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    <title>Things Not Seen Podcast</title>
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    <copyright>Sandburg Media, LLC</copyright>
    <description>"Things Not Seen" talks with people of faith who are working to make sense of why we are here and how we can all live together despite our deep differences in belief. The show is hosted by Dr. David Dault, and features guests from a broad spectrum of public life, with in-depth conversations about real struggles at the intersection of faith and culture.</description>
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    <itunes:subtitle>Things Not Seen: Conversations about Culture and Faith, hosted by David Dault. The program features guests from a broad spectrum of public life, with in-depth conversations about real struggles at the intersection of faith and culture.</itunes:subtitle>
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    <itunes:summary>"Things Not Seen" talks with people of faith who are working to make sense of why we are here and how we can all live together despite our deep differences in belief. The show is hosted by Dr. David Dault, and features guests from a broad spectrum of public life, with in-depth conversations about real struggles at the intersection of faith and culture.</itunes:summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p>"Things Not Seen" talks with people of faith who are working to make sense of why we are here and how we can all live together despite our deep differences in belief. The show is hosted by Dr. David Dault, and features guests from a broad spectrum of public life, with in-depth conversations about real struggles at the intersection of faith and culture.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:name>Sandburg Media LLC</itunes:name>
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      <title>#2610 - Experiencing God: Jon M. Sweeney</title>
      <description>Jon M. Sweeney introduces us to 36 ways to understand God through the wisdom of Saint Francis. Francis of Assisi was spiritual before anyone used that word, and he was religious in the best ways. We love him because he cut through the paraphernalia to get back to religion where it belongs: working in the human heart, making a difference in everyday life.




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      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2026 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Experiencing God: Jon M. Sweeney</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>26</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Jon M. Sweeney introduces us to 36 ways to understand God through the wisdom of Saint Francis. Francis of Assisi was spiritual before anyone used that word, and he was religious in the best ways. We love him because he cut through the paraphernalia to get back to religion where it belongs: working in the human heart, making a difference in everyday life.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Jon M. Sweeney introduces us to 36 ways to understand God through the wisdom of Saint Francis. Francis of Assisi was spiritual before anyone used that word, and he was religious in the best ways. We love him because he cut through the paraphernalia to get back to religion where it belongs: working in the human heart, making a difference in everyday life.




