and the prevailing media narrative---would have you believe that Maya was ripped from her parents by a corrupt system, and that this could happen to any parent of a sick child. But did Maya really have a deadly disease for which she required the massive amounts of ketamine and other drugs she was being given? Was the hospital unfairly biased against Beata Kowalski because she was difficult, or was something more sinister at play?  </p><p>We talk to national law enforcement expert on medical child abuse, Detective Mike Weber, as well as a Florida pediatrician who helps us unravel some of the myriad strange details about Maya’s medical history.  </p><p>The beginning of our multi-part deep dive into the case reveals the shocking events that led up to the family separation. </p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p><br></p><p>Links/Resources: </p><p><br></p><p>Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Kowalski case: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/collection/548199">https://www.patreon.com/collection/548199</a></p><p>Preorder Andrea's new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</a></p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Exploring the Disturbing World of Mitoaction.org</title>
      <description>In this episode, Andrea and Dr. Bex discuss mitochondrial disorders, which Dr. Bex has seen first-hand in her pediatric patients, and their connection to medical child abuse, most notably in the Justina Pelletier case. Like most illnesses seen in Munchausen by Proxy cases, while there are tests that doctors run, mitochondrial disorders present challenges in distinguishing genuine cases because of the array of symptoms they present. They discuss how support groups and websites–while so important for families dealing with complex chronic illnesses–can serve as playbooks for offenders. 

Andrea and Dr. Bex take listeners through the website for Mitoaction.org and its advice that appears to be directed squarely at perpetrators of medical child abuse.

* * * 
Visit mitoaction.org
                                                                     
Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2024 16:24:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Andrea and Dr. Bex discuss mitochondrial disorders, which Dr. Bex has seen first-hand in her pediatric patients, and their connection to medical child abuse, most notably in the Justina Pelletier case.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Andrea and Dr. Bex discuss mitochondrial disorders, which Dr. Bex has seen first-hand in her pediatric patients, and their connection to medical child abuse, most notably in the Justina Pelletier case. Like most illnesses seen in Munchausen by Proxy cases, while there are tests that doctors run, mitochondrial disorders present challenges in distinguishing genuine cases because of the array of symptoms they present. They discuss how support groups and websites–while so important for families dealing with complex chronic illnesses–can serve as playbooks for offenders. 

Andrea and Dr. Bex take listeners through the website for Mitoaction.org and its advice that appears to be directed squarely at perpetrators of medical child abuse.

* * * 
Visit mitoaction.org
                                                                     
Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here. 

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Andrea and Dr. Bex discuss mitochondrial disorders, which Dr. Bex has seen first-hand in her pediatric patients, and their connection to medical child abuse, most notably in the Justina Pelletier case. Like most illnesses seen in Munchausen by Proxy cases, while there are tests that doctors run, mitochondrial disorders present challenges in distinguishing genuine cases because of the array of symptoms they present. They discuss how support groups and websites–while so important for families dealing with complex chronic illnesses–can serve as playbooks for offenders. </p><p><br></p><p>Andrea and Dr. Bex take listeners through the website for Mitoaction.org and its advice that appears to be directed squarely at perpetrators of medical child abuse.</p><p><br></p><p>* * * </p><p>Visit <a href="http://mitoaction.org">mitoaction.org</a></p><p>                                                                     </p><p>Preorder Andrea's new book<a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/"> </a><a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</a>. </p><p><br></p><p>Click<a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/"> </a><a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe on<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod"> </a><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p><p><br></p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos:<a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/"> </a><a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p><br></p><p>Buy Andrea's books<a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI"> </a><a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>. </p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit<a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/"> </a><a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p><br></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded<a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf"> </a><a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>. </p><p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>6023</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>On Combatting Hopelessness </title>
      <description>In the wake of this week's election results, Andrea shares a minisode with her thoughts on committing yourself to a fight that feels impossible. 

Want to suggest a non-profit for us to support? Drop us a line hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Nov 2024 21:18:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In the wake of this week's election results, Andrea shares a minisode with her thoughts on committing yourself to a fight that feels impossible. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In the wake of this week's election results, Andrea shares a minisode with her thoughts on committing yourself to a fight that feels impossible. 

Want to suggest a non-profit for us to support? Drop us a line hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the wake of this week's election results, Andrea shares a minisode with her thoughts on committing yourself to a fight that feels impossible. </p><p><br></p><p>Want to suggest a non-profit for us to support? Drop us a line <a href="mailto:hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com">hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com</a> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>347</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Case Files 05: Justina Pelletier Part 4</title>
      <description>Dr. Bex joins Andrea for the final installment of our Justina Pelletier miniseries. They pick up by giving an overview of the court case, and the eerie similarities to the Kowalski case. They chat about the experts who were brought in by both the Pelletiers and Boston Children’s, and the importance of looking into the background of expert witnesses. Dr. Bex and Andrea break down the connection between somatoform disorder and prolonged Medical Child Abuse, and how it may affect the recovery of the victim once they are separated from their abuser. 

Bex and Andrea also catch listeners up on where Justina Pelletier is now and what the trajectory of her life and health has looked like since being returned to her parents. 

***

Links/Resources: 

The Battle for Justina Pelletier: https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112
Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Justina Pelletier case: https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935
Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Nov 2024 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/9257aae6-9c92-11ef-9dbe-1b5d82adc87f/image/de198ad4311fa146fac01e8926b9b1bf.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Dr. Bex joins Andrea for the final installment of our Justina Pelletier miniseries.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Dr. Bex joins Andrea for the final installment of our Justina Pelletier miniseries. They pick up by giving an overview of the court case, and the eerie similarities to the Kowalski case. They chat about the experts who were brought in by both the Pelletiers and Boston Children’s, and the importance of looking into the background of expert witnesses. Dr. Bex and Andrea break down the connection between somatoform disorder and prolonged Medical Child Abuse, and how it may affect the recovery of the victim once they are separated from their abuser. 

Bex and Andrea also catch listeners up on where Justina Pelletier is now and what the trajectory of her life and health has looked like since being returned to her parents. 

***

Links/Resources: 

The Battle for Justina Pelletier: https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112
Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Justina Pelletier case: https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935
Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Dr. Bex joins Andrea for the final installment of our Justina Pelletier miniseries. They pick up by giving an overview of the court case, and the eerie similarities to the Kowalski case. They chat about the experts who were brought in by both the Pelletiers and Boston Children’s, and the importance of looking into the background of expert witnesses. Dr. Bex and Andrea break down the connection between somatoform disorder and prolonged Medical Child Abuse, and how it may affect the recovery of the victim once they are separated from their abuser. </p><p><br></p><p>Bex and Andrea also catch listeners up on where Justina Pelletier is now and what the trajectory of her life and health has looked like since being returned to her parents. </p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p><br></p><p>Links/Resources: </p><p><br></p><p>The Battle for Justina Pelletier: <a href="https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112">https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112</a></p><p>Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Justina Pelletier case: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935">https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935</a></p><p>Preorder Andrea's new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</a></p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Case Files 04: Justina Pelletier Part 3 with Beau Berman</title>
      <description>In part 3 of our Justina Pelletier mini-series, Andrea and Beau pick up where part 2 left off, with the topic of mitoaction.org. They then get into the side story of Martin Gottesfeld, a hacker who did not know the family, but took on the mantle of saving Justina by hacking into the Boston Childrens’ system to pressure them into releasing her. Beau talks about the last time he was contacted by the Pelletiers, Lou Pelletier’s reaction to the media attention, and how Justina is doing currently.


***

Links/Resources: 

https://www.mitoaction.org/
The Battle for Justina Pelletier: https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112
Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Justina Pelletier case: https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935
Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 31 Oct 2024 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In part 3 of our Justina Pelletier mini-series, Andrea and Beau pick up where part 2 left off, with the topic of mitoaction.org.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In part 3 of our Justina Pelletier mini-series, Andrea and Beau pick up where part 2 left off, with the topic of mitoaction.org. They then get into the side story of Martin Gottesfeld, a hacker who did not know the family, but took on the mantle of saving Justina by hacking into the Boston Childrens’ system to pressure them into releasing her. Beau talks about the last time he was contacted by the Pelletiers, Lou Pelletier’s reaction to the media attention, and how Justina is doing currently.


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Links/Resources: 

https://www.mitoaction.org/
The Battle for Justina Pelletier: https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112
Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Justina Pelletier case: https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935
Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In part 3 of our Justina Pelletier mini-series, Andrea and Beau pick up where part 2 left off, with the topic of mitoaction.org. They then get into the side story of Martin Gottesfeld, a hacker who did not know the family, but took on the mantle of saving Justina by hacking into the Boston Childrens’ system to pressure them into releasing her. Beau talks about the last time he was contacted by the Pelletiers, Lou Pelletier’s reaction to the media attention, and how Justina is doing currently.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p><br></p><p>Links/Resources: </p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.mitoaction.org/">https://www.mitoaction.org/</a></p><p>The Battle for Justina Pelletier: <a href="https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112">https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112</a></p><p>Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Justina Pelletier case: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935">https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935</a></p><p>Preorder Andrea's new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</a></p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Case Files 03: Justina Pelletier Part 2 with Beau Berman</title>
      <description>On this show we talk a lot about how Munchausen by Proxy cases are covered in the media, and today we’re getting the inside scoop from the reporter who broke one of the most high profile MBP stories. Beau Berman began covering the Justina Pelletier case back in 2013 as a young reporter and watched over the years as the case evolved and got stranger and stranger. He tells Andrea about how the story came across his desk and the complexities of trying to keep the balance on both sides while dealing with HIPAA. He reflects on his time with the Pelletiers and his thoughts on the case more than a decade after covering it. 

***

Links/Resources: 

The Battle for Justina Pelletier: https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112

Read about Justina Pelleiter in The Boston Globe: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2020/01/12/pelletier/0I2dQrYlZFJ9tNzscaXdAO/story.html

Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Justina Pelletier case: https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935

Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2024 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>On this show we talk a lot about how Munchausen by Proxy cases are covered in the media, and today we’re getting the inside scoop from the reporter who broke one of the most high profile MBP stories.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>On this show we talk a lot about how Munchausen by Proxy cases are covered in the media, and today we’re getting the inside scoop from the reporter who broke one of the most high profile MBP stories. Beau Berman began covering the Justina Pelletier case back in 2013 as a young reporter and watched over the years as the case evolved and got stranger and stranger. He tells Andrea about how the story came across his desk and the complexities of trying to keep the balance on both sides while dealing with HIPAA. He reflects on his time with the Pelletiers and his thoughts on the case more than a decade after covering it. 

***

Links/Resources: 

The Battle for Justina Pelletier: https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112

Read about Justina Pelleiter in The Boston Globe: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2020/01/12/pelletier/0I2dQrYlZFJ9tNzscaXdAO/story.html

Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Justina Pelletier case: https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935

Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!

Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.

Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop

Buy Andrea's books here.

To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com

The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>On this show we talk a lot about how Munchausen by Proxy cases are covered in the media, and today we’re getting the inside scoop from the reporter who broke one of the most high profile MBP stories. Beau Berman began covering the Justina Pelletier case back in 2013 as a young reporter and watched over the years as the case evolved and got stranger and stranger. He tells Andrea about how the story came across his desk and the complexities of trying to keep the balance on both sides while dealing with HIPAA. He reflects on his time with the Pelletiers and his thoughts on the case more than a decade after covering it. </p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p><br></p><p>Links/Resources: </p><p><br></p><p>The Battle for Justina Pelletier: <a href="https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112">https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112</a></p><p><br></p><p>Read about Justina Pelleiter in The Boston Globe: <a href="https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2020/01/12/pelletier/0I2dQrYlZFJ9tNzscaXdAO/story.html">https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2020/01/12/pelletier/0I2dQrYlZFJ9tNzscaXdAO/story.html</a></p><p><br></p><p>Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Justina Pelletier case: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935">https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935</a></p><p><br></p><p>Preorder Andrea's new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</a></p><p><br></p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p><br></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p><br></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Case Files 02: Justina Pelletier Part 1</title>
      <description>Case Files is back with the first episode of a multi-part series on the Justina Pelletier case. Andrea and Dr. Bex covered this case in the subscriber feed, but, due to popular demand, decided to bring it to the main podcast.

Justina Pelletier was a 14-year-old girl whose hospitalization at Boston Children's Hospital sparked a significant legal and media frenzy. Andrea and Dr. Bex’s discussion covers the medical background of Justina's condition, including mitochondrial disease and somatoform disorder, the treatment plans proposed by the hospital, and the escalating conflict between her family and medical professionals. 

***

Links/Resources: 

The Battle for Justina Pelletier: https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112
Read about Justina Pelletier in The Boston Globe: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2020/01/12/pelletier/0I2dQrYlZFJ9tNzscaXdAO/story.html
Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Justina Pelletier case: https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935
Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Oct 2024 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/d18ffa0c-8c2e-11ef-a883-3fa17c5f7312/image/de198ad4311fa146fac01e8926b9b1bf.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Case Files is back with the first episode of a multi-part series on the Justina Pelletier case. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Case Files is back with the first episode of a multi-part series on the Justina Pelletier case. Andrea and Dr. Bex covered this case in the subscriber feed, but, due to popular demand, decided to bring it to the main podcast.

Justina Pelletier was a 14-year-old girl whose hospitalization at Boston Children's Hospital sparked a significant legal and media frenzy. Andrea and Dr. Bex’s discussion covers the medical background of Justina's condition, including mitochondrial disease and somatoform disorder, the treatment plans proposed by the hospital, and the escalating conflict between her family and medical professionals. 

***

Links/Resources: 

The Battle for Justina Pelletier: https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112
Read about Justina Pelletier in The Boston Globe: https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2020/01/12/pelletier/0I2dQrYlZFJ9tNzscaXdAO/story.html
Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Justina Pelletier case: https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935
Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Case Files is back with the first episode of a multi-part series on the Justina Pelletier case. Andrea and Dr. Bex covered this case in the subscriber feed, but, due to popular demand, decided to bring it to the main podcast.</p><p><br></p><p>Justina Pelletier was a 14-year-old girl whose hospitalization at Boston Children's Hospital sparked a significant legal and media frenzy. Andrea and Dr. Bex’s discussion covers the medical background of Justina's condition, including mitochondrial disease and somatoform disorder, the treatment plans proposed by the hospital, and the escalating conflict between her family and medical professionals. </p><p><br></p><p>***</p><p><br></p><p>Links/Resources: </p><p><br></p><p>The Battle for Justina Pelletier: <a href="https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112">https://www.peacocktv.com/watch-online/tv/the-battle-for-justina-pelletier/5657866397468499112</a></p><p>Read about Justina Pelletier in The Boston Globe: <a href="https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2020/01/12/pelletier/0I2dQrYlZFJ9tNzscaXdAO/story.html">https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2020/01/12/pelletier/0I2dQrYlZFJ9tNzscaXdAO/story.html</a></p><p>Join Patreon for a look at Andrea and Dr. Bex’s previous coverage of the Justina Pelletier case: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935">https://www.patreon.com/collection/507935</a></p><p>Preorder Andrea's new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</a></p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Case Files 01: Kowalski, Ketamine, and Matthew Perry</title>
      <description>Welcome to the first episode of Case Files, our new series for episodes between seasons! Andrea, either solo or joined by guests, will be taking listeners through additional Munchausen by Proxy cases, updates on previously covered cases, and the broader societal impact of this form of child abuse.

In this conversation, Andrea and Dr. Bex (our secret Florida doctor friend from season 3) delve into the growing popularity of ketamine usage and the public perception of the role that it played in the Take Care of Maya case compared to the death of Friends actor Matthew Perry. After giving a quick overview of the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins trial and an update on the appeal, they discuss how ketamine was used in Maya Kowalski’s treatment vs the current medical standard. Andrea and Dr. Bex then go on to recap and draw parallels to what happened to Matthew Perry.

* * *
Links/Resources: 

Join as a free Patreon member to listen to our interview with Ethen Shapiro about the appeal in Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Children’s: https://www.patreon.com/posts/kowalski-case-to-110897045
Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Oct 2024 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/acd3997e-869f-11ef-af64-3be68bb8b47a/image/de198ad4311fa146fac01e8926b9b1bf.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Welcome to the first episode of Case Files, our new series for episodes between seasons! </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Welcome to the first episode of Case Files, our new series for episodes between seasons! Andrea, either solo or joined by guests, will be taking listeners through additional Munchausen by Proxy cases, updates on previously covered cases, and the broader societal impact of this form of child abuse.

In this conversation, Andrea and Dr. Bex (our secret Florida doctor friend from season 3) delve into the growing popularity of ketamine usage and the public perception of the role that it played in the Take Care of Maya case compared to the death of Friends actor Matthew Perry. After giving a quick overview of the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins trial and an update on the appeal, they discuss how ketamine was used in Maya Kowalski’s treatment vs the current medical standard. Andrea and Dr. Bex then go on to recap and draw parallels to what happened to Matthew Perry.

* * *
Links/Resources: 

