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    <description>Engaging ESG brings together sustainability and marketing leaders for candid conversations about what actually works when communicating sustainability and social impact. Join Jennifer Owens, ESG marketing consultant, and Kati Kallins, global head of sustainability at Adobe, as they and their guests cut through the noise to deliver practical strategies you can implement today.</description>
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    <itunes:summary>Engaging ESG brings together sustainability and marketing leaders for candid conversations about what actually works when communicating sustainability and social impact. Join Jennifer Owens, ESG marketing consultant, and Kati Kallins, global head of sustainability at Adobe, as they and their guests cut through the noise to deliver practical strategies you can implement today.</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Making Carbon Literacy Fun, Familiar and Scalable EP 41</title>
      <description>Michelle Li, founder of Clever Carbon and Women in Climate, joins Jennifer and Kati to talk about making carbon literacy accessible, engaging, and even joyful.Michelle started her career in Silicon Valley with stints at Salesforce and DocuSign. In 2020, frustrated by the boring, acronym-heavy content she encountered while trying to learn about carbon footprints, she launched Clever Carbon to demystify emissions using the power of numbers. (Think: Nutrition labels, but for carbon.)We also talk about Women in Climate, her nonprofit that has grown to include 35,000 LinkedIn followers, 7,000 members in its global Slack community, and more than 1,200 climate professionals in its speaker database. And we can’t forget the Carbon Newbie Summit, which is an annual highlight of New York Climate Week!Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com.Learn more about us at https://bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.


Show Links

Learn more about Michelle Li.

Learn more about Clever Carbon.

Join Women in Climate.

Learn more about the Carbon Newbie Summit.

Read Silent Spring by Rachel Carson.

Watch 3 Body Problem.

Watch A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms. 

Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.





















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      <pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2026 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Making Carbon Literacy Fun, Familiar and Scalable</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Michelle Li, founder of Clever Carbon and Women in Climate, joins Jennifer and Kati to talk about making carbon literacy accessible, engaging, and even joyful.Michelle started her career in Silicon Valley with stints at Salesforce and DocuSign. In 2020, frustrated by the boring, acronym-heavy content she encountered while trying to learn about carbon footprints, she launched Clever Carbon to demystify emissions using the power of numbers. (Think: Nutrition labels, but for carbon.)We also talk about Women in Climate, her nonprofit that has grown to include 35,000 LinkedIn followers, 7,000 members in its global Slack community, and more than 1,200 climate professionals in its speaker database. And we can’t forget the Carbon Newbie Summit, which is an annual highlight of New York Climate Week!Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com.Learn more about us at https://bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.


Show Links

Learn more about Michelle Li.

Learn more about Clever Carbon.

Join Women in Climate.

Learn more about the Carbon Newbie Summit.

Read Silent Spring by Rachel Carson.

Watch 3 Body Problem.

Watch A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms. 

Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.





















Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Michelle Li, founder of Clever Carbon and Women in Climate, joins Jennifer and Kati to talk about making carbon literacy accessible, engaging, and even joyful.<br>Michelle started her career in Silicon Valley with stints at Salesforce and DocuSign. In 2020, frustrated by the boring, acronym-heavy content she encountered while trying to learn about carbon footprints, she launched Clever Carbon to demystify emissions using the power of numbers. (Think: Nutrition labels, but for carbon.)<br>We also talk about Women in Climate, her nonprofit that has grown to include 35,000 LinkedIn followers, 7,000 members in its global Slack community, and more than 1,200 climate professionals in its speaker database. And we can’t forget the Carbon Newbie Summit, which is an annual highlight of New York Climate Week!<br>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>.<br>Learn more about us at <a href="https://bit.ly/EngagingESGpod">https://bit.ly/EngagingESGpod</a>.
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<p><strong>Show Links</strong></p>
<p>Learn more about <a href="https://www.michelleli.co/">Michelle Li</a>.</p>
<p>Learn more about <a href="https://clevercarbon.io">Clever Carbon</a>.</p>
<p>Join <a href="https://www.womenandclimate.co">Women in Climate.</a></p>
<p>Learn more about the <a href="https://www.carbonnewbie.com/">Carbon Newbie Summit.</a></p>
<p>Read <a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/silent-spring-rachel-carson?variant=41227004805154"><em>Silent Spring</em></a> by Rachel Carson.</p>
<p>Watch <a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81024821"><em>3 Body Problem</em></a><em>.</em></p>
<p>Watch <a href="https://www.hbomax.com/shows/knight-of-the-seven-kingdoms/3507a932-eace-46ea-bfe1-638ae819fa12"><em>A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms</em></a><em>. </em></p>
<p>Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.




















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      <title>Making Sustainability Part of Everybody's Job EP 40</title>
      <description>Drew Wilkinson, founder of the Climate Leadership Collective and LinkedIn Learning instructor, joins Jennifer and Kati to explore why less than 1 percent of any workforce working on sustainability simply doesn't scale — and what to do about it.Drew's journey started as a paralegal at Microsoft. Over 10 years, he helped build the company's first employee sustainability community, helped push Microsoft toward its 2020 climate commitments, and watched as software engineers created green coding principles that now influence the entire profession. Today, he is bringing his experience to a wide array of companies and industries.We dig into the difference between working in climate and working on climate, why the professional sphere is a sweet spot for impact, and how to create pathways for employees to connect their passion with their purpose.Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!Learn more about us at https://bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.


Show Links

Learn more about Drew Wilkinson

Learn more about the Climate Leadership Collective

Take Drew's LinkedIn Learning course on
employee sustainability engagement

Explore Earthwise Architectural Salvage

Learn about the Green Software Foundation

 

Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin
Vangard.
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      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Making Sustainability Part of Everybody's Job</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>40</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Drew Wilkinson, founder of the Climate Leadership Collective and LinkedIn Learning instructor, joins Jennifer and Kati to explore why less than 1 percent of any workforce working on sustainability simply doesn't scale — and what to do about it.Drew's journey started as a paralegal at Microsoft. Over 10 years, he helped build the company's first employee sustainability community, helped push Microsoft toward its 2020 climate commitments, and watched as software engineers created green coding principles that now influence the entire profession. Today, he is bringing his experience to a wide array of companies and industries.We dig into the difference between working in climate and working on climate, why the professional sphere is a sweet spot for impact, and how to create pathways for employees to connect their passion with their purpose.Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!Learn more about us at https://bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.


Show Links

Learn more about Drew Wilkinson

Learn more about the Climate Leadership Collective

Take Drew's LinkedIn Learning course on
employee sustainability engagement

Explore Earthwise Architectural Salvage

Learn about the Green Software Foundation

 

Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin
Vangard.
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        <![CDATA[<p>Drew Wilkinson, founder of the Climate Leadership Collective and LinkedIn Learning instructor, joins Jennifer and Kati to explore why less than 1 percent of any workforce working on sustainability simply doesn't scale — and what to do about it.<br>Drew's journey started as a paralegal at Microsoft. Over 10 years, he helped build the company's first employee sustainability community, helped push Microsoft toward its 2020 climate commitments, and watched as software engineers created green coding principles that now influence the entire profession. Today, he is bringing his experience to a wide array of companies and industries.<br>We dig into the difference between working in climate and working on climate, why the professional sphere is a sweet spot for impact, and how to create pathways for employees to connect their passion with their purpose.<br>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>!<br>Learn more about us at <a href="https://bit.ly/EngagingESGpod">https://bit.ly/EngagingESGpod</a>.
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<p><strong>Show Links</strong></p>
<p>Learn more about<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/drewwilkinson/"> </a><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewmartinwilkinson/">Drew Wilkinson</a></p>
<p>Learn more about the <a href="https://www.climateleadershipcollective.com/">Climate Leadership Collective</a></p>
<p>Take Drew's<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/learning/"> </a><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/learning/employee-engagement-making-sustainability-part-of-everybody-s-job/sustainability-is-part-of-everybody-s-job">LinkedIn Learning course</a> on
employee sustainability engagement</p>
<p>Explore <a href="https://ewsalvage.com/">Earthwise Architectural Salvage</a></p>
<p>Learn about the <a href="https://greensoftware.foundation/">Green Software Foundation</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin
Vangard.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Collective Action in a Polarized World EP 39</title>
      <description>Amanda Gardiner, Executive Director of the UN Global Compact Network USA, joins Jennifer and Kati for a conversation about leading one of the world's most influential corporate sustainability networks and why this moment calls for a new kind of community.With a career spanning the United Nations, Fortune 500s like Meta and Verizon, and global education company Pearson, Amanda brings hard-won lessons about integrating ESG strategy across decentralized organizations. She shares her experience building trust with stakeholders and mapping value chains to unlock influence.We also dig into the evolving language of sustainability and how the UN Global Compact is helping companies navigate reduced budgets, leadership turnover and regulatory uncertainty.Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!

