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    <description>PRETEND is an investigative true crime podcast about real people who lie for a living — con artists, scammers, and the victims caught in their web.

Hosted by journalist Javier Leiva, PRETEND exposes the human psychology behind deception and fraud. Each episode follows a real case of manipulation — from financial scams and Ponzi schemes to digital hoaxes and emotional cons



PRETEND explains how and why deception works without shaming victims, combining ethical journalism with cinematic storytelling. 



Featured in lists of the best podcasts about con artists and scams, PRETEND investigates crimes of persuasion, trust, and betrayal. New episodes drop regularly with stories that reveal how manipulation shapes modern life, both online and off.



PRETEND is produced by Creative Babble, LLC. 



© 2026 Creative Babble LLC



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    <itunes:summary>PRETEND is an investigative true crime podcast about real people who lie for a living — con artists, scammers, and the victims caught in their web.

Hosted by journalist Javier Leiva, PRETEND exposes the human psychology behind deception and fraud. Each episode follows a real case of manipulation — from financial scams and Ponzi schemes to digital hoaxes and emotional cons



PRETEND explains how and why deception works without shaming victims, combining ethical journalism with cinematic storytelling. 



Featured in lists of the best podcasts about con artists and scams, PRETEND investigates crimes of persuasion, trust, and betrayal. New episodes drop regularly with stories that reveal how manipulation shapes modern life, both online and off.



PRETEND is produced by Creative Babble, LLC. 



© 2026 Creative Babble LLC



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      <![CDATA[<p> <strong>PRETEND</strong> is an investigative true crime podcast about real people who lie for a living — con artists, scammers, and the victims caught in their web.</p>
<p>Hosted by journalist <strong>Javier Leiva</strong>, PRETEND exposes the human psychology behind deception and fraud. Each episode follows a real case of manipulation — from financial scams and Ponzi schemes to digital hoaxes and emotional cons</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>PRETEND explains how and why deception works without shaming victims, combining ethical journalism with cinematic storytelling. </p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Featured in lists of the <strong>best podcasts about con artists and scams</strong>, PRETEND investigates crimes of persuasion, trust, and betrayal. New episodes drop regularly with stories that reveal how manipulation shapes modern life, both online and off.</p>
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<p>PRETEND is produced by Creative Babble, LLC. </p>
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      <title>I Beg Your Pardon part 6: The MAGA Granny</title>
      <description>On January 6th, 2021, Pam Hemphill followed the Proud Boys to the Capitol, got trampled by the mob, was carried out by a police officer named Joe, and recorded every minute of it. The internet called her the MAGA Granny. She did 60 days in federal prison. And then, slowly, she woke up.

When Trump issued sweeping pardons for more than 1,500 January 6th defendants, Pam did something almost no one else did. She said no. She filed a formal letter of rejection, returned to the Capitol to apologize to officers in person, received death threats, lost a 12-year relationship, and kept talking anyway.

In a series about people who got pardons they didn’t deserve, Pam Hemphill is the one who deserved consideration and walked away from it anyway.

You’ve heard about January 6th. You think you know the story. You don’t know it like this.

Quick Links

•  FBI Affidavit (Case 1:21-cr-00555-RCL): Read the original charging document https://jan6attack.com/DoJ/hemphill-pamela/1469486.pdf

•  Pam Hemphill’s Wikipedia Page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamela_Hemphill

•  Pam’s January 6th Testimony (PBS, January 6, 2026): Watch on PBS NewsHour

•  Trump’s Truth Social Post (via HuffPost): Read the coverage

•  Pam’s Pardon Rejection (NPR): Listen and read on NPR


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      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2026 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:summary>On January 6th, 2021, Pam Hemphill followed the Proud Boys to the Capitol, got trampled by the mob, was carried out by a police officer named Joe, and recorded every minute of it. The internet called her the MAGA Granny. She did 60 days in federal prison. And then, slowly, she woke up.

When Trump issued sweeping pardons for more than 1,500 January 6th defendants, Pam did something almost no one else did. She said no. She filed a formal letter of rejection, returned to the Capitol to apologize to officers in person, received death threats, lost a 12-year relationship, and kept talking anyway.

In a series about people who got pardons they didn’t deserve, Pam Hemphill is the one who deserved consideration and walked away from it anyway.

You’ve heard about January 6th. You think you know the story. You don’t know it like this.

Quick Links

•  FBI Affidavit (Case 1:21-cr-00555-RCL): Read the original charging document https://jan6attack.com/DoJ/hemphill-pamela/1469486.pdf

•  Pam Hemphill’s Wikipedia Page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamela_Hemphill

•  Pam’s January 6th Testimony (PBS, January 6, 2026): Watch on PBS NewsHour

•  Trump’s Truth Social Post (via HuffPost): Read the coverage

•  Pam’s Pardon Rejection (NPR): Listen and read on NPR


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<p>On January 6th, 2021, Pam Hemphill followed the Proud Boys to the Capitol, got trampled by the mob, was carried out by a police officer named Joe, and recorded every minute of it. The internet called her the MAGA Granny. She did 60 days in federal prison. And then, slowly, she woke up.</p>
<p>When Trump issued sweeping pardons for more than 1,500 January 6th defendants, Pam did something almost no one else did. She said no. She filed a formal letter of rejection, returned to the Capitol to apologize to officers in person, received death threats, lost a 12-year relationship, and kept talking anyway.</p>
<p>In a series about people who got pardons they didn’t deserve, Pam Hemphill is the one who deserved consideration and walked away from it anyway.</p>
<p>You’ve heard about January 6th. You think you know the story. You don’t know it like this.</p>
<p><strong>Quick Links</strong></p>
<p><strong>•  FBI Affidavit (Case 1:21-cr-00555-RCL): </strong><a href="https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/19943455/1/1/united-states-v-hemphill/"><u>Read the original charging document</u></a> https://jan6attack.com/DoJ/hemphill-pamela/1469486.pdf</p>
<p><strong>•  Pam Hemphill’s Wikipedia Page: </strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamela_Hemphill"><u>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamela_Hemphill</u></a></p>
<p><strong>•  Pam’s January 6th Testimony (PBS, January 6, 2026): </strong><a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/watch-maga-granny-pamela-hemphill-makes-emotional-apology-to-jan-6-officers"><u>Watch on PBS NewsHour</u></a></p>
<p><strong>•  Trump’s Truth Social Post (via HuffPost): </strong><a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jan-6-rioter-maga-granny-donald-trump_n_649abf45e4b0ccfd6dbeb625"><u>Read the coverage</u></a></p>
<p><strong>•  Pam’s Pardon Rejection (NPR): </strong><a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/01/23/g-s1-44457/pamela-hemphill-trump-pardon-jan-6-capitol-attack"><u>Listen and read on NPR</u></a></p>
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      <title>I Beg Your Pardon part 5</title>
      <description>My cousin spent 23 years in an Illinois prison for a crime she says she didn't know she was committing. She was 33 when a judge handed down a 60-year sentence. She would have been 93 before she saw the outside again.

This episode is personal.

In "Only God Pardons," we follow my cousin Iris (not her real name) through the Illinois clemency system: what it takes to apply, what the odds actually look like, and what it means to finally get out, only to discover that freedom comes with its own kind of sentence.

Along the way, we hear from Margaret Byrne, a Chicago attorney who has spent 45 years fighting for people inside Illinois prisons who shouldn't be there, including the women she represented through the Illinois Clemency Project for Battered Women. And we talk to Jeff Grant, attorney, minister, and co-founder of the White Collar Support Group, who argues that the pardon system doesn't go nearly far enough and who is pushing Congress to add federal expungement as a tool alongside clemency.

We also look at what's happening at the federal level, where a booming paid-pardon industry has taken root around the White House. According to federal lobbying disclosures, clients paid firms more than five million dollars in 2025 just to get their clemency cases in front of the president, eight times what was spent seeking pardons from the Biden administration. And then there's Rod Blagojevich, the former Illinois governor convicted of corruption, commuted by Trump in 2020 and fully pardoned in his second term, a man who turned the governor's office into a shakedown operation, pardoned by a president who turned clemency into currency for whoever could afford the cover charge.

Meanwhile, my cousin filed her petition the right way. Through the right channels. And waited.

In this episode:

Margaret Byrne, founder of the Illinois Clemency Project for Battered Women and veteran clemency attorney

Jeff Grant, attorney, minister, and co-founder of the White Collar Support Group and the Federal Expungement Initiative

Learn more:

White Collar Support Group: whitecollaradvice.org

Federal Expungement Initiative: contact Jeff Grant through the White Collar Support Group

Illinois Prisoner Review Board: illinois.gov/agencies/prisoner-review-board


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      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2026 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:summary>My cousin spent 23 years in an Illinois prison for a crime she says she didn't know she was committing. She was 33 when a judge handed down a 60-year sentence. She would have been 93 before she saw the outside again.

This episode is personal.

In "Only God Pardons," we follow my cousin Iris (not her real name) through the Illinois clemency system: what it takes to apply, what the odds actually look like, and what it means to finally get out, only to discover that freedom comes with its own kind of sentence.

Along the way, we hear from Margaret Byrne, a Chicago attorney who has spent 45 years fighting for people inside Illinois prisons who shouldn't be there, including the women she represented through the Illinois Clemency Project for Battered Women. And we talk to Jeff Grant, attorney, minister, and co-founder of the White Collar Support Group, who argues that the pardon system doesn't go nearly far enough and who is pushing Congress to add federal expungement as a tool alongside clemency.

We also look at what's happening at the federal level, where a booming paid-pardon industry has taken root around the White House. According to federal lobbying disclosures, clients paid firms more than five million dollars in 2025 just to get their clemency cases in front of the president, eight times what was spent seeking pardons from the Biden administration. And then there's Rod Blagojevich, the former Illinois governor convicted of corruption, commuted by Trump in 2020 and fully pardoned in his second term, a man who turned the governor's office into a shakedown operation, pardoned by a president who turned clemency into currency for whoever could afford the cover charge.

Meanwhile, my cousin filed her petition the right way. Through the right channels. And waited.

In this episode:

Margaret Byrne, founder of the Illinois Clemency Project for Battered Women and veteran clemency attorney

Jeff Grant, attorney, minister, and co-founder of the White Collar Support Group and the Federal Expungement Initiative

Learn more:

White Collar Support Group: whitecollaradvice.org

Federal Expungement Initiative: contact Jeff Grant through the White Collar Support Group

Illinois Prisoner Review Board: illinois.gov/agencies/prisoner-review-board


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>My cousin spent 23 years in an Illinois prison for a crime she says she didn't know she was committing. She was 33 when a judge handed down a 60-year sentence. She would have been 93 before she saw the outside again.</p>
<p>This episode is personal.</p>
<p>In "Only God Pardons," we follow my cousin Iris (not her real name) through the Illinois clemency system: what it takes to apply, what the odds actually look like, and what it means to finally get out, only to discover that freedom comes with its own kind of sentence.</p>
<p>Along the way, we hear from Margaret Byrne, a Chicago attorney who has spent 45 years fighting for people inside Illinois prisons who shouldn't be there, including the women she represented through the Illinois Clemency Project for Battered Women. And we talk to Jeff Grant, attorney, minister, and co-founder of the White Collar Support Group, who argues that the pardon system doesn't go nearly far enough and who is pushing Congress to add federal expungement as a tool alongside clemency.</p>
<p>We also look at what's happening at the federal level, where a booming paid-pardon industry has taken root around the White House. According to federal lobbying disclosures, clients paid firms more than five million dollars in 2025 just to get their clemency cases in front of the president, eight times what was spent seeking pardons from the Biden administration. And then there's Rod Blagojevich, the former Illinois governor convicted of corruption, commuted by Trump in 2020 and fully pardoned in his second term, a man who turned the governor's office into a shakedown operation, pardoned by a president who turned clemency into currency for whoever could afford the cover charge.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, my cousin filed her petition the right way. Through the right channels. And waited.</p>
<p><strong>In this episode:</strong></p>
<p>Margaret Byrne, founder of the Illinois Clemency Project for Battered Women and veteran clemency attorney</p>
<p>Jeff Grant, attorney, minister, and co-founder of the White Collar Support Group and the Federal Expungement Initiative</p>
<p><strong>Learn more:</strong></p>
<p>White Collar Support Group: <a href="https://whitecollaradvice.org">whitecollaradvice.org</a></p>
<p>Federal Expungement Initiative: contact Jeff Grant through the White Collar Support Group</p>
<p>Illinois Prisoner Review Board: illinois.gov/agencies/prisoner-review-board</p>
<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>I Beg Your Pardon part 4</title>
      <description>Content Warning: This episode contains detailed descriptions of nursing home neglect, including accounts of residents found in unsanitary conditions. Listener discretion is advised.

You're about to hear the story of a man who built a nursing home empire from a tiny office above a pizza parlor in New Jersey.

His name is Joseph Schwartz. At its peak, his company Skyline Healthcare owned or operated more than 100 facilities across eleven states. What happened inside those facilities (the rationed diapers, the unpaid bills, the maggots, the residents left without food or clean water) is one of the cruelest stories of corporate neglect you will hear this year.

When Schwartz finally got convicted of defrauding the government out of $38 million, he started making calls.

In this episode, we'll follow the money from a nursing home empire to a presidential pardon, and then to a violent extortion plot that ended with an FBI arrest in Midtown Manhattan.



EPISODE RESOURCES &amp; SHOW NOTES

ARTICLES &amp; INVESTIGATIONS

Brookings Register: Wave of SD nursing home closures hitting hardest in rural small towns URL: https://www.brookingsregister.com/article/wave-of-sd-nursing-home-closures-hitting-hardest-in-rural-small-towns

Arkansas Advocate: Nursing home owner pardoned by Trump ordered to serve state sentence URL: https://arkansasadvocate.com

Arkansas Democrat-Gazette (2019): Firm's fall risked care in homes for frail URL: https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2019/apr/28/firm-s-fall-risked-care-homes-frail-201/

Arkansas Democrat-Gazette (2025): Judge orders former nursing home magnate to prison URL: https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2025/dec/18/arkansas-judge-orders-former-nursing-home-magnate/

The Washington Post: Joseph Schwartz Trump Pardon Fraud (Coverage of the $960k lobbying effort) URL: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/11/23/joseph-schwartz-trump-pardon-fraud/

The New York Times: Pardon Industry Offers Rich Offenders a Path to Trump

The New York Times: Trump Pardons: Lobbyist Charged in Extortion Attempt

Philadelphia Coverage: Skyline Healthcare: Scenes from the collapse of a nursing-home operator by Harold Brubaker

BROADCAST COVERAGE

NBC Nightly News: Nursing Home Chain Collapses Amid Allegation Of Unpaid Bills, Poor Care

KELOLAND News: Skyline Healthcare owner facing federal charges

PRIMARY SOURCE DOCUMENTS

State Petition: Attorney General Tim Griffin's Petition to force Schwartz to serve his state sentence URL: https://arkansasadvocate.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Arkansas-v-Schwartz-12022025-Motion.pdf

State Civil Lawsuit: State of South Dakota ex rel. Jason Ravnsborg v. Joseph Schwartz, et al. (Case No. 32CIV22-000010)

Federal Criminal Complaint: U.S. v. Joshua Nass (Attempted extortion affidavit, Case No. 26-MJ-54)

Lobbying Disclosures: Federal filings for Joshua Nass (Merkava Strategies Corporation) and Jack Burkman (J.M. Burkman &amp; Associates)


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      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2026 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Content Warning: This episode contains detailed descriptions of nursing home neglect, including accounts of residents found in unsanitary conditions. Listener discretion is advised.

You're about to hear the story of a man who built a nursing home empire from a tiny office above a pizza parlor in New Jersey.

His name is Joseph Schwartz. At its peak, his company Skyline Healthcare owned or operated more than 100 facilities across eleven states. What happened inside those facilities (the rationed diapers, the unpaid bills, the maggots, the residents left without food or clean water) is one of the cruelest stories of corporate neglect you will hear this year.

When Schwartz finally got convicted of defrauding the government out of $38 million, he started making calls.

In this episode, we'll follow the money from a nursing home empire to a presidential pardon, and then to a violent extortion plot that ended with an FBI arrest in Midtown Manhattan.



EPISODE RESOURCES &amp; SHOW NOTES

ARTICLES &amp; INVESTIGATIONS

Brookings Register: Wave of SD nursing home closures hitting hardest in rural small towns URL: https://www.brookingsregister.com/article/wave-of-sd-nursing-home-closures-hitting-hardest-in-rural-small-towns

Arkansas Advocate: Nursing home owner pardoned by Trump ordered to serve state sentence URL: https://arkansasadvocate.com

Arkansas Democrat-Gazette (2019): Firm's fall risked care in homes for frail URL: https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2019/apr/28/firm-s-fall-risked-care-homes-frail-201/

Arkansas Democrat-Gazette (2025): Judge orders former nursing home magnate to prison URL: https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2025/dec/18/arkansas-judge-orders-former-nursing-home-magnate/

The Washington Post: Joseph Schwartz Trump Pardon Fraud (Coverage of the $960k lobbying effort) URL: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/11/23/joseph-schwartz-trump-pardon-fraud/

The New York Times: Pardon Industry Offers Rich Offenders a Path to Trump

The New York Times: Trump Pardons: Lobbyist Charged in Extortion Attempt

Philadelphia Coverage: Skyline Healthcare: Scenes from the collapse of a nursing-home operator by Harold Brubaker

BROADCAST COVERAGE

NBC Nightly News: Nursing Home Chain Collapses Amid Allegation Of Unpaid Bills, Poor Care

KELOLAND News: Skyline Healthcare owner facing federal charges

PRIMARY SOURCE DOCUMENTS

State Petition: Attorney General Tim Griffin's Petition to force Schwartz to serve his state sentence URL: https://arkansasadvocate.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Arkansas-v-Schwartz-12022025-Motion.pdf

State Civil Lawsuit: State of South Dakota ex rel. Jason Ravnsborg v. Joseph Schwartz, et al. (Case No. 32CIV22-000010)

Federal Criminal Complaint: U.S. v. Joshua Nass (Attempted extortion affidavit, Case No. 26-MJ-54)

Lobbying Disclosures: Federal filings for Joshua Nass (Merkava Strategies Corporation) and Jack Burkman (J.M. Burkman &amp; Associates)


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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>Content Warning:</strong> This episode contains detailed descriptions of nursing home neglect, including accounts of residents found in unsanitary conditions. Listener discretion is advised.</p>
<p>You're about to hear the story of a man who built a nursing home empire from a tiny office above a pizza parlor in New Jersey.</p>
<p>His name is Joseph Schwartz. At its peak, his company Skyline Healthcare owned or operated more than 100 facilities across eleven states. What happened inside those facilities (the rationed diapers, the unpaid bills, the maggots, the residents left without food or clean water) is one of the cruelest stories of corporate neglect you will hear this year.</p>
<p>When Schwartz finally got convicted of defrauding the government out of $38 million, he started making calls.</p>
<p>In this episode, we'll follow the money from a nursing home empire to a presidential pardon, and then to a violent extortion plot that ended with an FBI arrest in Midtown Manhattan.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>EPISODE RESOURCES &amp; SHOW NOTES</p>
<p>ARTICLES &amp; INVESTIGATIONS</p>
<p>Brookings Register: Wave of SD nursing home closures hitting hardest in rural small towns URL: <a href="https://www.brookingsregister.com/article/wave-of-sd-nursing-home-closures-hitting-hardest-in-rural-small-towns">https://www.brookingsregister.com/article/wave-of-sd-nursing-home-closures-hitting-hardest-in-rural-small-towns</a></p>
<p>Arkansas Advocate: Nursing home owner pardoned by Trump ordered to serve state sentence URL: <a href="https://arkansasadvocate.com">https://arkansasadvocate.com</a></p>
<p>Arkansas Democrat-Gazette (2019): Firm's fall risked care in homes for frail URL: <a href="https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2019/apr/28/firm-s-fall-risked-care-homes-frail-201/">https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2019/apr/28/firm-s-fall-risked-care-homes-frail-201/</a></p>
<p>Arkansas Democrat-Gazette (2025): Judge orders former nursing home magnate to prison URL: <a href="https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2025/dec/18/arkansas-judge-orders-former-nursing-home-magnate/">https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2025/dec/18/arkansas-judge-orders-former-nursing-home-magnate/</a></p>
<p>The Washington Post: Joseph Schwartz Trump Pardon Fraud (Coverage of the $960k lobbying effort) URL: <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/11/23/joseph-schwartz-trump-pardon-fraud/">https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/11/23/joseph-schwartz-trump-pardon-fraud/</a></p>
<p>The New York Times: Pardon Industry Offers Rich Offenders a Path to Trump</p>
<p>The New York Times: Trump Pardons: Lobbyist Charged in Extortion Attempt</p>
<p>Philadelphia Coverage: Skyline Healthcare: Scenes from the collapse of a nursing-home operator by Harold Brubaker</p>
<p>BROADCAST COVERAGE</p>
<p>NBC Nightly News: Nursing Home Chain Collapses Amid Allegation Of Unpaid Bills, Poor Care</p>
<p>KELOLAND News: Skyline Healthcare owner facing federal charges</p>
<p>PRIMARY SOURCE DOCUMENTS</p>
<p>State Petition: Attorney General Tim Griffin's Petition to force Schwartz to serve his state sentence URL: <a href="https://arkansasadvocate.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Arkansas-v-Schwartz-12022025-Motion.pdf">https://arkansasadvocate.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/Arkansas-v-Schwartz-12022025-Motion.pdf</a></p>
<p>State Civil Lawsuit: State of South Dakota ex rel. Jason Ravnsborg v. Joseph Schwartz, et al. (Case No. 32CIV22-000010)</p>
<p>Federal Criminal Complaint: U.S. v. Joshua Nass (Attempted extortion affidavit, Case No. 26-MJ-54)</p>
<p>Lobbying Disclosures: Federal filings for Joshua Nass (Merkava Strategies Corporation) and Jack Burkman (J.M. Burkman &amp; Associates)</p>
<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Introducing Season Seven of Nobody Should Believe Me</title>
      <description>Introducing Season Seven of Nobody Should Believe Me. Andrea revisits the case of Maya Kowalski—the story at the center of the Netflix film Take Care of Maya–and the family’s high-profile lawsuit against Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital. What became widely framed as a story about “medical kidnapping” began when hospital staff reported suspected medical child abuse after Maya arrived with a history of extreme ketamine treatments. 

How did a case of horrific abuse become a story about evil doctors kidnapping children?



Listen to Season 7 on Spotify:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/3l3MDM959yf6f4fEbw4Dmz?si=6dba402bffa8435b
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      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2026 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>25</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Introducing Season Seven of Nobody Should Believe Me. Andrea revisits the case of Maya Kowalski—the story at the center of the Netflix film Take Care of Maya–and the family’s high-profile lawsuit against Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital. What became widely framed as a story about “medical kidnapping” began when hospital staff reported suspected medical child abuse after Maya arrived with a history of extreme ketamine treatments. 

How did a case of horrific abuse become a story about evil doctors kidnapping children?



Listen to Season 7 on Spotify:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/3l3MDM959yf6f4fEbw4Dmz?si=6dba402bffa8435b
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Introducing Season Seven of Nobody Should Believe Me. Andrea revisits the case of Maya Kowalski—the story at the center of the Netflix film <em>Take Care of Maya</em>–and the family’s high-profile lawsuit against Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital. What became widely framed as a story about “medical kidnapping” began when hospital staff reported suspected medical child abuse after Maya arrived with a history of extreme ketamine treatments. </p>
<p>How did a case of horrific abuse become a story about evil doctors kidnapping children?</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Listen to Season 7 on Spotify:</p>
<p>https://open.spotify.com/episode/3l3MDM959yf6f4fEbw4Dmz?si=6dba402bffa8435b</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>I Beg Your Pardon part 3</title>
      <description>You know that little bottle of 5-Hour Energy sitting on the counter of almost every gas station in America? Someone was faking it. Millions of bottles, mixed by hand in a filthy warehouse by day laborers with no training, no sanitation licenses, and no recipe. Just plastic barrels, canoe paddles, and industrial chemicals that may not have been approved for human consumption.



In this episode, you meet Geoffrey Potter, an anti-counterfeiting attorney at Patterson, Belknap, Webb and Tyler who only takes cases where the fake product can kill you. Think of him as a private prosecutor with powers most people don't even know a private attorney can have. He helped bring down one of the most sophisticated food counterfeiting operations in US history.



You'll also learn what happened after the convictions. How a woman with no obvious connection to the President of the United States managed to secure not one, but two acts of presidential clemency. And how, just 42 days after walking out of prison, she was already running a $59 million scheme in the background.



This is the story of Adriana Camberos — a woman who was convicted twice, freed twice, and is still out there. This series is called I Beg Your Pardon for a reason.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2026 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>25</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>You know that little bottle of 5-Hour Energy sitting on the counter of almost every gas station in America? Someone was faking it. Millions of bottles, mixed by hand in a filthy warehouse by day laborers with no training, no sanitation licenses, and no recipe. Just plastic barrels, canoe paddles, and industrial chemicals that may not have been approved for human consumption.



In this episode, you meet Geoffrey Potter, an anti-counterfeiting attorney at Patterson, Belknap, Webb and Tyler who only takes cases where the fake product can kill you. Think of him as a private prosecutor with powers most people don't even know a private attorney can have. He helped bring down one of the most sophisticated food counterfeiting operations in US history.



You'll also learn what happened after the convictions. How a woman with no obvious connection to the President of the United States managed to secure not one, but two acts of presidential clemency. And how, just 42 days after walking out of prison, she was already running a $59 million scheme in the background.



This is the story of Adriana Camberos — a woman who was convicted twice, freed twice, and is still out there. This series is called I Beg Your Pardon for a reason.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>You know that little bottle of 5-Hour Energy sitting on the counter of almost every gas station in America? Someone was faking it. Millions of bottles, mixed by hand in a filthy warehouse by day laborers with no training, no sanitation licenses, and no recipe. Just plastic barrels, canoe paddles, and industrial chemicals that may not have been approved for human consumption.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>In this episode, you meet Geoffrey Potter, an anti-counterfeiting attorney at Patterson, Belknap, Webb and Tyler who only takes cases where the fake product can kill you. Think of him as a private prosecutor with powers most people don't even know a private attorney can have. He helped bring down one of the most sophisticated food counterfeiting operations in US history.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>You'll also learn what happened after the convictions. How a woman with no obvious connection to the President of the United States managed to secure not one, but two acts of presidential clemency. And how, just 42 days after walking out of prison, she was already running a $59 million scheme in the background.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>This is the story of Adriana Camberos — a woman who was convicted twice, freed twice, and is still out there. This series is called I Beg Your Pardon for a reason.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>I Beg Your Pardon part 2</title>
      <description>Twelve days. That’s how long David Gentile spent in federal prison for a $1.8 billion fraud that wiped out the retirement savings of 17,000 people.

On Thanksgiving 2025, President Trump signed a one-page clemency grant, commuting Gentile’s seven-year sentence to time served and erasing a $15 million restitution order in the process.

In this episode, we talk to one of those 17,000 victims, CarolAnn Tutera, a 70-year-old still working because she can’t afford not to. We also talk to securities fraud attorney Adam Gana and Ponzi Playbook co-host Neal McTighe about how the scheme worked, what the pardon means, and what it says about the current climate for white collar crime.



CarolAnn Tutera

GPB Capital investor and CEO of Tutera Medical

tuteramedical.com

Adam Gana

Securities fraud attorney, Gana LLP

ganalawfirm.com/adam-gana

Neal McTighe

Co-host, Ponzi Playbook podcast

Ponzi Playbook on Spotify



The Conviction and Sentencing

DOJ Press Release

justice.gov

The Blueprint of the Fraud

SEC Civil Complaint

sec.gov

The White House Response

Forbes Breaking News — search: “Karoline Leavitt Asked About Trump’s Commutation Of Private Equity CEO’s Fraud Sentence”



00:00  CarolAnn’s Story

04:06  David Gentile’s Promise

04:38  I Beg Your Pardon

07:02  How a Ponzi Scheme Works

14:21  The Smoking Gun Emails

15:47  CarolAnn’s $400K

16:42  The Takedown

18:38  The Verdict

19:22  The Pardon

20:06  The White House Response

23:12  Restitution Wiped Out

29:51  The Pay-to-Play Pattern

33:41  The Perfect Storm

GuestsResourcesChapters36:44  Ponzi Playbook Returns
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2026 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>25</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Twelve days. That’s how long David Gentile spent in federal prison for a $1.8 billion fraud that wiped out the retirement savings of 17,000 people.

On Thanksgiving 2025, President Trump signed a one-page clemency grant, commuting Gentile’s seven-year sentence to time served and erasing a $15 million restitution order in the process.

In this episode, we talk to one of those 17,000 victims, CarolAnn Tutera, a 70-year-old still working because she can’t afford not to. We also talk to securities fraud attorney Adam Gana and Ponzi Playbook co-host Neal McTighe about how the scheme worked, what the pardon means, and what it says about the current climate for white collar crime.



CarolAnn Tutera

GPB Capital investor and CEO of Tutera Medical

tuteramedical.com

Adam Gana

Securities fraud attorney, Gana LLP

ganalawfirm.com/adam-gana

Neal McTighe

Co-host, Ponzi Playbook podcast

Ponzi Playbook on Spotify



The Conviction and Sentencing

DOJ Press Release

justice.gov

The Blueprint of the Fraud

SEC Civil Complaint

sec.gov

The White House Response

Forbes Breaking News — search: “Karoline Leavitt Asked About Trump’s Commutation Of Private Equity CEO’s Fraud Sentence”



00:00  CarolAnn’s Story

04:06  David Gentile’s Promise

04:38  I Beg Your Pardon

07:02  How a Ponzi Scheme Works

14:21  The Smoking Gun Emails

15:47  CarolAnn’s $400K

16:42  The Takedown

18:38  The Verdict

19:22  The Pardon

20:06  The White House Response

23:12  Restitution Wiped Out

29:51  The Pay-to-Play Pattern

33:41  The Perfect Storm

GuestsResourcesChapters36:44  Ponzi Playbook Returns
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Twelve days. That’s how long David Gentile spent in federal prison for a $1.8 billion fraud that wiped out the retirement savings of 17,000 people.</p>
<p>On Thanksgiving 2025, President Trump signed a one-page clemency grant, commuting Gentile’s seven-year sentence to time served and erasing a $15 million restitution order in the process.</p>
<p>In this episode, we talk to one of those 17,000 victims, CarolAnn Tutera, a 70-year-old still working because she can’t afford not to. We also talk to securities fraud attorney Adam Gana and Ponzi Playbook co-host Neal McTighe about how the scheme worked, what the pardon means, and what it says about the current climate for white collar crime.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>CarolAnn Tutera</strong></p>
<p>GPB Capital investor and CEO of Tutera Medical</p>
<p><a href="https://tuteramedical.com/unstoppable-an-exclusive-interview-with-sottopelle-ceo-carolann-tutera/"><u>tuteramedical.com</u></a></p>
<p><strong>Adam Gana</strong></p>
<p>Securities fraud attorney, Gana LLP</p>
<p><a href="https://www.ganalawfirm.com/adam-gana.html"><u>ganalawfirm.com/adam-gana</u></a></p>
<p><strong>Neal McTighe</strong></p>
<p>Co-host, Ponzi Playbook podcast</p>
<p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1wIkBBOxNjFNx18iqFW5WO"><u>Ponzi Playbook on Spotify</u></a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>The Conviction and Sentencing</strong></p>
<p>DOJ Press Release</p>
<p><a href="https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/former-private-equity-executives-sentenced-prison"><u>justice.gov</u></a></p>
<p><strong>The Blueprint of the Fraud</strong></p>
<p>SEC Civil Complaint</p>
<p><a href="https://www.sec.gov/litigation/complaints/2021/comp-pr2021-24.pdf"><u>sec.gov</u></a></p>
<p><strong>The White House Response</strong></p>
<p>Forbes Breaking News — search: “Karoline Leavitt Asked About Trump’s Commutation Of Private Equity CEO’s Fraud Sentence”</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>00:00</strong>  CarolAnn’s Story</p>
<p><strong>04:06</strong>  David Gentile’s Promise</p>
<p><strong>04:38</strong>  I Beg Your Pardon</p>
<p><strong>07:02</strong>  How a Ponzi Scheme Works</p>
<p><strong>14:21</strong>  The Smoking Gun Emails</p>
<p><strong>15:47</strong>  CarolAnn’s $400K</p>
<p><strong>16:42</strong>  The Takedown</p>
<p><strong>18:38</strong>  The Verdict</p>
<p><strong>19:22</strong>  The Pardon</p>
<p><strong>20:06</strong>  The White House Response</p>
<p><strong>23:12</strong>  Restitution Wiped Out</p>
<p><strong>29:51</strong>  The Pay-to-Play Pattern</p>
<p><strong>33:41</strong>  The Perfect Storm</p>
<p><strong>GuestsResourcesChapters36:44</strong>  Ponzi Playbook Returns</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>I Beg Your Pardon part 1</title>
      <description>Jerry Bush was a plumber from Virginia with fourteen employees, a wife battling cancer, and a business his father built from nothing. When a big construction job left him waiting on $350,000 he'd already earned, he did what you'd probably do. He looked for a loan.

The man who picked up the phone was named Jonathan Braun.

Before Braun found Jerry, he was running a half-billion dollar international drug smuggling operation. After he found Jerry, he froze his bank account, drained his father's retirement, took money from his 16-year-old son, and told Jerry his only way out was to win the lottery or die.

And then things got worse.

By the time it was over, Jerry Bush had lost his business, his savings, and nearly his life. Jonathan Braun had a Ferrari, a Lamborghini, a personal butler, and a very powerful friend.

What happens next will make you question everything you think you know about who the justice system is actually designed to protect and who it leaves behind.

I Beg Your Pardon is a new investigative series from PRETEND.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2026 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>25</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>Jerry Bush was a plumber from Virginia with fourteen employees, a wife battling cancer, and a business his father built from nothing. When a big construction job left him waiting on $350,000 he'd already earned, he did what you'd probably do. He looked for a loan.

The man who picked up the phone was named Jonathan Braun.

Before Braun found Jerry, he was running a half-billion dollar international drug smuggling operation. After he found Jerry, he froze his bank account, drained his father's retirement, took money from his 16-year-old son, and told Jerry his only way out was to win the lottery or die.

And then things got worse.

By the time it was over, Jerry Bush had lost his business, his savings, and nearly his life. Jonathan Braun had a Ferrari, a Lamborghini, a personal butler, and a very powerful friend.

What happens next will make you question everything you think you know about who the justice system is actually designed to protect and who it leaves behind.

I Beg Your Pardon is a new investigative series from PRETEND.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Jerry Bush was a plumber from Virginia with fourteen employees, a wife battling cancer, and a business his father built from nothing. When a big construction job left him waiting on $350,000 he'd already earned, he did what you'd probably do. He looked for a loan.</p>
<p>The man who picked up the phone was named Jonathan Braun.</p>
<p>Before Braun found Jerry, he was running a half-billion dollar international drug smuggling operation. After he found Jerry, he froze his bank account, drained his father's retirement, took money from his 16-year-old son, and told Jerry his only way out was to win the lottery or die.</p>
<p>And then things got worse.</p>
<p>By the time it was over, Jerry Bush had lost his business, his savings, and nearly his life. Jonathan Braun had a Ferrari, a Lamborghini, a personal butler, and a very powerful friend.</p>
<p>What happens next will make you question everything you think you know about who the justice system is actually designed to protect and who it leaves behind.</p>
<p><em>I Beg Your Pardon</em> is a new investigative series from PRETEND.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey Revisited</title>
      <description>CONTENT WARNING: Graphic content. Listener discretion is advised.

 

Who’s Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey — Revisited

A lot of people ask: where should I start if I just discovered PRETEND? The answer is always LaDonna.

It’s been almost two years since the first episode of Who’s Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey dropped — and this one is still mind-blowing. Whether you’re a first-time listener or coming back to revisit, this is the place to start.

In this episode, we’re replaying Part One. It’s a hell of an introduction.

🎧 Want the full series? We’ve put together a Spotify playlist with all the episodes and updates, tidied up in one place. Check it out below.

➡️ Listen to the full LaDonna Humphrey playlist on Spotify

 

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2LOnqAGe8D4JQ4bAwjGn9P?si=54f21cbedfb640f8






Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2026 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>25</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>CONTENT WARNING: Graphic content. Listener discretion is advised.

 

Who’s Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey — Revisited

A lot of people ask: where should I start if I just discovered PRETEND? The answer is always LaDonna.

It’s been almost two years since the first episode of Who’s Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey dropped — and this one is still mind-blowing. Whether you’re a first-time listener or coming back to revisit, this is the place to start.

In this episode, we’re replaying Part One. It’s a hell of an introduction.

🎧 Want the full series? We’ve put together a Spotify playlist with all the episodes and updates, tidied up in one place. Check it out below.

➡️ Listen to the full LaDonna Humphrey playlist on Spotify

 

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2LOnqAGe8D4JQ4bAwjGn9P?si=54f21cbedfb640f8






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<p>Who’s Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey — Revisited</p>
<p>A lot of people ask: where should I start if I just discovered PRETEND? The answer is always LaDonna.</p>
<p>It’s been almost two years since the first episode of <em>Who’s Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey</em> dropped — and this one is still mind-blowing. Whether you’re a first-time listener or coming back to revisit, this is the place to start.</p>
<p>In this episode, we’re replaying Part One. It’s a hell of an introduction.</p>
<p>🎧 Want the full series? We’ve put together a Spotify playlist with all the episodes and updates, tidied up in one place. Check it out below.</p>
<p>➡️<a href="%20%20https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2LOnqAGe8D4JQ4bAwjGn9P?si=54f21cbedfb640f8"> <u>Listen to the full LaDonna Humphrey playlist on Spotify</u></a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2LOnqAGe8D4JQ4bAwjGn9P?si=54f21cbedfb640f8</p>
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      <title>Update on “The Hand That Held Me”</title>
      <description>I want to share a quick update about the "Hand That Held Me" series.

Due to some recent developments, I’ve made the decision to postpone the release. I know many of you were expecting it, and I’m sorry for the change. These situations can be complex, and I want to make sure I handle the story the right way.

This also leaves an unexpected three-week gap in the schedule while I prepare the next series. I appreciate your patience as I work to queue up what’s coming next.

Thank you, as always, for listening and for trusting the work.

— Javier
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      <itunes:season>25</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>I want to share a quick update about the "Hand That Held Me" series.

Due to some recent developments, I’ve made the decision to postpone the release. I know many of you were expecting it, and I’m sorry for the change. These situations can be complex, and I want to make sure I handle the story the right way.

This also leaves an unexpected three-week gap in the schedule while I prepare the next series. I appreciate your patience as I work to queue up what’s coming next.

Thank you, as always, for listening and for trusting the work.

— Javier
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        <![CDATA[<p>I want to share a quick update about the "Hand That Held Me" series.</p>
<p>Due to some recent developments, I’ve made the decision to postpone the release. I know many of you were expecting it, and I’m sorry for the change. These situations can be complex, and I want to make sure I handle the story the right way.</p>
<p>This also leaves an unexpected three-week gap in the schedule while I prepare the next series. I appreciate your patience as I work to queue up what’s coming next.</p>
<p>Thank you, as always, for listening and for trusting the work.</p>
<p>— Javier</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>The Pests part 3 &amp; 4 Revisited </title>
      <description>We conclude one of the most disturbing series ever covered on this podcast. Here are parts 3 and 4 of the Pests. 


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      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2026 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:summary>We conclude one of the most disturbing series ever covered on this podcast. Here are parts 3 and 4 of the Pests. 


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        <![CDATA[<p>We conclude one of the most disturbing series ever covered on this podcast. Here are parts 3 and 4 of the Pests. </p>
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      <title>The Pests part 1 &amp; 2 Revisited</title>
      <description>This week, we're revisiting one of the most terrifying series ever produced for PRETEND. It's about a gang-stalking internet group known as The Pests. 



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      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2026 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>25</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>This week, we're revisiting one of the most terrifying series ever produced for PRETEND. It's about a gang-stalking internet group known as The Pests. 



Content Advisory: This episode is disturbing and includes language and topics not suitable for all audiences. 
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, we're revisiting one of the most terrifying series ever produced for PRETEND. It's about a gang-stalking internet group known as The Pests. </p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Content Advisory: This episode is disturbing and includes language and topics not suitable for all audiences. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>2505: State of Corruption: The School That Didn't Exist</title>
      <description>Look, I'm not anti-private school. You want your kid to learn in an environment that matches your beliefs? Cool. To each their own. But should your neighbors be paying for it? North Carolina is funneling half a billion dollars into private schools with almost zero oversight. 87% of new voucher money is going to families who were already paying for private school. Meanwhile, public schools are losing funding and teachers are getting paid near the bottom in the country. In this episode, I talk to a former student, a policy researcher, and a reporter who couldn't find a school that was cashing state checks. Spoiler: it took her seven addresses to track it down.



Stephen Cordes — Former student at the Word of Faith Christian School in Spindale, NC

Kris Nordstrom — Senior Policy Analyst, NC Justice Center Education &amp; Law Project https://www.ncjustice.org/author/kris-nordstrom/

Blair Reeves — Executive Director, Carolina Forward https://carolinaforward.org/about/

Ann Doss Helms — Former Education Reporter, WFAE (Charlotte's NPR station).  22 years covering education in Charlotte. https://www.wfae.org/people/ann-doss-helms

Kris Nordstrom's voucher discrepancy analysis (NC Justice Center) https://www.ncjustice.org/analysis-nc-private-school-voucher-program/

Ann Doss Helms' reporting on TAS Academy (WFAE):


  
Charlotte private school had more vouchers than students: https://www.wfae.org/education/2023-06-27/charlotte-private-school-had-more-vouchers-than-students-and-wheres-the-building



  
The elusive voucher school — some answers and lingering questions: https://www.wfae.org/education/2023-08-01/charlottes-elusive-voucher-school-some-answers-and-lingering-questions



  
Elusive voucher school has a new address in Harrisburg: https://www.wfae.org/education/2024-03-07/elusive-voucher-school-has-a-new-address-in-harrisburg-and-students-are-there




Carolina Forward https://carolinaforward.org

NC Justice Center — Education &amp; Law Project https://www.ncjustice.org

PRETEND Season 3 — Word of Faith Fellowship https://www.pretendradio.org

If you live in North Carolina and you have an opinion about how your tax dollars are being spent on private school vouchers, let your legislators know. They work for you.

Find your NC state representative and senator: https://www.ncleg.gov/findyourlegislators

Call the NC General Assembly directly: 919-733-4111 (ask to speak to your representative or senator)

Public Schools First NC also has a full contact list with emails for every member of the General Assembly, including education committee members: https://publicschoolsfirstnc.org/engage/contact-elected-officials/

You don't have to live in North Carolina to care about this. If your state has a voucher program, find out where the money's going. Ask the questions nobody else is asking.

Got a story idea? Hit me up: javier@pretendradio.org

GuestsResources &amp; Further ReadingMake Your Voice HeardContact
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      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2026 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>State of Corruption: The School That Didn't Exist</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>25</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Look, I'm not anti-private school. You want your kid to learn in an environment that matches your beliefs? Cool. To each their own. But should your neighbors be paying for it? North Carolina is funneling half a billion dollars into private schools with almost zero oversight. 87% of new voucher money is going to families who were already paying for private school. Meanwhile, public schools are losing funding and teachers are getting paid near the bottom in the country. In this episode, I talk to a former student, a policy researcher, and a reporter who couldn't find a school that was cashing state checks. Spoiler: it took her seven addresses to track it down.



Stephen Cordes — Former student at the Word of Faith Christian School in Spindale, NC

Kris Nordstrom — Senior Policy Analyst, NC Justice Center Education &amp; Law Project https://www.ncjustice.org/author/kris-nordstrom/

Blair Reeves — Executive Director, Carolina Forward https://carolinaforward.org/about/

Ann Doss Helms — Former Education Reporter, WFAE (Charlotte's NPR station).  22 years covering education in Charlotte. https://www.wfae.org/people/ann-doss-helms

Kris Nordstrom's voucher discrepancy analysis (NC Justice Center) https://www.ncjustice.org/analysis-nc-private-school-voucher-program/

Ann Doss Helms' reporting on TAS Academy (WFAE):


  
Charlotte private school had more vouchers than students: https://www.wfae.org/education/2023-06-27/charlotte-private-school-had-more-vouchers-than-students-and-wheres-the-building



  
The elusive voucher school — some answers and lingering questions: https://www.wfae.org/education/2023-08-01/charlottes-elusive-voucher-school-some-answers-and-lingering-questions



  
Elusive voucher school has a new address in Harrisburg: https://www.wfae.org/education/2024-03-07/elusive-voucher-school-has-a-new-address-in-harrisburg-and-students-are-there




Carolina Forward https://carolinaforward.org

NC Justice Center — Education &amp; Law Project https://www.ncjustice.org

PRETEND Season 3 — Word of Faith Fellowship https://www.pretendradio.org

If you live in North Carolina and you have an opinion about how your tax dollars are being spent on private school vouchers, let your legislators know. They work for you.

Find your NC state representative and senator: https://www.ncleg.gov/findyourlegislators

Call the NC General Assembly directly: 919-733-4111 (ask to speak to your representative or senator)

Public Schools First NC also has a full contact list with emails for every member of the General Assembly, including education committee members: https://publicschoolsfirstnc.org/engage/contact-elected-officials/

You don't have to live in North Carolina to care about this. If your state has a voucher program, find out where the money's going. Ask the questions nobody else is asking.

Got a story idea? Hit me up: javier@pretendradio.org

GuestsResources &amp; Further ReadingMake Your Voice HeardContact
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        <![CDATA[<p>Look, I'm not anti-private school. You want your kid to learn in an environment that matches your beliefs? Cool. To each their own. But should your neighbors be paying for it? North Carolina is funneling half a billion dollars into private schools with almost zero oversight. 87% of new voucher money is going to families who were already paying for private school. Meanwhile, public schools are losing funding and teachers are getting paid near the bottom in the country. In this episode, I talk to a former student, a policy researcher, and a reporter who couldn't find a school that was cashing state checks. Spoiler: it took her seven addresses to track it down.</p>
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<p><strong>Stephen Cordes</strong> — Former student at the Word of Faith Christian School in Spindale, NC</p>
<p><strong>Kris Nordstrom</strong> — Senior Policy Analyst, NC Justice Center Education &amp; Law Project <a href="https://www.ncjustice.org/author/kris-nordstrom/">https://www.ncjustice.org/author/kris-nordstrom/</a></p>
<p><strong>Blair Reeves</strong> — Executive Director, Carolina Forward <a href="https://carolinaforward.org/about/">https://carolinaforward.org/about/</a></p>
<p><strong>Ann Doss Helms</strong> — Former Education Reporter, WFAE (Charlotte's NPR station).  22 years covering education in Charlotte. <a href="https://www.wfae.org/people/ann-doss-helms">https://www.wfae.org/people/ann-doss-helms</a></p>
<p><strong>Kris Nordstrom's voucher discrepancy analysis (NC Justice Center)</strong> <a href="https://www.ncjustice.org/analysis-nc-private-school-voucher-program/">https://www.ncjustice.org/analysis-nc-private-school-voucher-program/</a></p>
<p><strong>Ann Doss Helms' reporting on TAS Academy (WFAE):</strong></p>
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<p>Charlotte private school had more vouchers than students: <a href="https://www.wfae.org/education/2023-06-27/charlotte-private-school-had-more-vouchers-than-students-and-wheres-the-building">https://www.wfae.org/education/2023-06-27/charlotte-private-school-had-more-vouchers-than-students-and-wheres-the-building</a></p>
</li>
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<p>The elusive voucher school — some answers and lingering questions: <a href="https://www.wfae.org/education/2023-08-01/charlottes-elusive-voucher-school-some-answers-and-lingering-questions">https://www.wfae.org/education/2023-08-01/charlottes-elusive-voucher-school-some-answers-and-lingering-questions</a></p>
</li>
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<p>Elusive voucher school has a new address in Harrisburg: <a href="https://www.wfae.org/education/2024-03-07/elusive-voucher-school-has-a-new-address-in-harrisburg-and-students-are-there">https://www.wfae.org/education/2024-03-07/elusive-voucher-school-has-a-new-address-in-harrisburg-and-students-are-there</a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Carolina Forward</strong> <a href="https://carolinaforward.org">https://carolinaforward.org</a></p>
<p><strong>NC Justice Center — Education &amp; Law Project</strong> <a href="https://www.ncjustice.org">https://www.ncjustice.org</a></p>
<p><strong>PRETEND Season 3 — Word of Faith Fellowship</strong> <a href="https://www.pretendradio.org">https://www.pretendradio.org</a></p>
<p>If you live in North Carolina and you have an opinion about how your tax dollars are being spent on private school vouchers, let your legislators know. They work for you.</p>
<p><strong>Find your NC state representative and senator:</strong> <a href="https://www.ncleg.gov/findyourlegislators">https://www.ncleg.gov/findyourlegislators</a></p>
<p><strong>Call the NC General Assembly directly:</strong> 919-733-4111 (ask to speak to your representative or senator)</p>
<p><strong>Public Schools First NC</strong> also has a full contact list with emails for every member of the General Assembly, including education committee members: <a href="https://publicschoolsfirstnc.org/engage/contact-elected-officials/">https://publicschoolsfirstnc.org/engage/contact-elected-officials/</a></p>
<p>You don't have to live in North Carolina to care about this. If your state has a voucher program, find out where the money's going. Ask the questions nobody else is asking.</p>
<p>Got a story idea? Hit me up: <a href="mailto:javier@pretendradio.org">javier@pretendradio.org</a></p>
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      <title>Introducing Everything They Missed</title>
      <description>Hey guys, it's Javier here with a new recommendation! I've come across a true crime podcast that I just had to share with you all. It's called 'Everything They Missed' and it's hosted by Stephanie Tinsley. This podcast dives deep into the possible wrongful conviction and police mishandling of the Danny Harris case, a particularly gruesome murder that was mishandled from the get-go. What sets this podcast apart is Stephanie's dedication to uncovering the truth, including hiring her own private investigator



https://www.everythingtheymissed.com/
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      <pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2026 15:59:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>25</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Hey guys, it's Javier here with a new recommendation! I've come across a true crime podcast that I just had to share with you all. It's called 'Everything They Missed' and it's hosted by Stephanie Tinsley. This podcast dives deep into the possible wrongful conviction and police mishandling of the Danny Harris case, a particularly gruesome murder that was mishandled from the get-go. What sets this podcast apart is Stephanie's dedication to uncovering the truth, including hiring her own private investigator



https://www.everythingtheymissed.com/
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hey guys, it's Javier here with a new recommendation! I've come across a true crime podcast that I just had to share with you all. It's called 'Everything They Missed' and it's hosted by Stephanie Tinsley. This podcast dives deep into the possible wrongful conviction and police mishandling of the Danny Harris case, a particularly gruesome murder that was mishandled from the get-go. What sets this podcast apart is Stephanie's dedication to uncovering the truth, including hiring her own private investigator</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>https://www.everythingtheymissed.com/</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>2504: How to Spot a Fake ICE Agent</title>
      <description>Criminals have been impersonating ICE agents, using fake badges to rape, rob, kidnap, and terrorize communities across America. These imposters have conducted workplace raids, street stops, and home invasions.



They wear tactical gear, drive unmarked vehicles, and ask "Are you a U.S. citizen?" Our investigation documented 13 cases spanning from 2016 to last week. 



We also talk with Laura Jadeed, a reporter who received a job offer from ICE despite skipping most of the application process.



Content Warning: This episode contains descriptions of sexual assault, police violence, and the deaths of U.S. citizens. Listener discretion is advised.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2026 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>How to Spot a Fake ICE Agent</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>25</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Criminals have been impersonating ICE agents, using fake badges to rape, rob, kidnap, and terrorize communities across America. These imposters have conducted workplace raids, street stops, and home invasions.



They wear tactical gear, drive unmarked vehicles, and ask "Are you a U.S. citizen?" Our investigation documented 13 cases spanning from 2016 to last week. 



We also talk with Laura Jadeed, a reporter who received a job offer from ICE despite skipping most of the application process.



Content Warning: This episode contains descriptions of sexual assault, police violence, and the deaths of U.S. citizens. Listener discretion is advised.
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        <![CDATA[<p>Criminals have been impersonating ICE agents, using fake badges to rape, rob, kidnap, and terrorize communities across America. These imposters have conducted workplace raids, street stops, and home invasions.</p>
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<p>They wear tactical gear, drive unmarked vehicles, and ask "Are you a U.S. citizen?" Our investigation documented 13 cases spanning from 2016 to last week. </p>
<p><br></p>
<p>We also talk with Laura Jadeed, a reporter who received a job offer from ICE despite skipping most of the application process.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Content Warning: This episode contains descriptions of sexual assault, police violence, and the deaths of U.S. citizens. Listener discretion is advised.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1989</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Listener Reaction: Didn't See It Coming Part 3 </title>
      <description>Patreon supporter Kenito Wills joins Javier to break down the finale of the "Didn't See It Coming" series.

They talk through Susanne Wilson calling off the reading at the last minute. Did she know it was a sting? Did she just have a bad feeling? Javier shares a detail that got cut from the episode: Suzanne actually arranged for the fake family to get a reading with another medium in Europe, which suggests she wasn't 100% sure it was a setup.

Plus: Kenito and Javier swap palm reading stories from college. Kenito was told he'd have five kids (he didn't). Javier was told he'd meet the love of his life right after a bad breakup (he did).

The takeaway isn't that psychics aren't real or that you can't grieve however you want. It's that if someone mentions Reynolds Wrap and your maiden name is Reynolds, maybe ask some questions.

Susan Gerbic's YouTube channel "Psychics Explained" has dozens of videos documenting Operation Banana Cream Pie and other investigations. Link in the show notes.

Watch the full videos of Operation Banana Cream Pie on Susan Gerbic's YouTube page:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcSfdioxwHQGkyFZ68maphdIJuYcb8xln

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      <pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2026 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>25</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Patreon supporter Kenito Wills joins Javier to break down the finale of the "Didn't See It Coming" series.

They talk through Susanne Wilson calling off the reading at the last minute. Did she know it was a sting? Did she just have a bad feeling? Javier shares a detail that got cut from the episode: Suzanne actually arranged for the fake family to get a reading with another medium in Europe, which suggests she wasn't 100% sure it was a setup.

Plus: Kenito and Javier swap palm reading stories from college. Kenito was told he'd have five kids (he didn't). Javier was told he'd meet the love of his life right after a bad breakup (he did).

The takeaway isn't that psychics aren't real or that you can't grieve however you want. It's that if someone mentions Reynolds Wrap and your maiden name is Reynolds, maybe ask some questions.

Susan Gerbic's YouTube channel "Psychics Explained" has dozens of videos documenting Operation Banana Cream Pie and other investigations. Link in the show notes.

Watch the full videos of Operation Banana Cream Pie on Susan Gerbic's YouTube page:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcSfdioxwHQGkyFZ68maphdIJuYcb8xln

Want to see more psychic stings? 
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        <![CDATA[<p>Patreon supporter Kenito Wills joins Javier to break down the finale of the "Didn't See It Coming" series.</p>
<p>They talk through Susanne Wilson calling off the reading at the last minute. Did she know it was a sting? Did she just have a bad feeling? Javier shares a detail that got cut from the episode: Suzanne actually arranged for the fake family to get a reading with another medium in Europe, which suggests she wasn't 100% sure it was a setup.</p>
<p>Plus: Kenito and Javier swap palm reading stories from college. Kenito was told he'd have five kids (he didn't). Javier was told he'd meet the love of his life right after a bad breakup (he did).</p>
<p>The takeaway isn't that psychics aren't real or that you can't grieve however you want. It's that if someone mentions Reynolds Wrap and your maiden name is Reynolds, maybe ask some questions.</p>
<p>Susan Gerbic's YouTube channel "Psychics Explained" has dozens of videos documenting Operation Banana Cream Pie and other investigations. Link in the show notes.</p>
<p><strong>Watch the full videos of Operation Banana Cream Pie on Susan Gerbic's YouTube page:</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcSfdioxwHQGkyFZ68maphdIJuYcb8xln">https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcSfdioxwHQGkyFZ68maphdIJuYcb8xln</a></p>
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      <title>2503: Didn't See It Coming (Part 3)</title>
      <description>The sting is set. The bait is in place. Six skeptics are logged into a Zoom call, pretending to be grieving siblings. They've paid $1,400 for a private reading with a medium Susan Gerbic believes is a hot reader. Months of planning have led to this moment.

And then... the medium does something no one expected.

In the finale of this three-part series, we find out what happened to Operation Banana Cream Pie. Then, Susan shares recordings from other readings she's analyzed, walking us through what she believes is evidence of hot reading in action. We break down the techniques, examine the receipts, and let you decide what it all means.



Watch the full videos of Operation Banana Cream Pie on Susan Gerbic's YouTube page:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcSfdioxwHQGkyFZ68maphdIJuYcb8xln
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      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2026 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Didn't See It Coming (Part 3)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>25</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>The sting is set. The bait is in place. Six skeptics are logged into a Zoom call, pretending to be grieving siblings. They've paid $1,400 for a private reading with a medium Susan Gerbic believes is a hot reader. Months of planning have led to this moment.

And then... the medium does something no one expected.

In the finale of this three-part series, we find out what happened to Operation Banana Cream Pie. Then, Susan shares recordings from other readings she's analyzed, walking us through what she believes is evidence of hot reading in action. We break down the techniques, examine the receipts, and let you decide what it all means.



Watch the full videos of Operation Banana Cream Pie on Susan Gerbic's YouTube page:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcSfdioxwHQGkyFZ68maphdIJuYcb8xln
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        <![CDATA[<p>The sting is set. The bait is in place. Six skeptics are logged into a Zoom call, pretending to be grieving siblings. They've paid $1,400 for a private reading with a medium Susan Gerbic believes is a hot reader. Months of planning have led to this moment.</p>
<p>And then... the medium does something no one expected.</p>
<p>In the finale of this three-part series, we find out what happened to Operation Banana Cream Pie. Then, Susan shares recordings from other readings she's analyzed, walking us through what she believes is evidence of hot reading in action. We break down the techniques, examine the receipts, and let you decide what it all means.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Watch the full videos of Operation Banana Cream Pie on Susan Gerbic's YouTube page:</p>
<p><a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcSfdioxwHQGkyFZ68maphdIJuYcb8xln">https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcSfdioxwHQGkyFZ68maphdIJuYcb8xln</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2606</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Listener Reaction: Didn't See It Coming part 2</title>
      <description>Patreon supporter Christine Harnos (not the Star Trek actress, the other one) joins Javier to break down Part 2 of the "Didn't See It Coming" series before listening to the finale.

They get into the weeds on Susan Gerbic's sting setup: the Facebook accounts she's been maintaining for years, the fake obituary, the hog farm detail. If a psychic mentions pigs, you know something's up. They also discuss the difference between hot reading and cold reading, why "scientifically tested" doesn't mean what mediums want you to think it means, and the troubling relationship between psychic mediums and grief support organizations like Helping Parents Heal.

Christine also shares a strange, unexplainable moment from her own life involving her daughter and a daycare power outage.

Want more? Susan Gerbic documented the entire Operation Banana Cream Pie sting on her YouTube channel "Psychics Explained"—20+ videos of behind-the-scenes footage. Link in the show notes.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcSfdioxwHQGkyFZ68maphdIJuYcb8xln




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      <pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2026 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>25</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Patreon supporter Christine Harnos (not the Star Trek actress, the other one) joins Javier to break down Part 2 of the "Didn't See It Coming" series before listening to the finale.

They get into the weeds on Susan Gerbic's sting setup: the Facebook accounts she's been maintaining for years, the fake obituary, the hog farm detail. If a psychic mentions pigs, you know something's up. They also discuss the difference between hot reading and cold reading, why "scientifically tested" doesn't mean what mediums want you to think it means, and the troubling relationship between psychic mediums and grief support organizations like Helping Parents Heal.

Christine also shares a strange, unexplainable moment from her own life involving her daughter and a daycare power outage.

Want more? Susan Gerbic documented the entire Operation Banana Cream Pie sting on her YouTube channel "Psychics Explained"—20+ videos of behind-the-scenes footage. Link in the show notes.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcSfdioxwHQGkyFZ68maphdIJuYcb8xln




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        <![CDATA[<p>Patreon supporter Christine Harnos (not the Star Trek actress, the other one) joins Javier to break down Part 2 of the "Didn't See It Coming" series before listening to the finale.</p>
<p>They get into the weeds on Susan Gerbic's sting setup: the Facebook accounts she's been maintaining for years, the fake obituary, the hog farm detail. If a psychic mentions pigs, you know something's up. They also discuss the difference between hot reading and cold reading, why "scientifically tested" doesn't mean what mediums want you to think it means, and the troubling relationship between psychic mediums and grief support organizations like Helping Parents Heal.</p>
<p>Christine also shares a strange, unexplainable moment from her own life involving her daughter and a daycare power outage.</p>
<p><strong>Want more?</strong> Susan Gerbic documented the entire Operation Banana Cream Pie sting on her YouTube channel "Psychics Explained"—20+ videos of behind-the-scenes footage. Link in the show notes.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcSfdioxwHQGkyFZ68maphdIJuYcb8xln">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcSfdioxwHQGkyFZ68maphdIJuYcb8xln</a></p>
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      <itunes:duration>1518</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2502: Didn't See It Coming (Part 2)</title>
      <description>In Part 1, we watched skeptic Susan Gerbic dissect a celebrity psychic's cold reading techniques. But cold reading is the little leagues of the psychic industry. In Part 2, Susan sets her sights on something harder to catch... a hot reader.

Hot reading is when a psychic does their homework, researching their clients before the reading even starts. So Susan devises an elaborate sting: fake Facebook accounts, fake obituaries, fake family members, and $1,400 worth of bait designed to catch a medium in the act.

Six skeptics go undercover as grieving siblings. They don't know each other. They don't know the backstory. And they have no idea what's about to happen.

This episode takes you inside "Operation Banana Cream Pie." Let's just say, the moment the medium logs onto the Zoom call, no one saw it coming.



ABOUT SUSAN GERBIC:

Susan Gerbic is a Fellow of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry and founder of Guerrilla Skepticism on Wikipedia, a group that has written over 2,000 Wikipedia articles on science and pseudoscience — viewed more than 200 million times. Her most famous investigation, "Operation Pizza Roll," was featured in The New York Times Magazine and exposed medium Thomas John's hot reading techniques. Susan runs the nonprofit About Time, which funds her ongoing psychic investigations.



Want more? Susan Gerbic documented the entire Operation Banana Cream Pie sting on her YouTube channel "Psychics Explained"—20+ videos of behind-the-scenes footage. Link in the show notes.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcSfdioxwHQGkyFZ68maphdIJuYcb8xln



LINKS &amp; RESOURCES:


  
Susan Gerbic's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PsychicsExplained



  
About Time Project: https://www.abouttimeproject.org/



  
NYT Magazine feature on Operation Pizza Roll: https://archive.ph/20190226135004/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/magazine/psychics-skeptics-facebook.html







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      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2026 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Didn't See It Coming (Part 2)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>25</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In Part 1, we watched skeptic Susan Gerbic dissect a celebrity psychic's cold reading techniques. But cold reading is the little leagues of the psychic industry. In Part 2, Susan sets her sights on something harder to catch... a hot reader.

Hot reading is when a psychic does their homework, researching their clients before the reading even starts. So Susan devises an elaborate sting: fake Facebook accounts, fake obituaries, fake family members, and $1,400 worth of bait designed to catch a medium in the act.

Six skeptics go undercover as grieving siblings. They don't know each other. They don't know the backstory. And they have no idea what's about to happen.

This episode takes you inside "Operation Banana Cream Pie." Let's just say, the moment the medium logs onto the Zoom call, no one saw it coming.



ABOUT SUSAN GERBIC:

Susan Gerbic is a Fellow of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry and founder of Guerrilla Skepticism on Wikipedia, a group that has written over 2,000 Wikipedia articles on science and pseudoscience — viewed more than 200 million times. Her most famous investigation, "Operation Pizza Roll," was featured in The New York Times Magazine and exposed medium Thomas John's hot reading techniques. Susan runs the nonprofit About Time, which funds her ongoing psychic investigations.



Want more? Susan Gerbic documented the entire Operation Banana Cream Pie sting on her YouTube channel "Psychics Explained"—20+ videos of behind-the-scenes footage. Link in the show notes.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcSfdioxwHQGkyFZ68maphdIJuYcb8xln



LINKS &amp; RESOURCES:


  
Susan Gerbic's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PsychicsExplained



  
About Time Project: https://www.abouttimeproject.org/



  
NYT Magazine feature on Operation Pizza Roll: https://archive.ph/20190226135004/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/magazine/psychics-skeptics-facebook.html







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        <![CDATA[<p>In Part 1, we watched skeptic Susan Gerbic dissect a celebrity psychic's cold reading techniques. But cold reading is the little leagues of the psychic industry. In Part 2, Susan sets her sights on something harder to catch... a hot reader.</p>
<p>Hot reading is when a psychic does their homework, researching their clients before the reading even starts. So Susan devises an elaborate sting: fake Facebook accounts, fake obituaries, fake family members, and $1,400 worth of bait designed to catch a medium in the act.</p>
<p>Six skeptics go undercover as grieving siblings. They don't know each other. They don't know the backstory. And they have no idea what's about to happen.</p>
<p>This episode takes you inside "Operation Banana Cream Pie." Let's just say, the moment the medium logs onto the Zoom call, no one saw it coming.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>ABOUT SUSAN GERBIC:</strong></p>
<p>Susan Gerbic is a Fellow of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry and founder of Guerrilla Skepticism on Wikipedia, a group that has written over 2,000 Wikipedia articles on science and pseudoscience — viewed more than 200 million times. Her most famous investigation, "Operation Pizza Roll," was featured in The New York Times Magazine and exposed medium Thomas John's hot reading techniques. Susan runs the nonprofit About Time, which funds her ongoing psychic investigations.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Want more?</strong> Susan Gerbic documented the entire Operation Banana Cream Pie sting on her YouTube channel "Psychics Explained"—20+ videos of behind-the-scenes footage. Link in the show notes.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcSfdioxwHQGkyFZ68maphdIJuYcb8xln">https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcSfdioxwHQGkyFZ68maphdIJuYcb8xln</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>LINKS &amp; RESOURCES:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>Susan Gerbic's YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@PsychicsExplained">https://www.youtube.com/@PsychicsExplained</a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>About Time Project: <a href="https://www.abouttimeproject.org/">https://www.abouttimeproject.org/</a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>NYT Magazine feature on Operation Pizza Roll: <a href="https://archive.ph/20190226135004/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/magazine/psychics-skeptics-facebook.html">https://archive.ph/20190226135004/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/magazine/psychics-skeptics-facebook.html</a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><br></p>
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      <itunes:duration>1981</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Listener Reaction: Didn't See That Coming Part 1 </title>
      <description>Longtime Patreon supporter Rebecca Catalfu joins Javier to unpack her firsthand experience going undercover at Matt Fraser's psychic readings.

Rebecca went into this investigation as a believer and came out the other side with a very different perspective. In this conversation, she and Javier break down the patterns they observed across multiple readings: the decision tree (grandparent, parent, or mystery), the "who is that to you?" fishing technique, the stop statements psychics use when they're not getting hits, and the emotional bell curve that takes grievers to rock bottom before lifting them back up with platitudes.

Rebecca also shares what it was like to make it into the virtual "panelist waiting room," the inconsistencies she noticed while analyzing readings for Susan's YouTube channel, and why she's most concerned about the predatory potential these readings pose to vulnerable people.

Plus: Javier attempts his own cold reading. It does not go well.



LINKS:


Susan Gerbic's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PsychicsExplained


Matt Fraser Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcSfdioxwHQGkyFZ68maphdIJuYcb8xln




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      <pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2026 13:55:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>25</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Longtime Patreon supporter Rebecca Catalfu joins Javier to unpack her firsthand experience going undercover at Matt Fraser's psychic readings.

Rebecca went into this investigation as a believer and came out the other side with a very different perspective. In this conversation, she and Javier break down the patterns they observed across multiple readings: the decision tree (grandparent, parent, or mystery), the "who is that to you?" fishing technique, the stop statements psychics use when they're not getting hits, and the emotional bell curve that takes grievers to rock bottom before lifting them back up with platitudes.

Rebecca also shares what it was like to make it into the virtual "panelist waiting room," the inconsistencies she noticed while analyzing readings for Susan's YouTube channel, and why she's most concerned about the predatory potential these readings pose to vulnerable people.

Plus: Javier attempts his own cold reading. It does not go well.



LINKS:


Susan Gerbic's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PsychicsExplained


Matt Fraser Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcSfdioxwHQGkyFZ68maphdIJuYcb8xln




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        <![CDATA[<p>Longtime Patreon supporter Rebecca Catalfu joins Javier to unpack her firsthand experience going undercover at Matt Fraser's psychic readings.</p>
<p>Rebecca went into this investigation as a believer and came out the other side with a very different perspective. In this conversation, she and Javier break down the patterns they observed across multiple readings: the decision tree (grandparent, parent, or mystery), the "who is that to you?" fishing technique, the stop statements psychics use when they're not getting hits, and the emotional bell curve that takes grievers to rock bottom before lifting them back up with platitudes.</p>
<p>Rebecca also shares what it was like to make it into the virtual "panelist waiting room," the inconsistencies she noticed while analyzing readings for Susan's YouTube channel, and why she's most concerned about the predatory potential these readings pose to vulnerable people.</p>
<p>Plus: Javier attempts his own cold reading. It does not go well.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>LINKS:
</p>
<p>Susan Gerbic's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PsychicsExplained
</p>
<p>Matt Fraser Playlist: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLcSfdioxwHQGkyFZ68maphdIJuYcb8xln</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>2501: Didn't See It Coming (Part 1)</title>
      <description>Skeptic Susan Gerbic invited PRETEND inside one of her psychic sting operations. In Part 1 of this three-part series, we go inside "Operation Gobble Gotcha," a Thanksgiving sting targeting celebrity psychic Matt Fraser. Susan and her team of volunteers infiltrate one of Matt's online group readings to observe his techniques in real time. What they witness isn't a connection to the other side. It's a technique called cold reading. And once you see it, you can't unsee it.



BINGE ALL THREE EPISODES:



Patreon: 

https://www.patreon.com/posts/didnt-see-it-2-147839354?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&amp;utm_source=copyLink&amp;utm_campaign=postshare_creator&amp;utm_content=join_link



PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast: 

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985





ABOUT SUSAN GERBIC:

Susan Gerbic is a Fellow of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry and founder of Guerrilla Skepticism on Wikipedia, a group that has written over 2,000 Wikipedia articles on science and pseudoscience — viewed more than 200 million times. Her most famous investigation, "Operation Pizza Roll," was featured in The New York Times Magazine and exposed medium Thomas John's hot reading techniques. Susan runs the nonprofit About Time, which funds her ongoing psychic investigations.

LINKS &amp; RESOURCES:


  
Susan Gerbic's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PsychicsExplained



  
About Time Project: https://www.abouttimeproject.org/



  
NYT Magazine feature on Operation Pizza Roll: https://archive.ph/20190226135004/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/magazine/psychics-skeptics-facebook.html




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      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2026 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Didn't See It Coming (Part 1)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>25</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>Skeptic Susan Gerbic invited PRETEND inside one of her psychic sting operations. In Part 1 of this three-part series, we go inside "Operation Gobble Gotcha," a Thanksgiving sting targeting celebrity psychic Matt Fraser. Susan and her team of volunteers infiltrate one of Matt's online group readings to observe his techniques in real time. What they witness isn't a connection to the other side. It's a technique called cold reading. And once you see it, you can't unsee it.



BINGE ALL THREE EPISODES:



Patreon: 

https://www.patreon.com/posts/didnt-see-it-2-147839354?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&amp;utm_source=copyLink&amp;utm_campaign=postshare_creator&amp;utm_content=join_link



PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast: 

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985





ABOUT SUSAN GERBIC:

Susan Gerbic is a Fellow of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry and founder of Guerrilla Skepticism on Wikipedia, a group that has written over 2,000 Wikipedia articles on science and pseudoscience — viewed more than 200 million times. Her most famous investigation, "Operation Pizza Roll," was featured in The New York Times Magazine and exposed medium Thomas John's hot reading techniques. Susan runs the nonprofit About Time, which funds her ongoing psychic investigations.

LINKS &amp; RESOURCES:


  
Susan Gerbic's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PsychicsExplained



  
About Time Project: https://www.abouttimeproject.org/



  
NYT Magazine feature on Operation Pizza Roll: https://archive.ph/20190226135004/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/magazine/psychics-skeptics-facebook.html




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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Skeptic Susan Gerbic invited PRETEND inside one of her psychic sting operations. In Part 1 of this three-part series, we go inside "Operation Gobble Gotcha," a Thanksgiving sting targeting celebrity psychic Matt Fraser. Susan and her team of volunteers infiltrate one of Matt's online group readings to observe his techniques in real time. What they witness isn't a connection to the other side. It's a technique called cold reading. And once you see it, you can't unsee it.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>BINGE ALL THREE EPISODES:</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Patreon: </p>
<p>https://www.patreon.com/posts/didnt-see-it-2-147839354?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&amp;utm_source=copyLink&amp;utm_campaign=postshare_creator&amp;utm_content=join_link</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast: </p>
<p>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>ABOUT SUSAN GERBIC:</strong></p>
<p>Susan Gerbic is a Fellow of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry and founder of Guerrilla Skepticism on Wikipedia, a group that has written over 2,000 Wikipedia articles on science and pseudoscience — viewed more than 200 million times. Her most famous investigation, "Operation Pizza Roll," was featured in The New York Times Magazine and exposed medium Thomas John's hot reading techniques. Susan runs the nonprofit About Time, which funds her ongoing psychic investigations.</p>
<p><strong>LINKS &amp; RESOURCES:</strong></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>Susan Gerbic's YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@PsychicsExplained">https://www.youtube.com/@PsychicsExplained</a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>About Time Project: <a href="https://www.abouttimeproject.org/">https://www.abouttimeproject.org/</a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>NYT Magazine feature on Operation Pizza Roll: <a href="https://archive.ph/20190226135004/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/magazine/psychics-skeptics-facebook.html">https://archive.ph/20190226135004/https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/magazine/psychics-skeptics-facebook.html</a></p>
</li>
</ul><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2368</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2408: PRETEND Live AMA</title>
      <description>PRETEND's first live YouTube AMA, co-hosted by Patreon supporter Katie Watson. The conversation covers listener questions about the making of PRETEND, behind-the-scenes stories, and what's coming next.

Highlights include: how Javier knows when a story is worth pursuing (hint: it's like fishing) and his techniques for getting interview subjects to let their guard down. He shares updates on past subjects including LaDonna and Frank Abagnale.

Looking ahead to 2026: Season 25 kicks off next week with psychic stings featuring undercover Patreon supporters. Also coming: State of Corruption (North Carolina), a caught-on-camera confessional, and a Word of Faith Fellowship update—the DA supposed to try the case is now on trial himself.

00:00 Intro  

02:53 Katie's Podcast Journey 

04:08 The Art of Storytelling 

06:09 Balancing Bias in Journalism 

07:49 Building Trust with Interviewees 

13:33 Balancing Podcasting and Life 

14:55 Ponzi Playbook &amp; Criminal Conduct 

17:22 Scariest Interview Subjects 

20:08 LaDonna Updates 

26:15 Red Flags and Trust 

27:37 Telepathy Tapes 

30:58 The Truth in Storytelling 

34:36 Interview Techniques 

37:20 Biggest Challenges in Podcasting

39:14 Balancing Truth and Twists 

42:37 Family Reactions 

44:11 Maintaining Neutrality 

45:19 Dream Project: Speed Dial 

46:56 What's Coming in 2026 

50:06 Proudest Series 

58:35 Word of Faith Update 

01:03:33 Season 25 Announcement




  
Blind Dave (Katie's YouTube show "Only in the UK"): https://youtube.com/@blinddave88



  
Decoding the Unknown: https://youtube.com/@decodingtheunknown2373



  
The Greatest Hoax on Earth by Alan Logan: https://a.co/d/gIHDef2




ChaptersLinks
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      <pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2026 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>PRETEND Live AMA</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>PRETEND's first live YouTube AMA, co-hosted by Patreon supporter Katie Watson. The conversation covers listener questions about the making of PRETEND, behind-the-scenes stories, and what's coming next.

Highlights include: how Javier knows when a story is worth pursuing (hint: it's like fishing) and his techniques for getting interview subjects to let their guard down. He shares updates on past subjects including LaDonna and Frank Abagnale.

Looking ahead to 2026: Season 25 kicks off next week with psychic stings featuring undercover Patreon supporters. Also coming: State of Corruption (North Carolina), a caught-on-camera confessional, and a Word of Faith Fellowship update—the DA supposed to try the case is now on trial himself.

00:00 Intro  

02:53 Katie's Podcast Journey 

04:08 The Art of Storytelling 

06:09 Balancing Bias in Journalism 

07:49 Building Trust with Interviewees 

13:33 Balancing Podcasting and Life 

14:55 Ponzi Playbook &amp; Criminal Conduct 

17:22 Scariest Interview Subjects 

20:08 LaDonna Updates 

26:15 Red Flags and Trust 

27:37 Telepathy Tapes 

30:58 The Truth in Storytelling 

34:36 Interview Techniques 

37:20 Biggest Challenges in Podcasting

39:14 Balancing Truth and Twists 

42:37 Family Reactions 

44:11 Maintaining Neutrality 

45:19 Dream Project: Speed Dial 

46:56 What's Coming in 2026 

50:06 Proudest Series 

58:35 Word of Faith Update 

01:03:33 Season 25 Announcement




  
Blind Dave (Katie's YouTube show "Only in the UK"): https://youtube.com/@blinddave88



  
Decoding the Unknown: https://youtube.com/@decodingtheunknown2373



  
The Greatest Hoax on Earth by Alan Logan: https://a.co/d/gIHDef2




ChaptersLinks
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>PRETEND's first live YouTube AMA, co-hosted by Patreon supporter Katie Watson. The conversation covers listener questions about the making of PRETEND, behind-the-scenes stories, and what's coming next.</p>
<p>Highlights include: how Javier knows when a story is worth pursuing (hint: it's like fishing) and his techniques for getting interview subjects to let their guard down. He shares updates on past subjects including LaDonna and Frank Abagnale.</p>
<p>Looking ahead to 2026: Season 25 kicks off next week with psychic stings featuring undercover Patreon supporters. Also coming: State of Corruption (North Carolina), a caught-on-camera confessional, and a Word of Faith Fellowship update—the DA supposed to try the case is now on trial himself.</p>
<p>00:00 Intro  </p>
<p>02:53 Katie's Podcast Journey </p>
<p>04:08 The Art of Storytelling </p>
<p>06:09 Balancing Bias in Journalism </p>
<p>07:49 Building Trust with Interviewees </p>
<p>13:33 Balancing Podcasting and Life </p>
<p>14:55 Ponzi Playbook &amp; Criminal Conduct </p>
<p>17:22 Scariest Interview Subjects </p>
<p>20:08 LaDonna Updates </p>
<p>26:15 Red Flags and Trust </p>
<p>27:37 Telepathy Tapes </p>
<p>30:58 The Truth in Storytelling </p>
<p>34:36 Interview Techniques </p>
<p>37:20 Biggest Challenges in Podcasting</p>
<p>39:14 Balancing Truth and Twists </p>
<p>42:37 Family Reactions </p>
<p>44:11 Maintaining Neutrality </p>
<p>45:19 Dream Project: Speed Dial </p>
<p>46:56 What's Coming in 2026 </p>
<p>50:06 Proudest Series </p>
<p>58:35 Word of Faith Update </p>
<p>01:03:33 Season 25 Announcement</p>
<p><br></p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>Blind Dave (Katie's YouTube show "Only in the UK"): <a href="https://youtube.com/@blinddave88">https://youtube.com/@blinddave88</a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Decoding the Unknown: <a href="https://youtube.com/@decodingtheunknown2373">https://youtube.com/@decodingtheunknown2373</a></p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>The Greatest Hoax on Earth by Alan Logan: https://a.co/d/gIHDef2</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p>ChaptersLinks</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3969</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2407-Licensed to Kill Revisited </title>
      <description>A Montana oncologist allegedly treated patients for cancer they never had and made millions doing it. We're re-releasing our two-part investigation into Dr. Thomas Weiner, plus a brand new interview with whistleblower Dr. Randy Sasich on what's happened since. The medical board finally revoked Weiner's license, but criminal charges still loom, a wrongful death lawsuit is underway, and the broken system that enabled this hasn't changed.


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      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2025 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Licensed to Kill Revisited </itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>A Montana oncologist allegedly treated patients for cancer they never had and made millions doing it. We're re-releasing our two-part investigation into Dr. Thomas Weiner, plus a brand new interview with whistleblower Dr. Randy Sasich on what's happened since. The medical board finally revoked Weiner's license, but criminal charges still loom, a wrongful death lawsuit is underway, and the broken system that enabled this hasn't changed.


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>A Montana oncologist allegedly treated patients for cancer they never had and made millions doing it. We're re-releasing our two-part investigation into Dr. Thomas Weiner, plus a brand new interview with whistleblower Dr. Randy Sasich on what's happened since. The medical board finally revoked Weiner's license, but criminal charges still loom, a wrongful death lawsuit is underway, and the broken system that enabled this hasn't changed.</p>
<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>4611</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2406: The Real Life Grinch</title>
      <description>'Tis the season for true crime chaos! Hosts Kristen Seavey from Murder, She Told, Javier Leiva from PRETEND, and Shaun from Sins &amp; Survivors join forces to explore Christmas crimes gone horribly wrong.

From a bath salts-fueled home decorator in suburban Ohio to a serial burglar stealing Robert De Niro's wrapped presents right from under his tree, these real-life Grinches prove that the holidays bring out the worst in some people. The hosts also dive into the disturbing case of postal workers who intercepted letters to Santa meant for underprivileged children...stealing laptops, iPads, and gift cards intended for kids in need.

But the main event is a fresh-off-the-press case from Bangor, Maine. When a couple woke up to find a stranger sleeping on their couch surrounded by their unwrapped Christmas presents. Police body cam footage reveals just how terrifying this "funny" story really was. 



Want to see the footage? 

https://youtube.com/shorts/XOBl40Ky6Dc



Murder, She Told: 

https://www.murdershetold.com/episodes/bertha-cote-1



PRETEND: https://open.spotify.com/show/2vaCjR7UvlN9aTIzW6kNCo?si=6c96588b93d04eb3



Sins &amp; Survivors: https://open.spotify.com/show/1W2swCx9LP38sFY06294pB?si=4b64a4ba692a4025


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      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2025 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Real Life Grinch</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>'Tis the season for true crime chaos! Hosts Kristen Seavey from Murder, She Told, Javier Leiva from PRETEND, and Shaun from Sins &amp; Survivors join forces to explore Christmas crimes gone horribly wrong.

From a bath salts-fueled home decorator in suburban Ohio to a serial burglar stealing Robert De Niro's wrapped presents right from under his tree, these real-life Grinches prove that the holidays bring out the worst in some people. The hosts also dive into the disturbing case of postal workers who intercepted letters to Santa meant for underprivileged children...stealing laptops, iPads, and gift cards intended for kids in need.

But the main event is a fresh-off-the-press case from Bangor, Maine. When a couple woke up to find a stranger sleeping on their couch surrounded by their unwrapped Christmas presents. Police body cam footage reveals just how terrifying this "funny" story really was. 



Want to see the footage? 

https://youtube.com/shorts/XOBl40Ky6Dc



Murder, She Told: 

https://www.murdershetold.com/episodes/bertha-cote-1



PRETEND: https://open.spotify.com/show/2vaCjR7UvlN9aTIzW6kNCo?si=6c96588b93d04eb3



Sins &amp; Survivors: https://open.spotify.com/show/1W2swCx9LP38sFY06294pB?si=4b64a4ba692a4025


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>'Tis the season for true crime chaos! Hosts Kristen Seavey from <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0n9q2IMjGQyrHMMByvnA2H">Murder, She Told</a>, Javier Leiva from PRETEND, and Shaun from <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1W2swCx9LP38sFY06294pB?si=3ce61d53c761431c">Sins &amp; Survivors</a> join forces to explore Christmas crimes gone horribly wrong.</p>
<p>From a bath salts-fueled home decorator in suburban Ohio to a serial burglar stealing Robert De Niro's wrapped presents right from under his tree, these real-life Grinches prove that the holidays bring out the worst in some people. The hosts also dive into the disturbing case of postal workers who intercepted letters to Santa meant for underprivileged children...stealing laptops, iPads, and gift cards intended for kids in need.</p>
<p>But the main event is a fresh-off-the-press case from Bangor, Maine. When a couple woke up to find a stranger sleeping on their couch surrounded by their unwrapped Christmas presents. Police body cam footage reveals just how terrifying this "funny" story really was. </p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Want to see the footage? </p>
<p>https://youtube.com/shorts/XOBl40Ky6Dc</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Murder, She Told: </p>
<p><a href="https://www.murdershetold.com/episodes/bertha-cote-1">https://www.murdershetold.com/episodes/bertha-cote-1</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>PRETEND: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2vaCjR7UvlN9aTIzW6kNCo?si=6c96588b93d04eb3">https://open.spotify.com/show/2vaCjR7UvlN9aTIzW6kNCo?si=6c96588b93d04eb3</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Sins &amp; Survivors: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/1W2swCx9LP38sFY06294pB?si=4b64a4ba692a4025">https://open.spotify.com/show/1W2swCx9LP38sFY06294pB?si=4b64a4ba692a4025</a></p>
<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2232</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Listener Reaction: Matthew Fenner vs. Ted Bell (Bonus)</title>
      <description>This bonus episode features Kim, a Patreon supporter who connected with the Matthew Fenner story...but not for the reasons you might expect.

Kim's been through the criminal justice system herself. She was prosecuted, sentenced, and spent two years in jail. 

The conversation goes to some unexpected places. Kim discusses how small-town politics can impact a case in ways that seem backward.

We talk about what jail was really like, why she now advocates for criminal justice reform, how the FBI got involved with her ex-husband's January 6th case, and how Word of Faith Fellowship's political connections might reach all the way to the White House.

---

This is part of a new series of listener conversations about recent episodes. Want to be part of it? Support PRETEND on Patreon or PRETEND+ on Apple Podcasts. 
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      <pubDate>Sat, 20 Dec 2025 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Bonus Episode: Listener Reaction - Matthew Fenner vs. Ted Bell</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This bonus episode features Kim, a Patreon supporter who connected with the Matthew Fenner story...but not for the reasons you might expect.

Kim's been through the criminal justice system herself. She was prosecuted, sentenced, and spent two years in jail. 

The conversation goes to some unexpected places. Kim discusses how small-town politics can impact a case in ways that seem backward.

We talk about what jail was really like, why she now advocates for criminal justice reform, how the FBI got involved with her ex-husband's January 6th case, and how Word of Faith Fellowship's political connections might reach all the way to the White House.

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This is part of a new series of listener conversations about recent episodes. Want to be part of it? Support PRETEND on Patreon or PRETEND+ on Apple Podcasts. 
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        <![CDATA[<p>This bonus episode features Kim, a Patreon supporter who connected with the Matthew Fenner story...but not for the reasons you might expect.</p>
<p>Kim's been through the criminal justice system herself. She was prosecuted, sentenced, and spent two years in jail. </p>
<p>The conversation goes to some unexpected places. Kim discusses how small-town politics can impact a case in ways that seem backward.</p>
<p>We talk about what jail was really like, why she now advocates for criminal justice reform, how the FBI got involved with her ex-husband's January 6th case, and how Word of Faith Fellowship's political connections might reach all the way to the White House.</p>
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<p>This is part of a new series of listener conversations about recent episodes. Want to be part of it? Support PRETEND on Patreon or PRETEND+ on Apple Podcasts. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>2405: The Prophet: Matthew Fenner vs Ted Bell</title>
      <description>What happens when the person responsible for prosecuting your case seems more interested in protecting your attackers? Matthew Fenner has been asking that question for eight years. After a 2017 mistrial in his assault case against Word of Faith Fellowship members, the judge ordered an immediate retrial. It never happened. Instead, DA Ted Bell granted delay after delay to the defendants while refusing to meet with Matthew, the victim. A gag order meant to last weeks stretched into years, silencing everyone involved and shielding WOFF from public scrutiny. Now Bell has suddenly scheduled the trial—during Matthew's critical medical residency interview. And when Matthew asked for a single accommodation after watching defendants receive years of them, Bell said no. Matthew's response? A legal petition alleging willful misconduct, political corruption, and conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice. He's asking the court to remove Bell from office entirely—or at minimum, remove him from this case. 



This episode features parts 10 and 11 of The Prophet series, followed by an in-depth analysis of Matthew's petition.  Stick around for an update at the end of the episode. 



Listen to the entire Prophet series on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4wvQwgTDC0XPEo5rkkW2Uj?si=2a9e6c9214e64b81
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      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2025 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Prophet: Matthew Fenner vs Ted Bell</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>What happens when the person responsible for prosecuting your case seems more interested in protecting your attackers? Matthew Fenner has been asking that question for eight years. After a 2017 mistrial in his assault case against Word of Faith Fellowship members, the judge ordered an immediate retrial. It never happened. Instead, DA Ted Bell granted delay after delay to the defendants while refusing to meet with Matthew, the victim. A gag order meant to last weeks stretched into years, silencing everyone involved and shielding WOFF from public scrutiny. Now Bell has suddenly scheduled the trial—during Matthew's critical medical residency interview. And when Matthew asked for a single accommodation after watching defendants receive years of them, Bell said no. Matthew's response? A legal petition alleging willful misconduct, political corruption, and conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice. He's asking the court to remove Bell from office entirely—or at minimum, remove him from this case. 



This episode features parts 10 and 11 of The Prophet series, followed by an in-depth analysis of Matthew's petition.  Stick around for an update at the end of the episode. 



Listen to the entire Prophet series on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4wvQwgTDC0XPEo5rkkW2Uj?si=2a9e6c9214e64b81
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What happens when the person responsible for prosecuting your case seems more interested in protecting your attackers? Matthew Fenner has been asking that question for eight years. After a 2017 mistrial in his assault case against Word of Faith Fellowship members, the judge ordered an immediate retrial. It never happened. Instead, DA Ted Bell granted delay after delay to the defendants while refusing to meet with Matthew, the victim. A gag order meant to last weeks stretched into years, silencing everyone involved and shielding WOFF from public scrutiny. Now Bell has suddenly scheduled the trial—during Matthew's critical medical residency interview. And when Matthew asked for a single accommodation after watching defendants receive years of them, Bell said no. Matthew's response? A legal petition alleging willful misconduct, political corruption, and conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice. He's asking the court to remove Bell from office entirely—or at minimum, remove him from this case. </p>
<p><br></p>
<p>This episode features parts 10 and 11 of The Prophet series, followed by an in-depth analysis of Matthew's petition.  Stick around for an update at the end of the episode. </p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Listen to the entire Prophet series on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4wvQwgTDC0XPEo5rkkW2Uj?si=2a9e6c9214e64b81</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Off Script: Pretend, Murder She Told &amp; Sins and Survivors Spill the Tea (BONUS)</title>
      <description>Join hosts Javier from Pretend, Kristen Seavey from Murder She Told, and
 Shaun from Sins and Survivors for a special holiday crossover episode 
where three true crime podcasters let their guard down and talk shop.



Featured Guests:

Kristen Seavey, host of Murder She Told

https://open.spotify.com/show/0n9q2IMjGQyrHMMByvnA2H?si=5975eb73d4714d07

Shaun, host of Sins and Survivors

https://open.spotify.com/show/1W2swCx9LP38sFY06294pB?si=05c3269c69b94a73
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      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2025 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Join hosts Javier from Pretend, Kristen Seavey from Murder She Told, and
 Shaun from Sins and Survivors for a special holiday crossover episode 
where three true crime podcasters let their guard down and talk shop.



Featured Guests:

Kristen Seavey, host of Murder She Told

https://open.spotify.com/show/0n9q2IMjGQyrHMMByvnA2H?si=5975eb73d4714d07

Shaun, host of Sins and Survivors

https://open.spotify.com/show/1W2swCx9LP38sFY06294pB?si=05c3269c69b94a73
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Join hosts Javier from Pretend, Kristen Seavey from Murder She Told, and
 Shaun from Sins and Survivors for a special holiday crossover episode 
where three true crime podcasters let their guard down and talk shop.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Featured Guests:</strong></p>
<p>Kristen Seavey, host of Murder She Told</p>
<p>https://open.spotify.com/show/0n9q2IMjGQyrHMMByvnA2H?si=5975eb73d4714d07</p>
<p>Shaun, host of Sins and Survivors</p>
<p>https://open.spotify.com/show/1W2swCx9LP38sFY06294pB?si=05c3269c69b94a73</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>2404: Open Enrollment, Open Season for Scammers</title>
      <description>This is the story of Simple Health Plans, a $150 million health insurance scam that preyed on desperate Americans and left thousands buried in medical debt. We'll meet Dawn, who nearly fell victim to their scheme, and Steven Dorfman, the mastermind who spent over a million dollars on jewelry while his customers discovered their "insurance" was worthless.

With Open Enrollment happening right now, scammers are out in full force. This episode will help you spot the red flags and protect yourself.



PROTECT YOURSELF - ESSENTIAL RESOURCES
Verify a Company is Legitimate:
- NAIC.org - Find your state insurance commissioner
- Google: Company name + "scam" or "complaint"
Shop for Real ACA Health Insurance:
- HealthCare.gov - Federal Marketplace
- LocalHelp.HealthCare.gov - Get free help from navigators
Report Fraud:
- ReportFraud.FTC.gov - File FTC complaint
- Contact your State Insurance Department
RED FLAGS:
✗ Not listed with state insurance department
✗ Pressure to sign up immediately
✗ Won't provide documents before purchase
✗ Suspiciously low prices
✗ Can't ask questions during "verification"
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2025 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Open Enrollment, Open Season for Scammers</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>This is the story of Simple Health Plans, a $150 million health insurance scam that preyed on desperate Americans and left thousands buried in medical debt. We'll meet Dawn, who nearly fell victim to their scheme, and Steven Dorfman, the mastermind who spent over a million dollars on jewelry while his customers discovered their "insurance" was worthless.

With Open Enrollment happening right now, scammers are out in full force. This episode will help you spot the red flags and protect yourself.



PROTECT YOURSELF - ESSENTIAL RESOURCES
Verify a Company is Legitimate:
- NAIC.org - Find your state insurance commissioner
- Google: Company name + "scam" or "complaint"
Shop for Real ACA Health Insurance:
- HealthCare.gov - Federal Marketplace
- LocalHelp.HealthCare.gov - Get free help from navigators
Report Fraud:
- ReportFraud.FTC.gov - File FTC complaint
- Contact your State Insurance Department
RED FLAGS:
✗ Not listed with state insurance department
✗ Pressure to sign up immediately
✗ Won't provide documents before purchase
✗ Suspiciously low prices
✗ Can't ask questions during "verification"
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This is the story of Simple Health Plans, a $150 million health insurance scam that preyed on desperate Americans and left thousands buried in medical debt. We'll meet Dawn, who nearly fell victim to their scheme, and Steven Dorfman, the mastermind who spent over a million dollars on jewelry while his customers discovered their "insurance" was worthless.</p>
<p>With Open Enrollment happening right now, scammers are out in full force. This episode will help you spot the red flags and protect yourself.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>PROTECT YOURSELF - ESSENTIAL RESOURCES
Verify a Company is Legitimate:
- NAIC.org - Find your state insurance commissioner
- Google: Company name + "scam" or "complaint"
Shop for Real ACA Health Insurance:
- HealthCare.gov - Federal Marketplace
- LocalHelp.HealthCare.gov - Get free help from navigators
Report Fraud:
- ReportFraud.FTC.gov - File FTC complaint
- Contact your State Insurance Department
RED FLAGS:
✗ Not listed with state insurance department
✗ Pressure to sign up immediately
✗ Won't provide documents before purchase
✗ Suspiciously low prices
✗ Can't ask questions during "verification"</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>2403: The Cancer Sympathy Machine part 3</title>
      <description>Harry spent nearly two years believing the woman he loved was dying of brain cancer. He stood by her for every surgery, organ failure...None of it was real.

In this episode, Harry walks us through the emotional fantasy Rachel built. 

Want the full story?

🎧 Listen to The Rachel Cancer Scam

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Hn5De466DmCIN8Sppw5Ik?si=6ba6b8cee95e4697

Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rachel-cancer-scam/id1772955263



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Use the link nordstellar.com/pretend
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      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2025 13:38:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title> The Cancer Sympathy Machine part 3</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Harry spent nearly two years believing the woman he loved was dying of brain cancer. He stood by her for every surgery, organ failure...None of it was real.

In this episode, Harry walks us through the emotional fantasy Rachel built. 

Want the full story?

🎧 Listen to The Rachel Cancer Scam

Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6Hn5De466DmCIN8Sppw5Ik?si=6ba6b8cee95e4697

Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rachel-cancer-scam/id1772955263



Protect your business before hackers even make a move.
NordStellar centralizes breach, dark web, and attack surface intelligence into one powerful threat-intelligence platform—helping you spot risks early and take action fast.

Get 20% off all NordStellar plans with the Black Friday code: BLACKFRIDAY20 (valid until December 10, 2025).
Use the link nordstellar.com/pretend
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        <![CDATA[<p>Harry spent nearly two years believing the woman he loved was dying of brain cancer. He stood by her for every surgery, organ failure...None of it was real.</p>
<p>In this episode, Harry walks us through the emotional fantasy Rachel built. </p>
<p>Want the full story?</p>
<p>🎧 Listen to The Rachel Cancer Scam</p>
<p>Spotify: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6Hn5De466DmCIN8Sppw5Ik?si=6ba6b8cee95e4697">https://open.spotify.com/show/6Hn5De466DmCIN8Sppw5Ik?si=6ba6b8cee95e4697</a></p>
<p>Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-rachel-cancer-scam/id1772955263</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><u><strong>Protect your business before hackers even make a move.</strong></u><br>
NordStellar centralizes breach, dark web, and attack surface intelligence into one powerful threat-intelligence platform—helping you spot risks early and take action fast.</p>
<p>Get <strong>20% off all NordStellar plans</strong> with the <strong>Black Friday code: BLACKFRIDAY20</strong> (valid until <strong>December 10, 2025</strong>).<br>
Use the link <a href="https://nordstellar.com/pretend">nordstellar.com/pretend</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2492</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Listener Reaction: The Cancer Sympathy Machine </title>
      <description>In this bonus episode, Ali, one of my longtime Patreon supporters, reached out after listening to the Cancer Sympathy Machine series.

Ali talks openly about her past with addiction, stigma, Hep C treatment and why some people hide the truth about what they’re really going through. 

I’m also sharing two listener stories about friends, classmates, and loved ones who faked cancer. 

Thanks to everyone who’s reached out, shared stories, and supported the show. And if you’ve got something you want to talk about, send it my way: javier@pretendradio.org
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2025 17:34:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this bonus episode, Ali, one of my longtime Patreon supporters, reached out after listening to the Cancer Sympathy Machine series.

Ali talks openly about her past with addiction, stigma, Hep C treatment and why some people hide the truth about what they’re really going through. 

I’m also sharing two listener stories about friends, classmates, and loved ones who faked cancer. 

Thanks to everyone who’s reached out, shared stories, and supported the show. And if you’ve got something you want to talk about, send it my way: javier@pretendradio.org
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this bonus episode, Ali, one of my longtime Patreon supporters, reached out after listening to the <em>Cancer Sympathy Machine</em> series.</p>
<p>Ali talks openly about her past with addiction, stigma, Hep C treatment and why some people hide the truth about what they’re really going through. </p>
<p>I’m also sharing two listener stories about friends, classmates, and loved ones who faked cancer. </p>
<p>Thanks to everyone who’s reached out, shared stories, and supported the show. And if you’ve got something you want to talk about, send it my way: <a href="mailto:javier@pretendradio.org">javier@pretendradio.org</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1222</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>2402: The Cancer Sympathy Machine part 2</title>
      <description>Why would anyone fake cancer?

Money? Sure.

Attention? Definitely.

But as I learned in this episode… the motives are a lot darker, messier, and more human than you might expect.



In Part 2 of The Cancer Sympathy Machine, we go beyond the headline-grabbing scams and into the emotional machinery behind these lies. With the help of cancer-survivor-turned-researcher Bill Petrich, we break down the categories of cancer fakers — from those seeking sympathy to those hiding crimes, escaping abuse, or covering up addictions.

We revisit the infamous cases you’ve heard about: Belle Gibson, Scamanda, and Jennifer Cataldo. 

To learn more about Bill Petrich’s work documenting these cases, check out his TikTok: @faking.cancer.expert:

https://www.tiktok.com/@faking.cancer.expert

Listen to eLIESabeth podcast: 

https://open.spotify.com/show/2nlxXhewsTRAyJhvyvaQbb?si=5de4d34489f549e9





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NordStellar centralizes breach, dark web, and attack surface intelligence into one powerful threat-intelligence platform—helping you spot risks early and take action fast.

Get 20% off all NordStellar plans with the Black Friday code: BLACKFRIDAY20 (valid until December 10, 2025).
Use the link ⁠nordstellar.com/pretend
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2025 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Cancer Sympathy Machine part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>Why would anyone fake cancer?

Money? Sure.

Attention? Definitely.

But as I learned in this episode… the motives are a lot darker, messier, and more human than you might expect.



In Part 2 of The Cancer Sympathy Machine, we go beyond the headline-grabbing scams and into the emotional machinery behind these lies. With the help of cancer-survivor-turned-researcher Bill Petrich, we break down the categories of cancer fakers — from those seeking sympathy to those hiding crimes, escaping abuse, or covering up addictions.

We revisit the infamous cases you’ve heard about: Belle Gibson, Scamanda, and Jennifer Cataldo. 

To learn more about Bill Petrich’s work documenting these cases, check out his TikTok: @faking.cancer.expert:

https://www.tiktok.com/@faking.cancer.expert

Listen to eLIESabeth podcast: 

https://open.spotify.com/show/2nlxXhewsTRAyJhvyvaQbb?si=5de4d34489f549e9





Protect your business before hackers even make a move.
NordStellar centralizes breach, dark web, and attack surface intelligence into one powerful threat-intelligence platform—helping you spot risks early and take action fast.

Get 20% off all NordStellar plans with the Black Friday code: BLACKFRIDAY20 (valid until December 10, 2025).
Use the link ⁠nordstellar.com/pretend
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Why would anyone fake cancer?</p>
<p>Money? Sure.</p>
<p>Attention? Definitely.</p>
<p>But as I learned in this episode… the motives are a lot darker, messier, and more human than you might expect.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>In Part 2 of The Cancer Sympathy Machine, we go beyond the headline-grabbing scams and into the emotional machinery behind these lies. With the help of cancer-survivor-turned-researcher Bill Petrich, we break down the categories of cancer fakers — from those seeking sympathy to those hiding crimes, escaping abuse, or covering up addictions.</p>
<p>We revisit the infamous cases you’ve heard about: Belle Gibson, Scamanda, and Jennifer Cataldo. </p>
<p>To learn more about Bill Petrich’s work documenting these cases, check out his TikTok: @faking.cancer.expert:</p>
<p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@faking.cancer.expert">https://www.tiktok.com/@faking.cancer.expert</a></p>
<p>Listen to eLIESabeth podcast: </p>
<p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2nlxXhewsTRAyJhvyvaQbb?si=5de4d34489f549e9">https://open.spotify.com/show/2nlxXhewsTRAyJhvyvaQbb?si=5de4d34489f549e9</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><br></p>
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      <title>2401: The Cancer Sympathy Machine part 1</title>
      <description>Some people fake cancer for sympathy. Others do it for money. But the truth is darker than most of us want to believe.



In this episode, we break down the tactics, behaviors, and mindsets of some of the most convincing cancer fakers out there. From Madison Russo’s botched medical props to Elizabeth Teckenbrock’s alleged search history...“Is it illegal to fake cancer?” Um, yeah.



Bill Petrich, a real cancer survivor who now investigates fake cases, helps us understand the psychology behind the deception.



We also take a look at the biggest cancer cons in recent history: Scamanda, Belle Gibson, Jennifer Flynn Cataldo and how these scams went from emotional manipulation to full-on fraud.



To learn more about Bill Petrich’s work documenting these cases, check out his TikTok: @faking.cancer.expert:



https://www.tiktok.com/@faking.cancer.expert



Listen to eLIESabeth podcast: 

https://open.spotify.com/show/2nlxXhewsTRAyJhvyvaQbb?si=5de4d34489f549e9





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      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2025 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Cancer Sympathy Machine part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>24</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Some people fake cancer for sympathy. Others do it for money. But the truth is darker than most of us want to believe.



In this episode, we break down the tactics, behaviors, and mindsets of some of the most convincing cancer fakers out there. From Madison Russo’s botched medical props to Elizabeth Teckenbrock’s alleged search history...“Is it illegal to fake cancer?” Um, yeah.



Bill Petrich, a real cancer survivor who now investigates fake cases, helps us understand the psychology behind the deception.



We also take a look at the biggest cancer cons in recent history: Scamanda, Belle Gibson, Jennifer Flynn Cataldo and how these scams went from emotional manipulation to full-on fraud.



To learn more about Bill Petrich’s work documenting these cases, check out his TikTok: @faking.cancer.expert:



https://www.tiktok.com/@faking.cancer.expert



Listen to eLIESabeth podcast: 

https://open.spotify.com/show/2nlxXhewsTRAyJhvyvaQbb?si=5de4d34489f549e9





Protect your business before hackers even make a move.
NordStellar centralizes breach, dark web, and attack surface intelligence into one powerful threat-intelligence platform—helping you spot risks early and take action fast.

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        <![CDATA[<p>Some people fake cancer for sympathy. Others do it for money. But the truth is darker than most of us want to believe.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>In this episode, we break down the tactics, behaviors, and mindsets of some of the most convincing cancer fakers out there. From Madison Russo’s botched medical props to Elizabeth Teckenbrock’s alleged search history...“Is it illegal to fake cancer?” Um, yeah.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Bill Petrich, a real cancer survivor who now investigates fake cases, helps us understand the psychology behind the deception.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>We also take a look at the biggest cancer cons in recent history: Scamanda, Belle Gibson, Jennifer Flynn Cataldo and how these scams went from emotional manipulation to full-on fraud.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>To learn more about Bill Petrich’s work documenting these cases, check out his TikTok: @faking.cancer.expert:</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>https://www.tiktok.com/@faking.cancer.expert</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Listen to eLIESabeth podcast: </p>
<p>https://open.spotify.com/show/2nlxXhewsTRAyJhvyvaQbb?si=5de4d34489f549e9</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><u><strong>Protect your business before hackers even make a move.</strong></u>
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      <itunes:duration>2269</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Dakota Spotlight: Meanwhile in Mankato</title>
      <description>On PRETEND, we tell stories about people who build false identities and hide the truth in plain sight. This week, we are featuring a case that fits right into that world. It is the newest season of Dakota Spotlight, titled “Meanwhile in Mankato.”

In 1965, an 18-year-old gas station attendant named Ray Dahm was murdered during an overnight shift at a rural Minnesota truck stop. The person who killed him was a clean-cut 17-year-old who looked harmless, the kind of kid no one would ever suspect. On the surface, it seemed simple. A robbery. A terrible act of violence. Case closed.

But that was only the beginning. Reporter James Wolner later uncovered that the killer did not stay locked away for long. Within a few years, he was quietly back in the community, working around teenage girls who had no idea they were interacting with a convicted murderer. His past had been buried, ignored, or conveniently forgotten.

“Meanwhile in Mankato” is a story about manipulation, vanished accountability, and the people who were left to carry the fallout of one man’s lies. It is exactly the kind of story we look at on PRETEND, because it shows how someone can reinvent themselves while everyone else looks the other way.

If you follow PRETEND, you will want to hear this one. It is sharp reporting, unsettling truth, and a reminder that the most dangerous story is often the one no one bothered to check.



Subscribe to Dakota Spotlight on Spotify:

https://open.spotify.com/show/3ZqpK6FfXIvS35TUYjckd6?si=fe79cf9a61264247


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      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2025 16:45:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>On PRETEND, we tell stories about people who build false identities and hide the truth in plain sight. This week, we are featuring a case that fits right into that world. It is the newest season of Dakota Spotlight, titled “Meanwhile in Mankato.”

In 1965, an 18-year-old gas station attendant named Ray Dahm was murdered during an overnight shift at a rural Minnesota truck stop. The person who killed him was a clean-cut 17-year-old who looked harmless, the kind of kid no one would ever suspect. On the surface, it seemed simple. A robbery. A terrible act of violence. Case closed.

But that was only the beginning. Reporter James Wolner later uncovered that the killer did not stay locked away for long. Within a few years, he was quietly back in the community, working around teenage girls who had no idea they were interacting with a convicted murderer. His past had been buried, ignored, or conveniently forgotten.

“Meanwhile in Mankato” is a story about manipulation, vanished accountability, and the people who were left to carry the fallout of one man’s lies. It is exactly the kind of story we look at on PRETEND, because it shows how someone can reinvent themselves while everyone else looks the other way.

If you follow PRETEND, you will want to hear this one. It is sharp reporting, unsettling truth, and a reminder that the most dangerous story is often the one no one bothered to check.



Subscribe to Dakota Spotlight on Spotify:

https://open.spotify.com/show/3ZqpK6FfXIvS35TUYjckd6?si=fe79cf9a61264247


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>On PRETEND, we tell stories about people who build false identities and hide the truth in plain sight. This week, we are featuring a case that fits right into that world. It is the newest season of Dakota Spotlight, titled “Meanwhile in Mankato.”</p>
<p>In 1965, an 18-year-old gas station attendant named Ray Dahm was murdered during an overnight shift at a rural Minnesota truck stop. The person who killed him was a clean-cut 17-year-old who looked harmless, the kind of kid no one would ever suspect. On the surface, it seemed simple. A robbery. A terrible act of violence. Case closed.</p>
<p>But that was only the beginning. Reporter James Wolner later uncovered that the killer did not stay locked away for long. Within a few years, he was quietly back in the community, working around teenage girls who had no idea they were interacting with a convicted murderer. His past had been buried, ignored, or conveniently forgotten.</p>
<p>“Meanwhile in Mankato” is a story about manipulation, vanished accountability, and the people who were left to carry the fallout of one man’s lies. It is exactly the kind of story we look at on PRETEND, because it shows how someone can reinvent themselves while everyone else looks the other way.</p>
<p>If you follow PRETEND, you will want to hear this one. It is sharp reporting, unsettling truth, and a reminder that the most dangerous story is often the one no one bothered to check.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Subscribe to Dakota Spotlight on Spotify:</p>
<p>https://open.spotify.com/show/3ZqpK6FfXIvS35TUYjckd6?si=fe79cf9a61264247</p>
<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>2309: From Smallville to NXIVM: The Psychology Behind Allison Mack</title>
      <description>Smallville's Allison Mack is out of prison, and she's finally talking.

What was NXIVM, and how did Allison Mack become a high-ranking member?NXIVM was a self-help organization that sold leadership training and personal development courses. Beneath the surface, it operated as a coercive group led by Keith Raniere, using control tactics like starvation diets, sleep deprivation, emotional manipulation, and eventually a secret “master-slave” subgroup called DOS.

Who is Allison Mack?Allison Mack, best known from Smallville, joined NXIVM in the mid-2000s. She rose quickly inside the group and later played a major role in recruiting and controlling women within DOS. Mack pled guilty to racketeering and served three years in federal prison for her crimes. She was released in 2023.

What is this episode about?In this conversation, journalist Natalie Robehmed — host of the new CBC podcast Allison After NXIVM — explains how Allison Mack describes her journey from devoted follower to active perpetrator. We break down the psychological mechanics that made NXIVM work: obedience training, emotional conditioning, sexual manipulation, and why even smart people get pulled into systems like this.

We also revisit Allison’s early life as a child actor, her abusive relationship before NXIVM, and how these patterns help explain the control she eventually exerted over others.

After you listen, check out:👉 Allison After NXIVM from Uncover (CBC + Campsite Media) — Episode 1 is out now.

https://open.spotify.com/show/5asD2sDYXsiUCtYi7VUO49?si=0325705c159b4f54

👉 Comic Book Central’s 2016 interview with Allison Mack — recorded before NXIVM collapsed, offering an eerie look at who she was then.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/1VXZyFrQGrzwHzgU1D1Cih?si=dd94dae2332a493e



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      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2025 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>From Smallville to NXIVM: The Psychology Behind Allison Mack</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Smallville's Allison Mack is out of prison, and she's finally talking.

What was NXIVM, and how did Allison Mack become a high-ranking member?NXIVM was a self-help organization that sold leadership training and personal development courses. Beneath the surface, it operated as a coercive group led by Keith Raniere, using control tactics like starvation diets, sleep deprivation, emotional manipulation, and eventually a secret “master-slave” subgroup called DOS.

Who is Allison Mack?Allison Mack, best known from Smallville, joined NXIVM in the mid-2000s. She rose quickly inside the group and later played a major role in recruiting and controlling women within DOS. Mack pled guilty to racketeering and served three years in federal prison for her crimes. She was released in 2023.

What is this episode about?In this conversation, journalist Natalie Robehmed — host of the new CBC podcast Allison After NXIVM — explains how Allison Mack describes her journey from devoted follower to active perpetrator. We break down the psychological mechanics that made NXIVM work: obedience training, emotional conditioning, sexual manipulation, and why even smart people get pulled into systems like this.

We also revisit Allison’s early life as a child actor, her abusive relationship before NXIVM, and how these patterns help explain the control she eventually exerted over others.

After you listen, check out:👉 Allison After NXIVM from Uncover (CBC + Campsite Media) — Episode 1 is out now.

https://open.spotify.com/show/5asD2sDYXsiUCtYi7VUO49?si=0325705c159b4f54

👉 Comic Book Central’s 2016 interview with Allison Mack — recorded before NXIVM collapsed, offering an eerie look at who she was then.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/1VXZyFrQGrzwHzgU1D1Cih?si=dd94dae2332a493e



20% off all NordStellar Plans (valid until December 10th, 2025) 

 Link: nordstellar.com/pretend  

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        <![CDATA[<p>Smallville's Allison Mack is out of prison, and she's finally talking.</p>
<p><strong>What was NXIVM, and how did Allison Mack become a high-ranking member?</strong><br>NXIVM was a self-help organization that sold leadership training and personal development courses. Beneath the surface, it operated as a coercive group led by Keith Raniere, using control tactics like starvation diets, sleep deprivation, emotional manipulation, and eventually a secret “master-slave” subgroup called DOS.</p>
<p><strong>Who is Allison Mack?</strong><br>Allison Mack, best known from <em>Smallville</em>, joined NXIVM in the mid-2000s. She rose quickly inside the group and later played a major role in recruiting and controlling women within DOS. Mack pled guilty to racketeering and served three years in federal prison for her crimes. She was released in 2023.</p>
<p><strong>What is this episode about?</strong><br>In this conversation, journalist <strong>Natalie Robehmed</strong> — host of the new CBC podcast <em>Allison After NXIVM</em> — explains how Allison Mack describes her journey from devoted follower to active perpetrator. We break down the psychological mechanics that made NXIVM work: obedience training, emotional conditioning, sexual manipulation, and why even smart people get pulled into systems like this.</p>
<p>We also revisit Allison’s early life as a child actor, her abusive relationship before NXIVM, and how these patterns help explain the control she eventually exerted over others.</p>
<p><strong>After you listen, check out:</strong><br>👉 <strong>Allison After NXIVM</strong> from Uncover (CBC + Campsite Media) — <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5asD2sDYXsiUCtYi7VUO49?si=bc7dca29ef3e4ca3">Episode 1 is out now.</a></p>
<p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5asD2sDYXsiUCtYi7VUO49?si=0325705c159b4f54">https://open.spotify.com/show/5asD2sDYXsiUCtYi7VUO49?si=0325705c159b4f54</a></p>
<p><br>👉 <strong>Comic Book Central’s 2016 interview with Allison Mack</strong> — recorded <em>before</em> NXIVM collapsed, offering an eerie look at who she was then.</p>
<p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/1VXZyFrQGrzwHzgU1D1Cih?si=dd94dae2332a493e">https://open.spotify.com/episode/1VXZyFrQGrzwHzgU1D1Cih?si=dd94dae2332a493e</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>20% off all NordStellar Plans</strong><em> (valid until December 10th, 2025) </em></p>
<p> Link: <a href="http://nordstellar.com/pretend">nordstellar.com/pretend</a><strong> </strong> </p>
<p>Coupon code is: <strong>blackfriday20 </strong></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2603</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Bonus: The Psychology Behind Parasocial Relationships (Cracks in the Fandom)</title>
      <description>This bonus episode is a chance to step back and make sense of everything that just unfolded in Cracks in the Fandom. If you listened to the series, you saw how an Instagram unfollow spiraled into harassment, infighting, and full-on chaos inside the SVU fandom. This series was petty, confusing , and pretty revealing about how people form attachments online.

I wanted to understand why this happens. Why someone can feel personally betrayed by an actor they don't even know. So I reached out to Bradley J. Bond, a professor at the University of San Diego who studies parasocial relationships for a living. He breaks down what these one-sided bonds actually are, why they feel real, and how they can slide from harmless to unhealthy faster than we think.



Copyright Takedown Update:My attorney has already filed a counterclaim. Patreon will let me put the episodes back up after the standard 10-business-day window. And Spotify is working on restoring the episodes promptly.  I’ll keep you updated. 

Thank you for supporting the show. Without you, I couldn't fight these frivolous legal challenges. 

Javier
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2025 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>This bonus episode is a chance to step back and make sense of everything that just unfolded in Cracks in the Fandom. If you listened to the series, you saw how an Instagram unfollow spiraled into harassment, infighting, and full-on chaos inside the SVU fandom. This series was petty, confusing , and pretty revealing about how people form attachments online.

I wanted to understand why this happens. Why someone can feel personally betrayed by an actor they don't even know. So I reached out to Bradley J. Bond, a professor at the University of San Diego who studies parasocial relationships for a living. He breaks down what these one-sided bonds actually are, why they feel real, and how they can slide from harmless to unhealthy faster than we think.



Copyright Takedown Update:My attorney has already filed a counterclaim. Patreon will let me put the episodes back up after the standard 10-business-day window. And Spotify is working on restoring the episodes promptly.  I’ll keep you updated. 

