The Surf'n Turf Show https://valormedianetwork.com/ en 2025 Being a human in the modern world is like living in a house on fire in the middle of a minefield, but that doesn’t mean we should all just sit inside and doom scroll our lives away. The Surf and Turf Show features two retired prior enlisted special operations officers turned writers—Green Beret Lieutenant Colonel Dan Pace and Navy SEAL Lieutenant Commander Adam Karaoguz. Join them as they explore how to make sense of and navigate the Turbulent Twenties. Parenting, masculinity, marriage, fitness, finance and more—nothing’s off limits—and they address it all with candor and humor. https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/eed38516-05c3-11f0-a7ea-7b36056d85d5/image/51376c4895f524823d9ffd211e495626.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress The Surf'n Turf Show https://valormedianetwork.com/ no episodic VALOR Media Network Being a human in the modern world is like living in a house on fire in the middle of a minefield, but that doesn’t mean we should all just sit inside and doom scroll our lives away. The Surf and Turf Show features two retired prior enlisted special operations officers turned writers—Green Beret Lieutenant Colonel Dan Pace and Navy SEAL Lieutenant Commander Adam Karaoguz. Join them as they explore how to make sense of and navigate the Turbulent Twenties. Parenting, masculinity, marriage, fitness, finance and more—nothing’s off limits—and they address it all with candor and humor. Being a human in the modern world is like living in a house on fire in the middle of a minefield, but that doesn’t mean we should all just sit inside and doom scroll our lives away.

The Surf and Turf Show features two retired prior enlisted special operations officers turned writers—Green Beret Lieutenant Colonel Dan Pace and Navy SEAL Lieutenant Commander Adam Karaoguz.

Join them as they explore how to make sense of and navigate the Turbulent Twenties. Parenting, masculinity, marriage, fitness, finance and more—nothing’s off limits—and they address it all with candor and humor.

]]> Kenneth Harbaugh info@valormedianetwork.com Bombing Iran: Are we living in a post-Franz Ferdinand world? The dynamic duo unpack the current situation in the Middle East. They explore the implications of what's going on and what might happen next. Dan Pace: Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/ ) Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/Daniel-Pace/e/B0CTTN49VD/ref=aufs_dp_fta_an_dsk) https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/ Adam Karaoguz: Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/): Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/): Follow us here: https://linktr.ee/valormedianetwork Fri, 27 Jun 2025 13:00:00 -0000 full 1 15 VALOR Media Network The dynamic duo unpack the current situation in the Middle East. They explore the implications of what's going on and what might happen next. Dan Pace: Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/ ) Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/Daniel-Pace/e/B0CTTN49VD/ref=aufs_dp_fta_an_dsk) https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/ Adam Karaoguz: Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/): Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/): Follow us here: https://linktr.ee/valormedianetwork

The dynamic duo unpack the current situation in the Middle East. They explore the implications of what's going on and what might happen next.


Dan Pace:

Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/ )

Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/Daniel-Pace/e/B0CTTN49VD/ref=aufs_dp_fta_an_dsk)

https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/



Adam Karaoguz:

Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/):

Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/):

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]]> 4095 Megan Moroney, Door Dash, Iran, and Protests Peter Turchin books referenced: https://www.amazon.com/Books-Peter-Turchin/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3APeter%2BTurchin Joe Abercrombie Age of Madness Trilogy: https://firstlaw.fandom.com/wiki/The_Age_of_Madness_Trilogy Dan Pace: Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/ ) Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/Daniel-Pace/e/B0CTTN49VD/ref=aufs_dp_fta_an_dsk) https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/ Adam Karaoguz: Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/): Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/): Sat, 21 Jun 2025 17:30:00 -0000 full VALOR Media Network Peter Turchin books referenced: https://www.amazon.com/Books-Peter-Turchin/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3APeter%2BTurchin Joe Abercrombie Age of Madness Trilogy: https://firstlaw.fandom.com/wiki/The_Age_of_Madness_Trilogy Dan Pace: Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/ ) Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/Daniel-Pace/e/B0CTTN49VD/ref=aufs_dp_fta_an_dsk) https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/ Adam Karaoguz: Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/): Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/): Peter Turchin books referenced: https://www.amazon.com/Books-Peter-Turchin/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3APeter%2BTurchin


