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    <title>The Most Interesting Thing in AI</title>
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    <description>A podcast series examining how AI is reshaping our world. Hosted by Nicholas Thompson, each episode features a conversation with a leading thinker who offers a fresh perspective on the far-reaching ethical, economic, and social implications of this technology.</description>
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    <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
    <itunes:summary>A podcast series examining how AI is reshaping our world. Hosted by Nicholas Thompson, each episode features a conversation with a leading thinker who offers a fresh perspective on the far-reaching ethical, economic, and social implications of this technology.</itunes:summary>
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      <itunes:name>Atlantic Re:think</itunes:name>
      <itunes:email>rethink-podcasts@theatlantic.com</itunes:email>
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      <title>AI Utopia or Catastrophe? Nick Bostrom with Nicholas Thompson</title>
      <description>Will AI destroy the world, or transform it into one of abundance? Across two books and several papers, philosopher Nick Bostrom has envisioned a range of AI futures. He joins Nicholas Thompson to discuss the ethics of how we treat AI, whether AI has sentience, and why he believes we should keep building, even at the risk of annihilation.  



Produced in collaboration with PwC.

(00:00) Introduction to Nick Bostrom and Superintelligence 

(01:56) How AI development matched Bostrom's predictions 

(04:48) Recursive self-improvement: Are we there yet? 

(07:40) Physical limits of intelligence and computational ceilings 

(09:40) Timeline predictions: Next year vs. next five years 

(11:46) Embodied intelligence: Can AI replicate motor skills? 

(14:32) Centralization vs. democratization of AI power 

(16:52) The race dynamics: One leader vs  many competitors

(19:57) AI alignment: Making systems behave as intended 

(21:37) The gap between model power and our understanding 

(23:25) "Optimal Timing for Superintelligence" paper explained 

(28:14) Swift to harbor, slow to berth: When to pause AI development 

(35:20) Moral status of digital minds and sentience 

(41:23) Building trust with potentially misaligned AI 

(44:11) Where to invest unlimited AI research funding 

(47:07) Closing: Should we say please and thank you to AI?


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      <pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2026 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Will AI destroy the world, or transform it into one of abundance? Across two books and several papers, philosopher Nick Bostrom has envisioned a range of AI futures. He joins Nicholas Thompson to discuss the ethics of how we treat AI, whether AI has sentience, and why he believes we should keep building, even at the risk of annihilation.  



Produced in collaboration with PwC.

(00:00) Introduction to Nick Bostrom and Superintelligence 

(01:56) How AI development matched Bostrom's predictions 

(04:48) Recursive self-improvement: Are we there yet? 

(07:40) Physical limits of intelligence and computational ceilings 

(09:40) Timeline predictions: Next year vs. next five years 

(11:46) Embodied intelligence: Can AI replicate motor skills? 

(14:32) Centralization vs. democratization of AI power 

(16:52) The race dynamics: One leader vs  many competitors

(19:57) AI alignment: Making systems behave as intended 

(21:37) The gap between model power and our understanding 

(23:25) "Optimal Timing for Superintelligence" paper explained 

(28:14) Swift to harbor, slow to berth: When to pause AI development 

(35:20) Moral status of digital minds and sentience 

(41:23) Building trust with potentially misaligned AI 

(44:11) Where to invest unlimited AI research funding 

(47:07) Closing: Should we say please and thank you to AI?


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        <![CDATA[<p>Will AI destroy the world, or transform it into one of abundance? Across two books and several papers, philosopher Nick Bostrom has envisioned a range of AI futures. He joins Nicholas Thompson to discuss the ethics of how we treat AI, whether AI has sentience, and why he believes we should keep building, even at the risk of annihilation.  </p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Produced in collaboration with PwC.</p>
<p><br>(00:00) Introduction to Nick Bostrom and Superintelligence </p>
<p>(01:56) How AI development matched Bostrom's predictions </p>
<p>(04:48) Recursive self-improvement: Are we there yet? </p>
<p>(07:40) Physical limits of intelligence and computational ceilings </p>
<p>(09:40) Timeline predictions: Next year vs. next five years </p>
<p>(11:46) Embodied intelligence: Can AI replicate motor skills? </p>
<p>(14:32) Centralization vs. democratization of AI power </p>
<p>(16:52) The race dynamics: One leader vs  many competitors</p>
<p>(19:57) AI alignment: Making systems behave as intended </p>
<p>(21:37) The gap between model power and our understanding </p>
<p>(23:25) "Optimal Timing for Superintelligence" paper explained </p>
<p>(28:14) Swift to harbor, slow to berth: When to pause AI development </p>
<p>(35:20) Moral status of digital minds and sentience </p>
<p>(41:23) Building trust with potentially misaligned AI </p>
<p>(44:11) Where to invest unlimited AI research funding </p>
<p>(47:07) Closing: Should we say please and thank you to AI?</p>
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      <title>The Case for Open-Source AI - with Nicholas Thompson and Raffi Krikorian </title>
      <description>Why does AI answer the way it does? Even as models cite their sources, the question of “why” remains one of the most confounding in the industry, with huge implications for users and builders alike. Mozilla CTO Raffi Krikorian says much of the answer lies in open-source AI— letting users look under the hood to see what’s happening. It’s a compelling idea, one that could also impact safety and alignment. But can it thrive? And what are the risks of ceding control? In a deep conversation with Atlantic CEO Nicholas Thompson, Raffi describes a world where technology is liberated from a handful of corporations, shares his hopes and fears for AI, and reflects on his recent car crash involving a self-driving Tesla.





(00:00) Introduction: The mystery of AI decision-making and the need for transparency 

(02:25) Twitter, Uber, and the DNC: Raffi’s career history

(05:01) How centralization changed Twitter into X

(08:30) Why seven companies shouldn't control AGI 

(11:38) Mozilla's mission: Building an open AI ecosystem like Firefox did for the web 

(14:21) Is it strange that Google funds Firefox?

(16:40) The four layers of AI openness: Compute, data, models, and developer tooling

(22:20) Data ethics and provenance: Creating markets for ethically-sourced training data 

(26:44) What counts as “true” open-source AI?

(32:04) The risks of open source AI: Balancing accessibility with safety concerns 

(35:56) Should powerful AI be restricted like nuclear weapons? 

(39:17) Raffi's Tesla crash and the danger of automated complacency 

(46:56) Preserving humanity in the age of AI: Avoiding the "WALL-E" future


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      <pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2026 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Why does AI answer the way it does? Even as models cite their sources, the question of “why” remains one of the most confounding in the industry, with huge implications for users and builders alike. Mozilla CTO Raffi Krikorian says much of the answer lies in open-source AI— letting users look under the hood to see what’s happening. It’s a compelling idea, one that could also impact safety and alignment. But can it thrive? And what are the risks of ceding control? In a deep conversation with Atlantic CEO Nicholas Thompson, Raffi describes a world where technology is liberated from a handful of corporations, shares his hopes and fears for AI, and reflects on his recent car crash involving a self-driving Tesla.