Learn more about us at https://bit.ly/EngagingESGpod

Show Links

Learn more about Amanda Gardiner

Visit UN Global Compact Network USA

Watch: Pluribus + Sinners

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      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2026 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Collective Action in a Polarized World</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>39</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Amanda Gardiner, Executive Director of the UN Global Compact Network USA, joins Jennifer and Kati for a conversation about leading one of the world's most influential corporate sustainability networks and why this moment calls for a new kind of community.With a career spanning the United Nations, Fortune 500s like Meta and Verizon, and global education company Pearson, Amanda brings hard-won lessons about integrating ESG strategy across decentralized organizations. She shares her experience building trust with stakeholders and mapping value chains to unlock influence.We also dig into the evolving language of sustainability and how the UN Global Compact is helping companies navigate reduced budgets, leadership turnover and regulatory uncertainty.Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!

Learn more about us at https://bit.ly/EngagingESGpod

Show Links

Learn more about Amanda Gardiner

Visit UN Global Compact Network USA

Watch: Pluribus + Sinners

Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Amanda Gardiner, Executive Director of the UN Global Compact Network USA, joins Jennifer and Kati for a conversation about leading one of the world's most influential corporate sustainability networks and why this moment calls for a new kind of community.<br>With a career spanning the United Nations, Fortune 500s like Meta and Verizon, and global education company Pearson, Amanda brings hard-won lessons about integrating ESG strategy across decentralized organizations. She shares her experience building trust with stakeholders and mapping value chains to unlock influence.<br>We also dig into the evolving language of sustainability and how the UN Global Compact is helping companies navigate reduced budgets, leadership turnover and regulatory uncertainty.<br>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>!</p>
<p>Learn more about us at <a href="https://bit.ly/EngagingESGpod">https://bit.ly/EngagingESGpod</a></p>
<p><strong>Show Links</strong></p>
<p>Learn more about<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandagardiner/"> Amanda Gardiner</a></p>
<p>Visit<a href="https://www.unglobalcompact.org/engage-locally/north-america/usa"> UN Global Compact Network USA</a></p>
<p>Watch: <a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/pluribus/umc.cmc.37axgovs2yozlyh3c2cmwzlza">Pluribus</a> + <a href="https://www.hulu.com/movie/sinners-a2f3d5fb-65e8-4687-80f6-8de09e312d0e">Sinners</a></p>
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      <title>Building a Regenerative Future EP 38</title>
      <description>Lindsay Baker, CEO of the Living Future Institute, joins Jennifer and Kati to demystify the built environment's role in climate action.

With a career that spans LEED's early days, Google's green building team, WeWork's sustainability efforts and climate tech startups, Lindsay brings deep sector expertise to the question: How does sustainability actually happen? 

She breaks down why passion without understanding is too often misdirected and makes the case for maintaining what we have rather than always building new.

Plus: Why "fetch" still isn't happening in sustainability terminology (!), how agricultural waste like straw bale and hemp are revolutionizing building materials, and the important (and unsung) role your building maintenance team plays in reaching climate goals.

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!

Learn more about Engaging ESG at bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.



Show links

•	Learn more about Lindsay Baker.

•	Living Future Institute

•	Design the Future podcast

•	Living Building Challenge

•	Climate Wayfaring by Katharine K. Wilkinson
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      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2026 14:11:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Building a Regenerative Future</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>38</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Lindsay Baker, CEO of the Living Future Institute, joins Jennifer and Kati to demystify the built environment's role in climate action.

With a career that spans LEED's early days, Google's green building team, WeWork's sustainability efforts and climate tech startups, Lindsay brings deep sector expertise to the question: How does sustainability actually happen? 

She breaks down why passion without understanding is too often misdirected and makes the case for maintaining what we have rather than always building new.

Plus: Why "fetch" still isn't happening in sustainability terminology (!), how agricultural waste like straw bale and hemp are revolutionizing building materials, and the important (and unsung) role your building maintenance team plays in reaching climate goals.

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!

Learn more about Engaging ESG at bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.



Show links

•	Learn more about Lindsay Baker.

•	Living Future Institute

•	Design the Future podcast

•	Living Building Challenge

•	Climate Wayfaring by Katharine K. Wilkinson
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        <![CDATA[<p>Lindsay Baker, CEO of the Living Future Institute, joins Jennifer and Kati to demystify the built environment's role in climate action.</p>
<p><br>With a career that spans LEED's early days, Google's green building team, WeWork's sustainability efforts and climate tech startups, Lindsay brings deep sector expertise to the question: How does sustainability actually happen? </p>
<p>She breaks down why passion without understanding is too often misdirected and makes the case for maintaining what we have rather than always building new.</p>
<p><br>Plus: Why "fetch" still isn't happening in sustainability terminology (!), how agricultural waste like straw bale and hemp are revolutionizing building materials, and the important (and unsung) role your building maintenance team plays in reaching climate goals.</p>
<p><br>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>!</p>
<p>Learn more about Engaging ESG at <a href="https://bit.ly/EngagingESGpod">bit.ly/EngagingESGpod</a>.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Show links</strong></p>
<p>•	Learn more about <a href="https://living-future.org/staff/lindsay-baker/">Lindsay Baker</a>.</p>
<p>•	<a href="https://living-future.org/about/">Living Future Institute</a></p>
<p>•	<a href="https://www.designthefuturepodcast.com/">Design the Future podcast</a></p>
<p>•	<a href="https://living-future.org/lbc/">Living Building Challenge</a></p>
<p>•	<a href="https://www.climatewayfinding.earth/">Climate Wayfaring</a> by Katharine K. Wilkinson</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>What's Really Happening Right Now in Sustainability Hiring EP 37</title>
      <description>What's Really Happening Right Now in Sustainability Hiring

They're back! Catherine Harris and Richard Kent of Acre — the global leader in sustainability recruitment — return for our first-ever repeat interview… and for very good reason. Their Season 3 episode was one of our most popular, and the sustainability job market has shifted dramatically since we last talked.

Catherine, Acre's Executive Director of Sustainable Business for the Americas, and Richard, a Principal Consultant specializing in sustainability and technology leadership, share what's really happening behind the hiring headlines and offer advice on how professionals in this space should position themselves.

We also discuss why hiring timelines have doubled, how AI is reshaping the talent landscape, and what Catherine and Richard are telling candidates right now about building resumes, rethinking job titles and staying sharp in a tough market.

Have a question for us?
Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!

Learn more about us at https://bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.

Show Links

Learn more about Catherine Harris.

Learn more about Richard Kent.

Learn more about Acre.

Read Ride the Waves from Futerra.

Read LinkedIn Green Skills Report. 

Read Termination Shock by Neal Stephenson.

Read New York 2140 by Kim Stanley Robinson.

Read Alison Taylor Higher Ground. 

Read Solitaire Townsend’s Solitaire's Storytelling. 

Read Andrew Winston.

 

Our theme music is
"Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.
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      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2026 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:episode>37</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>What's Really Happening Right Now in Sustainability Hiring

They're back! Catherine Harris and Richard Kent of Acre — the global leader in sustainability recruitment — return for our first-ever repeat interview… and for very good reason. Their Season 3 episode was one of our most popular, and the sustainability job market has shifted dramatically since we last talked.

Catherine, Acre's Executive Director of Sustainable Business for the Americas, and Richard, a Principal Consultant specializing in sustainability and technology leadership, share what's really happening behind the hiring headlines and offer advice on how professionals in this space should position themselves.

We also discuss why hiring timelines have doubled, how AI is reshaping the talent landscape, and what Catherine and Richard are telling candidates right now about building resumes, rethinking job titles and staying sharp in a tough market.

Have a question for us?
Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!

Learn more about us at https://bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.

Show Links

Learn more about Catherine Harris.

Learn more about Richard Kent.

Learn more about Acre.

Read Ride the Waves from Futerra.

Read LinkedIn Green Skills Report. 

Read Termination Shock by Neal Stephenson.

Read New York 2140 by Kim Stanley Robinson.

Read Alison Taylor Higher Ground. 

Read Solitaire Townsend’s Solitaire's Storytelling. 

Read Andrew Winston.

