Say More en Say More is a podcast that delves into the 'why' behind successful entrepreneurs and creators. We believe true success stems from aligning personal passion, skills, and goals with your business, not just tactical execution. In interviews, we go beyond just building a business to explore the hearts and minds of founders, builders, and creators to prove our hypothesis and establish the throughlines of success and longevity. https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/758da674-b2ca-11ef-9bdf-8ffdfecd17fe/image/35263f50a44770ede4e7a619a6a4f4ea.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&max-w=3000&max-h=3000&fit=crop&auto=format,compress Say More episodic Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen Say More is a podcast that delves into the 'why' behind successful entrepreneurs and creators. We believe true success stems from aligning personal passion, skills, and goals with your business, not just tactical execution. In interviews, we go beyond just building a business to explore the hearts and minds of founders, builders, and creators to prove our hypothesis and establish the throughlines of success and longevity. Say More is a podcast that delves into the 'why' behind successful entrepreneurs and creators. We believe true success stems from aligning personal passion, skills, and goals with your business, not just tactical execution. In interviews, we go beyond just building a business to explore the hearts and minds of founders, builders, and creators to prove our hypothesis and establish the throughlines of success and longevity.

]]> Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen phineas@studiofriends.com Business vs. Brand | Nadaam & Building What Money Can't Buy with Matt Scanlan Matt Scanlan, co-founder of Nadaam, joins us to talk about the wild origin story behind his cashmere empire, including the time he stuffed $2.5M into 32 shopping bags and trekked into the Gobi Desert. We unpack how Mongolia reshaped his understanding of value, sustainability, and what it means to build a business that’s both ethical and profitable. From nonprofit roots to running three fashion brands at once, Matt shares his take on “millennialist capitalism,” navigating scale without selling out, and why gratitude and equity matter in business. We get into brand-building, viral storytelling, and the real talk behind partnerships, hiring, and economic curveballs. Topics Covered: The Gobi Desert cashmere story Brand-building, creativity, and why you can't rush it Brand doesn't equal business Getting so many "no's" to get to "yes" Running multiple brands at once Searching for external validation only to learn it's an inside job Hiring, firing, and what Matt is really good at Navigating scale, values, and consumer tension Luck vs. timing in startup success Follow Nadaam on Instagram: ⁠  / naadam.coand  ⁠ online: ⁠https://naadam.co/⁠ Thank you to our sponsors, Monark & Co (monarkandco.com) and to The Big Favorite (thebigfavorite.com) - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 and wear it under your Nadaam! Tue, 13 Jan 2026 16:39:00 -0000 full Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen Matt Scanlan, co-founder of Nadaam, joins us to talk about the wild origin story behind his cashmere empire, including the time he stuffed $2.5M into 32 shopping bags and trekked into the Gobi Desert. We unpack how Mongolia reshaped his understanding of value, sustainability, and what it means to build a business that’s both ethical and profitable. From nonprofit roots to running three fashion brands at once, Matt shares his take on “millennialist capitalism,” navigating scale without selling out, and why gratitude and equity matter in business. We get into brand-building, viral storytelling, and the real talk behind partnerships, hiring, and economic curveballs. Topics Covered: The Gobi Desert cashmere story Brand-building, creativity, and why you can't rush it Brand doesn't equal business Getting so many "no's" to get to "yes" Running multiple brands at once Searching for external validation only to learn it's an inside job Hiring, firing, and what Matt is really good at Navigating scale, values, and consumer tension Luck vs. timing in startup success Follow Nadaam on Instagram: ⁠  / naadam.coand  ⁠ online: ⁠https://naadam.co/⁠ Thank you to our sponsors, Monark & Co (monarkandco.com) and to The Big Favorite (thebigfavorite.com) - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 and wear it under your Nadaam! Matt Scanlan, co-founder of Nadaam, joins us to talk about the wild origin story behind his cashmere empire, including the time he stuffed $2.5M into 32 shopping bags and trekked into the Gobi Desert. We unpack how Mongolia reshaped his understanding of value, sustainability, and what it means to build a business that’s both ethical and profitable. From nonprofit roots to running three fashion brands at once, Matt shares his take on “millennialist capitalism,” navigating scale without selling out, and why gratitude and equity matter in business. We get into brand-building, viral storytelling, and the real talk behind partnerships, hiring, and economic curveballs. Topics Covered: The Gobi Desert cashmere story Brand-building, creativity, and why you can't rush it Brand doesn't equal business Getting so many "no's" to get to "yes" Running multiple brands at once Searching for external validation only to learn it's an inside job Hiring, firing, and what Matt is really good at Navigating scale, values, and consumer tension Luck vs. timing in startup success Follow Nadaam on Instagram: ⁠  / naadam.coand  ⁠ online: ⁠https://naadam.co/⁠ Thank you to our sponsors, Monark & Co (monarkandco.com) and to The Big Favorite (thebigfavorite.com) - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 and wear it under your Nadaam!

]]> 3805 If You Know, You Know | Mickey Drexler on Intuition, Gut, & Seeing Around Corners Often referred to as “the merchant prince”, Mickey Drexler has defined multiple eras in American fashion. He took Gap’s revenue from $400M to nearly $15B, created iconic brands, Old Navy and Madewell, reinvented J.Crew and took it public in 2006, and today serves as Chairman of Alex Mill and head of Drexler Ventures. Named Retailer of the Decade by WWD, honored by the CFDA, and once described by Steve Jobs as “the best retailer in the world”, Mickey’s career is a masterclass in vision, creativity, and leadership. In this episode, we explore: Authenticity and adversity: Why money was never his motivator, and what truly drives his turnarounds. Personal journey: Growing up in the Bronx, living in imagination, and lessons from being fired at Gap. Creativity + business: How he balanced merchant instincts with CEO responsibilities, and why creative-led brands often win. Mentorship and influence: His friendship with Steve Jobs, recognizing talent and good design Merchant mindset: Trusting your gut, simplicity as luxury, and the art of brand building. Legacy + future: the state of fashion today, advice for young people and women, and what excites him most at Alex Mill. Follow Mickey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/millard-mickey-drexler-1b00a9269/ and https://www.instagram.com/mickeydrexler/?hl=en  Alex Mill: https://www.alexmill.com/  Thank you to our sponsors, Monark & Co (monarkandco.com) and to The Big Favorite (thebigfavorite.com) - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 Tue, 23 Dec 2025 13:59:00 -0000 full Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen Often referred to as “the merchant prince”, Mickey Drexler has defined multiple eras in American fashion. He took Gap’s revenue from $400M to nearly $15B, created iconic brands, Old Navy and Madewell, reinvented J.Crew and took it public in 2006, and today serves as Chairman of Alex Mill and head of Drexler Ventures. Named Retailer of the Decade by WWD, honored by the CFDA, and once described by Steve Jobs as “the best retailer in the world”, Mickey’s career is a masterclass in vision, creativity, and leadership. In this episode, we explore: Authenticity and adversity: Why money was never his motivator, and what truly drives his turnarounds. Personal journey: Growing up in the Bronx, living in imagination, and lessons from being fired at Gap. Creativity + business: How he balanced merchant instincts with CEO responsibilities, and why creative-led brands often win. Mentorship and influence: His friendship with Steve Jobs, recognizing talent and good design Merchant mindset: Trusting your gut, simplicity as luxury, and the art of brand building. Legacy + future: the state of fashion today, advice for young people and women, and what excites him most at Alex Mill. Follow Mickey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/millard-mickey-drexler-1b00a9269/ and https://www.instagram.com/mickeydrexler/?hl=en  Alex Mill: https://www.alexmill.com/  Thank you to our sponsors, Monark & Co (monarkandco.com) and to The Big Favorite (thebigfavorite.com) - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 Often referred to as “the merchant prince”, Mickey Drexler has defined multiple eras in American fashion. He took Gap’s revenue from $400M to nearly $15B, created iconic brands, Old Navy and Madewell, reinvented J.Crew and took it public in 2006, and today serves as Chairman of Alex Mill and head of Drexler Ventures. Named Retailer of the Decade by WWD, honored by the CFDA, and once described by Steve Jobs as “the best retailer in the world”, Mickey’s career is a masterclass in vision, creativity, and leadership.