Thank you for supporting the show. Without you, I couldn't fight these frivolous legal challenges. 

Javier
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This bonus episode is a chance to step back and make sense of everything that just unfolded in <em>Cracks in the Fandom</em>. If you listened to the series, you saw how an Instagram unfollow spiraled into harassment, infighting, and full-on chaos inside the SVU fandom. This series was petty, confusing , and pretty revealing about how people form attachments online.</p>
<p>I wanted to understand <em>why</em> this happens. Why someone can feel personally betrayed by an actor they don't even know. So I reached out to <strong>Bradley J. Bond</strong>, a professor at the University of San Diego who studies parasocial relationships for a living. He breaks down what these one-sided bonds actually are, why they feel real, and how they can slide from harmless to unhealthy faster than we think.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Copyright Takedown Update:</strong><br>My attorney has already filed a counterclaim. Patreon will let me put the episodes back up after the standard 10-business-day window. And Spotify is working on restoring the episodes promptly.  I’ll keep you updated. </p>
<p>Thank you for supporting the show. Without you, I couldn't fight these frivolous legal challenges. </p>
<p>Javier</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1685</itunes:duration>
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      <title>The Hypnotist - Alien Abductions</title>
      <description>Alien abductions.Hundreds of people say it’s happened to them.They’re not looking for fame or attention.Some keep it a secret...haunted by memories they can’t explain.

In Day 3 of PRETEND’s Halloween Marathon, we meet Dr. John Mack, a Pulitzer Prize–winning Harvard psychiatrist who risked his reputation to study these so-called abductees. Using hypnosis and relaxation techniques, Mack tried to uncover whether these encounters were dreams, delusions, or something far stranger.

Why would a man of science devote his life to stories most people laugh off? And what if the people he studied weren’t crazy at all?

This episode is part of a larger series I produced on hypnosis. 



Check out the rest of the series. Season 8 of PRETEND: 

https://open.spotify.com/episode/05forE4OuW9zgsI9OZ7XHy?si=71eca84e0f5843ba



Listen ad-free on Patreon: 

https://www.patreon.com/collection/1813212


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      <pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2025 15:44:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Alien abductions.Hundreds of people say it’s happened to them.They’re not looking for fame or attention.Some keep it a secret...haunted by memories they can’t explain.

In Day 3 of PRETEND’s Halloween Marathon, we meet Dr. John Mack, a Pulitzer Prize–winning Harvard psychiatrist who risked his reputation to study these so-called abductees. Using hypnosis and relaxation techniques, Mack tried to uncover whether these encounters were dreams, delusions, or something far stranger.

Why would a man of science devote his life to stories most people laugh off? And what if the people he studied weren’t crazy at all?

This episode is part of a larger series I produced on hypnosis. 



Check out the rest of the series. Season 8 of PRETEND: 

https://open.spotify.com/episode/05forE4OuW9zgsI9OZ7XHy?si=71eca84e0f5843ba



Listen ad-free on Patreon: 

https://www.patreon.com/collection/1813212


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Alien abductions.<br>Hundreds of people say it’s happened to them.<br>They’re not looking for fame or attention.<br>Some keep it a secret...haunted by memories they can’t explain.</p>
<p>In Day 3 of PRETEND’s Halloween Marathon, we meet <strong>Dr. John Mack</strong>, a Pulitzer Prize–winning Harvard psychiatrist who risked his reputation to study these so-called abductees. Using hypnosis and relaxation techniques, Mack tried to uncover whether these encounters were dreams, delusions, or something far stranger.</p>
<p>Why would a man of science devote his life to stories most people laugh off? And what if the people he studied weren’t crazy at all?</p>
<p>This episode is part of a larger series I produced on <strong>hypnosis</strong>. </p>
<p><br></p>
<p><em>Check out the rest of the series. Season 8 of PRETEND: </em></p>
<p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/05forE4OuW9zgsI9OZ7XHy?si=71eca84e0f5843ba">https://open.spotify.com/episode/05forE4OuW9zgsI9OZ7XHy?si=71eca84e0f5843ba</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Listen ad-free on Patreon: </p>
<p>https://www.patreon.com/collection/1813212</p>
<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2396</itunes:duration>
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      <title>The Haunted Tourist</title>
      <description>It’s Day 2 of my Halloween Marathon, and today we’re diving into The Haunted Tourist.

I’m joined by Brandon Schexnayder, host of Southern Gothic and Fear Daily—two shows that live and breathe ghost stories. Together, we pull back the curtain on haunted tourism: the ghost tours, the myths, and the money that fuels them.

From fake cemeteries built for tourists to real tragedies twisted into folklore, Brandon and I explore what’s real, what’s exaggerated, and why we want to believe.

If you love a good ghost story—but also like to know what’s behind it—this one’s for you.



Southern Gothic: https://open.spotify.com/show/6s2eCUQgs76SLGEwiBwYOn?si=b9edd693f49b4e41



Fear Daily: https://open.spotify.com/show/5RrG0f6Yd7WNqSmuebfRMJ?si=d99660cd2e8c4a42
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      <pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2025 12:58:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>It’s Day 2 of my Halloween Marathon, and today we’re diving into The Haunted Tourist.

I’m joined by Brandon Schexnayder, host of Southern Gothic and Fear Daily—two shows that live and breathe ghost stories. Together, we pull back the curtain on haunted tourism: the ghost tours, the myths, and the money that fuels them.

From fake cemeteries built for tourists to real tragedies twisted into folklore, Brandon and I explore what’s real, what’s exaggerated, and why we want to believe.

If you love a good ghost story—but also like to know what’s behind it—this one’s for you.



Southern Gothic: https://open.spotify.com/show/6s2eCUQgs76SLGEwiBwYOn?si=b9edd693f49b4e41



Fear Daily: https://open.spotify.com/show/5RrG0f6Yd7WNqSmuebfRMJ?si=d99660cd2e8c4a42
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It’s Day 2 of my Halloween Marathon, and today we’re diving into <em>The Haunted Tourist.</em></p>
<p>I’m joined by <strong>Brandon Schexnayder</strong>, host of <em>Southern Gothic</em> and <em>Fear Daily</em>—two shows that live and breathe ghost stories. Together, we pull back the curtain on haunted tourism: the ghost tours, the myths, and the money that fuels them.</p>
<p>From fake cemeteries built for tourists to real tragedies twisted into folklore, Brandon and I explore what’s real, what’s exaggerated, and why we <em>want</em> to believe.</p>
<p>If you love a good ghost story—but also like to know what’s behind it—this one’s for you.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Southern Gothic: https://open.spotify.com/show/6s2eCUQgs76SLGEwiBwYOn?si=b9edd693f49b4e41</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Fear Daily: https://open.spotify.com/show/5RrG0f6Yd7WNqSmuebfRMJ?si=d99660cd2e8c4a42</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3629</itunes:duration>
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      <title>The Real Vampires </title>
      <description>Hey, it’s Javier. Quick update: Meghan Walsh, the subject of my Cracks in the Fandom series, has filed copyright complaints on every major platform. As a result, Spotify and Patreon have temporarily taken down the series. My attorneys are already on it, and we expect everything to be restored soon.

In the meantime, it’s Halloween weekend — so let’s have some fun. I’m bringing back some of my favorite spooky episodes from the PRETEND archives. Today’s story? Real Vampires. Yeah, real ones. It’s one of my all-time favorites, and honestly, there’s no better time of year to revisit it.

Stick around... I’ll be dropping more eerie episodes all weekend long. For now, let’s press play on The Real Vampires.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2025 13:31:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Hey, it’s Javier. Quick update: Meghan Walsh, the subject of my Cracks in the Fandom series, has filed copyright complaints on every major platform. As a result, Spotify and Patreon have temporarily taken down the series. My attorneys are already on it, and we expect everything to be restored soon.

In the meantime, it’s Halloween weekend — so let’s have some fun. I’m bringing back some of my favorite spooky episodes from the PRETEND archives. Today’s story? Real Vampires. Yeah, real ones. It’s one of my all-time favorites, and honestly, there’s no better time of year to revisit it.

Stick around... I’ll be dropping more eerie episodes all weekend long. For now, let’s press play on The Real Vampires.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hey, it’s Javier. Quick update: Meghan Walsh, the subject of my <em>Cracks in the Fandom</em> series, has filed copyright complaints on every major platform. As a result, Spotify and Patreon have temporarily taken down the series. My attorneys are already on it, and we expect everything to be restored soon.</p>
<p>In the meantime, it’s Halloween weekend — so let’s have some fun. I’m bringing back some of my favorite spooky episodes from the PRETEND archives. Today’s story? <em>Real Vampires.</em> Yeah, real ones. It’s one of my all-time favorites, and honestly, there’s no better time of year to revisit it.</p>
<p>Stick around... I’ll be dropping more eerie episodes all weekend long. For now, let’s press play on <em>The Real Vampires.</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2580</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>2304: Cracks in the Fandom part 4</title>
      <description>Important Update on “Cracks in the Fandom”Meghan Walsh, the subject of my latest series, filed a copyright infringement claim with all major podcast platforms. As a result, Patreon and Spotify have temporarily removed the episodes pending review.The good news? You can still listen to the entire series on Apple Podcasts.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend-radio/id1245307962?mt=2

__________



In the Law &amp; Order: SVU community, Meghan Walsh says she’s been stalked for years. She even claims Mariska Hargitay is somehow involved. Her alleged tormentor, Michelle Ivey, tells a very different story.

Accusations of swatting, online impersonation, and defamation swirl around this fandom feud. The evidence is messy, and just when you think you know where it’s heading... there’s a twist you won’t see coming.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Cracks in the Fandom part 4</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>Important Update on “Cracks in the Fandom”Meghan Walsh, the subject of my latest series, filed a copyright infringement claim with all major podcast platforms. As a result, Patreon and Spotify have temporarily removed the episodes pending review.The good news? You can still listen to the entire series on Apple Podcasts.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend-radio/id1245307962?mt=2

__________



In the Law &amp; Order: SVU community, Meghan Walsh says she’s been stalked for years. She even claims Mariska Hargitay is somehow involved. Her alleged tormentor, Michelle Ivey, tells a very different story.

Accusations of swatting, online impersonation, and defamation swirl around this fandom feud. The evidence is messy, and just when you think you know where it’s heading... there’s a twist you won’t see coming.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Important Update on “Cracks in the Fandom”<br>Meghan Walsh, the subject of my latest series, filed a copyright infringement claim with all major podcast platforms. As a result, Patreon and Spotify have temporarily removed the episodes pending review.<br>The good news? You can still listen to the entire series on Apple Podcasts.</p>
<p>https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend-radio/id1245307962?mt=2</p>
<p>__________</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>In the <em>Law &amp; Order: SVU</em> community, Meghan Walsh says she’s been stalked for years. She even claims Mariska Hargitay is somehow involved. Her alleged tormentor, Michelle Ivey, tells a very different story.</p>
<p>Accusations of swatting, online impersonation, and defamation swirl around this fandom feud. The evidence is messy, and just when you think you know where it’s heading... there’s a twist you won’t see coming.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3381</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2303: Cracks in the Fandom part 3 </title>
      <description>Cracks in the Fandom — Part 3 (Edited Copyright Cut)PRETEND: Stories about real people pretending to be someone they’re not

Michelle Ivey has been painted as the villain. Meghan Walsh calls her a stalker, a criminal, a threat to her life. She’s warned not to contact her.

But in this episode, I do just that. I talk to Michelle. And what I find is something very different from the unhinged boogeyman Meghan has described for years.

What if Michelle isn’t stalking anyone at all? What if she’s just a fan?

In Part 3, the story begins to fracture. Meghan's claims get louder. But her evidence starts to slip. And the people she says are targeting her… start to speak up.

This is the extended version of the episode. If you're listening now on Patreon or Pretend+, I'd love to know what you think. Is this story about stalking, delusion, or something else entirely?
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Cracks in the Fandom part 3 </itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Cracks in the Fandom — Part 3 (Edited Copyright Cut)PRETEND: Stories about real people pretending to be someone they’re not

Michelle Ivey has been painted as the villain. Meghan Walsh calls her a stalker, a criminal, a threat to her life. She’s warned not to contact her.

But in this episode, I do just that. I talk to Michelle. And what I find is something very different from the unhinged boogeyman Meghan has described for years.

What if Michelle isn’t stalking anyone at all? What if she’s just a fan?

In Part 3, the story begins to fracture. Meghan's claims get louder. But her evidence starts to slip. And the people she says are targeting her… start to speak up.

This is the extended version of the episode. If you're listening now on Patreon or Pretend+, I'd love to know what you think. Is this story about stalking, delusion, or something else entirely?
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>Cracks in the Fandom — Part 3 (Edited Copyright Cut)</strong><br><em>PRETEND: Stories about real people pretending to be someone they’re not</em></p>
<p>Michelle Ivey has been painted as the villain. Meghan Walsh calls her a stalker, a criminal, a threat to her life. She’s warned not to contact her.</p>
<p>But in this episode, I do just that. I talk to Michelle. And what I find is something very different from the unhinged boogeyman Meghan has described for years.</p>
<p>What if Michelle isn’t stalking anyone at all? What if she’s just a fan?</p>
<p>In Part 3, the story begins to fracture. Meghan's claims get louder. But her evidence starts to slip. And the people she says are targeting her… start to speak up.</p>
<p>This is the <strong>extended version</strong> of the episode. If you're listening now on Patreon or Pretend+, I'd love to know what you think. Is this story about stalking, delusion, or something else entirely?</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2693</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2302: Cracks in the Fandom part 2</title>
      <description>Meghan Walsh says she is being stalked by three people. One of them is Law &amp; Order: SVU star Mariska Hargitay. Sounds impossible, right?

But she’s not the only one saying it.

In this episode, we meet Lauren. She claims to be the biological mother of Mariska’s adopted daughter. Her story begins with a supposed secret adoption, and spirals into accusations of betrayal and abandonment. Lauren says the actress is not just stalking her, but working behind the scenes to silence anyone who challenges her.

Meghan believes her. To her, Lauren is the missing piece that proves her own story is real. But the more we dig, the harder it becomes to separate truth from delusion.

Is this the beginning of a deeper conspiracy? Or just another internet rabbit hole?

This extended version includes additional narration and soundbites not available in the public edit. Let me know what you think of the series so far. Your feedback will help shape the final episodes before they go live in the main feed.

All 4 Episodes Available now on Pretend+ and Patreon

PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio

PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Cracks in the Fandom part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>Meghan Walsh says she is being stalked by three people. One of them is Law &amp; Order: SVU star Mariska Hargitay. Sounds impossible, right?

But she’s not the only one saying it.

In this episode, we meet Lauren. She claims to be the biological mother of Mariska’s adopted daughter. Her story begins with a supposed secret adoption, and spirals into accusations of betrayal and abandonment. Lauren says the actress is not just stalking her, but working behind the scenes to silence anyone who challenges her.

Meghan believes her. To her, Lauren is the missing piece that proves her own story is real. But the more we dig, the harder it becomes to separate truth from delusion.

Is this the beginning of a deeper conspiracy? Or just another internet rabbit hole?

This extended version includes additional narration and soundbites not available in the public edit. Let me know what you think of the series so far. Your feedback will help shape the final episodes before they go live in the main feed.

All 4 Episodes Available now on Pretend+ and Patreon

PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio

PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Meghan Walsh says she is being stalked by three people. One of them is <em>Law &amp; Order: SVU</em> star Mariska Hargitay. Sounds impossible, right?</p>
<p>But she’s not the only one saying it.</p>
<p>In this episode, we meet Lauren. She claims to be the biological mother of Mariska’s adopted daughter. Her story begins with a supposed secret adoption, and spirals into accusations of betrayal and abandonment. Lauren says the actress is not just stalking her, but working behind the scenes to silence anyone who challenges her.</p>
<p>Meghan believes her. To her, Lauren is the missing piece that proves her own story is real. But the more we dig, the harder it becomes to separate truth from delusion.</p>
<p>Is this the beginning of a deeper conspiracy? Or just another internet rabbit hole?</p>
<p>This extended version includes additional narration and soundbites not available in the public edit. Let me know what you think of the series so far. Your feedback will help shape the final episodes before they go live in the main feed.</p>
<p><strong>All 4 Episodes</strong> <strong>Available now on Pretend+ and Patreon</strong></p>
<p>PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio</p>
<p>PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2515</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2301: Cracks in the Fandom part 1</title>
      <description>🎧 NEW SERIES: “Cracks in the Fandom” 

What would you do if you thought your favorite celebrity was stalking you?

That’s exactly what Meghan Walsh claims. She says she’s being harassed by not one, not two—but three stalkers. And one of them? Is Mariska Hargitay, best known as Detective Olivia Benson from Law &amp; Order: SVU.

Yeah. I know how that sounds.

But here’s the thing: the more I looked into it, the more the story started to twist. 

This new series, Cracks in the Fandom, is not about whether Mariska is actually stalking someone (spoiler: come on). It’s about why someone might believe that. What happens when online relationships go sideways. And what’s really going on underneath the noise.

I’m releasing the first three extended cuts that are ~10 minutes longer than what you'll eventually hear on the public feed. There are 5 episodes total. 

And trust me, this story goes places I did not expect.

Your feedback means a lot. Let me know what you think of the pacing, the structure, or anything that feels confusing. This is your sneak preview—and your chance to help shape how the story is told.



First 3 episodes available now on Patreon and PRETEND+:

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio

PRETEND+ Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Cracks in the Fandom part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>23</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>🎧 NEW SERIES: “Cracks in the Fandom” 

What would you do if you thought your favorite celebrity was stalking you?

That’s exactly what Meghan Walsh claims. She says she’s being harassed by not one, not two—but three stalkers. And one of them? Is Mariska Hargitay, best known as Detective Olivia Benson from Law &amp; Order: SVU.

Yeah. I know how that sounds.

But here’s the thing: the more I looked into it, the more the story started to twist. 

This new series, Cracks in the Fandom, is not about whether Mariska is actually stalking someone (spoiler: come on). It’s about why someone might believe that. What happens when online relationships go sideways. And what’s really going on underneath the noise.

I’m releasing the first three extended cuts that are ~10 minutes longer than what you'll eventually hear on the public feed. There are 5 episodes total. 

And trust me, this story goes places I did not expect.

Your feedback means a lot. Let me know what you think of the pacing, the structure, or anything that feels confusing. This is your sneak preview—and your chance to help shape how the story is told.



First 3 episodes available now on Patreon and PRETEND+:

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio

PRETEND+ Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>🎧 NEW SERIES: “Cracks in the Fandom” </strong><br></p>
<p>What would you do if you thought your favorite celebrity was stalking <em>you</em>?</p>
<p>That’s exactly what Meghan Walsh claims. She says she’s being harassed by not one, not two—but <em>three</em> stalkers. And one of them? Is <strong>Mariska Hargitay</strong>, best known as Detective Olivia Benson from <em>Law &amp; Order: SVU</em>.</p>
<p>Yeah. I know how that sounds.</p>
<p>But here’s the thing: the more I looked into it, the more the story started to twist. </p>
<p>This new series, <strong>Cracks in the Fandom</strong>, is not about whether Mariska is actually stalking someone (spoiler: come on). It’s about <em>why</em> someone might believe that. What happens when online relationships go sideways. And what’s really going on underneath the noise.</p>
<p>I’m releasing the first <strong>three</strong> <strong>extended cuts</strong> that are ~10 minutes longer than what you'll eventually hear on the public feed. There are <strong>5 episodes total.</strong> </p>
<p>And trust me, this story goes places I did <em>not</em> expect.</p>
<p>Your feedback means a lot. Let me know what you think of the pacing, the structure, or anything that feels confusing. This is your sneak preview—and your chance to help shape how the story is told.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>First 3 episodes available now on Patreon and PRETEND+:</p>
<p>Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio</p>
<p>PRETEND+ Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>2210: The High School Hoax Update</title>
      <description>A 32-year-old woman enrolled herself in three Boston high schools and passed as a teenager. She sat in classrooms, made friends with freshmen, and even joined the girls basketball team. She wore number 32 on her jersey, which also happened to be her real age.



This is the story of Shelby Hewitt, a state social worker who lived a double life. For two years, she convinced students, teachers, and administrators that she was a foster kid with nowhere else to go. She built fake social workers and false backstories to make her cover believable.

When PRETEND first aired this episode, there were more questions than answers. Was Shelby trying to relive her youth? Was she gathering information on the kids she worked with? Or was she doing this just for kicks?



In this replay, you will hear the original story and then get the latest updates. Since the episode first aired, new details have emerged about the extent of her lies and who got caught up in them. We will also examine the criminal charges she is currently facing.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The High School Hoax Update</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>A 32-year-old woman enrolled herself in three Boston high schools and passed as a teenager. She sat in classrooms, made friends with freshmen, and even joined the girls basketball team. She wore number 32 on her jersey, which also happened to be her real age.



This is the story of Shelby Hewitt, a state social worker who lived a double life. For two years, she convinced students, teachers, and administrators that she was a foster kid with nowhere else to go. She built fake social workers and false backstories to make her cover believable.

When PRETEND first aired this episode, there were more questions than answers. Was Shelby trying to relive her youth? Was she gathering information on the kids she worked with? Or was she doing this just for kicks?



In this replay, you will hear the original story and then get the latest updates. Since the episode first aired, new details have emerged about the extent of her lies and who got caught up in them. We will also examine the criminal charges she is currently facing.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>A 32-year-old woman enrolled herself in three Boston high schools and passed as a teenager. She sat in classrooms, made friends with freshmen, and even joined the girls basketball team. She wore number 32 on her jersey, which also happened to be her real age.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>This is the story of Shelby Hewitt, a state social worker who lived a double life. For two years, she convinced students, teachers, and administrators that she was a foster kid with nowhere else to go. She built fake social workers and false backstories to make her cover believable.</p>
<p>When PRETEND first aired this episode, there were more questions than answers. Was Shelby trying to relive her youth? Was she gathering information on the kids she worked with? Or was she doing this just for kicks?</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>In this replay, you will hear the original story and then get the latest updates. Since the episode first aired, new details have emerged about the extent of her lies and who got caught up in them. We will also examine the criminal charges she is currently facing.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1957</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2209: The Stalker: Rick Fernandez’s Guilty Plea</title>
      <description>Breaking news in the stalker case: Rick Fernandez has pleaded guilty to harassment. Instead of facing trial, he admitted responsibility for a new wave of harassment tied to the book he published while awaiting trial on felony charges.

His sentence? 180 days in jail (suspended) along with three years of probation. If Rick contacts the victims directly or indirectly, he risks going to jail and facing new charges.

In this episode, I dig into what this guilty plea really means, and you’ll also hear from Rick’s sister, Olivia Fernandez, who shares her complicated reaction to the news.

The big question is: will Rick finally stop the harassment, or is this just another chapter in a story that refuses to end?
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stalker: Rick Fernandez’s Guilty Plea</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>Breaking news in the stalker case: Rick Fernandez has pleaded guilty to harassment. Instead of facing trial, he admitted responsibility for a new wave of harassment tied to the book he published while awaiting trial on felony charges.

His sentence? 180 days in jail (suspended) along with three years of probation. If Rick contacts the victims directly or indirectly, he risks going to jail and facing new charges.

In this episode, I dig into what this guilty plea really means, and you’ll also hear from Rick’s sister, Olivia Fernandez, who shares her complicated reaction to the news.

The big question is: will Rick finally stop the harassment, or is this just another chapter in a story that refuses to end?
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Breaking news in the stalker case: Rick Fernandez has pleaded guilty to harassment. Instead of facing trial, he admitted responsibility for a new wave of harassment tied to the book he published while awaiting trial on felony charges.</p>
<p>His sentence? 180 days in jail (suspended) along with three years of probation. If Rick contacts the victims directly or indirectly, he risks going to jail and facing new charges.</p>
<p>In this episode, I dig into what this guilty plea really means, and you’ll also hear from Rick’s sister, Olivia Fernandez, who shares her complicated reaction to the news.</p>
<p>The big question is: will Rick finally stop the harassment, or is this just another chapter in a story that refuses to end?</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>745</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2208: The Monster</title>
      <description>Listener discretion is advised. This episode contains discussions of sexual abuse and may not be suitable for all audiences.



In 1964, Winston Moseley stalked and murdered Kitty Genovese. The case became infamous not only for its brutality but also for the silence of neighbors who heard her cries and did nothing. During his trial, Moseley confessed to other killings, including the murder of 15-year-old Barbara Kralik. But another man, Alvin Mitchell, had already confessed to that crime. Two men. Two confessions. One murder.



This episode is not just about Barbara Kralik’s death. It is about Alvin Mitchell, who later reinvented himself as a minister and claimed he was a wrongfully convicted man saved by God. Behind that testimony, his children say Alvin was hiding decades of abuse.



You will hear from Naomi, one of Alvin’s daughters, and Pastor Pete, a prison minister who once worked alongside Alvin. And for the first time, you will hear Alvin himself as I confront him directly.

This is a story about the cost of looking away.



👉 Support independent investigative storytelling. Join PRETEND on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio



Fraud Uncovered by Trade Winds

October 01, 2025 11:30 am - 1:30 pm



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      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2025 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Monster</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>Listener discretion is advised. This episode contains discussions of sexual abuse and may not be suitable for all audiences.



In 1964, Winston Moseley stalked and murdered Kitty Genovese. The case became infamous not only for its brutality but also for the silence of neighbors who heard her cries and did nothing. During his trial, Moseley confessed to other killings, including the murder of 15-year-old Barbara Kralik. But another man, Alvin Mitchell, had already confessed to that crime. Two men. Two confessions. One murder.



This episode is not just about Barbara Kralik’s death. It is about Alvin Mitchell, who later reinvented himself as a minister and claimed he was a wrongfully convicted man saved by God. Behind that testimony, his children say Alvin was hiding decades of abuse.



You will hear from Naomi, one of Alvin’s daughters, and Pastor Pete, a prison minister who once worked alongside Alvin. And for the first time, you will hear Alvin himself as I confront him directly.

This is a story about the cost of looking away.



👉 Support independent investigative storytelling. Join PRETEND on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio



Fraud Uncovered by Trade Winds

October 01, 2025 11:30 am - 1:30 pm



Register here:

https://lp.constantcontactpages.com/ev/reg/rvcxhpf/lp/3e23dfff-59f6-4be9-82b2-821afd2293b1?mode=preview&amp;source_id=34206647-f2bd-4bc3-9c6a-4f3882a86833&amp;source_type=em&amp;c=



To book Javier Leiva for keynotes, workshops, or speaking events, visit pretendradio.org


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>Listener discretion is advised. This episode contains discussions of sexual abuse and may not be suitable for all audiences.</strong></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>In 1964, Winston Moseley stalked and murdered Kitty Genovese. The case became infamous not only for its brutality but also for the silence of neighbors who heard her cries and did nothing. During his trial, Moseley confessed to other killings, including the murder of 15-year-old Barbara Kralik. But another man, Alvin Mitchell, had already confessed to that crime. Two men. Two confessions. One murder.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>This episode is not just about Barbara Kralik’s death. It is about Alvin Mitchell, who later reinvented himself as a minister and claimed he was a wrongfully convicted man saved by God. Behind that testimony, his children say Alvin was hiding decades of abuse.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>You will hear from Naomi, one of Alvin’s daughters, and Pastor Pete, a prison minister who once worked alongside Alvin. And for the first time, you will hear Alvin himself as I confront him directly.</p>
<p>This is a story about the cost of looking away.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>👉 Support independent investigative storytelling. Join PRETEND on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio">Patreon</a>: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Fraud Uncovered by Trade Winds</p>
<p>October 01, 2025 11:30 am - 1:30 pm</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Register here:</p>
<p>https://lp.constantcontactpages.com/ev/reg/rvcxhpf/lp/3e23dfff-59f6-4be9-82b2-821afd2293b1?mode=preview&amp;source_id=34206647-f2bd-4bc3-9c6a-4f3882a86833&amp;source_type=em&amp;c=</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>To book Javier Leiva for keynotes, workshops, or speaking events, visit pretendradio.org</p>
<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>2208: State of Corruption: Ohio part 2</title>
      <description>Tyler Fehrman went undercover for the FBI after his mentor, Ohio GOP chair Matt Borges, offered him a $15,000 check. His recordings helped uncover a $63 million bribery scheme that brought down House Speaker Larry Householder.

This is Part Two of State of Corruption from Pretend.



Credits: Portions of this episode reference material from the HBO documentary Dark Money Games.Written and Produced by: Javier Leiva &amp; Mackenzie AmesEditor: Puneeth Shenoy with Podcast Pundits



Listening on Spotify?

 Scroll down and leave a comment on this episode. Tell me what corruption stories are happening in your state.


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      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2025 06:59:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>State of Corruption: Ohio part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>Tyler Fehrman went undercover for the FBI after his mentor, Ohio GOP chair Matt Borges, offered him a $15,000 check. His recordings helped uncover a $63 million bribery scheme that brought down House Speaker Larry Householder.

This is Part Two of State of Corruption from Pretend.



Credits: Portions of this episode reference material from the HBO documentary Dark Money Games.Written and Produced by: Javier Leiva &amp; Mackenzie AmesEditor: Puneeth Shenoy with Podcast Pundits



Listening on Spotify?

 Scroll down and leave a comment on this episode. Tell me what corruption stories are happening in your state.


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Tyler Fehrman went undercover for the FBI after his mentor, Ohio GOP chair Matt Borges, offered him a $15,000 check. His recordings helped uncover a $63 million bribery scheme that brought down House Speaker Larry Householder.</p>
<p>This is Part Two of <em>State of Corruption</em> from <em>Pretend</em>.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Credits:</strong> Portions of this episode reference material from the HBO documentary <em>Dark Money Games</em>.<br><strong>Written and Produced by:</strong> Javier Leiva &amp; Mackenzie Ames<br><strong>Editor:</strong> Puneeth Shenoy with <a href="https://podcastpundits.com/?utm_source=chatgpt.com">Podcast Pundits</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Listening on Spotify?</strong></p>
<p> Scroll down and leave a comment on this episode. Tell me what corruption stories are happening in your state.</p>
<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2437</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2207: State of Corruption: Ohio part 1</title>
      <description>Tyler Fehrman went undercover to bring down the Speaker of the Ohio House. He wore a wire. He met with mentors who turned into suspects. He risked everything.

This is the story of how one political insider helped expose a billion-dollar corruption scheme at the heart of Ohio politics.



Part two will be available on Patreon and PRETEND+ this weekend. Stay tuned



Credits: Portions of this episode reference material from the HBO documentary Dark Money Games.

Written and Produced by: Javier Leiva &amp; Mackenzie AmesEditor: Puneeth Shenoy with https://podcastpundits.com/Theme Music: by Thechicken.net
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      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2025 11:59:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>State of Corruption: Ohio part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/266f0f50-e822-11ef-97f0-b3c4bdbeccb3/image/1b6062becbaea9356afd71023a443443.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>Tyler Fehrman went undercover to bring down the Speaker of the Ohio House. He wore a wire. He met with mentors who turned into suspects. He risked everything.

This is the story of how one political insider helped expose a billion-dollar corruption scheme at the heart of Ohio politics.



Part two will be available on Patreon and PRETEND+ this weekend. Stay tuned



Credits: Portions of this episode reference material from the HBO documentary Dark Money Games.

Written and Produced by: Javier Leiva &amp; Mackenzie AmesEditor: Puneeth Shenoy with https://podcastpundits.com/Theme Music: by Thechicken.net
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Tyler Fehrman went undercover to bring down the Speaker of the Ohio House. He wore a wire. He met with mentors who turned into suspects. He risked everything.</p>
<p>This is the story of how one political insider helped expose a billion-dollar corruption scheme at the heart of Ohio politics.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><em><strong>Part two will be available on Patreon and PRETEND+ this weekend. Stay tuned</strong></em></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Credits:</strong> Portions of this episode reference material from the HBO documentary <em>Dark Money Games</em>.</p>
<p><strong>Written and Produced by:</strong> Javier Leiva &amp; Mackenzie Ames<br><strong>Editor:</strong> Puneeth Shenoy with <a href="https://podcastpundits.com/">https://podcastpundits.com/</a><br><strong>Theme Music:</strong> by <a href="https://Thechicken.net">Thechicken.net</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2205</itunes:duration>
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      <title>The Real Donnie Brasco - FBI Case File Review</title>
      <description>If you’re a longtime listener, you probably remember my interview with Joe Pistone, the real Donnie Brasco. But I forgot to ask one important question: Where did the name Donnie Brasco even come from?

Turns out, it wasn’t made up. Donnie Brasco is a real person. He’s Joe Pistone’s nephew. And not just any nephew — an undercover FBI agent who followed in his uncle’s footsteps.

This story blew my mind, and I wouldn’t have known about it if it weren’t for my friend and fellow podcaster Jerri Williams, host of FBI Case File Review. Jerri interviewed both Joe Pistone and the real Donnie Brasco. Yes, both of them.

This might be the FBI’s worst-kept secret, and it’s finally out. This is history being rewritten, and I had to share it with you. So here it is... Part 1 of JerrI’s episode, re-shared with her blessing.



Subscribe to FBI Case File Review: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2PG0LHyYjKH7hWTtql3Lfo?si=c55ae6e3d47a4142



Learn more: https://jerriwilliams.com/367-donnie-brasco-following-in-the-footsteps-of-uncle-joe-pistone-part-1/
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      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>If you’re a longtime listener, you probably remember my interview with Joe Pistone, the real Donnie Brasco. But I forgot to ask one important question: Where did the name Donnie Brasco even come from?

Turns out, it wasn’t made up. Donnie Brasco is a real person. He’s Joe Pistone’s nephew. And not just any nephew — an undercover FBI agent who followed in his uncle’s footsteps.

This story blew my mind, and I wouldn’t have known about it if it weren’t for my friend and fellow podcaster Jerri Williams, host of FBI Case File Review. Jerri interviewed both Joe Pistone and the real Donnie Brasco. Yes, both of them.

This might be the FBI’s worst-kept secret, and it’s finally out. This is history being rewritten, and I had to share it with you. So here it is... Part 1 of JerrI’s episode, re-shared with her blessing.



Subscribe to FBI Case File Review: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2PG0LHyYjKH7hWTtql3Lfo?si=c55ae6e3d47a4142



Learn more: https://jerriwilliams.com/367-donnie-brasco-following-in-the-footsteps-of-uncle-joe-pistone-part-1/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>If you’re a longtime listener, you probably remember my interview with Joe Pistone, the real Donnie Brasco. But I forgot to ask one important question: <em>Where did the name Donnie Brasco even come from?</em></p>
<p>Turns out, it wasn’t made up. Donnie Brasco is a real person. He’s Joe Pistone’s nephew. And not just any nephew — an undercover FBI agent who followed in his uncle’s footsteps.</p>
<p>This story blew my mind, and I wouldn’t have known about it if it weren’t for my friend and fellow podcaster Jerri Williams, host of FBI Case File Review. Jerri interviewed both Joe Pistone and the real Donnie Brasco. Yes, both of them.</p>
<p>This might be the FBI’s worst-kept secret, and it’s finally out. This is history being rewritten, and I had to share it with you. So here it is... Part 1 of JerrI’s episode, re-shared with her blessing.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Subscribe to FBI Case File Review: https://open.spotify.com/episode/2PG0LHyYjKH7hWTtql3Lfo?si=c55ae6e3d47a4142</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Learn more: https://jerriwilliams.com/367-donnie-brasco-following-in-the-footsteps-of-uncle-joe-pistone-part-1/</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>4300</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2205: Who’s Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey Part 18: The 911 Caller</title>
      <description>A 911 call in Madison County, Arkansas reported what sounded like a violent attack. It should have remained confidential. But when LaDonna Humphrey got involved, that caller’s life was turned upside down.

Now she is caught in a web of harassment, conspiracy theories, and public exposure that puts her safety at risk.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Who’s Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey Part 18: The 911 Caller</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>A 911 call in Madison County, Arkansas reported what sounded like a violent attack. It should have remained confidential. But when LaDonna Humphrey got involved, that caller’s life was turned upside down.

Now she is caught in a web of harassment, conspiracy theories, and public exposure that puts her safety at risk.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>A 911 call in Madison County, Arkansas reported what sounded like a violent attack. It should have remained confidential. But when LaDonna Humphrey got involved, that caller’s life was turned upside down.</p>
<p>Now she is caught in a web of harassment, conspiracy theories, and public exposure that puts her safety at risk.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3328</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2204: Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 17</title>
      <description>LaDonna Humphrey has spent years trying to overturn a $3.57 million judgment. But in a rare legal move, her right to appeal was sold in bankruptcy court — to the very person she was fighting, Anthony Christopher.

In this episode, you'll hear directly from Anthony Christopher as he reacts to the latest court decision. I also spoke with law professor Joshua M. Silverstein from the University of Arkansas at Little Rock and Mark Friedman from Arkansas Business, who explained how this type of sale is even possible. 

If you want to hear my full bonus conversation with Professor Silverstein, you can find it here:👉 https://www.patreon.com/posts/yes-person-who-135873336

And if you’re just now joining the story, binge the entire series:🎧 Who’s Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey on Spotify👉 https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2LOnqAGe8D4JQ4bAwjGn9P?si=2a376d2f740443ee

Stick around — next week in Part 18, we dig into new allegations of harassment. This time, the alleged victim is a 911 caller and a key witness to a murder case. You don’t want to miss it.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 17</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>LaDonna Humphrey has spent years trying to overturn a $3.57 million judgment. But in a rare legal move, her right to appeal was sold in bankruptcy court — to the very person she was fighting, Anthony Christopher.

In this episode, you'll hear directly from Anthony Christopher as he reacts to the latest court decision. I also spoke with law professor Joshua M. Silverstein from the University of Arkansas at Little Rock and Mark Friedman from Arkansas Business, who explained how this type of sale is even possible. 

If you want to hear my full bonus conversation with Professor Silverstein, you can find it here:👉 https://www.patreon.com/posts/yes-person-who-135873336

And if you’re just now joining the story, binge the entire series:🎧 Who’s Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey on Spotify👉 https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2LOnqAGe8D4JQ4bAwjGn9P?si=2a376d2f740443ee

Stick around — next week in Part 18, we dig into new allegations of harassment. This time, the alleged victim is a 911 caller and a key witness to a murder case. You don’t want to miss it.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>LaDonna Humphrey has spent years trying to overturn a $3.57 million judgment. But in a rare legal move, her right to appeal was sold in bankruptcy court — to the very person she was fighting, Anthony Christopher.</p>
<p>In this episode, you'll hear directly from Anthony Christopher as he reacts to the latest court decision. I also spoke with law professor Joshua M. Silverstein from the University of Arkansas at Little Rock and Mark Friedman from Arkansas Business, who explained how this type of sale is even possible. </p>
<p>If you want to hear my full bonus conversation with Professor Silverstein, you can find it here:<br>👉 <a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/yes-person-who-135873336">https://www.patreon.com/posts/yes-person-who-135873336</a></p>
<p>And if you’re just now joining the story, binge the entire series:<br>🎧 <em>Who’s Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey</em> on Spotify<br>👉 <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2LOnqAGe8D4JQ4bAwjGn9P?si=2a376d2f740443ee">https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2LOnqAGe8D4JQ4bAwjGn9P?si=2a376d2f740443ee</a></p>
<p>Stick around — next week in Part 18, we dig into new allegations of harassment. This time, the alleged victim is a <strong>911 caller and a key witness to a murder case</strong>. You don’t want to miss it.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1808</itunes:duration>
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      <title>"Nobody Should Believe Me" — When the Advocate Is the Abuser</title>
      <description>This week on PRETEND, we’re bringing you something special: a feed drop from Nobody Should Believe Me, an award-winning investigative true crime podcast created by author Andrea Dunlop.

With over 15 million downloads and a spot on The New York Times' radar as “a rich and harrowing chronicle of the condition,” this show dives deep into one of the most disturbing forms of abuse—Munchausen by Proxy. Told through the voices of survivors and leading experts, Nobody Should Believe Me pulls back the curtain on cases that are as heartbreaking as they are eye-opening.

Season Six unpacks the devastating saga of the McDaniel family—a true Southern Gothic story of generational trauma and medical child abuse that has haunted those involved for decades.

And here’s some exciting news: PRETEND is now part of Andrea Dunlop’s new true crime podcast network, True Story Media. We're proud to be joining forces with storytellers who aren’t afraid to dig into the darkest corners of human behavior.

Listen to Season 6 of Nobody Should Believe Me now:
🎧 https://open.spotify.com/episode/4OBmfOH5umqm6AHKtBNprg?si=963e00595cd740c0
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      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2025 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2595b462-e822-11ef-97f0-5f5a8700ecad/image/8c6b3191378f9bcc212a610571d2dc5f.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>This week on PRETEND, we’re bringing you something special: a feed drop from Nobody Should Believe Me, an award-winning investigative true crime podcast created by author Andrea Dunlop.

With over 15 million downloads and a spot on The New York Times' radar as “a rich and harrowing chronicle of the condition,” this show dives deep into one of the most disturbing forms of abuse—Munchausen by Proxy. Told through the voices of survivors and leading experts, Nobody Should Believe Me pulls back the curtain on cases that are as heartbreaking as they are eye-opening.

Season Six unpacks the devastating saga of the McDaniel family—a true Southern Gothic story of generational trauma and medical child abuse that has haunted those involved for decades.

And here’s some exciting news: PRETEND is now part of Andrea Dunlop’s new true crime podcast network, True Story Media. We're proud to be joining forces with storytellers who aren’t afraid to dig into the darkest corners of human behavior.

Listen to Season 6 of Nobody Should Believe Me now:
🎧 https://open.spotify.com/episode/4OBmfOH5umqm6AHKtBNprg?si=963e00595cd740c0
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week on PRETEND, we’re bringing you something special: a feed drop from <em>Nobody Should Believe Me</em>, an award-winning investigative true crime podcast created by author Andrea Dunlop.</p>
<p>With over 15 million downloads and a spot on The New York Times' radar as “a rich and harrowing chronicle of the condition,” this show dives deep into one of the most disturbing forms of abuse—Munchausen by Proxy. Told through the voices of survivors and leading experts, <em>Nobody Should Believe Me</em> pulls back the curtain on cases that are as heartbreaking as they are eye-opening.</p>
<p>Season Six unpacks the devastating saga of the McDaniel family—a true Southern Gothic story of generational trauma and medical child abuse that has haunted those involved for decades.</p>
<p>And here’s some exciting news: PRETEND is now part of Andrea Dunlop’s new true crime podcast network, <strong>True Story Media</strong>. We're proud to be joining forces with storytellers who aren’t afraid to dig into the darkest corners of human behavior.</p>
<p>Listen to Season 6 of <em>Nobody Should Believe Me</em> now:<br>
🎧 <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/4OBmfOH5umqm6AHKtBNprg?si=963e00595cd740c0">https://open.spotify.com/episode/4OBmfOH5umqm6AHKtBNprg?si=963e00595cd740c0</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3165</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2203: The Playwright part 3</title>
      <description>Melanie dies. Jayson takes control of her estate. Then he moves in with her mother.

Her children are stunned. They suspect something isn’t right, especially as questions about Melanie’s will and health begin to surface. Jayson was the last person caring for her before she passed.

Just when we think the story is over, another woman comes forward. We’re calling her Julie. She says she was seeing Jayson during this same time.

In this episode, we unravel what really happened after Melanie’s death and why her family is still looking for answers.



Written and Produced by: Javier Leiva &amp; Mackenzie AmesEditor: Puneeth Shenoy with https://podcastpundits.com/Theme Music: by Thechicken.net
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      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2025 13:27:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>Melanie dies. Jayson takes control of her estate. Then he moves in with her mother.

Her children are stunned. They suspect something isn’t right, especially as questions about Melanie’s will and health begin to surface. Jayson was the last person caring for her before she passed.

Just when we think the story is over, another woman comes forward. We’re calling her Julie. She says she was seeing Jayson during this same time.

In this episode, we unravel what really happened after Melanie’s death and why her family is still looking for answers.



Written and Produced by: Javier Leiva &amp; Mackenzie AmesEditor: Puneeth Shenoy with https://podcastpundits.com/Theme Music: by Thechicken.net
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Melanie dies. Jayson takes control of her estate. Then he moves in with her mother.</p>
<p>Her children are stunned. They suspect something isn’t right, especially as questions about Melanie’s will and health begin to surface. Jayson was the last person caring for her before she passed.</p>
<p>Just when we think the story is over, another woman comes forward. We’re calling her Julie. She says she was seeing Jayson during this same time.</p>
<p>In this episode, we unravel what really happened after Melanie’s death and why her family is still looking for answers.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Written and Produced by:</strong> Javier Leiva &amp; Mackenzie Ames<br><strong>Editor:</strong> Puneeth Shenoy with <a href="https://podcastpundits.com/">https://podcastpundits.com/</a><br><strong>Theme Music:</strong> by <a href="https://Thechicken.net">Thechicken.net</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2632</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2202: The Playwright part 2</title>
      <description>In Part 2 of The Playwright, we shift focus to the show at the center of it all: The History of Now. 

Written and directed by Jason Bartlett, the play was billed as a bold, political drama. It was a plan meant to honor a woman he claimed to love. But former cast members and collaborators started noticing red flags. Was this play ever really meant to open? Or was it all just a front? 

Was The History of Now a sincere artistic project...or just another performance? 

Written and Produced by: Javier Leiva &amp; Mackenzie AmesEditor: Puneeth ShenoyTheme Music: by Thechicken.net

Episode Credits: 
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      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Playwright part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>In Part 2 of The Playwright, we shift focus to the show at the center of it all: The History of Now. 

Written and directed by Jason Bartlett, the play was billed as a bold, political drama. It was a plan meant to honor a woman he claimed to love. But former cast members and collaborators started noticing red flags. Was this play ever really meant to open? Or was it all just a front? 

Was The History of Now a sincere artistic project...or just another performance? 

Written and Produced by: Javier Leiva &amp; Mackenzie AmesEditor: Puneeth ShenoyTheme Music: by Thechicken.net

Episode Credits: 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In Part 2 of <em>The Playwright</em>, we shift focus to the show at the center of it all: <em>The History of Now</em>. </p>
<p>Written and directed by Jason Bartlett, the play was billed as a bold, political drama. It was a plan meant to honor a woman he claimed to love. But former cast members and collaborators started noticing red flags. Was this play ever really meant to open? Or was it all just a front? </p>
<p>Was <em>The History of Now</em> a sincere artistic project...or just another performance? </p>
<p><strong>Written and Produced by:</strong> Javier Leiva &amp; Mackenzie Ames<br><strong>Editor:</strong> Puneeth Shenoy<br><strong>Theme Music:</strong> by <a href="https://Thechicken.net">Thechicken.net</a></p>
<p>Episode Credits: </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2359</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2201: The Playwright part 1</title>
      <description>In this episode, we investigate the mysterious Jayson Bartlett and the many women whose lives he upended.

Emma was a single mother in England who fell for Bartlett’s charm and artistic persona. At first, everything seemed perfect. But soon, she realized she was being gaslit, lied to, and emotionally manipulated.

Then there’s Melanie. She lived in North Carolina and had been diagnosed with a terminal illness. She thought she had found love and a creative partner. Instead, Jayson took control of her finances and disappeared.



Episode Credits: 

Written and Produced by: Javier Leiva &amp; Mackenzie AmesEditor: Puneeth ShenoyTheme Music: by Thechicken.net



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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Playwright part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>22</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode, we investigate the mysterious Jayson Bartlett and the many women whose lives he upended.

Emma was a single mother in England who fell for Bartlett’s charm and artistic persona. At first, everything seemed perfect. But soon, she realized she was being gaslit, lied to, and emotionally manipulated.

Then there’s Melanie. She lived in North Carolina and had been diagnosed with a terminal illness. She thought she had found love and a creative partner. Instead, Jayson took control of her finances and disappeared.



Episode Credits: 

Written and Produced by: Javier Leiva &amp; Mackenzie AmesEditor: Puneeth ShenoyTheme Music: by Thechicken.net



🔓 Get Early Access:

Hear the next episode early and unlock bonus content by subscribing to:Pretend Plus on Apple - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985

Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/c/pretendradio
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we investigate the mysterious Jayson Bartlett and the many women whose lives he upended.</p>
<p>Emma was a single mother in England who fell for Bartlett’s charm and artistic persona. At first, everything seemed perfect. But soon, she realized she was being gaslit, lied to, and emotionally manipulated.</p>
<p>Then there’s Melanie. She lived in North Carolina and had been diagnosed with a terminal illness. She thought she had found love and a creative partner. Instead, Jayson took control of her finances and disappeared.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Episode Credits: </p>
<p><strong>Written and Produced by:</strong> Javier Leiva &amp; Mackenzie Ames<br><strong>Editor:</strong> Puneeth Shenoy<br><strong>Theme Music:</strong> by <a href="https://Thechicken.net">Thechicken.net</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>🔓 Get Early Access:</p>
<p>Hear the next episode early and unlock bonus content by subscribing to:<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985">Pretend Plus on Apple</a> - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985</p>
<p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/c/pretendradio">Patreon</a> - https://www.patreon.com/c/pretendradio</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2635</itunes:duration>
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      <title>BONUS: The Digital Trail to Epstein’s Island</title>
      <description>What if your phone could place you at the scene of a crime—years later?



In this bonus episode of PRETEND, we uncover how nearly 200 mobile devices that visited Jeffrey Epstein’s private island left behind invisible data trails. Using just a free trial from a location data broker, an outsider was able to map those devices back to homes, offices, and even gated communities across the U.S.



This episode dives into how mobile advertising IDs—those “anonymous” trackers buried inside your apps—are being used to surveil people without their knowledge. It’s not just Epstein’s guests. Similar tactics were used to target abortion clinic visitors in Wisconsin… and the law hasn’t kept up.



Sources and Further Reading:



WIRED: Location Data From Phones Used to Track Epstein Island Visitors

https://www.wired.com/video/watch/we-tracked-every-visitor-to-epstein-island



Motherboard (VICE): A Data Broker Was Selling Location Data on People Who Visited Abortion Clinics

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/02/meet-abortion-bans-new-best-friend-your-phone/



EPIC.org: Data Broker Helped Anti-Abortion Group Target Planned Parenthood Visitors

https://epic.org/data-broker-helped-anti-abortion-group-target-planned-parenthood-visitors-wyden-letter-reveals/



U.S. Congress: American Data Privacy and Protection Act (ADPPA)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Data_Privacy_and_Protection_Act
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>What if your phone could place you at the scene of a crime—years later?



In this bonus episode of PRETEND, we uncover how nearly 200 mobile devices that visited Jeffrey Epstein’s private island left behind invisible data trails. Using just a free trial from a location data broker, an outsider was able to map those devices back to homes, offices, and even gated communities across the U.S.



This episode dives into how mobile advertising IDs—those “anonymous” trackers buried inside your apps—are being used to surveil people without their knowledge. It’s not just Epstein’s guests. Similar tactics were used to target abortion clinic visitors in Wisconsin… and the law hasn’t kept up.



Sources and Further Reading:



WIRED: Location Data From Phones Used to Track Epstein Island Visitors

https://www.wired.com/video/watch/we-tracked-every-visitor-to-epstein-island



Motherboard (VICE): A Data Broker Was Selling Location Data on People Who Visited Abortion Clinics

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/02/meet-abortion-bans-new-best-friend-your-phone/



EPIC.org: Data Broker Helped Anti-Abortion Group Target Planned Parenthood Visitors

https://epic.org/data-broker-helped-anti-abortion-group-target-planned-parenthood-visitors-wyden-letter-reveals/



U.S. Congress: American Data Privacy and Protection Act (ADPPA)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Data_Privacy_and_Protection_Act
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>What if your phone could place you at the scene of a crime—years later?</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>In this bonus episode of PRETEND, we uncover how nearly 200 mobile devices that visited Jeffrey Epstein’s private island left behind invisible data trails. Using just a free trial from a location data broker, an outsider was able to map those devices back to homes, offices, and even gated communities across the U.S.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>This episode dives into how mobile advertising IDs—those “anonymous” trackers buried inside your apps—are being used to surveil people without their knowledge. It’s not just Epstein’s guests. Similar tactics were used to target abortion clinic visitors in Wisconsin… and the law hasn’t kept up.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Sources and Further Reading:</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>WIRED: Location Data From Phones Used to Track Epstein Island Visitors</p>
<p>https://www.wired.com/video/watch/we-tracked-every-visitor-to-epstein-island</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Motherboard (VICE): A Data Broker Was Selling Location Data on People Who Visited Abortion Clinics</p>
<p>https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/02/meet-abortion-bans-new-best-friend-your-phone/</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>EPIC.org: Data Broker Helped Anti-Abortion Group Target Planned Parenthood Visitors</p>
<p>https://epic.org/data-broker-helped-anti-abortion-group-target-planned-parenthood-visitors-wyden-letter-reveals/</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>U.S. Congress: American Data Privacy and Protection Act (ADPPA)</p>
<p>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Data_Privacy_and_Protection_Act</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>792</itunes:duration>
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      <title>The Pale Faced Lie Revisited</title>
      <description>David Crow says he was his father's criminal accomplice.

In today's episode, we delve into the extraordinary story of David Crow, author of the book titled "The Pale-Faced Lie." It's the story of a father and son entangled in a life of crime.

David recounts his experiences as his father's criminal accomplice, always by his side. And what it was like growing up with a violent and convicted felon who used the Native American reservation as a refuge to evade his enemies.

This episode is the story of a young boy grappling with his place in the world, torn between his father's influence and his desire for a different path.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2025 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>David Crow says he was his father's criminal accomplice.

In today's episode, we delve into the extraordinary story of David Crow, author of the book titled "The Pale-Faced Lie." It's the story of a father and son entangled in a life of crime.

David recounts his experiences as his father's criminal accomplice, always by his side. And what it was like growing up with a violent and convicted felon who used the Native American reservation as a refuge to evade his enemies.

This episode is the story of a young boy grappling with his place in the world, torn between his father's influence and his desire for a different path.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>David Crow says he was his father's criminal accomplice.</p>
<p>In today's episode, we delve into the extraordinary story of David Crow, author of the book titled "The Pale-Faced Lie." It's the story of a father and son entangled in a life of crime.</p>
<p>David recounts his experiences as his father's criminal accomplice, always by his side. And what it was like growing up with a violent and convicted felon who used the Native American reservation as a refuge to evade his enemies.</p>
<p>This episode is the story of a young boy grappling with his place in the world, torn between his father's influence and his desire for a different path.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2690</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2111: The Stalker - New Charges part 21</title>
      <description>Rick Fernandez—yes, the same Rick who thought he’d escaped six felonies—just got slapped with brand-new criminal charges in Phoenix Municipal Court. I flew in a court-runner to watch the hearing, dug through fresh police files, and pieced together how a self-published book and two midnight phone calls may blow up Rick &amp; Tanya’s “clean-slate” diversion deal.



🎧 New to this saga?

Binge the entire 20-part series first: The Stalker — Season 12 playlist on Spotify. Start there, then come right back.



🗂️ Docs &amp; extras


  
PDF of the new criminal complaint



  
Snippet from Layers of Attack




All available for Pretend + supporters



🤝 Support the Show


  
Patreon / Apple Pretend + for early drops, bonus tapes, and deep-dive documents.



  
Rate &amp; review PRETEND on your favorite app—helps new listeners find the show!




Host / Reporting: Javier LeivaCourt-runner: Tore LynnTheme: TheChicken.net

© 2025 Creative Babble
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stalker - New Charges part 21</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/248c90fe-e822-11ef-97f0-8f979771ef56/image/b71c115980c549258874487f50580fc2.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>Rick Fernandez—yes, the same Rick who thought he’d escaped six felonies—just got slapped with brand-new criminal charges in Phoenix Municipal Court. I flew in a court-runner to watch the hearing, dug through fresh police files, and pieced together how a self-published book and two midnight phone calls may blow up Rick &amp; Tanya’s “clean-slate” diversion deal.



🎧 New to this saga?

Binge the entire 20-part series first: The Stalker — Season 12 playlist on Spotify. Start there, then come right back.



🗂️ Docs &amp; extras


  
PDF of the new criminal complaint



  
Snippet from Layers of Attack




All available for Pretend + supporters



🤝 Support the Show


  
Patreon / Apple Pretend + for early drops, bonus tapes, and deep-dive documents.



  
Rate &amp; review PRETEND on your favorite app—helps new listeners find the show!




Host / Reporting: Javier LeivaCourt-runner: Tore LynnTheme: TheChicken.net

© 2025 Creative Babble
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Rick Fernandez—yes, the same Rick who thought he’d escaped six felonies—just got slapped with <strong>brand-new criminal charges</strong> in Phoenix Municipal Court. I flew in a court-runner to watch the hearing, dug through fresh police files, and pieced together how a self-published book and two midnight phone calls may blow up Rick &amp; Tanya’s “clean-slate” diversion deal.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>🎧 New to this saga?</p>
<p>Binge the entire 20-part series first: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/41KG24W8b5Lz0dzHsU3LoP?si=98d0dbd93fb5421a">The Stalker — Season 12 playlist on Spotify</a>. Start there, then come right back.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>🗂️ Docs &amp; extras</p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p>PDF of the new criminal complaint</p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Snippet from <em>Layers of Attack</em></p>
</li>
</ul>
<p>All available for Pretend + supporters</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>🤝 Support the Show</p>
<ul>
  <li>
<p><strong>Patreon / Apple Pretend +</strong> for early drops, bonus tapes, and deep-dive documents.</p>
</li>
  <li>
<p>Rate &amp; review PRETEND on your favorite app—helps new listeners find the show!</p>
</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>Host / Reporting:</strong> Javier Leiva<br><strong>Court-runner:</strong> Tore Lynn<br><strong>Theme:</strong> <a href="https://TheChicken.net">TheChicken.net</a></p>
<p><br>© 2025 Creative Babble</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1941</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2110: Cocaine Air</title>
      <description>This week on PRETEND, we're doing something different. I’m bringing on my friend Johnathan Walton, the mastermind behind Queen of the Con, to share the premiere episode of his brand-new podcast series: Cocaine Air.

Jonathan isn’t just a victim of a con artist—he’s turned his trauma into a storytelling empire. And in Cocaine Air, he tells the true story of TJ Dominguez, a Cuban-American businessman who got scammed out of $100,000 and decided to take matters into his own hands... by becoming one of the world’s biggest cocaine smugglers for Pablo Escobar.

This story is wild, raw, and straight out of the Miami Vice era—but it's all true. If you're into PRETEND, you’re going to love Cocaine Air.

🎙️ Guest: Johnathan Walton🔗 Listen to the full series: CocaineAir.com📚 Preorder Johnathan’s book: Anatomy of a Con Artist: The 14 Red Flags of Scammers, Grifters, and Thieves (Out August 19). 

Also, listen to Johnathan share his personal scam story for the first time on PRETEND: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3ixMjLTNaxf4ONIuktqq7s?si=e80842100f984067If. 

If you liked this episode, text it to a friend who loves true crime. And don’t forget to leave a review for both PRETEND and Cocaine Air. Indie creators like us rely on your support.

—Created and hosted by Javier LeivaFor more episodes, visit pretendradio.org
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Cocaine Air</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>This week on PRETEND, we're doing something different. I’m bringing on my friend Johnathan Walton, the mastermind behind Queen of the Con, to share the premiere episode of his brand-new podcast series: Cocaine Air.

Jonathan isn’t just a victim of a con artist—he’s turned his trauma into a storytelling empire. And in Cocaine Air, he tells the true story of TJ Dominguez, a Cuban-American businessman who got scammed out of $100,000 and decided to take matters into his own hands... by becoming one of the world’s biggest cocaine smugglers for Pablo Escobar.

This story is wild, raw, and straight out of the Miami Vice era—but it's all true. If you're into PRETEND, you’re going to love Cocaine Air.

🎙️ Guest: Johnathan Walton🔗 Listen to the full series: CocaineAir.com📚 Preorder Johnathan’s book: Anatomy of a Con Artist: The 14 Red Flags of Scammers, Grifters, and Thieves (Out August 19). 

Also, listen to Johnathan share his personal scam story for the first time on PRETEND: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3ixMjLTNaxf4ONIuktqq7s?si=e80842100f984067If. 

If you liked this episode, text it to a friend who loves true crime. And don’t forget to leave a review for both PRETEND and Cocaine Air. Indie creators like us rely on your support.

—Created and hosted by Javier LeivaFor more episodes, visit pretendradio.org
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week on <em>PRETEND</em>, we're doing something different. I’m bringing on my friend Johnathan Walton, the mastermind behind <em>Queen of the Con</em>, to share the premiere episode of his brand-new podcast series: <strong>Cocaine Air</strong>.</p>
<p>Jonathan isn’t just a victim of a con artist—he’s turned his trauma into a storytelling empire. And in <em>Cocaine Air</em>, he tells the true story of <strong>TJ Dominguez</strong>, a Cuban-American businessman who got scammed out of $100,000 and decided to take matters into his own hands... by becoming one of the world’s biggest cocaine smugglers for Pablo Escobar.</p>
<p>This story is wild, raw, and straight out of the Miami Vice era—but it's all true. If you're into <em>PRETEND</em>, you’re going to love <em>Cocaine Air</em>.</p>
<p>🎙️ <strong>Guest</strong>: <a href="https://johnathanwalton.com/">Johnathan Walton</a><br>🔗 <strong>Listen to the full series</strong>: <a href="https://CocaineAir.com">CocaineAir.com</a><br>📚 <strong>Preorder Johnathan’s book</strong>: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Anatomy-Artist-Scammers-Grifters-Thieves/dp/0593797167">Anatomy of a Con Artist: The 14 Red Flags of Scammers, Grifters, and Thieves</a> (Out August 19). </p>
<p>Also, listen to Johnathan share his personal scam story for the first time on PRETEND: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/3ixMjLTNaxf4ONIuktqq7s?si=e80842100f984067If.">https://open.spotify.com/episode/3ixMjLTNaxf4ONIuktqq7s?si=e80842100f984067If.</a> </p>
<p>If you liked this episode, text it to a friend who loves true crime. And don’t forget to leave a review for both <em>PRETEND</em> and <em>Cocaine Air</em>. Indie creators like us rely on your support.</p>
<p>—<br>Created and hosted by Javier Leiva<br>For more episodes, visit <a href="https://pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2901</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2109: The Internet Saves the Bachelor part 4</title>
      <description>In part 4 of 'The Internet Saves the Bachelor,' we examine the growing cracks in Laura Owens’ story as her pregnancy timeline collapses under scrutiny.



At one hearing, she claims to be 24 weeks pregnant. In another, she says she miscarried months earlier. The dates keep shifting — July, August, October — and still, no medical provider can confirm that she was ever pregnant. 



Clayton Echard’s legal team seizes on the inconsistencies. They ask the court to dismiss the case, arguing it was filed in bad faith. Sanctions, attorney’s fees, and even questions of criminal liability begin to surface. 



Sources:



SchnitzelNinja69 on YouTube



Dave Neal



Just Jen &amp; Hay Bales – All the Best Research



Justice for Clayton Wiki



Megan Fox on YouTube



Credits:



Written by: Javier Leiva &amp; Mackenzie Ames

Hosted by: Javier Leiva

Music: thechicken.net

Produced by: Creative Babble
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title> The Internet Saves the Bachelor part 4</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2404663e-e822-11ef-97f0-df047c7dad82/image/a3f545b45b832d88e1e100db25894f7b.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>In part 4 of 'The Internet Saves the Bachelor,' we examine the growing cracks in Laura Owens’ story as her pregnancy timeline collapses under scrutiny.



At one hearing, she claims to be 24 weeks pregnant. In another, she says she miscarried months earlier. The dates keep shifting — July, August, October — and still, no medical provider can confirm that she was ever pregnant. 



Clayton Echard’s legal team seizes on the inconsistencies. They ask the court to dismiss the case, arguing it was filed in bad faith. Sanctions, attorney’s fees, and even questions of criminal liability begin to surface. 



Sources:



SchnitzelNinja69 on YouTube



Dave Neal



Just Jen &amp; Hay Bales – All the Best Research



Justice for Clayton Wiki



Megan Fox on YouTube



Credits:



Written by: Javier Leiva &amp; Mackenzie Ames

Hosted by: Javier Leiva

Music: thechicken.net

Produced by: Creative Babble
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In part 4 of 'The Internet Saves the Bachelor,' we examine the growing cracks in Laura Owens’ story as her pregnancy timeline collapses under scrutiny.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>At one hearing, she claims to be 24 weeks pregnant. In another, she says she miscarried months earlier. The dates keep shifting — July, August, October — and still, no medical provider can confirm that she was ever pregnant. </p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Clayton Echard’s legal team seizes on the inconsistencies. They ask the court to dismiss the case, arguing it was filed in bad faith. Sanctions, attorney’s fees, and even questions of criminal liability begin to surface. </p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Sources:</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>SchnitzelNinja69 on YouTube</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Dave Neal</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Just Jen &amp; Hay Bales – All the Best Research</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Justice for Clayton Wiki</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Megan Fox on YouTube</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Credits:</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Written by: Javier Leiva &amp; Mackenzie Ames</p>
<p>Hosted by: Javier Leiva</p>
<p>Music: thechicken.net</p>
<p>Produced by: Creative Babble</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>2108: The Internet Saves the Bachelor part 3</title>
      <description>In Part 3 of The Internet Saves the Bachelor, the truth—or at least, what remains of it—is put on trial.



Laura Owens takes the stand. Under oath, she admits to altering the ultrasound she submitted as evidence. Her pregnancy timeline, once shaky, now completely collapses under cross-examination. The judge wants answers. The internet sleuths want accountability. And Clayton Echard? He just wants this nightmare to end.



Part 4 is available right now on Patreon and PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast



Sources:



SchnitzelNinja69 on YouTube



Dave Neal - https://www.youtube.com/@DaveNealComedian



Just Jen &amp; Hay Bales with https://allthebestresearch.com/



Justice for Clayton - https://justiceforclayton.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page



Megan Fox - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9XP_Ax4_vTi1IqSSRD9ORQ



Credits



Written by: Javier Leiva &amp; Mackenzie Ames



Hosted by: Javier Leiva



Music by thechicken.net
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      <pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Internet Saves the Bachelor part 3</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>In Part 3 of The Internet Saves the Bachelor, the truth—or at least, what remains of it—is put on trial.



Laura Owens takes the stand. Under oath, she admits to altering the ultrasound she submitted as evidence. Her pregnancy timeline, once shaky, now completely collapses under cross-examination. The judge wants answers. The internet sleuths want accountability. And Clayton Echard? He just wants this nightmare to end.



Part 4 is available right now on Patreon and PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast



Sources:



SchnitzelNinja69 on YouTube



Dave Neal - https://www.youtube.com/@DaveNealComedian



Just Jen &amp; Hay Bales with https://allthebestresearch.com/



Justice for Clayton - https://justiceforclayton.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page



Megan Fox - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9XP_Ax4_vTi1IqSSRD9ORQ



Credits



Written by: Javier Leiva &amp; Mackenzie Ames



Hosted by: Javier Leiva



Music by thechicken.net
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In Part 3 of The Internet Saves the Bachelor, the truth—or at least, what remains of it—is put on trial.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Laura Owens takes the stand. Under oath, she admits to altering the ultrasound she submitted as evidence. Her pregnancy timeline, once shaky, now completely collapses under cross-examination. The judge wants answers. The internet sleuths want accountability. And Clayton Echard? He just wants this nightmare to end.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Part 4 is available right now on Patreon and PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Sources:</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>SchnitzelNinja69 on YouTube</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Dave Neal - https://www.youtube.com/@DaveNealComedian</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Just Jen &amp; Hay Bales with https://allthebestresearch.com/</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Justice for Clayton - https://justiceforclayton.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Megan Fox - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9XP_Ax4_vTi1IqSSRD9ORQ</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Credits</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Written by: Javier Leiva &amp; Mackenzie Ames</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Hosted by: Javier Leiva</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Music by thechicken.net</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>2107: The Internet Saves the Bachelor part 2</title>
      <description>The story isn’t over. In Part 2, we dig deeper into the chaos that followed Laura Owens’ accusations against Bachelor star Clayton Echard.



Internet sleuths start pulling court records, police reports, and medical documents. Their findings are wild — fake identities, stolen ultrasounds, and a pregnancy that might never have happened.



Laura pushes back. She sues YouTuber Dave Neal and threatens to sue other podcasters for even discussing the case. In court, she testifies under oath. But her story keeps falling apart.



This episode exposes the internet’s role in fighting back, not with conspiracy theories, but with receipts.



Credits: 

Hosted, Produced: Javier Leiva 

Written by: Mackenzie Ames





References:

⁠https://allthebestresearch.com⁠ 





 Dave Neal's YouTube: ⁠https://youtube.com/@davenealcomedian?si=buUz1EGyODwQ6aGv⁠

https://justiceforclayton.com/wiki/index.php/Laura_Michelle_Owens_-_Court_Case_History

https://www.reddit.com/r/JusticeForClayton/

https://victimsoflauraowens.com/coverage/


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      <pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2025 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Internet Saves the Bachelor part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>The story isn’t over. In Part 2, we dig deeper into the chaos that followed Laura Owens’ accusations against Bachelor star Clayton Echard.



Internet sleuths start pulling court records, police reports, and medical documents. Their findings are wild — fake identities, stolen ultrasounds, and a pregnancy that might never have happened.



Laura pushes back. She sues YouTuber Dave Neal and threatens to sue other podcasters for even discussing the case. In court, she testifies under oath. But her story keeps falling apart.



This episode exposes the internet’s role in fighting back, not with conspiracy theories, but with receipts.



Credits: 

Hosted, Produced: Javier Leiva 

Written by: Mackenzie Ames





References:

⁠https://allthebestresearch.com⁠ 





 Dave Neal's YouTube: ⁠https://youtube.com/@davenealcomedian?si=buUz1EGyODwQ6aGv⁠

https://justiceforclayton.com/wiki/index.php/Laura_Michelle_Owens_-_Court_Case_History

https://www.reddit.com/r/JusticeForClayton/

https://victimsoflauraowens.com/coverage/


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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>The story isn’t over. In Part 2, we dig deeper into the chaos that followed Laura Owens’ accusations against Bachelor star Clayton Echard.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Internet sleuths start pulling court records, police reports, and medical documents. Their findings are wild — fake identities, stolen ultrasounds, and a pregnancy that might never have happened.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Laura pushes back. She sues YouTuber Dave Neal and threatens to sue other podcasters for even discussing the case. In court, she testifies under oath. But her story keeps falling apart.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>This episode exposes the internet’s role in fighting back, not with conspiracy theories, but with receipts.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Credits: </p>
<p>Hosted, Produced: Javier Leiva </p>
<p>Written by: Mackenzie Ames</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>References:</p>
<p>⁠https://allthebestresearch.com⁠ </p>
<p><br></p>
<p><br></p>
<p> Dave Neal's YouTube: ⁠https://youtube.com/@davenealcomedian?si=buUz1EGyODwQ6aGv⁠</p>
<p>https://justiceforclayton.com/wiki/index.php/Laura_Michelle_Owens_-_Court_Case_History</p>
<p>https://www.reddit.com/r/JusticeForClayton/</p>
<p>https://victimsoflauraowens.com/coverage/</p>
<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>2106: The Internet Saves the Bachelor part 1</title>
      <description>After a one-night hookup with a fan-turned-client, former Bachelor star Clayton Echard faced an unexpected legal battle — and public accusations that threatened to ruin his life.
In this episode, we unpack the early timeline of Clayton’s explosive case with Laura Michelle Owens, who claimed she was pregnant with his twins… despite his insistence they never had sex.

But Clayton wasn’t her first target. When no one else believed him, the internet showed up and started pulling Laura’s story apart.



Stayed tuned for part 2 and 3 of the "Internet Saves the Bachelor." Be the first to listen on Patreon and PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast.



Credits:

Hosted, Produced: Javier Leiva

Written by: Mackenzie Ames

Additional Reporting: The Dating Detectives Podcast



References:

https://allthebestresearch.com 



 Dave Neal's YouTube: https://youtube.com/@davenealcomedian?si=buUz1EGyODwQ6aGv

https://justiceforclayton.com/wiki/index.php/Laura_Michelle_Owens_-_Court_Case_History

https://www.reddit.com/r/JusticeForClayton/

https://victimsoflauraowens.com/coverage/


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      <pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2025 11:26:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Internet Saves the Bachelor part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>After a one-night hookup with a fan-turned-client, former Bachelor star Clayton Echard faced an unexpected legal battle — and public accusations that threatened to ruin his life.
In this episode, we unpack the early timeline of Clayton’s explosive case with Laura Michelle Owens, who claimed she was pregnant with his twins… despite his insistence they never had sex.

But Clayton wasn’t her first target. When no one else believed him, the internet showed up and started pulling Laura’s story apart.



Stayed tuned for part 2 and 3 of the "Internet Saves the Bachelor." Be the first to listen on Patreon and PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast.



Credits:

Hosted, Produced: Javier Leiva

Written by: Mackenzie Ames

Additional Reporting: The Dating Detectives Podcast



References:

https://allthebestresearch.com 



 Dave Neal's YouTube: https://youtube.com/@davenealcomedian?si=buUz1EGyODwQ6aGv

https://justiceforclayton.com/wiki/index.php/Laura_Michelle_Owens_-_Court_Case_History

https://www.reddit.com/r/JusticeForClayton/

https://victimsoflauraowens.com/coverage/


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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>After a one-night hookup with a fan-turned-client, former <em>Bachelor</em> star Clayton Echard faced an unexpected legal battle — and public accusations that threatened to ruin his life.<br>
In this episode, we unpack the early timeline of Clayton’s explosive case with Laura Michelle Owens, who claimed she was pregnant with his twins… despite his insistence they never had sex.</p>
<p>But Clayton wasn’t her first target. When no one else believed him, the internet showed up and started pulling Laura’s story apart.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Stayed tuned for part 2 and 3 of the "Internet Saves the Bachelor." Be the first to listen on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio">Patreon</a> and <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985">PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</a>.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Credits:</p>
<p><strong>Hosted, Produced:</strong> Javier Leiva</p>
<p><strong>Written by:</strong> Mackenzie Ames</p>
<p><strong>Additional Reporting:</strong> The Dating Detectives Podcast</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>References:</strong></p>
<p><strong></strong><a href="https://allthebestresearch.com">https://allthebestresearch.com</a> </p>
<p><br></p>
<p> Dave Neal's YouTube: <a href="https://youtube.com/@davenealcomedian?si=buUz1EGyODwQ6aGv">https://youtube.com/@davenealcomedian?si=buUz1EGyODwQ6aGv</a></p>
<p>https://justiceforclayton.com/wiki/index.php/Laura_Michelle_Owens_-_Court_Case_History</p>
<p>https://www.reddit.com/r/JusticeForClayton/</p>
<p>https://victimsoflauraowens.com/coverage/</p>
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      <itunes:duration>1968</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2105: The Man Who Stole 200 Million Identities</title>
      <description>In this episode of PRETEND, recorded live at the GISEC cybersecurity conference in Dubai, I spoke with Hieu Minh Ngo, once one of the most prolific identity thieves in the world. 

Operating out of Vietnam, Hieu stole and sold personal data on over 200 million Americans. We're talking names, birth dates, Social Security numbers—everything you’d need to become someone else.

But he didn’t hack his way in. Instead, he used open-source intelligence and even impersonated a private investigator to gain legal access to massive data broker networks.
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      <pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2025 17:02:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Man Who Stole 200 Million Identities</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode of PRETEND, recorded live at the GISEC cybersecurity conference in Dubai, I spoke with Hieu Minh Ngo, once one of the most prolific identity thieves in the world. 

Operating out of Vietnam, Hieu stole and sold personal data on over 200 million Americans. We're talking names, birth dates, Social Security numbers—everything you’d need to become someone else.

But he didn’t hack his way in. Instead, he used open-source intelligence and even impersonated a private investigator to gain legal access to massive data broker networks.
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>PRETEND</em>, recorded live at the GISEC cybersecurity conference in Dubai, I spoke with Hieu Minh Ngo, once one of the most prolific identity thieves in the world. </p>
<p>Operating out of Vietnam, Hieu stole and sold personal data on over 200 million Americans. We're talking names, birth dates, Social Security numbers—everything you’d need to become someone else.</p>
<p>But he didn’t hack his way in. Instead, he used open-source intelligence and even impersonated a private investigator to gain legal access to massive data broker networks.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1710</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2104: The Digital Pickpocket Revisted</title>
      <description>While speaking at a hacker conference in Dubai, Javier revisits a conversation with professional pickpocket and entertainer James Freedman. James reveals how a childhood scuffle led to a lifelong obsession with the art of pickpocketing, evolving from swiping coins to mastering social engineering and even digital fraud.



🔗 Listen to Part 2Click here for The Digital Pickpocket, Part 2 →

💬 Connect with Javier on social
Instagram/Twitter/TikTok: @pretendpod

🛡 Stay safe:
Learn how to defend yourself against modern pickpockets — both analog and digital.


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      <pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2025 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>While speaking at a hacker conference in Dubai, Javier revisits a conversation with professional pickpocket and entertainer James Freedman. James reveals how a childhood scuffle led to a lifelong obsession with the art of pickpocketing, evolving from swiping coins to mastering social engineering and even digital fraud.



🔗 Listen to Part 2Click here for The Digital Pickpocket, Part 2 →

💬 Connect with Javier on social
Instagram/Twitter/TikTok: @pretendpod

🛡 Stay safe:
Learn how to defend yourself against modern pickpockets — both analog and digital.


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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>While speaking at a hacker conference in Dubai, Javier revisits a conversation with professional pickpocket and entertainer <strong>James Freedman</strong>. James reveals how a childhood scuffle led to a lifelong obsession with the art of pickpocketing, evolving from swiping coins to mastering social engineering and even digital fraud.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>🔗 Listen to Part 2</strong><br><a href="%20%20https://open.spotify.com/episode/32NX2n8oKtXABoQ7el8coO?si=1f316cff4f694e1f">Click here for The Digital Pickpocket, Part 2 →</a></p>
<p><strong>💬 Connect with Javier on social</strong><br>
Instagram/Twitter/TikTok: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod">@pretendpod</a></p>
<p><strong>🛡 Stay safe:</strong><br>
Learn how to defend yourself against modern pickpockets — both analog and digital.</p>
<p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1749</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2103: LaDonna's Easter Egg Hustle</title>
      <description>How LaDonna Humphrey Used a Children's Event to Funnel Money Through Oasis of Northwest Arkansas. 

What happens when a glow-in-the-dark Easter egg hunt turns into a glowing red flag? 

In this bonus episode of PRETEND, host Javier Leiva exposes a so-called family event that promised “magic,” but delivered mayhem — all tied to LaDonna Humphrey and her questionable nonprofit, Oasis of Northwest Arkansas. 

Held at Mt. Hebron Park on April 12, 2025, the event was marketed as an unforgettable glow-in-the-dark Easter experience. According to the Facebook ad, attendees were told to: 

“Embark on an egg-citing adventure under the starry sky..." “Search high and low for luminescent treasures..." “Watch the park come alive with a kaleidoscope of vibrant colors..." “A plethora of prizes and surprises await..."

But in reality, it was more like the FYRE Festival of Easter egg hunts. 

One parent described the event as “no different than any free egg hunt at a church”—except this one cost $50 per family. 

Instead of a kaleidoscope of vibrant colors, this event featured crying kids, confused parents, and a nonprofit operating in the dark, literally and figuratively.

👀 New LaDonna episodes are in the works — featuring new fake accounts, missing persons cases, and a sheriff caught in the crossfire. Stay tuned.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>LaDonna's Easter Egg Hustle</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>How LaDonna Humphrey Used a Children's Event to Funnel Money Through Oasis of Northwest Arkansas. 

What happens when a glow-in-the-dark Easter egg hunt turns into a glowing red flag? 

In this bonus episode of PRETEND, host Javier Leiva exposes a so-called family event that promised “magic,” but delivered mayhem — all tied to LaDonna Humphrey and her questionable nonprofit, Oasis of Northwest Arkansas. 

Held at Mt. Hebron Park on April 12, 2025, the event was marketed as an unforgettable glow-in-the-dark Easter experience. According to the Facebook ad, attendees were told to: 

“Embark on an egg-citing adventure under the starry sky..." “Search high and low for luminescent treasures..." “Watch the park come alive with a kaleidoscope of vibrant colors..." “A plethora of prizes and surprises await..."

But in reality, it was more like the FYRE Festival of Easter egg hunts. 

One parent described the event as “no different than any free egg hunt at a church”—except this one cost $50 per family. 

Instead of a kaleidoscope of vibrant colors, this event featured crying kids, confused parents, and a nonprofit operating in the dark, literally and figuratively.

👀 New LaDonna episodes are in the works — featuring new fake accounts, missing persons cases, and a sheriff caught in the crossfire. Stay tuned.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>How LaDonna Humphrey Used a Children's Event to Funnel Money Through Oasis of Northwest Arkansas. </strong></p>
<p>What happens when a glow-in-the-dark Easter egg hunt turns into a glowing red flag? </p>
<p>In this bonus episode of <em>PRETEND</em>, host Javier Leiva exposes a so-called family event that promised “magic,” but delivered mayhem — all tied to LaDonna Humphrey and her questionable nonprofit, Oasis of Northwest Arkansas. </p>
<p>Held at Mt. Hebron Park on April 12, 2025, the event was marketed as an unforgettable glow-in-the-dark Easter experience. According to the Facebook ad, attendees were told to: </p>
<p>“Embark on an egg-citing adventure under the starry sky..." “Search high and low for luminescent treasures..." “Watch the park come alive with a kaleidoscope of vibrant colors..." “A plethora of prizes and surprises await..."</p>
<p>But in reality, it was more like the FYRE Festival of Easter egg hunts. </p>
<p>One parent described the event as “no different than any free egg hunt at a church”—except this one cost $50 per family. </p>
<p>Instead of a kaleidoscope of vibrant colors, this event featured crying kids, confused parents, and a nonprofit operating in the dark, literally and figuratively.</p>
<p><br>👀 New LaDonna episodes are in the works — featuring new fake accounts, missing persons cases, and a sheriff caught in the crossfire. Stay tuned.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1280</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2102: Faking Insanity</title>
      <description>Can you really fake being insane—and get away with it? In this episode of PRETEND, host Javier Leiva sits down with forensic psychologist Dr. Tristin Engels to pull back the curtain on the high-stakes world of mental health evaluations in the criminal justice system.

We explore how some criminals try to game the system, what psychologists look for when evaluating claims of mental illness, and why even experts can be fooled. Plus, we revisit infamous cases like Richard Speck, George Metesky (aka The Mad Bomber), Ted Bundy, and Ed Kemper to examine how psychology—and its blind spots—played a role in their investigations.

Guest:
Dr. Tristin Engels is a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist, published author, and co-host of the podcast Killer Minds.

👉 If you want more criminal psychology deep-dives, check out Dr. Engels’ podcast Killer Minds, where she breaks down infamous cases through the lens of a forensic expert.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2025 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Faking Insanity</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Can you really fake being insane—and get away with it? In this episode of PRETEND, host Javier Leiva sits down with forensic psychologist Dr. Tristin Engels to pull back the curtain on the high-stakes world of mental health evaluations in the criminal justice system.

We explore how some criminals try to game the system, what psychologists look for when evaluating claims of mental illness, and why even experts can be fooled. Plus, we revisit infamous cases like Richard Speck, George Metesky (aka The Mad Bomber), Ted Bundy, and Ed Kemper to examine how psychology—and its blind spots—played a role in their investigations.

Guest:
Dr. Tristin Engels is a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist, published author, and co-host of the podcast Killer Minds.

👉 If you want more criminal psychology deep-dives, check out Dr. Engels’ podcast Killer Minds, where she breaks down infamous cases through the lens of a forensic expert.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Can you really fake being insane—and get away with it? In this episode of <em>PRETEND</em>, host Javier Leiva sits down with forensic psychologist Dr. Tristin Engels to pull back the curtain on the high-stakes world of mental health evaluations in the criminal justice system.</p><p><br></p><p>We explore how some criminals try to game the system, what psychologists look for when evaluating claims of mental illness, and why even experts can be fooled. Plus, we revisit infamous cases like Richard Speck, George Metesky (aka The Mad Bomber), Ted Bundy, and Ed Kemper to examine how psychology—and its blind spots—played a role in their investigations.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Guest:</strong></p><p>Dr. Tristin Engels is a licensed clinical and forensic psychologist, published author, and co-host of the podcast <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2gknS4WovSnrJupP8BVKNe">Killer Minds</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>👉 <strong>If you want more criminal psychology deep-dives, check out Dr. Engels’ podcast </strong><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2gknS4WovSnrJupP8BVKNe">Killer Minds</a><strong>, where she breaks down infamous cases through the lens of a forensic expert.</strong></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2416</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>2101: My Wife, the Ponzi Schemer</title>
      <description>Interview with a man convicted of a Ponzi scheme. Bill Livolsi says he was just trying to help his wife, Linda—the ringleader of a multi-million dollar investment scam.

In this episode of PRETEND, Bill opens up about how he got roped into the scheme, ignored every red flag, and ultimately landed in prison. He describes fake hedge funds, imaginary employees, and a key investor who also happened to be a self-proclaimed witch and lottery winner.

But here’s the twist: Linda isn’t just any con artist. She’s the sister of the woman who tried to steal Elvis Presley’s Graceland—something we covered in a previous episode of PRETEND. Yeah, this story just got a whole lot weirder.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2025 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>My Wife, the Ponzi Schemer</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>21</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Interview with a man convicted of a Ponzi scheme. Bill Livolsi says he was just trying to help his wife, Linda—the ringleader of a multi-million dollar investment scam.

In this episode of PRETEND, Bill opens up about how he got roped into the scheme, ignored every red flag, and ultimately landed in prison. He describes fake hedge funds, imaginary employees, and a key investor who also happened to be a self-proclaimed witch and lottery winner.

But here’s the twist: Linda isn’t just any con artist. She’s the sister of the woman who tried to steal Elvis Presley’s Graceland—something we covered in a previous episode of PRETEND. Yeah, this story just got a whole lot weirder.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Interview with a man convicted of a Ponzi scheme. Bill Livolsi says he was just trying to help his wife, Linda—the ringleader of a multi-million dollar investment scam.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of <em>PRETEND</em>, Bill opens up about how he got roped into the scheme, ignored every red flag, and ultimately landed in prison. He describes fake hedge funds, imaginary employees, and a key investor who also happened to be a self-proclaimed witch and lottery winner.</p><p><br></p><p>But here’s the twist: Linda isn’t just any con artist. She’s the <em>sister</em> of the woman who tried to steal Elvis Presley’s Graceland—something we covered in a previous episode of <em>PRETEND</em>. Yeah, this story just got a whole lot weirder.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2119</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2013: I Married a Narcissist part 3 </title>
      <description>Trigger warning: This episode contains graphic discussions of emotional, financial, sexual, and physical abuse. Listener discretion is strongly advised. 

When Lindsay first met him, he was charming, successful, and convincing—a financial advisor with all the right answers. What started as a storybook marriage quickly spiraled into a nightmare of manipulation, gaslighting, and escalating violence. 

In this episode of PRETEND, Lindsay opens up for the first time in a raw, unfiltered conversation. She walks us through the early warning signs she missed, the love bombing tactics used to win her over, and the slow, calculated process of control that followed.

💬 If you or someone you know is experiencing abuse, help is available. Call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 800-799-7233 or visit thehotline.org.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2025 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>I Married a Narcissist part 3 </itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Trigger warning: This episode contains graphic discussions of emotional, financial, sexual, and physical abuse. Listener discretion is strongly advised. 

When Lindsay first met him, he was charming, successful, and convincing—a financial advisor with all the right answers. What started as a storybook marriage quickly spiraled into a nightmare of manipulation, gaslighting, and escalating violence. 

In this episode of PRETEND, Lindsay opens up for the first time in a raw, unfiltered conversation. She walks us through the early warning signs she missed, the love bombing tactics used to win her over, and the slow, calculated process of control that followed.

💬 If you or someone you know is experiencing abuse, help is available. Call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 800-799-7233 or visit thehotline.org.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>Trigger warning</strong>: This episode contains graphic discussions of emotional, financial, sexual, and physical abuse. Listener discretion is strongly advised. </p><p><br></p><p>When Lindsay first met him, he was charming, successful, and convincing—a financial advisor with all the right answers. What started as a storybook marriage quickly spiraled into a nightmare of manipulation, gaslighting, and escalating violence. </p><p><br></p><p>In this episode of PRETEND, Lindsay opens up for the first time in a raw, unfiltered conversation. She walks us through the early warning signs she missed, the love bombing tactics used to win her over, and the slow, calculated process of control that followed.</p><p><br></p><p>💬 <strong>If you or someone you know is experiencing abuse, help is available. Call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 800-799-7233 or visit </strong><a href="https://thehotline.org">thehotline.org</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3077</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>2012: I Married a Narcissist part 2 Listener Reactions</title>
      <description>After publishing the story of a woman trapped in a marriage with a narcissist, I wasn't sure how it would land. It wasn’t flashy. It didn’t end in violence or arrest. But the response was overwhelming. Listeners wrote in to say, “That was me.” Some still carry the trauma years later. Others are just now realizing what they went through was abuse. 

In this episode, we hear from listeners who saw their own relationships reflected in Ashley’s story. We also speak with criminal behavior analyst Laura Richards to understand how abuse often hides in plain sight—through gaslighting, coercive control, and emotional manipulation. And we ask: what happens when the narcissist isn’t a partner—but a parent? Or when the survivor is a man? 

This bonus episode is about the quiet kind of abuse—the kind people are afraid to talk about but desperately need to hear.
🔊 Featuring: Laura Richards and listeners who bravely shared their experiences

⚠️ Trigger warning: discussions of abuse, addiction, and coercive control

🛑 Warning Signs of Narcissistic Abuse:

Love-bombing followed by emotional withdrawal or cruelty

Gaslighting: making you doubt your memory, emotions, or reality

Blaming you for their self-harm threats or emotional instability

Constant criticism or belittling over mundane issues

Financial control or sabotage

Isolating you from family or friends

Guilt-tripping, triangulation, or passive-aggressive threats

Refusing accountability or twisting facts during arguments

📌 If you’re in a similar situation, here are resources that can help:


National Domestic Violence Hotline (U.S.): 800-799-7233 or thehotline.org — 24/7, free, confidential


Psychology Today Therapist Finder: psychologytoday.com



SAMHSA National Helpline: 1-800-662-HELP (4357) – for substance abuse and mental health support


Domestic Shelters: domesticshelters.org – helps identify resources near you


One Mom’s Battle: onemomsbattle.com – for navigating high-conflict custody and divorce


Love is Respect: loveisrespect.org – support for young people in abusive relationships


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2025 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>I Married a Narcissist part 2 Listener Reactions</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>After publishing the story of a woman trapped in a marriage with a narcissist, I wasn't sure how it would land. It wasn’t flashy. It didn’t end in violence or arrest. But the response was overwhelming. Listeners wrote in to say, “That was me.” Some still carry the trauma years later. Others are just now realizing what they went through was abuse. 

In this episode, we hear from listeners who saw their own relationships reflected in Ashley’s story. We also speak with criminal behavior analyst Laura Richards to understand how abuse often hides in plain sight—through gaslighting, coercive control, and emotional manipulation. And we ask: what happens when the narcissist isn’t a partner—but a parent? Or when the survivor is a man? 

This bonus episode is about the quiet kind of abuse—the kind people are afraid to talk about but desperately need to hear.
🔊 Featuring: Laura Richards and listeners who bravely shared their experiences

⚠️ Trigger warning: discussions of abuse, addiction, and coercive control

🛑 Warning Signs of Narcissistic Abuse:

Love-bombing followed by emotional withdrawal or cruelty

Gaslighting: making you doubt your memory, emotions, or reality

Blaming you for their self-harm threats or emotional instability

Constant criticism or belittling over mundane issues

Financial control or sabotage

Isolating you from family or friends

Guilt-tripping, triangulation, or passive-aggressive threats

Refusing accountability or twisting facts during arguments

📌 If you’re in a similar situation, here are resources that can help:


National Domestic Violence Hotline (U.S.): 800-799-7233 or thehotline.org — 24/7, free, confidential


Psychology Today Therapist Finder: psychologytoday.com



SAMHSA National Helpline: 1-800-662-HELP (4357) – for substance abuse and mental health support


Domestic Shelters: domesticshelters.org – helps identify resources near you


One Mom’s Battle: onemomsbattle.com – for navigating high-conflict custody and divorce


Love is Respect: loveisrespect.org – support for young people in abusive relationships


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>After publishing the story of a woman trapped in a marriage with a narcissist, I wasn't sure how it would land. It wasn’t flashy. It didn’t end in violence or arrest. But the response was overwhelming. Listeners wrote in to say, <em>“That was me.”</em> Some still carry the trauma years later. Others are just now realizing what they went through was abuse. </p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, we hear from listeners who saw their own relationships reflected in Ashley’s story. We also speak with criminal behavior analyst Laura Richards to understand how abuse often hides in plain sight—through gaslighting, coercive control, and emotional manipulation. And we ask: what happens when the narcissist isn’t a partner—but a parent? Or when the survivor is a man? </p><p><br></p><p>This bonus episode is about the quiet kind of abuse—the kind people are afraid to talk about but desperately need to hear.</p><p>🔊 Featuring: Laura Richards and listeners who bravely shared their experiences</p><p><br></p><p>⚠️ Trigger warning: discussions of abuse, addiction, and coercive control</p><p><br></p><h3>🛑 Warning Signs of Narcissistic Abuse:</h3><ul>
<li>Love-bombing followed by emotional withdrawal or cruelty</li>
<li>Gaslighting: making you doubt your memory, emotions, or reality</li>
<li>Blaming you for their self-harm threats or emotional instability</li>
<li>Constant criticism or belittling over mundane issues</li>
<li>Financial control or sabotage</li>
<li>Isolating you from family or friends</li>
<li>Guilt-tripping, triangulation, or passive-aggressive threats</li>
<li>Refusing accountability or twisting facts during arguments</li>
</ul><h3>📌 If you’re in a similar situation, here are resources that can help:</h3><ul>
<li>
<strong>National Domestic Violence Hotline (U.S.)</strong>: 800-799-7233 or <a href="https://thehotline.org">thehotline.org</a> — 24/7, free, confidential</li>
<li>
<strong>Psychology Today Therapist Finder</strong>: <a href="https://psychologytoday.com">psychologytoday.com</a>
</li>
<li>
<strong>SAMHSA National Helpline</strong>: 1-800-662-HELP (4357) – for substance abuse and mental health support</li>
<li>
<strong>Domestic Shelters</strong>: <a href="https://domesticshelters.org">domesticshelters.org</a> – helps identify resources near you</li>
<li>
<strong>One Mom’s Battle</strong>: <a href="https://onemomsbattle.com">onemomsbattle.com</a> – for navigating high-conflict custody and divorce</li>
<li>
<strong>Love is Respect</strong>: <a href="https://loveisrespect.org">loveisrespect.org</a> – support for young people in abusive relationships</li>
</ul><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>911</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2011:  I Married a Narcissist part 1</title>
      <description>In this episode of PRETEND, we meet “Ashley”—not her real name—who recorded hours of arguments with her husband in an effort to understand what was happening inside her marriage. From the outside, it looked like petty spats over groceries or laundry. But when you hear the audio, you realize this was something darker.
Ashley’s husband was emotionally abusive, manipulative, and battling addiction. It wasn’t until COVID lockdowns that his mask slipped and she could see who he really was. He used suicide threats to control her, drained her financially, and isolated her from support. And yet, as is often the case with narcissists, everyone else thought he was the victim.
This is not one of the most outrageous stories we’ve told on PRETEND—but it’s one of the most common. It’s a story many people quietly live through and struggle to name. This is what emotional abuse sounds like.
🛑 Warning Signs of Narcissistic Abuse:

Constant criticism or belittling (often about “small” things like chores or tone of voice)

Love-bombing followed by extreme withdrawal or cruelty

Gaslighting: making you question your memory, reality, or emotions

Isolation from friends, family, or support systems

Walking on eggshells to avoid setting them off

Financial control or sabotage

Using guilt, blame, or self-harm threats to manipulate behavior

Alternating between praise and punishment

Jealousy of your attention—especially toward children

📌 If you’re in a similar situation, here are resources that can help:


National Domestic Violence Hotline (U.S.): 800-799-7233 or thehotline.org — Free, confidential, 24/7


Psychology Today Therapist Finder: psychologytoday.com



Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services (SAMHSA) Helpline: 1-800-662-HELP (4357)


Narcissist Abuse Recovery Support: DomesticShelters.org – Includes emotional abuse filters


One Mom’s Battle: onemomsbattle.com – Focused on divorcing narcissists and protecting children


Love is Respect (for younger listeners): loveisrespect.org



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      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2025 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Sham: I Married a Narcissist</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode of PRETEND, we meet “Ashley”—not her real name—who recorded hours of arguments with her husband in an effort to understand what was happening inside her marriage. From the outside, it looked like petty spats over groceries or laundry. But when you hear the audio, you realize this was something darker.
Ashley’s husband was emotionally abusive, manipulative, and battling addiction. It wasn’t until COVID lockdowns that his mask slipped and she could see who he really was. He used suicide threats to control her, drained her financially, and isolated her from support. And yet, as is often the case with narcissists, everyone else thought he was the victim.
This is not one of the most outrageous stories we’ve told on PRETEND—but it’s one of the most common. It’s a story many people quietly live through and struggle to name. This is what emotional abuse sounds like.
🛑 Warning Signs of Narcissistic Abuse:

Constant criticism or belittling (often about “small” things like chores or tone of voice)

Love-bombing followed by extreme withdrawal or cruelty

Gaslighting: making you question your memory, reality, or emotions

Isolation from friends, family, or support systems

Walking on eggshells to avoid setting them off

Financial control or sabotage

Using guilt, blame, or self-harm threats to manipulate behavior

Alternating between praise and punishment

Jealousy of your attention—especially toward children

📌 If you’re in a similar situation, here are resources that can help:


National Domestic Violence Hotline (U.S.): 800-799-7233 or thehotline.org — Free, confidential, 24/7


Psychology Today Therapist Finder: psychologytoday.com



Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services (SAMHSA) Helpline: 1-800-662-HELP (4357)


Narcissist Abuse Recovery Support: DomesticShelters.org – Includes emotional abuse filters


One Mom’s Battle: onemomsbattle.com – Focused on divorcing narcissists and protecting children


Love is Respect (for younger listeners): loveisrespect.org



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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of <em>PRETEND</em>, we meet “Ashley”—not her real name—who recorded hours of arguments with her husband in an effort to understand what was happening inside her marriage. From the outside, it looked like petty spats over groceries or laundry. But when you hear the audio, you realize this was something darker.</p><p>Ashley’s husband was emotionally abusive, manipulative, and battling addiction. It wasn’t until COVID lockdowns that his mask slipped and she could see who he really was. He used suicide threats to control her, drained her financially, and isolated her from support. And yet, as is often the case with narcissists, everyone else thought he was the victim.</p><p>This is not one of the most outrageous stories we’ve told on <em>PRETEND</em>—but it’s one of the most common. It’s a story many people quietly live through and struggle to name. This is what emotional abuse sounds like.</p><h3>🛑 Warning Signs of Narcissistic Abuse:</h3><ul>
<li>Constant criticism or belittling (often about “small” things like chores or tone of voice)</li>
<li>Love-bombing followed by extreme withdrawal or cruelty</li>
<li>Gaslighting: making you question your memory, reality, or emotions</li>
<li>Isolation from friends, family, or support systems</li>
<li>Walking on eggshells to avoid setting them off</li>
<li>Financial control or sabotage</li>
<li>Using guilt, blame, or self-harm threats to manipulate behavior</li>
<li>Alternating between praise and punishment</li>
<li>Jealousy of your attention—especially toward children</li>
</ul><h3>📌 If you’re in a similar situation, here are resources that can help:</h3><ul>
<li>
<strong>National Domestic Violence Hotline</strong> (U.S.): 800-799-7233 or <a href="https://thehotline.org">thehotline.org</a> — Free, confidential, 24/7</li>
<li>
<strong>Psychology Today Therapist Finder</strong>: <a href="https://psychologytoday.com">psychologytoday.com</a>
</li>
<li>
<strong>Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services (SAMHSA)</strong> Helpline: 1-800-662-HELP (4357)</li>
<li>
<strong>Narcissist Abuse Recovery Support</strong>: <a href="https://DomesticShelters.org">DomesticShelters.org</a> – Includes emotional abuse filters</li>
<li>
<strong>One Mom’s Battle</strong>: <a href="https://onemomsbattle.com">onemomsbattle.com</a> – Focused on divorcing narcissists and protecting children</li>
<li>
<strong>Love is Respect</strong> (for younger listeners): <a href="https://loveisrespect.org">loveisrespect.org</a>
</li>
</ul><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3303</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2010: The Keepsake Scandal</title>
      <description>It started with a missing breast milk keepsake. But when Cheyna Lee joined an online group of frustrated customers, she uncovered something much bigger—hundreds of victims, stolen mementos, and a scam artist hiding in plain sight. This is the story of Destiny Magoon, a small business owner who promised sentimental jewelry made from ashes, hair, and even breast milk—but left heartbreak in her wake. What followed was an online investigation that played out like a true crime documentary, exposing fraud, deception, and a woman willing to do anything to cover her tracks.
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      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2025 14:02:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Keepsake Scandal</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>It started with a missing breast milk keepsake. But when Cheyna Lee joined an online group of frustrated customers, she uncovered something much bigger—hundreds of victims, stolen mementos, and a scam artist hiding in plain sight. This is the story of Destiny Magoon, a small business owner who promised sentimental jewelry made from ashes, hair, and even breast milk—but left heartbreak in her wake. What followed was an online investigation that played out like a true crime documentary, exposing fraud, deception, and a woman willing to do anything to cover her tracks.
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        <![CDATA[<p>It started with a missing breast milk keepsake. But when Cheyna Lee joined an online group of frustrated customers, she uncovered something much bigger—hundreds of victims, stolen mementos, and a scam artist hiding in plain sight. This is the story of Destiny Magoon, a small business owner who promised sentimental jewelry made from ashes, hair, and even breast milk—but left heartbreak in her wake. What followed was an online investigation that played out like a true crime documentary, exposing fraud, deception, and a woman willing to do anything to cover her tracks.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2045</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2009: The Gambler Revisited</title>
      <description>Episode Summary:
While working on the new season of Pretend, I wanted to bring back an episode from 2018 that’s worth another listen. It’s the story of Art Schlichter, a former Ohio State football star whose gambling addiction wrecked his life—and the lives of others. One of those people was Anita Barney, the widow of a Wendy’s CEO, who lost everything after trusting the wrong person.
This isn’t just a story about gambling. It’s about how someone can slowly gain control over another person’s life and bank account, one small ask at a time.

Topics Covered:
✔ How Art Schlichter went from an NFL draft pick to a convicted con artist
✔ The way he pulled Anita Barney into his schemes
✔ How quickly financial fraud can spiral out of control

Resources &amp; Links:
📖 Quarterback Sneak – Anita Barney’s book about what happened
📌 Follow Pretend on Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/
📌 Join our Facebook group

Have a Story to Share?
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🎧 Subscribe &amp; Stay Tuned – More episodes coming soon.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2025 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Gambler Revisited</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Episode Summary:
While working on the new season of Pretend, I wanted to bring back an episode from 2018 that’s worth another listen. It’s the story of Art Schlichter, a former Ohio State football star whose gambling addiction wrecked his life—and the lives of others. One of those people was Anita Barney, the widow of a Wendy’s CEO, who lost everything after trusting the wrong person.
This isn’t just a story about gambling. It’s about how someone can slowly gain control over another person’s life and bank account, one small ask at a time.

Topics Covered:
✔ How Art Schlichter went from an NFL draft pick to a convicted con artist
✔ The way he pulled Anita Barney into his schemes
✔ How quickly financial fraud can spiral out of control

Resources &amp; Links:
📖 Quarterback Sneak – Anita Barney’s book about what happened
📌 Follow Pretend on Instagram:  https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/
📌 Join our Facebook group

Have a Story to Share?
If someone you trusted took advantage of you, I’d like to hear your story. Send a voice memo to Javier@pretendradio.org.
💡 Rate &amp; Review! If you liked this episode, leave a review and share Pretend with a friend.
🎧 Subscribe &amp; Stay Tuned – More episodes coming soon.
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        <![CDATA[<h2><strong>Episode Summary:</strong></h2><p>While working on the new season of <em>Pretend</em>, I wanted to bring back an episode from 2018 that’s worth another listen. It’s the story of <strong>Art Schlichter</strong>, a former Ohio State football star whose gambling addiction wrecked his life—and the lives of others. One of those people was <strong>Anita Barney</strong>, the widow of a Wendy’s CEO, who lost everything after trusting the wrong person.</p><p>This isn’t just a story about gambling. It’s about how someone can slowly gain control over another person’s life and bank account, one small ask at a time.</p><p><br></p><h2><strong>Topics Covered:</strong></h2><p>✔ How Art Schlichter went from an NFL draft pick to a convicted con artist</p><p>✔ The way he pulled Anita Barney into his schemes</p><p>✔ How quickly financial fraud can spiral out of control</p><p><br></p><h2><strong>Resources &amp; Links:</strong></h2><p>📖 <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Quarterback-Sneak-Exposing-Criminal-Schlichter/dp/0692582398"><em>Quarterback Sneak</em></a> – Anita Barney’s book about what happened</p><p>📌 <a href="https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/">Follow <em>Pretend</em> on Instagram: </a> https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/</p><p>📌 <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/pretendradio">Join our Facebook group</a></p><p><br></p><h2><strong>Have a Story to Share?</strong></h2><p>If someone you trusted took advantage of you, I’d like to hear your story. Send a voice memo to <strong>Javier@pretendradio.org</strong>.</p><p>💡 <strong>Rate &amp; Review!</strong> If you liked this episode, leave a review and share <em>Pretend</em> with a friend.</p><p>🎧 <strong>Subscribe &amp; Stay Tuned</strong> – More episodes coming soon.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2488</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2008: Licensed to Kill part 2</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org</link>
      <description>n part two of Licensed to Kill, we continue the shocking investigation into doctors who exploit their patients for profit. This episode follows Patty Hester, a fitness instructor who was misdiagnosed with a rare blood cancer and nearly subjected to years of unnecessary chemotherapy—all at the hands of Dr. Farid Fata, a Michigan oncologist who built his fortune by treating healthy patients for diseases they never had.
But Fata isn’t alone. Across the country, doctors like Thomas Weiner, Ian Paterson, and Javaid Perwaiz have betrayed their patients, mutilated bodies, and destroyed lives—all under the guise of medical care.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2025 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Licensed to Kill part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>n part two of Licensed to Kill, we continue the shocking investigation into doctors who exploit their patients for profit. This episode follows Patty Hester, a fitness instructor who was misdiagnosed with a rare blood cancer and nearly subjected to years of unnecessary chemotherapy—all at the hands of Dr. Farid Fata, a Michigan oncologist who built his fortune by treating healthy patients for diseases they never had.
But Fata isn’t alone. Across the country, doctors like Thomas Weiner, Ian Paterson, and Javaid Perwaiz have betrayed their patients, mutilated bodies, and destroyed lives—all under the guise of medical care.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>n part two of <em>Licensed to Kill</em>, we continue the shocking investigation into doctors who exploit their patients for profit. This episode follows <strong>Patty Hester</strong>, a fitness instructor who was misdiagnosed with a <strong>rare blood cancer</strong> and nearly subjected to years of unnecessary chemotherapy—all at the hands of <strong>Dr. Farid Fata</strong>, a Michigan oncologist who built his fortune by <strong>treating healthy patients for diseases they never had.</strong></p><p>But Fata isn’t alone. Across the country, doctors like <strong>Thomas Weiner, Ian Paterson, and Javaid Perwaiz</strong> have <strong>betrayed their patients, mutilated bodies, and destroyed lives</strong>—all under the guise of medical care.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1933</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2007: Licensed to Kill part 1</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org</link>
      <description>What if your doctor wasn’t trying to save you, but trying to cash in on you?
In this episode of Pretend, we uncover the shocking case of Dr. Thomas Weiner, an oncologist accused of prescribing years of brutal chemotherapy treatments to patients who may not have even had cancer.
We follow the story of Scott Warwick, a man who was told he had stage 4 lung cancer and endured 11 years of toxic treatments—only to later learn there was no biopsy confirming his diagnosis. When Dr. Randy Sasich, a pulmonary critical care specialist, began questioning Weiner’s practices, he faced pushback, intimidation, and threats.
But Weiner’s case isn’t unique. Across the country, doctors like Farid Fata, Jorge Zamora-Quezada, and Michael Swango have been caught exploiting patients for profit, exposing just how broken the U.S. healthcare system truly is.
In this episode, we dive into:
✔️ How financial incentives reward doctors for prescribing unnecessary treatments
✔️ The loopholes in insurance billing that allow fraud to go undetected for years
✔️ The whistleblower who risked everything to expose the truth
✔️ The cult-like following that still defends Dr. Weiner
🔍 Sources &amp; Additional Reading:

ProPublica’s Investigative Report: "Eat What You Kill" :
https://www.propublica.org/article/thomas-weiner-montana-st-peters-hospital-oncology
🎧 Next Time on Pretend:
Meet a patient who underwent three years of cancer treatments—for cancer she never had.
🔔 Subscribe on Patreon or Pretend Plus for early access to Part 2:
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio
PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast:
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💬 Have thoughts on this episode? Leave a review or send us a message—we’d love to hear from you!
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      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Feb 2025 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Licensed to Kill part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>What if your doctor wasn’t trying to save you, but trying to cash in on you?
In this episode of Pretend, we uncover the shocking case of Dr. Thomas Weiner, an oncologist accused of prescribing years of brutal chemotherapy treatments to patients who may not have even had cancer.
We follow the story of Scott Warwick, a man who was told he had stage 4 lung cancer and endured 11 years of toxic treatments—only to later learn there was no biopsy confirming his diagnosis. When Dr. Randy Sasich, a pulmonary critical care specialist, began questioning Weiner’s practices, he faced pushback, intimidation, and threats.
But Weiner’s case isn’t unique. Across the country, doctors like Farid Fata, Jorge Zamora-Quezada, and Michael Swango have been caught exploiting patients for profit, exposing just how broken the U.S. healthcare system truly is.
In this episode, we dive into:
✔️ How financial incentives reward doctors for prescribing unnecessary treatments
✔️ The loopholes in insurance billing that allow fraud to go undetected for years
✔️ The whistleblower who risked everything to expose the truth
✔️ The cult-like following that still defends Dr. Weiner
🔍 Sources &amp; Additional Reading:

ProPublica’s Investigative Report: "Eat What You Kill" :
https://www.propublica.org/article/thomas-weiner-montana-st-peters-hospital-oncology
🎧 Next Time on Pretend:
Meet a patient who underwent three years of cancer treatments—for cancer she never had.
🔔 Subscribe on Patreon or Pretend Plus for early access to Part 2:
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio
PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985
📢 Follow us: @PretendPod on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook
💬 Have thoughts on this episode? Leave a review or send us a message—we’d love to hear from you!
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if your doctor wasn’t trying to save you, but trying to cash in on you?</p><p>In this episode of <em>Pretend</em>, we uncover the shocking case of <strong>Dr. Thomas Weiner</strong>, an oncologist accused of prescribing <strong>years of brutal chemotherapy treatments</strong> to patients who <strong>may not have even had cancer.</strong></p><p>We follow the story of <strong>Scott Warwick</strong>, a man who was told he had <strong>stage 4 lung cancer</strong> and endured <strong>11 years of toxic treatments</strong>—only to later learn <strong>there was no biopsy confirming his diagnosis</strong>. When Dr. Randy Sasich, a <strong>pulmonary critical care specialist</strong>, began questioning Weiner’s practices, he faced <strong>pushback, intimidation, and threats.</strong></p><p>But Weiner’s case isn’t unique. Across the country, doctors like <strong>Farid Fata, Jorge Zamora-Quezada, and Michael Swango</strong> have been caught <strong>exploiting patients for profit</strong>, exposing just how broken the U.S. healthcare system truly is.</p><p>In this episode, we dive into:</p><p>✔️ How financial incentives <strong>reward</strong> doctors for prescribing unnecessary treatments</p><p>✔️ The <strong>loopholes</strong> in insurance billing that allow fraud to go undetected for years</p><p>✔️ The <strong>whistleblower</strong> who risked everything to expose the truth</p><p>✔️ The <strong>cult-like following</strong> that still defends Dr. Weiner</p><p>🔍 <strong>Sources &amp; Additional Reading:</strong></p><ul><li>
<em>ProPublica’s Investigative Report: "Eat What You Kill"</em> :</li></ul><p><a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/thomas-weiner-montana-st-peters-hospital-oncology">https://www.propublica.org/article/thomas-weiner-montana-st-peters-hospital-oncology</a></p><p>🎧 <strong>Next Time on Pretend:</strong></p><p>Meet a patient who <strong>underwent three years of cancer treatments—for cancer she never had.</strong></p><p>🔔 <em>Subscribe on Patreon or Pretend Plus for early access to Part 2:</em></p><p>Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio">https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio</a></p><p>PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast:</p><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985</a></p><p>📢 <strong>Follow us:</strong> @PretendPod on <strong>Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook</strong></p><p>💬 <strong>Have thoughts on this episode?</strong> Leave a review or send us a message—we’d love to hear from you!</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2491</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2006: Operation Cock Block</title>
      <description>A group of women, all with eerily similar stories, say they were deceived—emotionally and financially—by the same man: William Sullivan. But instead of staying silent, they took matters into their own hands. They formed Operation Cock Block, a coordinated effort to expose what they claim were Sullivan’s deceptive tactics and warn others before they fell victim.
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      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2025 03:12:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Operation Cock Block</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>A group of women, all with eerily similar stories, say they were deceived—emotionally and financially—by the same man: William Sullivan. But instead of staying silent, they took matters into their own hands. They formed Operation Cock Block, a coordinated effort to expose what they claim were Sullivan’s deceptive tactics and warn others before they fell victim.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>A group of women, all with eerily similar stories, say they were deceived—emotionally and financially—by the same man: William Sullivan. But instead of staying silent, they took matters into their own hands. They formed <em>Operation Cock Block</em>, a coordinated effort to expose what they claim were Sullivan’s deceptive tactics and warn others before they fell victim.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>2005: The Telepathy Tapes B-side part 3</title>
      <description>Facilitated Communication is marketed as a miraculous tool for non-speaking autistic children. But what happens when this controversial method leads to devastating consequences? In this episode, we hear from Kevin Plantin, a father who was falsely accused of assault based solely on messages typed with the help of a facilitator.
Despite the evidence, some courts and institutions still give FC credibility—with tragic consequences.
In this episode, Kevin Plantan recounts how a letter typed via FC led to his wrongful imprisonment for 10 months on charges of sexual assault. We also revisit the story of Janyce Boynton, a former FC facilitator who now warns against the practice after witnessing its harmful effects firsthand.
Featured guests in this episode:
Kevin Plantin: Sharing his personal story of wrongful imprisonment.
Janyce Boynton: Former FC facilitator and advocate against the practice.
Additional Resources:

Learn more about Facilitated Communication: https://www.facilitatedcommunication.org/


Read about Syracuse University's involvement with FC: https://dailyorange.com/2024/02/mixed-messages-how-facilitated-communication-persists-at-su/


Prisoners of Silence documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMn_sDCFAuI



Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2025 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Telepathy Tapes B-side part 3</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Facilitated Communication is marketed as a miraculous tool for non-speaking autistic children. But what happens when this controversial method leads to devastating consequences? In this episode, we hear from Kevin Plantin, a father who was falsely accused of assault based solely on messages typed with the help of a facilitator.
Despite the evidence, some courts and institutions still give FC credibility—with tragic consequences.
In this episode, Kevin Plantan recounts how a letter typed via FC led to his wrongful imprisonment for 10 months on charges of sexual assault. We also revisit the story of Janyce Boynton, a former FC facilitator who now warns against the practice after witnessing its harmful effects firsthand.
Featured guests in this episode:
Kevin Plantin: Sharing his personal story of wrongful imprisonment.
Janyce Boynton: Former FC facilitator and advocate against the practice.
Additional Resources:

Learn more about Facilitated Communication: https://www.facilitatedcommunication.org/


Read about Syracuse University's involvement with FC: https://dailyorange.com/2024/02/mixed-messages-how-facilitated-communication-persists-at-su/


Prisoners of Silence documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMn_sDCFAuI



Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Facilitated Communication is marketed as a miraculous tool for non-speaking autistic children. But what happens when this controversial method leads to devastating consequences? In this episode, we hear from Kevin Plantin, a father who was falsely accused of assault based solely on messages typed with the help of a facilitator.</p><p>Despite the evidence, some courts and institutions still give FC credibility—with tragic consequences.</p><p>In this episode, Kevin Plantan recounts how a letter typed via FC led to his wrongful imprisonment for 10 months on charges of sexual assault. We also revisit the story of Janyce Boynton, a former FC facilitator who now warns against the practice after witnessing its harmful effects firsthand.</p><p><strong>Featured guests in this episode:</strong></p><p><strong>Kevin Plantin</strong>: Sharing his personal story of wrongful imprisonment.</p><p><strong>Janyce Boynton</strong>: Former FC facilitator and advocate against the practice.</p><p><strong>Additional Resources</strong>:</p><ul>
<li>Learn more about Facilitated Communication: <a href="https://www.facilitatedcommunication.org/">https://www.facilitatedcommunication.org/</a>
</li>
<li>Read about Syracuse University's involvement with FC: <a href="https://dailyorange.com/2024/02/mixed-messages-how-facilitated-communication-persists-at-su/">https://dailyorange.com/2024/02/mixed-messages-how-facilitated-communication-persists-at-su/</a>
</li>
<li>Prisoners of Silence documentary: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMn_sDCFAuI">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMn_sDCFAuI</a>
</li>
</ul><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2228</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2004: The Telepathy Tapes B-Side part 2</title>
      <description>A mother kills her autistic son. Why? Because he asked her to.

The mother claims he used facilitated communication to ask her to help him die. This case is just one of many tied to the controversial method that claims to give a voice to non-speaking autistic individuals. But what if the voice wasn’t theirs at all?

Share Your Thoughts:
Have you listened to The Telepathy Tapes? What do you think about the claims it makes? We want to hear from you! Send a voice memo with your thoughts to javier@pretendradio.org, and your message might be featured in an upcoming episode.