(00:00) Introduction: The mystery of AI decision-making and the need for transparency 

(02:25) Twitter, Uber, and the DNC: Raffi’s career history

(05:01) How centralization changed Twitter into X

(08:30) Why seven companies shouldn't control AGI 

(11:38) Mozilla's mission: Building an open AI ecosystem like Firefox did for the web 

(14:21) Is it strange that Google funds Firefox?

(16:40) The four layers of AI openness: Compute, data, models, and developer tooling

(22:20) Data ethics and provenance: Creating markets for ethically-sourced training data 

(26:44) What counts as “true” open-source AI?

(32:04) The risks of open source AI: Balancing accessibility with safety concerns 

(35:56) Should powerful AI be restricted like nuclear weapons? 

(39:17) Raffi's Tesla crash and the danger of automated complacency 

(46:56) Preserving humanity in the age of AI: Avoiding the "WALL-E" future


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<p>Why does AI answer the way it does? Even as models cite their sources, the question of “why” remains one of the most confounding in the industry, with huge implications for users and builders alike. Mozilla CTO Raffi Krikorian says much of the answer lies in open-source AI— letting users look under the hood to see what’s happening. It’s a compelling idea, one that could also impact safety and alignment. But can it thrive? And what are the risks of ceding control? In a deep conversation with Atlantic CEO Nicholas Thompson, Raffi describes a world where technology is liberated from a handful of corporations, shares his hopes and fears for AI, and reflects on his recent car crash involving a self-driving Tesla.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>(00:00) Introduction: The mystery of AI decision-making and the need for transparency </p>
<p>(02:25) Twitter, Uber, and the DNC: Raffi’s career history</p>
<p>(05:01) How centralization changed Twitter into X</p>
<p>(08:30) Why seven companies shouldn't control AGI </p>
<p>(11:38) Mozilla's mission: Building an open AI ecosystem like Firefox did for the web </p>
<p>(14:21) Is it strange that Google funds Firefox?</p>
<p>(16:40) The four layers of AI openness: Compute, data, models, and developer tooling</p>
<p>(22:20) Data ethics and provenance: Creating markets for ethically-sourced training data </p>
<p>(26:44) What counts as “true” open-source AI?</p>
<p>(32:04) The risks of open source AI: Balancing accessibility with safety concerns </p>
<p>(35:56) Should powerful AI be restricted like nuclear weapons? </p>
<p>(39:17) Raffi's Tesla crash and the danger of automated complacency </p>
<p>(46:56) Preserving humanity in the age of AI: Avoiding the "WALL-E" future</p>
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      <title>Sam Altman on Where AI Models Go Next, with Nicholas Thompson</title>
      <description>OpenAI’s Sam Altman sits for an interview with Nicholas Thompson, CEO of The Atlantic, to discuss AI’s trustworthiness, its dangers, and its impact on young people. Altman also discusses his company’s pledge to “stop competing and start assisting” rival projects that approach AGI, and why he thinks we’re not there yet. In a thorough and wide-ranging conversation, Altman opens up about where he thinks AI will go next and the mysteries that he still can’t solve.



Recorded at OpenAI’s offices in San Francisco.



(00:00) Introduction

(02:33) Is our understanding of AI keeping pace with its growth in power?

(05:10) Is chain-of-thought the key to trusting a model?

(11:07) Open source AI, cybersecurity, and "infected" agents

(16:26) Have we hit recursive self-improvement?

(19:18) What does AI do on Sam Altman's computer?

(21:15) Why hasn't AI made an impact in business yet?

(24:04) Will AI make the wealth gap worse?

(27:01) Why do young people hate AI? 

(30:23) The challenges of AI sycophancy 

(33:36) Do you regret making AI so human-like? 

(36:53) Synthetic data and "mad cow disease" 

(39:22) The future of publishing and media 

(41:54) Do we need neurosymbolic AI? 

(43:40) Will you cooperate with Anthropic if they get to AGI first? 

(47:42) What is your advice to parents who are anxious for their kids' future? 

(49:46) If you had infinite resources, what would you pursue??


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      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>OpenAI’s Sam Altman sits for an interview with Nicholas Thompson, CEO of The Atlantic, to discuss AI’s trustworthiness, its dangers, and its impact on young people. Altman also discusses his company’s pledge to “stop competing and start assisting” rival projects that approach AGI, and why he thinks we’re not there yet. In a thorough and wide-ranging conversation, Altman opens up about where he thinks AI will go next and the mysteries that he still can’t solve.



Recorded at OpenAI’s offices in San Francisco.



(00:00) Introduction

(02:33) Is our understanding of AI keeping pace with its growth in power?

(05:10) Is chain-of-thought the key to trusting a model?

(11:07) Open source AI, cybersecurity, and "infected" agents

(16:26) Have we hit recursive self-improvement?

(19:18) What does AI do on Sam Altman's computer?

(21:15) Why hasn't AI made an impact in business yet?

(24:04) Will AI make the wealth gap worse?

(27:01) Why do young people hate AI? 

(30:23) The challenges of AI sycophancy 

(33:36) Do you regret making AI so human-like? 

(36:53) Synthetic data and "mad cow disease" 

(39:22) The future of publishing and media 

(41:54) Do we need neurosymbolic AI? 

(43:40) Will you cooperate with Anthropic if they get to AGI first? 

(47:42) What is your advice to parents who are anxious for their kids' future? 

(49:46) If you had infinite resources, what would you pursue??


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        <![CDATA[<p>OpenAI’s Sam Altman sits for an interview with Nicholas Thompson, CEO of <em>The Atlantic</em>, to discuss AI’s trustworthiness, its dangers, and its impact on young people. Altman also discusses his company’s pledge to “stop competing and start assisting” rival projects that approach AGI, and why he thinks we’re not there yet. In a thorough and wide-ranging conversation, Altman opens up about where he thinks AI will go next and the mysteries that he still can’t solve.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Recorded at OpenAI’s offices in San Francisco.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>(00:00) Introduction</p>
<p>(02:33) Is our understanding of AI keeping pace with its growth in power?</p>
<p>(05:10) Is chain-of-thought the key to trusting a model?</p>
<p>(11:07) Open source AI, cybersecurity, and "infected" agents</p>
<p>(16:26) Have we hit recursive self-improvement?</p>
<p>(19:18) What does AI do on Sam Altman's computer?</p>
<p>(21:15) Why hasn't AI made an impact in business yet?</p>
<p>(24:04) Will AI make the wealth gap worse?</p>
<p>(27:01) Why do young people hate AI? </p>
<p>(30:23) The challenges of AI sycophancy </p>
<p>(33:36) Do you regret making AI so human-like? </p>
<p>(36:53) Synthetic data and "mad cow disease" </p>
<p>(39:22) The future of publishing and media </p>
<p>(41:54) Do we need neurosymbolic AI? </p>
<p>(43:40) Will you cooperate with Anthropic if they get to AGI first? </p>
<p>(47:42) What is your advice to parents who are anxious for their kids' future? </p>
<p>(49:46) If you had infinite resources, what would you pursue??</p>
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      <itunes:duration>3195</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Data Centers in Space - with Nicholas Thompson and Ariel Ekblaw </title>
      <description>AI needs data centers, and those data centers need energy and cooling. Recently, one proposal has captured the popular imagination: put data centers in space, where there’s ample solar energy and naturally cool surroundings. But things aren’t quite that simple, says space architect Ariel Ekblaw of the Aurelia Institute. 