Joe Abercrombie Age of Madness Trilogy: https://firstlaw.fandom.com/wiki/The_Age_of_Madness_Trilogy


Dan Pace:

Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/ )

Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/Daniel-Pace/e/B0CTTN49VD/ref=aufs_dp_fta_an_dsk)

https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/



Adam Karaoguz:

Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/):

Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/):


]]> 4195 Memory, Trust, Frank Frazetta and War Stories Dan and Adam talk the fallibility of memory, trust within military units, the joy of Frank Frazetta's fantasy artwork, and a few war stories. Dan Pace: Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/ ) Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/Daniel-Pace/e/B0CTTN49VD/ref=aufs_dp_fta_an_dsk) https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/ Adam Karaoguz: Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/): Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/): Fri, 13 Jun 2025 13:00:00 -0000 full VALOR Media Network Dan and Adam talk the fallibility of memory, trust within military units, the joy of Frank Frazetta's fantasy artwork, and a few war stories. Dan Pace: Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/ ) Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/Daniel-Pace/e/B0CTTN49VD/ref=aufs_dp_fta_an_dsk) https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/ Adam Karaoguz: Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/): Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/): Dan and Adam talk the fallibility of memory, trust within military units, the joy of Frank Frazetta's fantasy artwork, and a few war stories.


Dan Pace:

Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/ )

Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/Daniel-Pace/e/B0CTTN49VD/ref=aufs_dp_fta_an_dsk)

https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/



Adam Karaoguz:

Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/):

Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/):


]]> 3552 TRIBE Review: War, Brotherhood & The Collapse of Belonging Dan and Adam dive into Tribe by Sebastian Junger, a book that challenges everything we think we know about community, belonging, and why modern life leaves so many feeling lost. From combat veterans to cubicle workers, Tribe reveals a hidden truth: we’re wired for connection, struggle, and meaning — not isolation and ease. Dan Pace: Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/ ) Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/Daniel-Pace/e/B0CTTN49VD/ref=aufs_dp_fta_an_dsk) https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/ Adam Karaoguz: Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/): Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/): Fri, 06 Jun 2025 13:00:00 -0000 full VALOR Media Network Dan and Adam dive into Tribe by Sebastian Junger, a book that challenges everything we think we know about community, belonging, and why modern life leaves so many feeling lost. From combat veterans to cubicle workers, Tribe reveals a hidden truth: we’re wired for connection, struggle, and meaning — not isolation and ease. Dan Pace: Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/ ) Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/Daniel-Pace/e/B0CTTN49VD/ref=aufs_dp_fta_an_dsk) https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/ Adam Karaoguz: Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/): Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/): Dan and Adam dive into Tribe by Sebastian Junger, a book that challenges everything we think we know about community, belonging, and why modern life leaves so many feeling lost. From combat veterans to cubicle workers, Tribe reveals a hidden truth: we’re wired for connection, struggle, and meaning — not isolation and ease.


Dan Pace:

Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/ )

Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/Daniel-Pace/e/B0CTTN49VD/ref=aufs_dp_fta_an_dsk)

https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/



Adam Karaoguz:

Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/):

Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/):


]]> 4001 Dan and Adam discuss social risks in the final installment of their Risk series | Surf ‘N Turf Dan and Adam talk social risk, with an intro discussing real estate, generational differences, homeschooling vs. public schools, and risks in the digital realm. Follow us here: https://linktr.ee/valormedianetwork Fri, 30 May 2025 13:00:00 -0000 full 1 11 VALOR Media Network Dan and Adam talk social risk, with an intro discussing real estate, generational differences, homeschooling vs. public schools, and risks in the digital realm. Follow us here: https://linktr.ee/valormedianetwork Dan and Adam talk social risk, with an intro discussing real estate, generational differences, homeschooling vs. public schools, and risks in the digital realm.