Resources Mentioned:

➜    Learn more about Amy Lutz’s work and her book Chasing the Intact Mind.

https://amzn.to/4gg9Mbe

➜    Read Zaid Jilani’s articles on Facilitated Communication and The Telepathy Tapes on his Substack, The American Saga.

https://www.theamericansaga.com/

 ➜   Explore the history of Facilitated Communication in the documentary Tell Them You Love Me (available on U.S. Netflix).

https://www.netflix.com/title/81783064



Stay Connected:
Follow PRETEND on social media and subscribe to the podcast for more stories exploring deception and the human condition.

➜ BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/pretendpod.bsky.social

➜ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/

➜ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod

➜ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Feb 2025 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Telepathy Tapes B-Side part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>A mother kills her autistic son. Why? Because he asked her to.

The mother claims he used facilitated communication to ask her to help him die. This case is just one of many tied to the controversial method that claims to give a voice to non-speaking autistic individuals. But what if the voice wasn’t theirs at all?

Share Your Thoughts:
Have you listened to The Telepathy Tapes? What do you think about the claims it makes? We want to hear from you! Send a voice memo with your thoughts to javier@pretendradio.org, and your message might be featured in an upcoming episode.


Resources Mentioned:

➜    Learn more about Amy Lutz’s work and her book Chasing the Intact Mind.

https://amzn.to/4gg9Mbe

➜    Read Zaid Jilani’s articles on Facilitated Communication and The Telepathy Tapes on his Substack, The American Saga.

https://www.theamericansaga.com/

 ➜   Explore the history of Facilitated Communication in the documentary Tell Them You Love Me (available on U.S. Netflix).

https://www.netflix.com/title/81783064



Stay Connected:
Follow PRETEND on social media and subscribe to the podcast for more stories exploring deception and the human condition.

➜ BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/pretendpod.bsky.social

➜ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/

➜ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod

➜ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>A mother kills her autistic son. Why? Because he asked her to.</p><p><br></p><p>The mother claims he used facilitated communication to ask her to help him die. This case is just one of many tied to the controversial method that claims to give a voice to non-speaking autistic individuals. But what if the voice wasn’t theirs at all?</p><p><br></p><p>Share Your Thoughts:</p><p>Have you listened to The Telepathy Tapes? What do you think about the claims it makes? We want to hear from you! Send a voice memo with your thoughts to javier@pretendradio.org, and your message might be featured in an upcoming episode.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned:</p><p><br></p><p>➜    Learn more about Amy Lutz’s work and her book Chasing the Intact Mind.</p><p><br></p><p>https://amzn.to/4gg9Mbe</p><p><br></p><p>➜    Read Zaid Jilani’s articles on Facilitated Communication and The Telepathy Tapes on his Substack, The American Saga.</p><p><br></p><p>https://www.theamericansaga.com/</p><p><br></p><p> ➜   Explore the history of Facilitated Communication in the documentary Tell Them You Love Me (available on U.S. Netflix).</p><p><br></p><p>https://www.netflix.com/title/81783064</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Stay Connected:</p><p>Follow PRETEND on social media and subscribe to the podcast for more stories exploring deception and the human condition.</p><p><br></p><p>➜ BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/pretendpod.bsky.social</p><p><br></p><p>➜ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/</p><p><br></p><p>➜ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod</p><p><br></p><p>➜ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2895</itunes:duration>
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      <title>2003: The Telepathy Tapes B-Side part 1</title>
      <description>The Telepathy Tapes podcast shot to the top of the charts, making bold claims about telepathic abilities in non-verbal autistic children. But are the claims rooted in science—or something else entirely? In this episode of PRETEND, we take a closer look at the phenomenon, the controversies, and the skepticism surrounding these extraordinary claims.

We’ll discuss:

➜ The premise of The Telepathy Tapes and the experiments it presents.

➜ Scientific skepticism surrounding telepathy claims.

➜ Ethical concerns, including the history of Facilitated Communication and its controversies.

➜ Voices from parents, experts, and critics, including Zaid Jilani and Amy Lutz.

Resources Mentioned:

   Learn more about Amy Lutz’s work and her book Chasing the Intact Mind.
https://amzn.to/4gg9Mbe

   Read Zaid Jilani’s articles on Facilitated Communication and The Telepathy Tapes on his Substack, The American Saga.
https://www.theamericansaga.com/

   Explore the history of Facilitated Communication in the documentary Tell Them You Love Me (available on U.S. Netflix).
https://www.netflix.com/title/81783064

Share Your Thoughts:
Have you listened to The Telepathy Tapes? What do you think about the claims it makes? We want to hear from you! Send a voice memo with your thoughts to javier@pretendradio.org, and your message might be featured in an upcoming episode.

Stay Connected:
Follow PRETEND on social media and subscribe to the podcast for more stories exploring deception and the human condition.

➜ BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/pretendpod.bsky.social

➜ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/

➜ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod

➜ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jan 2025 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Telepathy Tapes B-Side part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The Telepathy Tapes podcast shot to the top of the charts, making bold claims about telepathic abilities in non-verbal autistic children. But are the claims rooted in science—or something else entirely? In this episode of PRETEND, we take a closer look at the phenomenon, the controversies, and the skepticism surrounding these extraordinary claims.

We’ll discuss:

➜ The premise of The Telepathy Tapes and the experiments it presents.

➜ Scientific skepticism surrounding telepathy claims.

➜ Ethical concerns, including the history of Facilitated Communication and its controversies.

➜ Voices from parents, experts, and critics, including Zaid Jilani and Amy Lutz.

Resources Mentioned:

   Learn more about Amy Lutz’s work and her book Chasing the Intact Mind.
https://amzn.to/4gg9Mbe

   Read Zaid Jilani’s articles on Facilitated Communication and The Telepathy Tapes on his Substack, The American Saga.
https://www.theamericansaga.com/

   Explore the history of Facilitated Communication in the documentary Tell Them You Love Me (available on U.S. Netflix).
https://www.netflix.com/title/81783064

Share Your Thoughts:
Have you listened to The Telepathy Tapes? What do you think about the claims it makes? We want to hear from you! Send a voice memo with your thoughts to javier@pretendradio.org, and your message might be featured in an upcoming episode.

Stay Connected:
Follow PRETEND on social media and subscribe to the podcast for more stories exploring deception and the human condition.

➜ BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/pretendpod.bsky.social

➜ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/

➜ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod

➜ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>The Telepathy Tapes podcast shot to the top of the charts, making bold claims about telepathic abilities in non-verbal autistic children. But are the claims rooted in science—or something else entirely? In this episode of PRETEND, we take a closer look at the phenomenon, the controversies, and the skepticism surrounding these extraordinary claims.</p><p><br></p><p>We’ll discuss:</p><p><br></p><p>➜ The premise of The Telepathy Tapes and the experiments it presents.</p><p><br></p><p>➜ Scientific skepticism surrounding telepathy claims.</p><p><br></p><p>➜ Ethical concerns, including the history of Facilitated Communication and its controversies.</p><p><br></p><p>➜ Voices from parents, experts, and critics, including Zaid Jilani and Amy Lutz.</p><p><br></p><p>Resources Mentioned:</p><p><br></p><p>   Learn more about Amy Lutz’s work and her book Chasing the Intact Mind.</p><p>https://amzn.to/4gg9Mbe</p><p><br></p><p>   Read Zaid Jilani’s articles on Facilitated Communication and The Telepathy Tapes on his Substack, The American Saga.</p><p>https://www.theamericansaga.com/</p><p><br></p><p>   Explore the history of Facilitated Communication in the documentary Tell Them You Love Me (available on U.S. Netflix).</p><p>https://www.netflix.com/title/81783064</p><p><br></p><p>Share Your Thoughts:</p><p>Have you listened to The Telepathy Tapes? What do you think about the claims it makes? We want to hear from you! Send a voice memo with your thoughts to javier@pretendradio.org, and your message might be featured in an upcoming episode.</p><p><br></p><p>Stay Connected:</p><p>Follow PRETEND on social media and subscribe to the podcast for more stories exploring deception and the human condition.</p><p><br></p><p>➜ BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/pretendpod.bsky.social</p><p><br></p><p>➜ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/</p><p><br></p><p>➜ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod</p><p><br></p><p>➜ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2697</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>Criminal Conduct S5: The Life and Death of Buffalo Jim</title>
      <description>Hello PRETENDERS! I'm excited to announce that the new season of my other podcast, Criminal Conduct Season, is here! To listen to the rest of the story, search for Criminal Conduct and subscribe.
____________________
Buffalo Jim Barrier was a wrestling promoter, mechanic, and Las Vegas icon. He faced off against Rick Rizzolo, a powerful strip club owner with alleged mob ties. Their feud lasted decades. Days after Rizzolo’s release from house release, Buffalo Jim was found dead under mysterious circumstances in a motel room. Evidence is missing, and there are anonymous threats. Questions remain unanswered. Criminal Conduct Season 5 unravels a story of corruption, crime, and one man’s fight for justice.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2025 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/8b96d258-eab4-11ee-87df-8b888eb02881/image/c40fdc8454fa22777856cdbc45bd2bd8.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Hello PRETENDERS! I'm excited to announce that the new season of my other podcast, Criminal Conduct Season, is here! To listen to the rest of the story, search for Criminal Conduct and subscribe.
____________________
Buffalo Jim Barrier was a wrestling promoter, mechanic, and Las Vegas icon. He faced off against Rick Rizzolo, a powerful strip club owner with alleged mob ties. Their feud lasted decades. Days after Rizzolo’s release from house release, Buffalo Jim was found dead under mysterious circumstances in a motel room. Evidence is missing, and there are anonymous threats. Questions remain unanswered. Criminal Conduct Season 5 unravels a story of corruption, crime, and one man’s fight for justice.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hello PRETENDERS! I'm excited to announce that the new season of my other podcast, Criminal Conduct Season, is here! To listen to the rest of the story, search for Criminal Conduct and subscribe.</p><p>____________________</p><p>Buffalo Jim Barrier was a wrestling promoter, mechanic, and Las Vegas icon. He faced off against Rick Rizzolo, a powerful strip club owner with alleged mob ties. Their feud lasted decades. Days after Rizzolo’s release from house release, Buffalo Jim was found dead under mysterious circumstances in a motel room. Evidence is missing, and there are anonymous threats. Questions remain unanswered. <em>Criminal Conduct</em> Season 5 unravels a story of corruption, crime, and one man’s fight for justice.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>1905</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>2002: DNA Deception</title>
      <description>DNA evidence is often seen as the gold standard in criminal investigations—a scientific fingerprint that can definitively prove guilt or innocence. But what happens when the science behind it is mishandled or manipulated? In this episode of PRETEND, we explore two shocking cases: the Garrett Coughlin triple homicide and the wrongful conviction of Josiah Sutton. Both cases reveal how sloppy forensic work and unethical practices can set guilty criminals free and, worse, imprison innocent people. Through interviews with victims' families, experts, and journalists, we unravel the myth of DNA as infallible evidence and expose the devastating consequences of a broken system.
Featuring insights from Kathy Eppler and a special contribution from Celisia Stanton of the Truer Crime Podcast, this episode serves as a sobering reminder: DNA is only as reliable as the people interpreting it.
Credits:

Special thanks to Celisia Stanton from Truer Crime Podcast for her contributions to the Josiah Sutton case segment.

Additional reporting and analysis from Hidden Killers Podcast and forensic scientist Dan Krane.

Pitch to Truer Crime Podcast:
If you're intrigued by the case of Josiah Sutton and want to dive deeper, check out Truer Crime Podcast hosted by Celisia Stanton, where she explores the complexities of DNA evidence, justice, and wrongful convictions with a sharp and compassionate lens.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2025 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>DNA Deception</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/8b0f1048-eab4-11ee-87df-3b6351fb7823/image/6accde360ad1e109a8ee5f837005f085.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>DNA evidence is often seen as the gold standard in criminal investigations—a scientific fingerprint that can definitively prove guilt or innocence. But what happens when the science behind it is mishandled or manipulated? In this episode of PRETEND, we explore two shocking cases: the Garrett Coughlin triple homicide and the wrongful conviction of Josiah Sutton. Both cases reveal how sloppy forensic work and unethical practices can set guilty criminals free and, worse, imprison innocent people. Through interviews with victims' families, experts, and journalists, we unravel the myth of DNA as infallible evidence and expose the devastating consequences of a broken system.
Featuring insights from Kathy Eppler and a special contribution from Celisia Stanton of the Truer Crime Podcast, this episode serves as a sobering reminder: DNA is only as reliable as the people interpreting it.
Credits:

Special thanks to Celisia Stanton from Truer Crime Podcast for her contributions to the Josiah Sutton case segment.

Additional reporting and analysis from Hidden Killers Podcast and forensic scientist Dan Krane.

Pitch to Truer Crime Podcast:
If you're intrigued by the case of Josiah Sutton and want to dive deeper, check out Truer Crime Podcast hosted by Celisia Stanton, where she explores the complexities of DNA evidence, justice, and wrongful convictions with a sharp and compassionate lens.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>DNA evidence is often seen as the gold standard in criminal investigations—a scientific fingerprint that can definitively prove guilt or innocence. But what happens when the science behind it is mishandled or manipulated? In this episode of <strong>PRETEND</strong>, we explore two shocking cases: the <strong>Garrett Coughlin triple homicide</strong> and the wrongful conviction of <strong>Josiah Sutton</strong>. Both cases reveal how sloppy forensic work and unethical practices can set guilty criminals free and, worse, imprison innocent people. Through interviews with victims' families, experts, and journalists, we unravel the myth of DNA as infallible evidence and expose the devastating consequences of a broken system.</p><p>Featuring insights from <strong>Kathy Eppler</strong> and a special contribution from <strong>Celisia Stanton</strong> of the <strong>Truer Crime Podcast</strong>, this episode serves as a sobering reminder: DNA is only as reliable as the people interpreting it.</p><p><strong>Credits:</strong></p><ul>
<li>Special thanks to <strong>Celisia Stanton</strong> from <strong>Truer Crime Podcast</strong> for her contributions to the <strong>Josiah Sutton case</strong> segment.</li>
<li>Additional reporting and analysis from <strong>Hidden Killers Podcast</strong> and forensic scientist <strong>Dan Krane</strong>.</li>
</ul><p><strong>Pitch to Truer Crime Podcast:</strong></p><p>If you're intrigued by the case of <strong>Josiah Sutton</strong> and want to dive deeper, check out <strong>Truer Crime Podcast</strong> hosted by <strong>Celisia Stanton</strong>, where she explores the complexities of DNA evidence, justice, and wrongful convictions with a sharp and compassionate lens.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2246</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>2001: Drone Hysteria</title>
      <description>People panicked when a swarm of mysterious drones appeared in New Jersey’s night skies. Were they military? Foreign spies? Aliens? But buried under all the hysteria was one theory that refused to die: Birds Aren't Real. Yeah, that old internet conspiracy claiming birds are actually government surveillance drones. But here’s the thing—what if the joke isn’t as silly as it seems?
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Dec 2024 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Drone Hysteria</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>20</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>People panicked when a swarm of mysterious drones appeared in New Jersey’s night skies. Were they military? Foreign spies? Aliens? But buried under all the hysteria was one theory that refused to die: Birds Aren't Real. Yeah, that old internet conspiracy claiming birds are actually government surveillance drones. But here’s the thing—what if the joke isn’t as silly as it seems?
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>People panicked when a swarm of mysterious drones appeared in New Jersey’s night skies. Were they military? Foreign spies? Aliens? But buried under all the hysteria was one theory that refused to die: Birds Aren't Real. Yeah, that old internet conspiracy claiming birds are actually government surveillance drones. But here’s the thing—what if the joke isn’t as silly as it seems?</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>1353</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1914: BONUS: Grapes, Grifts, and Gavel</title>
      <description>As a holiday treat, Amanda of Wine &amp; Crime, Javier of PRETEND, and Whitney of Navigating Advocacy sit down to chat true crime, being in the podcasting industry, cases that haunt us, dream collaborations, and more! Enjoy this bonus conversation and check out all of these amazing shows wherever you get your podcasts! 

Javier Leiva - PRETEND, Criminal Conduct, Ponzi Playbook

Amanda Jacobson - Wine &amp; Crime 
https://open.spotify.com/show/5OeKXVPomhbejM9v7CDqxJ?si=4451247ce3704a0a
Whitney - Navigating Advocacy
https://open.spotify.com/show/6I09OWnoDtibLjE7rfQqrH?si=9265b522586d4727
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2024 16:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>BONUS: Grapes, Grifts, and Gavel</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>As a holiday treat, Amanda of Wine &amp; Crime, Javier of PRETEND, and Whitney of Navigating Advocacy sit down to chat true crime, being in the podcasting industry, cases that haunt us, dream collaborations, and more! Enjoy this bonus conversation and check out all of these amazing shows wherever you get your podcasts! 

Javier Leiva - PRETEND, Criminal Conduct, Ponzi Playbook

Amanda Jacobson - Wine &amp; Crime 
https://open.spotify.com/show/5OeKXVPomhbejM9v7CDqxJ?si=4451247ce3704a0a
Whitney - Navigating Advocacy
https://open.spotify.com/show/6I09OWnoDtibLjE7rfQqrH?si=9265b522586d4727
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>As a holiday treat, Amanda of Wine &amp; Crime, Javier of PRETEND, and Whitney of Navigating Advocacy sit down to chat true crime, being in the podcasting industry, cases that haunt us, dream collaborations, and more! Enjoy this bonus conversation and check out all of these amazing shows wherever you get your podcasts! </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Javier Leiva - PRETEND, Criminal Conduct, Ponzi Playbook</strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Amanda Jacobson - Wine &amp; Crime </strong></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5OeKXVPomhbejM9v7CDqxJ?si=4451247ce3704a0a">https://open.spotify.com/show/5OeKXVPomhbejM9v7CDqxJ?si=4451247ce3704a0a</a></p><p><strong>Whitney - Navigating Advocacy</strong></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/6I09OWnoDtibLjE7rfQqrH?si=9265b522586d4727">https://open.spotify.com/show/6I09OWnoDtibLjE7rfQqrH?si=9265b522586d4727</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3925</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1913: The Christmas Con Revisited </title>
      <description>In today's Christmas episode, we delve into the story of David Ellisor, a man whose grand Christmas scheme left the city of Miami in disbelief. Ellisor, a real-life Grinch, planned to host "Christmas From Around the World," a supposed once-in-a-lifetime event promising the presence of ambassadors, live reindeer, and a spectacle of global traditions. But the event never happened. He collected the cash and made a run for it. This is a Christmas caper for the ages.

Plus, listeners tell their own Christmas con stories.

Merry Christmas! Happy Holidays! And I wish all of you a Happy New Year!
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Dec 2024 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Christmas Con Revisited </itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/8a86f96a-eab4-11ee-87df-4b8297abe7d5/image/6accde360ad1e109a8ee5f837005f085.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
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      <itunes:summary>In today's Christmas episode, we delve into the story of David Ellisor, a man whose grand Christmas scheme left the city of Miami in disbelief. Ellisor, a real-life Grinch, planned to host "Christmas From Around the World," a supposed once-in-a-lifetime event promising the presence of ambassadors, live reindeer, and a spectacle of global traditions. But the event never happened. He collected the cash and made a run for it. This is a Christmas caper for the ages.

Plus, listeners tell their own Christmas con stories.

Merry Christmas! Happy Holidays! And I wish all of you a Happy New Year!
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In today's Christmas episode, we delve into the story of David Ellisor, a man whose grand Christmas scheme left the city of Miami in disbelief. Ellisor, a real-life Grinch, planned to host "Christmas From Around the World," a supposed once-in-a-lifetime event promising the presence of ambassadors, live reindeer, and a spectacle of global traditions. But the event never happened. He collected the cash and made a run for it. This is a Christmas caper for the ages.</p><p><br></p><p>Plus, listeners tell their own Christmas con stories.</p><p><br></p><p>Merry Christmas! Happy Holidays! And I wish all of you a Happy New Year!</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2311</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1912: BONUS: Affirmative Pretend Bullsh**</title>
      <description>The true crime podcasting community has come together for the holiday season to discuss all things true crime podcasting. Over the next two weeks, ten shows will be dropping bonus episodes sharing these conversations. In this episode, I'm joined by Alvin Williams (Affirmative Murder) and Josh Hallmark (True Crime Bullsh**) to discuss how we started our shows, true crime as an industry, how we've grown and lessons we've learned, cases we've covered, monetizing true crime, television, the future of our shows, and more.

Check out Josh's and Alvin's shows:
Affirmative Murder
True Crime Bullsh**
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 23 Dec 2024 17:42:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>BONUS: Affirmative Pretend Bullsh**</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The true crime podcasting community has come together for the holiday season to discuss all things true crime podcasting. Over the next two weeks, ten shows will be dropping bonus episodes sharing these conversations. In this episode, I'm joined by Alvin Williams (Affirmative Murder) and Josh Hallmark (True Crime Bullsh**) to discuss how we started our shows, true crime as an industry, how we've grown and lessons we've learned, cases we've covered, monetizing true crime, television, the future of our shows, and more.

Check out Josh's and Alvin's shows:
Affirmative Murder
True Crime Bullsh**
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>The true crime podcasting community has come together for the holiday season to discuss all things true crime podcasting. Over the next two weeks, ten shows will be dropping bonus episodes sharing these conversations. In this episode, I'm joined by <strong>Alvin Williams (Affirmative Murder) and Josh Hallmark (True Crime Bullsh**) </strong>to discuss how we started our shows, true crime as an industry, how we've grown and lessons we've learned, cases we've covered, monetizing true crime, television, the future of our shows, and more.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Check out Josh's and Alvin's shows:</strong></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2UyslFDuR7Y2qWWNOx6dJw?si=71e00ca53bdc4022">Affirmative Murder</a></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/073muZEPrJTiwYvsDplJRp?si=1e39d2e6aaeb4c97">True Crime Bullsh**</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>4013</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1911: Love and Taxes Revisited</title>
      <description>When the IRS knocked on John Coutu's door, demanding $80,000, his girlfriend, Jennifer Mitchell, offered to help with his taxes. It seemed like a simple gesture of support.
But John would soon find himself caught in a troubling situation. Unbeknownst to him, his taxes were never filed, and a series of lies began to unravel. As John speaks out, his story reveals a strange and complicated web that extends beyond his own experience.
Today, we explore what happens when trust, love, and taxes collide.
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      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2024 19:33:38 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Love and Taxes Revisited</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>When the IRS knocked on John Coutu's door, demanding $80,000, his girlfriend, Jennifer Mitchell, offered to help with his taxes. It seemed like a simple gesture of support.
But John would soon find himself caught in a troubling situation. Unbeknownst to him, his taxes were never filed, and a series of lies began to unravel. As John speaks out, his story reveals a strange and complicated web that extends beyond his own experience.
Today, we explore what happens when trust, love, and taxes collide.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>When the IRS knocked on John Coutu's door, demanding $80,000, his girlfriend, Jennifer Mitchell, offered to help with his taxes. It seemed like a simple gesture of support.</p><p>But John would soon find himself caught in a troubling situation. Unbeknownst to him, his taxes were never filed, and a series of lies began to unravel. As John speaks out, his story reveals a strange and complicated web that extends beyond his own experience.</p><p>Today, we explore what happens when trust, love, and taxes collide.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2298</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1910: The Maury Povich Olive Lady - Revisited</title>
      <description>So, I've got to tell you about this crazy rabbit hole I slipped into. It's about that bizarre olive lady from the Maury show. Remember her? Olives freaked out Sally because they reminded her of, get this, dead people's eyes. Wild, right?

I always wondered... Was Sally for real or just putting on a show for the cameras? This question led me to Anthony Freire, a guy who used to produce for Maury Povich.

Man, the stuff I learned while putting together this episode! It’s like peeling back the curtain on daytime TV and finding a whole other world. Turns out, there are many mind games and behind-the-scenes tricks that go into making these shows. Anthony spilled the beans on how they get people to react a certain way or amp up their emotions for the audience.

It's not just about Sally and her olive phobia. This episode digs into the bigger picture of how these TV shows mess with people's heads, both the guests and us viewers.

If you're into the psychology used in reality TV shows or love a good behind-the-scenes story, you must check this out. It's not your average episode of PRETEND.

I can't wait to hear what you all think. Tune in, and let's get our minds blown together!
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2024 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Maury Povich Olive Lady - Revisited</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/89ff07a8-eab4-11ee-87df-9352dc2d9a9d/image/70a618f5bc128d941d2b6bd7e7b55396.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>So, I've got to tell you about this crazy rabbit hole I slipped into. It's about that bizarre olive lady from the Maury show. Remember her? Olives freaked out Sally because they reminded her of, get this, dead people's eyes. Wild, right?

I always wondered... Was Sally for real or just putting on a show for the cameras? This question led me to Anthony Freire, a guy who used to produce for Maury Povich.

Man, the stuff I learned while putting together this episode! It’s like peeling back the curtain on daytime TV and finding a whole other world. Turns out, there are many mind games and behind-the-scenes tricks that go into making these shows. Anthony spilled the beans on how they get people to react a certain way or amp up their emotions for the audience.

It's not just about Sally and her olive phobia. This episode digs into the bigger picture of how these TV shows mess with people's heads, both the guests and us viewers.

If you're into the psychology used in reality TV shows or love a good behind-the-scenes story, you must check this out. It's not your average episode of PRETEND.

I can't wait to hear what you all think. Tune in, and let's get our minds blown together!
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>So, I've got to tell you about this crazy rabbit hole I slipped into. It's about that bizarre olive lady from the Maury show. Remember her? Olives freaked out Sally because they reminded her of, get this, dead people's eyes. Wild, right?</p><p><br></p><p>I always wondered... Was Sally for real or just putting on a show for the cameras? This question led me to Anthony Freire, a guy who used to produce for Maury Povich.</p><p><br></p><p>Man, the stuff I learned while putting together this episode! It’s like peeling back the curtain on daytime TV and finding a whole other world. Turns out, there are many mind games and behind-the-scenes tricks that go into making these shows. Anthony spilled the beans on how they get people to react a certain way or amp up their emotions for the audience.</p><p><br></p><p>It's not just about Sally and her olive phobia. This episode digs into the bigger picture of how these TV shows mess with people's heads, both the guests and us viewers.</p><p><br></p><p>If you're into the psychology used in reality TV shows or love a good behind-the-scenes story, you must check this out. It's not your average episode of PRETEND.</p><p><br></p><p>I can't wait to hear what you all think. Tune in, and let's get our minds blown together!</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2164</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1909: The Woman Who Almost Stole Graceland</title>
      <description>Lisa Findley tried to steal Elvis Presley’s home. She almost got away with it.
A con artist with a long history of scams almost pulled off her biggest scheme yet—stealing Elvis Presley’s iconic home, Graceland. Using fake documents and fabricated identities, Lisa Findley tried to claim ownership of the historic estate.
In this episode, NBC News reporter Brandy Zadrozny takes us down a rabbit hole and shows us how she unraveled Findley’s web of lies, linking her to years of fraud and harassment.
This is one of the boldest property scams in recent history, and Findley came dangerously close to succeeding/ We'll also talk about the loopholes that make these crimes possible.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Dec 2024 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Woman Who Almost Stole Graceland</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/89b2be0c-eab4-11ee-87df-27715d9aa47f/image/6932f615215cb4382e9e24c3952e8ae4.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
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      <itunes:summary>Lisa Findley tried to steal Elvis Presley’s home. She almost got away with it.
A con artist with a long history of scams almost pulled off her biggest scheme yet—stealing Elvis Presley’s iconic home, Graceland. Using fake documents and fabricated identities, Lisa Findley tried to claim ownership of the historic estate.
In this episode, NBC News reporter Brandy Zadrozny takes us down a rabbit hole and shows us how she unraveled Findley’s web of lies, linking her to years of fraud and harassment.
This is one of the boldest property scams in recent history, and Findley came dangerously close to succeeding/ We'll also talk about the loopholes that make these crimes possible.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<h3>Lisa Findley tried to steal Elvis Presley’s home. She almost got away with it.</h3><p>A con artist with a long history of scams almost pulled off her biggest scheme yet—stealing Elvis Presley’s iconic home, Graceland. Using fake documents and fabricated identities, Lisa Findley tried to claim ownership of the historic estate.</p><p>In this episode, NBC News reporter Brandy Zadrozny takes us down a rabbit hole and shows us how she unraveled Findley’s web of lies, linking her to years of fraud and harassment.</p><p>This is one of the boldest property scams in recent history, and Findley came dangerously close to succeeding/ We'll also talk about the loopholes that make these crimes possible.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2784</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>BONUS: How to Spot a Con Artist on the First Date and When to Walk Away</title>
      <description>In this episode, Dr. Jan Canty, a psychologist, author, and podcast host, shares essential advice on recognizing and avoiding con artists in modern relationships. Dr. Canty, who experienced betrayal and tragedy in her life, offers insights into the red flags of deceptive individuals and provides practical tips for safeguarding against potential scams. Through her 'Don't Con Yourself' TikTok series, Dr. Canty breaks down each stage of interactions with con artists and how to protect oneself. She also discusses her life’s work in grief counseling, her compelling past, and the importance of trusting your gut feeling in relationships.

Tune in to learn more about navigating the complexities of dating and protecting your personal boundaries.

00:20 Jan Canty's Tragic Past
01:05 Recognizing Con Artists
04:34 Understanding Psychopaths and Sociopaths
05:21 First Date Red Flags
14:24 Trusting Your Gut Instinct
16:09 CIA Techniques for Identifying Lies
21:34 Gaslighting
23:29 Dramatic and Unusual Histories
25:10 Understanding the Significance of Tattoos
28:26 The Importance of Personal Boundaries
29:26 Dealing with Missed Warning Signs
32:03 The Dangers of Sharing Personal Information Prematurely
35:14 Early Attempts at Control in Relationships
38:26 Preparing to Exit a Toxic Relationship
46:08 Finding True Love After Hardships

PRETEND podcast featuring Jan Canty's life story
The Sugar Daddy parts 1 &amp; 2: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1jXDdZvO197GVomFLseUiq?si=35087f142efd41bd
A Life Divided: A psychologist's memoir about the double life and murder of her husband - and her road to recovery
https://www.amazon.com/Life-Divided-psychologists-husband-recovery/dp/0578685922
Domino Effect of Murder Podcast
https://jancantyphd.com/podcast/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Dr. Jan Canty, a psychologist, author, and podcast host, shares essential advice on recognizing and avoiding con artists in modern relationships. Dr. Canty, who experienced betrayal and tragedy in her life, offers insights into the red flags of deceptive individuals and provides practical tips for safeguarding against potential scams. Through her 'Don't Con Yourself' TikTok series, Dr. Canty breaks down each stage of interactions with con artists and how to protect oneself. She also discusses her life’s work in grief counseling, her compelling past, and the importance of trusting your gut feeling in relationships.

Tune in to learn more about navigating the complexities of dating and protecting your personal boundaries.

00:20 Jan Canty's Tragic Past
01:05 Recognizing Con Artists
04:34 Understanding Psychopaths and Sociopaths
05:21 First Date Red Flags
14:24 Trusting Your Gut Instinct
16:09 CIA Techniques for Identifying Lies
21:34 Gaslighting
23:29 Dramatic and Unusual Histories
25:10 Understanding the Significance of Tattoos
28:26 The Importance of Personal Boundaries
29:26 Dealing with Missed Warning Signs
32:03 The Dangers of Sharing Personal Information Prematurely
35:14 Early Attempts at Control in Relationships
38:26 Preparing to Exit a Toxic Relationship
46:08 Finding True Love After Hardships

PRETEND podcast featuring Jan Canty's life story
The Sugar Daddy parts 1 &amp; 2: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1jXDdZvO197GVomFLseUiq?si=35087f142efd41bd
A Life Divided: A psychologist's memoir about the double life and murder of her husband - and her road to recovery
https://www.amazon.com/Life-Divided-psychologists-husband-recovery/dp/0578685922
Domino Effect of Murder Podcast
https://jancantyphd.com/podcast/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Dr. Jan Canty, a psychologist, author, and podcast host, shares essential advice on recognizing and avoiding con artists in modern relationships. Dr. Canty, who experienced betrayal and tragedy in her life, offers insights into the red flags of deceptive individuals and provides practical tips for safeguarding against potential scams. Through her 'Don't Con Yourself' TikTok series, Dr. Canty breaks down each stage of interactions with con artists and how to protect oneself. She also discusses her life’s work in grief counseling, her compelling past, and the importance of trusting your gut feeling in relationships.</p><p><br></p><p>Tune in to learn more about navigating the complexities of dating and protecting your personal boundaries.</p><p><br></p><p>00:20 Jan Canty's Tragic Past</p><p>01:05 Recognizing Con Artists</p><p>04:34 Understanding Psychopaths and Sociopaths</p><p>05:21 First Date Red Flags</p><p>14:24 Trusting Your Gut Instinct</p><p>16:09 CIA Techniques for Identifying Lies</p><p>21:34 Gaslighting</p><p>23:29 Dramatic and Unusual Histories</p><p>25:10 Understanding the Significance of Tattoos</p><p>28:26 The Importance of Personal Boundaries</p><p>29:26 Dealing with Missed Warning Signs</p><p>32:03 The Dangers of Sharing Personal Information Prematurely</p><p>35:14 Early Attempts at Control in Relationships</p><p>38:26 Preparing to Exit a Toxic Relationship</p><p>46:08 Finding True Love After Hardships</p><p><br></p><p><strong>PRETEND podcast featuring Jan Canty's life story</strong></p><p>The Sugar Daddy parts 1 &amp; 2: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/1jXDdZvO197GVomFLseUiq?si=35087f142efd41bd">https://open.spotify.com/episode/1jXDdZvO197GVomFLseUiq?si=35087f142efd41bd</a></p><p><strong>A Life Divided: A psychologist's memoir about the double life and murder of her husband - and her road to recovery</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Life-Divided-psychologists-husband-recovery/dp/0578685922">https://www.amazon.com/Life-Divided-psychologists-husband-recovery/dp/0578685922</a></p><p><strong>Domino Effect of Murder Podcast</strong></p><p><a href="https://jancantyphd.com/podcast/">https://jancantyphd.com/podcast/</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3009</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1908: LaDonna's Surrogates part 4</title>
      <description>The Rise and Fall of LaDonna’s Loudest Surrogate: David McClam
LaDonna Humphrey’s most vocal supporter, David McClam, launched the We Are Not Afraid podcast to defend her against mounting accusations. Episode after episode, McClam promised to deliver proof that LaDonna’s critics were lying. 
But instead of delivering proof, McClam brought Alecia Lockhart’s alleged sexual abuser on air to dismiss her claims, issued personal threats to show up at my doorstep and attack me, and even threatened to send the anti-gay hate group Westboro Baptist Church to Anthony Christopher’s gay club for a "blood bath."
This erratic behavior ultimately led to his podcast being pulled down from his hosting provider. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2024 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>LaDonna's Surrogates part 4</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>The Rise and Fall of LaDonna’s Loudest Surrogate: David McClam
LaDonna Humphrey’s most vocal supporter, David McClam, launched the We Are Not Afraid podcast to defend her against mounting accusations. Episode after episode, McClam promised to deliver proof that LaDonna’s critics were lying. 
But instead of delivering proof, McClam brought Alecia Lockhart’s alleged sexual abuser on air to dismiss her claims, issued personal threats to show up at my doorstep and attack me, and even threatened to send the anti-gay hate group Westboro Baptist Church to Anthony Christopher’s gay club for a "blood bath."
This erratic behavior ultimately led to his podcast being pulled down from his hosting provider. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p><strong>The Rise and Fall of LaDonna’s Loudest Surrogate: David McClam</strong></p><p>LaDonna Humphrey’s most vocal supporter, David McClam, launched the <em>We Are Not Afraid</em> podcast to defend her against mounting accusations. Episode after episode, McClam promised to deliver proof that LaDonna’s critics were lying. </p><p>But instead of delivering proof, McClam brought Alecia Lockhart’s alleged sexual abuser on air to dismiss her claims, issued personal threats to show up at my doorstep and attack me, and even threatened to send the anti-gay hate group Westboro Baptist Church to Anthony Christopher’s gay club for a "blood bath."</p><p>This erratic behavior ultimately led to his podcast being pulled down from his hosting provider. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2190</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1907: LaDonna's Surrogates part 3</title>
      <description>LaDonna Humphrey groomed Lexi Kakis to be her next close ally—a “surrogate in training,” if you will. Drawn in by their shared passion for cold cases, Kakis found herself getting deeper into Humphrey’s world. Surprisingly, Kakis says she never experienced the harassment others have claimed, but during our interview, she learned how LaDonna truly felt about her.
Kakis was with LaDonna the weekend the Pretend podcast series came out, and in a fit of desperation, LaDonna asked her to retaliate against her enemies. Now, Kakis looks back on how she narrowly avoided becoming more entangled in LaDonna's web.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2024 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>LaDonna's Surrogates part 3</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/88e00732-eab4-11ee-87df-e326179c84c1/image/0263d46b9c077303174a993164aef6cd.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>LaDonna Humphrey groomed Lexi Kakis to be her next close ally—a “surrogate in training,” if you will. Drawn in by their shared passion for cold cases, Kakis found herself getting deeper into Humphrey’s world. Surprisingly, Kakis says she never experienced the harassment others have claimed, but during our interview, she learned how LaDonna truly felt about her.
Kakis was with LaDonna the weekend the Pretend podcast series came out, and in a fit of desperation, LaDonna asked her to retaliate against her enemies. Now, Kakis looks back on how she narrowly avoided becoming more entangled in LaDonna's web.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>LaDonna Humphrey groomed Lexi Kakis to be her next close ally—a “surrogate in training,” if you will. Drawn in by their shared passion for cold cases, Kakis found herself getting deeper into Humphrey’s world. Surprisingly, Kakis says she never experienced the harassment others have claimed, but during our interview, she learned how LaDonna truly felt about her.</p><p>Kakis was with LaDonna the weekend the <em>Pretend</em> podcast series came out, and in a fit of desperation, LaDonna asked her to retaliate against her enemies. Now, Kakis looks back on how she narrowly avoided becoming more entangled in LaDonna's web.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>1955</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1906: LaDonna's Surrogates part 2</title>
      <description>What's the old saying? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Well, it turns out that Dennis McCaslin, editor of LaDonna's tabloid blog, has some skeletons in his closet. 

Listen to part 3 of LaDonna's Surrogates:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/ladonnas-part-3-114712491
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2024 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>LaDonna's Surrogates part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/88983fa6-eab4-11ee-87df-2380ab4379f0/image/0263d46b9c077303174a993164aef6cd.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>What's the old saying? People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
Well, it turns out that Dennis McCaslin, editor of LaDonna's tabloid blog, has some skeletons in his closet. 

Listen to part 3 of LaDonna's Surrogates:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/ladonnas-part-3-114712491
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>What's the old saying? People who <em>live</em> in <em>glass houses</em> shouldn't throw stones.</p><p>Well, it turns out that Dennis McCaslin, editor of LaDonna's tabloid blog, has some skeletons in his closet. </p><p><br></p><p>Listen to part 3 of LaDonna's Surrogates:</p><p>https://www.patreon.com/posts/ladonnas-part-3-114712491</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>1882</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1905: LaDonna's Surrogates part 1</title>
      <description>LaDonna Humphrey uses her surrogates to do her dirty work; in part one, 
we discuss how she weaponized Dennis McCaslin, a Fort Smith, Arkansas tabloid blogger, to go after her enemies.

Listen to LaDonna's Surrogates Part 2: https://www.patreon.com/posts/ladonnas-part-2-114024374

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>LaDonna's Surrogates part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/88506a14-eab4-11ee-87df-53a6cc44118f/image/0263d46b9c077303174a993164aef6cd.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>LaDonna Humphrey uses her surrogates to do her dirty work; in part one, 
we discuss how she weaponized Dennis McCaslin, a Fort Smith, Arkansas tabloid blogger, to go after her enemies.

Listen to LaDonna's Surrogates Part 2: https://www.patreon.com/posts/ladonnas-part-2-114024374

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>LaDonna Humphrey uses her surrogates to do her dirty work; in part one, </p><p>we discuss how she weaponized Dennis McCaslin, a Fort Smith, Arkansas tabloid blogger, to go after her enemies.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Listen to LaDonna's Surrogates Part 2:</strong> https://www.patreon.com/posts/ladonnas-part-2-114024374</p><p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>1698</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1904: The White Collar Support Group</title>
      <description>It’s hard to imagine former executives, investment fraudsters, and insider traders gathering for weekly support meetings.

When I first heard about a support group for white-collar criminals, I was skeptical. It sounded like an SNL sketch: former hedge fund managers, insider traders, and embezzlers sitting in a circle, sharing their woes. However, Jeff Grant, the founder of the White Collar Support Group, doesn’t see it that way. After serving time for his crimes, Grant emerged with a mission—to help others like him rebuild their lives, one meeting at a time. “I was lost,” he admits.

After his release from prison, Grant realized there was no blueprint for people like him to re-enter society. That’s why he founded the White Collar Support Group, a space for those prosecuted for financial crimes to navigate life after prison.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Oct 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The White Collar Support Group</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/88079a1e-eab4-11ee-87df-53b14869f620/image/a2fd4dcbb07a7ff4d9aac614f91bcaf1.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>It’s hard to imagine former executives, investment fraudsters, and insider traders gathering for weekly support meetings.

When I first heard about a support group for white-collar criminals, I was skeptical. It sounded like an SNL sketch: former hedge fund managers, insider traders, and embezzlers sitting in a circle, sharing their woes. However, Jeff Grant, the founder of the White Collar Support Group, doesn’t see it that way. After serving time for his crimes, Grant emerged with a mission—to help others like him rebuild their lives, one meeting at a time. “I was lost,” he admits.

After his release from prison, Grant realized there was no blueprint for people like him to re-enter society. That’s why he founded the White Collar Support Group, a space for those prosecuted for financial crimes to navigate life after prison.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>It’s hard to imagine former executives, investment fraudsters, and insider traders gathering for weekly support meetings.</p><p><br></p><p>When I first heard about a support group for white-collar criminals, I was skeptical. It sounded like an SNL sketch: former hedge fund managers, insider traders, and embezzlers sitting in a circle, sharing their woes. However, Jeff Grant, the founder of the White Collar Support Group, doesn’t see it that way. After serving time for his crimes, Grant emerged with a mission—to help others like him rebuild their lives, one meeting at a time. “I was lost,” he admits.</p><p><br></p><p>After his release from prison, Grant realized there was no blueprint for people like him to re-enter society. That’s why he founded the White Collar Support Group, a space for those prosecuted for financial crimes to navigate life after prison.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3503</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1903: The Naked Surgeon Revisited</title>
      <description>Where do sovereign citizens go when they need medical attention? Some of them seek help from homeopathic quacks like Rick Van Thiel. 
Rick Van Thiel is not a surgeon. He's a porn star operating on people with dirty scalpels, reused needles, surrounded by filth. And the worst part is that he performs his surgeries in the nude. 

This episode is part of my sovereign citizens series. I first learned about this story from Jerri William's podcast called FBI retired Case File Review. 

Disclaimer
It's safe to assume that most PRETEND episodes are unsuitable for young children. Unfortunately, this is one of those episodes. In fact, trigger warning: today, we're going to talk about sexual assault and suicide. This episode is pretty disgusting. So, if you have the stomach for it, please proceed. You've been warned.  


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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Naked Surgeon Revisited</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Where do sovereign citizens go when they need medical attention? Some of them seek help from homeopathic quacks like Rick Van Thiel. 
Rick Van Thiel is not a surgeon. He's a porn star operating on people with dirty scalpels, reused needles, surrounded by filth. And the worst part is that he performs his surgeries in the nude. 

This episode is part of my sovereign citizens series. I first learned about this story from Jerri William's podcast called FBI retired Case File Review. 

Disclaimer
It's safe to assume that most PRETEND episodes are unsuitable for young children. Unfortunately, this is one of those episodes. In fact, trigger warning: today, we're going to talk about sexual assault and suicide. This episode is pretty disgusting. So, if you have the stomach for it, please proceed. You've been warned.  


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        <![CDATA[<p>Where do sovereign citizens go when they need medical attention? Some of them seek help from homeopathic quacks like Rick Van Thiel. </p><p>Rick Van Thiel is not a surgeon. He's a porn star operating on people with dirty scalpels, reused needles, surrounded by filth. And the worst part is that he performs his surgeries in the nude. </p><p><br></p><p>This episode is part of my <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/3826t8sGmYqZ1PZH9jdq6i?si=5e115a6f9e214c4c">sovereign citizens</a> series. I first learned about this story from Jerri William's podcast called <a href="https://jerriwilliams.com/podcast-2/">FBI retired Case File Review</a>. </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Disclaimer</strong></p><p>It's safe to assume that most PRETEND episodes are unsuitable for young children. Unfortunately, this is one of those episodes. In fact, trigger warning: today, we're going to talk about sexual assault and suicide. This episode is pretty disgusting. So, if you have the stomach for it, please proceed. You've been warned.  </p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Check out my Spotify Radar Billboard in New York City:</strong></p><p>https://www.instagram.com/reel/DA8vNvnOSTF/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&amp;igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3186</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1902:  The Greatest Footballer Who Never Played</title>
      <description>In this episode of PRETEND, we uncover the unbelievable story of Carlos 
Henrique Raposo, better known as "Kaiser," the man who lived the life of
 a soccer legend without ever kicking a ball. He partied like a star, 
signed with major teams, and tricked the entire football world for 
nearly three decades. I sit down with the producer of Kaiser: The Greatest Footballer Never to Play Football, Louis Myles, to unravel how Kaiser pulled off this audacious stunt and the real story behind the myth.

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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Greatest Footballer Who Never Played</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode of PRETEND, we uncover the unbelievable story of Carlos 
Henrique Raposo, better known as "Kaiser," the man who lived the life of
 a soccer legend without ever kicking a ball. He partied like a star, 
signed with major teams, and tricked the entire football world for 
nearly three decades. I sit down with the producer of Kaiser: The Greatest Footballer Never to Play Football, Louis Myles, to unravel how Kaiser pulled off this audacious stunt and the real story behind the myth.

Keep the conversation going. Join the official PRETEND Facebook Group:
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of PRETEND, we uncover the unbelievable story of Carlos </p><p>Henrique Raposo, better known as "Kaiser," the man who lived the life of</p><p> a soccer legend without ever kicking a ball. He partied like a star, </p><p>signed with major teams, and tricked the entire football world for </p><p>nearly three decades. I sit down with the producer of <em>Kaiser: The Greatest Footballer Never to Play Football</em>, Louis Myles, to unravel how Kaiser pulled off this audacious stunt and the real story behind the myth.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Keep the conversation going. Join the official PRETEND Facebook Group:</strong></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2101</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1901: The Return of the Stalker</title>
      <description>In this episode of PRETEND, I’m taking you back to the case of Tanya and Rick Fernandez—the Arizona couple behind one of the most bizarre harassment campaigns I’ve ever covered. For those of you who followed The Stalker series, you might think this story ended when they struck a plea deal, but not so fast. Despite completing court-ordered counseling and walking away without convictions, it looks like the Fernandezes are back at it.

I'll fill you in on everything that's happened since our last episode, including an anonymous email, a bizarre self-published book, and their children's involvement in keeping the harassment alive. 

If you thought this story was over, you’ll want to hear what’s happened since. 

______ 

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      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Return of the Stalker</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>19</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode of PRETEND, I’m taking you back to the case of Tanya and Rick Fernandez—the Arizona couple behind one of the most bizarre harassment campaigns I’ve ever covered. For those of you who followed The Stalker series, you might think this story ended when they struck a plea deal, but not so fast. Despite completing court-ordered counseling and walking away without convictions, it looks like the Fernandezes are back at it.

I'll fill you in on everything that's happened since our last episode, including an anonymous email, a bizarre self-published book, and their children's involvement in keeping the harassment alive. 

If you thought this story was over, you’ll want to hear what’s happened since. 

______ 

Support our Patreon members and their small businesses:

Rebel Dogs Detroit - is committed to saving dogs’ lives - not just cleaning up the streets. 

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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of PRETEND, I’m taking you back to the case of Tanya and Rick Fernandez—the Arizona couple behind one of the most bizarre harassment campaigns I’ve ever covered. For those of you who followed The Stalker series, you might think this story ended when they struck a plea deal, but not so fast. Despite completing court-ordered counseling and walking away without convictions, it looks like the Fernandezes are back at it.</p><p><br></p><p>I'll fill you in on everything that's happened since our last episode, including an anonymous email, a bizarre self-published book, and their children's involvement in keeping the harassment alive. </p><p><br></p><p>If you thought this story was over, you’ll want to hear what’s happened since. </p><p><br></p><p>______ </p><p><br></p><p>Support our Patreon members and their small businesses:</p><p><br></p><p>Rebel Dogs Detroit - is committed to saving dogs’ lives - not just cleaning up the streets. </p><p><br></p><p>https://rebeldogsdetroit.com</p><p><br></p><p>Guatemala Trading Company - Delicious chocolates, coffee, and spices from Guatemala </p><p><br></p><p>https://guatemalatradingcompany.com/</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2026</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1816: Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 16</title>
      <description>Can you believe this is the 16th episode of our investigation into LaDonna Humphrey—a story that, honestly, I didn’t think would last this long. But here we are.
Now, if you’ve followed along, you know this has been a wild ride. LaDonna, once a respected figure in the true crime community, has become the center of some truly shocking accusations. Stealing evidence from the Fort Smith Police Department? Allegations of harassment? Manipulating people for her own gain? It’s been hard to keep up, even for me.
In this episode, we’ll get a little help trying to make sense of it all. I brought in retired FBI profiler Julia Cowley—yes, the Julia Cowley, the one who worked on the Golden State Killer case. She will help us break down LaDonna’s behavior and explain why someone might go to such extreme lengths to control others. You might be surprised by some of the parallels she draws between white-collar criminals and more violent offenders.
We’re also going to revisit some of the disturbing messages that LaDonna has allegedly sent to her victims. And I’ll share some new evidence we’ve uncovered—evidence that links multiple harassing messages to a phone number connected to LaDonna herself. It’s the kind of proof that, quite frankly, is hard to ignore.
But here’s what makes this episode different: today, we’re not just looking at the past. We’re asking what’s next for LaDonna Humphrey. With court cases, potential criminal investigations, and a growing list of accusers, is the end finally near for her? Or is this just another chapter in a never-ending saga?
Guest:
Julia Cowley, Retired FBI Profiler
https://www.truecrimeconsult.com/

Watch LIVE Q&amp;A:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJr5bDWJ2nY
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      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Sep 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 16</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/86e80c40-eab4-11ee-87df-8b05d537d0eb/image/0263d46b9c077303174a993164aef6cd.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>Can you believe this is the 16th episode of our investigation into LaDonna Humphrey—a story that, honestly, I didn’t think would last this long. But here we are.
Now, if you’ve followed along, you know this has been a wild ride. LaDonna, once a respected figure in the true crime community, has become the center of some truly shocking accusations. Stealing evidence from the Fort Smith Police Department? Allegations of harassment? Manipulating people for her own gain? It’s been hard to keep up, even for me.
In this episode, we’ll get a little help trying to make sense of it all. I brought in retired FBI profiler Julia Cowley—yes, the Julia Cowley, the one who worked on the Golden State Killer case. She will help us break down LaDonna’s behavior and explain why someone might go to such extreme lengths to control others. You might be surprised by some of the parallels she draws between white-collar criminals and more violent offenders.
We’re also going to revisit some of the disturbing messages that LaDonna has allegedly sent to her victims. And I’ll share some new evidence we’ve uncovered—evidence that links multiple harassing messages to a phone number connected to LaDonna herself. It’s the kind of proof that, quite frankly, is hard to ignore.
But here’s what makes this episode different: today, we’re not just looking at the past. We’re asking what’s next for LaDonna Humphrey. With court cases, potential criminal investigations, and a growing list of accusers, is the end finally near for her? Or is this just another chapter in a never-ending saga?
Guest:
Julia Cowley, Retired FBI Profiler
https://www.truecrimeconsult.com/

Watch LIVE Q&amp;A:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJr5bDWJ2nY
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Can you believe this is the 16th episode of our investigation into LaDonna Humphrey—a story that, honestly, I didn’t think would last this long. But here we are.</p><p>Now, if you’ve followed along, you know this has been a wild ride. LaDonna, once a respected figure in the true crime community, has become the center of some truly shocking accusations. Stealing evidence from the Fort Smith Police Department? Allegations of harassment? Manipulating people for her own gain? It’s been hard to keep up, even for me.</p><p>In this episode, we’ll get a little help trying to make sense of it all. I brought in retired FBI profiler Julia Cowley—yes, <em>the</em> Julia Cowley, the one who worked on the Golden State Killer case. She will help us break down LaDonna’s behavior and explain why someone might go to such extreme lengths to control others. You might be surprised by some of the parallels she draws between white-collar criminals and more violent offenders.</p><p>We’re also going to revisit some of the disturbing messages that LaDonna has allegedly sent to her victims. And I’ll share some new evidence we’ve uncovered—evidence that links multiple harassing messages to a phone number connected to LaDonna herself. It’s the kind of proof that, quite frankly, is hard to ignore.</p><p>But here’s what makes this episode different: today, we’re not just looking at the past. We’re asking what’s next for LaDonna Humphrey. With court cases, potential criminal investigations, and a growing list of accusers, is the end finally near for her? Or is this just another chapter in a never-ending saga?</p><p><strong>Guest:</strong></p><p>Julia Cowley, Retired FBI Profiler</p><p><a href="https://www.truecrimeconsult.com/">https://www.truecrimeconsult.com/</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Watch LIVE Q&amp;A:</strong></p><p>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJr5bDWJ2nY</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3216</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1815: Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 15</title>
      <description>We continue our investigation into Charles Ray Vines and his potential 
involvement in the Melissa Witt murder. In this episode, we track down 
Vines’ former neighbor and friend, Thomas Seymour. Seymour claims that 
he spoke with Vines just before Vines was heading to the bowling alley 
to meet a girl named Melissa. What other information does Seymour have 
that could shed light on this 30-year-old mystery?
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      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 15</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>We continue our investigation into Charles Ray Vines and his potential 
involvement in the Melissa Witt murder. In this episode, we track down 
Vines’ former neighbor and friend, Thomas Seymour. Seymour claims that 
he spoke with Vines just before Vines was heading to the bowling alley 
to meet a girl named Melissa. What other information does Seymour have 
that could shed light on this 30-year-old mystery?
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We continue our investigation into Charles Ray Vines and his potential </p><p>involvement in the Melissa Witt murder. In this episode, we track down </p><p>Vines’ former neighbor and friend, Thomas Seymour. Seymour claims that </p><p>he spoke with Vines just before Vines was heading to the bowling alley </p><p>to meet a girl named Melissa. What other information does Seymour have </p><p>that could shed light on this 30-year-old mystery?</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2493</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1814: Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 14</title>
      <description>I’ve been investigating the Melissa Witt case for a while now, and just 
when I thought I had a handle on it, a new lead dropped into my lap. In 
this episode, I sit down with Patti Rush, a victim advocate who might 
have uncovered the most crucial evidence yet. We’re talking 
about a case so warped by misinformation that even those 
closest to it can’t tell what’s real anymore. But now, we’re pulling on a
 thread that could unravel the whole story—and maybe, just maybe, lead 
us to the truth about who really killed Melissa Witt.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Sep 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 14</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>I’ve been investigating the Melissa Witt case for a while now, and just 
when I thought I had a handle on it, a new lead dropped into my lap. In 
this episode, I sit down with Patti Rush, a victim advocate who might 
have uncovered the most crucial evidence yet. We’re talking 
about a case so warped by misinformation that even those 
closest to it can’t tell what’s real anymore. But now, we’re pulling on a
 thread that could unravel the whole story—and maybe, just maybe, lead 
us to the truth about who really killed Melissa Witt.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>I’ve been investigating the Melissa Witt case for a while now, and just </p><p>when I thought I had a handle on it, a new lead dropped into my lap. In </p><p>this episode, I sit down with Patti Rush, a victim advocate who might </p><p>have uncovered the most crucial evidence yet. We’re talking </p><p>about a case so warped by misinformation that even those </p><p>closest to it can’t tell what’s real anymore. But now, we’re pulling on a</p><p> thread that could unravel the whole story—and maybe, just maybe, lead </p><p>us to the truth about who really killed Melissa Witt.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2359</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>LADONNA BONUS: A Swing and a Miss</title>
      <description>"Javier, aren't you worried that LaDonna might target you next?" That's the question I get asked most frequently. The answer is too late.
Even before this series dropped, LaDonna began sending me spoof emails. I've received various messages, including some from fake accounts, and even attempts to hack into my podcast platform. Additionally, LaDonna tried other creative ways to obstruct my investigation and stop the legitimate reporting of her abusive behavior toward others.
Fun, fun.

________

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      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>"Javier, aren't you worried that LaDonna might target you next?" That's the question I get asked most frequently. The answer is too late.
Even before this series dropped, LaDonna began sending me spoof emails. I've received various messages, including some from fake accounts, and even attempts to hack into my podcast platform. Additionally, LaDonna tried other creative ways to obstruct my investigation and stop the legitimate reporting of her abusive behavior toward others.
Fun, fun.

________

If you need an Intellectual Property attorney, I know a good one.
https://www.casimirjones.com/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>"Javier, aren't you worried that LaDonna might target you next?" That's the question I get asked most frequently. The answer is too late.</p><p>Even before this series dropped, LaDonna began sending me spoof emails. I've received various messages, including some from fake accounts, and even attempts to hack into my podcast platform. Additionally, LaDonna tried other creative ways to obstruct my investigation and stop the legitimate reporting of her abusive behavior toward others.</p><p>Fun, fun.</p><p><br></p><p>________</p><p><br></p><p>If you need an Intellectual Property attorney, I know a good one.</p><p>https://www.casimirjones.com/</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1293</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1813: Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 13</title>
      <description>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 13</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2137</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1812: Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 12</title>
      <description>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 12</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/857ad8f6-eab4-11ee-87df-cb3dd3f9b68d/image/0263d46b9c077303174a993164aef6cd.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2665</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1811: Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 11</title>
      <description>Every charity organization LaDonna Humphrey has led seems to collapse under the weight of controversy and financial mismanagement. Today, we're closely examining Oasis of Northwest Arkansas, a sober living facility under LaDonna's direction. Our investigation reveals alarming stories of harassment, financial mismanagement, and overcrowded, unsafe living conditions.
A former resident of Oasis shares her harrowing experience living at the facility. She recounts how donations intended for her baby shower were allegedly kept by LaDonna, leaving her without the promised support. Residents describe living in cramped conditions, with up to 15 women and children in a house meant for nine. Basic amenities like smoke detectors, working washers, and air conditioning are often missing or broken.
We'll also examine the nonprofit's questionable accounting practices. Oasis's financial records show suspicious entries, such as LaDonna working 65 hours per week for only $15,600 annually and unexplained professional fees amounting to $58,000.
LaDonna is accused of using intimidation tactics, such as threatening to kick out residents over minor infractions and enforcing arbitrary fines for damages— creating a culture of fear and control.
Call to Action:
If you're as concerned as we are about the allegations against Oasis of Northwest Arkansas, we urge you to take action. Contact the Arkansas Attorney General's Office at tabitha.davis@arkansasag.gov or call 501-682-1306. You can also raise awareness by posting on social media with the hashtag #justiceforoasis.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 11</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Every charity organization LaDonna Humphrey has led seems to collapse under the weight of controversy and financial mismanagement. Today, we're closely examining Oasis of Northwest Arkansas, a sober living facility under LaDonna's direction. Our investigation reveals alarming stories of harassment, financial mismanagement, and overcrowded, unsafe living conditions.
A former resident of Oasis shares her harrowing experience living at the facility. She recounts how donations intended for her baby shower were allegedly kept by LaDonna, leaving her without the promised support. Residents describe living in cramped conditions, with up to 15 women and children in a house meant for nine. Basic amenities like smoke detectors, working washers, and air conditioning are often missing or broken.
We'll also examine the nonprofit's questionable accounting practices. Oasis's financial records show suspicious entries, such as LaDonna working 65 hours per week for only $15,600 annually and unexplained professional fees amounting to $58,000.
LaDonna is accused of using intimidation tactics, such as threatening to kick out residents over minor infractions and enforcing arbitrary fines for damages— creating a culture of fear and control.
Call to Action:
If you're as concerned as we are about the allegations against Oasis of Northwest Arkansas, we urge you to take action. Contact the Arkansas Attorney General's Office at tabitha.davis@arkansasag.gov or call 501-682-1306. You can also raise awareness by posting on social media with the hashtag #justiceforoasis.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Every charity organization LaDonna Humphrey has led seems to collapse under the weight of controversy and financial mismanagement. Today, we're closely examining Oasis of Northwest Arkansas, a sober living facility under LaDonna's direction. Our investigation reveals alarming stories of harassment, financial mismanagement, and overcrowded, unsafe living conditions.</p><p>A former resident of Oasis shares her harrowing experience living at the facility. She recounts how donations intended for her baby shower were allegedly kept by LaDonna, leaving her without the promised support. Residents describe living in cramped conditions, with up to 15 women and children in a house meant for nine. Basic amenities like smoke detectors, working washers, and air conditioning are often missing or broken.</p><p>We'll also examine the nonprofit's questionable accounting practices. Oasis's financial records show suspicious entries, such as LaDonna working 65 hours per week for only $15,600 annually and unexplained professional fees amounting to $58,000.</p><p>LaDonna is accused of using intimidation tactics, such as threatening to kick out residents over minor infractions and enforcing arbitrary fines for damages— creating a culture of fear and control.</p><p><strong>Call to Action:</strong></p><p>If you're as concerned as we are about the allegations against Oasis of Northwest Arkansas, we urge you to take action. Contact the Arkansas Attorney General's Office at tabitha.davis@arkansasag.gov or call 501-682-1306. You can also raise awareness by posting on social media with the hashtag #justiceforoasis.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3584</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1810: Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 10</title>
      <description>Every charity organization LaDonna Humphrey has led seems to collapse under the weight of controversy and financial mismanagement.
Today, we scrutinize LaDonna Humphrey's non-profit world, focusing on her troubled history with charities. Our investigation reveals a pattern of failed ventures, harassment accusations, and questionable financial practices.
______
I'd like to thank Jayson Blair with the Silver Linings Podcast for allowing me to use clips from his interview with LaDonna Humphrey. 
Listen the Silver Linings Podcast: https://linktr.ee/silverliningshandbookpodcast
Also, referenced in this episode is the LaDonna Humphrey Talks Sub Reddit: 
https://www.reddit.com/r/LadonnaHumphreyTalk/

NEW EPISODES are available now:

Part 11 

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/posts/whos-afraid-of-108675318

PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend/id1245307962?i=1000663349553

Part 12
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/posts/whos-afraid-of-108813124

PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend/id1245307962?i=1000664222141


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 10</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Every charity organization LaDonna Humphrey has led seems to collapse under the weight of controversy and financial mismanagement.
Today, we scrutinize LaDonna Humphrey's non-profit world, focusing on her troubled history with charities. Our investigation reveals a pattern of failed ventures, harassment accusations, and questionable financial practices.
______
I'd like to thank Jayson Blair with the Silver Linings Podcast for allowing me to use clips from his interview with LaDonna Humphrey. 
Listen the Silver Linings Podcast: https://linktr.ee/silverliningshandbookpodcast
Also, referenced in this episode is the LaDonna Humphrey Talks Sub Reddit: 
https://www.reddit.com/r/LadonnaHumphreyTalk/

NEW EPISODES are available now:

Part 11 

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/posts/whos-afraid-of-108675318

PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend/id1245307962?i=1000663349553

Part 12
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/posts/whos-afraid-of-108813124

PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend/id1245307962?i=1000664222141


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Every charity organization LaDonna Humphrey has led seems to collapse under the weight of controversy and financial mismanagement.</p><p>Today, we scrutinize LaDonna Humphrey's non-profit world, focusing on her troubled history with charities. Our investigation reveals a pattern of failed ventures, harassment accusations, and questionable financial practices.</p><p>______</p><p>I'd like to thank Jayson Blair with the Silver Linings Podcast for allowing me to use clips from his interview with LaDonna Humphrey. </p><p>Listen the Silver Linings Podcast: <a href="https://linktr.ee/silverliningshandbookpodcast">https://linktr.ee/silverliningshandbookpodcast</a></p><p>Also, referenced in this episode is the LaDonna Humphrey Talks Sub Reddit: </p><p><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/LadonnaHumphreyTalk/">https://www.reddit.com/r/LadonnaHumphreyTalk/</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>NEW EPISODES are available now:</strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong><u>Part 11 </u></strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Patreon:</strong> https://www.patreon.com/posts/whos-afraid-of-108675318</p><p><br></p><p><strong>PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast: </strong>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend/id1245307962?i=1000663349553</p><p><br></p><p><strong><u>Part 12</u></strong></p><p><strong>Patreon:</strong> https://www.patreon.com/posts/whos-afraid-of-108813124</p><p><br></p><p><strong>PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast: </strong>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend/id1245307962?i=1000664222141</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1797</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1809: Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 9</title>
      <description>Content Disclaimer: This episode contains discussions of sexual assault.
Today, we're going to talk about the enigma that is LaDonna Humphrey. Like the fact that she was logged in under the same death fetish account, harassing her co-host, yet she denies creating the account. We'll also try to untangle how LaDonna went from attacking the death fetishers to befriending them. Or perhaps her plan to pin Missy Witt's murder on Daniel Watson despite having zero evidence. 
Credits:
    Written and produced by Javier Leiva.
    Produced by Alison Byrne.
    Edited by Puneeth Shenoy.
    Theme music by Joel Basile with thechicken.net.

Referenced in this episode:
Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/LadonnaHumphreyTalk
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Jul 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 9</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Content Disclaimer: This episode contains discussions of sexual assault.
Today, we're going to talk about the enigma that is LaDonna Humphrey. Like the fact that she was logged in under the same death fetish account, harassing her co-host, yet she denies creating the account. We'll also try to untangle how LaDonna went from attacking the death fetishers to befriending them. Or perhaps her plan to pin Missy Witt's murder on Daniel Watson despite having zero evidence. 
Credits:
    Written and produced by Javier Leiva.
    Produced by Alison Byrne.
    Edited by Puneeth Shenoy.
    Theme music by Joel Basile with thechicken.net.

Referenced in this episode:
Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/LadonnaHumphreyTalk
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Content Disclaimer: This episode contains discussions of sexual assault.</p><p>Today, we're going to talk about the enigma that is LaDonna Humphrey. Like the fact that she was logged in under the same death fetish account, harassing her co-host, yet she denies creating the account. We'll also try to untangle how LaDonna went from attacking the death fetishers to befriending them. Or perhaps her plan to pin Missy Witt's murder on Daniel Watson despite having zero evidence. </p><p>Credits:</p><p>    Written and produced by Javier Leiva.</p><p>    Produced by Alison Byrne.</p><p>    Edited by Puneeth Shenoy.</p><p>    Theme music by Joel Basile with <a href="https://thechicken.net">thechicken.net</a>.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Referenced in this episode:</strong></p><p><strong>Reddit:</strong> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/LadonnaHumphreyTalk/">https://www.reddit.com/r/LadonnaHumphreyTalk</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2920</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1808: Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 8</title>
      <description>To truly understand LaDonna Humphrey, we need to delve into her 
childhood. In an exclusive interview, a family member describes the 
years of harassing messages and relentless vendettas that have torn 
their family apart. This episode sheds light on the deep-rooted 
conflicts that have shaped LaDonna's tumultuous life.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 8</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>To truly understand LaDonna Humphrey, we need to delve into her 
childhood. In an exclusive interview, a family member describes the 
years of harassing messages and relentless vendettas that have torn 
their family apart. This episode sheds light on the deep-rooted 
conflicts that have shaped LaDonna's tumultuous life.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>To truly understand LaDonna Humphrey, we need to delve into her </p><p>childhood. In an exclusive interview, a family member describes the </p><p>years of harassing messages and relentless vendettas that have torn </p><p>their family apart. This episode sheds light on the deep-rooted </p><p>conflicts that have shaped LaDonna's tumultuous life.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2351</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1807: Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 7</title>
      <description>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 7</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2465</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1806: Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 6</title>
      <description>STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING! The LaDonna Humphrey interview episodes are in. 
In this first part of my exclusive interview with LaDonna Humphrey, we dive deep into the accusations and controversies surrounding her. I confront LaDonna with the tough questions to unravel the intricate details of her story. We also hear from her supporters. Don't miss out on Part 2 of this interview, available now on Patreon and Pretend+ on Apple Podcasts.
Episode Highlights:
    -LaDonna's surprising reaction to my interview request
   - Confronting LaDonna about accusations related to Melissa Witt's case files and the River Valley Killer.
   - Hearing from LaDonna's supporters and their perspectives on the situation.
   - Discussing LaDonna's admissions about sending spoof messages and other allegations.
   - A deep dive into LaDonna's legal battles and contempt charges.
   - Addressing the evidence and LaDonna's strategy against the accusations.

Written and produced by: Javier Leiva
Producer: Alison Byrne
Editor: Puneeth Shenoy with the Podcast Pundits
Theme Music by: Joe Basile with The Chicken (thechicken.net)
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      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 6</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING! The LaDonna Humphrey interview episodes are in. 
In this first part of my exclusive interview with LaDonna Humphrey, we dive deep into the accusations and controversies surrounding her. I confront LaDonna with the tough questions to unravel the intricate details of her story. We also hear from her supporters. Don't miss out on Part 2 of this interview, available now on Patreon and Pretend+ on Apple Podcasts.
Episode Highlights:
    -LaDonna's surprising reaction to my interview request
   - Confronting LaDonna about accusations related to Melissa Witt's case files and the River Valley Killer.
   - Hearing from LaDonna's supporters and their perspectives on the situation.
   - Discussing LaDonna's admissions about sending spoof messages and other allegations.
   - A deep dive into LaDonna's legal battles and contempt charges.
   - Addressing the evidence and LaDonna's strategy against the accusations.

Written and produced by: Javier Leiva
Producer: Alison Byrne
Editor: Puneeth Shenoy with the Podcast Pundits
Theme Music by: Joe Basile with The Chicken (thechicken.net)
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING! The LaDonna Humphrey interview episodes are in. </p><p>In this first part of my exclusive interview with LaDonna Humphrey, we dive deep into the accusations and controversies surrounding her. I confront LaDonna with the tough questions to unravel the intricate details of her story. We also hear from her supporters. Don't miss out on Part 2 of this interview, available now on Patreon and Pretend+ on Apple Podcasts.</p><p>Episode Highlights:</p><p>    -LaDonna's surprising reaction to my interview request</p><p>   - Confronting LaDonna about accusations related to Melissa Witt's case files and the River Valley Killer.</p><p>   - Hearing from LaDonna's supporters and their perspectives on the situation.</p><p>   - Discussing LaDonna's admissions about sending spoof messages and other allegations.</p><p>   - A deep dive into LaDonna's legal battles and contempt charges.</p><p>   - Addressing the evidence and LaDonna's strategy against the accusations.</p><p><br></p><p>Written and produced by: Javier Leiva</p><p>Producer: Alison Byrne</p><p>Editor: Puneeth Shenoy with the Podcast Pundits</p><p>Theme Music by: Joe Basile with The Chicken (thechicken.net)</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>1805: Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 5</title>
      <description>True Crime Author LaDonna Humphrey Targets Ex-Boyfriend in Melissa Witt Killing, According to Recordings
LaDonna Humphrey is accused of relentlessly pursuing Daniel Watson as a suspect in the unsolved murder of Melissa Witt. Watson, who has consistently maintained his innocence, claims he is being unfairly targeted by Humphrey, who is alleged to be driven by personal and financial motives. 
Later in the episode, Julie Murray, whose sister Maura Murray disappeared in 2004, also had a contentious experience with Humphrey. Despite initial cooperation, Murray's family became wary of Humphrey's motives, leading to accusations of fabricated evidence and misrepresentation.
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Today's episode was written and produced by Javier Leiva.
Producer: Alison Byrne 
Editor: Puneeth Shenoy with the Podcast Pundits https://podcastpundits.com/
Theme Music: The Chicken https://www.thechicken.net/
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      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2024 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 5</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>True Crime Author LaDonna Humphrey Targets Ex-Boyfriend in Melissa Witt Killing, According to Recordings
LaDonna Humphrey is accused of relentlessly pursuing Daniel Watson as a suspect in the unsolved murder of Melissa Witt. Watson, who has consistently maintained his innocence, claims he is being unfairly targeted by Humphrey, who is alleged to be driven by personal and financial motives. 
Later in the episode, Julie Murray, whose sister Maura Murray disappeared in 2004, also had a contentious experience with Humphrey. Despite initial cooperation, Murray's family became wary of Humphrey's motives, leading to accusations of fabricated evidence and misrepresentation.
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For more information and updates on Maura Murray's case, visit mauramurraymissing.org.

Today's episode was written and produced by Javier Leiva.
Producer: Alison Byrne 
Editor: Puneeth Shenoy with the Podcast Pundits https://podcastpundits.com/
Theme Music: The Chicken https://www.thechicken.net/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>True Crime Author LaDonna Humphrey Targets Ex-Boyfriend in Melissa Witt Killing, According to Recordings</p><p>LaDonna Humphrey is accused of relentlessly pursuing Daniel Watson as a suspect in the unsolved murder of Melissa Witt. Watson, who has consistently maintained his innocence, claims he is being unfairly targeted by Humphrey, who is alleged to be driven by personal and financial motives. </p><p>Later in the episode, Julie Murray, whose sister Maura Murray disappeared in 2004, also had a contentious experience with Humphrey. Despite initial cooperation, Murray's family became wary of Humphrey's motives, leading to accusations of fabricated evidence and misrepresentation.</p><p>Follow Us:</p><p>    Twitter: @pretendpod</p><p>    Instagram: @pretendpodcast</p><p>    Facebook: Pretend Podcast</p><p>For more information and updates on Maura Murray's case, visit <a href="https://mauramurraymissing.org">mauramurraymissing.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>Today's episode was written and produced by Javier Leiva.</p><p>Producer: Alison Byrne </p><p>Editor: Puneeth Shenoy with the Podcast Pundits https://podcastpundits.com/</p><p>Theme Music: The Chicken https://www.thechicken.net/</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2639</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1804: Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 4</title>
      <description>Old Flames Reignited: The Mysterious Return of LaDonna Humphrey in Allen Arson Case
LaDonna Humphrey, with a history marked by harassment allegations, emerges from the shadows 13 years later to entangle herself in the arson investigation of her former boss and preacher, Jon Allen. As the flames of the past reignite, investigators uncover a convoluted story of manipulation, embezzlement, and vindictiveness. Why has LaDonna returned after all these years to discredit the Allens, and what does this mean for the longstanding accusations against her? This episode revisits one of her earliest cases of alleged deceit and retribution.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 4</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Old Flames Reignited: The Mysterious Return of LaDonna Humphrey in Allen Arson Case
LaDonna Humphrey, with a history marked by harassment allegations, emerges from the shadows 13 years later to entangle herself in the arson investigation of her former boss and preacher, Jon Allen. As the flames of the past reignite, investigators uncover a convoluted story of manipulation, embezzlement, and vindictiveness. Why has LaDonna returned after all these years to discredit the Allens, and what does this mean for the longstanding accusations against her? This episode revisits one of her earliest cases of alleged deceit and retribution.
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        <![CDATA[<h3>Old Flames Reignited: The Mysterious Return of LaDonna Humphrey in Allen Arson Case</h3><p>LaDonna Humphrey, with a history marked by harassment allegations, emerges from the shadows 13 years later to entangle herself in the arson investigation of her former boss and preacher, Jon Allen. As the flames of the past reignite, investigators uncover a convoluted story of manipulation, embezzlement, and vindictiveness. Why has LaDonna returned after all these years to discredit the Allens, and what does this mean for the longstanding accusations against her? This episode revisits one of her earliest cases of alleged deceit and retribution.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1750</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1803: Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 3</title>
      <description>In part 3 of Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey, we explore the intense battle between Anthony Christopher and LaDonna. Anthony, LaDonna's former boss, shares his story of harassment, alleging LaDonna's relentless efforts to destroy his life and career. From sending spoof emails to unauthorized background checks, LaDonna's actions led to a legal showdown that landed her in jail for destroying evidence and contempt of court and awarded Anthony a multimillion-dollar judgment. 
Highlights:
    [00:00:00] Anthony Christopher introduces his experience of feeling isolated as LaDonna's victim and discovering other victims.
    [00:02:00] Patti Rush speaks about finding empowerment after realizing she wasn't alone in being deceived by LaDonna.
    [00:03:00] Anthony details the start of his professional relationship with LaDonna and her swift dismissal from Absolute Pediatrics.
    [00:07:00] Nae Heintz discusses LaDonna's unauthorized background checks on colleagues.
    [00:15:00] Anthony recounts the beginning of the harassment and the steps he took to address it, including filing a lawsuit.
    [00:25:00] LaDonna admits to forwarding intimidating text messages under police questioning.
    [00:30:00] The judge finds LaDonna in contempt of court for evidence spoliation and orders her to serve jail time.
    [00:32:00] Anthony's attorney uncovers key phone records that contradict LaDonna's claims about her phone being stolen.
    [00:36:00] LaDonna's damaging actions lead to a $3.5 million judgment in Anthony's favor.
    [00:38:00] The broader impact of LaDonna's actions on other victims and the ongoing legal repercussions.
Part 4 is in the works. Please be patient as my team and I work through these next few episodes. 
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      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 3</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>In part 3 of Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey, we explore the intense battle between Anthony Christopher and LaDonna. Anthony, LaDonna's former boss, shares his story of harassment, alleging LaDonna's relentless efforts to destroy his life and career. From sending spoof emails to unauthorized background checks, LaDonna's actions led to a legal showdown that landed her in jail for destroying evidence and contempt of court and awarded Anthony a multimillion-dollar judgment. 
Highlights:
    [00:00:00] Anthony Christopher introduces his experience of feeling isolated as LaDonna's victim and discovering other victims.
    [00:02:00] Patti Rush speaks about finding empowerment after realizing she wasn't alone in being deceived by LaDonna.
    [00:03:00] Anthony details the start of his professional relationship with LaDonna and her swift dismissal from Absolute Pediatrics.
    [00:07:00] Nae Heintz discusses LaDonna's unauthorized background checks on colleagues.
    [00:15:00] Anthony recounts the beginning of the harassment and the steps he took to address it, including filing a lawsuit.
    [00:25:00] LaDonna admits to forwarding intimidating text messages under police questioning.
    [00:30:00] The judge finds LaDonna in contempt of court for evidence spoliation and orders her to serve jail time.
    [00:32:00] Anthony's attorney uncovers key phone records that contradict LaDonna's claims about her phone being stolen.
    [00:36:00] LaDonna's damaging actions lead to a $3.5 million judgment in Anthony's favor.
    [00:38:00] The broader impact of LaDonna's actions on other victims and the ongoing legal repercussions.
Part 4 is in the works. Please be patient as my team and I work through these next few episodes. 
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        <![CDATA[<p>In part 3 of Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey, we explore the intense battle between Anthony Christopher and LaDonna. Anthony, LaDonna's former boss, shares his story of harassment, alleging LaDonna's relentless efforts to destroy his life and career. From sending spoof emails to unauthorized background checks, LaDonna's actions led to a legal showdown that landed her in jail for destroying evidence and contempt of court and awarded Anthony a multimillion-dollar judgment. </p><p>Highlights:</p><p>    [00:00:00] Anthony Christopher introduces his experience of feeling isolated as LaDonna's victim and discovering other victims.</p><p>    [00:02:00] Patti Rush speaks about finding empowerment after realizing she wasn't alone in being deceived by LaDonna.</p><p>    [00:03:00] Anthony details the start of his professional relationship with LaDonna and her swift dismissal from Absolute Pediatrics.</p><p>    [00:07:00] Nae Heintz discusses LaDonna's unauthorized background checks on colleagues.</p><p>    [00:15:00] Anthony recounts the beginning of the harassment and the steps he took to address it, including filing a lawsuit.</p><p>    [00:25:00] LaDonna admits to forwarding intimidating text messages under police questioning.</p><p>    [00:30:00] The judge finds LaDonna in contempt of court for evidence spoliation and orders her to serve jail time.</p><p>    [00:32:00] Anthony's attorney uncovers key phone records that contradict LaDonna's claims about her phone being stolen.</p><p>    [00:36:00] LaDonna's damaging actions lead to a $3.5 million judgment in Anthony's favor.</p><p>    [00:38:00] The broader impact of LaDonna's actions on other victims and the ongoing legal repercussions.</p><p>Part 4 is in the works. Please be patient as my team and I work through these next few episodes. </p><p>Follow Us:</p><p>    Twitter: @pretendpod</p><p>    Instagram: @pretendpodcast</p><p>    Facebook: Pretend Podcast</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2996</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1802: Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 2</title>
      <description>In this episode, we explore the troubling allegations against LaDonna Humphrey surrounding the Melissa Witt case. Crime victim advocate Patti Rush shares her story, claiming that Humphrey, once seen as an ally, was actually behind years of harassment and deceit. From stolen evidence to questionable motives, we peel back the layers on a complicated figure.
Patti Rush, a dedicated crime victim advocate, shares her experiences and evidence, suggesting that Humphrey, who was once seen as a supportive ally, may have been orchestrating years of harassment and deceit. We'll discuss stolen evidence, questionable motives, and the broader implications for the true crime community.
Highlights:

[00:01:00] Alicia Lockhart's story of being tormented by "Fetish Master" and the shocking discovery that it might have been LaDonna Humphrey.

[00:04:00] Introduction of Patti Rush, her work with REVAMP, and her connection to the Melissa Witt case.

[00:08:00] Patti’s account of LaDonna's unusual access to the Melissa Witt case files and evidence.

[00:13:00] The story of the mishandling evidence and crime scene video posted online.

[00:16:00] Details of the harassment Patti faced after reporting the video to the police.

[00:20:00] Allegations of LaDonna’s desire for fame and how it influenced her actions.

[00:26:00] Discussion of Charles Ray Vines, a possible suspect in the Melissa Witt case, and why LaDonna ruled him out.

[00:31:00] Insights into LaDonna’s new suspect and ongoing investigations.

Call to Action: The story is far from over. Don’t miss out on the next part of this series. Listen to part three now on Patreon or PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast.
Links:

Patreon

PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast

Follow Us:

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      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode, we explore the troubling allegations against LaDonna Humphrey surrounding the Melissa Witt case. Crime victim advocate Patti Rush shares her story, claiming that Humphrey, once seen as an ally, was actually behind years of harassment and deceit. From stolen evidence to questionable motives, we peel back the layers on a complicated figure.
Patti Rush, a dedicated crime victim advocate, shares her experiences and evidence, suggesting that Humphrey, who was once seen as a supportive ally, may have been orchestrating years of harassment and deceit. We'll discuss stolen evidence, questionable motives, and the broader implications for the true crime community.
Highlights:

[00:01:00] Alicia Lockhart's story of being tormented by "Fetish Master" and the shocking discovery that it might have been LaDonna Humphrey.

[00:04:00] Introduction of Patti Rush, her work with REVAMP, and her connection to the Melissa Witt case.

[00:08:00] Patti’s account of LaDonna's unusual access to the Melissa Witt case files and evidence.

[00:13:00] The story of the mishandling evidence and crime scene video posted online.

[00:16:00] Details of the harassment Patti faced after reporting the video to the police.

[00:20:00] Allegations of LaDonna’s desire for fame and how it influenced her actions.

[00:26:00] Discussion of Charles Ray Vines, a possible suspect in the Melissa Witt case, and why LaDonna ruled him out.

[00:31:00] Insights into LaDonna’s new suspect and ongoing investigations.

Call to Action: The story is far from over. Don’t miss out on the next part of this series. Listen to part three now on Patreon or PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast.
Links:

Patreon

PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast

Follow Us:

Twitter: @pretendpod


Instagram: @pretendpodcast


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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we explore the troubling allegations against LaDonna Humphrey surrounding the Melissa Witt case. Crime victim advocate Patti Rush shares her story, claiming that Humphrey, once seen as an ally, was actually behind years of harassment and deceit. From stolen evidence to questionable motives, we peel back the layers on a complicated figure.</p><p>Patti Rush, a dedicated crime victim advocate, shares her experiences and evidence, suggesting that Humphrey, who was once seen as a supportive ally, may have been orchestrating years of harassment and deceit. We'll discuss stolen evidence, questionable motives, and the broader implications for the true crime community.</p><p><strong>Highlights:</strong></p><ul>
<li>[00:01:00] Alicia Lockhart's story of being tormented by "Fetish Master" and the shocking discovery that it might have been LaDonna Humphrey.</li>
<li>[00:04:00] Introduction of Patti Rush, her work with REVAMP, and her connection to the Melissa Witt case.</li>
<li>[00:08:00] Patti’s account of LaDonna's unusual access to the Melissa Witt case files and evidence.</li>
<li>[00:13:00] The story of the mishandling evidence and crime scene video posted online.</li>
<li>[00:16:00] Details of the harassment Patti faced after reporting the video to the police.</li>
<li>[00:20:00] Allegations of LaDonna’s desire for fame and how it influenced her actions.</li>
<li>[00:26:00] Discussion of Charles Ray Vines, a possible suspect in the Melissa Witt case, and why LaDonna ruled him out.</li>
<li>[00:31:00] Insights into LaDonna’s new suspect and ongoing investigations.</li>
</ul><p><strong>Call to Action:</strong> The story is far from over. Don’t miss out on the next part of this series. Listen to part three now on Patreon or PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast.</p><p><strong>Links:</strong></p><ul>
<li><a href="https://www.patreon.com">Patreon</a></li>
<li><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend-stories-about-real-people-pretending-to-be-someone-else/id1244674206">PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</a></li>
</ul><p><strong>Follow Us:</strong></p><ul>
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      <itunes:duration>2242</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1801: Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 1</title>
      <description>LaDonna Humphrey. Remember that name because she is central to this story. I've tried to sum up this tale quickly, but every time I attempt an elevator pitch, I fail. When friends ask me what this new series is about, I'm at a loss for words. It's impossible to explain in just a few minutes.
I'm about to retell the story the way I learned it: completely out of order. By the end, you'll need a suspect board like the ones in the movies. I've conducted over 20 interviews and counting, and you're going to hear some far-fetched allegations from many different people—strangers who share one common thread: they've all crossed paths with LaDonna Humphrey.
There's a lot of he said, she said in this story, and I'll do my best to prove or disprove each claim. This series is going to be a long one, unfolding in real-time as you listen. By the end, I hope I've done enough for you to make up your own mind and understand why so many people are afraid of LaDonna Humphrey.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Jun 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>LaDonna Humphrey. Remember that name because she is central to this story. I've tried to sum up this tale quickly, but every time I attempt an elevator pitch, I fail. When friends ask me what this new series is about, I'm at a loss for words. It's impossible to explain in just a few minutes.
I'm about to retell the story the way I learned it: completely out of order. By the end, you'll need a suspect board like the ones in the movies. I've conducted over 20 interviews and counting, and you're going to hear some far-fetched allegations from many different people—strangers who share one common thread: they've all crossed paths with LaDonna Humphrey.
There's a lot of he said, she said in this story, and I'll do my best to prove or disprove each claim. This series is going to be a long one, unfolding in real-time as you listen. By the end, I hope I've done enough for you to make up your own mind and understand why so many people are afraid of LaDonna Humphrey.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>LaDonna Humphrey. Remember that name because she is central to this story. I've tried to sum up this tale quickly, but every time I attempt an elevator pitch, I fail. When friends ask me what this new series is about, I'm at a loss for words. It's impossible to explain in just a few minutes.</p><p>I'm about to retell the story the way I learned it: completely out of order. By the end, you'll need a suspect board like the ones in the movies. I've conducted over 20 interviews and counting, and you're going to hear some far-fetched allegations from many different people—strangers who share one common thread: they've all crossed paths with LaDonna Humphrey.</p><p>There's a lot of he said, she said in this story, and I'll do my best to prove or disprove each claim. This series is going to be a long one, unfolding in real-time as you listen. By the end, I hope I've done enough for you to make up your own mind and understand why so many people are afraid of LaDonna Humphrey.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>TRAILER: Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey</title>
      <description>LaDonna Humphrey, a respected true crime author and podcaster, has built a strong reputation through her detailed investigations. However, beneath her acclaimed public image lies a troubling undercurrent of allegations and dark secrets. As former associates, friends, and family come forward with disturbing claims. These people have never spoken out... until now. 

The question arises: Who's really afraid of LaDonna Humphrey?
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      <pubDate>Fri, 31 May 2024 21:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Who's Afraid of LaDonna Humphrey </itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>18</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>LaDonna Humphrey, a respected true crime author and podcaster, has built a strong reputation through her detailed investigations. However, beneath her acclaimed public image lies a troubling undercurrent of allegations and dark secrets. As former associates, friends, and family come forward with disturbing claims. These people have never spoken out... until now. 

The question arises: Who's really afraid of LaDonna Humphrey?
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>LaDonna Humphrey, a respected true crime author and podcaster, has built a strong reputation through her detailed investigations. However, beneath her acclaimed public image lies a troubling undercurrent of allegations and dark secrets. As former associates, friends, and family come forward with disturbing claims. These people have never spoken out... until now. </p><p><br></p><p>The question arises: Who's really afraid of LaDonna Humphrey?</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>664</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1705: Hockey Dad Poses as Delta Force Agent to Scam Parents part 2</title>
      <description>The strange and intricate hoax crafted by Saint Jovite "Kota" Youngblood, a hockey dad who posed as a Delta Force agent, unravels in court.  An FBI agent peels back each layer of Youngblood's elaborate scheme that duped dozens of families.

Get early and ad-free episodes:
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio
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      <pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2024 11:41:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Hockey Dad Poses as Delta Force Agent to Scam Parents part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>17</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>The strange and intricate hoax crafted by Saint Jovite "Kota" Youngblood, a hockey dad who posed as a Delta Force agent, unravels in court.  An FBI agent peels back each layer of Youngblood's elaborate scheme that duped dozens of families.

Get early and ad-free episodes:
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio
PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985
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        <![CDATA[<p>The strange and intricate hoax crafted by Saint Jovite "Kota" Youngblood, a hockey dad who posed as a Delta Force agent, unravels in court.  An FBI agent peels back each layer of Youngblood's elaborate scheme that duped dozens of families.</p><p><br></p><p><strong><u>Get early and ad-free episodes:</u></strong></p><p><strong>Patreon:</strong> https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio</p><p><strong>PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast:</strong> https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2595</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1704: Hockey Dad Poses as Delta Force Agent to Scam Parents part 1</title>
      <description>Saint Jovite Youngblood posed as a Delta Force agent to swindle the families of his son’s hockey team.
Today's episode revolves around two victims: Eric Perardi, an Austin-based real estate developer, and Rebecca Kumar, a hockey mom, whose lives were turned upside down by Youngblood’s elaborate scams. Their experiences may sound like something out of a crime thriller, but they show the danger of falling prey to a master manipulator.

Listen to part 2 now:
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio
PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985
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      <pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Hockey Dad Poses as Delta Force Agent to Scam Parents part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>17</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Saint Jovite Youngblood posed as a Delta Force agent to swindle the families of his son’s hockey team.
Today's episode revolves around two victims: Eric Perardi, an Austin-based real estate developer, and Rebecca Kumar, a hockey mom, whose lives were turned upside down by Youngblood’s elaborate scams. Their experiences may sound like something out of a crime thriller, but they show the danger of falling prey to a master manipulator.

Listen to part 2 now:
Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio
PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Saint Jovite Youngblood posed as a Delta Force agent to swindle the families of his son’s hockey team.</p><p>Today's episode revolves around two victims: Eric Perardi, an Austin-based real estate developer, and Rebecca Kumar, a hockey mom, whose lives were turned upside down by Youngblood’s elaborate scams. Their experiences may sound like something out of a crime thriller, but they show the danger of falling prey to a master manipulator.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Listen to part 2 now:</strong></p><p>Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio</p><p>PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2142</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1703: The Doula BREAKING NEWS</title>
      <description>BREAKING NEWS - Kaitlyn Braun is Arrested Again for Duping Doulas in Phony Pregnancy Scam

25-year-old Kaitlyn Braun, who is currently under house arrest for prior offenses involving fraud and harassment against doulas, faces new charges as of Tuesday. This week's charges come after new allegations of once again exploiting the trust of unsuspecting doulas by falsely soliciting support related to pregnancy and childbirth.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2024 13:02:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Doula BREAKING NEWS</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>17</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>BREAKING NEWS - Kaitlyn Braun is Arrested Again for Duping Doulas in Phony Pregnancy Scam

25-year-old Kaitlyn Braun, who is currently under house arrest for prior offenses involving fraud and harassment against doulas, faces new charges as of Tuesday. This week's charges come after new allegations of once again exploiting the trust of unsuspecting doulas by falsely soliciting support related to pregnancy and childbirth.
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>BREAKING NEWS - Kaitlyn Braun is Arrested Again for Duping Doulas in Phony Pregnancy Scam</p><p><br></p><p>25-year-old Kaitlyn Braun, who is currently under house arrest for prior offenses involving fraud and harassment against doulas, faces new charges as of Tuesday. This week's charges come after new allegations of once again exploiting the trust of unsuspecting doulas by falsely soliciting support related to pregnancy and childbirth.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>445</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1702: The Doula part 2</title>
      <description>In the second installment of "The Doula" series, we uncover new dimensions of Kaitlyn Braun’s elaborate pregnancy scams. This episode features a new doula speaking out about her experiences, the story of how Kaitlyn was finally caught, and a revealing interview with a former friend whom Kaitlyn also deceived.

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      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Apr 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Doula part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>17</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In the second installment of "The Doula" series, we uncover new dimensions of Kaitlyn Braun’s elaborate pregnancy scams. This episode features a new doula speaking out about her experiences, the story of how Kaitlyn was finally caught, and a revealing interview with a former friend whom Kaitlyn also deceived.

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the second installment of "The Doula" series, we uncover new dimensions of Kaitlyn Braun’s elaborate pregnancy scams. This episode features a new doula speaking out about her experiences, the story of how Kaitlyn was finally caught, and a revealing interview with a former friend whom Kaitlyn also deceived.</p><p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2302</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1701: The Doula part 1</title>
      <description>Warning: This episode contains graphic discussions of pregnancy loss, sexual violence, and emotional abuse. Listener discretion is advised.
In this episode of "Pretend,"  listen to the chilling tale of Kaitlyn Braun, a woman who orchestrated an elaborate pregnancy hoax, affecting nearly 60 doulas across Ontario. Seanna Hayes, a doula from London, Ontario, provides a firsthand account of her experience with Kaitlyn Braun. The story begins on a stormy night when Seanna is called to assist Kaitlyn, allegedly in labor, only to discover a web of lies, manipulation, and betrayal that spans across multiple doulas and involves a series of fake medical emergencies and hospital visits. 
This episode explores the psychological and emotional impact of Kaitlyn's actions on the doulas, the potential motives behind her behavior, and the aftermath of this bizarre case. 
Stay tuned for Part Two, exclusively on Patreon and Pretend+ on Apple Podcasts, where we continue the conversation with another doula who shares a very different experience with Kaitlyn Braun.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 22 Apr 2024 19:02:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Doula part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>17</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>Warning: This episode contains graphic discussions of pregnancy loss, sexual violence, and emotional abuse. Listener discretion is advised.
In this episode of "Pretend,"  listen to the chilling tale of Kaitlyn Braun, a woman who orchestrated an elaborate pregnancy hoax, affecting nearly 60 doulas across Ontario. Seanna Hayes, a doula from London, Ontario, provides a firsthand account of her experience with Kaitlyn Braun. The story begins on a stormy night when Seanna is called to assist Kaitlyn, allegedly in labor, only to discover a web of lies, manipulation, and betrayal that spans across multiple doulas and involves a series of fake medical emergencies and hospital visits. 
This episode explores the psychological and emotional impact of Kaitlyn's actions on the doulas, the potential motives behind her behavior, and the aftermath of this bizarre case. 
Stay tuned for Part Two, exclusively on Patreon and Pretend+ on Apple Podcasts, where we continue the conversation with another doula who shares a very different experience with Kaitlyn Braun.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong><em>Warning:</em></strong> <em>This episode contains graphic discussions of pregnancy loss, sexual violence, and emotional abuse. Listener discretion is advised.</em></p><p>In this episode of "Pretend,"  listen to the chilling tale of Kaitlyn Braun, a woman who orchestrated an elaborate pregnancy hoax, affecting nearly 60 doulas across Ontario. Seanna Hayes, a doula from London, Ontario, provides a firsthand account of her experience with Kaitlyn Braun. The story begins on a stormy night when Seanna is called to assist Kaitlyn, allegedly in labor, only to discover a web of lies, manipulation, and betrayal that spans across multiple doulas and involves a series of fake medical emergencies and hospital visits. </p><p>This episode explores the psychological and emotional impact of Kaitlyn's actions on the doulas, the potential motives behind her behavior, and the aftermath of this bizarre case. </p><p>Stay tuned for Part Two, exclusively on <a href="https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio">Patreon</a> and <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985">Pretend+</a> on Apple Podcasts, where we continue the conversation with another doula who shares a very different experience with Kaitlyn Braun.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>1671</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>Confessions of a Ponzi Schemer </title>
      <description>This episode offers an unprecedented look into the life of the 'Timepiece Gentleman' Ponzi schemer, Anthony Farrar, whose love for luxury watches spiraled into a deceitful web of lies, culminating in a rare and candid confession.

If you want to hear more wild Ponzi stories, subscribe to The Ponzi Playbook hosted by me, Javier Leiva, and my buddy Neal McTighe. 

SUBSCRIBE: https://t.co/M02YhRa5Iq

_______
Also, listen to Javier's interview on The Film Nuts podcast. 
Subscribe to Film Nuts Podcast on Apple Podcast or Spotify.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Apr 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/804829ec-eab4-11ee-87df-5b9572eb0771/image/3469be6c4909675920e724f7fef5528a.jpeg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>The Timepiece Gentleman (Anthony Farrar) on the Ponzi Playbook</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This episode offers an unprecedented look into the life of the 'Timepiece Gentleman' Ponzi schemer, Anthony Farrar, whose love for luxury watches spiraled into a deceitful web of lies, culminating in a rare and candid confession.

If you want to hear more wild Ponzi stories, subscribe to The Ponzi Playbook hosted by me, Javier Leiva, and my buddy Neal McTighe. 

SUBSCRIBE: https://t.co/M02YhRa5Iq

_______
Also, listen to Javier's interview on The Film Nuts podcast. 
Subscribe to Film Nuts Podcast on Apple Podcast or Spotify.
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        <![CDATA[<p>This episode offers an unprecedented look into the life of the 'Timepiece Gentleman' Ponzi schemer, Anthony Farrar, whose love for luxury watches spiraled into a deceitful web of lies, culminating in a rare and candid confession.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want to hear more wild Ponzi stories, subscribe to The Ponzi Playbook hosted by me, Javier Leiva, and my buddy Neal McTighe. </p><p><br></p><p>SUBSCRIBE: https://t.co/M02YhRa5Iq</p><p><br></p><p>_______</p><p>Also, listen to Javier's interview on <a href="https://www.filmnutspodcast.com/">The Film Nuts </a>podcast. </p><p>Subscribe to Film Nuts Podcast on <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-film-nuts-podcast/id1509543199">Apple Podcast</a> or <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/4ywg3m9B9DjsqTRbSGwWSo?si=UlliU1n4R_uv_7Hi3Qxsmg">Spotify</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2995</itunes:duration>
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      <title>The Treasure Hunter Revisited</title>
      <description>In today's episode, we revisit the captivating story of Seafarer Exploration and its quest to unearth a 300-year-old treasure buried beneath the ocean waves off Florida's coast. Join us as we delve into the tale of Kyle Kennedy, CEO of Seafarer Exploration, and his fateful encounter with Dr. Michael Torres, a man whose promises and credentials were as deep as the ocean itself. What begins as a hopeful journey into the past, seeking lost treasures of a Spanish galleon quickly spirals into a lawsuit and allegations of fraud. This rebroadcast from our previous series shines a light on the treasure hunters, the technology they dream of, and the deception that lurks beneath the surface.

Guest Speakers:

Kyle Kennedy, CEO of Seafarer Exploration

Experts in maritime archaeology and treasure hunting

Legal analysts breaking down the lawsuit against Michael Torres



Listen to the Entire Series:
Don't miss out on the full adventure of treachery, technology, and sunken treasures. Click on the links below to listen to the entire series and explore the mystery surrounding Florida's Treasure Coast.
Part 2: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6S0XjD4QyyXvuFBh1dOyVY?si=c55b75b8eff4478e
Part 3: https://open.spotify.com/episode/19xvUTQQDILhRLrrtiB7Dk?si=df330a9fd2a54c3a
Part 4: https://open.spotify.com/episode/69e2SjjyDLJ3CmbU8mfpvn?si=06e9742270b749d4
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      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Apr 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In today's episode, we revisit the captivating story of Seafarer Exploration and its quest to unearth a 300-year-old treasure buried beneath the ocean waves off Florida's coast. Join us as we delve into the tale of Kyle Kennedy, CEO of Seafarer Exploration, and his fateful encounter with Dr. Michael Torres, a man whose promises and credentials were as deep as the ocean itself. What begins as a hopeful journey into the past, seeking lost treasures of a Spanish galleon quickly spirals into a lawsuit and allegations of fraud. This rebroadcast from our previous series shines a light on the treasure hunters, the technology they dream of, and the deception that lurks beneath the surface.

Guest Speakers:

Kyle Kennedy, CEO of Seafarer Exploration

Experts in maritime archaeology and treasure hunting

Legal analysts breaking down the lawsuit against Michael Torres



Listen to the Entire Series:
Don't miss out on the full adventure of treachery, technology, and sunken treasures. Click on the links below to listen to the entire series and explore the mystery surrounding Florida's Treasure Coast.
Part 2: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6S0XjD4QyyXvuFBh1dOyVY?si=c55b75b8eff4478e
Part 3: https://open.spotify.com/episode/19xvUTQQDILhRLrrtiB7Dk?si=df330a9fd2a54c3a
Part 4: https://open.spotify.com/episode/69e2SjjyDLJ3CmbU8mfpvn?si=06e9742270b749d4
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        <![CDATA[<p>In today's episode, we revisit the captivating story of Seafarer Exploration and its quest to unearth a 300-year-old treasure buried beneath the ocean waves off Florida's coast. Join us as we delve into the tale of Kyle Kennedy, CEO of Seafarer Exploration, and his fateful encounter with Dr. Michael Torres, a man whose promises and credentials were as deep as the ocean itself. What begins as a hopeful journey into the past, seeking lost treasures of a Spanish galleon quickly spirals into a lawsuit and allegations of fraud. This rebroadcast from our previous series shines a light on the treasure hunters, the technology they dream of, and the deception that lurks beneath the surface.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Guest Speakers:</strong></p><ul>
<li>Kyle Kennedy, CEO of Seafarer Exploration</li>
<li>Experts in maritime archaeology and treasure hunting</li>
<li>Legal analysts breaking down the lawsuit against Michael Torres</li>
<li><br></li>
</ul><p><strong>Listen to the Entire Series:</strong></p><p>Don't miss out on the full adventure of treachery, technology, and sunken treasures. Click on the links below to listen to the entire series and explore the mystery surrounding Florida's Treasure Coast.</p><p><strong>Part 2: </strong>https://open.spotify.com/episode/6S0XjD4QyyXvuFBh1dOyVY?si=c55b75b8eff4478e</p><p><strong>Part 3:</strong> https://open.spotify.com/episode/19xvUTQQDILhRLrrtiB7Dk?si=df330a9fd2a54c3a</p><p><strong>Part 4:</strong> https://open.spotify.com/episode/69e2SjjyDLJ3CmbU8mfpvn?si=06e9742270b749d4</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>How to find people who don’t want to be found</title>
      <description>I recently spoke at the Triangle Content Creators Meetup in Raleigh, NC, about using OSINT techniques to locate and research your next guest. OSINT stands for Open Source Intelligence. As a journalist, I've teamed up with brilliant hackers like Mishaal Khan and Michael Bazzell to uncover new information about my subjects. 

In this talk, I explain how Alan Logan and I exposed Frank Abagnale and how Mishaal Khan and I investigated the Stalker case. I thought you might find this interesting. 
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      <pubDate>Tue, 26 Mar 2024 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>How to find people who don’t want to be found</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>I recently spoke at the Triangle Content Creators Meetup in Raleigh, NC, about using OSINT techniques to locate and research your next guest. OSINT stands for Open Source Intelligence. As a journalist, I've teamed up with brilliant hackers like Mishaal Khan and Michael Bazzell to uncover new information about my subjects. 

In this talk, I explain how Alan Logan and I exposed Frank Abagnale and how Mishaal Khan and I investigated the Stalker case. I thought you might find this interesting. 
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        <![CDATA[<p>I recently spoke at the Triangle Content Creators Meetup in Raleigh, NC, about using OSINT techniques to locate and research your next guest. OSINT stands for Open Source Intelligence. As a journalist, I've teamed up with brilliant hackers like Mishaal Khan and Michael Bazzell to uncover new information about my subjects. </p><p><br></p><p>In this talk, I explain how Alan Logan and I exposed Frank Abagnale and how Mishaal Khan and I investigated the Stalker case. I thought you might find this interesting. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1979</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1609: The Truth Experts part 2</title>
      <description>Previously on Pretend, we dived deep into the murky waters of academic fraud. Celebrity behavioral scientist Dan Ariely of Duke University, alongside Francesca Gino from Harvard and other distinguished behavioral scientists, embarked on a series of experiments with a noble aim: to enhance honesty among individuals. 
Their investigation centered on whether positioning an honesty pledge at the top of a form, as opposed to the bottom, would discourage deceit. However, it emerged that two out of the three experiments underpinning the study were marred by fabricated data.
I interviewed Dan Ariely about these troubling allegations, but our conversation was cut short. I assumed that was the last time I would hear from him. Surprisingly, Ariely reached out, proposing a second interview to directly address what he termed as "false accusations" on my podcast. He stipulated, "If you intend to add these false accusations to the podcast, maybe it's best to have another session and get my answers on the record, but I  will ask you to promise me not to edit these. And to give my answers exactly as I present them. If you're up for this,  let's schedule a sum If you're up for this, let's schedule something." And so, I agreed.
You're going to listen to my follow-up interview with Dan Ariely. I will, however, interject here and there to add context. But rest assured, every moment of our 43-minute exchange will be presented. I'll upload the raw, unedited versions of both interviews on Patreon and Pretend Plus, accessible for free. You don't need a subscription to tune in.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Mar 2024 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Truth Experts part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>Previously on Pretend, we dived deep into the murky waters of academic fraud. Celebrity behavioral scientist Dan Ariely of Duke University, alongside Francesca Gino from Harvard and other distinguished behavioral scientists, embarked on a series of experiments with a noble aim: to enhance honesty among individuals. 
Their investigation centered on whether positioning an honesty pledge at the top of a form, as opposed to the bottom, would discourage deceit. However, it emerged that two out of the three experiments underpinning the study were marred by fabricated data.
I interviewed Dan Ariely about these troubling allegations, but our conversation was cut short. I assumed that was the last time I would hear from him. Surprisingly, Ariely reached out, proposing a second interview to directly address what he termed as "false accusations" on my podcast. He stipulated, "If you intend to add these false accusations to the podcast, maybe it's best to have another session and get my answers on the record, but I  will ask you to promise me not to edit these. And to give my answers exactly as I present them. If you're up for this,  let's schedule a sum If you're up for this, let's schedule something." And so, I agreed.
You're going to listen to my follow-up interview with Dan Ariely. I will, however, interject here and there to add context. But rest assured, every moment of our 43-minute exchange will be presented. I'll upload the raw, unedited versions of both interviews on Patreon and Pretend Plus, accessible for free. You don't need a subscription to tune in.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Previously on Pretend, we dived deep into the murky waters of academic fraud. Celebrity behavioral scientist Dan Ariely of Duke University, alongside Francesca Gino from Harvard and other distinguished behavioral scientists, embarked on a series of experiments with a noble aim: to enhance honesty among individuals. </p><p>Their investigation centered on whether positioning an honesty pledge at the top of a form, as opposed to the bottom, would discourage deceit. However, it emerged that two out of the three experiments underpinning the study were marred by fabricated data.</p><p>I interviewed Dan Ariely about these troubling allegations, but our conversation was cut short. I assumed that was the last time I would hear from him. Surprisingly, Ariely reached out, proposing a second interview to directly address what he termed as "false accusations" on my podcast. He stipulated, "If you intend to add these false accusations to the podcast, maybe it's best to have another session and get my answers on the record, but I  will ask you to promise me not to edit these. And to give my answers exactly as I present them. If you're up for this,  let's schedule a sum If you're up for this, let's schedule something." And so, I agreed.</p><p>You're going to listen to my follow-up interview with Dan Ariely. I will, however, interject here and there to add context. But rest assured, every moment of our 43-minute exchange will be presented. I'll upload the raw, unedited versions of both interviews on Patreon and Pretend Plus, accessible for free. You don't need a subscription to tune in.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3360</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1608: The Truth Experts part 1</title>
      <description>Everything we believe about what drives us to be honest might be a lie.

A scandal rocks the behavioral science world, casting shadows over renowned researcher Dan Ariely and the integrity of academic research on honesty.

We all tell lies—it's a human thing. But can we modify behaviors to coax people into doing the right thing? Let's delve into what the research indicates. After all, facts and numbers don't lie, and academic researchers shouldn't lie either, right? But what happens when these so-called truth experts, the Ivy League researchers who literally wrote the book on dishonesty, are accused of lying and manipulating data?
Who fact-checks the truth-tellers? 
Science stands as our final bastion of objectivity. However, the individuals behind the studies we're discussing are people. And people make mistakes. But what happens when errors are set aside and data is deliberately fabricated to create an illusion of truth? The consequences could be dire, undermining our trust in everything we hear or read. 
Today's story recaps a major scandal in behavioral science, one that's been spotlighted by The New Yorker, The Atlantic, NPR, and podcasts like Freakonomics and Planet Money. Each outlet brought attention to different aspects of the story, but they all missed one critical voice—Dan Ariely, a professor of psychology and behavioral economics at Duke University. In a rare interview, I confronted Ariely about the studies in question, and to my surprise, he answered all of my questions.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2024 13:35:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Truth Experts part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>Everything we believe about what drives us to be honest might be a lie.

A scandal rocks the behavioral science world, casting shadows over renowned researcher Dan Ariely and the integrity of academic research on honesty.

We all tell lies—it's a human thing. But can we modify behaviors to coax people into doing the right thing? Let's delve into what the research indicates. After all, facts and numbers don't lie, and academic researchers shouldn't lie either, right? But what happens when these so-called truth experts, the Ivy League researchers who literally wrote the book on dishonesty, are accused of lying and manipulating data?
Who fact-checks the truth-tellers? 
Science stands as our final bastion of objectivity. However, the individuals behind the studies we're discussing are people. And people make mistakes. But what happens when errors are set aside and data is deliberately fabricated to create an illusion of truth? The consequences could be dire, undermining our trust in everything we hear or read. 
Today's story recaps a major scandal in behavioral science, one that's been spotlighted by The New Yorker, The Atlantic, NPR, and podcasts like Freakonomics and Planet Money. Each outlet brought attention to different aspects of the story, but they all missed one critical voice—Dan Ariely, a professor of psychology and behavioral economics at Duke University. In a rare interview, I confronted Ariely about the studies in question, and to my surprise, he answered all of my questions.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<h2>Everything we believe about what drives us to be honest might be a lie.</h2><p><br></p><h3><strong>A scandal rocks the behavioral science world, casting shadows over renowned researcher Dan Ariely and the integrity of academic research on honesty.</strong></h3><p><br></p><p>We all tell lies—it's a human thing. But can we modify behaviors to coax people into doing the right thing? Let's delve into what the research indicates. After all, facts and numbers don't lie, and academic researchers shouldn't lie either, right? But what happens when these so-called truth experts, the Ivy League researchers who literally wrote the book on dishonesty, are accused of lying and manipulating data?</p><h3>Who fact-checks the truth-tellers? </h3><p>Science stands as our final bastion of objectivity. However, the individuals behind the studies we're discussing are people. And people make mistakes. But what happens when errors are set aside and data is deliberately fabricated to create an illusion of truth? The consequences could be dire, undermining our trust in everything we hear or read. </p><p>Today's story recaps a major scandal in behavioral science, one that's been spotlighted by The New Yorker, The Atlantic, NPR, and podcasts like Freakonomics and Planet Money. Each outlet brought attention to different aspects of the story, but they all missed one critical voice—Dan Ariely, a professor of psychology and behavioral economics at Duke University. In a rare interview, I confronted Ariely about the studies in question, and to my surprise, he answered all of my questions.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2715</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1607: The Fake Lawyer</title>
      <description>I discovered a little-known realm of con artists within the legal system. I found story after story of people impersonating attorneys, prosecutors, and even judges. One woman hacked into the court system and dropped the charges against her. 

Get early and ad-free episodes:
PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio
PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985
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      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2024 17:11:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Fake Lawyer</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>I discovered a little-known realm of con artists within the legal system. I found story after story of people impersonating attorneys, prosecutors, and even judges. One woman hacked into the court system and dropped the charges against her. 

Get early and ad-free episodes:
PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio
PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>I discovered a little-known realm of con artists within the legal system. I found story after story of people impersonating attorneys, prosecutors, and even judges. One woman hacked into the court system and dropped the charges against her. </p><p><br></p><p>Get early and ad-free episodes:</p><p>PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio</p><p>PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2094</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1606: The Grave Detector (Junk Science Bonus)</title>
      <description>Think all forensic evidence is foolproof? You'd be surprised. In our latest bonus episode of PRETEND, we're taking a deep dive into the murky world of forensic science with M. Chris Fabricant from the Innocence Project. We're talking about how some methods, like bite mark analysis and cadaver dogs, might not be as reliable as you’d think. It's a thought-provoking look at the challenges of separating solid science from shaky beliefs in our legal system. 

Junk Science and the American Criminal Justice System by M. Chris Fabricant: https://www.amazon.com/Science-American-Criminal-Justice-System/dp/1636140300
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      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2024 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Grave Detector (Junk Science Bonus)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Think all forensic evidence is foolproof? You'd be surprised. In our latest bonus episode of PRETEND, we're taking a deep dive into the murky world of forensic science with M. Chris Fabricant from the Innocence Project. We're talking about how some methods, like bite mark analysis and cadaver dogs, might not be as reliable as you’d think. It's a thought-provoking look at the challenges of separating solid science from shaky beliefs in our legal system. 

Junk Science and the American Criminal Justice System by M. Chris Fabricant: https://www.amazon.com/Science-American-Criminal-Justice-System/dp/1636140300
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        <![CDATA[<p>Think all forensic evidence is foolproof? You'd be surprised. In our latest bonus episode of PRETEND, we're taking a deep dive into the murky world of forensic science with M. Chris Fabricant from the Innocence Project. We're talking about how some methods, like bite mark analysis and cadaver dogs, might not be as reliable as you’d think. It's a thought-provoking look at the challenges of separating solid science from shaky beliefs in our legal system. </p><p><br></p><p>Junk Science and the American Criminal Justice System by M. Chris Fabricant: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-American-Criminal-Justice-System/dp/1636140300">https://www.amazon.com/Science-American-Criminal-Justice-System/dp/1636140300</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1385</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1605: The Stalker - Case Closed</title>
      <description>Breaking News on the Stalker case. 
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      <pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2024 21:52:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stalker - Case Closed</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Breaking News on the Stalker case. 
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        <![CDATA[<p>Breaking News on the Stalker case. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>554</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1604: The Grave Detector part 3</title>
      <description>Dr. Arpad Vass touts his Quantum Oscillator, a contraption made of plywood and PVC pipe, as a revolutionary tool capable of locating missing persons' remains with 92% accuracy from up to 60 miles away, using just DNA from fingernail clippings. 

In a desperate attempt to solve the cold case of Brandy Hall, a Florida firefighter gone missing, Hall's family turned to Dr. Vass and his device. Guided by the oscillator's dubious promise, they believed Brandy could be buried in a specific wooded area. In a fit of hope and despair, Brandy's mother resorted to using a makeshift shovel to dig for her daughter, embodying the heart-wrenching grip of grief and the seductive, yet misleading, appeal of pseudoscience. Ultimately, the search yielded nothing but a painful journey back to square one.

In today's episode, we discuss the science behind the Quantum Oscillator. 

Watch the video of Dr. Vass and the Quantum Oscillator:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3DTrzYM-8N/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&amp;igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== 
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7332889990084578590?is_from_webapp=1&amp;sender_device=pc&amp;web_id=7267660576023873067 
YouTube: https://youtube.com/shorts/ub2kdJZ0JNQ?feature=share 
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      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2024 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Grave Detector part 3</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Dr. Arpad Vass touts his Quantum Oscillator, a contraption made of plywood and PVC pipe, as a revolutionary tool capable of locating missing persons' remains with 92% accuracy from up to 60 miles away, using just DNA from fingernail clippings. 

In a desperate attempt to solve the cold case of Brandy Hall, a Florida firefighter gone missing, Hall's family turned to Dr. Vass and his device. Guided by the oscillator's dubious promise, they believed Brandy could be buried in a specific wooded area. In a fit of hope and despair, Brandy's mother resorted to using a makeshift shovel to dig for her daughter, embodying the heart-wrenching grip of grief and the seductive, yet misleading, appeal of pseudoscience. Ultimately, the search yielded nothing but a painful journey back to square one.

In today's episode, we discuss the science behind the Quantum Oscillator. 

