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155. Mike Pompeo On Russia, Trump, and China

Sun, 28 Sep 2025 23:00:00 -0000

Why does the former Secretary of State think the US is going too soft on Russia and China? What was it like working closely with President Trump? Why did Putin invade Europe under Obama and Biden, but not Trump?

Alastair and Rory are joined by Mike Pompeo, former US Secretary of State and CIA-Director, to discuss all this and more.

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154. Maro Itoje: Inequality, Identity, and Hope

Sun, 21 Sep 2025 23:00:00 -0000

How do we tackle global poverty and fight for change? What qualities are needed in a leadership role? Is the Labour government delivering on the issue of inequality in the UK?

Rory and Alastair are joined by captain of the England Rugby team, Maro Itoje, to discuss all this and more.

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153. The Man Who Invented The World Wide Web (Tim Berners-Lee)

Sun, 14 Sep 2025 23:00:00 -0000

Tim Berners-Lee could be one of the richest men on the planet, why did he forfeit such large profits to make the World Wide Web a free and open space? How do we reclaim the internet from social media companies taking away our sovereignty? Have tech giants like Mark Zuckerberg, Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk thanked Tim for his invention?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Sir Tim Berners-Lee to discuss all this and more.

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152. "A War on Children": A Generation in Gaza at Risk (James Elder)

Sun, 07 Sep 2025 23:00:00 -0000

Why is the humanitarian situation in Gaza the worst that James Elder has ever seen? What does the process of rebuilding Gaza look like? How do the people working on the ground not lose hope?

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151. Prime Minister of Norway: On Trump, Tech, and Brexit Lessons (Jonas Gahr Støre)

Sun, 31 Aug 2025 23:00:00 -0000

Why is the nation with the world’s richest sovereign wealth fund not ‘universally happy’? What can the UK learn from Norway’s relationship with the EU? Is Jonas Gahr Støre really standing between Trump and a Nobel Peace Prize?

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150. Nicola Sturgeon: What Really Happened In The Scottish Referendum (Part 2)

Sun, 24 Aug 2025 23:00:00 -0000

How did the media and Westminster impact the Scottish Referendum? Why are spin rooms "utterly pointless" in Nicola's view? Is misogyny in politics as bad as it used to be, or getting worse due to social media?

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149. Nicola Sturgeon: On Margaret Thatcher, Alex Salmond, and the Push for Independence (Part 1)

Sun, 17 Aug 2025 23:00:00 -0000

What is the difference between class distinctions in Scotland and the rest of the UK? How did Nicola Sturgeon's childhood in Scotland inform her politics? What was Margaret Thatcher's influence on Nicola's career?

Rory and Alastair are joined by former Leader of the SNP and First Minister of Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon, to answer all these questions and more.

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148. The President of Guyana: The Fastest Growing Economy in the World (Irfaan Ali)

Thu, 14 Aug 2025 23:00:00 -0000

How does Guyana balance its unprecedented economic growth, largely due to oil discoveries, with environmental sustainability? How does Guyana perceive and address the historical scar left by slavery? What has happened to West Indies cricket, and how does the future look?

Alastair is joined by President of Guyana, Ifraan Ali, to answer all these questions and more.

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147. I Thought It Was a Prank - Then I Was Chancellor: Jeremy Hunt (Part 2)

Sun, 10 Aug 2025 23:00:00 -0000

What was it like to be handed the reins to the economy following the Liz Truss mini-budget collapse? How did Jeremy Hunt feel fighting an election that he knew the Conservatives would lose? How would Thatcher have dealt with Trump?

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146. The Rise and Fall of The Conservative Party: Jeremy Hunt (Part 1)

Sun, 03 Aug 2025 23:00:00 -0000

How did Jeremy Hunt lose the Conservative leadership race to Boris Johnson? What does the longest serving Health Minister think will fix the NHS? What does Jeremy Hunt really think of Kemi Badenoch’s leadership?

Alastair and Rory are joined by former Chancellor Jeremy Hunt to answer all this and more.

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145. Gary Stevenson: Masculinity, Money, and the Myth of Meritocracy (Part 2)

Sun, 27 Jul 2025 23:00:00 -0000

How did Gary become a multimillionaire by the age of 25? How big a difference can a wealth tax make on regular people's lives? Have centrist politics failed on the economy?

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144. Gary Stevenson: From Teenage Drug Dealer to Millionaire Trader (Part 1)

Sun, 20 Jul 2025 23:00:00 -0000

How did Gary Stevenson go from being expelled for drug dealing, to one of the most successful traders in London? How does class and privilege play into the world of finance in the UK? What could men do differently to deal with their mental health at work?

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143. Iraq, Trump, and America’s Slide to Authoritarianism (Congressman Seth Moulton)

Sun, 13 Jul 2025 23:00:00 -0000

How did Congressman Moulton keep fighting the Iraq war when he thought it was a mistake? Is there anyone who can stop Trump, or is he an absolute monarch? Have substandard politicians used military service as a get-out-of-jail-free card?

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142. The Truth About Net Zero's Credibility (Emma Pinchbeck)

Sun, 06 Jul 2025 23:00:00 -0000

Why are the British paying more for energy than anywhere else in Europe? How does society navigate the anxiety of having children during the climate crisis? What does the UK government need to do in order to speed up our transition to green energy?

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141. The President of Cyprus: Iran, Israel, and the Cyprus Issue (Nikos Christodoulides)

Sun, 29 Jun 2025 23:05:00 -0000

What role does Cyprus play in the Middle East conflicts? How can Europe and the United Kingdom strengthen their relations during this tumultuous time? How can governments fight corruption?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Nikos Christodoulides, the President of Cyprus, to discuss all this and more.

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140. The Next President of France? Gabriel Attal on Macron, Le Pen, and Israel-Iran

Sun, 22 Jun 2025 23:00:00 -0000

Why has Macron become so unpopular? Where is the discussion of international law when it comes to the conflict between Israel and Iran? Why can’t the French and the English coordinate to stop the small boats crisis?

Alastair and Rory are joined by former French Prime Minister Gabriel Attal to discuss all this and more.

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139. Speaker Kevin McCarthy: In Defence of Donald J. Trump

Sun, 15 Jun 2025 23:00:00 -0000

What is the logic behind Trump’s “chaotic” political strategy? Are Europe and America heading for a divorce? What did it feel like to get ousted as the Speaker of the House on a global stage?

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138. The Anxious Generation: How Silicon Valley Has Rewired Our Brains (Jonathan Haidt)

Sun, 08 Jun 2025 23:05:00 -0000

What are the biggest lies we're being told about social media? How does unregulated social media help Trump and authoritarian regimes? How do you beat an addiction to your phone?

Jonathan Haidt joins Rory and Alastair to discuss all this and more.

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137. Jacinda Ardern: Why I Stepped Down as Prime Minister of New Zealand

Sun, 01 Jun 2025 23:00:00 -0000

How should New Zealand navigate their complex web of alliances as the relationship between China and the US deteriorates? Jacinda Ardern was considered a beacon of hope when she came to office in 2017, how did she navigate this pressure? To what extent is politics about personal gratification and the pursuit of power?

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136. Ed Miliband: Farage, Starmer and The Fight for Net Zero (Part 2)

Thu, 29 May 2025 23:00:00 -0000

How did Ed Miliband recover from Labour’s 2015 defeat and decide to remain in politics? Can the Energy Secretary win the argument for Net Zero against the likes of Tony Blair and Nigel Farage? Is it possible to be in politics and be a good parent?

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135. Ed Miliband: Blair, Brown, and Battling his Brother (Part 1)

Sun, 25 May 2025 23:00:00 -0000

How did Ed Miliband’s childhood being raised by survivors of the Holocaust shape his politics? How did his role mediating between Blair and Brown earn Ed the moniker ‘Emissary from planet F***’? What was it like to take on his own brother in the Labour leadership race?

