Executive Uninterrupted https://podcast.outcomesrocket.com/executiveuninterrupted en Copyright © 2025 Outcomes Rocket. All rights reserved. 'Executive Uninterrupted Payer' podcast is owned by Outcomes Rocket Media and may not be reproduced or distributed without permission. Powered by Outcomes Rocket Media, Executive Uninterrupted shines a spotlight on the forces transforming the payer ecosystem, from large national health plans and the Blues to provider-owned plans and regional innovators. Join Brian Urban and Saul Marquez for sharp conversations with changemakers driving cost optimization, care delivery alignment, data accuracy, and value-based evolution. https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/e2ff14de-df80-11f0-a478-8b8bacf2b91b/image/6949a770c52d7b94dfceefe67e6a9826.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress Executive Uninterrupted https://podcast.outcomesrocket.com/executiveuninterrupted episodic Brian Urban & Saul Marquez Powered by Outcomes Rocket Media, Executive Uninterrupted shines a spotlight on the forces transforming the payer ecosystem, from large national health plans and the Blues to provider-owned plans and regional innovators. Join Brian Urban and Saul Marquez for sharp conversations with changemakers driving cost optimization, care delivery alignment, data accuracy, and value-based evolution. Powered by Outcomes Rocket Media, Executive Uninterrupted shines a spotlight on the forces transforming the payer ecosystem, from large national health plans and the Blues to provider-owned plans and regional innovators. Join Brian Urban and Saul Marquez for sharp conversations with changemakers driving cost optimization, care delivery alignment, data accuracy, and value-based evolution.

]]> Brian Urban & Saul Marquez executiveuninterrupted@gmail.com The Right Incentives, the Right Levers, and the Future of Care Delivery with Abe Sutton, Director of the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation and Deputy Administrator at CMS Healthcare reform works best when policy creates the right incentives and gives providers practical levers to deliver better care. In this episode, Abe Sutton, Director of the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation and Deputy Administrator at CMS, shares how a deeply personal family experience with care coordination shaped his interest in healthcare reform and public service. He reflects on the frustration of watching his father navigate complex, fragmented care for his grandmother and explains how that experience continues to influence his work today. Drawing on both government and operational experience, Abe unpacks why many past value-based care models fell short, what makes a model truly capable of changing care delivery, and how the Innovation Center is working to build more durable systems for the future. He also discusses the promise of digital health tools, the importance of affordability, and why the next decade of healthcare innovation will depend on getting both policy and incentives right. Tune in and learn how smarter incentives, durable model design, and a long-term view of innovation could reshape care delivery in America. Resources: Connect with Abe Sutton on LinkedIn here. Follow CMS Innovation Center on LinkedIn here and discover their website here. Mon, 06 Apr 2026 15:40:00 -0000 full Brian Urban & Saul Marquez Healthcare reform works best when policy creates the right incentives and gives providers practical levers to deliver better care. In this episode, Abe Sutton, Director of the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation and Deputy Administrator at CMS, shares how a deeply personal family experience with care coordination shaped his interest in healthcare reform and public service. He reflects on the frustration of watching his father navigate complex, fragmented care for his grandmother and explains how that experience continues to influence his work today. Drawing on both government and operational experience, Abe unpacks why many past value-based care models fell short, what makes a model truly capable of changing care delivery, and how the Innovation Center is working to build more durable systems for the future. He also discusses the promise of digital health tools, the importance of affordability, and why the next decade of healthcare innovation will depend on getting both policy and incentives right. Tune in and learn how smarter incentives, durable model design, and a long-term view of innovation could reshape care delivery in America. Resources: Connect with Abe Sutton on LinkedIn here. Follow CMS Innovation Center on LinkedIn here and discover their website here. Healthcare reform works best when policy creates the right incentives and gives providers practical levers to deliver better care.

In this episode, Abe Sutton, Director of the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation and Deputy Administrator at CMS, shares how a deeply personal family experience with care coordination shaped his interest in healthcare reform and public service. He reflects on the frustration of watching his father navigate complex, fragmented care for his grandmother and explains how that experience continues to influence his work today.