Watch the video of Dr. Vass and the Quantum Oscillator:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3DTrzYM-8N/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&amp;igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== 
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7332889990084578590?is_from_webapp=1&amp;sender_device=pc&amp;web_id=7267660576023873067 
YouTube: https://youtube.com/shorts/ub2kdJZ0JNQ?feature=share 
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        <![CDATA[<p>Dr. Arpad Vass touts his Quantum Oscillator, a contraption made of plywood and PVC pipe, as a revolutionary tool capable of locating missing persons' remains with 92% accuracy from up to 60 miles away, using just DNA from fingernail clippings. </p><p><br></p><p>In a desperate attempt to solve the cold case of Brandy Hall, a Florida firefighter gone missing, Hall's family turned to Dr. Vass and his device. Guided by the oscillator's dubious promise, they believed Brandy could be buried in a specific wooded area. In a fit of hope and despair, Brandy's mother resorted to using a makeshift shovel to dig for her daughter, embodying the heart-wrenching grip of grief and the seductive, yet misleading, appeal of pseudoscience. Ultimately, the search yielded nothing but a painful journey back to square one.</p><p><br></p><p>In today's episode, we discuss the science behind the Quantum Oscillator. </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Watch the video of Dr. Vass and the Quantum Oscillator:</strong></p><p><strong>Instagram:</strong> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3DTrzYM-8N/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&amp;igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==">https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3DTrzYM-8N/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&amp;igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==</a> </p><p><strong>TikTok:</strong> <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7332889990084578590?is_from_webapp=1&amp;sender_device=pc&amp;web_id=7267660576023873067">https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7332889990084578590?is_from_webapp=1&amp;sender_device=pc&amp;web_id=7267660576023873067</a> </p><p><strong>YouTube:</strong> <a href="https://youtube.com/shorts/ub2kdJZ0JNQ?feature=share">https://youtube.com/shorts/ub2kdJZ0JNQ?feature=share</a> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2345</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1603: The Grave Detector part 2</title>
      <description>In today’s episode of Pretend, we're zeroing in on Dr. Arpad Vass's invention called the Quantum Oscillator—a device straight out of a sci-fi plot with the audacious promise of finding the lost with just a sliver of DNA. Imagine a gadget claiming to pinpoint your long-gone ancestors' graves or track down missing persons with a flicker of electromagnetic waves. 

Dr. Vass claims that with a bit of your DNA, his Quantum Oscillator could lead him to grave sites with 92% accuracy from a distance as far as 60 miles. Sounds miraculous, right? But hold your horses—does this invention hold up under the scrutiny of science, or is it veering into the realm of pseudoscience?
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      <pubDate>Tue, 06 Feb 2024 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Grave Detector part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In today’s episode of Pretend, we're zeroing in on Dr. Arpad Vass's invention called the Quantum Oscillator—a device straight out of a sci-fi plot with the audacious promise of finding the lost with just a sliver of DNA. Imagine a gadget claiming to pinpoint your long-gone ancestors' graves or track down missing persons with a flicker of electromagnetic waves. 

Dr. Vass claims that with a bit of your DNA, his Quantum Oscillator could lead him to grave sites with 92% accuracy from a distance as far as 60 miles. Sounds miraculous, right? But hold your horses—does this invention hold up under the scrutiny of science, or is it veering into the realm of pseudoscience?
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        <![CDATA[<p>In today’s episode of Pretend, we're zeroing in on Dr. Arpad Vass's invention called the Quantum Oscillator—a device straight out of a sci-fi plot with the audacious promise of finding the lost with just a sliver of DNA. Imagine a gadget claiming to pinpoint your long-gone ancestors' graves or track down missing persons with a flicker of electromagnetic waves. </p><p><br></p><p>Dr. Vass claims that with a bit of your DNA, his Quantum Oscillator could lead him to grave sites with 92% accuracy from a distance as far as 60 miles. Sounds miraculous, right? But hold your horses—does this invention hold up under the scrutiny of science, or is it veering into the realm of pseudoscience?</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2063</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1602: The Grave Detector part 1</title>
      <description>In "The Grave Detector," we delve into the enigmatic practice of using dowsing rods with a focus on the work of Dr. Arpard Vass, a forensic anthropologist renowned for his innovative methods in locating unmarked graves and human remains. The episode explores the traditional and modern uses of dowsing rods, often associated with finding water, treasures, and possibly ghosts. But most alarming of all, dowsing rods play a controversial role in police investigations and legal proceedings. 

M. Chris Fabricant, Junk Science - https://a.co/d/cu4tn9m

Michael Hadsell, Peace River K9 Search and Rescue (PRSAR) - https://www.prsar.org/

Dr. Arpad Vass- http://forensicrecoveryservices.org/
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      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Jan 2024 15:21:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Grave Detector part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In "The Grave Detector," we delve into the enigmatic practice of using dowsing rods with a focus on the work of Dr. Arpard Vass, a forensic anthropologist renowned for his innovative methods in locating unmarked graves and human remains. The episode explores the traditional and modern uses of dowsing rods, often associated with finding water, treasures, and possibly ghosts. But most alarming of all, dowsing rods play a controversial role in police investigations and legal proceedings. 

M. Chris Fabricant, Junk Science - https://a.co/d/cu4tn9m

Michael Hadsell, Peace River K9 Search and Rescue (PRSAR) - https://www.prsar.org/

Dr. Arpad Vass- http://forensicrecoveryservices.org/
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        <![CDATA[<p>In "The Grave Detector," we delve into the enigmatic practice of using dowsing rods with a focus on the work of Dr. Arpard Vass, a forensic anthropologist renowned for his innovative methods in locating unmarked graves and human remains. The episode explores the traditional and modern uses of dowsing rods, often associated with finding water, treasures, and possibly ghosts. But most alarming of all, dowsing rods play a controversial role in police investigations and legal proceedings. </p><p><br></p><p><strong>M. Chris Fabricant, Junk Science - </strong><a href="https://a.co/d/cu4tn9m">https://a.co/d/cu4tn9m</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Michael Hadsell, Peace River K9 Search and Rescue (PRSAR) </strong>- <a href="https://www.prsar.org/">https://www.prsar.org/</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Dr. Arpad Vass</strong>- <a href="http://forensicrecoveryservices.org/">http://forensicrecoveryservices.org/</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2369</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1601: The High School Hoax (Shelby Hewitt)</title>
      <description>In "The High School Hoax," the latest episode of "PRETEND," we explore the true story of Shelby Hewitt, a 32-year-old woman who enrolled as a high school student in Boston.

What compels an adult to return to high school? How did this go unnoticed? Janelle, a 16-year-old classmate and friend of Shelby's, offers a unique window into this bizarre ruse.

See video of Shelby Hewitt:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/C02ngXjsUh1/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7312640020207242538
YouTube: https://youtube.com/shorts/xG-y0td3MkI?feature=share
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      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2024 13:09:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The High School Hoax (Shelby Hewitt)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>16</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In "The High School Hoax," the latest episode of "PRETEND," we explore the true story of Shelby Hewitt, a 32-year-old woman who enrolled as a high school student in Boston.

What compels an adult to return to high school? How did this go unnoticed? Janelle, a 16-year-old classmate and friend of Shelby's, offers a unique window into this bizarre ruse.

See video of Shelby Hewitt:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/p/C02ngXjsUh1/
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7312640020207242538
YouTube: https://youtube.com/shorts/xG-y0td3MkI?feature=share
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        <![CDATA[<p>In "The High School Hoax," the latest episode of "PRETEND," we explore the true story of Shelby Hewitt, a 32-year-old woman who enrolled as a high school student in Boston.</p><p><br></p><p>What compels an adult to return to high school? How did this go unnoticed? Janelle, a 16-year-old classmate and friend of Shelby's, offers a unique window into this bizarre ruse.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>See video of Shelby Hewitt:</strong></p><p>Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C02ngXjsUh1/">https://www.instagram.com/p/C02ngXjsUh1/</a></p><p>TikTok: <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7312640020207242538">https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7312640020207242538</a></p><p>YouTube: <a href="https://youtube.com/shorts/xG-y0td3MkI?feature=share">https://youtube.com/shorts/xG-y0td3MkI?feature=share</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1292</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1510: How to Disappear Revisited</title>
      <description>Dartanyon A. Williams (DAW) stole his parents’ identities at the age of 15.
 Unfortunately, they weren’t his last victims. Dartanyon, who also goes 
by DAW, claims he has stolen thousands of identities. So many that he’s 
lost count. It’s rare to hear firsthand from an identity thief. In this
 episode, Dartanyon
How to steal someone’s identity
How did he do it? He had many tactics. But the most proven technique 
was paying off restaurant employees, car dealerships, and tax 
preparation companies. These employees served as double agents. When no 
one was looking, they would collect customers' social security numbers and
 smuggle them to DAW. Today, DAW’s life of crime is behind him. He even ran for Congress for the U.S. House of Representatives.

How to protect your identity
These days, it’s just as easy to steal your identity from a breached 
database. Everything an identity thief needs to steal your identity is 
already online. What can you do to protect yourself? 
Click here to see if your email has been involved in a breached database:

https://haveibeenpwned.com/

Freezing your credit and setting up a fraud alert
I’ve taken the extreme step of freezing my credit. It’s actually not 
really that extreme. In fact, it’s quite easy. In this episode, you’ll 
hear how simple it is to lock down your credit so that no one can assume
 your identity. 

Michael Bazzell, a privacy consultant, walks me through the credit freeze process. For more details, download his step-by-step guide. 
Essentially, get a free credit report from one of the credit bureaus,
 then ask them to freeze your credit. This way, no one can open a line 
of credit under your name. If you ever need to unfreeze your credit, 
it’s easy. Just unfreeze your credit by going online or with a quick 
phone call. 
Equifax
Online: https://www.equifax.com/personal/credit-report-services/credit-freeze/
Experian
Online: https://www.experian.com/freeze/center.html
TransUnion
Online: https://service.transunion.com/dss/orderStep1_form.page
 
If you just stumbled on this page, start with part 1.
Michael Bazzell
To learn more about Michael Bazzell, check out his website IntelTechniques.com
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      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jan 2024 14:12:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>How to Disappear Revisited</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>15</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>Dartanyon A. Williams (DAW) stole his parents’ identities at the age of 15.
 Unfortunately, they weren’t his last victims. Dartanyon, who also goes 
by DAW, claims he has stolen thousands of identities. So many that he’s 
lost count. It’s rare to hear firsthand from an identity thief. In this
 episode, Dartanyon
How to steal someone’s identity
How did he do it? He had many tactics. But the most proven technique 
was paying off restaurant employees, car dealerships, and tax 
preparation companies. These employees served as double agents. When no 
one was looking, they would collect customers' social security numbers and
 smuggle them to DAW. Today, DAW’s life of crime is behind him. He even ran for Congress for the U.S. House of Representatives.

How to protect your identity
These days, it’s just as easy to steal your identity from a breached 
database. Everything an identity thief needs to steal your identity is 
already online. What can you do to protect yourself? 
Click here to see if your email has been involved in a breached database:

https://haveibeenpwned.com/

Freezing your credit and setting up a fraud alert
I’ve taken the extreme step of freezing my credit. It’s actually not 
really that extreme. In fact, it’s quite easy. In this episode, you’ll 
hear how simple it is to lock down your credit so that no one can assume
 your identity. 

Michael Bazzell, a privacy consultant, walks me through the credit freeze process. For more details, download his step-by-step guide. 
Essentially, get a free credit report from one of the credit bureaus,
 then ask them to freeze your credit. This way, no one can open a line 
of credit under your name. If you ever need to unfreeze your credit, 
it’s easy. Just unfreeze your credit by going online or with a quick 
phone call. 
Equifax
Online: https://www.equifax.com/personal/credit-report-services/credit-freeze/
Experian
Online: https://www.experian.com/freeze/center.html
TransUnion
Online: https://service.transunion.com/dss/orderStep1_form.page
 
If you just stumbled on this page, start with part 1.
Michael Bazzell
To learn more about Michael Bazzell, check out his website IntelTechniques.com
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        <![CDATA[<p>Dartanyon A. Williams (DAW) stole his parents’ identities at the age of 15.</p><p> Unfortunately, they weren’t his last victims. Dartanyon, who also goes </p><p>by DAW, claims he has stolen thousands of identities. So many that he’s </p><p>lost count. It’s rare to hear firsthand from an identity thief. In this</p><p> episode, Dartanyon</p><h2><strong>How to steal someone’s identity</strong></h2><p>How did he do it? He had many tactics. But the most proven technique </p><p>was paying off restaurant employees, car dealerships, and tax </p><p>preparation companies. These employees served as double agents. When no </p><p>one was looking, they would collect customers' social security numbers and</p><p> smuggle them to DAW. Today, DAW’s life of crime is behind him. He even ran <a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Dartanyon_Williams">for Congress</a> for the U.S. House of Representatives.</p><p><br></p><h2><strong>How to protect your identity</strong></h2><p>These days, it’s just as easy to steal your identity from a breached </p><p>database. Everything an identity thief needs to steal your identity is </p><p>already online. What can you do to protect yourself? </p><h3><strong>Click here to see if your email has been involved in a breached database:</strong></h3><p><br></p><p>https://haveibeenpwned.com/</p><p><br></p><h2><strong>Freezing your credit and setting up a fraud alert</strong></h2><p>I’ve taken the extreme step of freezing my credit. It’s actually not </p><p>really that extreme. In fact, it’s quite easy. In this episode, you’ll </p><p>hear how simple it is to lock down your credit so that no one can assume</p><p> your identity. </p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://inteltechniques.com/">Michael Bazzell</a>, a privacy consultant, walks me through the credit freeze process. For more details, <a href="https://inteltechniques.com/JE/Privacy_Checklists_Feb2019.pdf">download his step-by-step guide</a>. </p><p>Essentially, get a free credit report from one of the credit bureaus,</p><p> then ask them to freeze your credit. This way, no one can open a line </p><p>of credit under your name. If you ever need to unfreeze your credit, </p><p>it’s easy. Just unfreeze your credit by going online or with a quick </p><p>phone call. </p><p><strong>Equifax</strong></p><p>Online: https://www.equifax.com/personal/credit-report-services/credit-freeze/</p><p><strong>Experian</strong></p><p>Online: https://www.experian.com/freeze/center.html</p><p><strong>TransUnion</strong></p><p>Online: <a href="https://service.transunion.com/dss/orderStep1_form.page">https://service.transunion.com/dss/orderStep1_form.page</a></p><p> </p><p>If you just stumbled on this page, <a href="https://pretendradio.org/how-to-disappear-patrick-mcdermott-olivia-newton-john/">start with part 1</a>.</p><h2><strong>Michael Bazzell</strong></h2><p>To learn more about Michael Bazzell, check out his website <a href="https://inteltechniques.com/podcast.html">IntelTechniques.com</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>1509: The One Who Got Away - Revisited</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/episode/s401-the-lost-boy/</link>
      <description>Peter Pan syndrome is when someone refuses to grow up. 
It’s neither a disease nor a recognized mental disorder—it’s just a state of mind. Today, you’ll meet a man who became a fugitive to live in his very own Neverland.
Larry Douglas Jones is not your typical fugitive. He had a wife and three kids. He’s not a dangerous man. Larry just became overwhelmed with life and decided to run away. 
This is a rebroadcast of a previous series about fugitives running from the law. In season 4 of PRETEND, we explore how abandoning your old identity leads to complications. How do these criminals assume a new identity? What strategies do they use to avoid getting caught? 
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      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2024 15:48:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The One Who Got Away - Revisited</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>15</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Peter Pan syndrome is when someone refuses to grow up. 
It’s neither a disease nor a recognized mental disorder—it’s just a state of mind. Today, you’ll meet a man who became a fugitive to live in his very own Neverland.
Larry Douglas Jones is not your typical fugitive. He had a wife and three kids. He’s not a dangerous man. Larry just became overwhelmed with life and decided to run away. 
This is a rebroadcast of a previous series about fugitives running from the law. In season 4 of PRETEND, we explore how abandoning your old identity leads to complications. How do these criminals assume a new identity? What strategies do they use to avoid getting caught? 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<h1>Peter Pan syndrome is when someone refuses to grow up. </h1><p>It’s neither a disease nor a recognized mental disorder—it’s just a state of mind. Today, you’ll meet a man who became a fugitive to live in his very own Neverland.</p><p>Larry Douglas Jones is not your typical fugitive. He had a wife and three kids. He’s not a dangerous man. Larry just became overwhelmed with life and decided to run away. </p><p>This is a rebroadcast of a previous series about fugitives running from the law. In season 4 of PRETEND, we explore how abandoning your old identity leads to complications. How do these criminals assume a new identity? What strategies do they use to avoid getting caught? </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2956</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1508: The Christmas Con</title>
      <description>In today's Christmas episode, we delve into the story of David Ellisor, a man whose grand Christmas scheme left the city of Miami in disbelief. Ellisor, a real-life Grinch, planned to host "Christmas From Around the World," a supposed once-in-a-lifetime event promising the presence of ambassadors, live reindeer, and a spectacle of global traditions. But the event never happened. He collected the cash and made a run for it. This is a Christmas caper for the ages. 

Plus, listeners tell their own Christmas con stories. 

Merry Christmas! Happy Holidays! And I wish all of you a Happy New Year!
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      <pubDate>Sun, 24 Dec 2023 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Christmas Con</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>15</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>In today's Christmas episode, we delve into the story of David Ellisor, a man whose grand Christmas scheme left the city of Miami in disbelief. Ellisor, a real-life Grinch, planned to host "Christmas From Around the World," a supposed once-in-a-lifetime event promising the presence of ambassadors, live reindeer, and a spectacle of global traditions. But the event never happened. He collected the cash and made a run for it. This is a Christmas caper for the ages. 

Plus, listeners tell their own Christmas con stories. 

Merry Christmas! Happy Holidays! And I wish all of you a Happy New Year!
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        <![CDATA[<p>In today's Christmas episode, we delve into the story of David Ellisor, a man whose grand Christmas scheme left the city of Miami in disbelief. Ellisor, a real-life Grinch, planned to host "Christmas From Around the World," a supposed once-in-a-lifetime event promising the presence of ambassadors, live reindeer, and a spectacle of global traditions. But the event never happened. He collected the cash and made a run for it. This is a Christmas caper for the ages. </p><p><br></p><p>Plus, listeners tell their own Christmas con stories. </p><p><br></p><p>Merry Christmas! Happy Holidays! And I wish all of you a Happy New Year!</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2402</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1507 - The Stalker - It Will Never End (part 18)</title>
      <description>The Stalker Saga Continues: Trial Back On for Tanya and Rick Fernandez
Hey there, avid followers of the "Stalker" series! You might recall my last update, where I mentioned  Tanya and Rick Fernandez may have taken a plea deal. Well.... There was a bit of a mix-up: while the State of Arizona court website had the trial marked as "vacated," a peek into the Maricopa Superior Court website told a different story. It turns out they have a new trial date set for February 27, 2024. 
So, what does this mean? Initially, I speculated that the couple might have struck a plea deal. It seemed like a plausible explanation at the time, considering the how their settlement conference ended. But, as it often turns out, the reality was a bit different. I'm here to set the record straight: the trial is very much back on!
But wait, there's more. I had one more conversation with Tanya Fernandez and her oldest son. To say it was enlightening would be an understatement. The conversation added one more clue into revealing the identity of the stalker.
Stay tuned for more updates as we approach the trial date. This case has been a roller coaster of developments, and I'm committed to keeping you all in the loop with every twist and turn. 
Until then, keep your eyes peeled for more updates. The "Stalker" saga is far from over.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2023 21:51:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stalker - It Will Never End (part 18)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>15</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>The Stalker Saga Continues: Trial Back On for Tanya and Rick Fernandez
Hey there, avid followers of the "Stalker" series! You might recall my last update, where I mentioned  Tanya and Rick Fernandez may have taken a plea deal. Well.... There was a bit of a mix-up: while the State of Arizona court website had the trial marked as "vacated," a peek into the Maricopa Superior Court website told a different story. It turns out they have a new trial date set for February 27, 2024. 
So, what does this mean? Initially, I speculated that the couple might have struck a plea deal. It seemed like a plausible explanation at the time, considering the how their settlement conference ended. But, as it often turns out, the reality was a bit different. I'm here to set the record straight: the trial is very much back on!
But wait, there's more. I had one more conversation with Tanya Fernandez and her oldest son. To say it was enlightening would be an understatement. The conversation added one more clue into revealing the identity of the stalker.
Stay tuned for more updates as we approach the trial date. This case has been a roller coaster of developments, and I'm committed to keeping you all in the loop with every twist and turn. 
Until then, keep your eyes peeled for more updates. The "Stalker" saga is far from over.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<h3><strong>The Stalker Saga Continues: Trial Back On for Tanya and Rick Fernandez</strong></h3><p>Hey there, avid followers of the "Stalker" series! You might recall my last update, where I mentioned  Tanya and Rick Fernandez may have taken a plea deal. Well.... There was a bit of a mix-up: while the State of Arizona court website had the trial marked as "vacated," a peek into the Maricopa Superior Court website told a different story. It turns out they have a new trial date set for February 27, 2024. </p><p>So, what does this mean? Initially, I speculated that the couple might have struck a plea deal. It seemed like a plausible explanation at the time, considering the how their settlement conference ended. But, as it often turns out, the reality was a bit different. I'm here to set the record straight: the trial is very much back on!</p><p>But wait, there's more. I had one more conversation with Tanya Fernandez and her oldest son. To say it was enlightening would be an understatement. The conversation added one more clue into revealing the identity of the stalker.</p><p>Stay tuned for more updates as we approach the trial date. This case has been a roller coaster of developments, and I'm committed to keeping you all in the loop with every twist and turn. </p><p>Until then, keep your eyes peeled for more updates. The "Stalker" saga is far from over.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1395</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1506: The Maury Povich Olive Lady</title>
      <description>So, I've got to tell you about this crazy rabbit hole I slipped into. It's about that bizarre olive lady from the Maury show. Remember her? Sally was freaked out by olives because they reminded her of, get this, dead people's eyes. Wild, right?

I always wondered, was Sally for real or just putting on a show for the cameras? This question sent me down a path that ended with me chatting with Anthony Freire, a guy who used to produce for Maury.

Man, the stuff I learned while putting together this episode! It’s like peeling back the curtain on daytime TV and finding a whole other world. Turns out, there's a ton of mind games and behind-the-scenes tricks that go into making these shows. Anthony spilled the beans on how they get people to react a certain way or amp up their emotions for the audience.

It's not just about Sally and her olive phobia. This episode digs into the bigger picture of how these TV shows mess with people's heads, both the guests and us viewers. 

If you're into the psychology of TV shows or just love a good behind-the-scenes story, you've gotta check this out. It's not your average episode of PRETEND.

Can't wait to hear what you all think. Tune in, and let's get our minds blown together!
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      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Dec 2023 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Maury Povich Olive Lady</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>15</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>So, I've got to tell you about this crazy rabbit hole I slipped into. It's about that bizarre olive lady from the Maury show. Remember her? Sally was freaked out by olives because they reminded her of, get this, dead people's eyes. Wild, right?

I always wondered, was Sally for real or just putting on a show for the cameras? This question sent me down a path that ended with me chatting with Anthony Freire, a guy who used to produce for Maury.

Man, the stuff I learned while putting together this episode! It’s like peeling back the curtain on daytime TV and finding a whole other world. Turns out, there's a ton of mind games and behind-the-scenes tricks that go into making these shows. Anthony spilled the beans on how they get people to react a certain way or amp up their emotions for the audience.

It's not just about Sally and her olive phobia. This episode digs into the bigger picture of how these TV shows mess with people's heads, both the guests and us viewers. 

If you're into the psychology of TV shows or just love a good behind-the-scenes story, you've gotta check this out. It's not your average episode of PRETEND.

Can't wait to hear what you all think. Tune in, and let's get our minds blown together!
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>So, I've got to tell you about this crazy rabbit hole I slipped into. It's about that bizarre olive lady from the Maury show. Remember her? Sally was freaked out by olives because they reminded her of, get this, dead people's eyes. Wild, right?</p><p><br></p><p>I always wondered, was Sally for real or just putting on a show for the cameras? This question sent me down a path that ended with me chatting with Anthony Freire, a guy who used to produce for Maury.</p><p><br></p><p>Man, the stuff I learned while putting together this episode! It’s like peeling back the curtain on daytime TV and finding a whole other world. Turns out, there's a ton of mind games and behind-the-scenes tricks that go into making these shows. Anthony spilled the beans on how they get people to react a certain way or amp up their emotions for the audience.</p><p><br></p><p>It's not just about Sally and her olive phobia. This episode digs into the bigger picture of how these TV shows mess with people's heads, both the guests and us viewers. </p><p><br></p><p>If you're into the psychology of TV shows or just love a good behind-the-scenes story, you've gotta check this out. It's not your average episode of PRETEND.</p><p><br></p><p>Can't wait to hear what you all think. Tune in, and let's get our minds blown together!</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2119</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1504: The Red Collar Killer part 2</title>
      <description>Today on "PRETEND," we explore the unsettling world of red-collar criminals, as defined by Frank Perri. These are white-collar offenders who commit murder to hide their frauds. This episode takes a closer look at the motivations and warning signs of these dangerous individuals. They could be closer than you think: a friend, family member, or coworker.
We also investigate how male and female red-collar criminals differ in their methods and motivations. Understanding these distinctions is crucial in recognizing and possibly preventing future red-collar crimes.

Red Collar White Collar Crime: Corporate, Predatory and Violent Fraud Offenders by Frank Perri:
https://www.amazon.com/Red-Collar-White-Crime-Corporate/dp/B09BGLZ7XL
PRETEND Facebook Group:
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      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Nov 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Red Collar Killer part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>15</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>Today on "PRETEND," we explore the unsettling world of red-collar criminals, as defined by Frank Perri. These are white-collar offenders who commit murder to hide their frauds. This episode takes a closer look at the motivations and warning signs of these dangerous individuals. They could be closer than you think: a friend, family member, or coworker.
We also investigate how male and female red-collar criminals differ in their methods and motivations. Understanding these distinctions is crucial in recognizing and possibly preventing future red-collar crimes.

Red Collar White Collar Crime: Corporate, Predatory and Violent Fraud Offenders by Frank Perri:
https://www.amazon.com/Red-Collar-White-Crime-Corporate/dp/B09BGLZ7XL
PRETEND Facebook Group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/pretendradio/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Today on "PRETEND," we explore the unsettling world of red-collar criminals, as defined by Frank Perri. These are white-collar offenders who commit murder to hide their frauds. This episode takes a closer look at the motivations and warning signs of these dangerous individuals. They could be closer than you think: a friend, family member, or coworker.</p><p>We also investigate how male and female red-collar criminals differ in their methods and motivations. Understanding these distinctions is crucial in recognizing and possibly preventing future red-collar crimes.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Red Collar White Collar Crime: Corporate, Predatory and Violent Fraud Offenders by Frank Perri:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Red-Collar-White-Crime-Corporate/dp/B09BGLZ7XL">https://www.amazon.com/Red-Collar-White-Crime-Corporate/dp/B09BGLZ7XL</a></p><p><strong>PRETEND Facebook Group:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/pretendradio/">https://www.facebook.com/groups/pretendradio/</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1488</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1503: The Red Collar Killer part 1</title>
      <description>Red Collar Killers: The Hidden Violence of White Collar Crimes

Can white-collar criminals be driven to murder? 
In this episode of PRETEND, we explore 'Red Collar Criminals,' a term coined by attorney, CPA, and Certified Fraud Examiner Frank Perri. Perri defines red-collar criminals as white-collar offenders who turn to violence to hide their frauds. 
We investigate the psychology and patterns common among these criminals, revealing how ordinary financial crimes can escalate into brutal acts of violence. By examining various cases, this episode paints a vivid picture of the dangerous and often unnoticed overlap between deceit and murder.

Red Collar White Collar Crime: Corporate, Predatory and Violent Fraud Offenders by Frank Perri:
https://www.amazon.com/Red-Collar-White-Crime-Corporate/dp/B09BGLZ7XL

PRETEND Facebook Group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/pretendradio/
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      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2023 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Red Collar Killer part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>15</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle/>
      <itunes:summary>Red Collar Killers: The Hidden Violence of White Collar Crimes

Can white-collar criminals be driven to murder? 
In this episode of PRETEND, we explore 'Red Collar Criminals,' a term coined by attorney, CPA, and Certified Fraud Examiner Frank Perri. Perri defines red-collar criminals as white-collar offenders who turn to violence to hide their frauds. 
We investigate the psychology and patterns common among these criminals, revealing how ordinary financial crimes can escalate into brutal acts of violence. By examining various cases, this episode paints a vivid picture of the dangerous and often unnoticed overlap between deceit and murder.

Red Collar White Collar Crime: Corporate, Predatory and Violent Fraud Offenders by Frank Perri:
https://www.amazon.com/Red-Collar-White-Crime-Corporate/dp/B09BGLZ7XL

PRETEND Facebook Group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/pretendradio/
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        <![CDATA[<h2>Red Collar Killers: The Hidden Violence of White Collar Crimes</h2><p><br></p><h3>Can white-collar criminals be driven to murder? </h3><p>In this episode of PRETEND, we explore 'Red Collar Criminals,' a term coined by attorney, CPA, and Certified Fraud Examiner Frank Perri. Perri defines red-collar criminals as white-collar offenders who turn to violence to hide their frauds. </p><p>We investigate the psychology and patterns common among these criminals, revealing how ordinary financial crimes can escalate into brutal acts of violence. By examining various cases, this episode paints a vivid picture of the dangerous and often unnoticed overlap between deceit and murder.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Red Collar White Collar Crime: Corporate, Predatory and Violent Fraud Offenders by Frank Perri:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Red-Collar-White-Crime-Corporate/dp/B09BGLZ7XL">https://www.amazon.com/Red-Collar-White-Crime-Corporate/dp/B09BGLZ7XL</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>PRETEND Facebook Group:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/pretendradio/">https://www.facebook.com/groups/pretendradio/</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1800</itunes:duration>
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      <title>The Stalker - Is this the end? </title>
      <description>I checked the Arizona court website and it looks like Tanya and Rick Fernandez accepted a plea deal. So is this the end?
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      <pubDate>Mon, 20 Nov 2023 21:02:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stalker - Is this the end? </itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>15</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>I checked the Arizona court website and it looks like Tanya and Rick Fernandez accepted a plea deal. So is this the end?
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        <![CDATA[<p>I checked the Arizona court website and it looks like Tanya and Rick Fernandez accepted a plea deal. So is this the end?</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>1502: The Stalker - Beyond a Reasonable Doubt (part 17)</title>
      <link>https://www.facebook.com/groups/pretendradio</link>
      <description>"PRETEND: The Stalker" is back with a bombshell that you've all been waiting for: new court audio from The Fernandez Settlement Conference.
It's been a while since we've delved into the world of Tanya and Rick Fernandez, the subjects of one of The Stalker series. In the nine months since their indictment on January 25, 2023, where they faced a barrage of six felony charges, the Fernandez case has been marked by a relentless procession of delays.
The defense attorneys? They've been hitting the pause button time and time again, clamoring for more time to prepare their strategy. Meanwhile, the State of Arizona? They've remained steadfast, offering no plea deals whatsoever. The result? It was an agonizing year filled with 'hurry up and wait.'
But here's where it gets riveting – this past summer, the Fernandezes made an interesting move. They willingly relinquished their right to a speedy trial. Why? Their legal team argues that this case is anything but ordinary. It's complex, requiring more time for expert witness interviews, akin to a high-stakes murder trial. It's a bold move; let's see if it works.
We're inching closer to the December 6th, 2023 trial date. Will the State of Arizona finally extend a plea deal? And more critically, will the Fernandezes accept it, or are they unshakable in their belief that their narrative will captivate a jury?
In this episode of "PRETEND: The Stalker," you'll hear directly from the judge and prosecutor and finally get answers to our most burning questions. Will the Fernandezes cut a deal, or are they destined to take their chances in the unforgiving courtroom?
Let me know what you think on social!

Follow the conversation on Instagram @pretendpod:
https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/?hl=en
or on the PRETEND Facebook Group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/pretendradio
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      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Nov 2023 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stalker - Beyond a Reasonable Doubt (part 17)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>15</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>"PRETEND: The Stalker" is back with a bombshell that you've all been waiting for: new court audio from The Fernandez Settlement Conference.
It's been a while since we've delved into the world of Tanya and Rick Fernandez, the subjects of one of The Stalker series. In the nine months since their indictment on January 25, 2023, where they faced a barrage of six felony charges, the Fernandez case has been marked by a relentless procession of delays.
The defense attorneys? They've been hitting the pause button time and time again, clamoring for more time to prepare their strategy. Meanwhile, the State of Arizona? They've remained steadfast, offering no plea deals whatsoever. The result? It was an agonizing year filled with 'hurry up and wait.'
But here's where it gets riveting – this past summer, the Fernandezes made an interesting move. They willingly relinquished their right to a speedy trial. Why? Their legal team argues that this case is anything but ordinary. It's complex, requiring more time for expert witness interviews, akin to a high-stakes murder trial. It's a bold move; let's see if it works.
We're inching closer to the December 6th, 2023 trial date. Will the State of Arizona finally extend a plea deal? And more critically, will the Fernandezes accept it, or are they unshakable in their belief that their narrative will captivate a jury?
In this episode of "PRETEND: The Stalker," you'll hear directly from the judge and prosecutor and finally get answers to our most burning questions. Will the Fernandezes cut a deal, or are they destined to take their chances in the unforgiving courtroom?
Let me know what you think on social!

Follow the conversation on Instagram @pretendpod:
https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/?hl=en
or on the PRETEND Facebook Group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/pretendradio
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>"PRETEND: The Stalker"</strong> is back with a bombshell that you've all been waiting for: new court audio from <strong>The Fernandez Settlement Conference.</strong></p><p>It's been a while since we've delved into the world of Tanya and Rick Fernandez, the subjects of one of The Stalker series. In the nine months since their indictment on January 25, 2023, where they faced a barrage of six felony charges, the Fernandez case has been marked by a relentless procession of delays.</p><p>The defense attorneys? They've been hitting the pause button time and time again, clamoring for more time to prepare their strategy. Meanwhile, the State of Arizona? They've remained steadfast, offering no plea deals whatsoever. The result? It was an agonizing year filled with 'hurry up and wait.'</p><p>But here's where it gets riveting – this past summer, the Fernandezes made an interesting move. They willingly relinquished their right to a speedy trial. Why? Their legal team argues that this case is anything but ordinary. It's complex, requiring more time for expert witness interviews, akin to a high-stakes murder trial. It's a bold move; let's see if it works.</p><p>We're inching closer to the December 6th, 2023 trial date. Will the State of Arizona finally extend a plea deal? And more critically, will the Fernandezes accept it, or are they unshakable in their belief that their narrative will captivate a jury?</p><p>In this episode of <strong>"PRETEND: The Stalker,"</strong> you'll hear directly from the judge and prosecutor and finally get answers to our most burning questions. Will the Fernandezes cut a deal, or are they destined to take their chances in the unforgiving courtroom?</p><p>Let me know what you think on social!</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow the conversation on Instagram @pretendpod:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/?hl=en">https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/?hl=en</a></p><p><strong>or on the PRETEND Facebook Group:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/pretendradio">https://www.facebook.com/groups/pretendradio</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>PREVIEW: The Stalker Settlement Conference</title>
      <description>Get ready, folks!
I've just wrapped up listening to the Settlement Conference audio, and let me tell you, it's nothing short of mind-blowing. Right now, "WOW" is all I can muster. It's jam-packed with the answers we've all been itching to find.
Ever wondered what might happen if this case goes to trial? Will the Fernandez's stand firm in their refusal to accept a plea deal? What does the judge think of all this madness? Well, get ready to find out as the judge describes Tanya and Rick's possible fate.
I've even got a sneak peek for you, a short clip of the judge painting a vivid picture of their chances in front of a jury. Trust me; you won't want to miss this.
I'm hard at work on the new episode, and my hope is to get it out to you as soon as humanly possible. Bracing myself for a busy weekend ahead.
Stay tuned – there's much more to come!
Cheers, Javier

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      <pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 21:06:50 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>PREVIEW: The Stalker Settlement Conference</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>15</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Get ready, folks!
I've just wrapped up listening to the Settlement Conference audio, and let me tell you, it's nothing short of mind-blowing. Right now, "WOW" is all I can muster. It's jam-packed with the answers we've all been itching to find.
Ever wondered what might happen if this case goes to trial? Will the Fernandez's stand firm in their refusal to accept a plea deal? What does the judge think of all this madness? Well, get ready to find out as the judge describes Tanya and Rick's possible fate.
I've even got a sneak peek for you, a short clip of the judge painting a vivid picture of their chances in front of a jury. Trust me; you won't want to miss this.
I'm hard at work on the new episode, and my hope is to get it out to you as soon as humanly possible. Bracing myself for a busy weekend ahead.
Stay tuned – there's much more to come!
Cheers, Javier

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio 

Pretend+: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Get ready, folks!</p><p>I've just wrapped up listening to the Settlement Conference audio, and let me tell you, it's nothing short of mind-blowing. Right now, "WOW" is all I can muster. It's jam-packed with the answers we've all been itching to find.</p><p>Ever wondered what might happen if this case goes to trial? Will the Fernandez's stand firm in their refusal to accept a plea deal? What does the judge think of all this madness? Well, get ready to find out as the judge describes Tanya and Rick's possible fate.</p><p>I've even got a sneak peek for you, a short clip of the judge painting a vivid picture of their chances in front of a jury. Trust me; you won't want to miss this.</p><p>I'm hard at work on the new episode, and my hope is to get it out to you as soon as humanly possible. Bracing myself for a busy weekend ahead.</p><p>Stay tuned – there's much more to come!</p><p>Cheers, Javier</p><p><br></p><p>Patreon: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio%20">https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio </a></p><p><br></p><p>Pretend+: <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>The Lie Detector Revisited</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/episode/the-lie-detector-how-to-cheat-a-polygraph-test-doug-williams/</link>
      <description>Learn how to cheat a polygraph test. Ex-cop, Doug Williams, says it’s a lot easier than you think. 
Doug Williams is looking over his shoulder because, since 1979, he’s been on a crusade to defeat the polygraph machine. In 1996, he started a website called polygraph.com, offering a handbook and one-on-one training teaching people how to pass the test. 

“There is no Pinocchio response. Your nose does not grow when you lie.” Doug Williams, polygraph critic

According to Doug Williams, a lie detector test is about as accurate as a coin toss. He claims the machine doesn’t work, and as a result, innocent people are paying the price. Many innocent people have pleaded guilty and skipped trial because they failed a polygraph during an interrogation. And employers routinely administered polygraph tests as part of their hiring process. If you fail a lie detector test in the US federal government, you’re potentially placed on a blacklist and never allowed to apply for that government agency job again. 

Doug Willams says that the polygraph is just a stage prop used to scare people. How does he know this? Because he spent most of his law enforcement career using it as what he calls a psychological billy club. To him, it was just a tool to beat a confession out of a bad guy. But over the years, he realized that a polygraph test is just that… a test. It can be cheated. And he would devote the rest of his life to destroying it. 

Doug Williams made a career giving people polygraph exams. Now, he’s going to prison for teaching people how to cheat the test.   

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      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Nov 2023 13:42:15 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Lie Detector Revisited</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Learn how to cheat a polygraph test. Ex-cop, Doug Williams, says it’s a lot easier than you think. 
Doug Williams is looking over his shoulder because, since 1979, he’s been on a crusade to defeat the polygraph machine. In 1996, he started a website called polygraph.com, offering a handbook and one-on-one training teaching people how to pass the test. 

“There is no Pinocchio response. Your nose does not grow when you lie.” Doug Williams, polygraph critic

According to Doug Williams, a lie detector test is about as accurate as a coin toss. He claims the machine doesn’t work, and as a result, innocent people are paying the price. Many innocent people have pleaded guilty and skipped trial because they failed a polygraph during an interrogation. And employers routinely administered polygraph tests as part of their hiring process. If you fail a lie detector test in the US federal government, you’re potentially placed on a blacklist and never allowed to apply for that government agency job again. 

Doug Willams says that the polygraph is just a stage prop used to scare people. How does he know this? Because he spent most of his law enforcement career using it as what he calls a psychological billy club. To him, it was just a tool to beat a confession out of a bad guy. But over the years, he realized that a polygraph test is just that… a test. It can be cheated. And he would devote the rest of his life to destroying it. 

Doug Williams made a career giving people polygraph exams. Now, he’s going to prison for teaching people how to cheat the test.   

FOLLOW PRETEND ON YOUTUBE:
https://www.youtube.com/@PretendPod
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        <![CDATA[<h1>Learn how to cheat a polygraph test. Ex-cop, Doug Williams, says it’s a lot easier than you think. </h1><p>Doug Williams is looking over his shoulder because, since 1979, he’s been on a crusade to defeat the polygraph machine. In 1996, he started a website called polygraph.com, offering a handbook and one-on-one training teaching people how to pass the test. </p><p><br></p><p>“There is no Pinocchio response. Your nose does not grow when you lie.” Doug Williams, polygraph critic</p><p><br></p><p>According to Doug Williams, a lie detector test is about as accurate as a coin toss. He claims the machine doesn’t work, and as a result, innocent people are paying the price. Many innocent people have pleaded guilty and skipped trial because they failed a polygraph during an interrogation. And employers routinely administered polygraph tests as part of their hiring process. If you fail a lie detector test in the US federal government, you’re potentially placed on a blacklist and never allowed to apply for that government agency job again. </p><p><br></p><p>Doug Willams says that the polygraph is just a stage prop used to scare people. How does he know this? Because he spent most of his law enforcement career using it as what he calls a psychological billy club. To him, it was just a tool to beat a confession out of a bad guy. But over the years, he realized that a polygraph test is just that… a test. It can be cheated. And he would devote the rest of his life to destroying it. </p><p><br></p><p>Doug Williams made a career giving people polygraph exams. Now, he’s going to prison for teaching people how to cheat the test.   </p><h2><br></h2><h2><strong>FOLLOW PRETEND ON YOUTUBE:</strong></h2><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@PretendPod">https://www.youtube.com/@PretendPod</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>The Babalawo Revisited</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/episode/babalawo-secrets-santeria/</link>
      <description>In today's episode titled "The Babalawo," we delve deep into the world of Santería - the religion, not the song. While many might recognize the song, few are familiar with this mysterious Afro-Cuban faith, also known as Regla de Ochá, La Regla de Ifá, or Lucumí, which translates to the worship of saints.
You might wonder, "Where's the twist in this tale?" I've always felt an unsettling vibe around this religion. My fellow Cubans often consult Santería priests as if seeking divination. But is this genuine spiritual guidance, or am I unfairly biased against it? Spoiler: I might be letting my biases cloud my judgment.
To truly understand, I need to immerse myself in the heart of Santería, right in my hometown of Miami. But first, what exactly is a Babalawo?
A Babalawo is a revered figure in Santería, a priest who communicates prophecies from the Orishas, spirits representing aspects of the divine God Olodumare. In this episode, we'll uncover the history and roots of Santería, engaging in enlightening conversations with both a Santería priest and priestess, shedding light on their clandestine ceremonies.

—–MUSIC—–
Our theme music is crafted by the talented Joe Basile from The Chicken Music and Sound Design. Discover more about Joe and The Chicken at www.thechicken.net.
We also feature tunes by Podington Bear.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Oct 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Babalawo Revisited</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>14</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In today's episode titled "The Babalawo," we delve deep into the world of Santería - the religion, not the song. While many might recognize the song, few are familiar with this mysterious Afro-Cuban faith, also known as Regla de Ochá, La Regla de Ifá, or Lucumí, which translates to the worship of saints.
You might wonder, "Where's the twist in this tale?" I've always felt an unsettling vibe around this religion. My fellow Cubans often consult Santería priests as if seeking divination. But is this genuine spiritual guidance, or am I unfairly biased against it? Spoiler: I might be letting my biases cloud my judgment.
To truly understand, I need to immerse myself in the heart of Santería, right in my hometown of Miami. But first, what exactly is a Babalawo?
A Babalawo is a revered figure in Santería, a priest who communicates prophecies from the Orishas, spirits representing aspects of the divine God Olodumare. In this episode, we'll uncover the history and roots of Santería, engaging in enlightening conversations with both a Santería priest and priestess, shedding light on their clandestine ceremonies.

—–MUSIC—–
Our theme music is crafted by the talented Joe Basile from The Chicken Music and Sound Design. Discover more about Joe and The Chicken at www.thechicken.net.
We also feature tunes by Podington Bear.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In today's episode titled "The Babalawo," we delve deep into the world of Santería - the religion, not the song. While many might recognize the song, few are familiar with this mysterious Afro-Cuban faith, also known as Regla de Ochá, La Regla de Ifá, or Lucumí, which translates to the worship of saints.</p><p>You might wonder, "Where's the twist in this tale?" I've always felt an unsettling vibe around this religion. My fellow Cubans often consult Santería priests as if seeking divination. But is this genuine spiritual guidance, or am I unfairly biased against it? Spoiler: I might be letting my biases cloud my judgment.</p><p>To truly understand, I need to immerse myself in the heart of Santería, right in my hometown of Miami. But first, what exactly is a Babalawo?</p><p>A Babalawo is a revered figure in Santería, a priest who communicates prophecies from the Orishas, spirits representing aspects of the divine God Olodumare. In this episode, we'll uncover the history and roots of Santería, engaging in enlightening conversations with both a Santería priest and priestess, shedding light on their clandestine ceremonies.</p><p><br></p><p>—–MUSIC—–</p><p>Our theme music is crafted by the talented Joe Basile from The Chicken Music and Sound Design. Discover more about Joe and The Chicken at <a href="http://www.thechicken.net">www.thechicken.net</a>.</p><p>We also feature tunes by Podington Bear.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2793</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1413: The Haunted Tourist </title>
      <description>This week, we journey into the heart of dark tourism, exploring iconic haunted locations like the Winchester House, The Myrtle Plantation, and the eerie Lost City of Frenier. But how much of what we hear is historically accurate, and how much is just for show? Are the tales of the curse of Julia Brown rooted in fact, or are they just spine-chilling fables? Brandon Schexnayder of the Southern Gothic Podcast is here to help us separate spectral facts from fiction. Prepare for a deep dive into the stories that have both fascinated and terrified generations.

Listen to Southern Gothic:
https://www.southerngothicmedia.com/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Haunted Tourist </itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>14</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>This week, we journey into the heart of dark tourism, exploring iconic haunted locations like the Winchester House, The Myrtle Plantation, and the eerie Lost City of Frenier. But how much of what we hear is historically accurate, and how much is just for show? Are the tales of the curse of Julia Brown rooted in fact, or are they just spine-chilling fables? Brandon Schexnayder of the Southern Gothic Podcast is here to help us separate spectral facts from fiction. Prepare for a deep dive into the stories that have both fascinated and terrified generations.

Listen to Southern Gothic:
https://www.southerngothicmedia.com/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week, we journey into the heart of dark tourism, exploring iconic haunted locations like the Winchester House, The Myrtle Plantation, and the eerie Lost City of Frenier. But how much of what we hear is historically accurate, and how much is just for show? Are the tales of the curse of Julia Brown rooted in fact, or are they just spine-chilling fables? Brandon Schexnayder of the Southern Gothic Podcast is here to help us separate spectral facts from fiction. Prepare for a deep dive into the stories that have both fascinated and terrified generations.</p><p><br></p><p>Listen to Southern Gothic:</p><p>https://www.southerngothicmedia.com/</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3532</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1412: The Puppet Master</title>
      <description>Former Lieutenant Governor's Ex-Staffer Arrested for Elaborate Deception in Divorce; Husband Speaks Out
Beth Green, a former member of Georgia Lieutenant Governor Geoff Duncan's staff, was arrested, facing felony charges stemming from a plot to torment her husband during their divorce proceedings. Accused of impersonating her former boss and employing deceptive personas, Green's arrest follows a warrant issued by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI). But what's even more astonishing is what Beth's husband has to say about the extent of her alleged deception. In today's episode of the PRETEND Podcast, we explore the extraordinary story of betrayal, lies, and the unraveling of trust in the midst of a divorce.

Follow PRETEND on Social:
https://linktr.ee/pretendpod
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Oct 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Puppet Master</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>14</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Former Lieutenant Governor's Ex-Staffer Arrested for Elaborate Deception in Divorce; Husband Speaks Out
Beth Green, a former member of Georgia Lieutenant Governor Geoff Duncan's staff, was arrested, facing felony charges stemming from a plot to torment her husband during their divorce proceedings. Accused of impersonating her former boss and employing deceptive personas, Green's arrest follows a warrant issued by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI). But what's even more astonishing is what Beth's husband has to say about the extent of her alleged deception. In today's episode of the PRETEND Podcast, we explore the extraordinary story of betrayal, lies, and the unraveling of trust in the midst of a divorce.

Follow PRETEND on Social:
https://linktr.ee/pretendpod
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<h1>Former Lieutenant Governor's Ex-Staffer Arrested for Elaborate Deception in Divorce; Husband Speaks Out</h1><p>Beth Green, a former member of Georgia Lieutenant Governor Geoff Duncan's staff, was arrested, facing felony charges stemming from a plot to torment her husband during their divorce proceedings. Accused of impersonating her former boss and employing deceptive personas, Green's arrest follows a warrant issued by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI). But what's even more astonishing is what Beth's husband has to say about the extent of her alleged deception. In today's episode of the PRETEND Podcast, we explore the extraordinary story of betrayal, lies, and the unraveling of trust in the midst of a divorce.</p><p><br></p><p>Follow PRETEND on Social:</p><p><a href="https://linktr.ee/pretendpod">https://linktr.ee/pretendpod</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2270</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1411: The Lost and Found part 2 (Rudy Farias)</title>
      <description>On the next episode of Pretend, we investigate the perplexing case of 17-year-old Rudy Farias. While he was presumed missing for eight years, an unexpected twist raised suspicions of a hoax. 
Our investigation uncovers a trail of fraud linked to Rudy's mother, Janie Santana, spanning decades. This includes multiple marriages, charity scams, a fabricated cancer diagnosis, and even laying claim to the house of a late sheriff's deputy.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Lost and Found part 2 (Rudy Farias)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>14</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>On the next episode of Pretend, we investigate the perplexing case of 17-year-old Rudy Farias. While he was presumed missing for eight years, an unexpected twist raised suspicions of a hoax. 
Our investigation uncovers a trail of fraud linked to Rudy's mother, Janie Santana, spanning decades. This includes multiple marriages, charity scams, a fabricated cancer diagnosis, and even laying claim to the house of a late sheriff's deputy.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>On the next episode of Pretend, we investigate the perplexing case of 17-year-old Rudy Farias. While he was presumed missing for eight years, an unexpected twist raised suspicions of a hoax. </p><p>Our investigation uncovers a trail of fraud linked to Rudy's mother, Janie Santana, spanning decades. This includes multiple marriages, charity scams, a fabricated cancer diagnosis, and even laying claim to the house of a late sheriff's deputy.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2470</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1410: The Lost and Found part 1 (Rudy Farias)</title>
      <description>Missing teen is found. From Heartwarming Reunion to 'Wait, What?' Hoax Claims

So, here's a plot twist for you: Rudy Farias, the Houston teen who was reported missing in 2015, returned after eight years. Instead of celebration and joyful tears, rumors were swirling about possible deception. Where was Rudy Farias hiding? This is not your typical missing person's case.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Lost and Found part 1 (Rudy Farias)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>14</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Missing teen is found. From Heartwarming Reunion to 'Wait, What?' Hoax Claims

So, here's a plot twist for you: Rudy Farias, the Houston teen who was reported missing in 2015, returned after eight years. Instead of celebration and joyful tears, rumors were swirling about possible deception. Where was Rudy Farias hiding? This is not your typical missing person's case.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<h2>Missing teen is found. From Heartwarming Reunion to 'Wait, What?' Hoax Claims</h2><p><br></p><p>So, here's a plot twist for you: Rudy Farias, the Houston teen who was reported missing in 2015, returned after eight years. Instead of celebration and joyful tears, rumors were swirling about possible deception. Where was Rudy Farias hiding? This is not your typical missing person's case.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>1496</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1409: The Shit Show (plus Stalker update)</title>
      <link>https://linktr.ee/ponziplaybook</link>
      <description>Subscribe to the Ponzi Playbook podcast:
https://linktr.ee/ponziplaybook
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      <pubDate>Tue, 26 Sep 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Shit Show (plus Stalker update)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>14</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Subscribe to the Ponzi Playbook podcast:
https://linktr.ee/ponziplaybook
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Subscribe to the Ponzi Playbook podcast:</p><p>https://linktr.ee/ponziplaybook</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>1735</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1408: The Digital Pickpocket part 2</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>James Freedman: Unmasking the Modern-Day Pickpocket
In a world where the hustle and bustle of everyday life increasingly revolves around smartphones and digital wallets, the age-old craft of pickpocketing has found new avenues to thrive. 
Enter James Freedman, a British entertainer and professional pickpocket who has chosen a unique and unexpected path. Rather than succumbing to a life of crime, Freedman employs his extraordinary skills to aid law enforcement in apprehending criminals.
The notion that pickpocketing is a vanishing art form is a misconception. Instead, it has evolved and adapted to the digital age. Today, we delve into the intriguing world of modern pickpocketing with James Freedman, who will unveil the intricate techniques behind the art of "tapp, dip, and swipe."

Links:
James Freedman: 
https://www.jamesfreedman.com/

CNET's Best Password Managers:
https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/best-password-manager/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Digital Pickpocket part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>14</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>James Freedman: Unmasking the Modern-Day Pickpocket
In a world where the hustle and bustle of everyday life increasingly revolves around smartphones and digital wallets, the age-old craft of pickpocketing has found new avenues to thrive. 
Enter James Freedman, a British entertainer and professional pickpocket who has chosen a unique and unexpected path. Rather than succumbing to a life of crime, Freedman employs his extraordinary skills to aid law enforcement in apprehending criminals.
The notion that pickpocketing is a vanishing art form is a misconception. Instead, it has evolved and adapted to the digital age. Today, we delve into the intriguing world of modern pickpocketing with James Freedman, who will unveil the intricate techniques behind the art of "tapp, dip, and swipe."

Links:
James Freedman: 
https://www.jamesfreedman.com/

CNET's Best Password Managers:
https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/best-password-manager/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<h2>James Freedman: Unmasking the Modern-Day Pickpocket</h2><h3>In a world where the hustle and bustle of everyday life increasingly revolves around smartphones and digital wallets, the age-old craft of pickpocketing has found new avenues to thrive. </h3><p>Enter James Freedman, a British entertainer and professional pickpocket who has chosen a unique and unexpected path. Rather than succumbing to a life of crime, Freedman employs his extraordinary skills to aid law enforcement in apprehending criminals.</p><p>The notion that pickpocketing is a vanishing art form is a misconception. Instead, it has evolved and adapted to the digital age. Today, we delve into the intriguing world of modern pickpocketing with James Freedman, who will unveil the intricate techniques behind the art of "tapp, dip, and swipe."</p><p><br></p><h3><strong>Links:</strong></h3><p><strong>James Freedman:</strong> </p><p><a href="https://www.jamesfreedman.com/">https://www.jamesfreedman.com/</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>CNET's Best Password Managers:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/best-password-manager/">https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/best-password-manager/</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1992</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1407: The Digital Pickpocket part 1</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>Pickpockets in the Digital Age: The Evolution of a Timeless Crime

In a world where technology reigns supreme, the art of pickpocketing has not vanished into history's annals.
While traditional pickpocketing still thrives in popular European tourist destinations like Barcelona, Prague, and Rome, the game has evolved. In an era where wallets bulging with cash have been replaced by minimalist essentials - a smartphone and keys - cunning thieves have adapted to exploit new opportunities. In this eye-opening interview with James Freedman, we delve into the world of pickpocketing in the digital age with a master of the craft, exploring a spectrum that spans from the classic pocket-wallet dip to the intricacies of credit card swipes and other forms of digital fraud that may leave you astonished—technology changes, as do the tactics of those seeking to exploit it.

Listen to part 2 (early and ad-free):
Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio

Links:
James Freedman: https://www.jamesfreedman.com/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Digital Pickpocket part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>14</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/0a5b3262-46b1-11ee-87e7-1b82f2a6fec1/image/d98de8.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Pickpockets in the Digital Age: The Evolution of a Timeless Crime

In a world where technology reigns supreme, the art of pickpocketing has not vanished into history's annals.
While traditional pickpocketing still thrives in popular European tourist destinations like Barcelona, Prague, and Rome, the game has evolved. In an era where wallets bulging with cash have been replaced by minimalist essentials - a smartphone and keys - cunning thieves have adapted to exploit new opportunities. In this eye-opening interview with James Freedman, we delve into the world of pickpocketing in the digital age with a master of the craft, exploring a spectrum that spans from the classic pocket-wallet dip to the intricacies of credit card swipes and other forms of digital fraud that may leave you astonished—technology changes, as do the tactics of those seeking to exploit it.

Listen to part 2 (early and ad-free):
Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985

Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio

Links:
James Freedman: https://www.jamesfreedman.com/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<h1>Pickpockets in the Digital Age: The Evolution of a Timeless Crime</h1><p><br></p><p>In a world where technology reigns supreme, the art of pickpocketing has not vanished into history's annals.</p><p>While traditional pickpocketing still thrives in popular European tourist destinations like Barcelona, Prague, and Rome, the game has evolved. In an era where wallets bulging with cash have been replaced by minimalist essentials - a smartphone and keys - cunning thieves have adapted to exploit new opportunities. In this eye-opening interview with James Freedman, we delve into the world of pickpocketing in the digital age with a master of the craft, exploring a spectrum that spans from the classic pocket-wallet dip to the intricacies of credit card swipes and other forms of digital fraud that may leave you astonished—technology changes, as do the tactics of those seeking to exploit it.</p><h2><br></h2><h2><strong>Listen to part 2 (early and ad-free):</strong></h2><p><strong>Apple Podcast: </strong>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Patreon: </strong>https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Links:</strong></p><p>James Freedman: https://www.jamesfreedman.com/</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1637</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1405: The Pests part 5</title>
      <description>In this bonus episode, we pick up where we left off, diving into the events leading up to the much-anticipated August 24th contempt of court hearing involving Patrick Tomlinson.
In our previous episode, we shared the suspenseful build-up to this critical date, where Patrick faced potential jail time for failing to pay the legal fees of the opposing party. In our last interview. Patrick had made it clear that he had no intention of making the required payment.
So, what happened on August 24th contempt of court hearing? Patrick showed up with his attorney, and so did one of his relentless tormentors, Dan Mullen, who shared his account of a tense courtroom encounter.
Intriguingly, Patrick filed a motion just days before the hearing, outlining his demands to the court. He requested a postponement and a closed, private hearing held over video conferencing due to safety concerns. This was in response to online chatter suggesting some of his foes planned to attend in person.
But the drama didn't end there. Patrick made a bold claim in his motion, alleging the identity of his online nemesis, "quasi101," and hinting at a familial connection to a federal judge, all without providing any evidence.
However, the outcome of the hearing surprised many. Both sides agreed on a payment, and Patrick paid the court-ordered debt, amounting to $32,709.80, satisfying this particular legal obligation.
The big question now: Does this payment signify a truce in this long-standing online feud?
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Pests part 5</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>14</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this bonus episode, we pick up where we left off, diving into the events leading up to the much-anticipated August 24th contempt of court hearing involving Patrick Tomlinson.
In our previous episode, we shared the suspenseful build-up to this critical date, where Patrick faced potential jail time for failing to pay the legal fees of the opposing party. In our last interview. Patrick had made it clear that he had no intention of making the required payment.
So, what happened on August 24th contempt of court hearing? Patrick showed up with his attorney, and so did one of his relentless tormentors, Dan Mullen, who shared his account of a tense courtroom encounter.
Intriguingly, Patrick filed a motion just days before the hearing, outlining his demands to the court. He requested a postponement and a closed, private hearing held over video conferencing due to safety concerns. This was in response to online chatter suggesting some of his foes planned to attend in person.
But the drama didn't end there. Patrick made a bold claim in his motion, alleging the identity of his online nemesis, "quasi101," and hinting at a familial connection to a federal judge, all without providing any evidence.
However, the outcome of the hearing surprised many. Both sides agreed on a payment, and Patrick paid the court-ordered debt, amounting to $32,709.80, satisfying this particular legal obligation.
The big question now: Does this payment signify a truce in this long-standing online feud?
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this bonus episode, we pick up where we left off, diving into the events leading up to the much-anticipated August 24th contempt of court hearing involving Patrick Tomlinson.</p><p>In our previous episode, we shared the suspenseful build-up to this critical date, where Patrick faced potential jail time for failing to pay the legal fees of the opposing party. In our last interview. Patrick had made it clear that he had no intention of making the required payment.</p><p>So, what happened on August 24th contempt of court hearing? Patrick showed up with his attorney, and so did one of his relentless tormentors, Dan Mullen, who shared his account of a tense courtroom encounter.</p><p>Intriguingly, Patrick filed a motion just days before the hearing, outlining his demands to the court. He requested a postponement and a closed, private hearing held over video conferencing due to safety concerns. This was in response to online chatter suggesting some of his foes planned to attend in person.</p><p>But the drama didn't end there. Patrick made a bold claim in his motion, alleging the identity of his online nemesis, "quasi101," and hinting at a familial connection to a federal judge, all without providing any evidence.</p><p>However, the outcome of the hearing surprised many. Both sides agreed on a payment, and Patrick paid the court-ordered debt, amounting to $32,709.80, satisfying this particular legal obligation.</p><p>The big question now: Does this payment signify a truce in this long-standing online feud?</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>467</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Criminal Conduct Season 4 - Getting Away with Murder</title>
      <description>A mother's anguish resurfaces as her son's convicted killer is set free due to a jury verdict reversal by a judge. This is the story of Pravin Varughese.

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      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Criminal Conduct Season 4 - Getting Away with Murder</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>14</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>A mother's anguish resurfaces as her son's convicted killer is set free due to a jury verdict reversal by a judge. This is the story of Pravin Varughese.

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        <![CDATA[<p>A mother's anguish resurfaces as her son's convicted killer is set free due to a jury verdict reversal by a judge. This is the story of Pravin Varughese.</p><p><br></p><p>Binge all 9-episodes ad-free:</p><p><strong>Patreon:</strong> <a href="https://patreon.com/CriminalConductPodcast%20">https://patreon.com/CriminalConductPodcast </a></p><p><strong>PRETEND+ Apple Podcast:</strong> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1765</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1404: The Pests part 4</title>
      <description>There are always two sides to every story. In part 4, listen to my interview with the online forum administrator. We discuss the ongoing legal battle with Patrick Tomlinson and why Patrick may go to jail over this feud.

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      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Pests part 4</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>14</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>There are always two sides to every story. In part 4, listen to my interview with the online forum administrator. We discuss the ongoing legal battle with Patrick Tomlinson and why Patrick may go to jail over this feud.

_____________

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        <![CDATA[<p>There are always two sides to every story. In part 4, listen to my interview with the online forum administrator. We discuss the ongoing legal battle with Patrick Tomlinson and why Patrick may go to jail over this feud.</p><p><br></p><p>_____________</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Binge all 9-episodes of CRIMINAL CONDUCT ad-free:</strong></p><p><strong>Patreon: </strong>https://patreon.com/CriminalConductPodcast</p><p><strong>PRETEND+ Apple Podcast: </strong>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3179</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1403: The Pests part 3</title>
      <description>WARNING: This episode contains language and disturbing content. Listener discretion is advised.

Sci-Fi Writer Patrick Tomlinson Loses Harassment Lawsuit Against Online Forum, Faces Hefty Legal Fees
Patrick Tomlinson, known for his imaginative works in the science fiction genre, took a stand against the onaforum's vicious gangstalking attacks, hoping to end the torment he endured for over five years. However, the court ruled against him, leaving him without the justice he sought and burdened with paying the site owner's legal fees.

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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Aug 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Pest part 3</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>14</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>WARNING: This episode contains language and disturbing content. Listener discretion is advised.

Sci-Fi Writer Patrick Tomlinson Loses Harassment Lawsuit Against Online Forum, Faces Hefty Legal Fees
Patrick Tomlinson, known for his imaginative works in the science fiction genre, took a stand against the onaforum's vicious gangstalking attacks, hoping to end the torment he endured for over five years. However, the court ruled against him, leaving him without the justice he sought and burdened with paying the site owner's legal fees.

Listen to all 4 episodes early and ad-free:
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        <![CDATA[<h3><em>WARNING: This episode contains language and disturbing content. Listener discretion is advised.</em></h3><p><br></p><h3><strong>Sci-Fi Writer Patrick Tomlinson Loses Harassment Lawsuit Against Online Forum, Faces Hefty Legal Fees</strong></h3><p>Patrick Tomlinson, known for his imaginative works in the science fiction genre, took a stand against the onaforum's vicious gangstalking attacks, hoping to end the torment he endured for over five years. However, the court ruled against him, leaving him without the justice he sought and burdened with paying the site owner's legal fees.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Listen to all 4 episodes early and ad-free:</strong></p><p><strong>PATREON:</strong> https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio</p><p><strong>PRETEND+ </strong>(Apple Podcast): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2058</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1402: The Pests part 2</title>
      <description>WARNING: This episode contains language and disturbing content. Listener discretion is advised. 

Police Storm Sci-fi Writer's Home 42 Times in "Swatting" Campaign
Wisconsin science fiction author Patrick Tomlinson and his wife have been living a nightmare, enduring years of terror as cyber stalkers repeatedly sent police to their doorstep in a relentless "swatting" campaign. The couple, who claim to have experienced this terrifying ordeal 42 times, describes the chilling encounters with officers storming their home with guns drawn, handcuffing Tomlinson in his front yard, and even alleging that he had killed his wife. The reason for this campaign of terror, they say, stems from a trivial online criticism of the late comedian Norm Macdonald, leading to a series of threatening messages encouraging the author to take his own life.

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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Aug 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Pests part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>14</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>WARNING: This episode contains language and disturbing content. Listener discretion is advised. 

Police Storm Sci-fi Writer's Home 42 Times in "Swatting" Campaign
Wisconsin science fiction author Patrick Tomlinson and his wife have been living a nightmare, enduring years of terror as cyber stalkers repeatedly sent police to their doorstep in a relentless "swatting" campaign. The couple, who claim to have experienced this terrifying ordeal 42 times, describes the chilling encounters with officers storming their home with guns drawn, handcuffing Tomlinson in his front yard, and even alleging that he had killed his wife. The reason for this campaign of terror, they say, stems from a trivial online criticism of the late comedian Norm Macdonald, leading to a series of threatening messages encouraging the author to take his own life.

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        <![CDATA[<h3><strong><em>WARNING: This episode contains language and disturbing content. Listener discretion is advised. </em></strong></h3><p><br></p><h3><strong>Police Storm Sci-fi Writer's Home 42 Times in "Swatting" Campaign</strong></h3><p>Wisconsin science fiction author Patrick Tomlinson and his wife have been living a nightmare, enduring years of terror as cyber stalkers repeatedly sent police to their doorstep in a relentless "swatting" campaign. The couple, who claim to have experienced this terrifying ordeal 42 times, describes the chilling encounters with officers storming their home with guns drawn, handcuffing Tomlinson in his front yard, and even alleging that he had killed his wife. The reason for this campaign of terror, they say, stems from a trivial online criticism of the late comedian Norm Macdonald, leading to a series of threatening messages encouraging the author to take his own life.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Listen to all 4 episodes early and ad-free:</strong></p><p><strong>PATREON:</strong> https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio</p><p><strong>PRETEND+ </strong>(Apple Podcast): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985</p><p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1862</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1401: The Pests part 1 (Gang stalking)</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>WARNING: This episode contains language and disturbing content. Listener discretion is advised. 

Wisconsin Author Faces Cyberstalking Nightmare After Tweeting that Norm MacDonald Isn't Funny.

Wisconsin science fiction author Patrick Tomlinson and his wife have been living in fear for years, enduring a relentless campaign of terror orchestrated by cyberstalkers, all stemming from a seemingly innocuous tweet about the late comedian Norm Macdonald. Tomlinson's criticism of the "Saturday Night Live" comic as not funny ignited a firestorm of online harassment, including threatening emails, voice messages, and disturbing Reddit posts urging him to harm himself.

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      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Aug 2023 15:59:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Pests part 1 (gang stalking)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>14</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/27a9d4a0-d554-11ed-b197-138dc259aabf/image/8d01c1.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>WARNING: This episode contains language and disturbing content. Listener discretion is advised. 

Wisconsin Author Faces Cyberstalking Nightmare After Tweeting that Norm MacDonald Isn't Funny.

Wisconsin science fiction author Patrick Tomlinson and his wife have been living in fear for years, enduring a relentless campaign of terror orchestrated by cyberstalkers, all stemming from a seemingly innocuous tweet about the late comedian Norm Macdonald. Tomlinson's criticism of the "Saturday Night Live" comic as not funny ignited a firestorm of online harassment, including threatening emails, voice messages, and disturbing Reddit posts urging him to harm himself.

Listen to all 4 episodes early and ad-free:
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong><em>WARNING: This episode contains language and disturbing content. Listener discretion is advised. </em></strong></p><p><br></p><h1>Wisconsin Author Faces Cyberstalking Nightmare After Tweeting that Norm MacDonald Isn't Funny.</h1><p><br></p><p>Wisconsin science fiction author Patrick Tomlinson and his wife have been living in fear for years, enduring a relentless campaign of terror orchestrated by cyberstalkers, all stemming from a seemingly innocuous tweet about the late comedian Norm Macdonald. Tomlinson's criticism of the "Saturday Night Live" comic as not funny ignited a firestorm of online harassment, including threatening emails, voice messages, and disturbing Reddit posts urging him to harm himself.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Listen to all 4 episodes early and ad-free:</strong></p><p><strong>PATREON:</strong> https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio</p><p><strong>PRETEND+ </strong>(Apple Podcast): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985</p><p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1987</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1311: The Stalker - Interview with the Doctor (part 16)</title>
      <description>This is the episode you've been waiting for!
While we've primarily heard from Tanya and Rick Fernandez's perspective, it's time to introduce you to a key figure in this fascinating case: Dr. Grace Gressman (not her real name). As a central player, Dr. Gressman holds valuable insights into the stalker's actions. What is her connection to the Fernandez family? What does she have to say about the mysterious messages? 
In today's episode, we finally hear Dr. Gressman's story.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stalker - Interview with the Doctor (part 15)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>13</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This is the episode you've been waiting for!
While we've primarily heard from Tanya and Rick Fernandez's perspective, it's time to introduce you to a key figure in this fascinating case: Dr. Grace Gressman (not her real name). As a central player, Dr. Gressman holds valuable insights into the stalker's actions. What is her connection to the Fernandez family? What does she have to say about the mysterious messages? 
In today's episode, we finally hear Dr. Gressman's story.
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        <![CDATA[<p>This is the episode you've been waiting for!</p><p>While we've primarily heard from Tanya and Rick Fernandez's perspective, it's time to introduce you to a key figure in this fascinating case: Dr. Grace Gressman (not her real name). As a central player, Dr. Gressman holds valuable insights into the stalker's actions. What is her connection to the Fernandez family? What does she have to say about the mysterious messages? </p><p>In today's episode, we finally hear Dr. Gressman's story.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1907</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1310: Love and Taxes (plus Stalker update)</title>
      <description>The IRS knocked on John Coutu's door, demanding $80,000.
Jennifer Mitchell, his girlfriend, offered to handle John's taxes. At first glance, it seemed like a simple act of love. Little did he know that this act of goodwill would lead him down a treacherous path of deception and impersonation.
Unbeknownst to John, Jennifer never actually filed his taxes and instead fabricated an elaborate web of lies. She even went as far as impersonating the IRS to fool John into believing everything was in order. But John's story doesn't end there. As he bravely speaks out, it becomes evident that Jennifer's peculiar scam has also ensnared others.
Today, we explore the complexity between love and taxes.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Jul 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Love and Taxes (plus Stalker update)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>13</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>The IRS knocked on John Coutu's door, demanding $80,000.
Jennifer Mitchell, his girlfriend, offered to handle John's taxes. At first glance, it seemed like a simple act of love. Little did he know that this act of goodwill would lead him down a treacherous path of deception and impersonation.
Unbeknownst to John, Jennifer never actually filed his taxes and instead fabricated an elaborate web of lies. She even went as far as impersonating the IRS to fool John into believing everything was in order. But John's story doesn't end there. As he bravely speaks out, it becomes evident that Jennifer's peculiar scam has also ensnared others.
Today, we explore the complexity between love and taxes.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The IRS knocked on John Coutu's door, demanding $80,000.</p><p>Jennifer Mitchell, his girlfriend, offered to handle John's taxes. At first glance, it seemed like a simple act of love. Little did he know that this act of goodwill would lead him down a treacherous path of deception and impersonation.</p><p>Unbeknownst to John, Jennifer never actually filed his taxes and instead fabricated an elaborate web of lies. She even went as far as impersonating the IRS to fool John into believing everything was in order. But John's story doesn't end there. As he bravely speaks out, it becomes evident that Jennifer's peculiar scam has also ensnared others.</p><p>Today, we explore the complexity between love and taxes.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2507</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1309: The Pale-Faced Lie part 2</title>
      <description>Previously on PRETEND, we heard the story of David Crow and his criminal father, Thurston. In today's episode, we delve deeper into "The Pale-Faced Lie," a memoir about growing up as his father's accomplice. 
David's father, Thurston Crow, lived a life of crime: stealing, lying, and killing anyone who stood in his way. And right beside him, the whole time, was his young son David. In this episode, hear David's story of overcoming a life of crime and trying to understand why the one person he trusted most in the world took advantage of him.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Pale Face Lie part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>13</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Previously on PRETEND, we heard the story of David Crow and his criminal father, Thurston. In today's episode, we delve deeper into "The Pale-Faced Lie," a memoir about growing up as his father's accomplice. 
David's father, Thurston Crow, lived a life of crime: stealing, lying, and killing anyone who stood in his way. And right beside him, the whole time, was his young son David. In this episode, hear David's story of overcoming a life of crime and trying to understand why the one person he trusted most in the world took advantage of him.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Previously on PRETEND, we heard the story of David Crow and his criminal father, Thurston. In today's episode, we delve deeper into "The Pale-Faced Lie," a memoir about growing up as his father's accomplice. </p><p>David's father, Thurston Crow, lived a life of crime: stealing, lying, and killing anyone who stood in his way. And right beside him, the whole time, was his young son David. In this episode, hear David's story of overcoming a life of crime and trying to understand why the one person he trusted most in the world took advantage of him.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1176</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1308: The Pale-Faced Lie part 1</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org</link>
      <description>David Crow says he was his father's criminal accomplice.

In today's episode, we delve into the extraordinary story of David Crow, author of the book titled "The Pale-Faced Lie." It's the story of a father and son entangled in a life of crime.

David recounts his experiences as his father's criminal accomplice, always by his side. And what it was like growing up with a violent and convicted felon who used the Native American reservation as a refuge to evade his enemies.

This episode is the story of a young boy grappling with his place in the world, torn between his father's influence and his desire for a different path.

The Pale-Faced Lie part 2 is now available on PATREON and PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Pale-Faced Lie part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>13</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>David Crow says he was his father's criminal accomplice.

In today's episode, we delve into the extraordinary story of David Crow, author of the book titled "The Pale-Faced Lie." It's the story of a father and son entangled in a life of crime.

David recounts his experiences as his father's criminal accomplice, always by his side. And what it was like growing up with a violent and convicted felon who used the Native American reservation as a refuge to evade his enemies.

This episode is the story of a young boy grappling with his place in the world, torn between his father's influence and his desire for a different path.

The Pale-Faced Lie part 2 is now available on PATREON and PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>David Crow says he was his father's criminal accomplice.</p><p><br></p><p>In today's episode, we delve into the extraordinary story of David Crow, author of the book titled "The Pale-Faced Lie." It's the story of a father and son entangled in a life of crime.</p><p><br></p><p>David recounts his experiences as his father's criminal accomplice, always by his side. And what it was like growing up with a violent and convicted felon who used the Native American reservation as a refuge to evade his enemies.</p><p><br></p><p>This episode is the story of a young boy grappling with his place in the world, torn between his father's influence and his desire for a different path.</p><p><br></p><p>The Pale-Faced Lie part 2 is now available on PATREON and PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1767</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1307: The Stalker - Fly on the Wall (part 15)</title>
      <description>Imagine being a fly on the wall at the Fernandez house. What are they like? What do they talk about? Who in that house is capable of sending such disgusting messages?
If only we could talk to someone who lived with them. 
Last week, out of the blue, Brittni Stone reached out to me because she lived with the Fernandez family for five years. She has a lot to say about the Stalker series. But maybe her insights can lead us closer to the truth. 
Plus, hear the latest on the trial. Has the state offered Tanya and Rick a plea deal? 
Listen to the latest bonus episode of The Stalker, then post your reaction on Patreon, Twitter, Facebook, or Instagram.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 30 May 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stalker - Fly on the Wall (part 15)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>13</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Imagine being a fly on the wall at the Fernandez house. What are they like? What do they talk about? Who in that house is capable of sending such disgusting messages?
If only we could talk to someone who lived with them. 
Last week, out of the blue, Brittni Stone reached out to me because she lived with the Fernandez family for five years. She has a lot to say about the Stalker series. But maybe her insights can lead us closer to the truth. 
Plus, hear the latest on the trial. Has the state offered Tanya and Rick a plea deal? 
Listen to the latest bonus episode of The Stalker, then post your reaction on Patreon, Twitter, Facebook, or Instagram.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Imagine being a fly on the wall at the Fernandez house. What are they like? What do they talk about? Who in that house is capable of sending such disgusting messages?</p><p>If only we could talk to someone who lived with them. </p><p>Last week, out of the blue, Brittni Stone reached out to me because she lived with the Fernandez family for five years. She has a lot to say about the Stalker series. But maybe her insights can lead us closer to the truth. </p><p>Plus, hear the latest on the trial. Has the state offered Tanya and Rick a plea deal? </p><p>Listen to the latest bonus episode of The Stalker, then post your reaction on Patreon, Twitter, Facebook, or Instagram.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>3676</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>George Santos &amp; The Harbor City Capital Ponzi Scheme (THE PONZI PLAYBOOK)</title>
      <link>https://linktr.ee/ponziplaybook</link>
      <description>The Ponzi Playbook: 
Welcome to The Ponzi Playbook, the podcast that exposes the dark underbelly of the financial world. Join hosts Neal McTighe and Javier Leiva as they take you on a journey through the seedy world of financial fraud, exploring the twisted minds of the people behind some of the most audacious Ponzi schemes in history.

Episode 1 Description:
We peel back the layers of the Harbor City Capital Ponzi scheme, exposing the deceptive tactics orchestrated by Jonathan Paul Maroney and shedding light on the involvement of George Santos. In this episode, we delve deep into the intricate workings of the scheme, where enticing promises of remarkable returns through internet advertising conceal a web of deceit.

The first two episodes are available right now. Download wherever you get your podcasts
https://linktr.ee/ponziplaybook
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2023 07:29:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>George Santos &amp; The Harbor City Capital Ponzi Scheme (THE PONZI PLAYBOOK)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>13</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/26bb7a08-d554-11ed-b197-1b5118c0f59e/image/1d0f6c.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>The Ponzi Playbook - New podcast from Javier Leiva and Neal McTighe</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The Ponzi Playbook: 
Welcome to The Ponzi Playbook, the podcast that exposes the dark underbelly of the financial world. Join hosts Neal McTighe and Javier Leiva as they take you on a journey through the seedy world of financial fraud, exploring the twisted minds of the people behind some of the most audacious Ponzi schemes in history.

Episode 1 Description:
We peel back the layers of the Harbor City Capital Ponzi scheme, exposing the deceptive tactics orchestrated by Jonathan Paul Maroney and shedding light on the involvement of George Santos. In this episode, we delve deep into the intricate workings of the scheme, where enticing promises of remarkable returns through internet advertising conceal a web of deceit.

The first two episodes are available right now. Download wherever you get your podcasts
https://linktr.ee/ponziplaybook
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p><strong>The Ponzi Playbook: </strong></p><p>Welcome to The Ponzi Playbook, the podcast that exposes the dark underbelly of the financial world. Join hosts Neal McTighe and Javier Leiva as they take you on a journey through the seedy world of financial fraud, exploring the twisted minds of the people behind some of the most audacious Ponzi schemes in history.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Episode 1 Description:</strong></p><p>We peel back the layers of the Harbor City Capital Ponzi scheme, exposing the deceptive tactics orchestrated by Jonathan Paul Maroney and shedding light on the involvement of George Santos. In this episode, we delve deep into the intricate workings of the scheme, where enticing promises of remarkable returns through internet advertising conceal a web of deceit.</p><p><br></p><p>The first two episodes are available right now. Download wherever you get your podcasts</p><p>https://linktr.ee/ponziplaybook</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2475</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1305: The Stalker - In Time You'll Get the Truth (part 14)</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>This podcast series on the stalker case has captured the attention of many listeners, making it one of the most talked-about series on PRETEND. Some listeners have even listened to it multiple times, hoping to find some clue or slip-up that could help them solve the mystery.
Listeners are clamoring for more updates. But it's important to note that this type of investigation takes time, and it took me two years to report on this story. The series ended with Tanya and Rick Fernandez being indicted by a grand jury on computer tampering charges and aggravated harassment.
Initially, I wasn't sure if the case would even make it to trial. I expected Tanya and Rick to plead guilty and accept a lighter sentence. However, that has yet to happen.
In this episode, I will provide an update on where the trial stands and share some interviews I recorded with Tanya and Rick that were not included in the original series. While these interviews didn't align with the story's central plot at the time, they shed some light on the type of drama surrounding this case.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 May 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stalker - In Time You'll Get the Truth (part 14)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>13</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/26a42ba0-d554-11ed-b197-87534893fd67/image/c1ea62.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This podcast series on the stalker case has captured the attention of many listeners, making it one of the most talked-about series on PRETEND. Some listeners have even listened to it multiple times, hoping to find some clue or slip-up that could help them solve the mystery.
Listeners are clamoring for more updates. But it's important to note that this type of investigation takes time, and it took me two years to report on this story. The series ended with Tanya and Rick Fernandez being indicted by a grand jury on computer tampering charges and aggravated harassment.
Initially, I wasn't sure if the case would even make it to trial. I expected Tanya and Rick to plead guilty and accept a lighter sentence. However, that has yet to happen.
In this episode, I will provide an update on where the trial stands and share some interviews I recorded with Tanya and Rick that were not included in the original series. While these interviews didn't align with the story's central plot at the time, they shed some light on the type of drama surrounding this case.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This podcast series on the stalker case has captured the attention of many listeners, making it one of the most talked-about series on PRETEND. Some listeners have even listened to it multiple times, hoping to find some clue or slip-up that could help them solve the mystery.</p><p>Listeners are clamoring for more updates. But it's important to note that this type of investigation takes time, and it took me two years to report on this story. The series ended with Tanya and Rick Fernandez being indicted by a grand jury on computer tampering charges and aggravated harassment.</p><p>Initially, I wasn't sure if the case would even make it to trial. I expected Tanya and Rick to plead guilty and accept a lighter sentence. However, that has yet to happen.</p><p>In this episode, I will provide an update on where the trial stands and share some interviews I recorded with Tanya and Rick that were not included in the original series. While these interviews didn't align with the story's central plot at the time, they shed some light on the type of drama surrounding this case.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>1106</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1304: The Cuban Spy part 2</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/episode/the-unraveling-o…cuban-spy-part-2/</link>
      <description>How Ana Montes' Family Ties Unraveled the Cuban Spy Plot Against the U.S.

When the lights of the Pentagon dimmed and the rest of D.C. settled into the night, Ana Montes began her covert dance as a Cuban spy. But after 17 years in this dangerous tango, her own bloodline played an unexpected role in her downfall. Dive in as we delve deeper into the captivating world of espionage, loyalty, and unexpected betrayals.
 
From Shadows to Spotlight: The Unraveling of Ana Montes, the Cuban Spy
Hidden within the Pentagon's vast maze, Ana Montes expertly spun her web of secrets for Cuba. Yet, as with all intricate schemes, the threads began to loosen. Over 17 covert years, her dance with deception went unnoticed, but even the best-laid plots have their breaking point. Venture with us into the moment it all came undone.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2023 12:02:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Cuban Spy part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>13</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/268b9df6-d554-11ed-b197-ff320e1f7a7f/image/4d8fc5.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>How Ana Montes' Family Ties Unraveled the Cuban Spy Plot Against the U.S.

When the lights of the Pentagon dimmed and the rest of D.C. settled into the night, Ana Montes began her covert dance as a Cuban spy. But after 17 years in this dangerous tango, her own bloodline played an unexpected role in her downfall. Dive in as we delve deeper into the captivating world of espionage, loyalty, and unexpected betrayals.
 
From Shadows to Spotlight: The Unraveling of Ana Montes, the Cuban Spy
Hidden within the Pentagon's vast maze, Ana Montes expertly spun her web of secrets for Cuba. Yet, as with all intricate schemes, the threads began to loosen. Over 17 covert years, her dance with deception went unnoticed, but even the best-laid plots have their breaking point. Venture with us into the moment it all came undone.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<h2><strong>How Ana Montes' Family Ties Unraveled the Cuban Spy Plot Against the U.S.</strong></h2><p><br></p><h3>When the lights of the Pentagon dimmed and the rest of D.C. settled into the night, Ana Montes began her covert dance as a Cuban spy. But after 17 years in this dangerous tango, her own bloodline played an unexpected role in her downfall. Dive in as we delve deeper into the captivating world of espionage, loyalty, and unexpected betrayals.</h3><p> </p><h2><strong>From Shadows to Spotlight: The Unraveling of Ana Montes, the Cuban Spy</strong></h2><p>Hidden within the Pentagon's vast maze, Ana Montes expertly spun her web of secrets for Cuba. Yet, as with all intricate schemes, the threads began to loosen. Over 17 covert years, her dance with deception went unnoticed, but even the best-laid plots have their breaking point. Venture with us into the moment it all came undone.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>1773</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1303: The Cuban Spy part 1</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>You've probably never heard the name Ana Montes because the FBI arrested her just ten days after 9/11. "Ana Montes, I believe, was one of the most dangerous American spies, period. And I would argue, the most dangerous female spy." - Jim Popkin is a long-time journalist and author of "Codename Blue Wren," the story of Ana Montes, the Cuban Spy.

Ana Belen Montes spied on the US for Cuba for 17 years. Find out what made her so dangerous and how she spied on the Cubans from within the US intelligence community.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Cuban Spy part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>13</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>You've probably never heard the name Ana Montes because the FBI arrested her just ten days after 9/11. "Ana Montes, I believe, was one of the most dangerous American spies, period. And I would argue, the most dangerous female spy." - Jim Popkin is a long-time journalist and author of "Codename Blue Wren," the story of Ana Montes, the Cuban Spy.

Ana Belen Montes spied on the US for Cuba for 17 years. Find out what made her so dangerous and how she spied on the Cubans from within the US intelligence community.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>You've probably never heard the name Ana Montes because the FBI arrested her just ten days after 9/11. "Ana Montes, I believe, was one of the most dangerous American spies, period. And I would argue, the most dangerous female spy." - Jim Popkin is a long-time journalist and author of "<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Code-Name-Blue-Wren-Dangerous/dp/1335449884">Codename Blue Wren</a>," the story of Ana Montes, the Cuban Spy.</p><p><br></p><p>Ana Belen Montes spied on the US for Cuba for 17 years. Find out what made her so dangerous and how she spied on the Cubans from within the US intelligence community.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1880</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1302: The Real Catch Me If You Can - The Promissory Note </title>
      <description>Virginia Morris, a retired real estate agent from Houston, Texas, doesn't want me to use her real name. She claims Frank Abagnale scammed her out of $20,000 through a bogus investment scheme. Virginia spent years suing Abagnale, trying to recover her money. However, she was unsuccessful. Abagnale ignored the court summons and failed to appear in court.
So, Virginia did what anyone who lost more than $20,000 would do. She showed up at one of Frank Abagnale's speaking events and confronted him.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Real Catch Me If You Can - The Promissory Note </itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>13</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Virginia Morris, a retired real estate agent from Houston, Texas, doesn't want me to use her real name. She claims Frank Abagnale scammed her out of $20,000 through a bogus investment scheme. Virginia spent years suing Abagnale, trying to recover her money. However, she was unsuccessful. Abagnale ignored the court summons and failed to appear in court.
So, Virginia did what anyone who lost more than $20,000 would do. She showed up at one of Frank Abagnale's speaking events and confronted him.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Virginia Morris, a retired real estate agent from Houston, Texas, doesn't want me to use her real name. She claims Frank Abagnale scammed her out of $20,000 through a bogus investment scheme. Virginia spent years suing Abagnale, trying to recover her money. However, she was unsuccessful. Abagnale ignored the court summons and failed to appear in court.</p><p>So, Virginia did what anyone who lost more than <strong>$20,000</strong> would do. She showed up at one of Frank Abagnale's speaking events and confronted him.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1200</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1301: The Real Catch Me If You Can part 9 (update)</title>
      <description>Frank is Back!
This update episode is loaded with new allegations and never-before-told capers. Like the time Frank Abagnale:

Impersonated a cop with a paper badge and a toy gun.

Posed as a pilot to work at a preschool

Took a group of teachers on an "all-expense paid" trip to Puerto Rico


Abagnale's true life story is featured in the New York Post.
Frank Abagnale is getting national attention. Just this month, the New York Post published an article citing an 87-page file of old newspaper clippings, court documents, and letters — from airlines, university officials, government sources, and others. Here's a link to the article written by Abby Ellin.

Abagnale featured in STR8DADVIBES
We end the episode with a song inspired by my 'Real Catch Me If You Can' Series.
STR8 DAD VIBES by KENDONTCRY
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      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Apr 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Real Catch Me If You Can part 9 (update)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>13</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Frank is Back!
This update episode is loaded with new allegations and never-before-told capers. Like the time Frank Abagnale:

Impersonated a cop with a paper badge and a toy gun.

Posed as a pilot to work at a preschool

Took a group of teachers on an "all-expense paid" trip to Puerto Rico


Abagnale's true life story is featured in the New York Post.
Frank Abagnale is getting national attention. Just this month, the New York Post published an article citing an 87-page file of old newspaper clippings, court documents, and letters — from airlines, university officials, government sources, and others. Here's a link to the article written by Abby Ellin.

Abagnale featured in STR8DADVIBES
We end the episode with a song inspired by my 'Real Catch Me If You Can' Series.
STR8 DAD VIBES by KENDONTCRY
Follow Pretend on social media:
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PRETEND is consistently in the top True Crime Podcasts about con artists in U.S., UK, Canada, and Australia.
It has been featured in the New York Times, the BBC, &amp; Netflix.
To advertise on our podcast, please reach out to sales@advertisecast.com or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/Pretend  and https://www.advertisecast.com/CriminalConduct
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        <![CDATA[<p>Frank is Back!</p><p>This update episode is loaded with new allegations and never-before-told capers. Like the time Frank Abagnale:</p><ul>
<li>Impersonated a cop with a paper badge and a toy gun.</li>
<li>Posed as a pilot to work at a preschool</li>
<li>Took a group of teachers on an "all-expense paid" trip to Puerto Rico</li>
</ul><p><br></p><h3>Abagnale's true life story is featured in the New York Post.</h3><p>Frank Abagnale is getting national attention. Just this month, the New York Post published an article citing an 87-page file of old newspaper clippings, court documents, and letters — from airlines, university officials, government sources, and others. <a href="https://nypost.com/2023/03/13/catch-me-if-you-can-conman-frank-abagnale-lied-about-his-lies/">Here's a link</a> to the article written by Abby Ellin.</p><h3><br></h3><h3>Abagnale featured in STR8DADVIBES</h3><p>We end the episode with a song inspired by my 'Real Catch Me If You Can' Series.</p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/track/4w6HrvKYmoNJWfL09g8xRg?si=4ad1782ace1a417f">STR8 DAD VIBES</a> by KENDONTCRY</p><p><strong>Follow Pretend on social media:</strong></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/PretendPod">Twitter</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod">TikTok</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod">YouTube</a></p><p><a href="http://pretendradio.org/"><strong>PRETEND</strong></a><strong> is consistently in the top True Crime Podcasts about con artists in U.S., UK, Canada, and Australia.</strong></p><p><strong>It has been featured in the </strong><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/12/style/liars-catfishing-deception.html"><strong>New York Times</strong></a><strong>, the </strong><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48231388"><strong>BBC</strong></a><strong>, &amp; </strong><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81576846"><strong>Netflix</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><em>To advertise on our podcast, please reach out to </em><a href="mailto:sales@advertisecast.com"><em>sales@advertisecast.com</em></a><em> or visit </em><a href="https://www.advertisecast.com/Pretend">https://www.advertisecast.com/Pretend</a>  and <a href="https://www.advertisecast.com/CriminalConduct">https://www.advertisecast.com/CriminalConduct</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2993</itunes:duration>
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      <title>1215- The Proxy part 2</title>
      <description>In today's episode, we will talk about how to treat perpetrators of Munchausen by Proxy—if that's even possible. And also, what happens when you suspect a mother of abuse? Should you report it? And what happens if you get it wrong? We're going to get into it all of this. Plus, we'll talk about Hope Ybarra's downfall. 

Munchausen Support:
https://www.munchausensupport.com/resources/
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      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Apr 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Proxy part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>12</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In today's episode, we will talk about how to treat perpetrators of Munchausen by Proxy—if that's even possible. And also, what happens when you suspect a mother of abuse? Should you report it? And what happens if you get it wrong? We're going to get into it all of this. Plus, we'll talk about Hope Ybarra's downfall. 

Munchausen Support:
https://www.munchausensupport.com/resources/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In today's episode, we will talk about how to treat perpetrators of Munchausen by Proxy—if that's even possible. And also, what happens when you suspect a mother of abuse? Should you report it? And what happens if you get it wrong? We're going to get into it all of this. Plus, we'll talk about Hope Ybarra's downfall. </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Munchausen Support:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.munchausensupport.com/resources/">https://www.munchausensupport.com/resources/</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2113</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>1214- The Proxy part 1</title>
      <description>In today's episode, we'll discuss Munchausen by Proxy and how to identify it. And I'm not talking about scandalous stories like the ones you've seen on TV. In fact, we will focus on the less popular cases to show you that this form of abuse is far more common than we even realized. You may know someone who is a victim of Munchausen by proxy and not even realizes it.

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      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2023 12:56:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Proxy part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>12</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In today's episode, we'll discuss Munchausen by Proxy and how to identify it. And I'm not talking about scandalous stories like the ones you've seen on TV. In fact, we will focus on the less popular cases to show you that this form of abuse is far more common than we even realized. You may know someone who is a victim of Munchausen by proxy and not even realizes it.

Follow Pretend on social media:
Twitter

TikTok

YouTube

PRETEND is consistently in the top True Crime Podcasts about con artists in U.S., UK, Canada, and Australia. 

It has been featured in the New York Times, the BBC, &amp; Netflix.

To advertise on our podcast, please reach out to sales@advertisecast.com or visit  https://www.advertisecast.com/Pretend  and  https://www.advertisecast.com/CriminalConduct
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In today's episode, we'll discuss Munchausen by Proxy and how to identify it. And I'm not talking about scandalous stories like the ones you've seen on TV. In fact, we will focus on the less popular cases to show you that this form of abuse is far more common than we even realized. You may know someone who is a victim of Munchausen by proxy and not even realizes it.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Pretend on social media:</strong></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/PretendPod">Twitter</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod">TikTok</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod">YouTube</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://pretendradio.org"><strong>PRETEND</strong></a><strong> is consistently in the top True Crime Podcasts about con artists in U.S., UK, Canada, and Australia. </strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>It has been featured in the </strong><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/12/style/liars-catfishing-deception.html"><strong>New York Times</strong></a><strong>, the </strong><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48231388"><strong>BBC</strong></a><strong>, &amp; </strong><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81576846"><strong>Netflix</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><br></p><p><em>To advertise on our podcast, please reach out to </em><a href="mailto:sales@advertisecast.com"><em>sales@advertisecast.com</em></a><em> or visit  </em><a href="https://www.advertisecast.com/Pretend">https://www.advertisecast.com/Pretend</a>  and  <a href="https://www.advertisecast.com/CriminalConduct">https://www.advertisecast.com/CriminalConduct</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1853</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S1213: The Stalker part 13 (The Arraignment)</title>
      <description>Just when you thought this case couldn't get any crazier.
The night before the arraignment, Dr. Gressman's former patient, "Chelsea," starts badgering my followers on Instagram. The tone of her texts are eerily similar to the stalker. 
Then, Tanya goes on Facebook and makes a surprise announcement. To almost all of her friends' shock and surprise, she announced a new addition. Yes, you read correctly. The night before her court appearance, she let everyone know she was the mother of a brand new baby girl. Where did this child come from? 
Take a listen for yourself and keep the comments coming. 

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      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Mar 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stalker part 13 (The Arraignment)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>12</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Just when you thought this case couldn't get any crazier.
The night before the arraignment, Dr. Gressman's former patient, "Chelsea," starts badgering my followers on Instagram. The tone of her texts are eerily similar to the stalker. 
Then, Tanya goes on Facebook and makes a surprise announcement. To almost all of her friends' shock and surprise, she announced a new addition. Yes, you read correctly. The night before her court appearance, she let everyone know she was the mother of a brand new baby girl. Where did this child come from? 
Take a listen for yourself and keep the comments coming. 

Follow the conversation on Instagram @pretendpod:
https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/?hl=en
or on the PRETEND Facebook Group:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/pretendradio
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Just when you thought this case couldn't get any crazier.</p><p>The night before the arraignment, Dr. Gressman's former patient, "Chelsea," starts badgering my followers on Instagram. The tone of her texts are eerily similar to the stalker. </p><p>Then, Tanya goes on Facebook and makes a surprise announcement. To almost all of her friends' shock and surprise, she announced a new addition. Yes, you read correctly. The night before her court appearance, she let everyone know she was the mother of a brand new baby girl. Where did this child come from? </p><p>Take a listen for yourself and keep the comments coming. </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow the conversation on Instagram @pretendpod:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/?hl=en">https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/?hl=en</a></p><p><strong>or on the PRETEND Facebook Group:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/pretendradio">https://www.facebook.com/groups/pretendradio</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S1212: The Stalker part 12</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>Note: Tune in to the end of the episode for some breaking news on this case.
This series started as a whodunit about a menacing cyberstalker. But in reality, it turned into something else... something far more disturbing. We may all be witnessing medical child abuse in real-time. Munchausen by proxy is a disorder in which a caregiver intentionally causes or exaggerates the medical symptoms of someone in their care to seek attention or sympathy.

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      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2023 07:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stalker part 12</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>12</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Note: Tune in to the end of the episode for some breaking news on this case.
This series started as a whodunit about a menacing cyberstalker. But in reality, it turned into something else... something far more disturbing. We may all be witnessing medical child abuse in real-time. Munchausen by proxy is a disorder in which a caregiver intentionally causes or exaggerates the medical symptoms of someone in their care to seek attention or sympathy.

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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>Note: </strong>Tune in to the end of the episode for some breaking news on this case.</p><p>This series started as a whodunit about a menacing cyberstalker. But in reality, it turned into something else... something far more disturbing. We may all be witnessing medical child abuse in real-time. Munchausen by proxy is a disorder in which a caregiver intentionally causes or exaggerates the medical symptoms of someone in their care to seek attention or sympathy.</p><p><br></p><h1>BINGE ALL 13-EPISODES AD-FREE</h1><p><br></p><h2><strong>Patreon</strong></h2><p>Listen to the first 10 episodes. Plus...Get Member-only bonus episodes, t-shirts, stickers, and more.</p><p>Support PRETEND on Patreon</p><p><br></p><h2><strong>PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</strong></h2><p>Binge the entire season with ad-free episodes plus bonus interviews that didn't make it on the show</p><p>Subscribe to PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</p><p><br></p><h2><strong>Follow Pretend on social media:</strong></h2><p><a href="https://twitter.com/PretendPod">Twitter</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod">TikTok</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod">YouTube</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://pretendradio.org"><strong>PRETEND</strong></a><strong> is consistently in the top True Crime Podcasts about con artists in U.S., UK, Canada, and Australia. </strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>It has been featured in the </strong><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/12/style/liars-catfishing-deception.html"><strong>New York Times</strong></a><strong>, the </strong><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48231388"><strong>BBC</strong></a><strong>, &amp; </strong><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81576846"><strong>Netflix</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><br></p><p><em>To advertise on our podcast, please reach out to </em><a href="mailto:sales@advertisecast.com"><em>sales@advertisecast.com</em></a><em> or visit  </em><a href="https://www.advertisecast.com/Pretend">https://www.advertisecast.com/Pretend</a>  and  <a href="https://www.advertisecast.com/CriminalConduct">https://www.advertisecast.com/CriminalConduct</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S1211: The Stalker part 11</title>
      <description>In this week's episode, we investigate who may be responsible for the harassing messages sent to the Rodriguez family. The postal inspector and the detectives assigned to the case have their sights set on the oldest daughter, Logan, but at this time, there are no official suspects, and no one has been charged.

One thing we can say for sure is that there is no evidence that Dr. Gressman or the husband is involved in any way. Whoever is behind these messages is someone living inside the Rodriguez family's house.

It's also worth noting that the Instagram accounts used by the stalker were created using the Rodriguez's IP address and were created before their disabled adult daughter, Chelsea, ever became a patient of Dr. Gressman. With seven people living in that house, there are six possible suspects. In today's episode, we'll be narrowing it down to two.

This podcast contains explicit language and mature content that may not be suitable for children.

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      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Mar 2023 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stalker part 11</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this week's episode, we investigate who may be responsible for the harassing messages sent to the Rodriguez family. The postal inspector and the detectives assigned to the case have their sights set on the oldest daughter, Logan, but at this time, there are no official suspects, and no one has been charged.

One thing we can say for sure is that there is no evidence that Dr. Gressman or the husband is involved in any way. Whoever is behind these messages is someone living inside the Rodriguez family's house.

It's also worth noting that the Instagram accounts used by the stalker were created using the Rodriguez's IP address and were created before their disabled adult daughter, Chelsea, ever became a patient of Dr. Gressman. With seven people living in that house, there are six possible suspects. In today's episode, we'll be narrowing it down to two.

This podcast contains explicit language and mature content that may not be suitable for children.

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        <![CDATA[<p>In this week's episode, we investigate who may be responsible for the harassing messages sent to the Rodriguez family. The postal inspector and the detectives assigned to the case have their sights set on the oldest daughter, Logan, but at this time, there are no official suspects, and no one has been charged.</p><p><br></p><p>One thing we can say for sure is that there is no evidence that Dr. Gressman or the husband is involved in any way. Whoever is behind these messages is someone living inside the Rodriguez family's house.</p><p><br></p><p>It's also worth noting that the Instagram accounts used by the stalker were created using the Rodriguez's IP address and were created before their disabled adult daughter, Chelsea, ever became a patient of Dr. Gressman. With seven people living in that house, there are six possible suspects. In today's episode, we'll be narrowing it down to two.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>This podcast contains explicit language and mature content that may not be suitable for children.</strong></p><p><br></p><h1>BINGE ALL 13-EPISODES</h1><p><strong>Patreon</strong></p><p>Listen to the entire season. Plus...Get Member-only bonus episodes, t-shirts, stickers, and more.</p><p>Support PRETEND on Patreon</p><p><br></p><p><strong>PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</strong></p><p>Binge the entire season with ad-free episodes plus bonus interviews that didn't make it on the show</p><p>Subscribe to PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Pretend on social media:</strong></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/PretendPod">Twitter</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod">TikTok</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod">YouTube</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://pretendradio.org"><strong>PRETEND</strong></a><strong> is consistently in the top True Crime Podcasts about con artists in U.S., UK, Canada, and Australia. </strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>It has been featured in the </strong><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/12/style/liars-catfishing-deception.html"><strong>New York Times</strong></a><strong>, the </strong><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48231388"><strong>BBC</strong></a><strong>, &amp; </strong><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81576846"><strong>Netflix</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><br></p><p><em>To advertise on our podcast, please reach out to </em><a href="mailto:sales@advertisecast.com"><em>sales@advertisecast.com</em></a><em> or visit  </em><a href="https://www.advertisecast.com/Pretend">https://www.advertisecast.com/Pretend</a>  and  <a href="https://www.advertisecast.com/CriminalConduct">https://www.advertisecast.com/CriminalConduct</a></p><p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S1210: The Stalker part 10</title>
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      <description>Examining the Evidence: Is Someone in the Rodriguez House Responsible for the Stalking?

As the investigation into the cyberstalking of the Rodriguez family continues, new information has come to light about the possible culprit. To uncover potential leads, an ethical hacker was brought on to investigate all parties involved in the case, including the alleged stalker, Dr. Grace Gressman, and her husband, John. After a thorough search, it was determined that both the doctor and her husband had no unusual internet activity and were unlikely to be the stalker.

However, when the hacker turned their attention to the Rodriguez family, they found something curious. Logan, the oldest adult child of Claudia and David Rodriguez, had 5 active devices. Mishaal Khan, a cyber-security expert, says, "While it may be normal for someone of Logan's age to have multiple devices, it is unusual for someone to have so many." Naturally, this raised some suspicions, but no concrete evidence was found to pinpoint a suspect.

At this point, it is clear that John Gressman cannot be the stalker. But with the investigation at a standstill, questions remain about who is behind the threatening messages. Is it possible that Claudia is orchestrating the Stalking herself to gain attention? Could it be her husband, David, or one of their adult children? These questions will be explored in today's episode as the PRETEND host interviews Logan to learn more about her multiple devices.

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      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Mar 2023 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stalker part 10</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>12</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Examining the Evidence: Is Someone in the Rodriguez House Responsible for the Stalking?

As the investigation into the cyberstalking of the Rodriguez family continues, new information has come to light about the possible culprit. To uncover potential leads, an ethical hacker was brought on to investigate all parties involved in the case, including the alleged stalker, Dr. Grace Gressman, and her husband, John. After a thorough search, it was determined that both the doctor and her husband had no unusual internet activity and were unlikely to be the stalker.

However, when the hacker turned their attention to the Rodriguez family, they found something curious. Logan, the oldest adult child of Claudia and David Rodriguez, had 5 active devices. Mishaal Khan, a cyber-security expert, says, "While it may be normal for someone of Logan's age to have multiple devices, it is unusual for someone to have so many." Naturally, this raised some suspicions, but no concrete evidence was found to pinpoint a suspect.

At this point, it is clear that John Gressman cannot be the stalker. But with the investigation at a standstill, questions remain about who is behind the threatening messages. Is it possible that Claudia is orchestrating the Stalking herself to gain attention? Could it be her husband, David, or one of their adult children? These questions will be explored in today's episode as the PRETEND host interviews Logan to learn more about her multiple devices.

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It has been featured in the New York Times, the BBC, &amp; New York Magazine. 

To advertise on our podcast, please reach out to sales@advertisecast.com or visit  https://www.advertisecast.com/Pretend  and  https://www.advertisecast.com/CriminalConduct
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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<strong>Examining the Evidence:</strong> Is Someone in the Rodriguez House Responsible for the Stalking?</h2><p><br></p><p>As the investigation into the cyberstalking of the Rodriguez family continues, new information has come to light about the possible culprit. To uncover potential leads, an ethical hacker was brought on to investigate all parties involved in the case, including the alleged stalker, Dr. Grace Gressman, and her husband, John. After a thorough search, it was determined that both the doctor and her husband had no unusual internet activity and were unlikely to be the stalker.</p><p><br></p><p>However, when the hacker turned their attention to the Rodriguez family, they found something curious. Logan, the oldest adult child of Claudia and David Rodriguez, had 5 active devices. Mishaal Khan, a cyber-security expert, says, "While it may be normal for someone of Logan's age to have multiple devices, it is unusual for someone to have so many." Naturally, this raised some suspicions, but no concrete evidence was found to pinpoint a suspect.</p><p><br></p><p>At this point, it is clear that John Gressman cannot be the stalker. But with the investigation at a standstill, questions remain about who is behind the threatening messages. Is it possible that Claudia is orchestrating the Stalking herself to gain attention? Could it be her husband, David, or one of their adult children? These questions will be explored in today's episode as the PRETEND host interviews Logan to learn more about her multiple devices.</p><p><br></p><h1>BINGE ALL 10-EPISODES</h1><p><strong>Patreon</strong></p><p>Listen to the first 10 episodes. Plus...Get Member-only bonus episodes, t-shirts, stickers, and more.</p><p>Support PRETEND on Patreon</p><p><br></p><p><strong>PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</strong></p><p>Binge the entire season with ad-free episodes plus bonus interviews that didn't make it on the show</p><p>Subscribe to PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Pretend on social media:</strong></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/PretendPod">Twitter</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod">TikTok</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod">YouTube</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://pretendradio.org"><strong>PRETEND</strong></a><strong> is consistently in the top True Crime Podcasts about con artists in U.S., UK, Canada, and Australia. </strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>It has been featured in the </strong><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/12/style/liars-catfishing-deception.html"><strong>New York Times</strong></a><strong>, the </strong><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48231388"><strong>BBC</strong></a><strong>, &amp; </strong><a href="https://www.vulture.com/2018/10/best-weekly-true-crime-podcast-episodes-10-4.html"><strong>New York Magazine</strong></a><strong>. </strong></p><p><br></p><p><em>To advertise on our podcast, please reach out to </em><a href="mailto:sales@advertisecast.com"><em>sales@advertisecast.com</em></a><em> or visit  </em><a href="https://www.advertisecast.com/Pretend">https://www.advertisecast.com/Pretend</a>  and  <a href="https://www.advertisecast.com/CriminalConduct">https://www.advertisecast.com/CriminalConduct</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S1209: The Stalker part 9</title>
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      <description>Munchausen by Proxy Accusations: Is the Rodriguez Family Stalking Themselves?
This series started out as a story of cyberstalking, but it has taken an unexpected turn. In the latest episode, we delve into the allegations that Claudia Rodriguez suffers from Munchausen by proxy. This criminal act involves intentionally making one's child sick to gain attention. However, the Rodriguez family fiercely denies these accusations, calling it victim blaming. Instead, they insist they are like any other family dealing with disabled children.

Are the Rodriguezes Responsible for Their Own Harassment?

The detective on the case has revealed some disturbing new information. The Instagram accounts used to harass the Rodriguez family were created months before they were even the doctor's patients, and the IP addresses all point back to their own home address. This raises the question of whether the Rodriguezes could be behind the Stalking.

To help get to the bottom of this case, we listen in on a conversation with the detective and bring in an ethical hacker and cybersecurity expert to thoroughly investigate all parties involved. Will the ethical hacker uncover any new evidence that can shed light on this complex and confusing case? 

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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2023 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stalker part 9</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>12</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Munchausen by Proxy Accusations: Is the Rodriguez Family Stalking Themselves?
This series started out as a story of cyberstalking, but it has taken an unexpected turn. In the latest episode, we delve into the allegations that Claudia Rodriguez suffers from Munchausen by proxy. This criminal act involves intentionally making one's child sick to gain attention. However, the Rodriguez family fiercely denies these accusations, calling it victim blaming. Instead, they insist they are like any other family dealing with disabled children.

Are the Rodriguezes Responsible for Their Own Harassment?

The detective on the case has revealed some disturbing new information. The Instagram accounts used to harass the Rodriguez family were created months before they were even the doctor's patients, and the IP addresses all point back to their own home address. This raises the question of whether the Rodriguezes could be behind the Stalking.

To help get to the bottom of this case, we listen in on a conversation with the detective and bring in an ethical hacker and cybersecurity expert to thoroughly investigate all parties involved. Will the ethical hacker uncover any new evidence that can shed light on this complex and confusing case? 

BINGE ALL 10-EPISODES
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Support PRETEND on Patreon

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PRETEND is consistently in the top True Crime Podcasts about con artists in U.S., UK, Canada, and Australia. 

It has been featured in the New York Times, the BBC, &amp; New York Magazine. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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<strong>Munchausen by Proxy Accusations:</strong> Is the Rodriguez Family Stalking Themselves?</h1><p>This series started out as a story of cyberstalking, but it has taken an unexpected turn. In the latest episode, we delve into the allegations that Claudia Rodriguez suffers from Munchausen by proxy. This criminal act involves intentionally making one's child sick to gain attention. However, the Rodriguez family fiercely denies these accusations, calling it victim blaming. Instead, they insist they are like any other family dealing with disabled children.</p><p><br></p><h2>Are the Rodriguezes Responsible for Their Own Harassment?</h2><p><br></p><p>The detective on the case has revealed some disturbing new information. The Instagram accounts used to harass the Rodriguez family were created months before they were even the doctor's patients, and the IP addresses all point back to their own home address. This raises the question of whether the Rodriguezes could be behind the Stalking.</p><p><br></p><p>To help get to the bottom of this case, we listen in on a conversation with the detective and bring in an ethical hacker and cybersecurity expert to thoroughly investigate all parties involved. Will the ethical hacker uncover any new evidence that can shed light on this complex and confusing case? </p><p><br></p><h1>BINGE ALL 10-EPISODES</h1><p><strong>Patreon</strong></p><p>Listen to the first 10 episodes. Plus...Get Member-only bonus episodes, t-shirts, stickers, and more.</p><p>Support PRETEND on Patreon</p><p><br></p><p><strong>PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</strong></p><p>Binge the entire season with ad-free episodes plus bonus interviews that didn't make it on the show.</p><p>Subscribe to PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Pretend on social media:</strong></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/PretendPod">Twitter</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod">TikTok</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod">YouTube</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://pretendradio.org"><strong>PRETEND</strong></a><strong> is consistently in the top True Crime Podcasts about con artists in U.S., UK, Canada, and Australia. </strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>It has been featured in the </strong><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/12/style/liars-catfishing-deception.html"><strong>New York Times</strong></a><strong>, the </strong><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48231388"><strong>BBC</strong></a><strong>, &amp; </strong><a href="https://www.vulture.com/2018/10/best-weekly-true-crime-podcast-episodes-10-4.html"><strong>New York Magazine</strong></a><strong>. </strong></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S1208: The Stalker part 8</title>
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      <description>Dr. Grace Gressman speaks out about the Rodriguez family stalking case
In today's episode, we finally hear from Dr. Grace Gressman, the woman at the center of the Rodriguez family's cyberstalking saga. Despite having her statements in the police report, Javier calls her up to get her side of the story. To everyone's surprise, she picked up the phone.
But that's not all. To get to the bottom of this case, Javier also confronts the alleged stalker himself. It's a bold move that could potentially reveal the true identity of the person behind the threatening messages that have terrorized the Rodriguez family for years.
What does Dr. Gressman say about the allegations against her and her husband? And what does the stalker have to say when confronted by Javier?

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      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2023 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stalker part 8</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:summary>Dr. Grace Gressman speaks out about the Rodriguez family stalking case
In today's episode, we finally hear from Dr. Grace Gressman, the woman at the center of the Rodriguez family's cyberstalking saga. Despite having her statements in the police report, Javier calls her up to get her side of the story. To everyone's surprise, she picked up the phone.
But that's not all. To get to the bottom of this case, Javier also confronts the alleged stalker himself. It's a bold move that could potentially reveal the true identity of the person behind the threatening messages that have terrorized the Rodriguez family for years.
What does Dr. Gressman say about the allegations against her and her husband? And what does the stalker have to say when confronted by Javier?

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        <![CDATA[<h1>Dr. Grace Gressman speaks out about the Rodriguez family stalking case</h1><p>In today's episode, we finally hear from Dr. Grace Gressman, the woman at the center of the Rodriguez family's cyberstalking saga. Despite having her statements in the police report, Javier calls her up to get her side of the story. To everyone's surprise, she picked up the phone.</p><p>But that's not all. To get to the bottom of this case, Javier also confronts the alleged stalker himself. It's a bold move that could potentially reveal the true identity of the person behind the threatening messages that have terrorized the Rodriguez family for years.</p><p>What does Dr. Gressman say about the allegations against her and her husband? And what does the stalker have to say when confronted by Javier?</p><p><br></p><h1>BINGE ALL 10-EPISODES</h1><p><strong>Patreon</strong></p><p>Listen to the first 10 episodes. Plus...Get Member-only bonus episodes, t-shirts, stickers, and more.</p><p>Support PRETEND on Patreon</p><p><br></p><p><strong>PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</strong></p><p>Binge the entire season with ad-free episodes plus bonus interviews that didn't make it on the show</p><p>Subscribe to PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Pretend on social media:</strong></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/PretendPod">Twitter</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod">TikTok</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod">YouTube</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://pretendradio.org"><strong>PRETEND</strong></a><strong> is consistently in the top True Crime Podcasts about con artists in U.S., UK, Canada, and Australia. </strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>It has been featured in the </strong><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/12/style/liars-catfishing-deception.html"><strong>New York Times</strong></a><strong>, the </strong><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48231388"><strong>BBC</strong></a><strong>, &amp; </strong><a href="https://www.vulture.com/2018/10/best-weekly-true-crime-podcast-episodes-10-4.html"><strong>New York Magazine</strong></a><strong>. </strong></p><p><br></p><p><em>To advertise on our podcast, please reach out to </em><a href="mailto:sales@advertisecast.com"><em>sales@advertisecast.com</em></a><em> or visit  </em><a href="https://www.advertisecast.com/Pretend">https://www.advertisecast.com/Pretend</a>  and  <a href="https://www.advertisecast.com/CriminalConduct">https://www.advertisecast.com/CriminalConduct</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S1207: The Stalker part 7</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>Doctor and Husband Cleared as Suspects in Rodriguez Stalking Case
The Rodriguez family has been the target of a cyberstalker for over three years. Despite their efforts to involve the police and find help, the stalking has continued until this day. In fact, the detectives and postal inspector assigned to their case have even accused their oldest daughter of being the perpetrator, despite their claim of her having a solid alibi. However, the stalker has identified himself as Dr. Gressman's husband, John Gressman.

Recently, the Rodriguez family received a voicemail from a detective working on their case. The detective stated that Dr. Gressman was the actual victim in this investigation and that the threatening phone calls made by the cyberstalker were produced inside Rodriguez's home. The detective also mentioned that the investigation is ongoing and that Dr. Gressman and her husband are not suspects.

Despite this, the Rodriguez family is convinced that John Gressman is behind the Stalking. Claudia Rodriguez stated, "He scares me. He scares me, and they already think I'm the one doing it. And I feel I'm one step away from having the cops visit here."

In the latest episode of the "Pretend" podcast, the tension between the Gressman and Rodriguez families reaches a boiling point. The host even attempts to go toe-to-toe with the stalker to provoke a reaction and potentially reveal their identity. However, as the case continues, it becomes increasingly clear that this situation is complex, confusing, and far from over.

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      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2023 18:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stalker part 7</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>12</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Doctor and Husband Cleared as Suspects in Rodriguez Stalking Case
The Rodriguez family has been the target of a cyberstalker for over three years. Despite their efforts to involve the police and find help, the stalking has continued until this day. In fact, the detectives and postal inspector assigned to their case have even accused their oldest daughter of being the perpetrator, despite their claim of her having a solid alibi. However, the stalker has identified himself as Dr. Gressman's husband, John Gressman.

Recently, the Rodriguez family received a voicemail from a detective working on their case. The detective stated that Dr. Gressman was the actual victim in this investigation and that the threatening phone calls made by the cyberstalker were produced inside Rodriguez's home. The detective also mentioned that the investigation is ongoing and that Dr. Gressman and her husband are not suspects.