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        <![CDATA[<p>Jon M. Sweeney introduces us to 36 ways to understand God through the wisdom of Saint Francis. Francis of Assisi was spiritual before anyone used that word, and he was religious in the best ways. We love him because he cut through the paraphernalia to get back to religion where it belongs: working in the human heart, making a difference in everyday life.</p>
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      <itunes:duration>3538</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2429 - Ethics for a Digital Age: Kate Ott [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Our guest Kate Ott discusses her recent book, Sex, Tech, &amp; Faith, inviting readers into a realistic conversation about ethics in the 21st century
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      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2024 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Ethics for a Digital Age: Kate Ott [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Kate Ott discusses her recent book, Sex, Tech, &amp; Faith, inviting readers into a realistic conversation about ethics in the 21st century</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Kate Ott discusses her recent book, Sex, Tech, &amp; Faith, inviting readers into a realistic conversation about ethics in the 21st century
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Kate Ott discusses her recent book, Sex, Tech, &amp; Faith, inviting readers into a realistic conversation about ethics in the 21st century</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3736</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2428 - Consent in the Garden: Timothy Morton</title>
      <description>Our guest, Timothy Morton, argues that there is an unexpected yet profound relationship between religion and ecology that can guide a planet-scale response to the climate crisis. Spiritual and mystical feelings have a deep resonance with ecological thinking, and together they provide the resources environmentalism desperately needs in this time of climate emergency. We discuss his recent book, Hell: In Search of a Christian Ecology.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 14 Jul 2024 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Consent in the Garden: Timothy Morton</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Timothy Morton, argues that there is an unexpected yet profound relationship between religion and ecology that can guide a planet-scale response to the climate crisis. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Timothy Morton, argues that there is an unexpected yet profound relationship between religion and ecology that can guide a planet-scale response to the climate crisis. Spiritual and mystical feelings have a deep resonance with ecological thinking, and together they provide the resources environmentalism desperately needs in this time of climate emergency. We discuss his recent book, Hell: In Search of a Christian Ecology.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Timothy Morton, argues that there is an unexpected yet profound relationship between religion and ecology that can guide a planet-scale response to the climate crisis. Spiritual and mystical feelings have a deep resonance with ecological thinking, and together they provide the resources environmentalism desperately needs in this time of climate emergency. We discuss his recent book, <em>Hell: In Search of a Christian Ecology.</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>4365</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2427 - Who Is a True Christian?: David W. Congdon</title>
      <description>Our guest, David W. Congdon tells the story of how 20th-century American Christians have repeatedly sought and failed to define and defend a "pure" form of Christianity. We discuss his recent book, Who Is a True Christian?: Contesting Religious Identity in American Culture.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 07 Jul 2024 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Who Is a True Christian?: David W. Congdon</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Our guest, David W. Congdon tells the story of how 20th-century American Christians have repeatedly sought and failed to define and defend a "pure" form of Christianity. We discuss his recent book, Who Is a True Christian?: Contesting Religious Identity in American Culture.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, David W. Congdon tells the story of how 20th-century American Christians have repeatedly sought and failed to define and defend a "pure" form of Christianity. We discuss his recent book, <em>Who Is a True Christian?: Contesting Religious Identity in American Culture.</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3633</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2426 - Building Beloved Community: Jacob L. Goodson and Brad Elliott Stone [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We welcome back to the show philosophers Jacob Goodson and Brad Elliott Stone to talk about their recent book, co-authored with Pastor Philip Rudolph Kuehnert, Building Beloved Community in a Wounded World
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      <pubDate>Sun, 30 Jun 2024 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Building Beloved Community: Jacob L. Goodson and Brad Elliott Stone [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>We welcome back to the show philosophers Jacob Goodson and Brad Elliott Stone to talk about their recent book, co-authored with Pastor Philip Rudolph Kuehnert, Building Beloved Community in a Wounded World</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We welcome back to the show philosophers Jacob Goodson and Brad Elliott Stone to talk about their recent book, co-authored with Pastor Philip Rudolph Kuehnert, Building Beloved Community in a Wounded World
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        <![CDATA[<p>We welcome back to the show philosophers Jacob Goodson and Brad Elliott Stone to talk about their recent book, co-authored with Pastor Philip Rudolph Kuehnert, Building Beloved Community in a Wounded World</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3767</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2425 - Engaging Thomas Merton: Daniel P. Horan</title>
      <description>Our guest, Daniel P. Horan, returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his recent book, Engaging Thomas Merton: Spirituality, Justice, and Racism. This important book is based on contemporary engagements with the work and legacy of Thomas Merton that highlight the enduring relevance of his thought in addressing the pressing concerns of our time.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 23 Jun 2024 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Engaging Thomas Merton: Daniel P. Horan</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Daniel P. Horan, returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his recent book, Engaging Thomas Merton: Spirituality, Justice, and Racism. This important book is based on contemporary engagements with the work and legacy of Thomas Merton that highlight the enduring relevance of his thought in addressing the pressing concerns of our time.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Daniel P. Horan, returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his recent book, Engaging Thomas Merton: Spirituality, Justice, and Racism. This important book is based on contemporary engagements with the work and legacy of Thomas Merton that highlight the enduring relevance of his thought in addressing the pressing concerns of our time.
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Daniel P. Horan, returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his recent book, <em>Engaging Thomas Merton: Spirituality, Justice, and Racism. </em>This important book is based on contemporary engagements with the work and legacy of Thomas Merton that highlight the enduring relevance of his thought in addressing the pressing concerns of our time.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3825</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2424 - Becoming Brave for Racial Justice: Brenda Salter McNeil [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Looking through the lens of the biblical narrative of Esther, our guest Brenda Salter McNeil challenges Christians to recognize the pain in our world so they can work together to repair what is broken.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 16 Jun 2024 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Becoming Brave for Racial Justice: Brenda Salter McNeil [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Looking through the lens of the biblical narrative of Esther, our guest Brenda Salter McNeil challenges Christians to recognize the pain in our world so they can work together to repair what is broken.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Looking through the lens of the biblical narrative of Esther, our guest Brenda Salter McNeil challenges Christians to recognize the pain in our world so they can work together to repair what is broken.
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        <![CDATA[<p>Looking through the lens of the biblical narrative of Esther, our guest Brenda Salter McNeil challenges Christians to recognize the pain in our world so they can work together to repair what is broken.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3571</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2423 - Receiving the Gift of Our Mortality: James K. A. Smith [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Popular speaker and award-winning author James K. A. Smith returns to our show to explain that we must reckon with the past in order to discern the present and have hope for the future. In his recent book, How to Inhabit Time, Smith brings together popular culture, biblical exposition, and meditation, he helps us develop a sense of "temporal awareness" that is attuned to the texture of history, the vicissitudes of life, and the tempo of the Spirit.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 09 Jun 2024 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Receiving the Gift of Our Mortality: James K. A. Smith [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Popular speaker and award-winning author James K. A. Smith returns to our show to explain that we must reckon with the past in order to discern the present and have hope for the future. In his recent book, How to Inhabit Time, Smith brings together popular culture, biblical exposition, and meditation, he helps us develop a sense of "temporal awareness" that is attuned to the texture of history, the vicissitudes of life, and the tempo of the Spirit.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Popular speaker and award-winning author James K. A. Smith returns to our show to explain that we must reckon with the past in order to discern the present and have hope for the future. In his recent book, How to Inhabit Time, Smith brings together popular culture, biblical exposition, and meditation, he helps us develop a sense of "temporal awareness" that is attuned to the texture of history, the vicissitudes of life, and the tempo of the Spirit.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Popular speaker and award-winning author James K. A. Smith returns to our show to explain that we must reckon with the past in order to discern the present and have hope for the future. In his recent book, How to Inhabit Time, Smith brings together popular culture, biblical exposition, and meditation, he helps us develop a sense of "temporal awareness" that is attuned to the texture of history, the vicissitudes of life, and the tempo of the Spirit.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3437</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2422 - The Music of Eternity: William G. Carter</title>
      <description>In his recent book,Thriving on a Riff, Presbyterian minister and jazz pianist Bill Carter introduces us to the spiritual worlds opened up by jazz music.
From King David to Dave Brubeck, from the Psalms of Israel to John Coltrane's A Love Supreme, musicians help us glimpse the experience of music as communion with the Divine. Weaving together stories from the history of American music with his personal experiences as a working musician, Carter invites us to meet a God who not only embraces syncopation but blesses the swing.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 02 Jun 2024 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Music of Eternity: William G. Carter</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In his recent book,Thriving on a Riff, Presbyterian minister and jazz pianist Bill Carter introduces us to the spiritual worlds opened up by jazz music.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In his recent book,Thriving on a Riff, Presbyterian minister and jazz pianist Bill Carter introduces us to the spiritual worlds opened up by jazz music.
From King David to Dave Brubeck, from the Psalms of Israel to John Coltrane's A Love Supreme, musicians help us glimpse the experience of music as communion with the Divine. Weaving together stories from the history of American music with his personal experiences as a working musician, Carter invites us to meet a God who not only embraces syncopation but blesses the swing.
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        <![CDATA[<p>In his recent book,<em>Thriving on a Riff</em>, Presbyterian minister and jazz pianist Bill Carter introduces us to the spiritual worlds opened up by jazz music.</p><p>From King David to Dave Brubeck, from the Psalms of Israel to John Coltrane's <em>A Love Supreme</em>, musicians help us glimpse the experience of music as communion with the Divine. Weaving together stories from the history of American music with his personal experiences as a working musician, Carter invites us to meet a God who not only embraces syncopation but blesses the swing.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3510</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2421 - The Importance of Hope: John Blake [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Award-winning journalist John Blake tells the story of his quest to reconcile with his white mother and the family he’d never met—and how faith brought them all together.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2024 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Importance of Hope: John Blake [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/a63d5d26-5c05-11ef-81e9-33b7515494b9/image/512a6ef1b745cf5a3ccf41c7cdb86375.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Award-winning journalist John Blake tells the story of his quest to reconcile with his white mother and the family he’d never met—and how faith brought them all together.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Award-winning journalist John Blake tells the story of his quest to reconcile with his white mother and the family he’d never met—and how faith brought them all together.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Award-winning journalist John Blake tells the story of his quest to reconcile with his white mother and the family he’d never met—and how faith brought them all together.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3616</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2420 - Wounded Solidarity: Sr. Julia Walsh</title>
      <description>Sr. Julia Walsh talks about her gripping spiritual memoir, For Love of the Broken Body, chronicling her journey through religious life and traumatic injury
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      <pubDate>Sun, 19 May 2024 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Wounded Solidarity: Sr. Julia Walsh</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7b04dab4-59bf-11ef-9182-5703be48e91f/image/512a6ef1b745cf5a3ccf41c7cdb86375.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Sr. Julia Walsh talks about her gripping spiritual memoir, For Love of the Broken Body, chronicling her journey through religious life and traumatic injury</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Sr. Julia Walsh talks about her gripping spiritual memoir, For Love of the Broken Body, chronicling her journey through religious life and traumatic injury
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Sr. Julia Walsh talks about her gripping spiritual memoir, For Love of the Broken Body, chronicling her journey through religious life and traumatic injury</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3767</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2419 - The Books That Carry Us: Jon Sweeney</title>
      <description>Veteran editor and author Jon Sweeney returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his most recent work, My Life in Seventeen Books: A Literary Memoir
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      <pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2024 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Books That Carry Us: Jon Sweeney</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/84885c46-24fe-11ef-b676-0345a6e206f3/image/512a6ef1b745cf5a3ccf41c7cdb86375.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Veteran editor and author Jon Sweeney returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his most recent work, My Life in Seventeen Books: A Literary Memoir</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Veteran editor and author Jon Sweeney returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his most recent work, My Life in Seventeen Books: A Literary Memoir
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Veteran editor and author Jon Sweeney returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his most recent work, <em>My Life in Seventeen Books: A Literary Memoir</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3805</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2418 - What Is the Goal of Human Flourishing?: Chanequa Walker-Barnes [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We are joined by Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes to discuss their recent book, Sacred Self-Care: Daily Practices for Nurturing Our Whole Selves.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2024 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>What Is the Goal of Human Flourishing?: Chanequa Walker-Barnes [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2b40645a-2457-11ef-8526-03ffb8d0b908/image/512a6ef1b745cf5a3ccf41c7cdb86375.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We are joined by Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes to discuss their recent book, Sacred Self-Care: Daily Practices for Nurturing Our Whole Selves.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We are joined by Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes to discuss their recent book, Sacred Self-Care: Daily Practices for Nurturing Our Whole Selves.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We are joined by Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes to discuss their recent book, <em>Sacred Self-Care: Daily Practices for Nurturing Our Whole Selves.</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3713</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2416 - We Are Diamond Castles: Julia Feder</title>
      <description>Our guest, Julia Feder, discusses her recent book, Incarnating Grace: A Theology of Healing from Sexual Trauma. The book attempts to save our broken ways of talking about God's grace by unearthing liberating resources buried in the Christian tradition.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2024 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>We Are Diamond Castles: Julia Feder</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/eb625f28-1605-11ef-9cb8-1fca37b7fff6/image/512a6ef1b745cf5a3ccf41c7cdb86375.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Julia Feder, discusses her recent book, Incarnating Grace: A Theology of Healing from Sexual Trauma.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Julia Feder, discusses her recent book, Incarnating Grace: A Theology of Healing from Sexual Trauma. The book attempts to save our broken ways of talking about God's grace by unearthing liberating resources buried in the Christian tradition.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Julia Feder, discusses her recent book, <em>Incarnating Grace: A Theology of Healing from Sexual Trauma. </em>The book attempts to save our broken ways of talking about God's grace by unearthing liberating resources buried in the Christian tradition.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3636</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2417 - God's Provision: Anna Broadway</title>
      <description>Our guest, Anna Broadway, discusses her recent book, Solo Planet: How Singles Help the Church Recover Our Calling. Through its deeply researched account, Solo Planet shows how a more biblical approach to singleness can strengthen churches and empower singles to thrive.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 28 Apr 2024 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>God's Provision: Anna Broadway</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Anna Broadway, discusses her recent book, Solo Planet: How Singles Help the Church Recover Our Calling. ﻿</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Anna Broadway, discusses her recent book, Solo Planet: How Singles Help the Church Recover Our Calling. Through its deeply researched account, Solo Planet shows how a more biblical approach to singleness can strengthen churches and empower singles to thrive.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Anna Broadway, discusses her recent book, <em>Solo Planet: How Singles Help the Church Recover Our Calling</em>. Through its deeply researched account, Solo Planet shows how a more biblical approach to singleness can strengthen churches and empower singles to thrive.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>4005</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2315 - Lean into Fragility and Mystery: Donna Freitas</title>
      <description>Our guest, Donna Freitas, talks about her recent book, Wishful Thinking: How I Lost My Faith, and Why I Want to Find It
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      <pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2024 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title> Lean into Fragility and Mystery: Donna Freitas</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/78078400-1604-11ef-8a23-db285cd12de6/image/512a6ef1b745cf5a3ccf41c7cdb86375.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Donna Freitas, talks about her recent book, Wishful Thinking: How I Lost My Faith, and Why I Want to Find It</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Donna Freitas, talks about her recent book, Wishful Thinking: How I Lost My Faith, and Why I Want to Find It
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Donna Freitas, talks about her recent book,<em> Wishful Thinking: How I Lost My Faith, and Why I Want to Find It</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3875</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2414 - We Never Interpret Alone: Rabbi Shai Held</title>
      <description>Our guest, Rabbi Shai Held, talks about his recent book: Judaism Is About Love: Recovering the Heart of Jewish Life.
Held reminds us that love is foundational and constitutive of Jewish faith, animating the singular Jewish perspective on injustice and protest, grace, family life, responsibilities to our neighbors and even our enemies, and chosenness.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2024 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>We Never Interpret Alone: Rabbi Shai Held</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/59fdda84-f4f0-11ee-9dee-f784eed27ccd/image/512a6ef1b745cf5a3ccf41c7cdb86375.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Rabbi Shai Held, talks about his recent book: Judaism Is About Love: Recovering the Heart of Jewish Life</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Rabbi Shai Held, talks about his recent book: Judaism Is About Love: Recovering the Heart of Jewish Life.
Held reminds us that love is foundational and constitutive of Jewish faith, animating the singular Jewish perspective on injustice and protest, grace, family life, responsibilities to our neighbors and even our enemies, and chosenness.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Rabbi Shai Held, talks about his recent book: <em>Judaism Is About Love: Recovering the Heart of Jewish Life.</em></p><p>Held reminds us that love is foundational and constitutive of Jewish faith, animating the singular Jewish perspective on injustice and protest, grace, family life, responsibilities to our neighbors and even our enemies, and chosenness.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3673</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2413 - A Call to Action for the Marginalized - Miguel De La Torre [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Professor Miguel De La Torre returns to Things Not Seen to discuss his recent book, Resisting Apartheid America
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      <pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2024 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Call to Action for the Marginalized - Miguel De La Torre [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/5a0cf1d6-f4eb-11ee-8beb-239223769d42/image/512a6ef1b745cf5a3ccf41c7cdb86375.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Professor Miguel De La Torre returns to Things Not Seen to discuss his recent book, Resisting Apartheid America</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Professor Miguel De La Torre returns to Things Not Seen to discuss his recent book, Resisting Apartheid America
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Professor Miguel De La Torre returns to Things Not Seen to discuss his recent book, <em>Resisting Apartheid America</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3575</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2412 - Jesus in His Own Words: Fr. Bill Cain, SJ [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Bill Cain is a Jesuit who has spent his life writing screenplays for movies and television. In his 2022 book, The Diary of Jesus Christ, he reimagines the stories of the Gospels from the point of view of Jesus himself, with breathtaking results
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      <pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2024 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Jesus in His Own Words: Fr. Bill Cain, SJ [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/c026c222-ea0e-11ee-ba18-2fa4a9afd7d5/image/512a6ef1b745cf5a3ccf41c7cdb86375.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Bill Cain is a Jesuit who has spent his life writing screenplays for movies and television. In his 2022 book, The Diary of Jesus Christ, he reimagines the stories of the Gospels from the point of view of Jesus himself, with breathtaking results</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Bill Cain is a Jesuit who has spent his life writing screenplays for movies and television. In his 2022 book, The Diary of Jesus Christ, he reimagines the stories of the Gospels from the point of view of Jesus himself, with breathtaking results
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Bill Cain is a Jesuit who has spent his life writing screenplays for movies and television. In his 2022 book, <em>The Diary of Jesus Christ</em>, he reimagines the stories of the Gospels from the point of view of Jesus himself, with breathtaking results</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3959</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2411 - Catechesis Through Commerce: Leah Payne</title>
      <description>Our guest Leah Payne traces forty years in the formation of American Evangelical identity through a mixture of Christian bookstores, Contemporary Christian Music, charismatic recording artists, and self-reinforcing product placements. We discuss her recent book, God Gave Rock and Roll to You: A History of Contemporary Christian Music
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      <pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2024 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Catechesis Through Commerce: Leah Payne</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/3ce2a6be-e4ab-11ee-8452-4bdb5219cc0e/image/512a6ef1b745cf5a3ccf41c7cdb86375.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Leah Payne traces forty years in the formation of American Evangelical identity through a mixture of Christian bookstores, Contemporary Christian Music, charismatic recording artists, and self-reinforcing product placements. We discuss her recent book, God Gave Rock and Roll to You: A History of Contemporary Christian Music</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Leah Payne traces forty years in the formation of American Evangelical identity through a mixture of Christian bookstores, Contemporary Christian Music, charismatic recording artists, and self-reinforcing product placements. We discuss her recent book, God Gave Rock and Roll to You: A History of Contemporary Christian Music
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Leah Payne traces forty years in the formation of American Evangelical identity through a mixture of Christian bookstores, Contemporary Christian Music, charismatic recording artists, and self-reinforcing product placements. We discuss her recent book, <em>God Gave Rock and Roll to You: A History of Contemporary Christian Music</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3673</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2410 - Repairing What Race Broke in the World: Lisa Sharon Harper [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Our guest Lisa Sharon Harper takes us on a four-century journey through the history of her family, showing us how it entwines with the broken history of race in America. She discusses her recent book, Fortune.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 10 Mar 2024 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Repairing What Race Broke in the World: Lisa Sharon Harper [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/8f64b412-e49d-11ee-9e66-17dc4d4913db/image/512a6ef1b745cf5a3ccf41c7cdb86375.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Lisa Sharon Harper takes us on a four-century journey through the history of her family, showing us how it entwines with the broken history of race in America. She discusses her recent book, Fortune.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Lisa Sharon Harper takes us on a four-century journey through the history of her family, showing us how it entwines with the broken history of race in America. She discusses her recent book, Fortune.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Lisa Sharon Harper takes us on a four-century journey through the history of her family, showing us how it entwines with the broken history of race in America. She discusses her recent book, <em>Fortune.</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3709</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2409 - Politics is Penultimate: Michael Wear</title>
      <description>Our guest, Michael Wear, has lived at the intersection of faith and politics at the highest corridors of power. In his recent book, The Spirit of Our Politics, Wear offers a distinctly Christian approach to politics that results in healing rather than division, kindness rather than hatred, and hope rather than despair.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2024 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Politics is Penultimate: Michael Wear</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/088d4240-dfea-11ee-9728-272d12e37f7d/image/512a6ef1b745cf5a3ccf41c7cdb86375.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Michael Wear, has lived at the intersection of faith and politics at the highest corridors of power. In his recent book, The Spirit of Our Politics, Wear offers a distinctly Christian approach to politics that results in healing rather than division, kindness rather than hatred, and hope rather than despair.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Michael Wear, has lived at the intersection of faith and politics at the highest corridors of power. In his recent book, The Spirit of Our Politics, Wear offers a distinctly Christian approach to politics that results in healing rather than division, kindness rather than hatred, and hope rather than despair.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Michael Wear, has lived at the intersection of faith and politics at the highest corridors of power. In his recent book, <em>The Spirit of Our Politics</em>, Wear offers a distinctly Christian approach to politics that results in healing rather than division, kindness rather than hatred, and hope rather than despair.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3545</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2408 - Prophetically Pragmatic: Mark Elsdon</title>
      <description>Our guest Mark Elsdon talks about the coming wave of church property transitions, and what it will mean for communities and faith at large in the United States. We talk about his recent edited volume, Gone for Good?
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      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2024 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Prophetically Pragmatic: Mark Elsdon</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7e86ff28-dfdf-11ee-bb39-bb2ac18a95b2/image/512a6ef1b745cf5a3ccf41c7cdb86375.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Mark Elsdon talks about the coming wave of church property transitions, and what it will mean for communities and faith at large in the United States. We talk about his recent edited volume, Gone for Good?</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Mark Elsdon talks about the coming wave of church property transitions, and what it will mean for communities and faith at large in the United States. We talk about his recent edited volume, Gone for Good?
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Mark Elsdon talks about the coming wave of church property transitions, and what it will mean for communities and faith at large in the United States. We talk about his recent edited volume, <em>Gone for Good?</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3515</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2407 - The Reshaping of the American Church: Bob Smietana [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>In his recent book, Reorganized Religion, our guest, veteran religion reporter Bob Smietana, offers an in-depth and critical look at why people are leaving American churches and what we lose as a society as it continues.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2024 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Reshaping of the American Church: Bob Smietana [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/69862848-df07-11ee-ae3d-73b777691467/image/512a6ef1b745cf5a3ccf41c7cdb86375.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In his recent book, Reorganized Religion, our guest, veteran religion reporter Bob Smietana, offers an in-depth and critical look at why people are leaving American churches and what we lose as a society as it continues.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In his recent book, Reorganized Religion, our guest, veteran religion reporter Bob Smietana, offers an in-depth and critical look at why people are leaving American churches and what we lose as a society as it continues.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In his recent book, <em>Reorganized Religion</em>, our guest, veteran religion reporter Bob Smietana, offers an in-depth and critical look at why people are leaving American churches and what we lose as a society as it continues.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>4034</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2406 - Behind the Scenes with Flannery O'Connor: Jessica Hooten Wilson</title>
      <description>When celebrated American novelist and short story writer Flannery O'Connor died at the age of thirty-nine in 1964, she left behind an unfinished third novel titled Why Do the Heathen Rage? For the past ten-plus years, award-winning author Jessica Hooten Wilson has explored the 378 pages of typed and handwritten material of the novel, compiling everything to provide a glimpse into what O'Connor might have planned to publish.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2024 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Behind the Scenes with Flannery O'Connor: Jessica Hooten Wilson</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/5072a16c-df05-11ee-8fb2-cb7096b3f617/image/512a6ef1b745cf5a3ccf41c7cdb86375.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>When celebrated American novelist and short story writer Flannery O'Connor died at the age of thirty-nine in 1964, she left behind an unfinished third novel titled Why Do the Heathen Rage? For the past ten-plus years, award-winning author Jessica Hooten Wilson has explored the 378 pages of typed and handwritten material of the novel, compiling everything to provide a glimpse into what O'Connor might have planned to publish.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>When celebrated American novelist and short story writer Flannery O'Connor died at the age of thirty-nine in 1964, she left behind an unfinished third novel titled Why Do the Heathen Rage? For the past ten-plus years, award-winning author Jessica Hooten Wilson has explored the 378 pages of typed and handwritten material of the novel, compiling everything to provide a glimpse into what O'Connor might have planned to publish.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>When celebrated American novelist and short story writer Flannery O'Connor died at the age of thirty-nine in 1964, she left behind an unfinished third novel titled <em>Why Do the Heathen Rage? </em>For the past ten-plus years, award-winning author Jessica Hooten Wilson has explored the 378 pages of typed and handwritten material of the novel, compiling everything to provide a glimpse into what O'Connor might have planned to publish.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3484</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2405 - Taking the Bible Seriously, Not Literally: Love Lazarus Sechrest [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>In her recent book Race &amp; Rhyme, our guest Love Lazarus Sechrest invites listeners to explore biblical narratives in ways that enliven and ethically inform our present conditions. She discusses her method of associative hermeneutics in this far-ranging conversation about race, theology, and repairing the broken world.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 04 Feb 2024 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Taking the Bible Seriously, Not Literally: Love Lazarus Sechrest [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/3f25c20e-defb-11ee-8a5e-5b98c4e5351b/image/512a6ef1b745cf5a3ccf41c7cdb86375.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In her recent book Race &amp; Rhyme, our guest Love Lazarus Sechrest invites listeners to explore biblical narratives in ways that enliven and ethically inform our present conditions. She discusses her method of associative hermeneutics in this far-ranging conversation about race, theology, and repairing the broken world.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In her recent book Race &amp; Rhyme, our guest Love Lazarus Sechrest invites listeners to explore biblical narratives in ways that enliven and ethically inform our present conditions. She discusses her method of associative hermeneutics in this far-ranging conversation about race, theology, and repairing the broken world.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In her recent book <em>Race &amp; Rhyme</em>, our guest Love Lazarus Sechrest invites listeners to explore biblical narratives in ways that enliven and ethically inform our present conditions. She discusses her method of associative hermeneutics in this far-ranging conversation about race, theology, and repairing the broken world.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3713</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2404 - A Theology of Life with Depression: Jessica Coblentz [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Our guest Jessica Coblentz calls readers and scholars alike to re-imagine our theological accounts of depression and recovery in her recent book, Dust in the Blood: A Theology of Life with Depression
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      <pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2024 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Theology of Life with Depression: Jessica Coblentz [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2df86b88-dd9f-11ee-bdc6-d77da337ffeb/image/512a6ef1b745cf5a3ccf41c7cdb86375.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Jessica Coblentz calls readers and scholars alike to re-imagine our theological accounts of depression and recovery in her recent book, Dust in the Blood: A Theology of Life with Depression</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Jessica Coblentz calls readers and scholars alike to re-imagine our theological accounts of depression and recovery in her recent book, Dust in the Blood: A Theology of Life with Depression
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Jessica Coblentz calls readers and scholars alike to re-imagine our theological accounts of depression and recovery in her recent book, <em>Dust in the Blood: A Theology of Life with Depression</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3446</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2403 - The Great Love: Joyce Rupp</title>
      <description>Bestselling author and beloved retreat leader Joyce Rupp speaks to us about her recent book, Jesus, Friend of My Soul: Reflections for the Lenten Journey
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      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2024 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Great Love: Joyce Rupp</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/b1555538-dd9d-11ee-b258-4f781e1b6016/image/512a6ef1b745cf5a3ccf41c7cdb86375.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Bestselling author and beloved retreat leader Joyce Rupp speaks to us about her recent book, Jesus, Friend of My Soul: Reflections for the Lenten Journey</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Bestselling author and beloved retreat leader Joyce Rupp speaks to us about her recent book, Jesus, Friend of My Soul: Reflections for the Lenten Journey
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Bestselling author and beloved retreat leader Joyce Rupp speaks to us about her recent book, <em>Jesus, Friend of My Soul: Reflections for the Lenten Journey</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3465</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2402 - The Priest for the People with Problems: Dawn Eden Goldstein [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Our guest Dawn Eden Goldstein discusses her recent book, Father Ed: The Story of Bill W.'s Spiritual Sponsor, which tells the story of Father Ed Dowling, SJ, the Jesuit priest who helped to spread the word about Alcoholics Anonymous.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2024 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Priest for the People with Problems: Dawn Eden Goldstein [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/e2225e2e-dd96-11ee-8674-cfd7945f5721/image/512a6ef1b745cf5a3ccf41c7cdb86375.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Dawn Eden Goldstein discusses her recent book, Father Ed: The Story of Bill W.'s Spiritual Sponsor, which tells the story of Father Ed Dowling, SJ, the Jesuit priest who helped to spread the word about Alcoholics Anonymous.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Dawn Eden Goldstein discusses her recent book, Father Ed: The Story of Bill W.'s Spiritual Sponsor, which tells the story of Father Ed Dowling, SJ, the Jesuit priest who helped to spread the word about Alcoholics Anonymous.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Dawn Eden Goldstein discusses her recent book, <em>Father Ed: The Story of Bill W.'s Spiritual Sponsor</em>, which tells the story of Father Ed Dowling, SJ, the Jesuit priest who helped to spread the word about Alcoholics Anonymous.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3890</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2401 - Give up the God who does not believe in us: Rachel Mann</title>
      <description>Our guest, Rachel Mann, calls Jane Austen "the supreme novelist of attention." In her recent book, A Truth Universally Acknowledged, Mann invites us to journey through the 40 days of Lent with the works of Austen.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2024 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Give up the God who does not believe in us: Rachel Mann</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2f3f2b5e-d41b-11ee-802b-330c70176ca6/image/512a6ef1b745cf5a3ccf41c7cdb86375.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Rachel Mann, calls Jane Austen "the supreme novelist of attention." In her recent book, A Truth Universally Acknowledged, Mann invites us to journey through the 40 days of Lent with the works of Austen.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Rachel Mann, calls Jane Austen "the supreme novelist of attention." In her recent book, A Truth Universally Acknowledged, Mann invites us to journey through the 40 days of Lent with the works of Austen.
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Rachel Mann, calls Jane Austen "the supreme novelist of attention." In her recent book, <em>A Truth Universally Acknowledged</em>, Mann invites us to journey through the 40 days of Lent with the works of Austen.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3691</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2353 - Radically Curious: Corey Nathan</title>
      <description>Our guest, Corey Nathan, talks about his upbringing and religious journey from Judaism to Christianity. Along the way, he talks about his vision for ways for citizens to be able to talk across their differences and divisions, which he practices in his podcast, Talkin' Religion and Politics without Killin' Each Other
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      <pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2023 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Radically Curious: Corey Nathan</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>53</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Corey Nathan, talks about his upbringing and religious journey from Judaism to Christianity. Along the way, he talks about his vision for ways for citizens to be able to talk across their differences and divisions, which he practices in his podcast, Talkin' Religion and Politics without Killin' Each Other</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Corey Nathan, talks about his upbringing and religious journey from Judaism to Christianity. Along the way, he talks about his vision for ways for citizens to be able to talk across their differences and divisions, which he practices in his podcast, Talkin' Religion and Politics without Killin' Each Other
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Corey Nathan, talks about his upbringing and religious journey from Judaism to Christianity. Along the way, he talks about his vision for ways for citizens to be able to talk across their differences and divisions, which he practices in his podcast, <em>Talkin' Religion and Politics without Killin' Each Other</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3563</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2352 - Meet the Magi: Eric Vanden Eykel [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>In his 2022 book, The Magi, our guest Eric Vanden Eykel examines the birth of the Magi story; its enrichments, embellishments, and expansions in apocryphal writing and early Christian preaching; its artistic expressions in catacombs, icons, and paintings and its modern legacy in novels, poetry, and music.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2023 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Meet the Magi: Eric Vanden Eykel [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>52</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In his 2022 book, The Magi, our guest Eric Vanden Eykel examines the birth of the Magi story; its enrichments, embellishments, and expansions in apocryphal writing and early Christian preaching; its artistic expressions in catacombs, icons, and paintings and its modern legacy in novels, poetry, and music.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In his 2022 book, The Magi, our guest Eric Vanden Eykel examines the birth of the Magi story; its enrichments, embellishments, and expansions in apocryphal writing and early Christian preaching; its artistic expressions in catacombs, icons, and paintings and its modern legacy in novels, poetry, and music.
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        <![CDATA[<p>In his 2022 book, <em>The Magi</em>, our guest Eric Vanden Eykel examines the birth of the Magi story; its enrichments, embellishments, and expansions in apocryphal writing and early Christian preaching; its artistic expressions in catacombs, icons, and paintings and its modern legacy in novels, poetry, and music.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3425</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2351 - The Sacred Just Beneath the Surface - Barbara Mahany [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Our guest Barbara Mahany returns to the show to talk about her wonderful recent book, The Book of Nature
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      <pubDate>Sun, 17 Dec 2023 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Sacred Just Beneath the Surface - Barbara Mahany [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>51</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Barbara Mahany returns to the show to talk about her wonderful recent book, The Book of Nature</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Barbara Mahany returns to the show to talk about her wonderful recent book, The Book of Nature
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Barbara Mahany returns to the show to talk about her wonderful recent book, <em>The Book of Nature</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3480</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2350 - The Presence of Absence: Ronald J. Greer</title>
      <description>Our guest, Rev. Ronald J. Greer, invites us into the realms of grief and mourning as he discusses his powerful recent book, The Quiet House: Reflections on the Loss of a Spouse
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      <pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2023 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Presence of Absence: Ronald J. Greer</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>50</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/09bf4ec6-9894-11ee-bd0b-47c0e8a1877b/image/59746b.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Rev. Ronald J. Greer, invites us into the realms of grief and mourning as he discusses his powerful recent book, The Quiet House: Reflections on the Loss of a Spouse</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Rev. Ronald J. Greer, invites us into the realms of grief and mourning as he discusses his powerful recent book, The Quiet House: Reflections on the Loss of a Spouse
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Rev. Ronald J. Greer, invites us into the realms of grief and mourning as he discusses his powerful recent book, The Quiet House: Reflections on the Loss of a Spouse</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>4085</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2349 - We are Not Alone: Christine Valters Paintner</title>
      <description>In her recent book, The Love of Thousands, our guest Christine Valters Paintner invites us to consider that angels, saints, and even our departed ancestors support and inspire us throughout our lives, and invite us toward holiness
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      <pubDate>Sun, 03 Dec 2023 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>We are Not Alone: Christine Valters Paintner</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>49</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/81924b76-9892-11ee-af34-9ff30edbfd65/image/014032.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In her recent book, The Love of Thousands, our guest Christine Valters Paintner invites us to consider that angels, saints, and even our departed ancestors support and inspire us throughout our lives, and invite us toward holiness</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In her recent book, The Love of Thousands, our guest Christine Valters Paintner invites us to consider that angels, saints, and even our departed ancestors support and inspire us throughout our lives, and invite us toward holiness
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In her recent book, <em>The Love of Thousands</em>, our guest Christine Valters Paintner invites us to consider that angels, saints, and even our departed ancestors support and inspire us throughout our lives, and invite us toward holiness</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3713</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2348 - When Time Is Short: Timothy Beal [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Professor Timothy Beal returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his recent book, When Time Is Short, which deals with human-made climate catastrophe and the idea of 'palliative hope'
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      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2023 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>When Time Is Short: Timothy Beal [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>48</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/b2233b96-922b-11ee-9e5c-3799a7887c34/image/c993d3.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Professor Timothy Beal returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his recent book, When Time Is Short, which deals with human-made climate catastrophe and the idea of 'palliative hope'</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Professor Timothy Beal returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his recent book, When Time Is Short, which deals with human-made climate catastrophe and the idea of 'palliative hope'
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Professor Timothy Beal returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his recent book, When Time Is Short, which deals with human-made climate catastrophe and the idea of 'palliative hope'</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3867</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2347 - Hope in Our Bodies: Maryann McKibben Dana [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Rev. Maryann McKibben Dana returns to our show to talk about her recent book, Hope: A User's Manual. She reflects on the surprising place where hope is often found--in the messiness of our imperfect, flawed, beautiful human bodies.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Nov 2023 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Hope in Our Bodies: Maryann McKibben Dana [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>47</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/41ec7da4-8e2c-11ee-9c4f-e3f0504278da/image/067674.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Rev. Maryann McKibben Dana returns to our show to talk about her recent book, Hope: A User's Manual. She reflects on the surprising place where hope is often found--in the messiness of our imperfect, flawed, beautiful human bodies.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Rev. Maryann McKibben Dana returns to our show to talk about her recent book, Hope: A User's Manual. She reflects on the surprising place where hope is often found--in the messiness of our imperfect, flawed, beautiful human bodies.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Rev. Maryann McKibben Dana returns to our show to talk about her recent book, Hope: A User's Manual. She reflects on the surprising place where hope is often found--in the messiness of our imperfect, flawed, beautiful human bodies.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3627</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2346 - A Story of a Countercultural Christian Community: Celeste Kennel-Shank</title>
      <description>Our guest, Celeste Kennel-Shank, tells the intriguing story of the Community of Christ, a church community based in Washington, DC, and its five decades of ministry. We talk about her recent book, What You Sow is a Bare Seed.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 12 Nov 2023 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Story of a Countercultural Christian Community: Celeste Kennel-Shank</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>46</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/1021c4e8-81af-11ee-9e01-2bc587eadfea/image/a7a69e.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Celeste Kennel-Shank, tells the intriguing story of the Community of Christ, a church community based in Washington, DC, and its five decades of ministry </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Celeste Kennel-Shank, tells the intriguing story of the Community of Christ, a church community based in Washington, DC, and its five decades of ministry. We talk about her recent book, What You Sow is a Bare Seed.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Celeste Kennel-Shank, tells the intriguing story of the Community of Christ, a church community based in Washington, DC, and its five decades of ministry. We talk about her recent book, <em>What You Sow is a Bare Seed.</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3783</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2345 - The Virtue Field: Eric Bowman on Harriet Tubman [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We speak with Eric Bowman, educator and founder of the Revolution Ethics Project, about his 2022 podcast series, The Virtue Field, which explores the life of anti-slavery activist Harriet Tubman
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Nov 2023 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Virtue Field: Eric Bowman on Harriet Tubman [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>45</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/945ab176-81ae-11ee-8e0a-5fc0f393b9e3/image/660211.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak with Eric Bowman, educator and founder of the Revolution Ethics Project, about his 2022 podcast series, The Virtue Field, which explores the life of anti-slavery activist Harriet Tubman</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We speak with Eric Bowman, educator and founder of the Revolution Ethics Project, about his 2022 podcast series, The Virtue Field, which explores the life of anti-slavery activist Harriet Tubman
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We speak with Eric Bowman, educator and founder of the Revolution Ethics Project, about his 2022 podcast series, The Virtue Field, which explores the life of anti-slavery activist Harriet Tubman</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3503</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2344 - Dignity and Responsibility: Anthony M. Annett [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>In his recent book, Cathonomics, our guest Anthony M. Annett draws on economics, Catholic social thought, philosophy, climate science, and psychology to show how readers of all faiths and backgrounds can work together to create a more just economy.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 29 Oct 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title> Dignity and Responsibility: Anthony M. Annett [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>41</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2311ce50-81ae-11ee-976d-0bd37c0d9285/image/849ca4.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In his recent book, Cathonomics, our guest Anthony M. Annett draws on economics, Catholic social thought, philosophy, climate science, and psychology to show how readers of all faiths and backgrounds can work together to create a more just economy.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In his recent book, Cathonomics, our guest Anthony M. Annett draws on economics, Catholic social thought, philosophy, climate science, and psychology to show how readers of all faiths and backgrounds can work together to create a more just economy.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In his recent book, Cathonomics, our guest Anthony M. Annett draws on economics, Catholic social thought, philosophy, climate science, and psychology to show how readers of all faiths and backgrounds can work together to create a more just economy.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3722</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2343 - We Become What We Normalize: David Dark</title>
      <description>We welcome back our guest, philosopher and educator David Dark, to talk about his recent book, We Become What We Normalize: What We Owe Each Other in Worlds that Demand Our Silence
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Oct 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>We Become What We Normalize: David Dark</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>43</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/207eee42-7683-11ee-8ea4-47b5062fb311/image/4ad364.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We welcome back our guest, philosopher and educator David Dark, to talk about his recent book, We Become What We Normalize: What We Owe Each Other in Worlds that Demand Our Silence</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We welcome back our guest, philosopher and educator David Dark, to talk about his recent book, We Become What We Normalize: What We Owe Each Other in Worlds that Demand Our Silence
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We welcome back our guest, philosopher and educator David Dark, to talk about his recent book, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/82521/9781506481685"><em>We Become What We Normalize: What We Owe Each Other in Worlds that Demand Our Silence</em></a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3735</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2342 - Life Has to Show at the Seams: J. Aaron Simmons</title>
      <description>Our guest, philosopher J. Aaron Simmons, invites listeners to take "risk with direction" in his recent book, Camping with Kierkegaard. In the book, he asks us to consider "what is worthy of our finitude?" and reads the question through the metaphors of outdoor adventure.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Life Has to Show at the Seams: Aaron Simmons</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>42</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/94ccfd22-6c68-11ee-8c30-db3306da4c00/image/c337ad.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, philosopher J. Aaron Simmons, invites listeners to take "risk with direction" in his recent book, Camping with Kierkegaard.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, philosopher J. Aaron Simmons, invites listeners to take "risk with direction" in his recent book, Camping with Kierkegaard. In the book, he asks us to consider "what is worthy of our finitude?" and reads the question through the metaphors of outdoor adventure.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, philosopher J. Aaron Simmons, invites listeners to take "risk with direction" in his recent book, <em>Camping with Kierkegaard</em>. In the book, he asks us to consider "what is worthy of our finitude?" and reads the question through the metaphors of outdoor adventure.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3975</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2341 - The Victory of Public Broadcasting: Joshua Shepperd</title>
      <description>Our guest, Joshua Shepperd, is an expert on the history of radio. His recent book, Shadow of the New Deal, tells the amazing and often surprising story of the rise of public broadcasting in the United States.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Oct 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Victory of Public Broadcasting: Joshua Shepperd</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>41</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/f4ac9042-64af-11ee-a4ca-ab2965a268aa/image/72d5e7.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Joshua Shepperd, is an expert on the history of radio. His recent book, Shadow of the New Deal, tells the amazing story of the rise of public broadcasting in the United States.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Joshua Shepperd, is an expert on the history of radio. His recent book, Shadow of the New Deal, tells the amazing and often surprising story of the rise of public broadcasting in the United States.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Joshua Shepperd, is an expert on the history of radio. His recent book, Shadow of the New Deal, tells the amazing and often surprising story of the rise of public broadcasting in the United States.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3982</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2340 - An Enfolding Sequence of Miracles: Jennifer Banks</title>
      <description>Our guest, Jennifer Banks, discusses her recent book Natality: Toward a Philosophy of Birth, The book invites us to attend to birth as a challenging and life-affirming reminder of our shared humanity and our capacity for creative renewal.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 01 Oct 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>An Enfolding Sequence of Miracles: Jennifer Banks</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>40</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/4e3570d6-64ae-11ee-bb62-474f84379a9b/image/7fa7a5.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Jennifer Banks, discusses her recent book Natality: Toward a Philosophy of Birth, The book invites us to attend to birth as a challenging and life-affirming reminder of our shared humanity and our capacity for creative renewal.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Jennifer Banks, discusses her recent book Natality: Toward a Philosophy of Birth, The book invites us to attend to birth as a challenging and life-affirming reminder of our shared humanity and our capacity for creative renewal.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Jennifer Banks, discusses her recent book <em>Natality: Toward a Philosophy of Birth</em>, The book invites us to attend to birth as a challenging and life-affirming reminder of our shared humanity and our capacity for creative renewal.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3623</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[4e3570d6-64ae-11ee-bb62-474f84379a9b]]></guid>
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      <title>#2339 - The Welcome Table: Greg Garrett on James Baldwin</title>
      <description>Our guest Greg Garrett joins us to discuss his recent book, The Gospel According to James Baldwin: What America's Great Prophet Can Teach Us about Life, Love, and Identity
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      <pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>#2339 - The Welcome Table: Greg Garrett on James Baldwin</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>39</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/675991b8-5b18-11ee-a045-b3d02047cb2b/image/a44e59.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Greg Garrett joins us to discuss his recent book, The Gospel According to James Baldwin: What America's Great Prophet Can Teach Us about Life, Love, and Identity</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Greg Garrett joins us to discuss his recent book, The Gospel According to James Baldwin: What America's Great Prophet Can Teach Us about Life, Love, and Identity
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Greg Garrett joins us to discuss his recent book, The Gospel According to James Baldwin: What America's Great Prophet Can Teach Us about Life, Love, and Identity</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3737</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[675991b8-5b18-11ee-a045-b3d02047cb2b]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM6525030293.mp3?updated=1695587541" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2338 - Repentance and Repair: Danya Ruttenberg</title>
      <description>We welcome Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg to talk about the five steps of repentance, set forth by Moses Maimonides, which form the heart of her recent book, On Repentance and Repair: Making Amends in an Unapologetic World
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Repentance and Repair: Danya Ruttenberg</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>38</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/f5f0d35e-5588-11ee-a40c-07f4b1258950/image/468a7d.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We welcome Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg to talk about the five steps of repentance, set forth by Moses Maimonides, which form the heart of her recent book, On Repentance and Repair: Making Amends in an Unapologetic World</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We welcome Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg to talk about the five steps of repentance, set forth by Moses Maimonides, which form the heart of her recent book, On Repentance and Repair: Making Amends in an Unapologetic World
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We welcome Rabbi Danya Ruttenberg to talk about the five steps of repentance, set forth by Moses Maimonides, which form the heart of her recent book, <em>On Repentance and Repair: Making Amends in an Unapologetic World</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3687</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[f5f0d35e-5588-11ee-a40c-07f4b1258950]]></guid>
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      <title>#2337 - Bearing Witness: Sarah Stankorb</title>
      <description>Journalist Sarah Stankorb joins us to talk about her powerful book, Disobedient Women: How a Small Group of Faithful Women Exposed Abuse, Brought Down Powerful Pastors, and Ignited an Evangelical Reckoning
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Bearing Witness: Sarah Stankorb</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2d5ec294-4ff1-11ee-924e-6f54a32d700a/image/59c2d1.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Journalist Sarah Stankorb joins us to talk about her powerful book, Disobedient Women: How a Small Group of Faithful Women Exposed Abuse, Brought Down Powerful Pastors, and Ignited an Evangelical Reckoning</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Journalist Sarah Stankorb joins us to talk about her powerful book, Disobedient Women: How a Small Group of Faithful Women Exposed Abuse, Brought Down Powerful Pastors, and Ignited an Evangelical Reckoning
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Journalist Sarah Stankorb joins us to talk about her powerful book, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/82521/9781546003809"><em>Disobedient Women: How a Small Group of Faithful Women Exposed Abuse, Brought Down Powerful Pastors, and Ignited an Evangelical Reckoning</em></a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3657</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[2d5ec294-4ff1-11ee-924e-6f54a32d700a]]></guid>
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      <title>#2336 - Revisiting Weird Religion: Leah Payne and Brian Doak</title>
      <description>This week on Things Not Seen we check in with the hosts of one of our favorite podcasts, Weird Religion. Hosts Brian Doak and Leah Payne look back at five years of producing the show, and look ahead to what religion might mean for us in the decades to come.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Revisiting Weird Religion: Leah Payne and Brian Doak</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/b750aa66-4b65-11ee-899e-13569f35522f/image/9debb3.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week on Things Not Seen we check in with the hosts of one of our favorite podcasts, Weird Religion. Hosts Brian Doak and Leah Payne look back at five years of producing the show, and look ahead to what religion might mean for us in the decades to come.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This week on Things Not Seen we check in with the hosts of one of our favorite podcasts, Weird Religion. Hosts Brian Doak and Leah Payne look back at five years of producing the show, and look ahead to what religion might mean for us in the decades to come.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week on Things Not Seen we check in with the hosts of one of our favorite podcasts, <a href="https://www.weirdreligion.com/"><em>Weird Religion</em></a>. Hosts Brian Doak and Leah Payne look back at five years of producing the show, and look ahead to what religion might mean for us in the decades to come.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3867</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[b750aa66-4b65-11ee-899e-13569f35522f]]></guid>
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      <title>#2335 - What Is the Goal of Human Flourishing?: Chanequa Walker-Barnes</title>
      <description>We are joined by Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes to discuss their recent book, Sacred Self-Care: Daily Practices for Nurturing Our Whole Selves. We explore self-care as both a sacred and a subversive practice.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>What Is the Goal of Human Flourishing?: Chanequa Walker-Barnes</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/903dca5e-4b64-11ee-93ad-bba9d63f2665/image/4528eb.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We are joined by Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes to discuss their recent book, Sacred Self-Care: Daily Practices for Nurturing Our Whole Selves.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We are joined by Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes to discuss their recent book, Sacred Self-Care: Daily Practices for Nurturing Our Whole Selves. We explore self-care as both a sacred and a subversive practice.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We are joined by Dr. Chanequa Walker-Barnes to discuss their recent book, <em>Sacred Self-Care: Daily Practices for Nurturing Our Whole Selves</em>. We explore self-care as both a sacred and a subversive practice.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3713</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[903dca5e-4b64-11ee-93ad-bba9d63f2665]]></guid>
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      <title>#2334 - Drawing Lines of Inclusion, Not Exclusion: David Hayward [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Artist and cartoonist David Hayward has been using his simple line drawings to convey messages of love and inclusion to those who have felt left out by the Christian faith. We talk about a new collection of his cartoons, called Flip It Like This.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 20 Aug 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Drawing Lines of Inclusion, Not Exclusion: David Hayward [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/0fba245c-4aa3-11ee-9f6d-37a51783bdac/image/12e949.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Artist and cartoonist David Hayward has been using his simple line drawings to convey messages of love and inclusion to those who have felt left out by the Christian faith. We talk about a new collection of his cartoons, called Flip It Like This.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Artist and cartoonist David Hayward has been using his simple line drawings to convey messages of love and inclusion to those who have felt left out by the Christian faith. We talk about a new collection of his cartoons, called Flip It Like This.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Artist and cartoonist David Hayward has been using his simple line drawings to convey messages of love and inclusion to those who have felt left out by the Christian faith. We talk about a new collection of his cartoons, called <em>Flip It Like This</em>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3460</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[0fba245c-4aa3-11ee-9f6d-37a51783bdac]]></guid>
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      <title>#2333 - The Other Evangelicals: Isaac B. Sharp</title>
      <description>Our guest Isaac B. Sharp recovers a history of Evangelical Christianity in America, looking at the various populations who were "left behind" in the Evangelical quest for increased influence in American politics. We talk about his book, The Other Evangelicals.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Other Evangelicals: Isaac B. Sharp</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/e141958e-4aa1-11ee-9113-3b866e1a1bba/image/093d35.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Isaac B. Sharp recovers a history of Evangelical Christianity in America, looking at the various populations who were "left behind" in the Evangelical quest for increased influence in American politics.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Isaac B. Sharp recovers a history of Evangelical Christianity in America, looking at the various populations who were "left behind" in the Evangelical quest for increased influence in American politics. We talk about his book, The Other Evangelicals.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Isaac B. Sharp recovers a history of Evangelical Christianity in America, looking at the various populations who were "left behind" in the Evangelical quest for increased influence in American politics. We talk about his book, <em>The Other Evangelicals.</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3935</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2332 - Survival is Just the Beginning: Kelly J. Baker [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We welcome back Dr. Kelly J. Baker to talk about her amazing and powerful book Final Girl: And Other Essays on Grief, Trauma, and Mental Illness
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      <pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Survival is Just the Beginning: Kelly J. Baker [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/9dd32dd2-3e15-11ee-ab88-fba9073bdd19/image/a27b01.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We welcome back Dr. Kelly J. Baker to talk about her amazing and powerful book Final Girl: And Other Essays on Grief, Trauma, and Mental Illness</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We welcome back Dr. Kelly J. Baker to talk about her amazing and powerful book Final Girl: And Other Essays on Grief, Trauma, and Mental Illness
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        <![CDATA[<p>We welcome back Dr. Kelly J. Baker to talk about her amazing and powerful book Final Girl: And Other Essays on Grief, Trauma, and Mental Illness</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3618</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2331 - A Landscape Loud with Lament and Loss: Kelley Nikondeha [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Our guest Kelley Nikondeha invites us to re-read the stories of the Old and New Testament through the lens of the so-called "Fifth Gospel": the lands of Israel and Palestine. Nikondeha encourages us to consider the imperial politics behind the Gospel narratives, both when they were first written, and now.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Landscape Loud with Lament and Loss: Kelley Nikondeha [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/5537e7ba-3e0c-11ee-a181-33f06d3583fa/image/081e74.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Kelley Nikondeha invites us to re-read the stories of the Old and New Testament through the lens of the so-called "Fifth Gospel": the lands of Israel and Palestine. Nikondeha encourages us to consider the imperial politics behind the Gospel narratives, both when they were first written, and now.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Kelley Nikondeha invites us to re-read the stories of the Old and New Testament through the lens of the so-called "Fifth Gospel": the lands of Israel and Palestine. Nikondeha encourages us to consider the imperial politics behind the Gospel narratives, both when they were first written, and now.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Kelley Nikondeha invites us to re-read the stories of the Old and New Testament through the lens of the so-called "Fifth Gospel": the lands of Israel and Palestine. Nikondeha encourages us to consider the imperial politics behind the Gospel narratives, both when they were first written, and now.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3667</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2330 - Seeing and Believing: Ellen T. Armour</title>
      <description>Our guest Ellen T. Armour discusses the way the media of photography and video have changed our way of thinking and feeling, and the fundamental nature of our relationships with others. She talks about her recent book, Seeing and Believing: Religion, Digital Visual Culture, and Social Justice.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 23 Jul 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Seeing and Believing: Ellen T. Armour</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/f8aa7980-3e07-11ee-8837-2f498e4d2c30/image/546fef.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Ellen T. Armour discusses the way the media of photography and video have changed our way of thinking and feeling, and the fundamental nature of our relationships with others.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Ellen T. Armour discusses the way the media of photography and video have changed our way of thinking and feeling, and the fundamental nature of our relationships with others. She talks about her recent book, Seeing and Believing: Religion, Digital Visual Culture, and Social Justice.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Ellen T. Armour discusses the way the media of photography and video have changed our way of thinking and feeling, and the fundamental nature of our relationships with others. She talks about her recent book, Seeing and Believing: Religion, Digital Visual Culture, and Social Justice.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3536</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2329 - Jill Hicks-Keeton and Cavan Concannon - The Politics of Biblical Interpretation</title>
      <description>Our guests, Jill Hicks-Keeton and Cavan Concannon, talk about their recent book, Does Scripture Speak for Itself? The book explores the cultural, ethical, and political aspects of the Museum of the Bible in Washington, DC.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Jill Hicks-Keeton and Cavan Concannon - The Politics of Biblical Interpretation</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/4ea4b544-2995-11ee-b38f-d377ac3e990a/image/c8d425.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guests, Jill Hicks-Keeton and Cavan Concannon, talk about their recent book, Does Scripture Speak for Itself? </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guests, Jill Hicks-Keeton and Cavan Concannon, talk about their recent book, Does Scripture Speak for Itself? The book explores the cultural, ethical, and political aspects of the Museum of the Bible in Washington, DC.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guests, Jill Hicks-Keeton and Cavan Concannon, talk about their recent book, Does Scripture Speak for Itself? The book explores the cultural, ethical, and political aspects of the Museum of the Bible in Washington, DC.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3545</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2328 - The Life of Sojourner Truth - Nancy Koester</title>
      <description>Our guest Nancy Koester talks about her recent book, We Will Be Free: The Life and Faith of Sojourner Truth
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      <pubDate>Sun, 09 Jul 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Life of Sojourner Truth - Nancy Koester</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/21d61a9a-2994-11ee-8e84-77d26869a2f7/image/564af6.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Nancy Koester talks about her recent book, We Will Be Free: The Life and Faith of Sojourner Truth</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Nancy Koester talks about her recent book, We Will Be Free: The Life and Faith of Sojourner Truth
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Nancy Koester talks about her recent book, We Will Be Free: The Life and Faith of Sojourner Truth</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3687</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2327 - Practice of the Presence: Carmen Acevedo Butcher [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Our guest, Dr. Carmen Acevedo Butcher, talks about her powerful translation of Brother Lawrence's The Practice of the Presence, and how she helped this ancient classic find a new voice for contemporary readers.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 02 Jul 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Practice of the Presence: Carmen Acevedo Butcher [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/d8c7cda8-2411-11ee-9bfa-5f5a31e6e521/image/a59911.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Dr. Carmen Acevedo Butcher, talks about her powerful translation of Brother Lawrence's The Practice of the Presence, and how she helped this ancient classic find a new voice for contemporary readers.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Dr. Carmen Acevedo Butcher, talks about her powerful translation of Brother Lawrence's The Practice of the Presence, and how she helped this ancient classic find a new voice for contemporary readers.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Dr. Carmen Acevedo Butcher, talks about her powerful translation of Brother Lawrence's The Practice of the Presence, and how she helped this ancient classic find a new voice for contemporary readers.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3914</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2326 - Extravagant Inefficiency: Adam Bucko</title>
      <description>Our guest Adam Bucko talks about his recent book, Let Your Heartbreak Be Your Guide, and how we can cultivate a spiritual practice of "curious not-knowing"
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      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Jun 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Extravagant Inefficiency: Adam Bucko</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7915b9ca-2410-11ee-94c1-affd8a0d9b89/image/3013a1.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Adam Bucko talks about his recent book, Let Your Heartbreak Be Your Guide, and how we can cultivate a spiritual practice of "curious not-knowing"</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Adam Bucko talks about his recent book, Let Your Heartbreak Be Your Guide, and how we can cultivate a spiritual practice of "curious not-knowing"
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Adam Bucko talks about his recent book, <em>Let Your Heartbreak Be Your Guide</em>, and how we can cultivate a spiritual practice of "curious not-knowing"</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3587</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2325 - Deep Friendships Across Difference: Susan Bigelow Reynolds</title>
      <description>Our guest, Professor Susan Bigelow Reynolds, discusses her recent book, People Get Ready: Ritual, Solidarity, and Lived Ecclesiology in Catholic Roxbury
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      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Jun 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Deep Friendships Across Difference: Susan Bigelow Reynolds</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/ed592a94-23ff-11ee-a327-4fe585bd92aa/image/26dda9.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Professor Susan Bigelow Reynolds, discusses her recent book, People Get Ready: Ritual, Solidarity, and Lived Ecclesiology in Catholic Roxbury</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Professor Susan Bigelow Reynolds, discusses her recent book, People Get Ready: Ritual, Solidarity, and Lived Ecclesiology in Catholic Roxbury
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Professor Susan Bigelow Reynolds, discusses her recent book, <em>People Get Ready: Ritual, Solidarity, and Lived Ecclesiology in Catholic Roxbury</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3731</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2324 - The Importance of Hope: John Blake</title>
      <description>Award-winning journalist John Blake tells the story of his quest to reconcile with his white mother and the family he’d never met—and how faith brought them all together. He talks with us about his recent book, More Than I Imagined
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      <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Importance of Hope: John Blake</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/074ecdf2-1954-11ee-900c-2f9fcb5b9f77/image/14f841.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Award-winning journalist John Blake tells the story of his quest to reconcile with his white mother and the family he’d never met—and how faith brought them all together.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Award-winning journalist John Blake tells the story of his quest to reconcile with his white mother and the family he’d never met—and how faith brought them all together. He talks with us about his recent book, More Than I Imagined
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Award-winning journalist John Blake tells the story of his quest to reconcile with his white mother and the family he’d never met—and how faith brought them all together. He talks with us about his recent book, <em>More Than I Imagined</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3616</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2323 - Parables for the Queer Soul: Rolf R. Nolasco, Jr. [Rebroadcast] </title>
      <description>In his recent book, Hearts Ablaze: Parables for the Queer Soul, our guest Rolf Nolasco looks at ten selected parables of Jesus, that expand the scope of interpretation of each story to highlight God's extravagant welcome of all people.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2023 05:01:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Parables for the Queer Soul: Rolf R. Nolasco, Jr. [Rebroadcast] </itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/74a07e56-0878-11ee-b2fa-bb580c1d9839/image/f38fd2.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In his recent book, Hearts Ablaze: Parables for the Queer Soul, our guest Rolf Nolasco looks at ten selected parables of Jesus, that expand the scope of interpretation of each story to highlight God's extravagant welcome of all people.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In his recent book, Hearts Ablaze: Parables for the Queer Soul, our guest Rolf Nolasco looks at ten selected parables of Jesus, that expand the scope of interpretation of each story to highlight God's extravagant welcome of all people.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In his recent book, Hearts Ablaze: Parables for the Queer Soul, our guest Rolf Nolasco looks at ten selected parables of Jesus, that expand the scope of interpretation of each story to highlight God's extravagant welcome of all people.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3661</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2322 - The Gift of Sabbath Across Faith Traditions: Martin Doblmeier</title>
      <description>Filmmaker Martin Doblmeier returns to Things Not See to discuss his wonderful new documentary, Sabbath, available now from Journey Films
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      <pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Gift of Sabbath Across Faith Traditions: Martin Doblmeier</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/1dd8a288-fd7e-11ed-a9b6-33e30c1d8299/image/e74468.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Filmmaker Martin Doblmeier returns to Things Not See to discuss his wonderful new documentary, Sabbath, available now from Journey Films</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Filmmaker Martin Doblmeier returns to Things Not See to discuss his wonderful new documentary, Sabbath, available now from Journey Films
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Filmmaker Martin Doblmeier returns to Things Not See to discuss his wonderful new documentary, Sabbath, available now from Journey Films</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3645</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2321 - An Invitation to Joy: Daniel J. Denk</title>
      <description>Our guest Daniel J. Denk invites us on a journey to explore the shape and possibility of human flourishing, as he discusses his recent book, An Invitation to Joy
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      <pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>An Invitation to Joy: Daniel J. Denk</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Daniel J. Denk invites us on a journey to explore the shape and possibility of human flourishing, as he discusses his recent book, An Invitation to Joy</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Daniel J. Denk invites us on a journey to explore the shape and possibility of human flourishing, as he discusses his recent book, An Invitation to Joy
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Daniel J. Denk invites us on a journey to explore the shape and possibility of human flourishing, as he discusses his recent book, An Invitation to Joy</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3465</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2320 - A Call to Action for the Marginalized - Miguel De La Torre</title>
      <description>Professor Miguel De La Torre returns to Things Not Seen to discuss his recent book, Resisting Apartheid America
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      <pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Call to Action for the Marginalized - Miguel De La Torre</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Professor Miguel De La Torre returns to Things Not Seen to discuss his recent book, Resisting Apartheid America</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Professor Miguel De La Torre returns to Things Not Seen to discuss his recent book, Resisting Apartheid America
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        <![CDATA[<p>Professor Miguel De La Torre returns to Things Not Seen to discuss his recent book, Resisting Apartheid America</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3575</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2319 - The Dangerous Religion of the Corporate Space Race: Mary-Jane Rubenstein</title>
      <description>Over the past decades, America and other nations have ceded the mantle of space exploration to private firms and the wealthy buccaneers who run them. Our guest Mary-Jane Rubenstein helps us understand what we have sought to gain from such a Faustian bargain, and what we have lost. We talk about her recent book Astrotopia: The Dangerous Religion of the Corporate Space Race.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Dangerous Religion of the Corporate Space Race: Mary-Jane Rubenstein</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Over the past decades, America and other nations have ceded the mantle of space exploration to private firms and the wealthy buccaneers who run them. Our guest Mary-Jane Rubenstein helps us understand what we have sought to gain from such a Faustian bargain, and what we have lost. We talk about her recent book Astrotopia: The Dangerous Religion of the Corporate Space Race.﻿</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Over the past decades, America and other nations have ceded the mantle of space exploration to private firms and the wealthy buccaneers who run them. Our guest Mary-Jane Rubenstein helps us understand what we have sought to gain from such a Faustian bargain, and what we have lost. We talk about her recent book Astrotopia: The Dangerous Religion of the Corporate Space Race.
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Over the past decades, America and other nations have ceded the mantle of space exploration to private firms and the wealthy buccaneers who run them. Our guest Mary-Jane Rubenstein helps us understand what we have sought to gain from such a Faustian bargain, and what we have lost. We talk about her recent book <em>Astrotopia: The Dangerous Religion of the Corporate Space Race.</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3759</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2318 - An Imagery of Infinite Possibility: David Dark [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Author and educator David Dark returns to Things Not Seen to discuss the reframed and expanded edition of his book, Life's Too Short to Pretend You're Not Religious.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>An Imagery of Infinite Possibility: David Dark [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Author and educator David Dark returns to Things Not Seen to discuss the reframed and expanded edition of his book, Life's Too Short to Pretend You're Not Religious.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Author and educator David Dark returns to Things Not Seen to discuss the reframed and expanded edition of his book, Life's Too Short to Pretend You're Not Religious.
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        <![CDATA[<p>Author and educator David Dark returns to Things Not Seen to discuss the reframed and expanded edition of his book, Life's Too Short to Pretend You're Not Religious.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3818</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2317 - The Psychology of Christian Nationalism: Pamela Cooper-White</title>
      <description>Our guest, Union Theological Seminary professor Pamela Cooper-White, discusses how to overcome the polarization that has gripped American communities, both politically and religiously
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      <pubDate>Sun, 23 Apr 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Psychology of Christian Nationalism: Pamela Cooper-White</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/077d9a9e-e21b-11ed-8a15-af3a1525bf33/image/4ea1ac.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Union Theological Seminary professor Pamela Cooper-White, discusses how to overcome the polarization that has gripped American communities, both politically and religiously</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Union Theological Seminary professor Pamela Cooper-White, discusses how to overcome the polarization that has gripped American communities, both politically and religiously
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Union Theological Seminary professor Pamela Cooper-White, discusses how to overcome the polarization that has gripped American communities, both politically and religiously</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3815</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2316 - Ensure the Pages Are Worthy: Cole Arthur Riley [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Our guest, Cole Arthur Riley, talks to us about her brilliant recent book, This Here Flesh, which weaves together four generations of lived experience into a book that is both a theological meditation and a memoir of loss and liberation.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 16 Apr 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Ensure the Pages Are Worthy: Cole Arthur Riley [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/df1b3760-e219-11ed-9427-fbce526940de/image/38bf95.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Cole Arthur Riley, talks to us about her brilliant recent book, This Here Flesh, which weaves together four generations of lived experience into a book that is both a theological meditation and a memoir of loss and liberation.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Cole Arthur Riley, talks to us about her brilliant recent book, This Here Flesh, which weaves together four generations of lived experience into a book that is both a theological meditation and a memoir of loss and liberation.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Cole Arthur Riley, talks to us about her brilliant recent book, This Here Flesh, which weaves together four generations of lived experience into a book that is both a theological meditation and a memoir of loss and liberation.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3576</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2315 - What is Worthy of Your Finitude? J. Aaron Simmons</title>
      <description>We are delighted to welcome back to the show our guest, philosopher J. Aaron Simmons. He talks about his ongoing project, Camping with Kierkegaard, and the ways he is trying to bring philosophical reflection into public conversation.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>What is Worthy of Your Finitude? J. Aaron Simmons</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>We are delighted to welcome back to the show our guest, philosopher J. Aaron Simmons. He talks about his ongoing project, Camping with Kierkegaard, and the ways he is trying to bring philosophical reflection into public conversation.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We are delighted to welcome back to the show our guest, philosopher J. Aaron Simmons. He talks about his ongoing project, Camping with Kierkegaard, and the ways he is trying to bring philosophical reflection into public conversation.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We are delighted to welcome back to the show our guest, philosopher J. Aaron Simmons. He talks about his ongoing project, <em>Camping with Kierkegaard</em>, and the ways he is trying to bring philosophical reflection into public conversation.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>4063</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2314 - Beauty Moves the Human Heart: Nichole M. Flores [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>In her recent book, The Aesthetics of Solidarity, our guest, professor Nichole M. Flores, explores how Our Lady of Guadalupe has been used as a symbol in democratic campaigns ranging from the Chicano movement and United Farm Workers' movements to contemporary calls for just immigration reform.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Beauty Moves the Human Heart: Nichole M. Flores [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/9acd4fc6-d193-11ed-b186-a707a1a68051/image/c041de.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In her recent book, The Aesthetics of Solidarity, our guest, professor Nichole M. Flores, explores how Our Lady of Guadalupe has been used as a symbol in democratic campaigns ranging from the Chicano movement and United Farm Workers' movements to contemporary calls for just immigration reform.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In her recent book, The Aesthetics of Solidarity, our guest, professor Nichole M. Flores, explores how Our Lady of Guadalupe has been used as a symbol in democratic campaigns ranging from the Chicano movement and United Farm Workers' movements to contemporary calls for just immigration reform.
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In her recent book, <em>The Aesthetics of Solidarity</em>, our guest, professor Nichole M. Flores, explores how Our Lady of Guadalupe has been used as a symbol in democratic campaigns ranging from the Chicano movement and United Farm Workers' movements to contemporary calls for just immigration reform.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3659</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2313 - Quick to Listen, Slow to Speak: Jon Ward</title>
      <description>Our guest, journalist Jon Ward, talks to us about his recent book, Testimony: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Failed a Generation
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      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Mar 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Quick to Listen, Slow to Speak: Jon Ward</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, journalist Jon Ward, talks to us about his recent book, Testimony: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Failed a Generation</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, journalist Jon Ward, talks to us about his recent book, Testimony: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Failed a Generation
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, journalist Jon Ward, talks to us about his recent book, Testimony: Inside the Evangelical Movement That Failed a Generation</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3459</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2312 - The Sacred Just Beneath the Surface - Barbara Mahany</title>
      <description>Our guest Barbara Mahany returns to the show to talk about her wonderful recent book, The Book of Nature
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      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Sacred Just Beneath the Surface - Barbara Mahany</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/9471407e-c6a3-11ed-a459-8b749b4017bf/image/96ca45.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Barbara Mahany returns to the show to talk about her wonderful recent book, The Book of Nature</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Barbara Mahany returns to the show to talk about her wonderful recent book, The Book of Nature