In this episode, we explore:

  • Authenticity and adversity: Why money was never his motivator, and what truly drives his turnarounds.

  • Personal journey: Growing up in the Bronx, living in imagination, and lessons from being fired at Gap.

  • Creativity + business: How he balanced merchant instincts with CEO responsibilities, and why creative-led brands often win.

  • Mentorship and influence: His friendship with Steve Jobs, recognizing talent and good design

  • Merchant mindset: Trusting your gut, simplicity as luxury, and the art of brand building.

  • Legacy + future: the state of fashion today, advice for young people and women, and what excites him most at Alex Mill.

Follow Mickey: https://www.linkedin.com/in/millard-mickey-drexler-1b00a9269/ and https://www.instagram.com/mickeydrexler/?hl=en 

Alex Mill: https://www.alexmill.com/ 


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]]> 3063 The Honest Company & the Power of Intuition | Christopher Gavigan on Building Better Businesses In this episode of Say More, we sit down with Christopher Gavigan: entrepreneur, environmental advocate, co‑founder of The Honest Company and Prima and now founder of Walkfully. From his early studies in environmental science to building mission‑driven businesses, Christopher shares how values, authenticity, and purpose have guided his journey. What You’ll Hear in This Episode: Roots & values: How growing up shaped Christopher’s worldview and drew him to environmental sciences Nonprofit lessons: The highs and lows of leading a nonprofit, and what he carried forward. Authenticity & truth: Why authenticity is more than a buzzword, and what it means to him personally. The Honest Company story: How the vision evolved, and how co‑founders’ “superpowers” made the business thrive. Family & place: Why he returned to the East Coast after years in California, and what raising four kids has taught him. Failures & resilience: How setbacks shaped his career and the lessons learned. Legacy & purpose: His perspective on legacy, and whether founder alignment with deep purpose is the key to success. Walkfully: His next venture… Book recommendations: Comfort Crisis, Michael Easter Second Mountain, David Brooks The Way Forward, Yung Pueblo Pivot Year, Brianna Wiest Follow Christoper: On IG: https://www.instagram.com/christopher... Check out Walkfully: https://walkfully.com/ Thank you to our sponsors, Amelia Risk (ameliarisk.com) - get a Free audit by signing up through their site - and to The Big Favorite (thebigfavorite.com) - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 Tue, 09 Dec 2025 17:22:00 -0000 full Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen In this episode of Say More, we sit down with Christopher Gavigan: entrepreneur, environmental advocate, co‑founder of The Honest Company and Prima and now founder of Walkfully. From his early studies in environmental science to building mission‑driven businesses, Christopher shares how values, authenticity, and purpose have guided his journey. What You’ll Hear in This Episode: Roots & values: How growing up shaped Christopher’s worldview and drew him to environmental sciences Nonprofit lessons: The highs and lows of leading a nonprofit, and what he carried forward. Authenticity & truth: Why authenticity is more than a buzzword, and what it means to him personally. The Honest Company story: How the vision evolved, and how co‑founders’ “superpowers” made the business thrive. Family & place: Why he returned to the East Coast after years in California, and what raising four kids has taught him. Failures & resilience: How setbacks shaped his career and the lessons learned. Legacy & purpose: His perspective on legacy, and whether founder alignment with deep purpose is the key to success. Walkfully: His next venture… Book recommendations: Comfort Crisis, Michael Easter Second Mountain, David Brooks The Way Forward, Yung Pueblo Pivot Year, Brianna Wiest Follow Christoper: On IG: https://www.instagram.com/christopher... Check out Walkfully: https://walkfully.com/ Thank you to our sponsors, Amelia Risk (ameliarisk.com) - get a Free audit by signing up through their site - and to The Big Favorite (thebigfavorite.com) - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 In this episode of Say More, we sit down with Christopher Gavigan: entrepreneur, environmental advocate, co‑founder of The Honest Company and Prima and now founder of Walkfully. From his early studies in environmental science to building mission‑driven businesses, Christopher shares how values, authenticity, and purpose have guided his journey. What You’ll Hear in This Episode:

Roots & values: How growing up shaped Christopher’s worldview and drew him to environmental sciences

Nonprofit lessons: The highs and lows of leading a nonprofit, and what he carried forward.

Authenticity & truth: Why authenticity is more than a buzzword, and what it means to him personally.

The Honest Company story: How the vision evolved, and how co‑founders’ “superpowers” made the business thrive.

Family & place: Why he returned to the East Coast after years in California, and what raising four kids has taught him.

Failures & resilience: How setbacks shaped his career and the lessons learned.

Legacy & purpose: His perspective on legacy, and whether founder alignment with deep purpose is the key to success.

Walkfully: His next venture…

Book recommendations: Comfort Crisis, Michael Easter Second Mountain, David Brooks The Way Forward, Yung Pueblo Pivot Year, Brianna Wiest Follow Christoper: On IG: https://www.instagram.com/christopher... Check out Walkfully: https://walkfully.com/ Thank you to our sponsors, Amelia Risk (ameliarisk.com) - get a Free audit by signing up through their site - and to The Big Favorite (thebigfavorite.com) - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15

]]> 4045 The Soul of Simplicity | Jenné Claiborne on Food, Family & Finding Her Path In this radiant and deeply personal episode, we sit down with chef, author, entrepreneur, and wellness advocate Jenné Claiborne to explore the journey behind her plant-based empire and the inner work that fuels it. From childhood memories in her nana’s kitchen to launching a blog “just for fun” that transformed her life, Jenné shares how curiosity, creativity, and purpose led her back to vegan food. We talk about the moment she realized she wanted more out of life and the questions she asked herself to get there. She opens up about: Raising her vibration, listening to her downloads and living in abundance; what that really means, and how it shows up daily Her hustle to start her private cheffing business along with her blog and YouTube channel and what kept her sticking to it to become the number 1 vegan chef in NYC How she manages her ambition with the desire to work less & smarter today Her relationship to spirituality and how veganism forces you to go against the grain Building a business as a woman of color, navigating criticism, and staying grounded Motherhood, single parenting, and raising a vegan daughter with intention and joy How it’s become easier for her to enjoy the journey versus thinking about the end goal Follow Jenné: YouTube:    / @sweetpotatosoul   Instagram:   / sweetpotatosoul   Blog: https://sweetpotatosoul.com/ Books’s Jenné likes: Kathy Freston’s Veganist Michael Singer’s Untethered Soul Thank you to our sponsors, Amelia Risk (ameliarisk.com) - get a Free audit by signing up through their site - and to The Big Favorite (thebigfavorite.com) - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 Wed, 19 Nov 2025 17:04:00 -0000 full Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen In this radiant and deeply personal episode, we sit down with chef, author, entrepreneur, and wellness advocate Jenné Claiborne to explore the journey behind her plant-based empire and the inner work that fuels it. From childhood memories in her nana’s kitchen to launching a blog “just for fun” that transformed her life, Jenné shares how curiosity, creativity, and purpose led her back to vegan food. We talk about the moment she realized she wanted more out of life and the questions she asked herself to get there. She opens up about: Raising her vibration, listening to her downloads and living in abundance; what that really means, and how it shows up daily Her hustle to start her private cheffing business along with her blog and YouTube channel and what kept her sticking to it to become the number 1 vegan chef in NYC How she manages her ambition with the desire to work less & smarter today Her relationship to spirituality and how veganism forces you to go against the grain Building a business as a woman of color, navigating criticism, and staying grounded Motherhood, single parenting, and raising a vegan daughter with intention and joy How it’s become easier for her to enjoy the journey versus thinking about the end goal Follow Jenné: YouTube:    / @sweetpotatosoul   Instagram:   / sweetpotatosoul   Blog: https://sweetpotatosoul.com/ Books’s Jenné likes: Kathy Freston’s Veganist Michael Singer’s Untethered Soul Thank you to our sponsors, Amelia Risk (ameliarisk.com) - get a Free audit by signing up through their site - and to The Big Favorite (thebigfavorite.com) - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 In this radiant and deeply personal episode, we sit down with chef, author, entrepreneur, and wellness advocate Jenné Claiborne to explore the journey behind her plant-based empire and the inner work that fuels it. From childhood memories in her nana’s kitchen to launching a blog “just for fun” that transformed her life, Jenné shares how curiosity, creativity, and purpose led her back to vegan food. We talk about the moment she realized she wanted more out of life and the questions she asked herself to get there. She opens up about: Raising her vibration, listening to her downloads and living in abundance; what that really means, and how it shows up daily Her hustle to start her private cheffing business along with her blog and YouTube channel and what kept her sticking to it to become the number 1 vegan chef in NYC How she manages her ambition with the desire to work less & smarter today Her relationship to spirituality and how veganism forces you to go against the grain Building a business as a woman of color, navigating criticism, and staying grounded Motherhood, single parenting, and raising a vegan daughter with intention and joy How it’s become easier for her to enjoy the journey versus thinking about the end goal Follow Jenné: YouTube:    / @sweetpotatosoul   Instagram:   / sweetpotatosoul   Blog: https://sweetpotatosoul.com/ Books’s Jenné likes: Kathy Freston’s Veganist Michael Singer’s Untethered Soul Thank you to our sponsors, Amelia Risk (ameliarisk.com) - get a Free audit by signing up through their site - and to The Big Favorite (thebigfavorite.com) - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15