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134. Palestine's Most Popular Politician: Marwan Barghouti's Son on Occupation, Resistance, and Hope

Sun, 18 May 2025 23:00:00 -0000

Who, instead of Hamas, could represent a peaceful Palestinian leadership? Why does Marwan Barghouti remain the most popular leader in Palestine despite being in jail for over 20 years, a period during which more than 50% of the population was not yet born? How do the Occupied territories remain hopeful during the ongoing war in the region?

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133. Trump vs. Europe: Flattery, Pushback, and Powerplays (Congressman Jim Himes)

Sun, 11 May 2025 23:00:00 -0000

Will Europe ever trust the US again? What is the future of the Democratic party? What does the signal chat leak tell us about the psychology of the Trump administration?

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132. Former Head of MI6: Russia, China, and Trump (Sir Alex Younger)

Sun, 04 May 2025 23:00:00 -0000

What is the real job of a spy? What is the role of the UK’s intelligence community in Trump’s new world order? How does the relationship between politicians and intelligence services work?

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131. The Global Health Crisis: USAID cuts, Trump, and the limits of AI (Atul Gawande)

Sun, 27 Apr 2025 23:00:00 -0000

How many people are going to die as a result of American support for USAID programs being removed? What are the limits of thinking of AI as the silver bullet for healthcare? How do we bring the doubling of the human lifespan to everyone alive without bankrupting our societies?

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130. The Prime Minister of Australia: Trump, China, and Social Media (Anthony Albanese)

Sun, 20 Apr 2025 23:10:00 -0000

What is the impact of Trump and China on the Australian election on 3rd May? How has the Australian government taken on social media companies to protect young users? How did Prime Minister Anthony Albanese track down and reunite with his long lost father?

Alastair and Rory are joined by Anthony Albanese, the Australian Prime Minister, to answer all this and more.

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129. Trump’s America: Fear, Polarisation, and The Future (Ezra Klein)

Sun, 13 Apr 2025 23:00:00 -0000

How does a society defined by liberty and revolution become so easy to censor? Is polarisation something that has been done to us as an active political strategy or did we do this to ourselves? How did the Silicon Valley CEOs’ friction with their workers drive them towards camp MAGA?

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128. Whips, Chaos, and secrets from Westminster (Simon Hart)

Mon, 07 Apr 2025 06:14:00 -0000

Why do the wrong people become MPs? How can we transform Westminster into a modern day workplace? How did Simon Hart’s time at The Countryside Alliance inform his politics?

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127. Donald Trump vs American Freedom: Who Wins? (Moises Naim)

Sun, 30 Mar 2025 23:36:00 -0000

Is this the end of democracy in the USA? Following the election of Trump, could democracy in America die? How did Moises Naim come up with his three p’s; Populism, Polarisation, and Post-truth?

Alastair and Rory are joined by Moises Naim, journalist and former Venezuelan minister, to answer all these questions and more.

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126. Israel, Gaza, and the United Nations (Francesca Albanese)

Mon, 24 Mar 2025 08:03:00 -0000

What role does the UN play in the Occupied Palestinian territories? What is the responsibility of Western media when it comes to covering issues surrounding Israel and Palestine? How did Francesca Albanese’s Southern Italian heritage inform her passion for fighting injustice?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Francesca Albanese, the Special Rapporteur on the human rights situation in the Palestinian territories occupied since 1967, to discuss all this and more.

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125. Peter Kyle: AI, grief, and the power of Elon Musk

Mon, 17 Mar 2025 14:57:00 -0000

5 consecutive UK Prime Ministers have declared that the UK will become an AI Superpower, why is Keir Starmer any different? Why does no one have ‘big ideas’ anymore? And, how did Peter Kyle’s experience of grief shape the politician he is today?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Peter Kyle, the Secretary of State for Science, Innovation and Technology, to discuss all this and more.

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124. The Man Who Got To Trump (Michael Wolff)

Mon, 10 Mar 2025 00:00:00 -0000

How did Michael Wolff manage to penetrate and expose Trump’s inner circle multiple times? Will the Murdoch empire survive the death of its Patriarch? Who’s really in charge in the White House?

Rory and Alastair are joined by journalist and author, Michael Wolff, to discuss all this and more.

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123. Canada Decides: Who will be the next Prime Minister? (Chrystia Freeland and Mark Carney)

Mon, 03 Mar 2025 00:00:00 -0000

Why do both former Bank of England governor, Mark Carney, and former Canadian deputy Prime Minister, Chrystia Freeland, think they’re best placed to lead Canada? How will either take on Conservative leader Pierre Poilievre if they win the Liberal party leadership elections on March 9th? What do they think about the ‘existential threat’ to Canada that is President Donald Trump?

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122. How Europe can survive Trump (Frans Timmermans)

Mon, 24 Feb 2025 00:00:00 -0000

Are Trump and Putin carving up the world? How should the EU adapt to this new world? What imagination is needed on the political left?

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121. Yulia Navalnaya: The Woman Who Could Bring Down Putin

Mon, 17 Feb 2025 00:00:00 -0000

Why did Yulia’s husband, Alexei Navalny, return to Russia, knowing he’d be imprisoned? Is there any credible opposition to Putin left? What does the West get wrong about Putin’s Russia?

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120. The New President of Syria: Trump, Palestine, and having a $10 million bounty on your head (Ahmed al-Sharaa)

Mon, 10 Feb 2025 11:20:00 -0000

How did Ahmed al-Sharaa go from an imprisoned al-Qaeda fighter to the leader of Syria? What is the psychological impact of living a secret life for over twenty years? What is the future of Syria?

Ahmed al-Sharaa joins Rory and Alastair to discuss all this and more.

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119. Tommy Vietor: How Democrats can fight Trump

Mon, 03 Feb 2025 00:10:00 -0000

How did Barack Obama become President? What was Hillary Clinton's huge mistake in 2016? How corrupt really is American politics today?

Pod Save America host and former Barack Obama speechwriter, Tommy Veitor, joins Rory and Alastair to answer all these questions and more.

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118. Ex-Head of Mossad: Hamas, Ceasefire, and Netanyahu (Uzi Arad)

Mon, 27 Jan 2025 14:17:00 -0000

What’s the relationship between intelligence agencies and the politicians they serve? How does Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu react in a crisis? How confident should we be that the ceasefire will last?

Alastair and Rory are joined by former Head of Mossad Intelligence and National Security Advisor to Benjamin Netanyahu, Uzi Arad, to discuss all this and more.

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117. Is the UN fit for purpose? (Tom Fletcher)

Mon, 20 Jan 2025 07:06:00 -0000

As the US retreats from the international stage, who is going to fill the gap? What will the ‘peace processes of the future’ look like? Who has more power, the tech giants or political leaders?

Rory and Alastair are joined by the Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs and Emergency Relief Coordinator at the UN, Tom Fletcher, to answer all these questions and more.

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116. Is AI the answer to human suffering? (James Manyika)

Mon, 13 Jan 2025 00:00:00 -0000

How can AI help solve global problems such as poverty, hunger, and disease? Is there a hidden dark side to this new technology? What is in store for the future of artificial intelligence?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Senior Vice President of Google, James Manyika, to answer all these questions and more.

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115. Ben Wallace: Britain's mistake in Ukraine, Trump vs. NATO, and visiting Iran with Jeremy Corbyn

Mon, 06 Jan 2025 00:10:00 -0000

Why do some soldiers make bad politicians? What's the West doing wrong in terms of its policy towards the Ukraine War? How can Keir Starmer turn around the public perception of his Labour government?

On today's episode of Leading Rory and Alastair are joined by Ben Wallace, Secretary of State for Defence from 2019 to 2023. Tune in to hear the former Tory minister answers all these questions and more.

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114. The future of Wales (Eluned Morgan)

Mon, 30 Dec 2024 00:10:00 -0000

How did Morgan’s upbringing as the daughter of a priest set her off on a path to become Welsh First Minister? What does a former member of the European Parliament think happened with Brexit? How has the devolved parliament tackled the NHS?

Rory and Alastair are joined by the first minister of Wales, Eluned Morgan, to discuss all this and more.