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Barbara Mahany returns to the show to talk about her wonderful recent book, <em>The Book of Nature</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3480</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2311 - The Priest for the People with Problems: Dawn Eden Goldstein</title>
      <description>Our guest Dawn Eden Goldstein discusses her new book. which tells the story of Father Ed Dowling, SJ, the Jesuit priest who helped to spread the word about Alcoholics Anonymous. 
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      <pubDate>Sun, 12 Mar 2023 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Priest for the People with Problems: Dawn Eden Goldstein</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/35b0ad48-c14b-11ed-92fc-3bc808457f03/image/570bb3.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Dawn Eden Goldstein discusses her new book. which tells the story of Father Ed Dowling, SJ, the Jesuit priest who helped to spread the word about Alcoholics Anonymous. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Dawn Eden Goldstein discusses her new book. which tells the story of Father Ed Dowling, SJ, the Jesuit priest who helped to spread the word about Alcoholics Anonymous. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Dawn Eden Goldstein discusses her new book. which tells the story of Father Ed Dowling, SJ, the Jesuit priest who helped to spread the word about Alcoholics Anonymous. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3890</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2310 - The Church's Mission in a Polarized World: Fr. Robert Aaron Wessman, </title>
      <description>Our guest, Fr. R. Aaron Wessman, invites listeners to consider how to cross over the many barriers our culture puts up between us. He discusses his recent book, The Church's Mission in a Polarized World.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2023 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Church's Mission in a Polarized World: Fr. Robert Aaron Wessman, </itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/350c7042-baf8-11ed-8ac6-4f72014f53e2/image/446304.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Fr. R. Aaron Wessman, invites listeners to consider how to cross over the many barriers our culture puts up between us. He discusses his recent book, The Church's Mission in a Polarized World.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Fr. R. Aaron Wessman, invites listeners to consider how to cross over the many barriers our culture puts up between us. He discusses his recent book, The Church's Mission in a Polarized World.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Fr. R. Aaron Wessman, invites listeners to consider how to cross over the many barriers our culture puts up between us. He discusses his recent book, <em>The Church's Mission in a Polarized World.</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3760</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2309 - The Virtue Field: Eric Bowman on Harriet Tubman</title>
      <description>We speak with Eric Bowman, educator and founder of the Revolution Ethics Project, about his 2022 podcast series, The Virtue Field, which explores the life of anti-slavery activist Harriet Tubman
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      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2023 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Virtue Field: Eric Bowman on Harriet Tubman</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/dbf062e0-b70d-11ed-aaed-67aaf9526e62/image/1c380c.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak with Eric Bowman, educator and founder of the Revolution Ethics Project, about his 2022 podcast series, The Virtue Field, which explores the life of anti-slavery activist Harriet Tubman</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We speak with Eric Bowman, educator and founder of the Revolution Ethics Project, about his 2022 podcast series, The Virtue Field, which explores the life of anti-slavery activist Harriet Tubman
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We speak with Eric Bowman, educator and founder of the Revolution Ethics Project, about his 2022 podcast series, The Virtue Field, which explores the life of anti-slavery activist Harriet Tubman</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3503</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[dbf062e0-b70d-11ed-aaed-67aaf9526e62]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM9505049739.mp3?updated=1677551155" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2308 - God Is a Black Woman: Christena Cleveland [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Our guest Dr. Christina Cleveland talks about her theological and personal journey to re-think her images of God's divinity, particularly the "whitemalegod," to discover a God that could honestly relate to the experience of Black women
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      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2023 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>God Is a Black Woman: Christena Cleveland [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7841708e-b589-11ed-9ab8-0fcce5038533/image/b23dc3.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Dr. Christina Cleveland talks about her theological and personal journey to re-think her images of God's divinity, particularly the "whitemalegod," to discover a God that could honestly relate to the experience of Black women</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Dr. Christina Cleveland talks about her theological and personal journey to re-think her images of God's divinity, particularly the "whitemalegod," to discover a God that could honestly relate to the experience of Black women
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Dr. Christina Cleveland talks about her theological and personal journey to re-think her images of God's divinity, particularly the "whitemalegod," to discover a God that could honestly relate to the experience of Black women</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3815</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[7841708e-b589-11ed-9ab8-0fcce5038533]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM7969653936.mp3?updated=1677384426" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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    <item>
      <title>#2307 - Building Beloved Community: Jacob L. Goodson and Brad Elliott Stone</title>
      <description>We welcome back to the show philosophers Jacob Goodson and Brad Elliott Stone to talk about their recent book, co-authored with Pastor Philip Rudolph Kuehnert, Building Beloved Community in a Wounded World
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      <pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2023 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Building Beloved Community: Jacob L. Goodson and Brad Elliott Stone</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/0c2e3cc4-ab20-11ed-9f46-077a6de55ea5/image/0deaba.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We welcome back to the show philosophers Jacob Goodson and Brad Elliott Stone to talk about their recent book, co-authored with Pastor Philip Rudolph Kuehnert, Building Beloved Community in a Wounded World</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We welcome back to the show philosophers Jacob Goodson and Brad Elliott Stone to talk about their recent book, co-authored with Pastor Philip Rudolph Kuehnert, Building Beloved Community in a Wounded World
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We welcome back to the show philosophers Jacob Goodson and Brad Elliott Stone to talk about their recent book, co-authored with Pastor Philip Rudolph Kuehnert, Building Beloved Community in a Wounded World</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3767</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[0c2e3cc4-ab20-11ed-9f46-077a6de55ea5]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM5537228979.mp3?updated=1676240776" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2306 - Parables for the Queer Soul: Rolf R. Nolasco, Jr</title>
      <description>In his recent book, Hearts Ablaze: Parables for the Queer Soul, our guest Rolf Nolasco looks at ten selected parables of Jesus, that expand the scope of interpretation of each story to highlight God's extravagant welcome of all people.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2023 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title> Parables for the Queer Soul: Rolf R. Nolasco, Jr</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/973c64f6-a2a8-11ed-bfa5-f7a525effcac/image/558c47.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In his recent book, Hearts Ablaze: Parables for the Queer Soul, our guest Rolf Nolasco looks at ten selected parables of Jesus, that expand the scope of interpretation of each story to highlight God's extravagant welcome of all people.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In his recent book, Hearts Ablaze: Parables for the Queer Soul, our guest Rolf Nolasco looks at ten selected parables of Jesus, that expand the scope of interpretation of each story to highlight God's extravagant welcome of all people.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In his recent book, <em>Hearts Ablaze: Parables for the Queer Soul</em>, our guest Rolf Nolasco looks at ten selected parables of Jesus, that expand the scope of interpretation of each story to highlight God's extravagant welcome of all people.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3661</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[973c64f6-a2a8-11ed-bfa5-f7a525effcac]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM4197249318.mp3?updated=1675308626" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2305 - Dignity and Responsibility: Anthony M. Annett</title>
      <description>In his recent book, Cathonomics, our guest Anthony M. Annett draws on economics, Catholic social thought, philosophy, climate science, and psychology to show how readers of all faiths and backgrounds can work together to create a more just economy.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 29 Jan 2023 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Dignity and Responsibility: Anthony M. Annett</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/f3c99a4c-9cd9-11ed-a152-7bacd8ea452e/image/dc9e87.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In his recent book, Cathonomics, our guest Anthony M. Annett draws on economics, Catholic social thought, philosophy, climate science, and psychology to show how readers of all faiths and backgrounds can work together to create a more just economy.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In his recent book, Cathonomics, our guest Anthony M. Annett draws on economics, Catholic social thought, philosophy, climate science, and psychology to show how readers of all faiths and backgrounds can work together to create a more just economy.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In his recent book, <em>Cathonomics</em>, our guest Anthony M. Annett draws on economics, Catholic social thought, philosophy, climate science, and psychology to show how readers of all faiths and backgrounds can work together to create a more just economy.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3722</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[f3c99a4c-9cd9-11ed-a152-7bacd8ea452e]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM2522821846.mp3?updated=1674670464" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2304 - Practice of the Presence: Carmen Acevedo Butcher</title>
      <description>Our guest, Dr. Carmen Acevedo Butcher, talks about her powerful translation of Brother Lawrence's The Practice of the Presence, and how she helped this ancient classic find a new voice for contemporary readers.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2023 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Practice of the Presence: Carmen Acevedo Butcher</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/83ff8532-984c-11ed-8e8f-bf9216302042/image/01daa8.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Dr. Carmen Acevedo Butcher, talks about her powerful translation of Brother Lawrence's The Practice of the Presence, and how she helped this ancient classic find a new voice for contemporary readers.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Dr. Carmen Acevedo Butcher, talks about her powerful translation of Brother Lawrence's The Practice of the Presence, and how she helped this ancient classic find a new voice for contemporary readers.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Dr. Carmen Acevedo Butcher, talks about her powerful translation of Brother Lawrence's The Practice of the Presence, and how she helped this ancient classic find a new voice for contemporary readers.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3914</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[83ff8532-984c-11ed-8e8f-bf9216302042]]></guid>
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      <title>#2303 - All the White Friends I Couldn't Keep: Andre Henry [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Our guest Andre Henry talks about his journey into "artivism" - a mixture of activism and artistry aimed at revolutionary change and decolonization. We talk about his recent book All the White Friends I Couldn't Keep, and his invitation to work on behalf of the safety and joy of Black lives
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      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2023 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>All the White Friends I Couldn't Keep: Andre Henry [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/44344f3e-984a-11ed-ae22-2ff32d7ae8e6/image/499907.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Andre Henry talks about his journey into "artivism" - a mixture of activism and artistry aimed at revolutionary change and decolonization. We talk about his recent book All the White Friends I Couldn't Keep, and his invitation to work on behalf of the safety and joy of Black lives</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Andre Henry talks about his journey into "artivism" - a mixture of activism and artistry aimed at revolutionary change and decolonization. We talk about his recent book All the White Friends I Couldn't Keep, and his invitation to work on behalf of the safety and joy of Black lives
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Andre Henry talks about his journey into "artivism" - a mixture of activism and artistry aimed at revolutionary change and decolonization. We talk about his recent book <em>All the White Friends I Couldn't Keep</em>, and his invitation to work on behalf of the safety and joy of Black lives</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3730</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2302 - The Reshaping of the American Church: Bob Smietana</title>
      <description>In his recent book, Reorganized Religion, our guest, veteran religion reporter Bob Smietana, offers an in-depth and critical look at why people are leaving American churches and what we lose as a society as it continues.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2023 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Reshaping of the American Church: Bob Smietana</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/9ce0acb6-910d-11ed-a26d-ffb840e24f05/image/fb630e.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In his recent book, Reorganized Religion, our guest, veteran religion reporter  Bob Smietana, offers an in-depth and critical look at why people are leaving American churches and what we lose as a society as it continues.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In his recent book, Reorganized Religion, our guest, veteran religion reporter Bob Smietana, offers an in-depth and critical look at why people are leaving American churches and what we lose as a society as it continues.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In his recent book, Reorganized Religion, our guest, veteran religion reporter Bob Smietana, offers an in-depth and critical look at why people are leaving American churches and what we lose as a society as it continues.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>4034</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[9ce0acb6-910d-11ed-a26d-ffb840e24f05]]></guid>
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      <title>#2301 - An Imaginary of Infinite Possibility: David Dark</title>
      <description>Author and educator David Dark returns to Things Not Seen to discuss the reframed and expanded edition of his book, Life's Too Short to Pretend You're Not Religious. As he reminds us, 'religion' touches on all our commitments, large and small, as we navigate our daily lives.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 01 Jan 2023 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>An Imaginary of Infinite Possibility: David Dark</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/d66ca63c-8a29-11ed-9b58-f32603e5520b/image/4aebc3.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Author and educator David Dark returns to Things Not Seen to discuss the reframed and expanded edition of his book, Life's Too Short to Pretend You're Not Religious.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Author and educator David Dark returns to Things Not Seen to discuss the reframed and expanded edition of his book, Life's Too Short to Pretend You're Not Religious. As he reminds us, 'religion' touches on all our commitments, large and small, as we navigate our daily lives.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Author and educator David Dark returns to Things Not Seen to discuss the reframed and expanded edition of his book, <em>Life's Too Short to Pretend You're Not Religious</em>. As he reminds us, 'religion' touches on all our commitments, large and small, as we navigate our daily lives.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3818</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[d66ca63c-8a29-11ed-9b58-f32603e5520b]]></guid>
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      <title>#2252 - The Life and Music of Mary Lou Williams: Deanna Witkowski [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Our guest, jazz musician Deanna Witkoski, has written a spiritual biography of Mary Lou Williams, whose life and music helped to shape American Jazz and influence Catholic liturgy in the 20th Century.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2022 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Life and Music of Mary Lou Williams: Deanna Witkowski [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>52</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/b3ae6be2-8a26-11ed-80a3-a3f3dfe08507/image/854fb7.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, jazz musician Deanna Witkoski, has written a spiritual biography of Mary Lou Williams, whose life and music helped to shape American Jazz and influence Catholic liturgy in the 20th Century</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, jazz musician Deanna Witkoski, has written a spiritual biography of Mary Lou Williams, whose life and music helped to shape American Jazz and influence Catholic liturgy in the 20th Century.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, jazz musician Deanna Witkoski, has written a spiritual biography of Mary Lou Williams, whose life and music helped to shape American Jazz and influence Catholic liturgy in the 20th Century.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3804</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2251 - Meeting the Magi: Eric Vanden Eykel</title>
      <description>In his recent book, The Magi, our guest Eric Vanden Eykel examines the birth of the Magi story; its enrichments, embellishments, and expansions in apocryphal writing and early Christian preaching; its artistic expressions in catacombs, icons, and paintings and its modern legacy in novels, poetry, and music.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2022 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Meeting the Magi: Eric Vanden Eykel</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>51</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In his recent book, The Magi, our guest Eric Vanden Eykel examines the birth of the Magi story; its enrichments, embellishments, and expansions in apocryphal writing and early Christian preaching; its artistic expressions in catacombs, icons, and paintings and its modern legacy in novels, poetry, and music.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In his recent book, The Magi, our guest Eric Vanden Eykel examines the birth of the Magi story; its enrichments, embellishments, and expansions in apocryphal writing and early Christian preaching; its artistic expressions in catacombs, icons, and paintings and its modern legacy in novels, poetry, and music.
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        <![CDATA[<p>In his recent book, The Magi, our guest Eric Vanden Eykel examines the birth of the Magi story; its enrichments, embellishments, and expansions in apocryphal writing and early Christian preaching; its artistic expressions in catacombs, icons, and paintings and its modern legacy in novels, poetry, and music.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3425</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2250 - The Human Quest for Meaning: Brian Schmisek</title>
      <description>Our guest, Dr. Brian Schmisek, explores the many ways that we look to the world to find prophecies and signals for how we are meant to live. He talks with us about his recent book, Signs, Superstitions, and God's Plan.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 11 Dec 2022 23:25:44 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Human Quest for Meaning: Brian Schmisek</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>50</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Dr. Brian Schmisek, explores the many ways that we look to the world to find prophecies and signals for how we are meant to live. He talks with us about his recent book, Signs, Superstitions, and God's Plan.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Dr. Brian Schmisek, explores the many ways that we look to the world to find prophecies and signals for how we are meant to live. He talks with us about his recent book, Signs, Superstitions, and God's Plan.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Dr. Brian Schmisek, explores the many ways that we look to the world to find prophecies and signals for how we are meant to live. He talks with us about his recent book, <em>Signs, Superstitions, and God's Plan</em>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3546</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2249 - Love Is the Center: Lewis V. Baldwin</title>
      <description>Martin Luther King Jr. said and wrote as much or more about the meaning, nature, and power of truth as any other prominent figure in the 1950s and '60s. Our guest, Lewis V. Baldwin, draws on King's published and unpublished sermons, speeches, and writings, in his recent book, The Arc of Truth, to explore King's lifelong pilgrimage in pursuit of truth.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2022 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Love Is the Center: Lewis V. Baldwin</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>49</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Martin Luther King Jr. said and wrote as much or more about the meaning, nature, and power of truth as any other prominent figure in the 1950s and '60s. Our guest, Lewis V. Baldwin, draws on King's published and unpublished sermons, speeches, and writings, in his recent book, The Arc of Truth, to explore King's lifelong pilgrimage in pursuit of truth.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Martin Luther King Jr. said and wrote as much or more about the meaning, nature, and power of truth as any other prominent figure in the 1950s and '60s. Our guest, Lewis V. Baldwin, draws on King's published and unpublished sermons, speeches, and writings, in his recent book, The Arc of Truth, to explore King's lifelong pilgrimage in pursuit of truth.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Martin Luther King Jr. said and wrote as much or more about the meaning, nature, and power of truth as any other prominent figure in the 1950s and '60s. Our guest, Lewis V. Baldwin, draws on King's published and unpublished sermons, speeches, and writings, in his recent book, <em>The Arc of Truth, </em>to explore King's lifelong pilgrimage in pursuit of truth.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3738</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2248 - Christ's Distressing Disguise: Jon M. Sweeney on Teresa of Calcutta</title>
      <description>Our guest Jon M. Sweeney returns to our show to talk about his recent book, Teresa of Calcutta: Dark Night, Active Love. This biography shows Mother Teresa as the first great saint of television. Presented in three parts, this biography looks at the preparation, the call, and the legacy of the extraordinary woman whom Pope Francis named Saint Teresa of Calcutta in 2016.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2022 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Christ's Distressing Disguise: Jon M. Sweeney on Teresa of Calcutta</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>48</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/85f07420-71b2-11ed-9d25-f3ef125cac45/image/c0fede.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Jon M. Sweeney returns to our show to talk about his recent book, Teresa of Calcutta: Dark Night, Active Love.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Jon M. Sweeney returns to our show to talk about his recent book, Teresa of Calcutta: Dark Night, Active Love. This biography shows Mother Teresa as the first great saint of television. Presented in three parts, this biography looks at the preparation, the call, and the legacy of the extraordinary woman whom Pope Francis named Saint Teresa of Calcutta in 2016.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Jon M. Sweeney returns to our show to talk about his recent book, Teresa of Calcutta: Dark Night, Active Love. This biography shows Mother Teresa as the first great saint of television. Presented in three parts, this biography looks at the preparation, the call, and the legacy of the extraordinary woman whom Pope Francis named Saint Teresa of Calcutta in 2016.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3680</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2247 - Receiving the Gift of Our Mortality: James K. A. Smith</title>
      <description>Popular speaker and award-winning author James K. A. Smith returns to our show to explain that we must reckon with the past in order to discern the present and have hope for the future. In his recent book, How to Inhabit Time, Smith brings together popular culture, biblical exposition, and meditation, he helps us develop a sense of "temporal awareness" that is attuned to the texture of history, the vicissitudes of life, and the tempo of the Spirit.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 20 Nov 2022 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Receiving the Gift of Our Mortality: James K. A. Smith</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>47</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Popular speaker and award-winning author James K. A. Smith returns to our show to explain that we must reckon with the past in order to discern the present and have hope for the future. In his recent book, How to Inhabit Time, Smith brings together popular culture, biblical exposition, and meditation, he helps us develop a sense of "temporal awareness" that is attuned to the texture of history, the vicissitudes of life, and the tempo of the Spirit.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Popular speaker and award-winning author James K. A. Smith returns to our show to explain that we must reckon with the past in order to discern the present and have hope for the future. In his recent book, How to Inhabit Time, Smith brings together popular culture, biblical exposition, and meditation, he helps us develop a sense of "temporal awareness" that is attuned to the texture of history, the vicissitudes of life, and the tempo of the Spirit.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Popular speaker and award-winning author James K. A. Smith returns to our show to explain that we must reckon with the past in order to discern the present and have hope for the future. In his recent book, <em>How to Inhabit Time, </em>Smith brings together popular culture, biblical exposition, and meditation, he helps us develop a sense of "temporal awareness" that is attuned to the texture of history, the vicissitudes of life, and the tempo of the Spirit.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3437</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2246 - Hope in Our Bodies: Maryann McKibben Dana</title>
      <description>Rev. Maryann McKibben Dana returns to our show to talk about her recent book, Hope: A User's Manual. She reflects on the surprising place where hope is often found--in the messiness of our imperfect, flawed, beautiful human bodies.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 13 Nov 2022 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Hope in Our Bodies: Maryann McKibben Dana</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>46</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/d2f86ac8-6f61-11ed-a230-7f311b0b3baa/image/154068.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Rev. Maryann McKibben Dana returns to our show to talk about her recent book, Hope: A User's Manual. She reflects on the surprising place where hope is often found--in the messiness of our imperfect, flawed, beautiful human bodies.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Rev. Maryann McKibben Dana returns to our show to talk about her recent book, Hope: A User's Manual. She reflects on the surprising place where hope is often found--in the messiness of our imperfect, flawed, beautiful human bodies.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Rev. Maryann McKibben Dana returns to our show to talk about her recent book, Hope: A User's Manual. She reflects on the surprising place where hope is often found--in the messiness of our imperfect, flawed, beautiful human bodies.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3627</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2245 - Notes of a Native Daughter: Keri Day [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Our guest, Princeton Seminary professor Keri Day, talks about her recent book, Notes of a Native Daughter. In it, she challenges the norms and assumptions of theological education and invites readers to a revolutionary hope.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2022 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Notes of a Native Daughter: Keri Day [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>46</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/3af2bfe6-6f5a-11ed-a265-ffd25b7d08c4/image/8be14a.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Princeton Seminary professor Keri Day, talks about her recent book, Notes of a Native Daughter. In it, she challenges the norms and assumptions of theological education and invites readers to a revolutionary hope.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Princeton Seminary professor Keri Day, talks about her recent book, Notes of a Native Daughter. In it, she challenges the norms and assumptions of theological education and invites readers to a revolutionary hope.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Princeton Seminary professor Keri Day, talks about her recent book, Notes of a Native Daughter. In it, she challenges the norms and assumptions of theological education and invites readers to a revolutionary hope.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3966</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2244 - Materializing the Bible: James S. Bielo</title>
      <description>Our guest, anthropologist James Bielo, talks to us about his work studying the ways in which individuals and communities bring their Bibles to life through performance, rituals, and physical objects
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      <pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2022 01:17:27 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Materializing the Bible: James S. Bielo</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>44</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/f76746d2-58b8-11ed-b39c-1b4a6082124a/image/3f55c5.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, anthropologist James Bielo, talks to us about his work studying the ways in which individuals and communities bring their Bibles to life through performance, rituals, and physical objects</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, anthropologist James Bielo, talks to us about his work studying the ways in which individuals and communities bring their Bibles to life through performance, rituals, and physical objects
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, anthropologist James Bielo, talks to us about his work studying the ways in which individuals and communities bring their Bibles to life through performance, rituals, and physical objects</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3669</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2243 - Taking the Bible Seriously, Not Literally: Love Lazarus Sechrest</title>
      <description>In her recent book Race &amp; Rhyme, our guest Love Lazarus Sechrest invites listeners to explore biblical narratives in ways that enliven and ethically inform our present conditions. She discusses her method of associative hermeneutics in this far-ranging conversation about race, theology, and repairing the broken world.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2022 21:22:46 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Taking the Bible Seriously, Not Literally: Love Lazarus Sechrest</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>43</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/1c1748a4-5316-11ed-9c74-0fbbddfd5731/image/e35b0b.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In her recent book Race &amp; Rhyme, our guest Love Lazarus Sechrest invites listeners to explore biblical narratives in ways that enliven and ethically inform our present conditions. She discusses her method of associative hermeneutics in this far-ranging conversation about race, theology, and repairing the broken world.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In her recent book Race &amp; Rhyme, our guest Love Lazarus Sechrest invites listeners to explore biblical narratives in ways that enliven and ethically inform our present conditions. She discusses her method of associative hermeneutics in this far-ranging conversation about race, theology, and repairing the broken world.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In her recent book Race &amp; Rhyme, our guest Love Lazarus Sechrest invites listeners to explore biblical narratives in ways that enliven and ethically inform our present conditions. She discusses her method of associative hermeneutics in this far-ranging conversation about race, theology, and repairing the broken world.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3713</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2242 - Beauty Moves the Human Heart: Nichole M. Flores</title>
      <description>In her recent book, The Aesthetics of Solidarity, our guest, professor Nichole M. Flores, explores how Our Lady of Guadalupe has been used as a symbol in democratic campaigns ranging from the Chicano movement and United Farm Workers' movements to contemporary calls for just immigration reform.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2022 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Beauty moves the Human Heart: Nichole M. Flores</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>42</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/df6b33ba-4d08-11ed-b5e4-c3f215ebaad9/image/d21552.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In her recent book, The Aesthetics of Solidarity, our guest, professor Nichole M. Flores, explores how Our Lady of Guadalupe has been used as a symbol in democratic campaigns ranging from the Chicano movement and United Farm Workers' movements to contemporary calls for just immigration reform.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In her recent book, The Aesthetics of Solidarity, our guest, professor Nichole M. Flores, explores how Our Lady of Guadalupe has been used as a symbol in democratic campaigns ranging from the Chicano movement and United Farm Workers' movements to contemporary calls for just immigration reform.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In her recent book, <em>The Aesthetics of Solidarity</em>, our guest, professor Nichole M. Flores, explores how Our Lady of Guadalupe has been used as a symbol in democratic campaigns ranging from the Chicano movement and United Farm Workers' movements to contemporary calls for just immigration reform.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3659</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2241 - A New View of Kierkegaard: Robert C. Roberts</title>
      <description>Our guest Robert C. Roberts offers a new and revolutionary reading of the Christian philosopher, Soren Kierkegaard. Roberts suggests that it is virtue ethics, rather than existentialism, that holds the key to Kierkegaard's thought.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2022 19:39:57 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A New View of Kierkegaard: Robert C. Roberts</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>41</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/798d613a-4b2d-11ed-afe4-7713fa955e1c/image/c378b1.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Robert C. Roberts offers a new and revolutionary reading of the Christian philosopher, Soren Kierkegaard. Roberts suggests that it is virtue ethics, rather than existentialism, that holds the key to Kierkegaard's thought.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Robert C. Roberts offers a new and revolutionary reading of the Christian philosopher, Soren Kierkegaard. Roberts suggests that it is virtue ethics, rather than existentialism, that holds the key to Kierkegaard's thought.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Robert C. Roberts offers a new and revolutionary reading of the Christian philosopher, Soren Kierkegaard. Roberts suggests that it is virtue ethics, rather than existentialism, that holds the key to Kierkegaard's thought.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3271</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2240 - Evangelical Anxiety: Charles Marsh</title>
      <description>In this riveting spiritual memoir, our guest Charles Marsh tells the story of his struggle to find peace and the dramatic, inspiring transformation that redefined his life and his faith.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2022 19:08:08 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Evangelical Anxiety: Charles Marsh</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>40</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/aa0ae43c-4b27-11ed-a881-43aa3e3ceccb/image/17cc11.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this riveting spiritual memoir, our guest Charles Marsh tells the story of his struggle to find peace and the dramatic, inspiring transformation that redefined his life and his faith.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this riveting spiritual memoir, our guest Charles Marsh tells the story of his struggle to find peace and the dramatic, inspiring transformation that redefined his life and his faith.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this riveting spiritual memoir, our guest Charles Marsh tells the story of his struggle to find peace and the dramatic, inspiring transformation that redefined his life and his faith.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3841</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2239 - Dearest Sister Wendy: Robert Ellsberg</title>
      <description>Our guest, Robert Ellsberg, publisher of Orbis Books, joins us to discuss his friendship with Sister Wendy Beckett -- a friendship based on several hundred letters, exchanged on an almost daily basis, during the last three years of Sister Wendy's life. Initially they dealt with lives of saints, the meaning of holiness, and the spiritual life, but they soon expanded into a deep and intimate exchange that encompassed our whole lives, the subject of love, suffering, joy, and the presence of grace in everyday life.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2022 01:57:52 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Dearest Sister Wendy: Robert Ellsberg</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>39</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/49ffecf4-483e-11ed-b217-2f3aa0206a90/image/729ce3.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Robert Ellsberg, publisher of Orbis Books, joins us to discuss his friendship with Sister Wendy Beckett -- a friendship based on several hundred letters, exchanged on an almost daily basis, during the last three years of Sister Wendy's life. Initially they dealt with lives of saints, the meaning of holiness, and the spiritual life, but they soon expanded into a deep and intimate exchange that encompassed our whole lives, the subject of love, suffering, joy, and the presence of grace in everyday life.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Robert Ellsberg, publisher of Orbis Books, joins us to discuss his friendship with Sister Wendy Beckett -- a friendship based on several hundred letters, exchanged on an almost daily basis, during the last three years of Sister Wendy's life. Initially they dealt with lives of saints, the meaning of holiness, and the spiritual life, but they soon expanded into a deep and intimate exchange that encompassed our whole lives, the subject of love, suffering, joy, and the presence of grace in everyday life.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Robert Ellsberg, publisher of Orbis Books, joins us to discuss his friendship with Sister Wendy Beckett -- a friendship based on several hundred letters, exchanged on an almost daily basis, during the last three years of Sister Wendy's life. Initially they dealt with lives of saints, the meaning of holiness, and the spiritual life, but they soon expanded into a deep and intimate exchange that encompassed our whole lives, the subject of love, suffering, joy, and the presence of grace in everyday life.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3586</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2238 - Repairing What Race Broke in the World: Lisa Sharon Harper</title>
      <description>Our guest Lisa Sharon Harper takes us on a four-century journey through the history of her family, showing us how it entwines with the broken history of race in America. 
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      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2022 20:13:17 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Repairing What Race Broke in the World: Lisa Sharon Harper</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>38</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/acf44d60-4031-11ed-b3a1-0300efa7c482/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Lisa Sharon Harper takes us on a four-century journey through the history of her family, showing us how it entwines with the broken history of race in America. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Lisa Sharon Harper takes us on a four-century journey through the history of her family, showing us how it entwines with the broken history of race in America. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Lisa Sharon Harper takes us on a four-century journey through the history of her family, showing us how it entwines with the broken history of race in America. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3733</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2237 - Ethics for a Digital Age: Kate Ott</title>
      <description>Our guest Kate Ott discusses her recent book, Sex, Tech, &amp; Faith, inviting readers into a realistic conversation about ethics in the 21st century
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      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Sep 2022 19:03:53 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Ethics for a Digital Age: Kate Ott</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7158294c-4028-11ed-990b-8f119d32b832/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Kate Ott discusses her recent book, Sex, Tech, &amp; Faith, inviting readers into a realistic conversation about ethics in the 21st century</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Kate Ott discusses her recent book, Sex, Tech, &amp; Faith, inviting readers into a realistic conversation about ethics in the 21st century
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Kate Ott discusses her recent book, <em>Sex, Tech, &amp; Faith</em>, inviting readers into a realistic conversation about ethics in the 21st century</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3736</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2236 - A Mirror for Evangelicals: Anthea Butler [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>In her 2021 book, White Evangelical Racism: The Politics of Morality in America, our guest Dr. Anthea Butler traces the long history of connections between American Evangelicalism and anti-Black racism
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      <pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2022 18:54:21 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Mirror for Evangelicals: Anthea Butler [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/e5585d46-32ca-11ed-8464-830419edd69e/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In her 2021 book, White Evangelical Racism: The Politics of Morality in America, our guest Dr. Anthea Butler traces the long history of connections between American Evangelicalism and anti-Black racism</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In her 2021 book, White Evangelical Racism: The Politics of Morality in America, our guest Dr. Anthea Butler traces the long history of connections between American Evangelicalism and anti-Black racism
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In her 2021 book, White Evangelical Racism: The Politics of Morality in America, our guest Dr. Anthea Butler traces the long history of connections between American Evangelicalism and anti-Black racism</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3566</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2235 - A Landscape Loud with Lament and Loss: Kelley Nikondeha</title>
      <description>Our guest Kelley Nikondeha invites us to re-read the stories of the Old and New Testament through the lens of the so-called "Fifth Gospel": the lands of Israel and Palestine. Nikondeha encourages us to consider the imperial politics behind the Gospel narratives, both when they were first written, and now.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2022 21:19:18 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Landscape Loud with Lament and Loss: Kelly Nikondeha</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/59aac80c-2716-11ed-99a9-d3e05fb93e32/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Kelley Nikondeha invites us to re-read the stories of the Old and New Testament through the lens of the so-called "Fifth Gospel": the lands of Israel and Palestine. Nikondeha encourages us to consider the imperial politics behind the Gospel narratives, both when they were first written, and now.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Kelley Nikondeha invites us to re-read the stories of the Old and New Testament through the lens of the so-called "Fifth Gospel": the lands of Israel and Palestine. Nikondeha encourages us to consider the imperial politics behind the Gospel narratives, both when they were first written, and now.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Kelley Nikondeha invites us to re-read the stories of the Old and New Testament through the lens of the so-called "Fifth Gospel": the lands of Israel and Palestine. Nikondeha encourages us to consider the imperial politics behind the Gospel narratives, both when they were first written, and now.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3667</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2234 - A Chaplain is a Witness: Rick Lee James</title>
      <description>Acclaimed singer-songwriter Rick Lee James returns to our show to talk about his recent journey into hospital chaplaincy, and his recent single, "As I Walk These Halls," inspired by that work
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      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2022 17:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Chaplain is a Witness: Rick Lee James</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/8622c782-2238-11ed-9476-5f6a7da987b6/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Acclaimed singer-songwriter Rick Lee James returns to our show to talk about his recent journey into hospital chaplaincy, and his recent single, "As I Walk These Halls," inspired by that work</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Acclaimed singer-songwriter Rick Lee James returns to our show to talk about his recent journey into hospital chaplaincy, and his recent single, "As I Walk These Halls," inspired by that work
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Acclaimed singer-songwriter Rick Lee James returns to our show to talk about his recent journey into hospital chaplaincy, and his recent single, "As I Walk These Halls," inspired by that work</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3644</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[8622c782-2238-11ed-9476-5f6a7da987b6]]></guid>
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      <title>#2233 - By and For Black Women: Ekimini Uwan and Truth's Table</title>
      <description>Ekimini Uwan joins us to talk about the Truth's Table podcast, which she co-hosts, as well as the new book Truth's Table: Black Women's Musings on Life, Love, and Liberation
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      <pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2022 18:11:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>By and For Black Women: Ekimini Uwan and Truth's Table</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/3360a990-1f1f-11ed-8d11-af5eba7d2518/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Ekimini Uwan joins us to talk about the Truth's Table podcast, which she co-hosts, as well as the new book Truth's Table: Black Women's Musings on Life, Love, and Liberation</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Ekimini Uwan joins us to talk about the Truth's Table podcast, which she co-hosts, as well as the new book Truth's Table: Black Women's Musings on Life, Love, and Liberation
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Ekimini Uwan joins us to talk about the Truth's Table podcast, which she co-hosts, as well as the new book Truth's Table: Black Women's Musings on Life, Love, and Liberation</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3514</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[3360a990-1f1f-11ed-8d11-af5eba7d2518]]></guid>
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      <title>#2232 - A Grown-up Relationship with a Grown-up God: Jacqui Lewis [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Rev. Jacqui Lewis takes her readers on a journey in her recent book Fierce Love - across the country, across decades, and from trauma to healing to flourishing.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2022 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Grown-up Relationship with a Grown-up God: Jacqui Lewis [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/28728048-1453-11ed-a0b1-5f9d4523e0fb/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Rev. Jacqui Lewis takes her readers on a journey in her recent book Fierce Love - across the country, across decades, and from trauma to healing to flourishing.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Rev. Jacqui Lewis takes her readers on a journey in her recent book Fierce Love - across the country, across decades, and from trauma to healing to flourishing.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Rev. Jacqui Lewis takes her readers on a journey in her recent book <em>Fierce Love</em> - across the country, across decades, and from trauma to healing to flourishing.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3623</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2231 - Lockdown Conversations on Death and Life: Jack Miles and Mark C. Taylor</title>
      <description>At the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, locked down at home and facing an uncertain future, scholars Jack Miles and Mark C. Taylor embarked on an extended conversation about living and dying in an imperiled world. The result is their recent book, A Friendship in Twilight.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2022 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Lockdown Conversations on Death and Life: Jack Miles and Mark C. Taylor</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/19657926-102e-11ed-951d-b32fcb2dee7d/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>At the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, locked down at home and facing an uncertain future, scholars Jack Miles and Mark C. Taylor embarked on an extended conversation about living and dying in an imperiled world. The result is A Friendship in Twilight.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>At the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, locked down at home and facing an uncertain future, scholars Jack Miles and Mark C. Taylor embarked on an extended conversation about living and dying in an imperiled world. The result is their recent book, A Friendship in Twilight.
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        <![CDATA[<p>At the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, locked down at home and facing an uncertain future, scholars Jack Miles and Mark C. Taylor embarked on an extended conversation about living and dying in an imperiled world. The result is their recent book, <em>A Friendship in Twilight.</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3619</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2230 - Our Journey is Holy, Too: Shannon T. L. Kearns</title>
      <description>Father Shannon Kearns talks to us about his powerful recent book, In The margins: A Transgender Man's Journey with Scripture
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      <pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2022 20:55:25 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Our Journey is Holy, Too: Shannon T. L. Kearns</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/c1a5ff3e-0c5a-11ed-b108-c3445b223b68/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Father Shannon Kearns talks to us about his powerful recent book, In The margins: A Transgender Man's Journey with Scripture</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Father Shannon Kearns talks to us about his powerful recent book, In The margins: A Transgender Man's Journey with Scripture
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Father Shannon Kearns talks to us about his powerful recent book, In The margins: A Transgender Man's Journey with Scripture</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3893</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2229 - The Disordered Cosmos: Chanda Prescod-Weinstein [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Our guest Dr. Chanda Prescod-Weinstein is a physicist and astronomer who explores the interactions at stellar and subatomic levels. We discuss her fascinating new book about her work, The Disordered Cosmos
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      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2022 16:37:46 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Disordered Cosmos: Chanda Prescod-Weinstein [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/a2035e50-077e-11ed-a2a3-e391c10fbf46/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Dr. Chanda Prescod-Weinstein is a physicist and astronomer who explores the interactions at stellar and subatomic levels. We discuss her fascinating new book about her work, The Disordered Cosmos</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Dr. Chanda Prescod-Weinstein is a physicist and astronomer who explores the interactions at stellar and subatomic levels. We discuss her fascinating new book about her work, The Disordered Cosmos
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Dr. Chanda Prescod-Weinstein is a physicist and astronomer who explores the interactions at stellar and subatomic levels. We discuss her fascinating new book about her work, The Disordered Cosmos</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3690</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2228 - When Time Is Short: Timothy Beal</title>
      <description>Professor Timothy Beal returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his recent book, When Time Is Short, which deals with human-made climate catastrophe and the idea of 'palliative hope'
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      <pubDate>Sun, 10 Jul 2022 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>When Time Is Short: Timothy Beal</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7b7d8704-0131-11ed-98aa-1f9715ad897b/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Professor Timothy Beal returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his recent book, When Time Is Short, which deals with human-made climate catastrophe and the idea of 'palliative hope'</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Professor Timothy Beal returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his recent book, When Time Is Short, which deals with human-made climate catastrophe and the idea of 'palliative hope'
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Professor Timothy Beal returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his recent book, When Time Is Short, which deals with human-made climate catastrophe and the idea of 'palliative hope'</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3867</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2227 - Open-Source Synodality with Pope Francis: Peter Jones</title>
      <description>Dean Peter Jones of Loyola University Chicago's Institute of Pastoral Studies returns to the show to speak with us more about the international event, Building Bridges North and South, and about a recent official meeting he and his fellow organizers had with Pope Francis at the Vatican
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      <pubDate>Sun, 03 Jul 2022 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Open-Source Synodality with Pope Francis: Peter Jones</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/1dfbb4fe-fbdf-11ec-9a6a-f35fa4875455/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Dean Peter Jones of Loyola University Chicago's Institute of Pastoral Studies returns to the show to speak with us more about the international event, Building Bridges North and South, and about a recent official meeting he and his fellow organizers had with Pope Francis at the Vatican</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Dean Peter Jones of Loyola University Chicago's Institute of Pastoral Studies returns to the show to speak with us more about the international event, Building Bridges North and South, and about a recent official meeting he and his fellow organizers had with Pope Francis at the Vatican
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Dean Peter Jones of Loyola University Chicago's Institute of Pastoral Studies returns to the show to speak with us more about the international event, Building Bridges North and South, and about a recent official meeting he and his fellow organizers had with Pope Francis at the Vatican</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3810</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2226 - Co-Flourishing in the Kin-dom of the Disabled God: Amy Kenny</title>
      <description>Dr. Amy Kenny joins us to talk about her powerful new book, My Body Is Not a Prayer Request: Disability Justice in the Church. She argues that until those with disabilities can fully flourish in our communities, the church can never be fully the Body of Christ.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jun 2022 04:09:10 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Co-Flourishing in the Kin-dom of the Disabled God: Amy Kenny</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/07da6024-f5ce-11ec-a097-371f9156ea34/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Dr. Amy Kenny joins us to talk about her powerful new book, My Body Is Not a Prayer Request: Disability Justice in the Church. She argues that until those with disabilities can fully flourish in our communities, the church can never be fully the Body of Christ.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Dr. Amy Kenny joins us to talk about her powerful new book, My Body Is Not a Prayer Request: Disability Justice in the Church. She argues that until those with disabilities can fully flourish in our communities, the church can never be fully the Body of Christ.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Dr. Amy Kenny joins us to talk about her powerful new book, My Body Is Not a Prayer Request: Disability Justice in the Church. She argues that until those with disabilities can fully flourish in our communities, the church can never be fully the Body of Christ.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3784</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2225 - Drawing Lines of Inclusion, Not Exclusion: David Hayward</title>
      <description>Artist and cartoonist David Hayward has been using his simple line drawings to convey messages of love and inclusion to those who have felt left out by the Christian faith. We talk about a new collection of his cartoons, called Flip It Like This.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2022 18:29:01 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Drawing Lines of Inclusion, Not Exclusion: David Hayward</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2ad534d0-f0c6-11ec-ac23-e39c6c9b5e74/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Artist and cartoonist David Hayward has been using his simple line drawings to convey messages of love and inclusion to those who have felt left out by the Christian faith. We talk about a new collection of his cartoons, called Flip It Like This.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Artist and cartoonist David Hayward has been using his simple line drawings to convey messages of love and inclusion to those who have felt left out by the Christian faith. We talk about a new collection of his cartoons, called Flip It Like This.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Artist and cartoonist David Hayward has been using his simple line drawings to convey messages of love and inclusion to those who have felt left out by the Christian faith. We talk about a new collection of his cartoons, called Flip It Like This.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3460</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2224 - Spiritual Formation in Local Faith Communities: Neil Pembroke and William S. Schmidt</title>
      <description>Our guests, Neil Pembroke and William S. Schmidt, talk about their recent book that puts tools in the hands of pastors and other faith leaders to help create opportunities for spiritual formation in local faith communities.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jun 2022 02:15:45 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Spiritual Formation in Local Faith Communities: Neil Pembroke and William S. Schmidt</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/cea59710-ea9c-11ec-932f-4775230ec955/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guests, Neil Pembroke and William S. Schmidt, talk about their recent book that puts tools in the hands of pastors and other faith leaders to help create opportunities for spiritual formation in local faith communities.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guests, Neil Pembroke and William S. Schmidt, talk about their recent book that puts tools in the hands of pastors and other faith leaders to help create opportunities for spiritual formation in local faith communities.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guests, Neil Pembroke and William S. Schmidt, talk about their recent book that puts tools in the hands of pastors and other faith leaders to help create opportunities for spiritual formation in local faith communities.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3481</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2223 - Render Unto Caesar: John Dominic Crossan</title>
      <description>The internationally acclaimed New Testament scholar and best-selling author John Dominic Crossan returns to Things Not Seen to discuss his powerful new book, Render Unto Caesar: The Struggle for Christ and Culture in the New Testament
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      <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2022 17:47:47 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Render Unto Caesar: John Dominic Crossan</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/05935f28-e5c0-11ec-a1c8-479421e575e4/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>The internationally acclaimed New Testament scholar and best-selling author John Dominic Crossan returns to Things Not Seen to discuss his powerful new book, Render Unto Caesar: The Struggle for Christ and Culture in the New Testament</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The internationally acclaimed New Testament scholar and best-selling author John Dominic Crossan returns to Things Not Seen to discuss his powerful new book, Render Unto Caesar: The Struggle for Christ and Culture in the New Testament
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>The internationally acclaimed New Testament scholar and best-selling author John Dominic Crossan returns to Things Not Seen to discuss his powerful new book, Render Unto Caesar: The Struggle for Christ and Culture in the New Testament</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3959</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2222 - Beyond Thoughts and Prayers: Taylor S. Schumann [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>In the spring of 2013 our guest Taylor Schumann survived a horrific shooting event that left her traumatized in soul and body. She talks to us about her recent book, When Thoughts and Prayers Aren't Enough, and how people of faith must confront the stark realities of gun violence
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2022 20:59:37 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Beyond Thoughts and Prayers: Taylor S. Schumann [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/58b5e694-e511-11ec-9b7e-fba0b97a7c1d/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In the spring of 2013 our guest Taylor Schumann survived a horrific shooting event that left her traumatized in soul and body. She talks to us about her recent book, When Thoughts and Prayers Aren't Enough, and how people of faith must confront the stark realities of gun violence</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In the spring of 2013 our guest Taylor Schumann survived a horrific shooting event that left her traumatized in soul and body. She talks to us about her recent book, When Thoughts and Prayers Aren't Enough, and how people of faith must confront the stark realities of gun violence
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In the spring of 2013 our guest Taylor Schumann survived a horrific shooting event that left her traumatized in soul and body. She talks to us about her recent book, When Thoughts and Prayers Aren't Enough, and how people of faith must confront the stark realities of gun violence</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3551</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2221 - Carved and Created in Our Own Ways: Candice Marie Benbow</title>
      <description>In her recent book, Red Lip Theology, our guest Candice Marie Benbow offers a set of essays rooted in the experience of Black womanhood, and an invitation for readers to rethink the comfortable theological categories they may have inherited.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2022 19:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Carved and Created in Our Own Ways: Candice Marie Benbow</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/696df0ba-dabe-11ec-82f9-e746ffc85399/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In her recent book, Red Lip Theology, our guest Candice Marie Benbow offers a set of essays rooted in the experience of Black womanhood, and an invitation for readers to rethink the comfortable theological categories they may have inherited.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In her recent book, Red Lip Theology, our guest Candice Marie Benbow offers a set of essays rooted in the experience of Black womanhood, and an invitation for readers to rethink the comfortable theological categories they may have inherited.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In her recent book, Red Lip Theology, our guest Candice Marie Benbow offers a set of essays rooted in the experience of Black womanhood, and an invitation for readers to rethink the comfortable theological categories they may have inherited.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3441</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2220 - Jesus in His Own Words: Fr. Bill Cain, SJ [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Bill Cain is a Jesuit who has spent his life writing screenplays for movies and television. Now, in his recent book, The Diary of Jesus Christ, he reimagines the stories of the Gospels from the point of view of Jesus himself, with breathtaking results
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      <pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2022 16:59:01 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Jesus in His Own Words: Fr. Bill Cain, SJ [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Bill Cain is a Jesuit who has spent his life writing screenplays for movies and television. Now, in his recent book, The Diary of Jesus Christ, he reimagines the stories of the Gospels from the point of view of Jesus himself, with breathtaking results</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Bill Cain is a Jesuit who has spent his life writing screenplays for movies and television. Now, in his recent book, The Diary of Jesus Christ, he reimagines the stories of the Gospels from the point of view of Jesus himself, with breathtaking results
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Bill Cain is a Jesuit who has spent his life writing screenplays for movies and television. Now, in his recent book, The Diary of Jesus Christ, he reimagines the stories of the Gospels from the point of view of Jesus himself, with breathtaking results</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3959</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2219 - Flying, Falling, Catching: Carolyn Whitney-Brown and Henri Nouwen</title>
      <description>One of the last projects of the late spiritual writer Henri Nouwen was an unexpected and enthusiastic appreciation of a family of trapeze artists. Our guest, Carolyn Whitney-Brown, talks about her work to bring this unfinished manuscript to publication, and what it tells us about Nouwen as a believer and as a person
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      <pubDate>Mon, 23 May 2022 16:36:59 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Flying, Falling, Catching: Carolyn Whitney-Brown and Henri Nouwen</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/adb357c4-dab4-11ec-8558-bb7e8785bb67/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>One of the last projects of the late spiritual writer Henri Nouwen was an unexpected and enthusiastic appreciation of a family of trapeze artists. Our guest, Carolyn Whitney-Brown, talks about her work to bring this unfinished manuscript to publication, and what it tells us about Nouwen as a believer and as a person</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>One of the last projects of the late spiritual writer Henri Nouwen was an unexpected and enthusiastic appreciation of a family of trapeze artists. Our guest, Carolyn Whitney-Brown, talks about her work to bring this unfinished manuscript to publication, and what it tells us about Nouwen as a believer and as a person
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>One of the last projects of the late spiritual writer Henri Nouwen was an unexpected and enthusiastic appreciation of a family of trapeze artists. Our guest, Carolyn Whitney-Brown, talks about her work to bring this unfinished manuscript to publication, and what it tells us about Nouwen as a believer and as a person</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3773</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2218 - All the White Friends I Couldn't Keep: Andre Henry</title>
      <description>Our guest Andre Henry talks about his journey into "artivism" - a mixture of activism and artistry aimed at revolutionary change and decolonization. We talk about his recent book All the White Friends I Couldn't Keep, and his invitation to work on behalf of the safety and joy of Black lives.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2022 01:57:46 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>All the White Friends I Couldn't Keep: Andre Henry</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/f09d75e8-ca82-11ec-a07c-9fe68f09e52a/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Andre Henry talks about his journey into "artivism" - a mixture of activism and artistry aimed at revolutionary change and decolonization. We talk about his recent book All the White Friends I Couldn't Keep, and his invitation to work on behalf of the safety and joy of Black lives</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Andre Henry talks about his journey into "artivism" - a mixture of activism and artistry aimed at revolutionary change and decolonization. We talk about his recent book All the White Friends I Couldn't Keep, and his invitation to work on behalf of the safety and joy of Black lives.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Andre Henry talks about his journey into "artivism" - a mixture of activism and artistry aimed at revolutionary change and decolonization. We talk about his recent book All the White Friends I Couldn't Keep, and his invitation to work on behalf of the safety and joy of Black lives.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3730</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2217 - Ensure the Pages Are Worthy: Cole Arthur Riley</title>
      <description>Our guest, Cole Arthur Riley, talks to us about her brilliant recent book, This Here Flesh, which weaves together four generations of lived experience into a book that is both a theological meditation and a memoir of loss and liberation.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2022 20:50:42 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Ensure the Pages Are Worthy: Cole Arthur Riley</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/9ce69450-c40d-11ec-856c-9bd4abdc2531/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Cole Arthur Riley, talks to us about her brilliant recent book, This Here Flesh, which weaves together four generations of lived experience into a book that is both a theological meditation and a memoir of loss and liberation.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Cole Arthur Riley, talks to us about her brilliant recent book, This Here Flesh, which weaves together four generations of lived experience into a book that is both a theological meditation and a memoir of loss and liberation.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Cole Arthur Riley, talks to us about her brilliant recent book, <em>This Here Flesh</em>, which weaves together four generations of lived experience into a book that is both a theological meditation and a memoir of loss and liberation.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3576</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2216 - The Deep Wisdom of the Body: Robyn Henderson-Espinoza</title>
      <description>Our guest, Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza, draws from their own experience of learning to live in their own body, and offers readers a transformative theology of becoming. Their recent book, Body Becoming, is an invitation to understanding, engagement, and human thriving.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2022 17:12:07 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Deep Wisdom of the Body: Robyn Henderson-Espinoza</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/e182fdc4-be68-11ec-98e7-13d13b6bc1f3/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza, draws from their own experience of learning to live in their own body, and offers readers a transformative theology of becoming. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza, draws from their own experience of learning to live in their own body, and offers readers a transformative theology of becoming. Their recent book, Body Becoming, is an invitation to understanding, engagement, and human thriving.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza, draws from their own experience of learning to live in their own body, and offers readers a transformative theology of becoming. Their recent book, <em>Body Becoming</em>, is an invitation to understanding, engagement, and human thriving.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3556</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[e182fdc4-be68-11ec-98e7-13d13b6bc1f3]]></guid>
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      <title>#2215 - Building Bridges with Pope Francis: Peter Jones and Aleja Sastoque Luna</title>
      <description>In February 2022, Pope Francis held an unprecedented dialogue with university students from across North, South, and Central America. Our guests, Aleja Sastoque Luna and Dean Peter Jones of Loyola University Chicago, take us behind the scenes to understand what it was like to plan and participate in this event.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 10 Apr 2022 19:21:53 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Building Bridges with Pope Francis: Peter Jones and Aleja Sastoque Luna</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6a912166-b902-11ec-a4f8-dfac51598381/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In February 2022, Pope Francis held an unprecedented dialogue with university students from across North, South, and Central America. Our guests, Aleja Sastoque Luna and Dean Peter Jones of Loyola University Chicago, take us behind the scenes to understand what it was like to plan and participate in this event.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In February 2022, Pope Francis held an unprecedented dialogue with university students from across North, South, and Central America. Our guests, Aleja Sastoque Luna and Dean Peter Jones of Loyola University Chicago, take us behind the scenes to understand what it was like to plan and participate in this event.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In February 2022, Pope Francis held an unprecedented dialogue with university students from across North, South, and Central America. Our guests, Aleja Sastoque Luna and Dean Peter Jones of Loyola University Chicago, take us behind the scenes to understand what it was like to plan and participate in this event.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3842</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2214 - God Is a Black Woman: Christina Cleveland</title>
      <description>Our guest Dr. Christina Cleveland talks about her theological and personal journey to re-think her images of God's divinity, particularly the "whitemalegod," to discover a God that could honestly relate to the experience of Black women 
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      <pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2022 22:20:31 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>God Is a Black Woman: Christina Cleveland</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/67865584-b39b-11ec-864e-8f7d44a93f46/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Dr. Christina Cleveland talks about her theological and personal journey to re-think her images of God's divinity, particularly the "whitemalegod," to discover a God that could honestly relate to the experience of Black women </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Dr. Christina Cleveland talks about her theological and personal journey to re-think her images of God's divinity, particularly the "whitemalegod," to discover a God that could honestly relate to the experience of Black women 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Dr. Christina Cleveland talks about her theological and personal journey to re-think her images of God's divinity, particularly the "whitemalegod," to discover a God that could honestly relate to the experience of Black women </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3815</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2213 - Little Hours: Lil Copan</title>
      <description>Our guest Lil Copan talks about the creative process behind her wonderful debut novel, Little Hours
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      <pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2022 16:32:49 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Little Hours: Lil Copan</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/479ec7ea-ade9-11ec-b5c1-7735c77428b6/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Lil Copan talks about the creative process behind her wonderful debut novel, Little Hours</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Lil Copan talks about the creative process behind her wonderful debut novel, Little Hours
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Lil Copan talks about the creative process behind her wonderful debut novel, Little Hours</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3621</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[479ec7ea-ade9-11ec-b5c1-7735c77428b6]]></guid>
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      <title>#2212 - A White Catholic's Guide to Racism and Privilege: Fr. Daniel P. Horan</title>
      <description>Our guest, Franciscan Friar and priest, Fr. Daniel Horan, talks to us about ways to address the continued effects of white privilege and racism that exist in the Catholic Church
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      <pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2022 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A White Catholic's Guide to Racism and Privilege: Fr. Daniel P. Horan</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/706c00ce-a859-11ec-9819-6fd93123f31f/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Franciscan Friar and priest, Fr. Daniel Horan, talks to us about ways to address the continued effects of white privilege and racism that exist in the Catholic Church</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Franciscan Friar and priest, Fr. Daniel Horan, talks to us about ways to address the continued effects of white privilege and racism that exist in the Catholic Church
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Franciscan Friar and priest, Fr. Daniel Horan, talks to us about ways to address the continued effects of white privilege and racism that exist in the Catholic Church</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3891</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2211 - Survival is Just the Beginning: Kelly J. Baker</title>
      <description>We welcome back Dr. Kelly J. Baker to talk about her amazing and powerful book Final Girl: And Other Essays on Grief, Trauma, and Mental Illness
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      <pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2022 18:45:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Survival is Just the Beginning: Kelly J. Baker</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/8051cc70-a2fb-11ec-b8dc-9b03d821ebd6/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We welcome back Dr. Kelly J. Baker to talk about her amazing and powerful book Final Girl: And Other Essays on Grief, Trauma, and Mental Illness</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We welcome back Dr. Kelly J. Baker to talk about her amazing and powerful book Final Girl: And Other Essays on Grief, Trauma, and Mental Illness
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We welcome back Dr. Kelly J. Baker to talk about her amazing and powerful book <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/82521/9781947834514"><em>Final Girl: And Other Essays on Grief, Trauma, and Mental Illness</em></a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3618</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM9493695327.mp3?updated=1647197369" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2210 - My Apologetic is Empathy: John Pavlovitz</title>
      <description>In his recent book, If God is Love, Don't Be a Jerk, our guest John Pavlovitz invites us to find a faith that makes us better neighbors and better humans
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      <pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2022 17:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>My Apologetic is Empathy: John Pavlovitz</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6978eeba-9d6b-11ec-82bb-e325a84b6f2c/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In his recent book, If God is Love, Don't Be a Jerk, our guest John Pavlovitz invites us to find a faith that makes us better neighbors and better humans</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In his recent book, If God is Love, Don't Be a Jerk, our guest John Pavlovitz invites us to find a faith that makes us better neighbors and better humans
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In his recent book, <em>If God is Love, Don't Be a Jerk,</em> our guest John Pavlovitz invites us to find a faith that makes us better neighbors and better humans</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3616</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2209 - The Continuing Importance of Secularism: Jacques Berlinerblau</title>
      <description>Our guest, Professor Jacques Berlinerblau, returns to the show to talk about his recent book, Secularism: The Basics
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      <pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2022 02:15:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Continuing Importance of Secularism: Jacques Berlinerblau</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7f25a7ca-983a-11ec-8d7f-9b93fca78116/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Professor Jacques Berlinerblau, returns to the show to talk about his recent book, Secularism: The Basics</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Professor Jacques Berlinerblau, returns to the show to talk about his recent book, Secularism: The Basics
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Professor Jacques Berlinerblau, returns to the show to talk about his recent book, Secularism: The Basics</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3719</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2208 - A Theology of Life with Depression: Jessica Coblentz</title>
      <description>Our guest Jessica Coblentz calls readers and scholars alike to re-imagine our theological accounts of depression and recovery in her recent book, Dust in the Blood: A Theology of Life with Depression
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      <pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2022 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Theology of Life with Depression: Jessica Coblentz</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/c4d02f9c-920a-11ec-9a1d-3f0133f25ba9/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Jessica Coblentz calls readers and scholars alike to re-imagine our theological accounts of depression and recovery in her recent book, Dust in the Blood: A Theology of Life with Depression</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Jessica Coblentz calls readers and scholars alike to re-imagine our theological accounts of depression and recovery in her recent book, Dust in the Blood: A Theology of Life with Depression
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Jessica Coblentz calls readers and scholars alike to re-imagine our theological accounts of depression and recovery in her recent book, Dust in the Blood: A Theology of Life with Depression</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3446</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2207 - Five Prophetic Voices: Martin Doblmeier</title>
      <description>For more than three decades, our guest Martin Doblmeier has produced award-winning documentaries about faith and culture. We are delighted to welcome him back to the show to talk about 5 of those films, collected now as the "Prophetic Voices" series
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      <pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2022 23:07:02 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Five Prophetic Voices: Martin Doblmeier</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/147e7c82-8d20-11ec-8617-3347d409bb36/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>For more than three decades, our guest Martin Doblmeier has produced award-winning documentaries about faith and culture. We are delighted to welcome him back to the show to talk about 5 of those films, collected now as the "Prophetic Voices" series</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>For more than three decades, our guest Martin Doblmeier has produced award-winning documentaries about faith and culture. We are delighted to welcome him back to the show to talk about 5 of those films, collected now as the "Prophetic Voices" series
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>For more than three decades, our guest Martin Doblmeier has produced award-winning documentaries about faith and culture. We are delighted to welcome him back to the show to talk about 5 of those films, collected now as the "Prophetic Voices" series</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3675</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[147e7c82-8d20-11ec-8617-3347d409bb36]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM3836857168.mp3?updated=1644793621" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2206 - Telling the Untold Stories: Michael J. O'Loughlin</title>
      <description>We welcome Michael O'Loughlin back to the show to talk about his recent book, Hidden Mercy: AIDS, Catholics, and the Untold Stories of Compassion in the Face of Fear
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      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Feb 2022 17:37:54 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Telling the Untold Stories: Michael J. O'Loughlin</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/0cf5af3c-883c-11ec-bbad-93eecf4b5df6/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We welcome Michael O'Loughlin back to the show to talk about his recent book, Hidden Mercy: AIDS, Catholics, and the Untold Stories of Compassion in the Face of Fear</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We welcome Michael O'Loughlin back to the show to talk about his recent book, Hidden Mercy: AIDS, Catholics, and the Untold Stories of Compassion in the Face of Fear
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We welcome Michael O'Loughlin back to the show to talk about his recent book, <em>Hidden Mercy: AIDS, Catholics, and the Untold Stories of Compassion in the Face of Fear</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3716</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[0cf5af3c-883c-11ec-bbad-93eecf4b5df6]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM5003117496.mp3?updated=1644255755" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2205 - Remembering the Holy Victims: Travis E. Ables</title>
      <description>In his new book, The Body of the Cross, our guest Dr. Travis E. Ables invites Christians to reconsider the atonement, and goes back to the early days of the church to learn new ways to think about how God is reconciled to the world
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      <pubDate>Mon, 31 Jan 2022 04:14:15 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Remembering the Holy Victims: Travis E. Ables</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/d17bd910-8249-11ec-a1c8-736c96659ca0/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In his new book, The Body of the Cross, our guest Dr. Travis E. Ables invites Christians to reconsider the atonement, and goes back to the early days of the church to learn new ways to think about how God is reconciled to the world</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In his new book, The Body of the Cross, our guest Dr. Travis E. Ables invites Christians to reconsider the atonement, and goes back to the early days of the church to learn new ways to think about how God is reconciled to the world
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In his new book, The Body of the Cross, our guest Dr. Travis E. Ables invites Christians to reconsider the atonement, and goes back to the early days of the church to learn new ways to think about how God is reconciled to the world</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3830</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2204 - Talking About Weird Religion: Leah Payne and Brian Doak [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We revisit a conversation with Leah Payne and Brian Doak, who are both professors, authors, and pop culture aficionados. They are the creators and co-hosts of the amazing podcast Weird Religion. Their new season starts this month.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Jan 2022 19:14:39 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Talking About Weird Religion: Leah Payne and Brian Doak [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/ad105166-7fa4-11ec-a409-bfd1e8c12edb/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit a conversation with Leah Payne and Brian Doak, who are both professors, authors, and pop culture aficionados. They are the creators and co-hosts of the amazing podcast Weird Religion. Their new season starts this month.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit a conversation with Leah Payne and Brian Doak, who are both professors, authors, and pop culture aficionados. They are the creators and co-hosts of the amazing podcast Weird Religion. Their new season starts this month.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit a conversation with Leah Payne and Brian Doak, who are both professors, authors, and pop culture aficionados. They are the creators and co-hosts of the amazing podcast Weird Religion. Their new season starts this month.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3725</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[ad105166-7fa4-11ec-a409-bfd1e8c12edb]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM2339906093.mp3?updated=1643311186" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2203 - To Put You in Your Freedom: John Fontana</title>
      <description>We welcome back John J. Fontana, co-director of the Ignatian Legacy Fellows Program. For the past 25 months, the first cohort of scholars have gone around the globe, learning how to be in service to others. He tells us about their journey.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2022 01:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>To Put You in Your Freedom: John Fontana</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6213beba-7733-11ec-8230-e356e0b9335d/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We welcome back John J. Fontana, co-director of the Ignatian Legacy Fellows Program. For the past 25 months, the first cohort of scholars have gone around the globe, learning how to be in service to others. He tells us about their journey.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We welcome back John J. Fontana, co-director of the Ignatian Legacy Fellows Program. For the past 25 months, the first cohort of scholars have gone around the globe, learning how to be in service to others. He tells us about their journey.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We welcome back John J. Fontana, co-director of the Ignatian Legacy Fellows Program. For the past 25 months, the first cohort of scholars have gone around the globe, learning how to be in service to others. He tells us about their journey.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3356</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[6213beba-7733-11ec-8230-e356e0b9335d]]></guid>
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      <title>#2202 - Women Remaking the World: Kaya Oakes</title>
      <description>Our guest Kaya Oakes talks about her recent book The Defiant Middle, which draws on the wisdom of women mystics and explores how transitional eras or living in marginalized female identities can be both spiritually challenging and wonderfully freeing, ultimately resulting in a reinvented way of seeing the world and changing it.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2022 05:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Women Remaking the World: Kaya Oakes</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/b00865bc-71d4-11ec-bf61-d3d7d1df4ec1/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Kaya Oakes talks about her recent book The Defiant Middle, which draws on the wisdom of women mystics and explores how transitional eras or living in marginalized female identities can be both spiritually challenging and wonderfully freeing, ultimately resulting in a reinvented way of seeing the world and changing it.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Kaya Oakes talks about her recent book The Defiant Middle, which draws on the wisdom of women mystics and explores how transitional eras or living in marginalized female identities can be both spiritually challenging and wonderfully freeing, ultimately resulting in a reinvented way of seeing the world and changing it.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Kaya Oakes talks about her recent book The Defiant Middle, which draws on the wisdom of women mystics and explores how transitional eras or living in marginalized female identities can be both spiritually challenging and wonderfully freeing, ultimately resulting in a reinvented way of seeing the world and changing it.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3654</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[b00865bc-71d4-11ec-bf61-d3d7d1df4ec1]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM6588823952.mp3?updated=1641792450" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>2201 - The Hermits of Big Sur: Paula Huston</title>
      <description>Our guest Paula Huston tells the history of a monastery on the California coast, and the role that both Thomas Merton and World War II played in its founding
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      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2022 17:02:04 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Hermits of Big Sur: Paula Huston</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/f2f7ca96-6cae-11ec-bfe9-a358de425c89/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Paula Huston tells the history of a monastery on the California coast, and the role that both Thomas Merton and World War II played in its founding</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Paula Huston tells the history of a monastery on the California coast, and the role that both Thomas Merton and World War II played in its founding
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Paula Huston tells the history of a monastery on the California coast, and the role that both Thomas Merton and World War II played in its founding</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3768</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[f2f7ca96-6cae-11ec-bfe9-a358de425c89]]></guid>
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      <title>#2153 - Mapping the Journey of Desmond Tutu: Michael Battle [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>As we remember the life and legacy of Archbishop Tutu, we revisit this interview from earlier in the year. The Rev. Dr. Michael Battle has been a student and friend of Archbishop Desmond Tutu for a good deal of his life. In his recent book, Battle offers what he calls "A Spiritual Biography of South Africa's Confessor"
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      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2021 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Mapping the Journey of Desmond Tutu: Michael Battle [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>53</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/85deaed8-66c4-11ec-8f70-a31b47b1e1cb/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>As we remember the life and legacy of Archbishop Tutu, we revisit this interview from earlier in the year. The Rev. Dr. Michael Battle has been a student and friend of Archbishop Desmond Tutu for a good deal of his life. In his recent book, Battle offers what he calls "A Spiritual Biography of South Africa's Confessor"</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>As we remember the life and legacy of Archbishop Tutu, we revisit this interview from earlier in the year. The Rev. Dr. Michael Battle has been a student and friend of Archbishop Desmond Tutu for a good deal of his life. In his recent book, Battle offers what he calls "A Spiritual Biography of South Africa's Confessor"
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>As we remember the life and legacy of Archbishop Tutu, we revisit this interview from earlier in the year. The Rev. Dr. Michael Battle has been a student and friend of Archbishop Desmond Tutu for a good deal of his life. In his recent book, Battle offers what he calls "A Spiritual Biography of South Africa's Confessor"</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3541</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[85deaed8-66c4-11ec-8f70-a31b47b1e1cb]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM1442755945.mp3?updated=1640576892" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2152 - Re-Awakening Advent Wonder: Scott Erickson [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Scott Erickson is an artist and performer who, with his book Honest Advent, has created a wonderful set of meditations and images for reflecting on the earthiness and mystery at the heart of the Advent season
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      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Dec 2021 03:02:30 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Re-Awakening Advent Wonder: Scott Erickson [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>52</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Scott Erickson is an artist and performer who, with his new book Honest Advent, has created a wonderful set of meditations and images for reflecting on the earthiness and mystery at the heart of the Advent season</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Scott Erickson is an artist and performer who, with his book Honest Advent, has created a wonderful set of meditations and images for reflecting on the earthiness and mystery at the heart of the Advent season
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        <![CDATA[<p>Scott Erickson is an artist and performer who, with his book Honest Advent, has created a wonderful set of meditations and images for reflecting on the earthiness and mystery at the heart of the Advent season</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3713</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2151 - Toni Morrison's Spiritual Vision: Nadra Nittle</title>
      <description>Journalist Nadra Nittle has created a fascinating portrait of author Toni Morrison, exploring the elements of religion in her various writings, and showing especially how Catholicism interweaves through her work
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      <pubDate>Mon, 20 Dec 2021 03:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Toni Morrison';s Spiritual Vision: Nadra Nittle</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>51</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Journalist Nadra Nittle has created a fascinating portrait of author Toni Morrison, exploring the elements of religion in her various writings, and showing especially how Catholicism interweaves through her work</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Journalist Nadra Nittle has created a fascinating portrait of author Toni Morrison, exploring the elements of religion in her various writings, and showing especially how Catholicism interweaves through her work
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        <![CDATA[<p>Journalist Nadra Nittle has created a fascinating portrait of author Toni Morrison, exploring the elements of religion in her various writings, and showing especially how Catholicism interweaves through her work</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3699</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2150 - Saving Grace: Kirsten Powers</title>
      <description>For years, Kirsten Powers has been center stage for many of our nation's most searing political and cultural battles as a columnist and TV analyst. On a good day, there will be civil disagreement. On a bad day, it's all-out trench warfare--nothing but a cycle of outrage and self-righteousness. More and more, Powers finds herself wondering, along with countless Americans: How are we to cope with this non-stop madness?