]]> 4798 From Netflix's Snack vs. Chef to S’noods | Lauryn Bodden on Building Confidence & Community In this episode, we sit down with Lauryn Bodden: athlete, chef, Netflix cooking show champion, and founder of Snoods, the noodle snack brand redefining comfort food. Lauryn’s path is anything but linear: from playing competitive soccer and studying sport management to working across every corner of the food world including private cheffing, editorial, restaurants, and reality TV.We talk about:Her early love of sports and what teamwork taught her about leadershipHer obsession with food: where it started, and how it’s evolvedThe highs and lows of restaurant life, and what she still carries from that chapterThe wild story behind Snack vs. Chef and how she went from judge applicant to contestant, and ultimately, winnerThe birth of Snoods: the aha moment, the product insight, and how she’s channeling her superpowers into building a brandWhat it’s really like to be a CPG founder: favorite parts, hardest parts, and whether it still feeds her passion for foodNavigating a tough business partner breakup and the lessons she’s taking forwardImposter syndrome, identity, and the quiet work of believing in yourselfThis one’s for anyone who’s ever pivoted hard, followed their gut, or built something from scratch. Lauryn brings warmth, honesty, and a whole lot of flavor. Also, get 30% off your next Snoods order with code SAYMORE.Links & Resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eatsnoods Website: https://www.eatsnoods.com/ Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vqhs2C7v1w https://www.laurynbodden.com/about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM6H1seJ8j0 Thank you to our sponsors, Amelia Risk (ameliarisk.com) - get a Free audit by signing up through their site - and to The Big Favorite (thebigfavorite.com) - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 Tue, 04 Nov 2025 19:18:00 -0000 full Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen In this episode, we sit down with Lauryn Bodden: athlete, chef, Netflix cooking show champion, and founder of Snoods, the noodle snack brand redefining comfort food. Lauryn’s path is anything but linear: from playing competitive soccer and studying sport management to working across every corner of the food world including private cheffing, editorial, restaurants, and reality TV.We talk about:Her early love of sports and what teamwork taught her about leadershipHer obsession with food: where it started, and how it’s evolvedThe highs and lows of restaurant life, and what she still carries from that chapterThe wild story behind Snack vs. Chef and how she went from judge applicant to contestant, and ultimately, winnerThe birth of Snoods: the aha moment, the product insight, and how she’s channeling her superpowers into building a brandWhat it’s really like to be a CPG founder: favorite parts, hardest parts, and whether it still feeds her passion for foodNavigating a tough business partner breakup and the lessons she’s taking forwardImposter syndrome, identity, and the quiet work of believing in yourselfThis one’s for anyone who’s ever pivoted hard, followed their gut, or built something from scratch. Lauryn brings warmth, honesty, and a whole lot of flavor. Also, get 30% off your next Snoods order with code SAYMORE.Links & Resources: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eatsnoods Website: https://www.eatsnoods.com/ Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vqhs2C7v1w https://www.laurynbodden.com/about https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM6H1seJ8j0 Thank you to our sponsors, Amelia Risk (ameliarisk.com) - get a Free audit by signing up through their site - and to The Big Favorite (thebigfavorite.com) - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 In this episode, we sit down with Lauryn Bodden: athlete, chef, Netflix cooking show champion, and founder of Snoods, the noodle snack brand redefining comfort food. Lauryn’s path is anything but linear: from playing competitive soccer and studying sport management to working across every corner of the food world including private cheffing, editorial, restaurants, and reality TV.
We talk about:
Her early love of sports and what teamwork taught her about leadership
Her obsession with food: where it started, and how it’s evolved
The highs and lows of restaurant life, and what she still carries from that chapter
The wild story behind Snack vs. Chef and how she went from judge applicant to contestant, and ultimately, winner
The birth of Snoods: the aha moment, the product insight, and how she’s channeling her superpowers into building a brand
What it’s really like to be a CPG founder: favorite parts, hardest parts, and whether it still feeds her passion for food
Navigating a tough business partner breakup and the lessons she’s taking forward
Imposter syndrome, identity, and the quiet work of believing in yourself
This one’s for anyone who’s ever pivoted hard, followed their gut, or built something from scratch. Lauryn brings warmth, honesty, and a whole lot of flavor. Also, get 30% off your next Snoods order with code SAYMORE.

Links & Resources:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eatsnoods

Website: https://www.eatsnoods.com/

Sources:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vqhs2C7v1w

https://www.laurynbodden.com/about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM6H1seJ8j0