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113. How likely is World War 3? (Ian Bremmer)

Mon, 23 Dec 2024 00:10:00 -0000

What does Musk’s de-facto role as ‘co president’ say about the impact of Big Tech on the disintegration of the international order? How can we approach solving some of the world's biggest conflicts? Is there room for hope in an increasingly tense and fragmented world?

Rory and Alastair are joined by American political scientist, Ian Bremmer, to answer all these questions and more.

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112. Bill Clinton: Putin, Palestine, and Trump

Mon, 16 Dec 2024 00:10:00 -0000

Does Bill Clinton feel that the current Israel-Hamas war could have been avoided if former Palestinian President Yasser Arafat had accepted the peace deal in 2001? Does he regret allowing China to join the World Trade Organisation? Was Hillary Clinton unfairly attacked during her presidential campaign? And what is Putin going to do next?

Rory and Alastair are joined by 42nd US President, Bill Clinton, to discuss all this and more.

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111. Angela Merkel: Putin, Trump, and Europe's future

Mon, 09 Dec 2024 00:10:00 -0000

What lessons on leadership does Angela Merkel have after 16 years served as Chancellor of Germany? Does she have any regrets from her tenure? What was it like being in East Germany when the Berlin wall fell? And what should Europe do to ensure the future security of Ukraine?

Rory and Alastair are joined by ex-Chancellor of Germany, Angela Merkel, to discuss all this and more.

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110. Chris Patten: Conservatism, China, and the future of democracy

Mon, 02 Dec 2024 00:10:00 -0000

As the last Governor of Hong Kong, what are Chris Patten's reflections on the city’s trajectory since the handover in 1997? How can the West improve it's relationship to China? What role does religion play in fostering a more compassionate society today?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Lord Chris Patten to discuss all this and much more.

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109. Is it time to legalise assisted dying? (Kim Leadbeater)

Mon, 25 Nov 2024 00:10:00 -0000

Should assisted dying be legalised? How did the murder of her sister, Jo Cox, impact British politics? Why is the job of an MP so difficult?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Labour MP Kim Leadbeater to discuss all this, and more.

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108. Mhairi Black: Independence, inequality, and the future of the SNP

Mon, 18 Nov 2024 00:10:00 -0000

What was it like entering Parliament as the youngest MP? How has the SNP’s approach to campaigning for Scottish independence changed since the 2014 referendum? What does the future hold for the SNP and Scotland's relationship with the rest of the UK?

Rory and Alastair are joined by former MP Mhairi Black to discuss all this and more.

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107. General David Petraeus: Iraq, Afghanistan, and the US military's role in the world

Mon, 11 Nov 2024 00:10:00 -0000

Was the surge in Iraq a success for the United States? How critical are alliances to maintaining global stability? How can leaders maintain resilience and integrity in the face of public scrutiny?

Rory and Alastair are joined by General David Petraeus, ex-CIA Director and United States Army general during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, to answer all these questions and more.

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106. Michael Lewis: Donald Trump, Sam Bankman-Fried, and the future of the USA

Mon, 04 Nov 2024 00:10:00 -0000

What do Silicon Valley, Wall Street, and Washington DC all have in common? Why has Donald Trump made the impact he has in the US? What was Sam Bankman-Fried really like to work alongside?

Rory and Alastair are joined by the writer of Moneyball and The Big Short to answer all these questions and more.

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105. War and Peace in Northern Ireland and the Middle East (George Mitchell)

Fri, 01 Nov 2024 00:10:00 -0000

What is it like to negotiate with terrorists? Will peace ever be possible in the Middle East? How did the Good Friday Agreement come to pass?

On today’s episode of Leading, Rory and Alastair are joined by American politician, diplomat and lawyer George Mitchell, to discuss all this and more.

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104. Timothy Snyder: How will the US election result impact Ukraine?

Mon, 28 Oct 2024 00:10:00 -0000

What can European history teach us about the potential outcome of conflicts around the world? What effect will the results of the US election have on Ukraine? Will America always be a democracy?

Rory and Alastair are joined by esteemed historian and author Timothy Snyder to discuss all this and much more.

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103. Archbishop of Canterbury: Faith, mental health, and the future of the Church

Sun, 20 Oct 2024 23:10:00 -0000

What does the Archbishop of Canterbury suggest for bridging divides in conflict zones? What are the Church doing about declining spirituality? How was it leading the country through the death of the Queen and the coronation of the King?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Justin Welby, the Archbishop of Canterbury, to answer all these questions and more.

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102. Alan Johnson: From Blair to Starmer - What can Labour learn? (Part 2)

Sun, 13 Oct 2024 23:10:00 -0000

How does militant socialism compare to Corbynism? How did Labour’s ‘remain’ campaign go so wrong? And what should Labour be doing about immigration?

On today’s episode of Leading, Rory and Alastair are joined by long-serving Labour minister, Alan Johnson, to discuss all this and more

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101. Alan Johnson: The Prime Minister We Never Had? (Part 1)

Sun, 06 Oct 2024 23:10:00 -0000

How much have the “bleak” post-war years shaped modern Britain? How did growing up parentless and in poverty inspire Alan Johnson’s life choices? And, is Alastair right, could he have been prime ministerial material?

On today’s episode of Leading, Rory and Alastair are joined by long-serving Labour minister, Alan Johnson, to discuss all this and more.

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100. Anne Applebaum: Corruption, Populism, and Ending the War in Ukraine

Sun, 29 Sep 2024 23:10:00 -0000

What constitutes an autocratic state? How did populism come to dominate global politics from 2012-2014? When and how will the war in Ukraine end?

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99. Team of Rivals: Blair, Brown and the secrets of New Labour (Douglas Alexander)

Sun, 22 Sep 2024 23:10:00 -0000

What was the rivalry between Tony Blair and Gordon Brown really about? How easy is it to find work as an ex-politician? What can the Labour Party do going forward to strengthen the UK's relationship with the EU?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Labour minister, Douglas Alexander, to answer all these questions and more.

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98. Nate Silver: Can we predict who will win the 2024 US election?

Sun, 15 Sep 2024 23:10:00 -0000

Who is going to win the 2024 election? What is the relationship between playing professional poker and betting on politics? Why has Elon Musk endorsed Donald Trump?

Alastair and Rory are joined by legendary forecaster, Nate Silver, to answer all these questions and more.

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97. How to fight fake news and strengthen democracy (Audrey Tang)

Sun, 08 Sep 2024 23:10:00 -0000

Is technology destroying democracy, or can it be used to strengthen it? How did Taiwan improve public trust in politicians by 60%? Could the NHS be transformed by digital consultations for the better?

The world's first digital minister, Audrey Tang, joins Rory and Alastair to discuss all this and more.

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96. Frank Luntz: The World's Most Prolific Pollster

Sun, 01 Sep 2024 23:10:00 -0000

Can a pollster be apolitical? What issues are the American people most interested in Kamala Harris and Donald Trump tackling? How can politicians communicate their message most effectively?

Rory and Alastair are joined by pollster and advisor Frank Luntz to answer all these questions and more.

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95. DNC Special: An alternative view from a Trump supporter (David Urban)

Mon, 26 Aug 2024 23:10:00 -0000

What did a Trump supporter make of the Democratic National Convention? Does Donald Trump have any friends? What message did the DNC send to those who don't support Kamala Harris?

Alastair is joined by CNN correspondent and Trump supporter, David Urban, to answer all these questions and more.

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94. DNC Special: The Young Buck (Josh Elliot)

Sun, 25 Aug 2024 23:10:00 -0000

What does a State Senator do? What is the difference in the energy at the DNC now the nominee is Kamala Harris, not Joe Biden? How do politicians become delegates?

Rory and Alastair are joined by member of Connecticut's Congress, Josh Elliot, to answer all these questions and more.

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93. DNC Special: The Veteran Congresswoman (Rosa DeLauro)

Sat, 24 Aug 2024 23:10:00 -0000

What is the role of a member of Congress? How much do campaigns in the United States really cost? Is campaigning as a member of Congress wildly different to campaigning as an MP?