In Saving Grace, Powers writes with wit and insight about our country's poisonous political discourse, chronicling the efforts she's made to stay grounded and preserve her sanity in a post-truth era that has driven many of us to the edge. She draws on lessons offered by faith leaders, therapists, theologians, social scientists, and activists working for change today. She dismantles the widespread misconception that grace means being nice, letting people get away with harmful behavior, or choosing neutrality in the name of peace. Grace, she argues, is anything but an act of surrender; instead, it is a kinetic and transformative force.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 12 Dec 2021 21:12:26 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Saving Grace: Kirsten Powers</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>53</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/c1cf26d4-5b8e-11ec-8611-9fa3ea621caf/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Kirsten powers, talks about our country's poisonous political discourse, chronicling the efforts she's made to stay grounded and preserve her sanity in a post-truth era that has driven many of us to the edge in her recent book, Saving Grace</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>For years, Kirsten Powers has been center stage for many of our nation's most searing political and cultural battles as a columnist and TV analyst. On a good day, there will be civil disagreement. On a bad day, it's all-out trench warfare--nothing but a cycle of outrage and self-righteousness. More and more, Powers finds herself wondering, along with countless Americans: How are we to cope with this non-stop madness?

In Saving Grace, Powers writes with wit and insight about our country's poisonous political discourse, chronicling the efforts she's made to stay grounded and preserve her sanity in a post-truth era that has driven many of us to the edge. She draws on lessons offered by faith leaders, therapists, theologians, social scientists, and activists working for change today. She dismantles the widespread misconception that grace means being nice, letting people get away with harmful behavior, or choosing neutrality in the name of peace. Grace, she argues, is anything but an act of surrender; instead, it is a kinetic and transformative force.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>For years, Kirsten Powers has been center stage for many of our nation's most searing political and cultural battles as a columnist and TV analyst. On a good day, there will be civil disagreement. On a bad day, it's all-out trench warfare--nothing but a cycle of outrage and self-righteousness. More and more, Powers finds herself wondering, along with countless Americans: How are we to cope with this non-stop madness?</p><p><br></p><p>In <em>Saving Grace,</em> Powers writes with wit and insight about our country's poisonous political discourse, chronicling the efforts she's made to stay grounded and preserve her sanity in a post-truth era that has driven many of us to the edge. She draws on lessons offered by faith leaders, therapists, theologians, social scientists, and activists working for change today. She dismantles the widespread misconception that grace means being nice, letting people get away with harmful behavior, or choosing neutrality in the name of peace. Grace, she argues, is anything but an act of surrender; instead, it is a kinetic and transformative force.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3664</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2149 - In the Footsteps of Julian of Norwich: Marie Laure</title>
      <description>In her recent book, Return from Exile: Revelations from an Anchoress in St. Augustine, our guest Marie Laure tells us about a multi-year attempt to visit the home of the mystical writer, Julian of Norwich, and the serendipitous pilgrimage there and back again
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Dec 2021 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>In the Footsteps of Julian of Norwich: Marie Laure</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>49</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/27f7eb64-556b-11ec-abaf-430fea618f98/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In her recent book, Return from Exile: Revelations from an Anchoress in St. Augustine, our guest Marie Laure tells us about a multi-year attempt to visit the home of the mystical writer, Julian of Norwich, and the serendipitous pilgrimage there and back again</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In her recent book, Return from Exile: Revelations from an Anchoress in St. Augustine, our guest Marie Laure tells us about a multi-year attempt to visit the home of the mystical writer, Julian of Norwich, and the serendipitous pilgrimage there and back again
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        <![CDATA[<p>In her recent book, <em>Return from Exile: Revelations from an Anchoress in St. Augustine, o</em>ur guest Marie Laure tells us about a multi-year attempt to visit the home of the mystical writer, Julian of Norwich, and the serendipitous pilgrimage there and back again</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3692</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2148 - Giving Things a History: Maia Kotrosits</title>
      <description>Our guest Maia Kotrosits talks about her recent book, The Lives of Objects, which invites us to rethink the material history of Christian communities through the centuries
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      <pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2021 19:16:51 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Giving Things a History: Maia Kotrosits</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>48</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Maia Kotrosits talks about her recent book, The Lives of Objects, which invites us to rethink the material history of Christian communities through the centuries</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Maia Kotrosits talks about her recent book, The Lives of Objects, which invites us to rethink the material history of Christian communities through the centuries
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Maia Kotrosits talks about her recent book, The Lives of Objects, which invites us to rethink the material history of Christian communities through the centuries</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3503</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2147 - A Grown-up Relationship with a Grown-up God: Jacqui Lewis</title>
      <description>Rev. Jacqui Lewis takes her readers on a journey in her recent book Fierce Love - across the country, across decades, and from trauma to healing to flourishing. 
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      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2021 21:27:22 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Grown-up Relationship with a Grown-up God: Jacqui Lewis</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>47</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/e9e971c6-4bd8-11ec-a815-071518536b03/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Rev. Jacqui Lewis takes her readers on a journey in her recent book Fierce Love - across the country, across decades, and from trauma to healing to flourishing. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Rev. Jacqui Lewis takes her readers on a journey in her recent book Fierce Love - across the country, across decades, and from trauma to healing to flourishing. 
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        <![CDATA[<p>Rev. Jacqui Lewis takes her readers on a journey in her recent book Fierce Love - across the country, across decades, and from trauma to healing to flourishing. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3623</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2146 - Reading Evangelicals: Daniel Silliman</title>
      <description>Our guest, historian Daniel Silliman, has looked at five novels that helped shape the culture and faith of Evangelicalism in America. We talk about his recent book, Reading Evangelicals, and explore this fascinating odyssey of religion and politics
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      <pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2021 20:55:39 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Reading Evangelicals: Daniel Silliman</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>46</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/1661c852-4814-11ec-976f-f3cf992f1e1e/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, historian Daniel Silliman, has looked at five novels that helped shape the culture and faith of Evangelicalism in America. We talk about his recent book, Reading Evangelicals, and explore this fascinating odyssey of religion and politics</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, historian Daniel Silliman, has looked at five novels that helped shape the culture and faith of Evangelicalism in America. We talk about his recent book, Reading Evangelicals, and explore this fascinating odyssey of religion and politics
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, historian Daniel Silliman, has looked at five novels that helped shape the culture and faith of Evangelicalism in America. We talk about his recent book, Reading Evangelicals, and explore this fascinating odyssey of religion and politics</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3736</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2145 - I'll Carry the Faith For You Until You Can Again: Katie Hays</title>
      <description>After decades in the pulpit, pastor Katie Hays helped found a church for those who felt "devout and kicked out." She talks to us about her journey, and about her recent book, God Gets Everything God Wants
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      <pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2021 22:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>I'll Carry the Faith For You Until You Can Again: Katie Hays</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>45</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/b3d5594c-40de-11ec-ae88-5b7f2a3b2209/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>After decades in the pulpit, pastor Katie Hays helped found a church for those who felt "devout and kicked out." She talks to us about her journey, and about her recent book, God Gets Everything God Wants</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>After decades in the pulpit, pastor Katie Hays helped found a church for those who felt "devout and kicked out." She talks to us about her journey, and about her recent book, God Gets Everything God Wants
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>After decades in the pulpit, pastor Katie Hays helped found a church for those who felt "devout and kicked out." She talks to us about her journey, and about her recent book, God Gets Everything God Wants</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3544</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2144 - Getting Back to Livin' Again: Danté Stewart</title>
      <description>Our guest Danté Stewart talks about his recent book Shoutin;' In the Fire: An American Epistle, and the theological imperative to be honestly Black in white-controlled spaces
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      <pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2021 20:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Getting Back to Livin' Again: Danté Stewart</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>44</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/bd1c0fe8-3a83-11ec-be70-a3132c0b0866/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Danté Stewart talks about his recent book Shoutin;' In the Fire: An American Epistle, and the theological imperative to be honestly Black in white-controlled spaces</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Danté Stewart talks about his recent book Shoutin;' In the Fire: An American Epistle, and the theological imperative to be honestly Black in white-controlled spaces
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Danté Stewart talks about his recent book Shoutin;' In the Fire: An American Epistle, and the theological imperative to be honestly Black in white-controlled spaces</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3760</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2143 - Decolonizing Theological Education: Elizabeth Conde-Frazier</title>
      <description>In her recent book, Atando Cabos, our guest Elizabeth Conde-Frazier explores the rich and varied contributions of Latinx communities to theological education.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 24 Oct 2021 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Decolonizing Theological Education: Elizabeth Conde-Frazier</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>43</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/601f697e-345d-11ec-9334-83a6964680b7/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In her recent book, Atando Cabos, our guest Elizabeth Conde-Frazier explores the rich and varied contributions of Latinx communities to theological education.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In her recent book, Atando Cabos, our guest Elizabeth Conde-Frazier explores the rich and varied contributions of Latinx communities to theological education.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In her recent book, Atando Cabos, our guest Elizabeth Conde-Frazier explores the rich and varied contributions of Latinx communities to theological education.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3942</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#2142 - The Complex Legacy of Herod the Great: Bruce Chilton</title>
      <description>King Herod the Great looms large on the edges of the stories of the New Testament. In a monumental and fascinating new study, Bruce Chilton digs deep into the history and intrigue of this theocratic monarch, and the dynasty he founded. 
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      <pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2021 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Complex Legacy of Herod the Great: Bruce Chilton</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>42</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/91e6db52-2e33-11ec-a031-e79aaf9db42e/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>King Herod the Great looms large on the edges of the stories of the New Testament. In a monumental and fascinating new study, Bruce Chilton digs deep into the history and intrigue of this theocratic monarch, and the dynasty he founded. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>King Herod the Great looms large on the edges of the stories of the New Testament. In a monumental and fascinating new study, Bruce Chilton digs deep into the history and intrigue of this theocratic monarch, and the dynasty he founded. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>King Herod the Great looms large on the edges of the stories of the New Testament. In a monumental and fascinating new study, Bruce Chilton digs deep into the history and intrigue of this theocratic monarch, and the dynasty he founded. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3722</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2141 - The Life and Music of Mary Lou Williams: Deanna Witkowski</title>
      <description>Our guest, jazz musician Deanna Witkoski, has written a spiritual biography of Mary Lou Williams, whose life and music helped to shape American Jazz and influence Catholic liturgy in the 20th Century
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      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2021 20:06:27 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Life and Music of Mary Lou Williams: Deanna Witkowski</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>41</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/01652fa4-2b93-11ec-a5d9-e7b4a1f15116/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, jazz musician Deanna Witkoski, has written a spiritual biography of Mary Lou Williams, whose life and music helped to shape American Jazz and influence Catholic liturgy in the 20th Century</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, jazz musician Deanna Witkoski, has written a spiritual biography of Mary Lou Williams, whose life and music helped to shape American Jazz and influence Catholic liturgy in the 20th Century
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, jazz musician Deanna Witkoski, has written a spiritual biography of Mary Lou Williams, whose life and music helped to shape American Jazz and influence Catholic liturgy in the 20th Century</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3804</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2140 - Rewilding Motherhood: Shannon K. Evans</title>
      <description>Our guest Shannon K. Evans talks about the vast landscapes of feminine spirituality and the value of deep connection with diverse voices and experiences in her recent book Rewilding Motherhood
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      <pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2021 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Rewilding Motherhood: Shannon K. Evans</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>40</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/210067f4-23e4-11ec-bf9b-f35102ff65b6/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Shannon K. Evans talks about the vast landscapes of feminine spirituality and the value of deep connection with diverse voices and experiences in her recent book Rewilding Motherhood</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Shannon K. Evans talks about the vast landscapes of feminine spirituality and the value of deep connection with diverse voices and experiences in her recent book Rewilding Motherhood
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Shannon K. Evans talks about the vast landscapes of feminine spirituality and the value of deep connection with diverse voices and experiences in her recent book <em>Rewilding Motherhood</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3499</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[210067f4-23e4-11ec-bf9b-f35102ff65b6]]></guid>
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      <title>#2139 - Orientation Over Destination: Carrie Newcomer</title>
      <description>We welcome back songwriter Carrie Newcomer to talk about her recent album and book of poetry, both with the title Until Now
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      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2021 18:56:05 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Orientation Over Destination: Carrie Newcomer</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>39</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/fa6ee08a-1fc3-11ec-8030-23882020117a/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We welcome back songwriter Carrie Newcomer to talk about her recent album and book of poetry, both with the title Until Now</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We welcome back songwriter Carrie Newcomer to talk about her recent album and book of poetry, both with the title Until Now
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We welcome back songwriter Carrie Newcomer to talk about her recent album and book of poetry, both with the title <em>Until Now</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3797</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[fa6ee08a-1fc3-11ec-8030-23882020117a]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM6596593787.mp3?updated=1632769303" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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    <item>
      <title>#2138 - Texts After Terror: Rhiannon Graybill</title>
      <description>Our guest Rhiannon Graybill invites us to look at the uncomfortable parts of the Old Testament with new eyes, through re-reading and even "unhappy reading" that unearths the fuzzy, messy, and icky parts of the stories. NOTE: While not explicit, this episode does mention sexuality, rape, and gendered violence.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Sep 2021 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Texts After Terror: Rhiannon Graybill</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>38</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/59e5d576-18b9-11ec-8338-fb5796332686/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Rhiannon Graybill invites us to look at the uncomfortable parts of the Old Testament with new eyes, through re-reading and even "unhappy reading" that unearths the fuzzy, messy, and icky parts of the stories</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Rhiannon Graybill invites us to look at the uncomfortable parts of the Old Testament with new eyes, through re-reading and even "unhappy reading" that unearths the fuzzy, messy, and icky parts of the stories. NOTE: While not explicit, this episode does mention sexuality, rape, and gendered violence.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Rhiannon Graybill invites us to look at the uncomfortable parts of the Old Testament with new eyes, through re-reading and even "unhappy reading" that unearths the fuzzy, messy, and icky parts of the stories. NOTE: While not explicit, this episode does mention sexuality, rape, and gendered violence.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3710</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[59e5d576-18b9-11ec-8338-fb5796332686]]></guid>
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      <title>#2137 - Becoming a Friend of God: Susan Garthwaite on St. Hildegard</title>
      <description>Our guest Susan Garthwaite has produced a rich and accessible introduction to the thought and writings of St. Hildegard designed for today's seekers and spiritual directors
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      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2021 15:11:09 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Becoming a Friend of God: Susan Garthwaite on St. Hildegard</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/b9b7488c-17c8-11ec-9dc1-1ff27bc4ab9b/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Susan Garthwaite has produced a rich and accessible introduction to the thought and writings of St. Hildegard designed for today's seekers and spiritual directors</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Susan Garthwaite has produced a rich and accessible introduction to the thought and writings of St. Hildegard designed for today's seekers and spiritual directors
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Susan Garthwaite has produced a rich and accessible introduction to the thought and writings of St. Hildegard designed for today's seekers and spiritual directors</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3719</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[b9b7488c-17c8-11ec-9dc1-1ff27bc4ab9b]]></guid>
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      <title>#2136 - Beyond Thoughts and Prayers: Taylor S. Schumann</title>
      <description>In the spring of 2013 our guest Taylor Schumann survived a horrific shooting event that left her traumatized in soul and body. She talks to us about her recent book, When Thoughts and Prayers Aren't Enough, and how people of faith must confront the stark realities of gun violence
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      <pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2021 21:15:31 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Beyond Thoughts and Prayers: Taylor S. Schumann</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/0bfb8114-1731-11ec-909f-a365219e189f/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In the spring of 2013 our guest Taylor Schumann survived a horrific shooting event that left her traumatized in soul and body. She talks to us about her recent book, When Thoughts and Prayers Aren't Enough, and how people of faith must confront the stark realities of gun violence</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In the spring of 2013 our guest Taylor Schumann survived a horrific shooting event that left her traumatized in soul and body. She talks to us about her recent book, When Thoughts and Prayers Aren't Enough, and how people of faith must confront the stark realities of gun violence
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In the spring of 2013 our guest Taylor Schumann survived a horrific shooting event that left her traumatized in soul and body. She talks to us about her recent book, When Thoughts and Prayers Aren't Enough, and how people of faith must confront the stark realities of gun violence</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3496</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2135 - A Queer Christian Survival Story: Julie Rodgers</title>
      <description>Our guest Julie Rodgers spent years trying to "pray the gay away" in her life and her relationships. In her recent book, Outlove, she tells her story of coming back to both her faith and her self
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      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2021 16:00:18 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Queer Christian Survival Story: Julie Rodgers</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/43e4bda8-124e-11ec-8675-0be25c4bf738/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Julie Rodgers spent years trying to "pray the gay away" in her life and her relationships. In her recent book, Outlove, she tells her story of coming back to both her faith and her self</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Julie Rodgers spent years trying to "pray the gay away" in her life and her relationships. In her recent book, Outlove, she tells her story of coming back to both her faith and her self
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Julie Rodgers spent years trying to "pray the gay away" in her life and her relationships. In her recent book, Outlove, she tells her story of coming back to both her faith and her self</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3540</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[43e4bda8-124e-11ec-8675-0be25c4bf738]]></guid>
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      <title>#2134 - Becoming Brave for Racial Justice: Brenda Salter McNeil [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Looking through the lens of the biblical narrative of Esther, our guest Brenda Salter McNeil challenges Christians to recognize the pain in our world so they can work together to repair what is broken.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 29 Aug 2021 22:09:11 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Becoming Brave for Racial Justice: Brenda Salter McNeil [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/3e3fc4de-0915-11ec-af76-8bc5143a8492/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Looking through the lens of the biblical narrative of Esther, our guest Brenda Salter McNeil challenges Christians to recognize the pain in our world so they can work together to repair what is broken.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Looking through the lens of the biblical narrative of Esther, our guest Brenda Salter McNeil challenges Christians to recognize the pain in our world so they can work together to repair what is broken.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Looking through the lens of the biblical narrative of Esther, our guest Brenda Salter McNeil challenges Christians to recognize the pain in our world so they can work together to repair what is broken.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3511</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[3e3fc4de-0915-11ec-af76-8bc5143a8492]]></guid>
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      <title>#2133 - Mapping the Landscape of Spiritual Abuse and Trauma: Dan Koch</title>
      <description>Our guest Dan Koch has been studying spiritual abuse and trauma in Christian churches. We talk about his recent findings, and their implications for faith in the 21st century
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      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2021 21:35:59 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Mapping the Landscape of Spiritual Abuse and Trauma: Dan Koch</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/858e8594-0390-11ec-86ae-ff4582a529b4/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Dan Koch has been studying spiritual abuse and trauma in Christian churches. We talk about his recent findings, and their implications for faith in the 21st century</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Dan Koch has been studying spiritual abuse and trauma in Christian churches. We talk about his recent findings, and their implications for faith in the 21st century
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Dan Koch has been studying spiritual abuse and trauma in Christian churches. We talk about his recent findings, and their implications for faith in the 21st century</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3675</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[858e8594-0390-11ec-86ae-ff4582a529b4]]></guid>
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      <title>#2132 - Reclaiming Scripture as a Handbook for Resisting Tyranny: Jennifer Butler [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Rev. Jennifer Butler loved the Bible and her Christian faith, but then was disillusioned when it was used against her as a woman. Instead of leaving religion, she found a fresh approach to faith as liberation
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2021 16:39:23 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Reclaiming Scripture as a Handbook for Resisting Tyranny: Jennifer Butler [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/89bb0248-feac-11eb-8863-4f6e3bb0f81b/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Rev. Jennifer Butler loved the Bible and her Christian faith, but then was disillusioned when it was used against her as a woman. Instead of leaving religion, she found a fresh approach to faith as liberation</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Rev. Jennifer Butler loved the Bible and her Christian faith, but then was disillusioned when it was used against her as a woman. Instead of leaving religion, she found a fresh approach to faith as liberation
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Rev. Jennifer Butler loved the Bible and her Christian faith, but then was disillusioned when it was used against her as a woman. Instead of leaving religion, she found a fresh approach to faith as liberation</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3593</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2131 - Countering Islamophobia: Jordan Denari Duffner</title>
      <description>We welcome our returning guest Jordan Denari Duffner to talk about her recent book Islamophobia: What Christians Should Know (and Do) about Anti-Muslim Discrimination
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      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Aug 2021 05:02:57 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Countering Islamophobia: Jordan Denari Duffner</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2d304d9a-f3bb-11eb-b511-8bb22b2bebc1/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We welcome our returning guest Jordan Denari Duffner to talk about her recent book Islamophobia: What Christians Should Know (and Do) about Anti-Muslim Discrimination</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We welcome our returning guest Jordan Denari Duffner to talk about her recent book Islamophobia: What Christians Should Know (and Do) about Anti-Muslim Discrimination
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We welcome our returning guest Jordan Denari Duffner to talk about her recent book <em>Islamophobia: What Christians Should Know (and Do) about Anti-Muslim Discrimination</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3564</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2130 - Notes of a Native Daughter: Keri Day</title>
      <description>Our guest, Princeton Seminary professor Keri Day, talks about her recent book, Notes of a Native Daughter. In it, she challenges the norms and assumptions of theological education and invites readers to join in a revolutionary hope.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2021 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Notes of a Native Daughter: Keri Day</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/067883de-eb19-11eb-8e38-ffaad916783e/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Princeton Seminary professor Keri Day, talks about her recent book, Notes of a Native Daughter. In it, she challenges the norms and assumptions of theological education and invites readers to a revolutionary hope.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Princeton Seminary professor Keri Day, talks about her recent book, Notes of a Native Daughter. In it, she challenges the norms and assumptions of theological education and invites readers to join in a revolutionary hope.
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Princeton Seminary professor Keri Day, talks about her recent book, Notes of a Native Daughter. In it, she challenges the norms and assumptions of theological education and invites readers to join in a revolutionary hope.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3846</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2129 - Joe Biden and Catholicism: Massimo Faggioli [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We return to a conversation from earlier this year, where historian and theologian Dr. Massimo Faggioli provides an insightful overview of Catholicism in US politics, and its place as an anchor in the life of Joe Biden, the man elected to lead the country at a decisive crossroads, an unprecedented moment in US history.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2021 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Joe Biden and Catholicism: Massimo Faggioli [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/240cee34-e750-11eb-88af-b3ec62421df9/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We return to a conversation from earlier this year, where historian and theologian Dr. Massimo Faggioli provides an insightful overview of Catholicism in US politics, and its place as an anchor in the life of Joe Biden, the man elected to lead the country at a decisive crossroads, an unprecedented moment in US history.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We return to a conversation from earlier this year, where historian and theologian Dr. Massimo Faggioli provides an insightful overview of Catholicism in US politics, and its place as an anchor in the life of Joe Biden, the man elected to lead the country at a decisive crossroads, an unprecedented moment in US history.
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We return to a conversation from earlier this year, where historian and theologian Dr. Massimo Faggioli provides an insightful overview of Catholicism in US politics, and its place as an anchor in the life of Joe Biden, the man elected to lead the country at a decisive crossroads, an unprecedented moment in US history.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3659</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2128 - Jesus and John Wayne: Kristin Kobes Du Mez</title>
      <description>Our guest, historian Kristin Kobes Du Mez, discusses her timely and polarizing book, Jesus and John Wayne. This heavily-researched historical account of American Evangelicalism has ignited conversations within denominations and across political divides
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      <pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2021 02:11:07 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Jesus and John Wayne: Kristin Kobes Du Mez</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/df5b0d8c-e2b5-11eb-8636-2b07d5744069/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, historian Kristin Kobes Du Mez, discusses her timely and polarizing book, Jesus and John Wayne. This heavily-researched historical account of American Evangelicalism has ignited conversations within denominations and across political divides</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, historian Kristin Kobes Du Mez, discusses her timely and polarizing book, Jesus and John Wayne. This heavily-researched historical account of American Evangelicalism has ignited conversations within denominations and across political divides
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, historian Kristin Kobes Du Mez, discusses her timely and polarizing book, Jesus and John Wayne. This heavily-researched historical account of American Evangelicalism has ignited conversations within denominations and across political divides</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3652</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2127 - Transgressive Devotion: Natalie Wigg-Stevenson</title>
      <description>Our guest Dr. Natalie Wigg-Stevenson is seeking new vocabularies and structures to understand theology. Her work explores the rich and unsettling depths of performance art as a means to bring us into communication with the divine mystery
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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2021 16:54:49 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Transgressive Devotion: Natalie Wigg-Stevenson</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/79966572-df41-11eb-b65d-3fc4c67d727f/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Natalie Wigg-Stevenson is seeking new vocabularies and structures to understand theology. Her work explores the rich and unsettling depths of performance art as a means to bring us into communication with the divine mystery</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Dr. Natalie Wigg-Stevenson is seeking new vocabularies and structures to understand theology. Her work explores the rich and unsettling depths of performance art as a means to bring us into communication with the divine mystery
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Dr. Natalie Wigg-Stevenson is seeking new vocabularies and structures to understand theology. Her work explores the rich and unsettling depths of performance art as a means to bring us into communication with the divine mystery</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3714</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2126 - Laughing with Ashes on Our Heads: Tish Harrison Warren</title>
      <description>We welcome Reverend Tish Harrison Warren to talk to us about her recent book, Prayer in the Night: For Those Who Watch, or Work, or Weep
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      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2021 22:11:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Laughing with Ashes on Our Heads: Tish Harrison Warren</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/32254782-d9ef-11eb-9b4b-db20c9a1da67/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We welcome Reverend Tish Harrison Warren to talk to us about her recent book, Prayer in the Night: For Those Who Watch, or Work, or Weep</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We welcome Reverend Tish Harrison Warren to talk to us about her recent book, Prayer in the Night: For Those Who Watch, or Work, or Weep
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We welcome Reverend Tish Harrison Warren to talk to us about her recent book, Prayer in the Night: For Those Who Watch, or Work, or Weep</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3638</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2125 - The Disordered Cosmos: Chanda Prescod-Weinstein</title>
      <description>Our guest Dr. Chanda Prescod-Weinstein is a physicist and astronomer who explores the interactions at stellar and subatomic levels. We discuss her fascinating new book about her work, The Disordered Cosmos
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      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2021 19:58:33 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Disordered Cosmos: Chanda Prescod-Weinstein</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/5ea04242-d393-11eb-93ef-5341e09b09c5/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Dr. Chanda Prescod-Weinstein is a physicist and astronomer who explores the interactions at stellar and subatomic levels. We discuss her fascinating new book about her work, The Disordered Cosmos</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Dr. Chanda Prescod-Weinstein is a physicist and astronomer who explores the interactions at stellar and subatomic levels. We discuss her fascinating new book about her work, The Disordered Cosmos
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Dr. Chanda Prescod-Weinstein is a physicist and astronomer who explores the interactions at stellar and subatomic levels. We discuss her fascinating new book about her work, <em>The Disordered Cosmos</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3636</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2124 - The Christian Call for Reparations: Duke L. Kwon and Gregory Thompson</title>
      <description>Our guests Duke Kwon and Gregory Thompson discuss the church's responsibility to heal racial brokenness and to lead the way in making concrete restitution and reparations to the descendants of the victims of slavery
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2021 20:14:09 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Christian Call for Reparations: Duke L. Kwon and Gregory Thompson</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/29b5508a-ce12-11eb-8bee-635931c2a998/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guests Duke Kwon and Gregory Thompson discuss the church's responsibility to heal racial brokenness and to lead the way in making concrete restitution and reparations to the victims of slavery</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guests Duke Kwon and Gregory Thompson discuss the church's responsibility to heal racial brokenness and to lead the way in making concrete restitution and reparations to the descendants of the victims of slavery
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guests Duke Kwon and Gregory Thompson discuss the church's responsibility to heal racial brokenness and to lead the way in making concrete restitution and reparations to the descendants of the victims of slavery</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3634</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2123 - Listening to the 'Least of These': Miguel De La Torre</title>
      <description>Our guest, Professor Miguel De La Torre, challenges us to listen to the vulnerable to find the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We discuss how recent book, Decolonizing Christianity.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2021 18:35:48 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Listening to the 'Least of These': Miguel De La Torre</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/eb2af886-c6f2-11eb-a603-332df75511b0/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Professor Miguel De La Torre, challenges us to listen to the vulnerable to find the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We discuss how recent book, Decolonizing Christianity.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Professor Miguel De La Torre, challenges us to listen to the vulnerable to find the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We discuss how recent book, Decolonizing Christianity.
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Professor Miguel De La Torre, challenges us to listen to the vulnerable to find the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We discuss how recent book, Decolonizing Christianity.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3613</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2122 - Cultivating the Garden of the Soul: Lisa Colón DeLay</title>
      <description>Our guest Lisa Colón DeLay talks to us about being a spiritual companion, her recent book The Wild Land Within, and her podcast Spark My Muse
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      <pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2021 17:01:59 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Cultivating the Garden of the Soul: Lisa Colón DeLay</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/030b00da-c230-11eb-9052-23cecb52d7f0/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Lisa Colón DeLay talks to us about being a spiritual companion, her recent book The Wild Land Within, and her podcast Spark My Muse</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Lisa Colón DeLay talks to us about being a spiritual companion, her recent book The Wild Land Within, and her podcast Spark My Muse
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Lisa Colón DeLay talks to us about being a spiritual companion, her recent book <em>The Wild Land Within</em>, and her podcast <em>Spark My Muse</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3729</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2121 - In the Garden of the Caracaras: Jonathan Meiburg</title>
      <description>Jonathan Meiburg is known for his work with the band Shearwater. He returns to Things Not Seen to talk about a different passion, described in his recent book, A Most Remarkable Creature. This amazing travelogue takes us into the world of the Caracaras, perhaps the world's most socially intelligent bird.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2021 18:22:41 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>In the Garden of the Caracaras: Jonathan Meiburg</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/bf4bbd46-bcba-11eb-9de0-9f6378df258e/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Jonathan Meiburg is known for his work with the band Shearwater. He returns to Things Not Seen to talk about a different passion, described in his recent book, A Most Remarkable Creature. This amazing travelogue takes us into the world of the Caracaras, perhaps the world's smartest bird.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Jonathan Meiburg is known for his work with the band Shearwater. He returns to Things Not Seen to talk about a different passion, described in his recent book, A Most Remarkable Creature. This amazing travelogue takes us into the world of the Caracaras, perhaps the world's most socially intelligent bird.
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Jonathan Meiburg is known for his work with the band Shearwater. He returns to Things Not Seen to talk about a different passion, described in his recent book, <em>A Most Remarkable Creature</em>. This amazing travelogue takes us into the world of the Caracaras, perhaps the world's most socially intelligent bird.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3464</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2120 - In Search of the Things Behind the Things: Onaje X. O. Woodbine</title>
      <description>In his new book, Take Back What the Devil Stole, our guest Onaje X.O. Woodbine takes us into the world of Ms. Donna Haskins, a healer and mystic raised in a poor neighborhood in Boston, who claims to battle evils on a cosmic scale. 
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      <pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2021 01:18:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>In Search of the Things Behind the Things: Onaje X. O. Woodbine</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In his new book, Take Back What the Devil Stole, our guest Onaje X.O. Woodbine takes us into the world of Ms. Donna Haskins, a healer and mystic raised in a poor neighborhood in Boston, who claims to battle evils on a cosmic scale. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In his new book, Take Back What the Devil Stole, our guest Onaje X.O. Woodbine takes us into the world of Ms. Donna Haskins, a healer and mystic raised in a poor neighborhood in Boston, who claims to battle evils on a cosmic scale. 
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        <![CDATA[<p>In his new book, <em>Take Back What the Devil Stole</em>, our guest Onaje X.O. Woodbine takes us into the world of Ms. Donna Haskins, a healer and mystic raised in a poor neighborhood in Boston, who claims to battle evils on a cosmic scale. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3662</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2119 - Something Holy in the Mess: Katie Langston</title>
      <description>In her recent book, Sealed, our guest Katie Langston tells the story of her journey through grief and doubt into a deeper connection with her Christian faith
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      <pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2021 17:54:42 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Something Holy in the Mess: Katie Langston</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/1ee9574a-b0ef-11eb-8d5b-4b4808e1b620/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In her recent book, Sealed, our guest Katie Langston tells the story of her journey through grief and doubt into a deeper connection with her Christian faith</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In her recent book, Sealed, our guest Katie Langston tells the story of her journey through grief and doubt into a deeper connection with her Christian faith
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In her recent book, Sealed, our guest Katie Langston tells the story of her journey through grief and doubt into a deeper connection with her Christian faith</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3504</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2118 - Jesus in His Own Words: Fr. Bill Cain, SJ</title>
      <description>Bill Cain is a Jesuit who has spent his life writing screenplays for movies and television. Now, in his recent book, The Diary of Jesus Christ, he reimagines the stories of the Gospels from the point of view of Jesus himself, with breathtaking results
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      <pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2021 19:56:54 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Jesus in His Own Words: Fr. Bill Cain, SJ</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/15887fd6-ad12-11eb-844c-87a5498237f4/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Bill Cain is a Jesuit who has spent his life writing screenplays for movies and television. Now, in his recent book, The Diary of Jesus Christ, he reimagines the stories of the Gospels from the point of view of Jesus himself, with breathtaking results</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Bill Cain is a Jesuit who has spent his life writing screenplays for movies and television. Now, in his recent book, The Diary of Jesus Christ, he reimagines the stories of the Gospels from the point of view of Jesus himself, with breathtaking results
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Bill Cain is a Jesuit who has spent his life writing screenplays for movies and television. Now, in his recent book, The Diary of Jesus Christ, he reimagines the stories of the Gospels from the point of view of Jesus himself, with breathtaking results</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3839</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2117 - The Beautiful Life of Abraham Joshua Heschel: Martin Doblmeier</title>
      <description>Martin Doblmeier has made 35 films about faith, featuring spiritual leaders from many religious traditions. His most recent film is Spiritual Audacity: The Abraham Joshua Heschel story, which premieres on PBS stations in May 2021
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      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Apr 2021 20:12:08 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Beautiful Life of Abraham Joshua Heschel: Martin Doblmeier</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/de6700d4-a601-11eb-af5f-2b754a9ccbfe/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Martin Doblmeier has made 35 films about faith, featuring spiritual leaders from many religious traditions. His most recent film is Spiritual Audacity: The Abraham Joshua Heschel story, which premieres on PBS stations in May 2021</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Martin Doblmeier has made 35 films about faith, featuring spiritual leaders from many religious traditions. His most recent film is Spiritual Audacity: The Abraham Joshua Heschel story, which premieres on PBS stations in May 2021
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Martin Doblmeier has made 35 films about faith, featuring spiritual leaders from many religious traditions. His most recent film is Spiritual Audacity: The Abraham Joshua Heschel story, which premieres on PBS stations in May 2021</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3640</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2116 - A Mirror for Evangelicals: Anthea Butler</title>
      <description>In her recent book, White Evangelical Racism: The Politics of Morality in America, our guest Dr. Anthea Butler traces the long history of connections between American Evangelicalism and anti-Black racism. This is a powerful conversation that brings light and truth to a part of American history that needs deep examination
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      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2021 04:18:13 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Mirror for Evangelicals: Anthea Butler</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/e435b61c-a18e-11eb-ae66-3f998d9d79bf/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In her recent book, White Evangelical Racism: The Politics of Morality in America, our guest Dr. Anthea Butler traces the long history of connections between American Evangelicalism and anti-Black racism</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In her recent book, White Evangelical Racism: The Politics of Morality in America, our guest Dr. Anthea Butler traces the long history of connections between American Evangelicalism and anti-Black racism. This is a powerful conversation that brings light and truth to a part of American history that needs deep examination
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In her recent book, White Evangelical Racism: The Politics of Morality in America, our guest Dr. Anthea Butler traces the long history of connections between American Evangelicalism and anti-Black racism. This is a powerful conversation that brings light and truth to a part of American history that needs deep examination</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3512</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2115 - A Sensitivity to Others: Brad Elliott Stone and Jacob L Goodson</title>
      <description>We welcome back philosophers Brad Elliott Stone and Jacob L. Goodson to discuss their recent edited volume on Richard Rorty, Emmanuel Levinas, and Jewish prophetic traditions. The book, Rorty and the Prophetic: Jewish Engagements with a Secular Philosopher, is the culmination of more that twenty years of conversations.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2021 17:33:28 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Sensitivity to Others: Brad Elliott Stone and Jacob L Goodson</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/bfb292ba-9aea-11eb-a4ec-fbbab8d42975/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We welcome back philosophers Brad Elliott Stone and Jacob L. Goodson to discuss their recent edited volume on Richard Rorty, Emmanuel Levinas, and Jewish prophetic traditions</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We welcome back philosophers Brad Elliott Stone and Jacob L. Goodson to discuss their recent edited volume on Richard Rorty, Emmanuel Levinas, and Jewish prophetic traditions. The book, Rorty and the Prophetic: Jewish Engagements with a Secular Philosopher, is the culmination of more that twenty years of conversations.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We welcome back philosophers Brad Elliott Stone and Jacob L. Goodson to discuss their recent edited volume on Richard Rorty, Emmanuel Levinas, and Jewish prophetic traditions. The book, <em>Rorty and the Prophetic: Jewish Engagements with a Secular Philosopher</em>, is the culmination of more that twenty years of conversations.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3866</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2114 - Still Learning: James Martin, SJ</title>
      <description>In his recent book, Learning to Pray, Fr. James Martin, SJ, invites readers to a lifelong journey in growing closer to God. In this frank and wide-ranging conversation, Fr. Martin talks about some of the difficulties and strategies of prayer, and how even he feels like he is 'still learning' to do prayer well.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Still Learning: James Martin, SJ</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/342aa0cc-9552-11eb-8cfc-7f6caa2a35ed/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In his recent book, Learning to Pray, Fr. James Martin, SJ, invites readers to a lifelong journey in growing closer to God. In this frank and wide-ranging conversation, Fr. Martin talks about some of the difficulties and strategies of prayer, and how even he feels like he is 'still learning' to do prayer well.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In his recent book, Learning to Pray, Fr. James Martin, SJ, invites readers to a lifelong journey in growing closer to God. In this frank and wide-ranging conversation, Fr. Martin talks about some of the difficulties and strategies of prayer, and how even he feels like he is 'still learning' to do prayer well.
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In his recent book, Learning to Pray, Fr. James Martin, SJ, invites readers to a lifelong journey in growing closer to God. In this frank and wide-ranging conversation, Fr. Martin talks about some of the difficulties and strategies of prayer, and how even he feels like he is 'still learning' to do prayer well.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3639</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2113 - Rediscovering Jesus: Diana Butler Bass</title>
      <description>We welcome back Diana Butler Bass to discuss her powerful recent book, Freeing Jesus: Rediscovering Jesus as Friend, Teacher, Savior, Lord, Way, and Presence. The project builds on several of her recent books, to offer a connected vision of the many ways that Jesus upsets the tables of our comfortable identities.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2021 16:43:38 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Rediscovering Jesus: Diana Butler Bass</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/790ca6a4-90ac-11eb-85af-5b54be31b01e/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We welcome back Diana Butler Bass to discuss her recent book, Freeing Jesus: Rediscovering Jesus as Friend, Teacher, Savior, Lord, Way, and Presence</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We welcome back Diana Butler Bass to discuss her powerful recent book, Freeing Jesus: Rediscovering Jesus as Friend, Teacher, Savior, Lord, Way, and Presence. The project builds on several of her recent books, to offer a connected vision of the many ways that Jesus upsets the tables of our comfortable identities.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We welcome back Diana Butler Bass to discuss her powerful recent book, <em>Freeing Jesus: Rediscovering Jesus as Friend, Teacher, Savior, Lord, Way, and Presence. </em>The project builds on several of her recent books, to offer a connected vision of the many ways that Jesus upsets the tables of our comfortable identities.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3688</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2112 - A Place at the Table: Emily M.D. Scott [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Rev. Emily Scott is a pastor and church planter. She talks to us about her work, and her recent book For All Who Hunger: Searching for Communion in a Shattered World
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      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2021 01:26:51 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Place at the Table: Emily M.D. Scott [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6e94fb2e-902d-11eb-943d-7371f3e1dd4d/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Rev. Emily Scott is a pastor and church planter. She talks to us about her work, and her recent book For All Who Hunger: Searching for Communion in a Shattered World</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Rev. Emily Scott is a pastor and church planter. She talks to us about her work, and her recent book For All Who Hunger: Searching for Communion in a Shattered World
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Rev. Emily Scott is a pastor and church planter. She talks to us about her work, and her recent book For All Who Hunger: Searching for Communion in a Shattered World</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3584</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2111 - Religious Freedom is not just for Christians: Jay Wexler [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Jay Wexler returns to talk about his recent book, Our Non-Christian Nation: How Atheists, Satanists, Pagans, and Others Are Demanding Their Rightful Place in Public Life
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      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2021 17:07:12 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Religious Freedom is not just for Christians: Jay Wexler [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/44ed89ce-8742-11eb-bf72-03bc0b2ddacd/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Jay Wexler returns to talk about his recent book, Our Non-Christian Nation: How Atheists, Satanists, Pagans, and Others Are Demanding Their Rightful Place in Public Life</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Jay Wexler returns to talk about his recent book, Our Non-Christian Nation: How Atheists, Satanists, Pagans, and Others Are Demanding Their Rightful Place in Public Life
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Jay Wexler returns to talk about his recent book, Our Non-Christian Nation: How Atheists, Satanists, Pagans, and Others Are Demanding Their Rightful Place in Public Life</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3456</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2110 - Seeing Beyond Grief: Angela Williams Gorrell</title>
      <description>In her recent book, The Gravity of Joy, our guest Angela Williams Gorrell invites readers on a hope-filled journey into the heart of unimaginable grief and back again. Her work invites readers to see the complex relationship between despair and joy. 
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      <pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2021 18:14:25 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Seeing Beyond Grief: Angela Williams Gorrell</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/f232c23c-7f6f-11eb-a361-9b3e6f2f2b12/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In her recent book, The Gravity of Joy, our guest Angela Williams Gorrell invites readers on a hope-filled journey into the heart of unimaginable grief and back again. Her work invites readers to see the complex relationship between despair and joy. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In her recent book, The Gravity of Joy, our guest Angela Williams Gorrell invites readers on a hope-filled journey into the heart of unimaginable grief and back again. Her work invites readers to see the complex relationship between despair and joy. 
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        <![CDATA[<p>In her recent book, The Gravity of Joy, our guest Angela Williams Gorrell invites readers on a hope-filled journey into the heart of unimaginable grief and back again. Her work invites readers to see the complex relationship between despair and joy. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3554</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2109 - Reclaiming Scripture as a Handbook for Resisting Tyranny: Jennifer Butler</title>
      <description>Rev. Jennifer Butler loved the Bible and her Christian faith, but then was disillusioned when it was used against her as a woman. Instead of leaving religion, she found a fresh approach to faith as liberation, and would go on to become an ordained minister and founder of Faith in Public Life, an advocacy organization.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2021 19:31:39 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Reclaiming Scripture as a Handbook for Resisting Tyranny: Jennifer Butler</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/e16d8a66-7ac1-11eb-a436-6fb5b5685ab6/image/uploads_2F1614625822834-arag6llgr67-79b89a817c95676141dc95df9923a40c_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Rev. Jennifer Butler loved the Bible and her Christian faith, but then was disillusioned when it was used against her as a woman. Instead of leaving religion, she found a fresh approach to faith as liberation</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Rev. Jennifer Butler loved the Bible and her Christian faith, but then was disillusioned when it was used against her as a woman. Instead of leaving religion, she found a fresh approach to faith as liberation, and would go on to become an ordained minister and founder of Faith in Public Life, an advocacy organization.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Rev. Jennifer Butler loved the Bible and her Christian faith, but then was disillusioned when it was used against her as a woman. Instead of leaving religion, she found a fresh approach to faith as liberation, and would go on to become an ordained minister and founder of Faith in Public Life, an advocacy organization.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3593</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2108 - Mapping the Journey of Desmond Tutu: Michael Battle</title>
      <description>The Rev. Dr. Michael Battle has been a student and friend of Archbishop Desmond Tutu for a good deal of his life. In his recent book, Battle offers what he calls "A Spiritual Biography of South Africa's Confessor"
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      <pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2021 05:50:20 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Mapping the Journey of Desmond Tutu: Michael Battle</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/d488e02c-772c-11eb-a44b-fb0ab8c8c4af/image/uploads_2F1614231996024-6v0z9tike3-3c62e0dd2a2ca2307e47160d4682018a_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>The Rev. Dr. Michael Battle has been a student and friend of Archbishop Desmond Tutu for a good deal of his life. In his recent book, Battle offers what he calls "A Spiritual Biography of South Africa's Confessor"</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The Rev. Dr. Michael Battle has been a student and friend of Archbishop Desmond Tutu for a good deal of his life. In his recent book, Battle offers what he calls "A Spiritual Biography of South Africa's Confessor"
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>The Rev. Dr. Michael Battle has been a student and friend of Archbishop Desmond Tutu for a good deal of his life. In his recent book, Battle offers what he calls "A Spiritual Biography of South Africa's Confessor"</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3583</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[d488e02c-772c-11eb-a44b-fb0ab8c8c4af]]></guid>
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      <title>#2107 - Becoming Brave for Racial Justice: Brenda Salter McNeil [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Looking through the lens of the biblical narrative of Esther, our guest Brenda Salter McNeil challenges Christians to recognize the pain in our world so they can work together to repair what is broken.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2021 21:30:15 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Becoming Brave for Racial Justice: Brenda Salter McNeil [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/a16c9d8c-6fd4-11eb-9a1b-6b6e35515c27/image/uploads_2F1613424399654-roakkya4asg-7f73885f39c680205e24375727d28407_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Looking through the lens of the biblical narrative of Esther, our guest Brenda Salter McNeil challenges Christians to recognize the pain in our world so they can work together to repair what is broken.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Looking through the lens of the biblical narrative of Esther, our guest Brenda Salter McNeil challenges Christians to recognize the pain in our world so they can work together to repair what is broken.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Looking through the lens of the biblical narrative of Esther, our guest Brenda Salter McNeil challenges Christians to recognize the pain in our world so they can work together to repair what is broken.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3511</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[a16c9d8c-6fd4-11eb-9a1b-6b6e35515c27]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM2029241080.mp3?updated=1613424940" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2106 - Searching for Sabbath in a World of Screens: Andy and Amy Crouch</title>
      <description>In a world overwhelmed by smart devices, Amy Crouch and her father Andy explore the wisdom of Sabbath in their recent book, My Tech-Wise Life
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      <pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2021 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Searching for Sabbath in a World of Screens: Andy and Amy Crouch</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/5042a5ca-6956-11eb-9367-1f27c5436cb3/image/uploads_2F1612710475837-nmrp5pi3b6p-3d7abf3ce409fc2e2934f7b07949bc5a_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In a world overwhelmed by smart devices, Amy Crouch and her father Andy explore the wisdom of Sabbath in their recent book, My Tech-Wise Life</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In a world overwhelmed by smart devices, Amy Crouch and her father Andy explore the wisdom of Sabbath in their recent book, My Tech-Wise Life
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In a world overwhelmed by smart devices, Amy Crouch and her father Andy explore the wisdom of Sabbath in their recent book, My Tech-Wise Life</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3561</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[5042a5ca-6956-11eb-9367-1f27c5436cb3]]></guid>
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      <title>#2105 - Joe Biden and Catholicism: Massimo Faggioli</title>
      <description>Historian and theologian Dr. Massimo Faggioli provides an insightful overview of Catholicism in US politics, and its place as an anchor in the life of Joe Biden, the man elected to lead the country at a decisive crossroads, an unprecedented moment in US history.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2021 17:56:35 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Joe Biden and Catholicism: Massimo Faggioli</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>40</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/558603e6-64b6-11eb-ba87-c738fda01280/image/uploads_2F1612201979596-53zbkm11q9q-8e38acef962b2209d8f2bed35684a6af_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Historian and theologian Dr. Massimo Faggioli provides an insightful overview of Catholicism in US politics, and its place as an anchor in the life of Joe Biden, the man elected to lead the country at a decisive crossroads, an unprecedented moment in US history.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Historian and theologian Dr. Massimo Faggioli provides an insightful overview of Catholicism in US politics, and its place as an anchor in the life of Joe Biden, the man elected to lead the country at a decisive crossroads, an unprecedented moment in US history.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Historian and theologian Dr. Massimo Faggioli provides an insightful overview of Catholicism in US politics, and its place as an anchor in the life of Joe Biden, the man elected to lead the country at a decisive crossroads, an unprecedented moment in US history.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3659</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[558603e6-64b6-11eb-ba87-c738fda01280]]></guid>
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      <title>#2104 - Learning from Nebraska: Ross Benes</title>
      <description>In his recent book, Rural Rebellion, author and journalist Ross Benes takes a multi-decade look at the complex story of how Nebraska went from being a progressive state to a conservative stronghold.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2021 16:34:57 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Learning from Nebraska: Ross Benes</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/52f39e00-6186-11eb-926d-b38b426e74c8/image/uploads_2F1611851529522-xrc11swz4kr-38f35e74bf461b334f803034daf94100_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In his recent book, Rural Rebellion, author and journalist Ross Benes takes a multi-decade look at how Nebraska went from being a progressive state to a conservative stronghold.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In his recent book, Rural Rebellion, author and journalist Ross Benes takes a multi-decade look at the complex story of how Nebraska went from being a progressive state to a conservative stronghold.
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In his recent book, Rural Rebellion, author and journalist Ross Benes takes a multi-decade look at the complex story of how Nebraska went from being a progressive state to a conservative stronghold.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3516</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[52f39e00-6186-11eb-926d-b38b426e74c8]]></guid>
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      <title>#2103 - Free Reality Winner: Billie Jean Winner-David and Wendy Collins</title>
      <description>Former NSA analyst Reality Leigh Winner was convicted in 2018 of leaking information about Russian hacking into the 2016 American elections. She received the harshest sentence ever for such a crime. We speak with her mother and an advocate for the Winner family about the case, and what might be done to help the case for Winner's release.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 17 Jan 2021 00:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Free Reality Winner: Billie Jean Winner-Davis and Wendy Collins</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>43</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/861cf110-5852-11eb-8fc8-83caad3d61d1/image/uploads_2F1610839698624-iqgah1zwzhs-baa3a7c9e42fe057f60d48401740fe8a_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Former NSA analyst Reality Leigh Winner was convicted in 2018 of leaking information about Russian hacking into the 2016 American elections. She received the harshest sentence ever for such a crime. We speak with her mother and an advocate for the Winner family about the case, and what might be done to help the case for Winner's release.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Former NSA analyst Reality Leigh Winner was convicted in 2018 of leaking information about Russian hacking into the 2016 American elections. She received the harshest sentence ever for such a crime. We speak with her mother and an advocate for the Winner family about the case, and what might be done to help the case for Winner's release.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Former NSA analyst Reality Leigh Winner was convicted in 2018 of leaking information about Russian hacking into the 2016 American elections. She received the harshest sentence ever for such a crime. We speak with her mother and an advocate for the Winner family about the case, and what might be done to help the case for Winner's release.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3956</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[861cf110-5852-11eb-8fc8-83caad3d61d1]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM8425559956.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2102 - The Hip-Hop Gospel of Tupac Shakur: Daniel White Hodge (Rebroadcast)</title>
      <description>Our guest Daniel White Hodge returns to Things Not Seen to discuss his recent book, Baptized in Dirty Water: Reimagining the Gospel According to Tupac Amaru Shakur
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      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2021 16:17:48 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title> The Hip-Hop Gospel of Tupac Shakur: Daniel White Hodge (Rebroadcast)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/243ad652-5428-11eb-ac7f-bb98f937dd7e/image/uploads_2F1610381688290-x24dmious2e-d3821eddec0fc839bac8ccd0cb68e519_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Daniel White Hodge returns to Things Not Seen to discuss his recent book, Baptized in Dirty Water: Reimagining the Gospel According to Tupac Amaru Shakur</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Daniel White Hodge returns to Things Not Seen to discuss his recent book, Baptized in Dirty Water: Reimagining the Gospel According to Tupac Amaru Shakur
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Daniel White Hodge returns to Things Not Seen to discuss his recent book, Baptized in Dirty Water: Reimagining the Gospel According to Tupac Amaru Shakur</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3671</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[243ad652-5428-11eb-ac7f-bb98f937dd7e]]></guid>
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      <title>#2101 - Incarnational Recovery - John Edward Crean, Jr.</title>
      <description>We speak with Fr. John E. Crean, Jr. about his recent book, Recovering Benedict: Twelve-Step Living and the Rule of Benedict
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      <pubDate>Sun, 03 Jan 2021 21:59:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Incarnational Recovery - John Edward Crean, Jr.</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7f3f5e3a-4e0e-11eb-b189-23fba0f2cf61/image/uploads_2F1609710965185-tkwlvqt897-979d85f7b8c33a983653f383d61264e3_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak with Fr. John E. Crean, Jr. about his recent book, Recovering Benedict: Twelve-Step Living and the Rule of Benedict</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We speak with Fr. John E. Crean, Jr. about his recent book, Recovering Benedict: Twelve-Step Living and the Rule of Benedict
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We speak with Fr. John E. Crean, Jr. about his recent book, Recovering Benedict: Twelve-Step Living and the Rule of Benedict</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3372</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[7f3f5e3a-4e0e-11eb-b189-23fba0f2cf61]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM4809045788.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2046 - Sympathy for the Devil: Adam Kotsko</title>
      <description>We discuss a recent book by philosopher and theologian Adam Kotsko, The Prince of This World, which is a political and genealogical account of the concept of the Devil in the Abrahamic traditions.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2020 18:09:13 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Sympathy for the Devil: Adam Kotsko</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>46</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/52f8427c-4938-11eb-98c7-07500ea45fe3/image/uploads_2F1609179159369-3tugr33zhyb-b82b69d6959bca94d375b489b1818353_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We discuss a recent book by philosopher and theologian Adam Kotsko, The Prince of This World, which is a political and genealogical account of the concept of the Devil in the Abrahamic traditions.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We discuss a recent book by philosopher and theologian Adam Kotsko, The Prince of This World, which is a political and genealogical account of the concept of the Devil in the Abrahamic traditions.
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We discuss a recent book by philosopher and theologian Adam Kotsko, The Prince of This World, which is a political and genealogical account of the concept of the Devil in the Abrahamic traditions.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3622</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2045 - Talking About Weird Religion: Leah Payne and Brian Doak</title>
      <description>Our guests, Leah Payne and Brian Doak, are both professors, authors, and pop culture aficionados. They are the creators and co-hosts of the amazing podcast, Weird Religion.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2020 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Talking About Weird Religion: Leah Payne and Brian Doak</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>45</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/310f8784-41a3-11eb-9d5c-cf46ef279072/image/uploads_2F1608345335710-wz2dkr0ixm-37d50bd1a29c340a765e4cb8ae8732f1_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guests, Leah Payne and Brian Doak, are both professors, authors, and pop culture aficionados, who are the creators and co-hosts of the amazing podcast Weird Religion</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guests, Leah Payne and Brian Doak, are both professors, authors, and pop culture aficionados. They are the creators and co-hosts of the amazing podcast, Weird Religion.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guests, Leah Payne and Brian Doak, are both professors, authors, and pop culture aficionados. They are the creators and co-hosts of the amazing podcast, <em>Weird Religion</em>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3670</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[310f8784-41a3-11eb-9d5c-cf46ef279072]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM3948137130.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2044 - A Spiritual Form of Therapy: Michael Scott Alexander</title>
      <description>In his recent book, Making Peace with the Universe, our guest Michael Scott Alexander takes readers through a multi-millennium journey across continents and religious traditions to explore how faith helped form a kind of "therapy before therapy."
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2020 21:14:18 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Spiritual Form of Therapy: Michael Scott Alexander</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>44</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/9a992630-3f12-11eb-8d87-33dce5feb975/image/uploads_2F1608062671906-pzo0jzb152n-f2af7624ba7e0bb1cea7cd1e63eba246_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In his recent book, Making Peace with the Universe, our guest Michael Scott Alexander takes readers through a multi-millennium journey across continents and religious traditions to explore how faith helped form a kind of "therapy before therapy."</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In his recent book, Making Peace with the Universe, our guest Michael Scott Alexander takes readers through a multi-millennium journey across continents and religious traditions to explore how faith helped form a kind of "therapy before therapy."
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In his recent book, Making Peace with the Universe, our guest Michael Scott Alexander takes readers through a multi-millennium journey across continents and religious traditions to explore how faith helped form a kind of "therapy before therapy."</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3680</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[9a992630-3f12-11eb-8d87-33dce5feb975]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM1519128794.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2043: The Merciful-Hearted God: David Bentley Hart [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>This conversation with David Bentley Hart was our most-downloaded episode of 2020, and we are glad to return to its vital message of hope as the year draws to a close.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2020 05:18:06 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Merciful-Hearted God: David Bentley Hart [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>43</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/99f8beb6-3913-11eb-9544-43947629d5ef/image/uploads_2F1607403976266-rvq82hh7lyl-9a20f2c537db4de306353019bba7b9e5_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>This conversation with David Bentley Hart was our most-downloaded episode of 2020, and we are glad to return to its vital message of hope as the year draws to a close.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This conversation with David Bentley Hart was our most-downloaded episode of 2020, and we are glad to return to its vital message of hope as the year draws to a close.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This conversation with David Bentley Hart was our most-downloaded episode of 2020, and we are glad to return to its vital message of hope as the year draws to a close.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3684</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[99f8beb6-3913-11eb-9544-43947629d5ef]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM2853193231.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2042 - Finding Our Whole Selves 'In Real Life' - Chris Stedman</title>
      <description>Chris Stedman returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his recent book, IRL: Finding Realness, Meaning, and Belonging in Our Digital Lives
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      <pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2020 18:38:19 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Finding Our Whole Selves 'In Real Life' - Chris Stedman</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>42</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/26d62cfa-3271-11eb-b17b-97474c607da8/image/uploads_2F1606674689724-30n4fjwxc36-d2d28f74658a7a8861db16647d10fc7e_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Chris Stedman returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his recent book, IRL: Finding Realness, Meaning, and Belonging in Our Digital Lives</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Chris Stedman returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his recent book, IRL: Finding Realness, Meaning, and Belonging in Our Digital Lives
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Chris Stedman returns to Things Not Seen to talk about his recent book, <em>IRL: Finding Realness, Meaning, and Belonging in Our Digital Lives</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>4092</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[26d62cfa-3271-11eb-b17b-97474c607da8]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM5708486530.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2041 - A Fresh Look at Populism in American Politics: Thomas Frank</title>
      <description>We revisit our conversation with Thomas Frank from earlier this year, to discuss his recent book, The People, No. Frank offers a long-term view of populism as a political force in American politics, and brings some fresh light on our own national situation.
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      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2020 02:18:02 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Fresh Look at Populism in American Politics: Thomas Frank</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>41</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/0f02d7f0-2ec4-11eb-9146-3ba9d3a69e74/image/uploads_2F1606270505585-31akwjyc1gd-c8c3ef58dab94764fab6a4f8bacb2c67_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our conversation with Thomas Frank from earlier this year, to discuss his recent book, The People, No.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit our conversation with Thomas Frank from earlier this year, to discuss his recent book, The People, No. Frank offers a long-term view of populism as a political force in American politics, and brings some fresh light on our own national situation.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit our conversation with Thomas Frank from earlier this year, to discuss his recent book, <em>The People, No</em>. Frank offers a long-term view of populism as a political force in American politics, and brings some fresh light on our own national situation.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3310</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[0f02d7f0-2ec4-11eb-9146-3ba9d3a69e74]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM4744962687.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2040 - Becoming Brave for Racial Justice: Brenda Salter McNeil</title>
      <description>Looking through the lens of the biblical narrative of Esther, our guest Brenda Salter McNeil challenges Christians to recognize the pain in our world so they can work together to repair what is broken. 
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      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2020 02:32:03 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Becoming Brave for Racial Justice: Brenda Salter McNeil</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>40</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/e368ad72-278e-11eb-9586-438a1da6c915/image/uploads_2F1605478015765-33eu6x7kgru-ebf4d515f9c631df99b348e29f05d911_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Looking through the lens of the biblical narrative of Esther, our guest Brenda Salter McNeil challenges Christians to recognize the pain in our world so they can work together to repair what is broken. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Looking through the lens of the biblical narrative of Esther, our guest Brenda Salter McNeil challenges Christians to recognize the pain in our world so they can work together to repair what is broken. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Looking through the lens of the biblical narrative of Esther, our guest Brenda Salter McNeil challenges Christians to recognize the pain in our world so they can work together to repair what is broken. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3511</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[e368ad72-278e-11eb-9586-438a1da6c915]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM7405402895.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2039 - Bringing Our Whole Selves to Worship: Kaitlin B. Curtice [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We revisit our conversation with Kaitlin Curtice from earlier this year, and talk about the dualities of being an enrolled citizen of the Potawatomi Nation and someone who has grown up in the Christian faith. Her recent book, Native, explores these complexities with wit, honesty, and grace.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2020 16:43:19 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Bringing Our Whole Selves to Worship: Kaitlin B. Curtice [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>39</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/37f7d02c-2373-11eb-9ea6-43f58ab719b6/image/uploads_2F1605026242870-jbmr8ihuwv-dfa4fb529acd80827387ee942844a6b2_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our conversation with Kaitlin Curtice from earlier this year, and talk about the dualities of being an enrolled citizen of the Potawatomi Nation and someone who has grown up in the Christian faith. Her recent book, Native, explores these complexities with wit, honesty, and grace.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit our conversation with Kaitlin Curtice from earlier this year, and talk about the dualities of being an enrolled citizen of the Potawatomi Nation and someone who has grown up in the Christian faith. Her recent book, Native, explores these complexities with wit, honesty, and grace.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit our conversation with Kaitlin Curtice from earlier this year, and talk about the dualities of being an enrolled citizen of the Potawatomi Nation and someone who has grown up in the Christian faith. Her recent book, Native, explores these complexities with wit, honesty, and grace.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3544</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[37f7d02c-2373-11eb-9ea6-43f58ab719b6]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM8846408176.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2038 - The Evolving Role of the "Religious Left": Jack Jenkins [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>On the weekend before the 2020 election, we revisit a conversation about Jack Jenkins's recent book, American Prophets, which maps the complex interplay of progressive political movements and religious communities in America over the past three decades. The result is both wide-ranging and fascinating.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2020 17:42:02 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Evolving Role of the "Religious Left": Jack Jenkins [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>38</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/fa78ca3c-1c68-11eb-8181-533980285325/image/uploads_2F1604252207099-0i6oythmdj7-6358b88e24f7782aa1f690b62c6745e2_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>On the weekend before the 2020 election, we revisit a conversation about Jack Jenkins's recent book, American Prophets, which maps the complex interplay of progressive political movements and religious communities in America over the past three decades. The result is both wide-ranging and fascinating.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>On the weekend before the 2020 election, we revisit a conversation about Jack Jenkins's recent book, American Prophets, which maps the complex interplay of progressive political movements and religious communities in America over the past three decades. The result is both wide-ranging and fascinating.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>On the weekend before the 2020 election, we revisit a conversation about Jack Jenkins's recent book, American Prophets, which maps the complex interplay of progressive political movements and religious communities in America over the past three decades. The result is both wide-ranging and fascinating.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3887</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[fa78ca3c-1c68-11eb-8181-533980285325]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM3728134237.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2037 - The Love of Politics Versus the Politics of Love: Drew G. I. Hart</title>
      <description>Our guest Drew G. I. Hart discusses his recent book, Who Will Be A Witness, which calls Christians adrift in "the love of politics" back to an ethics of love and solidarity
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      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2020 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Love of Politics Versus the Politics of Love: Drew G. I. Hart</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/138c84c4-1664-11eb-97ce-f3a0dbf9bb3c/image/uploads_2F1603590450473-cc9i9m60npd-141f340754fd1f8f508fce251c732e0b_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Drew G. I. Hart discusses his recent book, Who Will Be A Witness, which calls Christians back to an ethics of love and solidarity</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Drew G. I. Hart discusses his recent book, Who Will Be A Witness, which calls Christians adrift in "the love of politics" back to an ethics of love and solidarity
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Drew G. I. Hart discusses his recent book, Who Will Be A Witness, which calls Christians adrift in "the love of politics" back to an ethics of love and solidarity</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3842</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[138c84c4-1664-11eb-97ce-f3a0dbf9bb3c]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM1311857499.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2036 - Promoting Hope as a Virtue: Jacob Goodson</title>
      <description>In a powerful new book, called The Dark Years?, our guest Jacob Goodson explores the possibilities and dangers when a philosopher tries to make prophesies about the future 
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      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2020 19:44:33 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Promoting Hope as a Virtue: Jacob Goodson</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/fe99aa58-1242-11eb-9e4d-c725ea450609/image/uploads_2F1603135868578-tt9osljndkf-0ece245e5388fcbc435f2f7e1183116d_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In a powerful new book, called The Dark Years?, our guest Jacob Goodson explores the possibilities and dangers when a philosopher tries to make prophesies about the future </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In a powerful new book, called The Dark Years?, our guest Jacob Goodson explores the possibilities and dangers when a philosopher tries to make prophesies about the future 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In a powerful new book, called The Dark Years?, our guest Jacob Goodson explores the possibilities and dangers when a philosopher tries to make prophesies about the future </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3946</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[fe99aa58-1242-11eb-9e4d-c725ea450609]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM7901872160.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2035 - The Beating Heart of Judaism: Sarah Hurwitz</title>
      <description>As a young woman, Sarah Hurwitz left Judaism behind. Then circumstances brought her back, and she explores the richness of the heritage and faith of Judaism in her book, Here All Along:
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      <pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2020 18:27:04 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Beating Heart of Judaism: Sarah Hurwitz</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>As a young woman, Sarah Hurwitz left Judaism behind. Then circumstances brought her back, and she explores the richness of the heritage and faith of Judaism in her book, Here All Along</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>As a young woman, Sarah Hurwitz left Judaism behind. Then circumstances brought her back, and she explores the richness of the heritage and faith of Judaism in her book, Here All Along:
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        <![CDATA[<p>As a young woman, Sarah Hurwitz left Judaism behind. Then circumstances brought her back, and she explores the richness of the heritage and faith of Judaism in her book, Here All Along:</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3837</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2034 - Ever Listening, Ever Dancing: Rabbi Arthur Ocean Waskow</title>
      <description>Our guest, Rabbi Arthur Ocean Waskow, talks about his long journey in search of deeper justice and a deeper Judaism. We talk about his recent book, Dancing in God's Earthquake: The Coming Transformation of Religion
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      <pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2020 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Ever Listening, Ever Dancing: Rabbi Arthur Ocean Waskow</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/9a4a747e-05f4-11eb-8c3a-23438ea5971b/image/uploads_2F1601783340093-o1w5o707pi-9eef85dbc063bb3cfe14c9c74e06dd5c_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Rabbi Arthur Ocean Waskow, talks about his long journey in search of deeper justice and a deeper Judaism. We talk about his recent book, Dancing in God's Earthquake: The Coming Transformation of Religion</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Rabbi Arthur Ocean Waskow, talks about his long journey in search of deeper justice and a deeper Judaism. We talk about his recent book, Dancing in God's Earthquake: The Coming Transformation of Religion
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Rabbi Arthur Ocean Waskow, talks about his long journey in search of deeper justice and a deeper Judaism. We talk about his recent book, Dancing in God's Earthquake: The Coming Transformation of Religion</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3634</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2033 - Re-Awakening Advent Wonder: Scott Erickson</title>
      <description>Scott Erickson is an artist and performer who, with his new book Honest Advent, has created a wonderful set of meditations and images for reflecting on the earthiness and mystery at the heart of the Advent season
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      <pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2020 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Re-Awakening Advent Wonder: Scott Erickson</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/39cda642-ffa1-11ea-9ae5-1f6f044f5098/image/uploads_2F1601087626891-gae5s7vppme-d9d84486c1fdd2c79439288c9a037961_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Scott Erickson is an artist and performer who, with his new book Honest Advent, has created a wonderful set of meditations and images for reflecting on the earthiness and mystery at the heart of the Advent season</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Scott Erickson is an artist and performer who, with his new book Honest Advent, has created a wonderful set of meditations and images for reflecting on the earthiness and mystery at the heart of the Advent season
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Scott Erickson is an artist and performer who, with his new book Honest Advent, has created a wonderful set of meditations and images for reflecting on the earthiness and mystery at the heart of the Advent season</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3659</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2032 - Life Among the Bruderhof: Clare Stober</title>
      <description>Three decades ago, Clare Stober left behind a successful middle class life to follow Jesus. Now, with a new book, she has helped collect a hundred stories of the world of the Bruderhof
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      <pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2020 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Life Among the Bruderhof: Clare Stober</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/63946e2c-fafe-11ea-be0f-9fd5a4071c71/image/uploads_2F1600577863948-s0e7smzlw6n-890c805a647784134c193428f0935f02_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Three decades ago, Clare Stober left behind a successful middle class life to follow Jesus. Now, with a new book, she has helped collect a hundred stories of the world of the Bruderhof</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Three decades ago, Clare Stober left behind a successful middle class life to follow Jesus. Now, with a new book, she has helped collect a hundred stories of the world of the Bruderhof
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Three decades ago, Clare Stober left behind a successful middle class life to follow Jesus. Now, with a new book, she has helped collect a hundred stories of the world of the Bruderhof</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3655</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2031 - The Journey of Recovery from Childhood Traumas: Michael R. Lovell</title>
      <description>Dr. Michael Lovell, president of Marquette University, opens up about his own own experience with trauma, and how that, combined with his faith, has led him to work to create resources for trauma recovery for the city of Milwaukee and the Midwest
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      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2020 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Journey of Recovery from Childhood Traumas: Michael R. Lovell</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/999cd01a-f6a1-11ea-a6b1-9795e31a1ff3/image/uploads_2F1600098160745-z7wdi2njajb-e393e2ff50351ee20fb6bf96ffa999ce_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Dr. Michael Lovell, president of Marquette University, opens up about his own own experience with trauma, and how that has led him to work to create resources for trauma recovery for the city of Milwaukee and the Midwest</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Dr. Michael Lovell, president of Marquette University, opens up about his own own experience with trauma, and how that, combined with his faith, has led him to work to create resources for trauma recovery for the city of Milwaukee and the Midwest
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Dr. Michael Lovell, president of Marquette University, opens up about his own own experience with trauma, and how that, combined with his faith, has led him to work to create resources for trauma recovery for the city of Milwaukee and the Midwest</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3679</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2030 - The Influence of Norman Lear on the Religious Left: L. Benjamin Rolsky</title>
      <description>Our guest L. Benjamin Rolsky joins us to discuss his recent book, The Rise and Fall of the Religious Left, where he looks at the legacy of television mogul Norman Lear on American religious and political culture.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 06 Sep 2020 20:11:19 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Influence of Norman Lear on the Religious Left: L. Benjamin Rolsky</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/d308bf16-f07b-11ea-997f-5363f24d713e/image/uploads_2F1599422512411-ljjp89lcde8-0b7e05258e3c34696942d8cdd25c5161_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest L. Benjamin Rolsky joins us to discuss his recent book, The Rise and Fall of the Religious Left, where he looks at the legacy of television mogul Norman Lear on American religious and political culture.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest L. Benjamin Rolsky joins us to discuss his recent book, The Rise and Fall of the Religious Left, where he looks at the legacy of television mogul Norman Lear on American religious and political culture.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest L. Benjamin Rolsky joins us to discuss his recent book, The Rise and Fall of the Religious Left, where he looks at the legacy of television mogul Norman Lear on American religious and political culture.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3756</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[d308bf16-f07b-11ea-997f-5363f24d713e]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM6072717222.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2029 - Jesus Named Names: Heidi B. Neumark</title>
      <description>Pastor Heidi Neumark returns to Things Not Seen to talk about her forthcoming book, Sanctuary: Being Christian in the Wake of Trump, which will be released in late September
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      <pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2020 15:27:07 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Jesus Named Names: Heidi B. Neumark</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/52bf58bc-eb9c-11ea-b7e5-cfd3bc0e6e94/image/uploads_2F1598886485321-7gpfgtsqqdo-4c53c9f6a4291fe278b5715c4143dc5d_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Pastor Heidi Neumark returns to Things Not Seen to talk about her forthcoming book, Sanctuary: Being Christian in the Wake of Trump, which will be released later this month</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Pastor Heidi Neumark returns to Things Not Seen to talk about her forthcoming book, Sanctuary: Being Christian in the Wake of Trump, which will be released in late September
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Pastor Heidi Neumark returns to Things Not Seen to talk about her forthcoming book, Sanctuary: Being Christian in the Wake of Trump, which will be released in late September</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3419</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2028 - A Place at the Table: Emily M. D. Scott</title>
      <description>Rev. Emily Scott is a pastor and church planter. She talks to us about her work, and her recent book For All Who Hunger: Searching for Communion in a Shattered World
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      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2020 17:08:56 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Place at the Table: Emily M. D. Scott</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/0df56c46-e62c-11ea-9ba8-6f81faded507/image/uploads_2F1598288731035-ogidwu846a-90ddb27970d95d166c00fba129bf188e_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Rev. Emily Scott is a pastor and church planter. She talks to us about her work, and her recent book For All Who Hunger: Searching for Communion in a Shattered World</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Rev. Emily Scott is a pastor and church planter. She talks to us about her work, and her recent book For All Who Hunger: Searching for Communion in a Shattered World
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Rev. Emily Scott is a pastor and church planter. She talks to us about her work, and her recent book For All Who Hunger: Searching for Communion in a Shattered World</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3580</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2027 - Dismantling the Narratives of Racial Hierarchy: Daniel Hill</title>
      <description>In his recent book, White Lies, pastor Daniel Hill offers nine strategies for addressing both individual and systemic white supremacy in our lives and in our churches
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      <pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2020 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Dismantling the Narratives of Racial Hierarchy: Daniel Hill</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/c985d4e6-df5b-11ea-803a-87911114baf0/image/uploads_2F1597539556635-hr6ccszd41d-834ac8636b44168495162ef40563ee23_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In his recent book, White Lies, pastor Daniel Hill offers nine strategies for addressing both individual and systemic white supremacy in our lives and in our churches</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In his recent book, White Lies, pastor Daniel Hill offers nine strategies for addressing both individual and systemic white supremacy in our lives and in our churches
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In his recent book, <em>White Lies</em>, pastor Daniel Hill offers nine strategies for addressing both individual and systemic white supremacy in our lives and in our churches</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3709</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2026 - Keepsakes Lasting Beyond Any Hunger: Thomas Frank</title>
      <description>Essayist, editor, and historian Thomas Frank has been writing about the American experiment, and exploring the twists and turns of our common struggles. His most recent book, The People, No!, looks at the ways we misunderstand Populism, and how its promise might be rehabilitated.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2020 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Keepsakes Lasting Beyond Any Hunger: Thomas Frank</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/c7230a3c-d869-11ea-bb73-13521fe9005d/image/uploads_2F1596775927846-l1sj4i17ytd-12cf82f26a228271134a3e15e7b2048a_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Essayist, editor, and historian Thomas Frank has been writing about the American experiment, and exploring the twists and turns of our common struggles. His most recent book, The People, No!, looks at the ways we misunderstand Populism, and how its promise might be rehabilitated.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Essayist, editor, and historian Thomas Frank has been writing about the American experiment, and exploring the twists and turns of our common struggles. His most recent book, The People, No!, looks at the ways we misunderstand Populism, and how its promise might be rehabilitated.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Essayist, editor, and historian Thomas Frank has been writing about the American experiment, and exploring the twists and turns of our common struggles. His most recent book, <em>The People, No!</em>, looks at the ways we misunderstand Populism, and how its promise might be rehabilitated.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3314</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[c7230a3c-d869-11ea-bb73-13521fe9005d]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM8548869758.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2025 - The Promise of Prophetic Pragmatism: Brad Elliott Stone and Jacob Goodson</title>
      <description>Our guests are two philosophy professors, who have written a book that presents their ongoing dialogue about Cornel West, and the promise of "prophetic pragmatism" as a distinctly American political and philosophical movement
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      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2020 23:21:42 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Promise of Prophetic Pragmatism: Brad Elliott Stone and Jacob Goodson</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/f9cc46be-d05e-11ea-a5ec-733e2cd01fed/image/uploads_2F1595891683503-6kbclkpkcvp-aae6892820df4db68b5bae9dc81ad45c_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guests are two philosophy professors, who have written a book that presents their ongoing dialogue about Cornel West, and the promise of "prophetic pragmatism" as a distinctly American political and philosophical movement</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guests are two philosophy professors, who have written a book that presents their ongoing dialogue about Cornel West, and the promise of "prophetic pragmatism" as a distinctly American political and philosophical movement
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guests are two philosophy professors, who have written a book that presents their ongoing dialogue about Cornel West, and the promise of "prophetic pragmatism" as a distinctly American political and philosophical movement</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3930</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2024 - Riding at the Edge of the Herd: Joanna Brooks</title>
      <description>Joanna Brooks returns to the show with a n honest look at the history of racism in the LDS church. We talk about her recent book Mormonism and White Supremacy: American Religion and the Problem of Racial Innocence
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      <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2020 16:34:58 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Riding at the Edge of the Herd: Joanna Brooks</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/93a24e92-caa0-11ea-9f10-ff10b5b12955/image/uploads_2F1595259947721-m53rne8yrdk-a1e256e72e7dadad8f2aae2a7eaa4684_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Joanna Brooks returns to the show with a n honest look at the history of racism in the LDS church. We talk about her recent book Mormonism and White Supremacy</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Joanna Brooks returns to the show with a n honest look at the history of racism in the LDS church. We talk about her recent book Mormonism and White Supremacy: American Religion and the Problem of Racial Innocence
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Joanna Brooks returns to the show with a n honest look at the history of racism in the LDS church. We talk about her recent book Mormonism and White Supremacy: American Religion and the Problem of Racial Innocence</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3759</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2008 - The Pragmatic Prophet: Martin Doblmeier on Telling the Story of Dorothy Day [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We revisit our conversation with filmmaker Martin Doblemeier, whose career has spanned more than three decades and almost three dozen documentaries. He speaks to us about Revolution of the Heart, his new film about Dorothy Day, which aired on PBS earlier this year.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2020 15:36:35 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Pragmatic Prophet: Martin Doblmeier on Telling the Story of Dorothy Day [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>802</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/8b0f21ce-ca8c-11ea-adae-cba23db25604/image/uploads_2F1595251541680-w6ffjc9i00d-e86671eea32e350540b4c00f7fa6e229_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our conversation with filmmaker Martin Doblemeier, whose career has spanned more than three decades and almost three dozen documentaries. He speaks to us about Revolution of the Heart, his new film about Dorothy Day, which aired on PBS earlier this year.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit our conversation with filmmaker Martin Doblemeier, whose career has spanned more than three decades and almost three dozen documentaries. He speaks to us about Revolution of the Heart, his new film about Dorothy Day, which aired on PBS earlier this year.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit our conversation with filmmaker Martin Doblemeier, whose career has spanned more than three decades and almost three dozen documentaries. He speaks to us about Revolution of the Heart, his new film about Dorothy Day, which aired on PBS earlier this year.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3730</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[8b0f21ce-ca8c-11ea-adae-cba23db25604]]></guid>
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      <title>#2023 - Recovering from Our Addiction to Soul Murder: Kerry Connelly</title>
      <description>In her recent book, Good White Racist?, Kerry Connelly names what a lot of liberals are often scared to say: that our addiction to the status quo runs deep, and it's harming all of us.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2020 23:00:32 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Recovering from Our Addiction to Soul Murder: Kerry Connelly</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/beeba7e0-bfda-11ea-b5bd-c756df5aef47/image/uploads_2F1594075678175-8azwa6jc8tb-369d2f39ce70e4f8e66c1c2b6021b8de_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In her recent book, Good White Racist?, Kerry Connelly names what a lot of liberals are often scared to say: that our addiction to the status quo runs deep, and it's harming all of us.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In her recent book, Good White Racist?, Kerry Connelly names what a lot of liberals are often scared to say: that our addiction to the status quo runs deep, and it's harming all of us.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In her recent book, Good White Racist?, Kerry Connelly names what a lot of liberals are often scared to say: that our addiction to the status quo runs deep, and it's harming all of us.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3823</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2022 - The Inevitable Goodness of Growth: Colby Martin</title>
      <description>Years ago, Colby Martin found himself on a new path with his faith. Now with his recent book, The Shift, he invites others on the journey to a more welcoming and progressive form of Christianity.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2020 21:54:12 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Inevitable Goodness of Growth: Colby Martin</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/9abfa48c-bfd2-11ea-bd07-37d27d600251/image/uploads_2F1594072178817-3wni6b1q5i9-d13d3c59c0cc4f38a91a98448606c301_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Years ago, Colby Martin found himself on a new path with his faith. Now with his recent book, The Shift, he invites others on the journey to a more welcoming and progressive form of Christianity.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Years ago, Colby Martin found himself on a new path with his faith. Now with his recent book, The Shift, he invites others on the journey to a more welcoming and progressive form of Christianity.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Years ago, Colby Martin found himself on a new path with his faith. Now with his recent book, The Shift, he invites others on the journey to a more welcoming and progressive form of Christianity.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3857</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[9abfa48c-bfd2-11ea-bd07-37d27d600251]]></guid>
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      <title>#2021 - Proximity, Curiosity, and Humility: Michael T. McRay</title>
      <description>Michael McRay knows the power of stories. In his book, I Am Not your Enemy, he draws on his travels to some of the most violent areas of the world to offer stories of hope and transformation in the pursuit of justice.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2020 00:44:43 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Proximity, Curiosity, and Humility: Michael T. McRay</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/ca5c243e-b4e9-11ea-904b-f7bb5f1208a6/image/uploads_2F1592872614289-fhox3dfdpt-b4f0040e2f133345bfdddca825103d46_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Michael McRay knows the power of stories. In his book, I Am Not your Enemy, he draws on his travels to some of the most violent areas of the world to offer stories of hope and transformation in the pursuit of justice.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Michael McRay knows the power of stories. In his book, I Am Not your Enemy, he draws on his travels to some of the most violent areas of the world to offer stories of hope and transformation in the pursuit of justice.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Michael McRay knows the power of stories. In his book, I Am Not your Enemy, he draws on his travels to some of the most violent areas of the world to offer stories of hope and transformation in the pursuit of justice.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3646</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[ca5c243e-b4e9-11ea-904b-f7bb5f1208a6]]></guid>