On this episode of The Most Interesting Thing in AI, Ekblaw talks with The Atlantic CEO Nicholas Thompson about the possibilities for building structures in space, the innovative designs coming out of the Aurelia Institute, and why data centers in space are a good idea… for certain billionaires. 

Produced in collaboration with PwC.

(00:00) Introduction

(02:22) What is a space architect? 

(04:45) How does someone become a space architect?

(07:39) How do "space Magna-Tiles" work?

(11:00) Why build in space?

(12:45) Will we have chatbots in space?

(15:00) How space will change robotics

(16:56) Why would anyone want to live in space? 

(19:55) Will we actually go to space soon? 

(20:49) Artificial gravity


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      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2026 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>AI needs data centers, and those data centers need energy and cooling. Recently, one proposal has captured the popular imagination: put data centers in space, where there’s ample solar energy and naturally cool surroundings. But things aren’t quite that simple, says space architect Ariel Ekblaw of the Aurelia Institute. 

On this episode of The Most Interesting Thing in AI, Ekblaw talks with The Atlantic CEO Nicholas Thompson about the possibilities for building structures in space, the innovative designs coming out of the Aurelia Institute, and why data centers in space are a good idea… for certain billionaires. 

Produced in collaboration with PwC.

(00:00) Introduction

(02:22) What is a space architect? 

(04:45) How does someone become a space architect?

(07:39) How do "space Magna-Tiles" work?

(11:00) Why build in space?

(12:45) Will we have chatbots in space?

(15:00) How space will change robotics

(16:56) Why would anyone want to live in space? 

(19:55) Will we actually go to space soon? 

(20:49) Artificial gravity


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        <![CDATA[<p>AI needs data centers, and those data centers need energy and cooling. Recently, one proposal has captured the popular imagination: put data centers in space, where there’s ample solar energy and naturally cool surroundings. But things aren’t quite that simple, says space architect Ariel Ekblaw of the Aurelia Institute. </p>
<p>On this episode of The Most Interesting Thing in AI, Ekblaw talks with <em>The Atlantic</em> CEO Nicholas Thompson about the possibilities for building structures in space, the innovative designs coming out of the Aurelia Institute, and why data centers in space are a good idea… for certain billionaires. </p>
<p>Produced in collaboration with PwC.</p>
<p><br>(00:00) Introduction</p>
<p>(02:22) What is a space architect? </p>
<p>(04:45) How does someone become a space architect?</p>
<p>(07:39) How do "space Magna-Tiles" work?</p>
<p>(11:00) Why build in space?</p>
<p>(12:45) Will we have chatbots in space?</p>
<p>(15:00) How space will change robotics</p>
<p>(16:56) Why would anyone want to live in space? </p>
<p>(19:55) Will we actually go to space soon? </p>
<p>(20:49) Artificial gravity</p>
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      <itunes:duration>2375</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Season 4 Trailer</title>
      <description>Where does AI go next? And what happens to us? Join The Atlantic’s CEO Nicholas Thompson as he speaks with leaders, developers, philosophers, and more about AI’s impacts, present and future. New episodes every Wednesday, starting April 22. 

Produced in collaboration with PwC.


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      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 09:07:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>trailer</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Where does AI go next? And what happens to us? Join The Atlantic’s CEO Nicholas Thompson as he speaks with leaders, developers, philosophers, and more about AI’s impacts, present and future. New episodes every Wednesday, starting April 22. 

Produced in collaboration with PwC.


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        <![CDATA[<p>Where does AI go next? And what happens to us? Join The Atlantic’s CEO Nicholas Thompson as he speaks with leaders, developers, philosophers, and more about AI’s impacts, present and future. New episodes every Wednesday, starting April 22. </p>
<p>Produced in collaboration with PwC.<br></p>
<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>59</itunes:duration>
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      <title>The Copyright Wars - with Nicholas Thompson and Bill Gross</title>
      <description>In this episode, The Atlantic’s CEO Nicholas Thompson speaks with serial entrepreneur and Idealab founder Bill Gross about his latest venture, ProRata, a bold attempt to create a fair exchange of value between AI companies and the creators whose work helped train their models. From inventing search advertising to tackling one of AI’s most urgent ethical challenges, Gross explains how innovation and fair market dynamics can align—and how humans are still underestimating the transformative power of AI.



(00:00)  Introduction 

(06:32)  How Bill invented paid search in the 1990s

(13:29)  NYT v. OpenAI as the “lightning strike moment” that inspired ProRata

(16:16)  Solving the “impossible problem” of AI attribution

(21:36)  ProRata’s plan for revenue sharing between creators and AI companies

(24:13)  How YouTube shows revenue sharing could make AI companies even stronger

(28:20)  When there will be a one-person company with a billion-dollar valuation

(29:23)  AI could be net positive for the climate in as little as five years

(33:01)  The most interesting way Bill has used AI recently
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      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2025 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/7dfaa290-c722-11f0-a7dc-c33a0524f2c1/image/e9651ebcc274a4ea1704cdfeda7a5606.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode, The Atlantic’s CEO Nicholas Thompson speaks with serial entrepreneur and Idealab founder Bill Gross about his latest venture, ProRata, a bold attempt to create a fair exchange of value between AI companies and the creators whose work helped train their models. From inventing search advertising to tackling one of AI’s most urgent ethical challenges, Gross explains how innovation and fair market dynamics can align—and how humans are still underestimating the transformative power of AI.



(00:00)  Introduction 

(06:32)  How Bill invented paid search in the 1990s

(13:29)  NYT v. OpenAI as the “lightning strike moment” that inspired ProRata

(16:16)  Solving the “impossible problem” of AI attribution

(21:36)  ProRata’s plan for revenue sharing between creators and AI companies

(24:13)  How YouTube shows revenue sharing could make AI companies even stronger

(28:20)  When there will be a one-person company with a billion-dollar valuation

(29:23)  AI could be net positive for the climate in as little as five years

(33:01)  The most interesting way Bill has used AI recently
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, The Atlantic’s CEO Nicholas Thompson speaks with serial entrepreneur and Idealab founder Bill Gross about his latest venture, ProRata, a bold attempt to create a fair exchange of value between AI companies and the creators whose work helped train their models. From inventing search advertising to tackling one of AI’s most urgent ethical challenges, Gross explains how innovation and fair market dynamics can align—and how humans are still underestimating the transformative power of AI.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>(00:00)  Introduction </p>
<p>(06:32)  How Bill invented paid search in the 1990s</p>
<p>(13:29)  NYT v. OpenAI as the “lightning strike moment” that inspired ProRata</p>
<p>(16:16)  Solving the “impossible problem” of AI attribution</p>
<p>(21:36)  ProRata’s plan for revenue sharing between creators and AI companies</p>
<p>(24:13)  How YouTube shows revenue sharing could make AI companies even stronger</p>
<p>(28:20)  When there will be a one-person company with a billion-dollar valuation</p>
<p>(29:23)  AI could be net positive for the climate in as little as five years</p>
<p>(33:01)  The most interesting way Bill has used AI recently</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2174</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Building Trustworthy AI - with Nicholas Thompson and Navrina Singh</title>
      <description>What happens when AI learns faster than its makers can control? In this episode, Nicholas talks with Navrina Singh, founder and CEO of Credo AI, about how regulation could actually accelerate innovation of more responsible, transparent AI. Together, they dig into how governance can help the U.S. compete with China, prevent bias, and keep trust and transparency at the center of the AI revolution.