Despite this, the Rodriguez family is convinced that John Gressman is behind the Stalking. Claudia Rodriguez stated, "He scares me. He scares me, and they already think I'm the one doing it. And I feel I'm one step away from having the cops visit here."

In the latest episode of the "Pretend" podcast, the tension between the Gressman and Rodriguez families reaches a boiling point. The host even attempts to go toe-to-toe with the stalker to provoke a reaction and potentially reveal their identity. However, as the case continues, it becomes increasingly clear that this situation is complex, confusing, and far from over.

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        <![CDATA[<h1>Doctor and Husband Cleared as Suspects in Rodriguez Stalking Case</h1><p>The Rodriguez family has been the target of a cyberstalker for over three years. Despite their efforts to involve the police and find help, the stalking has continued until this day. In fact, the detectives and postal inspector assigned to their case have even accused their oldest daughter of being the perpetrator, despite their claim of her having a solid alibi. However, the stalker has identified himself as Dr. Gressman's husband, John Gressman.</p><p><br></p><p>Recently, the Rodriguez family received a voicemail from a detective working on their case. The detective stated that Dr. Gressman was the actual victim in this investigation and that the threatening phone calls made by the cyberstalker were produced inside Rodriguez's home. The detective also mentioned that the investigation is ongoing and that Dr. Gressman and her husband are not suspects.</p><p><br></p><p>Despite this, the Rodriguez family is convinced that John Gressman is behind the Stalking. Claudia Rodriguez stated, "He scares me. He scares me, and they already think I'm the one doing it. And I feel I'm one step away from having the cops visit here."</p><p><br></p><p>In the latest episode of the "Pretend" podcast, the tension between the Gressman and Rodriguez families reaches a boiling point. The host even attempts to go toe-to-toe with the stalker to provoke a reaction and potentially reveal their identity. However, as the case continues, it becomes increasingly clear that this situation is complex, confusing, and far from over.</p><p><br></p><h1>BINGE ALL 10-EPISODES</h1><p><strong>Patreon</strong></p><p>Listen to the first 10 episodes. Plus...Get Member-only bonus episodes, t-shirts, stickers, and more.</p><p>Support PRETEND on Patreon</p><p><br></p><p><strong>PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</strong></p><p>Binge the entire season with ad-free episodes plus bonus interviews that didn't make it on the show</p><p>Subscribe to PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Pretend on social media:</strong></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/PretendPod">Twitter</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod">TikTok</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod">YouTube</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://pretendradio.org"><strong>PRETEND</strong></a><strong> is consistently in the top True Crime Podcasts about con artists in U.S., UK, Canada, and Australia. </strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>It has been featured in the </strong><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/12/style/liars-catfishing-deception.html"><strong>New York Times</strong></a><strong>, the </strong><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48231388"><strong>BBC</strong></a><strong>, &amp; </strong><a href="https://www.vulture.com/2018/10/best-weekly-true-crime-podcast-episodes-10-4.html"><strong>New York Magazine</strong></a><strong>. </strong></p><p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S1206: The Stalker part 6</title>
      <description>Cyberstalker Resumes Harassment of Rodriguez Family, Targets Infant Daughter
After months of peace, the cyberstalker who has been tormenting Claudia and David Rodriguez for years has returned. This time, the stalker has directed his rage toward his own infant daughter, causing great concern and fear for the child's safety.

Rodriguez Family Reports Alleged Abuse to Child Protective Services
In response to this disturbing development, the Rodriguezes have reported the alleged abuse to child protective services. They've also contacted the medical board in hopes of stripping Dr. Gressman from her medical license. 

This situation is maddening. The Rodriguezes hoped to find a sense of normalcy and safety. Instead, more fear and uncertainty have consumed everyone's lives.

It's unclear at this time what actions child protective services will take, but it is clear that the Rodriguez family is not backing down. 

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      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2023 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stalker part 6</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>12</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Cyberstalker Resumes Harassment of Rodriguez Family, Targets Infant Daughter
After months of peace, the cyberstalker who has been tormenting Claudia and David Rodriguez for years has returned. This time, the stalker has directed his rage toward his own infant daughter, causing great concern and fear for the child's safety.

Rodriguez Family Reports Alleged Abuse to Child Protective Services
In response to this disturbing development, the Rodriguezes have reported the alleged abuse to child protective services. They've also contacted the medical board in hopes of stripping Dr. Gressman from her medical license. 

This situation is maddening. The Rodriguezes hoped to find a sense of normalcy and safety. Instead, more fear and uncertainty have consumed everyone's lives.

It's unclear at this time what actions child protective services will take, but it is clear that the Rodriguez family is not backing down. 

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        <![CDATA[<h2>Cyberstalker Resumes Harassment of Rodriguez Family, Targets Infant Daughter</h2><p>After months of peace, the cyberstalker who has been tormenting Claudia and David Rodriguez for years has returned. This time, the stalker has directed his rage toward his own infant daughter, causing great concern and fear for the child's safety.</p><p><br></p><h2>Rodriguez Family Reports Alleged Abuse to Child Protective Services</h2><p>In response to this disturbing development, the Rodriguezes have reported the alleged abuse to child protective services. They've also contacted the medical board in hopes of stripping Dr. Gressman from her medical license. </p><p><br></p><p>This situation is maddening. The Rodriguezes hoped to find a sense of normalcy and safety. Instead, more fear and uncertainty have consumed everyone's lives.</p><p><br></p><p>It's unclear at this time what actions child protective services will take, but it is clear that the Rodriguez family is not backing down. </p><p><br></p><h1>BINGE ALL 10-EPISODES</h1><p><strong>Patreon</strong></p><p>Listen to the first 10 episodes. Plus...Get Member-only bonus episodes, t-shirts, stickers, and more.</p><p>Support PRETEND on Patreon</p><p><br></p><p><strong>PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</strong></p><p>Binge the entire season with ad-free episodes plus bonus interviews that didn't make it on the show</p><p>Subscribe to PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Pretend on social media:</strong></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/PretendPod">Twitter</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod">TikTok</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod">YouTube</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://pretendradio.org"><strong>PRETEND</strong></a><strong> is consistently in the top True Crime Podcasts about con artists in U.S., UK, Canada, and Australia. </strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>It has been featured in the </strong><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/12/style/liars-catfishing-deception.html"><strong>New York Times</strong></a><strong>, the </strong><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48231388"><strong>BBC</strong></a><strong>, &amp; </strong><a href="https://www.vulture.com/2018/10/best-weekly-true-crime-podcast-episodes-10-4.html"><strong>New York Magazine</strong></a><strong>. </strong></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1366</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S1205: The Stalker part 5</title>
      <description>The Stalker part 5
Claudia and David Rodriguez have five children, four of whom are adults, and most have severe medical or mental health issues. Two of their adult children are so disabled that the Rodriguezes have guardianship over them, meaning they have no rights. One child has undergone multiple surgeries, including spinal cord surgery, brain surgery, and stomach stoma surgery.
The Rodriguez family has faced accusations from their daughter's neurologist, Dr. Grisman, accusing Claudia of having Munchausen by proxy, a disorder in which a caregiver intentionally causes or exaggerates the medical symptoms of someone in their care. Claudia vehemently denies these claims, stating that she is a mother who would do anything for her children and that others shouldn't judge her unless they have been in her shoes.
Despite their claims of innocence, the authorities suspect that Rodriguez's oldest daughter, Logan, is the one sending the Stalking messages. However, Claudia and David say this is impossible as Logan was in a mental health facility without access to any devices when the Stalking started up again.
In this podcast episode, we discuss this complex and confusing case that poses the question, who is behind these threatening messages?

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      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2023 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stalker part 5</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>12</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>The Stalker part 5
Claudia and David Rodriguez have five children, four of whom are adults, and most have severe medical or mental health issues. Two of their adult children are so disabled that the Rodriguezes have guardianship over them, meaning they have no rights. One child has undergone multiple surgeries, including spinal cord surgery, brain surgery, and stomach stoma surgery.
The Rodriguez family has faced accusations from their daughter's neurologist, Dr. Grisman, accusing Claudia of having Munchausen by proxy, a disorder in which a caregiver intentionally causes or exaggerates the medical symptoms of someone in their care. Claudia vehemently denies these claims, stating that she is a mother who would do anything for her children and that others shouldn't judge her unless they have been in her shoes.
Despite their claims of innocence, the authorities suspect that Rodriguez's oldest daughter, Logan, is the one sending the Stalking messages. However, Claudia and David say this is impossible as Logan was in a mental health facility without access to any devices when the Stalking started up again.
In this podcast episode, we discuss this complex and confusing case that poses the question, who is behind these threatening messages?

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        <![CDATA[<h1>The Stalker part 5</h1><p>Claudia and David Rodriguez have five children, four of whom are adults, and most have severe medical or mental health issues. Two of their adult children are so disabled that the Rodriguezes have guardianship over them, meaning they have no rights. One child has undergone multiple surgeries, including spinal cord surgery, brain surgery, and stomach stoma surgery.</p><p>The Rodriguez family has faced accusations from their daughter's neurologist, Dr. Grisman, accusing Claudia of having Munchausen by proxy, a disorder in which a caregiver intentionally causes or exaggerates the medical symptoms of someone in their care. Claudia vehemently denies these claims, stating that she is a mother who would do anything for her children and that others shouldn't judge her unless they have been in her shoes.</p><p>Despite their claims of innocence, the authorities suspect that Rodriguez's oldest daughter, Logan, is the one sending the Stalking messages. However, Claudia and David say this is impossible as Logan was in a mental health facility without access to any devices when the Stalking started up again.</p><p>In this podcast episode, we discuss this complex and confusing case that poses the question, who is behind these threatening messages?</p><p><br></p><h1>BINGE ALL 10-EPISODES</h1><p><strong>Patreon</strong></p><p>Listen to the first 10 episodes. Plus...Get Member-only bonus episodes, t-shirts, stickers, and more.</p><p>Support PRETEND on Patreon</p><p><br></p><p><strong>PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</strong></p><p>Binge the entire season with ad-free episodes plus bonus interviews that didn't make it on the show</p><p>Subscribe to PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Pretend on social media:</strong></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/PretendPod">Twitter</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod">TikTok</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod">YouTube</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://pretendradio.org"><strong>PRETEND</strong></a><strong> is consistently in the top True Crime Podcasts about con artists in U.S., UK, Canada, and Australia. </strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>It has been featured in the </strong><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/12/style/liars-catfishing-deception.html"><strong>New York Times</strong></a><strong>, the </strong><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48231388"><strong>BBC</strong></a><strong>, &amp; </strong><a href="https://www.vulture.com/2018/10/best-weekly-true-crime-podcast-episodes-10-4.html"><strong>New York Magazine</strong></a><strong>. </strong></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S1204: The Stalker part 4</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/episode/victims-of-cyberstalking-accused-and-dismissed-by-authorities-the-stalker-part-4</link>
      <description>Rodriguez Family Fights to Prove Daughter's Innocence in the face of Stalking Accusations
For over three years, Claudia and David Rodriguez have been dealing with the terror of being stalked. Despite their efforts to involve the police and get help, the Stalking has continued to this day. In fact, the detectives and even the postal inspector assigned to their case have accused their oldest daughter of being the perpetrator, despite her claiming to have a solid alibi.

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      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2023 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stalker part 4</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>12</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Rodriguez Family Fights to Prove Daughter's Innocence in the face of Stalking Accusations
For over three years, Claudia and David Rodriguez have been dealing with the terror of being stalked. Despite their efforts to involve the police and get help, the Stalking has continued to this day. In fact, the detectives and even the postal inspector assigned to their case have accused their oldest daughter of being the perpetrator, despite her claiming to have a solid alibi.

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        <![CDATA[<h1>Rodriguez Family Fights to Prove Daughter's Innocence in the face of Stalking Accusations</h1><p>For over three years, Claudia and David Rodriguez have been dealing with the terror of being stalked. Despite their efforts to involve the police and get help, the Stalking has continued to this day. In fact, the detectives and even the postal inspector assigned to their case have accused their oldest daughter of being the perpetrator, despite her claiming to have a solid alibi.</p><p><br></p><h1>BINGE ALL 10-EPISODES</h1><p><strong>Patreon</strong></p><p>Listen to the first 10 episodes. Plus...Get Member-only bonus episodes, t-shirts, stickers, and more.</p><p>Support PRETEND on Patreon</p><p><br></p><p><strong>PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</strong></p><p>Binge the entire season with ad-free episodes plus bonus interviews that didn't make it on the show</p><p>Subscribe to PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Pretend on social media:</strong></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/PretendPod">Twitter</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod">TikTok</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod">YouTube</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://pretendradio.org"><strong>PRETEND</strong></a><strong> is consistently in the top True Crime Podcasts about con artists in U.S., UK, Canada, and Australia. </strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>It has been featured in the </strong><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/12/style/liars-catfishing-deception.html"><strong>New York Times</strong></a><strong>, the </strong><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48231388"><strong>BBC</strong></a><strong>, </strong><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15027986/?ref_=nm_knf_i_1"><strong>Discovery+</strong></a><strong>, &amp; </strong><a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt23826740/?ref_=nm_knf_i_2"><strong>Netlfix</strong></a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S1203: The Stalker part 3</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/a-tale-of-cyber-stalking-and-deception-the-stalker-part-3</link>
      <description>From Victims to Suspects: The Bizarre Turn of Events in the Rodriguez Family's Cyber Stalking Case
In the world of cyberstalking, it's not uncommon for victims to have an idea of who their perpetrator might be. It could be an ex-partner, a disgruntled employee, or even an obsessed friend. But for Claudia and David Rodriguez, the situation was much more complex. For the past three years, they've been the victims of a cyber stalker who claims to be the husband of their daughter's doctor, a man they've never even met. The messages started off benign but quickly turned sadistic and threatening. Despite their efforts to report the harassment and seek help from the authorities, the Rodriguez family faced disbelief and suspicion. In this podcast episode, we'll explore the mysterious case of the Rodriguez family's cyber stalker and how a simple IP address couldn't provide all the answers.

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      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2023 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stalker part 3</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>12</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>From Victims to Suspects: The Bizarre Turn of Events in the Rodriguez Family's Cyber Stalking Case
In the world of cyberstalking, it's not uncommon for victims to have an idea of who their perpetrator might be. It could be an ex-partner, a disgruntled employee, or even an obsessed friend. But for Claudia and David Rodriguez, the situation was much more complex. For the past three years, they've been the victims of a cyber stalker who claims to be the husband of their daughter's doctor, a man they've never even met. The messages started off benign but quickly turned sadistic and threatening. Despite their efforts to report the harassment and seek help from the authorities, the Rodriguez family faced disbelief and suspicion. In this podcast episode, we'll explore the mysterious case of the Rodriguez family's cyber stalker and how a simple IP address couldn't provide all the answers.

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        <![CDATA[<h2>From Victims to Suspects: The Bizarre Turn of Events in the Rodriguez Family's Cyber Stalking Case</h2><p>In the world of cyberstalking, it's not uncommon for victims to have an idea of who their perpetrator might be. It could be an ex-partner, a disgruntled employee, or even an obsessed friend. But for Claudia and David Rodriguez, the situation was much more complex. For the past three years, they've been the victims of a cyber stalker who claims to be the husband of their daughter's doctor, a man they've never even met. The messages started off benign but quickly turned sadistic and threatening. Despite their efforts to report the harassment and seek help from the authorities, the Rodriguez family faced disbelief and suspicion. In this podcast episode, we'll explore the mysterious case of the Rodriguez family's cyber stalker and how a simple IP address couldn't provide all the answers.</p><p><br></p><h1>BINGE ALL 10-EPISODES</h1><p><strong>Patreon</strong></p><p>Listen to the first 10 episodes. Plus...Get Member-only bonus episodes, t-shirts, stickers, and more.</p><p>Support PRETEND on Patreon</p><p><br></p><p><strong>PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</strong></p><p>Binge the entire season with ad-free episodes plus bonus interviews that didn't make it on the show</p><p>Subscribe to PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Pretend on social media:</strong></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/PretendPod">Twitter</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod">TikTok</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod">YouTube</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://pretendradio.org"><strong>PRETEND</strong></a><strong> is consistently in the top True Crime Podcasts about con artists in U.S., UK, Canada, and Australia. </strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>It has been featured in the </strong><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/12/style/liars-catfishing-deception.html"><strong>New York Times</strong></a><strong>, the </strong><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48231388"><strong>BBC</strong></a><strong>, &amp; </strong><a href="https://www.vulture.com/2018/10/best-weekly-true-crime-podcast-episodes-10-4.html"><strong>New York Magazine</strong></a><strong>. </strong></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S1202: The Stalker part 2</title>
      <description>Harassed by a Cyber Stalker Claiming to be the Doctor's Husband: The Strange Story of Claudia and David Rodriguez
Claudia and David Rodriguez claim they have been the victims of a cyber stalker for the past three years. The person behind the messages claims to be the husband of Claudia's daughter's doctor, a man they've never even met. As bizarre as this situation sounds, it's been a constant source of harassment and anxiety for the Rodriguez family. In this podcast episode, we'll delve into the strange story of Claudia and David Rodriguez, including their ongoing battle with a mysterious cyber stalker and the surprising twist that led to them being accused of stalking.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Jan 2023 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stalker part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>12</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Harassed by a Cyber Stalker Claiming to be the Doctor's Husband: The Strange Story of Claudia and David Rodriguez
Claudia and David Rodriguez claim they have been the victims of a cyber stalker for the past three years. The person behind the messages claims to be the husband of Claudia's daughter's doctor, a man they've never even met. As bizarre as this situation sounds, it's been a constant source of harassment and anxiety for the Rodriguez family. In this podcast episode, we'll delve into the strange story of Claudia and David Rodriguez, including their ongoing battle with a mysterious cyber stalker and the surprising twist that led to them being accused of stalking.
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        <![CDATA[<h3>Harassed by a Cyber Stalker Claiming to be the Doctor's Husband: The Strange Story of Claudia and David Rodriguez</h3><p>Claudia and David Rodriguez claim they have been the victims of a cyber stalker for the past three years. The person behind the messages claims to be the husband of Claudia's daughter's doctor, a man they've never even met. As bizarre as this situation sounds, it's been a constant source of harassment and anxiety for the Rodriguez family. In this podcast episode, we'll delve into the strange story of Claudia and David Rodriguez, including their ongoing battle with a mysterious cyber stalker and the surprising twist that led to them being accused of stalking.</p><h3>BINGE ALL 10-EPISODES</h3><p><strong>Patreon</strong></p><p>Listen to the first 10 episodes. Plus...Get Member-only bonus episodes, t-shirts, stickers, and more.</p><p>Support PRETEND on Patreon</p><p><strong>PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</strong></p><p>Binge the entire season with ad-free episodes plus bonus interviews that didn't make it on the show</p><p>Subscribe to PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</p><p><strong>Follow Pretend on social media:</strong></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/PretendPod">Twitter</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod">TikTok</a></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod">YouTube</a></p><p><a href="http://pretendradio.org/"><strong>PRETEND</strong></a><strong> is consistently in the top True Crime Podcasts about con artists in U.S., UK, Canada, and Australia.</strong></p><p><strong>It has been featured in the </strong><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/12/style/liars-catfishing-deception.html"><strong>New York Times</strong></a><strong>, the </strong><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48231388"><strong>BBC</strong></a><strong>, &amp; </strong><a href="https://www.vulture.com/2018/10/best-weekly-true-crime-podcast-episodes-10-4.html"><strong>New York Magazine</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S1201: The Stalker part 1</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/episode/podcast-doctors-husband-accused-of-cyberstalking-couple-the-stalker-part-1</link>
      <description>Couple terrorized by a sadistic cyber stalker for years
For more than three years, Claudia and David Rodriguez (not their real names) have been the targets of a sadistic cyber stalker. Despite their attempts to involve the police and stop the stalking, it has continued to this day. In fact, the couple has faced accusations from the very detectives assigned to their case. One detective suggests that Claudia may have a split personality and is causing the stalking herself.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2023 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stalker part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>12</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Couple terrorized by a sadistic cyber stalker for years
For more than three years, Claudia and David Rodriguez (not their real names) have been the targets of a sadistic cyber stalker. Despite their attempts to involve the police and stop the stalking, it has continued to this day. In fact, the couple has faced accusations from the very detectives assigned to their case. One detective suggests that Claudia may have a split personality and is causing the stalking herself.
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PRETEND is consistently in the top True Crime Podcasts about con artists in U.S., UK, Canada, and Australia. 

It has been featured in the New York Times, the BBC, &amp; Netflix.
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        <![CDATA[<h2>Couple terrorized by a sadistic cyber stalker for years</h2><p>For more than three years, Claudia and David Rodriguez (not their real names) have been the targets of a sadistic cyber stalker. Despite their attempts to involve the police and stop the stalking, it has continued to this day. In fact, the couple has faced accusations from the very detectives assigned to their case. One detective suggests that Claudia may have a split personality and is causing the stalking herself.</p><h1>BINGE ALL 10-EPISODES</h1><p><strong>Patreon</strong></p><p>Listen to the first 10 episodes. Plus...Get Member-only bonus episodes, t-shirts, stickers, and more.</p><p>Support PRETEND on Patreon</p><p><br></p><p><strong>PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</strong></p><p>Binge the entire season with ad-free episodes plus bonus interviews that didn't make it on the show</p><p>Subscribe to PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Follow Pretend on social media:</strong></p><p><a href="https://twitter.com/PretendPod">Twitter</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod">TikTok</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/@pretendpod">YouTube</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://pretendradio.org"><strong>PRETEND</strong></a><strong> is consistently in the top True Crime Podcasts about con artists in U.S., UK, Canada, and Australia. </strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>It has been featured in the </strong><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/12/style/liars-catfishing-deception.html"><strong>New York Times</strong></a><strong>, the </strong><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48231388"><strong>BBC</strong></a><strong>, &amp; </strong><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81576846"><strong>Netflix</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1746</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S509: The Santa Claus Man Revisited</title>
      <description>This is the story about a Christmas con artist pretending to be Santa Claus.
Brian Earl, the host of the Christmas Past podcast, joins me to tell a little-known true-crime holiday story.

Christmas Past
The seventh season of Christmas Past is out. Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, Brian shares the fascinating backstories behind our favorite holiday traditions.

Looking for a last-minute gift idea? Buy the Christmas Past book.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2022 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Santa Claus Man Revisited</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>11</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This is the story about a Christmas con artist pretending to be Santa Claus.
Brian Earl, the host of the Christmas Past podcast, joins me to tell a little-known true-crime holiday story.

Christmas Past
The seventh season of Christmas Past is out. Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, Brian shares the fascinating backstories behind our favorite holiday traditions.

Looking for a last-minute gift idea? Buy the Christmas Past book.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This is the story about a Christmas con artist pretending to be Santa Claus.</p><p>Brian Earl, the host of the <a href="https://christmaspastpodcast.com/">Christmas Past podcast</a>, joins me to tell a little-known true-crime holiday story.</p><p><br></p><h2>Christmas Past</h2><p>The seventh season of Christmas Past is out. Every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, Brian shares the fascinating backstories behind our favorite holiday traditions.</p><p><br></p><p>Looking for a last-minute gift idea? Buy the <a href="https://christmaspastpodcast.com/book/">Christmas Past book</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2734</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S505: The Prank Revisited (featured on Netflix Don’t Pick Up the Phone)</title>
      <description>The Prank series inspired the new Netflix documentary series "Don't Pick Up the Phone." This docuseries follows the investigation into a hoax caller who talked managers into strip-searching employees at fast food businesses across the US.

Binge the entire series on Netflix starting December 14th:
https://www.netflix.com/title/81576846
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2022 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Prank (featured on Netflix Don’t Pick Up the Phone)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>11</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The Prank series inspired the new Netflix documentary series "Don't Pick Up the Phone." This docuseries follows the investigation into a hoax caller who talked managers into strip-searching employees at fast food businesses across the US.

Binge the entire series on Netflix starting December 14th:
https://www.netflix.com/title/81576846
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>The Prank series inspired the new Netflix documentary series "Don't Pick Up the Phone." This docuseries follows the investigation into a hoax caller who talked managers into strip-searching employees at fast food businesses across the US.</p><p><br></p><p>Binge the entire series on Netflix starting December 14th:</p><p>https://www.netflix.com/title/81576846</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>4746</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S401: The One Who Got Away Revisited</title>
      <description>Larry Douglas Jones is not your typical fugitive. He had a wife and three kids. And to be honest, he's not a dangerous man. He became overwhelmed with life and decided to run away.

This is the first in a series of stories about fugitives. In season 4, we explore how abandoning your old identity leads to a whole set of complications. How do these criminals assume a new identity? What strategies do they use to avoid getting caught?

_______________


This episode was 100% funded by you. 

I was able to travel to Gulfport, MS for this story using funds raised on Patreon. So if you’d like to see me to take the show on the road, consider chipping in a buck or two on our Patreon page. Plus, you’ll get access to early episodes and bonus content. So, thank you so much for the support.

_______________


Lies, lies, and more lies

A few seasons ago, I asked you to submit stories about lies. Either lies that you’ve told or lies that have impacted you personally. And boy, was the response crazy! I ended up making a whole episode dedicated to lies. I want to try it again. Email me a voice memo. Chances are your story could make it on the show.

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Story idea? 
If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at info@pretendradio.org.

For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.

To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Nov 2022 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The One Who Got Away Revisited</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>11</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Larry Douglas Jones is not your typical fugitive. He had a wife and three kids. And to be honest, he's not a dangerous man. He became overwhelmed with life and decided to run away.

This is the first in a series of stories about fugitives. In season 4, we explore how abandoning your old identity leads to a whole set of complications. How do these criminals assume a new identity? What strategies do they use to avoid getting caught?

_______________


This episode was 100% funded by you. 

I was able to travel to Gulfport, MS for this story using funds raised on Patreon. So if you’d like to see me to take the show on the road, consider chipping in a buck or two on our Patreon page. Plus, you’ll get access to early episodes and bonus content. So, thank you so much for the support.

_______________


Lies, lies, and more lies

A few seasons ago, I asked you to submit stories about lies. Either lies that you’ve told or lies that have impacted you personally. And boy, was the response crazy! I ended up making a whole episode dedicated to lies. I want to try it again. Email me a voice memo. Chances are your story could make it on the show.

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Story idea? 
If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at info@pretendradio.org.

For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.

To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Larry Douglas Jones is not your typical fugitive. He had a wife and three kids. And to be honest, he's not a dangerous man. He became overwhelmed with life and decided to run away.</p><p><br></p><p>This is the first in a series of stories about fugitives. In season 4, we explore how abandoning your old identity leads to a whole set of complications. How do these criminals assume a new identity? What strategies do they use to avoid getting caught?</p><p><br></p><p>_______________</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>This episode was 100% funded by you. </strong></p><p><br></p><p>I was able to travel to Gulfport, MS for this story using funds raised on <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">Patreon</a>. So if you’d like to see me to take the show on the road, consider chipping in a buck or two on our <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">Patreon page</a>. Plus, you’ll get access to early episodes and bonus content. So, thank you so much for the support.</p><p><br></p><p>_______________</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Lies, lies, and more lies</strong></p><p><br></p><p>A few seasons ago, I asked you to submit stories about lies. Either lies that you’ve told or lies that have impacted you personally. And boy, was the response crazy! I ended up making <a href="http://pretendradio.org/19-the-stranger-lies-deception/">a whole episode dedicated to lies</a>. I want to try it again. Email me a voice memo. Chances are your story could make it on the show.</p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this, visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2956</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S101: The Prophet Revisited  - Word of Faith Fellowship Cult</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/episode/who-is-jane-whaley-word-of-faith-fellowship/</link>
      <description>When I started this podcast, I reported on a secretive church in the foothills of western North Carolina called the Word of Faith Fellowship.
The church, accused of being a cult, separates families—forcing them to break ties with non-believers.

A history of documented abuse
One teenager named Matthew Fenner pressed charges against five church ministers because he said they beat the gay demons out of him.
And that’s just the beginning. Several former members remember spending weeks and months in forced isolation. Some male congregants say they lived in a makeshift storage unit for over a year. Locals know them best for their signature style of prayer—blasting. As you can hear in this secret audio recording, blasting is a form of deliverance meant to cast out the devil.

Word of Faith Fellowship Revisited
The episode you’re about to listen to is my first 3 episodes rolled into one.

To listen to my 11-part series on the Word of Faith Fellowship, start here:
https://pretendradio.org/episode/who-is-jane-whaley-word-of-faith-fellowship/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2022 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Prophet Revisited - Word of Faith Fellowship Cult</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>11</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>When I started this podcast, I reported on a secretive church in the foothills of western North Carolina called the Word of Faith Fellowship.
The church, accused of being a cult, separates families—forcing them to break ties with non-believers.

A history of documented abuse
One teenager named Matthew Fenner pressed charges against five church ministers because he said they beat the gay demons out of him.
And that’s just the beginning. Several former members remember spending weeks and months in forced isolation. Some male congregants say they lived in a makeshift storage unit for over a year. Locals know them best for their signature style of prayer—blasting. As you can hear in this secret audio recording, blasting is a form of deliverance meant to cast out the devil.

Word of Faith Fellowship Revisited
The episode you’re about to listen to is my first 3 episodes rolled into one.

To listen to my 11-part series on the Word of Faith Fellowship, start here:
https://pretendradio.org/episode/who-is-jane-whaley-word-of-faith-fellowship/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>When I started this podcast, I reported on a secretive church in the foothills of western North Carolina called the Word of Faith Fellowship.</p><p>The church, accused of being a cult, separates families—forcing them to break ties with non-believers.</p><p><br></p><h2>A history of documented abuse</h2><p>One teenager named Matthew Fenner pressed charges against five church ministers because he said they beat the gay demons out of him.</p><p>And that’s just the beginning. Several former members remember spending weeks and months in forced isolation. Some male congregants say they lived in a makeshift storage unit for over a year. Locals know them best for their signature style of prayer—blasting. As you can hear in this secret audio recording, blasting is a form of deliverance meant to cast out the devil.</p><p><br></p><h2>Word of Faith Fellowship Revisited</h2><p>The episode you’re about to listen to is my first 3 episodes rolled into one.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>To listen to my 11-part series on the Word of Faith Fellowship, start here:</strong></p><p>https://pretendradio.org/episode/who-is-jane-whaley-word-of-faith-fellowship/</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3564</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S806: The Real Vampires Revisited</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/episode/the-real-vampires-who-walk-among-us-john-browning/</link>
      <description>John Browning investigates real blood-sucking vampires—people who need human blood to survive. 

In today's episode, we will talk about real people who claim to be real vampires. 

Self-harm
You know, we bantered about tapping into veins and arteries from the vantage point of vampires feasting on blood. But if you remove the word vampire from our conversation, it starts sounding like a much more familiar crisis...self-harm.  

It's not uncommon for some of us with depression or anxiety to inflict pain on ourselves. The physical wounds hurt, but it's nowhere near as painful as the emotions inside our heads and hearts. So if you're listening to this, there are different places you can seek help. First, talk to a pro. You can use online counselors like BetterHelp, a real-life therapist, or even reach out to a friend. There are also crisis lines where you can text and talk to an actual human for free. Text HOME to 741741, Again text HOME to 741741. I'll have a list of numbers you can text for my international friends in the show notes. 

https://www.crisistextline.org/

Get Help

US: Text 741741

CA: Text 741741

UK: Text 85258

Ireland: 50808


Sophrpsyne
Music featured in this episode is from Sophrosyne. Check out their music on Spotify.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2022 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Real Vampires Revisited</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>11</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>John Browning investigates real blood-sucking vampires—people who need human blood to survive. 

In today's episode, we will talk about real people who claim to be real vampires. 

Self-harm
You know, we bantered about tapping into veins and arteries from the vantage point of vampires feasting on blood. But if you remove the word vampire from our conversation, it starts sounding like a much more familiar crisis...self-harm.  

It's not uncommon for some of us with depression or anxiety to inflict pain on ourselves. The physical wounds hurt, but it's nowhere near as painful as the emotions inside our heads and hearts. So if you're listening to this, there are different places you can seek help. First, talk to a pro. You can use online counselors like BetterHelp, a real-life therapist, or even reach out to a friend. There are also crisis lines where you can text and talk to an actual human for free. Text HOME to 741741, Again text HOME to 741741. I'll have a list of numbers you can text for my international friends in the show notes. 

https://www.crisistextline.org/

Get Help

US: Text 741741

CA: Text 741741

UK: Text 85258

Ireland: 50808


Sophrpsyne
Music featured in this episode is from Sophrosyne. Check out their music on Spotify.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>John Browning investigates real blood-sucking vampires—people who need human blood to survive. </p><p><br></p><p>In today's episode, we will talk about real people who claim to be real vampires. </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Self-harm</strong></p><p>You know, we bantered about tapping into veins and arteries from the vantage point of vampires feasting on blood. But if you remove the word vampire from our conversation, it starts sounding like a much more familiar crisis...self-harm.  </p><p><br></p><p>It's not uncommon for some of us with depression or anxiety to inflict pain on ourselves. The physical wounds hurt, but it's nowhere near as painful as the emotions inside our heads and hearts. So if you're listening to this, there are different places you can seek help. First, talk to a pro. You can use online counselors like BetterHelp, a real-life therapist, or even reach out to a friend. There are also crisis lines where you can text and talk to an actual human for free. Text HOME to 741741, Again text HOME to 741741. I'll have a list of numbers you can text for my international friends in the show notes. </p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.crisistextline.org/">https://www.crisistextline.org/</a></p><ul>
<li>Get Help</li>
<li>US: Text 741741</li>
<li><a href="https://kidshelpphone.ca/text/">CA: Text 741741</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.giveusashout.org/">UK: Text 85258</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.crisistextline.ie/">Ireland: 50808</a></li>
</ul><p><br></p><p>Sophrpsyne</p><p>Music featured in this episode is from Sophrosyne. <a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/7vMbR5kl3EPge34VGcqXHB?si=tlaombXFSZ64rmUMPFunHA">Check out their music on Spotify.</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2476</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S1108: The Real Catch Me If You Can part 8 (finale)</title>
      <description>On September 12, 2022, Frank Abagnale was honored with a Heroes in Ethics award at Xavier University. An ethics award for a conman!

Unlike the general public, who were spellbound by the myth surrounding Abagnale's life, Xavier University knew precisely who they were honoring that night. They can't claim ignorance because I wrote the University and told them they had the wrong guy. Frank Abagnale doesn't deserve an ethics award. He lied about his entire life story. Was Malala busy that week? She deserves an ethics award. But despite knowing the truth, Xavier University went along with their little ethics ceremony anyway. 

Xavier University's mission is built on moral and ethical responsibility- that's what it says on its website. And out of all the people in the world making a difference, they chose to honor a guy who ripped off his girlfriend and is accused of feeling up college girls pretending to be a doctor-slash pilot recruiter. But, seriously, did they even read this guy's Wikipedia page?
Picture a room full of business students, professors, lawyers, accountants, and even current members of the FBI eagerly awaiting Frank Abagnale's Heroes in Ethics acceptance speech. Little does Frank Abagnale know that Jim Grinstead, host of the Scams and Cons podcast, was in the audience. Jim planned to confront Frank Abagnale during the Q&amp;A portion of the ceremony.

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      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2022 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Real Catch Me If You Can part 8 (finale)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>11</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Frank Abagnale was honored with a Heroes in Ethics award at Xavier University. An ethics award for a conman!</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>On September 12, 2022, Frank Abagnale was honored with a Heroes in Ethics award at Xavier University. An ethics award for a conman!

Unlike the general public, who were spellbound by the myth surrounding Abagnale's life, Xavier University knew precisely who they were honoring that night. They can't claim ignorance because I wrote the University and told them they had the wrong guy. Frank Abagnale doesn't deserve an ethics award. He lied about his entire life story. Was Malala busy that week? She deserves an ethics award. But despite knowing the truth, Xavier University went along with their little ethics ceremony anyway. 

Xavier University's mission is built on moral and ethical responsibility- that's what it says on its website. And out of all the people in the world making a difference, they chose to honor a guy who ripped off his girlfriend and is accused of feeling up college girls pretending to be a doctor-slash pilot recruiter. But, seriously, did they even read this guy's Wikipedia page?
Picture a room full of business students, professors, lawyers, accountants, and even current members of the FBI eagerly awaiting Frank Abagnale's Heroes in Ethics acceptance speech. Little does Frank Abagnale know that Jim Grinstead, host of the Scams and Cons podcast, was in the audience. Jim planned to confront Frank Abagnale during the Q&amp;A portion of the ceremony.

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        <![CDATA[<h1><strong>On September 12, 2022, Frank Abagnale was honored with a Heroes in Ethics award at Xavier University. An ethics award for a conman!</strong></h1><p><br></p><p>Unlike the general public, who were spellbound by the myth surrounding Abagnale's life, Xavier University knew precisely who they were honoring that night. They can't claim ignorance because I wrote the University and told them they had the wrong guy. Frank Abagnale doesn't deserve an ethics award. <a href="https://pretendradio.org/episode/the-real-catch-me-if-you-can-part-1/">He lied about his entire life story</a>. Was Malala busy that week? She deserves an ethics award. But despite knowing the truth, Xavier University went along with their little ethics ceremony anyway. </p><p><br></p><p>Xavier University's mission is built on moral and ethical responsibility- that's what it <a href="https://www.xavier.edu/mission-identity/xaviers-mission/xaviers-mission-statement/more-on-the-mission-statement">says on its website</a>. And out of all the people in the world making a difference, they chose to honor a guy <a href="https://pretendradio.org/episode/frank-abagnale-is-a-con-artist-just-not-the-con-man-you-think-he-is-part-4/">who ripped off his girlfriend and is accused of feeling up college girls pretending to be a doctor-slash pilot recruiter</a>. But, seriously, did they even read this guy's <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Abagnale">Wikipedia page</a>?</p><p>Picture a room full of business students, professors, lawyers, accountants, and even current members of the FBI eagerly awaiting Frank Abagnale's Heroes in Ethics acceptance speech. Little does Frank Abagnale know that Jim Grinstead, host of the <a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwji1fecv9b6AhVHl2oFHeQaCWsQFnoECBIQAQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.scamsandcons.com%2F&amp;usg=AOvVaw1W0U3LiiGQR6W1MA4RGjbB">Scams and Cons</a> podcast, was in the audience. Jim planned to confront Frank Abagnale during the Q&amp;A portion of the ceremony.</p><p><br></p><h2>Get Member-only bonus episodes, t-shirts, stickers, and more.</h2><p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio">Support PRETEND on Patreon</a></p><p><br></p><h2>Listen to ad-free episodes and bonus interviews that didn't make it on the show</h2><p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/channel/pretend/id6443456985">Subscribe to PRETEND+ on Apple Podcast</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S1107: The Real Catch Me If You Can part 7</title>
      <description>What if I told you that Frank Abagnale wasn't the only con artist in his family? His older brother used multiple aliases, faked his career as a therapist, and was even accused of kidnapping a 7-year-old girl.
This episode reveals the dark and puzzling secrets of Frank Abagnale's family history.

Correction: In the episode, I mention that Susan was married to Roy Abagnale from 1970 to 1978 - but it was actually 1978 to 1992. 
 __________
Bonus episodes

Sleepover with Leo:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/sleepover-with-71435815?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&amp;utm_source=copyLink&amp;utm_campaign=postshare_creator

Pernilla busted the Tinder Swindler. Hear her thoughts on Frank Abagnale
https://www.patreon.com/posts/pernilla-busted-72501591?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&amp;utm_source=copyLink&amp;utm_campaign=postshare_creator

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Have you followed PRETEND on TikTok and Instagram? 

Help me start a trending sound. Use this sound of Frank Abagnale denying writing his book, movie, and Broadway play: 
https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7145467873979338030?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1

Here are some examples:
https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7145483295080385835?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1
https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7145536351801462062?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1
https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7145816794819841326?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1
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      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2022 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Real Catch Me If You Can part 7</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>11</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>What if I told you that Frank Abagnale wasn't the only con artist in his family? His older brother used multiple aliases, faked his career as a therapist, and was even accused of kidnapping a 7-year-old girl.
This episode reveals the dark and puzzling secrets of Frank Abagnale's family history.

Correction: In the episode, I mention that Susan was married to Roy Abagnale from 1970 to 1978 - but it was actually 1978 to 1992. 
 __________
Bonus episodes

Sleepover with Leo:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/sleepover-with-71435815?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&amp;utm_source=copyLink&amp;utm_campaign=postshare_creator

Pernilla busted the Tinder Swindler. Hear her thoughts on Frank Abagnale
https://www.patreon.com/posts/pernilla-busted-72501591?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&amp;utm_source=copyLink&amp;utm_campaign=postshare_creator

 __________
Have you followed PRETEND on TikTok and Instagram? 

Help me start a trending sound. Use this sound of Frank Abagnale denying writing his book, movie, and Broadway play: 
https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7145467873979338030?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1

Here are some examples:
https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7145483295080385835?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1
https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7145536351801462062?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1
https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7145816794819841326?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if I told you that Frank Abagnale wasn't the only con artist in his family? His older brother used multiple aliases, faked his career as a therapist, and was even accused of kidnapping a 7-year-old girl.</p><p>This episode reveals the dark and puzzling secrets of Frank Abagnale's family history.</p><p><br></p><p><strong><em>Correction: </em></strong><em>In the episode, I mention that Susan was married to Roy Abagnale from 1970 to 1978 - but it was actually 1978 to 1992. </em></p><p> __________</p><h2>Bonus episodes</h2><p><br></p><p><strong>Sleepover with Leo:</strong></p><p>https://www.patreon.com/posts/sleepover-with-71435815?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&amp;utm_source=copyLink&amp;utm_campaign=postshare_creator</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Pernilla busted the Tinder Swindler. Hear her thoughts on Frank Abagnale</strong></p><p>https://www.patreon.com/posts/pernilla-busted-72501591?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&amp;utm_source=copyLink&amp;utm_campaign=postshare_creator</p><p><br></p><p> __________</p><h2>Have you followed PRETEND on <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod">TikTok</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/">Instagram</a>? </h2><p><br></p><p>Help me start a trending sound. Use this sound of Frank Abagnale denying writing his book, movie, and Broadway play: </p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7145467873979338030?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1">https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7145467873979338030?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Here are some examples:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7145483295080385835?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1">https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7145483295080385835?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7145536351801462062?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1">https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7145536351801462062?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1</a></p><p><a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7145816794819841326?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1">https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod/video/7145816794819841326?is_copy_url=1&amp;is_from_webapp=v1</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3669</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S1106: The Real Catch Me If You Can part 6</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>This series is not just a story about a con man who lied about his past experiences. No, it's much bigger than that. This series is about correcting history. For decades, we've celebrated Frank Abagnale's life. He's invaded our living rooms in countless tv interviews. He's had Leonardo DiCaprio play him in a movie. John Williams even scored his superhero theme song. And his life has even been turned into a musical that one reviewer wrote: "is an amazing true story with a happy ending we all need."
But it turns out that America's favorite con man is really just another petty criminal who's never really repaid all the money he stole. But if we zoom out, this is the story of the spread of misinformation. Where politicians and other grifters have taken a page out of Abagnale's book and learned that if they repeat multiple lies over and over, most people won't question it. And they can get away with it.
Frank claims he evaded the FBI for five years. They couldn't catch him even if they tried. Sure, he admits he finally got arrested, but in his version of the story, he's the hero working undercover for the FBI.
I may not believe his account, but I think he won in the end. The guy is in his mid-70s, lives in a multi-million-dollar island home, and makes a pre-school teacher's annual salary every time he takes the stage. He made it! And besides his alleged victims, no one seems to question his success. He fooled us all.
And he would have gotten away with too, if it weren't for this meddling kid and his scrappy friend from Belfast. (The Irish guy is Alan Logan, the author of The Greatest Hoax on Earth.) We're on a mission to set the record straight. So that when you ask someone if they know who Frank Abagnale is, Instead of it being based on a true story, they'll tell you that he made it all up.
Abagnale may have been on the run for the last 50 to 40 years, getting away with his biggest lie. But guess what?
We caught him.
Listen to part 6 of The Real Catch Me If You Can, then send me a voice memo with your thoughts on this series. Your audio could make it on the show. Email me at javier@pretendradio.org.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2022 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Real Catch Me If You Can part 6</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>11</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>it turns out that America's favorite con man is really just another petty criminal who's never really repaid all the money he stole</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This series is not just a story about a con man who lied about his past experiences. No, it's much bigger than that. This series is about correcting history. For decades, we've celebrated Frank Abagnale's life. He's invaded our living rooms in countless tv interviews. He's had Leonardo DiCaprio play him in a movie. John Williams even scored his superhero theme song. And his life has even been turned into a musical that one reviewer wrote: "is an amazing true story with a happy ending we all need."
But it turns out that America's favorite con man is really just another petty criminal who's never really repaid all the money he stole. But if we zoom out, this is the story of the spread of misinformation. Where politicians and other grifters have taken a page out of Abagnale's book and learned that if they repeat multiple lies over and over, most people won't question it. And they can get away with it.
Frank claims he evaded the FBI for five years. They couldn't catch him even if they tried. Sure, he admits he finally got arrested, but in his version of the story, he's the hero working undercover for the FBI.
I may not believe his account, but I think he won in the end. The guy is in his mid-70s, lives in a multi-million-dollar island home, and makes a pre-school teacher's annual salary every time he takes the stage. He made it! And besides his alleged victims, no one seems to question his success. He fooled us all.
And he would have gotten away with too, if it weren't for this meddling kid and his scrappy friend from Belfast. (The Irish guy is Alan Logan, the author of The Greatest Hoax on Earth.) We're on a mission to set the record straight. So that when you ask someone if they know who Frank Abagnale is, Instead of it being based on a true story, they'll tell you that he made it all up.
Abagnale may have been on the run for the last 50 to 40 years, getting away with his biggest lie. But guess what?
We caught him.
Listen to part 6 of The Real Catch Me If You Can, then send me a voice memo with your thoughts on this series. Your audio could make it on the show. Email me at javier@pretendradio.org.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This series is not just a story about a con man who lied about his past experiences. No, it's much bigger than that. This series is about correcting history. For decades, we've celebrated Frank Abagnale's life. He's invaded our living rooms in countless tv interviews. He's had Leonardo DiCaprio play him in a movie. John Williams even scored his superhero theme song. And his life has even been turned into a musical that one reviewer wrote: "is an amazing true story with a happy ending we all need."</p><p>But it turns out that America's favorite con man is really just another petty criminal who's never really repaid all the money he stole. But if we zoom out, this is the story of the spread of misinformation. Where politicians and other grifters have taken a page out of Abagnale's book and learned that if they repeat multiple lies over and over, most people won't question it. And they can get away with it.</p><p>Frank claims he evaded the FBI for five years. They couldn't catch him even if they tried. Sure, he admits he finally got arrested, but in his version of the story, he's the hero working undercover for the FBI.</p><p>I may not believe his account, but I think he won in the end. The guy is in his mid-70s, lives in a multi-million-dollar island home, and makes a pre-school teacher's annual salary every time he takes the stage. He made it! And besides his alleged victims, no one seems to question his success. He fooled us all.</p><p>And he would have gotten away with too, if it weren't for this meddling kid and his scrappy friend from Belfast. (The Irish guy is Alan Logan, the author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Greatest-Hoax-Earth-Catching-Truth-ebook/dp/B08P3X22K5">The Greatest Hoax on Earth</a>.) We're on a mission to set the record straight. So that when you ask someone if they know who Frank Abagnale is, Instead of it being based on a true story, they'll tell you that he made it all up.</p><p>Abagnale may have been on the run for the last 50 to 40 years, getting away with his biggest lie. But guess what?</p><p>We caught him.</p><h3>Listen to part 6 of The Real Catch Me If You Can, then send me a voice memo with your thoughts on this series. Your audio could make it on the show. Email me at <a href="mailto:javier@pretendradio.org">javier@pretendradio.org</a>.</h3><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3444</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S1105: The Real Catch Me If You Can part 5</title>
      <description>I confronted Frank Abagnale in Las Vegas, NV. He claims he posed as a pilot, a lawyer, a doctor, and a professor from the age of sixteen to twenty-one years old. But how is that possible if he was sitting in prison most of that time? You won't believe his response.

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Watch the Abagnale saga unfold:


YouTube - search for Pretend Podcast


TikTok - @pretendpod


Instagram - @pretendpod


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      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2022 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Real Catch Me If You Can part 5</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>11</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Confrontation with Frank Abagnale</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>I confronted Frank Abagnale in Las Vegas, NV. He claims he posed as a pilot, a lawyer, a doctor, and a professor from the age of sixteen to twenty-one years old. But how is that possible if he was sitting in prison most of that time? You won't believe his response.

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Watch the Abagnale saga unfold:


YouTube - search for Pretend Podcast


TikTok - @pretendpod


Instagram - @pretendpod


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Support PRETEND Podcast on Patreon:
-Get early access to episodes
-Bonus content
-Stickers and t-shirts!
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I confronted Frank Abagnale in Las Vegas, NV. He claims he posed as a pilot, a lawyer, a doctor, and a professor from the age of sixteen to twenty-one years old. But how is that possible if he was sitting in prison most of that time? You won't believe his response.</p><p><br></p><p>_______</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Watch the Abagnale saga unfold:</strong></p><ul>
<li>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf94SpHoG-uN-y0bmaCKIHQ">YouTube</a> - search for Pretend Podcast</li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@pretendpod">TikTok</a> - @pretendpod</li>
<li>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/pretendpod/?hl=en">Instagram</a> - @pretendpod</li>
</ul><p><br></p><p>______</p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio"><strong>Support PRETEND Podcast on Patreon</strong></a><strong>:</strong></p><p>-Get early access to episodes</p><p>-Bonus content</p><p>-Stickers and t-shirts!</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3958</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S1104: The Real Catch Me If You Can part 4</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org</link>
      <description>We've spent the last three episodes debunking the infamous Frank Abagnale myth. If he wasn't posing as a doctor, a lawyer, or a professor, then what the heck was Frank Abagnale up to? This is the story Abagnale never talks about.

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Part 5 will be available soon on Patreon.
https://pretendradio.org/donate/
_______
Fact-checking for this episode by Kate Gallagher.
Special thanks to Alan Logan, author of The Greatest Hoax on Earth: Catching Truth, While We Can
Learn more: https://www.amazon.com/dp/173619741X/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_5EAWP7S0XC5J1WJQF2D5
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Aug 2022 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Real Catch Me If You Can part 4</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>11</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>If he wasn't posing as a doctor, a lawyer, or a professor, then what the heck was Frank Abagnale up to?</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We've spent the last three episodes debunking the infamous Frank Abagnale myth. If he wasn't posing as a doctor, a lawyer, or a professor, then what the heck was Frank Abagnale up to? This is the story Abagnale never talks about.

_______

Part 5 will be available soon on Patreon.
https://pretendradio.org/donate/
_______
Fact-checking for this episode by Kate Gallagher.
Special thanks to Alan Logan, author of The Greatest Hoax on Earth: Catching Truth, While We Can
Learn more: https://www.amazon.com/dp/173619741X/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_5EAWP7S0XC5J1WJQF2D5
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We've spent the last three episodes debunking the infamous Frank Abagnale myth. If he wasn't posing as a doctor, a lawyer, or a professor, then what the heck was Frank Abagnale up to? This is the story Abagnale never talks about.</p><p><br></p><p>_______</p><p><br></p><p>Part 5 will be available soon on Patreon.</p><p>https://pretendradio.org/donate/</p><p>_______</p><p>Fact-checking for this episode by Kate Gallagher.</p><p>Special thanks to Alan Logan, author of The Greatest Hoax on Earth: Catching Truth, While We Can</p><p>Learn more: https://www.amazon.com/dp/173619741X/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_5EAWP7S0XC5J1WJQF2D5</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <description>Two reporters destroy Frank Abagnale's story. Yet nobody cared. 

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Listen to part 4 right now on Patreon:
https://pretendradio.org/donate/

Special Thanks to:
Fact-checking for this episode by Kate Gallagher.
Special thanks to Alan Logan, author of The Greatest Hoax on Earth: Catching Truth, While We Can
Learn more: https://www.amazon.com/dp/173619741X/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_5EAWP7S0XC5J1WJQF2D5
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2022 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Real Catch Me If You Can part 3</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Two reporters destroy Frank Abagnale's story. Yet nobody cared. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Two reporters destroy Frank Abagnale's story. Yet nobody cared. 

_______
Listen to part 4 right now on Patreon:
https://pretendradio.org/donate/

Special Thanks to:
Fact-checking for this episode by Kate Gallagher.
Special thanks to Alan Logan, author of The Greatest Hoax on Earth: Catching Truth, While We Can
Learn more: https://www.amazon.com/dp/173619741X/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_5EAWP7S0XC5J1WJQF2D5
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<h2>Two reporters destroy Frank Abagnale's story. Yet nobody cared. </h2><p><br></p><p>_______</p><p><strong>Listen to part 4 right now on Patreon:</strong></p><p>https://pretendradio.org/donate/</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Special Thanks to:</strong></p><p>Fact-checking for this episode by Kate Gallagher.</p><p>Special thanks to Alan Logan, author of The Greatest Hoax on Earth: Catching Truth, While We Can</p><p>Learn more: https://www.amazon.com/dp/173619741X/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_5EAWP7S0XC5J1WJQF2D5</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S1102: The Real Catch Me If You Can part 2</title>
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      <description>Frank Abagnale claims he never stole money from the little guy—it was all victimless crimes. But that's not what I found. Hear the story of one family who says they were robbed blind by Abagnale.
_______
Fact-checking for this episode by Kate Gallagher.
Special thanks to Alan Logan, author of The Greatest Hoax on Earth: Catching Truth, While We Can
Learn more: https://www.amazon.com/dp/173619741X/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_5EAWP7S0XC5J1WJQF2D5
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2022 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Real Catch Me If You Can part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>11</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Frank Abagnale claims he never stole money from the little guy—it was all victimless crimes. But that's not what I found. Hear the story of one family who says they were robbed blind by Abagnale.
_______
Fact-checking for this episode by Kate Gallagher.
Special thanks to Alan Logan, author of The Greatest Hoax on Earth: Catching Truth, While We Can
Learn more: https://www.amazon.com/dp/173619741X/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_5EAWP7S0XC5J1WJQF2D5
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Frank Abagnale claims he never stole money from the little guy—it was all victimless crimes. But that's not what I found. Hear the story of one family who says they were robbed blind by Abagnale.</p><p>_______</p><p>Fact-checking for this episode by Kate Gallagher.</p><p>Special thanks to Alan Logan, author of The Greatest Hoax on Earth: Catching Truth, While We Can</p><p>Learn more: https://www.amazon.com/dp/173619741X/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_5EAWP7S0XC5J1WJQF2D5</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S1101: The Real Catch Me If You Can part 1</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>This might be my favorite PRETEND series of all time. 
Remember the movie Catch Me If You Can? Most people believe the film is based on a true story. But, did you know it's mostly made up? I spent the last few weeks and months pouring over court records, police reports, and other documents to prove that Frank Abagnale faked his entire life story. It turns out that the real story behind Catch Me If You Can is actually a lot more fascinating than the one you thought you knew.

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Fact-checking for this episode by Kate Gallagher.
Special thanks to Alan Logan, author of The Greatest Hoax on Earth: Catching Truth, While We Can
Learn more: https://www.amazon.com/dp/173619741X/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_5EAWP7S0XC5J1WJQF2D5

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Jordan Harbinger
Search for The Jordan Harbinger Show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Jul 2022 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Real Catch Me If You Can part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>11</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>This might be my favorite PRETEND series of all time. 
Remember the movie Catch Me If You Can? Most people believe the film is based on a true story. But, did you know it's mostly made up? I spent the last few weeks and months pouring over court records, police reports, and other documents to prove that Frank Abagnale faked his entire life story. It turns out that the real story behind Catch Me If You Can is actually a lot more fascinating than the one you thought you knew.

_______
Fact-checking for this episode by Kate Gallagher.
Special thanks to Alan Logan, author of The Greatest Hoax on Earth: Catching Truth, While We Can
Learn more: https://www.amazon.com/dp/173619741X/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_5EAWP7S0XC5J1WJQF2D5

_______
Jordan Harbinger
Search for The Jordan Harbinger Show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podcasts
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This might be my favorite PRETEND series of all time. </p><p>Remember the movie Catch Me If You Can? Most people believe the film is based on a true story. But, did you know it's mostly made up? I spent the last few weeks and months pouring over court records, police reports, and other documents to prove that Frank Abagnale faked his entire life story. It turns out that the real story behind Catch Me If You Can is actually a lot more fascinating than the one you thought you knew.</p><p><br></p><p>_______</p><p>Fact-checking for this episode by Kate Gallagher.</p><p>Special thanks to Alan Logan, author of The Greatest Hoax on Earth: Catching Truth, While We Can</p><p>Learn more: https://www.amazon.com/dp/173619741X/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_5EAWP7S0XC5J1WJQF2D5</p><p><br></p><p>_______</p><h2>Jordan Harbinger</h2><p><strong>Search for <em>The Jordan Harbinger Show</em> on </strong><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-jordan-harbinger-show/id1344999619"><strong>Apple Podcasts</strong></a><strong>, </strong><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5RVoEOIACQbBDZnGBJ7Ec2"><strong>Spotify</strong></a><strong>, or wherever you listen to podcasts</strong></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <description>What if I told you that 90% of Frank Abagnale's claims are totally made up? Yeah, that's right. The most extraordinary con man in the world never actually did the crimes he claims he did.

In the new season of PRETEND, host Javier Leiva debunks Frank Abagnale’s claims one by one, not with opinions but with court and prison records. This series also gives voice to new victim testimonies. In the end, Leiva travels to Las Vegas to confront Abagnale about his lies. This is the real-life Catch Me If You Can.


Listen to part 1 now on Apple Podcast and Spotify. 

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2022 13:51:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Real Catch Me If You Can</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>What if I told you that 90% of Frank Abagnale's claims are totally made up? Yeah, that's right. The most extraordinary con man in the world never actually did the crimes he claims he did.

In the new season of PRETEND, host Javier Leiva debunks Frank Abagnale’s claims one by one, not with opinions but with court and prison records. This series also gives voice to new victim testimonies. In the end, Leiva travels to Las Vegas to confront Abagnale about his lies. This is the real-life Catch Me If You Can.


Listen to part 1 now on Apple Podcast and Spotify. 

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What if I told you that 90% of Frank Abagnale's claims are totally made up? Yeah, that's right. The most extraordinary con man in the world never actually did the crimes he claims he did.</p><p><br></p><p>In the new season of PRETEND, host Javier Leiva debunks Frank Abagnale’s claims one by one, not with opinions but with court and prison records. This series also gives voice to new victim testimonies. In the end, Leiva travels to Las Vegas to confront Abagnale about his lies. This is the real-life Catch Me If You Can.</p><h2><br></h2><h2>
<strong>Listen to part 1 now on </strong><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-real-catch-me-if-you-can-part-1/id1245307962?i=1000568847671"><strong>Apple Podcast</strong></a><strong> and </strong><a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/2ojooEUwrQs7LM6ifRHEmD?si=42d2fb56e8e8485c"><strong>Spotify</strong></a><strong>. </strong>
</h2><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S1004: The Man Who Wears Many Hats part 2</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>Fred Brito posed as a priest in order to hide from law enforcement. Find out how he ALMOST got away with it.
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Follow PRETEND on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

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True Crime Podcast Festival 2022 in Dallas, TX
We’re excited to announce that Criminal Conduct is going to be attending the True Crime Podcast Festival on August 26-28th in Dallas, Texas. The Festival is specially designed around your desire to mingle, interact, and have casual conversations with the podcasters you listen to regularly. There will also be panel discussions and live episodes you can’t hear anywhere else!
Go to the website Truecrimepodcastfestival.com to find information on tickets and the hotel. Prices do go up the closer we get to the event so you won’t want to wait. I’ll see you at the True Crime Podcast Festival!

__________

Listen to a preview for the Stolen Lives Podcast at the end of the episode:
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2022 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Man Who Wears Many Hats part 2</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Fred Brito posed as a priest in order to hide from law enforcement. Find out how he ALMOST got away with it.
__________

Follow PRETEND on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

__________

True Crime Podcast Festival 2022 in Dallas, TX
We’re excited to announce that Criminal Conduct is going to be attending the True Crime Podcast Festival on August 26-28th in Dallas, Texas. The Festival is specially designed around your desire to mingle, interact, and have casual conversations with the podcasters you listen to regularly. There will also be panel discussions and live episodes you can’t hear anywhere else!
Go to the website Truecrimepodcastfestival.com to find information on tickets and the hotel. Prices do go up the closer we get to the event so you won’t want to wait. I’ll see you at the True Crime Podcast Festival!

__________

Listen to a preview for the Stolen Lives Podcast at the end of the episode:
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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      <itunes:duration>2015</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S1003: The Man Who Wears Many Hats part 1</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/episode/fred-brito-con-artist/</link>
      <description>Fred Brito worked as a psychiatrist, priest, and a Red Cross fundraiser—but it was all based on lies.

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Follow PRETEND on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

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True Crime Podcast Festival 2022 in Dallas, TX
We’re excited to announce that Criminal Conduct is going to be attending the True Crime Podcast Festival on August 26-28th in Dallas, Texas. The Festival is specially designed around your desire to mingle, interact, and have casual conversations with the podcasters you listen to regularly. There will also be panel discussions and live episodes you can’t hear anywhere else!
Go to the website Truecrimepodcastfestival.com to find information on tickets and the hotel. Prices do go up the closer we get to the event so you won’t want to wait. I’ll see you at the True Crime Podcast Festival!
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Jun 2022 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Man Who Wears Many Hats part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>10</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Fred Brito worked as a psychiatrist, priest, and a Red Cross fundraiser—but it was all based on lies.

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Follow PRETEND on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

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True Crime Podcast Festival 2022 in Dallas, TX
We’re excited to announce that Criminal Conduct is going to be attending the True Crime Podcast Festival on August 26-28th in Dallas, Texas. The Festival is specially designed around your desire to mingle, interact, and have casual conversations with the podcasters you listen to regularly. There will also be panel discussions and live episodes you can’t hear anywhere else!
Go to the website Truecrimepodcastfestival.com to find information on tickets and the hotel. Prices do go up the closer we get to the event so you won’t want to wait. I’ll see you at the True Crime Podcast Festival!
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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      <title>S1002: The Sperm Donor</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>David Berry took an at-home DNA test and discovered dozens of half-siblings. Was this a coincidence or the scheme of one sperm donor?
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True Crime Podcast Festival 2022 in Dallas, TX
We’re excited to announce that Criminal Conduct is going to be attending the True Crime Podcast Festival on August 26-28th in Dallas, Texas. The Festival is specially designed around your desire to mingle, interact, and have casual conversations with the podcasters you listen to regularly. There will also be panel discussions and live episodes you can’t hear anywhere else!
Go to the website Truecrimepodcastfestival.com to find information on tickets and the hotel. Prices do go up the closer we get to the event so you won’t want to wait. I’ll see you at the True Crime Podcast Festival!
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2022 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Sperm Donor</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>10</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>David Berry took an at-home DNA test and discovered dozens of half-siblings. Was this a coincidence or the scheme of one sperm donor?
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True Crime Podcast Festival 2022 in Dallas, TX
We’re excited to announce that Criminal Conduct is going to be attending the True Crime Podcast Festival on August 26-28th in Dallas, Texas. The Festival is specially designed around your desire to mingle, interact, and have casual conversations with the podcasters you listen to regularly. There will also be panel discussions and live episodes you can’t hear anywhere else!
Go to the website Truecrimepodcastfestival.com to find information on tickets and the hotel. Prices do go up the closer we get to the event so you won’t want to wait. I’ll see you at the True Crime Podcast Festival!
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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      <title>S1001: The Dadbot</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/episode/artificial-intelligence-gives-a-dying-man-immortality/</link>
      <description>Does death start when your heart stops beating? What if technology can extend our lives and gives us immortality? Today's episode is about one son who turned his dying father into a chatbot.
Here After AI
https://www.hereafter.ai/

Replika
https://replika.com/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2022 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Dad Bot</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>10</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Does death start when your heart stops beating? What if technology can extend our lives and gives us immortality? Today's episode is about one son who turned his dying father into a chatbot.
Here After AI
https://www.hereafter.ai/

Replika
https://replika.com/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Does death start when your heart stops beating? What if technology can extend our lives and gives us immortality? Today's episode is about one son who turned his dying father into a chatbot.</p><p>Here After AI</p><p><a href="https://www.hereafter.ai/">https://www.hereafter.ai/</a></p><p><br></p><p>Replika</p><p><a href="https://replika.com/">https://replika.com/</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2661</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S908: The Deepfake</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>Today, we're talking about deepfakes.
Deepfakes are video or audio of a person in which their face, body, and/or voice has been digitally altered so that they appear to be someone else. And we're not just talking about some harmless Snapchat filters. This tech can start wars and destroy lives.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Apr 2022 07:31:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Deepfake</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>9</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Today, we're talking about deepfakes.
Deepfakes are video or audio of a person in which their face, body, and/or voice has been digitally altered so that they appear to be someone else. And we're not just talking about some harmless Snapchat filters. This tech can start wars and destroy lives.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<h2>Today, we're talking about deepfakes.</h2><p>Deepfakes are video or audio of a person in which their face, body, and/or voice has been digitally altered so that they appear to be someone else. And we're not just talking about some harmless Snapchat filters. This tech can start wars and destroy lives.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1185</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S907: The Forensic Musicologist </title>
      <description>Luxxury rips apart your favorite songs. 

Check out his TikTok feed for more videos on interpolation.
https://www.tiktok.com/@luxxuryxx/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2022 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Forensic Musicologist </itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>9</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Luxxury rips apart your favorite songs. 

Check out his TikTok feed for more videos on interpolation.
https://www.tiktok.com/@luxxuryxx/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Luxxury rips apart your favorite songs. </p><p><br></p><p>Check out his TikTok feed for more videos on interpolation.</p><p>https://www.tiktok.com/@luxxuryxx/</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>PRETEND's 100th Episode</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>Lauren Passell, the founder of Tink Media, interviews Javier in celebration of PRETEND's 100th episode.

Subscribe to Lauren's incredible podcast newsletter:
https://podcastthenewsletter.substack.com/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Mar 2022 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>PRETEND's 100th Episode</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Lauren Passell, the founder of Tink Media, interviews Javier in celebration of PRETEND's 100th episode.

Subscribe to Lauren's incredible podcast newsletter:
https://podcastthenewsletter.substack.com/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Lauren Passell, the founder of <a href="https://tinkmedia.co/">Tink Media</a>, interviews Javier in celebration of PRETEND's 100th episode.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Subscribe to Lauren's incredible podcast newsletter:</strong></p><p><a href="https://podcastthenewsletter.substack.com/">https://podcastthenewsletter.substack.com/</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2715</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Javier Interviews a Serial Killer — Criminal Conduct Season 3 </title>
      <link>https://linktr.ee/criminalconduct</link>
      <description>In Season 2 of PRETEND, I covered the story of a serial killer who murdered at least five American ex-pats. Three years after the story aired, I received a message from a listener who said she could put me in touch with the killer.
I decided to turn my interviews with Wild Bill into an entire season of CRIMINAL CONDUCT.

Listen to part 1 of Criminal Conduct season 3 then subscribe to listen to the rest:
https://linktr.ee/criminalconduct
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2022 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>9</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In Season 2 of PRETEND, I covered the story of a serial killer who murdered at least five American ex-pats. Three years after the story aired, I received a message from a listener who said she could put me in touch with the killer.
I decided to turn my interviews with Wild Bill into an entire season of CRIMINAL CONDUCT.

Listen to part 1 of Criminal Conduct season 3 then subscribe to listen to the rest:
https://linktr.ee/criminalconduct
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In Season 2 of PRETEND, I covered the story of a serial killer who murdered at least five American ex-pats. Three years after the story aired, I received a message from a listener who said she could put me in touch with the killer.</p><p>I decided to turn my interviews with Wild Bill into an entire season of CRIMINAL CONDUCT.</p><p><br></p><p>Listen to part 1 of Criminal Conduct season 3 then subscribe to listen to the rest:</p><p>https://linktr.ee/criminalconduct</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1937</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S905: The Business of Cults part 3</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/episode/the-business-of-cults-part-1/</link>
      <description>Rebekah Sebastian and Javier Leiva visit businesses run by cults. Also, what happens when a cult leader dies or goes to prison? Can the cult go on without its leader? Find out which cults are trying to continue the organization without any clear leadership.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2022 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Business of Cults part 3</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>9</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Rebekah Sebastian and Javier Leiva visit businesses run by cults. Also, what happens when a cult leader dies or goes to prison? Can the cult go on without its leader? Find out which cults are trying to continue the organization without any clear leadership.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Rebekah Sebastian and Javier Leiva visit businesses run by cults. Also, what happens when a cult leader dies or goes to prison? Can the cult go on without its leader? Find out which cults are trying to continue the organization without any clear leadership.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3644</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S904: The Business of Cults part 2</title>
      <description>Cults are businesses too. Like any company, cults recruit, have middle management, and some even have succession plans. 

Many of these religious sects are tax-exempt. Like Scientology, even some fringe religions are recognized by the Internal Revenue Service. 

Not all cults are religious. At first glance, some cults don't seem culty at all. For example, take a closer look at businesses such as multi-level marketing companies. These companies are masquerading as a business, but in reality, they're run by narcissistic ego-maniacs. 

The Cult Startup 
Like businesses, cults go through different phases. First, there's a startup phase where an entrepreneurial cult leader leads a movement and brings new innovative and revolutionary ideas. Take, for example, Jim Jones, leader of the People's Temple. In the beginning, he integrated his congregation during the Civil Rights Movement. After that, he was heavily involved in politics and social activism. The allure was undeniable. But in the end, Jones ordered 909 commune members to end their lives.  

The Cult Franchise
Then, there comes the point where the cult needs to expand its Business and influence. Take, for example, The Twelve Tribes religious sect. This organization, widely considered a cult, operates several businesses worldwide. I visited one of their Yellow Deli restaurants for the second installment of this series. 

The Cult Exit Strategy
If you're not evolving, you're dying. And sometimes, literally dying. So, what happens when a cult becomes too big to fail? Some morally bankrupt cult leaders resort to mass suicide. Other cults grow so big and fast that they become worldwide institutional organizations. 

The Business of Cults 
The Business of Cults is a three-part series hosted by Rebekah Sebastian with the DIELAOGUE Podcast and Javier Leiva of PRETEND podcast. 
Part one focuses on The C Suite: Chief Cult Executives. Part two features an interview with former NXIVM member Sarah Edmondson. And Part three explores the question, can a cult survive without its leader?

Listen to part two now on Patreon. 

Buy the t-shirt for this week's episode. Collage art by @kelletteworks
https://pretend-radio-3.creator-spring.com/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2022 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Business of Cults part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>9</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Cults are businesses too. Like any company, cults recruit, have middle management, and some even have succession plans. 

Many of these religious sects are tax-exempt. Like Scientology, even some fringe religions are recognized by the Internal Revenue Service. 

Not all cults are religious. At first glance, some cults don't seem culty at all. For example, take a closer look at businesses such as multi-level marketing companies. These companies are masquerading as a business, but in reality, they're run by narcissistic ego-maniacs. 

The Cult Startup 
Like businesses, cults go through different phases. First, there's a startup phase where an entrepreneurial cult leader leads a movement and brings new innovative and revolutionary ideas. Take, for example, Jim Jones, leader of the People's Temple. In the beginning, he integrated his congregation during the Civil Rights Movement. After that, he was heavily involved in politics and social activism. The allure was undeniable. But in the end, Jones ordered 909 commune members to end their lives.  

The Cult Franchise
Then, there comes the point where the cult needs to expand its Business and influence. Take, for example, The Twelve Tribes religious sect. This organization, widely considered a cult, operates several businesses worldwide. I visited one of their Yellow Deli restaurants for the second installment of this series. 

The Cult Exit Strategy
If you're not evolving, you're dying. And sometimes, literally dying. So, what happens when a cult becomes too big to fail? Some morally bankrupt cult leaders resort to mass suicide. Other cults grow so big and fast that they become worldwide institutional organizations. 

The Business of Cults 
The Business of Cults is a three-part series hosted by Rebekah Sebastian with the DIELAOGUE Podcast and Javier Leiva of PRETEND podcast. 
Part one focuses on The C Suite: Chief Cult Executives. Part two features an interview with former NXIVM member Sarah Edmondson. And Part three explores the question, can a cult survive without its leader?

Listen to part two now on Patreon. 

Buy the t-shirt for this week's episode. Collage art by @kelletteworks
https://pretend-radio-3.creator-spring.com/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Cults are businesses too. Like any company, cults recruit, have middle management, and some even have succession plans. </p><p><br></p><p>Many of these religious sects are<strong> </strong>tax-exempt. Like Scientology, even some fringe religions are recognized by the Internal Revenue Service. </p><p><br></p><p>Not all cults are religious. At first glance, some cults don't seem culty at all. For example, take a closer look at businesses such as multi-level marketing companies. These companies are masquerading as a business, but in reality, they're run by narcissistic ego-maniacs. </p><p><br></p><p><strong>The Cult Startup </strong></p><p>Like businesses, cults go through different phases. First, there's a startup phase where an entrepreneurial cult leader leads a movement and brings new innovative and revolutionary ideas. Take, for example, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones">Jim Jones</a>, leader of the People's Temple. In the beginning, he integrated his congregation during the Civil Rights Movement. After that, he was heavily involved in politics and social activism. The allure was undeniable. But in the end, Jones ordered 909 commune members to end their lives.  </p><p><br></p><p><strong>The Cult Franchise</strong></p><p>Then, there comes the point where the cult needs to expand its Business and influence. Take, for example, The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Tribes_communities#Businesses">Twelve Tribes</a> religious sect. This organization, widely considered a cult, operates several businesses worldwide. I visited one of their <a href="https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g49211-d11719595-Reviews-The_Yellow_Deli_Hiddenite-Hiddenite_North_Carolina.html">Yellow Deli</a> restaurants for the second installment of this series. </p><p><br></p><p><strong>The Cult Exit Strategy</strong></p><p>If you're not evolving, you're dying. And sometimes, literally dying. So, what happens when a cult becomes too big to fail? Some morally bankrupt cult leaders resort to mass suicide. Other cults grow so big and fast that they become worldwide institutional organizations. </p><p><br></p><p><strong>The Business of Cults </strong></p><p>The Business of Cults is a three-part series hosted by Rebekah Sebastian with the <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/fi/podcast/die-alogue-a-true-crime-conversation/id1470890320">DIELAOGUE Podcast</a> and Javier Leiva of <a href="https://pretendradio.org/">PRETEND podcast</a>. </p><p>Part one focuses on <strong>The C Suite: Chief Cult Executives</strong>. Part two features an interview with former NXIVM member Sarah Edmondson. And Part three explores the question, can a cult survive without its leader?</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Listen to </strong><a href="https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio"><strong>part two</strong></a><strong> now on Patreon. </strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Buy the t-shirt for this week's episode. Collage art by </strong><a href="https://www.instagram.com/accounts/login/?next=/kelletteworks/"><strong>@kelletteworks</strong></a></p><p><a href="https://pretend-radio-3.creator-spring.com/">https://pretend-radio-3.creator-spring.com/</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S903: The Business of Cults part 1</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/episode/the-business-of-cults-part-1/</link>
      <description>Cults are businesses too. Like any company, cults recruit, have middle management, and some even have succession plans. 

Many of these religious sects are tax-exempt. Like Scientology, even some fringe religions are recognized by the Internal Revenue Service. 

Not all cults are religious. At first glance, some cults don't seem culty at all. For example, take a closer look at businesses such as multi-level marketing companies. These companies are masquerading as a business, but in reality, they're run by narcissistic ego-maniacs. 

The Cult Startup 
Like businesses, cults go through different phases. First, there's a startup phase where an entrepreneurial cult leader leads a movement and brings new innovative and revolutionary ideas. Take, for example, Jim Jones, leader of the People's Temple. In the beginning, he integrated his congregation during the Civil Rights Movement. After that, he was heavily involved in politics and social activism. The allure was undeniable. But in the end, Jones ordered 909 commune members to end their lives.  

The Cult Franchise
Then, there comes the point where the cult needs to expand its Business and influence. Take, for example, The Twelve Tribes religious sect. This organization, widely considered a cult, operates several businesses worldwide. I visited one of their Yellow Deli restaurants for the second installment of this series. 

The Cult Exit Strategy
If you're not evolving, you're dying. And sometimes, literally dying. So, what happens when a cult becomes too big to fail? Some morally bankrupt cult leaders resort to mass suicide. Other cults grow so big and fast that they become worldwide institutional organizations. 

The Business of Cults 
The Business of Cults is a three-part series hosted by Rebekah Sebastian with the DIELAOGUE Podcast and Javier Leiva of PRETEND podcast. 
Part one focuses on The C Suite: Chief Cult Executives. Part two features an interview with former NXIVM member Sarah Edmondson. And Part three explores the question, can a cult survive without its leader?

Listen to part two now on Patreon. 

Buy the t-shirt for this week's episode. Collage art by @kelletteworks
https://pretend-radio-3.creator-spring.com/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Feb 2022 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Business of Cults part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>9</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/6f6ac6f4-845c-11ec-aeb3-ef1949f2b787/image/Sqaure.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Cults are businesses too. Like any company, cults recruit, have middle management, and some even have succession plans. 

Many of these religious sects are tax-exempt. Like Scientology, even some fringe religions are recognized by the Internal Revenue Service. 

Not all cults are religious. At first glance, some cults don't seem culty at all. For example, take a closer look at businesses such as multi-level marketing companies. These companies are masquerading as a business, but in reality, they're run by narcissistic ego-maniacs. 

The Cult Startup 
Like businesses, cults go through different phases. First, there's a startup phase where an entrepreneurial cult leader leads a movement and brings new innovative and revolutionary ideas. Take, for example, Jim Jones, leader of the People's Temple. In the beginning, he integrated his congregation during the Civil Rights Movement. After that, he was heavily involved in politics and social activism. The allure was undeniable. But in the end, Jones ordered 909 commune members to end their lives.  

The Cult Franchise
Then, there comes the point where the cult needs to expand its Business and influence. Take, for example, The Twelve Tribes religious sect. This organization, widely considered a cult, operates several businesses worldwide. I visited one of their Yellow Deli restaurants for the second installment of this series. 

The Cult Exit Strategy
If you're not evolving, you're dying. And sometimes, literally dying. So, what happens when a cult becomes too big to fail? Some morally bankrupt cult leaders resort to mass suicide. Other cults grow so big and fast that they become worldwide institutional organizations. 

The Business of Cults 
The Business of Cults is a three-part series hosted by Rebekah Sebastian with the DIELAOGUE Podcast and Javier Leiva of PRETEND podcast. 
Part one focuses on The C Suite: Chief Cult Executives. Part two features an interview with former NXIVM member Sarah Edmondson. And Part three explores the question, can a cult survive without its leader?

Listen to part two now on Patreon. 

Buy the t-shirt for this week's episode. Collage art by @kelletteworks
https://pretend-radio-3.creator-spring.com/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Cults are businesses too. Like any company, cults recruit, have middle management, and some even have succession plans. </p><p><br></p><p>Many of these religious sects are<strong> </strong>tax-exempt. Like Scientology, even some fringe religions are recognized by the Internal Revenue Service. </p><p><br></p><p>Not all cults are religious. At first glance, some cults don't seem culty at all. For example, take a closer look at businesses such as multi-level marketing companies. These companies are masquerading as a business, but in reality, they're run by narcissistic ego-maniacs. </p><p><br></p><p><strong>The Cult Startup </strong></p><p>Like businesses, cults go through different phases. First, there's a startup phase where an entrepreneurial cult leader leads a movement and brings new innovative and revolutionary ideas. Take, for example, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones">Jim Jones</a>, leader of the People's Temple. In the beginning, he integrated his congregation during the Civil Rights Movement. After that, he was heavily involved in politics and social activism. The allure was undeniable. But in the end, Jones ordered 909 commune members to end their lives.  </p><p><br></p><p><strong>The Cult Franchise</strong></p><p>Then, there comes the point where the cult needs to expand its Business and influence. Take, for example, The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve_Tribes_communities#Businesses">Twelve Tribes</a> religious sect. This organization, widely considered a cult, operates several businesses worldwide. I visited one of their <a href="https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g49211-d11719595-Reviews-The_Yellow_Deli_Hiddenite-Hiddenite_North_Carolina.html">Yellow Deli</a> restaurants for the second installment of this series. </p><p><br></p><p><strong>The Cult Exit Strategy</strong></p><p>If you're not evolving, you're dying. And sometimes, literally dying. So, what happens when a cult becomes too big to fail? Some morally bankrupt cult leaders resort to mass suicide. Other cults grow so big and fast that they become worldwide institutional organizations. </p><p><br></p><p><strong>The Business of Cults </strong></p><p>The Business of Cults is a three-part series hosted by Rebekah Sebastian with the <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/fi/podcast/die-alogue-a-true-crime-conversation/id1470890320">DIELAOGUE Podcast</a> and Javier Leiva of <a href="https://pretendradio.org/">PRETEND podcast</a>. </p><p>Part one focuses on <strong>The C Suite: Chief Cult Executives</strong>. Part two features an interview with former NXIVM member Sarah Edmondson. And Part three explores the question, can a cult survive without its leader?</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Listen to </strong><a href="https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio"><strong>part two</strong></a><strong> now on Patreon. </strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Buy the t-shirt for this week's episode. Collage art by </strong><a href="https://www.instagram.com/accounts/login/?next=/kelletteworks/"><strong>@kelletteworks</strong></a></p><p><a href="https://pretend-radio-3.creator-spring.com/">https://pretend-radio-3.creator-spring.com/</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S902: Cons, Scams, and Flim-flams</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>I'm working on a new series on cults that's really exciting. While you wait, here's a fun little bonus episode for you.
Moxie LaBouche, host of the Your Brain on Facts podcast, and I talk about our favorite scams.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2022 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Bonus: Cons, Scams, and Flim-flams</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>I'm working on a new series on cults that's really exciting. While you wait, here's a fun little bonus episode for you.
Moxie LaBouche, host of the Your Brain on Facts podcast, and I talk about our favorite scams.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I'm working on a new series on cults that's really exciting. While you wait, here's a fun little bonus episode for you.</p><p>Moxie LaBouche, host of the <a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwip4sXOnMH1AhUsTd8KHSQMDcgQFnoECAYQAQ&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fyourbrainonfacts.com%2F&amp;usg=AOvVaw1ZPniOEld9CHxDikowp5VG">Your Brain on Facts podcast</a>, and I talk about our favorite scams.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2613</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S901: The KGB Agent</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>In this podcast episode
A conversation with Jack Barsky, a former KGB spy.
For 10 years, Jack Barsky was a sleeper agent spying for the Soviet Union. His job was to obtain secret or confidential information from inside the United States any way he could.

The KGB Spy
Jack Barsky spied on the United States from 1978 to 1988. And that entire time, his primary mission was to become an American. And that's precisely what he did. He moved to New York City, got a job as a computer programmer, and lived an unremarkable life. He made friends and other relationships while being Moscow's eyes and ears. But his clandestine mission as a sleeper agent was bound to end.
"The KGB, for some reason, got spooked and thought my cover was blown," said Barsky.
The message was clear. Jack Barsky was exposed and needed to return to Moscow.

Double agent
Jack Barsky's birth name is Albrecht Dittrich. When he first joined the KGB, he didn't see himself as a spy. Instead, he and other recruits thought of themselves as scouts for peace. The spies are the enemies of the West.

The KGB spy living the American Dream
Jack Barsky never intended for his story to get out. So for 10 years, Barsky assumed the identity of a dead child. He took the boy's name, birth certificate, and social security number. The mission was to infiltrate, extract secrets and get out. But eventually, his years as a sleeper agent were exposed to the world.
Hear the true story of this KGB's spy career came to an end.

Special Thanks to
Kellette Elliott for the custom collage artwork. Purchase a t-shirt with this episode's artwork here.

Story idea?
If you have a story to share, email Javier at info [at] pretendradio [dot] org.
For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.
To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate
Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2022 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The KGB Agent</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>9</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this podcast episode
A conversation with Jack Barsky, a former KGB spy.
For 10 years, Jack Barsky was a sleeper agent spying for the Soviet Union. His job was to obtain secret or confidential information from inside the United States any way he could.

The KGB Spy
Jack Barsky spied on the United States from 1978 to 1988. And that entire time, his primary mission was to become an American. And that's precisely what he did. He moved to New York City, got a job as a computer programmer, and lived an unremarkable life. He made friends and other relationships while being Moscow's eyes and ears. But his clandestine mission as a sleeper agent was bound to end.
"The KGB, for some reason, got spooked and thought my cover was blown," said Barsky.
The message was clear. Jack Barsky was exposed and needed to return to Moscow.

Double agent
Jack Barsky's birth name is Albrecht Dittrich. When he first joined the KGB, he didn't see himself as a spy. Instead, he and other recruits thought of themselves as scouts for peace. The spies are the enemies of the West.

The KGB spy living the American Dream
Jack Barsky never intended for his story to get out. So for 10 years, Barsky assumed the identity of a dead child. He took the boy's name, birth certificate, and social security number. The mission was to infiltrate, extract secrets and get out. But eventually, his years as a sleeper agent were exposed to the world.
Hear the true story of this KGB's spy career came to an end.

Special Thanks to
Kellette Elliott for the custom collage artwork. Purchase a t-shirt with this episode's artwork here.

Story idea?
If you have a story to share, email Javier at info [at] pretendradio [dot] org.
For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.
To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate
Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this podcast episode</p><h1>A conversation with Jack Barsky, a former KGB spy.</h1><p>For 10 years, <a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwilp5PRz6f1AhWuneAKHdb7BOMQFnoECA0QAQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FJack_Barsky&amp;usg=AOvVaw3BrR-l1O1CnE-VrBdDnJ_v">Jack Barsky</a> was a sleeper agent spying for the Soviet Union. His job was to obtain secret or confidential information from inside the United States any way he could.</p><p><br></p><p>The KGB Spy</p><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiP1pjdz6f1AhV5STABHSeCAxoQFnoECAwQAQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fjackbarsky.com%2F&amp;usg=AOvVaw3MDufug6jBnVGYUoWIO3bF">Jack Barsky</a> spied on the United States from 1978 to 1988. And that entire time, his primary mission was to become an American. And that's precisely what he did. He moved to New York City, got a job as a computer programmer, and lived an unremarkable life. He made friends and other relationships while being Moscow's eyes and ears. But his clandestine mission as a sleeper agent was bound to end.</p><p>"The KGB, for some reason, got spooked and thought my cover was blown," said Barsky.</p><p>The message was clear. Jack Barsky was exposed and needed to return to Moscow.</p><p><br></p><p>Double agent</p><p>Jack Barsky's birth name is Albrecht Dittrich. When he first joined the KGB, he didn't see himself as a spy. Instead, he and other recruits thought of themselves as scouts for peace. The spies are the enemies of the West.</p><p><br></p><p>The KGB spy living the American Dream</p><p>Jack Barsky never intended for his story to get out. So for 10 years, Barsky assumed the identity of a dead child. He took the boy's name, birth certificate, and social security number. The mission was to infiltrate, extract secrets and get out. But eventually, his years as a sleeper agent were exposed to the world.</p><p>Hear the true story of this KGB's spy career came to an end.</p><p><br></p><p>Special Thanks to</p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/kelletteworks/?hl=en">Kellette Elliott</a> for the custom collage artwork. <a href="https://pretend-radio-3.creator-spring.com/">Purchase a t-shirt with this episode's artwork here</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>Story idea?</p><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier at info [at] pretendradio [dot] org.</p><p>For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.</p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate</p><p>Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S811: The Truth About Santa</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>WARNING: This episode contains details about Santa Claus that younger listeners will not appreciate. If you have little ones around, plugin your headphones. 

Happy Holidays, everyone!
Javier

Check out the Christmas Past podcast with Brian Earl for more magical fun listening.
https://christmaspast.media/
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      <pubDate>Fri, 24 Dec 2021 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Truth About Santa</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>8</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>WARNING: This episode contains details about Santa Claus that younger listeners will not appreciate. If you have little ones around, plugin your headphones. 

Happy Holidays, everyone!
Javier

Check out the Christmas Past podcast with Brian Earl for more magical fun listening.
https://christmaspast.media/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>WARNING: This episode contains details about Santa Claus that younger listeners will not appreciate. If you have little ones around, plugin your headphones. </strong></p><p><br></p><p>Happy Holidays, everyone!</p><p>Javier</p><p><br></p><p>Check out the Christmas Past podcast with Brian Earl for more magical fun listening.</p><p>https://christmaspast.media/</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S810: The Hypnotist part 4 - Alien Abductions and Hypnosis</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/episode/a-respected-harvard-psychologist-john-mack-uses-hypnosis-to-recover-memories-of-possible-alien-abductions-the-hypnotist-part-4/</link>
      <description>John Mack, a respected Harvard psychologist, uses hypnosis to recover memories of alien abductions.

Alien abductions and hypnosis
Like they say on the X-files, "the truth is out there." Throughout history, people claimed to have seen many unexplainable things. Some have tangible proof, like the leaked U.S. Navy cock pit videos chasing unidentified flying objects. Other experiencers don't have any evidence at all. The only thing they have are their memories. Maybe the answer is buried deep in our subconscious? 

In today's episode, we'll introduce you to a Harvard professor who used hypnosis to help people recover memories from possible alien abductions. Sure, there are people out there who claim they encountered beings from another planet just to seek attention. But, others carry these experiences in secret. 

John Mac and psychology of alien abductions
John Mack was a respected Harvard psychologist who became fixated with people claiming to have been abducted or encountered alien beings. Ralph Blumenthal recently wrote John Mack's biography titled, "Believer: Alien Encounters, hard science, and the passion of John Mack." 

Blumenthal says that at first, Dr. John Mack tried to explain these encounters through other means. First, are these people insane? Are they hucksters looking to make some money? But Dr. Mack found their stories to be credible. Most of his patients never came out publicly with their stories. Instead, they sought his help to grapple with their tormented past. In the 1990s, John Mack conducted hundreds of interviews with men and women of all ages who claimed they had not just one but recurring alien encounters. And one method he used during these interviews was hypnosis. 

Alien abductions or sleep paralysis?
Maybe there's a more straightforward medical explanation for all of this. What if some people weren't experiencing an abduction but sleep paralysis? Sleep paralysis is that feeling you get when you're in between sleep and being awake. You're awake, but you can't control or move your body. 

Studies have shown that Sleep paralysis is much more common than we think. Studies suggest at least 40 percent or 50 percent of all people experience sleep paralysis at least once. However, John Mack argues that his patients did not experience sleep. Instead, many of his patients experienced encounters in daylight and were wide awake.

Special Thanks to
Kellette Elliott for the custom collage artwork
 
You can purchase the Hypnotist t-shirt here
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Dec 2021 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Hypnotist part 4 - Alien Abductions and Hypnosis</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>8</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>John Mack, a respected Harvard psychologist, uses hypnosis to recover memories of alien abductions.

Alien abductions and hypnosis
Like they say on the X-files, "the truth is out there." Throughout history, people claimed to have seen many unexplainable things. Some have tangible proof, like the leaked U.S. Navy cock pit videos chasing unidentified flying objects. Other experiencers don't have any evidence at all. The only thing they have are their memories. Maybe the answer is buried deep in our subconscious? 

In today's episode, we'll introduce you to a Harvard professor who used hypnosis to help people recover memories from possible alien abductions. Sure, there are people out there who claim they encountered beings from another planet just to seek attention. But, others carry these experiences in secret. 

John Mac and psychology of alien abductions
John Mack was a respected Harvard psychologist who became fixated with people claiming to have been abducted or encountered alien beings. Ralph Blumenthal recently wrote John Mack's biography titled, "Believer: Alien Encounters, hard science, and the passion of John Mack." 

Blumenthal says that at first, Dr. John Mack tried to explain these encounters through other means. First, are these people insane? Are they hucksters looking to make some money? But Dr. Mack found their stories to be credible. Most of his patients never came out publicly with their stories. Instead, they sought his help to grapple with their tormented past. In the 1990s, John Mack conducted hundreds of interviews with men and women of all ages who claimed they had not just one but recurring alien encounters. And one method he used during these interviews was hypnosis. 

Alien abductions or sleep paralysis?
Maybe there's a more straightforward medical explanation for all of this. What if some people weren't experiencing an abduction but sleep paralysis? Sleep paralysis is that feeling you get when you're in between sleep and being awake. You're awake, but you can't control or move your body. 

Studies have shown that Sleep paralysis is much more common than we think. Studies suggest at least 40 percent or 50 percent of all people experience sleep paralysis at least once. However, John Mack argues that his patients did not experience sleep. Instead, many of his patients experienced encounters in daylight and were wide awake.

Special Thanks to
Kellette Elliott for the custom collage artwork
 
You can purchase the Hypnotist t-shirt here
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<h1>John Mack, a respected Harvard psychologist, uses hypnosis to recover memories of alien abductions.</h1><p><br></p><p>Alien abductions and hypnosis</p><p>Like they say on the X-files, "the truth is out there." Throughout history, people claimed to have seen many unexplainable things. Some have tangible proof, like the <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/26/us/politics/ufo-sightings-navy-pilots.html">leaked U.S. Navy cock pit videos</a> chasing unidentified flying objects. Other experiencers don't have any evidence at all. The only thing they have are their memories. Maybe the answer is buried deep in our subconscious? </p><p><br></p><p>In today's episode, we'll introduce you to a Harvard professor who used hypnosis to help people recover memories from possible alien abductions. Sure, there are people out there who claim they encountered beings from another planet just to seek attention. But, others carry these experiences in secret. </p><p><br></p><p>John Mac and psychology of alien abductions</p><p>John Mack was a respected Harvard psychologist who became fixated with people claiming to have been abducted or encountered alien beings. Ralph Blumenthal recently wrote John Mack's biography titled, "Believer: Alien Encounters, hard science, and the passion of John Mack." </p><p><br></p><p>Blumenthal says that at first, Dr. John Mack tried to explain these encounters through other means. First, are these people insane? Are they hucksters looking to make some money? But Dr. Mack found their stories to be credible. Most of his patients never came out publicly with their stories. Instead, they sought his help to grapple with their tormented past. In the 1990s, John Mack conducted hundreds of interviews with men and women of all ages who claimed they had not just one but recurring alien encounters. And one method he used during these interviews was hypnosis. </p><p><br></p><p>Alien abductions or sleep paralysis?</p><p>Maybe there's a more straightforward medical explanation for all of this. What if some people weren't experiencing an abduction but sleep paralysis? Sleep paralysis is that feeling you get when you're in between sleep and being awake. You're awake, but you can't control or move your body. </p><p><br></p><p>Studies have shown that Sleep paralysis is much more common than we think. Studies suggest at least 40 percent or 50 percent of all people experience sleep paralysis at least once. However, John Mack argues that his patients did not experience sleep. Instead, many of his patients experienced encounters in daylight and were wide awake.</p><p><br></p><p>Special Thanks to</p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/kelletteworks/?hl=en">Kellette Elliott</a> for the custom collage artwork</p><p> </p><p><a href="https://pretend-radio-3.creator-spring.com/">You can purchase the Hypnotist t-shirt here</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S809: The Hypnotist part 3 - Is hypnosis admissible in court?</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/episode/can-hypnosis-be-used-in-court-the-hypnotist-podcast</link>
      <description>Is hypnosis used in criminal investigations?
Believe it or not, law enforcement and intelligence agencies in the US routinely use hypnosis as a form of forensic evidence. And in some states, evidence gained from forensic hypnosis is admissible in court. Even the federal government allows hypnosis under certain circumstances. 

What is investigative hypnosis?
When law enforcement hits a dead end, they sometimes rely on investigative hypnosis to solve the case. Specially trained law enforcement officers guide witnesses into a hypnotic trance to better recall a crime. But are the memories they recall even accurate? Medical experts say memories recovered after hypnosis can't be considered fact. 

Texas leads the country in investigative hypnosis.
Many states ban the practice because its use leads to wrongful convictions. But one state leads the country in prosecuting citizens using hypnosis as a primary form of evidence. That state is Texas. 

The Dallas Daily News reports that at least 11 people in Texas were executed in cases where police used hypnosis. Today, 4 people are on Texas death row because of this practice. 

The Memory Room
Dave Boucher and Lauren Mcgaughy are investigative reporters who spent more than a year investigating the story you're about to listen to. Their two-part series is titled "The Memory Room." It's about the case of Helen Barbre, a Texas college student who was savagely attacked in the middle of the night. She couldn't recognize her attacker, so she used hypnosis to identify him. 

Here's a link to their series titled "The Memory Room":
https://interactives.dallasnews.com/2020/memory-room-dallas-texas-police-use-investigative-hypnosis-to-convict-life-death-row/

Featured Promo:
Caper - An Original Multilingual True Crime Series

Special Thanks to:
Kellette Elliott for the custom collage artwork
You can purchase the Hypnotist t-shirt here

To advertise on this show visit:
 https://www.advertisecast.com/Pretend
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Dec 2021 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Hypnotist part 3 - Is hypnosis admissible in court?</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>8</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Is hypnosis used in criminal investigations?
Believe it or not, law enforcement and intelligence agencies in the US routinely use hypnosis as a form of forensic evidence. And in some states, evidence gained from forensic hypnosis is admissible in court. Even the federal government allows hypnosis under certain circumstances. 

What is investigative hypnosis?
When law enforcement hits a dead end, they sometimes rely on investigative hypnosis to solve the case. Specially trained law enforcement officers guide witnesses into a hypnotic trance to better recall a crime. But are the memories they recall even accurate? Medical experts say memories recovered after hypnosis can't be considered fact. 

Texas leads the country in investigative hypnosis.
Many states ban the practice because its use leads to wrongful convictions. But one state leads the country in prosecuting citizens using hypnosis as a primary form of evidence. That state is Texas. 

The Dallas Daily News reports that at least 11 people in Texas were executed in cases where police used hypnosis. Today, 4 people are on Texas death row because of this practice. 

The Memory Room
Dave Boucher and Lauren Mcgaughy are investigative reporters who spent more than a year investigating the story you're about to listen to. Their two-part series is titled "The Memory Room." It's about the case of Helen Barbre, a Texas college student who was savagely attacked in the middle of the night. She couldn't recognize her attacker, so she used hypnosis to identify him. 

Here's a link to their series titled "The Memory Room":
https://interactives.dallasnews.com/2020/memory-room-dallas-texas-police-use-investigative-hypnosis-to-convict-life-death-row/

Featured Promo:
Caper - An Original Multilingual True Crime Series

Special Thanks to:
Kellette Elliott for the custom collage artwork
You can purchase the Hypnotist t-shirt here

To advertise on this show visit:
 https://www.advertisecast.com/Pretend
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Is hypnosis used in criminal investigations?</p><p>Believe it or not, law enforcement and intelligence agencies in the US routinely use hypnosis as a form of forensic evidence. And in some states, evidence gained from forensic hypnosis is admissible in court. Even the <a href="https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-288-admissibility-trial">federal government allows hypnosis</a> under certain circumstances. </p><p><br></p><p>What is investigative hypnosis?</p><p>When law enforcement hits a dead end, they sometimes rely on investigative hypnosis to solve the case. Specially trained law enforcement officers guide witnesses into a hypnotic trance to better recall a crime. But are the memories they recall even accurate? Medical experts say memories recovered after hypnosis can't be considered fact. </p><p><br></p><p>Texas leads the country in investigative hypnosis.</p><p>Many states ban the practice because its use leads to wrongful convictions. But one state leads the country in prosecuting citizens using hypnosis as a primary form of evidence. That state is Texas. </p><p><br></p><p>The Dallas Daily News reports that at least 11 people in Texas were executed in cases where police used hypnosis. Today, 4 people are on Texas death row because of this practice. </p><p><br></p><p>The Memory Room</p><p>Dave Boucher and Lauren Mcgaughy are investigative reporters who spent more than a year investigating the story you're about to listen to. Their two-part series is titled "The Memory Room." It's about the case of Helen Barbre, a Texas college student who was savagely attacked in the middle of the night. She couldn't recognize her attacker, so she used hypnosis to identify him. </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Here's a link to their series titled "The Memory Room":</strong></p><p><a href="https://interactives.dallasnews.com/2020/memory-room-dallas-texas-police-use-investigative-hypnosis-to-convict-life-death-row/">https://interactives.dallasnews.com/2020/memory-room-dallas-texas-police-use-investigative-hypnosis-to-convict-life-death-row/</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Featured Promo:</strong></p><p><a href="https://ochentastudio.com/caper-podcast">Caper - An Original Multilingual True Crime Series</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Special Thanks to:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/kelletteworks/?hl=en">Kellette Elliott</a> for the custom collage artwork</p><p><a href="https://pretend-radio-3.creator-spring.com/">You can purchase the Hypnotist t-shirt here</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>To advertise on this show visit:</strong></p><p> <a href="https://www.advertisecast.com/Pretend">https://www.advertisecast.com/Pretend</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3105</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S808: The Hypnotist part 2</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/episode/hypnotic-regression-what-is-it-and-how-does-it-work-the-hypnotist-part-2/</link>
      <description>I got hypnotized to recall a childhood trauma.
In part one of The Hypnotist, I interviewed several hypnotherapists to answer the question: what is hypnosis? The short answer is a trancelike state that resembles sleep but is induced by a person whose suggestions are readily accepted by the subject.*

In part two, I try hypnosis for myself to see what all the fuss is about. You see, when I was 8-months old, I pulled the cord of an electric rice cooker and suffered 3rd-degree burns on the left side of my body. I don’t remember a thing. In this episode, I’ll let you listen to my hypnotic regression session. Then, hear for yourself if I was able to recover these lost memories.

Special Thanks to
Kellette Elliott for the custom collage artwork
 
You can purchase the Hypnotist t-shirt here
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2021 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Hypnotist part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>8</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>I got hypnotized to recall a childhood trauma.
In part one of The Hypnotist, I interviewed several hypnotherapists to answer the question: what is hypnosis? The short answer is a trancelike state that resembles sleep but is induced by a person whose suggestions are readily accepted by the subject.*

In part two, I try hypnosis for myself to see what all the fuss is about. You see, when I was 8-months old, I pulled the cord of an electric rice cooker and suffered 3rd-degree burns on the left side of my body. I don’t remember a thing. In this episode, I’ll let you listen to my hypnotic regression session. Then, hear for yourself if I was able to recover these lost memories.

Special Thanks to
Kellette Elliott for the custom collage artwork
 
You can purchase the Hypnotist t-shirt here
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<h1>I got hypnotized to recall a childhood trauma.</h1><p>In part one of The Hypnotist, I interviewed several hypnotherapists to answer the question: what is hypnosis? The short answer is a trancelike state that resembles sleep but is induced by a person whose suggestions are readily accepted by the subject.<a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiZr8Dv5on0AhUwhXIEHZYDAW4QFnoECBEQAw&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.merriam-webster.com%2Fdictionary%2Fhypnosis&amp;usg=AOvVaw06DLNNKuH3AeJ07uR850fc">*</a></p><p><br></p><p>In part two, I try hypnosis for myself to see what all the fuss is about. You see, when I was 8-months old, I pulled the cord of an electric rice cooker and suffered 3rd-degree burns on the left side of my body. I don’t remember a thing. In this episode, I’ll let you listen to my hypnotic regression session. Then, hear for yourself if I was able to recover these lost memories.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Special Thanks to</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/kelletteworks/?hl=en">Kellette Elliott</a> for the custom collage artwork</p><p> </p><p><a href="https://pretend-radio-3.creator-spring.com/">You can purchase the Hypnotist t-shirt here</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S807: The Hypnotist part 1</title>
      <description>I want to undergo hypnotic regression, experience it for myself, and try to unlock memories from my childhood that should probably never resurface. Can hypnosis help me recover that memory? 
So, what the hell is hypnosis anyway? 
What is hypnosis? Is hypnosis even a real thing? The word "hypno" comes from the Greek word "hypnus," which means sleep. And the suffix "osis" describes a process or state. So, is hypnosis a state of hibernation? Or is it something in between? looked it up.  
Webster's dictionary states that hypnosis is "a trancelike state that resembles sleep but is induced by a person whose suggestions are readily accepted by the subject." Another dictionary says that hypnosis is "the induction of a state of consciousness." A person apparently loses the power of voluntary action and is highly responsive to suggestion or direction. It makes it sound like the person under hypnosis is some kind of puppet.  
But maybe these dictionaries have it all wrong? What if hypnosis was another word for relaxation or meditation? I guess my point is that two freaking dictionaries can't agree on a definition; how are we supposed to know what it really is? 

Can regression therapy help you remember a forgotten memory?
Regression therapy is a hypnotic treatment that focuses on recovering lost memories that are getting in the way of our everyday lives.
When I was 8 months old, I burned almost 30% of my body. I'm sure no one really knew if I was going to make it. One study shows that children younger than 48 months with burns on more than 30% of the body surface had a higher mortality rate than adults with identical injuries. But survival rates after a burn have significantly improved over the years. Even children with more significant burns can survive.
I've imagined this accident over and over in my head all of my life. Ever since I can remember, I've wondered what it was like. I know; it's morbid. But I've been curious. So, I contacted a local hypnotherapist to see if he could help me access these lost memories.
But how do you access memories from when you were a toddler? Ask any medical professional or psychologist, and they will tell you that most adults can't remember anything before their third birthday. It's called Childhood Amnesia. That's because the hippocampus, the part of the brain that helps us recall life experiences, hasn't fully developed. Another reason is that kids don't start really talking until about three.
This podcast is about deception. Typically, the stories are about someone else pulling the wool over our eyes. But when it comes to hypnosis, is our mind the one playing tricks on us?

Listen to part 2 now on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/hypnotist-part-2-58412331

Have you undergone hypnosis?
Send me a voice memo with your story at javier@pretendradio.org.

Special Thanks to
Kellette Elliott for the custom collage artwork
 

You can purchase the Hypnotist t-shirt here
 
Preview Ravi Patil's new podcast Institrve wherever you get your podcasts institrve.com
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2021 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Hypnotist part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>8</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>I want to undergo hypnotic regression, experience it for myself, and try to unlock memories from my childhood that should probably never resurface. Can hypnosis help me recover that memory? 
So, what the hell is hypnosis anyway? 
What is hypnosis? Is hypnosis even a real thing? The word "hypno" comes from the Greek word "hypnus," which means sleep. And the suffix "osis" describes a process or state. So, is hypnosis a state of hibernation? Or is it something in between? looked it up.  
Webster's dictionary states that hypnosis is "a trancelike state that resembles sleep but is induced by a person whose suggestions are readily accepted by the subject." Another dictionary says that hypnosis is "the induction of a state of consciousness." A person apparently loses the power of voluntary action and is highly responsive to suggestion or direction. It makes it sound like the person under hypnosis is some kind of puppet.  
But maybe these dictionaries have it all wrong? What if hypnosis was another word for relaxation or meditation? I guess my point is that two freaking dictionaries can't agree on a definition; how are we supposed to know what it really is? 

Can regression therapy help you remember a forgotten memory?
Regression therapy is a hypnotic treatment that focuses on recovering lost memories that are getting in the way of our everyday lives.
When I was 8 months old, I burned almost 30% of my body. I'm sure no one really knew if I was going to make it. One study shows that children younger than 48 months with burns on more than 30% of the body surface had a higher mortality rate than adults with identical injuries. But survival rates after a burn have significantly improved over the years. Even children with more significant burns can survive.
I've imagined this accident over and over in my head all of my life. Ever since I can remember, I've wondered what it was like. I know; it's morbid. But I've been curious. So, I contacted a local hypnotherapist to see if he could help me access these lost memories.
But how do you access memories from when you were a toddler? Ask any medical professional or psychologist, and they will tell you that most adults can't remember anything before their third birthday. It's called Childhood Amnesia. That's because the hippocampus, the part of the brain that helps us recall life experiences, hasn't fully developed. Another reason is that kids don't start really talking until about three.
This podcast is about deception. Typically, the stories are about someone else pulling the wool over our eyes. But when it comes to hypnosis, is our mind the one playing tricks on us?

Listen to part 2 now on Patreon:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/hypnotist-part-2-58412331

Have you undergone hypnosis?
Send me a voice memo with your story at javier@pretendradio.org.

Special Thanks to
Kellette Elliott for the custom collage artwork
 

You can purchase the Hypnotist t-shirt here
 
Preview Ravi Patil's new podcast Institrve wherever you get your podcasts institrve.com
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I want to undergo hypnotic regression, experience it for myself, and try to unlock memories from my childhood that should probably never resurface. Can hypnosis help me recover that memory? </p><p><strong>So, what the hell is hypnosis anyway? </strong></p><p>What is hypnosis? Is hypnosis even a real thing? The word "hypno" comes from the Greek word "hypnus," which means sleep. And the suffix "osis" describes a process or state. So, is hypnosis a state of hibernation? Or is it something in between? looked it up.  </p><p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiZr8Dv5on0AhUwhXIEHZYDAW4QFnoECBEQAw&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.merriam-webster.com%2Fdictionary%2Fhypnosis&amp;usg=AOvVaw06DLNNKuH3AeJ07uR850fc">Webster's dictionary</a> states that hypnosis is <em>"a trancelike state that resembles sleep but is induced by a person whose suggestions are readily accepted by the subject." </em>Another dictionary says that hypnosis is <em>"the induction of a state of consciousness."</em> A person apparently loses the power of voluntary action and is highly responsive to suggestion or direction. It makes it sound like the person under hypnosis is some kind of puppet.  </p><p>But maybe these dictionaries have it all wrong? What if hypnosis was another word for relaxation or meditation? I guess my point is that two freaking dictionaries can't agree on a definition; how are we supposed to know what it really is? </p><p><br></p><p>Can regression therapy help you remember a forgotten memory?</p><p>Regression therapy is a hypnotic treatment that focuses on recovering lost memories that are getting in the way of our everyday lives.</p><p>When I was 8 months old, I burned almost 30% of my body. I'm sure no one really knew if I was going to make it. One study shows that children younger than 48 months with burns on more than 30% of the body surface had a higher mortality rate than adults with identical injuries. But survival rates after a burn have significantly improved over the years. Even children with more significant burns can <a href="https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/348833">survive</a>.</p><p>I've imagined this accident over and over in my head all of my life. Ever since I can remember, I've wondered what it was like. I know; it's morbid. But I've been curious. So, I contacted a local hypnotherapist to see if he could help me access these lost memories.</p><p>But how do you access memories from when you were a toddler? Ask any medical professional or psychologist, and they will tell you that most adults can't remember anything before their third birthday. It's called Childhood Amnesia. That's because the hippocampus, the part of the brain that helps us recall life experiences, hasn't fully developed. Another reason is that kids don't start really talking until about three.</p><p>This podcast is about deception. Typically, the stories are about someone else pulling the wool over our eyes. But when it comes to hypnosis, is our mind the one playing tricks on us?</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Listen to part 2 now on Patreon:</strong></p><p>https://www.patreon.com/posts/hypnotist-part-2-58412331</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Have you undergone hypnosis?</strong></p><p>Send me a voice memo with your story at <a href="%20javier@pretendradio.org">javier@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Special Thanks to</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/kelletteworks/?hl=en">Kellette Elliott</a> for the custom collage artwork</p><p> </p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://pretend-radio-3.creator-spring.com/">You can purchase the Hypnotist t-shirt here</a></p><p> </p><p>Preview Ravi Patil's new podcast Institrve wherever you get your podcasts <a href="http://institrve.com">institrve.com</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S806: The Real Vampires</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/the-real-vampires-who-walk-among-us-john-browning</link>
      <description>John Browning investigates real blood-sucking vampires—people who need human blood to survive. 

In today's episode, we will talk about real people who claim to be real vampires. 

Self-harm
You know, we bantered about tapping into veins and arteries from the vantage point of vampires feasting on blood. But if you remove the word vampire from our conversation, it starts sounding like a much more familiar crisis...self-harm.  

It's not uncommon for some of us with depression or anxiety to inflict pain on ourselves. The physical wounds hurt, but it's nowhere near as painful as the emotions inside our heads and hearts. So if you're listening to this, there are different places you can seek help. First, talk to a pro. You can use online counselors like BetterHelp, a real-life therapist, or even reach out to a friend. There are also crisis lines where you can text and talk to an actual human for free. Text HOME to 741741, Again text HOME to 741741. I'll have a list of numbers you can text for my international friends in the show notes. 

https://www.crisistextline.org/

Get Help

US: Text 741741

CA: Text 741741

UK: Text 85258

Ireland: 50808


Sophrpsyne
Music featured in this episode is from Sophrosyne. Check out their music on Spotify.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2021 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Real Vampires</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>8</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>John Browning investigates real blood-sucking vampires—people who need human blood to survive. 

In today's episode, we will talk about real people who claim to be real vampires. 

Self-harm
You know, we bantered about tapping into veins and arteries from the vantage point of vampires feasting on blood. But if you remove the word vampire from our conversation, it starts sounding like a much more familiar crisis...self-harm.  

It's not uncommon for some of us with depression or anxiety to inflict pain on ourselves. The physical wounds hurt, but it's nowhere near as painful as the emotions inside our heads and hearts. So if you're listening to this, there are different places you can seek help. First, talk to a pro. You can use online counselors like BetterHelp, a real-life therapist, or even reach out to a friend. There are also crisis lines where you can text and talk to an actual human for free. Text HOME to 741741, Again text HOME to 741741. I'll have a list of numbers you can text for my international friends in the show notes. 

https://www.crisistextline.org/

Get Help

US: Text 741741

CA: Text 741741

UK: Text 85258

Ireland: 50808


Sophrpsyne
Music featured in this episode is from Sophrosyne. Check out their music on Spotify.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>John Browning investigates real blood-sucking vampires—people who need human blood to survive. </p><p><br></p><p>In today's episode, we will talk about real people who claim to be real vampires. </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Self-harm</strong></p><p>You know, we bantered about tapping into veins and arteries from the vantage point of vampires feasting on blood. But if you remove the word vampire from our conversation, it starts sounding like a much more familiar crisis...self-harm.  </p><p><br></p><p>It's not uncommon for some of us with depression or anxiety to inflict pain on ourselves. The physical wounds hurt, but it's nowhere near as painful as the emotions inside our heads and hearts. So if you're listening to this, there are different places you can seek help. First, talk to a pro. You can use online counselors like BetterHelp, a real-life therapist, or even reach out to a friend. There are also crisis lines where you can text and talk to an actual human for free. Text HOME to 741741, Again text HOME to 741741. I'll have a list of numbers you can text for my international friends in the show notes. </p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.crisistextline.org/">https://www.crisistextline.org/</a></p><ul>
<li>Get Help</li>
<li>US: Text 741741</li>
<li><a href="https://kidshelpphone.ca/text/">CA: Text 741741</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.giveusashout.org/">UK: Text 85258</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.crisistextline.ie/">Ireland: 50808</a></li>
</ul><p><br></p><p>Sophrpsyne</p><p>Music featured in this episode is from Sophrosyne. <a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/7vMbR5kl3EPge34VGcqXHB?si=tlaombXFSZ64rmUMPFunHA">Check out their music on Spotify.</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2454</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Bonus: Michael plays air guitar</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/michael-plays-air-guitar/</link>
      <description>Michael shreds a mean "pretend" guitar. He's also a PRETEND podcast supporter on Patreon.

If you want to co-host an episode with me, consider supporting the podcast on Patreon/ Patreon Guest Co-host: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2021 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>8</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Michael shreds a mean "pretend" guitar. He's also a PRETEND podcast supporter on Patreon.

If you want to co-host an episode with me, consider supporting the podcast on Patreon/ Patreon Guest Co-host: https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Michael shreds a mean "pretend" guitar. He's also a PRETEND podcast supporter on Patreon.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>If you want to co-host an episode with me, consider supporting the podcast on Patreon/ Patreon Guest Co-host: </strong><a href="https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&amp;redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0oxYlBPOTFOYnBfN1JIY2RmOWMyeEFVcVRmZ3xBQ3Jtc0trZmxsVFlSV0ZKY3ptbWxXVUtrUXI3aTRhTUxzc3d1aDV6cHR4RlUtN1dwRmhWc040YTRUdjh2U0hkR0lLcVBiTmhGZFN6c21URWl1bWFzWUp3cXh5THZFSXNVUmowUE9UWWpzOExkWlhUNUFfcUNDRQ&amp;q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patreon.com%2Fpretendradio"><strong>https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio</strong></a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1283</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S805: The King of Lies</title>
      <description>Lee King spilled the beans on his family's secret—leading to his father’s arrest.
Hannah’s boyfriend, Lee King, is hiding a big secret; and it’s not just about his multiple fiances. It turns out his father, “Fast” Eddie Maher is an international fugitive.

Fast Eddie, an international fugitive, was on the run for 20 years until his son gave him up.
Today’s episode was brought to us by a long-time PRETEND listener, Kim Evans.
Kim knew her daughter’s new boyfriend was no good. So, she did everything in her power to expose him. It turns out, he was hiding a secret that would eventually lead to the arrest of his father, Eddie Maher.

What’s your PRETEND story?
If you have a story to tell, do what Kim Evans did and send me an email at info [at] pretendradio [dot] org. You never know; your story could make it on the show.

The Christmas Lie
Also, I’m working on a Christmas episode. Do you remember when you learned about the big lie? You know, the one about the big guy who magically squeezes down the chimney at night and leaves gifts for children all over the world? You know which lie I’m talking about. If you have a fun Christmas story, send it my way.

Thank you for your support
Also, I want to thank Alex, Beth Cail and Corey Trevorson for supporting the show. I really couldn’t do this show without you.
Want to help keep PRETEND going? Buy me a coffee or throw a few dollars in the hat, head on over to patreon.com/pretendradio.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2021 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The King of Lies</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>8</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Lee King spilled the beans on his family's secret—leading to his father’s arrest.
Hannah’s boyfriend, Lee King, is hiding a big secret; and it’s not just about his multiple fiances. It turns out his father, “Fast” Eddie Maher is an international fugitive.

Fast Eddie, an international fugitive, was on the run for 20 years until his son gave him up.
Today’s episode was brought to us by a long-time PRETEND listener, Kim Evans.
Kim knew her daughter’s new boyfriend was no good. So, she did everything in her power to expose him. It turns out, he was hiding a secret that would eventually lead to the arrest of his father, Eddie Maher.

