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    <description>Join Blake Chastain, author of Exvangelical &amp; Beyond, as he interviews authors about their work.</description>
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      <description>This week I'm joined by Katherine Stewart, journalist and author of Money, Lies, and God: Inside the Movement to Destroy American Democracy. Her book was published in February 2025 and offers incredible insights into the various networks of influence and power that laid the groundwork for a second Trump victory. We discuss how those same networks are still at work in the US today and try to connect it to more recent developments, including the Epstein Files. Katherine had a brief window of availability, so this interview is a bit shorter.

Buy Money, Lies, and God here at my bookshop.org page: ⁠https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9781635578546⁠

Laura K. Field's book, mentioned by Katherine Stewart is called Furious Minds: The Making of the MAGA New Right, and can be bought here: ⁠https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9780691255262⁠

See books from other authors on The Good Books: ⁠https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9781635578546⁠

And check out books from other authors who have appeared on my other shows: ⁠https://bookshop.org/shop/brchastain ⁠

Buy my book: ⁠https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9780593717073⁠
 
If you want to keep up to date with my work, please be sure to subscribe on ⁠YouTube⁠ and your favorite podcast app, and head over to blakechastain.com to see more of what I’m up to.

(This episode was co-published on the Exvangelical feed.)

00:00 Teaser: The Power of Fear and Control
01:11 Guest Introduction: Katherine Stewart
02:09 The Five Groups in Anti-Democratic Movements
02:53 The Role of Funders and Foot Soldiers
05:27 Sergeants, Power Players, and Thinkers
06:46 Changes Since Trump's Election
08:35 Mindsets and Dispositions in Christian Nationalism
11:12 The Persecution Complex and Authoritarian Leadership
13:18 The Role of Elites and Information Bubbles
28:41 Recent Developments and the Epstein Files
31:45 Conclusion: Forward-Looking Strategies for Democracy
36:08 Outro and Call to Action</description>
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      <itunes:summary>This week I'm joined by Katherine Stewart, journalist and author of Money, Lies, and God: Inside the Movement to Destroy American Democracy. Her book was published in February 2025 and offers incredible insights into the various networks of influence and power that laid the groundwork for a second Trump victory. We discuss how those same networks are still at work in the US today and try to connect it to more recent developments, including the Epstein Files. Katherine had a brief window of availability, so this interview is a bit shorter.

Buy Money, Lies, and God here at my bookshop.org page: ⁠https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9781635578546⁠

Laura K. Field's book, mentioned by Katherine Stewart is called Furious Minds: The Making of the MAGA New Right, and can be bought here: ⁠https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9780691255262⁠

See books from other authors on The Good Books: ⁠https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9781635578546⁠

And check out books from other authors who have appeared on my other shows: ⁠https://bookshop.org/shop/brchastain ⁠

Buy my book: ⁠https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9780593717073⁠
 
If you want to keep up to date with my work, please be sure to subscribe on ⁠YouTube⁠ and your favorite podcast app, and head over to blakechastain.com to see more of what I’m up to.

(This episode was co-published on the Exvangelical feed.)

00:00 Teaser: The Power of Fear and Control
01:11 Guest Introduction: Katherine Stewart
02:09 The Five Groups in Anti-Democratic Movements
02:53 The Role of Funders and Foot Soldiers
05:27 Sergeants, Power Players, and Thinkers
06:46 Changes Since Trump's Election
08:35 Mindsets and Dispositions in Christian Nationalism
11:12 The Persecution Complex and Authoritarian Leadership
13:18 The Role of Elites and Information Bubbles
28:41 Recent Developments and the Epstein Files
31:45 Conclusion: Forward-Looking Strategies for Democracy
36:08 Outro and Call to Action</itunes:summary>
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Buy Money, Lies, and God here at my bookshop.org page: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/brchastain%20">⁠https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9781635578546⁠</a>

Laura K. Field's book, mentioned by Katherine Stewart is called Furious Minds: The Making of the MAGA New Right, and can be bought here: <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9780691255262">⁠https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9780691255262⁠</a>

See books from other authors on The Good Books: <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9781635578546">⁠https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9781635578546⁠</a>

And check out books from other authors who have appeared on my other shows: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/brchastain%20">⁠https://bookshop.org/shop/brchastain ⁠</a>

Buy my book: <a href="https://bookshop.org/shop/brchastain%20">⁠https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9780593717073⁠</a>
 
If you want to keep up to date with my work, please be sure to subscribe on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@brchastain_">⁠YouTube⁠</a> and your favorite podcast app, and head over to blakechastain.com to see more of what I’m up to.</p>
<p>(This episode was co-published on the Exvangelical feed.)