Drawing on both government and operational experience, Abe unpacks why many past value-based care models fell short, what makes a model truly capable of changing care delivery, and how the Innovation Center is working to build more durable systems for the future. He also discusses the promise of digital health tools, the importance of affordability, and why the next decade of healthcare innovation will depend on getting both policy and incentives right.

Tune in and learn how smarter incentives, durable model design, and a long-term view of innovation could reshape care delivery in America.


Resources:

  • Connect with Abe Sutton on LinkedIn here.
  • Follow CMS Innovation Center on LinkedIn here and discover their website here.
]]> 2082 From FHIR to First Warnings: How Wearables Turn Early Signals Into Better Care with Ricky Bloomfield, Chief Medical Officer at Oura Ring Better healthcare gets easier when we can spot meaningful changes early, using trustworthy data people can actually act on. In this episode, Ricky Bloomfield, Chief Medical Officer at Oura Ring, discusses his path from early curiosity about technology and medicine to hands-on work with web-based EHRs, clinical informatics, and the messy reality that innovation often looks like repeated failure before it works. He explains why interoperability matters, how standards like FHIR helped move the industry past one-off custom data pulls, and what happens when you combine clinical context with continuous wearable signals. The conversation also covers wearables as companions for care, early screening opportunities including insights linked to blood pressure and cardio-metabolic risk, and why nighttime measurements can be cleaner for long-term trend tracking. Dr. Bloomfield closes with a clear warning about incentives, engagement-driven products, and the trust gap in healthcare.  Tune in and learn how prevention, interoperability, and incentives shape what health tech should do next.  Resources Connect with Dr. Ricky Bloomfield on LinkedIn here. Follow Oura Ring on LinkedIn here and discover their website here. Thu, 05 Mar 2026 11:00:00 -0000 full Brian Urban & Saul Marquez Better healthcare gets easier when we can spot meaningful changes early, using trustworthy data people can actually act on. In this episode, Ricky Bloomfield, Chief Medical Officer at Oura Ring, discusses his path from early curiosity about technology and medicine to hands-on work with web-based EHRs, clinical informatics, and the messy reality that innovation often looks like repeated failure before it works. He explains why interoperability matters, how standards like FHIR helped move the industry past one-off custom data pulls, and what happens when you combine clinical context with continuous wearable signals. The conversation also covers wearables as companions for care, early screening opportunities including insights linked to blood pressure and cardio-metabolic risk, and why nighttime measurements can be cleaner for long-term trend tracking. Dr. Bloomfield closes with a clear warning about incentives, engagement-driven products, and the trust gap in healthcare.  Tune in and learn how prevention, interoperability, and incentives shape what health tech should do next.  Resources Connect with Dr. Ricky Bloomfield on LinkedIn here. Follow Oura Ring on LinkedIn here and discover their website here. Better healthcare gets easier when we can spot meaningful changes early, using trustworthy data people can actually act on.

In this episode, Ricky Bloomfield, Chief Medical Officer at Oura Ring, discusses his path from early curiosity about technology and medicine to hands-on work with web-based EHRs, clinical informatics, and the messy reality that innovation often looks like repeated failure before it works. He explains why interoperability matters, how standards like FHIR helped move the industry past one-off custom data pulls, and what happens when you combine clinical context with continuous wearable signals. The conversation also covers wearables as companions for care, early screening opportunities including insights linked to blood pressure and cardio-metabolic risk, and why nighttime measurements can be cleaner for long-term trend tracking. Dr. Bloomfield closes with a clear warning about incentives, engagement-driven products, and the trust gap in healthcare. 

Tune in and learn how prevention, interoperability, and incentives shape what health tech should do next. 