(00:00)  Introduction

(04:09)  What we learned from Microsoft’s Tay disaster

(06:58)  Why Navrina started Credo AI

(11:12)  Managing risk across the AI supply chain

(12:43)  Preventing bias in customer support chatbots

(17:54)  Is AI making the world less equal?

(19:40)  Ethics vs. speed in the AI race with China

(21:40)  How governance leads to better, faster products

(28:04)  Why there’s no perfect AI regulation right now

(31:14)  Preparing for a world where AI governs itself

(34:15)  The most interesting way Navrina has used AI
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      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2025 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/00b084da-c169-11f0-8092-072687ff4770/image/d31be1a4a5cee85944efc5e81129a55b.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>What happens when AI learns faster than its makers can control? In this episode, Nicholas talks with Navrina Singh, founder and CEO of Credo AI, about how regulation could actually accelerate innovation of more responsible, transparent AI. Together, they dig into how governance can help the U.S. compete with China, prevent bias, and keep trust and transparency at the center of the AI revolution.



(00:00)  Introduction

(04:09)  What we learned from Microsoft’s Tay disaster

(06:58)  Why Navrina started Credo AI

(11:12)  Managing risk across the AI supply chain

(12:43)  Preventing bias in customer support chatbots

(17:54)  Is AI making the world less equal?

(19:40)  Ethics vs. speed in the AI race with China

(21:40)  How governance leads to better, faster products

(28:04)  Why there’s no perfect AI regulation right now

(31:14)  Preparing for a world where AI governs itself

(34:15)  The most interesting way Navrina has used AI
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        <![CDATA[<p>What happens when AI learns faster than its makers can control? In this episode, Nicholas talks with Navrina Singh, founder and CEO of Credo AI, about how regulation could actually accelerate innovation of more responsible, transparent AI. Together, they dig into how governance can help the U.S. compete with China, prevent bias, and keep trust and transparency at the center of the AI revolution.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>(00:00)  Introduction</p>
<p>(04:09)  What we learned from Microsoft’s Tay disaster</p>
<p>(06:58)  Why Navrina started Credo AI</p>
<p>(11:12)  Managing risk across the AI supply chain</p>
<p>(12:43)  Preventing bias in customer support chatbots</p>
<p>(17:54)  Is AI making the world less equal?</p>
<p>(19:40)  Ethics vs. speed in the AI race with China</p>
<p>(21:40)  How governance leads to better, faster products</p>
<p>(28:04)  Why there’s no perfect AI regulation right now</p>
<p>(31:14)  Preparing for a world where AI governs itself</p>
<p>(34:15)  The most interesting way Navrina has used AI</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2223</itunes:duration>
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      <title>AI in Flight - with Nicholas Thompson, Tory Bruno and Joe Schurman</title>
      <description>The space race has gone private, and in this new world, efficiency is key. United Launch Alliance CEO Tory Bruno explains how a legacy rocket maker remade itself to compete in an industry full of startups. From load analysis and low-earth-orbit satellite monitoring to rockets with autonomous flight systems, Bruno unpacks what happens when machine learning meets computational fluid dynamics in our atmosphere. Plus, why AI might be critical to landing  a man on Mars—and getting them home alive.



(00:00) Introduction

(01:38)  From backyard rockets to Boeing and Lockheed (Tory Bruno)

(03:58)  Transforming ULA for a new space race

(06:09)  The physics of launch: energy, precision, and peril

(08:41)  Reprogramming flight paths with AI

(10:55)  The coming age of autonomous and reusable rockets

(16:27)  When we'll really send humans to Mars—and bring them back

(19:36)  How AI could help us find, and talk to, alien life

(29:20)  AI in the space economy (Joe Schurman)

(34:16)  The $2 trillion future of space

(37:51)  The most interesting way Joe has used AI


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2025 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The space race has gone private, and in this new world, efficiency is key. United Launch Alliance CEO Tory Bruno explains how a legacy rocket maker remade itself to compete in an industry full of startups. From load analysis and low-earth-orbit satellite monitoring to rockets with autonomous flight systems, Bruno unpacks what happens when machine learning meets computational fluid dynamics in our atmosphere. Plus, why AI might be critical to landing  a man on Mars—and getting them home alive.



(00:00) Introduction

(01:38)  From backyard rockets to Boeing and Lockheed (Tory Bruno)

(03:58)  Transforming ULA for a new space race

(06:09)  The physics of launch: energy, precision, and peril

(08:41)  Reprogramming flight paths with AI

(10:55)  The coming age of autonomous and reusable rockets

(16:27)  When we'll really send humans to Mars—and bring them back

(19:36)  How AI could help us find, and talk to, alien life

(29:20)  AI in the space economy (Joe Schurman)

(34:16)  The $2 trillion future of space

(37:51)  The most interesting way Joe has used AI


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The space race has gone private, and in this new world, efficiency is key. United Launch Alliance CEO Tory Bruno explains how a legacy rocket maker remade itself to compete in an industry full of startups. From load analysis and low-earth-orbit satellite monitoring to rockets with autonomous flight systems, Bruno unpacks what happens when machine learning meets computational fluid dynamics in our atmosphere. Plus, why AI might be critical to landing  a man on Mars—and getting them home alive.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>(00:00) Introduction</p>
<p>(01:38)  From backyard rockets to Boeing and Lockheed (Tory Bruno)</p>
<p>(03:58)  Transforming ULA for a new space race</p>
<p>(06:09)  The physics of launch: energy, precision, and peril</p>
<p>(08:41)  Reprogramming flight paths with AI</p>
<p>(10:55)  The coming age of autonomous and reusable rockets</p>
<p>(16:27)  When we'll really send humans to Mars—and bring them back</p>
<p>(19:36)  How AI could help us find, and talk to, alien life</p>
<p>(29:20)  AI in the space economy (Joe Schurman)</p>
<p>(34:16)  The $2 trillion future of space</p>
<p>(37:51)  The most interesting way Joe has used AI</p>
<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2356</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Artificial Life - with Nicholas Thompson and Lee Cronin</title>
      <description>How do you digitize the physical world? In this episode, Nick talks with University of Glasgow chemistry professor Lee Cronin, founder of Chemify—a company that is using AI to turn molecules to code s—about his quest to create a programming language for chemistry, what it means to “print” molecules, and how his team is able to discover new drugs and materials through their “chemputer.” He also discusses how the work is offering new insights into the origins of life on Earth and how to identify it on other planets.