00:00 Teaser: The Power of Fear and Control
01:11 Guest Introduction: Katherine Stewart
02:09 The Five Groups in Anti-Democratic Movements
02:53 The Role of Funders and Foot Soldiers
05:27 Sergeants, Power Players, and Thinkers
06:46 Changes Since Trump's Election
08:35 Mindsets and Dispositions in Christian Nationalism
11:12 The Persecution Complex and Authoritarian Leadership
13:18 The Role of Elites and Information Bubbles
28:41 Recent Developments and the Epstein Files
31:45 Conclusion: Forward-Looking Strategies for Democracy
36:08 Outro and Call to Action</p>]]>
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      <title>After Purity with Sara Moslener</title>
      <description>In the first interview of 2026, I talk to Sara Moslener about her latest book, After Purity: Race, Sex, and Religion in White Christian America. (Buy the book from bookshop.org here &amp; support the show: https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9780807014998) 

Learn more about Sara's work at https://saramoslener.com/

Support this channel at https://www.blakechastain.com; 25% of net proceeds from direct support are donated.

Watch the episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Mnzmm_WI8V4

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome
01:00 Sarah's Religious Upbringing
04:53 The Influence of Pro-Life Movement
07:16 College and Theater: A Path to Self-Discovery
16:25 Pursuing Academia and Feminist Theology
21:10 The Concept of Purity and Its Implications
26:24 Racial Dynamics in Purity Culture
35:50 Connecting Sexual Purity to Racial Identity
37:28 The Importance of Historical Context
38:17 Teaching Religion, Race, and Discrimination
39:53 How to Support the Show
41:18 The Process of Academic Research
45:09 Challenges and Ethics in Purity Culture Research
49:39 The Intersection of Academia and Therapy
54:44 Lightning Round: Author's Preferences and Insights
01:04:54 The Value of Education and Final Thoughts</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2026 20:38:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>In the first interview of 2026, I talk to Sara Moslener about her latest book, After Purity: Race, Sex, and Religion in White Christian America. (Buy the book from bookshop.org here &amp; support the show: https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9780807014998) 

Learn more about Sara's work at https://saramoslener.com/

Support this channel at https://www.blakechastain.com; 25% of net proceeds from direct support are donated.

Watch the episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Mnzmm_WI8V4

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome
01:00 Sarah's Religious Upbringing
04:53 The Influence of Pro-Life Movement
07:16 College and Theater: A Path to Self-Discovery
16:25 Pursuing Academia and Feminist Theology
21:10 The Concept of Purity and Its Implications
26:24 Racial Dynamics in Purity Culture
35:50 Connecting Sexual Purity to Racial Identity
37:28 The Importance of Historical Context
38:17 Teaching Religion, Race, and Discrimination
39:53 How to Support the Show
41:18 The Process of Academic Research
45:09 Challenges and Ethics in Purity Culture Research
49:39 The Intersection of Academia and Therapy
54:44 Lightning Round: Author's Preferences and Insights
01:04:54 The Value of Education and Final Thoughts</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the first interview of 2026, I talk to Sara Moslener about her latest book, After Purity: Race, Sex, and Religion in White Christian America. (Buy the book from bookshop.org here &amp; support the show: https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9780807014998) 

Learn more about Sara's work at https://saramoslener.com/

Support this channel at https://www.blakechastain.com; 25% of net proceeds from direct support are donated.</p>
<p>Watch the episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Mnzmm_WI8V4

00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome
01:00 Sarah's Religious Upbringing
04:53 The Influence of Pro-Life Movement
07:16 College and Theater: A Path to Self-Discovery
16:25 Pursuing Academia and Feminist Theology
21:10 The Concept of Purity and Its Implications
26:24 Racial Dynamics in Purity Culture
35:50 Connecting Sexual Purity to Racial Identity
37:28 The Importance of Historical Context
38:17 Teaching Religion, Race, and Discrimination
39:53 How to Support the Show
41:18 The Process of Academic Research
45:09 Challenges and Ethics in Purity Culture Research
49:39 The Intersection of Academia and Therapy
54:44 Lightning Round: Author's Preferences and Insights
01:04:54 The Value of Education and Final Thoughts</p>]]>
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      <title>Pride Reads: 10 LGBTQ+ Book Recommendations</title>
      <description>Here's the audio for a short video I posted to YouTube with 10 LGBTQ+ Book Recommendations. Subscribe over on YouTube.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2025 19:50:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>Here's the audio for a short video I posted to YouTube with 10 LGBTQ+ Book Recommendations. Subscribe over on YouTube.</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Here's the audio for a short video I posted to YouTube with 10 LGBTQ+ Book Recommendations. Subscribe over on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@brchastain_">YouTube</a>.</p>
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      <title>Disciples of White Jesus with Angela Denker</title>
      <description>In this episode, I chat with author Angela Denker about her latest book, Disciples of White Jesus. 