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]]> 3374 From Condé Nast to Cannabis | Verena von Pfetten on Culture, Creativity & Copycats In this episode, we sit down with Verena von Pfetten, co-founder of Gossamer, the trailblazing magazine and lifestyle brand for people who also smoke weed. Verena shares the story behind launching a brand in a taboo space, and how moments of joy, stillness, and intuition shaped her creative process. We explore her journey from food media (co-founding The Braiser and writing for Condé Nast Traveler and HuffPost) to reimagining cannabis culture through design, storytelling, and spiritual practice. She opens up about her microdosing regimen, her views on plant medicine, and why she believes weed deserves a more nuanced narrative than the outdated “stoner” stereotype. Verena also reflects on: The moment Gossamer was born and why it felt like a risk worth taking Her spiritual protocols and how meditation fuels creativity The ups and downs of building a brand in a stigmatized category Her thoughts on copycats and what it means to manifest with intention A poetic reflection on Lopez Island, gnomes, and making things quietly and thoughtfully Follow Verena on: Instagram:   / gossamer   Website: https://gossamer.co/ Book recs: Orbital by Samantha Harvey If you are in NYC, check out Pioneer Works and their endless events: https://pioneerworks.org/https://www.sage-sound.com/blogs/the-...https://themalin.co/journal/gossamer/https://www.cntraveler.com/stories/20... Thank you to our sponsors, Amelia Risk, and The Big Favorite! Fri, 17 Oct 2025 02:21:00 -0000 full Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen In this episode, we sit down with Verena von Pfetten, co-founder of Gossamer, the trailblazing magazine and lifestyle brand for people who also smoke weed. Verena shares the story behind launching a brand in a taboo space, and how moments of joy, stillness, and intuition shaped her creative process. We explore her journey from food media (co-founding The Braiser and writing for Condé Nast Traveler and HuffPost) to reimagining cannabis culture through design, storytelling, and spiritual practice. She opens up about her microdosing regimen, her views on plant medicine, and why she believes weed deserves a more nuanced narrative than the outdated “stoner” stereotype. Verena also reflects on: The moment Gossamer was born and why it felt like a risk worth taking Her spiritual protocols and how meditation fuels creativity The ups and downs of building a brand in a stigmatized category Her thoughts on copycats and what it means to manifest with intention A poetic reflection on Lopez Island, gnomes, and making things quietly and thoughtfully Follow Verena on: Instagram:   / gossamer   Website: https://gossamer.co/ Book recs: Orbital by Samantha Harvey If you are in NYC, check out Pioneer Works and their endless events: https://pioneerworks.org/https://www.sage-sound.com/blogs/the-...https://themalin.co/journal/gossamer/https://www.cntraveler.com/stories/20... Thank you to our sponsors, Amelia Risk, and The Big Favorite! In this episode, we sit down with Verena von Pfetten, co-founder of Gossamer, the trailblazing magazine and lifestyle brand for people who also smoke weed. Verena shares the story behind launching a brand in a taboo space, and how moments of joy, stillness, and intuition shaped her creative process. We explore her journey from food media (co-founding The Braiser and writing for Condé Nast Traveler and HuffPost) to reimagining cannabis culture through design, storytelling, and spiritual practice. She opens up about her microdosing regimen, her views on plant medicine, and why she believes weed deserves a more nuanced narrative than the outdated “stoner” stereotype. Verena also reflects on: The moment Gossamer was born and why it felt like a risk worth taking Her spiritual protocols and how meditation fuels creativity The ups and downs of building a brand in a stigmatized category Her thoughts on copycats and what it means to manifest with intention A poetic reflection on Lopez Island, gnomes, and making things quietly and thoughtfully Follow Verena on: Instagram:   / gossamer   Website: https://gossamer.co/ Book recs: Orbital by Samantha Harvey If you are in NYC, check out Pioneer Works and their endless events: https://pioneerworks.org/https://www.sage-sound.com/blogs/the-...https://themalin.co/journal/gossamer/https://www.cntraveler.com/stories/20... Thank you to our sponsors, Amelia Risk, and The Big Favorite!

]]> 4640 Trading Fear for Faith | Vanessa Barboni Hallik on Building Another Tomorrow This week, Isabelle and Eleanor sit down with Vanessa Barboni Hallik, founder of Another Tomorrow, for a candid conversation about leaving a high-powered finance career, navigating personal loss, and building a purpose-driven brand from the ground up. Vanessa shares how introspection, meditation, and a sabbatical led to the quiet birth of a company rooted in ethics and sustainability and why intention matters more than ever. Topics we cover: Quitting finance three times and why it was so hard to walk away Growing up in a “hippie, techy, academic, and artistic” household in the Midwest Her journey from ‘fear to faith’ through her journey as an entrepreneur Losing her mother to suicide and the long arc of healing and reflection The accidental birth of Another Tomorrow during a sabbatical Building a gold-standard brand rooted in ethics, transparency, and sustainability The power of intention and how Vanessa manifests her future Book recommendations: A Constellation of Vital Phenomena Find Another Tomorrow/Vanessa: Website - www.anothertomorrow.co IG - https://www.instagram.com/anothertomo... Thank you to our sponsors, ⁠Amelia Risk⁠ - get a Free audit by signing up through their site - and to ⁠The Big Favorite⁠ - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thebigfavorite⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@theplantiful⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ El’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@the_elturner Tue, 30 Sep 2025 16:50:00 -0000 full Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen This week, Isabelle and Eleanor sit down with Vanessa Barboni Hallik, founder of Another Tomorrow, for a candid conversation about leaving a high-powered finance career, navigating personal loss, and building a purpose-driven brand from the ground up. Vanessa shares how introspection, meditation, and a sabbatical led to the quiet birth of a company rooted in ethics and sustainability and why intention matters more than ever. Topics we cover: Quitting finance three times and why it was so hard to walk away Growing up in a “hippie, techy, academic, and artistic” household in the Midwest Her journey from ‘fear to faith’ through her journey as an entrepreneur Losing her mother to suicide and the long arc of healing and reflection The accidental birth of Another Tomorrow during a sabbatical Building a gold-standard brand rooted in ethics, transparency, and sustainability The power of intention and how Vanessa manifests her future Book recommendations: A Constellation of Vital Phenomena Find Another Tomorrow/Vanessa: Website - www.anothertomorrow.co IG - https://www.instagram.com/anothertomo... Thank you to our sponsors, ⁠Amelia Risk⁠ - get a Free audit by signing up through their site - and to ⁠The Big Favorite⁠ - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thebigfavorite⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@theplantiful⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ El’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@the_elturner This week, Isabelle and Eleanor sit down with Vanessa Barboni Hallik, founder of Another Tomorrow, for a candid conversation about leaving a high-powered finance career, navigating personal loss, and building a purpose-driven brand from the ground up. Vanessa shares how introspection, meditation, and a sabbatical led to the quiet birth of a company rooted in ethics and sustainability and why intention matters more than ever. Topics we cover:

  • Quitting finance three times and why it was so hard to walk away
  • Growing up in a “hippie, techy, academic, and artistic” household in the Midwest
  • Her journey from ‘fear to faith’ through her journey as an entrepreneur
  • Losing her mother to suicide and the long arc of healing and reflection
  • The accidental birth of Another Tomorrow during a sabbatical
  • Building a gold-standard brand rooted in ethics, transparency, and sustainability
  • The power of intention and how Vanessa manifests her future

Book recommendations:

  • A Constellation of Vital Phenomena
  • Find Another Tomorrow/Vanessa:

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]]> 3352 From Waldorf School to Startup | Michael Robinov on Food & Finding Purpose in the Story In this episode of The Say More Podcast, co-hosts Eleanor Turner and Isabelle Steichen sit down with Michael Robinov, co-founder and CEO of Farm to People, a radically local food company reshaping how New Yorkers connect with farmers, chefs, and their own kitchens. We explore: The joyful spark behind Farm to People’s inception—and why creative ideas often emerge from moments of ease What Waldorf education taught him about autonomy, imagination, and holistic thinking—and how it shaped his approach to business and life Growing up in NYC, dropping out of Tisch, and trusting intuition over credentials Why regenerative farming and local food systems aren’t just buzzwords—they’re central to Michael’s purpose What it’s really like to build a business with your father and your partner (spoiler: it’s messy, meaningful, and deeply rewarding) How customer feedback drives innovation—and why listening is Michael’s north star The role travel played in launching FTP, and why it still fuels his creativity Whether an IPO or a national expansion is on the horizon—and what’s next for Farm to People Michael’s story is a reminder that purpose-driven business can be scrappy and wildly impactful. Book/podcast recs: Acquired: Deep dives into iconic companies that broke the mold—like Costco, Nike, and Berkshire Hathaway. Michael Robinov loves how it showcases businesses that were aberrations of their time, yet built on enduring principles. Think Again by Adam Grant A guide to rethinking assumptions, embracing curiosity, and staying mentally flexible—especially relevant for leaders building adaptive, values-driven companies. No Rules Rules by Reed Hastings & Erin Meyer A behind-the-scenes look at Netflix’s radical culture of freedom and responsibility. A masterclass in rejecting convention and scaling through trust and innovation. No-Excuses Management by T.J. Rodgers A lesser-known but powerful book on building high-performance teams through clear targets, bonus structures, and metric-driven accountability. Rodgers’ approach blends hard business fundamentals with entrepreneurial grit. Connect with Michael on Instagram Follow FtP on Instagram and online Thank you to our sponsors, Amelia Risk - get a Free audit by signing up through their site - and to The Big Favorite - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠⁠⁠⁠@thebigfavorite⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@theplantiful⁠⁠⁠⁠ El’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@the_elturner Tue, 16 Sep 2025 10:00:00 -0000 full Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen In this episode of The Say More Podcast, co-hosts Eleanor Turner and Isabelle Steichen sit down with Michael Robinov, co-founder and CEO of Farm to People, a radically local food company reshaping how New Yorkers connect with farmers, chefs, and their own kitchens. We explore: The joyful spark behind Farm to People’s inception—and why creative ideas often emerge from moments of ease What Waldorf education taught him about autonomy, imagination, and holistic thinking—and how it shaped his approach to business and life Growing up in NYC, dropping out of Tisch, and trusting intuition over credentials Why regenerative farming and local food systems aren’t just buzzwords—they’re central to Michael’s purpose What it’s really like to build a business with your father and your partner (spoiler: it’s messy, meaningful, and deeply rewarding) How customer feedback drives innovation—and why listening is Michael’s north star The role travel played in launching FTP, and why it still fuels his creativity Whether an IPO or a national expansion is on the horizon—and what’s next for Farm to People Michael’s story is a reminder that purpose-driven business can be scrappy and wildly impactful. Book/podcast recs: Acquired: Deep dives into iconic companies that broke the mold—like Costco, Nike, and Berkshire Hathaway. Michael Robinov loves how it showcases businesses that were aberrations of their time, yet built on enduring principles. Think Again by Adam Grant A guide to rethinking assumptions, embracing curiosity, and staying mentally flexible—especially relevant for leaders building adaptive, values-driven companies. No Rules Rules by Reed Hastings & Erin Meyer A behind-the-scenes look at Netflix’s radical culture of freedom and responsibility. A masterclass in rejecting convention and scaling through trust and innovation. No-Excuses Management by T.J. Rodgers A lesser-known but powerful book on building high-performance teams through clear targets, bonus structures, and metric-driven accountability. Rodgers’ approach blends hard business fundamentals with entrepreneurial grit. Connect with Michael on Instagram Follow FtP on Instagram and online Thank you to our sponsors, Amelia Risk - get a Free audit by signing up through their site - and to The Big Favorite - Take 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠⁠⁠⁠@thebigfavorite⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@theplantiful⁠⁠⁠⁠ El’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@the_elturner In this episode of The Say More Podcast, co-hosts Eleanor Turner and Isabelle Steichen sit down with Michael Robinov, co-founder and CEO of Farm to People, a radically local food company reshaping how New Yorkers connect with farmers, chefs, and their own kitchens.

We explore:

  • The joyful spark behind Farm to People’s inception—and why creative ideas often emerge from moments of ease

  • What Waldorf education taught him about autonomy, imagination, and holistic thinking—and how it shaped his approach to business and life

  • Growing up in NYC, dropping out of Tisch, and trusting intuition over credentials

  • Why regenerative farming and local food systems aren’t just buzzwords—they’re central to Michael’s purpose

  • What it’s really like to build a business with your father and your partner (spoiler: it’s messy, meaningful, and deeply rewarding)

  • How customer feedback drives innovation—and why listening is Michael’s north star

  • The role travel played in launching FTP, and why it still fuels his creativity

  • Whether an IPO or a national expansion is on the horizon—and what’s next for Farm to People

Michael’s story is a reminder that purpose-driven business can be scrappy and wildly impactful.

Book/podcast recs:

  • Acquired: Deep dives into iconic companies that broke the mold—like Costco, Nike, and Berkshire Hathaway. Michael Robinov loves how it showcases businesses that were aberrations of their time, yet built on enduring principles.

  • Think Again by Adam Grant A guide to rethinking assumptions, embracing curiosity, and staying mentally flexible—especially relevant for leaders building adaptive, values-driven companies.

  • No Rules Rules by Reed Hastings & Erin Meyer A behind-the-scenes look at Netflix’s radical culture of freedom and responsibility. A masterclass in rejecting convention and scaling through trust and innovation.

  • No-Excuses Management by T.J. Rodgers A lesser-known but powerful book on building high-performance teams through clear targets, bonus structures, and metric-driven accountability. Rodgers’ approach blends hard business fundamentals with entrepreneurial grit.

Connect with Michael on Instagram

Follow FtP on Instagram and online

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]]> 3666 How to Be an Owner, Not a Renter | Babba Rivera on Authenticity, Heritage & Bold Moves In this episode of Say More, Eleanor and Isabelle sit down with Babba Rivera—founder of the award-winning clean hair care brand Ceremonia, former Uber exec, and a trailblazing Latina entrepreneur reshaping the beauty industry. Babba shares her remarkable journey from growing up in Sweden’s immigrant neighborhoods to launching a purpose-driven brand rooted in heritage, wellness, and authenticity. This conversation is a masterclass in manifesting bold moves, dismantling limiting beliefs, and building businesses that reflect your highest values. What we covered in this episode: Growing up in Sweden with Chilean immigrant parents How Babba navigated language barriers, cultural identity, and early ambition Her leap from Uber Sweden to NYC—and the mindset behind big life decisions The power of authenticity and how passion creates unexpected opportunities Why generosity and helping others are central to her leadership philosophy The insight that sparked Ceremonia: “Hair care” vs. styling products Balancing motherhood and entrepreneurship with 4 kids What success feels like now—and how it aligns with her values Links & Resources Ceremonia on IG and online – Babba’s clean hair care brand https://www.instagram.com/myceremonia/?hl=en Follow Babba on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/babba/?hl=en TV show rec: Common Side Effects The Tao of Founders by Guillaume Racine Thank you to our Sponsors: Amelia Risk - ⁠⁠https://ameliarisk.com/⁠⁠ The Big Favorite - ⁠⁠thebigfavorite.com⁠⁠ get 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠⁠⁠@thebigfavorite⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠@theplantiful⁠⁠⁠ El’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠@the_elturner Fri, 05 Sep 2025 01:37:00 -0000 full Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen In this episode of Say More, Eleanor and Isabelle sit down with Babba Rivera—founder of the award-winning clean hair care brand Ceremonia, former Uber exec, and a trailblazing Latina entrepreneur reshaping the beauty industry. Babba shares her remarkable journey from growing up in Sweden’s immigrant neighborhoods to launching a purpose-driven brand rooted in heritage, wellness, and authenticity. This conversation is a masterclass in manifesting bold moves, dismantling limiting beliefs, and building businesses that reflect your highest values. What we covered in this episode: Growing up in Sweden with Chilean immigrant parents How Babba navigated language barriers, cultural identity, and early ambition Her leap from Uber Sweden to NYC—and the mindset behind big life decisions The power of authenticity and how passion creates unexpected opportunities Why generosity and helping others are central to her leadership philosophy The insight that sparked Ceremonia: “Hair care” vs. styling products Balancing motherhood and entrepreneurship with 4 kids What success feels like now—and how it aligns with her values Links & Resources Ceremonia on IG and online – Babba’s clean hair care brand https://www.instagram.com/myceremonia/?hl=en Follow Babba on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/babba/?hl=en TV show rec: Common Side Effects The Tao of Founders by Guillaume Racine Thank you to our Sponsors: Amelia Risk - ⁠⁠https://ameliarisk.com/⁠⁠ The Big Favorite - ⁠⁠thebigfavorite.com⁠⁠ get 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠⁠⁠@thebigfavorite⁠⁠⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠@theplantiful⁠⁠⁠ El’s IG: ⁠⁠⁠@the_elturner In this episode of Say More, Eleanor and Isabelle sit down with Babba Rivera—founder of the award-winning clean hair care brand Ceremonia, former Uber exec, and a trailblazing Latina entrepreneur reshaping the beauty industry. Babba shares her remarkable journey from growing up in Sweden’s immigrant neighborhoods to launching a purpose-driven brand rooted in heritage, wellness, and authenticity. This conversation is a masterclass in manifesting bold moves, dismantling limiting beliefs, and building businesses that reflect your highest values. What we covered in this episode: Growing up in Sweden with Chilean immigrant parents How Babba navigated language barriers, cultural identity, and early ambition Her leap from Uber Sweden to NYC—and the mindset behind big life decisions The power of authenticity and how passion creates unexpected opportunities Why generosity and helping others are central to her leadership philosophy The insight that sparked Ceremonia: “Hair care” vs. styling products Balancing motherhood and entrepreneurship with 4 kids What success feels like now—and how it aligns with her values Links & Resources Ceremonia on IG and online – Babba’s clean hair care brand https://www.instagram.com/myceremonia/?hl=en Follow Babba on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/babba/?hl=en TV show rec: Common Side Effects The Tao of Founders by Guillaume Racine