Resources

  • Connect with Dr. Ricky Bloomfield on LinkedIn here.
  • Follow Oura Ring on LinkedIn here and discover their website here.
]]> 2852 The First Mile: Reimagining Healthcare from the Home Out with Dr. Ami Bhatt, Chief Innovation Officer at the American College of Cardiology Healthcare was built around hospitals, but the future starts at home. In this episode, Dr. Ami Bhatt, Chief Innovation Officer at the American College of Cardiology, talks about reimagining healthcare through a “first mile” model that begins with patients in their homes and communities. She explains how remote care, wearables, and digital tools are shifting power toward patient agency and earlier intervention. Dr. Bhatt also explores why AI in healthcare must be a collaborative effort between clinicians and technology, focused on real patient outcomes rather than efficiency alone. The conversation examines emerging access and payment models that prioritize outcomes over billing codes, particularly in cardio-kidney-metabolic care. Tune in and hear how thoughtful innovation, collaborative intelligence, and patient-centered design can expand access and improve health at scale. Resources: Connect with Dr. Ami Bhatt on LinkedIn here. Follow the American College of Cardiology on LinkedIn here and discover their website here. Thu, 26 Feb 2026 11:00:00 -0000 full Brian Urban & Saul Marquez Healthcare was built around hospitals, but the future starts at home. In this episode, Dr. Ami Bhatt, Chief Innovation Officer at the American College of Cardiology, talks about reimagining healthcare through a “first mile” model that begins with patients in their homes and communities. She explains how remote care, wearables, and digital tools are shifting power toward patient agency and earlier intervention. Dr. Bhatt also explores why AI in healthcare must be a collaborative effort between clinicians and technology, focused on real patient outcomes rather than efficiency alone. The conversation examines emerging access and payment models that prioritize outcomes over billing codes, particularly in cardio-kidney-metabolic care. Tune in and hear how thoughtful innovation, collaborative intelligence, and patient-centered design can expand access and improve health at scale. Resources: Connect with Dr. Ami Bhatt on LinkedIn here. Follow the American College of Cardiology on LinkedIn here and discover their website here. Healthcare was built around hospitals, but the future starts at home.

In this episode, Dr. Ami Bhatt, Chief Innovation Officer at the American College of Cardiology, talks about reimagining healthcare through a “first mile” model that begins with patients in their homes and communities. She explains how remote care, wearables, and digital tools are shifting power toward patient agency and earlier intervention. Dr. Bhatt also explores why AI in healthcare must be a collaborative effort between clinicians and technology, focused on real patient outcomes rather than efficiency alone. The conversation examines emerging access and payment models that prioritize outcomes over billing codes, particularly in cardio-kidney-metabolic care.

Tune in and hear how thoughtful innovation, collaborative intelligence, and patient-centered design can expand access and improve health at scale.

Resources:

  • Connect with Dr. Ami Bhatt on LinkedIn here.
  • Follow the American College of Cardiology on LinkedIn here and discover their website here.
]]> 1533 The Death of "Sick Care": Dr. Stephen Klasko on Reimagining Healthcare for Human Outcomes From late-night DJ to healthcare system disruptor. In this episode, Dr. Stephen Klasko, President and CEO of Thomas Jefferson University and Jefferson Health, discusses reimagining healthcare by breaking rules, centering care on people, and shifting the system from “sick care” to true health. He shares how his unconventional path into medicine shaped his focus on empathy, women’s and pediatric health, and long-term outcomes over short-term revenue. Dr. Klasko explains why redesigning care around the home, community, and lived experience, rather than hospitals and billing codes, is essential to transforming equity and access. He also reflects on leadership, innovation, and why selecting and training more human-centered physicians is critical for the future of medicine. Tune in and explore what it really takes to build a healthcare system that helps people thrive, not just survive. Resources: Connect with Dr. Stephen Klasko on LinkedIn here and discover his website. Find out more about Thomas Jefferson University on LinkedIn, and visit their website here. Thu, 19 Feb 2026 17:40:00 -0000 full Brian Urban & Saul Marquez From late-night DJ to healthcare system disruptor. In this episode, Dr. Stephen Klasko, President and CEO of Thomas Jefferson University and Jefferson Health, discusses reimagining healthcare by breaking rules, centering care on people, and shifting the system from “sick care” to true health. He shares how his unconventional path into medicine shaped his focus on empathy, women’s and pediatric health, and long-term outcomes over short-term revenue. Dr. Klasko explains why redesigning care around the home, community, and lived experience, rather than hospitals and billing codes, is essential to transforming equity and access. He also reflects on leadership, innovation, and why selecting and training more human-centered physicians is critical for the future of medicine. Tune in and explore what it really takes to build a healthcare system that helps people thrive, not just survive. Resources: Connect with Dr. Stephen Klasko on LinkedIn here and discover his website. Find out more about Thomas Jefferson University on LinkedIn, and visit their website here. From late-night DJ to healthcare system disruptor.