Subscribe to Angela's newsletter. 

Support the show via my newsletter: postevangelicalpost.com.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2025 05:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode, I chat with author Angela Denker about her latest book, Disciples of White Jesus. 

Subscribe to Angela's newsletter. 

Support the show via my newsletter: postevangelicalpost.com.</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, I chat with author Angela Denker about her latest book, <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9798889830757"><em>Disciples of White Jesus</em></a>. </p>
<p>Subscribe to Angela's <a href="https://angeladenker.substack.com/">newsletter</a>. 

Support the show via my newsletter: <a href="https://www.postevangelicalpost.com">postevangelicalpost.com.</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Shame-Sex Attraction with Lucas FW Wilson</title>
      <description>In this episode of The Good Books, I talk to Lucas FW Wilson about the essay anthology Shame-Sex Attraction: Survivors' Stories of Conversion Therapy. This is a visceral, moving anthology about conversion therapy experiences. 

Purchase the book via Bookshop.org [affiliate link]: https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9781805011323
Follow Lucas on Instagram &amp; Threads: https://www.threads.com/@lukeslamdunkwilson

Subscribe to my newsletter: postevangelicalpost.com 
Buy my book, Exvangelical &amp; Beyond: How American Christianity Went Radical and the Movement That's Fighting Back: https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9780593717073</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2025 13:26:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode of The Good Books, I talk to Lucas FW Wilson about the essay anthology Shame-Sex Attraction: Survivors' Stories of Conversion Therapy. This is a visceral, moving anthology about conversion therapy experiences. 

Purchase the book via Bookshop.org [affiliate link]: https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9781805011323
Follow Lucas on Instagram &amp; Threads: https://www.threads.com/@lukeslamdunkwilson

Subscribe to my newsletter: postevangelicalpost.com 
Buy my book, Exvangelical &amp; Beyond: How American Christianity Went Radical and the Movement That's Fighting Back: https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9780593717073</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of The Good Books, I talk to Lucas FW Wilson about the essay anthology <strong>Shame-Sex Attraction: Survivors' Stories of Conversion Therapy.</strong> This is a visceral, moving anthology about conversion therapy experiences. 

Purchase the book via Bookshop.org [affiliate link]: <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9781805011323">https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9781805011323</a>
Follow Lucas on Instagram &amp; Threads: <a href="https://www.threads.com/@lukeslamdunkwilson">https://www.threads.com/@lukeslamdunkwilson</a>

Subscribe to my newsletter: <a href="postevangelicalpost.com">postevangelicalpost.com</a> 
Buy my book, Exvangelical &amp; Beyond: How American Christianity Went Radical and the Movement That's Fighting Back: <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9780593717073">https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9780593717073</a>
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      <title>How to Have An Enemy with Melissa Florer-Bixler</title>
      <description>In this episode, I talk to Melissa Florer-Bixler about her 2021 book How to Have An Enemy: Righteous Anger and the Work of Peace. Buy the book here to support my work. 

This book has provided a lot of wisdom to me over the past few years, and I was honored to be able to talk to Melissa about it.

Support my work directly with a paid subscription to The Post-Evangeilcal Post for $5/month or $50/year. I donate 25% of net proceeds. Lean more at postevangelicalpost.com/support. 

The Good Books is a production of The Post-Evangelical Post and distributed by Irreverent Media Group.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2025 15:48:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode, I talk to Melissa Florer-Bixler about her 2021 book How to Have An Enemy: Righteous Anger and the Work of Peace. Buy the book here to support my work. 

This book has provided a lot of wisdom to me over the past few years, and I was honored to be able to talk to Melissa about it.

Support my work directly with a paid subscription to The Post-Evangeilcal Post for $5/month or $50/year. I donate 25% of net proceeds. Lean more at postevangelicalpost.com/support. 

The Good Books is a production of The Post-Evangelical Post and distributed by Irreverent Media Group.</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, I talk to Melissa Florer-Bixler about her 2021 book<em> How to Have An Enemy: Righteous Anger and the Work of Peace</em>. Buy the <a href="https://bookshop.org/a/11130/9781513808130">book here</a> to support my work. </p><p><br></p><p>This book has provided a lot of wisdom to me over the past few years, and I was honored to be able to talk to Melissa about it.</p><p><br></p><p>Support my work directly with a paid subscription to The Post-Evangeilcal Post for $5/month or $50/year. I donate 25% of net proceeds. Lean more at <a href="https://www.postevangelicalpost.com/support">postevangelicalpost.com/support</a>. </p><p><br></p><p>The Good Books is a production of The Post-Evangelical Post and distributed by Irreverent Media Group. </p>]]>
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