What’s your PRETEND story?
If you have a story to tell, do what Kim Evans did and send me an email at info [at] pretendradio [dot] org. You never know; your story could make it on the show.

The Christmas Lie
Also, I’m working on a Christmas episode. Do you remember when you learned about the big lie? You know, the one about the big guy who magically squeezes down the chimney at night and leaves gifts for children all over the world? You know which lie I’m talking about. If you have a fun Christmas story, send it my way.

Thank you for your support
Also, I want to thank Alex, Beth Cail and Corey Trevorson for supporting the show. I really couldn’t do this show without you.
Want to help keep PRETEND going? Buy me a coffee or throw a few dollars in the hat, head on over to patreon.com/pretendradio.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Lee King spilled the beans on his family's secret—leading to his father’s arrest.</p><p>Hannah’s boyfriend, Lee King, is hiding a big secret; and it’s not just about his multiple fiances. It turns out his father, “Fast” Eddie Maher is an international fugitive.</p><p><br></p><p>Fast Eddie, an international fugitive, was on the run for 20 years until his son gave him up.</p><p>Today’s episode was brought to us by a long-time PRETEND listener, Kim Evans.</p><p>Kim knew her daughter’s new boyfriend was no good. So, she did everything in her power to expose him. It turns out, he was hiding a secret that would eventually lead to the arrest of his father, Eddie Maher.</p><p><br></p><p>What’s your PRETEND story?</p><p>If you have a story to tell, do what Kim Evans did and <a href="https://pretendradio.org/contact-us/">send me an email</a> at info [at] pretendradio [dot] org. You never know; your story could make it on the show.</p><p><br></p><p>The Christmas Lie</p><p>Also, I’m working on a Christmas episode. Do you remember when you learned about the big lie? You know, the one about the big guy who magically squeezes down the chimney at night and leaves gifts for children all over the world? You know which lie I’m talking about. If you have a fun Christmas story, send it my way.</p><p><br></p><p>Thank you for your support</p><p>Also, I want to thank Alex, Beth Cail and Corey Trevorson for supporting the show. I really couldn’t do this show without you.</p><p>Want to help keep PRETEND going? Buy me a coffee or throw a few dollars in the hat, head on over to <a href="http://patreon.com/pretendradio">patreon.com/pretendradio</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2103</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S804: The Ransomware Negotiator </title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>Ransomware. Does that term ring a bell?
Even if you've never heard those words before, trust me, most of us have experienced Ransomware one way or another.
If you live on the East Coast, you remember waiting long hours at the gas pump this past May. That's because a hacking group known as DarkSide hacked the Colonial Pipeline. The hackers demanded a ransom for 75 bitcoins which is equivalent to $4.4 million.
How did the hackers break into the oil company's system? Easy. Some employees used the same password they used on another account that was previously hacked.
And guess what? Colonial Pipeline paid the ransom and the hackers. $4.4. million dollars—gone, just like that.
The Justice Department was able to eventually recover half of the money, $2.2 million.
When we hear about news like this, we mostly ignore it. Until we run out of gas and everyone panics. But once we were able to fill up our tanks again, we all moved on and put it behind us.
We often ignore stories like these because, on the surface, it sounds like hackers are attacking large corporations with tons of cash. They've got the money.
But what if I tell you that the real victims here are not just the companies, but really it's you and me. What do you think happens if the company that got hacked decides not to pay the ransom?
If the company doesn't cave to the hacker's demands, the hacker will dump the company's data and make it publicly available on the dark web. By the way, the company's data is comprised of your social security number, date of birth, driver's license, and health insurance information... everything an identity thief needs to financially destroy you.
In today's episode, we'll talk to a guy whose job is to negotiate with these hackers. We're also going to talk about how you can protect your most valuable information.

Today's guests are:
Kurtis Minder - CEO and co-founder at GroupSense

Eva Velasquez - President and CEO, of the Identity Theft Resource Center


Freeze your credit to protect yourself from Ransomware
Equifax
Online: https://www.equifax.com/personal/credit-report-services/credit-freeze/
Experian
Online: https://www.experian.com/freeze/center.html
TransUnion
Online: https://service.transunion.com/dss/orderStep1_form.page

Use a password manager
1Password
KeePass Password

Want to be my co-host?

I want to send a sincere thank you to Rachel Sincere for supporting PRETEND on Patreon. Rachel, you're amazing. Also, as a reminder, I've added a new tier on Patreon. Not only will you get a PRETEND t-shirt and stickers. But these new supporters will get the chance to co-host a Patreon and YouTube episode with me. Like Michael V, who played in the Air Guitar World Championship. People pretending to play guitar! It's apparently a big thing. I'll let you know when that episode is out. So if you want to co-host with me, visit PRETEND on Patreon.com.

Cam Cokas
Finally, I want to end the show by sharing an indie artist I've been listening to lately. His name is Cam Cokas, and the track is called Don't Quit or Try. Please check out Cam Cokas on Spotify or wherever you get your jams.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2021 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Ransomware Negotiator</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>8</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Ransomware. Does that term ring a bell?
Even if you've never heard those words before, trust me, most of us have experienced Ransomware one way or another.
If you live on the East Coast, you remember waiting long hours at the gas pump this past May. That's because a hacking group known as DarkSide hacked the Colonial Pipeline. The hackers demanded a ransom for 75 bitcoins which is equivalent to $4.4 million.
How did the hackers break into the oil company's system? Easy. Some employees used the same password they used on another account that was previously hacked.
And guess what? Colonial Pipeline paid the ransom and the hackers. $4.4. million dollars—gone, just like that.
The Justice Department was able to eventually recover half of the money, $2.2 million.
When we hear about news like this, we mostly ignore it. Until we run out of gas and everyone panics. But once we were able to fill up our tanks again, we all moved on and put it behind us.
We often ignore stories like these because, on the surface, it sounds like hackers are attacking large corporations with tons of cash. They've got the money.
But what if I tell you that the real victims here are not just the companies, but really it's you and me. What do you think happens if the company that got hacked decides not to pay the ransom?
If the company doesn't cave to the hacker's demands, the hacker will dump the company's data and make it publicly available on the dark web. By the way, the company's data is comprised of your social security number, date of birth, driver's license, and health insurance information... everything an identity thief needs to financially destroy you.
In today's episode, we'll talk to a guy whose job is to negotiate with these hackers. We're also going to talk about how you can protect your most valuable information.

Today's guests are:
Kurtis Minder - CEO and co-founder at GroupSense

Eva Velasquez - President and CEO, of the Identity Theft Resource Center


Freeze your credit to protect yourself from Ransomware
Equifax
Online: https://www.equifax.com/personal/credit-report-services/credit-freeze/
Experian
Online: https://www.experian.com/freeze/center.html
TransUnion
Online: https://service.transunion.com/dss/orderStep1_form.page

Use a password manager
1Password
KeePass Password

Want to be my co-host?

I want to send a sincere thank you to Rachel Sincere for supporting PRETEND on Patreon. Rachel, you're amazing. Also, as a reminder, I've added a new tier on Patreon. Not only will you get a PRETEND t-shirt and stickers. But these new supporters will get the chance to co-host a Patreon and YouTube episode with me. Like Michael V, who played in the Air Guitar World Championship. People pretending to play guitar! It's apparently a big thing. I'll let you know when that episode is out. So if you want to co-host with me, visit PRETEND on Patreon.com.

Cam Cokas
Finally, I want to end the show by sharing an indie artist I've been listening to lately. His name is Cam Cokas, and the track is called Don't Quit or Try. Please check out Cam Cokas on Spotify or wherever you get your jams.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<h1>Ransomware. Does that term ring a bell?</h1><p>Even if you've never heard those words before, trust me, most of us have experienced Ransomware one way or another.</p><p>If you live on the East Coast, you remember waiting long hours at the gas pump this past May. That's because a hacking group known as DarkSide hacked the Colonial Pipeline. The hackers demanded a ransom for 75 bitcoins which is equivalent to $4.4 million.</p><p>How did the hackers break into the oil company's system? Easy. Some employees used the same password they used on another account that was previously hacked.</p><p>And guess what? Colonial Pipeline paid the ransom and the hackers. $4.4. million dollars—gone, just like that.</p><p>The Justice Department was able to eventually recover half of the money, $2.2 million.</p><p>When we hear about news like this, we mostly ignore it. Until we run out of gas and everyone panics. But once we were able to fill up our tanks again, we all moved on and put it behind us.</p><p>We often ignore stories like these because, on the surface, it sounds like hackers are attacking large corporations with tons of cash. They've got the money.</p><p>But what if I tell you that the real victims here are not just the companies, but really it's you and me. What do you think happens if the company that got hacked decides not to pay the ransom?</p><p>If the company doesn't cave to the hacker's demands, the hacker will dump the company's data and make it publicly available on the dark web. By the way, the company's data is comprised of your social security number, date of birth, driver's license, and health insurance information... everything an identity thief needs to financially destroy you.</p><p>In today's episode, we'll talk to a guy whose job is to negotiate with these hackers. We're also going to talk about how you can protect your most valuable information.</p><p><br></p><p>Today's guests are:</p><p><a href="https://www.groupsense.io/leadership-team">Kurtis Minder</a> - CEO and co-founder at GroupSense</p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.idtheftcenter.org/">Eva Velasquez</a> - President and CEO, of the Identity Theft Resource Center</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Freeze your credit to protect yourself from Ransomware</p><p><strong>Equifax</strong></p><p>Online: https://www.equifax.com/personal/credit-report-services/credit-freeze/</p><p><strong>Experian</strong></p><p>Online: https://www.experian.com/freeze/center.html</p><p><strong>TransUnion</strong></p><p>Online: <a href="https://service.transunion.com/dss/orderStep1_form.page">https://service.transunion.com/dss/orderStep1_form.page</a></p><p><br></p><p>Use a password manager</p><p><a href="https://1password.com">1Password</a></p><p><a href="https://keepass.info/">KeePass Password</a></p><p><br></p><p>Want to be my co-host?</p><p><br></p><p>I want to send a sincere thank you to Rachel Sincere for supporting PRETEND on Patreon. Rachel, you're amazing. Also, as a reminder, I've added a new tier on Patreon. Not only will you get a PRETEND t-shirt and stickers. But these new supporters will get the chance to co-host a Patreon and YouTube episode with me. Like Michael V, who played in the Air Guitar World Championship. People pretending to play guitar! It's apparently a big thing. I'll let you know when that episode is out. So if you want to co-host with me, visit <a href="https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio">PRETEND on Patreon.com</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>Cam Cokas</p><p>Finally, I want to end the show by sharing an indie artist I've been listening to lately. His name is Cam Cokas, and the track is called Don't Quit or Try. <strong>Please check out </strong><a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/5tLGHWFRX1WY6xi27jTFWt?si=j-I3Ub-4RB-woWFbsNR5Jw&amp;dl_branch=1"><strong>Cam Cokas on Spotify</strong></a><strong> or wherever you get your jams.</strong></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2319</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S803: The Sovereign Man</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/episode/s803-the-sovereign-man-sean-david-morton</link>
      <description>Sean David Morton was arrested in 2016 after being charged with more than 50 counts related to filing phony tax documents and bogus government bonds. He was also accused of conspiracy to defraud the IRS. These are similar tactics used by sovereign citizens—but Sean David Mortin doesn't like that label. 

You see, Sean David Morton's name is synonymous with the sovereign citizen movement. The New York Times wrote a whole piece about him titled, "How Sovereign Citizens Helped Swindle $1 billion from the government they disavow." So, when it comes to Sovereign Citizens, I thought Sean Mortin was the guy. But now he's telling me that sovereign citizens are idiots. Interesting. 

If you're unfamiliar with this sub-culture, you should check out my episode on Sovereign Citizens. To listen to my interview with Sean David Morton, check out the episode The Sovereign Man where ever you listen to podcasts. 
 
Patreon Bonus with Sean David Morton
To listen to more of my interview with Sean Morton, check out the FREE bonus episode on Patreon.
 
Story idea?
If you have a story to share, email Javier at info [at] pretendradio [dot] org.
For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.
To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate
Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2021 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Sovereign Man</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>8</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Sean David Morton was arrested in 2016 after being charged with more than 50 counts related to filing phony tax documents and bogus government bonds. He was also accused of conspiracy to defraud the IRS. These are similar tactics used by sovereign citizens—but Sean David Mortin doesn't like that label. 

You see, Sean David Morton's name is synonymous with the sovereign citizen movement. The New York Times wrote a whole piece about him titled, "How Sovereign Citizens Helped Swindle $1 billion from the government they disavow." So, when it comes to Sovereign Citizens, I thought Sean Mortin was the guy. But now he's telling me that sovereign citizens are idiots. Interesting. 

If you're unfamiliar with this sub-culture, you should check out my episode on Sovereign Citizens. To listen to my interview with Sean David Morton, check out the episode The Sovereign Man where ever you listen to podcasts. 
 
Patreon Bonus with Sean David Morton
To listen to more of my interview with Sean Morton, check out the FREE bonus episode on Patreon.
 
Story idea?
If you have a story to share, email Javier at info [at] pretendradio [dot] org.
For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.
To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate
Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sean David Morton <a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjf17DyoNryAhWcSTABHQnwDfgQFnoECAYQAQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.justice.gov%2Fusao-cdca%2Fpr%2Fhermosa-beach-couple-who-filed-fraudulent-tax-returns-and-passed-bogus-financial&amp;usg=AOvVaw081YCWIjiY7Nx1VS7RnoP4">was arrested in 2016</a> after being charged with more than 50 counts related to filing phony tax documents and bogus government bonds. He was also accused of conspiracy to defraud the IRS. These are similar tactics used by sovereign citizens—but Sean David Mortin doesn't like that label. </p><p><br></p><p>You see, Sean David Morton's name is synonymous with the sovereign citizen movement. The New York Times wrote a whole piece about him titled, "<a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwj-1d-smdryAhXzRzABHVs9Dp4QFnoECBUQAQ&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2019%2F03%2F29%2Fbusiness%2Fsovereign-citizens-financial-crime.html&amp;usg=AOvVaw0qGjwWwtfdSK0TmIBEBNun">How Sovereign Citizens Helped Swindle $1 billion from the government they disavow</a>." So, when it comes to Sovereign Citizens, I thought Sean Mortin was the guy. But now he's telling me that sovereign citizens are idiots. Interesting. </p><p><br></p><p>If you're unfamiliar with this sub-culture, you should check out my episode on Sovereign Citizens. To listen to my interview with Sean David Morton, check out the episode <a href="https://pretendradio.org/episode/the-sovereign-citizen/">The Sovereign Man</a> where ever you listen to podcasts. </p><p> </p><p><strong>Patreon Bonus with Sean David Morton</strong></p><p>To listen to more of my interview with Sean Morton, check out the <a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/sean-david-bonus-55553976?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&amp;utm_source=copy_to_clipboard&amp;utm_campaign=postshare"><strong>FREE</strong> bonus episode on Patreon.</a></p><p> </p><p><strong>Story idea?</strong></p><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier at info [at] pretendradio [dot] org.</p><p>For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.</p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate</p><p>Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2175</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S802: The Naked Sovereign Surgeon</title>
      <description>Where do sovereign citizens go when they need medical attention? Some of them seek help from homeopathic quacks like Rick Van Thiel.

Rick Van Thiel is not a surgeon. In reality, he's a porn star operating on people with dirty scalpels, reused needs, surrounded by filth. And the worst part is, he performs his surgeries in the nude.
The last episode about sovereign citizens was just exposition for what you’re about to hear. I first learned about this story from Jerri William’s podcast called FBI retired Case File Review. Jerri Williams is a retired FBI agent who interviews other former agents on her show. If you haven’t listened to it, you’re missing out. Her episode haunted me for days. So, I asked Jerri if I can share this story with you. If you thought the last sovereign citizen episode was shocking, wait till you hear this.
Disclaimer
It’s safe to assume that most PRETEND episodes are not suitable for young children. Unfortunately, this is one of those episodes. In fact, trigger warning, today, we’re going to talk about sexual assault and suicide. This episode is actually pretty disgusting. So, if you have the stomach for it, please proceed. You’ve been warned.

Story idea?
If you have a story to share, email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.
For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.
To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate
Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2021 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Naked Sovereign Surgeon</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>8</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2ec2bb90-9bdf-11eb-8ebd-1feb594635ca/image/The_Sovereign_Surgeon-_Episode_art.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Where do sovereign citizens go when they need medical attention? Some of them seek help from homeopathic quacks like Rick Van Thiel.

Rick Van Thiel is not a surgeon. In reality, he's a porn star operating on people with dirty scalpels, reused needs, surrounded by filth. And the worst part is, he performs his surgeries in the nude.
The last episode about sovereign citizens was just exposition for what you’re about to hear. I first learned about this story from Jerri William’s podcast called FBI retired Case File Review. Jerri Williams is a retired FBI agent who interviews other former agents on her show. If you haven’t listened to it, you’re missing out. Her episode haunted me for days. So, I asked Jerri if I can share this story with you. If you thought the last sovereign citizen episode was shocking, wait till you hear this.
Disclaimer
It’s safe to assume that most PRETEND episodes are not suitable for young children. Unfortunately, this is one of those episodes. In fact, trigger warning, today, we’re going to talk about sexual assault and suicide. This episode is actually pretty disgusting. So, if you have the stomach for it, please proceed. You’ve been warned.

Story idea?
If you have a story to share, email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.
For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.
To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate
Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Where do sovereign citizens go when they need medical attention? Some of them seek help from homeopathic quacks like Rick Van Thiel.</p><p><br></p><p>Rick Van Thiel is not a surgeon. In reality, he's a porn star operating on people with dirty scalpels, reused needs, surrounded by filth. And the worst part is, he performs his surgeries in the nude.</p><p>The last episode about <a href="https://pretendradio.org/episode/the-sovereign-citizen/">sovereign citizens</a> was just exposition for what you’re about to hear. I first learned about this story from Jerri William’s podcast called <a href="https://jerriwilliams.com/podcast-2/">FBI retired Case File Review</a>. Jerri Williams is a retired FBI agent who interviews other former agents on her show. If you haven’t listened to it, you’re missing out. <a href="https://jerriwilliams.com/tag/rick-van-thiel/">Her episode</a> haunted me for days. So, I asked Jerri if I can share this story with you. If you thought the last sovereign citizen episode was shocking, wait till you hear this.</p><p><strong>Disclaimer</strong></p><p>It’s safe to assume that most PRETEND episodes are not suitable for young children. Unfortunately, this is one of those episodes. In fact, trigger warning, today, we’re going to talk about sexual assault and suicide. This episode is actually pretty disgusting. So, if you have the stomach for it, please proceed. You’ve been warned.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Story idea?</strong></p><p><strong>If you have a story to share</strong>, email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.</p><p>For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.</p><p><strong>To get early releases and bonus episodes,</strong> go to pretendradio.org/donate</p><p>Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3071</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S801: The Sovereign Citizen</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>What is a sovereign citizen? 

American Sovereign citizens believe that the laws of the United States do not apply to them. Therefore, no authority should tell them what to do: not judges, lawmakers, lawyers, or police officers. Oh, and they don't pay taxes either. 

Sounds crazy, right? It would be crazy if they didn't get away with it so often.

________
Story idea?
If you have a story to share, email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.
For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.
To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate
Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva
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      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2021 03:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Sovereign Citizen</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>8</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>What is a sovereign citizen? 

American Sovereign citizens believe that the laws of the United States do not apply to them. Therefore, no authority should tell them what to do: not judges, lawmakers, lawyers, or police officers. Oh, and they don't pay taxes either. 

Sounds crazy, right? It would be crazy if they didn't get away with it so often.

________
Story idea?
If you have a story to share, email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.
For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.
To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate
Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<h1><strong>What is a sovereign citizen? </strong></h1><p><br></p><p>American Sovereign citizens believe that the laws of the United States do not apply to them. Therefore, no authority should tell them what to do: not judges, lawmakers, lawyers, or police officers. Oh, and they don't pay taxes either. </p><p><br></p><p>Sounds crazy, right? It would be crazy if they didn't get away with it so often.</p><p><br></p><p>________</p><p><strong>Story idea?</strong></p><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.</p><p>For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.</p><p><strong>To get early releases and bonus episodes</strong>, go to pretendradio.org/donate</p><p>Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2565</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>Birth of a Con Man (Revisited)</title>
      <description>This is the very first episode I recorded for PRETEND. Hear how a small-time crook went from breaking into houses to running a phony medical clinic.

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FEATURING: Follow the Truth Podcast Trailer

In 1993, James Jordan, father of NBA legend Michael, was murdered in NC. Was the wrong man convicted of pulling the trigger? E1 and E2 release date: 7/22/21
Check out Follow the Truth Podcast:
https://t.co/b4grdGjwJp?amp=1

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      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2021 13:11:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>7</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2eb2c3c0-9bdf-11eb-8ebd-9bc01e610291/image/Pretend-Logo-New-2000px.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This is the very first episode I recorded for PRETEND. Hear how a small-time crook went from breaking into houses to running a phony medical clinic.

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FEATURING: Follow the Truth Podcast Trailer

In 1993, James Jordan, father of NBA legend Michael, was murdered in NC. Was the wrong man convicted of pulling the trigger? E1 and E2 release date: 7/22/21
Check out Follow the Truth Podcast:
https://t.co/b4grdGjwJp?amp=1

________
Story idea?
If you have a story to share, email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.
For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.
To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate
Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This is the very first episode I recorded for PRETEND. Hear how a small-time crook went from breaking into houses to running a phony medical clinic.</p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><p><strong>FEATURING: Follow the Truth Podcast Trailer</strong></p><p><br></p><p>In 1993, James Jordan, father of NBA legend Michael, was murdered in NC. Was the wrong man convicted of pulling the trigger? E1 and E2 release date: 7/22/21</p><p><strong>Check out Follow the Truth Podcast:</strong></p><p>https://t.co/b4grdGjwJp?amp=1</p><p><br></p><p>________</p><p><strong>Story idea?</strong></p><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.</p><p>For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.</p><p><strong>To get early releases and bonus episodes</strong>, go to pretendradio.org/donate</p><p>Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2857</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>The Hijacker (Revisited)</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>This week, we revisit one of PRETEND's most popular episodes. It's called the Hijacker and it's a collaboration with my friend Chris Knittel. Hear Martin McNally describe the day he hijacked a plane.

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For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.
To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate
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      <pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2021 16:07:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>7</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2eaac896-9bdf-11eb-8ebd-e7a494ba2e8e/image/Pretend-Logo-New-2000px.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This week, we revisit one of PRETEND's most popular episodes. It's called the Hijacker and it's a collaboration with my friend Chris Knittel. Hear Martin McNally describe the day he hijacked a plane.

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Story idea?
If you have a story to share, email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.
For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.
To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate
Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week, we revisit one of PRETEND's most popular episodes. It's called the Hijacker and it's a collaboration with my friend Chris Knittel. Hear Martin McNally describe the day he hijacked a plane.</p><p><br></p><p>________</p><p><strong>Story idea?</strong></p><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.</p><p>For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.</p><p><strong>To get early releases and bonus episodes</strong>, go to pretendradio.org/donate</p><p>Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>4233</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>PRETEND turns 4</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>Jules Hannaford from the Fool Me Twice podcast joins me to talk about 4 years of PRETEND.

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If you have a story to share, email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.
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To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate
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      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2021 14:51:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>7</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2ea45100-9bdf-11eb-8ebd-2b88a3c421c9/image/Pretend-Logo-New-2000px.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Jules Hannaford from the Fool Me Twice podcast joins me to talk about 4 years of PRETEND.

________
Story idea?
If you have a story to share, email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.
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To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate
Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Jules Hannaford from the Fool Me Twice podcast joins me to talk about 4 years of PRETEND.</p><p><br></p><p>________</p><p><strong>Story idea?</strong></p><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.</p><p>For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.</p><p><strong>To get early releases and bonus episodes</strong>, go to pretendradio.org/donate</p><p>Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>1748</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S710: The Sham vol. 1</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>The Sham vol.1

This week, I turn the mic over to you. Two listeners share stories about their run-in with a con artist.
Our first story is from a long-time listener named Paul Schiffbauer Jr. He tells us about the time he learned the truth about the family business.
Our second story is about a listener whose con artist husband destroyed her life.

Links from the episode:
Amusement Only by Paul Schiffbauer Sr.
https://amzn.to/3uxsbto

Do you have a story to share?
Leave me a voicemail 919-444-2800
or email me at javier@pretendradio.org

To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate
Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2021 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Sham vol. 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>7</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The Sham vol.1

This week, I turn the mic over to you. Two listeners share stories about their run-in with a con artist.
Our first story is from a long-time listener named Paul Schiffbauer Jr. He tells us about the time he learned the truth about the family business.
Our second story is about a listener whose con artist husband destroyed her life.

Links from the episode:
Amusement Only by Paul Schiffbauer Sr.
https://amzn.to/3uxsbto

Do you have a story to share?
Leave me a voicemail 919-444-2800
or email me at javier@pretendradio.org

To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate
Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<h1>The Sham vol.1</h1><p><br></p><p>This week, I turn the mic over to you. Two listeners share stories about their run-in with a con artist.</p><p>Our first story is from a long-time listener named Paul Schiffbauer Jr. He tells us about the time he learned the truth about the family business.</p><p>Our second story is about a listener whose con artist husband destroyed her life.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Links from the episode:</strong></p><p>Amusement Only by Paul Schiffbauer Sr.</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3uxsbto">https://amzn.to/3uxsbto</a></p><h1><br></h1><p>Do you have a story to share?</p><p>Leave me a voicemail 919-444-2800</p><p>or email me at javier@pretendradio.org</p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="pretendradio.org/donate">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p>Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2109</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S709: The Liquor Guy</title>
      <description>There are two sides to Billy. There's Billy, who just wants to do the right thing. And then there's the criminal lurking from within.

So which way did he go? Did Billy end up becoming a criminal? Or did he choose to be the good guy in his own story? Well, he decided to do both.

If you've listened to this show long enough, you know I go to great lengths to fact-check my episodes. But today is different because it's tough to corroborate Billy's stories. And that's okay. One of my favorite movies is Big Fish with Ewan McGregor. It's about a man who lived an extraordinary life. In the end, it turned out that most of his tall tales were true--but just a little skewed due to time.

And that's how I feel about Billy. Some of these stories are too incredible to be real. But they might be. He's always wrestled between being the good guy and the bad guy. And in the end, managed to be both a criminal and a cop.      

So lean back, relax, and grab your adult beverage of choice. Because today we're going to spend the next half hour or so chatting with Billy the Liquor Guy.

Get a copy of Under Too Long by Billy the Liquor Guy:
https://amzn.to/3sWlmjo    

Story idea?
If you have a story to share, email Javier at info [at] pretendradio [dot] org.
For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.
To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate
Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva

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      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2021 13:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Liquor Guy</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>7</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/2e86f83a-9bdf-11eb-8ebd-13b8e97efa86/image/Billy-the-liquor-guy.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>There are two sides to Billy. There's Billy, who just wants to do the right thing. And then there's the criminal lurking from within.

So which way did he go? Did Billy end up becoming a criminal? Or did he choose to be the good guy in his own story? Well, he decided to do both.

If you've listened to this show long enough, you know I go to great lengths to fact-check my episodes. But today is different because it's tough to corroborate Billy's stories. And that's okay. One of my favorite movies is Big Fish with Ewan McGregor. It's about a man who lived an extraordinary life. In the end, it turned out that most of his tall tales were true--but just a little skewed due to time.

And that's how I feel about Billy. Some of these stories are too incredible to be real. But they might be. He's always wrestled between being the good guy and the bad guy. And in the end, managed to be both a criminal and a cop.      

So lean back, relax, and grab your adult beverage of choice. Because today we're going to spend the next half hour or so chatting with Billy the Liquor Guy.

Get a copy of Under Too Long by Billy the Liquor Guy:
https://amzn.to/3sWlmjo    

Story idea?
If you have a story to share, email Javier at info [at] pretendradio [dot] org.
For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.
To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate
Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva

Featured promo for Missing Persons and DNA:ID podcast
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>There are two sides to Billy. There's Billy, who just wants to do the right thing. And then there's the criminal lurking from within.</p><p><br></p><p>So which way did he go? Did Billy end up becoming a criminal? Or did he choose to be the good guy in his own story? Well, he decided to do both.</p><p><br></p><p>If you've listened to this show long enough, you know I go to great lengths to fact-check my episodes. But today is different because it's tough to corroborate Billy's stories. And that's okay. One of my favorite movies is Big Fish with Ewan McGregor. It's about a man who lived an extraordinary life. In the end, it turned out that most of his tall tales were true--but just a little skewed due to time.</p><p><br></p><p>And that's how I feel about Billy. Some of these stories are too incredible to be real. But they might be. He's always wrestled between being the good guy and the bad guy. And in the end, managed to be both a criminal and a cop.      </p><p><br></p><p>So lean back, relax, and grab your adult beverage of choice. Because today we're going to spend the next half hour or so chatting with Billy the Liquor Guy.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Get a copy of Under Too Long by Billy the Liquor Guy:</strong></p><p>https://amzn.to/3sWlmjo    </p><p><br></p><h1><strong>Story idea?</strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier at info [at] pretendradio [dot] org.</p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p>Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva</p><p><br></p><p><em>Featured promo for </em><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwi9hM3Em53wAhWrGVkFHdJcBIIQFjAFegQIBRAD&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fus%2Fpodcast%2Fmissing-persons%2Fid1498804226&amp;usg=AOvVaw2dN6vajC6svSZl9Bimm0I6"><em>Missing Persons</em></a><em> and </em><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjEyYGem53wAhUAEVkFHUtgCdgQFjAEegQIBBAD&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fpodcasts.apple.com%2Fie%2Fpodcast%2Fdna-id%2Fid1545785245&amp;usg=AOvVaw3JzFvNe18JTxYY1ESPiZEr"><em>DNA:ID</em></a><em> podcast</em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1832</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S708: The Constable (Criminal Conduct)</title>
      <link>http://criminalconduct.net/</link>
      <description>This week's episode is actually the first episode of my other podcast CRIMINAL CONDUCT.
I wanted you, PRETEND listeners to get a sneak peek before it's debut on April 16th. If you like this episode, subscribe to the CRIMINAL CONDUCT feed to listen to the full episode.

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Criminal Conduct is back with a brand new case.
This season, John and Javier investigate a rogue constable in Kentucky who is accused of planting drugs, stealing money, and shaking people down.
Like a police officer, a constable can carry a gun, a badge and drive around town with blue lights. However, unlike police, a Constable has all the powers of a sheriff. He answers to no one but the voters on election day.
Criminal Conduct season 2 returns April 16th.
http://criminalconduct.net/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2021 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Constable (Criminal Conduct)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>7</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/0b09e0ec-9bd6-11eb-a50c-f3f0308db7f4/image/Criminal_Conduct_1_1__S2.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This week's episode is actually the first episode of my other podcast CRIMINAL CONDUCT.
I wanted you, PRETEND listeners to get a sneak peek before it's debut on April 16th. If you like this episode, subscribe to the CRIMINAL CONDUCT feed to listen to the full episode.

--------

Criminal Conduct is back with a brand new case.
This season, John and Javier investigate a rogue constable in Kentucky who is accused of planting drugs, stealing money, and shaking people down.
Like a police officer, a constable can carry a gun, a badge and drive around town with blue lights. However, unlike police, a Constable has all the powers of a sheriff. He answers to no one but the voters on election day.
Criminal Conduct season 2 returns April 16th.
http://criminalconduct.net/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week's episode is actually the first episode of my other podcast CRIMINAL CONDUCT.</p><p>I wanted you, PRETEND listeners to get a sneak peek before it's debut on April 16th. If you like this episode, subscribe to the CRIMINAL CONDUCT feed to listen to the full episode.</p><p><br></p><p>--------</p><p><br></p><p>Criminal Conduct is back with a brand new case.</p><p>This season, John and Javier investigate a rogue constable in Kentucky who is accused of planting drugs, stealing money, and shaking people down.</p><p>Like a police officer, a constable can carry a gun, a badge and drive around town with blue lights. However<strong>,</strong> unlike police, a Constable has all the powers of a sheriff. He answers to no one but the voters on election day.</p><p><strong>Criminal Conduct season 2 returns April 16th.</strong></p><p>http://criminalconduct.net/</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>2565</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S707: The Lie Detector part 2</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>Doug Williams, the former Oklahoma City police officer who is best known for his crusade against the polygraph industry, teaches an undercover federal agent how to beat the lie detector test. The agent confessed that he had sex with a minor and was smuggling drugs into a prison. Should Doug Williams continue the training? What if Doug William's techniques get into the wrong hands?
Watch the undercover sting on YouTube.


________
Story idea?
If you have a story to share, email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.
For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.
To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate
Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva

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      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2021 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Lie Detector part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>7</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Doug Williams, the former Oklahoma City police officer who is best known for his crusade against the polygraph industry, teaches an undercover federal agent how to beat the lie detector test. The agent confessed that he had sex with a minor and was smuggling drugs into a prison. Should Doug Williams continue the training? What if Doug William's techniques get into the wrong hands?
Watch the undercover sting on YouTube.


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If you have a story to share, email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.
For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.
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        <![CDATA[<p>Doug Williams, the former Oklahoma City police officer who is best known for his crusade against the polygraph industry, teaches an undercover federal agent how to beat the lie detector test. The agent confessed that he had sex with a minor and was smuggling drugs into a prison. Should Doug Williams continue the training? What if Doug William's techniques get into the wrong hands?</p><p><strong>Watch the undercover sting on </strong><a href="https://youtu.be/xGhAJFymdOg"><strong>YouTube</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>________</p><p><strong>Story idea?</strong></p><p><strong>If you have a story to share, </strong>email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.</p><p><strong>For more episodes like this, </strong>visit pretendradio.org.</p><p><strong>To get early releases and bonus episodes</strong>, go to pretendradio.org/donate</p><p>Today's episode was written and edited by Javier Leiva</p><p><br></p><p><em>Featured promo for </em><a href="https://t.co/V8turxeNDy?amp=1"><em>Die-alogue Podcast</em></a><em> </em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S706: The Lie Detector part 1 </title>
      <description>Learn how to cheat a polygraph test. Ex-cop, Doug Williams, says it's a lot easier than you think. 

Doug Williams is looking over his shoulder because, since 1979, he's been on a crusade to defeat the polygraph machine. In 1996, he started a website called polygraph.com, offering a handbook and one-on-one training teaching people how to pass the test. 

"There is no Pinocchio response. Your nose does not grow when you lie." - Doug Williams, polygraph critic

According to Doug Williams, a lie detector test is about as accurate as a coin toss. He claims the machine doesn't work, and as a result, innocent people are paying the price. Many innocent people have pleaded guilty and skipped trial because they failed a polygraph during an interrogation. And employers routinely administered polygraph tests as part of their hiring process. If you fail a lie detector test in the US federal government, you're potentially placed on a blacklist and never allowed to apply for that government agency job again. 

Doug Willams says that the polygraph is just a stage prop used to scare people. How does he know this? Because he spent most of his law enforcement career using it as what he calls a psychological billy club. To him, it was just a tool to beat a confession out of a bad guy. But over the years, he realized that a polygraph test is just that... a test. It can be cheated. And he was going to devote the rest of his life to destroy it. 

Doug Williams made a career giving people polygraphs exams. Now, he's going to prison for teaching people how to cheat the test.    
To listen to the undercover tape that led to his arrest. 

Check out my latest episodes on YouTube:

Credits
This episode was reported by Javier Leiva. 
Special thanks to George Maschke with antipolygraph.org
Support PRETEND by becoming a member today at pretendradio.org/donate  
Featured promo for Movie Pitch Challenge 
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      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2021 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Lie Detector part 1 </itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>7</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Learn how to cheat a polygraph test. Ex-cop, Doug Williams, says it's a lot easier than you think. 

Doug Williams is looking over his shoulder because, since 1979, he's been on a crusade to defeat the polygraph machine. In 1996, he started a website called polygraph.com, offering a handbook and one-on-one training teaching people how to pass the test. 

"There is no Pinocchio response. Your nose does not grow when you lie." - Doug Williams, polygraph critic

According to Doug Williams, a lie detector test is about as accurate as a coin toss. He claims the machine doesn't work, and as a result, innocent people are paying the price. Many innocent people have pleaded guilty and skipped trial because they failed a polygraph during an interrogation. And employers routinely administered polygraph tests as part of their hiring process. If you fail a lie detector test in the US federal government, you're potentially placed on a blacklist and never allowed to apply for that government agency job again. 

Doug Willams says that the polygraph is just a stage prop used to scare people. How does he know this? Because he spent most of his law enforcement career using it as what he calls a psychological billy club. To him, it was just a tool to beat a confession out of a bad guy. But over the years, he realized that a polygraph test is just that... a test. It can be cheated. And he was going to devote the rest of his life to destroy it. 

Doug Williams made a career giving people polygraphs exams. Now, he's going to prison for teaching people how to cheat the test.    
To listen to the undercover tape that led to his arrest. 

Check out my latest episodes on YouTube:

Credits
This episode was reported by Javier Leiva. 
Special thanks to George Maschke with antipolygraph.org
Support PRETEND by becoming a member today at pretendradio.org/donate  
Featured promo for Movie Pitch Challenge 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<h1>Learn how to cheat a polygraph test. Ex-cop, Doug Williams, says it's a lot easier than you think. </h1><p><br></p><p>Doug Williams is looking over his shoulder because, since 1979, he's been on a crusade to defeat the polygraph machine. In 1996, he started a website called polygraph.com, offering a handbook and one-on-one training teaching people how to pass the test. </p><p><br></p><p>"There is no Pinocchio response. Your nose does not grow when you lie." - Doug Williams, polygraph critic</p><p><br></p><p>According to Doug Williams, a lie detector test is about as accurate as a coin toss. He claims the machine doesn't work, and as a result, innocent people are paying the price. Many innocent people have pleaded guilty and skipped trial because they failed a polygraph during an interrogation. And employers routinely administered polygraph tests as part of their hiring process. If you fail a lie detector test in the US federal government, you're potentially placed on a blacklist and never allowed to apply for that government agency job again. </p><p><br></p><p>Doug Willams says that the polygraph is just a stage prop used to scare people. How does he know this? Because he spent most of his law enforcement career using it as what he calls a psychological billy club. To him, it was just a tool to beat a confession out of a bad guy. But over the years, he realized that a polygraph test is just that... a test. It can be cheated. And he was going to devote the rest of his life to destroy it. </p><p><br></p><p>Doug Williams made a career giving people polygraphs exams. Now, he's going to prison for teaching people how to cheat the test.    </p><p><strong>To listen to the undercover tape that led to his arrest. </strong></p><p><br></p><p>Check out my latest episodes on <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf94SpHoG-uN-y0bmaCKIHQ">YouTube</a>:</p><p><br></p><p>Credits</p><p><em>This episode was reported by Javier Leiva. </em></p><p><em>Special thanks to George Maschke with </em><a href="http://antipolygraph.org"><em>antipolygraph.org</em></a></p><p><em>Support PRETEND by becoming a member today at </em><a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate"><em>pretendradio.org/donate  </em></a></p><p><em>Featured promo for </em><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/0XIurddTtXDMvTdGaKcxa7?si=nHitGcsfRRSj0WUyxzZ7oA"><em>Movie Pitch Challenge</em></a><em> </em></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S705: The Word of Faith Fellowship Update</title>
      <link>http://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>If you haven't listened to The Prophet series, start here:
http://pretendradio.org/the-prophet-word-of-faith-fellowship-revisited/


When I first started this podcast, I reported on a secretive church located in the foothills in western North Carolina called the Word of Faith Fellowship.

The church is accused of being a cult and separating families—forcing them to break ties with non-believers.

One teenager named Matthew Fenner pressed charges against five church ministers because he said they beat the gay demons out of him.
And that's just the beginning. Several former members reported being forced into isolation in what is known as the lower building. Some male congregants say they lived in this makeshift storage unit for over a year. But perhaps they're best remembered for their signature style of prayer. It's known as blasting. As you can hear in this secret audio recording, blasting is a form of deliverance meant to cast out the devil.

It has been said that crying babies were often held down and yelled at until the devil released its grip on the child. I've experienced blasting first hand. In 2018, I was personally invited by the church's leader,

Jane Whaley, to spend the day at the Word of Faith Fellowship. While interviewing her in her office, Jane Whaley looked me straight in the eyes, opened her mouth, and began shouting. It was terrifying. To this day, I still get chills.

It's been 2 years since I finished my 11-part series on the Word of Faith. Since then, I've been flooded with emails asking me to give them an update. They want to know, have there been any new allegations of abuse?

Have any of the church leaders faced any criminal charges? Is Jane Whaley still running the church? Today, I plan to answer some of these questions.

______

Story idea?
If you have a story to share, email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.
For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.
To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate
Today's episode was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Logan Castrodale


Reference:

Covid-19 Timelines:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_in_the_United_States_(2020)
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus

Threats against Word of Faith church over coronavirus rumor https://www.charlotteobserver.com/article242307531.html

Word of Faith church in NC received a PPP loan amid COVID https://www.charlotteobserver.com/living/religion/article244084852.html

Lotz International LLC v. Burnette: 
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17404523/lotz-international-llc-v-burnette/

Case against Facebook commenters moves to state court:
https://www.shelbystar.com/story/special/2020/09/23/case-against-facebook-commenters-moves-to-state-court/43180133/

Former Word of Faith member charged with breaking into minister's home: https://wlos.com/news/local/former-world-of-faith-member-charged-with-breaking-into-ministers-home

Word of Faith member reaches plea deal in fraud scam:
https://wlos.com/news/local/word-of-faith-member-reaches-plea-deal-in-fraud-scam

Trump March:
https://youtu.be/yxUksEHZGag?t=350

Trump Rally:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7VJtRZBy-M
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2021 09:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Word of Faith Fellowship Update</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>7</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/e7993444-4ee8-11eb-b828-c35d76b44a29/image/uploads_2F1614637091000-7lh87hyqx4j-8e60b731ee376a9a1152b8bc85093110_2FThe-Prophet-1024x1024.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>If you haven't listened to The Prophet series, start here:
http://pretendradio.org/the-prophet-word-of-faith-fellowship-revisited/


When I first started this podcast, I reported on a secretive church located in the foothills in western North Carolina called the Word of Faith Fellowship.

The church is accused of being a cult and separating families—forcing them to break ties with non-believers.

One teenager named Matthew Fenner pressed charges against five church ministers because he said they beat the gay demons out of him.
And that's just the beginning. Several former members reported being forced into isolation in what is known as the lower building. Some male congregants say they lived in this makeshift storage unit for over a year. But perhaps they're best remembered for their signature style of prayer. It's known as blasting. As you can hear in this secret audio recording, blasting is a form of deliverance meant to cast out the devil.

It has been said that crying babies were often held down and yelled at until the devil released its grip on the child. I've experienced blasting first hand. In 2018, I was personally invited by the church's leader,

Jane Whaley, to spend the day at the Word of Faith Fellowship. While interviewing her in her office, Jane Whaley looked me straight in the eyes, opened her mouth, and began shouting. It was terrifying. To this day, I still get chills.

It's been 2 years since I finished my 11-part series on the Word of Faith. Since then, I've been flooded with emails asking me to give them an update. They want to know, have there been any new allegations of abuse?

Have any of the church leaders faced any criminal charges? Is Jane Whaley still running the church? Today, I plan to answer some of these questions.

______

Story idea?
If you have a story to share, email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.
For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.
To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate
Today's episode was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Logan Castrodale


Reference:

Covid-19 Timelines:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_in_the_United_States_(2020)
https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus

Threats against Word of Faith church over coronavirus rumor https://www.charlotteobserver.com/article242307531.html

Word of Faith church in NC received a PPP loan amid COVID https://www.charlotteobserver.com/living/religion/article244084852.html

Lotz International LLC v. Burnette: 
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17404523/lotz-international-llc-v-burnette/

Case against Facebook commenters moves to state court:
https://www.shelbystar.com/story/special/2020/09/23/case-against-facebook-commenters-moves-to-state-court/43180133/

Former Word of Faith member charged with breaking into minister's home: https://wlos.com/news/local/former-world-of-faith-member-charged-with-breaking-into-ministers-home

Word of Faith member reaches plea deal in fraud scam:
https://wlos.com/news/local/word-of-faith-member-reaches-plea-deal-in-fraud-scam

Trump March:
https://youtu.be/yxUksEHZGag?t=350

Trump Rally:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7VJtRZBy-M
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<h1>If you haven't listened to The Prophet series, start here:</h1><p><a href="http://pretendradio.org/the-prophet-word-of-faith-fellowship-revisited/">http://pretendradio.org/the-prophet-word-of-faith-fellowship-revisited/</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>When I first started this podcast, I reported on a secretive church located in the foothills in western North Carolina called the Word of Faith Fellowship.</p><p><br></p><p>The church is accused of being a cult and separating families—forcing them to break ties with non-believers.</p><p><br></p><p>One teenager named Matthew Fenner pressed charges against five church ministers because he said they beat the gay demons out of him.</p><p>And that's just the beginning. Several former members reported being forced into isolation in what is known as the lower building. Some male congregants say they lived in this makeshift storage unit for over a year. But perhaps they're best remembered for their signature style of prayer. It's known as blasting. As you can hear in this secret audio recording, blasting is a form of deliverance meant to cast out the devil.</p><p><br></p><p>It has been said that crying babies were often held down and yelled at until the devil released its grip on the child. I've experienced blasting first hand. In 2018, I was personally invited by the church's leader,</p><p><br></p><p>Jane Whaley, to spend the day at the Word of Faith Fellowship. While interviewing her in her office, Jane Whaley looked me straight in the eyes, opened her mouth, and began shouting. It was terrifying. To this day, I still get chills.</p><p><br></p><p>It's been 2 years since I finished my 11-part series on the Word of Faith. Since then, I've been flooded with emails asking me to give them an update. They want to know, have there been any new allegations of abuse?</p><p><br></p><p>Have any of the church leaders faced any criminal charges? Is Jane Whaley still running the church? Today, I plan to answer some of these questions.</p><p><br></p><p>______</p><p><br></p><h1><strong>Story idea?</strong></h1><p><strong>If you have a story to share, </strong>email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.</p><p><strong>For more episodes like this, </strong>visit pretendradio.org.</p><p><strong>To get early releases and bonus episodes</strong>, go to pretendradio.org/donate</p><p>Today's episode was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Logan Castrodale</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><h1><strong>Reference:</strong></h1><p><br></p><p><strong>Covid-19 Timelines:</strong></p><p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_in_the_United_States_(2020)">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_in_the_United_States_(2020)</a></p><p><a href="https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus">https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.charlotteobserver.com/article242307531.html">Threats against Word of Faith church over coronavirus rumor https://www.charlotteobserver.com/article242307531.html</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.charlotteobserver.com/living/religion/article244084852.html">Word of Faith church in NC received a PPP loan amid COVID https://www.charlotteobserver.com/living/religion/article244084852.html</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Lotz International LLC v. Burnette: </strong></p><p><a href="https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17404523/lotz-international-llc-v-burnette/">https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17404523/lotz-international-llc-v-burnette/</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Case against Facebook commenters moves to state court:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.shelbystar.com/story/special/2020/09/23/case-against-facebook-commenters-moves-to-state-court/43180133/">https://www.shelbystar.com/story/special/2020/09/23/case-against-facebook-commenters-moves-to-state-court/43180133/</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Former Word of Faith member charged with breaking into minister's home: </strong><a href="https://wlos.com/news/local/former-world-of-faith-member-charged-with-breaking-into-ministers-home">https://wlos.com/news/local/former-world-of-faith-member-charged-with-breaking-into-ministers-home</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Word of Faith member reaches plea deal in fraud scam:</strong></p><p><a href="https://wlos.com/news/local/word-of-faith-member-reaches-plea-deal-in-fraud-scam">https://wlos.com/news/local/word-of-faith-member-reaches-plea-deal-in-fraud-scam</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Trump March:</strong></p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/yxUksEHZGag?t=350">https://youtu.be/yxUksEHZGag?t=350</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Trump Rally:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7VJtRZBy-M">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7VJtRZBy-M</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S704: The Confident Woman</title>
      <link>http://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>Tori Telfer, author of Confident Women: Swindlers, Grifters, and Shapeshifters of the Feminine Persuasion joins us to talk about female con artists. Today, we're focusing on one of the women in her book—Bonny Lee Bakley, the wife of Hollywood actor Robert Blake.

______

Story idea?
If you have a story to share, email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.
For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.
To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate
Today's episode was written by Javier Leiva
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Feb 2021 09:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Confident Woman</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>7</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Tori Telfer, author of Confident Women: Swindlers, Grifters, and Shapeshifters of the Feminine Persuasion joins us to talk about female con artists. Today, we're focusing on one of the women in her book—Bonny Lee Bakley, the wife of Hollywood actor Robert Blake.

______

Story idea?
If you have a story to share, email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.
For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.
To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate
Today's episode was written by Javier Leiva
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Tori Telfer, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/2MZVOTv">Confident Women: Swindlers, Grifters, and Shapeshifters of the Feminine Persuasion</a> joins us to talk about female con artists. Today, we're focusing on one of the women in her book—Bonny Lee Bakley, the wife of Hollywood actor Robert Blake.</p><p><br></p><p>______</p><p><br></p><h1><strong>Story idea?</strong></h1><p><strong>If you have a story to share, </strong>email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.</p><p><strong>For more episodes like this, </strong>visit pretendradio.org.</p><p><strong>To get early releases and bonus episodes</strong>, go to pretendradio.org/donate</p><p>Today's episode was written by Javier Leiva</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1815</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S703: The Pharmacist</title>
      <link>http://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>In today's episode, we're going to take another look at the opioid crisis, but this time from a pharmacist's perspective. But this is not just any pharmacist. Dan Schneider is a vigilante who helped bring down his son's killer, a pill mill, and one of Earth's largest pharmaceutical companies.

Watch the Pharmacist on Netflix:
https://www.netflix.com/title/81002576
______

Today's episode was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Logan Castrodale.

______
Story idea?
If you have a story to share, email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.
For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.
To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate
Today's episode was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Logan Castrodale
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2021 09:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Pharmacist</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>7</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In today's episode, we're going to take another look at the opioid crisis, but this time from a pharmacist's perspective. But this is not just any pharmacist. Dan Schneider is a vigilante who helped bring down his son's killer, a pill mill, and one of Earth's largest pharmaceutical companies.

Watch the Pharmacist on Netflix:
https://www.netflix.com/title/81002576
______

Today's episode was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Logan Castrodale.

______
Story idea?
If you have a story to share, email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.
For more episodes like this, visit pretendradio.org.
To get early releases and bonus episodes, go to pretendradio.org/donate
Today's episode was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Logan Castrodale
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In today's episode, we're going to take another look at the opioid crisis, but this time from a pharmacist's perspective. But this is not just any pharmacist. Dan Schneider is a vigilante who helped bring down his son's killer, a pill mill, and one of Earth's largest pharmaceutical companies.</p><p><br></p><p>Watch the Pharmacist on Netflix:</p><p>https://www.netflix.com/title/81002576</p><p>______</p><p><br></p><p>Today's episode was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Logan Castrodale.</p><p><br></p><p>______</p><h1><strong>Story idea?</strong></h1><p><strong>If you have a story to share, </strong>email Javier at javier@pretendradio.org.</p><p><strong>For more episodes like this, </strong>visit pretendradio.org.</p><p><strong>To get early releases and bonus episodes</strong>, go to pretendradio.org/donate</p><p>Today's episode was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Logan Castrodale</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2606</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S702: The Pill Mill</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>A doctor caught trading prescriptions for cash leaves a trail of bodies behind. 

A respected anesthesiologist ran a pain-management clinic on the weekends out of a basement in Flushing Queens, New York.
Each Saturday, Dr. Stan Li saw more than seventy patients a day, writing prescriptions for Oxycontin, Xanax, and other opioids.

Today's episode features Charlotte Bismuth, author of Bad Medicine. 

Links
Here's a link to the Birth of a Con Man series.

Also, subscribe to the new PRETEND YouTube channel for a chance to win a t-shirt.

——-
Story idea?
If you have a story to share, email Javier at info [at] pretendradio [dot] org.
For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.
To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2021 09:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Pill Mill</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>7</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/e7878258-4ee8-11eb-b828-5701a7d6bf2b/image/uploads_2F1611025258592-f6wbds14a3b-a908ea2f26e0b1720a71afce5a85f230_2FPill_Mill.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>A doctor caught trading prescriptions for cash leaves a trail of bodies behind. 

A respected anesthesiologist ran a pain-management clinic on the weekends out of a basement in Flushing Queens, New York.
Each Saturday, Dr. Stan Li saw more than seventy patients a day, writing prescriptions for Oxycontin, Xanax, and other opioids.

Today's episode features Charlotte Bismuth, author of Bad Medicine. 

Links
Here's a link to the Birth of a Con Man series.

Also, subscribe to the new PRETEND YouTube channel for a chance to win a t-shirt.

——-
Story idea?
If you have a story to share, email Javier at info [at] pretendradio [dot] org.
For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.
To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<h1>A doctor caught trading prescriptions for cash leaves a trail of bodies behind. </h1><p><br></p><p>A respected anesthesiologist ran a pain-management clinic on the weekends out of a basement in Flushing Queens, New York.</p><p>Each Saturday, Dr. Stan Li saw more than seventy patients a day, writing prescriptions for Oxycontin, Xanax, and other opioids.</p><p><br></p><p>Today's episode features Charlotte Bismuth, author of <a href="https://amzn.to/3oQYFf4">Bad Medicine</a>. </p><p><br></p><h1>Links</h1><p>Here's a link to the <a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/5UvMWiAem9ii12nk3YQdlH?si=9GK2yYbiR5uGJE3Oworvmw">Birth of a Con Man series</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>Also, subscribe to the new <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf94SpHoG-uN-y0bmaCKIHQ">PRETEND YouTube channel</a> for a chance to win a t-shirt.</p><p><br></p><p>——-</p><p><strong>Story idea?</strong></p><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier at info [at] pretendradio [dot] org.</p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2675</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S701: The Real Donnie Brasco</title>
      <link>http://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>Johnny Depp played Donnie Brasco in the Academy Award-nominated film. But the real-life story of Donnie Brasco is even more fascinating. Joe Pistone, an FBI agent, went deep undercover as Brasco and spent six years inside the Bonanno and Columbo crime families.

The movie, if you remember, starts with Joe Pistone immediately infiltrating with the mob. In today's episode, we will talk about everything that happened before the movie even begins.

What was Donnie Brasco's backstory? Where did he come from, and how did he earn money? The FBI needed to figure out every single detail about this fictional character before Joe Pistone ever made the first contact with the mafia. They decided that Donnie Brasco was going to be a jewel thief. That required Pistone to learn how gemology, how to break into safes, and how to disable alarms.

In this episode, you will hear from Joe Pistone himself. You'll even get to listen to a real wiretap recording between Donnie Brasco and his associate Lefty Ruggiero.

If you want more, check out the new podcast "Deep Cover-The Real Donnie Brasco," Joe Pistone shares the true stories of his time with the mob to his friend and host actor Leo Rossi.

PRETEND is on YouTube
Make sure to subscribe to the PRETEND YouTube channel. I will pick 10 subscribers at random and mail them a screen printed PRETEND t-shirt.
"Fuhggedaboutit"

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Story idea? 
If you have a story to share, email Javier at info@pretendradio.org.

For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.

To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2021 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Real Donnie Brasco</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>7</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/332bb55e-4ee8-11eb-98c3-c32f5637915f/image/uploads_2F1609809305489-zda4hib8wy-d561940b19662cc107b7369e5c66c7f5_2FThe+Real+Donnie+Brasco-PRETEND_Podcast.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Johnny Depp played Donnie Brasco in the Academy Award-nominated film. But the real-life story of Donnie Brasco is even more fascinating. Joe Pistone, an FBI agent, went deep undercover as Brasco and spent six years inside the Bonanno and Columbo crime families.

The movie, if you remember, starts with Joe Pistone immediately infiltrating with the mob. In today's episode, we will talk about everything that happened before the movie even begins.

What was Donnie Brasco's backstory? Where did he come from, and how did he earn money? The FBI needed to figure out every single detail about this fictional character before Joe Pistone ever made the first contact with the mafia. They decided that Donnie Brasco was going to be a jewel thief. That required Pistone to learn how gemology, how to break into safes, and how to disable alarms.

In this episode, you will hear from Joe Pistone himself. You'll even get to listen to a real wiretap recording between Donnie Brasco and his associate Lefty Ruggiero.

If you want more, check out the new podcast "Deep Cover-The Real Donnie Brasco," Joe Pistone shares the true stories of his time with the mob to his friend and host actor Leo Rossi.

PRETEND is on YouTube
Make sure to subscribe to the PRETEND YouTube channel. I will pick 10 subscribers at random and mail them a screen printed PRETEND t-shirt.
"Fuhggedaboutit"

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Story idea? 
If you have a story to share, email Javier at info@pretendradio.org.

For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.

To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Johnny Depp played Donnie Brasco in the Academy Award-nominated film. But the real-life story of Donnie Brasco is even more fascinating. Joe Pistone, an FBI agent, went deep undercover as Brasco and spent six years inside the Bonanno and Columbo crime families.</p><p><br></p><p>The movie, if you remember, starts with Joe Pistone immediately infiltrating with the mob. In today's episode, we will talk about everything that happened before the movie even begins.</p><p><br></p><p>What was Donnie Brasco's backstory? Where did he come from, and how did he earn money? The FBI needed to figure out every single detail about this fictional character before Joe Pistone ever made the first contact with the mafia. They decided that Donnie Brasco was going to be a jewel thief. That required Pistone to learn how gemology, how to break into safes, and how to disable alarms.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, you will hear from Joe Pistone himself. You'll even get to listen to a real wiretap recording between Donnie Brasco and his associate Lefty Ruggiero.</p><p><br></p><p>If you want more, check out the new podcast "Deep Cover-The Real Donnie Brasco," Joe Pistone shares the true stories of his time with the mob to his friend and host actor Leo Rossi.</p><p><br></p><h1>PRETEND is on YouTube</h1><p>Make sure to subscribe to the <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf94SpHoG-uN-y0bmaCKIHQ">PRETEND YouTube channel</a>. I will pick 10 subscribers at random and mail them a screen printed PRETEND t-shirt.</p><p>"Fuhggedaboutit"</p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier at info@pretendradio.org.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3368</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S611: The Santa Claus Man (Rebroadcast)</title>
      <link>http://pretendradio.org/s509-the-santa-claus-man/</link>
      <description>Brian Earl with the Christmas Past podcast shares a Christmas story you’ve probably never heard before. In the early 1900s, children’s letters to Santa Claus never made it to the North Pole. They landed in the dead letter office and were eventually destroyed.
But along came John Gluck, a hustler who took these letters to Santa and turned it into an opportunity to get rich and famous.
It’s the strange and true story of government agents, spies, an art thief, U.S. presidents, and gun-toting boy scouts.
Check out “My Dear Santa” with Brian Earl from the Christmas Past podcast
My Dear Santa: A True Crime Christmas Caper

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Story idea? 
If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at info@pretendradio.org.

For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.

To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2020 21:13:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Santa Claus Man (Rebroadcast)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Brian Earl with the Christmas Past podcast shares a Christmas story you’ve probably never heard before. In the early 1900s, children’s letters to Santa Claus never made it to the North Pole. They landed in the dead letter office and were eventually destroyed.
But along came John Gluck, a hustler who took these letters to Santa and turned it into an opportunity to get rich and famous.
It’s the strange and true story of government agents, spies, an art thief, U.S. presidents, and gun-toting boy scouts.
Check out “My Dear Santa” with Brian Earl from the Christmas Past podcast
My Dear Santa: A True Crime Christmas Caper

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Story idea? 
If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at info@pretendradio.org.

For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.

To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Brian Earl with the Christmas Past podcast shares a Christmas story you’ve probably never heard before. In the early 1900s, children’s letters to Santa Claus never made it to the North Pole. They landed in the dead letter office and were eventually destroyed.</p><p>But along came John Gluck, a hustler who took these letters to Santa and turned it into an opportunity to get rich and famous.</p><p>It’s the strange and true story of government agents, spies, an art thief, U.S. presidents, and gun-toting boy scouts.</p><p>Check out “My Dear Santa” with Brian Earl from the Christmas Past podcast</p><p><a href="https://christmaspast.media/my-dear-santa/">My Dear Santa: A True Crime Christmas Caper</a></p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2774</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S610: The Party Crasher</title>
      <description>Remember when we used to go out to parties? Well, since you can't really go out these days, today we're going to celebrate together. 
In this episode we're talking about party crashers.
Act 1: 
How to crash a party
Our first story is about the art of crashing a party. What do you need to do to attend a party you weren't invited to without ever getting caught? Megan Gillikin a wedding planner and the host of the Wedding for Real Podcast shows us how.
Act 2:
The White House party crashers
Our second story, is about the greatest party crasher story of all time. The date was November 24th, 2009. Two Washington D.C. socialites were on their way to the White House state dinner for Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. Tareq and Michaele Salahi, the stars of the Real Housewives of D.C., crashed the White House State Dinner. How were they able to crash the most secure party on Earth?

Act 3:
A party crasher's confession
We end the show with stories from listeners like you about a time you crashed a party.
Oh, and by the way, just a warning. Some parts of this episode are not suitable for young children. Just want to put that out there.
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Have you ever crashed a party?
Do you have a party crashing story you would like to share? Leave me a voicemail at (919) 867-1871. Or email me javier [at] pretendradio [dot] org.

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Story idea? 
If you have a story to share, email Javier at info@pretendradio.org.

For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.

To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Dec 2020 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Party Crasher</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/e2752412-39a0-11eb-9419-f3cbc4b21cb8/image/uploads_2F1607464022695-vmkfl475pl-6987a350be48d4d7abd0d7dc4efabd9d_2FThe+Party+Crasher.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Remember when we used to go out to parties? Well, since you can't really go out these days, today we're going to celebrate together. 
In this episode we're talking about party crashers.
Act 1: 
How to crash a party
Our first story is about the art of crashing a party. What do you need to do to attend a party you weren't invited to without ever getting caught? Megan Gillikin a wedding planner and the host of the Wedding for Real Podcast shows us how.
Act 2:
The White House party crashers
Our second story, is about the greatest party crasher story of all time. The date was November 24th, 2009. Two Washington D.C. socialites were on their way to the White House state dinner for Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. Tareq and Michaele Salahi, the stars of the Real Housewives of D.C., crashed the White House State Dinner. How were they able to crash the most secure party on Earth?

Act 3:
A party crasher's confession
We end the show with stories from listeners like you about a time you crashed a party.
Oh, and by the way, just a warning. Some parts of this episode are not suitable for young children. Just want to put that out there.
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Have you ever crashed a party?
Do you have a party crashing story you would like to share? Leave me a voicemail at (919) 867-1871. Or email me javier [at] pretendradio [dot] org.

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Story idea? 
If you have a story to share, email Javier at info@pretendradio.org.

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        <![CDATA[<p><br></p><p>Remember when we used to go out to parties? Well, since you can't really go out these days, today we're going to celebrate together. </p><p>In this episode we're talking about party crashers.</p><p><strong>Act 1: </strong></p><h1>How to crash a party</h1><p>Our first story is about the art of crashing a party. What do you need to do to attend a party you weren't invited to without ever getting caught? Megan Gillikin a wedding planner and the host of the <a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjug9XgsL_tAhWIv1kKHcgPAUUQFjAAegQIAxAC&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weddingsforreal.com%2F&amp;usg=AOvVaw3wscxNpafGSBlm-p_OUyIt">Wedding for Real Podcast</a> shows us how.</p><p><strong>Act 2:</strong></p><h1>The White House party crashers</h1><p>Our second story, is about the greatest party crasher story of all time. The date was November 24th, 2009. Two Washington D.C. socialites were on their way to the White House state dinner for Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh. Tareq and Michaele Salahi, the stars of the Real Housewives of D.C., crashed the White House State Dinner. How were they able to crash the most secure party on Earth?</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Act 3:</strong></p><h1>A party crasher's confession</h1><p>We end the show with stories from listeners like you about a time you crashed a party.</p><p>Oh, and by the way, just a warning. Some parts of this episode are not suitable for young children. Just want to put that out there.</p><p>--------</p><h1>Have you ever crashed a party?</h1><p>Do you have a party crashing story you would like to share? Leave me a voicemail at (919) 867-1871. Or email me javier [at] pretendradio [dot] org.</p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><p><strong>Story idea? </strong></p><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier at info@pretendradio.org.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S609: The Treasure Hunter part 4</title>
      <description>A real-life Indiana Jones? 
The word on the street is that Michael Torres is Ph.D. by day and a treasure hunter by night. Torres claims he has an aeronautical engineering degree from Duke University. Don’t believe him? He has a photo of his diploma. Michael Torres also claims to have taught at MIT Lincoln Laboratory. He has the library card to prove it. 
When he’s not in the classroom, Torres is out looking for treasure. He claims he raided catacombs in Turkey, he’s recovered one of Sir Francis Drake’s sunken ship. And most recently, he discovered what he believes is a pre-Incan Peruvian burial mask off the eastern coast of Florida. 
But like unlike Dr. Indiana Jones, some have accused him of stolen valor by exaggerating his military career. They say Torres falsely represented himself as a war hero with two Purple Heart medals. 
His critics say not to believe a word he says. For instance, Michael Torres says he discovered a mass Jewish mass grave in Savannah, Georgia. Is he a serious treasure hunter or just a hack who makes up stories in order to gain attention? 
As a spectator in the world of fraud, I allow myself to get sucked in towards the center of the storm of lies. I do this with great caution. The closer I get, the more believable the stories get. And unlike victims, who are emotionally and financially invested, it's easier for me to circle just outside the hurricane's eye wall. 
In today’s episode, I’ll let you be the judge. Is Michael Torres a war hero/treasure hunter? Or is he a con artist?

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      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2020 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Treasure Hunter part 4</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:summary>A real-life Indiana Jones? 
The word on the street is that Michael Torres is Ph.D. by day and a treasure hunter by night. Torres claims he has an aeronautical engineering degree from Duke University. Don’t believe him? He has a photo of his diploma. Michael Torres also claims to have taught at MIT Lincoln Laboratory. He has the library card to prove it. 
When he’s not in the classroom, Torres is out looking for treasure. He claims he raided catacombs in Turkey, he’s recovered one of Sir Francis Drake’s sunken ship. And most recently, he discovered what he believes is a pre-Incan Peruvian burial mask off the eastern coast of Florida. 
But like unlike Dr. Indiana Jones, some have accused him of stolen valor by exaggerating his military career. They say Torres falsely represented himself as a war hero with two Purple Heart medals. 
His critics say not to believe a word he says. For instance, Michael Torres says he discovered a mass Jewish mass grave in Savannah, Georgia. Is he a serious treasure hunter or just a hack who makes up stories in order to gain attention? 
As a spectator in the world of fraud, I allow myself to get sucked in towards the center of the storm of lies. I do this with great caution. The closer I get, the more believable the stories get. And unlike victims, who are emotionally and financially invested, it's easier for me to circle just outside the hurricane's eye wall. 
In today’s episode, I’ll let you be the judge. Is Michael Torres a war hero/treasure hunter? Or is he a con artist?

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        <![CDATA[<h1><strong>A real-life Indiana Jones? </strong></h1><p>The word on the street is that Michael Torres is Ph.D. by day and a treasure hunter by night. Torres claims he has an aeronautical engineering degree from Duke University. Don’t believe him? He has a photo of his diploma. Michael Torres also claims to have taught at MIT Lincoln Laboratory. He has the library card to prove it. </p><p>When he’s not in the classroom, Torres is out looking for treasure. He claims he raided catacombs in Turkey, he’s recovered one of Sir Francis Drake’s sunken ship. And most recently, he discovered what he believes is a pre-Incan Peruvian burial mask off the eastern coast of Florida. </p><p>But like unlike Dr. Indiana Jones, some have accused him of stolen valor by exaggerating his military career. They say Torres falsely represented himself as a war hero with two Purple Heart medals. </p><p>His critics say not to believe a word he says. For instance, Michael Torres says he discovered a mass Jewish mass grave in Savannah, Georgia. Is he a serious treasure hunter or just a hack who makes up stories in order to gain attention? </p><p>As a spectator in the world of fraud, I allow myself to get sucked in towards the center of the storm of lies. I do this with great caution. The closer I get, the more believable the stories get. And unlike victims, who are emotionally and financially invested, it's easier for me to circle just outside the hurricane's eye wall. </p><p>In today’s episode, I’ll let you be the judge. Is Michael Torres a war hero/treasure hunter? Or is he a con artist?</p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><p><strong>Story idea? </strong></p><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier at info@pretendradio.org.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S608: The Treasure Hunter part 3</title>
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      <description>In this episode, Michael Torres discovers "a mass Jewish grave." But is it what he thinks it is? And I talk to the CEO of Seafarer Exploration to figure out why he hasn't found a single treasure in 13 years. 

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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2020 08:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Treasure Hunter part 3</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Michael Torres discovers "a mass Jewish grave." But is it what he thinks it is? And I talk to the CEO of Seafarer Exploration to figure out why he hasn't found a single treasure in 13 years. 

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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Michael Torres discovers "a mass Jewish grave." But is it what he thinks it is? And I talk to the CEO of Seafarer Exploration to figure out why he hasn't found a single treasure in 13 years. </p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><p><strong>Story idea? </strong></p><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier at info@pretendradio.org.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S607: The Treasure Hunter part 2</title>
      <link>http://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>A modern-day pirate
Michael Torres is a self-proclaimed pirate. He says his most recent finds include the crown jewels of a pre-Incan civilization, a missing colonial settlement, and a desecrated Jewish burial site at Bonaventure cemetery. 
These larger-than-life discoveries have come into question. In today’s episode, we’ll follow the evidence to separate fact from fiction. 
Seafarer Exploration
Michael Torres is currently being sued by Seafarer Exploration, a treasure salvage company. The company says Torres lied about his credentials and has set them back financially. Today, we take a closer look at Seafarer Exploration to understand how this company stays afloat. After all, they’ve been around for 13 years, have millions of dollars in debt, and have yet to find a treasure.
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      <pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2020 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Treasure Hunter part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>A modern-day pirate
Michael Torres is a self-proclaimed pirate. He says his most recent finds include the crown jewels of a pre-Incan civilization, a missing colonial settlement, and a desecrated Jewish burial site at Bonaventure cemetery. 
These larger-than-life discoveries have come into question. In today’s episode, we’ll follow the evidence to separate fact from fiction. 
Seafarer Exploration
Michael Torres is currently being sued by Seafarer Exploration, a treasure salvage company. The company says Torres lied about his credentials and has set them back financially. Today, we take a closer look at Seafarer Exploration to understand how this company stays afloat. After all, they’ve been around for 13 years, have millions of dollars in debt, and have yet to find a treasure.
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        <![CDATA[<h1><strong>A modern-day pirate</strong></h1><p>Michael Torres is a self-proclaimed pirate. He says his most recent finds include the crown jewels of a pre-Incan civilization, a missing colonial settlement, and a desecrated Jewish burial site at Bonaventure cemetery. </p><p>These larger-than-life discoveries have come into question. In today’s episode, we’ll follow the evidence to separate fact from fiction. </p><h1><strong>Seafarer Exploration</strong></h1><p>Michael Torres is currently being sued by Seafarer Exploration, a treasure salvage company. The company says Torres lied about his credentials and has set them back financially. Today, we take a closer look at Seafarer Exploration to understand how this company stays afloat. After all, they’ve been around for 13 years, have millions of dollars in debt, and have yet to find a treasure.</p><p>-------</p><p><strong>Story idea? </strong></p><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier at info@pretendradio.org.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S606: The Treasure Hunter part 1</title>
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      <description>A Florida treasure-hunting CEO says he was tricked by a conman.
Seafarer Exploration, a treasure salvage company, has spent the last 13 years trying to find a 300-year-old Spanish galleon sunken off the coast of Florida. A galleon is a large sailboat, with multiple leveled decks, and 3 or 4 masts. These ships were designed to carry large treasures found in the new world and bring them back to Spain. 
Lost treasure
In 1715, a Spanish fleet loaded up with silver departed from Havana, Cuba. Seven days later, a hurricane off the east coast of central Florida swooped in and took down eleven of the twelve ships. Hence, the reason they call this part of Florida the treasure coast. 
But as you can imagine, trying to find the mother load buried underneath the ocean is like finding a needle in a haystack. If Seafarer Exploration has any chance of finding this treasure, they are going to need to find someone who can build a ship that is powerful enough to scan the ocean floor. Imagine a giant floating metal detector that can capture high-resolution images of the seabed. That's when Kyle Kennedy, CEO of Seafarer Exploration, met a man who said, "Sure. I can build you this machine." His name was Dr. Michael Torres.  
Kyle Kennedy claims that Michael Torres presented himself as an aeronautical engineer who graduated with a doctorate degree from Duke University. Torres also said he taught at MIT Draper labs and represented the NSA while also working on multiple classified government contracts. Kyle Kennedy couldn't believe it. This Dr. Michael Torres guy was perfect! And on top of an unbelievable resume, Kennedy says that Dr. Torres was a wounded war hero, who served two tours in Afghanistan. He was even awarded the Purple Heart medal. 
The lawsuit
Fast-forward a few years later, Kyle Kennedy is now suing Michael Torres for fraud. He says Michael Torres is a con artist who faked his credential. 
So, who is this guy? Dr. Michael Torres? I'm going to track him down to find out if he really is who they say he is. It turns out that the conman in this story is not who you would expect.
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      <pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2020 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Treasure Hunter part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>A Florida treasure-hunting CEO says he was tricked by a conman.
Seafarer Exploration, a treasure salvage company, has spent the last 13 years trying to find a 300-year-old Spanish galleon sunken off the coast of Florida. A galleon is a large sailboat, with multiple leveled decks, and 3 or 4 masts. These ships were designed to carry large treasures found in the new world and bring them back to Spain. 
Lost treasure
In 1715, a Spanish fleet loaded up with silver departed from Havana, Cuba. Seven days later, a hurricane off the east coast of central Florida swooped in and took down eleven of the twelve ships. Hence, the reason they call this part of Florida the treasure coast. 
But as you can imagine, trying to find the mother load buried underneath the ocean is like finding a needle in a haystack. If Seafarer Exploration has any chance of finding this treasure, they are going to need to find someone who can build a ship that is powerful enough to scan the ocean floor. Imagine a giant floating metal detector that can capture high-resolution images of the seabed. That's when Kyle Kennedy, CEO of Seafarer Exploration, met a man who said, "Sure. I can build you this machine." His name was Dr. Michael Torres.  
Kyle Kennedy claims that Michael Torres presented himself as an aeronautical engineer who graduated with a doctorate degree from Duke University. Torres also said he taught at MIT Draper labs and represented the NSA while also working on multiple classified government contracts. Kyle Kennedy couldn't believe it. This Dr. Michael Torres guy was perfect! And on top of an unbelievable resume, Kennedy says that Dr. Torres was a wounded war hero, who served two tours in Afghanistan. He was even awarded the Purple Heart medal. 
The lawsuit
Fast-forward a few years later, Kyle Kennedy is now suing Michael Torres for fraud. He says Michael Torres is a con artist who faked his credential. 
So, who is this guy? Dr. Michael Torres? I'm going to track him down to find out if he really is who they say he is. It turns out that the conman in this story is not who you would expect.
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        <![CDATA[<h1><strong>A Florida treasure-hunting CEO says he was tricked by a conman.</strong></h1><p>Seafarer Exploration, a treasure salvage company, has spent the last 13 years trying to find a 300-year-old Spanish galleon sunken off the coast of Florida. A galleon is a large sailboat, with multiple leveled decks, and 3 or 4 masts. These ships were designed to carry large treasures found in the new world and bring them back to Spain. </p><h1>Lost treasure</h1><p>In 1715, a Spanish fleet loaded up with silver departed from Havana, Cuba. Seven days later, a hurricane off the east coast of central Florida swooped in and took down eleven of the twelve ships. Hence, the reason they call this part of Florida the treasure coast. </p><p>But as you can imagine, trying to find the mother load buried underneath the ocean is like finding a needle in a haystack. If Seafarer Exploration has any chance of finding this treasure, they are going to need to find someone who can build a ship that is powerful enough to scan the ocean floor. Imagine a giant floating metal detector that can capture high-resolution images of the seabed. That's when Kyle Kennedy, CEO of Seafarer Exploration, met a man who said, "Sure. I can build you this machine." His name was Dr. Michael Torres.  </p><p>Kyle Kennedy claims that Michael Torres presented himself as an aeronautical engineer who graduated with a doctorate degree from Duke University. Torres also said he taught at MIT Draper labs and represented the NSA while also working on multiple classified government contracts. Kyle Kennedy couldn't believe it. This Dr. Michael Torres guy was perfect! And on top of an unbelievable resume, Kennedy says that Dr. Torres was a wounded war hero, who served two tours in Afghanistan. He was even awarded the Purple Heart medal. </p><h1>The lawsuit</h1><p>Fast-forward a few years later, Kyle Kennedy is now suing Michael Torres for fraud. He says Michael Torres is a con artist who faked his credential. </p><p>So, who is this guy? Dr. Michael Torres? I'm going to track him down to find out if he really is who they say he is. It turns out that the conman in this story is not who you would expect.</p><p>-------</p><p><strong>Story idea? </strong></p><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at info@pretendradio.org.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S605: The Inheritance</title>
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      <description>A man says his best friend scammed him out of almost $100,000. Now, he's getting revenge.

Jonathan Walton fell for the oldest trick in the book. He said, “It wasn't some Nigerian Prince emailing me in my spam folder. It was a living, breathing, lovable woman.” That lovable woman’s name is Mair Smyth. She’s also known as Marianne Smyth, or Marianne Andle, or Marianne Welch. She has 23 known aliases.
The way Johnathan Walton describes her, Marianne Smyth is a gifted con artist who brilliantly juggles lies with ease. Each lie gracefully circles in the air, passing through her hands, without ever getting caught. But when she decided to rip off Johnathan Walton, she picked the wrong mark. 
You can learn more about this story by visiting https://johnathanwalton.com/

Bonus episode 
Historical Cons - The man who sold the Brooklyn Bridge

Patreon exclusive episode
This is the first in a series of new Patreon only episodes. The series will focus on historical con artists. Today's episode is about the man who sold the Brooklyn Bridge.
This week, I'm joined by Rebekah Sebastian with the Die-alogue podcast and the Yellowtape true crime trivia show. 
Listen here:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/42197195

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      <pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2020 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Inheritance</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>A man says his best friend scammed him out of almost $100,000. Now, he's getting revenge.

Jonathan Walton fell for the oldest trick in the book. He said, “It wasn't some Nigerian Prince emailing me in my spam folder. It was a living, breathing, lovable woman.” That lovable woman’s name is Mair Smyth. She’s also known as Marianne Smyth, or Marianne Andle, or Marianne Welch. She has 23 known aliases.
The way Johnathan Walton describes her, Marianne Smyth is a gifted con artist who brilliantly juggles lies with ease. Each lie gracefully circles in the air, passing through her hands, without ever getting caught. But when she decided to rip off Johnathan Walton, she picked the wrong mark. 
You can learn more about this story by visiting https://johnathanwalton.com/

Bonus episode 
Historical Cons - The man who sold the Brooklyn Bridge

Patreon exclusive episode
This is the first in a series of new Patreon only episodes. The series will focus on historical con artists. Today's episode is about the man who sold the Brooklyn Bridge.
This week, I'm joined by Rebekah Sebastian with the Die-alogue podcast and the Yellowtape true crime trivia show. 
Listen here:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/42197195

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        <![CDATA[<h1><strong>A man says his best friend scammed him out of almost $100,000. Now, he's getting revenge.</strong></h1><p><br></p><p>Jonathan Walton fell for the oldest trick in the book. He said, “It wasn't some Nigerian Prince emailing me in my spam folder. It was a living, breathing, lovable woman.” That lovable woman’s name is Mair Smyth. She’s also known as Marianne Smyth, or Marianne Andle, or Marianne Welch. She has 23 known aliases.</p><p>The way Johnathan Walton describes her, Marianne Smyth is a gifted con artist who brilliantly juggles lies with ease. Each lie gracefully circles in the air, passing through her hands, without ever getting caught. But when she decided to rip off Johnathan Walton, she picked the wrong mark. </p><p>You can learn more about this story by visiting <a href="https://johnathanwalton.com/">https://johnathanwalton.com/</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Bonus episode </strong></p><h1><strong>Historical Cons - The man who sold the Brooklyn Bridge</strong></h1><p><br></p><p>Patreon exclusive episode</p><p>This is the first in a series of new <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">Patreon only episodes</a>. The series will focus on historical con artists. Today's episode is about the man who sold the Brooklyn Bridge.</p><p>This week, I'm joined by <a href="https://www.rebekahsebastian.com/">Rebekah Sebastian</a> with the <a href="https://www.rebekahsebastian.com/diealoguepod">Die-alogue podcast </a>and the <a href="https://www.rebekahsebastian.com/yellow-tape-trivia-show">Yellowtape true crime trivia show</a>. </p><p><strong>Listen here:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/42197195">https://www.patreon.com/posts/42197195</a></p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><p><strong>Story idea? </strong></p><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S604: How to disappear part 4</title>
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      <description>Confessions of a former identity thief 
Dartanyon A. Williams stole his parents' identities at the age of 15. Unfortunately, they weren’t his last victims. Dartanyon, who also goes by DAW, claims he has stolen thousands of identities. So many that he lost count. 
How to steal someone’s identity
How did he do it? He had many tactics. But the most proven technique was paying off employees at restaurants, car dealerships, and tax preparation companies. These employees served as double agents. When no one was looking, they would collect customer social security numbers and smuggle them to DAW. Today, DAW’s life of crime is behind him. He’s currently running for congress this November for the U.S. House to represent Louisiana's 6th Congressional District. 
How to protect your identity
These days, it’s just as easy to steal your identity from a breached database. Everything an identity thief needs to steal your identity is already online. What can you do to protect yourself? 
Click here to see if your email has been involved in a breached database:
https://haveibeenpwned.com/
Freezing your credit and setting up a fraud alert
I’ve taken the extreme step of freezing my credit. It’s actually not really that extreme. In fact, it’s quite easy. In this episode, you’ll hear how simple it is to lock down your credit so that no one can assume your identity. 
Michael Bazzell, a privacy consultant, walks me through the credit freeze process. For more details, download his step-by-step guide. 
Essentially, get a free credit report from one of the credit bureaus, then ask them to freeze your credit. This way, no one can open a line of credit under your name. If you ever need to unfreeze your credit, it’s easy. Just unfreeze your credit by going online or with a quick phone call. 
Equifax
Online: https://www.equifax.com/personal/credit-report-services/credit-freeze/
Experian
Online: https://www.experian.com/freeze/center.html
TransUnion
Online: https://service.transunion.com/dss/orderStep1_form.page

Michael Bazzell
To learn more about Michael Bazzell, check out his website IntelTechniques.com and listen to his podcast The Privacy, Security, &amp; OSINT show. 
I also recommend you buy a copy of Extreme Privacy: What it takes to disappear.

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      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2020 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>How to disappear part 4</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Confessions of a former identity thief 
Dartanyon A. Williams stole his parents' identities at the age of 15. Unfortunately, they weren’t his last victims. Dartanyon, who also goes by DAW, claims he has stolen thousands of identities. So many that he lost count. 
How to steal someone’s identity
How did he do it? He had many tactics. But the most proven technique was paying off employees at restaurants, car dealerships, and tax preparation companies. These employees served as double agents. When no one was looking, they would collect customer social security numbers and smuggle them to DAW. Today, DAW’s life of crime is behind him. He’s currently running for congress this November for the U.S. House to represent Louisiana's 6th Congressional District. 
How to protect your identity
These days, it’s just as easy to steal your identity from a breached database. Everything an identity thief needs to steal your identity is already online. What can you do to protect yourself? 
Click here to see if your email has been involved in a breached database:
https://haveibeenpwned.com/
Freezing your credit and setting up a fraud alert
I’ve taken the extreme step of freezing my credit. It’s actually not really that extreme. In fact, it’s quite easy. In this episode, you’ll hear how simple it is to lock down your credit so that no one can assume your identity. 
Michael Bazzell, a privacy consultant, walks me through the credit freeze process. For more details, download his step-by-step guide. 
Essentially, get a free credit report from one of the credit bureaus, then ask them to freeze your credit. This way, no one can open a line of credit under your name. If you ever need to unfreeze your credit, it’s easy. Just unfreeze your credit by going online or with a quick phone call. 
Equifax
Online: https://www.equifax.com/personal/credit-report-services/credit-freeze/
Experian
Online: https://www.experian.com/freeze/center.html
TransUnion
Online: https://service.transunion.com/dss/orderStep1_form.page

Michael Bazzell
To learn more about Michael Bazzell, check out his website IntelTechniques.com and listen to his podcast The Privacy, Security, &amp; OSINT show. 
I also recommend you buy a copy of Extreme Privacy: What it takes to disappear.

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If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at info@pretendradio.org.

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Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<h1><strong>Confessions of a former identity thief </strong></h1><p>Dartanyon A. Williams stole his parents' identities at the age of 15. Unfortunately, they weren’t his last victims. Dartanyon, who also goes by DAW, claims he has stolen thousands of identities. So many that he lost count. </p><h1><strong>How to steal someone’s identity</strong></h1><p>How did he do it? He had many tactics. But the most proven technique was paying off employees at restaurants, car dealerships, and tax preparation companies. These employees served as double agents. When no one was looking, they would collect customer social security numbers and smuggle them to DAW. Today, DAW’s life of crime is behind him. He’s currently running <a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Dartanyon_Williams">for congress</a> this November for the U.S. House to represent Louisiana's 6th Congressional District. </p><h1><strong>How to protect your identity</strong></h1><p>These days, it’s just as easy to steal your identity from a breached database. Everything an identity thief needs to steal your identity is already online. What can you do to protect yourself? </p><p><strong>Click here to see if your email has been involved in a breached database:</strong></p><p><a href="https://haveibeenpwned.com/">https://haveibeenpwned.com/</a></p><h1><strong>Freezing your credit and setting up a fraud alert</strong></h1><p>I’ve taken the extreme step of freezing my credit. It’s actually not really that extreme. In fact, it’s quite easy. In this episode, you’ll hear how simple it is to lock down your credit so that no one can assume your identity. </p><p><a href="https://inteltechniques.com/">Michael Bazzell</a>, a privacy consultant, walks me through the credit freeze process. For more details, <a href="https://inteltechniques.com/JE/Privacy_Checklists_Feb2019.pdf">download his step-by-step guide</a>. </p><p>Essentially, get a free credit report from one of the credit bureaus, then ask them to freeze your credit. This way, no one can open a line of credit under your name. If you ever need to unfreeze your credit, it’s easy. Just unfreeze your credit by going online or with a quick phone call. </p><p><strong>Equifax</strong></p><p>Online: https://www.equifax.com/personal/credit-report-services/credit-freeze/</p><p><strong>Experian</strong></p><p>Online: https://www.experian.com/freeze/center.html</p><p><strong>TransUnion</strong></p><p>Online: <a href="https://service.transunion.com/dss/orderStep1_form.page">https://service.transunion.com/dss/orderStep1_form.page</a></p><p><br></p><h1><strong>Michael Bazzell</strong></h1><p>To learn more about Michael Bazzell, check out his website <a href="https://inteltechniques.com/podcast.html">IntelTechniques.com</a> and listen to his podcast <a href="https://inteltechniques.com/podcast.html">The Privacy, Security, &amp; OSINT show</a>. </p><p>I also recommend you buy a copy of <a href="https://amzn.to/3lPt0JN">Extreme Privacy: What it takes to disappear</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S603: How to disappear part 3</title>
      <description>In the last two episodes, you heard from Michael Bazzell a privacy expert whose job is to make people disappear. But who is he? Why is he so passionate about privacy? And how exactly does he make people disappear? I'm going to do my best to figure him out. 

It turns out Michael Bazzell eats his own dog food. He's pretty much an invisible man. I have no idea where he lives or what he looks like. I've spent hours talking to Michael these past few months hoping that he will slip up and let out some detail about his private life. Nope. This guy is locked down and takes his privacy seriously. 

If you want to disappear, here is a checklist of things you’ll need to get started:

First, you’ll need a copy of Michael Bazzell’s book titled Extreme Privacy: What it takes to disappear.


A secure VPN to protect your location. Michael Bazzell says that a VPN is probably the single most important item on this list. 

A Faraday bag for your smartphone like this one. 


For more resources, make sure to visit inteltechniques.com. And make sure to check out Michael Bazzell’s podcast The Privacy, Security, &amp; OSINT Show.


It's time to reevaluate your digital privacy. Everything you need to know in order to live off the digital grid.

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      <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2020 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>How to disappear part 3</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In the last two episodes, you heard from Michael Bazzell a privacy expert whose job is to make people disappear. But who is he? Why is he so passionate about privacy? And how exactly does he make people disappear? I'm going to do my best to figure him out. 

It turns out Michael Bazzell eats his own dog food. He's pretty much an invisible man. I have no idea where he lives or what he looks like. I've spent hours talking to Michael these past few months hoping that he will slip up and let out some detail about his private life. Nope. This guy is locked down and takes his privacy seriously. 

If you want to disappear, here is a checklist of things you’ll need to get started:

First, you’ll need a copy of Michael Bazzell’s book titled Extreme Privacy: What it takes to disappear.


A secure VPN to protect your location. Michael Bazzell says that a VPN is probably the single most important item on this list. 

A Faraday bag for your smartphone like this one. 


For more resources, make sure to visit inteltechniques.com. And make sure to check out Michael Bazzell’s podcast The Privacy, Security, &amp; OSINT Show.


It's time to reevaluate your digital privacy. Everything you need to know in order to live off the digital grid.

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Story idea? 
If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at info@pretendradio.org.

For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.

To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the last two episodes, you heard from Michael Bazzell a privacy expert whose job is to make people disappear. But who is he? Why is he so passionate about privacy? And how exactly does he make people disappear? I'm going to do my best to figure him out. </p><p><br></p><p>It turns out Michael Bazzell eats his own dog food. He's pretty much an invisible man. I have no idea where he lives or what he looks like. I've spent hours talking to Michael these past few months hoping that he will slip up and let out some detail about his private life. Nope. This guy is locked down and takes his privacy seriously. </p><p><br></p><h1>If you want to disappear, here is a checklist of things you’ll need to get started:</h1><p><br></p><p>First, you’ll need a copy of Michael Bazzell’s book titled <a href="https://amzn.to/3lPt0JN">Extreme Privacy: What it takes to disappear</a>.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://www.privateinternetaccess.com/pages/buy-vpn/pret">A secure VPN </a>to protect your location. Michael Bazzell says that a VPN is probably the single most important item on this list. </p><p><br></p><p>A Faraday bag for your smartphone <a href="https://amzn.to/31Xl6q1">like this one</a>. </p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>For more resources, make sure to visit <a href="https://inteltechniques.com/links.html">inteltechniques.com</a>. And make sure to check out Michael Bazzell’s podcast <a href="https://inteltechniques.com/podcast.html">The Privacy, Security, &amp; OSINT Show</a>.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>It's time to reevaluate your digital privacy. Everything you need to know in order to live off the digital grid.</p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S602: How to disappear part 2</title>
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      <description>In the last episode, we talked about the wrong way to disappear. Faking your own death rarely works. But did you know that there are real people out there who legitimately need to fade away into society? 
Who needs to disappear?
There are many reasons to live anonymously. However, we’ve broken it down to four different archetypes: the executive, the celebrity, the victim, and the government employee. 

The executive
CEOs and business executives are easy targets. They take all the credit when things go right. But they’re also responsible any time something goes wrong. And when that happens they have to minimize the threat. It could be a disgruntled employee, or they'be a target because of their wealth. Recently, a Silicon Valley CEO was kidnapped and murdered by two former employees. Hear tactics executives use to live privately.
The celebrity
Today’s celebrities are more accessible than ever. Stars like Taylor Swift, Eminem, and UFC fighter Anthony Smith have had their homes broken into. Alison Sweeney, from Days of our Lives and the Biggest Loser, talks about balancing the limelight with basic privacy rights. 
The victim
Often times, domestic violence victims need to disappear in order to survive. Hear the story on how one victim fled her attacker. 
The government employee
Judges and prosecutors are often targets of intimidation and death threats. And police are targets too due to the heightened attention on police brutality and racial profiling. Learn how government employees eliminate the threat by making themselves impossible to find.

This series is a collaboration with Michael Bazzell. In the next few episodes, we’re going to show you to successfully vanish from society. You too can live undetected. It’s not just for wealthy CEOs. 

For more than 20 years, Michael Bazzell worked on behalf of the US government investigating computer crimes. He was also a consultant on the hacker show Mr. Robot. He no longer works for the government. These days, Michael Bazzell helps people disappear.

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Get Michael Bazzell's book:
Extreme Privacy: What it takes to disappear

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      <pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2020 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>How to disappear part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In the last episode, we talked about the wrong way to disappear. Faking your own death rarely works. But did you know that there are real people out there who legitimately need to fade away into society? 
Who needs to disappear?
There are many reasons to live anonymously. However, we’ve broken it down to four different archetypes: the executive, the celebrity, the victim, and the government employee. 

The executive
CEOs and business executives are easy targets. They take all the credit when things go right. But they’re also responsible any time something goes wrong. And when that happens they have to minimize the threat. It could be a disgruntled employee, or they'be a target because of their wealth. Recently, a Silicon Valley CEO was kidnapped and murdered by two former employees. Hear tactics executives use to live privately.
The celebrity
Today’s celebrities are more accessible than ever. Stars like Taylor Swift, Eminem, and UFC fighter Anthony Smith have had their homes broken into. Alison Sweeney, from Days of our Lives and the Biggest Loser, talks about balancing the limelight with basic privacy rights. 
The victim
Often times, domestic violence victims need to disappear in order to survive. Hear the story on how one victim fled her attacker. 
The government employee
Judges and prosecutors are often targets of intimidation and death threats. And police are targets too due to the heightened attention on police brutality and racial profiling. Learn how government employees eliminate the threat by making themselves impossible to find.

This series is a collaboration with Michael Bazzell. In the next few episodes, we’re going to show you to successfully vanish from society. You too can live undetected. It’s not just for wealthy CEOs. 

For more than 20 years, Michael Bazzell worked on behalf of the US government investigating computer crimes. He was also a consultant on the hacker show Mr. Robot. He no longer works for the government. These days, Michael Bazzell helps people disappear.

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Get Michael Bazzell's book:
Extreme Privacy: What it takes to disappear

Affiliate link disclaimer.

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If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at info@pretendradio.org.

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To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the <a href="http://pretendradio.org/how-to-disappear-patrick-mcdermott-olivia-newton-john/">last episode</a>, we talked about the wrong way to disappear. Faking your own death rarely works. But did you know that there are real people out there who legitimately need to fade away into society? </p><p>Who needs to disappear?</p><p>There are many reasons to live anonymously. However, we’ve broken it down to four different archetypes: the executive, the celebrity, the victim, and the government employee. </p><p><br></p><h1>The executive</h1><p>CEOs and business executives are easy targets. They take all the credit when things go right. But they’re also responsible any time something goes wrong. And when that happens they have to minimize the threat. It could be a disgruntled employee, or they'be a target because of their wealth. <a href="https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/05/22/santa-cruz-ceos-murder-2-suspects-had-worked-for-him/">Recently, a Silicon Valley CEO was kidnapped and murdered by two former employees.</a> Hear tactics executives use to live privately.</p><h1>The celebrity</h1><p>Today’s celebrities are more accessible than ever. Stars like <a href="https://www.aol.com/article/entertainment/2019/03/07/taylor-swifts-stalker-arrested-for-breaking-into-her-home-for-the-second-time/23686992/">Taylor Swift</a>, <a href="https://www.tmz.com/2020/05/02/eminem-home-intruder-tried-before-old-house-arrested/">Eminem</a>, and <a href="https://www.tmz.com/2020/04/07/ufc-anthony-smith-home-invader-fight/">UFC fighter Anthony Smith</a> have had their homes broken into. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alison_Sweeney">Alison Sweeney,</a> from Days of our Lives and the Biggest Loser, talks about balancing the limelight with basic privacy rights. </p><h1>The victim</h1><p>Often times, domestic violence victims need to disappear in order to survive. Hear the story on how one victim fled her attacker. </p><h1>The government employee</h1><p>Judges and prosecutors are often targets of intimidation and death threats. And police are targets too due to the heightened attention on police brutality and racial profiling. Learn how government employees eliminate the threat by making themselves impossible to find.</p><p><br></p><p>This series is a collaboration with <a href="https://inteltechniques.com/">Michael Bazzell</a>. In the next few episodes, we’re going to show you to successfully vanish from society. You too can live undetected. It’s not just for wealthy CEOs. </p><p><br></p><p>For more than 20 years, Michael Bazzell worked on behalf of the US government investigating computer crimes. He was also a consultant on the hacker show Mr. Robot. He no longer works for the government. These days, Michael Bazzell helps people disappear.</p><p><br></p><p>----</p><h1><strong>Get Michael Bazzell's book:</strong></h1><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0898YGR58/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=pretend03-20&amp;linkCode=w00&amp;linkId=86b77bf9e89224ae26ca22b424dbac89&amp;creativeASIN=B0898YGR58">Extreme Privacy: What it takes to disappear</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://pretendradio.org/affiliate-link-disclaimer/">Affiliate link disclaimer.</a></p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S601: How to disappear part 1</title>
      <link>http://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>Did Olivia Newton-John’s Former Boyfriend Fake His Own Death?Faking your own death is almost always a bad idea. Hear the story of Patrick McDermott, Olivia Newton John’s boyfriend, who many believe staged his own death. 
The wrong way to disappear
People have been playing dead since the beginning of time. There’s really no way of knowing for how long this has been going on. But I can imagine that the illusion of dying is closely correlated with the concept of debt. If you owe someone lots of money, you have two options: either pay it or run away. 
Patrick McDermott, Olivia Newton-John’s missing boyfriend, had every reason to run away. His film work had dried up and he owed his ex-wife thousands of dollars in back child support.
It took 10 days for anyone to realize he was missing. Olivia Newton-John wasn’t looking for him because they had just recently broken up. It wasn’t until he didn’t show up to pick up his son that his ex-wife noticed something was wrong. But people can’t just run away without leaving behind clues.  
Patrick McDermott was last seen after going on an overnight fishing trip. Was McDermott lost at sea or was he just on the run? The truth is, no one wanted to find out. His ex-wife filed a claim on his life insurance. And Olivia Newton John wanted the whole thing put behind her.
When the manager of the marina was asked about McDermott’s whereabouts, he said that Patrick McDermott’s name was indeed on the ship’s manifesto. And there was something else. He left behind his tackle box. Inside, they found his wallet, driver’s license, and car keys. 
Why would anyone want to fake their own death?
I haven’t seen any real study on this topic but I can imagine that there are many reasons why someone would want to leave their own life behind and start fresh. It could be forbidden love like in Romeo and Juliet. Or it can be greed—like someone trying to cash in on their own life insurance policy. When it comes to dying, people have many different motivations. 
How to disappear with Michael Bazzell
This series is a collaboration with Michael Bazzell, a privacy consultant and host of The PRIVACY, SECURITY, &amp; OSINT Show. We’re going to show you the wrong way and the right way to disappear. 
Buy the book: Extreme Privacy: What it takes to disappear by Michael Bazzell:
https://amzn.to/2XFm4of
A special thanks to Philip Klein. If you want to read more about Patrick McDermott’s disappearance, check out the book “Lost at Sea: The hunt for Patrick McDermott.”
Buy the book: Lost at Sea
https://amzn.to/3ihMjcf

Affiliate link disclaimer.

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      <pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2020 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>How to disappear part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Did Olivia Newton-John’s Former Boyfriend Fake His Own Death?Faking your own death is almost always a bad idea. Hear the story of Patrick McDermott, Olivia Newton John’s boyfriend, who many believe staged his own death. 
The wrong way to disappear
People have been playing dead since the beginning of time. There’s really no way of knowing for how long this has been going on. But I can imagine that the illusion of dying is closely correlated with the concept of debt. If you owe someone lots of money, you have two options: either pay it or run away. 
Patrick McDermott, Olivia Newton-John’s missing boyfriend, had every reason to run away. His film work had dried up and he owed his ex-wife thousands of dollars in back child support.
It took 10 days for anyone to realize he was missing. Olivia Newton-John wasn’t looking for him because they had just recently broken up. It wasn’t until he didn’t show up to pick up his son that his ex-wife noticed something was wrong. But people can’t just run away without leaving behind clues.  
Patrick McDermott was last seen after going on an overnight fishing trip. Was McDermott lost at sea or was he just on the run? The truth is, no one wanted to find out. His ex-wife filed a claim on his life insurance. And Olivia Newton John wanted the whole thing put behind her.
When the manager of the marina was asked about McDermott’s whereabouts, he said that Patrick McDermott’s name was indeed on the ship’s manifesto. And there was something else. He left behind his tackle box. Inside, they found his wallet, driver’s license, and car keys. 
Why would anyone want to fake their own death?
I haven’t seen any real study on this topic but I can imagine that there are many reasons why someone would want to leave their own life behind and start fresh. It could be forbidden love like in Romeo and Juliet. Or it can be greed—like someone trying to cash in on their own life insurance policy. When it comes to dying, people have many different motivations. 
How to disappear with Michael Bazzell
This series is a collaboration with Michael Bazzell, a privacy consultant and host of The PRIVACY, SECURITY, &amp; OSINT Show. We’re going to show you the wrong way and the right way to disappear. 
Buy the book: Extreme Privacy: What it takes to disappear by Michael Bazzell:
https://amzn.to/2XFm4of
A special thanks to Philip Klein. If you want to read more about Patrick McDermott’s disappearance, check out the book “Lost at Sea: The hunt for Patrick McDermott.”
Buy the book: Lost at Sea
https://amzn.to/3ihMjcf

Affiliate link disclaimer.

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        <![CDATA[<p>Did Olivia Newton-John’s Former Boyfriend Fake His Own Death?Faking your own death is almost always a bad idea. Hear the story of Patrick McDermott, Olivia Newton John’s boyfriend, who many believe staged his own death. </p><h1>The wrong way to disappear</h1><p>People have been playing dead since the beginning of time. There’s really no way of knowing for how long this has been going on. But I can imagine that the illusion of dying is closely correlated with the concept of debt. If you owe someone lots of money, you have two options: either pay it or run away. </p><p>Patrick McDermott, Olivia Newton-John’s missing boyfriend, had every reason to run away. His film work had dried up and he owed his ex-wife thousands of dollars in back child support.</p><p>It took 10 days for anyone to realize he was missing. Olivia Newton-John wasn’t looking for him because they had just recently broken up. It wasn’t until he didn’t show up to pick up his son that his ex-wife noticed something was wrong. But people can’t just run away without leaving behind clues.  </p><p>Patrick McDermott was last seen after going on an overnight fishing trip. Was McDermott lost at sea or was he just on the run? The truth is, no one wanted to find out. His ex-wife filed a claim on his life insurance. And Olivia Newton John wanted the whole thing put behind her.</p><p>When the manager of the marina was asked about McDermott’s whereabouts, he said that Patrick McDermott’s name was indeed on the ship’s manifesto. And there was something else. He left behind his tackle box. Inside, they found his wallet, driver’s license, and car keys. </p><h1>Why would anyone want to fake their own death?</h1><p>I haven’t seen any real study on this topic but I can imagine that there are many reasons why someone would want to leave their own life behind and start fresh. It could be forbidden love like in Romeo and Juliet. Or it can be greed—like someone trying to cash in on their own life insurance policy. When it comes to dying, people have many different motivations. </p><h1>How to disappear with Michael Bazzell</h1><p>This series is a collaboration with Michael Bazzell, a privacy consultant and host of <a href="https://inteltechniques.com/links.html"><strong>The PRIVACY, SECURITY, &amp; OSINT Show</strong></a><strong>. </strong>We’re going to show you the wrong way and the right way to disappear. </p><p>Buy the book: Extreme Privacy: What it takes to disappear by Michael Bazzell:</p><p><a href="https://amzn.to/2XFm4of">https://amzn.to/2XFm4of</a></p><p>A special thanks to Philip Klein. If you want to read more about Patrick McDermott’s disappearance, check out the book “Lost at Sea: The hunt for Patrick McDermott.”</p><h1>Buy the book: Lost at Sea</h1><p><a href="https://amzn.to/3ihMjcf">https://amzn.to/3ihMjcf</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://pretendradio.org/affiliate-link-disclaimer/">Affiliate link disclaimer.</a></p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S512: COVID-19 Scams: The Rattlesnake King</title>
      <link>http://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>The COVID-19 pandemic is a conman’s Super Bowl. In times like these, when there's so much uncertainty, snake oil salesmen are ready to promise you a cure.

In this episode, you'll hear from a woman who takes one of these miracle drugs. I ask her why she takes it.

Special thanks to:
Joe Terrell with Instrument of Mercy https://instrumentofmercy.com/
A Concerned Citizen and host of Swindled

Sources:
https://www.who.int/csr/don/2011_11_24/en/
https://wayback.archive-it.org/7993/20170722143956/https:/www.fda.gov/Food/RecallsOutbreaksEmergencies/SafetyAlertsAdvisories/ucm184087.htm
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/what-can-coronavirus-tell-us-about-conspiracy-theories/610894/
https://news.gallup.com/poll/248837/church-membership-down-sharply-past-two-decades.aspx
https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2020/may/holy-spirit-empowered-christian-global-pentecostal-study.html

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      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2020 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>COVID-19 Scams: The Rattlesnake King</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The COVID-19 pandemic is a conman’s Super Bowl. In times like these, when there's so much uncertainty, snake oil salesmen are ready to promise you a cure.

In this episode, you'll hear from a woman who takes one of these miracle drugs. I ask her why she takes it.

Special thanks to:
Joe Terrell with Instrument of Mercy https://instrumentofmercy.com/
A Concerned Citizen and host of Swindled

Sources:
https://www.who.int/csr/don/2011_11_24/en/
https://wayback.archive-it.org/7993/20170722143956/https:/www.fda.gov/Food/RecallsOutbreaksEmergencies/SafetyAlertsAdvisories/ucm184087.htm
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/what-can-coronavirus-tell-us-about-conspiracy-theories/610894/
https://news.gallup.com/poll/248837/church-membership-down-sharply-past-two-decades.aspx
https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2020/may/holy-spirit-empowered-christian-global-pentecostal-study.html

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        <![CDATA[<p>The COVID-19 pandemic is a conman’s Super Bowl. In times like these, when there's so much uncertainty, snake oil salesmen are ready to promise you a cure.</p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, you'll hear from a woman who takes one of these miracle drugs. I ask her why she takes it.</p><h1><br></h1><h1>Special thanks to:</h1><p>Joe Terrell with Instrument of Mercy <a href="https://instrumentofmercy.com/">https://instrumentofmercy.com/</a></p><p>A Concerned Citizen and host of Swindled</p><p><br></p><h1>Sources:</h1><p><a href="https://www.who.int/csr/don/2011_11_24/en/">https://www.who.int/csr/don/2011_11_24/en/</a></p><p><a href="https://wayback.archive-it.org/7993/20170722143956/https:/www.fda.gov/Food/RecallsOutbreaksEmergencies/SafetyAlertsAdvisories/ucm184087.htm">https://wayback.archive-it.org/7993/20170722143956/https:/www.fda.gov/Food/RecallsOutbreaksEmergencies/SafetyAlertsAdvisories/ucm184087.htm</a></p><p><a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/what-can-coronavirus-tell-us-about-conspiracy-theories/610894/">https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/04/what-can-coronavirus-tell-us-about-conspiracy-theories/610894/</a></p><p><a href="https://news.gallup.com/poll/248837/church-membership-down-sharply-past-two-decades.aspx">https://news.gallup.com/poll/248837/church-membership-down-sharply-past-two-decades.aspx</a></p><p><a href="https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2020/may/holy-spirit-empowered-christian-global-pentecostal-study.html">https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2020/may/holy-spirit-empowered-christian-global-pentecostal-study.html</a></p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S511: COVID-19 Scams: How to Steal a Stimulus Check</title>
      <link>http://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>COVID-19 Scams
I wasn’t expecting to be back with a new PRETEND episode so soon. In fact, I’m still wrapping up the final episodes for my new show called CRIMINAL CONDUCT. But the world around us has changed. And scammers are on the prowl. 
If you live in the US, chances are you probably received your stimulus payment. It went either straight into your bank account through direct deposit. Or some of you may have cashed the check that you received in the mail. 
We’re talking about much-needed money for tens of millions of Americans out of work due to the Coronavirus. $1,200 for individuals and $3,400 for a family of four. 
The IRS has sent out 150 million payments so far since the time of this recording… but more payments are still expected to still arrive through the end of June. 
And if you haven’t received your check, you’re probably wondering what’s the hold-up? Unfortunately for some, your money is probably gone and in the hands of thieves. 
Today, I’m going to show you exactly how easy it is for scammers to steal your money. In fact, I’ve challenged a privacy expert to try and hack into my private information. I was really shocked at what he was able to find.
Resources:

Password managers
1Password.com (User-friendly and secure)
Bitwarden (More secure cloud-based password manager)
KeePassXC (More secure computer-based password manager) 

Search to see if you’re password is exposed in a breached database
https://haveibeenpwned.com/

Credit freezes 
Credit Freeze Tutorial (Full Workbook) 
Annual Credit Report (Free credit report to detect fraud)
Enable 2-factor authentication on all platforms that support it https://twofactorauth.org/

Online removal workbook
https://inteltechniques.com/data/workbook.pdf

Additional resources
Michael Bazzell’s website Intel Techniques
Eva Velasquez Identity Theft Resource Center

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      <pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2020 07:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>COVID-19 Scams: How to Steal a Stimulus Check</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>COVID-19 Scams
I wasn’t expecting to be back with a new PRETEND episode so soon. In fact, I’m still wrapping up the final episodes for my new show called CRIMINAL CONDUCT. But the world around us has changed. And scammers are on the prowl. 
If you live in the US, chances are you probably received your stimulus payment. It went either straight into your bank account through direct deposit. Or some of you may have cashed the check that you received in the mail. 
We’re talking about much-needed money for tens of millions of Americans out of work due to the Coronavirus. $1,200 for individuals and $3,400 for a family of four. 
The IRS has sent out 150 million payments so far since the time of this recording… but more payments are still expected to still arrive through the end of June. 
And if you haven’t received your check, you’re probably wondering what’s the hold-up? Unfortunately for some, your money is probably gone and in the hands of thieves. 
Today, I’m going to show you exactly how easy it is for scammers to steal your money. In fact, I’ve challenged a privacy expert to try and hack into my private information. I was really shocked at what he was able to find.
Resources:

Password managers
1Password.com (User-friendly and secure)
Bitwarden (More secure cloud-based password manager)
KeePassXC (More secure computer-based password manager) 

Search to see if you’re password is exposed in a breached database
https://haveibeenpwned.com/

Credit freezes 
Credit Freeze Tutorial (Full Workbook) 
Annual Credit Report (Free credit report to detect fraud)
Enable 2-factor authentication on all platforms that support it https://twofactorauth.org/

Online removal workbook
https://inteltechniques.com/data/workbook.pdf

Additional resources
Michael Bazzell’s website Intel Techniques
Eva Velasquez Identity Theft Resource Center

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        <![CDATA[<h1>COVID-19 Scams</h1><p>I wasn’t expecting to be back with a new PRETEND episode so soon. In fact, I’m still wrapping up the final episodes for my new show called CRIMINAL CONDUCT. But the world around us has changed. And scammers are on the prowl. </p><p>If you live in the US, chances are you probably received your stimulus payment. It went either straight into your bank account through direct deposit. Or some of you may have cashed the check that you received in the mail. </p><p>We’re talking about much-needed money for tens of millions of Americans out of work due to the Coronavirus. $1,200 for individuals and $3,400 for a family of four. </p><p>The IRS has sent out 150 million payments so far since the time of this recording… but more payments are still expected to still arrive through the end of June. </p><p>And if you haven’t received your check, you’re probably wondering what’s the hold-up? Unfortunately for some, <a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwjuze7G19DpAhXmg3IEHUoEBf4QFjAAegQIBRAB&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2020%2F04%2F22%2Ftechnology%2Fstimulus-checks-hackers-coronavirus.html&amp;usg=AOvVaw1-ZKh-3cDMu5GC6eQj-Ujh">your money is probably gone and in the hands of thieves.</a> </p><p>Today, I’m going to show you exactly how easy it is for scammers to steal your money. In fact, I’ve challenged a privacy expert to try and hack into my private information. I was really shocked at what he was able to find.</p><h1>Resources:</h1><p><br></p><h1><strong>Password managers</strong></h1><p><a href="https://1password.com/">1Password.com</a> (User-friendly and secure)</p><p><a href="https://bitwarden.com/">Bitwarden</a> (More secure cloud-based password manager)</p><p><a href="https://keepassxc.org/">KeePassXC</a> (More secure computer-based password manager) </p><p><br></p><h1><strong>Search to see if you’re password is exposed in a breached database</strong></h1><p><a href="https://haveibeenpwned.com/">https://haveibeenpwned.com/</a></p><p><br></p><h1><strong>Credit freezes </strong></h1><p><a href="https://inteltechniques.com/data/workbook.pdf">Credit Freeze Tutorial</a> (Full Workbook) </p><p><a href="https://www.annualcreditreport.com/index.action">Annual Credit Report</a> (Free credit report to detect fraud)</p><p>Enable 2-factor authentication on all platforms that support it <a href="https://twofactorauth.org/">https://twofactorauth.org/</a></p><p><br></p><h1>Online removal workbook</h1><p><a href="https://inteltechniques.com/data/workbook.pdf">https://inteltechniques.com/data/workbook.pdf</a></p><p><br></p><h1>Additional resources</h1><p>Michael Bazzell’s website <a href="https://inteltechniques.com/links.html">Intel Techniques</a></p><p>Eva Velasquez <a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwiEjcLN2tDpAhVVmHIEHbAvDbMQFjAAegQIDxAC&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.idtheftcenter.org%2F&amp;usg=AOvVaw1LPHUq0glgXlmO9bn3wP1m">Identity Theft Resource Center</a></p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Inside Criminal Conduct</title>
      <link>https://www.patreon.com/posts/34832524</link>
      <description>//Criminal Conduct debuts on March 23rd.//

Get an inside look into the making of the new podcast. Thank you to Jerri Williams from FBI Retired Case File Review for helping us with this bonus episode.

You can listen to the episode one now on Patreon.
https://www.patreon.com/posts/34832524

Subscribe to Criminal Conduct now so you won't miss an episode.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2020 13:15:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Criminal Conduct debuts March 23rd</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>//Criminal Conduct debuts on March 23rd.//

Get an inside look into the making of the new podcast. Thank you to Jerri Williams from FBI Retired Case File Review for helping us with this bonus episode.

You can listen to the episode one now on Patreon.
https://www.patreon.com/posts/34832524

Subscribe to Criminal Conduct now so you won't miss an episode.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>//Criminal Conduct debuts on March 23rd.//</p><p><br></p><p>Get an inside look into the making of the new podcast. Thank you to <a href="https://jerriwilliams.com/">Jerri Williams from FBI Retired Case File Review</a> for helping us with this bonus episode.</p><p><br></p><p>You can listen to the episode one now on Patreon.</p><p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/34832524">https://www.patreon.com/posts/34832524</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://criminalconduct.net/">Subscribe to Criminal Conduct </a>now so you won't miss an episode.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1203</itunes:duration>
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      <title>BIG ANNOUNCEMENT: Criminal Conduct</title>
      <link>http://criminalconduct.net/</link>
      <description>On September 2nd, 2010, 24 year-old Michelle O’Connell broke up with her boyfriend, St. Johns County Sheriff’s Deputy, Jeremy Banks. Minutes later, she was dead.
The St. Johns Sheriff’s Office quickly ruled the case a suicide, without examining crucial forensic evidence or interviewing any key witnesses. A medical examiner ruled her death a homicide, yet other investigations failed to gain traction.
Her boyfriend, Deputy Jeremy Banks was never charged and is still working as a St. Johns County Sheriff’s Deputy.
Years later, an amateur sleuth named Eli Washtock winds up murdered after investigating Michelle O’Connell’s death. What did he find out?
‘Criminal Conduct’ is an investigative true crime podcast series hosted by John Taylor and Javier Leiva. The hosts retrace the footsteps of Eli Washtock, the slain sleuth; picking up the investigation where he left off.
‘Criminal Conduct’ will be released in the spring of 2020. Subscribe now on all podcast platforms.
criminalconduct.net

Apple Podcast
https://apple.co/2S4KaoG
Google Play
http://bit.ly/CriminalConGoogle
Stitcher
http://bit.ly/CriminalConStitcher
Spotify
https://spoti.fi/2S0
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Feb 2020 13:19:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>On September 2nd, 2010, 24 year-old Michelle O’Connell broke up with her boyfriend, St. Johns County Sheriff’s Deputy, Jeremy Banks. Minutes later, she was dead.
The St. Johns Sheriff’s Office quickly ruled the case a suicide, without examining crucial forensic evidence or interviewing any key witnesses. A medical examiner ruled her death a homicide, yet other investigations failed to gain traction.
Her boyfriend, Deputy Jeremy Banks was never charged and is still working as a St. Johns County Sheriff’s Deputy.
Years later, an amateur sleuth named Eli Washtock winds up murdered after investigating Michelle O’Connell’s death. What did he find out?
‘Criminal Conduct’ is an investigative true crime podcast series hosted by John Taylor and Javier Leiva. The hosts retrace the footsteps of Eli Washtock, the slain sleuth; picking up the investigation where he left off.
‘Criminal Conduct’ will be released in the spring of 2020. Subscribe now on all podcast platforms.
criminalconduct.net

Apple Podcast
https://apple.co/2S4KaoG
Google Play
http://bit.ly/CriminalConGoogle
Stitcher
http://bit.ly/CriminalConStitcher
Spotify
https://spoti.fi/2S0
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>On September 2nd, 2010, 24 year-old Michelle O’Connell broke up with her boyfriend, St. Johns County Sheriff’s Deputy, Jeremy Banks. Minutes later, she was dead.</p><p>The St. Johns Sheriff’s Office quickly ruled the case a suicide, without examining crucial forensic evidence or interviewing any key witnesses. A medical examiner ruled her death a homicide, yet other investigations failed to gain traction.</p><p>Her boyfriend, Deputy Jeremy Banks was never charged and is still working as a St. Johns County Sheriff’s Deputy.</p><p>Years later, an amateur sleuth named Eli Washtock winds up murdered after investigating Michelle O’Connell’s death. What did he find out?</p><p>‘Criminal Conduct’ is an investigative true crime podcast series hosted by John Taylor and Javier Leiva. The hosts retrace the footsteps of Eli Washtock, the slain sleuth; picking up the investigation where he left off.</p><p><strong>‘Criminal Conduct’ will be released in the spring of 2020. Subscribe now on all podcast platforms.</strong></p><p>criminalconduct.net</p><p><br></p><p>Apple Podcast</p><p>https://apple.co/2S4KaoG</p><p>Google Play</p><p>http://bit.ly/CriminalConGoogle</p><p>Stitcher</p><p>http://bit.ly/CriminalConStitcher</p><p>Spotify</p><p>https://spoti.fi/2S0</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>168</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S510: The Joe Schmo Show</title>
      <description>The Joe Schmo Show is a real-life Truman Show—where everyone is an actor except one unsuspecting guy. It’s a reality show within a reality show. 
The series everyone watched on SPIKE TV was called The Joe Schmo show. But the show Matt Kennedy Gould thought he was participating in was called The Lap of Luxury—a Big Brother style television show. He had no idea that the people he was living with were all actors. 