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      <title>#2020 - Bringing Our Whole Selves to Worship: Kaitlin Curtice</title>
      <description>We speak with Kaitlin Curtice about the dualities of being an enrolled citizen of the Potawatomi Nation and someone who has grown up in the Christian faith. Her recent book, Native: Identity, Belonging, and Rediscovering God, explores these complexities with wit, honesty, and grace.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2020 21:02:03 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Bringing Our Whole Selves to Worship: Kaitlin Curtice</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/dc8377b8-b401-11ea-ad9e-5f982e93e785/image/uploads_2F1592773062759-zrob38cd25s-96c5e2695450650e4df08d5bb52e7c32_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak with Kaitlin Curtice about the dualities of being an enrolled citizen of the Potawatomi Nation and someone who has grown up in the Christian faith. Her recent book, Native, explores these complexities with wit, honesty, and grace.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We speak with Kaitlin Curtice about the dualities of being an enrolled citizen of the Potawatomi Nation and someone who has grown up in the Christian faith. Her recent book, Native: Identity, Belonging, and Rediscovering God, explores these complexities with wit, honesty, and grace.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We speak with Kaitlin Curtice about the dualities of being an enrolled citizen of the Potawatomi Nation and someone who has grown up in the Christian faith. Her recent book, Native: Identity, Belonging, and Rediscovering God, explores these complexities with wit, honesty, and grace.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3526</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[dc8377b8-b401-11ea-ad9e-5f982e93e785]]></guid>
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      <title>#2019 - Ministry in a time of COVID: Rick Lee James</title>
      <description>We welcome back frequent guest Rick Lee James to talk about ministry, music, and Mister Rogers during the COVID-19 pandemic
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      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2020 01:44:20 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Ministry in a time of COVID: Rick Lee James</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/a4e91424-ae85-11ea-b022-3fad491c4dab/image/uploads_2F1592169921213-bcqfr8zyhdn-ebe7c660162b63e3c59305ba2b111910_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We welcome back frequent guest Rick Lee James to talk about ministry, music, and Mister Rogers during the COVID-19 pandemic</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We welcome back frequent guest Rick Lee James to talk about ministry, music, and Mister Rogers during the COVID-19 pandemic
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We welcome back frequent guest Rick Lee James to talk about ministry, music, and Mister Rogers during the COVID-19 pandemic</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3829</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[a4e91424-ae85-11ea-b022-3fad491c4dab]]></guid>
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      <title>#2018 - Religious freedom is not just for Christians: Jay Wexler</title>
      <description>Jay Wexler returns to talk about his recent book, Our Non-Christian Nation: How Atheists, Satanists, Pagans, and Others Are Demanding Their Rightful Place in Public Life
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      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2020 22:21:50 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Religious freedom is not just for Christians: Jay Wexler</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/a6e72874-ab65-11ea-8134-6ba6aa2308d6/image/uploads_2F1591826351744-sxf0x6fq0n-90da53b507c864ebe256b519c2d9e307_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Jay Wexler returns to talk about his recent book, Our Non-Christian Nation: How Atheists, Satanists, Pagans, and Others Are Demanding Their Rightful Place in Public Life</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Jay Wexler returns to talk about his recent book, Our Non-Christian Nation: How Atheists, Satanists, Pagans, and Others Are Demanding Their Rightful Place in Public Life
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Jay Wexler returns to talk about his recent book, Our Non-Christian Nation: How Atheists, Satanists, Pagans, and Others Are Demanding Their Rightful Place in Public Life</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3450</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[a6e72874-ab65-11ea-8134-6ba6aa2308d6]]></guid>
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      <title>#2017 - The Prophetic Gospel of Tupac Shakur: Daniel White Hodge</title>
      <description>Our guest Daniel White Hodge returns to Things Not Seen to discuss his recent book, Baptized in Dirty Water: Reimagining the Gospel According to Tupac Amaru Shakur
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      <pubDate>Sun, 24 May 2020 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Prophetic Gospel of Tupac Shakur: Daniel White Hodge</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/bc057db2-9bd1-11ea-b39c-cf9c7514984e/image/uploads_2F1590113559734-7qopn9hgt74-ee8770a611a6430ad2378efeafd0bb38_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Daniel White Hodge returns to Things Not Seen to discuss his recent book, Baptized in Dirty Water: Reimagining the Gospel According to Tupac Amaru Shakur</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Daniel White Hodge returns to Things Not Seen to discuss his recent book, Baptized in Dirty Water: Reimagining the Gospel According to Tupac Amaru Shakur
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Daniel White Hodge returns to Things Not Seen to discuss his recent book, Baptized in Dirty Water: Reimagining the Gospel According to Tupac Amaru Shakur</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3671</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[bc057db2-9bd1-11ea-b39c-cf9c7514984e]]></guid>
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      <title>#2016 - The Gospel According to Mad Men: Ann Duncan and Jacob Goodson</title>
      <description>Our guests Ann Duncan and Jacob Goodson are co-editors of the recent anthology, The Universe is Indifferent: Theology, Philosophy, and Mad Men. The book explores issues raised by the popular AMC television show, and its central character, Don Draper.t
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      <pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2020 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Gospel According to Mad Men: Ann Duncan and Jacob Goodson</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/4cb1a9d6-9712-11ea-9273-cf4f56ba25a8/image/uploads_2F1589590842122-ypih5awiz1j-afc23d8a22ee0f3d15dfe2f99c9babd5_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guests Ann Duncan and Jacob Goodson are co-editors of the recent anthology, The Universe is Indifferent: Theology, Philosophy, and Mad Men. The book explores issues raised by the popular AMC television show, and its central character, Don Draper.t</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guests Ann Duncan and Jacob Goodson are co-editors of the recent anthology, The Universe is Indifferent: Theology, Philosophy, and Mad Men. The book explores issues raised by the popular AMC television show, and its central character, Don Draper.t
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guests Ann Duncan and Jacob Goodson are co-editors of the recent anthology, The Universe is Indifferent: Theology, Philosophy, and Mad Men. The book explores issues raised by the popular AMC television show, and its central character, Don Draper.t</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3602</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[4cb1a9d6-9712-11ea-9273-cf4f56ba25a8]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM6617879050.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#2007 - God is Always Walkin' the Line: Richard Beck on Johnny Cash</title>
      <description>Our guest Richard Beck discusses his recent book, Trains, Jesus, and Murder, which explores the many spiritual sides of Johnny Cash
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      <pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2020 00:56:16 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>God is Always Walkin' the Line: Richard Beck on Johnny Cash</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Richard Beck discusses his recent book, Trains, Jesus, and Murder, which explores the many spiritual sides of Johnny Cash</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Richard Beck discusses his recent book, Trains, Jesus, and Murder, which explores the many spiritual sides of Johnny Cash
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Richard Beck discusses his recent book, Trains, Jesus, and Murder, which explores the many spiritual sides of Johnny Cash</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3524</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2015 - A Leader Has Followers: Alex Tindal Wiesendanger</title>
      <description>Our guest Alex Tindal Wiesendanger has spent years studying how grassroots movements can be effective for social change. One of his most important lessons is, start with the Church.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2020 18:21:55 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Leader Has Followers: Alex Tindal Wiesendanger</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/29e3ce90-8d6a-11ea-9282-47522aa94dbe/image/uploads_2F1588529558161-hysi13pf2gm-994179505427f5083c6d72420f13347c_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Alex Tindal Wiesendanger has spent years studying how grassroots movements can be effective for social change. One of his most important lessons is, start with the Church.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Alex Tindal Wiesendanger has spent years studying how grassroots movements can be effective for social change. One of his most important lessons is, start with the Church.
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Alex Tindal Wiesendanger has spent years studying how grassroots movements can be effective for social change. One of his most important lessons is, start with the Church.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3663</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2014 - Helping Ministries Navigate the Court of Public Opinion: Tom Ciesielka</title>
      <description>For more than three decades, Tom Ciesielka has used both faith and passion to guide him in his role as a public relations consultant. We talk about how he balances budgets and belief as a small business owner with a heart for the Gospel.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2020 16:42:41 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Helping Ministries Navigate the Court of Public Opinion: Tom Ciesielka</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/97f601b0-88a5-11ea-b715-df6b094ee002/image/uploads_2F1588005531114-q0hvnez008-6165c3eb3fcc8047794bdb1f7181ce28_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>For more than three decades, Tom Ciesielka has used both faith and passion to guide him in his role as a public relations consultant. We talk about how he balances budgets and belief as a small business owner with a heart for the Gospel.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>For more than three decades, Tom Ciesielka has used both faith and passion to guide him in his role as a public relations consultant. We talk about how he balances budgets and belief as a small business owner with a heart for the Gospel.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>For more than three decades, Tom Ciesielka has used both faith and passion to guide him in his role as a public relations consultant. We talk about how he balances budgets and belief as a small business owner with a heart for the Gospel.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3635</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2013 - The Evolving Role of the "Religious Left": Jack Jenkins</title>
      <description>Jack Jenkins's recent book, American Prophets, maps the complex interplay of progressive political movements and religious communities in America over the past three decades. The result is both wide-ranging and fascinating. 
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      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2020 13:40:30 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Evolving Role of the "Religious Left": Jack Jenkins</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/ddf240b4-83d4-11ea-a897-bbfd7a8ac49c/image/uploads_2F1587475843225-gnerqgtzfje-3621d0fc9cc312822c3be5ddf5aafbbe_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Jack Jenkins's recent book, American Prophets, maps the complex interplay of progressive political movements and religious communities in America over the past three decades. The result is both wide-ranging and fascinating. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Jack Jenkins's recent book, American Prophets, maps the complex interplay of progressive political movements and religious communities in America over the past three decades. The result is both wide-ranging and fascinating. 
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Jack Jenkins's recent book, American Prophets, maps the complex interplay of progressive political movements and religious communities in America over the past three decades. The result is both wide-ranging and fascinating. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3883</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2012 - Recovering the history of Catholic deacons: Phyllis Zagano</title>
      <description>Dr. Phyllis Zagano is an internationally recognized scholar on the history of the diaconate. In particular, she is an expert on the history of women deacons. We discuss her recent book, Women: Icons of Christ
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      <pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2020 01:43:11 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Recovering the history of Catholic deacons: Phyllis Zagano</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/efbad5ba-82a6-11ea-8410-fb1adf68a7a9/image/uploads_2F1587346398506-j15z8ci1ful-2d962f5d0c1b2dafd33248ba44234a3a_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Dr. Phyllis Zagano is an internationally recognized scholar on the history of the diaconate. In particular, she is an expert on the history of women deacons. We discuss her recent book, Women: Icons of Christ</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Dr. Phyllis Zagano is an internationally recognized scholar on the history of the diaconate. In particular, she is an expert on the history of women deacons. We discuss her recent book, Women: Icons of Christ
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Dr. Phyllis Zagano is an internationally recognized scholar on the history of the diaconate. In particular, she is an expert on the history of women deacons. We discuss her recent book, Women: Icons of Christ</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3493</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2011 - Lessons from Haiti: Josh Goralski</title>
      <description>We welcome back Josh Goralski to talk about the lessons he has learned after a year of leading his organization, Unlocking Communities, which is changing lives on the impoverished island of Haiti
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      <pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2020 01:38:34 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Lessons from Haiti: Josh Goralski</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/9f94fa3a-77a6-11ea-9f87-fb33ca93c57a/image/uploads_2F1586136806176-om4uaavbe7-0e72e2c8720c9e8a9d96308d59c45a05_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We welcome back Josh Goralski to talk about the lessons he has learned after a year of leading his organization, Unlocking Communities, which is changing lives on the impoverished island of Haiti</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We welcome back Josh Goralski to talk about the lessons he has learned after a year of leading his organization, Unlocking Communities, which is changing lives on the impoverished island of Haiti
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We welcome back Josh Goralski to talk about the lessons he has learned after a year of leading his organization, Unlocking Communities, which is changing lives on the impoverished island of Haiti</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3749</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2010 - The Merciful-Hearted God: David Bentley Hart</title>
      <description>Our guest David Bentley Hart believes that Christians have made a centuries-long error around the question of Hell. His recent book, That All Shall Be Saved, offers a hope-filled correction.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2020 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Merciful-Hearted God: David Bentley Hart</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/c26ad978-6ade-11ea-a8eb-a71e2fddb95e/image/uploads_2F1584731533865-zf2nvanu81g-47fbfe3070980d2520eba30e1897382f_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest David Bentley Hart believes that Christians have made a centuries-long error around the question of Hell. His recent book, That All Shall Be Saved, offers a hope-filled correction.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest David Bentley Hart believes that Christians have made a centuries-long error around the question of Hell. His recent book, That All Shall Be Saved, offers a hope-filled correction.
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest David Bentley Hart believes that Christians have made a centuries-long error around the question of Hell. His recent book, That All Shall Be Saved, offers a hope-filled correction.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3679</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2006 - Learning to Be Enough: Peggy Weber</title>
      <description>Drawing from deep within the Christian spiritual traditions, our guest Peggy Weber invites listeners to reflect on the fact that, in the eyes of God, they are enough. We discuss her recent book, Enough as You Are.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2020 23:00:57 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Learning to Be Enough: Peggy Weber</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/fb363fbc-67d8-11ea-a13d-4734e84ffd67/image/uploads_2F1584398725749-oy8pme4cvis-b5917c376cb004d2802520781ff097ae_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Drawing from deep within the Christian spiritual traditions, our guest Peggy Weber invites listeners to reflect on the fact that, in the eyes of God, they are enough</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Drawing from deep within the Christian spiritual traditions, our guest Peggy Weber invites listeners to reflect on the fact that, in the eyes of God, they are enough. We discuss her recent book, Enough as You Are.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Drawing from deep within the Christian spiritual traditions, our guest Peggy Weber invites listeners to reflect on the fact that, in the eyes of God, they are enough. We discuss her recent book, <em>Enough as You Are</em>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3713</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2009 - A Christian in Public Life: Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove</title>
      <description>Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove grew up as a conservative and a Republican. Then he heard the voice of Jesus in a food court on Capitol Hill, and his life shifted to focus on care for the least of these among us. We discuss his recent books, Reconstructing the Gospel, and Revolution of Values
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      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2020 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Christian in Public Life: Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/eae7d890-6563-11ea-b974-af1f7a89124f/image/uploads_2F1584129016482-8p9hnp4umvu-3171da7dca354f6f552f56bab8ed22c7_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove grew up as a conservative and a Republican. Then he heard the voice of Jesus in a food court on Capitol Hill, and his life shifted to focus on care for the least of these among us.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove grew up as a conservative and a Republican. Then he heard the voice of Jesus in a food court on Capitol Hill, and his life shifted to focus on care for the least of these among us. We discuss his recent books, Reconstructing the Gospel, and Revolution of Values
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove grew up as a conservative and a Republican. Then he heard the voice of Jesus in a food court on Capitol Hill, and his life shifted to focus on care for the least of these among us. We discuss his recent books, <em>Reconstructing the Gospel</em>, and <em>Revolution of Values</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3560</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[eae7d890-6563-11ea-b974-af1f7a89124f]]></guid>
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      <title>#2008 - The Pragmatic Prophet: Martin Doblmeier on Telling the Story of Dorothy Day</title>
      <description>Our guest is the filmmaker martin Doblemeier, whose career has spanned more than three decades and almost three dozen documentaries. He speaks to us about Revolution of the Heart, his new film about Dorothy Day, premiering on PBS this month.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2020 01:39:15 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Pragmatic Prophet: Martin Doblmeier on Telling the Story of Dorothy Day</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7d774e9a-5c25-11ea-bca5-93d48b55c4f1/image/uploads_2F1583112660212-b6ivnnb6col-0f61a67f4c0fea30134a189d0d529224_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest is the filmmaker martin Doblemeier, whose career has spanned more than three decades and almost three dozen documentaries. He speaks to us about Revolution of the Heart, his new film about Dorothy Day, premiering on PBS this month.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest is the filmmaker martin Doblemeier, whose career has spanned more than three decades and almost three dozen documentaries. He speaks to us about Revolution of the Heart, his new film about Dorothy Day, premiering on PBS this month.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest is the filmmaker martin Doblemeier, whose career has spanned more than three decades and almost three dozen documentaries. He speaks to us about Revolution of the Heart, his new film about Dorothy Day, premiering on PBS this month.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3670</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2005 - "We're in the Faithfulness Business": Robert Wicks</title>
      <description>Psychologist Robert Wicks has spent his career helping people find their way to authenticity. In his recent book, The Tao of Ordinariness, he shares what he has learned about the journey away from unhealthy individualism and narcissism.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Feb 2020 18:45:20 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>"We're in the Faithfulness Business": Robert Wicks</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/5c3e67ea-4910-11ea-be5d-534692154dcc/image/uploads_2F1581014038737-0z66x1a9y3ze-4b9c7a06e5e49fcd42001324237cb320_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Psychologist Robert Wicks has spent his career helping people find their way to authenticity. In his recent book, The Tao of Ordinariness, he shares what he has learned about the journey away from unhealthy individualism and narcissism.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Psychologist Robert Wicks has spent his career helping people find their way to authenticity. In his recent book, The Tao of Ordinariness, he shares what he has learned about the journey away from unhealthy individualism and narcissism.
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        <![CDATA[<p>Psychologist Robert Wicks has spent his career helping people find their way to authenticity. In his recent book, The Tao of Ordinariness, he shares what he has learned about the journey away from unhealthy individualism and narcissism.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3611</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2004 - The Lens of Vulnerability: Ruth Everhart</title>
      <description>Rev. Ruth Everhart has made a journey through trauma and abuse, and her powerful story invites readers to explore their own woundedness and healing. We discuss her books, Ruined, and The #MeToo Reckoning. Please note: This episode deals with explicit subjects. TW: rape, sexual harrassment
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      <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jan 2020 21:35:29 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Lens of Vulnerability: Ruth Everhart</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/dbf81e90-43a7-11ea-a97b-f3e9649ae47e/image/uploads_2F1580419875351-m7du8y5ubr-adf992b05c8bfc8d426a36c1af80a0e8_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Rev. Ruth Everhart has made a journey through trauma and abuse, and her powerful story invites readers to explore their own woundedness and healing. We discuss her books, Ruined, and The #MeToo Reckoning</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Rev. Ruth Everhart has made a journey through trauma and abuse, and her powerful story invites readers to explore their own woundedness and healing. We discuss her books, Ruined, and The #MeToo Reckoning. Please note: This episode deals with explicit subjects. TW: rape, sexual harrassment
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Rev. Ruth Everhart has made a journey through trauma and abuse, and her powerful story invites readers to explore their own woundedness and healing. We discuss her books, Ruined, and The #MeToo Reckoning. Please note: This episode deals with explicit subjects. TW: rape, sexual harrassment</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3567</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2003 - Empires of Sand: Vince Beiser</title>
      <description>Vince Beiser is an award-winning science reporter with an unexpected beat: he chronicles the many ways sand affects our daily lives.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jan 2020 17:05:28 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Empires of Sand: Vince Beiser</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/970e5dcc-3e01-11ea-8b7d-83389c5e90ed/image/uploads_2F1579798707427-2skwnov7a68-b54b3fd4d057e56c3bafab16902cd4b0_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Vince Beiser is an award-winning science reporter with an unexpected beat: he chronicles the many ways sand affects our daily lives.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Vince Beiser is an award-winning science reporter with an unexpected beat: he chronicles the many ways sand affects our daily lives.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Vince Beiser is an award-winning science reporter with an unexpected beat: he chronicles the many ways sand affects our daily lives.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3508</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#2002 - The Green Good News: T. Wilson Dickinson</title>
      <description>Wilson Dickinson brings us a reading of the Gospels that shows us how to transform our lives and our communities in the face of a growing climate crisis.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2020 18:48:11 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Green Good News: T. Wilson Dickinson</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/9d3c0c0a-3634-11ea-a808-7fb88f93ec84/image/uploads_2F1578940999970-a5hp7hgcwis-dd12c994dd5fb18e49d788e233181de3_2FTNS+LOGO+1200x1200.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Wilson Dickinson brings us a reading of the Gospels that shows us how to transform our lives and our communities in the face of a growing climate crisis.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Wilson Dickinson brings us a reading of the Gospels that shows us how to transform our lives and our communities in the face of a growing climate crisis.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Wilson Dickinson brings us a reading of the Gospels that shows us how to transform our lives and our communities in the face of a growing climate crisis.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3668</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[9d3c0c0a-3634-11ea-a808-7fb88f93ec84]]></guid>
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      <title>#2001 - The Untold History of AIDS and the Catholic Church</title>
      <description>We talk with Michael O'Loughlin of America Magazine about the recent podcast series, Plague: Untold Stories of AIDS &amp; the Catholic Church
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Jan 2020 20:33:43 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Complex History of AIDS and the Catholic Church</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/fdd182a2-2ff9-11ea-a7e4-b783eb0415a1/image/uploads_2F1578256120955-5dqkavd021d-63dbede4d424d034e06aac641885ed24_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk with Michael O'Loughlin of America Magazine about the recent podcast series, Plague: Untold Stories of AIDS &amp; the Catholic Church</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We talk with Michael O'Loughlin of America Magazine about the recent podcast series, Plague: Untold Stories of AIDS &amp; the Catholic Church
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We talk with Michael O'Loughlin of America Magazine about the recent podcast series, Plague: Untold Stories of AIDS &amp; the Catholic Church</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3329</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[fdd182a2-2ff9-11ea-a7e4-b783eb0415a1]]></guid>
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      <title>#1933 - Learning to Find Our Grit: Meggie Lee Calvin</title>
      <description>Describing herself as a "recovering holy roller," our guest Meggie Lee Calvin joins us to talk about her recent book, I Am My Own Sanctuary
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      <pubDate>Sun, 29 Dec 2019 19:48:30 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Learning to Find Our Grit: Meggie Lee Calvin</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2ec71828-2a72-11ea-bca3-aff40845032d/image/uploads_2F1577648043190-vw7ugqcs1kc-50a9ebce391deded52b417b5a1b54905_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Describing herself as a "recovering holy roller," our guest Meggie Lee Calvin joins us to talk about her recent book, I Am My Own Sanctuary</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Describing herself as a "recovering holy roller," our guest Meggie Lee Calvin joins us to talk about her recent book, I Am My Own Sanctuary
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Describing herself as a "recovering holy roller," our guest Meggie Lee Calvin joins us to talk about her recent book, I Am My Own Sanctuary</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3552</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1932 - For Cosmic Questions, Love is the Only Answer: Paul Wallace</title>
      <description>Pastor and astrophysicist Paul Wallace returns to our show to talk about his recent book, Love and Quasars
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      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Dec 2019 21:22:45 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>For Cosmic Questions, Love is the Only Answer: Paul Wallace</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/10b58d02-2049-11ea-b9e4-bb047df94f8b/image/uploads_2F1576530874156-ercj2lnxb5m-3a9f332e1c6186180178c7f98b5b3a04_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Pastor and astrophysicist Paul Wallace returns to our show to talk about his recent book, Love and Quasars</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Pastor and astrophysicist Paul Wallace returns to our show to talk about his recent book, Love and Quasars
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Pastor and astrophysicist Paul Wallace returns to our show to talk about his recent book, Love and Quasars</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3152</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1931 - The Dawn of the Baha'i Faith: Steve Sarowitz</title>
      <description>The recent film The Gate chronicles the early history of the Baha'i faith. We speak with executive producer Steve Sarowitz about the making of the film and the events it portrays. 
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      <pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2019 17:44:20 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Dawn of the Baha'i Faith: Steve Sarowitz</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/13beeb5e-1aab-11ea-9d41-3f028258a6a0/image/uploads_2F1575913257078-ha8co5e2baw-d304ffbc60d32337a9de0f45ce7a0f01_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>The recent film The Gate chronicles the early history of the Baha'i faith. We speak with executive producer Steve Sarowitz about the making of the film and the events it portrays. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The recent film The Gate chronicles the early history of the Baha'i faith. We speak with executive producer Steve Sarowitz about the making of the film and the events it portrays. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>The recent film The Gate chronicles the early history of the Baha'i faith. We speak with executive producer Steve Sarowitz about the making of the film and the events it portrays. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3401</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1929 - A Ministry of Vulnerability: Gabrielle Earnshaw on Henri Nouwen</title>
      <description>Gabrielle Earnshaw has spent two decades with the legacy of beloved author Henri Nouwen. She discusses a new edited volume, Following Jesus: Finding Our Way Home in an Age of Anxiety
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      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Dec 2019 22:37:49 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Ministry of Vulnerability: Gabrielle Earnshaw on Henri Nouwen</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/4067168a-17af-11ea-bac5-db01d4971164/image/uploads_2F1575585164429-ls9zlidcrdp-053814de6f398cba823babc116eab23f_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Gabrielle Earnshaw has spent two decades with the legacy of beloved author Henri Nouwen. She discusses a new edited volume, Following Jesus: Finding Our Way Home in an Age of Anxiety</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Gabrielle Earnshaw has spent two decades with the legacy of beloved author Henri Nouwen. She discusses a new edited volume, Following Jesus: Finding Our Way Home in an Age of Anxiety
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Gabrielle Earnshaw has spent two decades with the legacy of beloved author Henri Nouwen. She discusses a new edited volume, Following Jesus: Finding Our Way Home in an Age of Anxiety</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3471</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1930 - Physics and Faith: Stephen Barr</title>
      <description>We talk with Professor Stephen Barr about his work in high energy physics, and the possibilities of living a life that mixes scientific rigor with Christian faith
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      <pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2019 20:32:35 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Physics and Faith: Stephen Barr</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/1ebcc582-0fb9-11ea-9490-ffe9224a9c7f/image/uploads_2F1574709834734-f5j86p5kgf-b69cb7e120f23800e54f8bf538b55df7_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk with Professor Stephen Barr about his work in high energy physics, and the possibilities of living a life that mixes scientific rigor with Christian faith</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We talk with Professor Stephen Barr about his work in high energy physics, and the possibilities of living a life that mixes scientific rigor with Christian faith
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We talk with Professor Stephen Barr about his work in high energy physics, and the possibilities of living a life that mixes scientific rigor with Christian faith</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3440</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1928 - Live from Southwestern College</title>
      <description>We go on the road to Southwestern College in Kansas to record a live conversation with philosopher Jacob Goodson and theologian Jackson Lashier
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      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Nov 2019 17:36:21 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Live from Southwestern College</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/47089bee-04a9-11ea-bab8-875533a75f0d/image/uploads_2F1573493575828-h0tf0xh12ob-dbc27d9724a049bd148ad66f37ec45de_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We go on the road to Southwestern College in Kansas to record a live conversation with philosopher Jacob Goodson and theologian Jackson Lashier</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We go on the road to Southwestern College in Kansas to record a live conversation with philosopher Jacob Goodson and theologian Jackson Lashier
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We go on the road to Southwestern College in Kansas to record a live conversation with philosopher Jacob Goodson and theologian Jackson Lashier</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3255</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1927 - On the Road with Saint Augustine: James K.A. Smith</title>
      <description>Our guest, philosopher James K.A. Smith, takes us on a guided tour of the (surprisingly relevant) thought of Saint Augustine
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      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Nov 2019 23:14:13 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>On the Road with Saint Augustine: James K.A. Smith</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/e6961508-ff57-11e9-89f7-53e6a750e678/image/uploads_2F1572908443612-xkb73jjxjkk-f633e5a6129c7867eade7f6408ae18bc_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, philosopher James K.A. Smith, takes us on a guided tour of the (surprisingly relevant) thought of Saint Augustine</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, philosopher James K.A. Smith, takes us on a guided tour of the (surprisingly relevant) thought of Saint Augustine
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, philosopher James K.A. Smith, takes us on a guided tour of the (surprisingly relevant) thought of Saint Augustine</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3316</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#1926 - Radical Solidarity: Jeremy Courtney</title>
      <description>Jeremy Courtney moved with his family to the Middle East to be a missionary. A prayerful moment transformed him into a neighbor. We talk about his experiences with the international nonprofit her helped found, The Preemptive Love Coalition
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      <pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2019 23:46:59 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Radical Solidarity: Jeremy Courtney</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/82751420-f9da-11e9-a168-6b8d0a494ccd/image/uploads_2F1572305098556-2bqpdquse1e-e9b7807056561b14d98d6ff1155737e4_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Jeremy Courtney moved with his family to the Middle East to be a missionary. A prayerful moment transformed him into a neighbor. We talk about his experiences with the international nonprofit her helped found, The Preemptive Love Coalition</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Jeremy Courtney moved with his family to the Middle East to be a missionary. A prayerful moment transformed him into a neighbor. We talk about his experiences with the international nonprofit her helped found, The Preemptive Love Coalition
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Jeremy Courtney moved with his family to the Middle East to be a missionary. A prayerful moment transformed him into a neighbor. We talk about his experiences with the international nonprofit her helped found, The Preemptive Love Coalition</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3685</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#1925 - New frontiers in theological anthropology: Fr. Daniel P. Horan</title>
      <description>Fr. Horan returns to the show to discuss his recent book, Catholicity and Emerging Personhood
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      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Oct 2019 19:52:05 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>New frontiers in theological anthropology: Fr. Daniel P. Horan</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7d281368-f43b-11e9-b2e1-27fc7caaa183/image/uploads_2F1571687066117-btzkh48twct-eecd46eef2b7ec888256abb20d7014cc_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Fr. Horan returns to the show to discuss his recent book, Catholicity and Emerging Personhood</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Fr. Horan returns to the show to discuss his recent book, Catholicity and Emerging Personhood
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Fr. Horan returns to the show to discuss his recent book, Catholicity and Emerging Personhood</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3164</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1924 - The Legacy of Ida B. Wells: Rev. Nibs Stroupe</title>
      <description>We talk with long-time civil rights activist Rev. Nibs Stroupe about the life and legacy of Ida B. Wells
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2019 20:34:02 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Legacy of Ida B. Wells: Rev. Nibs Stroupe</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/938716e6-ef8a-11e9-9a49-93e3b6394575/image/uploads_2F1571171281024-o1h38zvneii-f47283329fa240ca22d09dec22392b7e_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk with long-time civil rights activist Rev. Nibs Stroupe about the life and legacy of Ida B. Wells</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We talk with long-time civil rights activist Rev. Nibs Stroupe about the life and legacy of Ida B. Wells
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We talk with long-time civil rights activist Rev. Nibs Stroupe about the life and legacy of Ida B. Wells</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3004</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1830b - The Whole of the Gospel: Shawn Casselberry [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Our guest Shawn Casselberry talks about his new book, Soul Force: Seven Pivots Towards Courage, Community, and Change, co-authored with Reesheda Graham-Washington.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2019 19:00:48 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Whole of the Gospel: Shawn Casselberry [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/86bf1220-e930-11e9-95cc-3bb60c2cb4fb/image/uploads_2F1570472930554-p6rh1gcwny-ec1fc4cedf0db2993dfe550db23c1c42_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Shawn Casselberry talks about his new book, Soul Force: Seven Pivots Towards Courage, Community, and Change, co-authored with Reesheda Graham-Washington.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Shawn Casselberry talks about his new book, Soul Force: Seven Pivots Towards Courage, Community, and Change, co-authored with Reesheda Graham-Washington.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Shawn Casselberry talks about his new book, Soul Force: Seven Pivots Towards Courage, Community, and Change, co-authored with Reesheda Graham-Washington.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2988</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1923 - The Magnetic Strangeness of Mister Rogers: Shea Tuttle</title>
      <description>Our guest Shea Tuttle discusses her recent book Exactly As You Are, which looks at the faith of Mister Rogers.
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      <pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2019 00:34:01 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>he Magnetic Strangeness of Mister Rogers: Shea Tuttle</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/594f4792-e705-11e9-b01f-23cb3e9c203d/image/uploads_2F1570234576090-h7onvkxz4cu-000006183f5ba29bf52ed0a4a4deb85b_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Shea Tuttle discusses her recent book Exactly As You Are, which looks at the faith of Mister Rogers.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Shea Tuttle discusses her recent book Exactly As You Are, which looks at the faith of Mister Rogers.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Shea Tuttle discusses her recent book Exactly As You Are, which looks at the faith of Mister Rogers.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3004</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1814b - From Warriors to Elders: John J. Fontana [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>John Fontana has a vision to transform today's retiring executives into tomorrow's nonprofit leaders. He's using Ignatius Loyola's spiritual exercises to do it.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 30 Sep 2019 22:48:48 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>From Warriors to Elders: John J. Fontana [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/c5637538-e3d2-11e9-ab5c-0f7e175eb3cd/image/uploads_2F1569882997320-t0gl0197ww-061f2b279fc346fff012c7969933250c_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>John Fontana has a vision to transform today's retiring executives into tomorrow's nonprofit leaders. He's using Ignatius Loyola's spiritual exercises to do it.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>John Fontana has a vision to transform today's retiring executives into tomorrow's nonprofit leaders. He's using Ignatius Loyola's spiritual exercises to do it.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>John Fontana has a vision to transform today's retiring executives into tomorrow's nonprofit leaders. He's using Ignatius Loyola's spiritual exercises to do it.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3004</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1922 - Defending religious liberties: Asma Uddin</title>
      <description>We speak with Asma Uddin, an attorney who worked on the Hobby Lobby case, about her recent book, When Islam Is Not a Religion
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      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Sep 2019 13:54:27 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Defending religious liberties: Asma Uddin</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/952966b2-d7bf-11e9-920e-631e62531540/image/uploads_2F1568555640165-bqfqhc0xfk7-0181bda942258ffffc9664c1a1111dc1_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak with Asma Uddin, an attorney who worked on the Hobby Lobby case, about her recent book, When Islam Is Not a Religion</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We speak with Asma Uddin, an attorney who worked on the Hobby Lobby case, about her recent book, When Islam Is Not a Religion
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We speak with Asma Uddin, an attorney who worked on the Hobby Lobby case, about her recent book, <em>When Islam Is Not a Religion</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3005</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1832b - Welcoming the many voices of the Bible: Robert Williamson, Jr (Rebroadcast)</title>
      <description>We revisit last year's conversation with Hendrix College professor Robert Williamson, Jr, about his recent book, The Forgotten Books of the Bible
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      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Sep 2019 13:43:03 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Welcoming the many voices of the Bible: Robert Williamson, Jr (Rebroadcast)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/9896d3ae-d7bd-11e9-b528-e3028808b440/image/uploads_2F1568554458881-00ber2omozuon-59e8357ab4d52cd75437e7249b821eaa_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit last year's conversation with Hendrix College professor Robert Williamson, Jr, about his recent book, The Forgotten Books of the Bible</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit last year's conversation with Hendrix College professor Robert Williamson, Jr, about his recent book, The Forgotten Books of the Bible
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit last year's conversation with Hendrix College professor Robert Williamson, Jr, about his recent book, The Forgotten Books of the Bible</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2984</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1916 - Pray as you can, not as you can't: Carl McColman</title>
      <description>We welcome Carl McColman back to the program to discuss his recent book, Unteachable Lessons: Why Wisdom Can't Be Taught (And Why That's Okay)
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      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2019 20:06:09 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Pray as you can, not as you can't: Carl McColman</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/ef7da9e6-ce84-11e9-b68a-239e29523035/image/uploads_2F1567540602541-gdg7tgp6d79-3a9b5dce890fe8ebb7c56d2900ddf32e_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We welcome Carl McColman back to the program to discuss his recent book, Unteachable Lessons: Why Wisdom Can't Be Taught (And Why That's Okay)</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We welcome Carl McColman back to the program to discuss his recent book, Unteachable Lessons: Why Wisdom Can't Be Taught (And Why That's Okay)
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We welcome Carl McColman back to the program to discuss his recent book, Unteachable Lessons: Why Wisdom Can't Be Taught (And Why That's Okay)</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2990</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1921 - Reading Romans Backwards: Scot McKnight</title>
      <description>Northern Seminary professor Scot McKnight invites us to look at a cornerstone of the Christian faith in a new way, with his recent book Reading Romans Backwards.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2019 13:48:49 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Reading Romans Backwards: Scot McKnight</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/ca1d6d92-ca62-11e9-9216-df2aa96fa5cf/image/uploads_2F1567086000547-ubdaucebqni-84fe999f4bb237d07f05d833870da049_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Northern Seminary professor Scot McKnight invites us to look at a cornerstone of the Christian faith in a new way, with his recent book Reading Romans Backwards.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Northern Seminary professor Scot McKnight invites us to look at a cornerstone of the Christian faith in a new way, with his recent book Reading Romans Backwards.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Northern Seminary professor Scot McKnight invites us to look at a cornerstone of the Christian faith in a new way, with his recent book Reading Romans Backwards.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3002</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1920 - A Global Network of Hope: Joelle Birge</title>
      <description>Our guest Joelle Birge talks to us about the work of Missio Invest, a global Catholic network of lenders and agricultural entrepreneurs, who are transforming the landscape of Africa for a sustainable future
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      <pubDate>Mon, 12 Aug 2019 19:39:51 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Global Network of Hope: Joelle Birge</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Joelle Birge talks to us about the work of Missio Invest, a global Catholic network of lenders and agricultural entrepreneurs</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Joelle Birge talks to us about the work of Missio Invest, a global Catholic network of lenders and agricultural entrepreneurs, who are transforming the landscape of Africa for a sustainable future
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Joelle Birge talks to us about the work of Missio Invest, a global Catholic network of lenders and agricultural entrepreneurs, who are transforming the landscape of Africa for a sustainable future</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2990</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#1831b - Evangelicals and the Trump Presidency: John Fea Live (Rebroadcast)</title>
      <description>David Dault speaks to historian John Fea in a live interview at Chicago's Seminary Co-op Bookstore
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      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Aug 2019 01:41:38 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Evangelicals and the Trump Presidency: John Fea Live (Rebroadcast)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>David Dault speaks to historian John Fea in a live interview at Chicago's Seminary Co-op Bookstore</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>David Dault speaks to historian John Fea in a live interview at Chicago's Seminary Co-op Bookstore
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>David Dault speaks to historian John Fea in a live interview at Chicago's Seminary Co-op Bookstore</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3004</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#1919 - Addiction Nation: Timothy McMahan King</title>
      <description>Ten years ago, a medical misadventure left Timothy McMahan King addicted to painkillers. Our conversation is an honest look at this long path to recovery, and what it taught him about the problems around addiction in America
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      <pubDate>Sun, 28 Jul 2019 15:21:39 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Addiction Nation: Timothy McMahan King</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/d1ef906c-b14a-11e9-81a8-4ba548add850/image/uploads_2F1564327005305-0b7zpa46r8ao-d59e73c144045a6b3091c9f5b3120b83_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>A medical misadventure left Timothy McMahan King addicted to painkillers. Our conversation is an honest look at this long path to recovery, and what it taught him about the problems around addiction in America</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Ten years ago, a medical misadventure left Timothy McMahan King addicted to painkillers. Our conversation is an honest look at this long path to recovery, and what it taught him about the problems around addiction in America
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Ten years ago, a medical misadventure left Timothy McMahan King addicted to painkillers. Our conversation is an honest look at this long path to recovery, and what it taught him about the problems around addiction in America</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2990</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#1918 - Remembering the Chicago Race Riot of 1919: Claire Hartfield</title>
      <description>In July 1919, racial and economic tensions exploded for a week in Chicago, leaving dozens dead. A century later, we talk about lessons learned and yet unlearned with Claire Hartfield, author of A Few Red Drops
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      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Jul 2019 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Remembering the Chicago Race Riot of 1919: Claire Hartfield</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/e5f77996-a978-11e9-aaa5-37326e57be77/image/uploads_2F1563467224300-2o07v9fg5f1-90f2b790599685ffa1eb69418ed626d7_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In July 1919, racial and economic tensions exploded for a week in Chicago, leaving dozens dead. A century later, we talk about lessons learned and yet unlearned with Claire Hartfield, author of A Few Red Drops</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In July 1919, racial and economic tensions exploded for a week in Chicago, leaving dozens dead. A century later, we talk about lessons learned and yet unlearned with Claire Hartfield, author of A Few Red Drops
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In July 1919, racial and economic tensions exploded for a week in Chicago, leaving dozens dead. A century later, we talk about lessons learned and yet unlearned with Claire Hartfield, author of A Few Red Drops</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3002</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1917 - In Search of Morally Serious Persons: David Dark</title>
      <description>David Dark talks about his recent book, The Possibility of America: How the Gospel Can Mend Our God-Blessed, God-Forsaken Land.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 14 Jul 2019 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>In Search of Morally Serious Persons: David Dark</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/ebbbd22c-a514-11e9-a111-ff33d749ddf9/image/uploads_2F1563124564685-sz8u9s6uins-b36e85d2ee1bbc0d47b429d26c1301a2_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>David Dark talks about his recent book, The Possibility of America: How the Gospel Can Mend Our God-Blessed, God-Forsaken Land</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>David Dark talks about his recent book, The Possibility of America: How the Gospel Can Mend Our God-Blessed, God-Forsaken Land.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>David Dark talks about his recent book, The Possibility of America: How the Gospel Can Mend Our God-Blessed, God-Forsaken Land.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3001</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1915 - Music that Matches Our Souls: Henry Carrigan</title>
      <description>Musician and music journalist Henry Carrigan has put together a wonderful reflection on Gospel music in his recent book, Fifteen Spirituals That Will Change Your Life
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      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jul 2019 21:22:02 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Music that Matches Our Souls: Henry L. Carrigan, Jr.</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/5dcc3fea-a421-11e9-a4c6-bf9bf5c6f3eb/image/uploads_2F1562879743895-z41r3xtd4ol-319c85ec5449c02a30f8ae77b7f141e6_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Musician and music journalist Henry Carrigan has put together a wonderful reflection on Gospel music in his recent book, Fifteen Spirituals That Will Change Your Life</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Musician and music journalist Henry Carrigan has put together a wonderful reflection on Gospel music in his recent book, Fifteen Spirituals That Will Change Your Life
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Musician and music journalist Henry Carrigan has put together a wonderful reflection on Gospel music in his recent book, Fifteen Spirituals That Will Change Your Life</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2988</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1825b - Full Steam Ahead: Zach Mills on the Legacy of Rev. Clay Evans [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Zach Mills discusses his biography The Last Blues Preacher, about the life and legacy of civil rights leader and gospel singer Rev. Clay Evans. In June 2019, the book won an award for Best Biography at the International Book Awards.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jul 2019 16:00:10 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Full Steam Ahead: Zach Mills on the Legacy of Rev. Clay Evans [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/46d78c5e-a3f4-11e9-addc-073710c9e5e2/image/uploads_2F1562860293668-tbcokvleb5-09c75892aac429db0fd2b2454fe8e6fa_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Zach Mills discusses his biography The Last Blues Preacher, about the life and legacy of civil rights leader and gospel singer Rev. Clay Evans</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Zach Mills discusses his biography The Last Blues Preacher, about the life and legacy of civil rights leader and gospel singer Rev. Clay Evans. In June 2019, the book won an award for Best Biography at the International Book Awards.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Zach Mills discusses his biography The Last Blues Preacher, about the life and legacy of civil rights leader and gospel singer Rev. Clay Evans. In June 2019, the book won an award for Best Biography at the International Book Awards.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2989</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1914 - Losing our need to find ourselves: David Zahl</title>
      <description>David Zahl's recent book, Seculosity, is a reminder that our constantly busy lives are not necessarily the "life of abundance" that Jesus promised to believers. 
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      <pubDate>Thu, 11 Jul 2019 14:46:59 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Losing our need to find ourselves: David Zahl</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/5011a55c-a3ea-11e9-9fcb-e7fde93afc62/image/uploads_2F1562856230947-mynmkhoo49-d07b8e988d3b2925f107308c30771a41_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>David Zahl's recent book, Seculosity, is a reminder that our constantly busy lives are not necessarily the "life of abundance" that Jesus promised to believers. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>David Zahl's recent book, Seculosity, is a reminder that our constantly busy lives are not necessarily the "life of abundance" that Jesus promised to believers. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>David Zahl's recent book, <em>Seculosity</em>, is a reminder that our constantly busy lives are not necessarily the "life of abundance" that Jesus promised to believers. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3000</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#1913 - Deep Roots of Faith: Dr. Matthew Sleeth</title>
      <description>A former emergency room physician, Dr. Matthew Sleeth resigned from his position as chief of the medical staff and director of the ER to teach, preach, and write about faith and the environment.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Jun 2019 21:04:48 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Deep Roots of Faith: Dr. Matthew Sleeth</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/46ef2a86-98db-11e9-a647-eb2464b27758/image/uploads_2F1561640277095-yrr6m0vtkre-9e94626ae92c7c86d08f07c16a3d8e7b_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>A former emergency room physician, Dr. Matthew Sleeth resigned from his position as chief of the medical staff and director of the ER to teach, preach, and write about faith and the environment.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>A former emergency room physician, Dr. Matthew Sleeth resigned from his position as chief of the medical staff and director of the ER to teach, preach, and write about faith and the environment.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>A former emergency room physician, Dr. Matthew Sleeth resigned from his position as chief of the medical staff and director of the ER to teach, preach, and write about faith and the environment.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3000</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#1912 - The Patient is the Expert: Deborah Watson</title>
      <description>Our guest, Deborah Watson of Loyola University Chicago's Institute of Pastoral Studies, brings a global perspective to her work as a professor of pastoral counseling.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Jun 2019 19:08:48 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Patient is the Expert: Deborah Watson</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/a9c475d4-8bb2-11e9-b2b9-4b1185ab697c/image/uploads_2F1560193460478-fh5qv9j1z86-0830ac64c33757c9a2c9f4c0c1725212_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Deborah Watson of Loyola University Chicago's Institute of Pastoral Studies, brings a global perspective to her work as a professor of pastoral counseling.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Deborah Watson of Loyola University Chicago's Institute of Pastoral Studies, brings a global perspective to her work as a professor of pastoral counseling.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Deborah Watson of Loyola University Chicago's Institute of Pastoral Studies, brings a global perspective to her work as a professor of pastoral counseling.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2990</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1911 - Thumbprints of Hope, Footsteps of Joy: Belinda Bauman</title>
      <description>Belinda Bauman has traveled the world to raise awareness about violence against women. In this candid conversation, she discusses her recent book, Brave Souls: Experiencing the Audacious Power of Empathy
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2019 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Thumbprints of Hope, Footsteps of Joy: Belinda Bauman</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/265bc746-7f7e-11e9-93f9-cba270c6f872/image/uploads_2F1558850853453-wdb6pjpavv-c2dc11ab6be3f7ffc63956728837f505_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Belinda Bauman has traveled the world to raise awareness about violence against women. In this candid conversation, she discusses her recent book, Brave Souls: Experiencing the Audacious Power of Empathy</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Belinda Bauman has traveled the world to raise awareness about violence against women. In this candid conversation, she discusses her recent book, Brave Souls: Experiencing the Audacious Power of Empathy
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Belinda Bauman has traveled the world to raise awareness about violence against women. In this candid conversation, she discusses her recent book, Brave Souls: Experiencing the Audacious Power of Empathy</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3900</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1910 - Mapping Moral Landscapes: Zachary Moon</title>
      <description>Professor Zachary Moon takes us on his journey from pacifism to military chaplaincy, as he tells us about his recent book, Warriors Between Worlds: Moral Injury and Identities in Crisis
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      <pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2019 18:09:09 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Mapping Moral Landscapes: Zachary Moon</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/916cd014-7bf2-11e9-985f-ffefe2d41226/image/uploads_2F1558461670297-pe49izhb14-58f7f2174ed89c6f75c8e8a2318bad97_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Professor Zachary Moon takes us on his journey from pacifism to military chaplaincy, as he tells us about his recent book, Warriors Between Worlds: Moral Injury and Identities in Crisis</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Professor Zachary Moon takes us on his journey from pacifism to military chaplaincy, as he tells us about his recent book, Warriors Between Worlds: Moral Injury and Identities in Crisis
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Professor Zachary Moon takes us on his journey from pacifism to military chaplaincy, as he tells us about his recent book, Warriors Between Worlds: Moral Injury and Identities in Crisis</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3126</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#1909 - The Return of the Christian Left: Amy Sullivan</title>
      <description>We talk with journalist Amy Sullivan about the return (or perhaps the rebirth) of the Christian Left in America. Sullivan is the co-host of the Impolite Company podcast, and the author of the 2008 book The Party Faithful: How and Why the Democrats are Closing the God Gap
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      <pubDate>Mon, 13 May 2019 18:24:20 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Return of the Christian Left: Amy Sullivan</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/d9ac1ec2-75ab-11e9-acac-ebaeb60fc6cf/image/uploads_2F1557769428521-wo63wcu7bg-560a44d063ca0442c540cee408628838_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk with journalist Amy Sullivan about the return (or perhaps the rebirth) of the Christian Left in America.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We talk with journalist Amy Sullivan about the return (or perhaps the rebirth) of the Christian Left in America. Sullivan is the co-host of the Impolite Company podcast, and the author of the 2008 book The Party Faithful: How and Why the Democrats are Closing the God Gap
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We talk with journalist Amy Sullivan about the return (or perhaps the rebirth) of the Christian Left in America. Sullivan is the co-host of the Impolite Company podcast, and the author of the 2008 book The Party Faithful: How and Why the Democrats are Closing the God Gap</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2989</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#1908 - A Heart for Haiti: Josh Goralski</title>
      <description>When he was eight, Josh Goralski's family was visited by a Catholic priest from Haiti. This started a lifelong connection that led to the founding of a new nonprofit, Unlocking Communities
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      <pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2019 20:14:40 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Heart for Haiti: Josh Goralski</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/223eadc4-703b-11e9-9c70-ffbfe15b86d8/image/uploads_2F1557173407663-1nuuwmopqh7-2881fd7aca0ffc3931802ebf9069f2d9_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>When he was eight, Josh Goralski's family was visited by a Catholic priest from Haiti. This started a lifelong connection that led to the founding of a new nonprofit, Unlocking Communities</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>When he was eight, Josh Goralski's family was visited by a Catholic priest from Haiti. This started a lifelong connection that led to the founding of a new nonprofit, Unlocking Communities
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>When he was eight, Josh Goralski's family was visited by a Catholic priest from Haiti. This started a lifelong connection that led to the founding of a new nonprofit, Unlocking Communities</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3000</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#1820b - Radical Gratitude: Diana Butler Bass [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Our guest, Diana Butler Bass, returns to the show to discuss her new book, Grateful: The Transformative Power of Giving Thanks. The book has just been released in paperback
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      <pubDate>Fri, 03 May 2019 03:55:53 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Radical Gratitude: Diana Butler Bass [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/98cf4d16-6d13-11e9-9c63-b7d9fd6ba04b/image/uploads_2F1556826516815-sl3jislahwm-699ba0f0ad94d5c43081235635264ce4_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Diana Butler Bass, returns to the show to discuss her new book, Grateful: The Transformative Power of Giving Thanks</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Diana Butler Bass, returns to the show to discuss her new book, Grateful: The Transformative Power of Giving Thanks. The book has just been released in paperback
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Diana Butler Bass, returns to the show to discuss her new book, Grateful: The Transformative Power of Giving Thanks. The book has just been released in paperback</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3065</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#1819 - Neighborly Faith: Chris Stackaruk and Kevin Singer</title>
      <description>Chris Stackaruk and Kevin Singer founded Neighborly Faith to equip Evangelicals to love people of all faiths.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2019 02:21:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Neighborly Faith: Chris Stackaruk and Kevin Singer</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/8312713a-5f24-11e9-9930-8baca9107345/image/uploads_2F1555294485425-hzw6utfp4gm-4cd4310c1468f2a037524d36f00f4e82_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Chris Stackaruk and Kevin Singer founded Neighborly Faith to equip Evangelicals to love people of all faiths.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Chris Stackaruk and Kevin Singer founded Neighborly Faith to equip Evangelicals to love people of all faiths.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Chris Stackaruk and Kevin Singer founded Neighborly Faith to equip Evangelicals to love people of all faiths.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3003</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1907 - New ways of expressing an old and familiar love: Barbara Brown Taylor</title>
      <description>We talk with NYT bestselling author Barbara Brown Taylor about her recent book, Holy Envy
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      <pubDate>Sun, 07 Apr 2019 17:10:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>New ways of expressing an old and familiar love: Barbara Brown Taylor</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/51ffbfda-5957-11e9-baf7-5f525e30b432/image/uploads_2F1554656624689-yrotnmzvtr-69efa7a1e68fe0fe4450434b86478ec1_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk with NYT bestselling author Barbara Brown Taylor about her recent book, Holy Envy</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We talk with NYT bestselling author Barbara Brown Taylor about her recent book, Holy Envy
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We talk with NYT bestselling author Barbara Brown Taylor about her recent book, Holy Envy</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3000</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[51ffbfda-5957-11e9-baf7-5f525e30b432]]></guid>
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      <title>#1906 - The Beautiful Thread: Carrie Newcomer</title>
      <description>We talk with award-winning singer-songwriter Carrie Newcomer about her work, and her new album, The Point of Arrival
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      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 01:43:50 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Beautiful Thread: Carrie Newcomer</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/bb96a140-541e-11e9-97fe-e37ea3f7d794/image/uploads_2F1554082468977-zjucljdx3-e10aca1b7d6d8af05afe6c57de364aa8_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk with award-winning singer-songwriter Carrie Newcomer about her work, and her new album, The Point of Arrival</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We talk with award-winning singer-songwriter Carrie Newcomer about her work, and her new album, The Point of Arrival
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We talk with award-winning singer-songwriter Carrie Newcomer about her work, and her new album, The Point of Arrival</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2990</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[bb96a140-541e-11e9-97fe-e37ea3f7d794]]></guid>
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      <title>#1904 - The Power of Pilgrimage: William Schmidt</title>
      <description>William Schmidt, of Loyola Chicago's Institute for Pastoral Studies, weaves together psychology and spirituality in his work with students and patients. He sees healing as a journey, and uses both spiritual and actual pilgrimages as part of his work.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 31 Mar 2019 00:15:42 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Power of Pilgrimage: William Schmidt</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2b1b0ccc-5348-11e9-8cd4-9bd7a10996fd/image/uploads_2F1553990286213-0liu59o7yrr-709962433453c6f5e06e4f108bfde712_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>William Schmidt, of Loyola Chicago's Institute for Pastoral Studies, weaves together psychology and spirituality in his work with students and patients. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>William Schmidt, of Loyola Chicago's Institute for Pastoral Studies, weaves together psychology and spirituality in his work with students and patients. He sees healing as a journey, and uses both spiritual and actual pilgrimages as part of his work.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>William Schmidt, of Loyola Chicago's Institute for Pastoral Studies, weaves together psychology and spirituality in his work with students and patients. He sees healing as a journey, and uses both spiritual and actual pilgrimages as part of his work.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2990</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1905 - Rethinking Wonder: Lisa Sideris</title>
      <description>We talk with Indiana University professor Lisa Sideris about her recent book, Consecrating Science: Wonder, Knowledge, and the Natural World
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      <pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2019 03:50:02 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Rethinking Wonder: Lisa Sideris</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7b716d12-48fb-11e9-9593-7bb0386df186/image/uploads_2F1552857876438-2o3z0q8ehtt-3b467f98a7b51c86793d30eac43c2d6a_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk with Indiana University professor Lisa Sideris about her book, Consecrating Science</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We talk with Indiana University professor Lisa Sideris about her recent book, Consecrating Science: Wonder, Knowledge, and the Natural World
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We talk with Indiana University professor Lisa Sideris about her recent book, <em>Consecrating Science: Wonder, Knowledge, and the Natural World</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3060</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1817 - Auden, the Psalms, and Me: J. Chester Johnson</title>
      <description>Poet J. Chester Johnson helped with an English translation of the Psalms for the Book of Common Prayer, following in the footsteps of W.H. Auden
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      <pubDate>Thu, 14 Mar 2019 05:26:33 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Auden, the Psalms, and Me: J. Chester Johnson</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/3b07f352-4619-11e9-8e53-07c6bf101d74/image/uploads_2F1552540925704-eqdcqxkk2k-524b68c6e94a1d52f6d294440c66f59f_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Poet J. Chester Johnson helped with an English translation of the Psalms for the Book of Common Prayer, following in the footsteps of W.H. Auden</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Poet J. Chester Johnson helped with an English translation of the Psalms for the Book of Common Prayer, following in the footsteps of W.H. Auden
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Poet J. Chester Johnson helped with an English translation of the Psalms for the Book of Common Prayer, following in the footsteps of W.H. Auden</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2990</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[3b07f352-4619-11e9-8e53-07c6bf101d74]]></guid>
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      <title>#1902 - The Bible and the Klan: Dr. Kelly J. Baker</title>
      <description>We welcome back Dr. Kelly J. Baker to talk about her book Gospel According to the Klan
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      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2019 21:01:55 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Bible and the Klan: Dr. Kelly J. Baker</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/3d9f2b84-4052-11e9-89fe-b3bd87fc8625/image/uploads_2F1551905603476-g18b70zwst8-f7ddba784c19f5387a615f3c48b6ef5b_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We welcome back Dr. Kelly J. Baker to talk about her book Gospel According to the Klan</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We welcome back Dr. Kelly J. Baker to talk about her book Gospel According to the Klan
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We welcome back Dr. Kelly J. Baker to talk about her book <em>Gospel According to the Klan</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3002</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1901 - Imagining the World of Second Temple Judaism: Dr. Malka Simkovich</title>
      <description>We speak with Dr. Malka Z. Simkovich of Catholic Theological Union in Chicago about her recent book, Discovering Second Temple Literature: The Scriptures and Stories That Shaped Early Judaism
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      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2019 04:18:21 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Imagining the World of Second Temple Judaism: Dr. Malka Simkovich</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/55fc19c6-3b11-11e9-a78d-837d97384998/image/uploads_2F1551328112444-rg5busjxyxb-37329c1d559589cf28bddc556122ed21_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak with Dr. Malka Z. Simkovich of Catholic Theological Union in Chicago about her recent book, Discovering Second Temple Literature: The Scriptures and Stories That Shaped Early Judaism</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We speak with Dr. Malka Z. Simkovich of Catholic Theological Union in Chicago about her recent book, Discovering Second Temple Literature: The Scriptures and Stories That Shaped Early Judaism
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We speak with Dr. Malka Z. Simkovich of Catholic Theological Union in Chicago about her recent book, <em>Discovering Second Temple Literature: The Scriptures and Stories That Shaped Early Judaism</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2870</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1836 - The Church's Hip-Hop Mission: Daniel White Hodge</title>
      <description>We talk with Daniel White Hodge about his recent book, Homeland Insecurity
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      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2019 23:09:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Church's Hip-Hop Mission: Daniel White Hodge</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/135ab8f4-349d-11e9-9733-1b20a5487967/image/uploads_2F1550618468683-lyyg7c11oy-b47dfcbd2e494456ea147219d9a91aeb_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk with Daniel White Hodge about his recent book, Homeland Insecurity</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We talk with Daniel White Hodge about his recent book, Homeland Insecurity
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        <![CDATA[<p>We talk with Daniel White Hodge about his recent book, Homeland Insecurity</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2990</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1903 - Integrity Without Limits: Stuart Brody</title>
      <description>We talk with Stuart Brody about his new book about ethical behavior, The Law of Small Things
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      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2019 05:10:58 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Integrity without Limits: Stuart Brody</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/4f0f0216-2db7-11e9-a1bd-2fb033063f8c/image/uploads_2F1549859968711-6kv5cyc003x-86cfab4c3144b211a22fdb7f26299d50_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk with Stuart Brody about his new book about ethical behavior, The Law of Small Things</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We talk with Stuart Brody about his new book about ethical behavior, The Law of Small Things
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We talk with Stuart Brody about his new book about ethical behavior, The Law of Small Things</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3045</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1835 - Dedicated to God's Peace: Bishop Emeritus Kumara Illangasinghe</title>
      <description>Bishop Emeritus Kumara Illangasinghe was Sri Lanka’s ambassador to the Parliament of the World's Religions. Today, he heads OMNIA’s Interfaith Peacemaker Initiative in Sri Lanka.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2019 04:35:34 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title> Dedicated to God's Peace: Bishop Emeritus Kumara Illangasinghe</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/a6d726ac-17b6-11e9-9ded-0704a71722bb/image/uploads_2F1547440870213-kj7duza0b6a-0bee28ac4bd1893d73fbd127e6e39193_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Kumara Illangasinghe works for peace and justice around the world, with a focus on his war-torn home of Sri Lanka.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Bishop Emeritus Kumara Illangasinghe was Sri Lanka’s ambassador to the Parliament of the World's Religions. Today, he heads OMNIA’s Interfaith Peacemaker Initiative in Sri Lanka.
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Bishop Emeritus Kumara Illangasinghe was Sri Lanka’s ambassador to the Parliament of the World's Religions. Today, he heads OMNIA’s Interfaith Peacemaker Initiative in Sri Lanka.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2981</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1814b - From Warriors to Elders: John J. Fontana [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>John Fontana has a vision to transform today's retiring executives into tomorrow's nonprofit leaders. He's using Ignatius Loyola's spiritual exercises to do it.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2019 03:48:10 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>From Warriors to Elders: John J. Fontana [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/080b3c3a-17b0-11e9-a687-4b7fd50b123a/image/uploads_2F1547437936539-fmxgu0r29b-16ebcfc3f189ae429149f50c40dc4ee9_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>John Fontana has a vision to transform today's retiring executives into tomorrow's nonprofit leaders. He's using Ignatius Loyola's spiritual exercises to do it.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>John Fontana has a vision to transform today's retiring executives into tomorrow's nonprofit leaders. He's using Ignatius Loyola's spiritual exercises to do it.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>John Fontana has a vision to transform today's retiring executives into tomorrow's nonprofit leaders. He's using Ignatius Loyola's spiritual exercises to do it.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2900</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1825 - Full Steam Ahead: Zach Mills on the Legacy of Rev. Clay Evans [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Zach Mills discusses his biography The Last Blues Preacher, about the life and legacy of civil rights leader and gospel singer Rev. Clay Evans
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      <pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2018 02:36:31 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Full Steam Ahead: Zach Mills on the Legacy of Rev. Clay Evans [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/13c1db5e-0b14-11e9-87bd-cb5ce94a992c/image/uploads_2F1546051163139-oqs79spvzz-3e88559da683a741e7451c31137a8ad6_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Zach Mills discusses his biography The Last Blues Preacher, about the life and legacy of civil rights leader and gospel singer Rev. Clay Evans</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Zach Mills discusses his biography The Last Blues Preacher, about the life and legacy of civil rights leader and gospel singer Rev. Clay Evans
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Zach Mills discusses his biography The Last Blues Preacher, about the life and legacy of civil rights leader and gospel singer Rev. Clay Evans</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2867</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1828a - Crashing thunder, gentle neighbors: Rick Lee James [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We welcome back Rick Lee James to talk about his new album, Thunder, and his twitter feed that highlights positive quotes from Mister Rogers
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      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2018 02:47:30 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Crashing thunder, gentle neighbors: Rick Lee James {Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/9e2b5c8e-0a4c-11e9-810e-1fad8655a4a7/image/uploads_2F1545965555504-vu5y380a8q7-06ae0a1dee40aefc73949faed2da5928_2FTNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We welcome back Rick Lee James to talk about his new album, Thunder, and his twitter feed that highlights positive quotes from Mister Rogers</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We welcome back Rick Lee James to talk about his new album, Thunder, and his twitter feed that highlights positive quotes from Mister Rogers
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We welcome back Rick Lee James to talk about his new album, Thunder, and his twitter feed that highlights positive quotes from Mister Rogers</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2926</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1834 - Heart Work is Hard Work: Soraya Deen</title>
      <description>In Los Angeles, Chicago, and around the world, Soraya Deen is working with women across faiths to build bridges and heal the world.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2018 03:30:22 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Heart Work is Hard Work: Soraya Deen</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/62d56a50-0338-11e9-b1d6-fb1a1512c4cc/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In Los Angeles, Chicago, and around the world, Soraya Deen is working with women across faiths to build bridges and heal the world.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In Los Angeles, Chicago, and around the world, Soraya Deen is working with women across faiths to build bridges and heal the world.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In Los Angeles, Chicago, and around the world, Soraya Deen is working with women across faiths to build bridges and heal the world.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2897</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1833 - Franciscan wisdom for a planet in peril: Fr. Dan Horan, OFM</title>
      <description>We talk with Fr. Dan Horan, OFM, about his new book, All God's Creatures. In it, he offers a fresh way to understand the role and place of humanity in the natural world.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2018 04:48:02 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Franciscan wisdom for a planet in peril: Fr. Dan Horan, OFM</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6308bf2c-0338-11e9-b1d6-4fabcb36d7c3/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk with Fr. Dan Horan, OFM, about his new book, All God's Creatures.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We talk with Fr. Dan Horan, OFM, about his new book, All God's Creatures. In it, he offers a fresh way to understand the role and place of humanity in the natural world.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We talk with Fr. Dan Horan, OFM, about his new book, All God's Creatures. In it, he offers a fresh way to understand the role and place of humanity in the natural world.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2927</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1811a - Bold Choices: MaryAnn McKibben Dana [REBROADCAST]</title>
      <description>We speak to Rev. MaryAnn McKibben Dana about her new book, God, Improv, and the Art of Living. She discusses the philosophy of improvisation and how it can inform our decisions about life and faith.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2018 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Bold Choices: MaryAnn McKibben Dana [REBROADCAST]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6341ed06-0338-11e9-b1d6-13517634e62c/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak to Rev. MaryAnn McKibben Dana about her new book, God, Improv, and the Art of Living</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We speak to Rev. MaryAnn McKibben Dana about her new book, God, Improv, and the Art of Living. She discusses the philosophy of improvisation and how it can inform our decisions about life and faith.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We speak to Rev. MaryAnn McKibben Dana about her new book, God, Improv, and the Art of Living. She discusses the philosophy of improvisation and how it can inform our decisions about life and faith.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2850</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1820a - Radical Gratitude: Diana Butler Bass [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Our guest, Diana Butler Bass, returns to the show to discuss her new book, Grateful: The Transformative Power of Giving Thanks
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      <pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2018 02:25:05 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title> Radical Gratitude: Diana Butler Bass [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/636e9a7c-0338-11e9-b1d6-d7112fae33ce/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Diana Butler Bass, returns to the show to discuss her new book, Grateful: The Transformative Power of Giving Thanks</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Diana Butler Bass, returns to the show to discuss her new book, Grateful: The Transformative Power of Giving Thanks
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Diana Butler Bass, returns to the show to discuss her new book, Grateful: The Transformative Power of Giving Thanks</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2945</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1810 - Finding Our Soul's Home: Rev. Sherry Cothran</title>
      <description>Rev. Sherry Cothran returns to Things Not Seen to talk about a new album, Kiss the Ground, and a new book, Tending Angels
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      <pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2018 02:18:50 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Finding Our Soul's Home: Rev. Sherry Cothran</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6394191e-0338-11e9-b1d6-435794b7934b/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Rev. Sherry Cothran returns to Things Not Seen to talk about a new album, Kiss the Ground, and a new book, Tending Angels</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Rev. Sherry Cothran returns to Things Not Seen to talk about a new album, Kiss the Ground, and a new book, Tending Angels
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Rev. Sherry Cothran returns to Things Not Seen to talk about a new album, Kiss the Ground, and a new book, Tending Angels</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2866</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#1831 - Evangelicals and the Trump Presidency: John Fea LIVE</title>
      <description>David Dault speaks to historian John Fea in a live interview at Chicago's Seminary Co-op Bookstore
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      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2018 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Evangelicals and the Trump Presidency: John Fea LIVE</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>David Dault speaks to historian John Fea in a live interview at Chicago's Seminary Co-op Bookstore</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>David Dault speaks to historian John Fea in a live interview at Chicago's Seminary Co-op Bookstore
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>David Dault speaks to historian John Fea in a live interview at Chicago's Seminary Co-op Bookstore</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2866</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#1805a - The World as a Classroom: Dr. Brian Schmisek [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We discuss Dr. Schmisek's book, The Rome of Peter and Paul, as well as the Institute for Pastoral Studies at Loyola University Chicago.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 14 Oct 2018 16:47:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The World as a Classroom: Dr. Brian Schmisek [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/644d15ae-0338-11e9-b1d6-2375006b688b/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We discuss Dr. Schmisek's book, The Rome of Peter and Paul, as well as the Institute for Pastoral Studies at Loyola University Chicago.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We discuss Dr. Schmisek's book, The Rome of Peter and Paul, as well as the Institute for Pastoral Studies at Loyola University Chicago.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We discuss Dr. Schmisek's book, The Rome of Peter and Paul, as well as the Institute for Pastoral Studies at Loyola University Chicago.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3064</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1830 - The Whole of the Gospel: Shawn Casselberry</title>
      <description>Our guest Shawn Casselberry talks about his new book, Soul Force: Seven Pivots Towards Courage, Community, and Change, co-authored with Reesheda Graham-Washington
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      <pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2018 16:25:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Whole of the Gospel: Shawn Casselberry</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/647bda10-0338-11e9-b1d6-6be1dd03e380/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Shawn Casselberry talks about his new co-authored book, Soul Force</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Shawn Casselberry talks about his new book, Soul Force: Seven Pivots Towards Courage, Community, and Change, co-authored with Reesheda Graham-Washington
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Shawn Casselberry talks about his new book, Soul Force: Seven Pivots Towards Courage, Community, and Change, co-authored with Reesheda Graham-Washington</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3028</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1828 - Crashing Thunder, Gentle Neighbors: Rick Lee James</title>
      <description>We welcome back Rick Lee James to talk about his new album, Thunder, and his twitter feed that highlights positive quotes from Mister Rogers
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      <pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2018 20:26:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Crashing Thunder, Gentle Neighbors: Rick Lee James</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/64a8cb10-0338-11e9-b1d6-fb5e1d1737f7/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We welcome back Rick Lee James to talk about his new album, Thunder, and his twitter feed that highlights positive quotes from Mister Rogers</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We welcome back Rick Lee James to talk about his new album, Thunder, and his twitter feed that highlights positive quotes from Mister Rogers
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We welcome back Rick Lee James to talk about his new album, Thunder, and his twitter feed that highlights positive quotes from Mister Rogers</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3091</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1807a - Forgiveness Changes Everything: Dr. timone davis [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>In this powerful interview, Loyola University professor timone davis recounts her journey from doubt and anger back to a fiery faith
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      <pubDate>Sun, 09 Sep 2018 04:07:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Forgiveness Changes Everything: Dr. timone davis [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/64cfd048-0338-11e9-b1d6-afb0a1d762d1/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this powerful interview, timone davis recounts her journey from doubt and anger back to a fiery faith</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this powerful interview, Loyola University professor timone davis recounts her journey from doubt and anger back to a fiery faith
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this powerful interview, Loyola University professor timone davis recounts her journey from doubt and anger back to a fiery faith</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3154</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1829 - Widening the Wingspan of Love: Jacqueline Bussie</title>
      <description>Our guest Dr. Jacqueline Bussie has a radical idea about how far love should go to build bridges and mend broken relationships. She talks about her journey, both the joys and the costs, with our host, David Dault.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2018 17:53:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Widening the Wingspan of Love: Jacqueline Bussie</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/64f9a3be-0338-11e9-b1d6-b3f38e53f438/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Dr. Jacqueline Bussie has a radical idea about how far love should go to build bridges and mend broken relationships. She talks about her journey, both the joys and the costs, with our host, David Dault.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Dr. Jacqueline Bussie has a radical idea about how far love should go to build bridges and mend broken relationships. She talks about her journey, both the joys and the costs, with our host, David Dault.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Dr. Jacqueline Bussie has a radical idea about how far love should go to build bridges and mend broken relationships. She talks about her journey, both the joys and the costs, with our host, David Dault.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3098</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1827 - The Catholic Road from Roe to Trump: Steven Millies</title>
      <description>Our guest Steven Milles has written a thorough account of the last hundred years of Catholic political life in America, from the margins to the mainstream to the halls of power.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2018 15:04:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Catholic Road from Roe to Trump: Steven Millies</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/653db3a6-0338-11e9-b1d6-bb7807c5cfbd/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest Steven Milles has written a thorough account of the last hundred years of Catholic political life in America, from the margins to the mainstream to the halls of power.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Steven Milles has written a thorough account of the last hundred years of Catholic political life in America, from the margins to the mainstream to the halls of power.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Steven Milles has written a thorough account of the last hundred years of Catholic political life in America, from the margins to the mainstream to the halls of power.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3032</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1826 - Sexism in Higher Education: Dr. Kelly J. Baker</title>
      <description>American culture still suffers from inequality, and academia is deeply affected. Our guest, Dr. Kelly J. Baker, has chronicled these struggles in her recent book, Sexism Ed.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2018 02:36:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Sexism in Higher Education: Dr. Kelly J. Baker</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/65680da4-0338-11e9-b1d6-031cba75e646/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>American culture still suffers from inequality, and academia is deeply affected. Our guest, Dr. Kelly J. Baker, has chronicled these struggles in her recent book, Sexism Ed.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>American culture still suffers from inequality, and academia is deeply affected. Our guest, Dr. Kelly J. Baker, has chronicled these struggles in her recent book, Sexism Ed.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>American culture still suffers from inequality, and academia is deeply affected. Our guest, Dr. Kelly J. Baker, has chronicled these struggles in her recent book, Sexism Ed.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3031</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1709a - Seeing 40 years into the future: Rev. Dr. Shanta Premawardhana</title>
      <description>The Rev. Dr. Shanta Premawardhana is helping to train leaders in contextual theology for the 21st century.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2018 22:04:52 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Seeing 40 years into the future: Rev. Dr. Shanta Premawardhana</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>17</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/659c5eec-0338-11e9-b1d6-d78fcd518574/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>The Rev. Dr. Shanta Premawardhana is helping to train leaders in contextual theology for the 21st century.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The Rev. Dr. Shanta Premawardhana is helping to train leaders in contextual theology for the 21st century.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>The Rev. Dr. Shanta Premawardhana is helping to train leaders in contextual theology for the 21st century.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2875</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1707a - International Faith Relations: Amy Lillis [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Amy Lillis is former Acting Special Representative for Religion and Global Affairs. In our conversation, we discuss why the State Department took up religion as a diplomatic issue.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2018 14:48:10 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>International Faith Relations: Amy Lillis [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>17</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/65ca3556-0338-11e9-b1d6-230aa793c45f/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Amy Lillis is former Acting Special Representative for Religion and Global Affairs. In our conversation, we discuss why the State Department took up religion as a diplomatic issue.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Amy Lillis is former Acting Special Representative for Religion and Global Affairs. In our conversation, we discuss why the State Department took up religion as a diplomatic issue.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Amy Lillis is former Acting Special Representative for Religion and Global Affairs. In our conversation, we discuss why the State Department took up religion as a diplomatic issue.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2875</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1822 - Movies are Prayers: Josh Larsen</title>
      <description>We speak to film critic and radio host Josh Larsen about his work and his recent book, Movies are Prayers
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      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2018 17:46:21 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Movies are Prayers: Josh Larsen</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/65f75ee6-0338-11e9-b1d6-cf18d34e7447/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak to film critic and radio host Josh Larsen about his work and his recent book, Movies are Prayers</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We speak to film critic and radio host Josh Larsen about his work and his recent book, Movies are Prayers
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We speak to film critic and radio host Josh Larsen about his work and his recent book, Movies are Prayers</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2870</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1825 - Full Steam Ahead: Zach Mills on the Legacy of Rev. Clay Evans</title>
      <description>Zach Mills discusses his biography The Last Blues Preacher, about the life and legacy of civil rights leader and gospel singer Rev. Clay Evans
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      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2018 17:58:46 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Full Steam Ahead: Zach Mills on the Legacy of Rev. Clay Evans</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/662c5dbc-0338-11e9-b1d6-23ba6fcac109/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Zach Mills discusses his biography The Last Blues Preacher, about the life and legacy of civil rights leader and gospel singer Rev. Clay Evans</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Zach Mills discusses his biography The Last Blues Preacher, about the life and legacy of civil rights leader and gospel singer Rev. Clay Evans
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Zach Mills discusses his biography The Last Blues Preacher, about the life and legacy of civil rights leader and gospel singer Rev. Clay Evans</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2867</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1818 - What Physics Can Teach Us: Heidi Russell</title>
      <description>Our guest, Dr. Heidi Russell, pays close attention to the discoveries of contemporary physics. In them, she finds analogies for how we can think about theology.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:57:26 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>What Physics Can Teach Us: Heidi Russell</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/66519744-0338-11e9-b1d6-f7eecbea143c/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Dr. Heidi Russell, pays close attention to the discoveries of contemporary physics. In them, she finds analogies for how we can think about theology.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Dr. Heidi Russell, pays close attention to the discoveries of contemporary physics. In them, she finds analogies for how we can think about theology.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Dr. Heidi Russell, pays close attention to the discoveries of contemporary physics. In them, she finds analogies for how we can think about theology.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2873</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1823 - The Changing Face of Religion Reporting: Manya Brachear Pashman</title>
      <description>We speak with Chicago Tribune religion reporter Manya Brachear Pashman about her career and what she has learned in 15 years on the religion beat. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2018 21:28:29 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Changing Face of Religion Reporting: Manya Brachear Pashman</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6687226a-0338-11e9-b1d6-fbd9fa49d905/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak with Chicago Tribune religion reporter Manya Brachear Pashman about her career and what she has learned in 15 years on the religion beat. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We speak with Chicago Tribune religion reporter Manya Brachear Pashman about her career and what she has learned in 15 years on the religion beat. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We speak with Chicago Tribune religion reporter Manya Brachear Pashman about her career and what she has learned in 15 years on the religion beat. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2940</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1824 - How to Live in a World Which We Don't Control: Stanley Hauerwas</title>
      <description>For 15 years, theologian Stanley Hauerwas has been writing letters to a young man about essential virtues. Now, he has shared those letters in a new book.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2018 16:00:07 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>How to Live in a World Which We Don't Control: Stanley Hauerwas</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/66eb927c-0338-11e9-b1d6-3798c6fab8b1/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>For 15 years, theologian Stanley Hauerwas has been writing letters to a young man about essential virtues. Now, he has shared those letters in a new book.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>For 15 years, theologian Stanley Hauerwas has been writing letters to a young man about essential virtues. Now, he has shared those letters in a new book.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>For 15 years, theologian Stanley Hauerwas has been writing letters to a young man about essential virtues. Now, he has shared those letters in a new book.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2866</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[2af2c25596eb4a3e92616edbafbdd979]]></guid>
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      <title>#1816 - A New Spin on Ancient Prayer: Jana Riess</title>
      <description>Our guest helped write a book on an ancient Prayer Wheel, a wonderful tool for modern spirituality, hidden for centuries in the pages of a book
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      <pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2018 20:47:38 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A New Spin on Ancient Prayer: Jana Riess</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/671861da-0338-11e9-b1d6-47002b08bec3/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest helped write a book on an ancient Prayer Wheel, a wonderful tool for modern prayer, hidden for centuries in the pages of a book</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest helped write a book on an ancient Prayer Wheel, a wonderful tool for modern spirituality, hidden for centuries in the pages of a book
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest helped write a book on an ancient Prayer Wheel, a wonderful tool for modern spirituality, hidden for centuries in the pages of a book</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2864</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[6f4a9214e89f4bfb8d38b8e186ff5ec1]]></guid>
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      <title>#1806a - The Communion of Haints: Jessica Mesman Griffith [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Jessica Mesman Griffith is a spiritual writer and curator of artistic communities for curious and wandering souls. We discuss her recent projects and events, as well as her own journey from brokenness to healing and community.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2018 02:50:43 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Communion of Haints: Jessica Mesman Griffith</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6740a442-0338-11e9-b1d6-9f1e3d8aa0ae/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our conversation with spiritual writer and artist Jessica Mesman Griffith.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Jessica Mesman Griffith is a spiritual writer and curator of artistic communities for curious and wandering souls. We discuss her recent projects and events, as well as her own journey from brokenness to healing and community.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Jessica Mesman Griffith is a spiritual writer and curator of artistic communities for curious and wandering souls. We discuss her recent projects and events, as well as her own journey from brokenness to healing and community.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2896</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1809b - To be a Vessel of God's Grace: Jean-Pierre Fortin [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We revisit an interview with Loyola University professor Jean-Pierre Fortin. We discuss his work to uncover moments of hope and grace during the atrocities of the Holocaust
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2018 18:24:12 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>To be a Vessel of God's Grace: Jean-Pierre Fortin</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6769bcec-0338-11e9-b1d6-efdb2081487a/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit an interview with Loyola University professor Jean-Pierre Fortin. We discuss his work to uncover moments of hope and grace during the atrocities of the Holocaust</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit an interview with Loyola University professor Jean-Pierre Fortin. We discuss his work to uncover moments of hope and grace during the atrocities of the Holocaust
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit an interview with Loyola University professor Jean-Pierre Fortin. We discuss his work to uncover moments of hope and grace during the atrocities of the Holocaust</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2863</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1821 - Digging for God's Water: Jordan Denari Duffner</title>
      <description>Our guest Jordan Denari Duffner found a rejuvenated connection to her Catholic faith in an unlikely place: praying alongside her Muslim friends. We discuss her new book, Finding Jesus Among Muslims: How Loving Islam Makes Me a Better Catholic
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      <pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2018 17:07:19 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Digging for God's Water: Jordan Denari Duffner</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/679442f0-0338-11e9-b1d6-170d5be811d2/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Jordan Denari Duffner found a rejuvenated connection to her Catholic faith in an unlikely place: praying alongside her Muslim friends</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest Jordan Denari Duffner found a rejuvenated connection to her Catholic faith in an unlikely place: praying alongside her Muslim friends. We discuss her new book, Finding Jesus Among Muslims: How Loving Islam Makes Me a Better Catholic
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest Jordan Denari Duffner found a rejuvenated connection to her Catholic faith in an unlikely place: praying alongside her Muslim friends. We discuss her new book, Finding Jesus Among Muslims: How Loving Islam Makes Me a Better Catholic</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2896</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1820 - Radical Gratitude: Diana Butler Bass</title>
      <description>Our guest, Diana Butler Bass, returns to the show to discuss her new book, Grateful: The Transformative Power of Giving Thanks
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      <pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2018 14:50:35 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Radical Gratitude: Diana Butler Bass</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/67caa94e-0338-11e9-b1d6-ab179d883b88/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Diana Butler Bass, returns to the show to discuss her new book, Grateful: The Transformative Power of Giving Thanks</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Diana Butler Bass, returns to the show to discuss her new book, Grateful: The Transformative Power of Giving Thanks
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Diana Butler Bass, returns to the show to discuss her new book, Grateful: The Transformative Power of Giving Thanks</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2945</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1814 - From Warriors to Elders: John J. Fontana</title>
      <description>John Fontana has a vision to transform today's retiring executives into tomorrow's nonprofit leaders. He's using Ignatius Loyola's spiritual exercises to do it.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2018 16:14:04 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>From Warriors to Elders: John J. Fontana</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/67f4f686-0338-11e9-b1d6-d324fa755f96/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>John Fontana has a vision to transform today's retiring executives into tomorrow's nonprofit leaders. He's using Ignatius Loyola's spiritual exercises to do it.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>John Fontana has a vision to transform today's retiring executives into tomorrow's nonprofit leaders. He's using Ignatius Loyola's spiritual exercises to do it.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>John Fontana has a vision to transform today's retiring executives into tomorrow's nonprofit leaders. He's using Ignatius Loyola's spiritual exercises to do it.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2900</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1813 - Remembering Thomas Merton: Robert Hudson</title>
      <description>Host David Dault talks with Merton scholar Robert Hudson about the tumultuous final years of Catholic monk Thomas Merton.