Join as a free Patreon member to listen to our interview with Ethen Shapiro about the appeal in Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Children’s: https://www.patreon.com/posts/kowalski-case-to-110897045
Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the first episode of Case Files, our new series for episodes between seasons! Andrea, either solo or joined by guests, will be taking listeners through additional Munchausen by Proxy cases, updates on previously covered cases, and the broader societal impact of this form of child abuse.</p><p><br></p><p>In this conversation, Andrea and Dr. Bex (our secret Florida doctor friend from season 3) delve into the growing popularity of ketamine usage and the public perception of the role that it played in the Take Care of Maya case compared to the death of <em>Friends</em> actor Matthew Perry. After giving a quick overview of the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins trial and an update on the appeal, they discuss how ketamine was used in Maya Kowalski’s treatment vs the current medical standard. Andrea and Dr. Bex then go on to recap and draw parallels to what happened to Matthew Perry.</p><p><br></p><p>* * *</p><p>Links/Resources: </p><p><br></p><p>Join as a free Patreon member to listen to our interview with Ethen Shapiro about the appeal in Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Children’s: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/kowalski-case-to-110897045?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&amp;utm_source=copyLink&amp;utm_campaign=postshare_creator&amp;utm_content=join_link">https://www.patreon.com/posts/kowalski-case-to-110897045</a></p><p>Preorder Andrea's new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</a></p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive ethical true crime bonus content.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>A Ride-along with The Dating Detectives</title>
      <description>In this very special crossover episode with our friends at The Dating Detectives, Andrea joins private eye Mackenzie Fultz and comedian Hannah Anderson as they delve into a case of medical mystery and romantic deception. Mila joins us to tell her harrowing story about how her girlfriend’s tragic battle with brain cancer turned out to be something far more sinister.
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Check out The Dating Detectives!
Follow The Dating Detectives on instagram.
Follow Hanna and Mackenzie on instagram.
Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Jul 2024 16:11:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this very special crossover episode with our friends at The Dating Detectives, Andrea joins private eye Mackenzie Fultz and comedian Hannah Anderson as they delve into a case of medical mystery and romantic deception.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this very special crossover episode with our friends at The Dating Detectives, Andrea joins private eye Mackenzie Fultz and comedian Hannah Anderson as they delve into a case of medical mystery and romantic deception. Mila joins us to tell her harrowing story about how her girlfriend’s tragic battle with brain cancer turned out to be something far more sinister.
***
Check out The Dating Detectives!
Follow The Dating Detectives on instagram.
Follow Hanna and Mackenzie on instagram.
Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this very special crossover episode with our friends at The Dating Detectives, Andrea joins private eye Mackenzie Fultz and comedian Hannah Anderson as they delve into a case of medical mystery and romantic deception. Mila joins us to tell her harrowing story about how her girlfriend’s tragic battle with brain cancer turned out to be something far more sinister.</p><p>***</p><p>Check out <a href="https://www.thedatingdetectivespodcast.com/">The Dating Detectives</a>!</p><p>Follow The Dating Detectives on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/datingdetectivespodcast/">instagram</a>.</p><p>Follow <a href="https://www.instagram.com/hannaandergram/">Hanna</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/freedom_barbie/">Mackenzie</a> on instagram.</p><p>Preorder Andrea's new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</a></p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Crime Close to Home: A Conversation with Madison McGhee</title>
      <description>Andrea Dunlop interviews Madison McGhee, host of the Ice Cold Case podcast, about her personal journey investigating her father's unsolved murder in 2002. They discuss the emotional complexity of the investigation, the challenges of maintaining objectivity, and the broader implications of failings in the justice system. Madison shares insights into how her podcast developed, her experiences with family backlash, and her determination to find answers.
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Listen to Ice Cold Case.
Follow Madison on Instagram.                
Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here. 
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. 
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Jun 2024 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Andrea Dunlop interviews Madison McGhee, host of the Ice Cold Case podcast, about her personal journey investigating her father's unsolved murder in 2002.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Andrea Dunlop interviews Madison McGhee, host of the Ice Cold Case podcast, about her personal journey investigating her father's unsolved murder in 2002. They discuss the emotional complexity of the investigation, the challenges of maintaining objectivity, and the broader implications of failings in the justice system. Madison shares insights into how her podcast developed, her experiences with family backlash, and her determination to find answers.
* * *
Listen to Ice Cold Case.
Follow Madison on Instagram.                
Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here. 
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. 
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Andrea Dunlop interviews Madison McGhee, host of the Ice Cold Case podcast, about her personal journey investigating her father's unsolved murder in 2002. They discuss the emotional complexity of the investigation, the challenges of maintaining objectivity, and the broader implications of failings in the justice system. Madison shares insights into how her podcast developed, her experiences with family backlash, and her determination to find answers.</p><p>* * *</p><p>Listen to <a href="https://www.icecoldcase.com/">Ice Cold Case</a>.</p><p>Follow Madison on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/madison_mcghee/?hl=en">Instagram</a>.                </p><p>Preorder Andrea's new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy.</a> </p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>. </p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. </p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Answering Your Season 3 Questions with Dr. Bex</title>
      <description>Welcome to the Season 3 mailbag episode!  Andrea is joined by Dr. Bex (aka Secret Florida Doctor Friend), to sort through all the commentary and listener feedback from Season 3. They tackle the good, the bad, and the just plain weird from the comments, and answer burning questions about the Kowalski case. We hear what it was like to cover this case in real time and to go on the road to meet some of the key players. Come down the rabbit hole with us! 
* * *
Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here. 
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. 
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Jun 2024 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Welcome to the Season 3 mailbag episode!</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Welcome to the Season 3 mailbag episode!  Andrea is joined by Dr. Bex (aka Secret Florida Doctor Friend), to sort through all the commentary and listener feedback from Season 3. They tackle the good, the bad, and the just plain weird from the comments, and answer burning questions about the Kowalski case. We hear what it was like to cover this case in real time and to go on the road to meet some of the key players. Come down the rabbit hole with us! 
* * *
Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here. 
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. 
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the Season 3 mailbag episode!  Andrea is joined by Dr. Bex (aka Secret Florida Doctor Friend), to sort through all the commentary and listener feedback from Season 3. They tackle the good, the bad, and the just plain weird from the comments, and answer burning questions about the Kowalski case. We hear what it was like to cover this case in real time and to go on the road to meet some of the key players. Come down the rabbit hole with us! </p><p>* * *</p><p>Preorder Andrea's new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</a>. </p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>. </p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. </p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Child Abuse Prevention: A Conversation with Kathleen Strader</title>
      <description>This week Andrea is joined by Kathleen Strader, the National Director for Healthy Families America, the signature home visiting program of Prevent Child Abuse America. Following  the Take Care of Maya film and media coverage of so-called "medical kidnapping" and misleading coverage of child abuse, we move the conversation to solutions: what can we do to prevent child abuse? We delve into Kathleen's background dealing with child abuse cases and her work supporting families through home visiting programs. Their conversation touches on the complexities of child abuse, systemic issues, and the importance of supportive measures and interventions that meet families where they are. As we wrap up our coverage of the landmark Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens case, we issue a hopeful message of how we can alleviate one of society's most challenging problems. 
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Check out Prevent Child Abuse America.                                   
Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here. 
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. 
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 30 May 2024 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week Andrea is joined by Kathleen Strader, the National Director for Healthy Families America, the signature home visiting program of Prevent Child Abuse America.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This week Andrea is joined by Kathleen Strader, the National Director for Healthy Families America, the signature home visiting program of Prevent Child Abuse America. Following  the Take Care of Maya film and media coverage of so-called "medical kidnapping" and misleading coverage of child abuse, we move the conversation to solutions: what can we do to prevent child abuse? We delve into Kathleen's background dealing with child abuse cases and her work supporting families through home visiting programs. Their conversation touches on the complexities of child abuse, systemic issues, and the importance of supportive measures and interventions that meet families where they are. As we wrap up our coverage of the landmark Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens case, we issue a hopeful message of how we can alleviate one of society's most challenging problems. 
* * *
Check out Prevent Child Abuse America.                                   
Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here. 
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. 
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week Andrea is joined by Kathleen Strader, the National Director for Healthy Families America, the signature home visiting program of Prevent Child Abuse America. Following  the Take Care of Maya film and media coverage of so-called "medical kidnapping" and misleading coverage of child abuse, we move the conversation to solutions: what can we do to prevent child abuse? We delve into Kathleen's background dealing with child abuse cases and her work supporting families through home visiting programs. Their conversation touches on the complexities of child abuse, systemic issues, and the importance of supportive measures and interventions that meet families where they are. As we wrap up our coverage of the landmark Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens case, we issue a hopeful message of how we can alleviate one of society's most challenging problems. </p><p>* * *</p><p>Check out <a href="https://preventchildabuse.org/">Prevent Child Abuse America</a>.                                   </p><p>Preorder Andrea's new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. </a></p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>. </p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. </p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a> </p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>What's Happening in Lehigh?</title>
      <description>This week Andrea is joined by Dr. Marc Feldman as she dives into the complexities and controversies surrounding medical child abuse and the developing story in Lehigh, PA about "overdiagnosis". They delve into the media’s role in shaping perceptions and the potential for a moral panic about doctors "falsely accusing" parents of child abuse. Andrea and Dr. Feldman address the challenges in protecting children, critiques of the healthcare and legal systems, and the broader social and political movement emerging from these cases.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 23 May 2024 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week Andrea is joined by Dr. Marc Feldman as she dives into the complexities and controversies surrounding medical child abuse and the developing story in Lehigh, PA about "overdiagnosis".</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This week Andrea is joined by Dr. Marc Feldman as she dives into the complexities and controversies surrounding medical child abuse and the developing story in Lehigh, PA about "overdiagnosis". They delve into the media’s role in shaping perceptions and the potential for a moral panic about doctors "falsely accusing" parents of child abuse. Andrea and Dr. Feldman address the challenges in protecting children, critiques of the healthcare and legal systems, and the broader social and political movement emerging from these cases.
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week Andrea is joined by Dr. Marc Feldman as she dives into the complexities and controversies surrounding medical child abuse and the developing story in Lehigh, PA about "overdiagnosis". They delve into the media’s role in shaping perceptions and the potential for a moral panic about doctors "falsely accusing" parents of child abuse. Andrea and Dr. Feldman address the challenges in protecting children, critiques of the healthcare and legal systems, and the broader social and political movement emerging from these cases.</p><p>* * *                                                                                     </p><p>Preorder Andrea's new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</a>. </p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening helps us keep making the show!  </p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>. </p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. </p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a> </p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S03 E20: Kowalski Case Update with Ethen Shapiro</title>
      <description>Join Andrea as she delves back into the ongoing legal battle of Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins All Children's Hospital, with Ethen Shapiro, the lead defense attorney for Johns Hopkins All Children's. They discuss the grounds for a retrial based on allegations of juror misconduct and the potential chilling effect on mandatory reporters following the substantial amount of money awarded to the Kowalski family by the jury. 
We also look at the the broader societal impacts on mandatory reporting and the protecting vulnerable children from abuse. 
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Get up to speed on the Kowalski case with our Kowalski Catch-Up Playlist on Spotify                                                                                  
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      <pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2024 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Join Andrea as she delves back into the ongoing legal battle of Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins All Children's Hospital, with Ethen Shapiro, the lead defense attorney for Johns Hopkins All Children's.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Join Andrea as she delves back into the ongoing legal battle of Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins All Children's Hospital, with Ethen Shapiro, the lead defense attorney for Johns Hopkins All Children's. They discuss the grounds for a retrial based on allegations of juror misconduct and the potential chilling effect on mandatory reporters following the substantial amount of money awarded to the Kowalski family by the jury. 
We also look at the the broader societal impacts on mandatory reporting and the protecting vulnerable children from abuse. 
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Get up to speed on the Kowalski case with our Kowalski Catch-Up Playlist on Spotify                                                                                  
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For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
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        <![CDATA[<p>Join Andrea as she delves back into the ongoing legal battle of Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins All Children's Hospital, with Ethen Shapiro, the lead defense attorney for Johns Hopkins All Children's. They discuss the grounds for a retrial based on allegations of juror misconduct and the potential chilling effect on mandatory reporters following the substantial amount of money awarded to the Kowalski family by the jury. </p><p>We also look at the the broader societal impacts on mandatory reporting and the protecting vulnerable children from abuse. </p><p>* * *</p><p>Get up to speed on the Kowalski case with our <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0tU5rLsNkx7LeI2GhLlQ4X">Kowalski Catch-Up Playlist</a> on Spotify                                                                                  </p><p>Preorder Andrea's new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy</a>. </p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening helps us keep making the show!  </p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>. </p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. </p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com </a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S03 E19: What Happened to Beata? </title>
      <description>This week's episode delves into the intricate details surrounding Beata Kowalski's death, which was central to the Kowalski's lawsuit against Johns Hopkins All Children's, as well as the documentary 'Take Care of Maya'. In court, Beata's death was presented as an act of maternal sacrifice and heroism. Through interviews and court deposition excerpts, we'll explore the odd circumstances leading up to and immediately after Beata's death that suggest a far more complex story might lie beneath the surface.
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Get up to speed on the Kowalski case with our Kowalski Catch-Up Playlist on Spotify
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﻿Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening helps us keep making the show!
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 09 May 2024 17:57:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>This week's episode delves into the intricate details surrounding Beata Kowalski's death, which was central to the Kowalski's lawsuit against Johns Hopkins All Children's, as well as the documentary 'Take Care of Maya'. In court, Beata's death was presented as an act of maternal sacrifice and heroism. Through interviews and court deposition excerpts, we'll explore the odd circumstances leading up to and immediately after Beata's death that suggest a far more complex story might lie beneath the surface.
* * *
Get up to speed on the Kowalski case with our Kowalski Catch-Up Playlist on Spotify
Preorder Andrea's new book The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. 
﻿Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening helps us keep making the show!
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week's episode delves into the intricate details surrounding Beata Kowalski's death, which was central to the Kowalski's lawsuit against Johns Hopkins All Children's, as well as the documentary 'Take Care of Maya'. In court, Beata's death was presented as an act of maternal sacrifice and heroism. Through interviews and court deposition excerpts, we'll explore the odd circumstances leading up to and immediately after Beata's death that suggest a far more complex story might lie beneath the surface.</p><p>* * *</p><p>Get up to speed on the Kowalski case with our <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0tU5rLsNkx7LeI2GhLlQ4X">Kowalski Catch-Up Playlist</a> on Spotify</p><p>Preorder Andrea's new book <a href="https://read.macmillan.com/lp/the-mother-next-door-9781250284273/">The Mother Next Door: Medicine, Deception, and Munchausen by Proxy. </a></p><p>﻿Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening helps us keep making the show!</p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content.</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S03 E18: What Jack Knew</title>
      <description>As we prepare to launch Season Four next month, we’re revisiting the subject of Season Three—the landmark Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins All Children’s verdict, in which a jury awarded Jack Kowalski more than $200 million dollars in damages following the suicide of his wife Beata while their daughter Maya Kowalski was in state custody because a medical child abuse investigation. Though the media has been largely sympathetic to Kowalski’s case—thanks in large part to the popular Netflix film “Take Care of Maya”—our exploration continues to reveal that nothing about this story is what is seems. 
With the case headed towards appeal, we take a closer look at newly released information about what was going on with the Kowalski family, as well as how this verdict is affecting mandatory reporting and the safety of children in pediatric hospitals all around the country.  
* * *
Get up to speed on the Kowalski case with our Kowalski Catch-Up Playlist on Spotify   
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 
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To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. 
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2024 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>As we prepare to launch Season Four next month, we’re revisiting the subject of Season Three—the landmark Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins All Children’s verdict.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>As we prepare to launch Season Four next month, we’re revisiting the subject of Season Three—the landmark Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins All Children’s verdict, in which a jury awarded Jack Kowalski more than $200 million dollars in damages following the suicide of his wife Beata while their daughter Maya Kowalski was in state custody because a medical child abuse investigation. Though the media has been largely sympathetic to Kowalski’s case—thanks in large part to the popular Netflix film “Take Care of Maya”—our exploration continues to reveal that nothing about this story is what is seems. 
With the case headed towards appeal, we take a closer look at newly released information about what was going on with the Kowalski family, as well as how this verdict is affecting mandatory reporting and the safety of children in pediatric hospitals all around the country.  
* * *
Get up to speed on the Kowalski case with our Kowalski Catch-Up Playlist on Spotify   
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Subscribe on YouTube where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. 
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea's books here. 
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. 
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>As we prepare to launch Season Four next month, we’re revisiting the subject of Season Three—the landmark Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins All Children’s verdict, in which a jury awarded Jack Kowalski more than $200 million dollars in damages following the suicide of his wife Beata while their daughter Maya Kowalski was in state custody because a medical child abuse investigation. Though the media has been largely sympathetic to Kowalski’s case—thanks in large part to the popular Netflix film “Take Care of Maya”—our exploration continues to reveal that nothing about this story is what is seems. </p><p>With the case headed towards appeal, we take a closer look at newly released information about what was going on with the Kowalski family, as well as how this verdict is affecting mandatory reporting and the safety of children in pediatric hospitals all around the country.  </p><p>* * *</p><p>Get up to speed on the Kowalski case with our <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0tU5rLsNkx7LeI2GhLlQ4X">Kowalski Catch-Up Playlist</a> on Spotify   </p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p>Subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@NobodyShouldBelieveMePod">YouTube</a> where we have full episodes and lots of bonus content. </p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop </a></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>. </p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://www.patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content. </p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com </a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Cons, Scams, and Adventures in Podcasting with Roberta Blevins and Terra Newell</title>
      <description>On this week's episode, Andrea is joined by Roberta Blevins, creator and host of the Life After MLM podcast, and Terra Newell, who was featured in mega-hit Dirty John podcast and has since created and hosts Terra's Baddy Club. The audience gets to listen in as these three women talk about about the pros and cons of having a personal connection to the topics of their podcasts, how that affects their coverage of the topic, and the intersection between Munchausen by proxy, MLMs, and domestic violence. *Special thanks for Spotify, who provided recording support for this episode! 
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Listen to Life After MLM.
Follow Roberta on Instagram.
Listen to Dirty John.
Listen to Terra's Baddy Club.
Follow Terra on Instagram.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com
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      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Apr 2024 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>On this week's episode, Andrea is joined by Roberta Blevins, creator and host of the Life After MLM podcast, and Terra Newell, who was featured in mega-hit Dirty John podcast and has since created and hosts Terra's Baddy Club. The audience gets to listen in as these three women talk about about the pros and cons of having a personal connection to the topics of their podcasts, how that affects their coverage of the topic, and the intersection between Munchausen by proxy, MLMs, and domestic violence. *Special thanks for Spotify, who provided recording support for this episode! 
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Listen to Life After MLM.
Follow Roberta on Instagram.
Listen to Dirty John.
Listen to Terra's Baddy Club.
Follow Terra on Instagram.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com
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Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
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        <![CDATA[<p>On this week's episode, Andrea is joined by Roberta Blevins, creator and host of the Life After MLM podcast, and Terra Newell, who was featured in mega-hit Dirty John podcast and has since created and hosts Terra's Baddy Club. The audience gets to listen in as these three women talk about about the pros and cons of having a personal connection to the topics of their podcasts, how that affects their coverage of the topic, and the intersection between Munchausen by proxy, MLMs, and domestic violence. *Special thanks for Spotify, who provided recording support for this episode! </p><p>* * *</p><p>Listen to <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1KQP3qxNBjyUfgJhNCcs8f">Life After MLM.</a></p><p>Follow Roberta on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/therealrobertablevins/?hl=en">Instagram</a>.</p><p>Listen to <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1Da3FTjfC4Oy9rrhs1xLz5">Dirty John</a>.</p><p>Listen to <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/71a7jmlirvtV3F4sHiwVVs">Terra's Baddy Club</a>.</p><p>Follow Terra on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/terranewell/">Instagram</a>.</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://www.patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p>To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit <a href="http://munchausen.com/">Munchausen.com</a></p><p>* * *</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2559</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Unabridged Conversation with Hope Ybarra</title>
      <description>Listen to an episode we're releasing from our subscriber vault -- Andrea's full conversation with Hope Ybarra, whose story we've been revisiting in our look back at season one of the show. This conversation gives listeners a peek into the mind of a perpetrator and inspired the name of the show "Nobody Should Believe Me".
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Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com
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Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 18 Apr 2024 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Listen to an episode we're releasing from our subscriber vault -- Andrea's full conversation with Hope Ybarra, whose story we've been revisiting in our look back at season one of the show. This conversation gives listeners a peek into the mind of a perpetrator and inspired the name of the show "Nobody Should Believe Me".
* * *
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com
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Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Listen to an episode we're releasing from our subscriber vault -- Andrea's full conversation with Hope Ybarra, whose story we've been revisiting in our look back at season one of the show. This conversation gives listeners a peek into the mind of a perpetrator and inspired the name of the show "Nobody Should Believe Me".</p><p>* * *</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://www.patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p>To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit <a href="http://munchausen.com/">Munchausen.com</a></p><p>* * *</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Revisiting Season One: There's Hope (Season One Finale)</title>
      <description>In the final episode of our look back at season one, Andrea reflects on her experience interviewing Hope Ybarra, how it impacted her in regards to her sister, and audience reactions to the conversation.
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Andrea has made an intense connection with Hope Ybarra's family, and asked experts, doctors, and the detective so many of her burning questions about Munchausen by Proxy. But she's become increasingly fixated on talking to Hope herself as she comes to realize that it may be her only chance to get the insights she needs. In this stunning season one finale, Andrea travels to Mountain Home, Idaho, to meet with Hope Ybarra.