Follow us here: https://linktr.ee/valormedianetwork

]]> 3997 Resilient, Educated, and Decisive - but not Jerks: Thoughts on Raising Mentally Healthy Kids How do you raise a kid that doesn’t end up being either a mental train wreck or a pretentious ass? And what are the risks you’ll encounter while you try to do it? Those are the questions Adam and Dan work through today. In the process, they cover a lot of ground, ranging from reading lists, to limiting device time, to brain chemistry. Tune in to see what they’ve got to offer. Fri, 23 May 2025 13:11:00 -0000 full 1 7 VALOR Media Network How do you raise a kid that doesn’t end up being either a mental train wreck or a pretentious ass? And what are the risks you’ll encounter while you try to do it? Those are the questions Adam and Dan work through today. In the process, they cover a lot of ground, ranging from reading lists, to limiting device time, to brain chemistry. Tune in to see what they’ve got to offer. How do you raise a kid that doesn’t end up being either a mental train wreck or a pretentious ass? And what are the risks you’ll encounter while you try to do it? Those are the questions Adam and Dan work through today. In the process, they cover a lot of ground, ranging from reading lists, to limiting device time, to brain chemistry. Tune in to see what they’ve got to offer.

]]> 3662 Raising Financially Sound Kids: How to Avoid Being a Wage Slave by Channeling Your Inner Kiyosaki Nobody wants to be broke and in debt, but how do you do it? Today, Adam and Dan focus on what they teach their kids to set them up for financial success in life. By leaning on the insights of Dave Ramsey and Robert Kiyosaki, the dynamic duo aim to impart the sort of habits that will enable their kids to stay out of debt, live within their means, and maximize the value of their time. Surfn'Turf on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61576155650698 Rich Dad Poor Dad: https://a.co/d/ahyQySU Dave Ramsey's Show: https://youtu.be/ZfwTPskw7N8 Grasshopper on the Road: https://a.co/d/hSacJOy Follow us here: https://linktr.ee/valormedianetwork Fri, 23 May 2025 13:10:00 -0000 full 1 9 VALOR Media Network Nobody wants to be broke and in debt, but how do you do it? Today, Adam and Dan focus on what they teach their kids to set them up for financial success in life. By leaning on the insights of Dave Ramsey and Robert Kiyosaki, the dynamic duo aim to impart the sort of habits that will enable their kids to stay out of debt, live within their means, and maximize the value of their time. Surfn'Turf on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61576155650698 Rich Dad Poor Dad: https://a.co/d/ahyQySU Dave Ramsey's Show: https://youtu.be/ZfwTPskw7N8 Grasshopper on the Road: https://a.co/d/hSacJOy Follow us here: https://linktr.ee/valormedianetwork

Nobody wants to be broke and in debt, but how do you do it? Today, Adam and Dan focus on what they teach their kids to set them up for financial success in life. By leaning on the insights of Dave Ramsey and Robert Kiyosaki, the dynamic duo aim to impart the sort of habits that will enable their kids to stay out of debt, live within their means, and maximize the value of their time.


Surfn'Turf on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=61576155650698

Rich Dad Poor Dad: https://a.co/d/ahyQySU

Dave Ramsey's Show: https://youtu.be/ZfwTPskw7N8

Grasshopper on the Road: https://a.co/d/hSacJOy

Follow us here: https://linktr.ee/valormedianetwork

]]> 3931 Assessing Physical Risk Dan and Adam discuss components of physical risk, starting with snorkeling in the Caribbean. They talk about how awesome helmets are, particularly inside (or outside) of tanks. They finish by discussing the importance of sports, and how sports for children has gotten out of control in the last few decades. Fri, 16 May 2025 13:43:00 -0000 full VALOR Media Network Dan and Adam discuss components of physical risk, starting with snorkeling in the Caribbean. They talk about how awesome helmets are, particularly inside (or outside) of tanks. They finish by discussing the importance of sports, and how sports for children has gotten out of control in the last few decades. Dan and Adam discuss components of physical risk, starting with snorkeling in the Caribbean. They talk about how awesome helmets are, particularly inside (or outside) of tanks. They finish by discussing the importance of sports, and how sports for children has gotten out of control in the last few decades.