The story involves two love affairs - one with a young nurse, and the other with the music of Bob Dylan. Both deeply affected the course of Merton's life and writing.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2018 02:03:35 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Remembering Thomas Merton: Robert Hudson</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/68192f10-0338-11e9-b1d6-f784cc856885/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Host David Dault talks with Merton scholar Robert Hudson about the tumultuous final years of Catholic monk Thomas Merton</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Host David Dault talks with Merton scholar Robert Hudson about the tumultuous final years of Catholic monk Thomas Merton.

The story involves two love affairs - one with a young nurse, and the other with the music of Bob Dylan. Both deeply affected the course of Merton's life and writing.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Host David Dault talks with Merton scholar Robert Hudson about the tumultuous final years of Catholic monk Thomas Merton.

The story involves two love affairs - one with a young nurse, and the other with the music of Bob Dylan. Both deeply affected the course of Merton's life and writing.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2899</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1812 - Remembering Phyllis Tickle: Jon Sweeney</title>
      <description>We talk with Jon Sweeney about his long friendship and new biography of the late Phyllis Tickle, who helped chronicle Emergence Christianity and popularize daily prayer practices.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2018 18:30:14 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Remembering Phyllis Tickle: Jon Sweeney</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6843a68c-0338-11e9-b1d6-9b5ad22feae4/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk with Jon Sweeney about his long friendship and new biography of the late Phyllis Tickle</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We talk with Jon Sweeney about his long friendship and new biography of the late Phyllis Tickle, who helped chronicle Emergence Christianity and popularize daily prayer practices.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We talk with Jon Sweeney about his long friendship and new biography of the late Phyllis Tickle, who helped chronicle Emergence Christianity and popularize daily prayer practices.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2880</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1811 - Bold Choices: MaryAnn McKibben Dana</title>
      <description>We speak to Rev. MaryAnn McKibben Dana about her new book, God, Improv, and the Art of Living. She discusses the philosophy of improvisation and how it can inform our decisions about life and faith.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2018 18:19:19 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Bold Choices: MaryAnn McKibben Dana</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/68868a06-0338-11e9-b1d6-abd89d9e9dc2/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak to Rev. MaryAnn McKibben Dana about her new book, God, Improv, and the Art of Living</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We speak to Rev. MaryAnn McKibben Dana about her new book, God, Improv, and the Art of Living. She discusses the philosophy of improvisation and how it can inform our decisions about life and faith.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We speak to Rev. MaryAnn McKibben Dana about her new book, God, Improv, and the Art of Living. She discusses the philosophy of improvisation and how it can inform our decisions about life and faith.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2850</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1809 - To Be a Vessel of God's Grace: Jean-Pierre Fortin</title>
      <description>Jean-Pierre Fortin studies the most awful moments of human history, to discover the stories of those who become the presence of God's grace in God-forsaken conditions.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2018 17:08:19 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>To Be a Vessel of God's Grace: Jean-Pierre Fortin</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/68ac7568-0338-11e9-b1d6-239f6f822a6d/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Jean-Pierre Fortin studies the most awful moments of human history, to discover those who become the presence of God's grace in God-forsaken conditions</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Jean-Pierre Fortin studies the most awful moments of human history, to discover the stories of those who become the presence of God's grace in God-forsaken conditions.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Jean-Pierre Fortin studies the most awful moments of human history, to discover the stories of those who become the presence of God's grace in God-forsaken conditions.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2863</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1808 - Searching for Easter's Promise: John Dominic Crossan</title>
      <description>We talk with world-renowned Bible scholar John Dominic Crossan about a fifteen year detective story to find a missing understanding of Easter. Crossan and his wife, professional photographer Sarah Crossan, take a journey across the near east to discover images that rearrange western understandings of the Christian resurrection.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Searching for Easter's Promise: John Dominic Crossan</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/68d55406-0338-11e9-b1d6-a39636717853/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk with John Dominic Crossan about a fifteen year detective story to find a missing understanding of Easter</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We talk with world-renowned Bible scholar John Dominic Crossan about a fifteen year detective story to find a missing understanding of Easter. Crossan and his wife, professional photographer Sarah Crossan, take a journey across the near east to discover images that rearrange western understandings of the Christian resurrection.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We talk with world-renowned Bible scholar John Dominic Crossan about a fifteen year detective story to find a missing understanding of Easter. Crossan and his wife, professional photographer Sarah Crossan, take a journey across the near east to discover images that rearrange western understandings of the Christian resurrection.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2901</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1807 - Forgiveness Changes Everything: Dr. timone davis</title>
      <description>In this powerful interview, Loyola University professor timone davis recounts her journey from doubt and anger back to a fiery faith
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2018 21:58:17 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Forgiveness Changes Everything: Dr. timone davis</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6903a388-0338-11e9-b1d6-6faa9afd2ca4/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this powerful interview, timone davis recounts her journey from doubt and anger back to a fiery faith</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this powerful interview, Loyola University professor timone davis recounts her journey from doubt and anger back to a fiery faith
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this powerful interview, Loyola University professor timone davis recounts her journey from doubt and anger back to a fiery faith</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2880</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1612b - Moving Faithfully Beyond Limitations: Bishop John Shelby Spong [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We revisit a 2016 interview with Bishop Spong to mark the release of his new book, Unbelievable: Why Neither Ancient Creeds Nor the Reformation Can Produce a Living Faith Today
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2018 04:33:56 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Moving Faithfully Beyond Limitations: Bishop John Shelby Spong [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/692990e8-0338-11e9-b1d6-2ff49b92a93b/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit a 2016 interview with Bishop Spong to mark the release of his new book, Unbelievable</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit a 2016 interview with Bishop Spong to mark the release of his new book, Unbelievable: Why Neither Ancient Creeds Nor the Reformation Can Produce a Living Faith Today
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit a 2016 interview with Bishop Spong to mark the release of his new book, Unbelievable: Why Neither Ancient Creeds Nor the Reformation Can Produce a Living Faith Today</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3270</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1806 - The Communion of Haints: Jessica Mesman Griffith</title>
      <description>Jessica Mesman Griffith is a spiritual writer and curator of artistic communities for curious and wandering souls. We discuss her recent projects and events, as well as her own journey from brokenness to healing and community.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2018 20:39:59 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Communion of Haints: Jessica Mesman Griffith</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/694ebe36-0338-11e9-b1d6-3b35dd8c7a94/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Jessica Mesman Griffith is a spiritual writer and curator of artistic communities for curious and wandering souls.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Jessica Mesman Griffith is a spiritual writer and curator of artistic communities for curious and wandering souls. We discuss her recent projects and events, as well as her own journey from brokenness to healing and community.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Jessica Mesman Griffith is a spiritual writer and curator of artistic communities for curious and wandering souls. We discuss her recent projects and events, as well as her own journey from brokenness to healing and community.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2896</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1805 - The World as a Classroom: Dr. Brian Schmisek</title>
      <description>We discuss Dr. Schmisek's book, The Rome of Peter and Paul, as well as the Institute for Pastoral Studies at Loyola University Chicago
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2018 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The World as a Classroom: Dr. Brian Schmisek</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/699320bc-0338-11e9-b1d6-f75c16505be1/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We discuss Dr. Schmisek's book, The Rome of Peter and Paul, as well as the Institute for Pastoral Studies at Loyola University Chicago</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We discuss Dr. Schmisek's book, The Rome of Peter and Paul, as well as the Institute for Pastoral Studies at Loyola University Chicago
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We discuss Dr. Schmisek's book, The Rome of Peter and Paul, as well as the Institute for Pastoral Studies at Loyola University Chicago</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2839</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1804 - Learning to Listen: Joel Hamernick</title>
      <description>Joel Hamernick moved with his family to a poor neighborhood in south Chicago with a lot of big ideas about how he could make things better. Over time, his neighbors taught him how to actually make a difference. This is a frank conversation about race, privilege, and the power of humble faith.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Feb 2018 16:48:43 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Learning to Listen: Joel Hamernick</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/69c0069a-0338-11e9-b1d6-2b98df187ff5/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>This is a frank conversation about race, privilege, and the power of humble faith.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Joel Hamernick moved with his family to a poor neighborhood in south Chicago with a lot of big ideas about how he could make things better. Over time, his neighbors taught him how to actually make a difference. This is a frank conversation about race, privilege, and the power of humble faith.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Joel Hamernick moved with his family to a poor neighborhood in south Chicago with a lot of big ideas about how he could make things better. Over time, his neighbors taught him how to actually make a difference. This is a frank conversation about race, privilege, and the power of humble faith.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2896</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1803 - The No-Matter-What-ness of God: Fr. Gregory Boyle, SJ</title>
      <description>Fr. Gregory Boyle, SJ is the founder of Homeboy Industries in L.A. We talk about his three decades of work to heal the trauma of gang violence in the city, and discuss his new book, Barking at the Choir: The Power of Radical Kinship.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2018 17:49:06 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The No-Matter-What-ness of God: Fr. Gregory Boyle, SJ</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/69f43302-0338-11e9-b1d6-67f3c1f24f3f/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Fr. Gregory Boyle, SJ is the founder of Homeboy Industries in L.A. We talk about his three decades of work to heal the trauma of gang violence in the city.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Fr. Gregory Boyle, SJ is the founder of Homeboy Industries in L.A. We talk about his three decades of work to heal the trauma of gang violence in the city, and discuss his new book, Barking at the Choir: The Power of Radical Kinship.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Fr. Gregory Boyle, SJ is the founder of Homeboy Industries in L.A. We talk about his three decades of work to heal the trauma of gang violence in the city, and discuss his new book, Barking at the Choir: The Power of Radical Kinship.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2849</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1802 - A Voice for Our Times: Mark Galli on Karl Barth</title>
      <description>Mark Galli, editor in chief of Christianity Today, has written an accessible biography of Karl Barth, as an introduction for Evangelicals and others who might benefit from the work of this great theologian.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2018 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Voice for Our Times: Mark Galli on Karl Barth</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6a1dddd8-0338-11e9-b1d6-ef298137e999/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Mark Galli, editor in chief of Christianity Today, has written an accessible biography of Karl Barth, as an introduction for Evangelicals and others.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Mark Galli, editor in chief of Christianity Today, has written an accessible biography of Karl Barth, as an introduction for Evangelicals and others who might benefit from the work of this great theologian.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Mark Galli, editor in chief of Christianity Today, has written an accessible biography of Karl Barth, as an introduction for Evangelicals and others who might benefit from the work of this great theologian.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2840</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1801 - Taste and See: Reflecting on Food and Film with Antonio Sison</title>
      <description>Antonio 'Ton' Sison is a theologian, film critic, and film maker. We talk to him about his new book, The Sacred Foodways of Film
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 14 Jan 2018 16:45:16 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Taste and See: Reflecting on Food and Film with Antonio Sison</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6a5183e0-0338-11e9-b1d6-9f1e13f4ed93/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Ton Sison is a theologian, film critic, and film maker. We talk to him about his new book, The Sacred Foodways of Film</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Antonio 'Ton' Sison is a theologian, film critic, and film maker. We talk to him about his new book, The Sacred Foodways of Film
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Antonio 'Ton' Sison is a theologian, film critic, and film maker. We talk to him about his new book, The Sacred Foodways of Film</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2910</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1706a - A Crash Course in Love: Barbara Mahany</title>
      <description>Mahany's new book, Motherprayer, is a meditation on divine love, seen through the lens of mothering love.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2018 03:10:29 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Crash Course in Love: Barbara Mahany</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>17</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6a8507d8-0338-11e9-b1d6-3b1054863d4b/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Mahany's new book, Motherprayer, is a meditation on divine love, seen through the lens of mothering love.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Mahany's new book, Motherprayer, is a meditation on divine love, seen through the lens of mothering love.
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Mahany's new book, Motherprayer, is a meditation on divine love, seen through the lens of mothering love.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2963</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1603b - Rethinking the Church in the 21st Century: Diana Butler-Bass [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We revisit our far-ranging conversation with Diana Butler Bass. Her recent book Grounded: Finding God in the World--A Spiritual Revolution is now out in paperback
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2018 14:19:53 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Rethinking the Church in the 21st Century: Diana Butler-Bass [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6ab95312-0338-11e9-b1d6-d7279a2fd589/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our far-ranging conversation with Diana Butler Bass. Her recent book Grounded: Finding God in the World--A Spiritual Revolution is now out in paperback</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit our far-ranging conversation with Diana Butler Bass. Her recent book Grounded: Finding God in the World--A Spiritual Revolution is now out in paperback
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit our far-ranging conversation with Diana Butler Bass. Her recent book Grounded: Finding God in the World--A Spiritual Revolution is now out in paperback</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2954</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1712 - Failing Boldly: Rev. Christian Coon</title>
      <description>We speak with Christian Coon, co-founder and co-pastor of Chicago's Urban Village church, about his new book and lessons learned
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      <pubDate>Mon, 25 Dec 2017 21:06:17 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Failing Boldly: Rev. Christian Coon</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>17</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6ae1c036-0338-11e9-b1d6-ab08ef75a8a7/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak with Christian Coon, co-founder and co-pastor of Chicago's Urban Village church, about his new book and lessons learned</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We speak with Christian Coon, co-founder and co-pastor of Chicago's Urban Village church, about his new book and lessons learned
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We speak with Christian Coon, co-founder and co-pastor of Chicago's Urban Village church, about his new book and lessons learned</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2955</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1701b - Evangelizing Lebanon: Dr. Melanie Trexler [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We revisit our conversation with Valparaiso University professor of religion, Melanie Trexler, about her book, Evangelizing Lebanon, which looks at the history of Baptist mission work in the Near East
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      <pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2017 23:17:28 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Evangelizing Lebanon: Dr. Melanie Trexler [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>17</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6bb433a4-0338-11e9-b1d6-6b9cf30a68b8/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our conversation with Melanie Trexler about her book, Evangelizing Lebanon, which looks at the history of Baptist mission work in the Near East</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit our conversation with Valparaiso University professor of religion, Melanie Trexler, about her book, Evangelizing Lebanon, which looks at the history of Baptist mission work in the Near East
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit our conversation with Valparaiso University professor of religion, Melanie Trexler, about her book, Evangelizing Lebanon, which looks at the history of Baptist mission work in the Near East</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3233</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1417b - A Zeal for History: Reza Aslan [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We revisit our 2014 interview with Reza Aslan. He has recently released a new book, God: A Human History
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      <pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2017 16:07:22 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>A Zeal for History: Reza Aslan [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>14</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6beb2dbe-0338-11e9-b1d6-1f07b914b29a/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our 2014 interview with Reza Aslan. He has recently released a new book, God: A Human History</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit our 2014 interview with Reza Aslan. He has recently released a new book, God: A Human History
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit our 2014 interview with Reza Aslan. He has recently released a new book, God: A Human History</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2982</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[304822f2ceac970da572fa8646e17852]]></guid>
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      <title>#1516b - There By Grace: Nadia Bolz-Weber [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Best-selling author and Lutheran pastor Nadia Bolz-Weber pastors a small church in Denver, at the same time that she has become more of a celebrity and well-known writer. In our conversation, Bolz-Weber discusses her conservative upbringing, her addiction and recovery, and her journey to become a pastor and church planter. We talk about her new book, Accidental Saints: Finding God in All the Wrong People.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2017 12:24:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>There By Grace: Nadia Bolz-Weber [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>15</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6c1ab1f6-0338-11e9-b1d6-23ae760243bc/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk with the author of Accidental Saints about recovery and grace</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Best-selling author and Lutheran pastor Nadia Bolz-Weber pastors a small church in Denver, at the same time that she has become more of a celebrity and well-known writer. In our conversation, Bolz-Weber discusses her conservative upbringing, her addiction and recovery, and her journey to become a pastor and church planter. We talk about her new book, Accidental Saints: Finding God in All the Wrong People.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Best-selling author and Lutheran pastor Nadia Bolz-Weber pastors a small church in Denver, at the same time that she has become more of a celebrity and well-known writer. In our conversation, Bolz-Weber discusses her conservative upbringing, her addiction and recovery, and her journey to become a pastor and church planter. We talk about her new book, Accidental Saints: Finding God in All the Wrong People.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3148</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1711 - Reinventing Education: Stephen Katsouros</title>
      <description>Fr. Stephen Katsouros, SJ, talks about Arrupe College, a new dimension of Jesuit education designed to reach the students at the margins
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      <pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2017 18:44:58 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Reinventing Education: Stephen Katsouros</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>17</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6c42fca6-0338-11e9-b1d6-6bc99e5dc4e7/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Fr. Stephen Katsouros, SJ, talks about Arrupe College, a new dimension of Jesuit education designed to reach the students at the margins </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Fr. Stephen Katsouros, SJ, talks about Arrupe College, a new dimension of Jesuit education designed to reach the students at the margins
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Fr. Stephen Katsouros, SJ, talks about Arrupe College, a new dimension of Jesuit education designed to reach the students at the margins</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2983</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1710 - I was a Stranger, and You Welcomed Me: Joshua Jipp</title>
      <description>The Christian Gospels, and the holy writings of many religions, focus on the importance of welcome and fellowship. Our guest, Joshua Jipp, speaks to us about the centrality of hospitality to religious traditions, and we discuss his new book, Saved by Faith and Hospitality.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 09 Nov 2017 17:42:40 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title> I was a Stranger, and You Welcomed Me: Joshua Jipp</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>17</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6c7c30a2-0338-11e9-b1d6-bb8d67a3d738/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Joshua Jipp, speaks to us about the centrality of hospitality to religious traditions</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The Christian Gospels, and the holy writings of many religions, focus on the importance of welcome and fellowship. Our guest, Joshua Jipp, speaks to us about the centrality of hospitality to religious traditions, and we discuss his new book, Saved by Faith and Hospitality.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>The Christian Gospels, and the holy writings of many religions, focus on the importance of welcome and fellowship. Our guest, Joshua Jipp, speaks to us about the centrality of hospitality to religious traditions, and we discuss his new book, Saved by Faith and Hospitality.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2983</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1709 - Seeing Forty Years into the Future: Shanta Premawardhana</title>
      <description>The Rev. Dr. Shanta Premawardhana is helping to train leaders in contextual theology for the 21st century.
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      <pubDate>Fri, 27 Oct 2017 02:46:40 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Seeing Forty Years into the Future: Shanta Premawardhana</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>17</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6cb54f4a-0338-11e9-b1d6-83a68eb4ac60/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>The Rev. Dr. Shanta Premawardhana is helping to train leaders in contextual theology for the 21st century.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The Rev. Dr. Shanta Premawardhana is helping to train leaders in contextual theology for the 21st century.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>The Rev. Dr. Shanta Premawardhana is helping to train leaders in contextual theology for the 21st century.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2983</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1708 - Can I get a witness?: John Mauck</title>
      <description>Attorney John Mauck has spent decades on the front lines of religious freedom litigation. We discuss his new book, Jesus in the Courtroom: How Believers Can Engage the Legal System for the Good of His World.

We discussed Mauck's role in the passage of the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act (RLUIPA) in a previous episode, The Miracle on Capitol Hill.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2017 17:43:11 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Can I Get a Witness?: John Mauck</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>17</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6cddebc6-0338-11e9-b1d6-7741c19482b1/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Attorney John Mauck has spent decades on the front lines of religious freedom litigation. We discuss his new book, Jesus in the Courtroom.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Attorney John Mauck has spent decades on the front lines of religious freedom litigation. We discuss his new book, Jesus in the Courtroom: How Believers Can Engage the Legal System for the Good of His World.

We discussed Mauck's role in the passage of the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act (RLUIPA) in a previous episode, The Miracle on Capitol Hill.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Attorney John Mauck has spent decades on the front lines of religious freedom litigation. We discuss his new book, Jesus in the Courtroom: How Believers Can Engage the Legal System for the Good of His World.

We discussed Mauck's role in the passage of the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act (RLUIPA) in a previous episode, The Miracle on Capitol Hill.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2983</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1419c - Forgiving a Killer: Jeanne Bishop [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>On Palm Sunday in 1990, attorney Jeanne Bishop received a phone call with the news that three members of her family - including her sister - had been brutally murdered. We take the full hour of our show this week to hear Bishop's account of her twenty-five-year journey towards forgiveness and reconciliation with her sister's killer.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2017 02:09:51 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Forgiving a Killer: Jeanne Bishop [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>14</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6d1a654c-0338-11e9-b1d6-7fa07243841a/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Attorney Jeanne Bishop speaks frankly about her twenty-five year journey of forgiveness and reconciliation with the man who killed members of her family.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>On Palm Sunday in 1990, attorney Jeanne Bishop received a phone call with the news that three members of her family - including her sister - had been brutally murdered. We take the full hour of our show this week to hear Bishop's account of her twenty-five-year journey towards forgiveness and reconciliation with her sister's killer.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>On Palm Sunday in 1990, attorney Jeanne Bishop received a phone call with the news that three members of her family - including her sister - had been brutally murdered. We take the full hour of our show this week to hear Bishop's account of her twenty-five-year journey towards forgiveness and reconciliation with her sister's killer.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2983</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1506c - Bringing the Word to Life: Curt Cloninger [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>This hour we revisit our interview with actor and director Curt Cloninger, who has spent 30 years traveling the country performing thoughtful and thought-provoking one-man shows.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2017 01:38:01 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Bringing the Word to Life: Curt Cloninger [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>15</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6d3fb478-0338-11e9-b1d6-ff5ab314bbf6/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>This hour we revisit our interview with actor and director Curt Cloninger, who has spent 30 years traveling the country performing thoughtful and thought-provoking one-man shows.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This hour we revisit our interview with actor and director Curt Cloninger, who has spent 30 years traveling the country performing thoughtful and thought-provoking one-man shows.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This hour we revisit our interview with actor and director Curt Cloninger, who has spent 30 years traveling the country performing thoughtful and thought-provoking one-man shows.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2983</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1622c - The Invisible Bestseller: Kenneth Briggs [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Kenneth Briggs went on a road trip to discover the condition of the Bible in America. What he found may surprise you.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2017 21:48:09 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Invisible Bestseller: Kenneth Briggs [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6d844930-0338-11e9-b1d6-930232e7d675/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Kenneth Briggs went on a road trip to discover the condition of the Bible in America. What he found may surprise you.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Kenneth Briggs went on a road trip to discover the condition of the Bible in America. What he found may surprise you.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Kenneth Briggs went on a road trip to discover the condition of the Bible in America. What he found may surprise you.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2982</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[90bc1058a3b723e0d6ab29c47778475d]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM5532221835.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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    <item>
      <title>#1703b - The Lazarus Perspective: Rev. Jason Micheli [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Jason Micheli has cancer, and its not going away. His recent book, Cancer is Funny, is an honest, heartfelt reckoning with the reality of mortality and the Gospel.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2017 21:32:11 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Lazarus Perspective: Rev. Jason Micheli [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>17</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6db201cc-0338-11e9-b1d6-3f033b08e57d/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Jason Micheli has cancer, and its not going away. His recent book, Cancer is Funny, is an honest, heartfelt reckoning with the reality of mortality and the Gospel.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Jason Micheli has cancer, and its not going away. His recent book, Cancer is Funny, is an honest, heartfelt reckoning with the reality of mortality and the Gospel.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Jason Micheli has cancer, and its not going away. His recent book, Cancer is Funny, is an honest, heartfelt reckoning with the reality of mortality and the Gospel.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2983</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[c76905355d124e10441d057016f52d89]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM2749247513.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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    <item>
      <title>#1508c - Truth Box Tune Up: Nancy Ellen Abrams [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We revisit our award-winning talk with Nancy Ellen Abrams, author of A God That Could Be Real: Spirituality, Science, and the Future of Our Planet, about new discoveries in cosmology and their profound effect on our understanding of the universe and religion.

In 2016 this episode won a national award for excellence in radio and podcasting from the Religion News Association.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2017 21:52:38 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Truth Box Tune Up: Nancy Ellen Abrams [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>15</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6dea28c2-0338-11e9-b1d6-1bf20472449b/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our award-winning talk with Nancy Ellen Abrams, author of A God That Could Be Real: Spirituality, Science, and the Future of Our Planet</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit our award-winning talk with Nancy Ellen Abrams, author of A God That Could Be Real: Spirituality, Science, and the Future of Our Planet, about new discoveries in cosmology and their profound effect on our understanding of the universe and religion.

In 2016 this episode won a national award for excellence in radio and podcasting from the Religion News Association.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit our award-winning talk with Nancy Ellen Abrams, author of A God That Could Be Real: Spirituality, Science, and the Future of Our Planet, about new discoveries in cosmology and their profound effect on our understanding of the universe and religion.