The series was created by Paul Wernick and Rhett Reese (Deadpool). It was hosted by Ralph Garman and written and produced by J. Holland Moore. Season one starred a young Kristen Wiig who played a quack psychiatrist. I must warn you. This show did not age well. It would not survive in today’s #metoo movement. Despite what it lacks in sensitivity, it makes up for in its ingenuity and heart. 

In this episode, Melissa with Moms and Murder and I talk with Chase Rogan, season three’s Joe Schmo, to find out what it’s like to be the star of television’s biggest hoax.

Credits
Today’s episode was written and produced by me and Melissa. 
Original music was provided by thechicken.net
Additional music by Blue dot sessions
All clips in this podcast were used in compliance with the US copyright act for fair use exemption, for criticism and commentary 

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      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2020 01:56:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Joe Schmo Show</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The Joe Schmo Show is a real-life Truman Show—where everyone is an actor except one unsuspecting guy. It’s a reality show within a reality show. 
The series everyone watched on SPIKE TV was called The Joe Schmo show. But the show Matt Kennedy Gould thought he was participating in was called The Lap of Luxury—a Big Brother style television show. He had no idea that the people he was living with were all actors. 

The series was created by Paul Wernick and Rhett Reese (Deadpool). It was hosted by Ralph Garman and written and produced by J. Holland Moore. Season one starred a young Kristen Wiig who played a quack psychiatrist. I must warn you. This show did not age well. It would not survive in today’s #metoo movement. Despite what it lacks in sensitivity, it makes up for in its ingenuity and heart. 

In this episode, Melissa with Moms and Murder and I talk with Chase Rogan, season three’s Joe Schmo, to find out what it’s like to be the star of television’s biggest hoax.

Credits
Today’s episode was written and produced by me and Melissa. 
Original music was provided by thechicken.net
Additional music by Blue dot sessions
All clips in this podcast were used in compliance with the US copyright act for fair use exemption, for criticism and commentary 

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To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The Joe Schmo Show is a real-life Truman Show—where everyone is an actor except one unsuspecting guy. It’s a reality show within a reality show. </p><p>The series everyone watched on SPIKE TV was called The Joe Schmo show. But the show Matt Kennedy Gould thought he was participating in was called The Lap of Luxury—a Big Brother style television show. He had no idea that the people he was living with were all actors. </p><p><br></p><p>The series was created by Paul Wernick and Rhett Reese (Deadpool). It was hosted by Ralph Garman and written and produced by J. Holland Moore. Season one starred a young Kristen Wiig who played a quack psychiatrist. I must warn you. This show did not age well. It would not survive in today’s #metoo movement. Despite what it lacks in sensitivity, it makes up for in its ingenuity and heart. </p><p><br></p><p>In this episode, Melissa with Moms and Murder and I talk with Chase Rogan, season three’s Joe Schmo, to find out what it’s like to be the star of television’s biggest hoax.</p><p><br></p><h1>Credits</h1><p>Today’s episode was written and produced by me and Melissa. </p><p>Original music was provided by thechicken.net</p><p>Additional music by Blue dot sessions</p><p>All clips in this podcast were used in compliance with the US copyright act for fair use exemption, for criticism and commentary </p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S509: The Santa Claus Man</title>
      <description>A con artist save Christmas
Brian Earl with the Christmas Past podcast shares a Christmas story you’ve probably never heard before. In the early 1900s, children’s letters to Santa Claus never made it to the North Pole. They landed in the dead letter office and were eventually destroyed.
But along came John Gluck, a hustler who took these letters to Santa and turned it into an opportunity to get rich and famous.
It’s the strange and true story of government agents, spies, an art thief, U.S. presidents, and gun-toting boy scouts.
Check out “My Dear Santa” with Brian Earl from the Christmas Past podcast

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Credits
Today’s show was written and edited by Javier Leiva.
Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with TheChicken.net.
Additional music by Podington Bear.

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Support for this episode is brought to you by Detective Trapp
Anaheim investigator Julissa Trapp is not like other detectives. She’s the only woman on the homicide squad, and a skilled chameleon: undercover cop in vice stings, crime-scene commander, patient confidante of killers. A master interrogator, she invokes her personal experience – and deepest griefs — as a tool to elicit confessions. When a young woman’s body is found at a trash-sorting plant, Trapp learns the murder may be linked to the disappearance of three other women in nearby Santa Ana. Trapp embarks on a dark journey that brings her face to face with a man who takes “a little piece of her soul.”
Listen now at Wondery.fm/PretendDT

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      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2019 04:30:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Santa Claus Man</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:summary>A con artist save Christmas
Brian Earl with the Christmas Past podcast shares a Christmas story you’ve probably never heard before. In the early 1900s, children’s letters to Santa Claus never made it to the North Pole. They landed in the dead letter office and were eventually destroyed.
But along came John Gluck, a hustler who took these letters to Santa and turned it into an opportunity to get rich and famous.
It’s the strange and true story of government agents, spies, an art thief, U.S. presidents, and gun-toting boy scouts.
Check out “My Dear Santa” with Brian Earl from the Christmas Past podcast

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Credits
Today’s show was written and edited by Javier Leiva.
Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with TheChicken.net.
Additional music by Podington Bear.

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Support for this episode is brought to you by Detective Trapp
Anaheim investigator Julissa Trapp is not like other detectives. She’s the only woman on the homicide squad, and a skilled chameleon: undercover cop in vice stings, crime-scene commander, patient confidante of killers. A master interrogator, she invokes her personal experience – and deepest griefs — as a tool to elicit confessions. When a young woman’s body is found at a trash-sorting plant, Trapp learns the murder may be linked to the disappearance of three other women in nearby Santa Ana. Trapp embarks on a dark journey that brings her face to face with a man who takes “a little piece of her soul.”
Listen now at Wondery.fm/PretendDT

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If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at info@pretendradio.org.

For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.

To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>A con artist save Christmas</p><p>Brian Earl with the Christmas Past podcast shares a Christmas story you’ve probably never heard before. In the early 1900s, children’s letters to Santa Claus never made it to the North Pole. They landed in the dead letter office and were eventually destroyed.</p><p>But along came John Gluck, a hustler who took these letters to Santa and turned it into an opportunity to get rich and famous.</p><p>It’s the strange and true story of government agents, spies, an art thief, U.S. presidents, and gun-toting boy scouts.</p><p>Check out “My Dear Santa” with Brian Earl from the Christmas Past podcast</p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><p>Credits</p><p>Today’s show was written and edited by <a href="http://pretendradio.org/about/">Javier Leiva</a>.</p><p>Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with <a href="http://thechicken.net/">TheChicken.net</a>.</p><p>Additional music by Podington Bear.</p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><p>Support for this episode is brought to you by Detective Trapp</p><p>Anaheim investigator Julissa Trapp is not like other detectives. She’s the only woman on the homicide squad, and a skilled chameleon: undercover cop in vice stings, crime-scene commander, patient confidante of killers. A master interrogator, she invokes her personal experience – and deepest griefs — as a tool to elicit confessions. When a young woman’s body is found at a trash-sorting plant, Trapp learns the murder may be linked to the disappearance of three other women in nearby Santa Ana. Trapp embarks on a dark journey that brings her face to face with a man who takes “a little piece of her soul.”</p><p><strong>Listen now at Wondery.fm/PretendDT</strong></p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S508: The Prank Call part 4 </title>
      <link>http://pretendradio.org/s508-the-prank-call-part-4-pranknet/</link>
      <description>PrankNet is a network of online terrorists who performed crank calls which caused thousands of dollars worth in damages.

These cruel prank phone calls created anxiety and fear for anyone who picked up the phone. PrankNet victims destroyed hotel rooms, set off fire alarms, and flooded rooms by damaging the sprinkler system. 
In part 3, you heard actual Pranknet prank calls. In part 4, you’ll hear from a former prank caller who says she was one of the architects behind Pranknet’s most despicable hoax. It involved two female KFC employees in Manchester, New Hampshire. The two employees were convinced to strip naked in the freezing cold and urinate on each other.
Hear how Jeri Batsford says she helped Pranknet orchestrate some of their most twisted pranks.

Credits
Today’s show was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Molly Brock.
Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with TheChicken.net.
Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear.

Support for this episode is brought to you by Detective Trapp
Anaheim investigator Julissa Trapp is not like other detectives. She’s the only woman on the homicide squad, and a skilled chameleon: undercover cop in vice stings, crime-scene commander, patient confidante of killers. A master interrogator, she invokes her personal experience – and deepest griefs — as a tool to elicit confessions. When a young woman’s body is found at a trash-sorting plant, Trapp learns the murder may be linked to the disappearance of three other women in nearby Santa Ana. Trapp embarks on a dark journey that brings her face to face with a man who takes “a little piece of her soul.”
Listen now at Wondery.fm/PretendDT

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References
http://www.onpointnews.com/docs/hoax.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysSgG5V-R3U
https://www.wmur.com/news/18803151/detail.html

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If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at info@pretendradio.org.

For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.

To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Dec 2019 03:51:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Prank Call part 4 </itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>PrankNet is a network of online terrorists who performed crank calls which caused thousands of dollars worth in damages.

These cruel prank phone calls created anxiety and fear for anyone who picked up the phone. PrankNet victims destroyed hotel rooms, set off fire alarms, and flooded rooms by damaging the sprinkler system. 
In part 3, you heard actual Pranknet prank calls. In part 4, you’ll hear from a former prank caller who says she was one of the architects behind Pranknet’s most despicable hoax. It involved two female KFC employees in Manchester, New Hampshire. The two employees were convinced to strip naked in the freezing cold and urinate on each other.
Hear how Jeri Batsford says she helped Pranknet orchestrate some of their most twisted pranks.

Credits
Today’s show was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Molly Brock.
Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with TheChicken.net.
Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear.

Support for this episode is brought to you by Detective Trapp
Anaheim investigator Julissa Trapp is not like other detectives. She’s the only woman on the homicide squad, and a skilled chameleon: undercover cop in vice stings, crime-scene commander, patient confidante of killers. A master interrogator, she invokes her personal experience – and deepest griefs — as a tool to elicit confessions. When a young woman’s body is found at a trash-sorting plant, Trapp learns the murder may be linked to the disappearance of three other women in nearby Santa Ana. Trapp embarks on a dark journey that brings her face to face with a man who takes “a little piece of her soul.”
Listen now at Wondery.fm/PretendDT

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References
http://www.onpointnews.com/docs/hoax.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysSgG5V-R3U
https://www.wmur.com/news/18803151/detail.html

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Story idea? 
If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at info@pretendradio.org.

For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.

To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>PrankNet is a network of online terrorists who performed crank calls which caused thousands of dollars worth in damages.</p><p><br></p><p>These cruel prank phone calls created anxiety and fear for anyone who picked up the phone. PrankNet victims destroyed hotel rooms, set off fire alarms, and flooded rooms by damaging the sprinkler system. </p><p><a href="http://pretendradio.org/s507-prank-call-part-3-pranknet/">In part 3</a>, you heard actual Pranknet prank calls. In part 4, you’ll hear from a former prank caller who says she was one of the architects behind Pranknet’s most despicable hoax. It involved two female KFC employees in Manchester, New Hampshire. The two employees were convinced to strip naked in the freezing cold and urinate on each other.</p><p>Hear how Jeri Batsford says she helped Pranknet orchestrate some of their most twisted pranks.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Credits</strong></p><p>Today’s show was written by <a href="http://pretendradio.org/about/">Javier Leiva</a> and edited by Molly Brock.</p><p>Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with <a href="http://thechicken.net/">TheChicken.net</a>.</p><p>Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Support for this episode is brought to you by Detective Trapp</strong></p><p>Anaheim investigator Julissa Trapp is not like other detectives. She’s the only woman on the homicide squad, and a skilled chameleon: undercover cop in vice stings, crime-scene commander, patient confidante of killers. A master interrogator, she invokes her personal experience – and deepest griefs — as a tool to elicit confessions. When a young woman’s body is found at a trash-sorting plant, Trapp learns the murder may be linked to the disappearance of three other women in nearby Santa Ana. Trapp embarks on a dark journey that brings her face to face with a man who takes “a little piece of her soul.”</p><p><strong>Listen now at Wondery.fm/PretendDT</strong></p><p><br></p><p>------</p><p><br></p><p><strong>References</strong></p><p><a href="http://www.onpointnews.com/docs/hoax.pdf">http://www.onpointnews.com/docs/hoax.pdf</a></p><p>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysSgG5V-R3U</p><p>https://www.wmur.com/news/18803151/detail.html</p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S507: The Prank Call part 3</title>
      <link>http://pretendradio.org/s507-prank-call-part-3-pranknet</link>
      <description>When does a prank call go too far? When it leads to sexual abuse and thousands of dollars worth of destruction. 

PrankNet
The punks at Pranknet are believed to be responsible for tens of thousands of dollars worth in damages. They often called restaurants making employees set off sprinklers systems and fire alarms. Sometimes they would even call hotel guests directly and convince them to shatter hotel windows.

An ESPN reporter falls for a Pranknet hoax
Nobody is safe from PrankNet's mayhem. Even Elizabeth Moreau, an ESPN reporter, was persuaded to swing a toilet seat across her Hilton Garden Inn window in the middle of the night. She thought there was a gas leak in the building. All of these calls were recorded and posted on Youtube. You can hear the desperation in her voice during the call. 

Who is behind PrankNet?
The mastermind behind PrankNet is allegedly a Canadian man who goes by the name of Dex. Dex, who’s real name is Tariq Malik, is clearly proud of his work. However, when exposed by an internet blog, he vanished without a trace. 

A prank caller confesses
I wanted to learn more about PrankNet and how they operate. The question is, could I get one of them to talk with me? Fortunately, Jeri Batsford, a former PrankNet member, deflected from the group. 
Listen to part 3 of The Prank Call on Apple Podcast, Spotify, Stitcher, or Google Play.

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Credits
Today’s show was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Logan Castrodale.
Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with TheChicken.net.
Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear.

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Support for this episode is brought to you by Detective Trapp
Anaheim investigator Julissa Trapp is not like other detectives. She’s the only woman on the homicide squad, and a skilled chameleon: undercover cop in vice stings, crime-scene commander, patient confidante of killers. A master interrogator, she invokes her personal experience – and deepest griefs -- as a tool to elicit confessions. When a young woman’s body is found at a trash-sorting plant, Trapp learns the murder may be linked to the disappearance of three other women in nearby Santa Ana. Trapp embarks on a dark journey that brings her face to face with a man who takes “a little piece of her soul.”
Listen now at Wondery.fm/PretendDT

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References
http://www.onpointnews.com/docs/hoax.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysSgG5V-R3U
https://www.wmur.com/news/18803151/detail.html

-------
Story idea? 
If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at info@pretendradio.org.

For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.

To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Nov 2019 04:29:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Prank Call part 3</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>When does a prank call go too far? When it leads to sexual abuse and thousands of dollars worth of destruction. 

PrankNet
The punks at Pranknet are believed to be responsible for tens of thousands of dollars worth in damages. They often called restaurants making employees set off sprinklers systems and fire alarms. Sometimes they would even call hotel guests directly and convince them to shatter hotel windows.

An ESPN reporter falls for a Pranknet hoax
Nobody is safe from PrankNet's mayhem. Even Elizabeth Moreau, an ESPN reporter, was persuaded to swing a toilet seat across her Hilton Garden Inn window in the middle of the night. She thought there was a gas leak in the building. All of these calls were recorded and posted on Youtube. You can hear the desperation in her voice during the call. 

Who is behind PrankNet?
The mastermind behind PrankNet is allegedly a Canadian man who goes by the name of Dex. Dex, who’s real name is Tariq Malik, is clearly proud of his work. However, when exposed by an internet blog, he vanished without a trace. 

A prank caller confesses
I wanted to learn more about PrankNet and how they operate. The question is, could I get one of them to talk with me? Fortunately, Jeri Batsford, a former PrankNet member, deflected from the group. 
Listen to part 3 of The Prank Call on Apple Podcast, Spotify, Stitcher, or Google Play.

-----
Credits
Today’s show was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Logan Castrodale.
Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with TheChicken.net.
Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear.

-----
Support for this episode is brought to you by Detective Trapp
Anaheim investigator Julissa Trapp is not like other detectives. She’s the only woman on the homicide squad, and a skilled chameleon: undercover cop in vice stings, crime-scene commander, patient confidante of killers. A master interrogator, she invokes her personal experience – and deepest griefs -- as a tool to elicit confessions. When a young woman’s body is found at a trash-sorting plant, Trapp learns the murder may be linked to the disappearance of three other women in nearby Santa Ana. Trapp embarks on a dark journey that brings her face to face with a man who takes “a little piece of her soul.”
Listen now at Wondery.fm/PretendDT

---- 
References
http://www.onpointnews.com/docs/hoax.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysSgG5V-R3U
https://www.wmur.com/news/18803151/detail.html

-------
Story idea? 
If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at info@pretendradio.org.

For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.

To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate
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        <![CDATA[<h1>When does a prank call go too far? When it leads to sexual abuse and thousands of dollars worth of destruction. </h1><p><br></p><p>PrankNet</p><p>The punks at Pranknet are believed to be responsible for tens of thousands of dollars worth in damages. They often called restaurants making employees set off sprinklers systems and fire alarms. Sometimes they would even call hotel guests directly and convince them to shatter hotel windows.</p><p><br></p><p>An ESPN reporter falls for a Pranknet hoax</p><p>Nobody is safe from PrankNet's mayhem. Even Elizabeth Moreau, an ESPN reporter, was persuaded to swing a toilet seat across her Hilton Garden Inn window in the middle of the night. She thought there was a gas leak in the building. All of these calls were recorded and posted on Youtube. You can hear the desperation in her voice <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhAOuo-6ivI&amp;t=108s">during the call</a>. </p><p><br></p><p>Who is behind PrankNet?</p><p>The mastermind behind PrankNet is allegedly a Canadian man who goes by the name of Dex. Dex, who’s real name is Tariq Malik, is clearly proud of his work. However, when exposed by <a href="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/internet/telephone-terrorist">an internet blog</a>, he vanished without a trace. </p><p><br></p><p>A prank caller confesses</p><p>I wanted to learn more about PrankNet and how they operate. The question is, could I get one of them to talk with me? Fortunately, Jeri Batsford, a former PrankNet member, deflected from the group. </p><p><strong>Listen to part 3 of The Prank Call on </strong><a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend-radio/id1245307962?mt=2"><strong>Apple Podcast</strong></a><strong>, </strong><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2vaCjR7UvlN9aTIzW6kNCo?si=nlQxtYtoRLmTJB9xMofT_Q"><strong>Spotify</strong></a><strong>, </strong><a href="https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/pretend-radio-2/pretend-radio-3"><strong>Stitcher</strong></a><strong>, or </strong><a href="https://playmusic.app.goo.gl/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&amp;isi=691797987&amp;ius=googleplaymusic&amp;apn=com.google.android.music&amp;link=https://play.google.com/music/m/Ipl4ftte2uk7hmtzzhgri26zivi?t%3DPretend_Radio%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16"><strong>Google Play</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><br></p><p>-----</p><p>Credits</p><p>Today’s show was written by <a href="http://pretendradio.org/about/">Javier Leiva</a> and edited by Logan Castrodale.</p><p>Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with <a href="http://thechicken.net/">TheChicken.net</a>.</p><p>Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear.</p><p><br></p><p>-----</p><p>Support for this episode is brought to you by Detective Trapp</p><p>Anaheim investigator Julissa Trapp is not like other detectives. She’s the only woman on the homicide squad, and a skilled chameleon: undercover cop in vice stings, crime-scene commander, patient confidante of killers. A master interrogator, she invokes her personal experience – and deepest griefs -- as a tool to elicit confessions. When a young woman’s body is found at a trash-sorting plant, Trapp learns the murder may be linked to the disappearance of three other women in nearby Santa Ana. Trapp embarks on a dark journey that brings her face to face with a man who takes “a little piece of her soul.”</p><p><strong>Listen now at Wondery.fm/PretendDT</strong></p><p><br></p><p><strong>---- </strong></p><p><strong>References</strong></p><p><a href="http://www.onpointnews.com/docs/hoax.pdf">http://www.onpointnews.com/docs/hoax.pdf</a></p><p>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysSgG5V-R3U</p><p>https://www.wmur.com/news/18803151/detail.html</p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S506: The Prank Call part 2</title>
      <description>A prank call leads to a 2-hour strip-search at a fast-food restaurant
A prank caller posing as a cop calls a manager at a Hardee's Restaurant in Rapid City, South Dakota. He tells the store manager that one of his employees stole money from a customer. Instead of calling the real police, the manager decides to strip search the employee. This prank call went on for more than 2 hours.
I spoke with the manager of that restaurant to find out why he obeyed the prank caller's every demand.
Searching for David Stewart—the prank call suspect
Victor Flaherty is now the Cheif of Police in West Bridgewater police department in Massachusetts at the time in 2004, he was a detective sergeant searching for the notorious fast-food prank caller. Many police stations across the United States tried to locate the perpetrator—and all of them failed. It turns out that tracing the calls back to the source proved to be nearly impossible. 
Listen to the lengthVictor Flaherty went through to find the suspect named David Stewart.
If you want to start from the beginning, listen to part 1 here.
 
Credits
Today’s show was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Molly Brock.
Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with TheChicken.net.
Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear.
 
References:
Rapid City Journal
Courier Journal
MSNBC

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      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Nov 2019 09:17:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Prank Call part 2</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>A prank call leads to a 2-hour strip-search at a fast-food restaurant
A prank caller posing as a cop calls a manager at a Hardee's Restaurant in Rapid City, South Dakota. He tells the store manager that one of his employees stole money from a customer. Instead of calling the real police, the manager decides to strip search the employee. This prank call went on for more than 2 hours.
I spoke with the manager of that restaurant to find out why he obeyed the prank caller's every demand.
Searching for David Stewart—the prank call suspect
Victor Flaherty is now the Cheif of Police in West Bridgewater police department in Massachusetts at the time in 2004, he was a detective sergeant searching for the notorious fast-food prank caller. Many police stations across the United States tried to locate the perpetrator—and all of them failed. It turns out that tracing the calls back to the source proved to be nearly impossible. 
Listen to the lengthVictor Flaherty went through to find the suspect named David Stewart.
If you want to start from the beginning, listen to part 1 here.
 
Credits
Today’s show was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Molly Brock.
Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with TheChicken.net.
Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear.
 
References:
Rapid City Journal
Courier Journal
MSNBC

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        <![CDATA[<p>A prank call leads to a 2-hour strip-search at a fast-food restaurant</p><p>A prank caller posing as a cop calls a manager at a Hardee's Restaurant in Rapid City, South Dakota. He tells the store manager that one of his employees stole money from a customer. Instead of calling the real police, the manager decides to strip search the employee. This prank call went on for more than 2 hours.</p><p>I spoke with the manager of that restaurant to find out why he obeyed the prank caller's every demand.</p><p>Searching for David Stewart—the prank call suspect</p><p>Victor Flaherty is now the Cheif of Police in West Bridgewater police department in Massachusetts at the time in 2004, he was a detective sergeant searching for the notorious fast-food prank caller. Many police stations across the United States tried to locate the perpetrator—and all of them failed. It turns out that tracing the calls back to the source proved to be nearly impossible. </p><p>Listen to the lengthVictor Flaherty went through to find the suspect named David Stewart.</p><p>If you want to start from the beginning, <a href="http://pretendradio.org/prank-part-1/">listen to part 1 here</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Credits</p><p>Today’s show was written by <a href="http://pretendradio.org/about/">Javier Leiva</a> and edited by Molly Brock.</p><p>Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with <a href="http://thechicken.net/">TheChicken.net</a>.</p><p>Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear.</p><p> </p><p><strong>References:</strong></p><p><a href="https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local/man-on-trial-for-kidnapping-rape/article_faeff508-246c-54db-8a66-15d121c5112d.html">Rapid City Journal</a></p><p><a href="https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2005/10/09/a-hoax-most-cruel-caller-coaxed-mcdonalds-managers-/28936597/">Courier Journal</a></p><p><a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20090325234639/http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15504125/">MSNBC</a></p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S505: The Prank Call part 1</title>
      <link>http://pretendradio.org/prank-part-1/</link>
      <description>Disclaimer: We will be talking about sexual abuse and other disturbing topics. Listener discretion is advised.
Strip-search hoax
A prank caller pretending to be a police officer instructed fast-food managers to strip-search female employees forcing them to jog naked, do jumping jacks and perform other humiliating acts. He made more than 70 of these calls in the United States over a 12-year period.

Why do we obey?
Some of the managers were charged with rape and kidnapping as a result of these pranks. How could they fall for such a prank?
The truth is, humans are programmed to respect authority. But why do we obey? In this episode, you'll hear real audio from Stanley Milgram's experiments on obedience and authority. The results are shocking.

Bonus episode
Donna Summers, the manager from the McDonalds restaurant in Mount Washington, sued McDonald's for failing to warn her about the previous hoaxes. She asked for $50 million. She was awarded $1 million in punitive damages and $100,000 in compensatory damages.
Listen to my conversation with her attorney Wendy Wagner.
The Pranks part 1 BONUS (McDonalds Lawsuit)
https://www.patreon.com/posts/pranks-part-1-30952858

Links and sources
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2005/10/09/a-hoax-most-cruel-caller-coaxed-mcdonalds-managers-/28936597/
https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local/man-on-trial-for-kidnapping-rape/article_faeff508-246c-54db-8a66-15d121c5112d.html
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2005/10/09/a-hoax-most-cruel-caller-coaxed-mcdonalds-managers-/28936597/https://web.archive.org/web/20090325234639/http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15504125/

Credits
Today’s show was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Molly Brock. Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with TheChicken.net. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear.
 
Support for this episode is brought to you by HempFusion
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      <pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2019 11:10:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Prank Call part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Disclaimer: We will be talking about sexual abuse and other disturbing topics. Listener discretion is advised.
Strip-search hoax
A prank caller pretending to be a police officer instructed fast-food managers to strip-search female employees forcing them to jog naked, do jumping jacks and perform other humiliating acts. He made more than 70 of these calls in the United States over a 12-year period.

Why do we obey?
Some of the managers were charged with rape and kidnapping as a result of these pranks. How could they fall for such a prank?
The truth is, humans are programmed to respect authority. But why do we obey? In this episode, you'll hear real audio from Stanley Milgram's experiments on obedience and authority. The results are shocking.

Bonus episode
Donna Summers, the manager from the McDonalds restaurant in Mount Washington, sued McDonald's for failing to warn her about the previous hoaxes. She asked for $50 million. She was awarded $1 million in punitive damages and $100,000 in compensatory damages.
Listen to my conversation with her attorney Wendy Wagner.
The Pranks part 1 BONUS (McDonalds Lawsuit)
https://www.patreon.com/posts/pranks-part-1-30952858

Links and sources
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2005/10/09/a-hoax-most-cruel-caller-coaxed-mcdonalds-managers-/28936597/
https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local/man-on-trial-for-kidnapping-rape/article_faeff508-246c-54db-8a66-15d121c5112d.html
https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2005/10/09/a-hoax-most-cruel-caller-coaxed-mcdonalds-managers-/28936597/https://web.archive.org/web/20090325234639/http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15504125/

Credits
Today’s show was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Molly Brock. Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with TheChicken.net. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear.
 
Support for this episode is brought to you by HempFusion
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        <![CDATA[<p><em>Disclaimer: We will be talking about sexual abuse and other disturbing topics. Listener discretion is advised.</em></p><h1>Strip-search hoax</h1><p>A prank caller pretending to be a police officer instructed fast-food managers to strip-search female employees forcing them to jog naked, do jumping jacks and perform other humiliating acts. He made more than 70 of these calls in the United States over a 12-year period.</p><h1><br></h1><h1>Why do we obey?</h1><p>Some of the managers were charged with rape and kidnapping as a result of these pranks. How could they fall for such a prank?</p><p>The truth is, humans are programmed to respect authority. But why do we obey? In this episode, you'll hear real audio from <a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=stanley+milgram%27s+obedience+experiments&amp;oq=Stanley+Milgram&amp;aqs=chrome.1.0l6.2040j0j7&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8">Stanley Milgram's experiments on obedience and authority</a>. The results are shocking.</p><h1><br></h1><h1>Bonus episode</h1><p>Donna Summers, the manager from the McDonalds restaurant in Mount Washington, sued McDonald's for failing to warn her about the previous hoaxes. She asked for $50 million. She was awarded $1 million in punitive damages and $100,000 in compensatory damages.</p><p>Listen to my conversation with her attorney Wendy Wagner.</p><p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/pranks-part-1-30952858">The Pranks part 1 BONUS (McDonalds Lawsuit)</a></p><p>https://www.patreon.com/posts/pranks-part-1-30952858</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Links and sources</strong></p><p>https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2005/10/09/a-hoax-most-cruel-caller-coaxed-mcdonalds-managers-/28936597/</p><p>https://rapidcityjournal.com/news/local/man-on-trial-for-kidnapping-rape/article_faeff508-246c-54db-8a66-15d121c5112d.html</p><p>https://www.courier-journal.com/story/news/local/2005/10/09/a-hoax-most-cruel-caller-coaxed-mcdonalds-managers-/28936597/https://web.archive.org/web/20090325234639/http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15504125/</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Credits</strong></p><p>Today’s show was written by <a href="http://pretendradio.org/about/">Javier Leiva</a> and edited by Molly Brock. Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with <a href="http://thechicken.net/">TheChicken.net</a>. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear.</p><p> </p><p>Support for this episode is brought to you by HempFusion</p><p>Use promo code PRETEND for 20% off of your first order and free shipping at hempfusion.com. Get HempFusion shipped anywhere in the US.</p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S504: The Cousins part 2</title>
      <description>The most bizarre cyberstalking story you’ll ever hear
Susan Fensten is a victim of cyberstalking. Distant family members and ex-cons bombarded her with harassing emails. She felt cornered and there was nothing she could do about it.

Rapists and Stalkers and cannibals, oh my.
Two ex-cons convicted of raping a woman were sending her threatening emails. They even invited her to the Fall Slaughter an event hosted by a cannibalistic cult from upstate New York. The plan was to eat her alive.

It was all a hoax
None of this was real. All these threatening messages were fake. And worst of all, the people Susan thought she was interacting with weren’t real either. Today’s story focuses on the search for this cyberstalker. Who was targeting Susan? And why did they want her to suffer?

Subscribe to PRETEND on your favorite podcast app:  Apple Podcast, Spotify, Stitcher, or Google Play.


Check out Susan Fensten’s Memoir based on this story titled, “You have a very soft voice, Susan.”


Today’s show was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Molly Brock. Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with TheChicken.net. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear. 


Bonus episodes:

Susan Fensten shares a story that didn't make it in her book.

The full interview with FBI Special Agent Brandon Waller


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      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Oct 2019 03:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Cousins part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The most bizarre cyberstalking story you’ll ever hear
Susan Fensten is a victim of cyberstalking. Distant family members and ex-cons bombarded her with harassing emails. She felt cornered and there was nothing she could do about it.

Rapists and Stalkers and cannibals, oh my.
Two ex-cons convicted of raping a woman were sending her threatening emails. They even invited her to the Fall Slaughter an event hosted by a cannibalistic cult from upstate New York. The plan was to eat her alive.

It was all a hoax
None of this was real. All these threatening messages were fake. And worst of all, the people Susan thought she was interacting with weren’t real either. Today’s story focuses on the search for this cyberstalker. Who was targeting Susan? And why did they want her to suffer?

Subscribe to PRETEND on your favorite podcast app:  Apple Podcast, Spotify, Stitcher, or Google Play.


Check out Susan Fensten’s Memoir based on this story titled, “You have a very soft voice, Susan.”


Today’s show was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Molly Brock. Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with TheChicken.net. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear. 


Bonus episodes:

Susan Fensten shares a story that didn't make it in her book.

The full interview with FBI Special Agent Brandon Waller


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Use promo code PRETEND for 20% off of your first order and free shipping at hempfusion.com. Get HempFusion shipped anywhere in the US. 

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        <![CDATA[<h1>The most bizarre cyberstalking story you’ll ever hear</h1><p>Susan Fensten is a victim of cyberstalking. Distant family members and ex-cons bombarded her with harassing emails. She felt cornered and there was nothing she could do about it.</p><p><br></p><h1><strong>Rapists and Stalkers and cannibals, oh my.</strong></h1><p>Two ex-cons convicted of raping a woman were sending her threatening emails. They even invited her to the Fall Slaughter an event hosted by a cannibalistic cult from upstate New York. The plan was to eat her alive.</p><p><br></p><h1><strong>It was all a hoax</strong></h1><p>None of this was real. All these threatening messages were fake. And worst of all, the people Susan thought she was interacting with weren’t real either. Today’s story focuses on the search for this cyberstalker. Who was targeting Susan? And why did they want her to suffer?</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Subscribe to PRETEND on your favorite podcast app: </strong><a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend-radio/id1245307962?mt=2"><strong> Apple Podcast</strong></a><strong>, </strong><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2vaCjR7UvlN9aTIzW6kNCo?si=nlQxtYtoRLmTJB9xMofT_Q"><strong>Spotify</strong></a><strong>, </strong><a href="https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/pretend-radio-2/pretend-radio-3"><strong>Stitcher</strong></a><strong>, or </strong><a href="https://playmusic.app.goo.gl/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&amp;isi=691797987&amp;ius=googleplaymusic&amp;apn=com.google.android.music&amp;link=https://play.google.com/music/m/Ipl4ftte2uk7hmtzzhgri26zivi?t%3DPretend_Radio%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16"><strong>Google Play</strong></a><strong>.</strong></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Check out Susan Fensten’s Memoir based on this story titled, “<a href="https://amzn.to/3huIDET">You have a very soft voice, Susan</a>.”</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Today’s show was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Molly Brock. Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with <a href="http://thechicken.net/">TheChicken.net</a>. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear. </p><p><br></p><p><br></p><h1>Bonus episodes:</h1><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/30350941">Susan Fensten shares a story that didn't make it in her book.</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/30351393">The full interview with FBI Special Agent Brandon Waller</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Support for this episode is brought to you by HempFusion</strong></p><p><br></p><p>Use promo code PRETEND for 20% off of your first order and free shipping at hempfusion.com. Get HempFusion shipped anywhere in the US. </p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S503: The Cousins part 1</title>
      <description>This is not your typical internet stalker story. Susan Fensten's tale is one of torture, rape, bondage, cannibalism, and murder. It’s just plain cruel. 


It all started when Susan began looking for distant family members on a genealogy site. While trying to fill the gaps with her family tree, she found herself tangled in a web of lies.



Her newfound cousin, Leonard Nachman, bombarded her with pornographic emails and a picture of himself masturbating while wearing nylon bodysuits. It was disturbing.



But I don't want to give away too much of the story. After you’re done listening to part one, get an early preview of part two on Patreon.



Also, check out Susan Fensten’s Memoir based on this story titled, “You have a very soft voice, Susan.”



Subscribe to PRETEND on your favorite podcast app: Apple Podcast, Spotify, Stitcher, or Google Play.



Today’s show was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Logan Castrodale. Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with TheChicken.net. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions. 

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      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Sep 2019 03:46:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Cousins part 1</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:summary>This is not your typical internet stalker story. Susan Fensten's tale is one of torture, rape, bondage, cannibalism, and murder. It’s just plain cruel. 


It all started when Susan began looking for distant family members on a genealogy site. While trying to fill the gaps with her family tree, she found herself tangled in a web of lies.



Her newfound cousin, Leonard Nachman, bombarded her with pornographic emails and a picture of himself masturbating while wearing nylon bodysuits. It was disturbing.



But I don't want to give away too much of the story. After you’re done listening to part one, get an early preview of part two on Patreon.



Also, check out Susan Fensten’s Memoir based on this story titled, “You have a very soft voice, Susan.”



Subscribe to PRETEND on your favorite podcast app: Apple Podcast, Spotify, Stitcher, or Google Play.



Today’s show was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Logan Castrodale. Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with TheChicken.net. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions. 

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        <![CDATA[<h1>This is not your typical internet stalker story. Susan Fensten's tale is one of torture, rape, bondage, cannibalism, and murder. It’s just plain cruel. </h1><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>It all started when Susan began looking for distant family members on a genealogy site. While trying to fill the gaps with her family tree, she found herself tangled in a web of lies.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Her newfound cousin, Leonard Nachman, bombarded her with pornographic emails and a picture of himself masturbating while wearing nylon bodysuits. It was disturbing.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>But I don't want to give away too much of the story. After you’re done listening to part one, get an early preview of <a href="https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio/posts">part two on Patreon</a>.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Also, check out Susan Fensten’s Memoir based on this story titled, “<a href="https://amzn.to/3huIDET">You have a very soft voice, Susan</a>.”</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe to PRETEND on your favorite podcast app: <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend-radio/id1245307962?mt=2">Apple Podcast</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2vaCjR7UvlN9aTIzW6kNCo?si=nlQxtYtoRLmTJB9xMofT_Q">Spotify</a>, <a href="https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/pretend-radio-2/pretend-radio-3">Stitcher</a>, or <a href="https://playmusic.app.goo.gl/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&amp;isi=691797987&amp;ius=googleplaymusic&amp;apn=com.google.android.music&amp;link=https://play.google.com/music/m/Ipl4ftte2uk7hmtzzhgri26zivi?t%3DPretend_Radio%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16">Google Play</a>.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Today’s show was written by Javier Leiva and edited by Logan Castrodale. Our theme music was written and composed by Joe Basile with <a href="http://thechicken.net/">TheChicken.net</a>. Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions. </p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S502: The Sugar Daddy part 2 </title>
      <description>Alan Canty spent most of his lunch breaks rendezvousing with an 18-year-old sex worker named Dawn Spens in the seedy streets of downtown Detroit. His wife Jan Canty had no idea he was living a double-life.

A real-life Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde saga

Alan Canty was a prominent psychologist but to Dawn, and her pimp John “Lucky” Fry, he was known as Dr. Alan Miller. He developed an alter ego in order to protect his two worlds from colliding. However, secrets can’t last forever. One day, Alan Canty’s love affair came to a tragic end.
 

Links and sources:
If you enjoyed the story, check out Lowell  Lowell Cauffiel’s book titled Masquerade 

To read Jan Canty’s memoir visit Amazon or www.jancantyphd.com


Credits
Today’s episode was edited by Bear Beat Productions and additional editing by Molly Brock

Our Theme is Music by Joe Basie with theChicken.net

And additional music by Blue Dot Sessions

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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2019 03:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Sugar Daddy part 2 </itunes:title>
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      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Alan Canty spent most of his lunch breaks rendezvousing with an 18-year-old sex worker named Dawn Spens in the seedy streets of downtown Detroit. His wife Jan Canty had no idea he was living a double-life.

A real-life Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde saga

Alan Canty was a prominent psychologist but to Dawn, and her pimp John “Lucky” Fry, he was known as Dr. Alan Miller. He developed an alter ego in order to protect his two worlds from colliding. However, secrets can’t last forever. One day, Alan Canty’s love affair came to a tragic end.
 

Links and sources:
If you enjoyed the story, check out Lowell  Lowell Cauffiel’s book titled Masquerade 

To read Jan Canty’s memoir visit Amazon or www.jancantyphd.com


Credits
Today’s episode was edited by Bear Beat Productions and additional editing by Molly Brock

Our Theme is Music by Joe Basie with theChicken.net

And additional music by Blue Dot Sessions

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        <![CDATA[<h1>Alan Canty spent most of his lunch breaks rendezvousing with an 18-year-old sex worker named Dawn Spens in the seedy streets of downtown Detroit. His wife Jan Canty had no idea he was living a double-life.</h1><p><br></p><h1><strong>A real-life Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde saga</strong></h1><p><br></p><p>Alan Canty was a prominent psychologist but to Dawn, and her pimp John “Lucky” Fry, he was known as Dr. Alan Miller. He developed an alter ego in order to protect his two worlds from colliding. However, secrets can’t last forever. One day, Alan Canty’s love affair came to a tragic end.</p><p><em> </em></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Links and sources:</strong></p><p>If you enjoyed the story, check out <a href="https://amzn.to/3nU3VON"><em>Lowell </em> Lowell Cauffiel<em>’s book titled Masquerade</em><strong><em> </em></strong></a></p><p><br></p><p>To read Jan Canty’s memoir visit <a href="https://amzn.to/34N2Hgs">Amazon</a> or <a href="http://www.jancantyphd.com/"><strong>www.jancantyphd.com</strong></a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Credits</strong></p><p>Today’s episode was edited by Bear Beat Productions and additional editing by Molly Brock</p><p><br></p><p>Our Theme is Music by Joe Basie with theChicken.net</p><p><br></p><p>And additional music by Blue Dot Sessions</p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S501: The Sugar Daddy part 1</title>
      <description>1980s Prostitution in the Streets of Detroit
Back in the 1980s, Mark Bando was a Detroit police officer working the streets of Detroit. His assignment was to keep tabs on women forced into prostitution, their pimps, and the sugar daddies who kept them in business. Dawn Spens was one of those women. We follow their interlaced story.
Dawn’s sugar daddy was a prominent psychologist named Alan Canty. He would meet her for sex during his lunch break. This relationship went on for two years. Meanwhile, his wife Jan Canty didn’t know what was really going on. This rendezvous didn’t last forever. Hear how Alan Canty’s double life was exposed.
 

Meet the characters
The Sugar Daddy- Alan Canty
The Sex Worker- Dawn Spens
The Pimp- John “Lucky”

Links and sources:
If you enjoyed the story, check out Lowell  Lowell Cauffiel’s book titled Masquerade 

To read Jan Canty’s memoir visit Amazon or www.jancantyphd.com

This is part one of a two-part series. Subscribe to Patreon to listen to part two right now 


Credits
This episode was written and produced by Javier Leiva
Edited by Molly Brock
Music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear
Theme music by Joe Basile and thechicken.net

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      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2019 02:33:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Sugar Daddy part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>5</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>1980s Prostitution in the Streets of Detroit
Back in the 1980s, Mark Bando was a Detroit police officer working the streets of Detroit. His assignment was to keep tabs on women forced into prostitution, their pimps, and the sugar daddies who kept them in business. Dawn Spens was one of those women. We follow their interlaced story.
Dawn’s sugar daddy was a prominent psychologist named Alan Canty. He would meet her for sex during his lunch break. This relationship went on for two years. Meanwhile, his wife Jan Canty didn’t know what was really going on. This rendezvous didn’t last forever. Hear how Alan Canty’s double life was exposed.
 

Meet the characters
The Sugar Daddy- Alan Canty
The Sex Worker- Dawn Spens
The Pimp- John “Lucky”

Links and sources:
If you enjoyed the story, check out Lowell  Lowell Cauffiel’s book titled Masquerade 

To read Jan Canty’s memoir visit Amazon or www.jancantyphd.com

This is part one of a two-part series. Subscribe to Patreon to listen to part two right now 


Credits
This episode was written and produced by Javier Leiva
Edited by Molly Brock
Music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear
Theme music by Joe Basile and thechicken.net

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To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate



 
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        <![CDATA[<p><br></p><p><strong>1980s Prostitution in the Streets of Detroit</strong></p><p>Back in the 1980s, Mark Bando was a Detroit police officer working the streets of Detroit. His assignment was to keep tabs on women forced into prostitution, their pimps, and the sugar daddies who kept them in business. Dawn Spens was one of those women. We follow their interlaced story.</p><p>Dawn’s sugar daddy was a prominent psychologist named Alan Canty. He would meet her for sex during his lunch break. This relationship went on for two years. Meanwhile, his wife Jan Canty didn’t know what was really going on. This rendezvous didn’t last forever. Hear how Alan Canty’s double life was exposed.</p><p> </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Meet the characters</strong></p><p><strong><em>The Sugar Daddy</em></strong>- Alan Canty</p><p><strong><em>The Sex Worker</em></strong>- Dawn Spens</p><p><strong><em>The Pimp-</em></strong> John “Lucky”</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Links and sources:</strong></p><p>If you enjoyed the story, check out <a href="https://amzn.to/3nU3VON"><em>Lowell </em> Lowell Cauffiel<em>’s book titled Masquerade </em></a></p><p><br></p><p>To read Jan Canty’s memoir visit <a href="https://amzn.to/34N2Hgs">Amazon</a> or <a href="http://www.jancantyphd.com/">www.jancantyphd.com</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>This is part one of a two-part series. </strong><a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/"><strong><em>Subscribe to Patreon to listen to part two right now </em></strong></a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Credits</strong></p><p>This episode was written and produced by <a href="http://pretendradio.org/contact-us/">Javier Leiva</a></p><p>Edited by Molly Brock</p><p>Music by Blue Dot Sessions and Podington Bear</p><p>Theme music by Joe Basile and <a href="http://thechicken.net">thechicken.net</a></p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S411: The Norco Bank Heist part 2</title>
      <description>The Norco Security Pacific Bank heist was just the beginning. 

The thief in the night
George Smith and his friend Chris Harven decided to rob a bank in Norco, California. And just like in the movies, these bank robbers charged into the bank and demanded all the money. Except, it was a Friday afternoon, and the vault was pretty much empty.

In part one of The Norco Bank Heist, we left off as the bank robbers blasted away the Sheriff Deputies arriving at the scene.


Doomsday
Peter Houlahan, author of the book “Norco ‘80” says that “There were over 500 rounds fired—200 of them shot at [Deputy Glyn] Balasky alone. They hit his vehicle 46 times, wounding him badly in the elbow. All three of the responding deputies had their vehicle struck multiple times. There were bullets in citizens cars, in houses, in the storefronts. Everything in that intersection was hit with gunfire. Five civilians had been injured.”

The Riverside County Sheriff's deputies were completely overwhelmed in the firefight. They never really stood a chance.


The pursuit
George Wayne Smith and his buddies managed to flee the scene and are on their way to get the cold cars parked a few miles away. But how did this chaotic chase end 60 miles east in a remote canyon heading towards the Mojave desert?

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Norco ’80

Buy a copy of Norco ’80: The True Story of the Most Spectacular Bank Robbery in American History by Peter Houlahan on Amazon or wherever you get your books.


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      <pubDate>Wed, 31 Jul 2019 01:34:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Norco Bank Heist part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>The Norco Security Pacific Bank heist was just the beginning. 

The thief in the night
George Smith and his friend Chris Harven decided to rob a bank in Norco, California. And just like in the movies, these bank robbers charged into the bank and demanded all the money. Except, it was a Friday afternoon, and the vault was pretty much empty.

In part one of The Norco Bank Heist, we left off as the bank robbers blasted away the Sheriff Deputies arriving at the scene.


Doomsday
Peter Houlahan, author of the book “Norco ‘80” says that “There were over 500 rounds fired—200 of them shot at [Deputy Glyn] Balasky alone. They hit his vehicle 46 times, wounding him badly in the elbow. All three of the responding deputies had their vehicle struck multiple times. There were bullets in citizens cars, in houses, in the storefronts. Everything in that intersection was hit with gunfire. Five civilians had been injured.”

The Riverside County Sheriff's deputies were completely overwhelmed in the firefight. They never really stood a chance.


The pursuit
George Wayne Smith and his buddies managed to flee the scene and are on their way to get the cold cars parked a few miles away. But how did this chaotic chase end 60 miles east in a remote canyon heading towards the Mojave desert?

------
Norco ’80

Buy a copy of Norco ’80: The True Story of the Most Spectacular Bank Robbery in American History by Peter Houlahan on Amazon or wherever you get your books.


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        <![CDATA[<h1>The Norco Security Pacific Bank heist was just the beginning. </h1><p><br></p><h1><strong>The thief in the night</strong></h1><p>George Smith and his friend Chris Harven decided to rob a bank in Norco, California. And just like in the movies, these bank robbers charged into the bank and demanded all the money. Except, it was a Friday afternoon, and the vault was pretty much empty.</p><p><br></p><p>In part one of <a href="http://pretendradio.org/norco-bank-heist-p1/">The Norco Bank Heist</a>, we left off as the bank robbers blasted away the Sheriff Deputies arriving at the scene.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><h1><strong>Doomsday</strong></h1><p>Peter Houlahan, author of the book “<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Norco-80-Spectacular-Robbery-American-ebook/dp/B07GS7J2Z3">Norco ‘80</a>” says that “There were over 500 rounds fired—200 of them shot at [Deputy Glyn] Balasky alone. They hit his vehicle 46 times, wounding him badly in the elbow. All three of the responding deputies had their vehicle struck multiple times. There were bullets in citizens cars, in houses, in the storefronts. Everything in that intersection was hit with gunfire. Five civilians had been injured.”</p><p><br></p><p>The Riverside County Sheriff's deputies were completely overwhelmed in the firefight. They never really stood a chance.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><h1><strong>The pursuit</strong></h1><p>George Wayne Smith and his buddies managed to flee the scene and are on their way to get the cold cars parked a few miles away. But how did this chaotic chase end 60 miles east in a remote canyon heading towards the Mojave desert?</p><p><br></p><p>------</p><h1><strong>Norco ’80</strong></h1><p><br></p><p>Buy a copy of<a href="https://amzn.to/38yXxFW"><strong> Norco ’80: The True Story of the Most Spectacular Bank Robbery in American History</strong></a><strong> </strong>by Peter Houlahan on <a href="https://amzn.to/38yXxFW">Amazon</a> or wherever you get your books.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>------</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Support for this episode is brought to you by BetterHelp.</strong></p><p><br></p><p>Is there is something that interferes with your happiness or is preventing you from achieving your goals? Connect with your professional counselor in a safe and private online environment.</p><p><br></p><p>Sign up today with discount code “PRETEND” to get 10% off your first month.</p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://betterhelp.com/pretend">Betterhelp.com/pretend</a></p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S410: The Norco Bank Heist part 1</title>
      <description>This is the story of the 1980 Norco bank robbery—one of the most violent bank heists in U.S. history. 
Remarkably, only three people died. However, 30 police cars and one helicopter were torn apart by bullets.
In this episode, you’re going to hear from some of the people who were there that day at the Security Pacific Bank.
This wasn’t your typical bank robbery. George Smith, the mastermind behind the heist, believed the rapture was coming.
His gang of bank robbers was armed with military-grade weapons. The police never stood a chance. I mean, it was a downright war zone. Why would George Smith go to such extremes just to rob a bank?
We’re going to spend the next two episodes trying to get inside the mind of George Wayne Smith. Who was he? And what motivated him to orchestrate such an insane bank robbery? And how did they finally catch him, the following day in the canyons, heading to the Mojave Desert?

Buy a copy of Norco '80: The True Story of the Most Spectacular Bank Robbery in American History by Peter Houlahan on Amazon or wherever you get your books.

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      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Jul 2019 06:12:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Norco Bank Heist part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>This is the story of the 1980 Norco bank robbery—one of the most violent bank heists in U.S. history. 
Remarkably, only three people died. However, 30 police cars and one helicopter were torn apart by bullets.
In this episode, you’re going to hear from some of the people who were there that day at the Security Pacific Bank.
This wasn’t your typical bank robbery. George Smith, the mastermind behind the heist, believed the rapture was coming.
His gang of bank robbers was armed with military-grade weapons. The police never stood a chance. I mean, it was a downright war zone. Why would George Smith go to such extremes just to rob a bank?
We’re going to spend the next two episodes trying to get inside the mind of George Wayne Smith. Who was he? And what motivated him to orchestrate such an insane bank robbery? And how did they finally catch him, the following day in the canyons, heading to the Mojave Desert?

Buy a copy of Norco '80: The True Story of the Most Spectacular Bank Robbery in American History by Peter Houlahan on Amazon or wherever you get your books.

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This episode was written and produced by Javier Leiva
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>This is the story of the 1980 Norco bank robbery—one of the most violent bank heists in U.S. history. </strong></p><p>Remarkably, only three people died. However, 30 police cars and one helicopter were torn apart by bullets.</p><p>In this episode, you’re going to hear from some of the people who were there that day at the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_Pacific_Bank">Security Pacific Bank</a>.</p><p>This wasn’t your typical bank robbery. George Smith, the mastermind behind the heist, believed the rapture was coming.</p><p>His gang of bank robbers was armed with military-grade weapons. The police never stood a chance. I mean, it was a downright war zone. Why would George Smith go to such extremes just to rob a bank?</p><p>We’re going to spend the next two episodes trying to get inside the mind of George Wayne Smith. Who was he? And what motivated him to orchestrate such an insane bank robbery? And how did they finally catch him, the following day in the canyons, heading to the Mojave Desert?</p><p><br></p><p>Buy a copy of<strong> </strong><a href="https://amzn.to/38yXxFW"><strong>Norco '80: The True Story of the Most Spectacular Bank Robbery in American History</strong></a><strong> </strong>by Peter Houlahan on <a href="https://amzn.to/38yXxFW">Amazon</a> or wherever you get your books.</p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p><br></p><p>This episode was written and produced by Javier Leiva</p><p>Edited by Molly Clay</p><p>Music by Blue Dot Sessions</p><p>Theme music by Joe Basile and thechicken.net</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Support for this episode is brought to you by BetterHelp.</strong></p><p><strong>BetterHelp</strong></p><p>Is there is something that interferes with your happiness or is preventing you from achieving your goals? Connect with your professional counselor in a safe and private online environment.</p><p>Sign up today with discount code “PRETEND” to get 10% off your first month.</p><p><a href="http://betterhelp.com/pretend">Betterhelp.com/pretend</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S409: The Psychic Vampires</title>
      <description>Susan Gerbic says that psychics are grief vampires—taking advantage of our broken hearts.

She asks, “Why isn’t anybody doing something about this?” Susan Gerbic is just like you and me. She has a normal job working as a baby photographer. But at night, she is a badass vigilante hunting psychics. Susan says, “One of my favorite things to do is try to expose people we call grief vampires. People who claim to speak to the dead.”

Her motivation is not to settle a vendetta. In fact, she says she’s never really been the target of a psychic. Susan simply doesn’t like them and the way they profit off of people’s grief. The US market for psychic services is worth about $2 billion annually according to IBIS World, a market research firm based in Los Angeles California.

On this episode of Pretend, Susan attempts to capture psychics lying on tape. These psychic hunters spent months setting up fake Facebook pages, hoping that a so-called psychic uses the falsified information during a psychic reading. It took a few tries, but she finally got one on tape.


Links:
Silvia Browne gets punked by skeptic Mark Edward

Tim Braun (psychic)

Chip Coffey (psychic)

Thomas John (psychic)

New York Times article:

Inside the Secret Sting Operations to Expose Celebrity Psychics - The ...https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/magazine/psychics-skeptics-facebook.html



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      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2019 05:17:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Psychic Vampires</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/f354a568-9d4e-11e9-8cf0-ab6ec35e8440/image/uploads_2F1562129777226-7r37x4vqw5k-f50e18df63255c3d6152e7486504748e_2F407+Psychic+Vampires.jpg?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Susan Gerbic says that psychics are grief vampires—taking advantage of our broken hearts.

She asks, “Why isn’t anybody doing something about this?” Susan Gerbic is just like you and me. She has a normal job working as a baby photographer. But at night, she is a badass vigilante hunting psychics. Susan says, “One of my favorite things to do is try to expose people we call grief vampires. People who claim to speak to the dead.”

Her motivation is not to settle a vendetta. In fact, she says she’s never really been the target of a psychic. Susan simply doesn’t like them and the way they profit off of people’s grief. The US market for psychic services is worth about $2 billion annually according to IBIS World, a market research firm based in Los Angeles California.

On this episode of Pretend, Susan attempts to capture psychics lying on tape. These psychic hunters spent months setting up fake Facebook pages, hoping that a so-called psychic uses the falsified information during a psychic reading. It took a few tries, but she finally got one on tape.


Links:
Silvia Browne gets punked by skeptic Mark Edward

Tim Braun (psychic)

Chip Coffey (psychic)

Thomas John (psychic)

New York Times article:

Inside the Secret Sting Operations to Expose Celebrity Psychics - The ...https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/magazine/psychics-skeptics-facebook.html



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        <![CDATA[<h1>Susan Gerbic says that psychics are grief vampires—taking advantage of our broken hearts.</h1><p><br></p><p>She asks, “Why isn’t anybody doing something about this?” Susan Gerbic is just like you and me. She has a normal job working as a baby photographer. But at night, she is a badass vigilante hunting psychics. Susan says, “One of my favorite things to do is try to expose people we call grief vampires. People who claim to speak to the dead.”</p><p><br></p><p>Her motivation is not to settle a vendetta. In fact, she says she’s never really been the target of a psychic. Susan simply doesn’t like them and the way they profit off of people’s grief. The US market for psychic services is worth about $2 billion annually according to <a href="https://www.ibisworld.com/industry-trends/specialized-market-research-reports/consumer-goods-services/personal/psychic-services.html">IBIS World</a>, a market research firm based in Los Angeles California.</p><p><br></p><p>On this episode of Pretend, Susan attempts to capture psychics lying on tape. These psychic hunters spent months <a href="https://skepticalinquirer.org/exclusive/undercover_at_a_psychic_group_reading/">setting up fake Facebook pages</a>, hoping that a so-called psychic uses the falsified information during a psychic reading. It took a few tries, but she finally got one on tape.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Links:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BradlE-Uloc">Silvia Browne</a> gets punked by skeptic Mark Edward</p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.timbraunmedium.com/">Tim Braun</a> (psychic)</p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://www.chipcoffey.com/">Chip Coffey</a> (psychic)</p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.mediumthomas.com/">Thomas John</a> (psychic)</p><p><br></p><p>New York Times article:</p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/magazine/psychics-skeptics-facebook.html">Inside the Secret Sting Operations to Expose Celebrity Psychics - The ...https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/magazine/psychics-skeptics-facebook.html</a></p><h1><br></h1><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Support for this episode is brought to you by BetterHelp.</strong></p><p><br></p><p>Is there is something that interferes with your happiness or is preventing you from achieving your goals? Connect with your professional counselor in a safe and private online environment.</p><p><br></p><p>Sign up today with discount code “PRETEND” to get 10% off your first month.</p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://betterhelp.com/pretend">Betterhelp.com/pretend</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>This episode was written and produced by Javier Leiva</p><p><br></p><p>Theme music by Joe Basile with <a href="http://thechicken.net/">thechicken.net</a></p><p><br></p><p>Additional music by Glad Rags</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S408: The Psychic Kids (James Randi and Project Alpha)</title>
      <description>In 1979, two high school kids claiming to be psychic managed to fool parapsychology researchers at Washington University using simple magic tricks and sleight of hand. Little did the scientists know, these kids were just amateur magicians pulling a fast one on them.
Today, these kids are grown. Their names are Steve Shaw, who now goes by the stage name Banachek, and Mike Edwards. But back in 1979, they were seen as boys with exceptional abilities. They were planted in the parapsychology research study by the magician and skeptic James Randi. They coined this stunt Project Alpha.
The parapsychology lab at Washington State University was called the McDonnell Laboratory for Psychical Research. The lab ran a long series of experiments ranging from moving objects in sealed glass domes to controlling clocks and creating images appear on unexposed film. Banacheck and Edwards say they received no training from James Randi. They had to rely on their instincts and come up with illusions on the fly.
During their time at the McDonnell research institute, they followed one rule—always tell the truth if you’re ever asked whether they were faking the results. They kept this ruse going for almost three years.
This is part of my series on Psychics. Part 1 features my conversation with Uri Geller.
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Links
EXPLORATORY RESEARCH WITH TWO NEW PSYCHIC METAL BENDERS
Transcribed from Research in Parapsychology (1981), pp. 144-146
Peter R. Phillips and Mark Shafer† (Washington University)
http://www.aiprinc.org/documents/PS.pdf
McDonnell Laboratory press release after the revelation
http://www.aiprinc.org/documents/CIA_on_Randi.pdf
Parapsychological Weapon - NSA Memo
Project STARGATE
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/nsa-rdp96x00790r000100030042-9
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Written and Produced by Javier Leiva
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      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jun 2019 03:20:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Psychic Kids (James Randi and Project Alpha)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In 1979, two high school kids claiming to be psychic managed to fool parapsychology researchers at Washington University using simple magic tricks and sleight of hand. Little did the scientists know, these kids were just amateur magicians pulling a fast one on them.
Today, these kids are grown. Their names are Steve Shaw, who now goes by the stage name Banachek, and Mike Edwards. But back in 1979, they were seen as boys with exceptional abilities. They were planted in the parapsychology research study by the magician and skeptic James Randi. They coined this stunt Project Alpha.
The parapsychology lab at Washington State University was called the McDonnell Laboratory for Psychical Research. The lab ran a long series of experiments ranging from moving objects in sealed glass domes to controlling clocks and creating images appear on unexposed film. Banacheck and Edwards say they received no training from James Randi. They had to rely on their instincts and come up with illusions on the fly.
During their time at the McDonnell research institute, they followed one rule—always tell the truth if you’re ever asked whether they were faking the results. They kept this ruse going for almost three years.
This is part of my series on Psychics. Part 1 features my conversation with Uri Geller.
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Links
EXPLORATORY RESEARCH WITH TWO NEW PSYCHIC METAL BENDERS
Transcribed from Research in Parapsychology (1981), pp. 144-146
Peter R. Phillips and Mark Shafer† (Washington University)
http://www.aiprinc.org/documents/PS.pdf
McDonnell Laboratory press release after the revelation
http://www.aiprinc.org/documents/CIA_on_Randi.pdf
Parapsychological Weapon - NSA Memo
Project STARGATE
https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/nsa-rdp96x00790r000100030042-9
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      <title>S407: The Psychic Spy (featuring Uri Geller)</title>
      <description>In 2017, The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) released more than 12 million pages of declassified documents online. Some of these documents pertained to the self-proclaimed psychic spy Uri Geller. 

The documents revealed a CIA funded study at the Stanford Research Institute revolving around psychokinesis. Psychokinesis is the ability for someone to move objects with the power of their minds. Why in the world would the CIA, arguably the world’s most elite spy agency, want to study psychics?

I interviewed Uri Geller about his time at the Stanford Research Institute. We spoke about his childhood, discovering his supernatural abilities, his involvement with spy agencies like the Israeli Mossad, and many other unbelievable events.

You have to remember, this all took place in the 1970s. Governments were more open to exploring the supernatural. Even the Soviet Union reportedly hired psychics to spy on their enemies.

But not everyone was eager to seek the help of psychics. Johnny Carson invited Uri Geller on The Tonight Show and it was a total disaster. Uri Geller could not perform his most basic tricks. What happened? Uri Geller says it was a hit job. 

To learn more about Uri Geller, check out The Secret Life of Uri Geller. It's a fascinating documentary.


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      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Jun 2019 16:35:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Psychic Spy (featuring Uri Geller)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In 2017, The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) released more than 12 million pages of declassified documents online. Some of these documents pertained to the self-proclaimed psychic spy Uri Geller. 

The documents revealed a CIA funded study at the Stanford Research Institute revolving around psychokinesis. Psychokinesis is the ability for someone to move objects with the power of their minds. Why in the world would the CIA, arguably the world’s most elite spy agency, want to study psychics?

I interviewed Uri Geller about his time at the Stanford Research Institute. We spoke about his childhood, discovering his supernatural abilities, his involvement with spy agencies like the Israeli Mossad, and many other unbelievable events.

You have to remember, this all took place in the 1970s. Governments were more open to exploring the supernatural. Even the Soviet Union reportedly hired psychics to spy on their enemies.

But not everyone was eager to seek the help of psychics. Johnny Carson invited Uri Geller on The Tonight Show and it was a total disaster. Uri Geller could not perform his most basic tricks. What happened? Uri Geller says it was a hit job. 

To learn more about Uri Geller, check out The Secret Life of Uri Geller. It's a fascinating documentary.


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        <![CDATA[<h1>In 2017, The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) released more than <a href="https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/collection/crest-25-year-program-archive">12 million pages of declassified documents online</a>. Some of these documents pertained to the self-proclaimed psychic spy <a href="https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/document/cia-rdp96-00787r000700110003-2">Uri Geller.</a> </h1><p><br></p><p>The documents revealed a CIA funded study at the Stanford Research Institute revolving around psychokinesis. Psychokinesis is the ability for someone to move objects with the power of their minds. Why in the world would the CIA, arguably the world’s most elite spy agency, want to study psychics?</p><p><br></p><p>I interviewed Uri Geller about his time at the Stanford Research Institute. We spoke about his childhood, discovering his supernatural abilities, his involvement with spy agencies like the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossad">Israeli Mossad</a>, and many other unbelievable events.</p><p><br></p><p>You have to remember, this all took place in the 1970s. Governments were more open to exploring the supernatural. Even the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Kulagina">Soviet Union reportedly hired psychics to spy </a>on their enemies.</p><p><br></p><p>But not everyone was eager to seek the help of psychics. Johnny Carson invited <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqCJDpNnHNI">Uri Geller on The Tonight Show</a> and it was a total disaster. Uri Geller could not perform his most basic tricks. What happened? Uri Geller says it was a hit job. </p><p><br></p><p>To learn more about Uri Geller, check out <a href="https://vimeo.com/118800997">The Secret Life of Uri Geller</a>. It's a fascinating documentary.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Theme music by <a href="https://www.thechicken.net/">The Chicken</a></p><p><br></p><p>Additional music by Podington Bear, Glad Rags, Blue Dot Sessions</p><p>Written and produced by Javier Leiva</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>3596</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S406: The Bounty Hunter Part 2</title>
      <description>Jack Saltarelli is a bounty hunter who also happens to be a former fugitive. 


In part one of the Bounty Hunter, a judge sentenced Jack to 20 years in prison for a drug offense. After failing to appeal the judge’s decision, Jack decided he wasn’t going back to prison.

Instead, Jack Saltarelli moved to Pennsylvania and started cooking meth in a mountainside cabin. When he wasn't cooking meth, Jack was hiding in plain sight on national television. He was volunteering as a search and rescue crew members looking for victims of the Atlanta Monster, serial killer Wayne Williams.

This is a wild story, so I don't want to spoil it for you. Hear how the FBI finally caught up to him.


Special thanks to former agent Jerri Williams with the FBI Retired Case File Review podcast for introducing me to Jack. I would also like to thank former FBI agent Judy Tyler and Jack Saltarelli for sharing their stories.



Jack Saltarelli with agent Judy Tyler and the FBI[/caption]

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      <pubDate>Wed, 22 May 2019 03:52:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Bounty Hunter Part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Jack Saltarelli is a bounty hunter who also happens to be a former fugitive. 


In part one of the Bounty Hunter, a judge sentenced Jack to 20 years in prison for a drug offense. After failing to appeal the judge’s decision, Jack decided he wasn’t going back to prison.

Instead, Jack Saltarelli moved to Pennsylvania and started cooking meth in a mountainside cabin. When he wasn't cooking meth, Jack was hiding in plain sight on national television. He was volunteering as a search and rescue crew members looking for victims of the Atlanta Monster, serial killer Wayne Williams.

This is a wild story, so I don't want to spoil it for you. Hear how the FBI finally caught up to him.


Special thanks to former agent Jerri Williams with the FBI Retired Case File Review podcast for introducing me to Jack. I would also like to thank former FBI agent Judy Tyler and Jack Saltarelli for sharing their stories.



Jack Saltarelli with agent Judy Tyler and the FBI[/caption]

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        <![CDATA[<h1>Jack Saltarelli is a bounty hunter who also happens to be a former fugitive. </h1><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>In <a href="http://pretendradio.org/s403-bounty-hunter-part-1/">part one of the Bounty Hunter</a>, a judge sentenced Jack to 20 years in prison for a drug offense. After failing to appeal the judge’s decision, Jack decided he wasn’t going back to prison.</p><p><br></p><p>Instead, Jack Saltarelli moved to Pennsylvania and started cooking meth in a mountainside cabin. When he wasn't cooking meth, Jack was hiding in plain sight on national television. He was volunteering as a search and rescue crew members looking for victims of the Atlanta Monster, serial killer Wayne Williams.</p><p><br></p><p>This is a wild story, so I don't want to spoil it for you. Hear how the FBI finally caught up to him.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Special thanks to former agent <a href="https://jerriwilliams.com/">Jerri Williams</a> with the <a href="https://jerriwilliams.com/podcast-2/">FBI Retired Case File Review podcast</a> for introducing me to Jack. I would also like to thank former FBI agent Judy Tyler and Jack Saltarelli for sharing their stories.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Jack Saltarelli with agent Judy Tyler and the FBI[/caption]</p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Credits</strong></p><p><br></p><p>Pretend is produced by Javier Leiva</p><p><br></p><p>Theme music by <a href="http://thechicken.net/">The Chicken</a></p><p><br></p><p>Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions</p><p><br></p><p>Promos this week for <a href="https://adatewithdateline.blubrry.com/">A Date with Dateline</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2604</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S405: The Bounty Hunter Part 1</title>
      <description>Jack Saltarelli is a bounty hunter. His job is to hunt down fugitives. Any given day, he’s going after rapist, murderers, and people who skip court. Most bounty hunters carry lethal weapons, but not Jack. He goes door-to-door carrying a stun gun and a training revolver that fires rubber bullets. 

You may be asking yourself what’s the difference between a cop and a bounty hunter? First, bounty hunters have more authority than local police. Cops have jurisdictions, and they need warrants in order to enter your home. Bounty hunters, on the other hand, can hunt you down anywhere, and they can even barge into your homes if they have to.

How can they get away with this? Simple. Let’s say you get arrested and sign a bail bond contract to get out of jail. The moment you sign that contract, you’re waiving your constitutional rights.

I met up with Jack at his bail bonds office in Gulfport, Mississippi. Let’s just say that Jack isn’t your ordinary bounty hunter. His story is much more complicated than that. Find out the secret Jack Saltarelli has been hiding for more than 30 years.

Part 2 is available right now for my Patreon supporters.

Retired FBI Agent Jerri Williams

You know, people always ask me, “Javier, where do you find these stories?” The answer is all sorts of places. But not this one. I learned about this story from my podcast from my friend Jerri Williams. Jerri is a retired FBI agent who has a podcast called FBI Retired Casefile Review. You may remember Jerri from the episode with the telemarketing con artist named Carl. If you haven’t check out FBI Retired Casefile Review, do yourself a favor and subscribe. Jerri is on every week featuring real former FBI agents describing their case. She is the real deal. You can listen to Jerri's interview with Jack Saltarelli and retired FBI agent Judy Tyler here.

Also, you should check out her new book, it’s called FBI Myths and Misconceptions: A Manual for Armchair Detectives. Jerri debunks clichés and misconceptions about the FBI in books, TV, and movies.

And thank you to you for helping me fund this story. If it weren’t for my Patreon supporters, I couldn’t be able to support the flight down to Gulf Port, MS, or the rental car and hotel. Seriously, this story was great because I was able to be there with Jack. If you want to hear more stories like this, please consider donating one dollar to the show. It really goes a long way.



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Promos this week for Beyond the Obituary and Spy Stories Podcast






Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2019 15:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Bounty Hunter Part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Jack Saltarelli is a bounty hunter. His job is to hunt down fugitives. Any given day, he’s going after rapist, murderers, and people who skip court. Most bounty hunters carry lethal weapons, but not Jack. He goes door-to-door carrying a stun gun and a training revolver that fires rubber bullets. 

You may be asking yourself what’s the difference between a cop and a bounty hunter? First, bounty hunters have more authority than local police. Cops have jurisdictions, and they need warrants in order to enter your home. Bounty hunters, on the other hand, can hunt you down anywhere, and they can even barge into your homes if they have to.

How can they get away with this? Simple. Let’s say you get arrested and sign a bail bond contract to get out of jail. The moment you sign that contract, you’re waiving your constitutional rights.

I met up with Jack at his bail bonds office in Gulfport, Mississippi. Let’s just say that Jack isn’t your ordinary bounty hunter. His story is much more complicated than that. Find out the secret Jack Saltarelli has been hiding for more than 30 years.

Part 2 is available right now for my Patreon supporters.

Retired FBI Agent Jerri Williams

You know, people always ask me, “Javier, where do you find these stories?” The answer is all sorts of places. But not this one. I learned about this story from my podcast from my friend Jerri Williams. Jerri is a retired FBI agent who has a podcast called FBI Retired Casefile Review. You may remember Jerri from the episode with the telemarketing con artist named Carl. If you haven’t check out FBI Retired Casefile Review, do yourself a favor and subscribe. Jerri is on every week featuring real former FBI agents describing their case. She is the real deal. You can listen to Jerri's interview with Jack Saltarelli and retired FBI agent Judy Tyler here.

Also, you should check out her new book, it’s called FBI Myths and Misconceptions: A Manual for Armchair Detectives. Jerri debunks clichés and misconceptions about the FBI in books, TV, and movies.

And thank you to you for helping me fund this story. If it weren’t for my Patreon supporters, I couldn’t be able to support the flight down to Gulf Port, MS, or the rental car and hotel. Seriously, this story was great because I was able to be there with Jack. If you want to hear more stories like this, please consider donating one dollar to the show. It really goes a long way.



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To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate



Credits

Pretend is produced by Javier Leiva

Theme music by The Chicken

Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions

Promos this week for Beyond the Obituary and Spy Stories Podcast






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        <![CDATA[<h1>Jack Saltarelli is a bounty hunter. His job is to hunt down fugitives. Any given day, he’s going after rapist, murderers, and people who skip court. Most bounty hunters carry lethal weapons, but not Jack. He goes door-to-door carrying a stun gun and a training revolver that fires rubber bullets. </h1><p><br></p><p>You may be asking yourself what’s the difference between a cop and a bounty hunter? First, bounty hunters have more authority than local police. Cops have jurisdictions, and they need warrants in order to enter your home. Bounty hunters, on the other hand, can hunt you down anywhere, and they can even barge into your homes if they have to.</p><p><br></p><p>How can they get away with this? Simple. Let’s say you get arrested and sign a bail bond contract to get out of jail. The moment you sign that contract, you’re waiving your constitutional rights.</p><p><br></p><p>I met up with Jack at his bail bonds office in Gulfport, Mississippi. Let’s just say that Jack isn’t your ordinary bounty hunter. His story is much more complicated than that. Find out the secret Jack Saltarelli has been hiding for more than 30 years.</p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">Part 2 is available right now for my Patreon supporters</a>.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Retired FBI Agent Jerri Williams</strong></p><p><br></p><p>You know, people always ask me, “Javier, where do you find these stories?” The answer is all sorts of places. But not this one. I learned about this story from my podcast from my friend Jerri Williams. Jerri is a retired FBI agent who has a podcast called <a href="https://jerriwilliams.com/podcast-2/">FBI Retired Casefile Review</a>. You may remember Jerri from the episode with the <a href="http://pretendradio.org/the-taker-fbi-con-artist/">telemarketing con artist named Carl</a>. If you haven’t check out FBI Retired Casefile Review, do yourself a favor and subscribe. Jerri is on every week featuring real former FBI agents describing their case. She is the real deal. You can listen to Jerri's interview with Jack Saltarelli and retired FBI agent Judy Tyler <a href="https://jerriwilliams.com/episode-147-judy-tyler-and-jack-saltarelli-meth-lab-fugitive/">here</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>Also, you should check out her new book, it’s called <a href="https://jerriwilliams.com/books/fbi-myths-and-misconceptions-a-manual-for-armchair-detectives/">FBI Myths and Misconceptions: A Manual for Armchair Detectives</a>. Jerri debunks clichés and misconceptions about the FBI in books, TV, and movies.</p><p><br></p><p>And thank you to you for helping me fund this story. If it weren’t for my Patreon supporters, I couldn’t be able to support the flight down to Gulf Port, MS, or the rental car and hotel. Seriously, this story was great because I was able to be there with Jack. If you want to hear more stories like this, please consider donating one dollar to the show. It really goes a long way.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Credits</strong></p><p><br></p><p>Pretend is produced by Javier Leiva</p><p><br></p><p>Theme music by <a href="http://thechicken.net">The Chicken</a></p><p><br></p><p>Additional music by Blue Dot Sessions</p><p><br></p><p>Promos this week for <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/beyond-the-obituary/id1454700198">Beyond the Obituary</a> and <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spy-stories/id1445615918">Spy Stories Podcast</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S404: The Soccer Mom</title>
      <description>Every night, Marie Walsh had the same nightmare.If only she could roll over and tell her husband the truth. But she can’t. Tonight, she’s going to have to suffer alone.


Marie says, "I had a dream where they were chasing me and chasing me." But one night, Marie's nightmare was different.

"I finally got away. I was finally free, and they wouldn't be able to catch me. And I woke up feeling really happy. After all those years of being a nightmare, I'd finally gotten away."

But what was Marie running from? After all, she was just a middle-aged suburban mom who lived an unremarkable life.

"I was a middle-aged mother of three in a suburb of San Diego, California. I was a soccer mom. That's kind of what I did."

Every day revolved around her kids. "It was not that glamorous or exciting."

It was just this very average life. An average life that she’s worked so hard to keep. But one night, her recurring nightmare returned. Except for this time she was wide awake.

Find out the secret that kept Marie running for more than 30 years.

After the episode, make sure to read the book: A Tale Of Two Lives: The Susan LeFevre Fugitive Story

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Lies, lies, and more lies

A few seasons ago, I asked you to submit stories about lies. Either lies that you’ve told or lies that have impacted you personally. And boy, was the response crazy! I ended up making a whole episode dedicated to lies. I want to try it again. Email me a voice memo. Chances are your story could make it on the show.

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If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at info@pretendradio.org.

For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.

To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2019 02:23:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Soccer Mom</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Every night, Marie Walsh had the same nightmare.If only she could roll over and tell her husband the truth. But she can’t. Tonight, she’s going to have to suffer alone.


Marie says, "I had a dream where they were chasing me and chasing me." But one night, Marie's nightmare was different.

"I finally got away. I was finally free, and they wouldn't be able to catch me. And I woke up feeling really happy. After all those years of being a nightmare, I'd finally gotten away."

But what was Marie running from? After all, she was just a middle-aged suburban mom who lived an unremarkable life.

"I was a middle-aged mother of three in a suburb of San Diego, California. I was a soccer mom. That's kind of what I did."

Every day revolved around her kids. "It was not that glamorous or exciting."

It was just this very average life. An average life that she’s worked so hard to keep. But one night, her recurring nightmare returned. Except for this time she was wide awake.

Find out the secret that kept Marie running for more than 30 years.

After the episode, make sure to read the book: A Tale Of Two Lives: The Susan LeFevre Fugitive Story

_______________


Lies, lies, and more lies

A few seasons ago, I asked you to submit stories about lies. Either lies that you’ve told or lies that have impacted you personally. And boy, was the response crazy! I ended up making a whole episode dedicated to lies. I want to try it again. Email me a voice memo. Chances are your story could make it on the show.

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Story idea? 
If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at info@pretendradio.org.

For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.

To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<h1>Every night, Marie Walsh had the same nightmare.If only she could roll over and tell her husband the truth. But she can’t. Tonight, she’s going to have to suffer alone.</h1><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Marie says, "I had a dream where they were chasing me and chasing me." But one night, Marie's nightmare was different.</p><p><br></p><p>"I finally got away. I was finally free, and they wouldn't be able to catch me. And I woke up feeling really happy. After all those years of being a nightmare, I'd finally gotten away."</p><p><br></p><p>But what was Marie running from? After all, she was just a middle-aged suburban mom who lived an unremarkable life.</p><p><br></p><p>"I was a middle-aged mother of three in a suburb of San Diego, California. I was a soccer mom. That's kind of what I did."</p><p><br></p><p>Every day revolved around her kids. "It was not that glamorous or exciting."</p><p><br></p><p>It was just this very average life. An average life that she’s worked so hard to keep. But one night, her recurring nightmare returned. Except for this time she was wide awake.</p><p><br></p><p>Find out the secret that kept Marie running for more than 30 years.</p><p><br></p><p>After the episode, make sure to read the book: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Tale-Two-Lives-Marie-Walsh/dp/0615446884">A Tale Of Two Lives: The Susan LeFevre Fugitive Story</a></p><p><br></p><p>_______________</p><p><br></p><h1><br></h1><h1><strong>Lies, lies, and more lies</strong></h1><p><br></p><p>A few seasons ago, I asked you to submit stories about lies. Either lies that you’ve told or lies that have impacted you personally. And boy, was the response crazy! I ended up making <a href="http://pretendradio.org/19-the-stranger-lies-deception/">a whole episode dedicated to lies</a>. I want to try it again. Email me a voice memo. Chances are your story could make it on the show.</p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S403: The One Who Got Away</title>
      <description>Peter Pan syndrome is when someone refuses to grow up. 

It’s neither a disease nor a recognized mental disorder—it’s just a state of mind. Today, you're going to meet a man who became a fugitive in order to live in his very own Neverland.

Larry Douglas Jones is not your typical fugitive. He had a wife and three kids. And to be honest, he's not a dangerous man. He became overwhelmed with life and decided to run away.

This is the first in a series of stories about fugitives running from the law. This season, we’ll explore how abandoning your old identity leads to a whole set of complications. How do these criminals assume a new identity? What strategies do they use to avoid getting caught?

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This episode was 100% funded by you. 

I was able to travel to Gulfport, MS for this story using funds raised on Patreon. So if you’d like to see me to take the show on the road, consider chipping in a buck or two on our Patreon page. Plus, you’ll get access to early episodes and bonus content. So, thank you so much for the support.

_______________


Lies, lies, and more lies

A few seasons ago, I asked you to submit stories about lies. Either lies that you’ve told or lies that have impacted you personally. And boy, was the response crazy! I ended up making a whole episode dedicated to lies. I want to try it again. Email me a voice memo. Chances are your story could make it on the show.

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Story idea? 
If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at info@pretendradio.org.

For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.

To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2019 03:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The One Who Got Away</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Peter Pan syndrome is when someone refuses to grow up. 

It’s neither a disease nor a recognized mental disorder—it’s just a state of mind. Today, you're going to meet a man who became a fugitive in order to live in his very own Neverland.

Larry Douglas Jones is not your typical fugitive. He had a wife and three kids. And to be honest, he's not a dangerous man. He became overwhelmed with life and decided to run away.

This is the first in a series of stories about fugitives running from the law. This season, we’ll explore how abandoning your old identity leads to a whole set of complications. How do these criminals assume a new identity? What strategies do they use to avoid getting caught?

_______________


This episode was 100% funded by you. 

I was able to travel to Gulfport, MS for this story using funds raised on Patreon. So if you’d like to see me to take the show on the road, consider chipping in a buck or two on our Patreon page. Plus, you’ll get access to early episodes and bonus content. So, thank you so much for the support.

_______________


Lies, lies, and more lies

A few seasons ago, I asked you to submit stories about lies. Either lies that you’ve told or lies that have impacted you personally. And boy, was the response crazy! I ended up making a whole episode dedicated to lies. I want to try it again. Email me a voice memo. Chances are your story could make it on the show.

-------
Story idea? 
If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at info@pretendradio.org.

For more episodes like this visit pretendradio.org.

To get early releases and bonus episodes go to pretendradio.org/donate


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<h1>Peter Pan syndrome is when someone refuses to grow up. </h1><p><br></p><p>It’s neither a disease nor a recognized mental disorder—it’s just a state of mind. Today, you're going to meet a man who became a fugitive in order to live in his very own Neverland.</p><p><br></p><p>Larry Douglas Jones is not your typical fugitive. He had a wife and three kids. And to be honest, he's not a dangerous man. He became overwhelmed with life and decided to run away.</p><p><br></p><p>This is the first in a series of stories about fugitives running from the law. This season, we’ll explore how abandoning your old identity leads to a whole set of complications. How do these criminals assume a new identity? What strategies do they use to avoid getting caught?</p><p><br></p><p>_______________</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>This episode was 100% funded by you. </strong></p><p><br></p><p>I was able to travel to Gulfport, MS for this story using funds raised on <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">Patreon</a>. So if you’d like to see me to take the show on the road, consider chipping in a buck or two on our <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">Patreon page</a>. Plus, you’ll get access to early episodes and bonus content. So, thank you so much for the support.</p><p><br></p><p>_______________</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Lies, lies, and more lies</strong></p><p><br></p><p>A few seasons ago, I asked you to submit stories about lies. Either lies that you’ve told or lies that have impacted you personally. And boy, was the response crazy! I ended up making <a href="http://pretendradio.org/19-the-stranger-lies-deception/">a whole episode dedicated to lies</a>. I want to try it again. Email me a voice memo. Chances are your story could make it on the show.</p><p><br></p><p>-------</p><h1><strong>Story idea? </strong></h1><p>If you have a story to share, email Javier a voice memo or short written description at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a>.</p><p><br></p><p>For more episodes like this visit <a href="https://cms.megaphone.fm/organizations/eca2bba6-5eac-11e8-b750-a344e2023286/podcasts/d1194664-ec48-11e8-879b-cbb0584e3baa/episodes/fd7eaeb0-4498-11eb-8208-f7b74a594f54/pretendradio.org">pretendradio.org.</a></p><p><br></p><p>To get early releases and bonus episodes go to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">pretendradio.org/donate</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S402: The Shawcross Letters</title>
      <description>Arthur Shawcross is one of America's most notorious serial killers. This is the story about one of his closest friends. Who do you turn to when your deepest fantasies involve murder and cannibalism? It's an affliction most people can't relate to—unless you're a serial killer. For John Paul Fay, that confidant was a killer named Arthur Shawcross. In a series of letters, Fay confesses to Shawcross his desire to kill, yet he never crosses that line.




My friend John Taylor interviewed John Paul Fay and asked him, what keeps him from acting on his disturbing urges. This episode is frightening. If you enjoyed it as much as I did, please check out the Twisted Podcast. You won't be disappointed.



The episode you're about to listen to is borrowed from the Twisted Podcast with John Taylor. You can read John Paul Fay's book titled the Shawcross Letters: My Journey Into The Mind Of Evil.



*Warning this episode contains extremely graphic material including descriptions of murder and cannibalism.



Listen to my full conversation with John Taylor on my Patreon feed.




Alison Sweeney joins us to talk about the Shawcross Letters and her new project “Chronicle Mysteries” on Hallmark Movie and Mysteries.

The host of a true crime podcast embarks on her latest project, and uncovers a decades-old murder while investigating a mysterious disappearance, in “Chronicle Mysteries: Recovered,” a new original premiering Sunday, February 17, (9 p.m. ET/PT) on Hallmark Movies &amp; Mysteries. Alison Sweeney (“Days of Our Lives,” “The Biggest Loser”) executive produces and stars, along with Benjamin Ayres (“Saving Hope”).

The Chronicle Mysteries: Recovered premieres Sunday, February 17 at 9pm/8c

The Chronicle Mysteries: The Wrong Man premieres Sunday, February 24 at 9pm/8c

The Chronicle Mysteries: Vines that Bind premieres Sunday, March 3 at 9pm/8c




Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2019 01:08:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Shawcross Letters</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Arthur Shawcross is one of America's most notorious serial killers. This is the story about one of his closest friends. Who do you turn to when your deepest fantasies involve murder and cannibalism? It's an affliction most people can't relate to—unless you're a serial killer. For John Paul Fay, that confidant was a killer named Arthur Shawcross. In a series of letters, Fay confesses to Shawcross his desire to kill, yet he never crosses that line.




My friend John Taylor interviewed John Paul Fay and asked him, what keeps him from acting on his disturbing urges. This episode is frightening. If you enjoyed it as much as I did, please check out the Twisted Podcast. You won't be disappointed.



The episode you're about to listen to is borrowed from the Twisted Podcast with John Taylor. You can read John Paul Fay's book titled the Shawcross Letters: My Journey Into The Mind Of Evil.



*Warning this episode contains extremely graphic material including descriptions of murder and cannibalism.



Listen to my full conversation with John Taylor on my Patreon feed.




Alison Sweeney joins us to talk about the Shawcross Letters and her new project “Chronicle Mysteries” on Hallmark Movie and Mysteries.

The host of a true crime podcast embarks on her latest project, and uncovers a decades-old murder while investigating a mysterious disappearance, in “Chronicle Mysteries: Recovered,” a new original premiering Sunday, February 17, (9 p.m. ET/PT) on Hallmark Movies &amp; Mysteries. Alison Sweeney (“Days of Our Lives,” “The Biggest Loser”) executive produces and stars, along with Benjamin Ayres (“Saving Hope”).

The Chronicle Mysteries: Recovered premieres Sunday, February 17 at 9pm/8c

The Chronicle Mysteries: The Wrong Man premieres Sunday, February 24 at 9pm/8c

The Chronicle Mysteries: Vines that Bind premieres Sunday, March 3 at 9pm/8c




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        <![CDATA[<h1>Arthur Shawcross is one of America's most notorious serial killers. This is the story about one of his closest friends. Who do you turn to when your deepest fantasies involve murder and cannibalism? It's an affliction most people can't relate to—unless you're a serial killer. For John Paul Fay, that confidant was a killer named Arthur Shawcross. In a series of letters, Fay confesses to Shawcross his desire to kill, yet he never crosses that line.</h1><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>My friend John Taylor interviewed John Paul Fay and asked him, what keeps him from acting on his disturbing urges. This episode is frightening. If you enjoyed it as much as I did, please check out the <a href="http://www.twistedpodcast.com/">Twisted Podcast</a>. You won't be disappointed.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>The episode you're about to listen to is borrowed from the <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/twisted-podcast/id1156118442?mt=2">Twisted Podcast with John Taylor</a>. You can read John Paul Fay's book titled the <a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;cad=rja&amp;uact=8&amp;ved=2ahUKEwi547Wh1rLgAhUhnuAKHR5vCsAQFjAAegQIEBAB&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FSHAWCROSS-LETTERS-Journey-Into-Mind-ebook%2Fdp%2FB078T6NVGK&amp;usg=AOvVaw0aBGotkMbi0NV5NAJTYYJN">Shawcross Letters: My Journey Into The Mind Of Evil</a>.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>*Warning this episode contains extremely graphic material including descriptions of murder and cannibalism.</strong></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">Listen to my full conversation with John Taylor on my Patreon feed</a>.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Alison Sweeney joins us to talk about the Shawcross Letters and her new project “<a href="https://www.hallmarkmoviesandmysteries.com/mysteries-on-hallmark-movies-mysteries">Chronicle Mysteries</a>” on Hallmark Movie and Mysteries.</p><p><br></p><p>The host of a true crime podcast embarks on her latest project, and uncovers a decades-old murder while investigating a mysterious disappearance, in “Chronicle Mysteries: Recovered,” a new original premiering Sunday, February 17, (9 p.m. ET/PT) on Hallmark Movies &amp; Mysteries. Alison Sweeney (“Days of Our Lives,” “The Biggest Loser”) executive produces and stars, along with Benjamin Ayres (“Saving Hope”).</p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.hallmarkmoviesandmysteries.com/chronicle-mysteries-recovered">The Chronicle Mysteries: Recovered premieres Sunday, February 17 at 9pm/8c</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.hallmarkmoviesandmysteries.com/chronicle-mysteries-the-wrong-man">The Chronicle Mysteries: The Wrong Man premieres Sunday, February 24 at 9pm/8c</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.hallmarkmoviesandmysteries.com/chronicle-mysteries-vines-that-bind">The Chronicle Mysteries: Vines that Bind premieres Sunday, March 3 at 9pm/8c</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S401: The Commander </title>
      <description>Abby Ellin didn't know it yet, but the man she was about to marry was a compulsive liar living a double life. She was duped—hard.
In this bonus episode, we talk about her story and why she's now obsessed with con artists.
Abby Ellin is a New York Times contributor and author of Duped: Double Lives, False Identities and the Conman I Almost Married. 
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      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2019 02:03:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Commander </itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>bonus</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Abby Ellin didn't know it yet, but the man she was about to marry was a compulsive liar living a double life. She was duped—hard.
In this bonus episode, we talk about her story and why she's now obsessed with con artists.
Abby Ellin is a New York Times contributor and author of Duped: Double Lives, False Identities and the Conman I Almost Married. 
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Stick around to the end of the episode to listen to a preview of Pretend season 4. 
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        <![CDATA[<p>Abby Ellin didn't know it yet, but the man she was about to marry was a compulsive liar living a double life. She was duped—hard.</p><p>In this bonus episode, we talk about her story and why she's now obsessed with con artists.</p><p>Abby Ellin is a New York Times contributor and author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Duped-Double-Identities-Almost-Married-ebook/dp/B07CWQSKKS/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1539538162&amp;sr=8-6&amp;keywords=duped"><em>Duped: Double Lives, False Identities and the Conman I Almost Married</em></a>. </p><p>____________</p><p>Stick around to the end of the episode to listen to a preview of Pretend season 4. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S311: The Prophet – Matthew Fenner vs. the Word of Faith Fellowship Cult Part 2</title>
      <description>Let’s say a man speaks to another man. Perhaps he looks at him for too long or laughs at his joke. That’s gay. Maybe you’re standing too close. It doesn’t matter. If I’m a Word of Faith fellowship member and I think you’re gay—then you’re gay. I don’t have to prove it–I know it. And I can’t let you suffer from those gay demons. I have to pray for you to release the gay spirits out of you. And the way we pray at the Word of Faith Fellowship is through loud prayers. And it’s not only me praying over you—Sussie, Bobby, and Roger will join in. Soon, you’ll have 20 to 30 people screaming at you. And like Jane says, “people can get carried away.” So, it’s easy to imagine this prayer becoming more than a loud scream. I might hold on to your shoulders and give you a gentle tug. Then, I might punch you in the chest. Maybe my hands creep further up, and before I realize it, I’m wrapping my fingers around your neck. This hypothetical scenario I painted for you is exactly what Matthew Fenner says happened to him.
Release the gay demons
Tonight, it’s Matthew Fenner’s turn to receive an exorcism. Church ministers are praying over him. They’re trying to release the devil’s grip over his homosexual desires. Danielle Cordes was there the night. She says Brooke Covington, Jane’s so-called adopted daughter, was the one calling the shots. People who know Brooke’s style of worship say that she doesn’t have time to deal with your devils. So when it’s time to pray over you, it’s going to hurt. Brooke barks at Danielle and demands her to join in. “Brooke was the one coaching them through it,” explained Danielle. She says she too participated in the prayer. “I never slapped him or did any of that. I had my arm on him, but if I had like, I don’t know, I couldn’t do it. I just couldn’t do it.” 
The case against Brooke Covington and the Word of Faith Fellowship
The night after the alleged attack, Matthew Fenner escaped the Word of Faith Fellowship. He went straight to the police and filed a report. Unfortunately for him, the authorities were only willing to file misdemeanor charges. It will take years for actual criminal charges to be filed. To give you an idea, this beating allegedly took place in January 2013. Matthew was 19 at the time. He’s 25 years old now. That’s almost 5 years and there’s still no resolution to this case. 
What happens next?
This is the final installment of season 3 The Prophet. This might be the last episode of this series, but the story is far from over. To keep up with this story, follow John Huddle’s blog religiouscultinfo.com andCitizens against corruption and abuse on Facebook.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2018 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Prophet Matthew Fenner vs. the Word of Faith Fellowship Cult Part 2</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>What does being gay mean at the Word of Faith Fellowship?</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Let’s say a man speaks to another man. Perhaps he looks at him for too long or laughs at his joke. That’s gay. Maybe you’re standing too close. It doesn’t matter. If I’m a Word of Faith fellowship member and I think you’re gay—then you’re gay. I don’t have to prove it–I know it. And I can’t let you suffer from those gay demons. I have to pray for you to release the gay spirits out of you. And the way we pray at the Word of Faith Fellowship is through loud prayers. And it’s not only me praying over you—Sussie, Bobby, and Roger will join in. Soon, you’ll have 20 to 30 people screaming at you. And like Jane says, “people can get carried away.” So, it’s easy to imagine this prayer becoming more than a loud scream. I might hold on to your shoulders and give you a gentle tug. Then, I might punch you in the chest. Maybe my hands creep further up, and before I realize it, I’m wrapping my fingers around your neck. This hypothetical scenario I painted for you is exactly what Matthew Fenner says happened to him.
Release the gay demons
Tonight, it’s Matthew Fenner’s turn to receive an exorcism. Church ministers are praying over him. They’re trying to release the devil’s grip over his homosexual desires. Danielle Cordes was there the night. She says Brooke Covington, Jane’s so-called adopted daughter, was the one calling the shots. People who know Brooke’s style of worship say that she doesn’t have time to deal with your devils. So when it’s time to pray over you, it’s going to hurt. Brooke barks at Danielle and demands her to join in. “Brooke was the one coaching them through it,” explained Danielle. She says she too participated in the prayer. “I never slapped him or did any of that. I had my arm on him, but if I had like, I don’t know, I couldn’t do it. I just couldn’t do it.” 
The case against Brooke Covington and the Word of Faith Fellowship
The night after the alleged attack, Matthew Fenner escaped the Word of Faith Fellowship. He went straight to the police and filed a report. Unfortunately for him, the authorities were only willing to file misdemeanor charges. It will take years for actual criminal charges to be filed. To give you an idea, this beating allegedly took place in January 2013. Matthew was 19 at the time. He’s 25 years old now. That’s almost 5 years and there’s still no resolution to this case. 
What happens next?
This is the final installment of season 3 The Prophet. This might be the last episode of this series, but the story is far from over. To keep up with this story, follow John Huddle’s blog religiouscultinfo.com andCitizens against corruption and abuse on Facebook.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Let’s say a man speaks to another man. Perhaps he looks at him for too long or laughs at his joke. That’s gay. Maybe you’re standing too close. It doesn’t matter. If I’m a Word of Faith fellowship member and I think you’re gay—then you’re gay. I don’t have to prove it–I know it. And I can’t let you suffer from those gay demons. I have to pray for you to release the gay spirits out of you. And the way we pray at the Word of Faith Fellowship is through loud prayers. And it’s not only me praying over you—Sussie, Bobby, and Roger will join in. Soon, you’ll have 20 to 30 people screaming at you. And like Jane says, “people can get carried away.” So, it’s easy to imagine this prayer becoming more than a loud scream. I might hold on to your shoulders and give you a gentle tug. Then, I might punch you in the chest. Maybe my hands creep further up, and before I realize it, I’m wrapping my fingers around your neck. This hypothetical scenario I painted for you is exactly what Matthew Fenner says happened to him.</p><p><strong>Release the gay demons</strong></p><p>Tonight, it’s Matthew Fenner’s turn to receive an exorcism. Church ministers are praying over him. They’re trying to release the devil’s grip over his homosexual desires. Danielle Cordes was there the night. She says Brooke Covington, Jane’s so-called adopted daughter, was the one calling the shots. People who know Brooke’s style of worship say that she doesn’t have time to deal with your devils. So when it’s time to pray over you, it’s going to hurt. Brooke barks at Danielle and demands her to join in. “Brooke was the one coaching them through it,” explained Danielle. She says she too participated in the prayer. “I never slapped him or did any of that. I had my arm on him, but if I had like, I don’t know, I couldn’t do it. I just couldn’t do it.” </p><p><strong>The case against Brooke Covington and the Word of Faith Fellowship</strong></p><p>The night after the alleged attack, Matthew Fenner escaped the Word of Faith Fellowship. He went straight to the police and filed a report. Unfortunately for him, the authorities were only willing to file misdemeanor charges. It will take years for actual criminal charges to be filed. To give you an idea, this beating allegedly took place in January 2013. Matthew was 19 at the time. He’s 25 years old now. That’s almost 5 years and there’s still no resolution to this case. </p><p><strong>What happens next?</strong></p><p>This is the final installment of season 3 The Prophet. This might be the last episode of this series, but the story is far from over. To keep up with this story, follow John Huddle’s blog <a href="http://religiouscultsinfo.com/">religiouscultinfo.com </a>and<a href="https://www.facebook.com/citizensagainstcountycorruption/">Citizens against corruption and abuse on Facebook</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S310: The Prophet – Matthew Fenner vs. the Word of Faith Fellowship Cult Part 1</title>
      <description>Jane Whaley recently turned 80-years-old. Obviously, the Word of Faith Fellowship can’t go on forever. At least not the way we know of it today. So, who’s taking over? Can it go on without Jane Whaley’s vision and authority? Or will it all just fall apart?
John Huddle, a former member, says that Jane’s biological daughter Robin Webster is believed to take over the church. But he suspects that, when Jane Whaley dies, there will be a power struggle within the church.The case against the Word of Faith Fellowship
We’ll talk more about this alleged attack in the next episode. Today, we’re going to focus on how we got to this point. Before Brooke Covington was charged with kidnapping and beating Matthew Fenner, she was actually the person who recruited him into the church. How did she go from being his spiritual leader, to being charged with beating him? In order to understand the case against Brooke Covington and the Word of Faith Fellowship ministries, you first understand how Matthew Fenner joined the church.

Cults recruit the vulnerable
The biggest questions I get all the time is, how do people get sucked into a cult. Everyone says that they would never fall for it, so how did Matthew and his family become one of them?
 
Before Matthew Fenner joined the Word of Faith Fellowship, he thought they were freaks. He heard rumors of the demonic possessions and members vomiting in buckets to evil spirits. Let’s just say that he wasn’t exactly a perfect candidate. And on top of that, Matthew was openly gay and considered himself an atheist. So, how does someone like him get sucked into a ultra conservative Christian cult?
The Word of Faith Fellowship found Matthew Fenner, and his family, when there were at their lowest point. Matthew’s family rejected his sexuality, his mother was in a bad marriage, and they were running out of money. These were desperate times.
Matthew attended his first service in February 2010. During this time he had friends, was a member of a dance troupe, and attended public school. By December of that same year, he cut ties with everyone he knew, quit dance, and enrolled in the church’s private school. How did it happen? How can someone go from gay atheist to a god-fearing cult member?
Matthew Fenner describes his journey into the Word of Faith Fellowship. Listen to episode 10 of the Prophet on Apple podcast, Google Play, Spotify, or Stitcher.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2018 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Prophet – Matthew Fenner vs. the Word of Faith Fellowship Cult Part 1</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Who will take over the Word of Faith Fellowship when Jane Whaley is gone?</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Jane Whaley recently turned 80-years-old. Obviously, the Word of Faith Fellowship can’t go on forever. At least not the way we know of it today. So, who’s taking over? Can it go on without Jane Whaley’s vision and authority? Or will it all just fall apart?
John Huddle, a former member, says that Jane’s biological daughter Robin Webster is believed to take over the church. But he suspects that, when Jane Whaley dies, there will be a power struggle within the church.The case against the Word of Faith Fellowship
We’ll talk more about this alleged attack in the next episode. Today, we’re going to focus on how we got to this point. Before Brooke Covington was charged with kidnapping and beating Matthew Fenner, she was actually the person who recruited him into the church. How did she go from being his spiritual leader, to being charged with beating him? In order to understand the case against Brooke Covington and the Word of Faith Fellowship ministries, you first understand how Matthew Fenner joined the church.

Cults recruit the vulnerable
The biggest questions I get all the time is, how do people get sucked into a cult. Everyone says that they would never fall for it, so how did Matthew and his family become one of them?
 
Before Matthew Fenner joined the Word of Faith Fellowship, he thought they were freaks. He heard rumors of the demonic possessions and members vomiting in buckets to evil spirits. Let’s just say that he wasn’t exactly a perfect candidate. And on top of that, Matthew was openly gay and considered himself an atheist. So, how does someone like him get sucked into a ultra conservative Christian cult?
The Word of Faith Fellowship found Matthew Fenner, and his family, when there were at their lowest point. Matthew’s family rejected his sexuality, his mother was in a bad marriage, and they were running out of money. These were desperate times.
Matthew attended his first service in February 2010. During this time he had friends, was a member of a dance troupe, and attended public school. By December of that same year, he cut ties with everyone he knew, quit dance, and enrolled in the church’s private school. How did it happen? How can someone go from gay atheist to a god-fearing cult member?
Matthew Fenner describes his journey into the Word of Faith Fellowship. Listen to episode 10 of the Prophet on Apple podcast, Google Play, Spotify, or Stitcher.
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        <![CDATA[<p>Jane Whaley recently turned 80-years-old. Obviously, the Word of Faith Fellowship can’t go on forever. At least not the way we know of it today. So, who’s taking over? Can it go on without Jane Whaley’s vision and authority? Or will it all just fall apart?</p><p><a href="http://religiouscultsinfo.com/">John Huddle</a>, a former member, says that Jane’s biological daughter Robin Webster is believed to take over the church. But he suspects that, when Jane Whaley dies, there will be a power struggle within the church.<strong>The case against the Word of Faith Fellowship</strong></p><p>We’ll talk more about this alleged attack in the next episode. Today, we’re going to focus on how we got to this point. Before Brooke Covington was charged with kidnapping and beating Matthew Fenner, she was actually the person who recruited him into the church. How did she go from being his spiritual leader, to being charged with beating him? In order to understand the case against Brooke Covington and the Word of Faith Fellowship ministries, you first understand how Matthew Fenner joined the church.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Cults recruit the vulnerable</strong></p><p>The biggest questions I get all the time is, how do people get sucked into a cult. Everyone says that they would never fall for it, so how did Matthew and his family become one of them?</p><p> </p><p>Before Matthew Fenner joined the Word of Faith Fellowship, he thought they were freaks. He heard rumors of the demonic possessions and members vomiting in buckets to evil spirits. Let’s just say that he wasn’t exactly a perfect candidate. And on top of that, Matthew was openly gay and considered himself an atheist. So, how does someone like him get sucked into a ultra conservative Christian cult?</p><p>The Word of Faith Fellowship found Matthew Fenner, and his family, when there were at their lowest point. Matthew’s family rejected his sexuality, his mother was in a bad marriage, and they were running out of money. These were desperate times.</p><p>Matthew attended his first service in February 2010. During this time he had friends, was a member of a dance troupe, and attended public school. By December of that same year, he cut ties with everyone he knew, quit dance, and enrolled in the church’s private school. How did it happen? How can someone go from gay atheist to a god-fearing cult member?</p><p>Matthew Fenner describes his journey into the Word of Faith Fellowship. Listen to episode 10 of the Prophet on <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend-radio/id1245307962?mt=2">Apple podcast</a>, <a href="https://playmusic.app.goo.gl/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&amp;isi=691797987&amp;ius=googleplaymusic&amp;apn=com.google.android.music&amp;link=https://play.google.com/music/m/Ipl4ftte2uk7hmtzzhgri26zivi?t%3DPretend_Radio%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16">Google Play</a>, <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2vaCjR7UvlN9aTIzW6kNCo?si=nlQxtYtoRLmTJB9xMofT_Q">Spotify</a>, or <a href="https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/pretend-radio-2/pretend-radio-3">Stitcher</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S309: The Prophet – Inside the Mind of Cult Leader Jane Whaley</title>
      <description>Christina Bryant is about to go face-to-face with the real Jane Whaley.
 
In my previous episode, I got to see the political side of Jane—the Jane she wanted the world to meet. Christina, on the other hand, is about to talk with the real Jane Whaley—the one everyone fears. And she got it all on tape.

Christina Bryant went undercover inside the Word of Faith Fellowship. She’s wearing a hidden microphone. It’s been 6 years since she last step foot in the church. You see, Christina is a former member who has been excommunicated and is forbidden to contact her family. If she ever wants to ever speak with them again, she has to go through Jane Whaley first.

This 3-hour recording is completely engrossing. However, there are certain parts of this tape that brings up interesting legal questions regarding child abuse. Jane flat out says she’s not required by law to report sexual abuse because of pastor confidentiality. Is this true? How can this be true? Jane also claims if a child has bruising, the NC Department of Social Services doesn’t consider that abuse.


Reporting Child Abuse and Neglect in North Carolina
I reached out to my friend Rabia Chaudry from the Undisclosed Podcast for help. She put me in touch with her co-host Colin Miller, to walk me through what Jane says and how it applies to North Carolina law. I have to say, I’m shocked.

I also spoke with NC licensed attorney Paul Ditz. He’s one of the few attorney’s to have ever questioned Jane Whaley on the stand. He tells me that just because DSS allows minor bruising and Jane is protected by penitent privilege, doesn’t mean that she’s not responsible.

Take a deep breath because you’re about to go inside the mind of Jane Whaley. 


Sources:
NC Article 7 – Competency of WitnessesReporting Child Abuse and Neglect in North CarolinaParental Discipline: When Is It Abuse and/or a Crime?A&amp;E Documentary on the Word of Faith Fellowship titled “The Devil Next Door” postponed
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      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2018 08:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Prophet – Inside the Mind of Cult Leader Jane Whaley</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In a secret recording, Jane Whaley admits withholding a child sexual abuse allegation because of penitent privilege.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Christina Bryant is about to go face-to-face with the real Jane Whaley.
 
In my previous episode, I got to see the political side of Jane—the Jane she wanted the world to meet. Christina, on the other hand, is about to talk with the real Jane Whaley—the one everyone fears. And she got it all on tape.

Christina Bryant went undercover inside the Word of Faith Fellowship. She’s wearing a hidden microphone. It’s been 6 years since she last step foot in the church. You see, Christina is a former member who has been excommunicated and is forbidden to contact her family. If she ever wants to ever speak with them again, she has to go through Jane Whaley first.

This 3-hour recording is completely engrossing. However, there are certain parts of this tape that brings up interesting legal questions regarding child abuse. Jane flat out says she’s not required by law to report sexual abuse because of pastor confidentiality. Is this true? How can this be true? Jane also claims if a child has bruising, the NC Department of Social Services doesn’t consider that abuse.


Reporting Child Abuse and Neglect in North Carolina
I reached out to my friend Rabia Chaudry from the Undisclosed Podcast for help. She put me in touch with her co-host Colin Miller, to walk me through what Jane says and how it applies to North Carolina law. I have to say, I’m shocked.

I also spoke with NC licensed attorney Paul Ditz. He’s one of the few attorney’s to have ever questioned Jane Whaley on the stand. He tells me that just because DSS allows minor bruising and Jane is protected by penitent privilege, doesn’t mean that she’s not responsible.

Take a deep breath because you’re about to go inside the mind of Jane Whaley. 


Sources:
NC Article 7 – Competency of WitnessesReporting Child Abuse and Neglect in North CarolinaParental Discipline: When Is It Abuse and/or a Crime?A&amp;E Documentary on the Word of Faith Fellowship titled “The Devil Next Door” postponed
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        <![CDATA[<p>Christina Bryant is about to go face-to-face with the real Jane Whaley.</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://pretendradio.org/s306-prophet-meet-jane-whaley-part-1/">In my previous episode</a>, I got to see the political side of Jane—the Jane she wanted the world to meet. Christina, on the other hand, is about to talk with the real Jane Whaley—the one everyone fears. And she got it all on tape.</p><p><br></p><p>Christina Bryant went undercover inside the Word of Faith Fellowship. She’s wearing a hidden microphone. It’s been 6 years since she last step foot in the church. You see, Christina is a former member who has been excommunicated and is forbidden to contact her family. If she ever wants to ever speak with them again, she has to go through Jane Whaley first.</p><p><br></p><p>This 3-hour recording is completely engrossing. However, there are certain parts of this tape that brings up interesting legal questions regarding child abuse. Jane flat out says she’s not required by law to report sexual abuse because of pastor confidentiality. Is this true? How can this be true? Jane also claims if a child has bruising, the <a href="https://www.ncdhhs.gov/divisions/dss">NC Department of Social Services</a> doesn’t consider that abuse.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Reporting Child Abuse and Neglect in North Carolina</strong></p><p>I reached out to my friend <a href="https://twitter.com/rabiasquared?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor">Rabia Chaudry</a> from the <a href="http://undisclosed-podcast.com/">Undisclosed Podcast</a> for help. She put me in touch with her co-host <a href="https://twitter.com/EvidenceProf?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor">Colin Miller</a>, to walk me through what Jane says and how it applies to North Carolina law. I have to say, I’m shocked.</p><p><br></p><p>I also spoke with NC licensed attorney <a href="https://www.paulditzlaw.com/">Paul Ditz</a>. He’s one of the few attorney’s to have ever questioned Jane Whaley on the stand. He tells me that just because DSS allows minor bruising and Jane is protected by penitent privilege, doesn’t mean that she’s not responsible.</p><p><br></p><p>Take a deep breath because you’re about to go inside the mind of Jane Whaley. </p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Sources:</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.ncleg.net/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/ByArticle/Chapter_8/Article_7.html">NC Article 7 – Competency of Witnesses</a><a href="https://www.sog.unc.edu/sites/www.sog.unc.edu/files/book_chapter/2016-10-28%2020150783%20Part%204A.pdf">Reporting Child Abuse and Neglect in North Carolina</a><a href="https://nccriminallaw.sog.unc.edu/wp-content/uploads/wp-post-to-pdf-enhanced-cache/1/parental-discipline-when-is-it-abuse-andor-a-crime.pdf">Parental Discipline: When Is It Abuse and/or a Crime?</a><a href="https://www.shelbystar.com/news/20181129/word-of-faith-documentary-postponed">A&amp;E Documentary on the Word of Faith Fellowship titled “The Devil Next Door” postponed</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S308: The Prophet - Meet Cult Leader Jane Whaley Part 3</title>
      <description>The world first learned about the Word of Faith Fellowship after an Inside Edition exposé in 1995. The investigation, led by the Trinity Foundation, revealed accusations of abuse within the church. 
Watch the Inside Edition story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwE5fBT9RYE
Jane Whaley's quiet little kingdom was suddenly in the spotlight. Hidden cameras captured Jane's signature screaming prayer. Church members told Inside Edition that they would strap children to chairs so they wouldn't run away. It was horrifying. After a brief press conference, Jane Whaley never spoke to the media on the record ever again. So why did she pick me as her first interview since 1995?
I asked Jane, "Why me?" She told me that God spoke to her after listening to my show. But why now? Jane says she wanted to contact me but said that she didn’t know how to reach me.
During my visit, Sam Whaley told me that the closest they’ve come to talking to the media was when a BBC producer approached her about doing a story. She said he was very nice, just like me. But in the end, they decided it wasn’t right. Then, an A&amp;E documentary crew asked to interview Jane and bring cameras into the church. Jane flat out said no because they weren’t interested in the truth. Her lawyers told me that the TV crew and former members showed up unannounced to church member owned businesses and caused a spectacle. 
My interview with cult leader Jane Whaley of the Word of Faith Fellowship
After the 3-hour service was over, Jane and I walked back to her office. Jane Whaley sat next to me. To my left sat her husband Sam Whaley. And across the room sat her two attorneys Mark Norris and Josh Farmer. Without ever even asking a question, Jane began to tell me about every controversial issue facing the church. She told me that she knows nothing about unemployment (Jane's referring to the recent the  guilty pleas in the unemployment fraud cases.) When I asked her about the Brazilian slaves, she told me that some of the Brazilian's making these claims are entitled and lazy. During the meeting, Jane performed a blasting prayer for me. She also told me that she's gearing for a great confrontation and that they're ready for the end of times.
National Domestic Violence Hotline
I also want to take the time to thank the former members who have listened to the show and have written me emails, facebook messages about their experience at the Word of Faith Fellowship. It just reinforces that what I’m doing is important.
 
Also, I know there are current members reading this right now. If you feel you’re in danger or just need someone to talk to, call the National Domestic Violence Hotline1-800-799-7233. They’re available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. They can help you find a place to stay near Spindale while you figure things out. Or you can contact the Citizens against corruption and abuse828-289-7923.  at area code 
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Southern Gothic
Minds of Madness
 
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      <pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2018 03:29:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Prophet - Meet Cult Leader Jane Whaley Part 3</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>The world first learned about the Word of Faith Fellowship cult after an Inside Edition exposé  in 1995. The investigation, led by the Trinity Foundation, revealed accusations of abuse within the church.  Watch the Inside Edition story:...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The world first learned about the Word of Faith Fellowship after an Inside Edition exposé in 1995. The investigation, led by the Trinity Foundation, revealed accusations of abuse within the church. 
Watch the Inside Edition story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwE5fBT9RYE
Jane Whaley's quiet little kingdom was suddenly in the spotlight. Hidden cameras captured Jane's signature screaming prayer. Church members told Inside Edition that they would strap children to chairs so they wouldn't run away. It was horrifying. After a brief press conference, Jane Whaley never spoke to the media on the record ever again. So why did she pick me as her first interview since 1995?
I asked Jane, "Why me?" She told me that God spoke to her after listening to my show. But why now? Jane says she wanted to contact me but said that she didn’t know how to reach me.
During my visit, Sam Whaley told me that the closest they’ve come to talking to the media was when a BBC producer approached her about doing a story. She said he was very nice, just like me. But in the end, they decided it wasn’t right. Then, an A&amp;E documentary crew asked to interview Jane and bring cameras into the church. Jane flat out said no because they weren’t interested in the truth. Her lawyers told me that the TV crew and former members showed up unannounced to church member owned businesses and caused a spectacle. 
My interview with cult leader Jane Whaley of the Word of Faith Fellowship
After the 3-hour service was over, Jane and I walked back to her office. Jane Whaley sat next to me. To my left sat her husband Sam Whaley. And across the room sat her two attorneys Mark Norris and Josh Farmer. Without ever even asking a question, Jane began to tell me about every controversial issue facing the church. She told me that she knows nothing about unemployment (Jane's referring to the recent the  guilty pleas in the unemployment fraud cases.) When I asked her about the Brazilian slaves, she told me that some of the Brazilian's making these claims are entitled and lazy. During the meeting, Jane performed a blasting prayer for me. She also told me that she's gearing for a great confrontation and that they're ready for the end of times.
National Domestic Violence Hotline
I also want to take the time to thank the former members who have listened to the show and have written me emails, facebook messages about their experience at the Word of Faith Fellowship. It just reinforces that what I’m doing is important.
 