Rory and Alastair are joined by veteran Congresswoman Rosa DeLauro at the DNC in Chicago to answer all these questions and more.

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92. DNC Special: The Attack Dog (Bob Mulholland)

Fri, 23 Aug 2024 23:10:00 -0000

What is the role of a delegate at a convention? Why is focusing on the negative the best way to campaign? Is Tim Walz the right choice to help Kamala Harris win?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Democratic Party strategist and super-delegate Bob Mulholland in Chicago to discuss all this and more.

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91. DNC Special: The Pollster (John Anzalone)

Fri, 23 Aug 2024 04:26:00 -0000

What goes on behind the scenes of campaign polling? When did American campaigns stop focusing on policy and become all about themes? How do parties use polls to change their tactics?

Rory and Alastair are joined at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago by John Anzalone to discuss all this and more.

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90. Why we should ban all money from politics and kids from social media (Peter Malinauskas)

Sun, 18 Aug 2024 23:10:00 -0000

Are donations the biggest evil in politics? Should children be banned from social media entirely? How much does Australia look to the UK in 2024?

On today’s episode of Leading, Rory and Alastair are joined by Peter Malinauskas, Premier of South Australia, to answer all this and more.

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89. David Davis: The danger of Farage and the battle for the soul of the Tory Party

Sun, 11 Aug 2024 23:10:00 -0000

Does David Davis still think Brexit has been a success? Was he wrong on gay marriage and the death penalty? Is meritocracy in Britain now a thing of the past?

Alastair and Rory are joined by former Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union, Davis Davis, to discuss all this and more.

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88. Bush and Iraq, being J.D. Vance’s boss, and why Trump loses (David Frum)

Sun, 04 Aug 2024 23:10:00 -0000

What was George W Bush like behind closed doors? Why did Trump really choose ‘never-Trump guy’ JD Vance as his running mate? How can Kamala Harris win the election?

Rory and Alastair are joined by George W Bush's former speech writer and political commentator David Frum to discuss all this and more.

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87. Nick Clegg: Biden, Brexit, and kicking Trump off Facebook (Part 2)

Sun, 28 Jul 2024 23:10:00 -0000

What is the legacy of the coalition government? How do American politicians compare to British? Do the leaders of Silicon Valley have more power than the leaders in Washington and Westminster?

Nick Clegg joins Rory and Alastair for the second instalment of this two part interview.

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86. Nick Clegg: Coalition, Cameron, and Chaos (Part 1)

Sun, 21 Jul 2024 23:00:00 -0000

What closed-doors conversations led to the 2010 coalition? What were the coalition years like? How did it all go wrong for the Liberal Democrats in 2015?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Nick Clegg to discuss all this and more.

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85. Lisa Nandy: Making Britain a cultural superpower

Sun, 14 Jul 2024 23:10:00 -0000

What responsibilities will Lisa Nandy take on as the new Secretary of State for Culture, Media, and Sport? Why was this the most toxic election campaign she has fought? How has the importance of Britain's soft power evolved post-Brexit?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Lisa Nandy to discuss all this and more.

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84. Denmark's former PM on the power of centrist politics, fighting misogyny, and joining the Kinnock empire (Helle Thorning-Schmidt)

Sun, 07 Jul 2024 23:10:00 -0000

How can we unite the extreme right and extreme left? What impact can small countries have on global politics? How was the former Danish Prime Minister influenced by New Labour?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Denmark's former Prime Minister, Helle Thorning-Schmidt, to discuss all this and more.

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83. The Man Who Ran Downing Street

Sun, 30 Jun 2024 23:10:00 -0000

What are prime ministers really like behind closed doors? How do you become Britain’s most powerful civil servant? Are special advisors a force for good or ill?

On today’s episode of Leading, Rory and Alastair are joined by Gus O’Donnell, the former Cabinet Secretary and Head of Civil Service, to answer all these questions and more.

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82. Wes Streeting: Labour, privatisation, and the NHS

Thu, 27 Jun 2024 23:10:00 -0000

Could privatising areas of the NHS save it? How easy is it to reconcile one's faith and sexuality? What is Labour's plan for health and social care?

Rory and Alastair are joined by the Shadow Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, Wes Streeting, to discuss all this and more.

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81. Alex Chalk, Lord Chancellor: How to fix Britain’s prisons

Sun, 23 Jun 2024 23:10:00 -0000

What are the powers of the Lord Chancellor? How important are friendships in politics? What needs to change to solve the prison crisis in the UK?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice Alex Chalk to answer all these questions and more.

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80. Bridget Phillipson: Can we save Britain's schools?

Sun, 16 Jun 2024 23:10:00 -0000

Is there a class system in the UK? What is the State's role in redistributing wealth in society? How did Jeremy Corbyn's leadership impact Red Wall voters?

Shadow Secretary of State for Education Bridget Phillipson joins Rory and Alastair to answer all these questions and more.

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79. Nadhim Zahawi: Iraq, Conservatism, and why he backed Boris Johnson

Thu, 13 Jun 2024 23:10:00 -0000

What does the former Chancellor make of the current Conservative election campaign? What was his experience escaping Saddam Hussein's Iraq? And does he stand by his support of Boris Johnson and Brexit?

Nadhim Zahawi joins Rory and Alastair to answer all these questions and more on today's episode of Leading.

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78. David Blunkett: Education, policing immigration, and the future of the Labour Party (Part 2)

Sun, 09 Jun 2024 23:10:00 -0000

What challenges did David Blunkett face as Home Secretary following 9/11? Does he have any regrets relating to his crime and punishment policies? What does the future look like for Keir Starmer's Labour Party?

Rory and Alastair discuss all these issues and more in the final instalment of our interview series with David Blunkett.

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77. David Blunkett: Tony Blair, growing up blind, and where Margaret Thatcher went wrong (Part 1)

Sun, 02 Jun 2024 23:10:00 -0000

How did the loss of industry in the 1980s affect David Blunkett's politics? What was his experience growing up blind in Sheffield? How did Neil Kinnock and Tony Blair compare?

Rory and Alastair are joined by David Blunkett to discuss all this and more in the first part of this double-header special.

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Legacy... Margaret Thatcher

Fri, 31 May 2024 09:17:00 -0000

Afua Hirsch and Peter Frankopan tell the wild stories of some of the most extraordinary men and women ever to have lived – and ask whether they have the reputation they deserve.

Should Nina Simone’s role in the civil rights movement be more celebrated than it is?

When you find out what Picasso got up to in his studio, can you still admire his art?

And in their most recent series, they take a look at Margaret Thatcher. Was the Iron Lady an inspirational figure, or the architect of a broken Britain?

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76. Rachel Reeves: Britain’s next Chancellor?

Sun, 26 May 2024 23:10:00 -0000

How would an incoming Labour government fund the NHS? How does Reeves and Starmer's relationship compare to Blair and Brown? What is the experience of being a woman in the world of banking and politics?

Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer Rachel Reeves joins Rory and Alastair as they discuss all this and more.

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75. The Greek Prime Minister vs Rishi Sunak: The Elgin Marbles, immigration, and the EU

Sat, 25 May 2024 23:00:00 -0000

Why did Rishi Sunak snub the Prime Minister of Greece? How have Greece solved their immigration issue? How will populist ideology fare in the upcoming European elections?

The Prime Minister of Greece, Kyriakos Mitsotakis, joins Alastair and Rory to discuss all these topics and more in today's Leading.

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74. Kwasi Kwarteng: Liz Truss, becoming Chancellor, and Britain on the brink (Part 2)

Sun, 19 May 2024 23:10:00 -0000

Why did the Tory Party choose to make Liz Truss and Boris Johnson prime minister? How does it feel to be the second shortest-serving chancellor in post-war history? What was the true thinking behind the disastrous Truss-Kwarteng mini-budget?

On today's episode of Leading, Rory and Alastair are joined for the second and final episode of their conversation with former Chancellor of the Exchequer, Kwasi Kwarteng.