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]]> 2824 Lorna Davis on Finding Purpose Beyond "More, More, More" In this transformative episode, Lorna Davis—former CEO of Danone North America and trailblazer of the B Corp movement—invites us into a conversation about what it really means to lead, live, and grow through the lens of radical interdependence. From her upbringing in South Africa to her global career across seven countries and five continents, Lorna shares why she believes that heroism is outdated—and that meaningful change depends on our willingness to rely on one another. This isn’t just about leadership. It’s about building lives, organizations, and societies that thrive on trust, empathy, and purpose. TED Talk, A Guide to Collaborative Leadership: https://www.ted.com/speakers/lorna_davis Books: It's That Simple, Mavis Karn; Raising Hare, Chloe Dalton; Memorial Day, Geraldine Brooks; Consolations, David White; Eckhart Tolle’s work Please support the Rhino's at Care For Wild: https://careforwild.co.za/ Thank you to our Sponsors:Amelia Risk - ⁠https://ameliarisk.com/⁠ The Big Favorite - ⁠thebigfavorite.com⁠ get 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠⁠@thebigfavorite⁠⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠⁠@theplantiful⁠⁠ El’s IG: ⁠⁠@the_elturner Tue, 19 Aug 2025 18:12:00 -0000 full Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen In this transformative episode, Lorna Davis—former CEO of Danone North America and trailblazer of the B Corp movement—invites us into a conversation about what it really means to lead, live, and grow through the lens of radical interdependence. From her upbringing in South Africa to her global career across seven countries and five continents, Lorna shares why she believes that heroism is outdated—and that meaningful change depends on our willingness to rely on one another. This isn’t just about leadership. It’s about building lives, organizations, and societies that thrive on trust, empathy, and purpose. TED Talk, A Guide to Collaborative Leadership: https://www.ted.com/speakers/lorna_davis Books: It's That Simple, Mavis Karn; Raising Hare, Chloe Dalton; Memorial Day, Geraldine Brooks; Consolations, David White; Eckhart Tolle’s work Please support the Rhino's at Care For Wild: https://careforwild.co.za/ Thank you to our Sponsors:Amelia Risk - ⁠https://ameliarisk.com/⁠ The Big Favorite - ⁠thebigfavorite.com⁠ get 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠⁠@thebigfavorite⁠⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠⁠@theplantiful⁠⁠ El’s IG: ⁠⁠@the_elturner In this transformative episode, Lorna Davis—former CEO of Danone North America and trailblazer of the B Corp movement—invites us into a conversation about what it really means to lead, live, and grow through the lens of radical interdependence. From her upbringing in South Africa to her global career across seven countries and five continents, Lorna shares why she believes that heroism is outdated—and that meaningful change depends on our willingness to rely on one another. This isn’t just about leadership. It’s about building lives, organizations, and societies that thrive on trust, empathy, and purpose. TED Talk, A Guide to Collaborative Leadership: https://www.ted.com/speakers/lorna_davis Books: It's That Simple, Mavis Karn; Raising Hare, Chloe Dalton; Memorial Day, Geraldine Brooks; Consolations, David White; Eckhart Tolle’s work Please support the Rhino's at Care For Wild: https://careforwild.co.za/


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]]> 3907 Jeni Britton on Creativity, Ownership, and Fiber In this conversation, Eleanor and Isabelle sit down with Jeni Britton—entrepreneur, artist, and founder of the iconic Jeni’s Splendid Ice Cream and her new brand, Floura, which is the most diverse fiber bar on the market. Jeni shares her path from struggling art student to industry visionary, diving deep into the emotional and creative roots of her journey. From her early days running “Scream,” to building Jeni's into a national brand, to stepping away and starting over, this episode explores reinvention, curiosity, and the power of slowing down, synchronicity, and building businesses that reflect your soul. In This Episode, They Cover: Jeni’s unconventional childhood and how it shaped her boldness Why she dropped out of college and knew she’d be her own boss Creative burnout and knowing when to walk away Lessons learned through failure—not success Launching Floura and why she’s obsessed with fiber and food systems How motherhood fits into the founder experience Why she says Lord of the Rings is the best business book she's ever read And why “creativity is finding efficiencies”—a mindset every founder needs Resources Mentioned: Floura: https://www.floura.com/ Jeni’s substack: https://substack.com/@jenibritton Books Jeni likes: The Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman,The Apothecary's Wife by  Karen Bloom Gevirtz and The Mayflower by Nathaniel Philbrick Instagram: @jenibrittonbauer Thank you to our Sponsors:Amelia Risk - https://ameliarisk.com/ The Big Favorite - thebigfavorite.com get 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠@thebigfavorite⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠@theplantiful⁠ El’s IG: ⁠@the_elturner Thu, 31 Jul 2025 08:00:00 -0000 full Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen In this conversation, Eleanor and Isabelle sit down with Jeni Britton—entrepreneur, artist, and founder of the iconic Jeni’s Splendid Ice Cream and her new brand, Floura, which is the most diverse fiber bar on the market. Jeni shares her path from struggling art student to industry visionary, diving deep into the emotional and creative roots of her journey. From her early days running “Scream,” to building Jeni's into a national brand, to stepping away and starting over, this episode explores reinvention, curiosity, and the power of slowing down, synchronicity, and building businesses that reflect your soul. In This Episode, They Cover: Jeni’s unconventional childhood and how it shaped her boldness Why she dropped out of college and knew she’d be her own boss Creative burnout and knowing when to walk away Lessons learned through failure—not success Launching Floura and why she’s obsessed with fiber and food systems How motherhood fits into the founder experience Why she says Lord of the Rings is the best business book she's ever read And why “creativity is finding efficiencies”—a mindset every founder needs Resources Mentioned: Floura: https://www.floura.com/ Jeni’s substack: https://substack.com/@jenibritton Books Jeni likes: The Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman,The Apothecary's Wife by  Karen Bloom Gevirtz and The Mayflower by Nathaniel Philbrick Instagram: @jenibrittonbauer Thank you to our Sponsors:Amelia Risk - https://ameliarisk.com/ The Big Favorite - thebigfavorite.com get 15% off your first order with code: SAYMORE15 The Big Favorite IG ⁠@thebigfavorite⁠ Follow us on IG ⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠ / Follow us on Tiktok ⁠@thesaymorepodcast⁠ Isabelle’s IG: ⁠@theplantiful⁠ El’s IG: ⁠@the_elturner In this conversation, Eleanor and Isabelle sit down with Jeni Britton—entrepreneur, artist, and founder of the iconic Jeni’s Splendid Ice Cream and her new brand, Floura, which is the most diverse fiber bar on the market. Jeni shares her path from struggling art student to industry visionary, diving deep into the emotional and creative roots of her journey. From her early days running “Scream,” to building Jeni's into a national brand, to stepping away and starting over, this episode explores reinvention, curiosity, and the power of slowing down, synchronicity, and building businesses that reflect your soul.