In this intense, emotional back-and-forth, we hear straight from Hope what life is like for her after being released from prison. We find out what she's up to and what she hopes for from the future. Hope listens to her own family—all of whom she's estranged from with the exception of Robin—talk about what she was like before everything fell apart. She insists that she still loves her children, despite what she did. We see the human being behind the monstrous acts that splashed Hope's story across headlines and landed her in prison for a decade.
Andrea asks Hope what might have been done to help her and what she might say to her younger self if she could go back. Finally, she tells Hope that if she really wants her family back, she should get treatment and offers to help her if she wants that.
Hope is friendly and warm in person, but Andrea is left with the unsettling truth that she hasn't changed.
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Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com
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Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2024 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/d666382c-f785-11ee-bcb3-87df45ad175c/image/de198ad4311fa146fac01e8926b9b1bf.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
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      <itunes:summary>In the final episode of our look back at season one, Andrea reflects on her experience interviewing Hope Ybarra, how it impacted her in regards to her sister, and audience reactions to the conversation.
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Andrea has made an intense connection with Hope Ybarra's family, and asked experts, doctors, and the detective so many of her burning questions about Munchausen by Proxy. But she's become increasingly fixated on talking to Hope herself as she comes to realize that it may be her only chance to get the insights she needs. In this stunning season one finale, Andrea travels to Mountain Home, Idaho, to meet with Hope Ybarra.
In this intense, emotional back-and-forth, we hear straight from Hope what life is like for her after being released from prison. We find out what she's up to and what she hopes for from the future. Hope listens to her own family—all of whom she's estranged from with the exception of Robin—talk about what she was like before everything fell apart. She insists that she still loves her children, despite what she did. We see the human being behind the monstrous acts that splashed Hope's story across headlines and landed her in prison for a decade.
Andrea asks Hope what might have been done to help her and what she might say to her younger self if she could go back. Finally, she tells Hope that if she really wants her family back, she should get treatment and offers to help her if she wants that.
Hope is friendly and warm in person, but Andrea is left with the unsettling truth that she hasn't changed.
* * *
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com
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Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the final episode of our look back at season one, Andrea reflects on her experience interviewing Hope Ybarra, how it impacted her in regards to her sister, and audience reactions to the conversation.</p><p>* * *</p><p>Andrea has made an intense connection with Hope Ybarra's family, and asked experts, doctors, and the detective so many of her burning questions about Munchausen by Proxy. But she's become increasingly fixated on talking to Hope herself as she comes to realize that it may be her only chance to get the insights she needs. In this stunning season one finale, Andrea travels to Mountain Home, Idaho, to meet with Hope Ybarra.</p><p>In this intense, emotional back-and-forth, we hear straight from Hope what life is like for her after being released from prison. We find out what she's up to and what she hopes for from the future. Hope listens to her own family—all of whom she's estranged from with the exception of Robin—talk about what she was like before everything fell apart. She insists that she still loves her children, despite what she did. We see the human being behind the monstrous acts that splashed Hope's story across headlines and landed her in prison for a decade.</p><p>Andrea asks Hope what might have been done to help her and what she might say to her younger self if she could go back. Finally, she tells Hope that if she really wants her family back, she should get treatment and offers to help her if she wants that.</p><p>Hope is friendly and warm in person, but Andrea is left with the unsettling truth that she hasn't changed.</p><p>* * *</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://www.patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p>To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit <a href="https://www.munchausen.com/">Munchausen.com</a></p><p>* * *</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2701</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Revisiting Season One: Can They Be Saved?</title>
      <description>After a look back at season 1 episode 7, Can They Be Saved?, Andrea reflects on how her thoughts regarding the psychopathology of Munchausen by Proxy has evolved over the years, as she has spoken to experts, survivors, and perpetrators of this abuse.
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Andrea delves deep into her questions around the psychopathology of Munchausen by Proxy perpetrators. Floored by the similarities in the many cases she’s researched, she talks to two of the world's foremost experts on the disorder—Dr. Marc Feldman and Dr. Mary Sanders—about the characteristics, warning signs, and causes of the disorder that has upended the lives of so many people Andrea has spoken to throughout the course of the podcast. Why would a mother ever do this? What do they get from it? And most importantly, what could be done to stop them? Is it possible for someone who does these things to get treatment?
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Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andredunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com
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Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2024 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/5d3af82e-f128-11ee-a5b5-1f86dd51c349/image/de198ad4311fa146fac01e8926b9b1bf.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>After a look back at season 1 episode 7, Can They Be Saved?, Andrea reflects on how her thoughts regarding the psychopathology of Munchausen by Proxy has evolved over the years, as she has spoken to experts, survivors, and perpetrators of this abuse.
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Andrea delves deep into her questions around the psychopathology of Munchausen by Proxy perpetrators. Floored by the similarities in the many cases she’s researched, she talks to two of the world's foremost experts on the disorder—Dr. Marc Feldman and Dr. Mary Sanders—about the characteristics, warning signs, and causes of the disorder that has upended the lives of so many people Andrea has spoken to throughout the course of the podcast. Why would a mother ever do this? What do they get from it? And most importantly, what could be done to stop them? Is it possible for someone who does these things to get treatment?
* * *
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andredunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com
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Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>After a look back at season 1 episode 7, <em>Can They Be Saved?, </em>Andrea reflects on how her thoughts regarding the psychopathology of Munchausen by Proxy has evolved over the years, as she has spoken to experts, survivors, and perpetrators of this abuse.</p><p>* * *</p><p>Andrea delves deep into her questions around the psychopathology of Munchausen by Proxy perpetrators. Floored by the similarities in the many cases she’s researched, she talks to two of the world's foremost experts on the disorder—Dr. Marc Feldman and Dr. Mary Sanders—about the characteristics, warning signs, and causes of the disorder that has upended the lives of so many people Andrea has spoken to throughout the course of the podcast. Why would a mother ever do this? What do they get from it? And most importantly, what could be done to stop them? Is it possible for someone who does these things to get treatment?</p><p>* * *</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andredunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://www.patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p>To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit <a href="https://www.munchausen.com/">Munchausen.com</a></p><p>* * *</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Revisiting Season One: Sisters Surviving</title>
      <description>During this look back at the 6th episode of our first season, we hear the story of twin sisters who survived Munchausen by Proxy at the hands of their foster mother. At the end of the episode, we get a visit from very special guest, Erica Blake (then Handt), one of the sisters we interviewed almost 3 years ago. Andrea reconnects with her to chat about life since that interview.
***
As Andrea contemplates what the future looks like for survivors of Munchausen by Proxy, she gets an unexpected message from two young women who’ve lived it. After appearing with Marc Feldman on a podcast, Andrea hears from twin-sisters who survived MBP.
Liz and Erica Handt were taken from one terrifying situation to another when the foster mom who adopted them turns out to be abusive, telling the girls they had Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and dragging them from specialist to specialist. The twins' story is harrowing but ultimately hopeful as they're now thriving.
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Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andredunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com
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      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Mar 2024 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>During this look back at the 6th episode of our first season, we hear the story of twin sisters who survived Munchausen by Proxy at the hands of their foster mother. At the end of the episode, we get a visit from very special guest, Erica Blake (then Handt), one of the sisters we interviewed almost 3 years ago. Andrea reconnects with her to chat about life since that interview.
***
As Andrea contemplates what the future looks like for survivors of Munchausen by Proxy, she gets an unexpected message from two young women who’ve lived it. After appearing with Marc Feldman on a podcast, Andrea hears from twin-sisters who survived MBP.
Liz and Erica Handt were taken from one terrifying situation to another when the foster mom who adopted them turns out to be abusive, telling the girls they had Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and dragging them from specialist to specialist. The twins' story is harrowing but ultimately hopeful as they're now thriving.
* * *
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andredunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com
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Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>During this look back at the 6th episode of our first season, we hear the story of twin sisters who survived Munchausen by Proxy at the hands of their foster mother. At the end of the episode, we get a visit from very special guest, Erica Blake (then Handt), one of the sisters we interviewed almost 3 years ago. Andrea reconnects with her to chat about life since that interview.</p><p>***</p><p>As Andrea contemplates what the future looks like for survivors of Munchausen by Proxy, she gets an unexpected message from two young women who’ve lived it. After appearing with Marc Feldman on a podcast, Andrea hears from twin-sisters who survived MBP.</p><p>Liz and Erica Handt were taken from one terrifying situation to another when the foster mom who adopted them turns out to be abusive, telling the girls they had Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and dragging them from specialist to specialist. The twins' story is harrowing but ultimately hopeful as they're now thriving.</p><p>* * *</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andredunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://www.patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p>To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit <a href="https://www.munchausen.com/">Munchausen.com</a></p><p>* * *</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Revisiting Season One: Nobody Would Believe Me: Dads Part 2</title>
      <description>This is the 5th episode of our look back at season one of the show. We revisit Andrea's conversation with two more dads who were a part of Munchausen by Proxy cases. At the end of the episode, Andrea gives a brief update on one of the dads and shares her thoughts on how gender roles play into these cases and why such a high percentage of offenders are women.
***
As we learn from Detective Mike Weber, the father in a Munchausen by Proxy case can be the most important ally--or the biggest obstacle--in protecting child victims from abuse. In part two of Andrea’s examination of the father’s role in MBP cases, Andrea speaks to “John”, a father devastated but the revelation that his ex-wife had subjected their son to unnecessary brain surgery. We also talk to Ryan Crawford, a man who found himself fighting for his son’s life against a disbelieving system.
Plus we get a stunning real-time update on one of our cases as “John” decides to come forward with his true identity. You can listen to the follow-up interview with him here.
* * *
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andredunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com
More about Ryan Crawford's story: https://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2019/august/the-boy-who-stayed-sick/
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      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Mar 2024 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>This is the 5th episode of our look back at season one of the show. We revisit Andrea's conversation with two more dads who were a part of Munchausen by Proxy cases. At the end of the episode, Andrea gives a brief update on one of the dads and shares her thoughts on how gender roles play into these cases and why such a high percentage of offenders are women.
***
As we learn from Detective Mike Weber, the father in a Munchausen by Proxy case can be the most important ally--or the biggest obstacle--in protecting child victims from abuse. In part two of Andrea’s examination of the father’s role in MBP cases, Andrea speaks to “John”, a father devastated but the revelation that his ex-wife had subjected their son to unnecessary brain surgery. We also talk to Ryan Crawford, a man who found himself fighting for his son’s life against a disbelieving system.
Plus we get a stunning real-time update on one of our cases as “John” decides to come forward with his true identity. You can listen to the follow-up interview with him here.
* * *
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andredunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com
More about Ryan Crawford's story: https://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2019/august/the-boy-who-stayed-sick/
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        <![CDATA[<p>This is the 5th episode of our look back at season one of the show. We revisit Andrea's conversation with two more dads who were a part of Munchausen by Proxy cases. At the end of the episode, Andrea gives a brief update on one of the dads and shares her thoughts on how gender roles play into these cases and why such a high percentage of offenders are women.</p><p>***</p><p>As we learn from Detective Mike Weber, the father in a Munchausen by Proxy case can be the most important ally--or the biggest obstacle--in protecting child victims from abuse. In part two of Andrea’s examination of the father’s role in MBP cases, Andrea speaks to “John”, a father devastated but the revelation that his ex-wife had subjected their son to unnecessary brain surgery. We also talk to Ryan Crawford, a man who found himself fighting for his son’s life against a disbelieving system.</p><p>Plus we get a stunning real-time update on one of our cases as “John” decides to come forward with his true identity. You can listen to the follow-up interview with him <a href="https://pod.link/1615637188/episode/9af3b2501bb6f87d2fef34ba1850b964">here</a>.</p><p>* * *</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andredunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's books <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://www.patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p>To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com</p><p>More about Ryan Crawford's story: <a href="https://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2019/august/the-boy-who-stayed-sick/">https://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2019/august/the-boy-who-stayed-sick/</a></p><p>* * *</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3616</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Unabridged Conversation with Dr. Jessica Pryce </title>
      <description>Andrea connects with Dr. Jessica Pryce, an expert on the frontlines of child wellfare work, research, and reform. She talks to Andrea about her book, Broken: Transforming Child Protective Services, the child welfare system as a whole, and how her work applies to the needs of children and families affected by Munchausen by Proxy.
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Learn more about Dr. Jessica Pryce here.
Purchase Broken: Transforming Child Protective Services here.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andredunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com
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Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2024 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/8a41030e-e601-11ee-8470-7f37416025f8/image/de198ad4311fa146fac01e8926b9b1bf.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
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      <itunes:summary>Andrea connects with Dr. Jessica Pryce, an expert on the frontlines of child wellfare work, research, and reform. She talks to Andrea about her book, Broken: Transforming Child Protective Services, the child welfare system as a whole, and how her work applies to the needs of children and families affected by Munchausen by Proxy.
* * *
Learn more about Dr. Jessica Pryce here.
Purchase Broken: Transforming Child Protective Services here.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andredunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com
* * *
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Andrea connects with Dr. Jessica Pryce, an expert on the frontlines of child wellfare work, research, and reform. She talks to Andrea about her book, <em>Broken: Transforming Child Protective Services</em>, the child welfare system as a whole, and how her work applies to the needs of children and families affected by Munchausen by Proxy.</p><p>* * *</p><p>Learn more about Dr. Jessica Pryce <a href="https://jessicaprycephd.com/">here</a>.</p><p>Purchase <em>Broken: Transforming Child Protective Services </em><a href="https://jessicaprycephd.com/publications">here</a><em>.</em></p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andredunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p>To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit <a href="https://www.munchausen.com/">Munchausen.com</a></p><p>* * *</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Revisiting Season One: Nobody Would Believe Me: Dads Part 1</title>
      <description>During this re-aired episode, we revisit our conversation with 2 fathers affected by Munchausen by Proxy. At the end of the episode, we reconnect with George Hunnicut to discuss how life has been for him and his children after speaking to us on the show two years ago.
***
As we learn from Detective Mike Weber, the father in a Munchausen by Proxy case can be the most important ally--or the biggest obstacle--in protecting child victims from abuse. We learn more about how Andrea’s own family became divided during the first investigation into her sister and we meet George Hunnicut, a veteran who discovered his young wife was abusing their infant son and found himself up against a system that had no idea what to do for him.
* * *
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andredunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com
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Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
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      <pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2024 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/cff3e6d4-e181-11ee-95f5-2b76334582a8/image/de198ad4311fa146fac01e8926b9b1bf.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>During this re-aired episode, we revisit our conversation with 2 fathers affected by Munchausen by Proxy. At the end of the episode, we reconnect with George Hunnicut to discuss how life has been for him and his children after speaking to us on the show two years ago.
***
As we learn from Detective Mike Weber, the father in a Munchausen by Proxy case can be the most important ally--or the biggest obstacle--in protecting child victims from abuse. We learn more about how Andrea’s own family became divided during the first investigation into her sister and we meet George Hunnicut, a veteran who discovered his young wife was abusing their infant son and found himself up against a system that had no idea what to do for him.
* * *
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andredunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com
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Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
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        <![CDATA[<p>During this re-aired episode, we revisit our conversation with 2 fathers affected by Munchausen by Proxy. At the end of the episode, we reconnect with George Hunnicut to discuss how life has been for him and his children after speaking to us on the show two years ago.</p><p>***</p><p>As we learn from Detective Mike Weber, the father in a Munchausen by Proxy case can be the most important ally--or the biggest obstacle--in protecting child victims from abuse. We learn more about how Andrea’s own family became divided during the first investigation into her sister and we meet George Hunnicut, a veteran who discovered his young wife was abusing their infant son and found himself up against a system that had no idea what to do for him.</p><p>* * *</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andredunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p>To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit <a href="https://www.munchausen.com/">Munchausen.com</a></p><p>* * *</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Revisiting Season One: What's in the Water in Tarrant County?</title>
      <description>We take a look back at the third episode of the show. At the end of the episode, we catch up with Detective Mike Weber, friend of the show and expert in the investigation of Medical Child Abuse.
***
Andrea speaks to Deanna Boyd, the crime reporter who broke the Hope Ybarra case and discovers that Hope's was one of many Munchausen By Proxy cases in Tarrant County that Deanna unearthed; all of which had flown under the radar. What's going on here? Why are there so many cases in this one area?
As Andrea interviews Deanna and meets with Detective Mike Weber, as well as Dr. Jayme Coffman and Dr. Karen Shultz--two doctors involved with the Ybarra and many other MBP cases--she makes a chilling discovery. It's not that there are so many cases in Tarrant County, it's just that they're catching them. If the systems meant to protect children were functioning, every county would look like Tarrant.
Andrea can only guess as to what truly went on behind the scenes in her own family's case, but she begins to grasp what the systems involved--CPS, the police, the doctors--are up against and why so many cases are destined to fail. Meanwhile, Andrea continues her maddening back-and-forth with Hope.
* * *
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andredunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com
* * *
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      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Mar 2024 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>We take a look back at the third episode of the show. At the end of the episode, we catch up with Detective Mike Weber, friend of the show and expert in the investigation of Medical Child Abuse.
***
Andrea speaks to Deanna Boyd, the crime reporter who broke the Hope Ybarra case and discovers that Hope's was one of many Munchausen By Proxy cases in Tarrant County that Deanna unearthed; all of which had flown under the radar. What's going on here? Why are there so many cases in this one area?
As Andrea interviews Deanna and meets with Detective Mike Weber, as well as Dr. Jayme Coffman and Dr. Karen Shultz--two doctors involved with the Ybarra and many other MBP cases--she makes a chilling discovery. It's not that there are so many cases in Tarrant County, it's just that they're catching them. If the systems meant to protect children were functioning, every county would look like Tarrant.
Andrea can only guess as to what truly went on behind the scenes in her own family's case, but she begins to grasp what the systems involved--CPS, the police, the doctors--are up against and why so many cases are destined to fail. Meanwhile, Andrea continues her maddening back-and-forth with Hope.
* * *
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andredunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com
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Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We take a look back at the third episode of the show. At the end of the episode, we catch up with Detective Mike Weber, friend of the show and expert in the investigation of Medical Child Abuse.</p><p>***</p><p>Andrea speaks to Deanna Boyd, the crime reporter who broke the Hope Ybarra case and discovers that Hope's was one of many Munchausen By Proxy cases in Tarrant County that Deanna unearthed; all of which had flown under the radar. What's going on here? Why are there so many cases in this one area?</p><p>As Andrea interviews Deanna and meets with Detective Mike Weber, as well as Dr. Jayme Coffman and Dr. Karen Shultz--two doctors involved with the Ybarra and many other MBP cases--she makes a chilling discovery. It's not that there are so many cases in Tarrant County, it's just that they're catching them. If the systems meant to protect children were functioning, every county would look like Tarrant.</p><p>Andrea can only guess as to what truly went on behind the scenes in her own family's case, but she begins to grasp what the systems involved--CPS, the police, the doctors--are up against and why so many cases are destined to fail. Meanwhile, Andrea continues her maddening back-and-forth with Hope.</p><p>* * *</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andredunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://www.patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nobody-should-believe-me/id1615637188?ign-itscg=30200S&amp;ign-itsct=larjmedia_podcasts">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p>To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit <a href="https://www.munchausen.com/">Munchausen.com</a></p><p>* * *</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>5124</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Revisiting Season One: Who is Hope?</title>
      <description>We take a look back at the second episode of the show. Stay tuned to hear Andrea share the story of how the show almost didn't air and what she learned from it. 
To learn more details about Andrea's sister's case, check out "Megan".  
***
We delve deeper into the story of Hope Ybarra, a young mother whose family discovers she’s been faking her eight-year-long battle with terminal cancer and begins to suspect her own health isn’t all she’s lying about. We talk more to Hope’s family and her ex-husband Fabian Ybarra about their efforts to unravel Hope’s many sinister deceptions.
We meet Detective Mike Weber, who was responsible for investigating Hope Ybarra, an early foray into what would become the main focus of his career: Munchausen by Proxy.
* * *
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to  Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com
* * *
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Feb 2024 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Revisiting Season One: Who is Hope?</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>We take a look back at the second episode of the show. Stay tuned to hear Andrea share the story of how the show almost didn't air and what she learned from it.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We take a look back at the second episode of the show. Stay tuned to hear Andrea share the story of how the show almost didn't air and what she learned from it. 
To learn more details about Andrea's sister's case, check out "Megan".  
***
We delve deeper into the story of Hope Ybarra, a young mother whose family discovers she’s been faking her eight-year-long battle with terminal cancer and begins to suspect her own health isn’t all she’s lying about. We talk more to Hope’s family and her ex-husband Fabian Ybarra about their efforts to unravel Hope’s many sinister deceptions.
We meet Detective Mike Weber, who was responsible for investigating Hope Ybarra, an early foray into what would become the main focus of his career: Munchausen by Proxy.
* * *
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to  Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com
* * *
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We take a look back at the second episode of the show. Stay tuned to hear Andrea share the story of how the show almost didn't air and what she learned from it. </p><p>To learn more details about Andrea's sister's case, check out <a href="https://pod.link/1615637188/episode/89b1891a4ba6f857cadc01daed2aac3e">"Megan". </a> </p><p>***</p><p>We delve deeper into the story of Hope Ybarra, a young mother whose family discovers she’s been faking her eight-year-long battle with terminal cancer and begins to suspect her own health isn’t all she’s lying about. We talk more to Hope’s family and her ex-husband Fabian Ybarra about their efforts to unravel Hope’s many sinister deceptions.</p><p>We meet Detective Mike Weber, who was responsible for investigating Hope Ybarra, an early foray into what would become the main focus of his career: Munchausen by Proxy.</p><p>* * *</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://www.patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe"> Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p>To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit <a href="https://www.munchausen.com/">Munchausen.com</a></p><p>* * *</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2889</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Revisiting Season One: Sisters </title>
      <description>We're going back to the beginning with an extended version of our very first episode! Be sure to stay tuned until the end for a special postscript with Andrea as she gives a behind-the-scenes look at how this show began. 
***
We meet accomplished novelist and loving mother Andrea Dunlop as she embarks on a journey to understand the series of events that tore her family apart. We learn that her older sister has been investigated twice for Munchausen by Proxy abuse, which inspired Andrea to learn everything she could about this complex and misunderstood issue. We see Andrea become captivated by the story of Hope Ybarra and go along with her to meet Hope’s father, sister, and brother: the first people Andrea has ever spoken to who’ve actually lived through a case. But can anything prepare Andrea for the truth?