 

Our theme music is
"Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>What's Really Happening Right Now in Sustainability Hiring</strong></p>
<p>They're back! Catherine Harris and Richard Kent of Acre — the global leader in sustainability recruitment — return for our first-ever repeat interview… and for very good reason. Their Season 3 episode was one of our most popular, and the sustainability job market has shifted dramatically since we last talked.</p>
<p>Catherine, Acre's Executive Director of Sustainable Business for the Americas, and Richard, a Principal Consultant specializing in sustainability and technology leadership, share what's really happening behind the hiring headlines and offer advice on how professionals in this space should position themselves.</p>
<p>We also discuss why hiring timelines have doubled, how AI is reshaping the talent landscape, and what Catherine and Richard are telling candidates right now about building resumes, rethinking job titles and staying sharp in a tough market.</p>
<p>Have a question for us?
Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>!</p>
<p>Learn more about us at <a href="https://bit.ly/EngagingESGpod">https://bit.ly/EngagingESGpod</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Show Links</strong></p>
<p>Learn more about<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/catherine-harris-0923a66/"> Catherine Harris</a>.</p>
<p>Learn more about<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/richard-kent-b959192a/"> Richard Kent</a>.</p>
<p>Learn more about<a href="https://www.acre.com/"> Acre</a>.</p>
<p>Read<a href="https://futerra-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/documents/RIDE_THE_SUSTAINABILITY_WAVES_1.pdf"> Ride the Waves from Futerra</a>.</p>
<p>Read <a href="https://economicgraph.linkedin.com/content/dam/me/economicgraph/en-us/PDF/linkedin-global-green-skills-report-v07.pdf">LinkedIn Green Skills Report</a>. </p>
<p>Read <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Termination-Shock-Novel-Neal-Stephenson/dp/0063028050">Termination Shock by Neal Stephenson</a>.</p>
<p>Read <a href="https://www.amazon.com/New-York-2140-Stanley-Robinson/dp/031626234X">New York 2140 by Kim Stanley Robinson.</a></p>
<p>Read <a href="https://findhigherground.substack.com/">Alison Taylor Higher Ground</a>. </p>
<p>Read <a href="https://solitairetownsend.substack.com/">Solitaire Townsend’s Solitaire's Storytelling</a>. </p>
<p>Read <a href="http://andrewswinston.substack.com">Andrew Winston</a>.</p>
<p> </p>
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      <title>Seeing Climate Change: Hope, Humanity + Conservation EP 36</title>
      <description>National Geographic photographer and filmmaker Ami Vitale joins Jennifer and Kati to explore how visual storytelling can transform conservation narratives, from documenting the last northern white rhinos to centering indigenous voices in climate solutions. 

After a decade covering global conflicts, Ami discovered environmental breakdown was at the heart of human suffering, leading her to reimagine how we tell nature's stories. Through her nonprofit Vital Impacts, which has raised more than $5 million for conservation, she demonstrates why hope isn't soft but strategic, and why the real question isn't whether local voices are included, but “who's holding the microphone and who's benefiting?’ 

Learn how Kenya's community-led conservation turned around rhino extinction, why we need to get comfortable with discomfort, and how finding joy in tragedy becomes an act of resistance against apathy.

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* Learn more about Ami Vitale.

* Ami's iconic photographs of Sudan, the last male northern white rhino (National Geographic)

* Vital Impacts



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      <itunes:title>Seeing Climate Change: Hope, Humanity + Conservation</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>36</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>National Geographic photographer and filmmaker Ami Vitale joins Jennifer and Kati to explore how visual storytelling can transform conservation narratives, from documenting the last northern white rhinos to centering indigenous voices in climate solutions. 

After a decade covering global conflicts, Ami discovered environmental breakdown was at the heart of human suffering, leading her to reimagine how we tell nature's stories. Through her nonprofit Vital Impacts, which has raised more than $5 million for conservation, she demonstrates why hope isn't soft but strategic, and why the real question isn't whether local voices are included, but “who's holding the microphone and who's benefiting?’ 

Learn how Kenya's community-led conservation turned around rhino extinction, why we need to get comfortable with discomfort, and how finding joy in tragedy becomes an act of resistance against apathy.

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!

Learn more about Engaging ESG at bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.



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* Learn more about Ami Vitale.

* Ami's iconic photographs of Sudan, the last male northern white rhino (National Geographic)

* Vital Impacts



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        <![CDATA[<p>National Geographic photographer and filmmaker Ami Vitale joins Jennifer and Kati to explore how visual storytelling can transform conservation narratives, from documenting the last northern white rhinos to centering indigenous voices in climate solutions. </p>
<p>After a decade covering global conflicts, Ami discovered environmental breakdown was at the heart of human suffering, leading her to reimagine how we tell nature's stories. Through her nonprofit Vital Impacts, which has raised more than $5 million for conservation, she demonstrates why hope isn't soft but strategic, and why the real question isn't whether local voices are included, but “who's holding the microphone and who's benefiting?’ </p>
<p>Learn how Kenya's community-led conservation turned around rhino extinction, why we need to get comfortable with discomfort, and how finding joy in tragedy becomes an act of resistance against apathy.</p>
<p>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>!</p>
<p>Learn more about Engaging ESG at <a href="bit.ly/EngagingESGpod">bit.ly/EngagingESGpod</a>.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Show Links</strong></p>
<p>* Learn more about <a href="https://www.amivitale.com/">Ami Vitale</a>.</p>
<p>* Ami's iconic photographs of Sudan, the last male northern white rhino (<a href="https://www.amivitale.com/photo-story/goodbye-sudan-the-worlds-last-male-northern-white-rhino/">National Geographic</a>)</p>
<p>* <a href="https://vitalimpacts.org/">Vital Impacts</a></p>
<p><br></p>
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      <title>Soil, Stories and the Power of Positive Messaging EP 35</title>
      <description>Last year, only 9% of Americans spoke to a farmer about their food. Evan Harrison, CEO of Kiss the Ground, is here to change that with an approach to regenerative agriculture designed to bring the concept into the mainstream through strategic storytelling.

Its impact is already being felt. This year, Kiss the Ground has produced 400 pieces of content to reach 2 million people monthly, turning farmers into the real rock stars of the movement.

In this conversation with Jennifer + Kati, Evan offers his data-driven approach to awareness building, how his music industry background at iHeartRadio and BMG shaped his nonprofit leadership style, and why leading with health instead of climate alarm is the key to resonating more and more. 

Have a question for us?
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Learn about: Kiss the Ground

Watch: Kiss the Ground documentary

Watch: Stories of Regeneration with Dan Barber 

Follow: 5 with a Farmer 

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      <itunes:title>Soil, Stories and the Power of Positive Messaging</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>35</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:summary>Last year, only 9% of Americans spoke to a farmer about their food. Evan Harrison, CEO of Kiss the Ground, is here to change that with an approach to regenerative agriculture designed to bring the concept into the mainstream through strategic storytelling.

Its impact is already being felt. This year, Kiss the Ground has produced 400 pieces of content to reach 2 million people monthly, turning farmers into the real rock stars of the movement.

In this conversation with Jennifer + Kati, Evan offers his data-driven approach to awareness building, how his music industry background at iHeartRadio and BMG shaped his nonprofit leadership style, and why leading with health instead of climate alarm is the key to resonating more and more. 

Have a question for us?
Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!

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Learn about: Kiss the Ground

Watch: Kiss the Ground documentary

Watch: Stories of Regeneration with Dan Barber 

Follow: 5 with a Farmer 

Read: Project Drawdown
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        <![CDATA[<p>Last year, only 9% of Americans spoke to a farmer about their food. Evan Harrison, CEO of Kiss the Ground, is here to change that with an approach to regenerative agriculture designed to bring the concept into the mainstream through strategic storytelling.</p>
<p>Its impact is already being felt. This year, Kiss the Ground has produced 400 pieces of content to reach 2 million people monthly, turning farmers into the real rock stars of the movement.</p>
<p>In this conversation with Jennifer + Kati, Evan offers his data-driven approach to awareness building, how his music industry background at iHeartRadio and BMG shaped his nonprofit leadership style, and why leading with health instead of climate alarm is the key to resonating more and more. </p>
<p>Have a question for us?
Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>!</p>
<p>Learn more about Engaging ESG at <a href="bit.ly/EngagingESGpod">bit.ly/EngagingESGpod</a>.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.</p>
<p><strong>Show links</strong></p>
<p>Learn about: <a href="https://kisstheground.com/">Kiss the Ground</a></p>
<p>Watch: <a href="https://kissthegroundmovie.com/">Kiss the Ground documentary</a></p>
<p>Watch: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/DRNCdl4kRpl/">Stories of Regeneration with Dan Barber </a></p>
<p>Follow: <a href="https://kisstheground.com/storytelling/5-with-a-farmer/">5 with a Farmer<strong> </strong></a></p>
<p>Read: <a href="https://drawdown.org/the-book">Project Drawdown</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>The Bestest and Worstest of Times for ESG Comms EP 34</title>
      <description>This week, Jennifer and Kati sit down with Joel Makower, chairman and
co-founder of Trellis Group, for a candid conversation about the current state
of sustainability communications after 35+ years in the field.

Joel shares why we're living with higher highs and lower lows than ever
before. We explore the trust crisis affecting not just sustainability, but
business, media, science and government — and what it means for communicators
trying to make the case for climate action.

Joel also offers his advice for integrating head and heart through
storytelling, how to reframe sustainability as "better" rather than
sacrifice, and why ESG became a political landmine while the s-word endures.

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!

Learn more about Engaging ESG at bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.

Show Links

Learn more about Joel Makower

Visit Trellis

Watch: Joel Makower: Poetry in Motion

Listen: Smartless

Listen: So Many Steves: Afternoons with Steve
Martin

Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and
Elvin Vangard.
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      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2026 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Bestest and Worstest of Times for ESG Comms </itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>34</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This week, Jennifer and Kati sit down with Joel Makower, chairman and
co-founder of Trellis Group, for a candid conversation about the current state
of sustainability communications after 35+ years in the field.

Joel shares why we're living with higher highs and lower lows than ever
before. We explore the trust crisis affecting not just sustainability, but
business, media, science and government — and what it means for communicators
trying to make the case for climate action.