(00:00)  Introduction

(01:45)  From setting fires to studying life

(05:00)  Creating a programming language for chemistry

(09:20)  Designing and “printing” new molecules

(10:45)  How hype has distorted AI’s promise

(14:17)  From sand to cells: the origin of life

(16:01)  Assembly theory and the bridge from nonlife to life

(19:15)  What it would take for AI to come alive

(23:48)  The most interesting way Lee has used AI
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      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2025 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/0d151712-b8c3-11f0-8267-4ffc69f293c1/image/0fa862d5502d310565bab997065c329c.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>How do you digitize the physical world? In this episode, Nick talks with University of Glasgow chemistry professor Lee Cronin, founder of Chemify—a company that is using AI to turn molecules to code s—about his quest to create a programming language for chemistry, what it means to “print” molecules, and how his team is able to discover new drugs and materials through their “chemputer.” He also discusses how the work is offering new insights into the origins of life on Earth and how to identify it on other planets.



(00:00)  Introduction

(01:45)  From setting fires to studying life

(05:00)  Creating a programming language for chemistry

(09:20)  Designing and “printing” new molecules

(10:45)  How hype has distorted AI’s promise

(14:17)  From sand to cells: the origin of life

(16:01)  Assembly theory and the bridge from nonlife to life

(19:15)  What it would take for AI to come alive

(23:48)  The most interesting way Lee has used AI
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How do you digitize the physical world? In this episode, Nick talks with University of Glasgow chemistry professor Lee Cronin, founder of Chemify—a company that is using AI to turn molecules to code s—about his quest to create a programming language for chemistry, what it means to “print” molecules, and how his team is able to discover new drugs and materials through their “chemputer.” He also discusses how the work is offering new insights into the origins of life on Earth and how to identify it on other planets.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>(00:00)  Introduction</p>
<p>(01:45)  From setting fires to studying life</p>
<p>(05:00)  Creating a programming language for chemistry</p>
<p>(09:20)  Designing and “printing” new molecules</p>
<p>(10:45)  How hype has distorted AI’s promise</p>
<p>(14:17)  From sand to cells: the origin of life</p>
<p>(16:01)  Assembly theory and the bridge from nonlife to life</p>
<p>(19:15)  What it would take for AI to come alive</p>
<p>(23:48)  The most interesting way Lee has used AI</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>1560</itunes:duration>
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      <enclosure url="https://www.podtrac.com/pts/redirect.mp3/pdst.fm/e/traffic.megaphone.fm/ATL3966470352.mp3?updated=1762197664" length="0" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <title>The Future of  AI at Work - with Nicholas Thompson and Matt Wood</title>
      <description>What does it take to succeed in the disruptive world of AI? In this episode, Atlantic CEO Nicholas Thompson sits down with Matt Wood, PwC’s Global  and U.S. Commercial Technology and Innovation Officer, to trace his path from medical school and protein folding research to Amazon Web Services and now PwC. They discuss the transformative power of AI; why, when disruptive forces emerge, companies may be better off doubling down on their core identity rather than reinventing themselves; and how the organizations of the future may be reshaped by autonomous agents working alongside humans.



(00:00)  Introduction

(02:16)  Matt's path from medicine to machine learning

(05:47) The Human Genome Project and the data explosion

(09:28)  The AI inflection point

(11:41)  Why AI’s biggest impact will be organizational, not technical

(13:30)  How companies navigate disruption without losing identity

(19:18)  The coming flattening of organizations

(22:02)  Managing teams of humans and agents

(25:41)  The most interesting way Matt has used AI
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      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6684155a-b350-11f0-9dfe-dbef10d4f48d/image/10117db8a87a9e1bf90cf3f4026625e8.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>What does it take to succeed in the disruptive world of AI? In this episode, Atlantic CEO Nicholas Thompson sits down with Matt Wood, PwC’s Global  and U.S. Commercial Technology and Innovation Officer, to trace his path from medical school and protein folding research to Amazon Web Services and now PwC. They discuss the transformative power of AI; why, when disruptive forces emerge, companies may be better off doubling down on their core identity rather than reinventing themselves; and how the organizations of the future may be reshaped by autonomous agents working alongside humans.



(00:00)  Introduction

(02:16)  Matt's path from medicine to machine learning

(05:47) The Human Genome Project and the data explosion

(09:28)  The AI inflection point

(11:41)  Why AI’s biggest impact will be organizational, not technical

(13:30)  How companies navigate disruption without losing identity

(19:18)  The coming flattening of organizations

(22:02)  Managing teams of humans and agents

(25:41)  The most interesting way Matt has used AI
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>What does it take to succeed in the disruptive world of AI? In this episode, Atlantic CEO Nicholas Thompson sits down with Matt Wood, PwC’s Global  and U.S. Commercial Technology and Innovation Officer, to trace his path from medical school and protein folding research to Amazon Web Services and now PwC. They discuss the transformative power of AI; why, when disruptive forces emerge, companies may be better off doubling down on their core identity rather than reinventing themselves; and how the organizations of the future may be reshaped by autonomous agents working alongside humans.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>(00:00)  Introduction</p>
<p>(02:16)  Matt's path from medicine to machine learning</p>
<p>(05:47) The Human Genome Project and the data explosion</p>
<p>(09:28)  The AI inflection point</p>
<p>(11:41)  Why AI’s biggest impact will be organizational, not technical</p>
<p>(13:30)  How companies navigate disruption without losing identity</p>
<p>(19:18)  The coming flattening of organizations</p>
<p>(22:02)  Managing teams of humans and agents</p>
<p>(25:41)  The most interesting way Matt has used AI</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>1683</itunes:duration>
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      <title>The AI Athlete - with Nicholas Thompson and Will Ahmed</title>
      <description>Can AI unlock your full potential as an athlete? In this episode, Nicholas speaks with Will Ahmed, founder and CEO of Whoop, about how wearable technology and AI are transforming health, performance, and longevity. From monitoring sleep and recovery to analyzing biomarkers and offering personal health insights, Ahmed shares how Whoop is pushing the boundaries of what’s possible in healthcare in the age of AI. 



(00:00) Introduction

(02:09)  What WHOOP measures and how it works

(09:20)  What new metrics could reveal about the mind and body

(15:25)  How AI advances are changing WHOOP

(18:16)  Balancing personalization with privacy

(24:00)  Measuring health span and longevity

(24:37)  When performance and health diverge

(27:31)  The future of preventative, AI-driven health

(30:39)  The most interesting way Will has used AI
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      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/c2a81392-aaa2-11f0-9bbe-9f18ef973856/image/f873ba8ac626ae520d52fc750eb087d8.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Can AI unlock your full potential as an athlete? In this episode, Nicholas speaks with Will Ahmed, founder and CEO of Whoop, about how wearable technology and AI are transforming health, performance, and longevity. From monitoring sleep and recovery to analyzing biomarkers and offering personal health insights, Ahmed shares how Whoop is pushing the boundaries of what’s possible in healthcare in the age of AI. 