]]> 3503 Dan and Adam talk Cobra Kai, Values, the Sacred, and how to align your compass in life | Surf ‘N ‘Turf All Joy and No Fun Book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H8QSIFS/?bestFormat=true&k=all%20joy%20and%20no%20fun&ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_scx-ent-pd-bk-d_de_k0_1_14&crid=1D2RTWNOIYC5N&sprefix=all%20joy%20and%20no Daniel was the Bully: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Gz_iTuRMM&pp=ygUUZGFuaWVsIHdhcyB0aGUgYnVsbHk%3D Mere Christianity: https://www.amazon.com/Mere-Christianity-C-S-Lewis/dp/0060652926/ref=sr_1_3?crid=33C8CWE8ADR15&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.MoQ5Fb99AF-qvvgKyyX9lo2747w6LLGF95mbq3nO4T4.Zxv7LDaqjIDr8jiinyXwbbQQTHPg6LXn42xFS_XaveE&dib_tag=se&keywords=mere+christia&qid=1747061000&sprefix=mere+christia%2Caps%2C142&sr=8-3 David Foster Wallace: This is Water- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCbGM4mqEVw Follow us here: https://linktr.ee/valormedianetwork Fri, 16 May 2025 13:13:00 -0000 full VALOR Media Network All Joy and No Fun Book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H8QSIFS/?bestFormat=true&k=all%20joy%20and%20no%20fun&ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_scx-ent-pd-bk-d_de_k0_1_14&crid=1D2RTWNOIYC5N&sprefix=all%20joy%20and%20no Daniel was the Bully: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Gz_iTuRMM&pp=ygUUZGFuaWVsIHdhcyB0aGUgYnVsbHk%3D Mere Christianity: https://www.amazon.com/Mere-Christianity-C-S-Lewis/dp/0060652926/ref=sr_1_3?crid=33C8CWE8ADR15&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.MoQ5Fb99AF-qvvgKyyX9lo2747w6LLGF95mbq3nO4T4.Zxv7LDaqjIDr8jiinyXwbbQQTHPg6LXn42xFS_XaveE&dib_tag=se&keywords=mere+christia&qid=1747061000&sprefix=mere+christia%2Caps%2C142&sr=8-3 David Foster Wallace: This is Water- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCbGM4mqEVw Follow us here: https://linktr.ee/valormedianetwork

All Joy and No Fun Book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00H8QSIFS/?bestFormat=true&k=all%20joy%20and%20no%20fun&ref_=nb_sb_ss_w_scx-ent-pd-bk-d_de_k0_1_14&crid=1D2RTWNOIYC5N&sprefix=all%20joy%20and%20no


Daniel was the Bully: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Gz_iTuRMM&pp=ygUUZGFuaWVsIHdhcyB0aGUgYnVsbHk%3D


Mere Christianity: https://www.amazon.com/Mere-Christianity-C-S-Lewis/dp/0060652926/ref=sr_1_3?crid=33C8CWE8ADR15&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.MoQ5Fb99AF-qvvgKyyX9lo2747w6LLGF95mbq3nO4T4.Zxv7LDaqjIDr8jiinyXwbbQQTHPg6LXn42xFS_XaveE&dib_tag=se&keywords=mere+christia&qid=1747061000&sprefix=mere+christia%2Caps%2C142&sr=8-3


David Foster Wallace: This is Water- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCbGM4mqEVw