Joel also offers his advice for integrating head and heart through
storytelling, how to reframe sustainability as "better" rather than
sacrifice, and why ESG became a political landmine while the s-word endures.

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!

Learn more about Engaging ESG at bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.

Show Links

Learn more about Joel Makower

Visit Trellis

Watch: Joel Makower: Poetry in Motion

Listen: Smartless

Listen: So Many Steves: Afternoons with Steve
Martin

Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and
Elvin Vangard.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, Jennifer and Kati sit down with Joel Makower, chairman and
co-founder of Trellis Group, for a candid conversation about the current state
of sustainability communications after 35+ years in the field.</p>
<p>Joel shares why we're living with higher highs and lower lows than ever
before. We explore the trust crisis affecting not just sustainability, but
business, media, science and government — and what it means for communicators
trying to make the case for climate action.</p>
<p>Joel also offers his advice for integrating head and heart through
storytelling, how to reframe sustainability as "better" rather than
sacrifice, and why ESG became a political landmine while the s-word endures.</p>
<p>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>!</p>
<p>Learn more about Engaging ESG at <a href="https://bit.ly/EngagingESGpod">bit.ly/EngagingESGpod</a>.</p>
<p><strong>Show Links</strong></p>
<p>Learn more about <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/makower/">Joel Makower</a></p>
<p>Visit <a href="https://trellis.net/">Trellis</a></p>
<p>Watch: <a href="https://youtu.be/LbXXydJbcec?si=-NU0leYl6cTruAul">Joel Makower: Poetry in Motion</a></p>
<p>Listen: <a href="https://www.smartless.com/">Smartless</a></p>
<p>Listen: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2Ep7Nyddlt15JTC28uSayk">So Many Steves: Afternoons with Steve
Martin</a></p>
<p>Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and
Elvin Vangard.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Gaming for Good: Climate Action in Digital Worlds EP 33</title>
      <description>Climate and sustainability strategist Marina Psaros joins
Jennifer and Kati to explore an unexpected frontier for climate communications: the gaming world.

Marina shares her journey from NOAA scientist to Head of Sustainability at Unity Technologies, and how that experience revealed a massive untapped opportunity. With 3 billion people playing games worldwide,
gaming communities have become powerful "third spaces" where climate conversations are already happening, just without professional communicators at the table.

We also explore Marina's beautiful book, The Atlas of Disappearing Places, and why she chose to frame fossil fuel dependence as an addiction rather than an individual moral failing. Learn how this shift from blame to systemic thinking opens up more honest, actionable conversations about climate.

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!

Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠

Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.

Show Links

Learn more about Marina Psaros at marinapsaros.com.

Read: The Atlas of
Disappearing Places: Our Coasts and Oceans in the Climate Crisis

Read: Social strategies to
engage video gamers in climate action

Listen: Earthworks podcast
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      <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2026 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Gaming for Good: Climate Action in Digital Worlds</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>33</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Climate and sustainability strategist Marina Psaros joins
Jennifer and Kati to explore an unexpected frontier for climate communications: the gaming world.

Marina shares her journey from NOAA scientist to Head of Sustainability at Unity Technologies, and how that experience revealed a massive untapped opportunity. With 3 billion people playing games worldwide,
gaming communities have become powerful "third spaces" where climate conversations are already happening, just without professional communicators at the table.

We also explore Marina's beautiful book, The Atlas of Disappearing Places, and why she chose to frame fossil fuel dependence as an addiction rather than an individual moral failing. Learn how this shift from blame to systemic thinking opens up more honest, actionable conversations about climate.

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!

Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠

Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.

Show Links

Learn more about Marina Psaros at marinapsaros.com.

Read: The Atlas of
Disappearing Places: Our Coasts and Oceans in the Climate Crisis

Read: Social strategies to
engage video gamers in climate action

Listen: Earthworks podcast
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Climate and sustainability strategist Marina Psaros joins
Jennifer and Kati to explore an unexpected frontier for climate communications: the gaming world.</p>
<p>Marina shares her journey from NOAA scientist to Head of Sustainability at Unity Technologies, and how that experience revealed a massive untapped opportunity. With 3 billion people playing games worldwide,
gaming communities have become powerful "third spaces" where climate conversations are already happening, just without professional communicators at the table.</p>
<p>We also explore Marina's beautiful book, <em>The Atlas of Disappearing Places</em>, and why she chose to frame fossil fuel dependence as an addiction rather than an individual moral failing. Learn how this shift from blame to systemic thinking opens up more honest, actionable conversations about climate.</p>
<p>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>!</p>
<p>Learn more about Engaging ESG at <a href="https://www.bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.">⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠</a></p>
<p>Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.</p>
<p><strong>Show Links</strong></p>
<p>Learn more about<a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/marinapsaros/"> </a><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mpsaros/">Marina Psaros</a> at <a href="http://www.marinapsaros.com/">marinapsaros.com</a>.</p>
<p>Read:<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/609857/atlas-of-disappearing-places-by-christina-conklin-and-marina-psaros/"> </a><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Atlas-Disappearing-Places-Coasts-Climate/dp/1620974568"><em>The Atlas of
Disappearing Places: Our Coasts and Oceans in the Climate Crisis</em></a></p>
<p>Read: <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41558-025-02369-z.epdf?sharing_token=XafjXLO78lHrX4Wio_dCX9RgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0P_Z3IAYJ7dtoPOWK_w6czRDGeKeekdnCaaTSiwtTCXeJgRG5Zso5bUtkCNnoPWPuRM3bzwZiunitCVHsqNSL1QByk7ZbT-LHk-2mUmWVz2CVmgP4AUJpmHb0cFYkhIN64%3D"><em>Social strategies to
engage video gamers in climate action</em></a></p>
<p>Listen: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/33e0HqngSEeQ6JiOXddSwa">Earthworks podcast</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>The Story Is the Glue: Creating a Portfolio Career EP 32</title>
      <description>Michael Neuwirth has built what he calls a "portfolio career" — and after hearing his story, you'll want one too. 

The communications veteran spent 20+ years at Danone, served as the first Chief Communications Officer for the American Sustainable Business Council, and now angel invests in 14 sustainability-focused startups (from period equity solutions to upcycled food platforms). 

In this wide-ranging conversation, Michael reveals why authentic storytelling is the fabric that holds early-stage companies together, how sustainability communications evolved from charity golf outings and "chairman projects" to strategic business imperatives, and why comms professionals must expect — and not ask for — a seat at the decision-making table. 

Have a question for us?

Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!

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Show Links

Learn more about Michael Neuwirth

Watch: Pluribus

Listen: Desperately Seeking the 80s

 

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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2026 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Story Is the Glue: Creating a Portfolio Career</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>32</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Michael Neuwirth has built what he calls a "portfolio career" — and after hearing his story, you'll want one too. 

The communications veteran spent 20+ years at Danone, served as the first Chief Communications Officer for the American Sustainable Business Council, and now angel invests in 14 sustainability-focused startups (from period equity solutions to upcycled food platforms). 

In this wide-ranging conversation, Michael reveals why authentic storytelling is the fabric that holds early-stage companies together, how sustainability communications evolved from charity golf outings and "chairman projects" to strategic business imperatives, and why comms professionals must expect — and not ask for — a seat at the decision-making table. 

Have a question for us?

Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!

Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠



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Learn more about Michael Neuwirth

Watch: Pluribus

Listen: Desperately Seeking the 80s

 

Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.
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        <![CDATA[<p>Michael Neuwirth has built what he calls a "portfolio career" — and after hearing his story, you'll want one too. </p>
<p>The communications veteran spent 20+ years at Danone, served as the first Chief Communications Officer for the American Sustainable Business Council, and now angel invests in 14 sustainability-focused startups (from period equity solutions to upcycled food platforms). </p>
<p>In this wide-ranging conversation, Michael reveals why authentic storytelling is the fabric that holds early-stage companies together, how sustainability communications evolved from charity golf outings and "chairman projects" to strategic business imperatives, and why comms professionals must expect — and not ask for — a seat at the decision-making table. </p>
<p>Have a question for us?</p>
<p>Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>!</p>
<p>Learn more about Engaging ESG at <a href="https://www.bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.">⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Show Links</strong></p>
<p>Learn more about <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mjneuwirth/">Michael Neuwirth</a></p>
<p>Watch: <a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/episode/we-is-us/umc.cmc.3qfbkp7tcby9ylcjpx2km05p7?showId=umc.cmc.37axgovs2yozlyh3c2cmwzlza&amp;action=playSmartEpisode">Pluribus</a></p>
<p>Listen: <a href="https://www.desperately80s.com/">Desperately Seeking the 80s</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Engaging ESG is back for season 4! </title>
      <description>Engaging ESG returns for season 4 on January 7th.

Engaging ESG is a bimonthly series exploring the evolving landscape of ESG communications. Join Jennifer Owens, former external content strategy lead for Meta Sustainability, and Kati Kallins, former head of sustainability engagement at Meta, as they address the pitfalls and opportunities hidden in your ESG comms plan and provide practical answers you and your team can use today.


Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠






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      <itunes:title>Engaging ESG is back for season 4! </itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Engaging ESG returns for season 4 on January 7th.

Engaging ESG is a bimonthly series exploring the evolving landscape of ESG communications. Join Jennifer Owens, former external content strategy lead for Meta Sustainability, and Kati Kallins, former head of sustainability engagement at Meta, as they address the pitfalls and opportunities hidden in your ESG comms plan and provide practical answers you and your team can use today.


Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠






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        <![CDATA[<p>Engaging ESG returns for season 4 on January 7th.</p>
<p>Engaging ESG is a bimonthly series exploring the evolving landscape of ESG communications. Join Jennifer Owens, former external content strategy lead for Meta Sustainability, and Kati Kallins, former head of sustainability engagement at Meta, as they address the pitfalls and opportunities hidden in your ESG comms plan and provide practical answers you and your team can use today.
</p>
<p>Learn more about Engaging ESG at <a href="https://www.bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.">⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><br></p>
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      <title>New York Climate Week Reflections: A Brooklyn Debrief (Bonus Episode) EP 31</title>
      <description>Fresh from their first in-person meeting since launching Engaging ESG, Jennifer and Kati share candid reflections on New York Climate Week.

From experiencing Conservation International's immersive VR storytelling at Adobe's event at the LinkedIn offices to hearing powerful testimonies about carbon markets from Georgia landowners, they explore the week's standout moments. The conversation covers the shift from innovation-focused moonshots to practical implementation, the inspiring emphasis on collaboration across every session, and the heartening international presence despite political uncertainty.

Between subway adventures and a Jack-and-Rose moment at the Empire State Building, they reflect on how the sustainability community is maturing — moving beyond press releases to embedded business practices and building resilience for the long term.

Show Link: From the Ground Up:Voices of the Carbon Market

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!

Learn more about Engaging ESG at bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.

Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.
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      <pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2025 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>New York Climate Week Reflections: A Brooklyn Debrief (Bonus Episode)</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>31</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Fresh from their first in-person meeting since launching Engaging ESG, Jennifer and Kati share candid reflections on New York Climate Week.

From experiencing Conservation International's immersive VR storytelling at Adobe's event at the LinkedIn offices to hearing powerful testimonies about carbon markets from Georgia landowners, they explore the week's standout moments. The conversation covers the shift from innovation-focused moonshots to practical implementation, the inspiring emphasis on collaboration across every session, and the heartening international presence despite political uncertainty.

Between subway adventures and a Jack-and-Rose moment at the Empire State Building, they reflect on how the sustainability community is maturing — moving beyond press releases to embedded business practices and building resilience for the long term.

Show Link: From the Ground Up:Voices of the Carbon Market

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!

Learn more about Engaging ESG at bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.

Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.
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        <![CDATA[<p>Fresh from their first in-person meeting since launching Engaging ESG, Jennifer and Kati share candid reflections on New York Climate Week.</p>
<p>From experiencing Conservation International's immersive VR storytelling at Adobe's event at the LinkedIn offices to hearing powerful testimonies about carbon markets from Georgia landowners, they explore the week's standout moments. The conversation covers the shift from innovation-focused moonshots to practical implementation, the inspiring emphasis on collaboration across every session, and the heartening international presence despite political uncertainty.</p>
<p>Between subway adventures and a Jack-and-Rose moment at the Empire State Building, they reflect on how the sustainability community is maturing — moving beyond press releases to embedded business practices and building resilience for the long term.</p>
<p><strong>Show Link: </strong><a href="https://beyond-alliance.org/from-the-ground-up/">From the Ground Up:Voices of the Carbon Market</a></p>
<p>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>!</p>
<p>Learn more about Engaging ESG at <a href="https://www.bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.">bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.</a></p>
<p>Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Purpose-Driven Governance: Building a Sustainable Future EP 30</title>
      <description>Dr. Victoria Hurth joins Jennifer and Kati for our season finale to explore how purpose-driven governance can transform business decision-making for sustainability.

As co-designer of Cambridge Institute for Sustainability Leadership's course on sustainable marketing and a leader in the development of ISO 37011, Victoria explains why our current economic systems systematically undermine the well-being they claim to create.

Victoria also shares the three-horizon framework for understanding organizational transformation — from short-term self-interest to long-term self-interest to purpose-driven organizations optimizing for "long-term well-being for all" — and closes out our season by highlighting the abundance of positive human energy just waiting to be directed.

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!

Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠

Show links

Humankind: A Hopeful History by Rutger Bregman

Citizens: Why the Key to Fixing Everything is All of Us by Jon Alexander

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      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Purpose-Driven Governance: Building a Sustainable Future</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>30</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Dr. Victoria Hurth joins Jennifer and Kati for our season finale to explore how purpose-driven governance can transform business decision-making for sustainability.

As co-designer of Cambridge Institute for Sustainability Leadership's course on sustainable marketing and a leader in the development of ISO 37011, Victoria explains why our current economic systems systematically undermine the well-being they claim to create.

Victoria also shares the three-horizon framework for understanding organizational transformation — from short-term self-interest to long-term self-interest to purpose-driven organizations optimizing for "long-term well-being for all" — and closes out our season by highlighting the abundance of positive human energy just waiting to be directed.

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!

Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠

Show links

Humankind: A Hopeful History by Rutger Bregman

Citizens: Why the Key to Fixing Everything is All of Us by Jon Alexander

Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.

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        <![CDATA[<p>Dr. Victoria Hurth joins Jennifer and Kati for our season finale to explore how purpose-driven governance can transform business decision-making for sustainability.<br></p>
<p>As co-designer of Cambridge Institute for Sustainability Leadership's course on sustainable marketing and a leader in the development of ISO 37011, Victoria explains why our current economic systems systematically undermine the well-being they claim to create.<br></p>
<p>Victoria also shares the three-horizon framework for understanding organizational transformation — from short-term self-interest to long-term self-interest to purpose-driven organizations optimizing for "long-term well-being for all" — and closes out our season by highlighting the abundance of positive human energy just waiting to be directed.<br></p>
<p>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>!</p>
<p>Learn more about Engaging ESG at <a href="https://www.bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.">⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠</a><br></p>
<p><strong>Show links</strong></p>
<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Humankind-Hopeful-History-Rutger-Bregman/dp/0316418536">Humankind: A Hopeful History by Rutger Bregman</a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Citizens-Why-Key-Fixing-Everything/dp/191245484X">Citizens: Why the Key to Fixing Everything is All of Us by Jon Alexander</a><br></p>
<p>Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.
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      <title>Community-Centered Sustainability: Building Energy Equity From the Ground Up EP 29</title>
      <description>Daphany Rose Sanchez shares her powerful journey from growing up in New York City public housing to founding Kinetic Communities Consulting, a social enterprise transforming energy equity for underserved communities.

Daphany explains why effective climate solutions must meet people where they are, addressing immediate concerns like utility bills rather than abstract climate concepts alone. She demonstrates how building genuine trust with communities leads to more effective sustainability outcomes, while offering a refreshingly human-centered approach to clean energy initiatives that challenge the tech-focused status quo.

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!

Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠



Show links

Learn more about Daphany Rose Sanchez.

Explore Kinetic Communities Consulting.

Check out Power Up NYC, New York City's first long-term energy plan.



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      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2025 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Community-Centered Sustainability: Building Energy Equity From the Ground Up</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>29</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Daphany Rose Sanchez shares her powerful journey from growing up in New York City public housing to founding Kinetic Communities Consulting, a social enterprise transforming energy equity for underserved communities.

Daphany explains why effective climate solutions must meet people where they are, addressing immediate concerns like utility bills rather than abstract climate concepts alone. She demonstrates how building genuine trust with communities leads to more effective sustainability outcomes, while offering a refreshingly human-centered approach to clean energy initiatives that challenge the tech-focused status quo.

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!

Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠



Show links

Learn more about Daphany Rose Sanchez.

Explore Kinetic Communities Consulting.

Check out Power Up NYC, New York City's first long-term energy plan.



Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.
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        <![CDATA[<p>Daphany Rose Sanchez shares her powerful journey from growing up in New York City public housing to founding Kinetic Communities Consulting, a social enterprise transforming energy equity for underserved communities.</p>
<p>Daphany explains why effective climate solutions must meet people where they are, addressing immediate concerns like utility bills rather than abstract climate concepts alone. She demonstrates how building genuine trust with communities leads to more effective sustainability outcomes, while offering a refreshingly human-centered approach to clean energy initiatives that challenge the tech-focused status quo.</p>
<p>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>!</p>
<p>Learn more about Engaging ESG at <a href="https://www.bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.">⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Show links</strong></p>
<p>Learn more about <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/daphanysanchez/">Daphany Rose Sanchez</a>.</p>
<p>Explore <a href="https://www.kc3.nyc/">Kinetic Communities Consulting</a>.</p>
<p>Check out <a href="https://climate.cityofnewyork.us/initiatives/powerupnyc/">Power Up NYC</a>, New York City's first long-term energy plan.</p>
<p><br></p>
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      <title>Going Greener: Redefining Sustainable Products and Marketing EP 28</title>
      <description>This week, Jennifer and Kati sit down with Al Iannuzzi, Vice President of Sustainability at The Estée Lauder Companies, for a candid conversation about sustainable product evolution in today's challenging business landscape. 