In 2016 this episode won a national award for excellence in radio and podcasting from the Religion News Association.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2985</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[3dd9dfb8f9ac7271446e052193f38b4c]]></guid>
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      <title>#1707 - International Faith Relations: Amy Lillis</title>
      <description>Amy Lillis is former Acting Special Representative for Religion and Global Affairs. In our conversation, we discuss why the State Department took up religion as a diplomatic issue.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Sep 2017 03:58:36 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>International Faith Relations: Amy Lillis</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>17</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6e54662e-0338-11e9-b1d6-5be837e30122/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Amy Lillis is former Acting Special Representative for Religion and Global Affairs. We speak to her about her diplomatic work.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Amy Lillis is former Acting Special Representative for Religion and Global Affairs. In our conversation, we discuss why the State Department took up religion as a diplomatic issue.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Amy Lillis is former Acting Special Representative for Religion and Global Affairs. In our conversation, we discuss why the State Department took up religion as a diplomatic issue.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2983</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[f4d5bbdf1ccd65900d060474f4e5cc1a]]></guid>
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    <item>
      <title>#1501 - Healing from Regret: Michelle Van Loon [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Michelle Van Loon has been a writer for more than three decades. With her recent book, If Only: Letting Go of Regret, the author has turned her attention to the important subject of grief and regret, and has written a practical spiritual guide for getting over the feelings of "woulda, coulda, shoulda" that affect us all.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2017 20:19:30 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Healing from Regret: Michelle Van Loon [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>15</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6e865eea-0338-11e9-b1d6-038ab2abcc19/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Michelle Van Loon has written a practical spiritual guide for getting over the feelings of "woulda, coulda, shoulda" that affect us all.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Michelle Van Loon has been a writer for more than three decades. With her recent book, If Only: Letting Go of Regret, the author has turned her attention to the important subject of grief and regret, and has written a practical spiritual guide for getting over the feelings of "woulda, coulda, shoulda" that affect us all.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Michelle Van Loon has been a writer for more than three decades. With her recent book, If Only: Letting Go of Regret, the author has turned her attention to the important subject of grief and regret, and has written a practical spiritual guide for getting over the feelings of "woulda, coulda, shoulda" that affect us all.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2983</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[1cbd1fa56380b55df74c987458e71a43]]></guid>
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    <item>
      <title>#1420a - The Best of Both: Susan Katz Miller [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Author and journalist Susan Katz Miller is both an interfaith child and an interfaith parent. Her book, Being Both: Embracing Two Religions in One Interfaith Family, is both a memoir and a call to action for intentional interfaith community.  In this rebroadcast from 2014, we talk about how her experiences have shaped her approach to family and religious practice, and the politics of raising interfaith families.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2017 16:43:13 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Best of Both: Susan Katz Miller [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>14</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6eace7fe-0338-11e9-b1d6-2b7cd18d9864/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this rebroadcast, we talk to Susan Katz Miller about interfaith families.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Author and journalist Susan Katz Miller is both an interfaith child and an interfaith parent. Her book, Being Both: Embracing Two Religions in One Interfaith Family, is both a memoir and a call to action for intentional interfaith community.  In this rebroadcast from 2014, we talk about how her experiences have shaped her approach to family and religious practice, and the politics of raising interfaith families.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Author and journalist Susan Katz Miller is both an interfaith child and an interfaith parent. Her book, Being Both: Embracing Two Religions in One Interfaith Family, is both a memoir and a call to action for intentional interfaith community.  In this rebroadcast from 2014, we talk about how her experiences have shaped her approach to family and religious practice, and the politics of raising interfaith families.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2983</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[d31927d4ec77c719483ef015c96fcee3]]></guid>
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      <title>#1401c - Emerging, Emergence, Emergent: Phyllis Tickle [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We're rebroadcasting our 2014 interview with the late Phyllis Tickle. In our conversation we explore the idea that our culture has been shaped by roughly 500-year cycles, which have helped define our major religious traditions for the past two millennia. According to Tickle, our present epoch - referred to by some as "The Great Emergence" - has the potential to yield a new Christianity distinct from Protestantism, Catholicism, and Orthodoxy. Dr. Tickle passed away in 2016.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2017 02:26:45 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Emerging, Emergence, Emergent: Phyllis Tickle [Rebroadcast]</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>14</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6ed4e966-0338-11e9-b1d6-fb6767ed800b/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We're rebroadcasting our 2014 interview with the late Phyllis Tickle. In our conversation we explore the idea that our culture has been shaped by roughly 500-year cycles, which have helped define our major religious traditions for the past two millennia</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We're rebroadcasting our 2014 interview with the late Phyllis Tickle. In our conversation we explore the idea that our culture has been shaped by roughly 500-year cycles, which have helped define our major religious traditions for the past two millennia. According to Tickle, our present epoch - referred to by some as "The Great Emergence" - has the potential to yield a new Christianity distinct from Protestantism, Catholicism, and Orthodoxy. Dr. Tickle passed away in 2016.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We're rebroadcasting our 2014 interview with the late Phyllis Tickle. In our conversation we explore the idea that our culture has been shaped by roughly 500-year cycles, which have helped define our major religious traditions for the past two millennia. According to Tickle, our present epoch - referred to by some as "The Great Emergence" - has the potential to yield a new Christianity distinct from Protestantism, Catholicism, and Orthodoxy. Dr. Tickle passed away in 2016.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2982</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[7b3b6337cfc243fa80313046cafad0f0]]></guid>
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      <title>#1518c - The Gospel is Personal, Never Private: Jim Wallis</title>
      <description>We revisit our 2015 interview with Jim Wallis, founder of Sojourners. We discuss his recent book, America's Original Sin: Racism, White Privilege, and the Bridge to a New America  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Aug 2017 00:32:17 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title> Jim Wallis: The Gospel is Personal, Never Private</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>15</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6f089a68-0338-11e9-b1d6-4716a508c5e0/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our 2015 interview with Jim Wallis, founder of Sojourners. We discuss his recent book, America's Original Sin: Racism, White Privilege, and the Bridge to a New America  </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit our 2015 interview with Jim Wallis, founder of Sojourners. We discuss his recent book, America's Original Sin: Racism, White Privilege, and the Bridge to a New America  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit our 2015 interview with Jim Wallis, founder of Sojourners. We discuss his recent book, America's Original Sin: Racism, White Privilege, and the Bridge to a New America  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2963</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1706 - A Crash Course in Love: Barbara Mahany</title>
      <description>Mahany's new book, Motherprayer, is a meditation on divine love, seen through the lens of mothering love. 
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      <pubDate>Sun, 16 Jul 2017 14:51:12 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6f807f38-0338-11e9-b1d6-5bdc0224c5c7/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Mahany's new book, Motherprayer, is a meditation on divine love, seen through the lens of mothering love. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Mahany's new book, Motherprayer, is a meditation on divine love, seen through the lens of mothering love. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Mahany's new book, Motherprayer, is a meditation on divine love, seen through the lens of mothering love. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2938</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[e0172a54a69fe5eae184cf48fc967ae0]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM3139736755.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#1705 - Praying from the Depths: Heather King</title>
      <description>We talk with Heather King about her life as a poly-addicted alcoholic, and the central role of her religious faith in her recovery. Her most recent book, Holy Desperation: Praying As If Your Life Depends On It, is a chronicle of her journey.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2017 12:27:57 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6fb89b8e-0338-11e9-b1d6-2f87165acff8/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk with Heather King about her life as a poly-addicted alcoholic, and the central role of her religious faith in her recovery. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We talk with Heather King about her life as a poly-addicted alcoholic, and the central role of her religious faith in her recovery. Her most recent book, Holy Desperation: Praying As If Your Life Depends On It, is a chronicle of her journey.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We talk with Heather King about her life as a poly-addicted alcoholic, and the central role of her religious faith in her recovery. Her most recent book, Holy Desperation: Praying As If Your Life Depends On It, is a chronicle of her journey.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2938</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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    <item>
      <title>#1509a - The New Jim Crow: Michelle Alexander [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Michelle Alexander's work examines the hidden structures of control exerted by our criminal justice system, and the effects this control has particularly on minority populations in America. Her 2010 book, The New Jim Crow, set the tone of the conversation for understanding recent events in race relations.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2017 12:19:41 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/716ed60a-0338-11e9-b1d6-831843a5ce0f/image/TNS_Maria-Logo_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak with author, law professor, and activist Michelle Alexander about the use of mass incarceration as a new form of Jim Crow in America</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Michelle Alexander's work examines the hidden structures of control exerted by our criminal justice system, and the effects this control has particularly on minority populations in America. Her 2010 book, The New Jim Crow, set the tone of the conversation for understanding recent events in race relations.
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        <![CDATA[<p>Michelle Alexander's work examines the hidden structures of control exerted by our criminal justice system, and the effects this control has particularly on minority populations in America. Her 2010 book, <em>The New Jim Crow</em>, set the tone of the conversation for understanding recent events in race relations.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2938</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#1413a - Religious Objects: Brent Plate [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Professor Plate's teachings and writings explore relations between sensual life and spiritual life. He has authored/edited eleven books and writes regularly for the Huffington Post, Religion Dispatches, Killing the Buddha, OnFaith, and other sites. He is co-founder and managing editor of Material Religion: The Journal of Objects, Art, and Belief, co-founder and president of SCRIPT (Society for Comparative Research in Iconic and Performative Texts), president of CrossCurrents/ The Association of Religion and Intellectual Life, and is a board member of the Interfaith Coalition of Greater Utica, NY. His most recent book is A History of Religion in 5 ½ Objects: Bringing the Spiritual to its Senses.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2017 20:47:37 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/71e52788-0338-11e9-b1d6-eb911f3a6db1/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our 2014 conversation with S. Brent Plate, author of A History or Religion in 5 1/2 Objects</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Professor Plate's teachings and writings explore relations between sensual life and spiritual life. He has authored/edited eleven books and writes regularly for the Huffington Post, Religion Dispatches, Killing the Buddha, OnFaith, and other sites. He is co-founder and managing editor of Material Religion: The Journal of Objects, Art, and Belief, co-founder and president of SCRIPT (Society for Comparative Research in Iconic and Performative Texts), president of CrossCurrents/ The Association of Religion and Intellectual Life, and is a board member of the Interfaith Coalition of Greater Utica, NY. His most recent book is A History of Religion in 5 ½ Objects: Bringing the Spiritual to its Senses.
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        <![CDATA[<p>Professor Plate's teachings and writings explore relations between sensual life and spiritual life. He has authored/edited eleven books and writes regularly for the Huffington Post, Religion Dispatches, Killing the Buddha, OnFaith, and other sites. He is co-founder and managing editor of <a href= "https://www.amazon.com/Material-Religion-Journal-Objects-Belief/dp/1847882463" target="_blank"><em>Material Religion: The Journal of Objects, Art, and Belief</em></a>, co-founder and president of <a href= "http://script-site.net/" target="_blank">SCRIPT</a> (Society for Comparative Research in Iconic and Performative Texts), president of CrossCurrents/ The Association of Religion and Intellectual Life, and is a board member of the Interfaith Coalition of Greater Utica, NY. His most recent book is <em>A History of Religion in 5 ½ Objects: Bringing the Spiritual to its Senses</em>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2938</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#1418a - Junkies, Queers, and Jesus - Living the Gospel with Rev. Heidi Neumark</title>
      <description>Heidi Neumark spent twenty years as the pastor of Transfiguration Lutheran Church in the South Bronx in New York City, and has spent the past decade at Trinity Lutheran Church in Manhattan. At both posts, she has encountered the same need: people on the margins - cast out and unwanted - who need to hear the Good News that they are wanted, needed, and valued.  So Reverend Neumark has focused her ministry on immigrants, the homeless, and queer and LGBTQ youth, offering them shelter and welcome in a city that is often harsh and violent.  Host David Dault speaks to Reverend Neumark about what motivates her ministry, how she reads the Bible, and what gives her hope.  Also on the show, our guest producer, Katie Lynn Murphy, files a report about her experiences of China during the recent protests.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2017 15:00:15 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/720bb9de-0338-11e9-b1d6-47265d37cd01/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>For three decades Neumark has been ministering to the margins in New York City; Also on the show, Katie Lynn Murphy files a report from China</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Heidi Neumark spent twenty years as the pastor of Transfiguration Lutheran Church in the South Bronx in New York City, and has spent the past decade at Trinity Lutheran Church in Manhattan. At both posts, she has encountered the same need: people on the margins - cast out and unwanted - who need to hear the Good News that they are wanted, needed, and valued.  So Reverend Neumark has focused her ministry on immigrants, the homeless, and queer and LGBTQ youth, offering them shelter and welcome in a city that is often harsh and violent.  Host David Dault speaks to Reverend Neumark about what motivates her ministry, how she reads the Bible, and what gives her hope.  Also on the show, our guest producer, Katie Lynn Murphy, files a report about her experiences of China during the recent protests.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Heidi Neumark spent twenty years as the pastor of Transfiguration Lutheran Church in the South Bronx in New York City, and has spent the past decade at Trinity Lutheran Church in Manhattan. At both posts, she has encountered the same need: people on the margins - cast out and unwanted - who need to hear the Good News that they are wanted, needed, and valued.<br /> <br /> So Reverend Neumark has focused her ministry on immigrants, the homeless, and queer and LGBTQ youth, offering them shelter and welcome in a city that is often harsh and violent.<br /> <br /> Host David Dault speaks to Reverend Neumark about what motivates her ministry, how she reads the Bible, and what gives her hope.<br /> <br /> Also on the show, our guest producer, Katie Lynn Murphy, files a report about her experiences of China during the recent protests.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2878</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1516a - There by Grace: Nadia Bolz-Weber [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Tattoos, foul language, and a heart for the Gospel. pastor and author Nadia Bolz-Weber talks about her new book, Accidental Saints, and the centrality of grace.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 21 May 2017 16:16:55 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/72300aa0-0338-11e9-b1d6-cffc7e74c675/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Tattoos, foul language, and a heart for the Gospel. pastor and author Nadia Bolz-Weber talks about her new book, Accidental Saints, and the centrality of grace.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Tattoos, foul language, and a heart for the Gospel. pastor and author Nadia Bolz-Weber talks about her new book, Accidental Saints, and the centrality of grace.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Tattoos, foul language, and a heart for the Gospel. pastor and author Nadia Bolz-Weber talks about her new book, Accidental Saints, and the centrality of grace.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3103</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1414a - The Miracle on Capitol Hill: John Mauck [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>In the year 2000, against strong opposition,  pasthe Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act, passed Congress by unanimous vote. It's supporters proclaimed that "God worked a miracle" that day on Capitol Hill. Our guest, John Mauck, was instrumental in crafting the ideas and language that became the Act. He tells us the story of how it became law.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2017 14:19:11 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7266a7f4-0338-11e9-b1d6-dbbf857ffd25/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Attorney John Mauck tells the story of the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act, a major piece of Religious Liberty legislation</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In the year 2000, against strong opposition,  pasthe Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act, passed Congress by unanimous vote. It's supporters proclaimed that "God worked a miracle" that day on Capitol Hill. Our guest, John Mauck, was instrumental in crafting the ideas and language that became the Act. He tells us the story of how it became law.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In the year 2000, against strong opposition,  pasthe Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act, passed Congress by unanimous vote. It's supporters proclaimed that "God worked a miracle" that day on Capitol Hill. Our guest, John Mauck, was instrumental in crafting the ideas and language that became the Act. He tells us the story of how it became law.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2940</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1222a - Pentecostal and Postmodern: J. Aaron Simmons [Rebroadcast[</title>
      <description>We revisit our 2012 interview with Furman University philosophy professor J. Aaron Simmons, to discuss the relationship of Christianity and postmodern thought. Simmons identifies as a Pentecostal, a traditionally conservative Christian denomination. But his views on social issues complicate this easy label. We talk about the complexities he sees in the life of faith during this hour of conversation.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 07 May 2017 19:01:16 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/729906e0-0338-11e9-b1d6-cbab723a0459/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our 2012 interview with Furman University philosophy professor J. Aaron Simmons, to discuss the relationship of Christianity and postmodern thought.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit our 2012 interview with Furman University philosophy professor J. Aaron Simmons, to discuss the relationship of Christianity and postmodern thought. Simmons identifies as a Pentecostal, a traditionally conservative Christian denomination. But his views on social issues complicate this easy label. We talk about the complexities he sees in the life of faith during this hour of conversation.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit our 2012 interview with Furman University philosophy professor J. Aaron Simmons, to discuss the relationship of Christianity and postmodern thought. Simmons identifies as a Pentecostal, a traditionally conservative Christian denomination. But his views on social issues complicate this easy label. We talk about the complexities he sees in the life of faith during this hour of conversation.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2938</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1505a - Listening with the Ear of the Heart: Judith Valente [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Our host David Dault speaks with award-winning poet, author, and journalist Judith Valente. We discuss her career as a religion reporter, as well as her explorations of modern monasticism.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2017 01:04:23 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/72c65dc0-0338-11e9-b1d6-db6c884387b5/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our host David Dault speaks with award-winning poet, author, and journalist Judith Valente. We discuss her career as a religion reporter, as well as her explorations of modern monasticism.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our host David Dault speaks with award-winning poet, author, and journalist Judith Valente. We discuss her career as a religion reporter, as well as her explorations of modern monasticism.
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our host David Dault speaks with award-winning poet, author, and journalist Judith Valente. We discuss her career as a religion reporter, as well as her explorations of modern monasticism.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2938</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1608a - When God Isn't Green: Jay Wexler [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>For Earth Day, we welcome back Boston Law Professor Jay Wexler to talk about his recent book, When God Isn't Green, which finds him exploring the points around the globe where religion and environmentalism come into conflict.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:34:32 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/72ebe342-0338-11e9-b1d6-837ecf25ed9a/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>For Earth Day, we welcome back Boston Law Professor Jay Wexler to talk about his recent book, which finds him exploring the points around the globe where religion and environmentalism come into conflict.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>For Earth Day, we welcome back Boston Law Professor Jay Wexler to talk about his recent book, When God Isn't Green, which finds him exploring the points around the globe where religion and environmentalism come into conflict.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>For Earth Day, we welcome back Boston Law Professor Jay Wexler to talk about his recent book, When God Isn't Green, which finds him exploring the points around the globe where religion and environmentalism come into conflict.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2938</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1604a - The Seven Last Words of Jesus: Fr. James Martin, SJ [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Around the world, Catholic and Protestant Christians are making preparations for Holy Week, a series of worship services leading up Easter, the day that Christians proclaim Jesus Christ was raised from the dead. During the day known as Good Friday,there is a tradition in many Christian communities to reflect on a series of phrases known as the "Seven Last Words" of Jesus as he hung on the cross.
We speak with Fr. James Martin about his book, Seven Last Words, a collection of his meditations on the final hours of Jesus, and what it means for believers and nonbelievers alike. 
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      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2017 01:49:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/732e3ed6-0338-11e9-b1d6-57ac36b07cce/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak with Fr. James Martin about his book, Seven Last Words, a collection of his meditations on the final hours of Jesus, and what it means for believers and nonbelievers alike. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Around the world, Catholic and Protestant Christians are making preparations for Holy Week, a series of worship services leading up Easter, the day that Christians proclaim Jesus Christ was raised from the dead. During the day known as Good Friday,there is a tradition in many Christian communities to reflect on a series of phrases known as the "Seven Last Words" of Jesus as he hung on the cross.
We speak with Fr. James Martin about his book, Seven Last Words, a collection of his meditations on the final hours of Jesus, and what it means for believers and nonbelievers alike. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Around the world, Catholic and Protestant Christians are making preparations for Holy Week, a series of worship services leading up Easter, the day that Christians proclaim Jesus Christ was raised from the dead. During the day known as Good Friday,there is a tradition in many Christian communities to reflect on a series of phrases known as the "Seven Last Words" of Jesus as he hung on the cross.</p><p>We speak with Fr. James Martin about his book, Seven Last Words, a collection of his meditations on the final hours of Jesus, and what it means for believers and nonbelievers alike. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3103</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1601a - A Ministry of Accompaniment: Marge Nykaza [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Marge Nykaza is the founder and director of Harmony, Hope and Healing - a ministry to homeless and under-resourced families across the Chicago area. The most visible part of the ministry is choral groups composed of the homeless - but as Nykaza points out, their work is much more about the soul repair, which happens through the music.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Apr 2017 02:32:44 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7359c344-0338-11e9-b1d6-5f97a49caac3/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Marge Nykaza is the founder and director of Harmony, Hope and Healing - a ministry to homeless and under-resourced families across the Chicago area. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Marge Nykaza is the founder and director of Harmony, Hope and Healing - a ministry to homeless and under-resourced families across the Chicago area. The most visible part of the ministry is choral groups composed of the homeless - but as Nykaza points out, their work is much more about the soul repair, which happens through the music.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Marge Nykaza is the founder and director of Harmony, Hope and Healing - a ministry to homeless and under-resourced families across the Chicago area. The most visible part of the ministry is choral groups composed of the homeless - but as Nykaza points out, their work is much more about the soul repair, which happens through the music.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2938</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1419a - Forgiving a Killer: Jeanne Bishop [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>On Palm Sunday in 1990, attorney Jeanne Bishop received a phone call with the news that three members of her family - including her sister - had been brutally murdered. We take the full hour of our show this week to hear Bishop's account of her twenty-five-year journey towards forgiveness and reconciliation with her sister's killer.
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      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Apr 2017 03:24:20 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/73854064-0338-11e9-b1d6-eba28adda029/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Attorney Jeanne Bishop speaks frankly about her twenty-five year journey of forgiveness and reconciliation with the man who killed members of her family.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>On Palm Sunday in 1990, attorney Jeanne Bishop received a phone call with the news that three members of her family - including her sister - had been brutally murdered. We take the full hour of our show this week to hear Bishop's account of her twenty-five-year journey towards forgiveness and reconciliation with her sister's killer.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>On Palm Sunday in 1990, attorney Jeanne Bishop received a phone call with the news that three members of her family - including her sister - had been brutally murdered. We take the full hour of our show this week to hear Bishop's account of her twenty-five-year journey towards forgiveness and reconciliation with her sister's killer.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2941</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1506a - Bringing the Word to Life: Curt Cloninger [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>This hour we revisit our interview with actor and director Curt Cloninger, who has spent 30 years traveling the country performing thoughtful and thought-provoking one-man shows.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2017 03:08:39 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/73acecc2-0338-11e9-b1d6-eb88e5073bd3/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>This hour we revisit our interview with actor and director Curt Cloninger, who has spent 30 years traveling the country performing thoughtful and thought-provoking one-man shows.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This hour we revisit our interview with actor and director Curt Cloninger, who has spent 30 years traveling the country performing thoughtful and thought-provoking one-man shows.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This hour we revisit our interview with actor and director Curt Cloninger, who has spent 30 years traveling the country performing thoughtful and thought-provoking one-man shows.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2935</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[5551b9d3a4e7da9111d25f1ff714b2e4]]></guid>
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    <item>
      <title>The Lazarus Perspective: Rev. Jason Micheli</title>
      <description>Jason Micheli has cancer, and its not going away. His recent book, Cancer is Funny, is an honest, heartfelt reckoning with the reality of mortality and the Gospel.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Mar 2017 01:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/73e6f91c-0338-11e9-b1d6-0387309fdcc8/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Jason Micheli has cancer, and its not going away. His recent book, Cancer is Funny, is an honest, heartfelt reckoning with the reality of mortality and the Gospel.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Jason Micheli has cancer, and its not going away. His recent book, Cancer is Funny, is an honest, heartfelt reckoning with the reality of mortality and the Gospel.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Jason Micheli has cancer, and its not going away. His recent book, Cancer is Funny, is an honest, heartfelt reckoning with the reality of mortality and the Gospel.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2967</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[9a30e418b5aac7c43a4e58e9ebd4e99d]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM4328966506.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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    <item>
      <title>#1508 - Truth Box Tune Up: Nancy Ellen Abrams [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We revisit our award-winning talk with Nancy Ellen Abrams, author of A God That Could Be Real: Spirituality, Science, and the Future of Our Planet, about new discoveries in cosmology and their profound effect on our understanding of the universe and religion.
 In 2016 this episode won a national award for excellence in radio and podcasting from the Religion News Association.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2017 00:24:50 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/740f5844-0338-11e9-b1d6-77e13be62330/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our award-winning talk with Nancy Ellen Abrams, author of A God That Could Be Real: Spirituality, Science, and the Future of Our Planet</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit our award-winning talk with Nancy Ellen Abrams, author of A God That Could Be Real: Spirituality, Science, and the Future of Our Planet, about new discoveries in cosmology and their profound effect on our understanding of the universe and religion.
 In 2016 this episode won a national award for excellence in radio and podcasting from the Religion News Association.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit our award-winning talk with Nancy Ellen Abrams, author of <em>A God That Could Be Real: Spirituality, Science, and the Future of Our Planet</em>, about new discoveries in cosmology and their profound effect on our understanding of the universe and religion.</p> <p>In 2016 this episode won a national award for excellence in radio and podcasting from the Religion News Association.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2967</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[63d1ecb1ed4b9e6e01f1154de3fe86fa]]></guid>
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      <title>#1622a - The Invisible Bestseller: Kenneth Briggs [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Kenneth Briggs went on a road trip to discover the condition of the Bible in America. What he found may surprise you.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 06 Mar 2017 22:27:33 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/74391166-0338-11e9-b1d6-97b84ccc4128/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Kenneth Briggs went on a road trip to discover the condition of the Bible in America. What he found may surprise you.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Kenneth Briggs went on a road trip to discover the condition of the Bible in America. What he found may surprise you.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Kenneth Briggs went on a road trip to discover the condition of the Bible in America. What he found may surprise you.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2967</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[054e2233565b392776c7f79e547bde26]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM3680338733.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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    <item>
      <title>#1417a - A Zeal for History: Reza Aslan [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We revisit our 2014 interview with Reza Aslan. In early March, Aslan will premiere "Believer," a new documentary series on CNN
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2017 19:18:39 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/745f3ba2-0338-11e9-b1d6-375c1c50d318/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our 2014 interview with Reza Aslan. In early March, Aslan will premiere "Believer," a new documentary series on CNN</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit our 2014 interview with Reza Aslan. In early March, Aslan will premiere "Believer," a new documentary series on CNN
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit our 2014 interview with Reza Aslan. In early March, Aslan will premiere "Believer," a new documentary series on CNN</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2965</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[def59c742905ac72b307b63dd287a6d1]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM7919343414.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#1401a - Emerging, Emergence, Emergent: Phyllis Tickle [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We're rebroadcasting our 2014 interview with the late Phyllis Tickle. In our conversation we explore the idea that our culture has been shaped by roughly 500-year cycles, which have helped define our major religious traditions for the past two millennia. According to Tickle, our present epoch - referred to by some as "The Great Emergence" - has the potential to yield a new Christianity distinct from Protestantism, Catholicism, and Orthodoxy. Dr. Tickle passed away in 2016.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2017 16:31:07 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/749782fa-0338-11e9-b1d6-e7e1b2988844/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We're rebroadcasting our 2014 interview with the late Phyllis Tickle. In our conversation we explore the idea that our culture has been shaped by roughly 500-year cycles, which have helped define our major religious traditions for the past two...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We're rebroadcasting our 2014 interview with the late Phyllis Tickle. In our conversation we explore the idea that our culture has been shaped by roughly 500-year cycles, which have helped define our major religious traditions for the past two millennia. According to Tickle, our present epoch - referred to by some as "The Great Emergence" - has the potential to yield a new Christianity distinct from Protestantism, Catholicism, and Orthodoxy. Dr. Tickle passed away in 2016.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We're rebroadcasting our 2014 interview with the late Phyllis Tickle. In our conversation we explore the idea that our culture has been shaped by roughly 500-year cycles, which have helped define our major religious traditions for the past two millennia. According to Tickle, our present epoch - referred to by some as "The Great Emergence" - has the potential to yield a new Christianity distinct from Protestantism, Catholicism, and Orthodoxy. Dr. Tickle passed away in 2016.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2964</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[c23697c14a4dd19f77aba2a6ebaf83d0]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM1677472840.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#1518a - The Gospel Is Personal, Never Private: Jim Wallis [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We revisit our 2015 interview with Jim Wallis, founder of Sojourners. We discuss his recent book, America's Original Sin: Racism, White Privilege, and the Bridge to a New America  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:56:18 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/74cd0f42-0338-11e9-b1d6-4731534e3a10/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our 2015 interview with Jim Wallis, founder of Sojourners. We discuss his recent book, America's Original Sin: Racism, White Privilege, and the Bridge to a New America  </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit our 2015 interview with Jim Wallis, founder of Sojourners. We discuss his recent book, America's Original Sin: Racism, White Privilege, and the Bridge to a New America  
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit our 2015 interview with Jim Wallis, founder of Sojourners. We discuss his recent book, America's Original Sin: Racism, White Privilege, and the Bridge to a New America  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2946</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[6877bc53b6ffe1e545536929c8e3803e]]></guid>
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      <title>#1604a - Rethinking the Church in the 21st Century: Diana Butler Bass [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We revisit our far-ranging conversation with Diana Butler Bass. Her recent book Grounded: Finding God in the World--A Spiritual Revolution is now out in paperback
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2017 21:27:22 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/74f777dc-0338-11e9-b1d6-9ffcc1f30316/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our far-ranging conversation with Diana Butler Bass. Her recent book Grounded: Finding God in the World--A Spiritual Revolution is now out in paperback</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit our far-ranging conversation with Diana Butler Bass. Her recent book Grounded: Finding God in the World--A Spiritual Revolution is now out in paperback
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit our far-ranging conversation with Diana Butler Bass. Her recent book Grounded: Finding God in the World--A Spiritual Revolution is now out in paperback</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2946</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[d0adb6782ea9fb2938a7362a9f6e939b]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM5732115556.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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    <item>
      <title>#1701 - Evangelizing Lebanon: Dr. Melanie Trexler</title>
      <description>We speak with Melanie Trexler about her new book, which looks at the history of Baptist mission work in the Near East
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      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2017 02:20:49 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/751cc1b8-0338-11e9-b1d6-7b13c7809861/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak with Melanie Trexler about her new book, which looks at the history of Baptist mission work in the Near East</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We speak with Melanie Trexler about her new book, which looks at the history of Baptist mission work in the Near East
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We speak with Melanie Trexler about her new book, which looks at the history of Baptist mission work in the Near East</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3305</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM8228363852.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#1512a - The Fear of Islam: Dr. Todd Green [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>Todd Green returns to our show to discuss his new book, The Fear of Islam: an Introduction to Islamophobia in the West.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2017 01:16:24 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7561571a-0338-11e9-b1d6-5f7c48b13497/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Todd Green returns to our show to discuss his new book, The Fear of Islam: an Introduction to Islamophobia in the West.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Todd Green returns to our show to discuss his new book, The Fear of Islam: an Introduction to Islamophobia in the West.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Todd Green returns to our show to discuss his new book, The Fear of Islam: an Introduction to Islamophobia in the West.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2759</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[6bf540e4bdad7758864fa0d268205b17]]></guid>
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      <title>#1513a - Soul Repair: Rev. Dr. Rita Nakashima Brock</title>
      <description>We speak to Rita Nakashima Brock, one of the scholars working on the issue of moral injury and co-author of the book Soul Repair
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      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2017 16:32:48 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7588bb48-0338-11e9-b1d6-77242bfc04fb/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak to Rita Nakashima Brock, one of the scholars working on the issue of moral injury and co-author of the book Soul Repair</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We speak to Rita Nakashima Brock, one of the scholars working on the issue of moral injury and co-author of the book Soul Repair
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We speak to Rita Nakashima Brock, one of the scholars working on the issue of moral injury and co-author of the book Soul Repair</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2759</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[b8908d99f25b27cd9874fce8d5aa1d60]]></guid>
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      <title>#1515am - Civic Virtue: John Danforth on Religion and Politics</title>
      <description>For our first radio broadcast, we revisit a conversation with Senator John Danforth
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      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Jan 2017 21:23:23 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/75c488a8-0338-11e9-b1d6-a328a395e048/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>For our first radio broadcast, we revisit a conversation with Senator John Danforth</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>For our first radio broadcast, we revisit a conversation with Senator John Danforth
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>For our first radio broadcast, we revisit a conversation with Senator John Danforth</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2759</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#1625 - An Interfaith Ecology: Rev. Brian Sauder</title>
      <description>Faith In Place works across Illinois to empower congregations to care for our common environment. We talk to their Executive Director, Rev. Brian Sauder
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      <pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2016 01:49:28 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7610f22e-0338-11e9-b1d6-279839b1b255/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Faith In Place works across Illinois to empower congregations to care for our common environment. We talk to their Executive Director, Rev. Brian Sauder</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Faith In Place works across Illinois to empower congregations to care for our common environment. We talk to their Executive Director, Rev. Brian Sauder
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Faith In Place works across Illinois to empower congregations to care for our common environment. We talk to their Executive Director, Rev. Brian Sauder</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3127</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[fb19680bba6c441f2ef1c682833dcd26]]></guid>
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      <title>#1201 - Women in Ministry: Stacy Smith [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>This week, we revisit our FIRST EVER EPISODE, with the Rev. Dr. Stacy Smith. She is the author of Bless Her Heart:Life as a Young Clergy Woman, and she is the former editor of Church Health Reader magazine.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2016 04:29:40 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/764862ea-0338-11e9-b1d6-a778c6f398a4/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week, we revisit our FIRST EVER EPISODE, with the Rev. Dr. Stacy Smith</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This week, we revisit our FIRST EVER EPISODE, with the Rev. Dr. Stacy Smith. She is the author of Bless Her Heart:Life as a Young Clergy Woman, and she is the former editor of Church Health Reader magazine.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, we revisit our FIRST EVER EPISODE, with the Rev. Dr. Stacy Smith. She is the author of Bless Her Heart:Life as a Young Clergy Woman, and she is the former editor of Church Health Reader magazine.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2629</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1514b - Tales from Pakistan: Saadia Faruqi [Rebroadcast]</title>
      <description>We revisit our 2015 interview with Pakistani-American author Saadia Faruqi
 The power of narrative to create understanding and empathy is well known. Pakistani-American author Saadia Faruqi has written a new book of short stories, Brick Walls, that brings us seven stories that introduce American readers to the people and the land of her birth.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 05 Dec 2016 06:25:03 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/767b57f4-0338-11e9-b1d6-6729d9344cdf/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our 2015 interview with Pakistani-American author Saadia Faruqi</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit our 2015 interview with Pakistani-American author Saadia Faruqi
 The power of narrative to create understanding and empathy is well known. Pakistani-American author Saadia Faruqi has written a new book of short stories, Brick Walls, that brings us seven stories that introduce American readers to the people and the land of her birth.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit our 2015 interview with Pakistani-American author Saadia Faruqi</p> <p id="yui_3_17_2_1_1480918107254_34280">The power of narrative to create understanding and empathy is well known. Pakistani-American author <a href="http://www.saadiafaruqi.com/" target="_blank" data-cke-saved-href="http://www.saadiafaruqi.com/">Saadia Faruqi</a> has written a new book of short stories, <a href= "http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0990387666/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0990387666&linkCode=as2&tag=thingsnotseen-20&linkId=6EKGP3QKAXSPLFCR" target="_blank" data-cke-saved-href= "http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0990387666/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0990387666&linkCode=as2&tag=thingsnotseen-20&linkId=6EKGP3QKAXSPLFCR"><em>Brick Walls</em></a>, that brings us seven stories that introduce American readers to the people and the land of her birth.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3244</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1626 - Report from Standing Rock: Taylor Gould</title>
      <description>We speak to seminary student Taylor Gould about her recent visit to the Standing Rock site, where hundreds of pastors converged to support the resistance efforts of the Native Americans who call themselves the "Water Protectors" at the Dakota Access Pipeline.
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      <pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2016 00:40:37 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/76a1699e-0338-11e9-b1d6-9795efc4762e/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak to seminary student Taylor Gould about her recent visit to the Standing Rock site, where hundreds of pastors converged to support the resistance efforts of the Native Americans who call themselves the "Water Protectors" at the Dakota Access Pipel</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We speak to seminary student Taylor Gould about her recent visit to the Standing Rock site, where hundreds of pastors converged to support the resistance efforts of the Native Americans who call themselves the "Water Protectors" at the Dakota Access Pipeline.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We speak to seminary student Taylor Gould about her recent visit to the Standing Rock site, where hundreds of pastors converged to support the resistance efforts of the Native Americans who call themselves the "Water Protectors" at the Dakota Access Pipeline.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3309</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[9754f6477a49b5326729827ed94b41b0]]></guid>
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      <title>#1624 - Called to the Contrast: Noel W. Sterett</title>
      <description>Chicago attorney Noel W. Sterett fights for religious liberties for those of all faiths, as a way of expressing his Christian witness.
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2016 23:33:38 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/76ea4042-0338-11e9-b1d6-1b934e15d9cd/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Chicago attorney Noel W. Sterett fights for religious liberties for those of all faiths, as a way of expressing his Christian witness.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Chicago attorney Noel W. Sterett fights for religious liberties for those of all faiths, as a way of expressing his Christian witness.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Chicago attorney Noel W. Sterett fights for religious liberties for those of all faiths, as a way of expressing his Christian witness.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3307</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[0654f433071665ed21547f29f3fcefb1]]></guid>
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      <title>#1623 - Avoiding Pastor Burnout: Rev. Jolene Bergstrom Carlson</title>
      <description>Rev. Jolene Bergstrom Carlson is executive director of Ministry mentors, a nationwide network of pastors supporting pastors through peer mentoring. We talk as well with Rev. Carlson about her own journey that brought her to this work.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 06 Nov 2016 14:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7a2181bc-0338-11e9-b1d6-c714ecc22ecf/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Rev. Jolene Bergstrom Carlson is executive director of Ministry mentors, a nationwide network of pastors supporting pastors through peer mentoring. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Rev. Jolene Bergstrom Carlson is executive director of Ministry mentors, a nationwide network of pastors supporting pastors through peer mentoring. We talk as well with Rev. Carlson about her own journey that brought her to this work.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Rev. Jolene Bergstrom Carlson is executive director of Ministry mentors, a nationwide network of pastors supporting pastors through peer mentoring. We talk as well with Rev. Carlson about her own journey that brought her to this work.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3309</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1622 - The Invisible Bestseller: Kenneth Briggs</title>
      <description>Kenneth Briggs went on a road trip to discover the condition of the Bible in America. What he found may surprise you.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2016 00:41:12 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7b92c3d0-0338-11e9-b1d6-0343783d4f88/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Kenneth Briggs went on a road trip to discover the condition of the Bible in America. What he found may surprise you.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Kenneth Briggs went on a road trip to discover the condition of the Bible in America. What he found may surprise you.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Kenneth Briggs went on a road trip to discover the condition of the Bible in America. What he found may surprise you.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3309</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1621 - Rabbi in the Whirlwind: Niles Elliot Goldstein</title>
      <description>Our guest, Rabbi Niles Goldstein, is the author of ten books. His new book, Eight Questions of Faith, is part memoir and part scriptural investigation.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 23 Oct 2016 15:54:20 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7d06bab4-0338-11e9-b1d6-33b57b05ffae/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest, Rabbi Niles Goldstein, is the author of ten books. His new book, Eight Questions of Faith, is part memoir and part scriptural investigation.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest, Rabbi Niles Goldstein, is the author of ten books. His new book, Eight Questions of Faith, is part memoir and part scriptural investigation.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest, Rabbi Niles Goldstein, is the author of ten books. His new book, Eight Questions of Faith, is part memoir and part scriptural investigation.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3311</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1619 - Education for Dignity and Opportunity: Glenn Wilke</title>
      <description>The Midtown Educational Foundation has been helping low-income students in Chicago graduate from high school and enter college since 1965 through a series of summer and after-school programs. This week we speak with Glenn Wilke, Midtown's executive director, about the blessings he has seen in his many years with the program.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Oct 2016 16:04:04 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7e330942-0338-11e9-b1d6-2fed3dfe2f07/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>The Midtown Educational Foundation has been helping low-income students in Chicago graduate from high school and enter college since 1965 through a series of summer and after-school programs. This week we speak with Glenn Wilke, Midtown's executive direct</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The Midtown Educational Foundation has been helping low-income students in Chicago graduate from high school and enter college since 1965 through a series of summer and after-school programs. This week we speak with Glenn Wilke, Midtown's executive director, about the blessings he has seen in his many years with the program.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>The Midtown Educational Foundation has been helping low-income students in Chicago graduate from high school and enter college since 1965 through a series of summer and after-school programs. This week we speak with Glenn Wilke, Midtown's executive director, about the blessings he has seen in his many years with the program.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3311</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[c009591c45b7a96534faa7c134a30064]]></guid>
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      <title>#1620 - The Faithful Futility: Mark Osler</title>
      <description>Mark Osler's journey has led him from fierce prosecution of drug offenders to arguing for clemency and leniency. He is the author of the new book, Prosecuting Jesus.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 09 Oct 2016 16:12:13 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7fee50fc-0338-11e9-b1d6-4b36b1decafb/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Mark Osler's journey has led him from fierce prosecution of drug offenders to arguing for clemency and leniency. He is the author of the new book, Prosecuting Jesus.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Mark Osler's journey has led him from fierce prosecution of drug offenders to arguing for clemency and leniency. He is the author of the new book, Prosecuting Jesus.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Mark Osler's journey has led him from fierce prosecution of drug offenders to arguing for clemency and leniency. He is the author of the new book, <em>Prosecuting Jesus</em>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3310</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[ab1234c434315f0feb487483d206bd75]]></guid>
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      <title>#1407b - Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf [REBROADCAST]</title>
      <description>We revisit our 2014 interview with the challenging and engaging Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf.
 For some, a lightning rod. For others, an international voice of reason and reconciliation. For us, a fascinating conversation about the face of Islam in contemporary international politics, and the vital need for hospitality and honest conversation between Islam and the west. We present the first half of David Dault's in-depth conversation with Imam Rauf, where we discuss misconceptions about Islam and the core of religious identity.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 02 Oct 2016 14:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/814f1576-0338-11e9-b1d6-033d72fd0135/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our 2014 interview with the challenging and engaging Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit our 2014 interview with the challenging and engaging Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf.
 For some, a lightning rod. For others, an international voice of reason and reconciliation. For us, a fascinating conversation about the face of Islam in contemporary international politics, and the vital need for hospitality and honest conversation between Islam and the west. We present the first half of David Dault's in-depth conversation with Imam Rauf, where we discuss misconceptions about Islam and the core of religious identity.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit our 2014 interview with the challenging and engaging Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf.</p> <p>For some, a lightning rod. For others, an international voice of reason and reconciliation. For us, a fascinating conversation about the face of Islam in contemporary international politics, and the vital need for hospitality and honest conversation between Islam and the west. We present the first half of David Dault's in-depth conversation with Imam Rauf, where we discuss misconceptions about Islam and the core of religious identity.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3309</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[e24f1bc2c18f3d41727fa9df3ab60043]]></guid>
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      <title>#1618 - The Liturgical Archipelago: Jonathan Meiburg</title>
      <description>Jonathan Meiburg is a musician who writes and records with the band Shearwater. He also has traveled to the remote ends of the earth to explore wildlife and landscapes few humans have seen. In this wide ranging conversation, we talk about the human moment - a mere blink in geologic history - and why we work so hard to create meaning in the midst of the wilderness we live in.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2016 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/83a3173c-0338-11e9-b1d6-bf7b31003f64/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Jonathan Meiburg is a musician who writes and records with the band Shearwater. He also has traveled to the remote ends of the earth to explore wildlife and landscapes few humans have seen. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Jonathan Meiburg is a musician who writes and records with the band Shearwater. He also has traveled to the remote ends of the earth to explore wildlife and landscapes few humans have seen. In this wide ranging conversation, we talk about the human moment - a mere blink in geologic history - and why we work so hard to create meaning in the midst of the wilderness we live in.
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        <![CDATA[<p>Jonathan Meiburg is a musician who writes and records with the band Shearwater. He also has traveled to the remote ends of the earth to explore wildlife and landscapes few humans have seen. In this wide ranging conversation, we talk about the human moment - a mere blink in geologic history - and why we work so hard to create meaning in the midst of the wilderness we live in.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3311</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1617 - A Place To Truly Give Ourselves Away: Rev. Troy Bronsink</title>
      <description>We speak to Troy Bronsink about his work as a minister and artist, and about his new center for art and contemplation, The Hive, in Cincinnati
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      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2016 23:32:16 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/84f2e1f8-0338-11e9-b1d6-ebe35b940ad9/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak to Troy Bronsink about his work as a minister and artist, and about his new center for art and contemplation, The Hive, in Cincinnati</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We speak to Troy Bronsink about his work as a minister and artist, and about his new center for art and contemplation, The Hive, in Cincinnati
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        <![CDATA[<p>We speak to Troy Bronsink about his work as a minister and artist, and about his new center for art and contemplation, The Hive, in Cincinnati</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3311</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1616 - Exploring the Meaning of Peace: John Noltner</title>
      <description>Our guest John Noltner has driven thousands of miles to photograph people and ask them the question, "What does peace mean to you?" The result is a series of books, a website, and traveling exhibits that explore "A Peace of My Mind."
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      <pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2016 14:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/8650ff08-0338-11e9-b1d6-8bd3bc716d1f/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Our guest John Noltner has driven thousands of miles to photograph people and ask them the question, "What does peace mean to you?" </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our guest John Noltner has driven thousands of miles to photograph people and ask them the question, "What does peace mean to you?" The result is a series of books, a website, and traveling exhibits that explore "A Peace of My Mind."
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Our guest John Noltner has driven thousands of miles to photograph people and ask them the question, "What does peace mean to you?" The result is a series of books, a website, and traveling exhibits that explore "A Peace of My Mind."</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3311</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1615 - Pax Americana, Shalom Americana: Lisa Sharon Harper</title>
      <description>We speak to author Lisa Sharon Harper about her new book, The Very Good Gospel: How Everything Wrong Can Be Made Right Again. Harper looks at our disordered world through the biblical lens of Shalom - a word that means "peace," but with a depth and complexity that affects all earthly relations.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2016 13:40:07 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/87c68f1a-0338-11e9-b1d6-8f434394fc21/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak to author Lisa Sharon Harper about her new book, The Very Good Gospel.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We speak to author Lisa Sharon Harper about her new book, The Very Good Gospel: How Everything Wrong Can Be Made Right Again. Harper looks at our disordered world through the biblical lens of Shalom - a word that means "peace," but with a depth and complexity that affects all earthly relations.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We speak to author Lisa Sharon Harper about her new book, <em>The Very Good Gospel: How Everything Wrong Can Be Made Right Again</em>. Harper looks at our disordered world through the biblical lens of <em>Shalom</em> - a word that means "peace," but with a depth and complexity that affects all earthly relations.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3309</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1614 - Keeping the Covenant: Rev. Katherine Willis Pershey</title>
      <description>We talk to Rev. Katherine Willis Pershey about her new book, Very Married: Field Notes on Love and Fidelity
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      <pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2016 13:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/892f0242-0338-11e9-b1d6-9fbab928fbe3/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk to Rev. Katherine Willis Pershey about her new book, Very Married</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We talk to Rev. Katherine Willis Pershey about her new book, Very Married: Field Notes on Love and Fidelity
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We talk to Rev. Katherine Willis Pershey about her new book, <em>Very Married: Field Notes on Love and Fidelity</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3312</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[f32a273c95e3f547c5fd7175a318d314]]></guid>
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      <title>#1613 - The Limits of Chastity: Rev. Bromleigh McCleneghan</title>
      <description>We talk to Rev. Bromleigh McCleneghan about her new book, Good Christian Sex: Why Chastity Isn't the Only Option - And Other Things the Bible Says About Sex. Rev. McCleneghan takes a progressive approach to scriptural interpretation. She draws upon extensive research, and her own experiences, to bring a contemporary approach to Christian sexuality.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2016 14:06:30 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/8ac6eb1a-0338-11e9-b1d6-6b1ddb5365c3/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk to Rev. Bromleigh McCleneghan about her new book, Good Christian Sex: Why Chastity Isn't the Only Option</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We talk to Rev. Bromleigh McCleneghan about her new book, Good Christian Sex: Why Chastity Isn't the Only Option - And Other Things the Bible Says About Sex. Rev. McCleneghan takes a progressive approach to scriptural interpretation. She draws upon extensive research, and her own experiences, to bring a contemporary approach to Christian sexuality.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We talk to Rev. Bromleigh McCleneghan about her new book, Good Christian Sex: Why Chastity Isn't the Only Option - And Other Things the Bible Says About Sex. Rev. McCleneghan takes a progressive approach to scriptural interpretation. She draws upon extensive research, and her own experiences, to bring a contemporary approach to Christian sexuality.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3309</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1612 - Moving Faithfully Beyond the Limitations - Bishop John Shelby Spong</title>
      <description>We speak with retired Episcopal Bishop John Shelby Spong about his long career, and some of his iconoclastic stances toward faith.  aWe also talk about his new book, Biblical Literalism: A Gentile Heresy
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      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2016 17:06:05 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/8c03be22-0338-11e9-b1d6-c3a41476a806/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak with Bishop Spong about his long career, some of his iconoclastic stances toward faith, and about his new book, Biblical Literalism: A Gentile Heresy</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We speak with retired Episcopal Bishop John Shelby Spong about his long career, and some of his iconoclastic stances toward faith.  aWe also talk about his new book, Biblical Literalism: A Gentile Heresy
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We speak with retired Episcopal Bishop John Shelby Spong about his long career, and some of his iconoclastic stances toward faith.  aWe also talk about his new book, Biblical Literalism: A Gentile Heresy</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3307</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1304b - No Faith Required: Chris Stedman [REBROADCAST]</title>
      <description>We revisit our 2013 conversation with Chris Stedman, author of Faithiest: How and Atheist Found Common Ground with the Religious.   At the time we spoke, Stedman was assistant humanist chaplain at Harvard University. He is now Executive Director of the Yale Humanist Center at Yale University.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 07 Aug 2016 13:23:36 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/8dab6e50-0338-11e9-b1d6-6bb374e47aae/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our 2013 conversation with Chris Stedman, author of Faithiest. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit our 2013 conversation with Chris Stedman, author of Faithiest: How and Atheist Found Common Ground with the Religious.   At the time we spoke, Stedman was assistant humanist chaplain at Harvard University. He is now Executive Director of the Yale Humanist Center at Yale University.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit our 2013 conversation with Chris Stedman, author of Faithiest: How and Atheist Found Common Ground with the Religious. <br /> <br /> At the time we spoke, Stedman was assistant humanist chaplain at Harvard University. He is now Executive Director of the Yale Humanist Center at Yale University.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3244</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1611 - Faith, The Universe, and Everything: Rev. Dr. Paul Wallace</title>
      <description>Paul Wallace is both a scientist and a minister. He is an ordained Baptist pastor, and he teaches astrophysics at Agnes Scott College in Atlanta. His life has been spent contemplating the relationship between these two parts of his identity. We discuss his new book, Stars Beneath Us: Finding God in the Evolving Cosmos
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      <pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2016 16:05:41 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/8f0bfe22-0338-11e9-b1d6-eff545a76821/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Paul Wallace is both a scientist and a minister. We discuss his new book, Stars Beneath Us: Finding God in the Evolving Cosmos</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Paul Wallace is both a scientist and a minister. He is an ordained Baptist pastor, and he teaches astrophysics at Agnes Scott College in Atlanta. His life has been spent contemplating the relationship between these two parts of his identity. We discuss his new book, Stars Beneath Us: Finding God in the Evolving Cosmos
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Paul Wallace is both a scientist and a minister. He is an ordained Baptist pastor, and he teaches astrophysics at Agnes Scott College in Atlanta. His life has been spent contemplating the relationship between these two parts of his identity. We discuss his new book, Stars Beneath Us: Finding God in the Evolving Cosmos</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3248</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1610 - Drugs, Mercy, and the Gospel: Rev. Alexander Sharp</title>
      <description>Rev. Sharp is the founder of Clergy for a New Drug Policy. We talk about his vision to change America's approach to drug prosecution, and why he thinks the churches need to be involved.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2016 15:17:25 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/906b3dfa-0338-11e9-b1d6-db88cbfe1999/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Rev. Sharp is the founder of Clergy for a New Drug Policy. We talk about his vision to change America's approach to drug prosecution, and why he thinks the churches need to be involved.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Rev. Sharp is the founder of Clergy for a New Drug Policy. We talk about his vision to change America's approach to drug prosecution, and why he thinks the churches need to be involved.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Rev. Sharp is the founder of <a href= "http://www.newdrugpolicy.org" target="_blank">Clergy for a New Drug Policy</a>. We talk about his vision to change America's approach to drug prosecution, and why he thinks the churches need to be involved.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3244</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1609 - R&amp;B Pastor: Rev. Julian "J-Kwest" DeShazier</title>
      <description>Julian DeShazier brings all his talents to ministry, as a minister, activist, and performer. He speaks to us about his work at University Church in Chicago, as well as his new album, "#Lemonade."
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      <pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2016 15:17:19 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/91cddbda-0338-11e9-b1d6-1b3c74148e2a/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Julian DeShazier brings all his talents to ministry, as a minister, activist, and performer.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Julian DeShazier brings all his talents to ministry, as a minister, activist, and performer. He speaks to us about his work at University Church in Chicago, as well as his new album, "#Lemonade."
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Julian DeShazier brings all his talents to ministry, as a minister, activist, and performer. He speaks to us about his work at University Church in Chicago, as well as his new album, "#Lemonade."</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3242</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1608 - When God Isn't Green: Jay Wexler</title>
      <description>We welcome back Boston Law Professor Jay Wexler to talk about his recent book, When God Isn't Gree, which finds him exploring the points around the globe where religion and environmentalism come into conflict.
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      <pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2016 14:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/93bb2ac4-0338-11e9-b1d6-4742b24bb568/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We welcome back Boston Law Professor Jay Wexler to talk about his recent book, which finds him exploring the points around the globe where religion and environmentalism come into conflict.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We welcome back Boston Law Professor Jay Wexler to talk about his recent book, When God Isn't Gree, which finds him exploring the points around the globe where religion and environmentalism come into conflict.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We welcome back Boston Law Professor Jay Wexler to talk about his recent book, When God Isn't Gree, which finds him exploring the points around the globe where religion and environmentalism come into conflict.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3328</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[4e596191692af5b671a026fb0731a55b]]></guid>
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      <title>#1607 - Rediscovering the Jewish Jesus: Rabbi Evan Moffic</title>
      <description>We talk with rabbi and author Evan Moffic about his new book, What Every Christian Needs to Know About the Jewishness of Jesus.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2016 01:25:34 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/95423e96-0338-11e9-b1d6-070a22ad2b3c/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk with rabbi and author Evan Moffic about his new book, What Every Christian Needs to Know About the Jewishness of Jesus.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We talk with rabbi and author Evan Moffic about his new book, What Every Christian Needs to Know About the Jewishness of Jesus.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We talk with rabbi and author Evan Moffic about his new book, What Every Christian Needs to Know About the Jewishness of Jesus.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3142</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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    <item>
      <title>#1606 - Public Education and Religion: Linda K. Wertheimer</title>
      <description>We talk with Linda K. Wertheimer about her newbook,FaithEd:Teaching about Religion in an Age of Intolerance,which looks at the battles over teaching religion in publicschools.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2016 21:32:24 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/a20ebd48-0338-11e9-b1d6-97b2ea16f6af/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk with Linda K. Wertheimer about her new book, Faith Ed: Teaching about Religion in an Age of Intolerance</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We talk with Linda K. Wertheimer about her newbook,FaithEd:Teaching about Religion in an Age of Intolerance,which looks at the battles over teaching religion in publicschools.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We talk with Linda K. Wertheimer about her newbook,FaithEd:Teaching about Religion in an Age of Intolerance,which looks at the battles over teaching religion in publicschools.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3242</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[38abc66d593c90d8a9942681918d7158]]></guid>
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    <item>
      <title>#1605 - New Tunes for Beloved Words: Rick Lee James</title>
      <description>Rick Lee James is a
music minister, writer, podcaster, and traveling musician. His new
album, 
Hymns, Prayers, and Invitations, brings together both his
original compositions, as well as his re-imaginings of well-known
and well-loved old hymns.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2016 21:45:04 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/a3619b2a-0338-11e9-b1d6-c79bc795a37a/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Rick Lee James is a music minister, writer, podcaster, and traveling musician. His new album, Hymns, Prayers, and Invitations, brings together both his original compositions, as well as his re-imaginings of well-known and well-loved old hymns.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Rick Lee James is a
music minister, writer, podcaster, and traveling musician. His new
album, 
Hymns, Prayers, and Invitations, brings together both his
original compositions, as well as his re-imaginings of well-known
and well-loved old hymns.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p><strong><a class="" title="" href=
"http://www.rickleejames.com/">Rick Lee James</a></strong> is a
music minister, writer, podcaster, and traveling musician. His new
album, <em><a class="" title="" href=
"https://www.amazon.com/Hymns-Prayers-Invitations-Rick-James/dp/B01AQPXPQ4/ref=as_sl_pc_qf_sp_asin_til?tag=thingsnotseen-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=HWPPHX4PHDV467AN&creativeASIN=B01AQPXPQ4">
Hymns, Prayers, and Invitations</a></em>, brings together both his
original compositions, as well as his re-imaginings of well-known
and well-loved old hymns.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3244</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[6e74df647ffc4b0af1b982e7659ac7d1]]></guid>
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    <item>
      <title>#1603 - Rethinking the Church in the 21st Century: Diana Butler-Bass</title>
      <description>David Dault interviews Diana Butler-Bass about her new book, Grounded
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      <pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2016 03:31:13 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/a617e6f8-0338-11e9-b1d6-7fd253f06d24/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>David Dault interviews Diana Butler-Bass about her new book, Grounded</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>David Dault interviews Diana Butler-Bass about her new book, Grounded
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>David Dault interviews Diana Butler-Bass about her new book, Grounded</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3243</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[b048706ee6e3bcf87099cb1eea1d1869]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM6397533317.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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    <item>
      <title>#1601 - A Ministry of Accompaniment: Marge Nykaza</title>
      <description>Marge Nykaza is the founder and director of Harmony, Hope and Healing - a ministry to homeless and under-resourced families across the Chicago area. The most visible part of the ministry is choral groups composed of the homeless - but as Nykaza points out, their work is much more about the soul repair, which happens through the music.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2016 14:33:42 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/a924e968-0338-11e9-b1d6-4f74f77eda83/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Marge Nykaza is the founder and director of Harmony, Hope and Healing - a ministry to homeless and under-resourced families across the Chicago area. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Marge Nykaza is the founder and director of Harmony, Hope and Healing - a ministry to homeless and under-resourced families across the Chicago area. The most visible part of the ministry is choral groups composed of the homeless - but as Nykaza points out, their work is much more about the soul repair, which happens through the music.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Marge Nykaza is the founder and director of Harmony, Hope and Healing - a ministry to homeless and under-resourced families across the Chicago area. The most visible part of the ministry is choral groups composed of the homeless - but as Nykaza points out, their work is much more about the soul repair, which happens through the music.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3245</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[fa3efcf2cf90910d7094ecb440747d78]]></guid>
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    <item>
      <title>#1604 - The Seven Last Words of Jesus: Fr. James Martin, SJ</title>
      <description>Around the world, Catholic and Protestant Christians are making preparations for Holy Week, a series of worship services leading up Easter, the day that Christians proclaim Jesus Christ was raised from the dead. During the day known as Good Friday,there is a tradition in many Christian communities to reflect on a series of phrases known as the "Seven Last Words" of Jesus as he hung on the cross.
We speak with Fr. James Martin about his new book, Seven Last Words, a collection of his meditations on the final hours of Jesus, and what it means for believers and nonbelievers alike. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 20 Mar 2016 22:51:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/ac17717c-0338-11e9-b1d6-57f9ed0eaa84/image/TNS_Logo_300x300.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak with Fr. James Martin about his new book, Seven Last Words, a collection of his meditations on the final hours of Jesus, and what it means for believers and nonbelievers alike. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Around the world, Catholic and Protestant Christians are making preparations for Holy Week, a series of worship services leading up Easter, the day that Christians proclaim Jesus Christ was raised from the dead. During the day known as Good Friday,there is a tradition in many Christian communities to reflect on a series of phrases known as the "Seven Last Words" of Jesus as he hung on the cross.
We speak with Fr. James Martin about his new book, Seven Last Words, a collection of his meditations on the final hours of Jesus, and what it means for believers and nonbelievers alike. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Around the world, Catholic and Protestant Christians are making preparations for Holy Week, a series of worship services leading up Easter, the day that Christians proclaim Jesus Christ was raised from the dead. During the day known as Good Friday,there is a tradition in many Christian communities to reflect on a series of phrases known as the "Seven Last Words" of Jesus as he hung on the cross.</p><p>We speak with Fr. James Martin about his new book, Seven Last Words, a collection of his meditations on the final hours of Jesus, and what it means for believers and nonbelievers alike. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3423</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[d3927feb1f7bc54542490d06f457fb84]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM3173337952.mp3?updated=1617550320" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#1520 - Tastes of the Divine: Michelle Voss-Roberts</title>
      <description>We explore the new field of comparative theology as we discuss Professor Voss-Roberts's award-winning new book, Tastes of the Divine
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      <pubDate>Sun, 13 Mar 2016 21:08:46 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/ae2f6f82-0338-11e9-b1d6-8bbbc8c3badf/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We explore the new field of comparative theology as we discuss Professor Voss-Roberts's award-winning new book, Tastes of the Divine</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We explore the new field of comparative theology as we discuss Professor Voss-Roberts's award-winning new book, Tastes of the Divine
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We explore the new field of comparative theology as we discuss Professor Voss-Roberts's award-winning new book, <em>Tastes of the Divine</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3244</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[2b74791d4420155c7f607ef3776d1158]]></guid>
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    <item>
      <title>#1519 - The Synod on the Family: Peter Steinfels</title>
      <description>We talk to longtime Commonweal editor Peter Steinfels about the recent Synod on the Family, and its implications for both Catholics and Protestants
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      <pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2016 23:54:35 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/b232859c-0338-11e9-b1d6-a38102368ddc/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk to longtime Commonweal editor Peter Steinfels about the recent Synod on the Family, and its implications for both Catholics and Protestants</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We talk to longtime Commonweal editor Peter Steinfels about the recent Synod on the Family, and its implications for both Catholics and Protestants
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We talk to longtime <em>Commonweal</em> editor Peter Steinfels about the recent Synod on the Family, and its implications for both Catholics and Protestants</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3242</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[6040c1eea5ee482531a91443232a6922]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM2390063801.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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    <item>
      <title>#1518 - The Gospel Is Personal, Never Private: Jim Wallis</title>
      <description>We speak with Sojourners founder and bestselling author Jim Wallis about his life, his work, and his new book, America's Original Sin
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2016 10:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/b6fb737c-0338-11e9-b1d6-571d2528e8ed/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak with Sojourners founder and bestselling author Jim Wallis about his life, his work, and his new book, America's Original Sin</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We speak with Sojourners founder and bestselling author Jim Wallis about his life, his work, and his new book, America's Original Sin
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We speak with Sojourners founder and bestselling author Jim Wallis about his life, his work, and his new book, America's Original Sin</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3244</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[cdcacaf41fd19eda4e1e9c5d2b73088a]]></guid>
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      <title>#1517 - Dance, Sing, Clap, Laugh, Cry: Dr. Alton B. Pollard</title>
      <description>We speak with Dr. Alton Pollard, Dean of Howard Divinity School, about living the promise of the Gospel in a violent world
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2016 16:34:09 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/b9e72996-0338-11e9-b1d6-1b80b2e2022b/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak with Dr. Alton Pollard, Dean of Howard Divinity School, about living the promise of the Gospel in a violent world</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We speak with Dr. Alton Pollard, Dean of Howard Divinity School, about living the promise of the Gospel in a violent world
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We speak with Dr. Alton Pollard, Dean of Howard Divinity School, about living the promise of the Gospel in a violent world</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3244</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[c0ce9cc0c00aef0c19302a5ee7a8aaa7]]></guid>
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    <item>
      <title>#1516 - There by Grace: Nadia Bolz-Weber</title>
      <description>Tattoos, foul language, and a heart for the Gospel. Pastor and author Nadia Bolz-Weber talks about her new book, Accidental Saints, and the centrality of grace.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2015 21:45:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/c0571372-0338-11e9-b1d6-0f3dcfa7a508/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Tattoos, foul language, and a heart for the Gospel. Pastor and author Nadia Bolz-Weber talks about her new book, Accidental Saints, and the centrality of grace.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Tattoos, foul language, and a heart for the Gospel. Pastor and author Nadia Bolz-Weber talks about her new book, Accidental Saints, and the centrality of grace.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Tattoos, foul language, and a heart for the Gospel. Pastor and author Nadia Bolz-Weber talks about her new book, Accidental Saints, and the centrality of grace.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3406</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[c40010adbb4916da9eaa0e3f7c3a5617]]></guid>
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    <item>
      <title>#1514 - Stories from Pakistan: Saadia Faruqi</title>
      <description>An interview with Pakistani-American author Saadia Faruqi about her new book of short stories, Brick Walls
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2015 14:40:39 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/c69f7170-0338-11e9-b1d6-57207ad445e7/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>An interview with Pakistani-American author Saadia Faruqi about her new book of short stories, Brick Walls</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>An interview with Pakistani-American author Saadia Faruqi about her new book of short stories, Brick Walls
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>An interview with Pakistani-American author Saadia Faruqi about her new book of short stories, Brick Walls</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3244</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[c786871246fa532432f3586b12e6ec4b]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM9539466344.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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    <item>
      <title>#1515 - Civic Virtue: John Danforth on Religion and Politics</title>
      <description>In his new book, The Relevance of Religion, John Danforth argues that the voices of people of faith are needed today in the public square. 