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
 
If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag @andreadunlop, email hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 
 Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
*** 
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      <pubDate>Thu, 22 Feb 2024 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Revisiting Season One: Sisters </itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/c766dad6-d118-11ee-9723-57be7f6ea469/image/de198ad4311fa146fac01e8926b9b1bf.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We're going back to the beginning with an extended version of our very first episode that contains new footage at the end of the show.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We're going back to the beginning with an extended version of our very first episode! Be sure to stay tuned until the end for a special postscript with Andrea as she gives a behind-the-scenes look at how this show began. 
***
We meet accomplished novelist and loving mother Andrea Dunlop as she embarks on a journey to understand the series of events that tore her family apart. We learn that her older sister has been investigated twice for Munchausen by Proxy abuse, which inspired Andrea to learn everything she could about this complex and misunderstood issue. We see Andrea become captivated by the story of Hope Ybarra and go along with her to meet Hope’s father, sister, and brother: the first people Andrea has ever spoken to who’ve actually lived through a case. But can anything prepare Andrea for the truth?

Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
 
If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag @andreadunlop, email hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 
 Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
*** 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We're going back to the beginning with an extended version of our very first episode! Be sure to stay tuned until the end for a special postscript with Andrea as she gives a behind-the-scenes look at how this show began. </p><p>***</p><p>We meet accomplished novelist and loving mother Andrea Dunlop as she embarks on a journey to understand the series of events that tore her family apart. We learn that her older sister has been investigated twice for Munchausen by Proxy abuse, which inspired Andrea to learn everything she could about this complex and misunderstood issue. We see Andrea become captivated by the story of Hope Ybarra and go along with her to meet Hope’s father, sister, and brother: the first people Andrea has ever spoken to who’ve actually lived through a case. But can anything prepare Andrea for the truth?</p><p><br></p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop,</a> email <a href="mailto:hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com">hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com</a> or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 </p><p> Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>. </p><p>Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. </p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>. </p><p>*** </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2545</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Unabridged interview with Patrick (son of Dr. Sally Smith) </title>
      <description>In this bonus episode you’ll hear host Andrea Dunlop's full interview with Dr. Sally Smith’s son, Patrick. They discuss the impact of the slanted and sensationalized media coverage of Dr. Sally Smith’s work on him and his family. Patrick shares his pride in his mother's career as well as fears over the impact of the media coverage and the verdict in the Kowalski case.  
The full unbridged interview with Dr. Sally Smith will be available to subscribers.  
In the meantime, we are hard at work on season 4, stay tuned and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.  
***
Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at www.munchausensupport.com  
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag @andreadunlop, email hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
*** 
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Feb 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this bonus episode you’ll hear host Andrea Dunlop's full interview with Dr. Sally Smith’s son, Patrick. They discuss the impact of the slanted and sensationalized media coverage of Dr. Sally Smith’s work on him and his family. Patrick shares his pride in his mother's career as well as fears over the impact of the media coverage and the verdict in the Kowalski case.  
The full unbridged interview with Dr. Sally Smith will be available to subscribers.  
In the meantime, we are hard at work on season 4, stay tuned and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.  
***
Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at www.munchausensupport.com  
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag @andreadunlop, email hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
*** 
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this bonus episode you’ll hear host Andrea Dunlop's full interview with Dr. Sally Smith’s son, Patrick. They discuss the impact of the slanted and sensationalized media coverage of Dr. Sally Smith’s work on him and his family. Patrick shares his pride in his mother's career as well as fears over the impact of the media coverage and the verdict in the Kowalski case.  </p><p>The full unbridged interview with Dr. Sally Smith will be available to subscribers.  </p><p>In the meantime, we are hard at work on season 4, stay tuned and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.  </p><p>***</p><p>Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at <a href="http://www.munchausensupport.com/">www.munchausensupport.com</a>  </p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p>If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop,</a> email <a href="mailto:hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com">hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com</a> or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 </p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>. </p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>. </p><p>*** </p><p>Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Unbridged interview with Ethen Shapiro  </title>
      <description>In this bonus episode you’ll hear host Andrea Dunlop's full interview with Ethen Shapiro, lead attorney for John Hopkins All Childrens Hospital. Shapiro offers shocking insights into the trial and the media coverage of the Kowalski case, as well as what’s next for the defense team.  
We are hard at work on season 4, stay tuned and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.  
***
Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at www.munchausensupport.com  
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag @andreadunlop, email hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
***
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Feb 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this bonus episode you’ll hear host Andrea Dunlop's full interview with Ethen Shapiro, lead attorney for John Hopkins All Childrens Hospital. Shapiro offers shocking insights into the trial and the media coverage of the Kowalski case, as well as what’s next for the defense team.  
We are hard at work on season 4, stay tuned and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.  
***
Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at www.munchausensupport.com  
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag @andreadunlop, email hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
***
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this bonus episode you’ll hear host Andrea Dunlop's full interview with Ethen Shapiro, lead attorney for John Hopkins All Childrens Hospital. Shapiro offers shocking insights into the trial and the media coverage of the Kowalski case, as well as what’s next for the defense team.  </p><p>We are hard at work on season 4, stay tuned and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.  </p><p>***</p><p>Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at <a href="http://www.munchausensupport.com/">www.munchausensupport.com</a>  </p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p>If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop,</a> email <a href="mailto:hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com">hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com</a> or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 </p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>. </p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>. </p><p>***</p><p>Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Unbridged interview with Detective Mike Weber  </title>
      <description>In this bonus episode you’ll hear host Andrea Dunlop's full interview with friend of the show Detective Mike Weber.  
Mike—who wrote the FBI guidelines on investigating medical child abuse—digs into the police report about Maya Kowalski and helps Andrea put it in context, revealing the serious and disturbing nature of the case.  
NOTE: We recorded this interview in September before the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens trial, so information revealed during the trial will not be reflected.  
***
More about Mike Weber: https://mikeweberconsulting.com/  
Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at www.munchausensupport.com  
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag @andreadunlop, email hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
*** 
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this bonus episode you’ll hear host Andrea Dunlop's full interview with friend of the show Detective Mike Weber.  
Mike—who wrote the FBI guidelines on investigating medical child abuse—digs into the police report about Maya Kowalski and helps Andrea put it in context, revealing the serious and disturbing nature of the case.  
NOTE: We recorded this interview in September before the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens trial, so information revealed during the trial will not be reflected.  
***
More about Mike Weber: https://mikeweberconsulting.com/  
Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at www.munchausensupport.com  
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag @andreadunlop, email hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
*** 
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this bonus episode you’ll hear host Andrea Dunlop's full interview with friend of the show Detective Mike Weber.  </p><p>Mike—who wrote the FBI guidelines on investigating medical child abuse—digs into the police report about Maya Kowalski and helps Andrea put it in context, revealing the serious and disturbing nature of the case.  </p><p>NOTE: We recorded this interview in September before the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens trial, so information revealed during the trial will not be reflected.  </p><p>***</p><p>More about Mike Weber: <a href="https://mikeweberconsulting.com/">https://mikeweberconsulting.com/</a>  </p><p>Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at <a href="http://www.munchausensupport.com/">www.munchausensupport.com</a>  </p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p>If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop,</a> email <a href="mailto:hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com">hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com</a> or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 </p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>. </p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>. </p><p>*** </p><p>Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S03 E17: Dangerous Women (Season Finale: Part 3)  </title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/dangerous-women-season-finale-part-3/</link>
      <description>In the third and final installment of our exclusive interview with Dr. Sally Smith, she shares her side of what happened in the Maya Kowalski case, revealing how perilous Maya’s situation truly was when she originally arrived at Johns Hopkins All Childrens in October of 2016.  
Dr. Sally Smith also reveals, for the first time, the details of the multi-million-dollar settlement with the Kowalski family and shares the impact that this case could have on medical providers and abused children going forward.  
And finally Dr. Sally Smith disclosess her concerns and her hopes for Maya and Kyle Kowalski—the two children thrust into the national spotlight by their father’s lawsuit—and lastly, her reflections on the work she’s devoted her life to.  
***
Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at www.munchausensupport.com  
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag @andreadunlop, email hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
*** 
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2365ecce-b4b2-11ee-a98f-8332660ce30b/image/3c25cbc3c07a42b9b44462c43cbdbf75.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
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      <itunes:summary>In the third and final installment of our exclusive interview with Dr. Sally Smith, she shares her side of what happened in the Maya Kowalski case, revealing how perilous Maya’s situation truly was when she originally arrived at Johns Hopkins All Childrens in October of 2016.  
Dr. Sally Smith also reveals, for the first time, the details of the multi-million-dollar settlement with the Kowalski family and shares the impact that this case could have on medical providers and abused children going forward.  
And finally Dr. Sally Smith disclosess her concerns and her hopes for Maya and Kyle Kowalski—the two children thrust into the national spotlight by their father’s lawsuit—and lastly, her reflections on the work she’s devoted her life to.  
***
Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at www.munchausensupport.com  
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag @andreadunlop, email hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
*** 
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the third and final installment of our exclusive interview with Dr. Sally Smith, she shares her side of what happened in the Maya Kowalski case, revealing how perilous Maya’s situation truly was when she originally arrived at Johns Hopkins All Childrens in October of 2016.  </p><p>Dr. Sally Smith also reveals, for the first time, the details of the multi-million-dollar settlement with the Kowalski family and shares the impact that this case could have on medical providers and abused children going forward.  </p><p>And finally Dr. Sally Smith disclosess her concerns and her hopes for Maya and Kyle Kowalski—the two children thrust into the national spotlight by their father’s lawsuit—and lastly, her reflections on the work she’s devoted her life to.  </p><p>***</p><p>Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at <a href="http://www.munchausensupport.com/">www.munchausensupport.com</a>  </p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p>If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop,</a> email <a href="mailto:hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com">hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com</a> or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 </p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>. </p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>. </p><p>*** </p><p>Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S03 E16: Bad Press (Season Finale: Part 2)  </title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/bad-press-season-finale-part-2/</link>
      <description>In the second part of our exclusive interview with Dr. Sally Smith, we discuss how the media coverage of her reached a fever pitch and turned her life and career upside down. We explore how not only the Netflix film but a high-profile piece in New York Magazine rewrote the narrative of the Kowalski case and Dr. Smith’s involvement to cast her as a villain. 
We unpack the stories of the four other families in the Netflix film—featured as examples of “false allegations” made by Dr. Smith—and uncover the more complicated truth about what happened to the children involved. 
We hear from Dr. Smith about how the media has stoked outrage and real-life threats and harassment against her, her coworkers, and her family. 
We see the horrifying truth that what happened to Dr. Sally Smith could happen to any doctor in her position; looking at how the conspiracy theory of “medical kidnapping” is being constructed and affirmed by media on both sides of the political spectrum.  
 ***
Read Dyan Neary's New York Magazine piece here:
https://www.thecut.com/article/child-abuse-munchausen-syndrome-by-proxy.html
Watch the full video of John Stewart here:
https://www.tiktok.com/@blind_gossip/video/7295142757612588334?_r=1&amp;_t=8gwrdSfC298 
Records of the four families covered in the film here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FpSFjvX_8WB5cgPCI0E_cpXj1jaeVcC4?usp=sharing
Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at www.munchausensupport.com  
If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag @andreadunlop, email hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
* * *
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jan 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In the second part of our exclusive interview with Dr. Sally Smith, we discuss how the media coverage of her reached a fever pitch and turned her life and career upside down. We explore how not only the Netflix film but a high-profile piece in New York Magazine rewrote the narrative of the Kowalski case and Dr. Smith’s involvement to cast her as a villain. 
We unpack the stories of the four other families in the Netflix film—featured as examples of “false allegations” made by Dr. Smith—and uncover the more complicated truth about what happened to the children involved. 
We hear from Dr. Smith about how the media has stoked outrage and real-life threats and harassment against her, her coworkers, and her family. 
We see the horrifying truth that what happened to Dr. Sally Smith could happen to any doctor in her position; looking at how the conspiracy theory of “medical kidnapping” is being constructed and affirmed by media on both sides of the political spectrum.  
 ***
Read Dyan Neary's New York Magazine piece here:
https://www.thecut.com/article/child-abuse-munchausen-syndrome-by-proxy.html
Watch the full video of John Stewart here:
https://www.tiktok.com/@blind_gossip/video/7295142757612588334?_r=1&amp;_t=8gwrdSfC298 
Records of the four families covered in the film here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FpSFjvX_8WB5cgPCI0E_cpXj1jaeVcC4?usp=sharing
Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at www.munchausensupport.com  
If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag @andreadunlop, email hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
* * *
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the second part of our exclusive interview with Dr. Sally Smith, we discuss how the media coverage of her reached a fever pitch and turned her life and career upside down. We explore how not only the Netflix film but a high-profile piece in New York Magazine rewrote the narrative of the Kowalski case and Dr. Smith’s involvement to cast her as a villain. </p><p>We unpack the stories of the four other families in the Netflix film—featured as examples of “false allegations” made by Dr. Smith—and uncover the more complicated truth about what happened to the children involved. </p><p>We hear from Dr. Smith about how the media has stoked outrage and real-life threats and harassment against her, her coworkers, and her family. </p><p>We see the horrifying truth that what happened to Dr. Sally Smith could happen to any doctor in her position; looking at how the conspiracy theory of “medical kidnapping” is being constructed and affirmed by media on both sides of the political spectrum.  </p><p> ***</p><p>Read Dyan Neary's New York Magazine piece here:</p><p><a href="https://www.thecut.com/article/child-abuse-munchausen-syndrome-by-proxy.html">https://www.thecut.com/article/child-abuse-munchausen-syndrome-by-proxy.html</a></p><p>Watch the full video of John Stewart here:</p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@blind_gossip/video/7295142757612588334?_r=1&amp;_t=8gwrdSfC298">https://www.tiktok.com/@blind_gossip/video/7295142757612588334?_r=1&amp;_t=8gwrdSfC298 </a></p><p>Records of the four families covered in the film here:</p><p><a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FpSFjvX_8WB5cgPCI0E_cpXj1jaeVcC4?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FpSFjvX_8WB5cgPCI0E_cpXj1jaeVcC4?usp=sharing</a></p><p>Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at <a href="http://www.munchausensupport.com/">www.munchausensupport.com</a>  </p><p>If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop,</a> email <a href="mailto:hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com">hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com</a> or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 </p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>. </p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>. </p><p>* * *</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p><br></p><p>Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S03 E15: The Trials of Dr. Sally Smith (Season Finale: Part 1)  </title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/the-trials-of-dr-sally-smith-season-finale-part-1/</link>
      <description>In an exclusive interview with Dr. Sally Smith, host Andrea Dunlop travels to Florida to speak to the embattled child abuse pediatrician about her life and work and the Maya Kowalski case that saw her cast as the villain of a Netflix film.  
We get an inside look into Dr. Smith’s groundbreaking career as one of America's first board-certified child abuse pediatricians. We learn what it was like to face some of the most difficult cases imaginable all while raising two children of her own. And we see how the toughness necessary for her work led her to be ruthlessly judged in the public eye.  
This must-listen first installment of our season finale sets the stage for explosive revelations about the Kowalski case, the four other “falsely accused” families in the Netflix film, and much more.  
***
Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at www.munchausensupport.com  
Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
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Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In an exclusive interview with Dr. Sally Smith, host Andrea Dunlop travels to Florida to speak to the embattled child abuse pediatrician about her life and work and the Maya Kowalski case that saw her cast as the villain of a Netflix film.  
We get an inside look into Dr. Smith’s groundbreaking career as one of America's first board-certified child abuse pediatricians. We learn what it was like to face some of the most difficult cases imaginable all while raising two children of her own. And we see how the toughness necessary for her work led her to be ruthlessly judged in the public eye.  
This must-listen first installment of our season finale sets the stage for explosive revelations about the Kowalski case, the four other “falsely accused” families in the Netflix film, and much more.  
***
Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at www.munchausensupport.com  
Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
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Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In an exclusive interview with Dr. Sally Smith, host Andrea Dunlop travels to Florida to speak to the embattled child abuse pediatrician about her life and work and the Maya Kowalski case that saw her cast as the villain of a Netflix film.  </p><p>We get an inside look into Dr. Smith’s groundbreaking career as one of America's first board-certified child abuse pediatricians. We learn what it was like to face some of the most difficult cases imaginable all while raising two children of her own. And we see how the toughness necessary for her work led her to be ruthlessly judged in the public eye.  </p><p>This must-listen first installment of our season finale sets the stage for explosive revelations about the Kowalski case, the four other “falsely accused” families in the Netflix film, and much more.  </p><p>***</p><p>Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at <a href="http://www.munchausensupport.com/">www.munchausensupport.com</a>  </p><p>Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>. </p><p>Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. </p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>. </p><p>* * *</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S03 E14: Media Circus  </title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/media-circus/</link>
      <description>This week Andrea examines how the harrowing and complex story of the Maya Kowalski case turned into a pop culture moment, and spread dangerous misinformation in the process.  
We continue our conversation with Ethen Shapiro, lead attorney for Johns Hopkins All Childrens, about how the media coverage of this case got so out of hand and the risks it poses to doctors and children going forward.   
We take a deeper look at how entertainment reporter Caitlin Keating stumbled onto the story at her job at People Magazine, and despite her questionable grasp of medical child abuse issues, made a movie about a complicated case that was subsequently viewed by millions of people.  
Andrea shares revelations from Beata Kowalski's blog, written disturbingly in her young daughter Maya's voice, and wonders how anyone can ignore its terrifying contents.  
Stay tuned for a sneak peek of our exclusive interview featured in our season finale. 
***
Read Beata’s blog: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FpSFjvX_8WB5cgPCI0E_cpXj1jaeVcC4?usp=drive_link  
Megan Fox YouTube interview with Gregory Anderson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22eytc7v8oc&amp;t=9693s  
Kat and Nat Unfiltered: https://catandnat.ca/new-blog/hhttps/openspotifycom/take-care-of-maya-with-caitlin-keating  
Guys We Fucked podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlbosK25e7U  
Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at www.munchausensupport.com 
 ***
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag @andreadunlop, email hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 

Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>This week Andrea examines how the harrowing and complex story of the Maya Kowalski case turned into a pop culture moment, and spread dangerous misinformation in the process.  
We continue our conversation with Ethen Shapiro, lead attorney for Johns Hopkins All Childrens, about how the media coverage of this case got so out of hand and the risks it poses to doctors and children going forward.   
We take a deeper look at how entertainment reporter Caitlin Keating stumbled onto the story at her job at People Magazine, and despite her questionable grasp of medical child abuse issues, made a movie about a complicated case that was subsequently viewed by millions of people.  
Andrea shares revelations from Beata Kowalski's blog, written disturbingly in her young daughter Maya's voice, and wonders how anyone can ignore its terrifying contents.  
Stay tuned for a sneak peek of our exclusive interview featured in our season finale. 
***
Read Beata’s blog: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FpSFjvX_8WB5cgPCI0E_cpXj1jaeVcC4?usp=drive_link  
Megan Fox YouTube interview with Gregory Anderson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22eytc7v8oc&amp;t=9693s  
Kat and Nat Unfiltered: https://catandnat.ca/new-blog/hhttps/openspotifycom/take-care-of-maya-with-caitlin-keating  
Guys We Fucked podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlbosK25e7U  
Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at www.munchausensupport.com 
 ***
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag @andreadunlop, email hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 

Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week Andrea examines how the harrowing and complex story of the Maya Kowalski case turned into a pop culture moment, and spread dangerous misinformation in the process.  </p><p>We continue our conversation with Ethen Shapiro, lead attorney for Johns Hopkins All Childrens, about how the media coverage of this case got so out of hand and the risks it poses to doctors and children going forward.   </p><p>We take a deeper look at how entertainment reporter Caitlin Keating stumbled onto the story at her job at People Magazine, and despite her questionable grasp of medical child abuse issues, made a movie about a complicated case that was subsequently viewed by millions of people.  </p><p>Andrea shares revelations from Beata Kowalski's blog, written disturbingly in her young daughter Maya's voice, and wonders how anyone can ignore its terrifying contents.  </p><p>Stay tuned for a sneak peek of our exclusive interview featured in our season finale. </p><p>***</p><p>Read Beata’s blog: <a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FpSFjvX_8WB5cgPCI0E_cpXj1jaeVcC4?usp=drive_link">https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FpSFjvX_8WB5cgPCI0E_cpXj1jaeVcC4?usp=drive_link</a>  </p><p>Megan Fox YouTube interview with Gregory Anderson: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22eytc7v8oc&amp;t=9693s">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22eytc7v8oc&amp;t=9693s</a>  </p><p>Kat and Nat Unfiltered: <a href="https://catandnat.ca/new-blog/hhttps/openspotifycom/take-care-of-maya-with-caitlin-keating">https://catandnat.ca/new-blog/hhttps/openspotifycom/take-care-of-maya-with-caitlin-keating</a>  </p><p>Guys We Fucked podcast: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlbosK25e7U">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlbosK25e7U</a>  </p><p>Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at <a href="http://www.munchausensupport.com/">www.munchausensupport.com</a> </p><p> ***</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p>If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop,</a> email <a href="mailto:hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com">hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com</a> or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 </p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>. </p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>. </p><p><br></p><p>Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S03 E13: What Now?  </title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/what-now/</link>
      <description>Just when we thought the endless saga of Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens was over...it turns out it might only be beginning. 
In this episode, lead attorney for the Johns Hopkins All Childrens defense team, Ethen Shapiro, offers an insider's perspective on what happened in during the trial and what’s happened in the wake of it. 
Tina and Andrea discuss newly introduced evidence including Beata's requests to increase medications despite risks, Dr. Kirkpatrick's questionable diagnostic process, and communications illuminating Beata's substantial role in daughter Maya's care.  
Shapiro unpacks how harmful the verdict is for healthcare providers now unsure about reporting potential abuse and explains why the media coverage of this case and others like it is asymmetrical warfare. 
 We discuss the motion for a new trial based on juror misconduct, what happens next, and what it all means. 
***
Read Beata's emails and view Ethen Shapiro's slide deck laying out the case: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FpSFjvX_8WB5cgPCI0E_cpXj1jaeVcC4?usp=sharing
Watch Ethen Shapiro's closing arguments on Law &amp; Crime's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HBYKAN3BxM
 Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at www.munchausensupport.com 
 If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag @andreadunlop, email hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 
***
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
***
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 

Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Just when we thought the endless saga of Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens was over...it turns out it might only be beginning. 
In this episode, lead attorney for the Johns Hopkins All Childrens defense team, Ethen Shapiro, offers an insider's perspective on what happened in during the trial and what’s happened in the wake of it. 
Tina and Andrea discuss newly introduced evidence including Beata's requests to increase medications despite risks, Dr. Kirkpatrick's questionable diagnostic process, and communications illuminating Beata's substantial role in daughter Maya's care.  
Shapiro unpacks how harmful the verdict is for healthcare providers now unsure about reporting potential abuse and explains why the media coverage of this case and others like it is asymmetrical warfare. 
 We discuss the motion for a new trial based on juror misconduct, what happens next, and what it all means. 
***
Read Beata's emails and view Ethen Shapiro's slide deck laying out the case: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FpSFjvX_8WB5cgPCI0E_cpXj1jaeVcC4?usp=sharing
Watch Ethen Shapiro's closing arguments on Law &amp; Crime's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HBYKAN3BxM
 Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at www.munchausensupport.com 
 If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag @andreadunlop, email hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 
***
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
***
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 

Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Just when we thought the endless saga of Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens was over...it turns out it might only be beginning. </p><p>In this episode, lead attorney for the Johns Hopkins All Childrens defense team, Ethen Shapiro, offers an insider's perspective on what happened in during the trial and what’s happened in the wake of it. </p><p>Tina and Andrea discuss newly introduced evidence including Beata's requests to increase medications despite risks, Dr. Kirkpatrick's questionable diagnostic process, and communications illuminating Beata's substantial role in daughter Maya's care.  </p><p>Shapiro unpacks how harmful the verdict is for healthcare providers now unsure about reporting potential abuse and explains why the media coverage of this case and others like it is asymmetrical warfare. </p><p> We discuss the motion for a new trial based on juror misconduct, what happens next, and what it all means. </p><p>***</p><p>Read Beata's emails and view Ethen Shapiro's slide deck laying out the case: <a href="https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FpSFjvX_8WB5cgPCI0E_cpXj1jaeVcC4?usp=sharing">https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1FpSFjvX_8WB5cgPCI0E_cpXj1jaeVcC4?usp=sharing</a></p><p>Watch Ethen Shapiro's closing arguments on Law &amp; Crime's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HBYKAN3BxM</p><p> Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at <a href="http://www.munchausensupport.com/">www.munchausensupport.com</a> </p><p> If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop,</a> email <a href="mailto:hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com">hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com</a> or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 </p><p>***</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p>***</p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>. </p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>. </p><p><br></p><p>Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S03 E12: System Override  </title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/system-override/</link>
      <description>With the jury's stunning $242 million verdict in favor of the Kowalski family, host Andrea Dunlop looks at why this case has struck such a nerve on both sides of the political spectrum. She examines why some mothers accused of medical child abuse are viewed as monsters and others as martyrs.  
Andrea looks at the charges against social worker Cathy Bedy the woman who became the face of the child welfare bureaucracy during the Maya Kowalski case and examines her testimony.  
We also seek out answers about the troubled state of child welfare in America by talking to Dr. Jessica Pryce, author of the forthcoming book Broken: Transforming Child Protective Services—Notes of a Former Caseworker. 
Dr. Pryce shares heart-wrenching stories of mothers whose lives have been turned upside down by investigations and sets out a compelling and urgent case for an overhaul of CPS. With her inside view of the system, she also gives insight on how doctors and other mandated reporters can do the best for the families they want to help even within the current, deeply flawed system.  
This episode grapples with the complexity around reporting child abuse suspicions and the potentially chilling ripple effects of the explosive verdict in Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens. It examines the lack of support for struggling parents in America, while leaving the listener with urgent questions about justice and equity. 
***
Pre-order Dr. Jessica Pryce’s book here:  https://www.amazon.com/Broken-Transforming-Protective-Services_Notes-Caseworker/dp/0063036193 
Learn more about Dr. Pryce’s work on her website: https://jessicaprycephd.com/  
Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at www.munchausensupport.com  
 If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag @andreadunlop, email hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
***
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      <pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>With the jury's stunning $242 million verdict in favor of the Kowalski family, host Andrea Dunlop looks at why this case has struck such a nerve on both sides of the political spectrum. She examines why some mothers accused of medical child abuse are viewed as monsters and others as martyrs.  
Andrea looks at the charges against social worker Cathy Bedy the woman who became the face of the child welfare bureaucracy during the Maya Kowalski case and examines her testimony.  
We also seek out answers about the troubled state of child welfare in America by talking to Dr. Jessica Pryce, author of the forthcoming book Broken: Transforming Child Protective Services—Notes of a Former Caseworker. 
Dr. Pryce shares heart-wrenching stories of mothers whose lives have been turned upside down by investigations and sets out a compelling and urgent case for an overhaul of CPS. With her inside view of the system, she also gives insight on how doctors and other mandated reporters can do the best for the families they want to help even within the current, deeply flawed system.  
This episode grapples with the complexity around reporting child abuse suspicions and the potentially chilling ripple effects of the explosive verdict in Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens. It examines the lack of support for struggling parents in America, while leaving the listener with urgent questions about justice and equity. 
***
Pre-order Dr. Jessica Pryce’s book here:  https://www.amazon.com/Broken-Transforming-Protective-Services_Notes-Caseworker/dp/0063036193 
Learn more about Dr. Pryce’s work on her website: https://jessicaprycephd.com/  
Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at www.munchausensupport.com  
 If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag @andreadunlop, email hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
***
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  

Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>With the jury's stunning $242 million verdict in favor of the Kowalski family, host Andrea Dunlop looks at why this case has struck such a nerve on both sides of the political spectrum. She examines why some mothers accused of medical child abuse are viewed as monsters and others as martyrs.  </p><p>Andrea looks at the charges against social worker Cathy Bedy the woman who became the face of the child welfare bureaucracy during the Maya Kowalski case and examines her testimony.  </p><p>We also seek out answers about the troubled state of child welfare in America by talking to Dr. Jessica Pryce, author of the forthcoming book <em>Broken: Transforming Child Protective Services—Notes of a Former Caseworker.</em> </p><p>Dr. Pryce shares heart-wrenching stories of mothers whose lives have been turned upside down by investigations and sets out a compelling and urgent case for an overhaul of CPS. With her inside view of the system, she also gives insight on how doctors and other mandated reporters can do the best for the families they want to help even within the current, deeply flawed system.  </p><p>This episode grapples with the complexity around reporting child abuse suspicions and the potentially chilling ripple effects of the explosive verdict in Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens. It examines the lack of support for struggling parents in America, while leaving the listener with urgent questions about justice and equity. </p><p>***</p><p>Pre-order Dr. Jessica Pryce’s book here:  <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Broken-Transforming-Protective-Services_Notes-Caseworker/dp/0063036193">https://www.amazon.com/Broken-Transforming-Protective-Services_Notes-Caseworker/dp/0063036193</a> </p><p>Learn more about Dr. Pryce’s work on her website: <a href="https://jessicaprycephd.com/">https://jessicaprycephd.com/</a>  </p><p>Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at <a href="http://www.munchausensupport.com/">www.munchausensupport.com</a>  </p><p> If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop,</a> email <a href="mailto:hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com">hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com</a> or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 </p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>. </p><p>***</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p><br></p><p>Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. </p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S03 E11: Star Witness  </title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/star-witness/</link>
      <description>As we continue to process the far-reaching implications of the shocking verdict in the Kowalski case, we take a closer look at Maya Kowalski’s testimony and what we know about her. She’s emerged as a divisive figure in the case: alternately being cast as a brave heroine or as a manipulator. But given the evidence of her possible abuse and the questionable motives of the adults surrounding her, the truth is far more nuanced.   
We bring in survivor Jordyn Hope and child and adolescent psychiatrist Dr. Mary Sanders to help unpack the impact of trauma on memory and the aftereffects of medical child abuse. As Maya continues to be thrust into the spotlight for a role she didn’t choose, we grapple with the outcome of what it could all mean for her. 
*** 
Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at www.munhausensupport.com  
If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag @andreadunlop, email hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
*** 
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      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>As we continue to process the far-reaching implications of the shocking verdict in the Kowalski case, we take a closer look at Maya Kowalski’s testimony and what we know about her. She’s emerged as a divisive figure in the case: alternately being cast as a brave heroine or as a manipulator. But given the evidence of her possible abuse and the questionable motives of the adults surrounding her, the truth is far more nuanced.   
We bring in survivor Jordyn Hope and child and adolescent psychiatrist Dr. Mary Sanders to help unpack the impact of trauma on memory and the aftereffects of medical child abuse. As Maya continues to be thrust into the spotlight for a role she didn’t choose, we grapple with the outcome of what it could all mean for her. 
*** 
Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at www.munhausensupport.com  
If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag @andreadunlop, email hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
*** 
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>As we continue to process the far-reaching implications of the shocking verdict in the Kowalski case, we take a closer look at Maya Kowalski’s testimony and what we know about her. She’s emerged as a divisive figure in the case: alternately being cast as a brave heroine or as a manipulator. But given the evidence of her possible abuse and the questionable motives of the adults surrounding her, the truth is far more nuanced.   </p><p>We bring in survivor Jordyn Hope and child and adolescent psychiatrist Dr. Mary Sanders to help unpack the impact of trauma on memory and the aftereffects of medical child abuse. As Maya continues to be thrust into the spotlight for a role she didn’t choose, we grapple with the outcome of what it could all mean for her. </p><p>*** </p><p>Munchausen Support accepts donations and volunteers at <a href="http://www.munhausensupport.com/">www.munhausensupport.com</a>  </p><p>If you have a story about medical child abuse that you are ready to share you can tag <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop,</a> email <a href="mailto:hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com">hello@nobodyshouldbelieveme.com</a> or leave us a voicemail at (484) 768-0266 </p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>. </p><p>Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. </p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>. </p><p>*** </p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>4500</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S03 E10: The Verdict Part 2</title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/the-verdict-part-2/</link>
      <description>Andrea checks in with lawyer and trial consultant Jonathan Leach hours after the Kowalski verdict comes down. They talk about the judge’s decision to disallow testimony from the defense on medical child abuse, what happened with this jury, and the chances for a possible appeal for JHAC.  
With the medical community reeling from this news, Jonathan and Andrea unpack the dire consequences of the verdict and wonder — what now?  
***
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
*** 
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      <pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Andrea checks in with lawyer and trial consultant Jonathan Leach hours after the Kowalski verdict comes down. They talk about the judge’s decision to disallow testimony from the defense on medical child abuse, what happened with this jury, and the chances for a possible appeal for JHAC.  
With the medical community reeling from this news, Jonathan and Andrea unpack the dire consequences of the verdict and wonder — what now?  
***
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
*** 
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Andrea checks in with lawyer and trial consultant Jonathan Leach hours after the Kowalski verdict comes down. They talk about the judge’s decision to disallow testimony from the defense on medical child abuse, what happened with this jury, and the chances for a possible appeal for JHAC.  </p><p>With the medical community reeling from this news, Jonathan and Andrea unpack the dire consequences of the verdict and wonder — what now?  </p><p>***</p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>. </p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a> </p><p>Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. </p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>. </p><p>*** </p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2095</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S03 E09: The Verdict </title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/the-verdict/</link>
      <description>Andrea and special guest Bex (aka our Florida pediatrcian friend) process the shocking verdict in the Maya Kowalski trial. After 9 weeks of testimony, the jury awarded the Kowalski family nearly $300 million in damages from Johns Hopkins All Children's Hospital.
Bex shares her perspective as a pediatrician on how this verdict will impact the medical community and reporting of suspected child abuse cases. They discuss the implications for social workers and hospital staff who stood up and testified, and grapple with how the jury seemed to side with the emotional storytelling despite medical evidence.
Andrea and Bex reflect on what this means for the U.S. justice system, mandatory reporting laws, and the public's willingness to accept that medical child abuse exists. 
***
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea’s books here.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised.
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here.
***
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
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      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 22:47:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Andrea and special guest Bex (aka our Florida pediatrcian friend) process the shocking verdict in the Maya Kowalski trial. After 9 weeks of testimony, the jury awarded the Kowalski family nearly $300 million in damages from Johns Hopkins All Children's Hospital.
Bex shares her perspective as a pediatrician on how this verdict will impact the medical community and reporting of suspected child abuse cases. They discuss the implications for social workers and hospital staff who stood up and testified, and grapple with how the jury seemed to side with the emotional storytelling despite medical evidence.
Andrea and Bex reflect on what this means for the U.S. justice system, mandatory reporting laws, and the public's willingness to accept that medical child abuse exists. 
***
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea’s books here.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised.
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here.
***
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Andrea and special guest Bex (aka our Florida pediatrcian friend) process the shocking verdict in the Maya Kowalski trial. After 9 weeks of testimony, the jury awarded the Kowalski family nearly $300 million in damages from Johns Hopkins All Children's Hospital.</p><p>Bex shares her perspective as a pediatrician on how this verdict will impact the medical community and reporting of suspected child abuse cases. They discuss the implications for social workers and hospital staff who stood up and testified, and grapple with how the jury seemed to side with the emotional storytelling despite medical evidence.</p><p>Andrea and Bex reflect on what this means for the U.S. justice system, mandatory reporting laws, and the public's willingness to accept that medical child abuse exists. </p><p>***</p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised.</p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>.</p><p>***</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S03 E08: Trial of the Century</title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/trial-of-the-century/</link>
      <description>With a verdict in the case days away, host Andrea Dunlop unpacks some of what’s happened so far in the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens trial with lawyer and trial consultant Jonathan Leach. They analyze the dueling opening statements, consider what each side is likely to look for in jurors, and which of the charges—if any—might be most viable.  
Andrea shares insights on the lawyers after watching their interactions in court. She also weighs in on the extensive medical testimony so far, including a major revelation about the origins of Maya's controversial CRPS diagnosis. We also share a chilling account of Maya’s ketamine coma that was shared in court via missives written by Beata herself.  
As both sides begin their closing arguments Andrea weighs the merits of what each side has told the jury and considers what the ramifications of the imminent verdict might be. 
***
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*** 
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      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/e8fc6d86-7ce6-11ee-a535-6b9fbb4d20fd/image/3c25cbc3c07a42b9b44462c43cbdbf75.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
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      <itunes:summary>With a verdict in the case days away, host Andrea Dunlop unpacks some of what’s happened so far in the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens trial with lawyer and trial consultant Jonathan Leach. They analyze the dueling opening statements, consider what each side is likely to look for in jurors, and which of the charges—if any—might be most viable.  
Andrea shares insights on the lawyers after watching their interactions in court. She also weighs in on the extensive medical testimony so far, including a major revelation about the origins of Maya's controversial CRPS diagnosis. We also share a chilling account of Maya’s ketamine coma that was shared in court via missives written by Beata herself.  
As both sides begin their closing arguments Andrea weighs the merits of what each side has told the jury and considers what the ramifications of the imminent verdict might be. 
***
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Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
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        <![CDATA[<p>With a verdict in the case days away, host Andrea Dunlop unpacks some of what’s happened so far in the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens trial with lawyer and trial consultant Jonathan Leach. They analyze the dueling opening statements, consider what each side is likely to look for in jurors, and which of the charges—if any—might be most viable.  </p><p>Andrea shares insights on the lawyers after watching their interactions in court. She also weighs in on the extensive medical testimony so far, including a major revelation about the origins of Maya's controversial CRPS diagnosis. We also share a chilling account of Maya’s ketamine coma that was shared in court via missives written by Beata herself.  </p><p>As both sides begin their closing arguments Andrea weighs the merits of what each side has told the jury and considers what the ramifications of the imminent verdict might be. </p><p>***</p><p>To support the show, subscribe on <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">Apple Podcast</a>s or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial.  </p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>. </p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a> </p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>. </p><p>*** </p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S03 E07: The Believers Part 2 </title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/the-believers-part-2/</link>
      <description>As the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens trial barrels forward, new information comes to light each day about what really happened to Maya Kowalski during her time in the hospital. In part 2 of The Believers, Andrea digs into the testimony from the doctors at the center of the case and finds medical professionals at odds. Did Maya really have CRPS or was something else going on? With trial watchers choosing sides and digging in: what does the evidence actually tell us? 
Andrea also talks more about her conversation with Laura Richards and her co-host Jim Clemente, following up on some of the leads they presented. 
NOTE: It came up in court on 11/1 in the rebuttal that Dr. Chopra did NOT attend Harvard Medical School, but rather an institution in India affiliated with HMS. He also clarified that he is a clinical assistant professor at Brown rather than a full professor. 
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Read about Dr. Chopra’s beliefs about medical child abuse here: https://painri.com/epidemic-child-abuse-doctors-harming-children/ 
Crime Analyst: https://www.crime-analyst.com/  
Real Crime Profile: https://www.realcrimeprofile.com/  
Law &amp; Crime Networks coverage of Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens:   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZTZxCMy8Oc  
To support the show, subscribe on Apple Podcasts or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial.  
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
*** 
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      <pubDate>Fri, 03 Nov 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>As the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens trial barrels forward, new information comes to light each day about what really happened to Maya Kowalski during her time in the hospital. In part 2 of The Believers, Andrea digs into the testimony from the doctors at the center of the case and finds medical professionals at odds. Did Maya really have CRPS or was something else going on? With trial watchers choosing sides and digging in: what does the evidence actually tell us? 
Andrea also talks more about her conversation with Laura Richards and her co-host Jim Clemente, following up on some of the leads they presented. 
NOTE: It came up in court on 11/1 in the rebuttal that Dr. Chopra did NOT attend Harvard Medical School, but rather an institution in India affiliated with HMS. He also clarified that he is a clinical assistant professor at Brown rather than a full professor. 
***
Read about Dr. Chopra’s beliefs about medical child abuse here: https://painri.com/epidemic-child-abuse-doctors-harming-children/ 
Crime Analyst: https://www.crime-analyst.com/  
Real Crime Profile: https://www.realcrimeprofile.com/  
Law &amp; Crime Networks coverage of Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens:   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZTZxCMy8Oc  
To support the show, subscribe on Apple Podcasts or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial.  
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
*** 
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Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
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        <![CDATA[<p>As the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens trial barrels forward, new information comes to light each day about what really happened to Maya Kowalski during her time in the hospital. In part 2 of The Believers, Andrea digs into the testimony from the doctors at the center of the case and finds medical professionals at odds. Did Maya really have CRPS or was something else going on? With trial watchers choosing sides and digging in: what does the evidence actually tell us? </p><p>Andrea also talks more about her conversation with Laura Richards and her co-host Jim Clemente, following up on some of the leads they presented. </p><p><strong>NOTE</strong>: It came up in court on 11/1 in the rebuttal that Dr. Chopra did NOT attend Harvard Medical School, but rather an institution in India affiliated with HMS. He also clarified that he is a clinical assistant professor at Brown rather than a full professor. </p><p>***</p><p>Read about Dr. Chopra’s beliefs about medical child abuse here: <a href="https://painri.com/epidemic-child-abuse-doctors-harming-children/">https://painri.com/epidemic-child-abuse-doctors-harming-children/</a> </p><p>Crime Analyst: <a href="https://www.crime-analyst.com/">https://www.crime-analyst.com/</a>  </p><p>Real Crime Profile: <a href="https://www.realcrimeprofile.com/">https://www.realcrimeprofile.com/</a>  </p><p>Law &amp; Crime Networks coverage of Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens:   </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZTZxCMy8Oc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZTZxCMy8Oc</a>  </p><p>To support the show, subscribe on <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">Apple Podcast</a>s or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial.  </p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>. </p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a> </p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>. </p><p>*** </p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p><br></p><p>Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S03 E06: The Believers Part 1</title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/the-believers-part-1/</link>
      <description>In today’s episode, Andrea seeks an outside perspective on the controversial Maya Kowalski case. Laura Richards, host of Crime Analyst and cohost of the Real Crime Profile podcast, joins Andrea to talk through the complexities and contradictions of the Netflix documentary. The conversation reveals just how polarized interpretations of this case have become. With the verdict in the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens looming, today we look at what’s been revealed by the both the vast amount of documentation on this case, as well as the trial unfolding before our eyes.  
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Megan Phelps-Roper TED Talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/megan_phelps_roper_i_grew_up_in_the_westboro_baptist_church_here_s_why_i_left?language=en 
The Witch Trials of JK Rowling: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-witch-trials-of-j-k-rowling/id1671691064 
Crime Analyst: https://www.crime-analyst.com/  
Real Crime Profile: https://www.realcrimeprofile.com/  
Law &amp; Crime Networks coverage of Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens:   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZTZxCMy8Oc  
To support the show, subscribe on Apple Podcasts or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial.  
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
*** 
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      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Nov 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In today’s episode, Andrea seeks an outside perspective on the controversial Maya Kowalski case. Laura Richards, host of Crime Analyst and cohost of the Real Crime Profile podcast, joins Andrea to talk through the complexities and contradictions of the Netflix documentary. The conversation reveals just how polarized interpretations of this case have become. With the verdict in the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens looming, today we look at what’s been revealed by the both the vast amount of documentation on this case, as well as the trial unfolding before our eyes.  
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Megan Phelps-Roper TED Talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/megan_phelps_roper_i_grew_up_in_the_westboro_baptist_church_here_s_why_i_left?language=en 
The Witch Trials of JK Rowling: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-witch-trials-of-j-k-rowling/id1671691064 
Crime Analyst: https://www.crime-analyst.com/  
Real Crime Profile: https://www.realcrimeprofile.com/  
Law &amp; Crime Networks coverage of Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens:   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZTZxCMy8Oc  
To support the show, subscribe on Apple Podcasts or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial.  
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
*** 
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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In today’s episode, Andrea seeks an outside perspective on the controversial Maya Kowalski case. Laura Richards, host of Crime Analyst and cohost of the Real Crime Profile podcast, joins Andrea to talk through the complexities and contradictions of the Netflix documentary. The conversation reveals just how polarized interpretations of this case have become. With the verdict in the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens looming, today we look at what’s been revealed by the both the vast amount of documentation on this case, as well as the trial unfolding before our eyes.  </p><p>***</p><p>Megan Phelps-Roper TED Talk: <a href="https://www.ted.com/talks/megan_phelps_roper_i_grew_up_in_the_westboro_baptist_church_here_s_why_i_left?language=en">https://www.ted.com/talks/megan_phelps_roper_i_grew_up_in_the_westboro_baptist_church_here_s_why_i_left?language=en</a> </p><p>The Witch Trials of JK Rowling: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-witch-trials-of-j-k-rowling/id1671691064">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-witch-trials-of-j-k-rowling/id1671691064</a> </p><p>Crime Analyst: <a href="https://www.crime-analyst.com/">https://www.crime-analyst.com/</a>  </p><p>Real Crime Profile: <a href="https://www.realcrimeprofile.com/">https://www.realcrimeprofile.com/</a>  </p><p>Law &amp; Crime Networks coverage of Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Childrens:   </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZTZxCMy8Oc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZTZxCMy8Oc</a>  </p><p>To support the show, subscribe on <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">Apple Podcast</a>s or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial.  </p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>. </p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a> </p><p>Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. </p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>. </p><p>*** </p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Your Questions About Season 2 </title>
      <description>Host Andrea Dunlop and lead producer Tina Nole dive into listener feedback from season 2 of Nobody Should Believe Me. Addressing questions of gender issues and potential sexism around medical child abuse accusations, Andrea’s guest appearance on Real Crime Profile, pro-cop allegations and more. Plus, Andrea and Tina fill listeners in on what to expect for season 3 and beyond.  
***
To support the show, subscribe on Apple Podcasts or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial.  
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised.  
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
*** 
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      <pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Host Andrea Dunlop and lead producer Tina Nole dive into listener feedback from season 2 of Nobody Should Believe Me. Addressing questions of gender issues and potential sexism around medical child abuse accusations, Andrea’s guest appearance on Real Crime Profile, pro-cop allegations and more. Plus, Andrea and Tina fill listeners in on what to expect for season 3 and beyond.  
***
To support the show, subscribe on Apple Podcasts or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial.  
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised.  
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
*** 
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Host Andrea Dunlop and lead producer Tina Nole dive into listener feedback from season 2 of Nobody Should Believe Me. Addressing questions of gender issues and potential sexism around medical child abuse accusations, Andrea’s guest appearance on Real Crime Profile, pro-cop allegations and more. Plus, Andrea and Tina fill listeners in on what to expect for season 3 and beyond.  </p><p>***</p><p>To support the show, subscribe on <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">Apple Podcast</a>s or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial.  </p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>. </p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a> </p><p>Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised.  </p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>. </p><p>*** </p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S03 E05: The Women </title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/the-women/</link>
      <description>In the flattened version of the Maya Kowalski story that has dominated the headlines, Beata Kowalski is a mother who fell prey to age-old biases against women. This story attaches itself to the well-documented reality that women are all too often not believed when it comes to their own pain, the stories of their own lives, and their professional opinions. Beata is cast as the martyr in Netflix’s “Take Care of Maya” and two other women, Cathy Beady and Dr. Sally Smith, are cast as the villains. Today, we unpack the messy gender dynamics of this case.  
Cathy Beady is the social worker with a troubling past who’s been accused of grooming and assaulting Maya Kowalski. What do we know about what happened during Maya’s stay at Johns Hopkins All Childrens? Was Cathy Beady really hellbent on keeping Maya and Beata apart? 
Media coverage of the Maya Kowalski story has also done irreparable harm to the life and career of the respected doctor at the center of the controversy: child abuse pediatrician Sally Smith. She’s been accused of violating HIPPA in a single-minded crusade to create a case against Beata Kowalski. But is there evidence that Dr. Smith did anything other than her job? Did she drive Beata to death as the film suggests or is it possible her interventions saved Maya Kowalski’s life? 
As we break down the narratives and misinformation surrounding this case we get to the heart of the matter. The Kowalski legal team’s claims that Munchausen by proxy is based on “junk science” and that Beata Kowalski wasn’t guilty of medical child abuse because this form of abuse isn’t even real.  
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To support the show, subscribe on Apple Podcasts or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial.
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com  
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
*** 
Click here to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!   
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      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In the flattened version of the Maya Kowalski story that has dominated the headlines, Beata Kowalski is a mother who fell prey to age-old biases against women. This story attaches itself to the well-documented reality that women are all too often not believed when it comes to their own pain, the stories of their own lives, and their professional opinions. Beata is cast as the martyr in Netflix’s “Take Care of Maya” and two other women, Cathy Beady and Dr. Sally Smith, are cast as the villains. Today, we unpack the messy gender dynamics of this case.  
Cathy Beady is the social worker with a troubling past who’s been accused of grooming and assaulting Maya Kowalski. What do we know about what happened during Maya’s stay at Johns Hopkins All Childrens? Was Cathy Beady really hellbent on keeping Maya and Beata apart? 
Media coverage of the Maya Kowalski story has also done irreparable harm to the life and career of the respected doctor at the center of the controversy: child abuse pediatrician Sally Smith. She’s been accused of violating HIPPA in a single-minded crusade to create a case against Beata Kowalski. But is there evidence that Dr. Smith did anything other than her job? Did she drive Beata to death as the film suggests or is it possible her interventions saved Maya Kowalski’s life? 
As we break down the narratives and misinformation surrounding this case we get to the heart of the matter. The Kowalski legal team’s claims that Munchausen by proxy is based on “junk science” and that Beata Kowalski wasn’t guilty of medical child abuse because this form of abuse isn’t even real.  
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the flattened version of the Maya Kowalski story that has dominated the headlines, Beata Kowalski is a mother who fell prey to age-old biases against women. This story attaches itself to the well-documented reality that women are all too often not believed when it comes to their own pain, the stories of their own lives, and their professional opinions. Beata is cast as the martyr in Netflix’s “Take Care of Maya” and two other women, Cathy Beady and Dr. Sally Smith, are cast as the villains. Today, we unpack the messy gender dynamics of this case.  </p><p>Cathy Beady is the social worker with a troubling past who’s been accused of grooming and assaulting Maya Kowalski. What do we know about what happened during Maya’s stay at Johns Hopkins All Childrens? Was Cathy Beady really hellbent on keeping Maya and Beata apart? </p><p>Media coverage of the Maya Kowalski story has also done irreparable harm to the life and career of the respected doctor at the center of the controversy: child abuse pediatrician Sally Smith. She’s been accused of violating HIPPA in a single-minded crusade to create a case against Beata Kowalski. But is there evidence that Dr. Smith did anything other than her job? Did she drive Beata to death as the film suggests or is it possible her interventions saved Maya Kowalski’s life? </p><p>As we break down the narratives and misinformation surrounding this case we get to the heart of the matter. The Kowalski legal team’s claims that Munchausen by proxy is based on “junk science” and that Beata Kowalski wasn’t guilty of medical child abuse because this form of abuse isn’t even real.  </p><p>***</p><p>To support the show, subscribe on <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">Apple Podcast</a>s or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial.</p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>. </p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a>  </p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>. </p><p>*** </p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!   </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S03 E04: Retaliation </title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/retaliation/</link>
      <description>Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse and suicide. Listener discretion is advised. 
 