Follow us here: https://linktr.ee/valormedianetwork

]]> 3997 Getting on Paper with Risk Mitigation In their efforts to get their hands around applying military risk mitigation to parenting and normal life, Adam and Dan’s conversation goes all over the place. From zombie movies, to parachuting, to neurochemistry, they try to get a few rounds on paper to start zeroing in on the best way to identify the obstacles to success in our lives, and intelligently allocate resources to defeating those obstacles.  https://www.beyondmthfr.com/treating-comt-and-mao-the-hormonal-cause-of-stress-and-anxiety/ Dan Pace: Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/) Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Daniel-Pace/author/B0CTTN49VD?isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&linkCode=sl2&tag=greyzoneethic-20&linkId=d3a1cec7d6e324163af135f9b3057b26&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl&ccs_id=f232f81d-90ee-4541-8101-f7b7f807711f)  Podcast appearances (https://danielvpace.com/podcasts.html): Adam Karaoguz: Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/):  Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/): Fri, 25 Apr 2025 13:00:00 -0000 full 1 6 VALOR Media Network In their efforts to get their hands around applying military risk mitigation to parenting and normal life, Adam and Dan’s conversation goes all over the place. From zombie movies, to parachuting, to neurochemistry, they try to get a few rounds on paper to start zeroing in on the best way to identify the obstacles to success in our lives, and intelligently allocate resources to defeating those obstacles.  https://www.beyondmthfr.com/treating-comt-and-mao-the-hormonal-cause-of-stress-and-anxiety/ Dan Pace: Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/) Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Daniel-Pace/author/B0CTTN49VD?isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&linkCode=sl2&tag=greyzoneethic-20&linkId=d3a1cec7d6e324163af135f9b3057b26&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl&ccs_id=f232f81d-90ee-4541-8101-f7b7f807711f)  Podcast appearances (https://danielvpace.com/podcasts.html): Adam Karaoguz: Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/):  Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/): In their efforts to get their hands around applying military risk mitigation to parenting and normal life, Adam and Dan’s conversation goes all over the place. From zombie movies, to parachuting, to neurochemistry, they try to get a few rounds on paper to start zeroing in on the best way to identify the obstacles to success in our lives, and intelligently allocate resources to defeating those obstacles.


 https://www.beyondmthfr.com/treating-comt-and-mao-the-hormonal-cause-of-stress-and-anxiety/


Dan Pace:

Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/)


Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Daniel-Pace/author/B0CTTN49VD?isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&linkCode=sl2&tag=greyzoneethic-20&linkId=d3a1cec7d6e324163af135f9b3057b26&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl&ccs_id=f232f81d-90ee-4541-8101-f7b7f807711f) 


Podcast appearances (https://danielvpace.com/podcasts.html):


Adam Karaoguz:

Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/): 

Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/):

]]> 4532 Why Adversity Is Critical To Being A Successful Human | Surf’n Turf There’s an old Army cliché that says, ‘you don’t have to train to suck.’ Is that true, though? Today, Adam and Dan use vignettes ranging from Navy SEAL training to slogging through a Jane Austen novel to illustrate the importance of overcoming adversity. Tune in to hear them discuss the benefits of challenging ourselves, strategies for incorporating adversity into our lives and the lives of our kids, and figuring out when enough becomes too much. Dan Pace: Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/) Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Daniel-Pace/author/B0CTTN49VD?isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&linkCode=sl2&tag=greyzoneethic-20&linkId=d3a1cec7d6e324163af135f9b3057b26&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl&ccs_id=f232f81d-90ee-4541-8101-f7b7f807711f)  Podcast appearances (https://danielvpace.com/podcasts.html): Adam Karaoguz: Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/):  Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/):  Fri, 18 Apr 2025 13:05:00 -0000 full 1 5 VALOR Media Network There’s an old Army cliché that says, ‘you don’t have to train to suck.’ Is that true, though? Today, Adam and Dan use vignettes ranging from Navy SEAL training to slogging through a Jane Austen novel to illustrate the importance of overcoming adversity. Tune in to hear them discuss the benefits of challenging ourselves, strategies for incorporating adversity into our lives and the lives of our kids, and figuring out when enough becomes too much. Dan Pace: Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/) Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Daniel-Pace/author/B0CTTN49VD?isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&linkCode=sl2&tag=greyzoneethic-20&linkId=d3a1cec7d6e324163af135f9b3057b26&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl&ccs_id=f232f81d-90ee-4541-8101-f7b7f807711f)  Podcast appearances (https://danielvpace.com/podcasts.html): Adam Karaoguz: Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/):  Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/):  There’s an old Army cliché that says, ‘you don’t have to train to suck.’ Is that true, though? Today, Adam and Dan use vignettes ranging from Navy SEAL training to slogging through a Jane Austen novel to illustrate the importance of overcoming adversity. Tune in to hear them discuss the benefits of challenging ourselves, strategies for incorporating adversity into our lives and the lives of our kids, and figuring out when enough becomes too much.