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73. Kwasi Kwarteng: Boris Johnson, the British Empire, and Rwanda (Part 1)

Sun, 12 May 2024 23:10:00 -0000

"If I were 22 now, I probably wouldn't vote Conservative" - Kwasi Kwarteng

In the first of two episodes with the former Chancellor of the Exchequer, Rory and Alastair speak to Kwasi about the future of the Tory Party, New Labour's conservatism, Rishi Sunak, Rwanda, Brexit, Liz Truss, diversity in politics, the British Empire, and much, much more.

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72. Nancy Pelosi: From JFK's inauguration to fighting Donald Trump

Sun, 05 May 2024 23:10:00 -0000

How did Nancy Pelosi rise up to be the most politically powerful woman in America? What was it like to attend JFK's inauguration? What's the key secret behind fundraising in US politics?

Rory and Alastair join Speaker Emerita, Nancy Pelosi, to answer all these questions and more.

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71. Israel's former PM on why Netanyahu is finished, the settler movement, and corruption - Ehud Olmert

Sun, 28 Apr 2024 23:10:00 -0000

How much do you know about the last serious attempt at a two state solution in the Israel-Gaza conflict?

On today's episode of Leading, Rory and Alastair are joined by former Israeli PM, Ehud Olmert, to discuss his time in office, the likelihood of a two state solution, and historic corruption charges.

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70. Sadiq Khan: Faith, power, and the truth about Boris Johnson

Sun, 21 Apr 2024 23:10:00 -0000

How much power does the Mayor of London actually have? Have we moved forward - or backwards - as a country when it comes to religion in politics? Should London take a leaf out of New York's book to boost investment in the city?

On today's episode of Leading, Rory and Alastair are joined by the Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, to discuss all this and more.

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69. The brutal truth about net zero and how to vanquish climate populists, with Dieter Helm

Sun, 14 Apr 2024 23:00:00 -0000

Is net zero 2030 impossible to achieve - and is it a mistake to pursue it? Should governments be more brutal with climate investment? Are events like COP a waste of time?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Britain’s leading energy economist, Professor Dieter Helm, to answer all these questions and more.

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68. Israel-Gaza: How the conflict divided Britain and the US, with Ed Kessler

Sun, 07 Apr 2024 23:10:00 -0000

What makes international conflicts turn domestic? Does Qatar play the key role in bringing peace to the Middle East? Is there a generational split in the West over Israel-Gaza?

On today's episode of Leading, Rory and Alastair are joined by Ed Kessler, a leading thinker in interfaith relations, to answer all these questions and more.

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67. A Tale of Two Spies: The former heads of MI5 and MI6 on the Iraq War, double agents, and the IRA

Sun, 31 Mar 2024 23:10:00 -0000

Should spies be allowed to break the law while undercover? What should the relationship between government and intelligence look like? Do we overestimate or underestimate the power and reach of Russia’s FSB and China’s intelligence service?

On today’s special episode of Leading, Rory and Alastair are joined by Eliza Manningham-Buller and John Sawers to discuss what it’s really like to lead MI5 and MI6, respectively.

This episode was recorded before the IS-Khorasan attack in Moscow.

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66. Antony Gormley: Art, religion, and the battle for culture

Mon, 25 Mar 2024 00:10:00 -0000

Can Britain remain a cultural superpower post-Brexit? How does religion and philosophy inform creativity? How can we prevent arts from being cut from curriculums?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Britain's leading sculptor, Antony Gormley, to answer all these questions and more.

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65. Albin Kurti, Prime Minister of Kosovo: Vladimir Putin, surviving prison, and Serbia

Mon, 18 Mar 2024 00:10:00 -0000

How did peace come to the Balkans? What was it like to be a political prisoner? Is Serbia more allied with the West, or with Putin?

Rory and Alastair are joined by the Prime Minister of Kosovo, Albin Kurti, to discuss all this and more.

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64. Caroline Lucas: Leading the Green Party, leaving politics, and the importance of protest

Mon, 11 Mar 2024 00:10:00 -0000

How hard is it to be a one person party in parliament? What can the left learn from the populist right? Could electoral reform actually help Keir Starmer?

On today's episode of Leading, Rory and Alastair are joined by the Green Party's Caroline Lucas to answer all these questions and more.

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63. Sajid Javid: Boris Johnson, Liz Truss, and Shamima Begum (Part 2)

Fri, 08 Mar 2024 00:10:00 -0000

What is Sajid's biggest regret from his time in politics? What barriers did he come up against in the Shamima Begum case during his time as Home Secretary? Will the NHS survive?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Sajid Javid, former Home Secretary, Chancellor of the Exchequer, Secretary of State for Health, and many more cabinet positions, to answer all these questions and more in part two of this two part interview.

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62. Sajid Javid: Austerity, the Tory leadership contest, and the problem with 'islamophobia' (Part 1)

Mon, 04 Mar 2024 00:10:00 -0000

How are politicians working to combat anti-muslim and antisemitic racism in the UK? How does Sajid maintain friendships across party lines? Was austerity the only option for the Conservatives following the financial crash?

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61. James Rubin: Working for Biden, American intervention, and the fight against Russian disinformation

Mon, 26 Feb 2024 00:10:00 -0000

“You took me to one side and said be very, very careful of these people, these neo-cons. Because they’re going to use this to do all sorts of stuff that you shouldn’t be involved in.”

What are the limits of foreign intervention? Do the American people still want their country to be the world’s policeman? Is Biden closer to Clinton in his outlook than to Obama?

On today‘s episode of Leading, Rory and Alastair are joined by James Rubin, former diplomat and commentator on international affairs, as they answer all these questions and more.

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60. Anthony Scaramucci: What it's like to be Donald Trump's Communications Director

Mon, 19 Feb 2024 00:10:00 -0000

Would a second Trump presidency be far more right wing? What drives the former US president? Is he trying to do a deal with Taylor Swift?

In this week's episode of Leading, Rory and Alastair are joined by Anthony Scaramucci, Trump's former spin doctor, where he answers all these questions and more.

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59. Robert Sapolsky: The psychology behind Donald Trump, the science of stress, and the illusion of ‘free will’

Mon, 12 Feb 2024 00:10:00 -0000

Why do we get stressed? What are the psychological differences between conservatives and liberals? Is free will a myth?

Rory and Alastair are joined by scientist Dr Robert Sapolsky to answer all these questions and more in today's episode of Leading.

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58. Humza Yousaf, First Minister of Scotland: Nicola Sturgeon, independence, and his family's escape from Gaza

Mon, 05 Feb 2024 00:10:00 -0000

What is the future of the independence debate in Scotland? How was it to work with Nicola Sturgeon? Have world leaders done enough to curb civilian deaths in Gaza?

On today's episode of Leading, Rory and Alastair are joined by Scotland's First Minister and leader of the SNP, Humza Yousaf, to answer all these questions and more.

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57. Tucker Eskew, spin doctor to George W. Bush and Sarah Palin: Why I'm voting Democrat

Mon, 29 Jan 2024 00:10:00 -0000

What does President Biden need to do to defeat Trump? What went wrong in Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign? Did Republican figures like Sarah Palin and Newt Gingrich pave the way for Trump?

Rory and Alastair are joined by communications expert and political strategist Tucker Eskew to discuss Donald Trump's chances, what it was like working with Sarah Palin, polarisation in the United States, and much more.

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56. Bill Gates: Conspiracy theories, AI, and the politician he most admires

Mon, 22 Jan 2024 00:10:00 -0000

How does one of the richest men in the world run a business? Is artificial intelligence going to be as big as the Windows PC? What politicians does Bill Gates admire?

Bill Gates joins Rory and Alastair on today's episode of Leading to answer all these questions and more.

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55. Gillian Keegan: The future of British schools, union 'barons', and Sunak's Rwanda battle

Mon, 15 Jan 2024 00:10:00 -0000

What's it like to be the Secretary of State for Education who left school at 17? How much power do unions really have in British politics? What's it like to become a Tory MP when your family hails from the Labour Party?