Beata Kowalski’s tragic death by suicide in January of 2016 is at the center of the $220 million lawsuit Jack Kowalski has filed against Johns Hopkins All Childrens hospital. But did Beata really take her own life to free her daughter from the hospital keeping her captive as the plaintiff claims? As with everything in this story, the truth is much more complicated. The narrative told in the Netflix film “Take Care of Maya” is far from a complete picture of the harrowing series of events that led to Beata’s death.   
In this episode we go through the police reports of the incident and various testimonies of those who were present to fill in the gaps of the days and hours leading up to Beata’s death. We also examine the final court hearing Beata attended, which gives us a glimpse into where the case stood at the time of her death.  
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      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse and suicide. Listener discretion is advised. 
 
Beata Kowalski’s tragic death by suicide in January of 2016 is at the center of the $220 million lawsuit Jack Kowalski has filed against Johns Hopkins All Childrens hospital. But did Beata really take her own life to free her daughter from the hospital keeping her captive as the plaintiff claims? As with everything in this story, the truth is much more complicated. The narrative told in the Netflix film “Take Care of Maya” is far from a complete picture of the harrowing series of events that led to Beata’s death.   
In this episode we go through the police reports of the incident and various testimonies of those who were present to fill in the gaps of the days and hours leading up to Beata’s death. We also examine the final court hearing Beata attended, which gives us a glimpse into where the case stood at the time of her death.  
 ***
To support the show, subscribe on Apple Podcasts or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial.  
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
*** 
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse and suicide. Listener discretion is advised.</strong> </p><p> </p><p>Beata Kowalski’s tragic death by suicide in January of 2016 is at the center of the $220 million lawsuit Jack Kowalski has filed against Johns Hopkins All Childrens hospital. But did Beata really take her own life to free her daughter from the hospital keeping her captive as the plaintiff claims? As with everything in this story, the truth is much more complicated. The narrative told in the Netflix film “Take Care of Maya” is far from a complete picture of the harrowing series of events that led to Beata’s death.   </p><p>In this episode we go through the police reports of the incident and various testimonies of those who were present to fill in the gaps of the days and hours leading up to Beata’s death. We also examine the final court hearing Beata attended, which gives us a glimpse into where the case stood at the time of her death.  </p><p> ***</p><p>To support the show, subscribe on <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">Apple Podcast</a>s or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial.  </p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>. </p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a> </p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>. </p><p>*** </p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2948</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S03 E03: In a Heartbeat</title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/in-a-heartbeat/</link>
      <description>In our third episode, we look at a central piece of the story that was left unfinished at the time of Beata Kowalski’s death: the police investigation into her for medical child abuse. 
Along with Detective Mike Weber and our anonymous Florida pediatrician friend, we unpack shocking new details from the police investigation and from Jack Kowalski’s interview the Detective Stephanie Graham. Was Jack really just being pressured to throw his wife under the bus? Or did he have suspicions of his own about her?
We also unpack some of the many discrepancies in Maya's medical history and the troubling behaviors of her mother Beata, showing that that this pattern of deceptive behavior went way beyond the question of whether her daughter’s diagnosis of CRPS was correct or not
As the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Children’s trial unfolds in real time, we examine the facts of the case as they stood when Beata died and show how the prevailing media narrative about this case is getting it all wrong. 
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      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Oct 2023 15:31:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In our third episode, we look at a central piece of the story that was left unfinished at the time of Beata Kowalski’s death: the police investigation into her for medical child abuse. 
Along with Detective Mike Weber and our anonymous Florida pediatrician friend, we unpack shocking new details from the police investigation and from Jack Kowalski’s interview the Detective Stephanie Graham. Was Jack really just being pressured to throw his wife under the bus? Or did he have suspicions of his own about her?
We also unpack some of the many discrepancies in Maya's medical history and the troubling behaviors of her mother Beata, showing that that this pattern of deceptive behavior went way beyond the question of whether her daughter’s diagnosis of CRPS was correct or not
As the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Children’s trial unfolds in real time, we examine the facts of the case as they stood when Beata died and show how the prevailing media narrative about this case is getting it all wrong. 
***
To support the show, subscribe on Apple Podcasts or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial. 
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea’s books here.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here.
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        <![CDATA[<p>In our third episode, we look at a central piece of the story that was left unfinished at the time of Beata Kowalski’s death: the police investigation into her for medical child abuse. </p><p>Along with Detective Mike Weber and our anonymous Florida pediatrician friend, we unpack shocking new details from the police investigation and from Jack Kowalski’s interview the Detective Stephanie Graham. Was Jack really just being pressured to throw his wife under the bus? Or did he have suspicions of his own about her?</p><p>We also unpack some of the many discrepancies in Maya's medical history and the troubling behaviors of her mother Beata, showing that that this pattern of deceptive behavior went way beyond the question of whether her daughter’s diagnosis of CRPS was correct or not</p><p>As the Kowalski v Johns Hopkins All Children’s trial unfolds in real time, we examine the facts of the case as they stood when Beata died and show how the prevailing media narrative about this case is getting it all wrong. </p><p>***</p><p>To support the show, subscribe on <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">Apple Podcast</a>s or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free, including weekly recaps of the Kowalski trial. </p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>.</p><p>***</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S03 E02: Shelter</title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/shelter/</link>
      <description>As the Maya Kowalski case heads to trial, we dig into the massive trove of documents about this case and begin to unpack what we know about what really happened during Maya Kowalski’s fateful stay at Johns Hopkins All Childrens in October 2016.  
The Netflix documentary about the case—and the prevailing media narrative---would have you believe that Maya was ripped from her parents by a corrupt system, and that this could happen to any parent of a sick child. But did Maya really have a deadly disease for which she required the massive amounts of ketamine and other drugs she was being given? Was the hospital unfairly biased against Beata Kowalski because she was difficult, or was something more sinister at play?  
We talk to national law enforcement expert on medical child abuse, Detective Mike Weber, as well as a Florida pediatrician who helps us unravel some of the myriad strange details about Maya’s medical history.  
The beginning of our multi-part deep dive into the case reveals the shocking events that led up to the family separation. 
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Buy Andrea’s books here. 
To support the show, subscribe on Apple Podcasts or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free.  
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
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      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Sep 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>As the Maya Kowalski case heads to trial, we dig into the massive trove of documents about this case and begin to unpack what we know about what really happened during Maya Kowalski’s fateful stay at Johns Hopkins All Childrens in October 2016.  
The Netflix documentary about the case—and the prevailing media narrative---would have you believe that Maya was ripped from her parents by a corrupt system, and that this could happen to any parent of a sick child. But did Maya really have a deadly disease for which she required the massive amounts of ketamine and other drugs she was being given? Was the hospital unfairly biased against Beata Kowalski because she was difficult, or was something more sinister at play?  
We talk to national law enforcement expert on medical child abuse, Detective Mike Weber, as well as a Florida pediatrician who helps us unravel some of the myriad strange details about Maya’s medical history.  
The beginning of our multi-part deep dive into the case reveals the shocking events that led up to the family separation. 
***
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea’s books here. 
To support the show, subscribe on Apple Podcasts or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free.  
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
Download the APSAC's practice guidelines here. 
*** 
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        <![CDATA[<p>As the Maya Kowalski case heads to trial, we dig into the massive trove of documents about this case and begin to unpack what we know about what really happened during Maya Kowalski’s fateful stay at Johns Hopkins All Childrens in October 2016.  </p><p>The Netflix documentary about the case—and the prevailing media narrative---would have you believe that Maya was ripped from her parents by a corrupt system, and that this could happen to any parent of a sick child. But did Maya really have a deadly disease for which she required the massive amounts of ketamine and other drugs she was being given? Was the hospital unfairly biased against Beata Kowalski because she was difficult, or was something more sinister at play?  </p><p>We talk to national law enforcement expert on medical child abuse, Detective Mike Weber, as well as a Florida pediatrician who helps us unravel some of the myriad strange details about Maya’s medical history.  </p><p>The beginning of our multi-part deep dive into the case reveals the shocking events that led up to the family separation. </p><p>***</p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>. </p><p>To support the show, subscribe on <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">Apple Podcast</a>s or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free.  </p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a> </p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>. </p><p>*** </p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S03 E01: Special Report: Watching Take Care of Maya (re-release)</title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/special-report-watching-take-care-of-maya-re-release/</link>
      <description>Warning: This content includes references to suicide and child abuse. If you or someone you know is having thoughts of suicide, help is available. Call or text 988 to speak with a trained crisis counselor 24/7. You can also visit 988lifeline.org for additional resources and support.
As the Jack Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins All Childrens trial gets underway today in Sarasota, FL, we revisit our conversation with top experts Bea Yorker, Dr. Mary Sanders, Detective Mike Weber, and survivor Jordyn Hope about “Take Care of Maya” the Netflix documentary about the Maya Kowalski case. Today we introduce our third season of Nobody Should Believe Me, where we will delve into the complex notion of “false accusations” of medical child abuse, getting into everything we’ve uncovered about the Maya Kowalski case and the broader conversations happening around the nation. Is there really an epidemic of over-diagnosis of medical child abuse, or are offenders slipping through the cracks? 
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      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2023 14:41:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Warning: This content includes references to suicide and child abuse. If you or someone you know is having thoughts of suicide, help is available. Call or text 988 to speak with a trained crisis counselor 24/7. You can also visit 988lifeline.org for additional resources and support.
As the Jack Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins All Childrens trial gets underway today in Sarasota, FL, we revisit our conversation with top experts Bea Yorker, Dr. Mary Sanders, Detective Mike Weber, and survivor Jordyn Hope about “Take Care of Maya” the Netflix documentary about the Maya Kowalski case. Today we introduce our third season of Nobody Should Believe Me, where we will delve into the complex notion of “false accusations” of medical child abuse, getting into everything we’ve uncovered about the Maya Kowalski case and the broader conversations happening around the nation. Is there really an epidemic of over-diagnosis of medical child abuse, or are offenders slipping through the cracks? 
Andrea is a finalist for the Signal Awards! Best Host - Documentary Category: PLEASE VOTE HERE: https://vote.signalaward.com/PublicVoting#/2023/shows/craft/best-host-documentary
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Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
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        <![CDATA[<p>Warning: This content includes references to suicide and child abuse. If you or someone you know is having thoughts of suicide, help is available. Call or text 988 to speak with a trained crisis counselor 24/7. You can also visit <a href="https://988lifeline.org">988lifeline.org</a> for additional resources and support.</p><p>As the Jack Kowalski v. Johns Hopkins All Childrens trial gets underway today in Sarasota, FL, we revisit our conversation with top experts Bea Yorker, Dr. Mary Sanders, Detective Mike Weber, and survivor Jordyn Hope about “Take Care of Maya” the Netflix documentary about the Maya Kowalski case. Today we introduce our third season of Nobody Should Believe Me, where we will delve into the complex notion of “false accusations” of medical child abuse, getting into everything we’ve uncovered about the Maya Kowalski case and the broader conversations happening around the nation. Is there really an epidemic of over-diagnosis of medical child abuse, or are offenders slipping through the cracks? </p><p>Andrea is a finalist for the Signal Awards! Best Host - Documentary Category: PLEASE VOTE HERE: <a href="https://vote.signalaward.com/PublicVoting#/2023/shows/craft/best-host-documentary">https://vote.signalaward.com/PublicVoting#/2023/shows/craft/best-host-documentary</a></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a> </p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>. </p><p>To support the show, subscribe on <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">Apple Podcast</a>s or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free.  </p><p>* * *</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Unabridged Conversation with Leah McGowan</title>
      <description>In today's bonus episode, Andrea talks to family law attorney Leah McGowan about family and juvenile court and all of the many complications within those systems that create barriers for helping victims of medical child abuse. 
***
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      <pubDate>Thu, 14 Sep 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In today's bonus episode, Andrea talks to family law attorney Leah McGowan about family and juvenile court and all of the many complications within those systems that create barriers for helping victims of medical child abuse. 
***
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***
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        <![CDATA[<p>In today's bonus episode, Andrea talks to family law attorney Leah McGowan about family and juvenile court and all of the many complications within those systems that create barriers for helping victims of medical child abuse. </p><p>***</p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, subscribe on <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">Apple Podcast</a>s or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free. </p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>.</p><p>***</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2849</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Unabridged Conversation with Bea Yorker </title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com</link>
      <description>In Andrea’s full conversation with law professor and nurse Bea Yorker, they discuss the complexities of medical child abuse, their work with survivors, and debunk some of the most common misconceptions about Munchausen by proxy/ medical child abuse.
***
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***
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      <pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In Andrea’s full conversation with law professor and nurse Bea Yorker, they discuss the complexities of medical child abuse, their work with survivors, and debunk some of the most common misconceptions about Munchausen by proxy/ medical child abuse.
***
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***
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        <![CDATA[<p>In Andrea’s full conversation with law professor and nurse Bea Yorker, they discuss the complexities of medical child abuse, their work with survivors, and debunk some of the most common misconceptions about Munchausen by proxy/ medical child abuse.</p><p>***</p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, subscribe on <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">Apple Podcast</a>s or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free. </p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>Download the <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>.</p><p>***</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3978</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Unabridged Conversation with Dr. Carole Jenny</title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com</link>
      <description>In Andrea’s full conversation with renowned child abuse pediatrician, Dr. Carole Jenny they discuss Dr. Jenny’s fascinating history in the field, the intricacies of medical child abuse cases, and Dr. Jenny’s testimony and report in the state’s case against Andrea’s sister, Megan.  
***
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*** 
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      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Aug 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In Andrea’s full conversation with renowned child abuse pediatrician, Dr. Carole Jenny they discuss Dr. Jenny’s fascinating history in the field, the intricacies of medical child abuse cases, and Dr. Jenny’s testimony and report in the state’s case against Andrea’s sister, Megan.  
***
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*** 
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        <![CDATA[<p>In Andrea’s full conversation with renowned child abuse pediatrician, Dr. Carole Jenny they discuss Dr. Jenny’s fascinating history in the field, the intricacies of medical child abuse cases, and Dr. Jenny’s testimony and report in the state’s case against Andrea’s sister, Megan.  </p><p>***</p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea’s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>. </p><p>To support the show, subscribe on <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">Apple Podcast</a>s or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free.  </p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a> </p><p>Download the <a href="https://www.apsac.org/9235fgnl8">APSAC's practice guidelines here</a>. </p><p>*** </p><p>Click <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p><br></p><p>Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>NSBM Special Report: Watching Take Care of Maya</title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com</link>
      <description>We gather top experts Bea Yorker, Dr. Mary Sanders, Detective Mike Weber, and MBP survivor Jordyn Hope to discuss the Netflix documentary “Take Care of Maya” and the complicated case it covers. 
***
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***
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      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2023 16:33:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>We gather top experts Bea Yorker, Dr. Mary Sanders, Detective Mike Weber, and MBP survivor Jordyn Hope to discuss the Netflix documentary “Take Care of Maya” and the complicated case it covers. 
***
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, subscribe on Apple Podcasts or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free. 
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The full APSAC guidelines for professionals can be accessed here. 
***
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        <![CDATA[<p>We gather top experts Bea Yorker, Dr. Mary Sanders, Detective Mike Weber, and MBP survivor Jordyn Hope to discuss the Netflix documentary “Take Care of Maya” and the complicated case it covers. </p><p>***</p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos:<a href="%20@andreadunlop"> @andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, subscribe on Apple Podcasts or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe where you can listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free. </p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="http://munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The full APSAC guidelines for professionals can be accessed <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>. </p><p>***</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p><br></p><p>Note: This episode contains sensitive content related to child abuse. Listener discretion is advised.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S02 Ep07: Megan</title>
      <description>In the wake of obtaining shocking public records about her sister’s case, host Andrea Dunlop decides to divulge the details of the second investigation into her sister, Megan Carter. Seated alongside Detective Mike Webber, Andrea delves into the extensive documentation, and together the two unpack the devastating information about what reportedly happened to her niece. 