(00:00) Introduction

(02:09)  What WHOOP measures and how it works

(09:20)  What new metrics could reveal about the mind and body

(15:25)  How AI advances are changing WHOOP

(18:16)  Balancing personalization with privacy

(24:00)  Measuring health span and longevity

(24:37)  When performance and health diverge

(27:31)  The future of preventative, AI-driven health

(30:39)  The most interesting way Will has used AI
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Can AI unlock your full potential as an athlete? In this episode, Nicholas speaks with Will Ahmed, founder and CEO of Whoop, about how wearable technology and AI are transforming health, performance, and longevity. From monitoring sleep and recovery to analyzing biomarkers and offering personal health insights, Ahmed shares how Whoop is pushing the boundaries of what’s possible in healthcare in the age of AI. </p>
<p><br></p>
<p>(00:00) Introduction</p>
<p>(02:09)  What WHOOP measures and how it works</p>
<p>(09:20)  What new metrics could reveal about the mind and body</p>
<p>(15:25)  How AI advances are changing WHOOP</p>
<p>(18:16)  Balancing personalization with privacy</p>
<p>(24:00)  Measuring health span and longevity</p>
<p>(24:37)  When performance and health diverge</p>
<p>(27:31)  The future of preventative, AI-driven health</p>
<p>(30:39)  The most interesting way Will has used AI<br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2009</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Neuro-Symbolic AI - with Nicholas Thompson and Ohad Elhelo</title>
      <description>In this episode, Atlantic CEO Nicholas Thompson speaks with Ohad Elhelo, co-founder and CEO of AUI, about neuro-symbolic systems. Apollo-1, AUI's neuro-symbolic foundational model, promises both the fluency of generative models and the reliability of symbolic reasoning, an AI method that uses symbols and explicit rules to represent knowledge and perform logical inference. Could this hybrid architecture finally unlock task-oriented AI at scale?



(00:00) Introduction

(02:57)  A rift in the AI community

(04:59)  Why neuro-symbolic AI could succeed where chatbots have failed

(12:04)  How AUI built its model

(19:11)  How to solve the hallucination problem

(25:46)  Business use cases for neuro-symbolic AI

(30:48)  What happens once Apollo One launches

(35:03)  The most interesting way Ohad has used AI
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      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Atlantic CEO Nicholas Thompson speaks with Ohad Elhelo, co-founder and CEO of AUI, about neuro-symbolic systems. Apollo-1, AUI's neuro-symbolic foundational model, promises both the fluency of generative models and the reliability of symbolic reasoning, an AI method that uses symbols and explicit rules to represent knowledge and perform logical inference. Could this hybrid architecture finally unlock task-oriented AI at scale?



(00:00) Introduction

(02:57)  A rift in the AI community

(04:59)  Why neuro-symbolic AI could succeed where chatbots have failed

(12:04)  How AUI built its model

(19:11)  How to solve the hallucination problem

(25:46)  Business use cases for neuro-symbolic AI

(30:48)  What happens once Apollo One launches

(35:03)  The most interesting way Ohad has used AI
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Atlantic CEO Nicholas Thompson speaks with Ohad Elhelo, co-founder and CEO of AUI, about neuro-symbolic systems. Apollo-1, AUI's neuro-symbolic foundational model, promises both the fluency of generative models and the reliability of symbolic reasoning, an AI method that uses symbols and explicit rules to represent knowledge and perform logical inference. Could this hybrid architecture finally unlock task-oriented AI at scale?</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>(00:00) Introduction</p>
<p>(02:57)  A rift in the AI community</p>
<p>(04:59)  Why neuro-symbolic AI could succeed where chatbots have failed</p>
<p>(12:04)  How AUI built its model</p>
<p>(19:11)  How to solve the hallucination problem</p>
<p>(25:46)  Business use cases for neuro-symbolic AI</p>
<p>(30:48)  What happens once Apollo One launches</p>
<p>(35:03)  The most interesting way Ohad has used AI</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Season 3 Trailer</title>
      <description>A podcast series examining how AI is reshaping our world. Each episode features a conversation with a leading thinker who offers a fresh perspective on the far-reaching ethical, economic, and social implications of this technology.
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      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>trailer</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>A podcast series examining how AI is reshaping our world. Each episode features a conversation with a leading thinker who offers a fresh perspective on the far-reaching ethical, economic, and social implications of this technology.
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        <![CDATA[<p>A podcast series examining how AI is reshaping our world. Each episode features a conversation with a leading thinker who offers a fresh perspective on the far-reaching ethical, economic, and social implications of this technology.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>86</itunes:duration>
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      <title>AI Optimism - with Nicholas Thompson and Kevin Kelly</title>
      <description>What happens if we get AI right? In this episode, Nicholas speaks with Wired co-founder Kevin Kelly about AI’s potential to positively impact the future of humanity.



Featured Guest: Kevin Kelly, co-founder of Wired
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      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>What happens if we get AI right? In this episode, Nicholas speaks with Wired co-founder Kevin Kelly about AI’s potential to positively impact the future of humanity.



Featured Guest: Kevin Kelly, co-founder of Wired
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        <![CDATA[<p>What happens if we get AI right? In this episode, Nicholas speaks with Wired co-founder Kevin Kelly about AI’s potential to positively impact the future of humanity.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Featured Guest: Kevin Kelly, co-founder of Wired</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2232</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Pharma's Future - with Nicholas Thompson, Diogo Rau and Dan Priest</title>
      <description>How is AI shaping the future of healthcare? In this episode, Nicholas speaks with Eli Lilly’s Diogo Rau about how AI is making it easier and faster to find life-saving drugs, and PwC Chief AI Officer Dan Priest about how the technology will transform healthcare experiences for patients in the next decade.



Featured Guests: Diogo Rau, Executive Vice President and Chief Information and Digital Officer at Eli Lilly &amp; Dan Priest, Chief AI Officer at PwC


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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/16ba83c8-4533-11f0-bedb-a7ec0ce49599/image/57f4d9821e25e6b12a69582479eec7d3.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>How is AI shaping the future of healthcare? In this episode, Nicholas speaks with Eli Lilly’s Diogo Rau about how AI is making it easier and faster to find life-saving drugs, and PwC Chief AI Officer Dan Priest about how the technology will transform healthcare experiences for patients in the next decade.



Featured Guests: Diogo Rau, Executive Vice President and Chief Information and Digital Officer at Eli Lilly &amp; Dan Priest, Chief AI Officer at PwC


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        <![CDATA[<p>How is AI shaping the future of healthcare? In this episode, Nicholas speaks with Eli Lilly’s Diogo Rau about how AI is making it easier and faster to find life-saving drugs, and PwC Chief AI Officer Dan Priest about how the technology will transform healthcare experiences for patients in the next decade.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Featured Guests: <strong>Diogo Rau</strong>, Executive Vice President and Chief Information and Digital Officer at Eli Lilly &amp; <strong>Dan Priest</strong>, Chief AI Officer at PwC</p>
<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2471</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Making Music With AI - with Nicholas Thompson and Holly Herndon</title>
      <description>AI is transforming the creative landscape, opening up possibilities for a new generation of artists. In this episode, Nicholas speaks with experimental musician and AI artist Holly Herndon about the intersection of human and machine creativity.