Al shares his provocative perspective that "There's no such thing as a green product" and offers practical guidance on communicating sustainability improvements without greenwashing.  

Drawing from his book, "Greener Products," he also discusses how companies can balance economic pressures with growing stakeholder demands for sustainability. 

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 

Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠



Show links 

Learn more about Al Iannuzzi. 

Greener Products: The Making and Marketing of Sustainable Brands 

The Value of Values: How Leaders Can Grow Their Businesses and Enhance Their Careers by Doing the Right Thing 

Read Suzanne Shelton at ERM Shelton
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      <pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2025 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Going Greener: Redefining Sustainable Products and Marketing</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>28</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>This week, Jennifer and Kati sit down with Al Iannuzzi, Vice President of Sustainability at The Estée Lauder Companies, for a candid conversation about sustainable product evolution in today's challenging business landscape. 

Al shares his provocative perspective that "There's no such thing as a green product" and offers practical guidance on communicating sustainability improvements without greenwashing.  

Drawing from his book, "Greener Products," he also discusses how companies can balance economic pressures with growing stakeholder demands for sustainability. 

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 

Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠



Show links 

Learn more about Al Iannuzzi. 

Greener Products: The Making and Marketing of Sustainable Brands 

The Value of Values: How Leaders Can Grow Their Businesses and Enhance Their Careers by Doing the Right Thing 

Read Suzanne Shelton at ERM Shelton
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, Jennifer and Kati sit down with Al Iannuzzi, Vice President of Sustainability at The Estée Lauder Companies, for a candid conversation about sustainable product evolution in today's challenging business landscape. </p>
<p>Al shares his provocative perspective that "There's no such thing as a green product" and offers practical guidance on communicating sustainability improvements without greenwashing.  </p>
<p>Drawing from his book, "<em>Greener Products</em>," he also discusses how companies can balance economic pressures with growing stakeholder demands for sustainability. </p>
<p>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>! </p>
<p>Learn more about Engaging ESG at <a href="https://www.bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.">⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Show links </strong></p>
<p>Learn more about <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/al-iannuzzi/"><u>Al Iannuzzi</u>. </a></p>
<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Greener-Products-Making-Marketing-Sustainable/dp/1032579854/ref=asc_df_1032579854?mcid=4b845cba59113054b919758865f7cc51&amp;hvocijid=2757740546324705986-1032579854-&amp;hvexpln=73&amp;tag=hyprod-20&amp;linkCode=df0&amp;hvadid=730434177080&amp;hvpos=&amp;hvnetw=g&amp;hvrand=2757740546324705986&amp;hvpone=&amp;hvptwo=&amp;hvqmt=&amp;hvdev=c&amp;hvdvcmdl=&amp;hvlocint=&amp;hvlocphy=9004366&amp;hvtargid=pla-2281435177378&amp;psc=1"><em>Greener Products: The Making and Marketing of Sustainable Brands</em></a> </p>
<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Value-Values-Superpower-Business-Management/dp/0262048388"><em>The Value of Values: How Leaders Can Grow Their Businesses and Enhance Their Careers by Doing the Right Thing</em></a> </p>
<p><a href="https://www.sheltongrp.com/blog/#Newslettersignup"><u>Read Suzanne Shelton at ERM Shelton</u></a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Code, Climate &amp; Collaboration: Where Tech Meets Sustainability EP 27</title>
      <description>This week, Kati and Jennifer are joined by Paull Young, GitHub's first head of sustainability, for a wide-ranging discussion about leveraging technology to accelerate climate action.  

From green software to the role of artificial intelligence in climate solutions, our conversation explores how developers and technologists can contribute to sustainability goals, the realities of AI's energy footprint, and why giving people tangible ways to take action may be the best antidote to climate despair.  

Drawing from his experiences across multiple tech platforms, Paull offers his thoughtful perspective on why he remains optimistic about technology's potential to accelerate positive environmental change. 

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 

Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠

Learn more about Paull Young and listen to his podcast Climate Dads. 

Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. 
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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2025 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Code, Climate &amp; Collaboration: Where Tech Meets Sustainability</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>27</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This week, Kati and Jennifer are joined by Paull Young, GitHub's first head of sustainability, for a wide-ranging discussion about leveraging technology to accelerate climate action.  

From green software to the role of artificial intelligence in climate solutions, our conversation explores how developers and technologists can contribute to sustainability goals, the realities of AI's energy footprint, and why giving people tangible ways to take action may be the best antidote to climate despair.  

Drawing from his experiences across multiple tech platforms, Paull offers his thoughtful perspective on why he remains optimistic about technology's potential to accelerate positive environmental change. 

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 

Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠

Learn more about Paull Young and listen to his podcast Climate Dads. 

Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. 
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, Kati and Jennifer are joined by Paull Young, GitHub's first head of sustainability, for a wide-ranging discussion about leveraging technology to accelerate climate action.  </p>
<p>From green software to the role of artificial intelligence in climate solutions, our conversation explores how developers and technologists can contribute to sustainability goals, the realities of AI's energy footprint, and why giving people tangible ways to take action may be the best antidote to climate despair.  </p>
<p>Drawing from his experiences across multiple tech platforms, Paull offers his thoughtful perspective on why he remains optimistic about technology's potential to accelerate positive environmental change. </p>
<p>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com"><u>engagingesg@gmail.com</u></a>! </p>
<p>Learn more about Engaging ESG at <a href="https://www.bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.">⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠</a></p>
<p>Learn more about <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/paullyoung/"><u>Paull Young</u></a> and listen to his podcast <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-1-introducing-climate-dads-with-glen-henry/id1720871738?i=1000638957949"><u>Climate Dads.</u></a> </p>
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      <title>Teaching Sustainability: Business Schools at a Crossroads EP 26</title>
      <description>Professor Robert Barlow from Hult International Business School joins Jennifer + Kati to explore how business schools can effectively teach sustainability and ESG in an evolving political landscape. From building Hult's highly-ranked sustainability curriculum to his current research on Chief Sustainability Officers, Rob discusses why business education needs to develop new frameworks for measuring impact, why sustainability roles can't simply be distributed across organizations, and how today's MBA students are approaching these topics differently than previous generations. 



Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 

Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠



Learn more about Rob Barlow. 



Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. 



Episode Links 

Cormac McCarthy: Blood Meridian: Or the Evening Redness in the West 

The Brothers Karamazov 

Return on Sustainability Investment research at NYU 
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      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2025 00:32:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Teaching Sustainability: Business Schools at a Crossroads</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>26</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Professor Robert Barlow from Hult International Business School joins Jennifer + Kati to explore how business schools can effectively teach sustainability and ESG in an evolving political landscape. From building Hult's highly-ranked sustainability curriculum to his current research on Chief Sustainability Officers, Rob discusses why business education needs to develop new frameworks for measuring impact, why sustainability roles can't simply be distributed across organizations, and how today's MBA students are approaching these topics differently than previous generations. 



Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 

Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠



Learn more about Rob Barlow. 



Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. 



Episode Links 

Cormac McCarthy: Blood Meridian: Or the Evening Redness in the West 

The Brothers Karamazov 

Return on Sustainability Investment research at NYU 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Professor Robert Barlow from Hult International Business School joins Jennifer + Kati to explore how business schools can effectively teach sustainability and ESG in an evolving political landscape. From building Hult's highly-ranked sustainability curriculum to his current research on Chief Sustainability Officers, Rob discusses why business education needs to develop new frameworks for measuring impact, why sustainability roles can't simply be distributed across organizations, and how today's MBA students are approaching these topics differently than previous generations. </p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>! </p>
<p>Learn more about Engaging ESG at <a href="https://www.bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.">⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Learn more about <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-barlow-phd/">Rob Barlow</a>. </p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. </p>
<p><br></p>
<p><strong>Episode Links</strong> </p>
<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Blood-Meridian-Evening-Redness-West/dp/0679728759">Cormac McCarthy: Blood Meridian: Or the Evening Redness in the West</a> </p>
<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Brothers-Karamazov-Fyodor-Dostoevsky/dp/0374528373">The Brothers Karamazov</a> </p>
<p><a href="https://www.stern.nyu.edu/experience-stern/about/departments-centers-initiatives/centers-of-research/center-sustainable-business/research/return-sustainability-investment-rosi">Return on Sustainability Investment research</a> at NYU </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>From Film to Impact: A Conversation with Jarami Bond EP 25</title>
      <description>In this episode, Jennifer + Kati are joined by Jarami Bond, founder of Bond Studio and Green Biz 30 Under 30 alum, who shares his unique approach to impact storytelling through film. From his experience at Interface and GreenBiz to founding a mission-driven production company, Jarami explores how to tell authentic stories that honor communities while advancing environmental and social impact. He discusses navigating the current political climate, the importance of pre-production in storytelling, and why taking time to build trust leads to more meaningful outcomes. 