Despite video evidence, a successful separation test, and expert testimony from one of the most well-respected experts in the country, the juvenile court judge who reviewed the case returned custody of Megan’s two children. Andrea remains deeply concerned that her niece and nephew are victims of a flawed system incapable of addressing the horrifying reality of medical child abuse and makes public the evidence against her sister as a last resort to protect them.

During their discussion, Andrea and Mike also examine an irresponsible and misleading article about Megan’s case published by NBC in collaboration with King 5, a local Seattle news outlet. In what has become a distressing pattern in media coverage of medical child abuse cases, this article attacks the doctor who reported the abuse and neglects to mention the evidence that made her do so.

Meanwhile the judge’s order that returned custody of the two children—and on which the media’s reporting appears to have relied—contains shocking mistakes and untruths. Andrea talks to someone close to the case to set the record straight.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Jul 2023 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In the wake of obtaining shocking public records about her sister’s case, host Andrea Dunlop decides to divulge the details of the second investigation into her sister, Megan Carter. Seated alongside Detective Mike Webber, Andrea delves into the extensive documentation, and together the two unpack the devastating information about what reportedly happened to her niece. 

Despite video evidence, a successful separation test, and expert testimony from one of the most well-respected experts in the country, the juvenile court judge who reviewed the case returned custody of Megan’s two children. Andrea remains deeply concerned that her niece and nephew are victims of a flawed system incapable of addressing the horrifying reality of medical child abuse and makes public the evidence against her sister as a last resort to protect them.

During their discussion, Andrea and Mike also examine an irresponsible and misleading article about Megan’s case published by NBC in collaboration with King 5, a local Seattle news outlet. In what has become a distressing pattern in media coverage of medical child abuse cases, this article attacks the doctor who reported the abuse and neglects to mention the evidence that made her do so.

Meanwhile the judge’s order that returned custody of the two children—and on which the media’s reporting appears to have relied—contains shocking mistakes and untruths. Andrea talks to someone close to the case to set the record straight.
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the wake of obtaining shocking public records about her sister’s case, host Andrea Dunlop decides to divulge the details of the second investigation into her sister, Megan Carter. Seated alongside Detective Mike Webber, Andrea delves into the extensive documentation, and together the two unpack the devastating information about what reportedly happened to her niece. </p>
<p>Despite video evidence, a successful separation test, and expert testimony from one of the most well-respected experts in the country, the juvenile court judge who reviewed the case returned custody of Megan’s two children. Andrea remains deeply concerned that her niece and nephew are victims of a flawed system incapable of addressing the horrifying reality of medical child abuse and makes public the evidence against her sister as a last resort to protect them.</p>
<p>During their discussion, Andrea and Mike also examine an irresponsible and misleading article about Megan’s case published by NBC in collaboration with King 5, a local Seattle news outlet. In what has become a distressing pattern in media coverage of medical child abuse cases, this article attacks the doctor who reported the abuse and neglects to mention the evidence that made her do so.</p>
<p>Meanwhile the judge’s order that returned custody of the two children—and on which the media’s reporting appears to have relied—contains shocking mistakes and untruths. Andrea talks to someone close to the case to set the record straight.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Bonus: Questions Answered</title>
      <description>In this bonus episode my producer Tina Nole from Larj Media and I respond to some of the questions that came up about Season 1, break down a few myths about Munchausen Syndrom By Proxy (Medical Child Abuse) and we’ll preview what’s coming up June 15th when we release Season 2 of the show.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Jun 2023 20:10:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this bonus episode my producer Tina Nole from Larj Media and I respond to some of the questions that came up about Season 1, break down a few myths about Munchausen Syndrom By Proxy (Medical Child Abuse) and we’ll preview what’s coming up June 15th when we release Season 2 of the show.
To support the show, go to https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe.
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this bonus episode my producer Tina Nole from Larj Media and I respond to some of the questions that came up about Season 1, break down a few myths about Munchausen Syndrom By Proxy (Medical Child Abuse) and we’ll preview what’s coming up June 15th when we release Season 2 of the show.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme</a>  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a>.</p><p>***</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Bonus: Unabridged conversation with Dr. Mary Sanders</title>
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      <description>Listen to Andrea’s full conversation with Dr. Mary Sanders, director of child &amp; adolescent psychology at Stanford and nationally recognized expert on Munchausen by Proxy. We discuss the possibilities of treatment for perpetrators as well as the effect this abuse has on victims and how they can heal.
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children: https://www.apsac.org/
Munchausen Support: munchausensupport.com
***
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      <pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Listen to Andrea’s full conversation with Dr. Mary Sanders, director of child &amp; adolescent psychology at Stanford and nationally recognized expert on Munchausen by Proxy. We discuss the possibilities of treatment for perpetrators as well as the effect this abuse has on victims and how they can heal.
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children: https://www.apsac.org/
Munchausen Support: munchausensupport.com
***
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To support the show, go to https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe.
***
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        <![CDATA[<p>Listen to Andrea’s full conversation with Dr. Mary Sanders, director of child &amp; adolescent psychology at Stanford and nationally recognized expert on Munchausen by Proxy. We discuss the possibilities of treatment for perpetrators as well as the effect this abuse has on victims and how they can heal.</p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children: <a href="https://www.apsac.org/">https://www.apsac.org/</a></p><p>Munchausen Support: <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/c20a7476-b401-11eb-97ea-c7ffc376bf7d/podcasts/91e9dfb2-a625-11ed-b83b-6f683fea0d52/episodes/0ae7c0b6-e9f4-11ed-926f-37de80a89690/munchausensupport.com">munchausensupport.com</a></p><p>***</p><p>Buy Andrea's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme</a>  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a>.</p><p>***</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Bonus: Unabridged conversation with Dr. Jayme Coffman</title>
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      <description>Listen to Andrea’s full conversation with Dr. Jayme Coffman, the child abuse pediatrician who runs the CARE team at Cook Children’s Hospital in Tarrant County where much of our stories takes place. She shares with us the behind-the-scenes process of determining abuse, what it’s like for doctors to get caught up in one of these cases, and why this abuse is so misunderstood. 
Cook Children’s: https://www.cookchildrens.org/  
Munchausen Support: munchausensupport.com
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe.
***
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      <pubDate>Thu, 04 May 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Listen to Andrea’s full conversation with Dr. Jayme Coffman, the child abuse pediatrician who runs the CARE team at Cook Children’s Hospital in Tarrant County where much of our stories takes place. She shares with us the behind-the-scenes process of determining abuse, what it’s like for doctors to get caught up in one of these cases, and why this abuse is so misunderstood. 
Cook Children’s: https://www.cookchildrens.org/  
Munchausen Support: munchausensupport.com
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe.
***
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        <![CDATA[<p>Listen to Andrea’s full conversation with Dr. Jayme Coffman, the child abuse pediatrician who runs the CARE team at Cook Children’s Hospital in Tarrant County where much of our stories takes place. She shares with us the behind-the-scenes process of determining abuse, what it’s like for doctors to get caught up in one of these cases, and why this abuse is so misunderstood. </p><p>Cook Children’s: <a href="https://www.cookchildrens.org/">https://www.cookchildrens.org/</a>  </p><p>Munchausen Support: <a href="munchausensupport.com">munchausensupport.com</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme</a>  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a>.</p><p>***</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Bonus: Unabridged Conversation with Dr. Marc Feldman</title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com</link>
      <description>In today's bonus episode, we share Andrea's unabridged conversation with Dr. Marc Feldman, one of the experts we heard from throughout season one of the show. Dr. Marc Feldman is a Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at the University of Alabama,Tuscaloosa and an internationally renowned expert on Munchausen by Proxy.
He is the author of five books, more than one hundred peer-reviewed articles, and has appeared as an expert in dozens of television programs, print media, and documentaries throughout the world. Dr. Feldman is a longtime member of the APSAC’s MBP committee and originally nominated Andrea as a member. 
 
More about Dr. Feldman: 
https://www.munchausen.com/ 
Munchausen by Proxy is a serious and widely-misunderstood form of child abuse. It can result in a wide swath of destruction and trauma for everyone involved and lifelong devastation for survivors.
Munchausen Support was created in collaboration with some of the world’s top experts and provides science- and fact-based information about Munchausen by Proxy.
It is also intended to offer resources and support for professionals in the midst of a case, family members in crisis, and survivors seeking treatment.
https://www.munchausensupport.com
***
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      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Apr 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Bonus episode of the conversation with Dr. Marc Feldman Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at the University of Alabama,Tuscaloosa</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In today's bonus episode, we share Andrea's unabridged conversation with Dr. Marc Feldman, one of the experts we heard from throughout season one of the show. Dr. Marc Feldman is a Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at the University of Alabama,Tuscaloosa and an internationally renowned expert on Munchausen by Proxy.
He is the author of five books, more than one hundred peer-reviewed articles, and has appeared as an expert in dozens of television programs, print media, and documentaries throughout the world. Dr. Feldman is a longtime member of the APSAC’s MBP committee and originally nominated Andrea as a member. 
 