Also, I know there are current members reading this right now. If you feel you’re in danger or just need someone to talk to, call the National Domestic Violence Hotline1-800-799-7233. They’re available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. They can help you find a place to stay near Spindale while you figure things out. Or you can contact the Citizens against corruption and abuse828-289-7923.  at area code 
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Southern Gothic
Minds of Madness
 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The world first learned about the Word of Faith Fellowship after an Inside Edition exposé in 1995. The investigation, led by the <a href="http://www.trinityfi.org/">Trinity Foundation</a>, revealed accusations of abuse within the church. </p><p>Watch the Inside Edition story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwE5fBT9RYE</p><p>Jane Whaley's quiet little kingdom was suddenly in the spotlight. Hidden cameras captured Jane's signature screaming prayer. Church members told Inside Edition that they would strap children to chairs so they wouldn't run away. It was horrifying. After a brief press conference, Jane Whaley never spoke to the media on the record ever again. So why did she pick me as her first interview since 1995?</p><p>I asked Jane, "Why me?" She told me that God spoke to her after listening to <a href="http://pretendradio.org/the-prophet-part-1/">my show</a>. But why now? Jane says she wanted to contact me but said that she didn’t know how to reach me.</p><p>During my visit, Sam Whaley told me that the closest they’ve come to talking to the media was when a BBC producer approached her about doing a story. She said he was very nice, just like me. But in the end, they decided it wasn’t right. Then, an <a href="https://www.aetv.com/shows/the-devil-next-door">A&amp;E documentary</a> crew asked to interview Jane and bring cameras into the church. Jane flat out said no because they weren’t interested in the truth. Her lawyers told me that the TV crew and former members showed up unannounced to church member owned businesses and caused a spectacle. </p><h2>My interview with cult leader Jane Whaley of the Word of Faith Fellowship</h2><p>After the 3-hour service was over, Jane and I walked back to her office. Jane Whaley sat next to me. To my left sat her husband Sam Whaley. And across the room sat her two attorneys Mark Norris and Josh Farmer. Without ever even asking a question, Jane began to tell me about every controversial issue facing the church. She told me that she knows nothing about unemployment (Jane's referring to the recent the <a href="https://wlos.com/news/local/word-of-faith-leader-covington-could-face-30-years-in-prison-1m-fine"> guilty pleas in the unemployment fraud cases</a>.) When I asked her about the Brazilian slaves, she told me that some of the Brazilian's making these claims are entitled and lazy. During the meeting, Jane performed a blasting prayer for me. She also told me that she's gearing for a great confrontation and that they're ready for the end of times.</p><h3>National Domestic Violence Hotline</h3><p>I also want to take the time to thank the former members who have listened to the show and have written me emails, facebook messages about their experience at the Word of Faith Fellowship. It just reinforces that what I’m doing is important.</p><p> </p><p>Also, I know there are current members reading this right now. If you feel you’re in danger or just need someone to talk to, call the <a href="https://www.thehotline.org/">National Domestic Violence Hotline</a><a href="tel:1-800-799-7233">1-800-799-7233</a>. They’re available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. They can help you find a place to stay near Spindale while you figure things out. Or you can contact the <a href="https://www.facebook.com/citizensagainstcountycorruption/">Citizens against corruption and abuse</a><a href="tel:828-289-7923">828-289-7923</a>.  at area code </p><h3>Promos</h3><p><a href="https://www.southerngothicmedia.com/">Southern Gothic</a></p><p><a href="https://mindsofmadnesspodcast.com/">Minds of Madness</a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S307: The Prophet - Meet Jane Whaley Part 2</title>
      <description>Previously on Pretend Radio, I came face-to-face with pastor Jane Whaley of the Word of Faith Fellowship. When I arrived, we met in her office for a few minutes before the church service began. I was surprised by everyone's friendliness. Suddenly, the music started playing and we knew it was time to head into the main sanctuary. Jane Whaley held my hand as we walked down a long hallway towards the service. As we inched closer to the sanctuary, the music got louder and louder—it was ear drum busting loud. Jane and I walked in like rock stars. Her attorney escorted me to the second row behind Jane and her husband Sam Whaley.
Word of Faith Fellowship sanctuary in Spindale, North Carolina
Was the church service real or just a big show?
The service started around 9:30am and ended around 12:30pm. It was a musical event filled with praise and worship. Old women were jumping up and down in their high heels, old men were singing as loud as they could, and the children appeared to be happy. Former members say that this is exactly what Jane Whaley wanted me to see. According to them, this service was tailored specifically for me.
 
Bonus episode: Why did Paul McCartney's drummer join a cult?
 
Joe English played drums with Paul McCartney and Wings. Today, he's a devoted member at the Word of Faith Fellowship church in Spindale, North Carolina. I met Joe English during my visit. Hear how Jane Whaley saved him from a life of drugs and rock n' roll.
 Listen to this exclusive Patreon episode.
 
 
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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2018 03:40:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Prophet - Meet Jane Whaley Part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Previously on Pretend Radio, I came face-to-face with pastor Jane Whaley of the Word of Faith Fellowship. When I arrived, we met in her office for a few minutes before the church service began. I was surprised by everyone's friendliness. Suddenly, the...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Previously on Pretend Radio, I came face-to-face with pastor Jane Whaley of the Word of Faith Fellowship. When I arrived, we met in her office for a few minutes before the church service began. I was surprised by everyone's friendliness. Suddenly, the music started playing and we knew it was time to head into the main sanctuary. Jane Whaley held my hand as we walked down a long hallway towards the service. As we inched closer to the sanctuary, the music got louder and louder—it was ear drum busting loud. Jane and I walked in like rock stars. Her attorney escorted me to the second row behind Jane and her husband Sam Whaley.
Word of Faith Fellowship sanctuary in Spindale, North Carolina
Was the church service real or just a big show?
The service started around 9:30am and ended around 12:30pm. It was a musical event filled with praise and worship. Old women were jumping up and down in their high heels, old men were singing as loud as they could, and the children appeared to be happy. Former members say that this is exactly what Jane Whaley wanted me to see. According to them, this service was tailored specifically for me.
 
Bonus episode: Why did Paul McCartney's drummer join a cult?
 
Joe English played drums with Paul McCartney and Wings. Today, he's a devoted member at the Word of Faith Fellowship church in Spindale, North Carolina. I met Joe English during my visit. Hear how Jane Whaley saved him from a life of drugs and rock n' roll.
 Listen to this exclusive Patreon episode.
 
 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="http://pretendradio.org/s306-prophet-meet-jane-whaley-part-1/">Previously on Pretend Radio</a>, I came face-to-face with pastor Jane Whaley of the Word of Faith Fellowship. When I arrived, we met in her office for a few minutes before the church service began. I was surprised by everyone's friendliness. Suddenly, the music started playing and we knew it was time to head into the main sanctuary. Jane Whaley held my hand as we walked down a long hallway towards the service. As we inched closer to the sanctuary, the music got louder and louder—it was ear drum busting loud. Jane and I walked in like rock stars. Her attorney escorted me to the second row behind Jane and her husband Sam Whaley.</p><p>Word of Faith Fellowship sanctuary in Spindale, North Carolina</p><h2>Was the church service real or just a big show?</h2><p>The service started around 9:30am and ended around 12:30pm. It was a musical event filled with praise and worship. Old women were jumping up and down in their high heels, old men were singing as loud as they could, and the children appeared to be happy. Former members say that this is exactly what Jane Whaley wanted me to see. According to them, this service was tailored specifically for me.</p><p> </p><h2>Bonus episode: Why did Paul McCartney's drummer join a cult?</h2><p> </p><p>Joe English played drums with Paul McCartney and Wings. Today, he's a devoted member at the Word of Faith Fellowship church in Spindale, North Carolina. I met Joe English during my visit. Hear how Jane Whaley saved him from a life of drugs and rock n' roll.</p><p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/posts/why-did-paul-22548006?utm_medium=social&amp;utm_source=twitter&amp;utm_campaign=postshare"> Listen to this exclusive Patreon episode</a>.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S306: The Prophet - Meet Cult Leader Jane Whaley Part 1</title>
      <description>As far as I know, I'm the first journalist who has ever interviewed pastor Jane Whaley. Heck, I might be the only member of the media to have attended church service. How was I able to pull this off? The short answer is, I have no idea.
In fact, when the executive producer of the upcoming A&amp;E series on Word of Faith Fellowship found out about my exclusive interview, he gave me a call. He asked me, "I just want to know one thing... how did you do it?" I told him, "I just asked nicely?"
(UPDATE: A&amp;E pulls the docu-series the night before it was scheduled to air)

My first contact with Jane Whaley
The last people to get an invitation to the Word of Faith Fellowship got the cops called on them. However, that didn't stop me from contacting Jane. I have Jane Whaley's email address and intend to use it. Besides, what's the worst thing that could happen? Get arrested for trespassing?
  

True Crime Podcast Festival | Chicago 2019
Also, I am excited to announce that Pretend Radio is going to be attending the first annual True Crime Podcast Festival on July 13, 2019 in Chicago! Trust me, start planning now. It’s worth traveling to. This is your chance to mingle with podcasters you listen to regularly. There will also be live episode recordings as well as panel discussions. In fact, I’m speaking in one of them.
Some of the shows registered are All Crime No Cattle, Criminology, Canadian True Crime, Mugshot, Swindled, Sword and Scale, and so many more. You won’t want to miss this.
Go to the website TCPF2019.com to find information on tickets and the hotel. Prices do go up the closer we get to the event so you won’t want to wait. When you buy your ticket, make sure you mention Pretend Radio on the ticket registration survey. This is going to be a blast. I can’t wait to meet everyone at the True Crime Podcast Festival! For more information, see the show notes.
Many people have been writing me and sharing their stories. If you have a story to share, shoot me an email at info@pretendradio.org or follow me on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.
Our theme music was composed by Joe Basile with thechicken.net.
 
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      <pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2018 02:31:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Prophet - Meet Cult Leader Jane Whaley Part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>As far as I know, I'm the first journalist who has ever interviewed pastor Jane Whaley. Heck, I might be the only member of the media to have attended church service. How was I able to pull this off? The short answer is, I have no idea. In fact, when...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>As far as I know, I'm the first journalist who has ever interviewed pastor Jane Whaley. Heck, I might be the only member of the media to have attended church service. How was I able to pull this off? The short answer is, I have no idea.
In fact, when the executive producer of the upcoming A&amp;E series on Word of Faith Fellowship found out about my exclusive interview, he gave me a call. He asked me, "I just want to know one thing... how did you do it?" I told him, "I just asked nicely?"
(UPDATE: A&amp;E pulls the docu-series the night before it was scheduled to air)

My first contact with Jane Whaley
The last people to get an invitation to the Word of Faith Fellowship got the cops called on them. However, that didn't stop me from contacting Jane. I have Jane Whaley's email address and intend to use it. Besides, what's the worst thing that could happen? Get arrested for trespassing?
  

True Crime Podcast Festival | Chicago 2019
Also, I am excited to announce that Pretend Radio is going to be attending the first annual True Crime Podcast Festival on July 13, 2019 in Chicago! Trust me, start planning now. It’s worth traveling to. This is your chance to mingle with podcasters you listen to regularly. There will also be live episode recordings as well as panel discussions. In fact, I’m speaking in one of them.
Some of the shows registered are All Crime No Cattle, Criminology, Canadian True Crime, Mugshot, Swindled, Sword and Scale, and so many more. You won’t want to miss this.
Go to the website TCPF2019.com to find information on tickets and the hotel. Prices do go up the closer we get to the event so you won’t want to wait. When you buy your ticket, make sure you mention Pretend Radio on the ticket registration survey. This is going to be a blast. I can’t wait to meet everyone at the True Crime Podcast Festival! For more information, see the show notes.
Many people have been writing me and sharing their stories. If you have a story to share, shoot me an email at info@pretendradio.org or follow me on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.
Our theme music was composed by Joe Basile with thechicken.net.
 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>As far as I know, I'm the first journalist who has ever interviewed pastor Jane Whaley. Heck, I might be the only member of the media to have attended church service. How was I able to pull this off? The short answer is, I have no idea.</p><p>In fact, when the executive producer of the upcoming A&amp;E series on Word of Faith Fellowship found out about my exclusive interview, he gave me a call. He asked me, "I just want to know one thing... how did you do it?" I told him, "I just asked nicely?"</p><p>(UPDATE: <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2018/11/28/ae-postpones-docuseries-devil-next-door-about-alleged-abuse-north-carolina-church/?noredirect=on&amp;utm_term=.9e6db6f8b6fe">A&amp;E pulls the docu-series the night before it was scheduled to air</a>)</p><p><br></p><p><strong>My first contact with Jane Whaley</strong></p><p>The last people to get an invitation to the Word of Faith Fellowship got the cops called on them. However, that didn't stop me from contacting Jane. I have Jane Whaley's email address and intend to use it. Besides, what's the worst thing that could happen? Get arrested for trespassing?</p><p>  </p><p><br></p><p><strong>True Crime Podcast Festival | Chicago 2019</strong></p><p>Also, I am excited to announce that <strong>Pretend Radio</strong> is going to be attending the first annual <a href="https://tcpf2019.com/">True Crime Podcast Festival</a> on July 13, 2019 in Chicago! Trust me, start planning now. It’s worth traveling to. This is your chance to mingle with podcasters you listen to regularly. There will also be live episode recordings as well as panel discussions. In fact, I’m speaking in one of them.</p><p>Some of the shows registered are All Crime No Cattle, Criminology, Canadian True Crime, Mugshot, Swindled, Sword and Scale, <a href="https://tcpf2019.com/podcasts/">and so many more</a>. You won’t want to miss this.</p><p>Go to the website TCPF2019.com to find information on tickets and the hotel. Prices do go up the closer we get to the event so you won’t want to wait. When you buy your ticket, make sure you mention <strong>Pretend Radio</strong> on the ticket registration survey. This is going to be a blast. I can’t wait to meet everyone at the True Crime Podcast Festival! For more information, see the show notes.</p><p>Many people have been writing me and sharing their stories. If you have a story to share, shoot me an email at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a> or follow me on <a href="https://twitter.com/pretend_radio">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/PretendRadioPodcast/">Facebook</a>, and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/pretend_radio/">Instagram</a>.</p><p>Our theme music was composed by Joe Basile with <a href="http://thechicken.net">thechicken.net</a>.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S305: The Prophet - Brazil and the Word of Faith Cult</title>
      <description>Did you know that the Word of Faith Fellowship has nearly 2,000 members internationally? They have affiliate churches all over the world including Brazil, Sweden, Scotland, and other countries.
Brazil is by far the biggest territory ruled under Jane Whaley’s kingdom. They have churches in two southeastern Brazilian cities. The first church is in Soa Joaquim de Bicas which is about 6 hours north of Rio de Janeiro. They also have second church in Franco de Rocha which is an hour outside of Sao Paulo.

Jane conquers Brazil and offers them salvation
For a few lucky Brazilians, Jane blessed them with more than just salvation—an opportunity to live in the United States. Ana Albuquerque told the Associated Press that when she first arrived in Spindale, church members showered her with love. She said, "The first time you go, they treat you well. But afterwards, they start treating you bad.” Ana says things turned ugly fast. She claims she worked full time as a teacher’s assistant and baby sat church member’s children at night–all without pay. Then the physical abuse started. Ana says that Jane and another minister spanked her with a wooden stick. She told the AP they blasted her with a screaming prayer because she was “unclean” and possessed by the devil. And we’re not talking a small tap on the butt kind of spank. Ana says the beatings lasted for at least 40 minutes. She finally was allowed to return to Brazil and has since left the church.

16 Brazilians come forward
“It was a horror living there,” says Rebecca Mello. Her dreams of freedom quickly turned into a nightmare. She told the Associated Press that she was brought to the US in 2009 on a student visa. Immediately after she got here, church leaders took her passports and her money, and was quickly put to work. "We’re made to get up early, make the kids breakfast, cook, do their beds, pick up the the laundry.” Thiago Silva says, "We were there working, but we never got paid. If you’re not paid for something, even for your food, I would say that you’re a slave."
All in all, 16 Brazilian’s have come forward to share their personal story of abuse and enslavement.
 
True Crime Podcast Festival | Chicago 2019
Also, I am excited to announce that Pretend Radio is going to be attending the first annual True Crime Podcast Festival on July 13, 2019 in Chicago! Trust me, start planning now. It’s worth traveling to. This is your chance to mingle with podcasters you listen to regularly. There will also be live episode recordings as well as panel discussions. In fact, I’m speaking in one of them.
Go to the website TCPF2019.com to find information on tickets and the hotel.
Many people have been writing me and sharing their stories. If you have a story to share, shoot me an email at info@pretendradio.org or follow me on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.
Today’s episode was edited by the talented Molly Clay. Our theme music was composed by Joe Basile with thechicken.net.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2018 04:17:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Prophet - Brazil and the Word of Faith Cult</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Did you know that the Word of Faith Fellowship has nearly 2,000 members internationally? They have affiliate churches all over the world including Brazil, Sweden, Scotland, and other countries. I don’t get it. Why would Jane Whaley want to branch...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Did you know that the Word of Faith Fellowship has nearly 2,000 members internationally? They have affiliate churches all over the world including Brazil, Sweden, Scotland, and other countries.
Brazil is by far the biggest territory ruled under Jane Whaley’s kingdom. They have churches in two southeastern Brazilian cities. The first church is in Soa Joaquim de Bicas which is about 6 hours north of Rio de Janeiro. They also have second church in Franco de Rocha which is an hour outside of Sao Paulo.

Jane conquers Brazil and offers them salvation
For a few lucky Brazilians, Jane blessed them with more than just salvation—an opportunity to live in the United States. Ana Albuquerque told the Associated Press that when she first arrived in Spindale, church members showered her with love. She said, "The first time you go, they treat you well. But afterwards, they start treating you bad.” Ana says things turned ugly fast. She claims she worked full time as a teacher’s assistant and baby sat church member’s children at night–all without pay. Then the physical abuse started. Ana says that Jane and another minister spanked her with a wooden stick. She told the AP they blasted her with a screaming prayer because she was “unclean” and possessed by the devil. And we’re not talking a small tap on the butt kind of spank. Ana says the beatings lasted for at least 40 minutes. She finally was allowed to return to Brazil and has since left the church.

16 Brazilians come forward
“It was a horror living there,” says Rebecca Mello. Her dreams of freedom quickly turned into a nightmare. She told the Associated Press that she was brought to the US in 2009 on a student visa. Immediately after she got here, church leaders took her passports and her money, and was quickly put to work. "We’re made to get up early, make the kids breakfast, cook, do their beds, pick up the the laundry.” Thiago Silva says, "We were there working, but we never got paid. If you’re not paid for something, even for your food, I would say that you’re a slave."
All in all, 16 Brazilian’s have come forward to share their personal story of abuse and enslavement.
 
True Crime Podcast Festival | Chicago 2019
Also, I am excited to announce that Pretend Radio is going to be attending the first annual True Crime Podcast Festival on July 13, 2019 in Chicago! Trust me, start planning now. It’s worth traveling to. This is your chance to mingle with podcasters you listen to regularly. There will also be live episode recordings as well as panel discussions. In fact, I’m speaking in one of them.
Go to the website TCPF2019.com to find information on tickets and the hotel.
Many people have been writing me and sharing their stories. If you have a story to share, shoot me an email at info@pretendradio.org or follow me on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.
Today’s episode was edited by the talented Molly Clay. Our theme music was composed by Joe Basile with thechicken.net.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p><br></p><p><strong>Did you know that the Word of Faith Fellowship has nearly 2,000 members internationally? They have affiliate churches all over the world including Brazil, Sweden, Scotland, and other countries.</strong></p><p>Brazil is by far the biggest territory ruled under Jane Whaley’s kingdom. They have churches in two southeastern Brazilian cities. The first church is in Soa Joaquim de Bicas which is about 6 hours north of Rio de Janeiro. They also have second church in Franco de Rocha which is an hour outside of Sao Paulo.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Jane conquers Brazil and offers them salvation</strong></p><p>For a few lucky Brazilians, Jane blessed them with more than just salvation—an opportunity to live in the United States. <a href="https://apnews.com/52dc4fbe2fb64cec98740ad1e62b2115">Ana Albuquerque told the Associated Press </a>that when she first arrived in Spindale, church members showered her with love. She said, "The first time you go, they treat you well. But afterwards, they start treating you bad.” Ana says things turned ugly fast. She claims she worked full time as a teacher’s assistant and baby sat church member’s children at night–all without pay. Then the physical abuse started. Ana says that Jane and another minister spanked her with a wooden stick. She told the AP they blasted her with a screaming prayer because she was “unclean” and possessed by the devil. And we’re not talking a small tap on the butt kind of spank. Ana says the beatings lasted for at least 40 minutes. She finally was allowed to return to Brazil and has since left the church.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>16 Brazilians come forward</strong></p><p>“It was a horror living there,” says Rebecca Mello. Her dreams of freedom quickly turned into a nightmare. She told the Associated Press that she was brought to the US in 2009 on a student visa. Immediately after she got here, church leaders took her passports and her money, and was quickly put to work. "We’re made to get up early, make the kids breakfast, cook, do their beds, pick up the the laundry.” Thiago Silva says, "We were there working, but we never got paid. If you’re not paid for something, even for your food, I would say that you’re a slave."</p><p>All in all, 16 Brazilian’s have come forward to share their personal story of abuse and enslavement.</p><p> </p><p><strong>True Crime Podcast Festival | Chicago 2019</strong></p><p>Also, I am excited to announce that <strong>Pretend Radio</strong> is going to be attending the first annual <a href="https://tcpf2019.com/">True Crime Podcast Festival</a> on July 13, 2019 in Chicago! Trust me, start planning now. It’s worth traveling to. This is your chance to mingle with podcasters you listen to regularly. There will also be live episode recordings as well as panel discussions. In fact, I’m speaking in one of them.</p><p>Go to the website TCPF2019.com to find information on tickets and the hotel.</p><p>Many people have been writing me and sharing their stories. If you have a story to share, shoot me an email at <a href="mailto:info@pretendradio.org">info@pretendradio.org</a> or follow me on <a href="https://twitter.com/pretend_radio">Twitter</a>, <a href="https://www.facebook.com/PretendRadioPodcast/">Facebook</a>, and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/pretend_radio/">Instagram</a>.</p><p>Today’s episode was edited by the talented Molly Clay. Our theme music was composed by Joe Basile with <a href="http://thechicken.net">thechicken.net</a>.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2082</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S304: The Prophet - Allegations of Cult Abuse and Corruption</title>
      <description>When Nancy Burnette was appointed by the courts to be a guardian ad litem, she knew her job wasn’t going to be easy. A guardian ad litem is someone who represents kids in the foster care system. It’s her job to place children in homes with the right parents. If she doesn’t get right, her decision can cause lasting damage on these vulnerable children.
This was a challenge Nancy was willing to take.
So, put yourself in Nancy’s shoes for a second. If you had to place a child in the custody of the Word of Faith Fellowship family, what would you do?
This episode explores the series of questions surrounding the Word of Faith and accusations about their grip on local government. For example, did you know the  Jane Whaley’s son in law, Frank Webster, was an assistant state prosecutor at a nearby county? There are also accusations that a local social workers undermined abuse investigations at the Word of Faith Fellowship? The list of accusations go on and on.
In this episode titled “Allegations of Abuse and Corruption,” I’ll do my best to describe some of the political controversy surrounding the Word of Faith Fellowship.
 
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See the front page article on Pretend Radio and the church's response:
http://pretendradio.org/word-of-faith-fellowship-prophet-allegations-of-child-abuse-and-corruption/
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Also, I am excited to announce that Pretend Radio is going to be attending the first annual True Crime Podcast Festival on July 13, 2019 in Chicago! Trust me, start planning now, it’s worth traveling to. This is your chance to mingle with podcasters you listen to regularly. There will also be live episode recordings as well as panel discussions. In fact, I’m speaking at one of them. 
Some of the shows registered are All Crime No Cattle, Criminology, Canadian True Crime, Mugshot, Swindled, Sword and Scale, and so many more. You won’t want to miss this.

Go to the website TCPF2019.com to find information on tickets and the hotel. Prices do go up the closer we get to the event so you won’t want to wait. When you buy your ticket, make sure you mention Pretend Radio on the ticket registration survey. This is going to be a blast. I can’t wait to meet everyone at the True Crime Podcast Festival! For more information, see the show notes.
 
—PROMO—
Swindled
Framed: An investigative story
 
—MUSIC—
Thechicken.net
 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2018 02:16:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Prophet - Allegations of Cult Abuse and Corruption</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
      <itunes:image href="https://megaphone.imgix.net/podcasts/d2ffdcb8-ec48-11e8-9305-8393d5dd566a/image/Pretend-Logo-New-3000px.png?ixlib=rails-4.3.1&amp;max-w=3000&amp;max-h=3000&amp;fit=crop&amp;auto=format,compress"/>
      <itunes:subtitle>When Nancy Burnette was appointed by the courts to be a guardian ad litem, she knew her job wasn’t going to be easy. A guardian ad litem is someone who represents kids in the foster care system. It’s her job to place children in homes with the...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>When Nancy Burnette was appointed by the courts to be a guardian ad litem, she knew her job wasn’t going to be easy. A guardian ad litem is someone who represents kids in the foster care system. It’s her job to place children in homes with the right parents. If she doesn’t get right, her decision can cause lasting damage on these vulnerable children.
This was a challenge Nancy was willing to take.
So, put yourself in Nancy’s shoes for a second. If you had to place a child in the custody of the Word of Faith Fellowship family, what would you do?
This episode explores the series of questions surrounding the Word of Faith and accusations about their grip on local government. For example, did you know the  Jane Whaley’s son in law, Frank Webster, was an assistant state prosecutor at a nearby county? There are also accusations that a local social workers undermined abuse investigations at the Word of Faith Fellowship? The list of accusations go on and on.
In this episode titled “Allegations of Abuse and Corruption,” I’ll do my best to describe some of the political controversy surrounding the Word of Faith Fellowship.
 
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See the front page article on Pretend Radio and the church's response:
http://pretendradio.org/word-of-faith-fellowship-prophet-allegations-of-child-abuse-and-corruption/
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Also, I am excited to announce that Pretend Radio is going to be attending the first annual True Crime Podcast Festival on July 13, 2019 in Chicago! Trust me, start planning now, it’s worth traveling to. This is your chance to mingle with podcasters you listen to regularly. There will also be live episode recordings as well as panel discussions. In fact, I’m speaking at one of them. 
Some of the shows registered are All Crime No Cattle, Criminology, Canadian True Crime, Mugshot, Swindled, Sword and Scale, and so many more. You won’t want to miss this.

Go to the website TCPF2019.com to find information on tickets and the hotel. Prices do go up the closer we get to the event so you won’t want to wait. When you buy your ticket, make sure you mention Pretend Radio on the ticket registration survey. This is going to be a blast. I can’t wait to meet everyone at the True Crime Podcast Festival! For more information, see the show notes.
 
—PROMO—
Swindled
Framed: An investigative story
 
—MUSIC—
Thechicken.net
 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>When Nancy Burnette was appointed by the courts to be a guardian ad litem, she knew her job wasn’t going to be easy. A guardian ad litem is someone who represents kids in the foster care system. It’s her job to place children in homes with the right parents. If she doesn’t get right, her decision can cause lasting damage on these vulnerable children.</p><p>This was a challenge Nancy was willing to take.</p><p>So, put yourself in Nancy’s shoes for a second. If you had to place a child in the custody of the Word of Faith Fellowship family, what would you do?</p><p>This episode explores the series of questions surrounding the Word of Faith and accusations about their grip on local government. For example, did you know the <a href="https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article137671728.html"> Jane Whaley’s son in law, Frank Webster, was an assistant state prosecutor at a nearby county</a>? There are also accusations that a local social workers undermined abuse investigations at the Word of Faith Fellowship? The list of accusations go on and on.</p><p>In this episode titled “Allegations of Abuse and Corruption,” I’ll do my best to describe some of the political controversy surrounding the Word of Faith Fellowship.</p><p> </p><p>-------</p><p>See the front page article on Pretend Radio and the church's response:</p><p>http://pretendradio.org/word-of-faith-fellowship-prophet-allegations-of-child-abuse-and-corruption/</p><p>-------</p><p>Also, I am excited to announce that <strong>Pretend Radio</strong> is going to be attending the first annual <a href="https://tcpf2019.com/">True Crime Podcast Festival</a> on July 13, 2019 in Chicago! Trust me, start planning now, it’s worth traveling to. This is your chance to mingle with podcasters you listen to regularly. There will also be live episode recordings as well as panel discussions. In fact, I’m speaking at one of them. </p><p>Some of the shows registered are All Crime No Cattle, Criminology, Canadian True Crime, Mugshot, Swindled, Sword and Scale, <a href="https://tcpf2019.com/podcasts/">and so many more</a>. You won’t want to miss this.</p><p><br></p><p>Go to the website <a href="https://tcpf2019.com/">TCPF2019.com</a> to find information on tickets and the hotel. Prices do go up the closer we get to the event so you won’t want to wait. When you buy your ticket, make sure you mention <strong>Pretend Radio</strong> on the ticket registration survey. This is going to be a blast. I can’t wait to meet everyone at the True Crime Podcast Festival! For more information, see the show notes.</p><p> </p><p>—PROMO—</p><p><a href="http://swindledpodcast.com/">Swindled</a></p><p><a href="https://wondery.com/shows/framed/">Framed: An investigative story</a></p><p> </p><p>—MUSIC—</p><p><a href="http://thechicken.net/">Thechicken.net</a></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S303: The Prophet - Former Cult Members Speak Out</title>
      <description>On April 7th, 2018, more than a dozen former Word of Faith Fellowship members reunited at the Spindale House in Rutherford County, North Carolina.
It was an opportunity for former members to answer lingering questions for the citizens in the community. But in reality, it was probably an event designed to make good television for the documentary crew filming the whole thing. When I walked into the room, I expected a small gathering with a few chairs. Instead, I counted 6 professional video cameras and crew to match it. It was a huge production. I soon learned that today’s community event was part of an upcoming A&amp;E documentary series on the Word of Faith Fellowship. Each former member in the panel sat behind a microphone provided by the A&amp;E crew. About 80 to 100 people were in attendance—including current members of the Word of Faith Fellowship. The room was tense.

John Cooper, former Word of Faith Fellowship Former Members speaks about his experience with the Department of Social Services in Rutherford, County.


Survivors speak out against Pastor Jane Whaley

This episode was especially hard to write because there were so many stories to tell. But there was one story that stood out more than the others. Former Word of Faith Fellowship member Jamey Anderson delivered an impassioned speech about leaving the church. He lamented about being cut off from his family and missing his own grandfather’s funeral. In the audience sat his mother with an emotionless expression on her face. You see, Jamey’s mother is still a member at the church and has cut all communication with her son. Jamey called her out and said, “I’m very happy to see that whatever I've done has motivated her to show up today. So it's at least good to see her.”

Jamey used his time behind the microphone to respond to his mother’s 30 minute YouTube video. In the video, his mother Patti, his grandmother Dot, and his step-sister Allison describe why they think Jamey’s a liar and justify why they have disowned him.



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Let's Talk About Sects

Killafornia Dreaming



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      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2018 01:21:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Prophet - Former Cult Members Speak Out</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>On April 7th, 2018, more than a dozen former Word of Faith Fellowship members reunited at the Spindale House in Rutherford County, North Carolina. It was an opportunity for former members to answer lingering questions for the citizens in the...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>On April 7th, 2018, more than a dozen former Word of Faith Fellowship members reunited at the Spindale House in Rutherford County, North Carolina.
It was an opportunity for former members to answer lingering questions for the citizens in the community. But in reality, it was probably an event designed to make good television for the documentary crew filming the whole thing. When I walked into the room, I expected a small gathering with a few chairs. Instead, I counted 6 professional video cameras and crew to match it. It was a huge production. I soon learned that today’s community event was part of an upcoming A&amp;E documentary series on the Word of Faith Fellowship. Each former member in the panel sat behind a microphone provided by the A&amp;E crew. About 80 to 100 people were in attendance—including current members of the Word of Faith Fellowship. The room was tense.

John Cooper, former Word of Faith Fellowship Former Members speaks about his experience with the Department of Social Services in Rutherford, County.


Survivors speak out against Pastor Jane Whaley

This episode was especially hard to write because there were so many stories to tell. But there was one story that stood out more than the others. Former Word of Faith Fellowship member Jamey Anderson delivered an impassioned speech about leaving the church. He lamented about being cut off from his family and missing his own grandfather’s funeral. In the audience sat his mother with an emotionless expression on her face. You see, Jamey’s mother is still a member at the church and has cut all communication with her son. Jamey called her out and said, “I’m very happy to see that whatever I've done has motivated her to show up today. So it's at least good to see her.”

Jamey used his time behind the microphone to respond to his mother’s 30 minute YouTube video. In the video, his mother Patti, his grandmother Dot, and his step-sister Allison describe why they think Jamey’s a liar and justify why they have disowned him.



---SUBSCRIBE---

Apple Podcasts

Google Play

 Stitcher

 Spotify



---PROMO---

Let's Talk About Sects

Killafornia Dreaming



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Thechicken.net
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        <![CDATA[<h1>On April 7th, 2018, more than a dozen former Word of Faith Fellowship members reunited at the Spindale House in Rutherford County, North Carolina.</h1><p>It was an opportunity for former members to answer lingering questions for the citizens in the community. But in reality, it was probably an event designed to make good television for the documentary crew filming the whole thing. When I walked into the room, I expected a small gathering with a few chairs. Instead, I counted 6 professional video cameras and crew to match it. It was a huge production. I soon learned that today’s community event was part of an upcoming A&amp;E documentary series on the Word of Faith Fellowship. Each former member in the panel sat behind a microphone provided by the A&amp;E crew. About 80 to 100 people were in attendance—including current members of the Word of Faith Fellowship. The room was tense.</p><p><br></p><p>John Cooper, former Word of Faith Fellowship Former Members speaks about his experience with the Department of Social Services in Rutherford, County.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Survivors speak out against Pastor Jane Whaley</strong></p><p><br></p><p>This episode was especially hard to write because there were so many stories to tell. But there was one story that stood out more than the others. Former Word of Faith Fellowship member Jamey Anderson delivered an impassioned speech about leaving the church. He lamented about being cut off from his family and missing his own grandfather’s funeral. In the audience sat his mother with an emotionless expression on her face. You see, Jamey’s mother is still a member at the church and has cut all communication with her son. Jamey called her out and said, “I’m very happy to see that whatever I've done has motivated her to show up today. So it's at least good to see her.”</p><p><br></p><p>Jamey used his time behind the microphone to respond to his mother’s 30 minute YouTube video. In the video, his mother Patti, his grandmother Dot, and his step-sister Allison describe why they think Jamey’s a liar and justify why they have disowned him.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>---SUBSCRIBE---</p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend-radio/id1245307962?mt=2"><strong>Apple Podcasts</strong></a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://playmusic.app.goo.gl/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&amp;isi=691797987&amp;ius=googleplaymusic&amp;apn=com.google.android.music&amp;link=https://play.google.com/music/m/Ipl4ftte2uk7hmtzzhgri26zivi?t%3DPretend_Radio%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16"><strong>Google Play</strong></a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/pretend-radio-2/pretend-radio-3"><strong> Stitcher</strong></a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2vaCjR7UvlN9aTIzW6kNCo?si=i3qpcKBiQrGxTGaKWP1fTQ"><strong> Spotify</strong></a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>---PROMO---</p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.ltaspod.com/">Let's Talk About Sects</a></p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.orbitaljigsaw.com/podcasts/killafornia-dreaming/">Killafornia Dreaming</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>---MUSIC---</p><p><br></p><p><a href="http://thechicken.net">Thechicken.net</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S302: The Prophet - Who is cult leader Jane Whaley?</title>
      <description>Who is Jane Whaley?
Jane Whaley is the pastor at the Word of Faith Fellowship—a conservative, charismatic Christian church.
Those who have left the church describe her as a ruthless cult leader. But, we don't know much about her. Where did she come from? How did she assume power? I spoke with John Huddle, a former Word of Faith Fellowship member, to learn more about Jane Whaley's past.
To learn more visit pretendradio.org
 
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      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2018 05:42:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Prophet - Who is cult leader Jane Whaley?</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Who is Jane Whaley? Jane Whaley is the pastor at the Word of Faith Fellowship—a conservative, charismatic Christian church. Those who have left the church describe her as a ruthless cult leader. But, we don't know much about her. Where did she come...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Who is Jane Whaley?
Jane Whaley is the pastor at the Word of Faith Fellowship—a conservative, charismatic Christian church.
Those who have left the church describe her as a ruthless cult leader. But, we don't know much about her. Where did she come from? How did she assume power? I spoke with John Huddle, a former Word of Faith Fellowship member, to learn more about Jane Whaley's past.
To learn more visit pretendradio.org
 
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        <![CDATA[<h1>Who is Jane Whaley?</h1><h2>Jane Whaley is the pastor at the Word of Faith Fellowship—a conservative, charismatic Christian church.</h2><p>Those who have left the church describe her as a ruthless cult leader. But, we don't know much about her. Where did she come from? How did she assume power? I spoke with John Huddle, a former Word of Faith Fellowship member, to learn more about Jane Whaley's past.</p><p>To learn more visit pretendradio.org</p><p> </p><p>--Promo--</p><p>All Crime No Cattle</p><p> </p><p>--Music--</p><p>Thechicken.net</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S301: The Prophet - Word of Faith Fellowship Cult Revisited</title>
      <description>Season 3: The Prophet - Word of Faith Fellowship Revisited
I’m back with a whole new season of Pretend Radio. But this time it’s going to be a little different. Instead of telling you a different story each episode, I decided to do a serialize season where I tell you a single story, one episode at a time. So what is it about? It’s about the first episode I aired on this show—the Word of Faith Fellowship church.
Back in season one, I met up with a man who says he escaped the cult. His name is John Cooper. I contacted him and asked "Hey, do you want to meet up? I’m thinking about starting a podcast and would like to tell your story."
So, we just met up at a park in Chapel Hill, North Carolina. At this point, I didn’t know what this podcast was all about. All I knew was that he was part of a religious sect. And what he told me that day in that park blew my mind. But in the end, I feel like I didn’t do that story justice. It was one guy’s story. I needed to go out to the other side of the state, where the Word of Faith Fellowship is located, and do a little more digging. So, I got in my car and drove west. After I spending the whole day in Spindale, North Carolina, I thought to myself, there is no way I keep everything I just learned in one episode.
If season one was about John cooper, season 3 is all about the town of Spindale.
The episode you’re about to listen to is my first 3 episodes rolled into one. And I’m going to stitch them together by playing some ads for some non-profits organizations. And at the end of the episode there’s a preview of the new season.
Now many of you have already heard this story, but trust me, even I had to go back and listen to these episodes. Once the season starts, I’m not going to spend a lot setting things up. We’re just going to get right to it.
If you’re new to Pretend Radio, well this is a great place to start.
Let me tell you, it’s pretty crazy. I got deeper into this story than any other journalist. The BBC has tried and failed. The Associated Press tried and they couldn’t get in. Even A&amp;E is producing a documentary on the WOFF and they didn’t get the access I got.
 
So enjoy this flashback episode and revisit The Prophet from season one. And get ready for the season because it’s coming out very soon.
 
 
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      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2018 03:07:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Prophet - Word of Faith Fellowship Cult Revisited</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Season 3: The Prophet - Word of Faith Fellowship Revisited I’m back with a whole new season of Pretend Radio. But this time it’s going to be a little different. Instead of telling you a different story each episode, I decided to do a serialize...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Season 3: The Prophet - Word of Faith Fellowship Revisited
I’m back with a whole new season of Pretend Radio. But this time it’s going to be a little different. Instead of telling you a different story each episode, I decided to do a serialize season where I tell you a single story, one episode at a time. So what is it about? It’s about the first episode I aired on this show—the Word of Faith Fellowship church.
Back in season one, I met up with a man who says he escaped the cult. His name is John Cooper. I contacted him and asked "Hey, do you want to meet up? I’m thinking about starting a podcast and would like to tell your story."
So, we just met up at a park in Chapel Hill, North Carolina. At this point, I didn’t know what this podcast was all about. All I knew was that he was part of a religious sect. And what he told me that day in that park blew my mind. But in the end, I feel like I didn’t do that story justice. It was one guy’s story. I needed to go out to the other side of the state, where the Word of Faith Fellowship is located, and do a little more digging. So, I got in my car and drove west. After I spending the whole day in Spindale, North Carolina, I thought to myself, there is no way I keep everything I just learned in one episode.
If season one was about John cooper, season 3 is all about the town of Spindale.
The episode you’re about to listen to is my first 3 episodes rolled into one. And I’m going to stitch them together by playing some ads for some non-profits organizations. And at the end of the episode there’s a preview of the new season.
Now many of you have already heard this story, but trust me, even I had to go back and listen to these episodes. Once the season starts, I’m not going to spend a lot setting things up. We’re just going to get right to it.
If you’re new to Pretend Radio, well this is a great place to start.
Let me tell you, it’s pretty crazy. I got deeper into this story than any other journalist. The BBC has tried and failed. The Associated Press tried and they couldn’t get in. Even A&amp;E is producing a documentary on the WOFF and they didn’t get the access I got.
 
So enjoy this flashback episode and revisit The Prophet from season one. And get ready for the season because it’s coming out very soon.
 
 
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>Season 3: The Prophet - Word of Faith Fellowship Revisited</strong></p><p>I’m back with a whole new season of Pretend Radio. But this time it’s going to be a little different. Instead of telling you a different story each episode, I decided to do a serialize season where I tell you a single story, one episode at a time. So what is it about? It’s about the first episode I aired on this show—the Word of Faith Fellowship church.</p><p>Back in season one, I met up with a man who says he escaped the cult. His name is John Cooper. I contacted him and asked "Hey, do you want to meet up? I’m thinking about starting a podcast and would like to tell your story."</p><p>So, we just met up at a park in Chapel Hill, North Carolina. At this point, I didn’t know what this podcast was all about. All I knew was that he was part of a religious sect. And what he told me that day in that park blew my mind. But in the end, I feel like I didn’t do that story justice. It was one guy’s story. I needed to go out to the other side of the state, where the Word of Faith Fellowship is located, and do a little more digging. So, I got in my car and drove west. After I spending the whole day in Spindale, North Carolina, I thought to myself, there is no way I keep everything I just learned in one episode.</p><p>If season one was about John cooper, season 3 is all about the town of Spindale.</p><p>The episode you’re about to listen to is my first 3 episodes rolled into one. And I’m going to stitch them together by playing some ads for some non-profits organizations. And at the end of the episode there’s a preview of the new season.</p><p>Now many of you have already heard this story, but trust me, even I had to go back and listen to these episodes. Once the season starts, I’m not going to spend a lot setting things up. We’re just going to get right to it.</p><p>If you’re new to Pretend Radio, well this is a great place to start.</p><p>Let me tell you, it’s pretty crazy. I got deeper into this story than any other journalist. The BBC has tried and failed. The Associated Press tried and they couldn’t get in. Even A&amp;E is producing a documentary on the WOFF and they didn’t get the access I got.</p><p> </p><p>So enjoy this flashback episode and revisit The Prophet from season one. And get ready for the season because it’s coming out very soon.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S213: The Hijacker, Part 2 - Martin McNally</title>
      <description>Martin McNally needed some cash, so what did he do? He hijacked an American Airlines flight with 90 passengers on board.
If you haven’t listened to part one, check that out first.
Today’s episode, picks up where we last left off. It’s 1972, and Martin McNally just hijacked a plane heading to Tulsa, Oklahoma. His plan was simple… Demand a half a million dollars, jump out of the plane, and disappear into the darkness of night.
After 15 seconds of freefall, McNally pulls the ripcord. He begins to spin out of control. The parachute whips out and blasts him in the face. McNally looks up at the canopy as it pulls him away from the Earth. Then he looks down, and he realizes that the money bag slipped out of his hands.
What now? He’s beat up, he lost all the money, and by the time he reaches the ground, there will be hundreds of FBI agents searching for him. What’s the point? McNally, considers ending it all.
You definitely want to check out the rest of this story.
This story was produced by Chris Knittel with the Burner Phone Podcast and was written and edited by me, Javier Leiva.
LINKS
Chief of Police for Peru Indiana picks up Martin McNally |  New York Times Article
Copter Hijacker Killed by Pilot Had Car With Weapons |  New York Times Article
Garrett Trapnell | Wiki
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      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2018 18:42:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Hijacker, Part 2 - Martin McNally</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Martin McNally needed some cash, so what did he do? He hijacked an American Airlines flight with 90 passengers on board. If you haven’t listened to part one, check that out first. Today’s episode, picks up where we last left off. It’s 1972, and...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Martin McNally needed some cash, so what did he do? He hijacked an American Airlines flight with 90 passengers on board.
If you haven’t listened to part one, check that out first.
Today’s episode, picks up where we last left off. It’s 1972, and Martin McNally just hijacked a plane heading to Tulsa, Oklahoma. His plan was simple… Demand a half a million dollars, jump out of the plane, and disappear into the darkness of night.
After 15 seconds of freefall, McNally pulls the ripcord. He begins to spin out of control. The parachute whips out and blasts him in the face. McNally looks up at the canopy as it pulls him away from the Earth. Then he looks down, and he realizes that the money bag slipped out of his hands.
What now? He’s beat up, he lost all the money, and by the time he reaches the ground, there will be hundreds of FBI agents searching for him. What’s the point? McNally, considers ending it all.
You definitely want to check out the rest of this story.
This story was produced by Chris Knittel with the Burner Phone Podcast and was written and edited by me, Javier Leiva.
LINKS
Chief of Police for Peru Indiana picks up Martin McNally |  New York Times Article
Copter Hijacker Killed by Pilot Had Car With Weapons |  New York Times Article
Garrett Trapnell | Wiki
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        <![CDATA[<h1>Martin McNally needed some cash, so what did he do? He hijacked an American Airlines flight with 90 passengers on board.</h1><p>If you haven’t listened to part one, check that out first.</p><p>Today’s episode, picks up where we last left off. It’s 1972, and Martin McNally just hijacked a plane heading to Tulsa, Oklahoma. His plan was simple… Demand a half a million dollars, jump out of the plane, and disappear into the darkness of night.</p><p>After 15 seconds of freefall, McNally pulls the ripcord. He begins to spin out of control. The parachute whips out and blasts him in the face. McNally looks up at the canopy as it pulls him away from the Earth. Then he looks down, and he realizes that the money bag slipped out of his hands.</p><p>What now? He’s beat up, he lost all the money, and by the time he reaches the ground, there will be hundreds of FBI agents searching for him. What’s the point? McNally, considers ending it all.</p><p>You definitely want to check out the rest of this story.</p><p>This story was produced by Chris Knittel with the Burner Phone Podcast and was written and edited by me, <a href="http://pretendradio.org/about/">Javier Leiva</a>.</p><p>LINKS</p><p>Chief of Police for Peru Indiana picks up Martin McNally | <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1972/06/30/archives/502000-hijacking-laid-to-jobless-man-jobless-man-held-in-airline.html"> New York Times Article</a></p><p>Copter Hijacker Killed by Pilot Had Car With Weapons | <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1978/05/26/archives/copter-hijacker-killed-by-pilot-had-car-with-weapons-searching-for.html"> New York Times Article</a></p><p>Garrett Trapnell | <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garrett_Brock_Trapnell">Wiki</a></p><p>FEATURED PROMO</p><p><a href="http://www.alreadygonepodcast.com">Already Gone</a></p><p><a href="https://www.thefalllinepodcast.com/">Fall Line Podcast</a></p><p>MUSIC</p><p>The Pretend Radio theme song was composed by Joe Basile with <a href="http://THECHICKEN.net">thechicken.net</a></p><p>Additional music by <a href="http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Blue_Dot_Sessions/">Blue Dot Session</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S212: The Hijacker, Part 1 - Martin McNally</title>
      <description>Martin McNally is going to hijack this plane and nobody, not even the FBI, is going to stop him.
 
In today’s episode,  Martin McNally recounts his 1972 hijacking of an American Airlines flight heading to Tulsa, Oklahoma. His plan was simple—sneak a submachine gun onboard a 727 jet, demand a half-million dollars in cash, and escape with a parachute. And he almost got away with it.
  
Martin McNally’s story is gripping and will have you at the edge of your seat. He was inspired by the infamous hijacker D.B. Cooper. But unlike D.B. Cooper, we actually know how McNally’s story ends.
 
As you can imagine, his plan didn’t go smoothly. The pilot had to return to St. Louis to get the mailbags full of money. After hours of negotiations with the FBI, there was a crew change and an FBI agent, dressed as crew members, snuck on board. Then, as the plane was preparing for take off,  a drunk passenger smashed his Cadillac into the nose of the plane.
 
By now, it should have been over. But McNally persisted and demanded a new plane. Once up in the air, McNally jumped into the darkness and disappeared with the cash.
 
This story was produced by Chris Knittel with the Burner Phone Podcast and was written by me, Javier Leiva.
 
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      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2018 04:32:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Hijacker, Part 1 - Martin McNally</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Martin McNally is going to hijack this plane and nobody, not even the FBI, is going to stop him.   In today’s episode,  Martin McNally recounts his 1972 hijacking of an American Airlines flight heading to Tulsa, Oklahoma. His plan was...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Martin McNally is going to hijack this plane and nobody, not even the FBI, is going to stop him.
 
In today’s episode,  Martin McNally recounts his 1972 hijacking of an American Airlines flight heading to Tulsa, Oklahoma. His plan was simple—sneak a submachine gun onboard a 727 jet, demand a half-million dollars in cash, and escape with a parachute. And he almost got away with it.
  
Martin McNally’s story is gripping and will have you at the edge of your seat. He was inspired by the infamous hijacker D.B. Cooper. But unlike D.B. Cooper, we actually know how McNally’s story ends.
 
As you can imagine, his plan didn’t go smoothly. The pilot had to return to St. Louis to get the mailbags full of money. After hours of negotiations with the FBI, there was a crew change and an FBI agent, dressed as crew members, snuck on board. Then, as the plane was preparing for take off,  a drunk passenger smashed his Cadillac into the nose of the plane.
 
By now, it should have been over. But McNally persisted and demanded a new plane. Once up in the air, McNally jumped into the darkness and disappeared with the cash.
 
This story was produced by Chris Knittel with the Burner Phone Podcast and was written by me, Javier Leiva.
 
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        <![CDATA[<h1>Martin McNally is going to hijack this plane and nobody, not even the FBI, is going to stop him.</h1><p> </p><h2>In today’s episode, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1972/06/30/archives/502000-hijacking-laid-to-jobless-man-jobless-man-held-in-airline.html"> Martin McNally</a> recounts his 1972 hijacking of an American Airlines flight heading to Tulsa, Oklahoma. His plan was simple—sneak a submachine gun onboard a 727 jet, demand a half-million dollars in cash, and escape with a parachute. And he almost got away with it.</h2><p>  </p><p>Martin McNally’s story is gripping and will have you at the edge of your seat. He was inspired by the infamous hijacker D.B. Cooper. But unlike <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._B._Cooper">D.B. Cooper</a>, we actually know how McNally’s story ends.</p><p> </p><p>As you can imagine, his plan didn’t go smoothly. The pilot had to return to St. Louis to get the mailbags full of money. After hours of negotiations with the FBI, there was a crew change and an FBI agent, dressed as crew members, snuck on board. Then, as the plane was preparing for take off, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/1973/06/05/archives/driver-who-rammed-an-airliner-is-freed.html"> a drunk passenger smashed his Cadillac</a> into the nose of the plane.</p><p> </p><p>By now, it should have been over. But McNally persisted and demanded a new plane. Once up in the air, McNally jumped into the darkness and disappeared with the cash.</p><p> </p><p>This story was produced by Chris Knittel with the <a href="https://www.burnerphonepodcast.com/">Burner Phone Podcast</a> and was written by me, Javier Leiva.</p><p> </p><p>---</p><p>FEATURED PROMO</p><p> </p><p><a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/oh-no-lit-class/id1201265597?mt=2"> Oh No! Lit Class</a></p><p> </p><p><a href="https://www.orbitaljigsaw.com/podcasts/killafornia-dreaming/">Killafornia Dreaming</a></p><p> </p><p>---</p><p>MUSIC</p><p> </p><p>The Pretend Radio theme song was composed by Joe Basile with <a href="http://thechicken.net/">thechicken.net</a></p><p> </p><p>Additional music by Blue Dot Session</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S211: The Jolly Roger Social Club</title>
      <description>You may remember Sharon McConnell-Dickerson from episode 8 titled “The Sculptor.” You know, the blind artist who casts the faces of dying blues musicians. When we first recorded that episode, she told me a story that quite frankly was hard to believe. It sounded like something out of a movie. In fact, it should be turned into a movie. It’s one of the most sadistic con artist stories I’ve ever heard. And warning, this episode is pretty dark. So if you don’t like that kinda stuff, you’ve been warned.
This is the story of Wild Bill.
 
Wild Bill, who’s real name is William Holbert, had long blonde curly hair and frequently wore a viking helmet. He was 6 feet tall and looked like one of those guys at the gym who’s pumped up on steroids. Wild Bill was also the owner of a Panamanian bar he liked to call the Jolly Rogers Social Club. The bar, which sat off the side of his island property, was a down and dirty watering hole, known for loud parties and the occasional drug use. The decor was simple. Wild Bill flew a flag with skull and bones. And the bar's motto says it all—90% of our members survive.
William Holbert, and his wife Laura Reece, were not only the island bar owners. They also had a keen eye for real estate. The strange thing is, every time they closed a deal, the person selling them the property would disappear.
Sharon McConnell-Dickerson shares with us the story about her friend Bo Icler and the real estate con that ripped them apart. 
 
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To learn more about this story, please check out the book titled, "The Jolly Roger Social Club" by Nick Foster. 
 
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Featured Promos:
Moms and Murder
 The Murder in my Family
 
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Theme music composed by Joe Basile with thechicken.net
Additional music by Poddington Bear
 
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This episode was written and produced by Javier Leiva
 
If you would like to support the show, please leave us a rating on iTunes or donate $1 to our Patreon Page. 
Also, check out our sweet t-shirts. 
 
 
 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2018 04:37:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Jolly Roger Social Club</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>You may remember Sharon McConnell-Dickerson from episode 8 titled “The Sculptor.” You know, the blind artist who casts the faces of dying blues musicians. When we first recorded that episode, she told me a story that quite frankly was hard to...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>You may remember Sharon McConnell-Dickerson from episode 8 titled “The Sculptor.” You know, the blind artist who casts the faces of dying blues musicians. When we first recorded that episode, she told me a story that quite frankly was hard to believe. It sounded like something out of a movie. In fact, it should be turned into a movie. It’s one of the most sadistic con artist stories I’ve ever heard. And warning, this episode is pretty dark. So if you don’t like that kinda stuff, you’ve been warned.
This is the story of Wild Bill.
 
Wild Bill, who’s real name is William Holbert, had long blonde curly hair and frequently wore a viking helmet. He was 6 feet tall and looked like one of those guys at the gym who’s pumped up on steroids. Wild Bill was also the owner of a Panamanian bar he liked to call the Jolly Rogers Social Club. The bar, which sat off the side of his island property, was a down and dirty watering hole, known for loud parties and the occasional drug use. The decor was simple. Wild Bill flew a flag with skull and bones. And the bar's motto says it all—90% of our members survive.
William Holbert, and his wife Laura Reece, were not only the island bar owners. They also had a keen eye for real estate. The strange thing is, every time they closed a deal, the person selling them the property would disappear.
Sharon McConnell-Dickerson shares with us the story about her friend Bo Icler and the real estate con that ripped them apart. 
 
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To learn more about this story, please check out the book titled, "The Jolly Roger Social Club" by Nick Foster. 
 
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Featured Promos:
Moms and Murder
 The Murder in my Family
 
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Theme music composed by Joe Basile with thechicken.net
Additional music by Poddington Bear
 
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This episode was written and produced by Javier Leiva
 
If you would like to support the show, please leave us a rating on iTunes or donate $1 to our Patreon Page. 
Also, check out our sweet t-shirts. 
 
 
 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>You may remember Sharon McConnell-Dickerson from <a href="http://pretendradio.org/sculptor-sharon-mcconnell-dickerson/">episode 8 titled “The Sculptor.”</a> You know, the blind artist who casts the faces of dying blues musicians. When we first recorded that episode, she told me a story that quite frankly was hard to believe. It sounded like something out of a movie. In fact, it should be turned into a movie. It’s one of the most sadistic con artist stories I’ve ever heard. And warning, this episode is pretty dark. So if you don’t like that kinda stuff, you’ve been warned.</p><p>This is the story of Wild Bill.</p><p> </p><p>Wild Bill, who’s real name is William Holbert, had long blonde curly hair and frequently wore a viking helmet. He was 6 feet tall and looked like one of those guys at the gym who’s pumped up on steroids. Wild Bill was also the owner of a Panamanian bar he liked to call the Jolly Rogers Social Club. The bar, which sat off the side of his island property, was a down and dirty watering hole, known for loud parties and the occasional drug use. The decor was simple. Wild Bill flew a flag with skull and bones. And the bar's motto says it all—90% of our members survive.</p><p>William Holbert, and his wife Laura Reece, were not only the island bar owners. They also had a keen eye for real estate. The strange thing is, every time they closed a deal, the person selling them the property would disappear.</p><p>Sharon McConnell-Dickerson shares with us the story about her friend Bo Icler and the real estate con that ripped them apart. </p><p> </p><p>-----</p><p>To learn more about this story, please check out the book titled, "<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Jolly-Roger-Social-Club-Paradise/dp/1627793720">The Jolly Roger Social Club</a>" by Nick Foster. </p><p> </p><p>-----</p><p>Featured Promos:</p><p><a href="http://momsandmurder.com/">Moms and Murder</a></p><p><a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-murder-in-my-family/id1396717244?mt=2"> The Murder in my Family</a></p><p> </p><p>-----</p><p>Theme music composed by Joe Basile with <a href="thechicken.net">thechicken.net</a></p><p>Additional music by Poddington Bear</p><p> </p><p>-----</p><p>This episode was written and produced by Javier Leiva</p><p> </p><p>If you would like to support the show, please leave us a rating on iTunes or donate $1 to our <a href="http://pretendradio.org/donate/">Patreon Page</a>. </p><p>Also, check out our sweet <a href="https://teespring.com/stores/pretend-new-logo">t-shirts</a>. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2275</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Pretend Radio Anniversary Bonus Episode</title>
      <description>Guess what? Pretend Radio turns one year old this month. So I thought it would be cool to replay some old guest interviews I've done on other shows. 
 
(01:00) Generation Why Podcast Interview - I talk about Vester Flanagan, the reporter who murdered the news crew live on television
(14:23) Maurer Glass Podcast Interview - Learn how I find my guests and behind the scenes insights
(30:22) The Live Canary Interview - I traded a story for a beer
 
I'll be back soon with a new episode. In the meantime, spread the word. 
 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2018 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Pretend Radio Anniversary Bonus Episode</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Guess what? Pretend Radio turns one year old this month. So I thought it would be cool to replay some old guest interviews I've done on other shows.    (01:00) Generation Why Podcast Interview - I talk about Vester Flanagan, the reporter who...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Guess what? Pretend Radio turns one year old this month. So I thought it would be cool to replay some old guest interviews I've done on other shows. 
 
(01:00) Generation Why Podcast Interview - I talk about Vester Flanagan, the reporter who murdered the news crew live on television
(14:23) Maurer Glass Podcast Interview - Learn how I find my guests and behind the scenes insights
(30:22) The Live Canary Interview - I traded a story for a beer
 
I'll be back soon with a new episode. In the meantime, spread the word. 
 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Guess what? Pretend Radio turns one year old this month. So I thought it would be cool to replay some old guest interviews I've done on other shows. </p><p> </p><p>(01:00) <a href="http://thegenerationwhypodcast.com/">Generation Why Podcast</a> Interview - I talk about Vester Flanagan, the reporter who murdered the news crew live on television</p><p>(14:23) <a href="https://www.maurerglass.com/">Maurer Glass Podcast</a> Interview - Learn how I find my guests and behind the scenes insights</p><p>(30:22) <a href="http://www.thelivecanary.com/">The Live Canary</a> Interview - I traded a story for a beer</p><p> </p><p>I'll be back soon with a new episode. In the meantime, spread the word. </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S210: The Babalawo - Secrets of Santeria</title>
      <description>Today's episode "The Babalawo" is about Santeria… the faith, not the song.

Unlike the pop tune, not a lot of people know about this mysterious religion. Santería, also known as Regla de Ochá, La Regla de Ifá, or Lucumí, is an Afro-Cuban religion that means the worship of saints.

So, you maybe asking yourself, “Javier, where’s the pretend angle here?” Well, this religion in particular gives me the heebie jeebies. I feel like people visit these Santeria priests like if they’re fortune tellers. Are they just taking advantage of people’s emotions or am I discriminating on this faith? Spoiler alert… I’m pretty sure I’m discriminating against their faith.

But, I’m better than that right? Are my fears real or is this just a bunch of urban legends? Well, there’s only one way to find out. I need to travel to my hometown of Miami and embed myself in the Santeria community. 

First, I had to find a babalawo. What’s a babalawo? A babalawo is a Santeria priest who acts as a medium channeling the prophecy from the Orishas. Orishas are spirits who are a manifestation of the supreme God Olodumare. In this episode, we’ll get into the history and origins of Santeria. I also talk with a Santeria priest and priestess to learn more about their secret rituals.



-----LIES, LIES, LIES-----

Has someone ever lied to you? Have you ever lied to protect someone else? Send me your personal story and I'll post it on my Patreon channel. 

https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio



If you'd like to submit a story, leave me a voicemail at 919-867-1871 or record your story on your smart phone's voice memo app and email it to me at javier@pretendradio.org. 

-----MUSIC-----

Theme Music composed by Joe Basile from The Chicken Music and Sound Design. Find out more about Joe and The Chicken at www.thechicken.net

Additional music by Podington Bear

-----PROMOS-----

Promos by:

Beyond Bizarre Podcast
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2018 03:56:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Babalawo - Secrets of Santeria</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Today's episode "The Babalawo" is about Santeria… the faith, not the song. Unlike the pop tune, not a lot of people know about this mysterious religion. Santería, also known as Regla de Ochá, La Regla de Ifá, or Lucumí, is an Afro-Cuban religion...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Today's episode "The Babalawo" is about Santeria… the faith, not the song.

Unlike the pop tune, not a lot of people know about this mysterious religion. Santería, also known as Regla de Ochá, La Regla de Ifá, or Lucumí, is an Afro-Cuban religion that means the worship of saints.

So, you maybe asking yourself, “Javier, where’s the pretend angle here?” Well, this religion in particular gives me the heebie jeebies. I feel like people visit these Santeria priests like if they’re fortune tellers. Are they just taking advantage of people’s emotions or am I discriminating on this faith? Spoiler alert… I’m pretty sure I’m discriminating against their faith.

But, I’m better than that right? Are my fears real or is this just a bunch of urban legends? Well, there’s only one way to find out. I need to travel to my hometown of Miami and embed myself in the Santeria community. 

First, I had to find a babalawo. What’s a babalawo? A babalawo is a Santeria priest who acts as a medium channeling the prophecy from the Orishas. Orishas are spirits who are a manifestation of the supreme God Olodumare. In this episode, we’ll get into the history and origins of Santeria. I also talk with a Santeria priest and priestess to learn more about their secret rituals.



-----LIES, LIES, LIES-----

Has someone ever lied to you? Have you ever lied to protect someone else? Send me your personal story and I'll post it on my Patreon channel. 

https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio



If you'd like to submit a story, leave me a voicemail at 919-867-1871 or record your story on your smart phone's voice memo app and email it to me at javier@pretendradio.org. 

-----MUSIC-----

Theme Music composed by Joe Basile from The Chicken Music and Sound Design. Find out more about Joe and The Chicken at www.thechicken.net

Additional music by Podington Bear

-----PROMOS-----

Promos by:

Beyond Bizarre Podcast
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<h1>Today's episode "The Babalawo" is about Santeria… the faith, not the song.</h1><p><br></p><p><strong>Unlike the pop tune, not a lot of people know about this mysterious religion. Santería, also known as Regla de Ochá, La Regla de </strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If%C3%A1"><strong>Ifá</strong></a><strong>, or Lucumí, is an Afro-Cuban religion that means the worship of saints.</strong></p><p><br></p><p>So, you maybe asking yourself, “Javier, where’s the pretend angle here?” Well, this religion in particular gives me the heebie jeebies. I feel like people visit these Santeria priests like if they’re fortune tellers. Are they just taking advantage of people’s emotions or am I discriminating on this faith? Spoiler alert… I’m pretty sure I’m discriminating against their faith.</p><p><br></p><p>But, I’m better than that right? Are my fears real or is this just a bunch of urban legends? Well, there’s only one way to find out. I need to travel to my hometown of Miami and embed myself in the Santeria community. </p><p><br></p><p>First, I had to find a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babalawo">babalawo</a>. What’s a babalawo? A babalawo is a Santeria priest who acts as a medium channeling the prophecy from the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orisha">Orishas</a>. Orishas are spirits who are a manifestation of the supreme God Olodumare. In this episode, we’ll get into the history and origins of Santeria. I also talk with a Santeria priest and priestess to learn more about their secret rituals.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>-----LIES, LIES, LIES-----</p><p><br></p><p>Has someone ever lied to you? Have you ever lied to protect someone else? Send me your personal story and I'll post it on my Patreon channel. </p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio">https://www.patreon.com/pretendradio</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>If you'd like to submit a story, leave me a voicemail at <a href="tel:919-867-1871">919-867-1871</a> or record your story on your smart phone's voice memo app and email it to me at <a href="mailto:javier@pretendradio.org">javier@pretendradio.org</a>. </p><p><br></p><p>-----MUSIC-----</p><p><br></p><p>Theme Music composed by Joe Basile from The Chicken Music and Sound Design. Find out more about Joe and The Chicken at <a href="http://www.thechicken.net/">www.thechicken.net</a></p><p><br></p><p>Additional music by <a href="http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Podington_Bear/">Podington Bear</a></p><p><br></p><p>-----PROMOS-----</p><p><br></p><p>Promos by:</p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.beyondbizarretruecrime.com/">Beyond Bizarre Podcast</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>S209: The Good Cop, Bad Cop</title>
      <description>How does a good cop turn bad? For Ruben Palomares, a former corrupt LAPD Rampart division officer, the process was slow. He went from receiving LAPD’s highest honor to becoming one of the most corrupt cops in US history.
Officer Palomares’ story begins with his first undercover assignment. In the late 1980s there was this show called 21 Jump Street. Johnny Depp starred in it. It was about undercover cops, who pretended to be students, in order to bust drug dealers in schools.
But did you know that back in the 1994, the Los Angeles police department juvenile narcotics unit actually recruited young officers to infiltrate classrooms in order to investigate drug dealers? They couldn’t just get any cop to fill this undercover role. They needed a fresh face who could blend in with the students. So, they approached officer Ruben Palomares.
In 1995, Ruben Palomares got transferred to LAPD’s Rampart Division where he continued to work undercover cases. He was specifically assigned to the anti-gang unit called CRASH. CRASH is an acronym for the Community Resources Against Street Hoodlums. This is when Ruben’s fate will be decided.
-----BURNER PHONE PODCAST-----
You can find Burner Phone Podcast on Apple Podcast and Twitter.
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Theme Music composed by Joe Basile from The Chicken Music and Sound Design. Find out more about Joe and The Chicken at www.thechicken.net
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2018 03:33:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Good Cop, Bad Cop</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>How does a good cop turn bad? For Ruben Palomares, a former corrupt LAPD Rampart division officer, the process was slow. He went from receiving LAPD’s highest honor to becoming one of the most corrupt cops in US history.   Officer Palomares’...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>How does a good cop turn bad? For Ruben Palomares, a former corrupt LAPD Rampart division officer, the process was slow. He went from receiving LAPD’s highest honor to becoming one of the most corrupt cops in US history.
Officer Palomares’ story begins with his first undercover assignment. In the late 1980s there was this show called 21 Jump Street. Johnny Depp starred in it. It was about undercover cops, who pretended to be students, in order to bust drug dealers in schools.
But did you know that back in the 1994, the Los Angeles police department juvenile narcotics unit actually recruited young officers to infiltrate classrooms in order to investigate drug dealers? They couldn’t just get any cop to fill this undercover role. They needed a fresh face who could blend in with the students. So, they approached officer Ruben Palomares.
In 1995, Ruben Palomares got transferred to LAPD’s Rampart Division where he continued to work undercover cases. He was specifically assigned to the anti-gang unit called CRASH. CRASH is an acronym for the Community Resources Against Street Hoodlums. This is when Ruben’s fate will be decided.
-----BURNER PHONE PODCAST-----
You can find Burner Phone Podcast on Apple Podcast and Twitter.
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Theme Music composed by Joe Basile from The Chicken Music and Sound Design. Find out more about Joe and The Chicken at www.thechicken.net
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        <![CDATA[<p>How does a good cop turn bad? For Ruben Palomares, a former corrupt LAPD Rampart division officer, the process was slow. He went from receiving LAPD’s highest honor to becoming one of the most corrupt cops in US history.</p><p>Officer Palomares’ story begins with his first undercover assignment. In the late 1980s there was this show called <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/21_Jump_Street">21 Jump Street</a>. Johnny Depp starred in it. It was about undercover cops, who pretended to be students, in order to bust drug dealers in schools.</p><p>But did you know that back in the 1994, the Los Angeles police department juvenile narcotics unit actually recruited young officers to infiltrate classrooms in order to investigate drug dealers? They couldn’t just get any cop to fill this undercover role. They needed a fresh face who could blend in with the students. So, they approached officer Ruben Palomares.</p><p>In 1995, Ruben Palomares got transferred to LAPD’s Rampart Division where he continued to work undercover cases. He was specifically assigned to the anti-gang unit called CRASH. CRASH is an acronym for the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Resources_Against_Street_Hoodlums">Community Resources Against Street Hoodlums</a>. This is when Ruben’s fate will be decided.</p><p>-----BURNER PHONE PODCAST-----</p><p>You can find Burner Phone Podcast on <a href="https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/burner-phone-podcast/id1324740400?mt=2">Apple Podcast</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/BurnerPpodcast">Twitter</a>.</p><p>-----MUSIC-----</p><p>Theme Music composed by Joe Basile from The Chicken Music and Sound Design. Find out more about Joe and The Chicken at <a href="http://www.thechicken.net/">www.thechicken.net</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2379</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S208: The Stranger </title>
      <description>A lie is only powerful if you choose to believe it. So why do we fall for it every time? In this episode, we’ll hear four different stories. Each describes a tall tale, so persistent, that it’s hard to imagine someone keeping all the lies straight in their head.
 
Each one of these stories reminds me of the movie The Truman Show. It seems like everyone I spoke with lived in a world carefully created just for them.
 
Now it’s time to ask you. Have you ever been lied to? Or have you ever told a lie in order to do the right thing? I invite you to share your story on Pretend Radio. If selected, your story will be featured as bonus content on our Patreon channel. Patreon is a way that you can support the show. And who knows, your story could be featured on the main show.
 
If you would like to share your story, record your story using your smartphone voice recording app and email your audio to javier@pretendradio.org. Or leave me a voice mail at (919) 867-1871. Please try to keep your story under 10 minutes.
 
Don’t forget to leave me your name and a way to contact you.
 
I can’t wait to listen to your stories.
 
Theme Music composed by Joe Basile from The Chicken Music and Sound Design. Find out more about Joe and The Chicken at www.thechicken.net
 
Additional music by:
Podington Bear - Bambi
Podington Bear - Twosome
Podington Bear - Bumble
Podington Bear - Suppose it is
 Thank you to Steven Pacheco with the Trace Evidence Podcast and Nicki T with the Strictly Homicide Podcast for partnering with me on this episode. And I’d love to thank Carly Nichols and Andrea Hill for listening and taking the time to talk with me.
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      <pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2018 02:58:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Stranger </itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>A lie is only powerful if you choose to believe it. So why do we fall for it every time? In this episode, we’ll hear four different stories. Each describes a tall tale, so persistent, that it’s hard to imagine someone keeping all the lies straight...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>A lie is only powerful if you choose to believe it. So why do we fall for it every time? In this episode, we’ll hear four different stories. Each describes a tall tale, so persistent, that it’s hard to imagine someone keeping all the lies straight in their head.
 
Each one of these stories reminds me of the movie The Truman Show. It seems like everyone I spoke with lived in a world carefully created just for them.
 
Now it’s time to ask you. Have you ever been lied to? Or have you ever told a lie in order to do the right thing? I invite you to share your story on Pretend Radio. If selected, your story will be featured as bonus content on our Patreon channel. Patreon is a way that you can support the show. And who knows, your story could be featured on the main show.
 
If you would like to share your story, record your story using your smartphone voice recording app and email your audio to javier@pretendradio.org. Or leave me a voice mail at (919) 867-1871. Please try to keep your story under 10 minutes.
 
Don’t forget to leave me your name and a way to contact you.
 
I can’t wait to listen to your stories.
 
Theme Music composed by Joe Basile from The Chicken Music and Sound Design. Find out more about Joe and The Chicken at www.thechicken.net
 
Additional music by:
Podington Bear - Bambi
Podington Bear - Twosome
Podington Bear - Bumble
Podington Bear - Suppose it is
 Thank you to Steven Pacheco with the Trace Evidence Podcast and Nicki T with the Strictly Homicide Podcast for partnering with me on this episode. And I’d love to thank Carly Nichols and Andrea Hill for listening and taking the time to talk with me.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>A lie is only powerful if you choose to believe it. So why do we fall for it every time? In this episode, we’ll hear four different stories. Each describes a tall tale, so persistent, that it’s hard to imagine someone keeping all the lies straight in their head.</p><p> </p><p>Each one of these stories reminds me of the movie The Truman Show. It seems like everyone I spoke with lived in a world carefully created just for them.</p><p> </p><p>Now it’s time to ask you. Have you ever been lied to? Or have you ever told a lie in order to do the right thing? I invite you to share your story on Pretend Radio. If selected, your story will be featured as bonus content on our Patreon channel. Patreon is a way that you can support the show. And who knows, your story could be featured on the main show.</p><p> </p><p>If you would like to share your story, record your story using your smartphone voice recording app and email your audio to javier@pretendradio.org. Or leave me a voice mail at (919) 867-1871. Please try to keep your story under 10 minutes.</p><p> </p><p>Don’t forget to leave me your name and a way to contact you.</p><p> </p><p>I can’t wait to listen to your stories.</p><p> </p><p>Theme Music composed by Joe Basile from The Chicken Music and Sound Design. Find out more about Joe and The Chicken at <a href="http://www.thechicken.net/">www.thechicken.net</a></p><p> </p><p>Additional music by:</p><p>Podington Bear - Bambi</p><p>Podington Bear - Twosome</p><p>Podington Bear - Bumble</p><p>Podington Bear - Suppose it is</p><p> Thank you to Steven Pacheco with the <a href="https://www.trace-evidence.com/">Trace Evidence Podcast</a> and Nicki T with the <a href="https://strictlyhomicide.podbean.com/">Strictly Homicide Podcast</a> for partnering with me on this episode. And I’d love to thank Carly Nichols and Andrea Hill for listening and taking the time to talk with me.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2052</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S207: The Gambler Part 2 - Art Schlichter </title>
      <description>Previously on Pretend Radio, we learned how Art Schlichter’s gambling habits destroyed Anita Barney life. She went from being the wealthy widow of a Wendy’s CEO to becoming broke and struggling to pay her light bill. In part two of The Gambler, we’re going to talk about how Anita went from being Art Schlichter’s victim to his accomplice. You can find Anita Barney's memoir titled "Quarterback Sneak: Exposing the Criminal Game Plan of Art Schlichter" on Amazon.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2018 12:02:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Gambler Part 2 - Art Schlichter </itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Previously on Pretend Radio, we learned how Art Schlichter’s gambling habits destroyed Anita Barney life. She went from being the wealthy widow of a Wendy’s CEO to becoming broke and struggling to pay her light bill.   It started out with a...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Previously on Pretend Radio, we learned how Art Schlichter’s gambling habits destroyed Anita Barney life. She went from being the wealthy widow of a Wendy’s CEO to becoming broke and struggling to pay her light bill. In part two of The Gambler, we’re going to talk about how Anita went from being Art Schlichter’s victim to his accomplice. You can find Anita Barney's memoir titled "Quarterback Sneak: Exposing the Criminal Game Plan of Art Schlichter" on Amazon.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Previously on Pretend Radio, we learned how Art Schlichter’s gambling habits destroyed Anita Barney life. She went from being the wealthy widow of a Wendy’s CEO to becoming broke and struggling to pay her light bill. In part two of The Gambler, we’re going to talk about how Anita went from being Art Schlichter’s victim to his accomplice. You can find Anita Barney's memoir titled "Quarterback Sneak: Exposing the Criminal Game Plan of Art Schlichter" on Amazon.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1264</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S206: The Gambler Part 1 - Art Schlichter</title>
      <description>This is the story of disgraced Ohio State quarterback Art Schlichter.

In order to understand Art Schlichter’s crimes, you first have to understand how his story ends. Anita Barney, heiress and widow of a former Wendy’s CEO, lost every single penny her husband left her. 

Art Schlichter and Anita Barney

How did it happen? Art Schlichter gambled away her entire fortune. 





This episode was written and produced by Javier Leiva

Music by:

Cylinder Eight by Chris Zabriskie

Careless Morning, Bivly, Pxl Eventuat, Pxl Cray, Pxl Ultra by Blue Dot Sessions

Bittersweet, Pounded Piano by Podington Bear

No More Trap by Audiobinger


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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2018 00:31:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Gambler Part 1 - Art Schlichter</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This is the story of disgraced Ohio State quarterback Art Schlichter. In order to understand Art Schlichter’s crimes, you first have to understand how his story ends. Anita Barney, heiress and widow of a former Wendy’s CEO, lost every single penny...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This is the story of disgraced Ohio State quarterback Art Schlichter.

In order to understand Art Schlichter’s crimes, you first have to understand how his story ends. Anita Barney, heiress and widow of a former Wendy’s CEO, lost every single penny her husband left her. 

Art Schlichter and Anita Barney

How did it happen? Art Schlichter gambled away her entire fortune. 





This episode was written and produced by Javier Leiva

Music by:

Cylinder Eight by Chris Zabriskie

Careless Morning, Bivly, Pxl Eventuat, Pxl Cray, Pxl Ultra by Blue Dot Sessions

Bittersweet, Pounded Piano by Podington Bear

No More Trap by Audiobinger


Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<h1>This is the story of disgraced Ohio State quarterback Art Schlichter.</h1><p><br></p><p><strong>In order to understand </strong><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Schlichter#2011_arrest"><strong>Art Schlichter</strong></a><strong>’s crimes, you first have to understand how his story ends. Anita Barney, heiress and widow of a former Wendy’s CEO, lost every single penny her husband left her. </strong></p><p><br></p><p>Art Schlichter and Anita Barney</p><p><br></p><p>How did it happen? Art Schlichter gambled away her entire fortune. </p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>This episode was written and produced by <a href="http://pretendradio.org/contact-us/">Javier Leiva</a></p><p><br></p><p>Music by:</p><p><br></p><p>Cylinder Eight by <a href="http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Chris_Zabriskie/">Chris Zabriskie</a></p><p><br></p><p>Careless Morning, Bivly, Pxl Eventuat, Pxl Cray, Pxl Ultra by <a href="http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Blue_Dot_Sessions/">Blue Dot Sessions</a></p><p><br></p><p>Bittersweet, Pounded Piano by <a href="http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Podington_Bear/">Podington Bear</a></p><p><br></p><p>No More Trap by <a href="http://freemusicarchive.org/music/Audiobinger/">Audiobinger</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1276</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S205: The Reporter - Vester Flanagan</title>
      <description>Warning, this episode may be disturbing for some listeners. It describes a shooting that resulted in the death of two people. While this story is not technically about a mass shooting, it has every characteristic of one. This is the story of Bryce Williams, the reporter who murdered Alison Parker and Adam Ward live on television. It turns out Bryce Williams is not his real name. Bryce Williams is just a pseudonym for his on air personality. The killer’s real name is Vester Flanagan. 
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      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2018 05:22:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Reporter - Vester Flanagan</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Warning, this episode may be disturbing for some listeners. It describes a shooting that resulted in the death of two people. While this story is not technically about a mass shooting, it has every characteristic of one.   I began working on this...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Warning, this episode may be disturbing for some listeners. It describes a shooting that resulted in the death of two people. While this story is not technically about a mass shooting, it has every characteristic of one. This is the story of Bryce Williams, the reporter who murdered Alison Parker and Adam Ward live on television. It turns out Bryce Williams is not his real name. Bryce Williams is just a pseudonym for his on air personality. The killer’s real name is Vester Flanagan. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Warning, this episode may be disturbing for some listeners. It describes a shooting that resulted in the death of two people. While this story is not technically about a mass shooting, it has every characteristic of one. This is the story of Bryce Williams, the reporter who murdered Alison Parker and Adam Ward live on television. It turns out Bryce Williams is not his real name. Bryce Williams is just a pseudonym for his on air personality. The killer’s real name is Vester Flanagan. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1679</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S204: The Taker</title>
      <description>Karl comes from a long line of con men. He says both his grandfather and father were swindlers. It's only natural that Karl slipped into the family business.
In today's episode, Karl talks about bribing corrupt company building managers. He says he sold them cheap light bulbs, trash can liners, and cleaning supplies at a premium price. In exchange for buying overpriced products, Karl would send these building managers gifts and cash. 

He made lots of money working as a B2B telemarketer. He eventually started his own company doing the same scheme. Karl admits that what he was doing was unethical, but surely it wasn't illegal. Finally, he got his answer when the FBI and the Postal Inspector's office showed with a subpoena.

Jerri Williams, the FBI agent who busted him, says she could have locked him up right then and there—but she had bigger plans for Karl.



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Special thanks to Jerri Williams for contributing her episode titled, "Karl LNU."



This episode was written and produced by Javier Leiva and Jerri Williams.



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You can learn more about Jerri Williams at jerriwilliams.com

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This episode includes promos from the following independent podcasts:

-Maurer Glass Podcast

-The Breakers Podcast
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      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Feb 2018 18:17:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Taker</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Karl comes from a long line of con men. He says both his grandfather and father were swindlers. It's only natural that Karl slipped into the family business. In today's episode, Karl talks about bribing corrupt company building managers. He says he...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Karl comes from a long line of con men. He says both his grandfather and father were swindlers. It's only natural that Karl slipped into the family business.
In today's episode, Karl talks about bribing corrupt company building managers. He says he sold them cheap light bulbs, trash can liners, and cleaning supplies at a premium price. In exchange for buying overpriced products, Karl would send these building managers gifts and cash. 

He made lots of money working as a B2B telemarketer. He eventually started his own company doing the same scheme. Karl admits that what he was doing was unethical, but surely it wasn't illegal. Finally, he got his answer when the FBI and the Postal Inspector's office showed with a subpoena.

Jerri Williams, the FBI agent who busted him, says she could have locked him up right then and there—but she had bigger plans for Karl.



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Special thanks to Jerri Williams for contributing her episode titled, "Karl LNU."



This episode was written and produced by Javier Leiva and Jerri Williams.



Subscribe to Pretend Radio:

Apple Podcasts:
tiny.cc/PretendApplePodcast

Google Play:
tiny.cc/PretendGooglePlay

 http://jerriwilliams.com/cooperating-witness-telemarketing-fraud/

You can learn more about Jerri Williams at jerriwilliams.com

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This episode includes promos from the following independent podcasts:

-Maurer Glass Podcast

-The Breakers Podcast
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        <![CDATA[<h1>Karl comes from a long line of con men. He says both his grandfather and father were swindlers. It's only natural that Karl slipped into the family business.</h1><p>In today's episode, Karl talks about bribing corrupt company building managers. He says he sold them cheap light bulbs, trash can liners, and cleaning supplies at a premium price. In exchange for buying overpriced products, Karl would send these building managers gifts and cash. </p><p><br></p><p>He made lots of money working as a B2B telemarketer. He eventually started his own company doing the same scheme. Karl admits that what he was doing was unethical, but surely it wasn't illegal. Finally, he got his answer when the FBI and the Postal Inspector's office showed with a subpoena.</p><p><br></p><p>Jerri Williams, the FBI agent who busted him, says she could have locked him up right then and there—but she had bigger plans for Karl.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>----</p><p><br></p><p>Special thanks to Jerri Williams for contributing her episode titled, "<a href="http://jerriwilliams.com/cooperating-witness-telemarketing-fraud/">Karl LNU</a>."</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>This episode was written and produced by Javier Leiva and Jerri Williams.</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Subscribe to Pretend Radio:</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Apple Podcasts:</strong></p><p><a href="https://exit.sc/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftiny.cc%2FPretendApplePodcast">tiny.cc/PretendApplePodcast</a></p><p><br></p><p><strong>Google Play:</strong></p><p><a href="https://exit.sc/?url=http%3A%2F%2Ftiny.cc%2FPretendGooglePlay">tiny.cc/PretendGooglePlay</a></p><p><br></p><p> http://jerriwilliams.com/cooperating-witness-telemarketing-fraud/</p><p><br></p><p>You can learn more about Jerri Williams at jerriwilliams.com</p><p><br></p><p>---</p><p><br></p><p>This episode includes promos from the following independent podcasts:</p><p><br></p><p><a href="https://www.maurerglass.com/">-Maurer Glass Podcast</a></p><p><br></p><p>-<a href="http://www.breakerspodcast.libsyn.com">The Breakers Podcast</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1598</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S203: The Boy and the Girl</title>
      <description>Candis Cox and her husband Adam live in North Carolina. This is their love story. Their story is unremarkable in many ways. They met at a bar, went on a date, and eventually married after years of dating. What makes this story special is listening to them retell it. But love doesn’t come without sacrifice. This is a story about being your true self, even when the world is making you pretend to be someone else. The boy and the girl was written and produced by Javier Leiva and Wendy Gatlin.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2018 04:23:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Boy and the Girl</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Candis Cox and her husband Adam live in Raleigh, North Carolina. This is their love story. How did I find them? I’m glad you asked. I told my friend Wendy I was looking for a couple profile. She said, “Hang tight. I have the perfect couple for...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Candis Cox and her husband Adam live in North Carolina. This is their love story. Their story is unremarkable in many ways. They met at a bar, went on a date, and eventually married after years of dating. What makes this story special is listening to them retell it. But love doesn’t come without sacrifice. This is a story about being your true self, even when the world is making you pretend to be someone else. The boy and the girl was written and produced by Javier Leiva and Wendy Gatlin.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Candis Cox and her husband Adam live in North Carolina. This is their love story. Their story is unremarkable in many ways. They met at a bar, went on a date, and eventually married after years of dating. What makes this story special is listening to them retell it. But love doesn’t come without sacrifice. This is a story about being your true self, even when the world is making you pretend to be someone else. The boy and the girl was written and produced by Javier Leiva and Wendy Gatlin.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>1232</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S202: The Snake Oil Salesman Part 2 - Curing Autism</title>
      <description>Last time, I spoke with a group of women who drink a bleach-type chemical that they claim cures everything from cancer to depression. I soon discovered that parents are forcefully giving bleach enemas to kids with autism. In this episode, I interview Kerri Rivera, the woman leading this movement, and find out why she thinks this chlorine dioxide treatment is the cure for autism. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2018 04:59:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Snake Oil Salesman Part 2 - Curing Autism</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Last time on Pretend Radio, I spoke with a group of women who drink a bleach-type chemical that they claim cures everything from cancer to depression.  I soon found out that parents are forcefully giving bleach enemas to kids with autism. As a...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Last time, I spoke with a group of women who drink a bleach-type chemical that they claim cures everything from cancer to depression. I soon discovered that parents are forcefully giving bleach enemas to kids with autism. In this episode, I interview Kerri Rivera, the woman leading this movement, and find out why she thinks this chlorine dioxide treatment is the cure for autism. 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Last time, I spoke with a group of women who drink a bleach-type chemical that they claim cures everything from cancer to depression. I soon discovered that parents are forcefully giving bleach enemas to kids with autism. In this episode, I interview Kerri Rivera, the woman leading this movement, and find out why she thinks this chlorine dioxide treatment is the cure for autism. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>1606</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S201: The Snake Oil Salesman Part 1 - Curing cancer &amp; depression</title>
      <description>I stumbled upon a group of people who self-medicate with chlorine dioxide, a bleach like substance. They claim it cures everything from headaches, malaria, HIV, &amp; cancer. In this episode, you'll hear from the man who discovered the "miracle cure" and from the people who take it. Thanks to Chris Cogswell w/ the Mad Scientist Podcast &amp; Dr. Zuckerman with the TOXnow Podcast. toxnow.org/ themadscientistpodcast.com/ The Disgraceland Podcast disgracelandpod.libsyn.com/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2018 04:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Snake Oil Salesman Part 1 - Curing cancer &amp; depression</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>I stumbled upon a group of people who self-medicate with chlorine dioxide, a bleach-like substance. They claim it cures everything from  headaches, lyme disease, malaria, HIV, hepatitis, and cancer.  When I first discovered this trend, I...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>I stumbled upon a group of people who self-medicate with chlorine dioxide, a bleach like substance. They claim it cures everything from headaches, malaria, HIV, &amp; cancer. In this episode, you'll hear from the man who discovered the "miracle cure" and from the people who take it. Thanks to Chris Cogswell w/ the Mad Scientist Podcast &amp; Dr. Zuckerman with the TOXnow Podcast. toxnow.org/ themadscientistpodcast.com/ The Disgraceland Podcast disgracelandpod.libsyn.com/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>I stumbled upon a group of people who self-medicate with chlorine dioxide, a bleach like substance. They claim it cures everything from headaches, malaria, HIV, &amp; cancer. In this episode, you'll hear from the man who discovered the "miracle cure" and from the people who take it. Thanks to Chris Cogswell w/ the Mad Scientist Podcast &amp; Dr. Zuckerman with the TOXnow Podcast. toxnow.org/ themadscientistpodcast.com/ The Disgraceland Podcast disgracelandpod.libsyn.com/</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>1519</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S111: The Bigamist</title>
      <link>https://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>Mary Turner Thomas says she married a bigamist. She claims her husband, William Allen Jordan, was involved with 8 different women and fathered 13 kids. At one point, he had two wives, two fiances and a girlfriend on both sides of the Atlantic. William Allen Jordan and Mary Turner Thomson How in the world did Mary not know about these other relationships? How can one man pull off a con this big? It's easy to dismiss Mary as being naive. However, William Jordan was a skilled con man. Once you listen to how they met, and fell in love, it's easy to understand how he could steal her heart. Little did she know he will eventually steal much more than that. Mary says that William conned her out of £200,000. How did he do it? He led her to believe that he was a contractor for the CIA and terrorist were holding his family for ransom. As unbelievable as this sounds, he crafted evidence to back up his claims. Listen to Mary Turner Thomas describe the tactics he used to con her and learn how he finally got caught. This story was originally reported by my friend Lanie Hobbs at the True Crime Fan Club. I highly recommend you check out their show.
You can find Mary’s book titled The Bigamist on Amazon:
https://amzn.to/3uI9OkS

She is also on Twitter: http://twitter.com/TheBigamistBook or at http://maryturnerthomson.com/book-inner
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Bigamist</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Mary Turner Thomas says she married a bigamist.…</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Mary Turner Thomas says she married a bigamist. She claims her husband, William Allen Jordan, was involved with 8 different women and fathered 13 kids. At one point, he had two wives, two fiances and a girlfriend on both sides of the Atlantic. William Allen Jordan and Mary Turner Thomson How in the world did Mary not know about these other relationships? How can one man pull off a con this big? It's easy to dismiss Mary as being naive. However, William Jordan was a skilled con man. Once you listen to how they met, and fell in love, it's easy to understand how he could steal her heart. Little did she know he will eventually steal much more than that. Mary says that William conned her out of £200,000. How did he do it? He led her to believe that he was a contractor for the CIA and terrorist were holding his family for ransom. As unbelievable as this sounds, he crafted evidence to back up his claims. Listen to Mary Turner Thomas describe the tactics he used to con her and learn how he finally got caught. This story was originally reported by my friend Lanie Hobbs at the True Crime Fan Club. I highly recommend you check out their show.
You can find Mary’s book titled The Bigamist on Amazon:
https://amzn.to/3uI9OkS

She is also on Twitter: http://twitter.com/TheBigamistBook or at http://maryturnerthomson.com/book-inner
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Mary Turner Thomas says she married a bigamist. She claims her husband, William Allen Jordan, was involved with 8 different women and fathered 13 kids. At one point, he had two wives, two fiances and a girlfriend on both sides of the Atlantic. William Allen Jordan and Mary Turner Thomson How in the world did Mary not know about these other relationships? How can one man pull off a con this big? It's easy to dismiss Mary as being naive. However, William Jordan was a skilled con man. Once you listen to how they met, and fell in love, it's easy to understand how he could steal her heart. Little did she know he will eventually steal much more than that. Mary says that William conned her out of £200,000. How did he do it? He led her to believe that he was a contractor for the CIA and terrorist were holding his family for ransom. As unbelievable as this sounds, he crafted evidence to back up his claims. Listen to Mary Turner Thomas describe the tactics he used to con her and learn how he finally got caught. This story was originally reported by my friend Lanie Hobbs at the True Crime Fan Club. I highly recommend you check out their show.</p><p>You can find Mary’s book titled The Bigamist on Amazon:</p><p>https://amzn.to/3uI9OkS</p><p><br></p><p>She is also on Twitter: http://twitter.com/TheBigamistBook or at http://maryturnerthomson.com/book-inner</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1997</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S110: The Pretender Part 2 - Undercover FBI Agent Marc Ruskin</title>
      <description>The Pretender - Marc Ruskin FBI undercover agent Remember the name Marc Ruskin: because if you run into him, chances are he will introduce himself as Alex Perez, H. Marc Renard, or Sal Morelli – just a few of his FBI undercover personas. Marc Ruskin started his career as an assistant DA in Brooklyn and left it all behind to join the FBI Academy. It didn’t take him long to become an FBI undercover agent. His first big undercover case landed him in Wall Street busting up trading scams. That case went down in flames when a former colleague recognized his true identity and blew his cover. His next assignments proved to be much more dangerous. Marc embedded himself with mobsters, corrupt public officials, terrorists, and powerful drug dealers. Of course, we can’t cover his entire 27 year career here on this podcast. For that you’ll need to check out his new book titled “The Pretender.” It’s a great read. What we will do is talk about a few cases that were so intense, it had me grip the book so tight that I almost fused the pages together. Marc Ruskin’s next assignment was to bust up a fraudulent documents scheme in New York City. I'm not talking about fake IDs – there’s a difference. These fraudulent IDs are the real thing. If a police runs a fraudulent driver’s license, it actually checks out in their database. Marc told me terrorists, mob guys, fugitives were being arrested and had all kinds of real documents in their wallets under fake names. The FBI didn't have any leads. First, they had to find the source of these fraudulent documents. Marc says that some of these fraudulent driver’s licenses were selling for as much as a thousand dollars on the streets. It wasn’t until a tip from a twenty-something-year old man named John Sultan that led the FBI to a shabby travel agency in the Bronx called Holy Land Travel. The travel agency was a front led by Palestinian immigrant named Mahmoud Noubani.

The Pretender Marc Ruskin FBI Undercover You can find The Pretender on Amazon.com or at your local bookstore. Also a special thanks out to St. Martin’s Press for letting me share Marc’s story with you.
Buy the book on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3dRXbgl 
You can also follow Marc Ruskin on Twitter https://twitter.com/mhruskin
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2017 00:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Pretender Part 2 - Undercover FBI Agent Marc Ruskin</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>The Pretender - Marc Ruskin FBI undercover agent…</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The Pretender - Marc Ruskin FBI undercover agent Remember the name Marc Ruskin: because if you run into him, chances are he will introduce himself as Alex Perez, H. Marc Renard, or Sal Morelli – just a few of his FBI undercover personas. Marc Ruskin started his career as an assistant DA in Brooklyn and left it all behind to join the FBI Academy. It didn’t take him long to become an FBI undercover agent. His first big undercover case landed him in Wall Street busting up trading scams. That case went down in flames when a former colleague recognized his true identity and blew his cover. His next assignments proved to be much more dangerous. Marc embedded himself with mobsters, corrupt public officials, terrorists, and powerful drug dealers. Of course, we can’t cover his entire 27 year career here on this podcast. For that you’ll need to check out his new book titled “The Pretender.” It’s a great read. What we will do is talk about a few cases that were so intense, it had me grip the book so tight that I almost fused the pages together. Marc Ruskin’s next assignment was to bust up a fraudulent documents scheme in New York City. I'm not talking about fake IDs – there’s a difference. These fraudulent IDs are the real thing. If a police runs a fraudulent driver’s license, it actually checks out in their database. Marc told me terrorists, mob guys, fugitives were being arrested and had all kinds of real documents in their wallets under fake names. The FBI didn't have any leads. First, they had to find the source of these fraudulent documents. Marc says that some of these fraudulent driver’s licenses were selling for as much as a thousand dollars on the streets. It wasn’t until a tip from a twenty-something-year old man named John Sultan that led the FBI to a shabby travel agency in the Bronx called Holy Land Travel. The travel agency was a front led by Palestinian immigrant named Mahmoud Noubani.

The Pretender Marc Ruskin FBI Undercover You can find The Pretender on Amazon.com or at your local bookstore. Also a special thanks out to St. Martin’s Press for letting me share Marc’s story with you.
Buy the book on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3dRXbgl 
You can also follow Marc Ruskin on Twitter https://twitter.com/mhruskin
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The Pretender - Marc Ruskin FBI undercover agent Remember the name Marc Ruskin: because if you run into him, chances are he will introduce himself as Alex Perez, H. Marc Renard, or Sal Morelli – just a few of his FBI undercover personas. Marc Ruskin started his career as an assistant DA in Brooklyn and left it all behind to join the FBI Academy. It didn’t take him long to become an FBI undercover agent. His first big undercover case landed him in Wall Street busting up trading scams. That case went down in flames when a former colleague recognized his true identity and blew his cover. His next assignments proved to be much more dangerous. Marc embedded himself with mobsters, corrupt public officials, terrorists, and powerful drug dealers. Of course, we can’t cover his entire 27 year career here on this podcast. For that you’ll need to check out his new book titled “The Pretender.” It’s a great read. What we will do is talk about a few cases that were so intense, it had me grip the book so tight that I almost fused the pages together. Marc Ruskin’s next assignment was to bust up a fraudulent documents scheme in New York City. I'm not talking about fake IDs – there’s a difference. These fraudulent IDs are the real thing. If a police runs a fraudulent driver’s license, it actually checks out in their database. Marc told me terrorists, mob guys, fugitives were being arrested and had all kinds of real documents in their wallets under fake names. The FBI didn't have any leads. First, they had to find the source of these fraudulent documents. Marc says that some of these fraudulent driver’s licenses were selling for as much as a thousand dollars on the streets. It wasn’t until a tip from a twenty-something-year old man named John Sultan that led the FBI to a shabby travel agency in the Bronx called Holy Land Travel. The travel agency was a front led by Palestinian immigrant named Mahmoud Noubani.</p><p><br></p><p>The Pretender Marc Ruskin FBI Undercover You can find The Pretender on Amazon.com or at your local bookstore. Also a special thanks out to St. Martin’s Press for letting me share Marc’s story with you.</p><p><strong>Buy the book on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3dRXbgl </strong></p><p>You can also follow Marc Ruskin on Twitter https://twitter.com/mhruskin</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1560</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S109: The Pretender Part 1 - Undercover FBI Agent Marc Ruskin</title>
      <description>Before Marc Ruskin was an undercover FBI agent, he was an assistant DA in Brooklyn. Why did he give up his career as a powerful attorney to join the FBI academy? Well, in order to prosecute criminals, you have to catch them first. It didn’t take long for Marc to become an undercover agent. For 27 years, he slipped into various different characters busting criminals ranging from drug dealers to Wall Street insiders. At one point, Marc was juggling three or four cases at a time – switching back and forth between identities. He wrote a book about his time at the FBI appropriately titled “The Pretender.” When I first discovered his book I immediately shot him a message. Luckily for me, he agreed to share some of his stories. In the late 80s and early 90s, San Juan Puerto Rico had one of the highest murder rates of any US city. Some of the violence can be blamed on the Machetero, a separatist group actively trying to make Puerto Rico and independent country. Marc: "So I had gone from being an attorney in New York where the biggest thing I had to worry about was a papercut. Now I was in the streets of San Juan Puerto Rico as a combatant to the Macheteros. We learned at one point that the Macheteros had a plot to assassinate an FBI agent. The problem was, we didn’t know who the FBI agent was." Listen to my interview with Marc Ruskin on part 1 of "The Pretender" on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. You can find The Pretender on Amazon.com or at your local bookstore.

Purchase Marc Ruskin's autobiography titled The Pretender:
https://amzn.to/3dRXbgl

Also, you can follow Marc Ruskin on Twitter http://twitter.com/mhruskin
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 27 Aug 2017 00:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Pretender Part 1 - Undercover FBI Agent Marc Ruskin</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Before Marc Ruskin was an undercover FBI agent, h…</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Before Marc Ruskin was an undercover FBI agent, he was an assistant DA in Brooklyn. Why did he give up his career as a powerful attorney to join the FBI academy? Well, in order to prosecute criminals, you have to catch them first. It didn’t take long for Marc to become an undercover agent. For 27 years, he slipped into various different characters busting criminals ranging from drug dealers to Wall Street insiders. At one point, Marc was juggling three or four cases at a time – switching back and forth between identities. He wrote a book about his time at the FBI appropriately titled “The Pretender.” When I first discovered his book I immediately shot him a message. Luckily for me, he agreed to share some of his stories. In the late 80s and early 90s, San Juan Puerto Rico had one of the highest murder rates of any US city. Some of the violence can be blamed on the Machetero, a separatist group actively trying to make Puerto Rico and independent country. Marc: "So I had gone from being an attorney in New York where the biggest thing I had to worry about was a papercut. Now I was in the streets of San Juan Puerto Rico as a combatant to the Macheteros. We learned at one point that the Macheteros had a plot to assassinate an FBI agent. The problem was, we didn’t know who the FBI agent was." Listen to my interview with Marc Ruskin on part 1 of "The Pretender" on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. You can find The Pretender on Amazon.com or at your local bookstore.

Purchase Marc Ruskin's autobiography titled The Pretender:
https://amzn.to/3dRXbgl

Also, you can follow Marc Ruskin on Twitter http://twitter.com/mhruskin
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Before Marc Ruskin was an undercover FBI agent, he was an assistant DA in Brooklyn. Why did he give up his career as a powerful attorney to join the FBI academy? Well, in order to prosecute criminals, you have to catch them first. It didn’t take long for Marc to become an undercover agent. For 27 years, he slipped into various different characters busting criminals ranging from drug dealers to Wall Street insiders. At one point, Marc was juggling three or four cases at a time – switching back and forth between identities. He wrote a book about his time at the FBI appropriately titled “The Pretender.” When I first discovered his book I immediately shot him a message. Luckily for me, he agreed to share some of his stories. In the late 80s and early 90s, San Juan Puerto Rico had one of the highest murder rates of any US city. Some of the violence can be blamed on the Machetero, a separatist group actively trying to make Puerto Rico and independent country. Marc: "So I had gone from being an attorney in New York where the biggest thing I had to worry about was a papercut. Now I was in the streets of San Juan Puerto Rico as a combatant to the Macheteros. We learned at one point that the Macheteros had a plot to assassinate an FBI agent. The problem was, we didn’t know who the FBI agent was." Listen to my interview with Marc Ruskin on part 1 of "The Pretender" on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. You can find The Pretender on Amazon.com or at your local bookstore.</p><p><br></p><p>Purchase Marc Ruskin's autobiography titled The Pretender:</p><p>https://amzn.to/3dRXbgl</p><p><br></p><p>Also, you can follow Marc Ruskin on Twitter http://twitter.com/mhruskin</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1166</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S108: The Sculptor</title>
      <description>Sharon McConnell-Dickerson is preserving the Mississippi Delta blues with her own two hands. She's doing it by creating molds of some of the most influential blues musicians of our time. The lifecasts include a mask of Bobby “Blue” Bland, Little Milton from Memphis, “Honeyboy” Edwards from Chicago, and Pinetop Perkins from Clarksdale, just to name a few – almost 60 musicians total. http://mcconnelldickersonart.com/blues-lifecast
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      <pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2017 00:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Sculptor</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Sharon McConnell-Dickerson is preserving the Miss…</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Sharon McConnell-Dickerson is preserving the Mississippi Delta blues with her own two hands. She's doing it by creating molds of some of the most influential blues musicians of our time. The lifecasts include a mask of Bobby “Blue” Bland, Little Milton from Memphis, “Honeyboy” Edwards from Chicago, and Pinetop Perkins from Clarksdale, just to name a few – almost 60 musicians total. http://mcconnelldickersonart.com/blues-lifecast
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sharon McConnell-Dickerson is preserving the Mississippi Delta blues with her own two hands. She's doing it by creating molds of some of the most influential blues musicians of our time. The lifecasts include a mask of Bobby “Blue” Bland, Little Milton from Memphis, “Honeyboy” Edwards from Chicago, and Pinetop Perkins from Clarksdale, just to name a few – almost 60 musicians total. http://mcconnelldickersonart.com/blues-lifecast</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1391</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S107: The Real Estate Agent - Part 2 - Todd Kohlhepp</title>
      <description>South Carolina serial killer Todd Kohlhepp confesses to the Superbike Motorsports mass murder. This is part 2 of "The Real Estate Agent." I suggest starting with part 1. It was a Thursday morning. Kohlhepp walked into the Superbike motorsports store and started scoping out the place. He’s not shopping for motorcycle. He’s looking for his next victims. Kohlhepp: "I got there. Not everybody was there. I went in sat on a few bikes, did my usual. Basically buying for time. And doing my best to make sure the paying customers are not there. Collateral damage is not cool. I chose a time when it was not busy. A time after work when I would have a lot of people in there. I did not want to shoot other people. Finally all four show up. From the sound of it nobody else was there." The four people Kohlhepp is referencing are Brian Lucas, Chris Sherbert, Scott Ponder, and Scott’s mother Beverly Guy. Investigator: "When you say all four?" Kohlhepp: "All the four people who work at the bike store. The mechanic, the mom. I was not going for the mom but she was there at the time. Working there. She was thrown into it. She was not a primary target." The store finally cleared. Kohlhepp was the only customer in the store. He tells one of the employees that he’s interested in a certain bike. Kohlhepp: "I cleared that room in under 30 seconds. You guys would have been proud. I’m sorry but you guys would have been proud." This was the crime Kohlhepp got away with. Nobody was looking for him. Why would he confess?
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      <pubDate>Thu, 10 Aug 2017 03:48:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Real Estate Agent - Part 2 - Todd Kohlhepp</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>South Carolina serial killer Todd Kohlhepp confes…</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>South Carolina serial killer Todd Kohlhepp confesses to the Superbike Motorsports mass murder. This is part 2 of "The Real Estate Agent." I suggest starting with part 1. It was a Thursday morning. Kohlhepp walked into the Superbike motorsports store and started scoping out the place. He’s not shopping for motorcycle. He’s looking for his next victims. Kohlhepp: "I got there. Not everybody was there. I went in sat on a few bikes, did my usual. Basically buying for time. And doing my best to make sure the paying customers are not there. Collateral damage is not cool. I chose a time when it was not busy. A time after work when I would have a lot of people in there. I did not want to shoot other people. Finally all four show up. From the sound of it nobody else was there." The four people Kohlhepp is referencing are Brian Lucas, Chris Sherbert, Scott Ponder, and Scott’s mother Beverly Guy. Investigator: "When you say all four?" Kohlhepp: "All the four people who work at the bike store. The mechanic, the mom. I was not going for the mom but she was there at the time. Working there. She was thrown into it. She was not a primary target." The store finally cleared. Kohlhepp was the only customer in the store. He tells one of the employees that he’s interested in a certain bike. Kohlhepp: "I cleared that room in under 30 seconds. You guys would have been proud. I’m sorry but you guys would have been proud." This was the crime Kohlhepp got away with. Nobody was looking for him. Why would he confess?
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        <![CDATA[<p>South Carolina serial killer Todd Kohlhepp confesses to the Superbike Motorsports mass murder. This is part 2 of "The Real Estate Agent." I suggest starting with part 1. It was a Thursday morning. Kohlhepp walked into the Superbike motorsports store and started scoping out the place. He’s not shopping for motorcycle. He’s looking for his next victims. Kohlhepp: "I got there. Not everybody was there. I went in sat on a few bikes, did my usual. Basically buying for time. And doing my best to make sure the paying customers are not there. Collateral damage is not cool. I chose a time when it was not busy. A time after work when I would have a lot of people in there. I did not want to shoot other people. Finally all four show up. From the sound of it nobody else was there." The four people Kohlhepp is referencing are Brian Lucas, Chris Sherbert, Scott Ponder, and Scott’s mother Beverly Guy. Investigator: "When you say all four?" Kohlhepp: "All the four people who work at the bike store. The mechanic, the mom. I was not going for the mom but she was there at the time. Working there. She was thrown into it. She was not a primary target." The store finally cleared. Kohlhepp was the only customer in the store. He tells one of the employees that he’s interested in a certain bike. Kohlhepp: "I cleared that room in under 30 seconds. You guys would have been proud. I’m sorry but you guys would have been proud." This was the crime Kohlhepp got away with. Nobody was looking for him. Why would he confess?</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1367</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S106: The Real Estate Agent Part 1 - Todd Kohlhepp</title>
      <description>This week’s story is about self-professed serial killer Todd Kohlhepp. What’s terrifying about Todd Kohlhepp? He’s not the type of serial killer you see in the movies. He doesn’t collect body parts in his fridge. He doesn’t taunt the media with riddles. He seems like a normal guy who owns a successful real estate company. Listen as his last surviving victim describes how he killed her boyfriend and locked her up in a shipping container for weeks. And that's just the beginning.
 
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      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2017 00:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Real Estate Agent Part 1 - Todd Kohlhepp</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week’s story is about self-professed serial …</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This week’s story is about self-professed serial killer Todd Kohlhepp. What’s terrifying about Todd Kohlhepp? He’s not the type of serial killer you see in the movies. He doesn’t collect body parts in his fridge. He doesn’t taunt the media with riddles. He seems like a normal guy who owns a successful real estate company. Listen as his last surviving victim describes how he killed her boyfriend and locked her up in a shipping container for weeks. And that's just the beginning.
 
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week’s story is about self-professed serial killer Todd Kohlhepp. What’s terrifying about Todd Kohlhepp? He’s not the type of serial killer you see in the movies. He doesn’t collect body parts in his fridge. He doesn’t taunt the media with riddles. He seems like a normal guy who owns a successful real estate company. Listen as his last surviving victim describes how he killed her boyfriend and locked her up in a shipping container for weeks. And that's just the beginning.</p><p> </p><p>SUBSCRIBE NOW</p><p>Apple Podcasts: tiny.cc/PretendApplePodcast</p><p>Google Play: tiny.cc/PretendGooglePlay</p><p>Stitcher: tiny.cc/PretendStitcher</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1647</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S105: Birth of a Con Man Part 2 - Opioid epidemic </title>
      <description>Previously on Pretend Radio we witnessed the birth of a con man.
A man started his criminal career as a street thug and worked his way up to car insurance scam artist.
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      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Jul 2017 00:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Birth of a Con Man Part 2 - Opioid epidemic </itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>5</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Previously on Pretend Radio we witnessed the birth of a con man. Erik Torres started his criminal career as a street thug and worked his way up to car insurance scam artist. Here’s how how it works. Erik stages car accidents then the driver...</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Previously on Pretend Radio we witnessed the birth of a con man.
A man started his criminal career as a street thug and worked his way up to car insurance scam artist.
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="http://pretendradio.org/birth-of-a-con-man-part-1/">Previously on Pretend Radio</a> we witnessed the birth of a con man.</p><p>A man started his criminal career as a street thug and worked his way up to car insurance scam artist.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>1178</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S104: Birth of a Con Man Part 1</title>
      <link>http://pretendradio.org/</link>
      <description>In part one of the Birth of a Con Man, hear how man became a career criminal—a con-man. First, he started scamming auto insurance companies. Then the con got bigger and more elaborate. You see, that’s how it works. Once a con man gets away with it, they have to do it again. But the next time, the con is bigger and more complex.
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      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Jul 2017 12:35:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Birth of a Con Man Part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Imagine, you’re driving on the road when suddenly…</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In part one of the Birth of a Con Man, hear how man became a career criminal—a con-man. First, he started scamming auto insurance companies. Then the con got bigger and more elaborate. You see, that’s how it works. Once a con man gets away with it, they have to do it again. But the next time, the con is bigger and more complex.
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        <![CDATA[<p>In part one of the Birth of a Con Man, hear how man became a career criminal—a con-man. First, he started scamming auto insurance companies. Then the con got bigger and more elaborate. You see, that’s how it works. Once a con man gets away with it, they have to do it again. But the next time, the con is bigger and more complex.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1407</itunes:duration>
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      <title>S103: The Prophet Part 3 - Word of Faith Fellowship</title>
      <description>In the Prophet part 3, we’ll look at the Word of Faith Fellowship from a completely different lens. We’ll hear from current sect members and get their version of the story. Plus, you'll hear the latest on trial against five ministers accused of beating and kidnapping Michael Fenner. If you enjoy the show, consider donating a dollar: https://patreon.com/user?u=5971503&amp;utm_medium=social&amp;utm_source=twitter&amp;utm_campaign=creatorshare2 Follow us on: Twitter: @pretend_radio Facebook: www.facebook.com/PretendRadioPodcast
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      <pubDate>Thu, 22 Jun 2017 00:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Prophet Part 3 - Word of Faith Fellowship</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In the Prophet part 3, we’ll look at the Word of …</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In the Prophet part 3, we’ll look at the Word of Faith Fellowship from a completely different lens. We’ll hear from current sect members and get their version of the story. Plus, you'll hear the latest on trial against five ministers accused of beating and kidnapping Michael Fenner. If you enjoy the show, consider donating a dollar: https://patreon.com/user?u=5971503&amp;utm_medium=social&amp;utm_source=twitter&amp;utm_campaign=creatorshare2 Follow us on: Twitter: @pretend_radio Facebook: www.facebook.com/PretendRadioPodcast
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the Prophet part 3, we’ll look at the Word of Faith Fellowship from a completely different lens. We’ll hear from current sect members and get their version of the story. Plus, you'll hear the latest on trial against five ministers accused of beating and kidnapping Michael Fenner. If you enjoy the show, consider donating a dollar: https://patreon.com/user?u=5971503&amp;utm_medium=social&amp;utm_source=twitter&amp;utm_campaign=creatorshare2 Follow us on: Twitter: @pretend_radio Facebook: www.facebook.com/PretendRadioPodcast</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:duration>1316</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S102: The Prophet Part 2 - Word of Faith Fellowship</title>
      <description>John Cooper remembers one of the Word of Faith Fellowship ministers commanding him to beat his wife. He also describes his family’s attempt to what he describes as a cult. Then it finally happened. John escaped. We’ll listen to secret recordings of pastor Jane Whaley trying to lure him back.
 
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      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2017 00:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Prophet Part 2 - Word of Faith Fellowship</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Creative Babble, LLC</itunes:author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>John Cooper remembers one of the Word of Faith Fe…</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>John Cooper remembers one of the Word of Faith Fellowship ministers commanding him to beat his wife. He also describes his family’s attempt to what he describes as a cult. Then it finally happened. John escaped. We’ll listen to secret recordings of pastor Jane Whaley trying to lure him back.
 
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        <![CDATA[<p>John Cooper remembers one of the Word of Faith Fellowship ministers commanding him to beat his wife. He also describes his family’s attempt to what he describes as a cult. Then it finally happened. John escaped. We’ll listen to secret recordings of pastor Jane Whaley trying to lure him back.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices">podcastchoices.com/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1382</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <title>S101: The Prophet Part 1 - Word of Faith Fellowship</title>
      <link>https://open.spotify.com/episode/4wvQwgTDC0XPEo5rkkW2Uj?si=292c9d649d2c4963</link>
      <description>///UPDATE///

Start with Season 3, episode 1. After covering this cult, I was personally invited by the cult leader to spend the day with her. You won't want to miss it.

///UPDATE///

The Prophet part 1 explores The Word of Faith Fellowship. You will hear about the accused cult leader, Pastor Jane Whaley, who many inside the sect believe is a prophet with direct communication with God. John Cooper describes the day 20 to 30 sect members surrounded and attacked him. He also shares secret recordings of Pastor Jane Whaley commanding someone to throw someone down to the ground. Plus, you’ll hear “blasting prayers” — ear-piercing crying sessions meant to cast out demons.
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      <itunes:subtitle>The Prophet part 1 explores The Word of Faith Fel…</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>///UPDATE///

Start with Season 3, episode 1. After covering this cult, I was personally invited by the cult leader to spend the day with her. You won't want to miss it.

///UPDATE///

The Prophet part 1 explores The Word of Faith Fellowship. You will hear about the accused cult leader, Pastor Jane Whaley, who many inside the sect believe is a prophet with direct communication with God. John Cooper describes the day 20 to 30 sect members surrounded and attacked him. He also shares secret recordings of Pastor Jane Whaley commanding someone to throw someone down to the ground. Plus, you’ll hear “blasting prayers” — ear-piercing crying sessions meant to cast out demons.
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      <description>PRETEND is a documentary-style podcast about con artists and real people pretending to be someone else. 

Javier Leiva interviews real con artists, snake oil salesmen, and former cult members–anyone living a lie.

PRETEND is consistently in the top True Crime Podcasts in U.S., UK, Canada, and Australia. 

It has been featured in the New York Times, the BBC, and New York Magazine. In 2018, Vulture named PRETEND one of the top 52 True Crime podcasts in the U.S.
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      <itunes:summary>PRETEND is a documentary-style podcast about con artists and real people pretending to be someone else. 

Javier Leiva interviews real con artists, snake oil salesmen, and former cult members–anyone living a lie.

PRETEND is consistently in the top True Crime Podcasts in U.S., UK, Canada, and Australia. 

It has been featured in the New York Times, the BBC, and New York Magazine. In 2018, Vulture named PRETEND one of the top 52 True Crime podcasts in the U.S.
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<a href="http://pretendradio.org"><strong>PRETEND</strong></a><strong> is a documentary-style podcast about con artists and real people pretending to be someone else. </strong>
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