 

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 

Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠

 

Learn more about Jarami Bond's work in sustainable storytelling at Bond Studio. 

 

Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. 

 

Episode Links 

 

The Night Agent 

 

Washington Commanders  
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      <itunes:title>From Film to Impact: A Conversation with Jarami Bond</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>25</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Jennifer + Kati are joined by Jarami Bond, founder of Bond Studio and Green Biz 30 Under 30 alum, who shares his unique approach to impact storytelling through film. From his experience at Interface and GreenBiz to founding a mission-driven production company, Jarami explores how to tell authentic stories that honor communities while advancing environmental and social impact. He discusses navigating the current political climate, the importance of pre-production in storytelling, and why taking time to build trust leads to more meaningful outcomes. 

 

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 

Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠

 

Learn more about Jarami Bond's work in sustainable storytelling at Bond Studio. 

 

Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. 

 

Episode Links 

 

The Night Agent 

 

Washington Commanders  
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Jennifer + Kati are joined by Jarami Bond, founder of Bond Studio and Green Biz 30 Under 30 alum, who shares his unique approach to impact storytelling through film. From his experience at Interface and GreenBiz to founding a mission-driven production company, Jarami explores how to tell authentic stories that honor communities while advancing environmental and social impact. He discusses navigating the current political climate, the importance of pre-production in storytelling, and why taking time to build trust leads to more meaningful outcomes. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>! </p>
<p>Learn more about Engaging ESG at <a href="https://www.bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.">⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Learn more about Jarami Bond's work in sustainable storytelling at <a href="https://www.bond-studio.com/">Bond Studio.</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. </p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>Episode Links </strong></p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81450827">The Night Agent</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href="https://www.commanders.com/">Washington Commanders</a>  </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Progress Over Perfection: Communicating Sustainability in Turbulent Times EP 24</title>
      <description>In a fascinating conversation about sustainability communications in turbulent times, Louise Wilson, SVP of Partnerships at Futerra, joins Jennifer and Kati to share insights from her decade of helping global brands drive environmental and social impact. From navigating shifting political landscapes to the power of consumer activism in 2025, Louise explores how companies can effectively communicate their ESG efforts by focusing on progress over perfection, breaking down silos between teams, and making sustainability messaging accessible to all. 

 

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 

Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠

 

Learn more about Louise Wilson. 

 

Learn more about Futerra at wearefuterra.com. 

 

Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. 

 

Show Links 

 

Bad Sisters 

 

Sex Education 
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      <itunes:title>Progress Over Perfection: Communicating Sustainability in Turbulent Times</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:episode>24</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>In a fascinating conversation about sustainability communications in turbulent times, Louise Wilson, SVP of Partnerships at Futerra, joins Jennifer and Kati to share insights from her decade of helping global brands drive environmental and social impact. From navigating shifting political landscapes to the power of consumer activism in 2025, Louise explores how companies can effectively communicate their ESG efforts by focusing on progress over perfection, breaking down silos between teams, and making sustainability messaging accessible to all. 

 

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 

Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠

 

Learn more about Louise Wilson. 

 

Learn more about Futerra at wearefuterra.com. 

 

Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. 

 

Show Links 

 

Bad Sisters 

 

Sex Education 
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        <![CDATA[<p>In a fascinating conversation about sustainability communications in turbulent times, Louise Wilson, SVP of Partnerships at Futerra, joins Jennifer and Kati to share insights from her decade of helping global brands drive environmental and social impact. From navigating shifting political landscapes to the power of consumer activism in 2025, Louise explores how companies can effectively communicate their ESG efforts by focusing on progress over perfection, breaking down silos between teams, and making sustainability messaging accessible to all. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>! </p>
<p>Learn more about Engaging ESG at <a href="https://www.bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.">⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠</a></p>
<p> </p>
<p>Learn more about <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/louisewilson/">Louise Wilson.</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Learn more about Futerra at <a href="https://wearefuterra.com/">wearefuterra.com</a>. </p>
<p> </p>
<p>Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. </p>
<p> </p>
<p><strong>Show Links </strong></p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/bad-sisters/umc.cmc.14kr4vv65unannh7doqgvlh20">Bad Sisters</a> </p>
<p> </p>
<p><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80197526">Sex Education</a> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Sustainability Comms in 2025: Fighting the Good Fight EP 23</title>
      <description>What happens when sustainability communications meets pushback? This week, Kati and Jennifer are joined by Mike Hower, founder of Hower Impact and host of The Sustainability Communicator podcast, for a candid discussion about the state of ESG and sustainability communications in 2025.

From the evolution of corporate sustainability messaging to navigating today's fragmented media landscape, Mike shares insights on why sustainability professionals need to think beyond their echo chambers and how to build narratives that resonate in challenging times. The conversation explores historical parallels with other social movements, the importance of picking strategic battles, and why reading beyond sustainability literature might make us better communicators.



Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!

Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠



Learn more about Mike Hower's work, subscribe to his Engage newsletter and find The Sustainability Communicator podcast at howerimpact.com.

Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.
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      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2025 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Sustainability Comms in 2025: Fighting the Good Fight</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>23</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>What happens when sustainability communications meets pushback? This week, Kati and Jennifer are joined by Mike Hower, founder of Hower Impact and host of The Sustainability Communicator podcast, for a candid discussion about the state of ESG and sustainability communications in 2025.

From the evolution of corporate sustainability messaging to navigating today's fragmented media landscape, Mike shares insights on why sustainability professionals need to think beyond their echo chambers and how to build narratives that resonate in challenging times. The conversation explores historical parallels with other social movements, the importance of picking strategic battles, and why reading beyond sustainability literature might make us better communicators.



Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!

Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠



Learn more about Mike Hower's work, subscribe to his Engage newsletter and find The Sustainability Communicator podcast at howerimpact.com.

Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What happens when sustainability communications meets pushback? This week, Kati and Jennifer are joined by Mike Hower, founder of Hower Impact and host of The Sustainability Communicator podcast, for a candid discussion about the state of ESG and sustainability communications in 2025.</p>
<p>From the evolution of corporate sustainability messaging to navigating today's fragmented media landscape, Mike shares insights on why sustainability professionals need to think beyond their echo chambers and how to build narratives that resonate in challenging times. The conversation explores historical parallels with other social movements, the importance of picking strategic battles, and why reading beyond sustainability literature might make us better communicators.</p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>!</p>
<p>Learn more about Engaging ESG at <a href="https://www.bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.">⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠</a></p>
<p><br></p>
<p>Learn more about Mike Hower's work, subscribe to his Engage newsletter and find The Sustainability Communicator podcast at <a href="https://howerimpact.com/">howerimpact.com</a>.</p>
<p>Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Purple Unicorns: The Hunt for Sustainability Talent EP 22</title>
      <description>What does it take to land (or hire for) a sustainability role in 2025? This week, Kati and Jennifer are joined by Richard Kent, Head of Research for North America; and Catherine Harris, Executive Director, Sustainable Business, Americas, at Acre, a leading sustainability recruiter for more than two decades.

From "kitchen sink" job descriptions to the value of sustainability courses, our guests share candid insights about what companies are really looking for, how sustainability roles are maturing, and why change management may be the most critical skill for senior sustainability leaders.

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 

Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠

Learn more about Richard Kent. 

Learn more about Catherine Harris.  

Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. 
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      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2025 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Purple Unicorns: The Hunt for Sustainability Talent</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>22</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>What does it take to land (or hire for) a sustainability role in 2025? This week, Kati and Jennifer are joined by Richard Kent, Head of Research for North America; and Catherine Harris, Executive Director, Sustainable Business, Americas, at Acre, a leading sustainability recruiter for more than two decades.

From "kitchen sink" job descriptions to the value of sustainability courses, our guests share candid insights about what companies are really looking for, how sustainability roles are maturing, and why change management may be the most critical skill for senior sustainability leaders.

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 

Learn more about Engaging ESG at ⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠

Learn more about Richard Kent. 

Learn more about Catherine Harris.  

Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. 
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        <![CDATA[<p>What does it take to land (or hire for) a sustainability role in 2025? This week, Kati and Jennifer are joined by Richard Kent, Head of Research for North America; and Catherine Harris, Executive Director, Sustainable Business, Americas, at Acre, a leading sustainability recruiter for more than two decades.</p>
<p>From "kitchen sink" job descriptions to the value of sustainability courses, our guests share candid insights about what companies are really looking for, how sustainability roles are maturing, and why change management may be the most critical skill for senior sustainability leaders.</p>
<p>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>! </p>
<p>Learn more about Engaging ESG at <a href="https://www.bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.">⁠bit.ly/EngagingESGpod.⁠</a></p>
<p>Learn more about <a href="https://www.acre.com/en-US/consultants/richard-kent">Richard Kent</a>. </p>
<p>Learn more about <a href="https://www.acre.com/consultants/catherine-harris">Catherine Harris.</a>  </p>
<p>Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2065</itunes:duration>
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      <title>The Future of Corporate Climate Action EP 21</title>
      <description>Sustainability expert Lyrica McTiernan joins Jennifer and Kati to explore how companies are navigating the evolving world of corporate climate commitments. From the shifting terminology of ESG to the emergence of climate transition plans, they discuss what's working, what's broken, and why 2025 could be a pivotal year for corporate environmental action.