Featured Guest: Holly Herndon, co-founder of Spawning
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      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/32123334-3fe6-11f0-8514-4f5cb9e6e2cf/image/6163cbe8828f64b6b73deb798007c564.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>AI is transforming the creative landscape, opening up possibilities for a new generation of artists. In this episode, Nicholas speaks with experimental musician and AI artist Holly Herndon about the intersection of human and machine creativity.



Featured Guest: Holly Herndon, co-founder of Spawning
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        <![CDATA[<p>AI is transforming the creative landscape, opening up possibilities for a new generation of artists. In this episode, Nicholas speaks with experimental musician and AI artist Holly Herndon about the intersection of human and machine creativity.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Featured Guest: Holly Herndon, co-founder of Spawning</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2199</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Outsourcing Thought - with Nicholas Thompson and Nita Farahany</title>
      <description>AI is reshaping not just what we think but how we think. In this episode, Nicholas speaks with neuroethicist and legal scholar Nita Farahany about AI's impact on human cognition.



Featured Guest: Nita Farahany, Robinson O. Everett Distinguished Professor of Law &amp; Philosophy at Duke University and founding director of the Duke Initiative for Science &amp; Society
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      <pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2025 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>AI is reshaping not just what we think but how we think. In this episode, Nicholas speaks with neuroethicist and legal scholar Nita Farahany about AI's impact on human cognition.



Featured Guest: Nita Farahany, Robinson O. Everett Distinguished Professor of Law &amp; Philosophy at Duke University and founding director of the Duke Initiative for Science &amp; Society
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        <![CDATA[<p>AI is reshaping not just what we think but how we think. In this episode, Nicholas speaks with neuroethicist and legal scholar Nita Farahany about AI's impact on human cognition.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Featured Guest: Nita Farahany, Robinson O. Everett Distinguished Professor of Law &amp; Philosophy at Duke University and founding director of the Duke Initiative for Science &amp; Society</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2594</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Ethical Machines - with Nicholas Thompson and Audrey Tang</title>
      <description>In the right hands, AI can strengthen human collaboration and civic engagement. In this episode, Nicholas speaks with Taiwanese politician and programmer Audrey Tang about how the technology can be used to enhance democratic structures.



Featured Guest: Audrey Tang, Taiwan's Ambassador-at-Large for Cyber Affairs
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      <pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2025 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/43e964be-325e-11f0-a44d-bb0ee3ac82a2/image/c3e4c127929ce879e5a7e73b325fd8b6.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In the right hands, AI can strengthen human collaboration and civic engagement. In this episode, Nicholas speaks with Taiwanese politician and programmer Audrey Tang about how the technology can be used to enhance democratic structures.



Featured Guest: Audrey Tang, Taiwan's Ambassador-at-Large for Cyber Affairs
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In the right hands, AI can strengthen human collaboration and civic engagement. In this episode, Nicholas speaks with Taiwanese politician and programmer Audrey Tang about how the technology can be used to enhance democratic structures.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Featured Guest: Audrey Tang, Taiwan's Ambassador-at-Large for Cyber Affairs</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2851</itunes:duration>
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      <title>A Different Approach to AI - with Nicholas Thompson and Gary Marcus</title>
      <description>Despite the rapid advancements, today’s LLMs are far from infallible. In this episode, Nicholas speaks with author, cognitive scientist, and entrepreneur Gary Marcus, about the ways in which  current AI models fall short, and what Marcus believes is the better path forward. 



Featured Guest: Gary Marcus, Cognitive Scientist, Author, and AI Entrepreneur
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      <pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2025 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Despite the rapid advancements, today’s LLMs are far from infallible. In this episode, Nicholas speaks with author, cognitive scientist, and entrepreneur Gary Marcus, about the ways in which  current AI models fall short, and what Marcus believes is the better path forward. 



Featured Guest: Gary Marcus, Cognitive Scientist, Author, and AI Entrepreneur
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        <![CDATA[<p>Despite the rapid advancements, today’s LLMs are far from infallible. In this episode, Nicholas speaks with author, cognitive scientist, and entrepreneur Gary Marcus, about the ways in which  current AI models fall short, and what Marcus believes is the better path forward. </p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Featured Guest: Gary Marcus, Cognitive Scientist, Author, and AI Entrepreneur</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2641</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Season 2 Trailer </title>
      <description>A podcast series examining how AI is reshaping our world. Each episode features a conversation with a leading thinker who offers a fresh perspective on the far-reaching ethical, economic, and social implications of this technology.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2025 21:51:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>trailer</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>A podcast series examining how AI is reshaping our world. Each episode features a conversation with a leading thinker who offers a fresh perspective on the far-reaching ethical, economic, and social implications of this technology.
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        <![CDATA[<p>A podcast series examining how AI is reshaping our world. Each episode features a conversation with a leading thinker who offers a fresh perspective on the far-reaching ethical, economic, and social implications of this technology.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>86</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Drawing with Robots  - with Nicholas Thompson and Sougwen Chung</title>
      <link>https://www.theatlantic.com/sponsored/pwc-2024/the-most-interesting-thing-in-ai/3961/</link>
      <description>While many in the creative world approach AI with hesitation or fear, others embrace it as a collaborator, using it to expand the possibilities of artistic expression. This episode examines how AI is reshaping creativity, from enhancing traditional methods to challenging conventional notions of authorship, offering a glimpse into a future where humans and machines create together.

Featured Guest: Sougwen Chung, Artist and Founder of SCILICET
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      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2025 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/da7e6152-d284-11ef-8a33-b3cce7b72777/image/530d450b0a2603105142a43708568dc3.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>Will AI change the way we create and appreciate art?</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>While many in the creative world approach AI with hesitation or fear, others embrace it as a collaborator, using it to expand the possibilities of artistic expression. This episode examines how AI is reshaping creativity, from enhancing traditional methods to challenging conventional notions of authorship, offering a glimpse into a future where humans and machines create together.

Featured Guest: Sougwen Chung, Artist and Founder of SCILICET
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        <![CDATA[<p>While many in the creative world approach AI with hesitation or fear, others embrace it as a collaborator, using it to expand the possibilities of artistic expression. This episode examines how AI is reshaping creativity, from enhancing traditional methods to challenging conventional notions of authorship, offering a glimpse into a future where humans and machines create together.</p><p><br></p><p>Featured Guest: Sougwen Chung, Artist and Founder of SCILICET</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1847</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Sustainable Solutions - with Nicholas Thompson, Scott Likens and Heather Horn</title>
      <link>https://www.theatlantic.com/sponsored/pwc-2024/the-most-interesting-thing-in-ai/3961/</link>
      <description>The environmental cost of AI is significant, but so is the technology’s potential to help develop new sustainable solutions. This episode examines how AI may guide us to promising breakthroughs in energy creation, and how organizations can leverage the technology to track emissions, optimize resource usage, and support corporate ESG goals, offering insights into how businesses can embrace technology to drive meaningful environmental impact.