More about Dr. Feldman: 
https://www.munchausen.com/ 
Munchausen by Proxy is a serious and widely-misunderstood form of child abuse. It can result in a wide swath of destruction and trauma for everyone involved and lifelong devastation for survivors.
Munchausen Support was created in collaboration with some of the world’s top experts and provides science- and fact-based information about Munchausen by Proxy.
It is also intended to offer resources and support for professionals in the midst of a case, family members in crisis, and survivors seeking treatment.
https://www.munchausensupport.com
***
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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In today's bonus episode, we share Andrea's unabridged conversation with Dr. Marc Feldman, one of the experts we heard from throughout season one of the show. Dr. Marc Feldman is a Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at the University of Alabama,Tuscaloosa and an internationally renowned expert on Munchausen by Proxy.</p><p>He is the author of five books, more than one hundred peer-reviewed articles, and has appeared as an expert in dozens of television programs, print media, and documentaries throughout the world. Dr. Feldman is a longtime member of the APSAC’s MBP committee and originally nominated Andrea as a member. </p><p> </p><p>More about Dr. Feldman: </p><p><a href="https://www.munchausen.com/">https://www.munchausen.com/ </a></p><p>Munchausen by Proxy is a serious and widely-misunderstood form of child abuse. It can result in a wide swath of destruction and trauma for everyone involved and lifelong devastation for survivors.</p><p>Munchausen Support was created in collaboration with some of the world’s top experts and provides science- and fact-based information about Munchausen by Proxy.</p><p>It is also intended to offer resources and support for professionals in the midst of a case, family members in crisis, and survivors seeking treatment.</p><p><a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">https://www.munchausensupport.com</a></p><p>***</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p>Buy Andrea's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme</a>  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Bonus: The Making Of</title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com</link>
      <description>Andrea and her Producer Tina at Larj Media talk about how the show came to be, the journey towards finding and talking with Hope Ybarra and what you can look forward to for season 2 of the show.
***
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To support the show, go to https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe. 
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      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2022 19:48:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Bonus: The Making Of</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Andrea and her Producer Tina at Larj Media talk about how the show came to be, the journey towards finding and talking with Hope Ybarra and what you can look forward to for season 2 of the show.    </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Andrea and her Producer Tina at Larj Media talk about how the show came to be, the journey towards finding and talking with Hope Ybarra and what you can look forward to for season 2 of the show.
***
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To support the show, go to https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe. 
***
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        <![CDATA[<p>Andrea and her Producer Tina at Larj Media talk about how the show came to be, the journey towards finding and talking with Hope Ybarra and what you can look forward to for season 2 of the show.</p><p>***</p><p>Buy Andrea's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme</a>  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a>. </p><p>***</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2316</itunes:duration>
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      <title>There's Hope  (S1E8 - Season 1 Finale)</title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/theres-hope/</link>
      <description>Andrea has made an intense connection with Hope Ybarra's family, and asked experts, doctors, and the detective so many of her burning questions about Munchausen by Proxy. But she's become increasingly fixated on talking to Hope herself as she comes to realize that it may be her only chance to get the insights she needs. In this stunning season one finale, Andrea travels to Mountain Home, Idaho, to meet with Hope Ybarra.
In this intense, emotional back-and-forth, we hear straight from Hope what life is like for her after being released from prison. We find out what she's up to and what she hopes for from the future. Hope listens to her own family—all of whom she's estranged from with the exception of Robin—talk about what she was like before everything fell apart. She insists that she still loves her children, despite what she did. We see the human being behind the monstrous acts that splashed Hope's story across headlines and landed her in prison for a decade. 
Andrea asks Hope what might have been done to help her and what she might say to her younger self if she could go back. Finally, she tells Hope that if she really wants her family back, she should get treatment and offers to help her if she wants that. 
Hope is friendly and warm in person, but Andrea is left with the unsettling truth that she hasn't changed. 
* * *
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos:  @andreadunlop 
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      <pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2022 09:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>There's Hope  (Season 1 Finale)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Andrea has made an intense connection with Hope Ybarra's family, and asked experts, doctors, and the detective so many of her burning questions about Munchausen by Proxy. But she's become increasingly fixated on talking to Hope herself as she comes to...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Andrea has made an intense connection with Hope Ybarra's family, and asked experts, doctors, and the detective so many of her burning questions about Munchausen by Proxy. But she's become increasingly fixated on talking to Hope herself as she comes to realize that it may be her only chance to get the insights she needs. In this stunning season one finale, Andrea travels to Mountain Home, Idaho, to meet with Hope Ybarra.
In this intense, emotional back-and-forth, we hear straight from Hope what life is like for her after being released from prison. We find out what she's up to and what she hopes for from the future. Hope listens to her own family—all of whom she's estranged from with the exception of Robin—talk about what she was like before everything fell apart. She insists that she still loves her children, despite what she did. We see the human being behind the monstrous acts that splashed Hope's story across headlines and landed her in prison for a decade. 
Andrea asks Hope what might have been done to help her and what she might say to her younger self if she could go back. Finally, she tells Hope that if she really wants her family back, she should get treatment and offers to help her if she wants that. 
Hope is friendly and warm in person, but Andrea is left with the unsettling truth that she hasn't changed. 
* * *
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos:  @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe. 
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        <![CDATA[<p>Andrea has made an intense connection with Hope Ybarra's family, and asked experts, doctors, and the detective so many of her burning questions about Munchausen by Proxy. But she's become increasingly fixated on talking to Hope herself as she comes to realize that it may be her only chance to get the insights she needs. In this stunning season one finale, Andrea travels to Mountain Home, Idaho, to meet with Hope Ybarra.</p><p>In this intense, emotional back-and-forth, we hear straight from Hope what life is like for her after being released from prison. We find out what she's up to and what she hopes for from the future. Hope listens to her own family—all of whom she's estranged from with the exception of Robin—talk about what she was like before everything fell apart. She insists that she still loves her children, despite what she did. We see the human being behind the monstrous acts that splashed Hope's story across headlines and landed her in prison for a decade. </p><p>Andrea asks Hope what might have been done to help her and what she might say to her younger self if she could go back. Finally, she tells Hope that if she really wants her family back, she should get treatment and offers to help her if she wants that. </p><p>Hope is friendly and warm in person, but Andrea is left with the unsettling truth that she hasn't changed. </p><p>* * *</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos:  <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme</a>  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a>. </p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a> </p><p>***</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Can They Be Saved?  (S1E7)</title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/can-they-be-saved/</link>
      <description>Andrea delves deep into her questions around the psychopathology of Munchausen by Proxy perpetrators. Floored by the similarities in the many cases she’s researched, she talks to two of the world's foremost experts on the disorder—Dr. Marc Feldman and Dr. Mary Sanders—about the characteristics, warning signs, and causes of the disorder that has upended the lives of so many people Andrea has spoken to throughout the course of the podcast. Why would a mother ever do this? What do they get from it? And most importantly, what could be done to stop them? Is it possible for someone who does these things to get treatment?
* * *
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      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2022 11:31:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Can They Be Saved?</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Andrea delves deep into her questions around the psychopathology of Munchausen by Proxy perpetrators. Floored by the similarities in the many cases she’s researched, she talks to two of the world's foremost experts on the disorder—Dr. Marc Feldman...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Andrea delves deep into her questions around the psychopathology of Munchausen by Proxy perpetrators. Floored by the similarities in the many cases she’s researched, she talks to two of the world's foremost experts on the disorder—Dr. Marc Feldman and Dr. Mary Sanders—about the characteristics, warning signs, and causes of the disorder that has upended the lives of so many people Andrea has spoken to throughout the course of the podcast. Why would a mother ever do this? What do they get from it? And most importantly, what could be done to stop them? Is it possible for someone who does these things to get treatment?
* * *
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe.
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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Andrea delves deep into her questions around the psychopathology of Munchausen by Proxy perpetrators. Floored by the similarities in the many cases she’s researched, she talks to two of the world's foremost experts on the disorder—Dr. Marc Feldman and Dr. Mary Sanders—about the characteristics, warning signs, and causes of the disorder that has upended the lives of so many people Andrea has spoken to throughout the course of the podcast. Why would a mother ever do this? What do they get from it? And most importantly, what could be done to stop them? Is it possible for someone who does these things to get treatment?</p><p>* * *</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme</a>  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a>.</p><p>***</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a>  </p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2232</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Sisters Surviving  (S1E6)</title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/the-blast-zone/</link>
      <description>As Andrea contemplates what the future looks like for survivors of Munchausen by Proxy, she gets an unexpected message from two young women who’ve lived it. After appearing with Marc Feldman on a podcast, Andrea hears from twin-sisters who survived MBP.
Liz and Erica Handt were taken from one terrifying situation to another when the foster mom who adopted them turns out to be abusive, telling the girls they had Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and dragging them from specialist to specialist. The twins' story is harrowing but ultimately hopeful as they're now thriving.
* * *
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
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For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
For more about the Handt twins: https://lotusesinbloom.com/ 
Erica’s Instagram: Erica Blake (Handt) (@erica_a_blake) • Instagram photos and videos 
Liz’s Instagram: Liz | Mental Health + Healing (@lizhandt) • Instagram photos and videos 
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      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2022 13:09:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Sisters Surviving</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>As Andrea contemplates what the future looks like for survivors of Munchausen by Proxy, she gets an unexpected message from two young women who’ve lived it. After appearing with Marc Feldman on a podcast, Andrea hears from twin-sisters who survived...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>As Andrea contemplates what the future looks like for survivors of Munchausen by Proxy, she gets an unexpected message from two young women who’ve lived it. After appearing with Marc Feldman on a podcast, Andrea hears from twin-sisters who survived MBP.
Liz and Erica Handt were taken from one terrifying situation to another when the foster mom who adopted them turns out to be abusive, telling the girls they had Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and dragging them from specialist to specialist. The twins' story is harrowing but ultimately hopeful as they're now thriving.
* * *
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
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To support the show, go to https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
For more about the Handt twins: https://lotusesinbloom.com/ 
Erica’s Instagram: Erica Blake (Handt) (@erica_a_blake) • Instagram photos and videos 
Liz’s Instagram: Liz | Mental Health + Healing (@lizhandt) • Instagram photos and videos 
***
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        <![CDATA[<p>As Andrea contemplates what the future looks like for survivors of Munchausen by Proxy, she gets an unexpected message from two young women who’ve lived it. After appearing with Marc Feldman on a podcast, Andrea hears from twin-sisters who survived MBP.</p><p>Liz and Erica Handt were taken from one terrifying situation to another when the foster mom who adopted them turns out to be abusive, telling the girls they had Fetal Alcohol Syndrome and dragging them from specialist to specialist. The twins' story is harrowing but ultimately hopeful as they're now thriving.</p><p>* * *</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme</a>  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a>.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a> </p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>. </p><p>For more about the Handt twins: <a href="https://lotusesinbloom.com/">https://lotusesinbloom.com/</a> </p><p>Erica’s Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/erica_a_blake/">Erica Blake (Handt) (@erica_a_blake) • Instagram photos and videos</a> </p><p>Liz’s Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lizhandt/">Liz | Mental Health + Healing (@lizhandt) • Instagram photos and videos</a> </p><p>***</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2027</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Bonus Episode: Meet Doug Welch</title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com</link>
      <description>Right before his story was released in episode five of NOBODY SHOULD BELIEVE ME, the father we referred to as “John” changed his mind about wanting to share his story anonymously after he learned a terrifying piece of news about his son. Now, Doug Welch shares the events that led up to his decision, where things stand in his family now, and what he wants his kids to know.
Coverage of the case against Mary Welch 
 https://www.kare11.com/article/news/investigations/mother-at-center-of-investigation-is-indicted/89-105671356
Detective Mike Weber’s arrest warrant for Mary Welch
https://bit.ly/ArrestWarrent
***
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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2022 18:27:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Bonus Episode: Meet Doug Welch</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/9e68a624-a625-11ed-88b9-83f1f25febad/image/5d220896c571fd2ff2419cf7189c11ec.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Right before his story was released in episode five of NOBODY SHOULD BELIEVE ME, the father we referred to as “John” changed his mind about wanting to share his story anonymously after he learned a terrifying piece of news about his son. Now, Doug...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Right before his story was released in episode five of NOBODY SHOULD BELIEVE ME, the father we referred to as “John” changed his mind about wanting to share his story anonymously after he learned a terrifying piece of news about his son. Now, Doug Welch shares the events that led up to his decision, where things stand in his family now, and what he wants his kids to know.
Coverage of the case against Mary Welch 
 https://www.kare11.com/article/news/investigations/mother-at-center-of-investigation-is-indicted/89-105671356
Detective Mike Weber’s arrest warrant for Mary Welch
https://bit.ly/ArrestWarrent
***
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        <![CDATA[<p>Right before his story was released in episode five of NOBODY SHOULD BELIEVE ME, the father we referred to as “John” changed his mind about wanting to share his story anonymously after he learned a terrifying piece of news about his son. Now, Doug Welch shares the events that led up to his decision, where things stand in his family now, and what he wants his kids to know.</p><p>Coverage of the case against Mary Welch </p><p><a href="https://www.kare11.com/article/news/investigations/mother-at-center-of-investigation-is-indicted/89-105671356"> https://www.kare11.com/article/news/investigations/mother-at-center-of-investigation-is-indicted/89-105671356</a></p><p>Detective Mike Weber’s arrest warrant for Mary Welch</p><p><a href="https://bit.ly/ArrestWarrent">https://bit.ly/ArrestWarrent</a></p><p>***</p><p>Buy Andrea's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme</a>  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a>.</p><p>***</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Nobody Would Believe Me: Dads Part 2  (S1E5)</title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nobody-would-believe-me-part-two/</link>
      <description>As we learn from Detective Mike Weber, the father in a Munchausen by Proxy case can be the most important ally--or the biggest obstacle--in protecting child victims from abuse. In part two of Andrea’s examination of the father’s role in MBP cases, Andrea speaks to “John”, a father devastated but the revelation that his ex-wife had subjected their son to unnecessary brain surgery. We also talk to Ryan Crawford, a man who found himself fighting for his son’s life against a disbelieving system.
Plus we get a stunning real-time update on one of our cases as “John” decides to come forward with his true identity.  
***
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Buy Andrea's books here.
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For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
More about Ryan Crawford’s story: https://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2019/august/the-boy-who-stayed-sick/ 
https://mikeweberconsulting.com/ 
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      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2022 10:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Nobody Would Believe Me: Dads Part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>As we learn from Detective Mike Weber, the father in a Munchausen by Proxy case can be the most important ally--or the biggest obstacle--in protecting child victims from abuse. In part two of Andrea’s examination of the father’s role in MBP cases,...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>As we learn from Detective Mike Weber, the father in a Munchausen by Proxy case can be the most important ally--or the biggest obstacle--in protecting child victims from abuse. In part two of Andrea’s examination of the father’s role in MBP cases, Andrea speaks to “John”, a father devastated but the revelation that his ex-wife had subjected their son to unnecessary brain surgery. We also talk to Ryan Crawford, a man who found himself fighting for his son’s life against a disbelieving system.
Plus we get a stunning real-time update on one of our cases as “John” decides to come forward with his true identity.  
***
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here. 
More about Ryan Crawford’s story: https://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2019/august/the-boy-who-stayed-sick/ 
https://mikeweberconsulting.com/ 
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        <![CDATA[<p>As we learn from Detective Mike Weber, the father in a Munchausen by Proxy case can be the most important ally--or the biggest obstacle--in protecting child victims from abuse. In part two of Andrea’s examination of the father’s role in MBP cases, Andrea speaks to “John”, a father devastated but the revelation that his ex-wife had subjected their son to unnecessary brain surgery. We also talk to Ryan Crawford, a man who found himself fighting for his son’s life against a disbelieving system.</p><p>Plus we get a stunning real-time update on one of our cases as “John” decides to come forward with his true identity.  </p><p>***</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme</a>  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a>.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a> </p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>. </p><p>More about Ryan Crawford’s story: https://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2019/august/the-boy-who-stayed-sick/ </p><p><a href="https://mikeweberconsulting.com/">https://mikeweberconsulting.com/</a> </p><p>***</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Nobody Would Believe Me: Dads Part 1  (S1E4)</title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/nobody-would-believe-me/</link>
      <description>As we learn from Detective Mike Weber, the father in a Munchausen by Proxy case can be the most important ally--or the biggest obstacle--in protecting child victims from abuse. We learn more about how Andrea’s own family became divided during the first investigation into her sister and we meet George Hunnicut, a veteran who discovered his young wife was abusing their infant son and found himself up against a system that had no idea what to do for him.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
For more about Mike Weber, visit https://mikeweberconsulting.com/
More about George Hunnicut’s story:
https://media.star-telegram.com/Munchausenmoms/
More about Ryan Crawford’s story:  https://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2019/august/the-boy-who-stayed-sick/
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      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Nobody Would Believe Me: Dads Part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>As we learn from Detective Mike Weber, the father in a Munchausen by Proxy case can be the most important ally--or the biggest obstacle--in protecting child victims from abuse.  We learn more about how Andrea’s own family became divided during...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>As we learn from Detective Mike Weber, the father in a Munchausen by Proxy case can be the most important ally--or the biggest obstacle--in protecting child victims from abuse. We learn more about how Andrea’s own family became divided during the first investigation into her sister and we meet George Hunnicut, a veteran who discovered his young wife was abusing their infant son and found himself up against a system that had no idea what to do for him.
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
For more about Mike Weber, visit https://mikeweberconsulting.com/
More about George Hunnicut’s story:
https://media.star-telegram.com/Munchausenmoms/
More about Ryan Crawford’s story:  https://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2019/august/the-boy-who-stayed-sick/
***
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        <![CDATA[<p>As we learn from Detective Mike Weber, the father in a Munchausen by Proxy case can be the most important ally--or the biggest obstacle--in protecting child victims from abuse. We learn more about how Andrea’s own family became divided during the first investigation into her sister and we meet George Hunnicut, a veteran who discovered his young wife was abusing their infant son and found himself up against a system that had no idea what to do for him.</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme</a>  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a>.</p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p>For more about Mike Weber, visit <a href="https://mikeweberconsulting.com/">https://mikeweberconsulting.com/</a></p><p>More about George Hunnicut’s story:</p><p><a href="https://media.star-telegram.com/Munchausenmoms/">https://media.star-telegram.com/Munchausenmoms/</a></p><p>More about Ryan Crawford’s story: <a href="https://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2019/august/the-boy-who-stayed-sick/"> https://www.dmagazine.com/publications/d-magazine/2019/august/the-boy-who-stayed-sick/</a></p><p>***</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show!</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>What’s in the Water in Tarrant County?  (S1E3)</title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/whats-in-the-water-in-tarrant-county/</link>
      <description>Andrea speaks to Deanna Boyd, the crime reporter who broke the Hope Ybarra case and discovers that Hope's was one of many Munchausen By Proxy cases in Tarrant County that Deanna unearthed; all of which had flown under the radar. What's going on here? Why are there so many cases in this one area?
As Andrea interviews Deanna and meets with Detective Mike Weber, as well as Dr. Jayme Coffman and Dr. Karen Shultz--two doctors involved with the Ybarra and many other MBP cases--she makes a chilling discovery. It's not that there are so many cases in Tarrant County, it's just that they're catching them. If the systems meant to protect children were functioning, every county would look like Tarrant.
Andrea can only guess as to what truly went on behind the scenes in her own family's case, but she begins to grasp what the systems involved--CPS, the police, the doctors--are up against and why so many cases are destined to fail. Meanwhile, Andrea continues her maddening back-and-forth with Hope.
***
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
For more about Mike Weber, visit https://mikeweberconsulting.com/
Read Deanna Boyd’s original reporting: https://media.star-telegram.com/Munchausenmoms/
***
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      <pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>What’s in the Water in Tarrant County?</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Andrea speaks to Deanna Boyd, the crime reporter who broke the Hope Ybarra case and discovers that Hope's was one of many Munchausen By Proxy cases in Tarrant County that Deanna unearthed; all of which had flown under the radar. What's going on here?...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Andrea speaks to Deanna Boyd, the crime reporter who broke the Hope Ybarra case and discovers that Hope's was one of many Munchausen By Proxy cases in Tarrant County that Deanna unearthed; all of which had flown under the radar. What's going on here? Why are there so many cases in this one area?
As Andrea interviews Deanna and meets with Detective Mike Weber, as well as Dr. Jayme Coffman and Dr. Karen Shultz--two doctors involved with the Ybarra and many other MBP cases--she makes a chilling discovery. It's not that there are so many cases in Tarrant County, it's just that they're catching them. If the systems meant to protect children were functioning, every county would look like Tarrant.
Andrea can only guess as to what truly went on behind the scenes in her own family's case, but she begins to grasp what the systems involved--CPS, the police, the doctors--are up against and why so many cases are destined to fail. Meanwhile, Andrea continues her maddening back-and-forth with Hope.
***
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.
For more about Mike Weber, visit https://mikeweberconsulting.com/
Read Deanna Boyd’s original reporting: https://media.star-telegram.com/Munchausenmoms/
***
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        <![CDATA[<p>Andrea speaks to Deanna Boyd, the crime reporter who broke the Hope Ybarra case and discovers that Hope's was one of many Munchausen By Proxy cases in Tarrant County that Deanna unearthed; all of which had flown under the radar. What's going on here? Why are there so many cases in this one area?</p><p>As Andrea interviews Deanna and meets with Detective Mike Weber, as well as Dr. Jayme Coffman and Dr. Karen Shultz--two doctors involved with the Ybarra and many other MBP cases--she makes a chilling discovery. It's not that there are so many cases in Tarrant County, it's just that they're catching them. If the systems meant to protect children were functioning, every county would look like Tarrant.</p><p>Andrea can only guess as to what truly went on behind the scenes in her own family's case, but she begins to grasp what the systems involved--CPS, the police, the doctors--are up against and why so many cases are destined to fail. Meanwhile, Andrea continues her maddening back-and-forth with Hope.</p><p>***</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a></p><p>Buy Andrea's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme</a>  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a></p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.</p><p>For more about Mike Weber, visit <a href="https://mikeweberconsulting.com/">https://mikeweberconsulting.com/</a></p><p>Read Deanna Boyd’s original reporting: https://media.star-telegram.com/Munchausenmoms/</p><p>***</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Who is Hope?  (S1E2)</title>
      <link>https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/who-is-hope/</link>
      <description>We delve deeper into the story of Hope Ybarra, a young mother whose family discovers she’s been faking her eight-year-long battle with terminal cancer and begins to suspect her own health isn’t all she’s lying about. We talk more to Hope’s family and her ex-husband Fabian Ybarra about their efforts to unravel Hope’s many sinister deceptions. 
We meet Detective Mike Weber, who was responsible for investigating Hope Ybarra, an early foray into what would become the main focus of his career: Munchausen by Proxy.
* * *
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to  Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.  
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.  
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com 
* * *
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
To support the show, go to https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.  
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com 
***
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      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2022 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Who is Hope?</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>True Story Media </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>We delve deeper into the story of Hope Ybarra, a young mother whose family discovers she’s been faking her eight-year-long battle with terminal cancer and begins to suspect her own health isn’t all she’s lying about. We talk more to Hope’s...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We delve deeper into the story of Hope Ybarra, a young mother whose family discovers she’s been faking her eight-year-long battle with terminal cancer and begins to suspect her own health isn’t all she’s lying about. We talk more to Hope’s family and her ex-husband Fabian Ybarra about their efforts to unravel Hope’s many sinister deceptions. 
We meet Detective Mike Weber, who was responsible for investigating Hope Ybarra, an early foray into what would become the main focus of his career: Munchausen by Proxy.
* * *
Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to  Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe or subscribe on Apple Podcasts where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.  
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.  
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com 
* * *
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
To support the show, go to https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe.

For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.  
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com 
***
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        <![CDATA[<p>We delve deeper into the story of Hope Ybarra, a young mother whose family discovers she’s been faking her eight-year-long battle with terminal cancer and begins to suspect her own health isn’t all she’s lying about. We talk more to Hope’s family and her ex-husband Fabian Ybarra about their efforts to unravel Hope’s many sinister deceptions. </p><p>We meet Detective Mike Weber, who was responsible for investigating Hope Ybarra, an early foray into what would become the main focus of his career: Munchausen by Proxy.</p><p>* * *</p><p>Follow Andrea on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>Buy Andrea's <a href="https://www.amazon.com/stores/Andrea-Dunlop/author/B005VFWJPI">books here</a>.</p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://www.patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe"> Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a> or subscribe on <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">Apple Podcasts</a> where you can get all episodes early and ad-free and access exclusive bonus content.  </p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a> </p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://www.apsac.org/9235fgnl8">here</a>.  </p><p>To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit <a href="https://www.munchausen.com/">Munchausen.com</a> </p><p><em>* * *</em></p><p>Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/andreadunlop/">@andreadunlop</a> </p><p>To support the show, go to <a href="https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme">https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme</a>  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to <a href="http://patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe">Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit <a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/">MunchausenSupport.com</a> </p><p>The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded <a href="https://apsac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/Munchausen-by-Proxy-Clinical-and-Case-Management-Guidance-.pdf">here</a>.  </p><p>To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit <a href="https://www.munchausen.com/">Munchausen.com</a> </p><p>***</p><p>Click <a href="https://www.nobodyshouldbelieveme.com/sponsors/">here</a> to view our sponsors. Remember that using our codes helps advertisers know you’re listening and helps us keep making the show! </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <description>We meet accomplished novelist and loving mother Andrea Dunlop as she embarks on a journey to understand the series of events that tore her family apart. We learn that her older sister has been investigated twice for Munchausen by Proxy abuse, which inspired Andrea to learn everything she could about this complex and misunderstood issue. We see Andrea become captivated by the story of Hope Ybarra and go along with her to meet Hope’s father, sister, and brother: the first people Andrea has ever spoken to who’ve actually lived through a case. But can anything prepare Andrea for the truth?
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Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.  
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com 
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* * *
Follow host Andrea Dunlop on Instagram for behind-the-scenes photos: @andreadunlop 
Buy Andrea's books here.
To support the show, go to https://apple.co/nobodyshouldbelieveme  to listen on Apple Podcasts and just click ‘Subscribe’ on the top of the show page to listen to exclusive bonus content and access all episodes early and ad-free or go to Patreon.com/NobodyShouldBelieveMe.
For more information and resources on Munchausen by Proxy, please visit MunchausenSupport.com 
The American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children’s MBP Practice Guidelines can be downloaded here.  
To learn more about Dr. Marc Feldman, visit Munchausen.com 
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Along the way, she becomes captivated by the case of Hope Ybarra: Dunlop speaks to those most familiar with the case, from the reporter who broke the story, to the detective who investigated it, to the family who lived through it. In the dramatic finale, she’ll speak to Hope Ybarra herself.​ 
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Along the way, she becomes captivated by the case of Hope Ybarra: Dunlop speaks to those most familiar with the case, from the reporter who broke the story, to the detective who investigated it, to the family who lived through it. In the dramatic finale, she’ll speak to Hope Ybarra herself.​ 
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