Gillian Keegan joins Rory and Alastair on today's episode of Leading to answer all these questions and more.

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54. Guy Verhofstadt: Is there a case for a European army?

Mon, 08 Jan 2024 00:10:00 -0000

What's it like to run Belgium for a decade? How many people in the EU actually believe in 'ever-closer union'? What are the pros and cons of being a career politician?

On today's episode of Leading, Rory and Alastair are joined by former Belgium prime minister and advocate of a federal Europe, Guy Verhofstadt, to answer all these questions and more.

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53. Seb Coe: Corruption, gender, and the geopolitics of sport

Mon, 01 Jan 2024 00:10:00 -0000

Will doping ever be defeated in sport? What was it like going from world class runner to government whip? Are the Tories finished in Britain?

In the first Leading episode of 2024, Rory and Alastair are joined by Seb Coe to discuss all this and more.

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52. Tom Holland: How religion shaped politics and the Western world

Mon, 25 Dec 2023 00:00:00 -0000

Is the West more Christian than it thinks? Why are so many British prime ministers from religious backgrounds? How does the evangelical support for Donald Trump and the culture wars in the US reflect a Christian civil war?

For a Christmas Day special of Leading, Rory and Alastair are joined by historian Tom Holland, co-host of sister podcast 'The Rest Is History', to discuss the profound impact religion has had on shaping politics and the Western world.

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51. Tim Peake: Will humans colonise Mars?

Mon, 18 Dec 2023 00:10:00 -0000

What is the future of human space exploration? Will people live on Mars in our life time? Are there plans to grow human organs on the moon?

British astronaut Tim Peake joins Rory and Alastair to discuss everything from his time in the army, to the geopolitics of space exploration, to the future of colonising other planets.

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50. Angela Rayner: From zero GCSEs to Britain’s most powerful woman?

Mon, 11 Dec 2023 00:10:00 -0000

Could Labour still lose the next election? What really went wrong under Jeremy Corbyn? What do the left actually think of the right?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Labour's Deputy Leader, Angela Rayner, to discuss all this and more on today's episode of Leading.

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49. Christiana Figueres: COP28, Costa Rica, and surviving the climate crisis

Mon, 04 Dec 2023 00:10:00 -0000

How do countries cooperate to tackle the climate emergency? Is it unusual for the United Nations Climate Change Conference to be held in the oil rich UAE? What does the future hold for renewable energies and reducing carbon emissions?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Costa Rican diplomat Christiana Figueres to discuss COP28, The Paris Agreement, what it was like growing up in a political family in Costa Rica, and how to balance working in public service and with positive mental health.

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48. Simon Sebag Montefiore: The impact of conflicting histories in the Israel-Hamas and Russia-Ukraine wars

Mon, 27 Nov 2023 00:00:00 -0000

Is understanding history a means to peace between Israel and Palestine? Has Putin’s obsession with Russia’s imperial history motivated his invasion of Ukraine? Is it possible to dismantle Hamas under Netanyahu’s leadership?

Rory and Alastair are joined by British historian Simon Sebag Montefiore to answer these questions and more in today's episode of Leading.

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47. Tony Klug: Could the Israel-Hamas conflict restart the peace process?

Fri, 24 Nov 2023 00:05:00 -0000

Is peace possible in the Middle East? What is the difference between a one-state solution and a two-state solution? What is the role of the international community in resolving the conflict between Israel-Hamas?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Tony Klug, leading expert on the two-state solution and conflicts in the Middle East in today's bonus episode.

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46. Arancha González Laya: The World’s Most Powerful Organisations

Mon, 20 Nov 2023 00:05:00 -0000

Are increased military budgets needed following on from Russia's invasion of Ukraine? Will Europe take the same approach to regulating AI as China and the US? What is it like being a woman in front-bench politics?

Rory and Alastair are joined by former Minister of Foreign Affairs in Spain and the Dean of the School of International Affairs at Sciences Po in Paris to discuss all this and more in today's episode of Leading.

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Introducing... Legacy

Wed, 15 Nov 2023 00:00:00 -0000

Everyone leaves a legacy.

In their new podcast series, produced by Goalhanger & Wondery, Afua Hirsch and Peter Frankopan tell the wild stories of some of the most extraordinary men and women ever to have lived – and ask whether they have the reputation they deserve.

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45. Dr Comfort Ero: Resolving deadly conflicts & reforming the UN

Mon, 13 Nov 2023 00:05:00 -0000

How important is the role of the international community in resolving conflict? Is peace possible in the Middle East? How relevant is the United Nations today?

Rory and Alastair are joined by CEO of the Crisis Group, Dr Comfort Ero, to discuss all this and more in today's episode of Leading.

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44. Mark Carney: Bank of England, Trussonomics, and Brexit

Mon, 06 Nov 2023 00:05:00 -0000

Can financial markets help fight climate change? What's the true economic theory behind austerity? What does the Bank of England actually do?

Tune in to today's episode of Leading, where Mark Carney joins Rory and Alastair to answer all these questions and more.

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43. Arnold Schwarzenegger: Trump, Biden, and the American Dream

Mon, 30 Oct 2023 00:05:00 -0000

How do we fix the polarisation in the US? What made him move from Hollywood movies to the world of politics? Does he still identify as a Republican?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Arnold Schwarzenegger to discuss his childhood in Austria, coming to the US, marrying into the Kennedy family, and how he feels about politics today.

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42. Sayeeda Warsi: Britain and the Muslim World

Thu, 26 Oct 2023 23:05:00 -0000

How prevalent is islamophobia in the UK? How can we help Jewish and Muslim communities at this time? Why have the Oslo Accords failed?

Rory and Alastair are joined by the first Muslim woman Chair of the Conservative Party, Baroness Sayeeda Warsi, to discuss her politics, life growing up in an immigrant family in Northern England, the ongoing conflict in the Middle East, and much more.

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41. Reid Hoffman: Bankrolling Biden to beat Trump, the "PayPal Mafia", and Musk's messiah complex

Sun, 22 Oct 2023 23:05:00 -0000

How does life in Silicon Valley compare to the United Kingdom? What was it like working with Elon Musk and Peter Thiel starting PayPal? Is the future of AI as bleak as it seems?

Rory and Alastair are joined by tech entrepreneur, author, and fellow podcaster Reid Hoffman to discuss everything from the dangers of AI during an election to the benefits of friendships.

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40. Minette Batters: The Most Powerful Farmer in Britain

Sun, 15 Oct 2023 23:05:00 -0000

70% of British land is agricultural - yet we don't speak about farming much. What is the politics of the UK's farming industry? How has Brexit affected British produce and trade? And what is it like to represent British farmers interests to a revolving door of politicians in government?

To answer these questions and more is the first woman leader of the National Farmers Union, Minette Batters.

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39. Theresa May: Donald Trump, David Cameron, and ‘Brexit means Brexit’ (Part 2)

Sun, 08 Oct 2023 23:05:00 -0000

Why did Theresa May prefer Gordon Brown to Tony Blair as a Prime Minister? Does the former PM have any regrets over Brexit? How did things unfold behind the scenes after the Salisbury poisoning of a former Russian spy?

In the second of two episodes, Rory and Alastair are joined once again by former Conservative Prime Minister, Theresa May.

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38. Theresa May: Windrush, police, and the cult of personality (Part 1)

Sun, 01 Oct 2023 23:05:00 -0000

What is Theresa May’s biggest regret from her time as Home Secretary? Why was the Hillsborough disaster such an abuse of power? What’s it like to stay on as an MP after occupying the highest office in the land?

On today’s episode of Leading, Rory and Alastair are joined by former Conservative Prime Minister, Theresa May.

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37. Chris Hipkins, New Zealand PM: Working with Xi Jinping, fighting to stay in power, and zero covid's double-edged sword

Sun, 24 Sep 2023 23:05:00 -0000

What is it like going from cabinet minister to Prime Minister? Are politicians in New Zealand more courteous than politicians in the UK? Why was New Zealand's Covid-19 response so effective?