In this episode, Dr. Stephen Klasko, President and CEO of Thomas Jefferson University and Jefferson Health, discusses reimagining healthcare by breaking rules, centering care on people, and shifting the system from “sick care” to true health. He shares how his unconventional path into medicine shaped his focus on empathy, women’s and pediatric health, and long-term outcomes over short-term revenue. Dr. Klasko explains why redesigning care around the home, community, and lived experience, rather than hospitals and billing codes, is essential to transforming equity and access. He also reflects on leadership, innovation, and why selecting and training more human-centered physicians is critical for the future of medicine.

Tune in and explore what it really takes to build a healthcare system that helps people thrive, not just survive.

Resources:

  • Connect with Dr. Stephen Klasko on LinkedIn here and discover his website.
  • Find out more about Thomas Jefferson University on LinkedIn, and visit their website here.
]]> 2512 From Finance to ARPA-H: Dr. Rafid Fadul on Equity, Access, and Simple Tech From finance to frontline care, Dr. Rafid Fadul’s journey is anything but conventional. In this episode, Dr. Rafid Fadul, founder of Zivian Health and incoming Chief Medical Officer of ARPA-H, discusses how a late-college realization about equity and impact led him to leave finance and pursue medicine. He shares how, during his residency and MBA program, he was introduced to digital health through a capstone project focused on improving access to care in post-war Iraq using simple mobile phone–based solutions. Dr. Fadul reflects on how this early experience demonstrated the power of technology to overcome systemic barriers and shaped his career across academic medicine, digital health innovation, and healthcare leadership. Tune in to hear how purpose, access, and innovation intersect in Dr. Fadul’s vision for the future of healthcare. Resources Connect with Dr. Rafid Fadul on LinkedIn here. Find out more about ARPA-H on LinkedIn, and visit their website here.  Follow Zivian Health on LinkedIn and discover their website here.  Thu, 12 Feb 2026 11:00:00 -0000 full Brian Urban & Saul Marquez From finance to frontline care, Dr. Rafid Fadul’s journey is anything but conventional. In this episode, Dr. Rafid Fadul, founder of Zivian Health and incoming Chief Medical Officer of ARPA-H, discusses how a late-college realization about equity and impact led him to leave finance and pursue medicine. He shares how, during his residency and MBA program, he was introduced to digital health through a capstone project focused on improving access to care in post-war Iraq using simple mobile phone–based solutions. Dr. Fadul reflects on how this early experience demonstrated the power of technology to overcome systemic barriers and shaped his career across academic medicine, digital health innovation, and healthcare leadership. Tune in to hear how purpose, access, and innovation intersect in Dr. Fadul’s vision for the future of healthcare. Resources Connect with Dr. Rafid Fadul on LinkedIn here. Find out more about ARPA-H on LinkedIn, and visit their website here.  Follow Zivian Health on LinkedIn and discover their website here.  From finance to frontline care, Dr. Rafid Fadul’s journey is anything but conventional.

In this episode, Dr. Rafid Fadul, founder of Zivian Health and incoming Chief Medical Officer of ARPA-H, discusses how a late-college realization about equity and impact led him to leave finance and pursue medicine. He shares how, during his residency and MBA program, he was introduced to digital health through a capstone project focused on improving access to care in post-war Iraq using simple mobile phone–based solutions. Dr. Fadul reflects on how this early experience demonstrated the power of technology to overcome systemic barriers and shaped his career across academic medicine, digital health innovation, and healthcare leadership.

Tune in to hear how purpose, access, and innovation intersect in Dr. Fadul’s vision for the future of healthcare.