Dan Pace:

Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/)


Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Daniel-Pace/author/B0CTTN49VD?isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&linkCode=sl2&tag=greyzoneethic-20&linkId=d3a1cec7d6e324163af135f9b3057b26&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl&ccs_id=f232f81d-90ee-4541-8101-f7b7f807711f) 


Podcast appearances (https://danielvpace.com/podcasts.html):


Adam Karaoguz:

Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/): 

Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/): 

]]> 3775 How Do We Make the Least Bad Decisions? What do you do when you’re stuck between a rock and hard place? Today, Adam and Dan continue their inquiry into the decision making process by exploring the ethical side of the problem space. They use a series of combat and non-combat vignettes to unpack lose / lose decision making with the goal of understanding how to train ourselves to identify the least bad options available. They conclude the episode by applying the decision making model to a hot-button topic, euthanasia, and draw some interesting conclusions about the subject. Tune in to find out more! Dan Pace: Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/) Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Daniel-Pace/author/B0CTTN49VD?isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&linkCode=sl2&tag=greyzoneethic-20&linkId=d3a1cec7d6e324163af135f9b3057b26&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl&ccs_id=f232f81d-90ee-4541-8101-f7b7f807711f)  Podcast appearances (https://danielvpace.com/podcasts.html): Adam Karaoguz: Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/):  Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/):  Fri, 11 Apr 2025 14:09:00 -0000 full 1 4 VALOR Media Network What do you do when you’re stuck between a rock and hard place? Today, Adam and Dan continue their inquiry into the decision making process by exploring the ethical side of the problem space. They use a series of combat and non-combat vignettes to unpack lose / lose decision making with the goal of understanding how to train ourselves to identify the least bad options available. They conclude the episode by applying the decision making model to a hot-button topic, euthanasia, and draw some interesting conclusions about the subject. Tune in to find out more! Dan Pace: Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/) Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Daniel-Pace/author/B0CTTN49VD?isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&linkCode=sl2&tag=greyzoneethic-20&linkId=d3a1cec7d6e324163af135f9b3057b26&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl&ccs_id=f232f81d-90ee-4541-8101-f7b7f807711f)  Podcast appearances (https://danielvpace.com/podcasts.html): Adam Karaoguz: Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/):  Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/):  What do you do when you’re stuck between a rock and hard place? Today, Adam and Dan continue their inquiry into the decision making process by exploring the ethical side of the problem space. They use a series of combat and non-combat vignettes to unpack lose / lose decision making with the goal of understanding how to train ourselves to identify the least bad options available. They conclude the episode by applying the decision making model to a hot-button topic, euthanasia, and draw some interesting conclusions about the subject. Tune in to find out more!


Dan Pace:

Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/)


Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Daniel-Pace/author/B0CTTN49VD?isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&linkCode=sl2&tag=greyzoneethic-20&linkId=d3a1cec7d6e324163af135f9b3057b26&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl&ccs_id=f232f81d-90ee-4541-8101-f7b7f807711f) 


Podcast appearances (https://danielvpace.com/podcasts.html):


Adam Karaoguz:

Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/): 

Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/): 

