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    <description>David Thom talks with some of the smartest minds in Australia to figure out how we got to this weird moment in history. From politics and identity to music and sport, each episode features a new expert as they answer the question: How did we get here?



How We Got Here:

Host: David Thom

Music: Anya Haywood</description>
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Music: Anya Haywood</itunes:summary>
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      <title>AFL is  older then Soccer - The History of Australian sport: Daryl Adair</title>
      <description>Australia is a nation defined by its sport. But there is more to our sporting past then many know. On this episode of How We Got Here David Thom sits down with Daryl Adair Associate Professor of Sport Management in the Business School at University of Technology Sydney to discuss.



How We Got Here:

Host: David Thom

Music: Anya Haywood</description>
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Music: Anya Haywood</itunes:summary>
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      <title>How Australian history was made: Anna Clark</title>
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On this episode of How We Got Here, I'm joined by historian Anna Clark and author of 'Making Austalian History' to discuss all of this and more.



How We Got Here:

Host: David Thom

Music: Anya Haywood</description>
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      <title> What did Australia really look like when it was colonised?: Bruce Pascoe</title>
      <description>Bruce Pascoe is one of the most exciting and controversial minds in Australia. His book Dark Emu broke open the idea the Aboriginal civilisations were primitive nomadic societies. I brought him on to talk about one fascinating question: Over 60,000 years of uninterupted cultural development, can you perfect society?



On this episode of How We Got Here, David Thom and Bruce Pascoe discuss time, agriculture and law throughout all of Australian history.



How We Got Here:

Host: David Thom

Music: Anya Haywood</description>
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On this episode of How We Got Here, David Thom and Bruce Pascoe discuss time, agriculture and law throughout all of Australian history.



How We Got Here:

Host: David Thom

Music: Anya Haywood</itunes:summary>
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On this episode of How We Got Here I sit down with Shane Howard, the lead singer of Goanna to discuss.



How We Got Here:

Host: David Thom

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How We Got Here:

Host: David Thom

Music: Anya Haywood, Goanna</itunes:summary>
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On this weeks episode of 'How We Got Here' I'm joined by Amy to discuss her book and Howard's legacy.



Host: David Thom

Music: Anya Haywood</description>
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Music: Anya Haywood</itunes:summary>
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<p>On this weeks episode of 'How We Got Here' I'm joined by Amy to discuss her book and Howard's legacy.</p>
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<p>Music: Anya Haywood</p>]]>
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      <title>The Brutality of Aussie history: Warwick Thornton</title>
      <description>Warwick Thornton is one of Australia's most exciting filmmakers. Sydney Morning Herald named his 2009 film Samson &amp; Delilah the greatest Australian film of all time.



But his depiction of Australia's frontier history in 2017's Sweet Country and now in 2026's Wolfram makes him one of the most interesting chroniclers of Australian history. 



 On this episode of How We Got Here, I sat down with Warwick to discuss his ideas on Australian progress and his new film Wolfram, in cinemas now!



How We Got Here:

Host: David Thom

Music: Anya Haywood</description>
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But his depiction of Australia's frontier history in 2017's Sweet Country and now in 2026's Wolfram makes him one of the most interesting chroniclers of Australian history. 



 On this episode of How We Got Here, I sat down with Warwick to discuss his ideas on Australian progress and his new film Wolfram, in cinemas now!



How We Got Here:

Host: David Thom

Music: Anya Haywood</itunes:summary>
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<p> On this episode of How We Got Here, I sat down with Warwick to discuss his ideas on Australian progress and his new film Wolfram, in cinemas now!</p>
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<p>Music: Anya Haywood</p>]]>
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      <title>The Idea of Australia: Julianne Schultz</title>
      <description>What does it mean to be Australian? 

On this weeks episode David is joined by Julianne Shultz, emeritus professor at Griffith University of media and culture. She was the founding editor of the Australian literary and current affairs journal Griffith Review. She has been an academic, a journalist, an author, and columnist for the Guardian. In 2022 she wrote a book called The Idea of Australia: A search for the soul of the nation, which SBS later turned into a TV show. Together we will try answer that exact question

Host: David Thom

Music: Anya Haywood</description>
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Host: David Thom

Music: Anya Haywood</itunes:summary>
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