Featured Guests: Scott Likens, Chief AI Engineering Officer for PwC US and Global, and Heather Horn, PwC National Office Sustainability and Thought Leader
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      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2025 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>How can AI help address climate concerns?</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The environmental cost of AI is significant, but so is the technology’s potential to help develop new sustainable solutions. This episode examines how AI may guide us to promising breakthroughs in energy creation, and how organizations can leverage the technology to track emissions, optimize resource usage, and support corporate ESG goals, offering insights into how businesses can embrace technology to drive meaningful environmental impact.

Featured Guests: Scott Likens, Chief AI Engineering Officer for PwC US and Global, and Heather Horn, PwC National Office Sustainability and Thought Leader
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      <title>Incremental vs. Exponential - with Nicholas Thompson and Andrew Ng </title>
      <link>https://www.theatlantic.com/sponsored/pwc-2024/the-most-interesting-thing-in-ai/3961/</link>
      <description>AI is advancing at an unprecedented pace. Some experts are convinced that the world as we know it will change dramatically, while others anticipate a more steady evolution. This episode dives into the debate, separating hype from realistic predictions about the future of AI.

Featured Guest: Andrew Ng, Founder of DeepLearning.AI and Adjunct Professor at Stanford
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      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2025 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>How quickly will large language models evolve and change the world around us?</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>AI is advancing at an unprecedented pace. Some experts are convinced that the world as we know it will change dramatically, while others anticipate a more steady evolution. This episode dives into the debate, separating hype from realistic predictions about the future of AI.

Featured Guest: Andrew Ng, Founder of DeepLearning.AI and Adjunct Professor at Stanford
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        <![CDATA[<p>AI is advancing at an unprecedented pace. Some experts are convinced that the world as we know it will change dramatically, while others anticipate a more steady evolution. This episode dives into the debate, separating hype from realistic predictions about the future of AI.</p><p><br></p><p>Featured Guest: Andrew Ng, Founder of DeepLearning.AI and Adjunct Professor at Stanford</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Staying Competitive - with Nicholas Thompson and Dan Priest </title>
      <link>https://www.theatlantic.com/sponsored/pwc-2024/the-most-interesting-thing-in-ai/3961/</link>
      <description>AI is no longer just a tool for experimentation—it’s becoming a foundational technology that’s reshaping how businesses operate. This episode describes how companies are embedding AI into their products and services, exploring its potential to boost efficiency, to personalize customer experiences, and to potentially alter entire industries. From early adoption strategies to the rise of agent-based AI, the conversation highlights how leaders are leveraging AI to gain a competitive edge.

Featured Guest: Dan Priest, Chief AI Officer for PwC US
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      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2024 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/f44c0b94-bbc7-11ef-b74d-e3f800457cb1/image/7adb218238607033dc7a50ea35a1f6d4.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>How are business leaders adapting their workflows and strategies to the capabilities of AI?</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>AI is no longer just a tool for experimentation—it’s becoming a foundational technology that’s reshaping how businesses operate. This episode describes how companies are embedding AI into their products and services, exploring its potential to boost efficiency, to personalize customer experiences, and to potentially alter entire industries. From early adoption strategies to the rise of agent-based AI, the conversation highlights how leaders are leveraging AI to gain a competitive edge.

Featured Guest: Dan Priest, Chief AI Officer for PwC US
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        <![CDATA[<p>AI is no longer just a tool for experimentation—it’s becoming a foundational technology that’s reshaping how businesses operate. This episode describes how companies are embedding AI into their products and services, exploring its potential to boost efficiency, to personalize customer experiences, and to potentially alter entire industries. From early adoption strategies to the rise of agent-based AI, the conversation highlights how leaders are leveraging AI to gain a competitive edge.</p><p><br></p><p>Featured Guest: Dan Priest, Chief AI Officer for PwC US</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Deepfakes and Deception - with Nicholas Thompson and Eva Galperin</title>
      <link>https://www.theatlantic.com/sponsored/pwc-2024/the-most-interesting-thing-in-ai/3961/</link>
      <description>From voice-cloning scams to the creation of non-consensual nude imagery, the malevolent use of artificial intelligence poses myriad risks to truth, privacy, and personal safety. Cybersecurity expert Eva Galperin discusses how artificial intelligence is transforming digital threats, and how we need to work together to mitigate risk, preserve factual integrity, and shift social norms in the digital realm.

Featured Guest: Eva Galperin, Director of Cybersecurity at the Electronic Frontier Foundation
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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2024 13:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/18bdf4e0-b643-11ef-a51c-7f39755db008/image/3b7aa2fd0a12d88678401d141870fc10.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>How will AI-generated deepfakes affect our privacy, our democratic institutions, and our ability to determine what’s real? </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>From voice-cloning scams to the creation of non-consensual nude imagery, the malevolent use of artificial intelligence poses myriad risks to truth, privacy, and personal safety. Cybersecurity expert Eva Galperin discusses how artificial intelligence is transforming digital threats, and how we need to work together to mitigate risk, preserve factual integrity, and shift social norms in the digital realm.

Featured Guest: Eva Galperin, Director of Cybersecurity at the Electronic Frontier Foundation
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        <![CDATA[<p>From voice-cloning scams to the creation of non-consensual nude imagery, the malevolent use of artificial intelligence poses myriad risks to truth, privacy, and personal safety. Cybersecurity expert Eva Galperin discusses how artificial intelligence is transforming digital threats, and how we need to work together to mitigate risk, preserve factual integrity, and shift social norms in the digital realm.</p><p><br></p><p>Featured Guest: Eva Galperin, Director of Cybersecurity at the Electronic Frontier Foundation</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Machine Consciousness - with Nicholas Thompson and Geoffrey Hinton</title>
      <link>https://www.theatlantic.com/sponsored/pwc-2024/the-most-interesting-thing-in-ai/3961/</link>
      <description>What if the most advanced AI models	could think and respond in a way that felt like a human consciousness? How might that transform our understanding of intelligence itself? Some of the leading AI scientists believe that a super-intelligent form of this technology is only five to ten years away. This episode explores the idea of AI consciousness and delves into how the act of dreaming is connected to neural networks in unexpected ways. 

Featured guest: Geoffrey Hinton, Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of Toronto.
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      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2024 14:01:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Atlantic Re:think </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Is there any function of the human mind that machine learning can't replicate?</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>What if the most advanced AI models	could think and respond in a way that felt like a human consciousness? How might that transform our understanding of intelligence itself? Some of the leading AI scientists believe that a super-intelligent form of this technology is only five to ten years away. This episode explores the idea of AI consciousness and delves into how the act of dreaming is connected to neural networks in unexpected ways. 

Featured guest: Geoffrey Hinton, Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of Toronto.
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if the most advanced AI models	could think and respond in a way that felt like a human consciousness? How might that transform our understanding of intelligence itself? Some of the leading AI scientists believe that a super-intelligent form of this technology is only five to ten years away. This episode explores the idea of AI consciousness and delves into how the act of dreaming is connected to neural networks in unexpected ways. </p><p><br></p><p>Featured guest: Geoffrey Hinton, Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of Toronto.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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