]]> 4118 Deer Wars and Decision Making: Using Your Head, Heart, and Gut to Achieve Self-Mastery Today, the duo discusses decision making. After breaking down a vignette from the week where everyone involved was unhappy with the outcome—the Deer Wars—Adam and Dan discuss the way we use our heads, hearts, and guts to make choices. During the episode, they talk about the limits of rationality, the risks of bias, and the need to strive for objectivity and self-awareness, and by the end, they reach an agreed-upon approach that allows for balanced, effective decision making.  Dan Pace: Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/) Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Daniel-Pace/author/B0CTTN49VD?isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&linkCode=sl2&tag=greyzoneethic-20&linkId=d3a1cec7d6e324163af135f9b3057b26&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl&ccs_id=f232f81d-90ee-4541-8101-f7b7f807711f)  Podcast appearances (https://danielvpace.com/podcasts.html): Adam Karaoguz: Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/):  Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/):  Fri, 04 Apr 2025 12:57:00 -0000 full VALOR Media Network Today, the duo discusses decision making. After breaking down a vignette from the week where everyone involved was unhappy with the outcome—the Deer Wars—Adam and Dan discuss the way we use our heads, hearts, and guts to make choices. During the episode, they talk about the limits of rationality, the risks of bias, and the need to strive for objectivity and self-awareness, and by the end, they reach an agreed-upon approach that allows for balanced, effective decision making.  Dan Pace: Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/) Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Daniel-Pace/author/B0CTTN49VD?isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&linkCode=sl2&tag=greyzoneethic-20&linkId=d3a1cec7d6e324163af135f9b3057b26&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl&ccs_id=f232f81d-90ee-4541-8101-f7b7f807711f)  Podcast appearances (https://danielvpace.com/podcasts.html): Adam Karaoguz: Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/):  Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/):  Today, the duo discusses decision making. After breaking down a vignette from the week where everyone involved was unhappy with the outcome—the Deer Wars—Adam and Dan discuss the way we use our heads, hearts, and guts to make choices. During the episode, they talk about the limits of rationality, the risks of bias, and the need to strive for objectivity and self-awareness, and by the end, they reach an agreed-upon approach that allows for balanced, effective decision making. 


Dan Pace:

Profile and publication history (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-pace-7924465b/)


Amazon author page (https://www.amazon.com/stores/Daniel-Pace/author/B0CTTN49VD?isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true&linkCode=sl2&tag=greyzoneethic-20&linkId=d3a1cec7d6e324163af135f9b3057b26&language=en_US&ref_=as_li_ss_tl&ccs_id=f232f81d-90ee-4541-8101-f7b7f807711f) 


Podcast appearances (https://danielvpace.com/podcasts.html):


Adam Karaoguz:

Substack (https://adamkaraoguz.substack.com/): 

Website (https://www.adamkaraoguz.com/): 

]]> 3689 Accountability, Parenting, and Technology https://youtu.be/1YRp9IAUDjY?si=e_bOcUKWeB-Kmg1V Dan and Adam discuss accountability, parenthood, and the influence of technology and social media on modern life. Follow us here: https://linktr.ee/valormedianetwork Mon, 31 Mar 2025 13:23:00 -0000 full 1 2 VALOR Media Network Dan and Adam discuss accountability, parenthood, and the influence of technology and social media on modern life. Follow us here: https://linktr.ee/valormedianetwork Dan and Adam discuss accountability, parenthood, and the influence of technology and social media on modern life.


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]]> 3505 Accountability and Self-Reliance Welcome to The Surf ’n Turf show! A show that ​​tackles life’s chaos with candor, covering everything from parenting and masculinity to fitness and finance.  Today, Adam and Dan dig into two facets of masculinity - accountability and self-reliance. They dig into their personal and parenting experiences to explore the positive and negative aspects and try to bracket in on the golden mean for each of them.  Follow us here: https://linktr.ee/valormedianetwork Fri, 21 Mar 2025 13:15:00 -0000 full 1 1 VALOR Media Network Welcome to The Surf ’n Turf show! A show that ​​tackles life’s chaos with candor, covering everything from parenting and masculinity to fitness and finance.  Today, Adam and Dan dig into two facets of masculinity - accountability and self-reliance. They dig into their personal and parenting experiences to explore the positive and negative aspects and try to bracket in on the golden mean for each of them.  Follow us here: https://linktr.ee/valormedianetwork Welcome to The Surf ’n Turf show! A show that ​​tackles life’s chaos with candor, covering everything from parenting and masculinity to fitness and finance. 


Today, Adam and Dan dig into two facets of masculinity - accountability and self-reliance. They dig into their personal and parenting experiences to explore the positive and negative aspects and try to bracket in on the golden mean for each of them. 


Follow us here: https://linktr.ee/valormedianetwork

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