In This Episode, They Cover:

  • Jeni’s unconventional childhood and how it shaped her boldness

  • Why she dropped out of college and knew she’d be her own boss

  • Creative burnout and knowing when to walk away

  • Lessons learned through failure—not success

  • Launching Floura and why she’s obsessed with fiber and food systems

  • How motherhood fits into the founder experience

  • Why she says Lord of the Rings is the best business book she's ever read

  • And why “creativity is finding efficiencies”—a mindset every founder needs

Resources Mentioned:

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Isabelle’s IG: ⁠@theplantiful⁠

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]]> 4275 The Power of Timing, Luck, & Purpose with Zoe Paknad Join us for an enlightening conversation with Zoe Paknad, the visionary founder of Goldune, as we delve into the world of sustainable retail. Discover Zoe's inspiring journey in creating a company that makes sustainability approachable and accessible. She shares the triumphs and challenges of her mission to transform consumer habits and offers insights into the future of eco-friendly products, and reveals what she’s up to today with First Rodeo and more! Zoe’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zoe-paknad Zoe’s substack First Rodeo: https://1strodeo.substack.com/ Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi ! Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite! The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you.  The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/ The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavorite Follow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast Isabelle’s IG: @theplantiful El’s IG: @the_elturner Thu, 20 Feb 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen Join us for an enlightening conversation with Zoe Paknad, the visionary founder of Goldune, as we delve into the world of sustainable retail. Discover Zoe's inspiring journey in creating a company that makes sustainability approachable and accessible. She shares the triumphs and challenges of her mission to transform consumer habits and offers insights into the future of eco-friendly products, and reveals what she’s up to today with First Rodeo and more! Zoe’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zoe-paknad Zoe’s substack First Rodeo: https://1strodeo.substack.com/ Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi ! Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite! The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you.  The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/ The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavorite Follow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast Isabelle’s IG: @theplantiful El’s IG: @the_elturner Join us for an enlightening conversation with Zoe Paknad, the visionary founder of Goldune, as we delve into the world of sustainable retail. Discover Zoe's inspiring journey in creating a company that makes sustainability approachable and accessible. She shares the triumphs and challenges of her mission to transform consumer habits and offers insights into the future of eco-friendly products, and reveals what she’s up to today with First Rodeo and more!

Zoe’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zoe-paknad

Zoe’s substack First Rodeo: https://1strodeo.substack.com/


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]]> 4359 Altruism in Action with Eva Goicochea of Maude Welcome to episode 5 of the Say More Podcast. Today, we have a very special guest with us, Eva Goicochea. Eva is the brilliant mind behind Maude, a modern sexual wellness company that’s redefining intimacy and self-care. With a background in healthcare and brand strategy, Eva has been a trailblazer in creating products that prioritize simplicity, quality, and inclusivity. In this episode, we dive deep into Eva’s background, and what led her to ultimately start Maude. Maude website: https://getmaude.com/ Maude IG: https://www.instagram.com/getmaude/ Eva IG: https://www.instagram.com/evagoicochea/ Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi ! Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite! The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you.  The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/ The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavorite Follow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast Isabelle’s IG: @theplantiful El’s IG: @the_elturner Thu, 30 Jan 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen Welcome to episode 5 of the Say More Podcast. Today, we have a very special guest with us, Eva Goicochea. Eva is the brilliant mind behind Maude, a modern sexual wellness company that’s redefining intimacy and self-care. With a background in healthcare and brand strategy, Eva has been a trailblazer in creating products that prioritize simplicity, quality, and inclusivity. In this episode, we dive deep into Eva’s background, and what led her to ultimately start Maude. Maude website: https://getmaude.com/ Maude IG: https://www.instagram.com/getmaude/ Eva IG: https://www.instagram.com/evagoicochea/ Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi ! Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite! The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you.  The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/ The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavorite Follow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast Isabelle’s IG: @theplantiful El’s IG: @the_elturner Welcome to episode 5 of the Say More Podcast. Today, we have a very special guest with us, Eva Goicochea. Eva is the brilliant mind behind Maude, a modern sexual wellness company that’s redefining intimacy and self-care. With a background in healthcare and brand strategy, Eva has been a trailblazer in creating products that prioritize simplicity, quality, and inclusivity. In this episode, we dive deep into Eva’s background, and what led her to ultimately start Maude.

Maude website: https://getmaude.com/

Maude IG: https://www.instagram.com/getmaude/

Eva IG: https://www.instagram.com/evagoicochea/


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]]> 3997 From Party in the USA to Dry January with David Fudge of Aplos Today, we have the pleasure of hosting David Fudge, a visionary entrepreneur and co-founder of Aplós, the trailblazing non-alcoholic spirit brand that's redefining social drinking. With a background as one of the first hires at Bonobos, David brings a wealth of experience in brand building and innovation to the table. At Aplós, he's on a mission to create sophisticated, mood-boosting beverages that offer the same social experience without the alcohol. Join us as we dive into David's journey, the challenges of launching a disruptive brand, and the lessons he's learned along the way. Aplos Website: https://www.aplos.world/ Aplos IG: https://www.instagram.com/aplos.world/ David IG:  https://www.instagram.com/davidfudge/ Famous Party in the USA music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ezfk7s1NyY Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi ! Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite! The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you.  The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/ The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavorite Follow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast Isabelle’s IG: @theplantiful El’s IG: @the_elturner Thu, 16 Jan 2025 08:00:00 -0000 full Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen Today, we have the pleasure of hosting David Fudge, a visionary entrepreneur and co-founder of Aplós, the trailblazing non-alcoholic spirit brand that's redefining social drinking. With a background as one of the first hires at Bonobos, David brings a wealth of experience in brand building and innovation to the table. At Aplós, he's on a mission to create sophisticated, mood-boosting beverages that offer the same social experience without the alcohol. Join us as we dive into David's journey, the challenges of launching a disruptive brand, and the lessons he's learned along the way. Aplos Website: https://www.aplos.world/ Aplos IG: https://www.instagram.com/aplos.world/ David IG:  https://www.instagram.com/davidfudge/ Famous Party in the USA music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ezfk7s1NyY Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi ! Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite! The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you.  The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/ The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavorite Follow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast Isabelle’s IG: @theplantiful El’s IG: @the_elturner Today, we have the pleasure of hosting David Fudge, a visionary entrepreneur and co-founder of Aplós, the trailblazing non-alcoholic spirit brand that's redefining social drinking. With a background as one of the first hires at Bonobos, David brings a wealth of experience in brand building and innovation to the table. At Aplós, he's on a mission to create sophisticated, mood-boosting beverages that offer the same social experience without the alcohol. Join us as we dive into David's journey, the challenges of launching a disruptive brand, and the lessons he's learned along the way.

Aplos Website: https://www.aplos.world/

Aplos IG: https://www.instagram.com/aplos.world/

David IG:  https://www.instagram.com/davidfudge/

Famous Party in the USA music video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ezfk7s1NyY


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  • Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee


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]]> 4209 What Excellence Feels Like with Erica and Ingrid of The New Savant Join us for an insightful conversation with Erica Anderson and Ingrid Nilsen, the co-founders of The New Savant. Erica brings her extensive experience from working as an early employee and changemaker at Twitter and Google, while Ingrid draws on her successful career as an OG YouTube creator. Together, they create unique, artisanal fragrances that bring comfort and joy to everyday moments. Learn about their inspiration, the creative process behind their one-of-a-kind scents, and their vision for the future. The New Savant website: https://thenewsavant.com/ The New Savant IG: https://www.instagram.com/thenewsavant Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi ! Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite! The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you.  The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/ The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavorite Follow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast Isabelle’s IG: @theplantiful El’s IG: @the_elturner Thu, 02 Jan 2025 09:00:00 -0000 full Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen Join us for an insightful conversation with Erica Anderson and Ingrid Nilsen, the co-founders of The New Savant. Erica brings her extensive experience from working as an early employee and changemaker at Twitter and Google, while Ingrid draws on her successful career as an OG YouTube creator. Together, they create unique, artisanal fragrances that bring comfort and joy to everyday moments. Learn about their inspiration, the creative process behind their one-of-a-kind scents, and their vision for the future. The New Savant website: https://thenewsavant.com/ The New Savant IG: https://www.instagram.com/thenewsavant Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi ! Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite! The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you.  The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/ The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavorite Follow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast Isabelle’s IG: @theplantiful El’s IG: @the_elturner Join us for an insightful conversation with Erica Anderson and Ingrid Nilsen, the co-founders of The New Savant. Erica brings her extensive experience from working as an early employee and changemaker at Twitter and Google, while Ingrid draws on her successful career as an OG YouTube creator. Together, they create unique, artisanal fragrances that bring comfort and joy to everyday moments. Learn about their inspiration, the creative process behind their one-of-a-kind scents, and their vision for the future.