Danforth is the former US Senator from Missouri, and he served as both attorney general and US Ambassador to the United Nations. He is also an ordained Episcopal priest.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2015 00:23:39 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/cd113d22-0338-11e9-b1d6-27bd9a770989/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>In his new book, The Relevance of Religion, John Danforth argues that the voices of people of faith are needed today in the public square. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In his new book, The Relevance of Religion, John Danforth argues that the voices of people of faith are needed today in the public square. 

Danforth is the former US Senator from Missouri, and he served as both attorney general and US Ambassador to the United Nations. He is also an ordained Episcopal priest.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In his new book, The Relevance of Religion, John Danforth argues that the voices of people of faith are needed today in the public square. </p>
<p>Danforth is the former US Senator from Missouri, and he served as both attorney general and US Ambassador to the United Nations. He is also an ordained Episcopal priest.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3242</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1513 - Soul Repair: Rita Nakashima Brock</title>
      <description>We speak to Dr. Rita Nakashima Brock about the healing after moral injury; Producer Katie Klocksin shares a piece with us about a church struggling with questions of public witness
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      <pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2015 22:47:35 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/cf0d84e6-0338-11e9-b1d6-2ba522e7f800/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak to Dr. Rita Nakashima Brock about the healing after moral injury; Producer Katie Klocksin shares a piece with us about a church struggling with public witness</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We speak to Dr. Rita Nakashima Brock about the healing after moral injury; Producer Katie Klocksin shares a piece with us about a church struggling with questions of public witness
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We speak to Dr. Rita Nakashima Brock about the healing after moral injury; Producer Katie Klocksin shares a piece with us about a church struggling with questions of public witness</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3992</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1203b - Holy Solitude: Robert Rhodes [REBROADCAST]</title>
      <description>We're revisiting our 2012 interview with Robert Rhodes.
In 1995, Robert Rhodes and his family sold most of their possessions ans went to live on the Minnesota prairie in religious seclusion.  Rhodes had gone to live among the Hutterites, a 500 year old religious movement centered on communal ownership of property, radical pacifism, and an intense fervor for the Gospel.
By 2002, Rhodes and his family had left the Hutterites.  He chronicles his six years there in the book Nightwatch: An Inquiry into Solitude.
Also on the broadcast, our producer-at-large Natasha Alford reflects on the shooting in Charleston, and a summer of violence.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2015 00:59:24 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/d5f2c64a-0338-11e9-b1d6-47a803bce4c4/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our 2012 interview with author and poet Robert Rhodes about his life among the Hutterites; our producer-at-large Natasha Alford reflects on the shootings in Charleston</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We're revisiting our 2012 interview with Robert Rhodes.
In 1995, Robert Rhodes and his family sold most of their possessions ans went to live on the Minnesota prairie in religious seclusion.  Rhodes had gone to live among the Hutterites, a 500 year old religious movement centered on communal ownership of property, radical pacifism, and an intense fervor for the Gospel.
By 2002, Rhodes and his family had left the Hutterites.  He chronicles his six years there in the book Nightwatch: An Inquiry into Solitude.
Also on the broadcast, our producer-at-large Natasha Alford reflects on the shooting in Charleston, and a summer of violence.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We're revisiting our 2012 interview with Robert Rhodes.
In 1995, <strong>Robert Rhodes </strong>and his family sold most of their possessions ans went to live on the Minnesota prairie in religious seclusion.  Rhodes had gone to live among the Hutterites, a 500 year old religious movement centered on communal ownership of property, radical pacifism, and an intense fervor for the Gospel.
By 2002, Rhodes and his family had left the Hutterites.  He chronicles his six years there in the book <em>Nightwatch: An Inquiry into Solitude</em>.
Also on the broadcast, our producer-at-large <strong>Natasha Alford</strong> reflects on the shooting in Charleston, and a summer of violence.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3244</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1417 - A Zeal for History: Looking for Jesus with Reza Aslan [REBROADCAST]</title>
      <description>We revisit our 2014 interview with Reza Aslan, author of Zealot, the Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth
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      <pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2015 22:17:38 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/daf9c594-0338-11e9-b1d6-fb79fd6f7ba2/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our 2014 interview with Reza Aslan, author of Zealot, the Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit our 2014 interview with Reza Aslan, author of Zealot, the Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit our 2014 interview with Reza Aslan, author of Zealot, the Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3244</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1512 - The Fear of Islam: Todd Green</title>
      <description>Todd Green returns to our show to discuss his new book, The Fear of Islam: an Introduction to Islamophobia in the West.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2015 13:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/dc8c5ac0-0338-11e9-b1d6-73c007bdf390/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Todd Green returns to our show to discuss his new book, The Fear of Islam: an Introduction to Islamophobia in the West</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Todd Green returns to our show to discuss his new book, The Fear of Islam: an Introduction to Islamophobia in the West.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Todd Green returns to our show to discuss his new book, The Fear of Islam: an Introduction to Islamophobia in the West.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3241</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[7e77dcdaf2a0f5161bd6242142f43dc7]]></guid>
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      <title>#1309 - My Job is to Love: Carl McColman (REBROADCAST)</title>
      <description>We revisit our 2013 interview with Christian contemplative, Carl McColman. We talk about his spiritual journey, and his work writing about the mystical tradition.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2015 16:26:58 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/ddec4ff6-0338-11e9-b1d6-f7d50b2e06da/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our 2013 interview with Christian contemplative, Carl McColman. We talk about his spiritual journey, and his work writing about the mystical tradition.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit our 2013 interview with Christian contemplative, Carl McColman. We talk about his spiritual journey, and his work writing about the mystical tradition.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit our 2013 interview with Christian contemplative, Carl McColman. We talk about his spiritual journey, and his work writing about the mystical tradition.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3244</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1205 - The Bible Does Not Exist: Timothy K. Beal [REBROADCAST]</title>
      <description>We're revisiting a 2012 interview with Tim Beal, author of The Rise and Fall of the Bible. At the time, the title of this episode got us into all kinds of trouble with our sponsors. David Dault talks a bit about that in the introduction to the show.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2015 23:24:32 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/e1bf3954-0338-11e9-b1d6-b3df519ae962/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We're revisiting a 2012 interview with Tim Beal, author of The Rise and Fall of the Bible. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We're revisiting a 2012 interview with Tim Beal, author of The Rise and Fall of the Bible. At the time, the title of this episode got us into all kinds of trouble with our sponsors. David Dault talks a bit about that in the introduction to the show.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We're revisiting a 2012 interview with Tim Beal, author of <em>The Rise and Fall of the Bible.</em> At the time, the title of this episode got us into all kinds of trouble with our sponsors. David Dault talks a bit about that in the introduction to the show.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3240</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[d4660a42a4afccc14d01cabf78ee70cc]]></guid>
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      <title>#1216b - Vatican II at Fifty [REBROADCAST]</title>
      <description>This is a rebroadcast of a 2012 interview with Fr. Cinquegrani. October 11, 2012, marked the 50th anniversary of the opening convocation of the Second Vatican Council. Called by Pope John XXIII, the decisions made at the council affected every aspect of theology and worship within the Church. In the wake of Vatican II, the Catholic Church began to worship in native languages, reaffirmed the centrality of the Bible in the life of the faithful, and began to reach out to the modern world and those of other faiths in unprecedented ways. Our guest, Fr. Bruce Cinquegrani, looks back over a lifetime spent in the priesthood. Fr. Bruce's ministry parallels the last half century of the post-Vatican II Church. Deciding to become a priest in the years immediately before the council, he entered the pastorate in a Church profoundly different than what he expected. Yet for Fr. Bruce, and many priest like him, his feelings are not of disappointment, but of hope for what is still to come as the effects of Vatican II continue to unfold. Fr. Bruce Cinquegrani is pastor of St. Brigid Parish, TN, and is Episcopal Vicar for Divine Worship, Spiritual Life, and Catechesis in the Diocese of Memphis.
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      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2015 01:40:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>12</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/e5bd88da-0338-11e9-b1d6-63be9ee0a0ee/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Fr. Bruce Cinquegrani looks back at the Second Vatican Council and its effects on the life of the Catholic Church</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This is a rebroadcast of a 2012 interview with Fr. Cinquegrani. October 11, 2012, marked the 50th anniversary of the opening convocation of the Second Vatican Council. Called by Pope John XXIII, the decisions made at the council affected every aspect of theology and worship within the Church. In the wake of Vatican II, the Catholic Church began to worship in native languages, reaffirmed the centrality of the Bible in the life of the faithful, and began to reach out to the modern world and those of other faiths in unprecedented ways. Our guest, Fr. Bruce Cinquegrani, looks back over a lifetime spent in the priesthood. Fr. Bruce's ministry parallels the last half century of the post-Vatican II Church. Deciding to become a priest in the years immediately before the council, he entered the pastorate in a Church profoundly different than what he expected. Yet for Fr. Bruce, and many priest like him, his feelings are not of disappointment, but of hope for what is still to come as the effects of Vatican II continue to unfold. Fr. Bruce Cinquegrani is pastor of St. Brigid Parish, TN, and is Episcopal Vicar for Divine Worship, Spiritual Life, and Catechesis in the Diocese of Memphis.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This is a rebroadcast of a 2012 interview with Fr. Cinquegrani. October 11, 2012, marked the 50th anniversary of the opening convocation of the Second Vatican Council. Called by Pope John XXIII, the decisions made at the council affected every aspect of theology and worship within the Church. In the wake of Vatican II, the Catholic Church began to worship in native languages, reaffirmed the centrality of the Bible in the life of the faithful, and began to reach out to the modern world and those of other faiths in unprecedented ways. Our guest, <strong>Fr. Bruce Cinquegrani</strong>, looks back over a lifetime spent in the priesthood. Fr. Bruce's ministry parallels the last half century of the post-Vatican II Church. Deciding to become a priest in the years immediately before the council, he entered the pastorate in a Church profoundly different than what he expected. Yet for Fr. Bruce, and many priest like him, his feelings are not of disappointment, but of hope for what is still to come as the effects of Vatican II continue to unfold. Fr. Bruce Cinquegrani is pastor of St. Brigid Parish, TN, and is Episcopal Vicar for Divine Worship, Spiritual Life, and Catechesis in the Diocese of Memphis.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3408</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1511 - The DNA of America: Rev. Jesse Jackson</title>
      <description>A conversation with noted civil rights leader Jesse Jackson, looking back on 50 years since the marches in Selma, and looking forward to what is yet to come.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2015 12:14:34 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/e76e2cc0-0338-11e9-b1d6-f7f21e4afb7f/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>A conversation with noted civil rights leader Jesse Jackson, looking back on 50 years since the marches in Selma</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>A conversation with noted civil rights leader Jesse Jackson, looking back on 50 years since the marches in Selma, and looking forward to what is yet to come.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>A conversation with noted civil rights leader Jesse Jackson, looking back on 50 years since the marches in Selma, and looking forward to what is yet to come.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3244</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1510 - Delighting in the Diminished Thing: Martin E. Marty</title>
      <description>A conversation with noted scholar of religion Martin E. Marty. We discuss religion in America, and look back upon a four-decade career
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      <pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2015 16:52:27 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/ed8e31cc-0338-11e9-b1d6-5bdec973c419/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>A conversation with noted scholar of religion Martin E. Marty. We discuss religion in America, and look back upon a four-decade career</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>A conversation with noted scholar of religion Martin E. Marty. We discuss religion in America, and look back upon a four-decade career
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>A conversation with noted scholar of religion Martin E. Marty. We discuss religion in America, and look back upon a four-decade career</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3244</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1222b- Pentecostal and Postmodern: J. Aaron Simmons (REBROADCAST)</title>
      <description>We revisit our 2012 interview with Furman University philosophy professor J. Aaron Simmons, to discuss the relationship of Christianity and postmodern thought
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      <pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2015 13:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/ef2f581c-0338-11e9-b1d6-eb9e14b51d52/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our 2012 interview with Furman University philosophy professor J. Aaron Simmons, to discuss the relationship of Christianity and postmodern thought</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit our 2012 interview with Furman University philosophy professor J. Aaron Simmons, to discuss the relationship of Christianity and postmodern thought
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We revisit our 2012 interview with Furman University philosophy professor J. Aaron Simmons, to discuss the relationship of Christianity and postmodern thought</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3244</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1509 - The New Jim Crow: Michelle Alexander</title>
      <description>Michelle Alexander's work examines the hidden structures of control exerted by our criminal justice system, and the effects this control has particularly on minority populations in America. Hew 2010 book, The New Jim Crow, set the tone of the conversation for understanding recent events in race relations.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2015 17:19:03 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/f2f048bc-0338-11e9-b1d6-97a40d998149/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak with author, law professor, and activist Michelle Alexander about the use of mass incarceration as a new form of Jim Crow in America</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Michelle Alexander's work examines the hidden structures of control exerted by our criminal justice system, and the effects this control has particularly on minority populations in America. Hew 2010 book, The New Jim Crow, set the tone of the conversation for understanding recent events in race relations.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Michelle Alexander's work examines the hidden structures of control exerted by our criminal justice system, and the effects this control has particularly on minority populations in America. Hew 2010 book, The New Jim Crow, set the tone of the conversation for understanding recent events in race relations.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3243</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1508 - Fine-Tuning Our Truth Box: Nancy Ellen Abrams</title>
      <description>We talk with Nancy Ellen Abrams, author of A God That Could Be Real: Spirituality, Science, and the Future of Our Planet, about new discoveries in cosmology and their profound effect on our understanding of the universe and religion.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2015 13:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/f6d17186-0338-11e9-b1d6-fb710c163054/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk with Nancy Ellen Abrams, author of A God That Could Be Real, about new discoveries in cosmology and their profound effect on our understanding of the universe and religion.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We talk with Nancy Ellen Abrams, author of A God That Could Be Real: Spirituality, Science, and the Future of Our Planet, about new discoveries in cosmology and their profound effect on our understanding of the universe and religion.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We talk with Nancy Ellen Abrams, author of <em>A God That Could Be Real: Spirituality, Science, and the Future of Our Planet</em>, about new discoveries in cosmology and their profound effect on our understanding of the universe and religion.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3124</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[6d92c050b5e9d94bf022442e2d06bfd2]]></guid>
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      <title>#1401b - Emerging, Emergence, Emergent: Phyllis Tickle (Rebroadcast)</title>
      <description>We're rebroadcasting our 2014 interview with Phyllis Tickle. In our conversation we explore the idea that our culture has been shaped by roughly 500-year cycles, which have helped define our major religious traditions for the past two millennia. According to Tickle, our present epoch - referred to by some as "The Great Emergence" - has the potential to yield a new Christianity distinct from Protestantism, Catholicism, and Orthodoxy.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2015 13:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/f87d91ea-0338-11e9-b1d6-37e08a9f64c3/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We're rebroadcasting our 2014 interview with Phyllis Tickle, who has been studying "The Great Emergence" - a new epoch affecting both Christianity and the world.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We're rebroadcasting our 2014 interview with Phyllis Tickle. In our conversation we explore the idea that our culture has been shaped by roughly 500-year cycles, which have helped define our major religious traditions for the past two millennia. According to Tickle, our present epoch - referred to by some as "The Great Emergence" - has the potential to yield a new Christianity distinct from Protestantism, Catholicism, and Orthodoxy.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We're rebroadcasting our 2014 interview with Phyllis Tickle. In our conversation we explore the idea that our culture has been shaped by roughly 500-year cycles, which have helped define our major religious traditions for the past two millennia. According to Tickle, our present epoch - referred to by some as "The Great Emergence" - has the potential to yield a new Christianity distinct from Protestantism, Catholicism, and Orthodoxy.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3123</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[35d4cbef29e407c36b2a4e0484685e99]]></guid>
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      <title>#1507 - See For Yourself: Jennifer Grace Bird</title>
      <description>We speak to biblical scholar Jennifer Grace bird about her new book, Permission Granted: Take the Bible into Your Own Hands
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2015 13:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/f9da87dc-0338-11e9-b1d6-f366a40184ca/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak to biblical scholar Jennifer Grace bird about her new book, Permission Granted: Take the Bible into Your Own Hands</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We speak to biblical scholar Jennifer Grace bird about her new book, Permission Granted: Take the Bible into Your Own Hands
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We speak to biblical scholar Jennifer Grace bird about her new book, Permission Granted: Take the Bible into Your Own Hands</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3124</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[553d27e38e6a7d8940c1d6630b5f9ed3]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM2430346893.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#1208b - Rama, Sita, and Me: Nina Paley REBROADCAST</title>
      <description>In 2012, David Dault interviewed artist, cartoonist, and animator Nina Paley, creator of the 86-minute animated film, Sita Sings the Blues.  We are rebroadcasting the full interview this week.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2015 23:26:58 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/fb17b1a6-0338-11e9-b1d6-3faca2c5b1f9/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our 2012 interview with animator and cartoonist, Nina Paley</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In 2012, David Dault interviewed artist, cartoonist, and animator Nina Paley, creator of the 86-minute animated film, Sita Sings the Blues.  We are rebroadcasting the full interview this week.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In 2012, David Dault interviewed artist, cartoonist, and animator Nina Paley, creator of the 86-minute animated film, <em>Sita Sings the Blues.  </em>We are rebroadcasting the full interview this week.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3124</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[b207320e10ddf5d8f714360799fd9290]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM5138679015.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#1506 - Bringing the Word to Life: Curt Cloninger</title>
      <description>This hour we speak to actor and director Curt Cloninger, who has spent 30 years traveling the country performing thoughtful and thought-provoking one-man shows.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2015 17:20:22 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/fd16918e-0338-11e9-b1d6-6f55df8aeb1c/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>This hour we speak to actor and director Curt Cloninger, who has spent 30 years traveling the country performing thoughtful and thought-provoking one-man shows.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This hour we speak to actor and director Curt Cloninger, who has spent 30 years traveling the country performing thoughtful and thought-provoking one-man shows.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This hour we speak to actor and director Curt Cloninger, who has spent 30 years traveling the country performing thoughtful and thought-provoking one-man shows.<br /><br /></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3125</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[3ae55045f08163576ab76b4bfd0904fc]]></guid>
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    <item>
      <title>#1505 - Poetry and Silence: Judith Valente</title>
      <description>Our host David Dault speaks with award-winning poet, author, and journalist Judith Valente. We discuss her career as a religion reporter, as well as her explorations of modern monasticism.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2015 12:45:44 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/fea3abea-0338-11e9-b1d6-677848192ba1/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We speak with award-winning poet, author, and journalist Judith Valente. We discuss her career as a religion reporter, as well as her explorations of modern monasticism.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Our host David Dault speaks with award-winning poet, author, and journalist Judith Valente. We discuss her career as a religion reporter, as well as her explorations of modern monasticism.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our host David Dault speaks with award-winning poet, author, and journalist Judith Valente. We discuss her career as a religion reporter, as well as her explorations of modern monasticism.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3112</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[293371a473a304ddb7c895e64c6a726b]]></guid>
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      <title>#1214 - The Dance of Faiths: John Thatamanil - Rebroadcast</title>
      <description>We revisit our 2012 interview with Union Theological Seminary professor John Thatamanil.Theologian and professor John J. Thatamanil discusses the growing field of "religious pluralism" - where the boundaries of "religion" are loosened and faith traditions are encouraged to mix and blend.  While a controversial concept to some, Thatamanil insists that theologies of religious pluralism are simply exploring the reality of religious mixture that has always been happening, whether we admit it or not. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2015 14:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/ffc75f44-0338-11e9-b1d6-630e697220ea/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We revisit our 2012 interview with Union Theological Seminary professor John Thatamanil.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We revisit our 2012 interview with Union Theological Seminary professor John Thatamanil.Theologian and professor John J. Thatamanil discusses the growing field of "religious pluralism" - where the boundaries of "religion" are loosened and faith traditions are encouraged to mix and blend.  While a controversial concept to some, Thatamanil insists that theologies of religious pluralism are simply exploring the reality of religious mixture that has always been happening, whether we admit it or not. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #22242f; font-family: 'Open Sans', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 11.6639995574951px; line-height: 20.1599998474121px;">We revisit our 2012 interview with Union Theological Seminary professor John Thatamanil.<br /><br />Theologian and professor John J. Thatamanil discusses the growing field of "religious pluralism" - where the boundaries of "religion" are loosened and faith traditions are encouraged to mix and blend.  While a controversial concept to some, Thatamanil insists that theologies of religious pluralism are simply exploring the reality of religious mixture that has always been happening, whether we admit it or not. </span></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3127</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[270c0a6cebe7837e7033a9900b34e9b6]]></guid>
      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/traffic.megaphone.fm/SM1048024372.mp3" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>#1223 - American Secularism: Jacques Berlinerblau</title>
      <description>This week we revisit a 2012 conversation with Jacques Berlinerblau about his book, How to be Secular; Katie Lynn Murphy files a report from China
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      <pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2015 16:02:15 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/0343a39e-0339-11e9-b1d6-0b043c78f8b8/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we revisit a 2012 conversation with Jacques Berlinerblau about his book, How to be Secular; Katie Lynn Murphy files a report from China</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This week we revisit a 2012 conversation with Jacques Berlinerblau about his book, How to be Secular; Katie Lynn Murphy files a report from China
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we revisit a 2012 conversation with Jacques Berlinerblau about his book, How to be Secular; Katie Lynn Murphy files a report from China</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3125</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[4cfb39bc5edd91a96b4a66d0b77097f4]]></guid>
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      <title>#1504 - Feminism and Religion: Gina Messina-Dysert</title>
      <description>A frank conversation about the experience of women in religious communities and in academia with our guest, Dr. Gina Messina-Dysert - one of the founders of the blog Feminism and Religion.

Also on the show, Katy Scrogin reviews Ted A Smith's new book, Weird John Brown
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2015 14:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/054044cc-0339-11e9-b1d6-fb9c963c0dea/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>A frank conversation about the experience of women in religious communities and in academia with our guest, Dr. Gina Messina-Dysert; Katy Scrogin reviews Ted A Smith's new book, Weird John Brown</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>A frank conversation about the experience of women in religious communities and in academia with our guest, Dr. Gina Messina-Dysert - one of the founders of the blog Feminism and Religion.

Also on the show, Katy Scrogin reviews Ted A Smith's new book, Weird John Brown
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>A frank conversation about the experience of women in religious communities and in academia with our guest, Dr. Gina Messina-Dysert - one of the founders of the blog Feminism and Religion.</p>
<p>Also on the show, Katy Scrogin reviews Ted A Smith's new book, Weird John Brown</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3154</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[bd231f8f28485e6ef0e00cf28124236c]]></guid>
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      <title>#1503 - Exploring the Roots of Violence: E.L. Kornegay </title>
      <description>We talk with Dr. E.L. Kornegay, founder of the Baldwin-Delaney Institute, about programs to address the sources of violence in our communities
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      <pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2015 14:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/07b5a1c0-0339-11e9-b1d6-a35b62882396/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk with Dr. E.L. Kornegay, founder of the Baldwin-Delaney Institute, about programs to address the sources of violence in our communities</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We talk with Dr. E.L. Kornegay, founder of the Baldwin-Delaney Institute, about programs to address the sources of violence in our communities
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We talk with Dr. E.L. Kornegay, founder of the Baldwin-Delaney Institute, about programs to address the sources of violence in our communities</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3123</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[e5661533b9481ec35324c29badb098d1]]></guid>
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      <title>#1202a - Islamophobia: Todd Green - Rebroadcast</title>
      <description>This week we go back into the archives to our 2012 interview with Todd Green about the fear of Islam in the west, and Hollis Phelps reviews the new book by Mike Huckabee
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2015 14:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/095729b8-0339-11e9-b1d6-07eb5368cdd1/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we go back into the archives to our 2012 interview with Todd Green about the fear of Islam in the west; Hollis Phelps reviews the new book by Mike Huckabee</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This week we go back into the archives to our 2012 interview with Todd Green about the fear of Islam in the west, and Hollis Phelps reviews the new book by Mike Huckabee
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we go back into the archives to our 2012 interview with Todd Green about the fear of Islam in the west, and Hollis Phelps reviews the new book by Mike Huckabee</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3206</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1502 - The Divine on your Doorstep: Barbara Mahany</title>
      <description>Long time Chicago Tribune columnist Barbara Mahany has written a "book of common prayer" for everyday living, celebrating the divinity of everyday moments. The result is Slowing Time: Seeing the Sacred OUtside Your Kitchen Door.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2015 14:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Long time Chicago Tribune columnist Barbara Mahany has written a "book of common prayer" for everyday living, celebrating the divinity of everyday moments.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Long time Chicago Tribune columnist Barbara Mahany has written a "book of common prayer" for everyday living, celebrating the divinity of everyday moments. The result is Slowing Time: Seeing the Sacred OUtside Your Kitchen Door.
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        <![CDATA[<p>Long time Chicago Tribune columnist Barbara Mahany has written a "book of common prayer" for everyday living, celebrating the divinity of everyday moments. The result is Slowing Time: Seeing the Sacred OUtside Your Kitchen Door.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3014</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1501 - Healing from Regret: Michelle Van Loon</title>
      <description>Michelle Van Loon has been a writer for more than three decades. With her recent book, If Only: Letting Go of Regret, the author has turned her attention to the important subject of grief and regret, and has written a practical spiritual guide for getting over the feelings of "woulda, coulda, shoulda" that affect us all.
Also on the show, our producer-at-large, Natasha Alford, looks at how white pastors have been responding to the recent racial tensions in Ferguson and New York City.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2015 14:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/0cc921c8-0339-11e9-b1d6-bfcdaf1d204e/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>David Dault talks to author Michelle Van Loon about her book If Only: Letting Go of Regret; Natasha Alford reflects on the response of white pastors to the crisis in Ferguson</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Michelle Van Loon has been a writer for more than three decades. With her recent book, If Only: Letting Go of Regret, the author has turned her attention to the important subject of grief and regret, and has written a practical spiritual guide for getting over the feelings of "woulda, coulda, shoulda" that affect us all.
Also on the show, our producer-at-large, Natasha Alford, looks at how white pastors have been responding to the recent racial tensions in Ferguson and New York City.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Michelle Van Loon has been a writer for more than three decades. With her recent book, If Only: Letting Go of Regret, the author has turned her attention to the important subject of grief and regret, and has written a practical spiritual guide for getting over the feelings of "woulda, coulda, shoulda" that affect us all.
Also on the show, our producer-at-large, Natasha Alford, looks at how white pastors have been responding to the recent racial tensions in Ferguson and New York City.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3123</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1420 - Best of Both: Susan Katz Miller on Interfaith Families</title>
      <description>Author and journalist Susan Katz Miller is both an interfaith child and an interfaith parent. Her book, Being Both: Embracing Two Religions in One Interfaith Family, is both a memoir and a call to action for intentional interfaith community.  We talk about how her experiences have shaped her approach to family and religious practice, and the politics of raising interfaith families.

Also on the show, Natasha Alford goes behind the scenes with Salvation Army bell ringers.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2014 17:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/17a3e6f0-0339-11e9-b1d6-2bf4c6fd5755/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Susan Katz Miller is both a child and a parent in interfaith families, and speaks to us as an advocate for increased interfaith community; Natasha Alford goes behind the scenes with Salvation Army bell ringers.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Author and journalist Susan Katz Miller is both an interfaith child and an interfaith parent. Her book, Being Both: Embracing Two Religions in One Interfaith Family, is both a memoir and a call to action for intentional interfaith community.  We talk about how her experiences have shaped her approach to family and religious practice, and the politics of raising interfaith families.

Also on the show, Natasha Alford goes behind the scenes with Salvation Army bell ringers.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #260f04; font-family: 'Droid Sans', Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 24px;">Author and journalist Susan Katz Miller is both an interfaith child and an interfaith parent. Her book, <em>Being Both: Embracing Two Religions in One Interfaith Family</em>, is both a memoir and a call to action for intentional interfaith community.  We talk about how her experiences have shaped her approach to family and religious practice, and the politics of raising interfaith families.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #260f04; font-family: 'Droid Sans', Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 24px;">Also on the show, </span><span style="color: #260f04; font-family: 'Droid Sans', Arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 12px; line-height: 24px;">Natasha Alford goes behind the scenes with Salvation Army bell ringers.</span></span></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3214</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1419 - The Impossible Becoming Possible: Jeanne Bishop on Violence and Forgiveness</title>
      <description>On Palm Sunday in 1990, attorney Jeanne Bishop received a phone call with the news that three members of her family - including her sister - had been brutally murdered. We take the full hour of our show this week to hear Bishop's account of her twenty-five-year journey towards firgiveness and reconciliation with her sister's killer.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2014 17:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/190c81e6-0339-11e9-b1d6-93510753cbb4/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Attorney Jeanne Bishop speaks frankly about her twenty-five-year journey to reconcile with the man who murdered three members of her family </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>On Palm Sunday in 1990, attorney Jeanne Bishop received a phone call with the news that three members of her family - including her sister - had been brutally murdered. We take the full hour of our show this week to hear Bishop's account of her twenty-five-year journey towards firgiveness and reconciliation with her sister's killer.
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        <![CDATA[<p>On Palm Sunday in 1990, attorney Jeanne Bishop received a phone call with the news that three members of her family - including her sister - had been brutally murdered. We take the full hour of our show this week to hear Bishop's account of her twenty-five-year journey towards firgiveness and reconciliation with her sister's killer.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3123</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1418 - What's a Jesus? Gospel politics with Pastor Heidi Neumark</title>
      <description>Heidi Neumark spent twenty years as the pastor of Transfiguration Lutheran Church in the South Bronx in New York City, and has spent the past decade at Trinity Lutheran Church in Manhattan. At both posts, she has encountered the same need: people on the margins - cast out and unwanted - who need to hear the Good News that they are wanted, needed, and valued.So Reverend Neumark has focused her ministry on immigrants, the homeless, and queer and LGBTQ youth, offering them shelter and welcome in a city that is often harsh and violent.Host David Dault speaks to Reverend Neumark about what motivates her ministry, how she reads the Bible, and what gives her hope.Also on the show, our guest producer, Katie Lynn Murphy, files a report about her experiences of China during the recent protests.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2014 17:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/1aabe136-0339-11e9-b1d6-ab1e6532e943/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>For three decades Neumark has been ministering to the margins in New York City; Also on the show, Katie Lynn Murphy files a report from China</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Heidi Neumark spent twenty years as the pastor of Transfiguration Lutheran Church in the South Bronx in New York City, and has spent the past decade at Trinity Lutheran Church in Manhattan. At both posts, she has encountered the same need: people on the margins - cast out and unwanted - who need to hear the Good News that they are wanted, needed, and valued.So Reverend Neumark has focused her ministry on immigrants, the homeless, and queer and LGBTQ youth, offering them shelter and welcome in a city that is often harsh and violent.Host David Dault speaks to Reverend Neumark about what motivates her ministry, how she reads the Bible, and what gives her hope.Also on the show, our guest producer, Katie Lynn Murphy, files a report about her experiences of China during the recent protests.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Heidi Neumark spent twenty years as the pastor of Transfiguration Lutheran Church in the South Bronx in New York City, and has spent the past decade at Trinity Lutheran Church in Manhattan. At both posts, she has encountered the same need: people on the margins - cast out and unwanted - who need to hear the Good News that they are wanted, needed, and valued.<br /><br />So Reverend Neumark has focused her ministry on immigrants, the homeless, and queer and LGBTQ youth, offering them shelter and welcome in a city that is often harsh and violent.<br /><br />Host David Dault speaks to Reverend Neumark about what motivates her ministry, how she reads the Bible, and what gives her hope.<br /><br />Also on the show, our guest producer, Katie Lynn Murphy, files a report about her experiences of China during the recent protests.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3123</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1417 - A Zeal for History: Looking for Jesus with Reza Aslan, Part 2</title>
      <description>Part 2 - In this conversation, David Dault speaks with scholar and author Reza Aslan about his recent bestseller, Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth. Along the way, the discussion includes the current state of academic teaching, navigating land mines on Fox News, and a pretty awesome Beatles reference.

Also on the show, producer Maxwell Grant reviews the 'Magicians' series, a trilogy of novels by Lev Grossman
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      <pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2014 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/201e11e8-0339-11e9-b1d6-cb766d9552f8/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>The second part of our conversation with Aslan, the author of the NYT #1 bestseller, Zealot; Maxwell Grant reviews Lev Grossman's 'Magicians' trilogy </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Part 2 - In this conversation, David Dault speaks with scholar and author Reza Aslan about his recent bestseller, Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth. Along the way, the discussion includes the current state of academic teaching, navigating land mines on Fox News, and a pretty awesome Beatles reference.

Also on the show, producer Maxwell Grant reviews the 'Magicians' series, a trilogy of novels by Lev Grossman
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        <![CDATA[<p><em style="color: #22242f; font-family: 'Open Sans', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.1599998474121px;">Part 2 - In this conversation, David Dault speaks with scholar and author Reza Aslan about his recent bestseller, Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth. Along the way, the discussion includes the current state of academic teaching, navigating land mines on Fox News, and a pretty awesome Beatles reference.</em></p>
<p><em style="color: #22242f; font-family: 'Open Sans', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 20.1599998474121px;">Also on the show, producer Maxwell Grant reviews the 'Magicians' series, a trilogy of novels by Lev Grossman</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2539</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1416 - A Zeal for History: Looking for Jesus with Reza Aslan, Part 1</title>
      <description>In this conversation, David Dault speaks with scholar and author Reza Aslan about his recent bestseller, Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth. Along the way, the discussion includes the current state of academic teaching, navigating land mines on Fox News, and a pretty awesome Beatles reference.

Also on the show, senior producer Katy Scrogin reviews the recent documentary "Punk Prayer," about the supressed Russian feminist art collective, Pussy Riot.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2014 16:51:42 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2173e414-0339-11e9-b1d6-5f0ce0290c15/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>We begin our conversation with Aslan, the author of the NYT #1 bestseller, Zealot; Katy Scrogin reviews the new doc "Punk Prayer," about Russian art band Pussy Riot</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this conversation, David Dault speaks with scholar and author Reza Aslan about his recent bestseller, Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth. Along the way, the discussion includes the current state of academic teaching, navigating land mines on Fox News, and a pretty awesome Beatles reference.

Also on the show, senior producer Katy Scrogin reviews the recent documentary "Punk Prayer," about the supressed Russian feminist art collective, Pussy Riot.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this conversation, David Dault speaks with scholar and author Reza Aslan about his recent bestseller, Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth. Along the way, the discussion includes the current state of academic teaching, navigating land mines on Fox News, and a pretty awesome Beatles reference.</p>
<p>Also on the show, senior producer Katy Scrogin reviews the recent documentary "Punk Prayer," about the supressed Russian feminist art collective, Pussy Riot.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2684</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1415 - The Miracle on Capitol Hill: John Mauck, Part 2</title>
      <description>In the year 2000, against strong opposition, the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act passed Congress by unanimous vote. It's supporters proclaimed that "God worked a miracle" that day on Capitol Hill. Our guest, John Mauck, was instrumental in crafting the ideas and language that became the Act. He tells us the story of how it became law.Also on the show, Mary Morrison discusses pop music's body image problem
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      <pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2014 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/257aa6c4-0339-11e9-b1d6-775709e220dc/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>John Mauck discusses the Religious Land Use Act of 2000; Mary Morrison on pop music's body image problem</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In the year 2000, against strong opposition, the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act passed Congress by unanimous vote. It's supporters proclaimed that "God worked a miracle" that day on Capitol Hill. Our guest, John Mauck, was instrumental in crafting the ideas and language that became the Act. He tells us the story of how it became law.Also on the show, Mary Morrison discusses pop music's body image problem
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In the year 2000, against strong opposition, the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act passed Congress by unanimous vote. It's supporters proclaimed that "God worked a miracle" that day on Capitol Hill. Our guest, John Mauck, was instrumental in crafting the ideas and language that became the Act. He tells us the story of how it became law.<br /><br />Also on the show, Mary Morrison discusses pop music's body image problem</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2673</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1414 - The Miracle on Capitol Hill: John Mauck, Part 1</title>
      <description>In the year 2000, against strong opposition, the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act passed Congress by unanimous vote. It's supporters proclaimed that "God worked a miracle" that day on Capitol Hill. Our guest, John Mauck, was instrumental in crafting the ideas and language that became the Act. He tells us the story of how it became law.Also on the show, our producer-at-large, Natasha S. Alford, reviews the Netflix hit series, Orange is the New Black. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/27d7951c-0339-11e9-b1d6-f3e7c9793327/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>John Mauck tells the story of the passage of the Religious Land Use Act; Natasha Alford reviews Orange is the New Black</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In the year 2000, against strong opposition, the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act passed Congress by unanimous vote. It's supporters proclaimed that "God worked a miracle" that day on Capitol Hill. Our guest, John Mauck, was instrumental in crafting the ideas and language that became the Act. He tells us the story of how it became law.Also on the show, our producer-at-large, Natasha S. Alford, reviews the Netflix hit series, Orange is the New Black. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the year 2000, against strong opposition, the Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act passed Congress by unanimous vote. It's supporters proclaimed that "God worked a miracle" that day on Capitol Hill. Our guest, John Mauck, was instrumental in crafting the ideas and language that became the Act. He tells us the story of how it became law.<br /><br />Also on the show, our producer-at-large, Natasha S. Alford, reviews the Netflix hit series, <em>Orange is the New Black</em>. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2259</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1413 - Religious Objects: Brent Plate, Part 2</title>
      <description>The conclusion of our conversation with S. Brent Plate, author of A History or Religion in 5 1/2 Objects. Plate is the founding editor of the journal Material Religion.

Also on the show, journalist Natasha Alford reflects on Ferguson, and the death of Martin Luther King.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2014 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/29ac5cf6-0339-11e9-b1d6-1f44caec9656/image/TNS_Maria-Logo_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>The conclusion of our conversation with S. Brent Plate, author of A History or Religion in 5 1/2 Objects; Natasha Alford reflects on Ferguson, and the death of Martin Luther King.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The conclusion of our conversation with S. Brent Plate, author of A History or Religion in 5 1/2 Objects. Plate is the founding editor of the journal Material Religion.

Also on the show, journalist Natasha Alford reflects on Ferguson, and the death of Martin Luther King.
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>The conclusion of our conversation with S. Brent Plate, author of A History or Religion in 5 1/2 Objects. Plate is the founding editor of the journal Material Religion.</p>
<p>Also on the show, journalist Natasha Alford reflects on Ferguson, and the death of Martin Luther King.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2468</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1412 - Religious Objects: Brent Plate, Part 1</title>
      <description>The first of two conversations with S. Brent Plate, author of A History or Religion in 5 1/2 Objects. Plate is the founding editor of the journal Material Religion.Also on the show, we give an audio preview of the new Chicago Sunday Evening Club immigration documentary, "Divided Families"
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      <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2014 03:10:41 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2ed522a8-0339-11e9-b1d6-ebc3e72fd4d6/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>The first of two conversations with S. Brent Plate, author of A History or Religion in 5 1/2 Objects; Also, a preview of the new CSEC immigration documentary, "Divided Families"</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The first of two conversations with S. Brent Plate, author of A History or Religion in 5 1/2 Objects. Plate is the founding editor of the journal Material Religion.Also on the show, we give an audio preview of the new Chicago Sunday Evening Club immigration documentary, "Divided Families"
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>The first of two conversations with S. Brent Plate, author of A History or Religion in 5 1/2 Objects. Plate is the founding editor of the journal Material Religion.<br /><br />Also on the show, we give an audio preview of the new Chicago Sunday Evening Club immigration documentary, "Divided Families"</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2361</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1411 - Kat Banakis, Part 2</title>
      <description>Part 2 of our interview with Rev. Kat Banakis, author of Bubble Girl: An Irreverent Journey of Faith. Also on the show, Mary Morrison reviews the BBC sci-fi series Orphan Black
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      <pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2014 22:46:58 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/30fbda40-0339-11e9-b1d6-bbe08dc11404/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Part 1 of our interview with Rev. Kat Banakis, author of Bubble Girl; Mary Morrison reviews Orphan Black</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Part 2 of our interview with Rev. Kat Banakis, author of Bubble Girl: An Irreverent Journey of Faith. Also on the show, Mary Morrison reviews the BBC sci-fi series Orphan Black
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Part 2 of our interview with Rev. Kat Banakis, author of<em> <em>Bubble Girl: An Irreverent Journey of Faith</em>. </em>Also on the show, Mary Morrison reviews the BBC sci-fi series <em>Orphan Black</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>1883</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[bdc77364d9dc0094b6dd3d36b4b871b0]]></guid>
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      <title>#1410 - Kat Banakis, Part 1</title>
      <description>Part 1 of our interview with Rev. Kat Banakis, author of Bubble Girl: An Irreverent Journey of Faith. Also on the show, David Dault reviews True Detective
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      <pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2014 13:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/3259ff02-0339-11e9-b1d6-9bd307a7f5f0/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Part 1 of our interview with Rev. Kat Banakis, author of Bubble Girl; David Dault reviews True Detective</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Part 1 of our interview with Rev. Kat Banakis, author of Bubble Girl: An Irreverent Journey of Faith. Also on the show, David Dault reviews True Detective
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Part 1 of our interview with Rev. Kat Banakis, author of <em>Bubble Girl: An Irreverent Journey of Faith</em>. Also on the show, David Dault reviews True Detective</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2573</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[989042445b0b0651944ea120e7390774]]></guid>
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      <title>#1409 - Lillian Daniel, Part 2</title>
      <description>We continue our series of conversations recorded last year at the Wheaton College confeence on the Bible and Democracy in America, co-sponsored with the American Bible Society.

Rev. Lillian Daniel is the author of When Spiritual but Not Religious is Not Enough. In part 2 of our conversation, we discuss her book, as well as the influence congregationalism had on the formation of American democracy.

Also on the show, Katy Scrogin reviews The Still Point of the Turning World, by Emily Rapp.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:19:03 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/362bbf30-0339-11e9-b1d6-4f44ce2bb747/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Rev. Lillian Daniel is the author of When Spiritual but Not Religious is Not Enough; also, Katy Scrogin reviews Emily Rapp's The Still Point of the Turning World</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We continue our series of conversations recorded last year at the Wheaton College confeence on the Bible and Democracy in America, co-sponsored with the American Bible Society.

Rev. Lillian Daniel is the author of When Spiritual but Not Religious is Not Enough. In part 2 of our conversation, we discuss her book, as well as the influence congregationalism had on the formation of American democracy.

Also on the show, Katy Scrogin reviews The Still Point of the Turning World, by Emily Rapp.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We continue our series of conversations recorded last year at the Wheaton College confeence on the Bible and Democracy in America, co-sponsored with the <a href="http://www.americanbible.org">American Bible Society</a>.</p>
<p>Rev. Lillian Daniel is the author of <em>When Spiritual but Not Religious is Not Enough</em>. In part 2 of our conversation, we discuss her book, as well as the influence congregationalism had on the formation of American democracy.</p>
<p>Also on the show, Katy Scrogin reviews <em>The Still Point of the Turning World</em>, by Emily Rapp.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>1920</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[a6d139acb46a9b5514a985149e233920]]></guid>
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      <title>#1408 - Lillian Daniel, Part 1</title>
      <description>We continue our series of conversations recorded last year at the Wheaton College confeence on the Bible and Democracy in America, co-sponsored with the American Bible Society.

Rev. Lillian Daniel is the author of When Spiritual but Not Religious is Not Enough.In part 1 of our conversation, we discuss her book, as well as the influence congregationalism had on the formation of American democracy.

Also on the show, Katy Scrogin reviews S. Brent Plate's A History of Religon in 5 1/2 Objects.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2014 04:23:33 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/37cacba6-0339-11e9-b1d6-4757ee6651bf/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Rev. Lillian Daniel is the author of When Spiritual but Not Religious is Not Enough; also, Katy Scrogin reviews S. Brent Plate's A History of Religon in 5 1/2 Objects</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We continue our series of conversations recorded last year at the Wheaton College confeence on the Bible and Democracy in America, co-sponsored with the American Bible Society.

Rev. Lillian Daniel is the author of When Spiritual but Not Religious is Not Enough.In part 1 of our conversation, we discuss her book, as well as the influence congregationalism had on the formation of American democracy.

Also on the show, Katy Scrogin reviews S. Brent Plate's A History of Religon in 5 1/2 Objects.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We continue our series of conversations recorded last year at the Wheaton College confeence on the Bible and Democracy in America, co-sponsored with the <a href="http://www.americanbible.org">American Bible Society</a>.</p>
<p>Rev. Lillian Daniel is the author of <em>When Spiritual but Not Religious is Not Enough</em>.In part 1 of our conversation, we discuss her book, as well as the influence congregationalism had on the formation of American democracy.</p>
<p>Also on the show, Katy Scrogin reviews S. Brent Plate's <em>A History of Religon in 5 1/2 Objects</em>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>1878</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1407 - Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, Part 2</title>
      <description>Part two of a far-ranging interview with Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf. We discuss misconceptions of Islam, the spirituality at the core of all religion, and the importance of religious identity in the modern world. Also on the program, Katy Scrogin discusses Brad Kallenberg's book, By Design: Ethics, Theology, and the Practice of Engineering
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2014 22:20:29 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/40709bbe-0339-11e9-b1d6-bf5788c83574/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Part two of a far-ranging interview with Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf. We discuss misconceptions of Islam, the spirituality at the core of all religion, and the importance of religious identity in the modern world. Also on the program, Katy Scrogin...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Part two of a far-ranging interview with Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf. We discuss misconceptions of Islam, the spirituality at the core of all religion, and the importance of religious identity in the modern world. Also on the program, Katy Scrogin discusses Brad Kallenberg's book, By Design: Ethics, Theology, and the Practice of Engineering
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Part two of a far-ranging interview with Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf. We discuss misconceptions of Islam, the spirituality at the core of all religion, and the importance of religious identity in the modern world. Also on the program, Katy Scrogin discusses Brad Kallenberg's book, <em>By Design: Ethics, Theology, and the Practice of Engineering</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2211</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[08b54eead03ab7139a2266a2c7daef4d]]></guid>
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      <title>#1406 - Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, Part 1</title>
      <description>Part one of a far-ranging interview with Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf. We discuss misconceptions of Islam, the spirituality at the core of all religion, and the importance of religious identity in the modern world. Also on the program, Katy Scrogin discusses the book, The Man who Gave Up Money.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2014 03:09:53 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/45310de6-0339-11e9-b1d6-bf2816b2fe7e/image/TNS_Maria-Logo_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Part 1 of our interview with Imam Rauf about his international work; Katy Scrogin reviews The Man Who Gave Up Money</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Part one of a far-ranging interview with Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf. We discuss misconceptions of Islam, the spirituality at the core of all religion, and the importance of religious identity in the modern world. Also on the program, Katy Scrogin discusses the book, The Man who Gave Up Money.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Part one of a far-ranging interview with Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf. We discuss misconceptions of Islam, the spirituality at the core of all religion, and the importance of religious identity in the modern world. Also on the program, Katy Scrogin discusses the book, <em>The Man who Gave Up Money</em>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2304</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>#1405 - The God Gap, Part 2: Amy Black</title>
      <description>In this episode, Wheaton College professor Amy Black discusses the Constitution and religious freedoms in America from a historical perspective. Also on the program, we present "Jesus the Muslim," produced by the UK podcasters Things Unseen.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2014 13:00:49 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/4aeafe68-0339-11e9-b1d6-d3995071711e/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Wheaton College professor Amy Black discusses religious freedoms in America from a historical perspective, and we present "Jesus the Muslim" from Things Unseen Podcast</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Wheaton College professor Amy Black discusses the Constitution and religious freedoms in America from a historical perspective. Also on the program, we present "Jesus the Muslim," produced by the UK podcasters Things Unseen.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Wheaton College professor Amy Black discusses the Constitution and religious freedoms in America from a historical perspective. Also on the program, we present "Jesus the Muslim," produced by the UK podcasters Things Unseen.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2804</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[babf232e802695bd982b52580020ce29]]></guid>
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      <title>#1404 - The God Gap, Part 1: Amy Black</title>
      <description>In this episode, Wheaton College professor Amy Black discusses the Constitution and religious freedoms in America from a historical perspective. Also on the show, Katy Scrogin discusses The Reason I Jump: an Account of a Thirteen Year Old Boy with Autism, by Naoki Higashida
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      <pubDate>Sun, 23 Feb 2014 12:58:15 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/4f41d95a-0339-11e9-b1d6-93bfc2967d02/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Professor Amy Black discusses the Constitution and religious freedoms in America from a historical perspective. Also on the show, Katy Scrogin discusses The Reason I Jump</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Wheaton College professor Amy Black discusses the Constitution and religious freedoms in America from a historical perspective. Also on the show, Katy Scrogin discusses The Reason I Jump: an Account of a Thirteen Year Old Boy with Autism, by Naoki Higashida
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Wheaton College professor Amy Black discusses the Constitution and religious freedoms in America from a historical perspective. Also on the show, Katy Scrogin discusses The Reason I Jump: an Account of a Thirteen Year Old Boy with Autism, by Naoki Higashida</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2050</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
      <guid isPermaLink="false"><![CDATA[5769d6f1d91ed4aac57ee48099b599b3]]></guid>
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      <title>#1403 - Live from Wheaton: Catherine Brekus</title>
      <description>Last October, Things Not Seen Radio went on-location to Wheaton College to speak to participants in their conference on the Bible and Democracy in America, co-sponsored by the American Bible Society. Our guest this week is University of Chicago professor, historian Catherine Brekus. Also on the show, Katy Scrogin discusses Martha C. Nussbaum’s book, Political Emotions: Why Love Matters for Justice.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2014 23:09:48 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/56b20408-0339-11e9-b1d6-53e75ec62eb8/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>From Wheaton conference on the Bible and Democracy, University of Chicago professor, historian Catherine Brekus. Also on the show, Katy Scrogin discusses Martha C. Nussbaum’s book, Political Emotions</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Last October, Things Not Seen Radio went on-location to Wheaton College to speak to participants in their conference on the Bible and Democracy in America, co-sponsored by the American Bible Society. Our guest this week is University of Chicago professor, historian Catherine Brekus. Also on the show, Katy Scrogin discusses Martha C. Nussbaum’s book, Political Emotions: Why Love Matters for Justice.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p><span class="userContent">Last October, Things Not Seen Radio went on-location to Wheaton College to speak to participants in their conference on the Bible and Democracy in America, co-sponsored by the American Bible Society. Our guest this week is University of Chicago professor, historian Catherine Brekus. Also on the show, Katy Scrogin discusses </span><span class="autogrow-textarea">Martha C. Nussbaum’s book, Political Emotions: Why Love Matters for Justice.</span></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2155</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>Religion Moment: January 16, 2014- A New Caliph for Spain</title>
      <description>In Thursday's Religion Moment, Katy Scrogin discusses the Caliphate of Cordoba.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 13:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In Thursday's Religion Moment, Katy Scrogin discusses the Caliphate of Cordoba.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In Thursday's Religion Moment, Katy Scrogin discusses the Caliphate of Cordoba.
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        <![CDATA[<p>In Thursday's Religion Moment, Katy Scrogin discusses the Caliphate of Cordoba.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>#1402 - Emerging, Emergence, Emergent, Part 2: Phyllis Tickle</title>
      <description>In part 2 of our interview with Phyllis Tickle, we look at the relationship of science and faith, and why new seminarians might want to have a background in physics rather than theology. According to Tickle, our present epoch - referred to by some as "The Great Emergence" - has the potential to yield a new Christianity distinct from Protestantism, Catholicism, and Orthodoxy. Also on the program, Katy Scrogin reviews Soul Repair: Recovering from Moral Injury after War, the new book by Rita Nakashima Brock and Gabriella Lettini.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 05:46:57 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Part 2 of our interview with Phyllis Tickle, and review of Soul Repair by Brock and Lettini</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In part 2 of our interview with Phyllis Tickle, we look at the relationship of science and faith, and why new seminarians might want to have a background in physics rather than theology. According to Tickle, our present epoch - referred to by some as "The Great Emergence" - has the potential to yield a new Christianity distinct from Protestantism, Catholicism, and Orthodoxy. Also on the program, Katy Scrogin reviews Soul Repair: Recovering from Moral Injury after War, the new book by Rita Nakashima Brock and Gabriella Lettini.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In part 2 of our interview with Phyllis Tickle, we look at the relationship of science and faith, and why new seminarians might want to have a background in physics rather than theology. According to Tickle, our present epoch - referred to by some as "The Great Emergence" - has the potential to yield a new Christianity distinct from Protestantism, Catholicism, and Orthodoxy. <span class="autogrow-textarea">Also on the program, Katy Scrogin reviews Soul Repair: Recovering from Moral Injury after War, the new book by Rita Nakashima Brock and Gabriella Lettini.</span></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2531</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#1401 - Emerging, Emergence, Emergent, Part 1: Phyllis Tickle</title>
      <description>In part 1 of our interview with Phyllis Tickle, we explore the idea that our culture has been shaped by roughly 500-year cycles, which have helped define our major religious traditions for the past two millennia. According to Tickle, our present epoch - referred to by some as "The Great Emergence" - has the potential to yield a new Christianity distint from Protestantism, Catholicism, and Orthodoxy. Also on the program, Katy Scrogin reviews a new biography of philosopher Alain Badiou by Hollis Phelps.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 06 Jan 2014 01:06:54 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/59b446b6-0339-11e9-b1d6-d32e74d31ff3/image/TNS_Logo_USE-FOR-LIBSYN_20120602.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Part 1 of our interview with Phyllis Tickle on the Great Emergence. Also a review of the new biography of Alain Badiou by Hollis Phelps.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In part 1 of our interview with Phyllis Tickle, we explore the idea that our culture has been shaped by roughly 500-year cycles, which have helped define our major religious traditions for the past two millennia. According to Tickle, our present epoch - referred to by some as "The Great Emergence" - has the potential to yield a new Christianity distint from Protestantism, Catholicism, and Orthodoxy. Also on the program, Katy Scrogin reviews a new biography of philosopher Alain Badiou by Hollis Phelps.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In part 1 of our interview with Phyllis Tickle, we explore the idea that our culture has been shaped by roughly 500-year cycles, which have helped define our major religious traditions for the past two millennia. According to Tickle, our present epoch - referred to by some as "The Great Emergence" - has the potential to yield a new Christianity distint from Protestantism, Catholicism, and Orthodoxy. Also on the program, Katy Scrogin reviews a new biography of philosopher Alain Badiou by Hollis Phelps.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2596</itunes:duration>
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      <title>#1217: Head and Heart, Fully Engaged: Rachel Held Evans</title>
      <description>Rachel Held Evans grew up in Dayton, TN, the town made famous by the Scopes Monkey Trial. From the heart of the Bible Belt, where faith at first seemed certain and simple, she grew more comfortable with questions and doubt.  Now considering herself a more progressive (but still evangelical) woman, she tries to live her beliefs, as she puts it, with her "head and heart fully engaged."
Rachel Held Evans is the author of Evolving in Monkey Town (Zondervan 2010) and A Year of Biblical Womanhood (Thomas Nelson 2012).  A popular blogger, you can keep up with her latest posts at rachelheldevans.com.
Also on the show,producer Travis Ables talks about Revolution, both on television and in life.
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      <pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Head and Heart, Fully Engaged: Rachel Held Evans</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:author>Things Not Seen</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Rachel Held Evans is the author of Evolving in Monkey Town and A Year of Biblical Womanhood; Travis Ables talks about Revolution</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Rachel Held Evans grew up in Dayton, TN, the town made famous by the Scopes Monkey Trial. From the heart of the Bible Belt, where faith at first seemed certain and simple, she grew more comfortable with questions and doubt.  Now considering herself a more progressive (but still evangelical) woman, she tries to live her beliefs, as she puts it, with her "head and heart fully engaged."
Rachel Held Evans is the author of Evolving in Monkey Town (Zondervan 2010) and A Year of Biblical Womanhood (Thomas Nelson 2012).  A popular blogger, you can keep up with her latest posts at rachelheldevans.com.
Also on the show,producer Travis Ables talks about Revolution, both on television and in life.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="http://rachelheldevans.com/"><strong>Rachel Held Evans</strong></a> grew up in Dayton, TN, the town made famous by the Scopes Monkey Trial. From the heart of the Bible Belt, where faith at first seemed certain and simple, she grew more comfortable with questions and doubt.  Now considering herself a more progressive (but still evangelical) woman, she tries to live her beliefs, as she puts it, with her "head and heart fully engaged."</p><p>Rachel Held Evans is the author of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0310293995/ref=as_li_tf_il?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=211189&amp;creative=373489&amp;creativeASIN=0310293995&amp;link_code=as3&amp;tag=thingsnotseen-20"><em>Evolving in Monkey Town</em></a> (Zondervan 2010) and <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1595553673/ref=as_li_tf_il?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=211189&amp;creative=373489&amp;creativeASIN=1595553673&amp;link_code=as3&amp;tag=thingsnotseen-20"><em>A Year of Biblical Womanhood</em></a> (Thomas Nelson 2012).  A popular blogger, you can keep up with her latest posts at <a href="http://rachelheldevans.com/">rachelheldevans.com</a>.</p><p>Also on the show,producer <strong>Travis Ables</strong> talks about <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009CS152S/ref=as_li_tf_il?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=211189&amp;creative=373489&amp;creativeASIN=B009CS152S&amp;link_code=as3&amp;tag=thingsnotseen-20">Revolution</a>, both on television and in life.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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