Resources

  • Connect with Dr. Rafid Fadul on LinkedIn here.
  • Find out more about ARPA-H on LinkedIn, and visit their website here. 
  • Follow Zivian Health on LinkedIn and discover their website here. 
]]> 1890 Uninterrupted at the Inflection Point with Brian Urban and Saul Marquez The biggest opportunity in healthcare today lies in honest, uninterrupted conversations between the people shaping payer and provider decisions. In this intro episode of the Executive Uninterrupted Podcast, Brian Urban, a healthcare leader, advisor, and adjunct professor, explains why the payer–provider ecosystem has reached a true inflection point and why progress requires understanding the humans behind executive titles. Together with Saul Marquez, he explores long-standing friction points across reimbursement, contracting, value-based care, patient experience, and policy, while arguing that the system is not broken but functioning imperfectly. Brian reflects on how his experience across health plans, retail health, and enterprise organizations revealed the need for a space where executives can speak candidly about profit-and-loss accountability, community-level impact, and real-world constraints. The episode closes with their vision for an uninterrupted podcast format that challenges conventional thinking, highlights emerging executive roles shaping population health, and previews conversations with influential leaders across medicine, policy, and innovation. Tune in and learn how raw executive insight can reshape healthcare strategy, collaboration, and the future of the ecosystem! Resources: Connect with Brian Urban on LinkedIn here. Connect with Saul Marquez on LinkedIn here. Stay tuned for more episode on the Executive Uninterrupted podcast here. Find out more about Outcomes Rocket on LinkedIn. Visit the Outcomes Rocket website here. Tue, 03 Feb 2026 10:00:00 -0000 full Brian Urban & Saul Marquez The biggest opportunity in healthcare today lies in honest, uninterrupted conversations between the people shaping payer and provider decisions. In this intro episode of the Executive Uninterrupted Podcast, Brian Urban, a healthcare leader, advisor, and adjunct professor, explains why the payer–provider ecosystem has reached a true inflection point and why progress requires understanding the humans behind executive titles. Together with Saul Marquez, he explores long-standing friction points across reimbursement, contracting, value-based care, patient experience, and policy, while arguing that the system is not broken but functioning imperfectly. Brian reflects on how his experience across health plans, retail health, and enterprise organizations revealed the need for a space where executives can speak candidly about profit-and-loss accountability, community-level impact, and real-world constraints. The episode closes with their vision for an uninterrupted podcast format that challenges conventional thinking, highlights emerging executive roles shaping population health, and previews conversations with influential leaders across medicine, policy, and innovation. Tune in and learn how raw executive insight can reshape healthcare strategy, collaboration, and the future of the ecosystem! Resources: Connect with Brian Urban on LinkedIn here. Connect with Saul Marquez on LinkedIn here. Stay tuned for more episode on the Executive Uninterrupted podcast here. Find out more about Outcomes Rocket on LinkedIn. Visit the Outcomes Rocket website here. The biggest opportunity in healthcare today lies in honest, uninterrupted conversations between the people shaping payer and provider decisions.

In this intro episode of the Executive Uninterrupted Podcast, Brian Urban, a healthcare leader, advisor, and adjunct professor, explains why the payer–provider ecosystem has reached a true inflection point and why progress requires understanding the humans behind executive titles. Together with Saul Marquez, he explores long-standing friction points across reimbursement, contracting, value-based care, patient experience, and policy, while arguing that the system is not broken but functioning imperfectly. Brian reflects on how his experience across health plans, retail health, and enterprise organizations revealed the need for a space where executives can speak candidly about profit-and-loss accountability, community-level impact, and real-world constraints. The episode closes with their vision for an uninterrupted podcast format that challenges conventional thinking, highlights emerging executive roles shaping population health, and previews conversations with influential leaders across medicine, policy, and innovation.

Tune in and learn how raw executive insight can reshape healthcare strategy, collaboration, and the future of the ecosystem!

Resources:

  • Connect with Brian Urban on LinkedIn here.
  • Connect with Saul Marquez on LinkedIn here.
  • Stay tuned for more episode on the Executive Uninterrupted podcast here.
  • Find out more about Outcomes Rocket on LinkedIn.
  • Visit the Outcomes Rocket website here.
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