The New Savant website: https://thenewsavant.com/

The New Savant IG: https://www.instagram.com/thenewsavant


Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi !

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  • 3% cashback and 5.3% APY.
  • Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee


Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite!

The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you. 


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]]> 3923 The Power of the Shower with Ryan Babenzien of Jolie Skin Co Today we welcome Ryan Babenzien on the show. He’s a visionary entrepreneur who has revolutionized not one, but two industries. First, he took the footwear world by storm with Greats, the first digitally native sneaker brand, which he successfully sold to Steve Madden. Now, he’s making waves in the beauty and wellness sector with Jolie Skin, a brand that’s redefining how we think about water purity and its impact on our skin and hair. Ryan’s journey from managing clients at ICM Partners to founding and scaling two groundbreaking companies is nothing short of remarkable. In this episode, we’ll dive into his entrepreneurial journey, the challenges he’s faced, and who Ryan, the human, is behind all the successes. Jolie website: https://jolieskinco.com/ Jolie IG account: https://www.instagram.com/jolieskinco/ Ryan’s IG account: https://www.instagram.com/ryanbbabenzien Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi! Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite! The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you. The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/ The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavorite Follow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast Isabelle’s IG: @theplantiful El’s IG: @the_elturner Thu, 19 Dec 2024 09:00:00 -0000 full Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen Today we welcome Ryan Babenzien on the show. He’s a visionary entrepreneur who has revolutionized not one, but two industries. First, he took the footwear world by storm with Greats, the first digitally native sneaker brand, which he successfully sold to Steve Madden. Now, he’s making waves in the beauty and wellness sector with Jolie Skin, a brand that’s redefining how we think about water purity and its impact on our skin and hair. Ryan’s journey from managing clients at ICM Partners to founding and scaling two groundbreaking companies is nothing short of remarkable. In this episode, we’ll dive into his entrepreneurial journey, the challenges he’s faced, and who Ryan, the human, is behind all the successes. Jolie website: https://jolieskinco.com/ Jolie IG account: https://www.instagram.com/jolieskinco/ Ryan’s IG account: https://www.instagram.com/ryanbbabenzien Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi! Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite! The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you. The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/ The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavorite Follow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast Isabelle’s IG: @theplantiful El’s IG: @the_elturner Today we welcome Ryan Babenzien on the show. He’s a visionary entrepreneur who has revolutionized not one, but two industries. First, he took the footwear world by storm with Greats, the first digitally native sneaker brand, which he successfully sold to Steve Madden. Now, he’s making waves in the beauty and wellness sector with Jolie Skin, a brand that’s redefining how we think about water purity and its impact on our skin and hair. Ryan’s journey from managing clients at ICM Partners to founding and scaling two groundbreaking companies is nothing short of remarkable. In this episode, we’ll dive into his entrepreneurial journey, the challenges he’s faced, and who Ryan, the human, is behind all the successes.

Jolie website: https://jolieskinco.com/

Jolie IG account: https://www.instagram.com/jolieskinco/

Ryan’s IG account: https://www.instagram.com/ryanbbabenzien


Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi!

Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns:

  • Daily limits up to $3M a day
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  • Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee


Thank you also to our sponsor, The Big Favorite!

The Big Favorite provides simple, versatile, and plastic-free pima cotton base layers that empower you to prioritize you.


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El’s IG: @the_elturner

]]> 3850 The Why Behind "Say More" with Isabelle and Eleanor Welcome to the Say More podcast! In our first episode, we dive into our personal backgrounds: El’s journey from fashion to co-founding Argent and launching The Big Favorite in 2020, and Isabelle’s path from tech to food, culminating in the creation of Lupii in 2019. This episode is a candid exploration of what drives us, the challenges we’ve faced, and how we’ve overcome them. We also discuss the inspiration behind starting the Say More Podcast, focusing on the “why” behind entrepreneurial success. Join us for an exciting first season with inspiring guests who embrace vulnerability and honesty. The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/ The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavorite Follow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast Isabelle’s IG: @theplantiful El’s IG: @the_elturner Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi ! Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Thu, 12 Dec 2024 17:02:48 -0000 full Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen Welcome to the Say More podcast! In our first episode, we dive into our personal backgrounds: El’s journey from fashion to co-founding Argent and launching The Big Favorite in 2020, and Isabelle’s path from tech to food, culminating in the creation of Lupii in 2019. This episode is a candid exploration of what drives us, the challenges we’ve faced, and how we’ve overcome them. We also discuss the inspiration behind starting the Say More Podcast, focusing on the “why” behind entrepreneurial success. Join us for an exciting first season with inspiring guests who embrace vulnerability and honesty. The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/ The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavorite Follow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast Isabelle’s IG: @theplantiful El’s IG: @the_elturner Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi ! Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns: Daily limits up to $3M a day Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing. Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend. 3% cashback and 5.3% APY. Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee Welcome to the Say More podcast! In our first episode, we dive into our personal backgrounds: El’s journey from fashion to co-founding Argent and launching The Big Favorite in 2020, and Isabelle’s path from tech to food, culminating in the creation of Lupii in 2019. This episode is a candid exploration of what drives us, the challenges we’ve faced, and how we’ve overcome them. We also discuss the inspiration behind starting the Say More Podcast, focusing on the “why” behind entrepreneurial success. Join us for an exciting first season with inspiring guests who embrace vulnerability and honesty.


The Big Favorite website: https://thebigfavorite.com/

The Big Favorite IG: @thebigfavorite

Follow us on IG @thesaymorepodcast / Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast

Isabelle’s IG: @theplantiful

El’s IG: @the_elturner


Thank you to our sponsor dash.fi !

Dash.Fi provides businesses with a card product that allows you to scale your advertising campaigns:

  • Daily limits up to $3M a day
  • Flawless card authorisation due to our Mastercard backing.
  • Up to 3% cashback on all of your digital advertising spend.
  • 3% cashback and 5.3% APY.
  • Net 60 card to extend payment terms at 1% fee
]]> 3368 Introducing Say More Say More is a podcast that delves into the 'why' behind successful entrepreneurs and creators. We believe true success stems from aligning personal passion, skills, and goals with your business, not just tactical execution. In interviews, we go beyond just building a business to explore the hearts and minds of founders, builders, and creators to prove our hypothesis and establish the throughlines of success and longevity. Follow us on Instagram @thesaymorepodcast Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast Thu, 05 Dec 2024 05:36:00 -0000 trailer Eleanor Turner & Isabelle Steichen Say More is a podcast that delves into the 'why' behind successful entrepreneurs and creators. We believe true success stems from aligning personal passion, skills, and goals with your business, not just tactical execution. In interviews, we go beyond just building a business to explore the hearts and minds of founders, builders, and creators to prove our hypothesis and establish the throughlines of success and longevity. Follow us on Instagram @thesaymorepodcast Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast Say More is a podcast that delves into the 'why' behind successful entrepreneurs and creators. We believe true success stems from aligning personal passion, skills, and goals with your business, not just tactical execution. In interviews, we go beyond just building a business to explore the hearts and minds of founders, builders, and creators to prove our hypothesis and establish the throughlines of success and longevity.

Follow us on Instagram @thesaymorepodcast

Follow us on Tiktok @thesaymorepodcast

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