From the middle of his campaign trail for re-election, New Zealand's Prime Minister Chris Hipkins is here to discuss all these questions and more with Rory and Alastair in this week's Leading.

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36. Andy Burnham and Andy Street: A Tale of Two Cities

Sun, 17 Sep 2023 23:05:00 -0000

What is it like to run a metropolitan area? How does devolution impact the citizens of regional areas? Does party affiliation affect the decisions a mayor makes?

Andy Burnham, Labour Mayor of Greater Manchester, and Andy Street, Conservative Mayor of the West Midlands, meet with Rory and Alastair to discuss their two cities, their contrasting politics, and working towards their shared goal of further devolved powers for city regions.

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35. Cathy Ashton: Dealing with Putin and Lavrov, Kosovo–Serbia, and 'radical humility'

Sun, 10 Sep 2023 23:05:00 -0000

How do we retain empathy when negotiating with a stranger who has a radically different worldview to our own?

As the former High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs, Cathy Ashton worked with many world leaders: Vladimir Putin in Russia, Serbia's Ivica Dacic, Kosovo's Hashim Thaci, and Iran's Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif.

Former Leader of the House of Lords, Cathy Ashton has also been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for her diplomacy. Listen to hear Rory and Alastair discuss her life, the European Union, conflicts abroad, and why empathy is so important in foreign affairs.

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34. Ed Davey: Leading the Lib Dems, fighting the Tories, and a coalition with Starmer’s Labour?

Sun, 03 Sep 2023 23:05:00 -0000

What was it like for the Liberal Democrats in coalition? Would Ed Davey be prepared to work alongside Keir Starmer in another coalition government? Is tactical voting a good idea? Join Rory and Alastair as they speak with leader of the Liberal Democrats, Ed Davey, to discuss all these questions and more.

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33. Mustafa Suleyman: Will AI save or destroy humanity?

Sun, 27 Aug 2023 23:05:00 -0000

How much do you really know about the dangers of AI? Is it the best hope we have of surviving as a species, or will it lead to the destruction of humanity?

On today's episode of Leading Alastair and Rory are joined by Mustafa Suleyman as he recounts his rise from North London council estate to the vanguard of the tech revolution.

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32. Miriam González Durántez: Navigating Silicon Valley, the Cameron-Clegg years, and the fight for gender equality

Sun, 20 Aug 2023 23:05:00 -0000

How can we empower young women to seek positions of power? What was it like having a ringside seat during the Cameron-Clegg government? Is there more inequality between the sexes in the UK, Spain, or California?

Leading international trade lawyer and vice chair of UBS Europe, Miriam González Durántez, speaks to Alastair and Rory about growing up in post-Franco Spain, the state of Spanish politics, how Brexit has changed the UK's international 'clout', and her experiences with David Cameron and George Osborne as Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg's wife.

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31: Yuval Noah Harari: The dangers of AI and the future of humanity (Part 2)

Mon, 14 Aug 2023 00:00:00 -0000

What makes homo sapiens unique from other living creatures? What will happen to society if artificial intelligence dictates culture? Why have conservative parties the world over “committed suicide”?

Join Rory and Alastair for the second part of their discussion with historian and intellectual Yuval Noah Harari.

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30: Anthony Joshua: Responding to failure, Saudi Arabia, and Tyson Fury

Sun, 06 Aug 2023 23:05:00 -0000

From raving and "wheeler-dealing" to heavyweight champion of the world, Anthony Joshua's story is unmissable. Listen to Rory, Alastair and AJ talk about the culture of boxing, socialism, how imperative a positive mindset is to winning, and whether a highly anticipated fight with Tyson Fury will ever happen...

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29: Yuval Noah Harari: Crisis and tragedy in Israel (Part 1)

Mon, 31 Jul 2023 00:00:00 -0000

‘We are facing spiritual and moral destruction.’

Is Israeli democracy facing the most dangerous moment in its history? Yuval Noah Harari joins Rory and Alastair to discuss his first-hand experience of the protests against the government of Benjamin Netanyahu during this politically existential moment for the country.

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28: Paul Nurse: The power of genetics, battling politicians, and the fight against cancer

Mon, 24 Jul 2023 01:00:00 -0000

How close are we to finding a cure for cancer? What did the government do wrong - in scientific terms - during the pandemic? Do Labour or the Tories have a proper plan to harness the power of British science?

On today’s episode of Leading, Alastair and Rory are joined by Nobel Prize-winner Sir Paul Nurse to answer all these questions and more.

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27: Feargal Sharkey: Teenage Kicks, Bobby Sands, and saving our rivers

Mon, 17 Jul 2023 18:42:00 -0000

Can we reverse the damage done to our polluted rivers and seas? What was it like to write Teenage Kicks? How has Brexit hamstrung the music industry?

From punk singer to political activist, Feargal Sharkey is now the leading figure in the fight against sewage and water pollution in the UK. On today's episode of Leading he sits down with Alastair to discuss environmentalism, growing up in Derry, the success of The Undertones, and much, much more.

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26: Francis Fukuyama: Trump, Modi, and ‘The End of History’

Mon, 10 Jul 2023 01:00:00 -0000

What was the worst political mistake in modern history? How do religious Republicans bring themselves to support Trump? Was it wrong to describe the fall of the Soviet Union as ‘The End of History’?

On today’s episode of Leading, Alastair and Rory sit down with political scientist and writer Francis Fukuyama to answer all these questions, discuss why he coined the phrase ‘The End of History’, and argue whether authoritarian regimes are ‘destined’ to fail.

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25: Michael Ignatieff: Fighting Orban's Global Conservative Cabal

Mon, 03 Jul 2023 01:00:00 -0000

What's it like to know how your obituary will read? What makes the democratic system the best for fighting against climate change? How does politics change a person, whether they like it or not? Alastair and Rory sit down with politician, academic, and writer Michael Ignatieff on today's episode of Leading to discuss all this and more.

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24: John Major: The Gulf War, Black Wednesday, and Populism (Part 2)

Mon, 26 Jun 2023 01:00:00 -0000

What was it like fighting New Labour? Why did Black Wednesday happen? How did Ian McKellen help bring the campaign for gay rights into Downing Street?

Join Alastair and Rory as they answer all these questions with Sir John Major in the second of two episodes with the former Tory prime minister.

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23: John Major: From Brixton to Downing Street (Part 1)

Mon, 19 Jun 2023 01:00:00 -0000

Why is Sir John Major a Tory? How did he make it from Brixton to 10 Downing Street? What was it like to witness the fall of Margaret Thatcher first hand?

In the first of two episodes, Rory and Alastair are joined by the former prime minister to answer all these questions and more.

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22: Kate Raworth: Doughnut economics and thriving in balance

Mon, 12 Jun 2023 01:00:00 -0000

In the 21st century, the impact of financial and environmental crises can be felt by all. But how do we marry the nature of the economy with the ever depleting means of the planet? Rory and Alastair discuss the radical doughnut economic model with economist Kate Raworth to unpick how it could work politically, and how it is already helping cities to thrive in balance.

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21: Mary McAleese: Building bridges as the President of Ireland

Mon, 05 Jun 2023 01:00:00 -0000

For former President of Ireland Mary McAleese, the personal is the political. Growing up in Belfast with a deeply personal link to sectarian violence, her aim as President was to promote unity and build bridges between political, religious and cultural divides. Alastair speaks to her about misogyny in the Catholic Church, her role as a human rights lawyer, the violence of the Troubles, and much, much more.

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20: Jonathan Powell: How to negotiate with terrorists

Mon, 29 May 2023 01:00:00 -0000

The role of Downing Street Chief of Staff was created for him, and he was the only senior advisor to last the whole period of Tony Blair's premiership - but who is the real Jonathan Powell, and how did he do it?

Rory and Alastair are joined by Jonathan Powell to discuss the New Labour years, the Northern Ireland peace process, how he negotiates with terrorists, and more.

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19: Leo Varadkar: Ireland's Taoiseach on NATO, China, and Joe Biden

Mon, 22 May 2023 01:00:00 -0000

How does the Irish Taoiseach feel about Brexit? Would Leo Varadkar consider himself a Tory in the English parliamentary system? Does Ireland have a problem with alcohol?

Leo Varadkar speaks to Rory and Alastair about all this, plus his childhood in Dublin, juggling social liberalism with economic conservatism, and the future of AI in healthcare.

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18: George Osborne: Austerity, Boris Johnson, and the UK's next Prime Minister

Mon, 15 May 2023 01:00:00 -0000

Does George Osborne regret leaving politics? Does he think Sunak can win the next general election? What did he admire about New Labour, Tony Blair, and Gordon Brown?

Tune in to today's episode of Leading to hear Alastair and Rory's conversation with the former Chancellor of the Exchequer.

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17: Gerry Adams: The Troubles, Margaret Thatcher, and the IRA

Mon, 08 May 2023 01:00:00 -0000

How much do you know about Thatcher's back channels with Irish republicans during the Troubles? What are Gerry Adams' emotions towards the 1984 Brighton hotel bombing, looking back now in 2023? Who were the most important people in the negotiations that brought peace to the island of Ireland?

Alastair and Rory sat down with the former Sinn Féin president to discuss all these questions and more in today's episode of Leading.

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16: Tony Blair: Taking insults, swallowing pride, and negotiating with both sides

Mon, 01 May 2023 01:00:00 -0000

How was peace achieved in Northern Ireland? What was it like speaking to the IRA, loyalist paramilitary groups and victims simultaneously? Who were the most important individuals involved in the peace process?

To mark the 25th anniversary of the Good Friday Agreement, Alastair and Rory are joined by former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair to answer all these questions and more.

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15: Hillary Clinton: Fighting Putin, the Return of Trump, and the Killing of Osama Bin Laden

Mon, 24 Apr 2023 01:00:00 -0000

Will Donald Trump return to the White House? What happened behind the scenes during the killing of Osama Bin Laden? How should we combat the insidious effect of technology and social media on the younger generation?

Alastair and Rory are joined by Hillary Rodham Clinton to discuss all this and more on today's episode of Leading.

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14: David Miliband: The Age of Impunity

Mon, 17 Apr 2023 01:00:00 -0000

Why did David Miliband leave British politics? How did he get involved in the New Labour project? And what does he spend his time doing now?

Join David as he talks to Rory and Alastair about Labour, international development, US politics, life in New York City, and the International Rescue Committee.

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13: Brian Cox: Succession, socialism, and Scotland

Mon, 10 Apr 2023 01:00:00 -0000

What do the Murdochs think of Succession? Should the SNP change its name? Why do some actors swear by method acting while others find it such an alien approach?

Actor Brian Cox sits down with Alastair to answer these questions and talk Succession, Scotland and socialism...

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12: David Baddiel: God, Anti-Semitism and the Y-Word

Mon, 03 Apr 2023 01:00:00 -0000

How aware are you of anti-Semitism in Britain? Comedian and author David Baddiel tells Alastair and Rory about his family, his upbringing and his views on anti-Semitism in modern Britain.

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11: Gary Lineker: Politics, football and the BBC

Mon, 27 Mar 2023 01:00:00 -0000

Gary Lineker is regularly told to 'stick to football'. Now, after recently tweeting his views on the Government’s refugee policy, the Match Of The Day presenter sits down with Alastair and Rory to discuss his upbringing, life in the public eye, and what really happened after he was suspended (and later reinstated) in his role at the BBC.

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10: Rahima Mahmut: The Uyghur Genocide

Mon, 20 Mar 2023 02:00:00 -0000

How much do you know about what's happening to the Uyghurs in Xinjiang, China?

Alastair is joined by Rahima Mahmut, an Uyghur artist, activist, and the chair of 'Stop Uyghur Genocide' to explore the harrowing topic in detail.

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9: Bernie Sanders: A fight for equality

Mon, 13 Mar 2023 02:00:00 -0000

Longest serving independent Senator of the United States Bernie Sanders has spent his life fighting for the rights of working people. Today, he joins Rory and Alastair to discuss income inequality, the two-party system and its limitations, healthcare reform and whether or not his success in debates against Hillary Clinton inadvertently played a part in Trump's presidential victory...

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8: Bertie Ahern: The Troubles, peace, and the future of Ireland

Mon, 06 Mar 2023 02:00:00 -0000

How did the violence of The Troubles come to an end on the island of Ireland?

Bertie Ahern, former Irish Taoiseach who served from 1997 to 2008, speaks to Alastair about his father's time in the IRA, how Ireland has changed over the last three decades, and what it was liking working alongside Tony Blair, Bill Clinton, Martin McGuinness and Ian Paisley on the road the Belfast Good Friday Agreements.

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7: Fiona Hill: Working with Trump and fighting against Putin

Mon, 27 Feb 2023 02:00:00 -0000

From a coal-miner's daughter to the White House. Fiona Hill became a leading foreign policy advisor to three presidents, a United States National Security Council official, and a key witness in Donald Trump's 2019 impeachment hearings. In this fascinating interview for Leading, Hill talks about her upbringing in Bishop Auckland, the future of the Ukraine conflict, and what it was really like working under Trump…

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6: David Lammy: The Future of Foreign Policy

Mon, 20 Feb 2023 02:00:00 -0000

Is David Lammy the next politician to represent Britain on the global stage? Alastair and Rory speak to the Shadow Secretary of State for Foreign, Commonwealth and Development Affairs about his upbringing, the Department for International Development, the Labour Party, tribalism in politics, and the role of foreign policy for Britain today.

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5: Michael Johnson: Politics, protest, and sport

Mon, 13 Feb 2023 02:00:00 -0000

Do athletes now have a responsibility to use their platform to promote political change?

Four-time Olympic gold medalist Michael Johnson sits down with Alastair to discuss the future of athletics, drugs in sport, political polarisation, and recovering from a stroke that doctors feared could stop him from ever walking again.

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4: Michel Barnier: The Truth Behind Brexit

Mon, 06 Feb 2023 02:00:00 -0000

Who is the EU's man behind Brexit? How did he combat Britain's negotiating tactics? What is life like at the top of European politics?

Alastair and Rory are joined by Michel Barnier, the EU's chief Brexit negotiator, three years on from Britain's exit from the European Union.

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3: Alan Milburn: Can the NHS be saved?

Mon, 30 Jan 2023 02:00:00 -0000

Is the NHS beyond saving? Could a Labour government fix it? How should Rishi Sunak deal with strikes?

This week on Leading, Alastair and Rory are joined by former Secretary of State for Health, Alan Milburn. Alan is credited for delivering modernisation to the NHS in the New Labour years, introducing foundation trusts, and is Rory’s hero for his work on reform.

Tune in to hear his thoughts on the struggles of being an MP, the biggest challenges facing the NHS, and Labour’s lack of clarity in opposition.

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2: Marina Litvinenko: Fighting Putin's poison

Mon, 23 Jan 2023 02:00:00 -0000

Alexander Litvinenko: the man who solved his own murder after being poisoned by the Russian State in London.

Marina, his widow, battled for justice successfully in both a UK public enquiry and a case at the European Court of Human Rights.

As a leading critic of Vladimir Putin's regime, 'mafia state' and invasion of Ukraine - Marina sat down with Alastair to discuss Alexander's murder, her fight for justice, being in Ukraine when Russia invaded last February, and how the Kremlin tried to conscript her son for the war in Ukraine.

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1: Michael Heseltine: From Thatcher to Sunak

Mon, 16 Jan 2023 02:00:00 -0000

In the first ever episode of ‘Leading’, Alastair and Rory are joined by former Deputy Prime Minister, Michael Heseltine. One of the biggest names in the last half-century of British politics, Lord Heseltine discusses everything from his crucial role in the rise and fall of Margaret Thatcher to his current position in the House of Lords.

Tune in to hear Michael talk about how politics has changed, why he lost the Conservative whip, Europe, Brexit, and the Miners’ Strike.

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