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com
Learn more about Lyrica McTiernan at lyricaconsults.com.
Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.
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      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2025 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>The Future of Corporate Climate Action</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>21</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Sustainability expert Lyrica McTiernan joins Jennifer and Kati to explore how companies are navigating the evolving world of corporate climate commitments. From the shifting terminology of ESG to the emergence of climate transition plans, they discuss what's working, what's broken, and why 2025 could be a pivotal year for corporate environmental action.

Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com
Learn more about Lyrica McTiernan at lyricaconsults.com.
Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sustainability expert Lyrica McTiernan joins Jennifer and Kati to explore how companies are navigating the evolving world of corporate climate commitments. From the shifting terminology of ESG to the emergence of climate transition plans, they discuss what's working, what's broken, and why 2025 could be a pivotal year for corporate environmental action.</p><p><br></p><p>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a></p><p>Learn more about Lyrica McTiernan at <a href="https://www.lyricaconsults.com/">lyricaconsults.com</a>.</p><p>Our theme music is "Lost in Translation" by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Engaging ESG Season 3 Trailer</title>
      <description>Engaging ESG is a bimonthly series exploring the evolving landscape of ESG communications. Join Jennifer Owens, senior director of marketing at CEEZER, and Kati Kallins, global sustainability lead at Adobe, as they talk with fellow ESG pros to address the pitfalls and possibilities hidden in each of our ESG comms plans — and provide practical answers you and your team can use today.
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      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Feb 2025 09:45:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Engaging ESG Season 3 Trailer</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>trailer</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Engaging ESG is a bimonthly series exploring the evolving landscape of ESG communications. Join Jennifer Owens, senior director of marketing at CEEZER, and Kati Kallins, global sustainability lead at Adobe, as they talk with fellow ESG pros to address the pitfalls and possibilities hidden in each of our ESG comms plans — and provide practical answers you and your team can use today.
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        <![CDATA[<p>Engaging ESG is a bimonthly series exploring the evolving landscape of ESG communications. Join Jennifer Owens, senior director of marketing at CEEZER, and Kati Kallins, global sustainability lead at Adobe, as they talk with fellow ESG pros to address the pitfalls and possibilities hidden in each of our ESG comms plans — and provide practical answers you and your team can use today.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>ESG: Past, Present, Future EP 20</title>
      <description>We’re ending Season Two by tackling the question we’ve all been asked at one time or another: Why should we care about ESG?  
In this episode, Kati and Jennifer look at our history, from the early concepts of a “license to operate,” to today’s increasing regulations around sustainability claims coming from both EMEA and the U.S.  
As Mike Wallace, decarbonization officer at Persefoni, states: “You’re going to have to figure out what’s the language you’re going to use to stay in compliance, but also continue to do business with your biggest customers asking you for sustainability, carbon data or ESG data.” 
Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. 
Episode Links 
Science Based Targets 
Updated - Corporate Social Responsibility: A Brief History 
“Nobody Wants to Work Anymore” on Instagram 
America’s ESG Hiring Boom Is Starting to Cool 
Companies Say Push to Decarbonize Comes From Their Own Boards - WSJ 
MPP Global Project Tracker 
ESG is everything you do 
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      <pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2024 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>ESG: Past, Present, Future</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>20</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>We’re ending Season Two by tackling the question we’ve all been asked at one time or another: Why should we care about ESG?  
In this episode, Kati and Jennifer look at our history, from the early concepts of a “license to operate,” to today’s increasing regulations around sustainability claims coming from both EMEA and the U.S.  
As Mike Wallace, decarbonization officer at Persefoni, states: “You’re going to have to figure out what’s the language you’re going to use to stay in compliance, but also continue to do business with your biggest customers asking you for sustainability, carbon data or ESG data.” 
Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. 
Episode Links 
Science Based Targets 
Updated - Corporate Social Responsibility: A Brief History 
“Nobody Wants to Work Anymore” on Instagram 
America’s ESG Hiring Boom Is Starting to Cool 
Companies Say Push to Decarbonize Comes From Their Own Boards - WSJ 
MPP Global Project Tracker 
ESG is everything you do 
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        <![CDATA[<p>We’re ending Season Two by tackling the question we’ve all been asked at one time or another: Why should we care about ESG?  </p><p>In this episode, Kati and Jennifer look at our history, from the early concepts of a “license to operate,” to today’s increasing regulations around sustainability claims coming from both EMEA and the U.S.  </p><p>As Mike Wallace, decarbonization officer at Persefoni, states: “You’re going to have to figure out what’s the language you’re going to use to stay in compliance, but also continue to do business with your biggest customers asking you for sustainability, carbon data or ESG data.” </p><p>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>! </p><p>Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. </p><p><strong>Episode Links </strong></p><p><a href="https://sciencebasedtargets.org/about-us#:~:text=By%20the%20end%20of%202023,them%20validated%20by%20the%20SBTi">Science Based Targets</a> </p><p><a href="https://accp.org/resources/csr-resources/accp-insights-blog/corporate-social-responsibility-brief-history/">Updated - Corporate Social Responsibility: A Brief History</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.instagram.com/p/C5v4WFVgG_R/?igsh=MXAwdXBjaGlnYTV0cg==">“Nobody Wants to Work Anymore” on Instagram</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/americas-esg-hiring-boom-is-starting-to-cool-2dd1e0de">America’s ESG Hiring Boom Is Starting to Cool</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.wsj.com/articles/companies-say-push-to-decarbonize-comesfrom-their-own-boards-b1f4fd0b">Companies Say Push to Decarbonize Comes From Their Own Boards - WSJ</a> </p><p><a href="https://tracker.missionpossiblepartnership.org/mpp-global-projects-map/">MPP Global Project Tracker</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdcmCsoYJdM">ESG is everything you do</a> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Scoping Out Supply Chain EP 19</title>
      <description>Scope 3 emissions are the big beast many companies must tackle to truly reduce their carbon footprint. In this episode, Jennifer and Kati explore how major companies like Walmart are going beyond their own operations to drive emissions reductions across their vast supply chain. They also look at what lies beyond Scope 3 in the journey towards true net zero. 
Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. 

Episode Links 
CEO Doug McMillon: Walmart’s supply chain cut 1 billion tons of emissions 6 years ahead of schedule | GreenBiz 
Walmart reaches halfway to Project Gigaton | GreenBiz 
Why a Sustainable Supply Chain Should Be a Business Imperative | Progressive Grocer 
Scoping out: Tracking nature across the supply chain - CDP 
The SBTi releases new reports to help accelerate corporate climate action beyond the value chain 
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      <pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2024 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Scoping Out Supply Chain</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>19</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Scope 3 emissions are the big beast many companies must tackle to truly reduce their carbon footprint. In this episode, Jennifer and Kati explore how major companies like Walmart are going beyond their own operations to drive emissions reductions across their vast supply chain. They also look at what lies beyond Scope 3 in the journey towards true net zero. 
Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. 

Episode Links 
CEO Doug McMillon: Walmart’s supply chain cut 1 billion tons of emissions 6 years ahead of schedule | GreenBiz 
Walmart reaches halfway to Project Gigaton | GreenBiz 
Why a Sustainable Supply Chain Should Be a Business Imperative | Progressive Grocer 
Scoping out: Tracking nature across the supply chain - CDP 
The SBTi releases new reports to help accelerate corporate climate action beyond the value chain 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Scope 3 emissions are the big beast many companies must tackle to truly reduce their carbon footprint. In this episode, Jennifer and Kati explore how major companies like Walmart are going beyond their own operations to drive emissions reductions across their vast supply chain. They also look at what lies beyond Scope 3 in the journey towards true net zero. </p><p>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>! </p><p>Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Episode Links </strong></p><p><a href="https://www.greenbiz.com/article/ceo-doug-mcmillon-walmarts-supply-chain-cut-1-billion-tons-emissions-6-years-ahead-schedule">CEO Doug McMillon: Walmart’s supply chain cut 1 billion tons of emissions 6 years ahead of schedule | GreenBiz</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.greenbiz.com/article/walmart-reaches-halfway-project-gigaton">Walmart reaches halfway to Project Gigaton | GreenBiz</a> </p><p><a href="https://progressivegrocer.com/exclusive-why-sustainable-supply-chain-should-be-business-imperative">Why a Sustainable Supply Chain Should Be a Business Imperative | Progressive Grocer</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.cdp.net/en/research/global-reports/scoping-out-tracking-nature-across-the-supply-chain">Scoping out: Tracking nature across the supply chain - CDP</a> </p><p><a href="https://sciencebasedtargets.org/news/the-sbti-releases-new-reports-to-help-accelerate-corporate-climate-action-beyond-the-value-chain">The SBTi releases new reports to help accelerate corporate climate action beyond the value chain</a> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1982</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Our Built Environment EP 18</title>
      <description>From the roofs over our heads to the floors beneath our feet, the environment built around us surrounds us an estimated 90% of our day — everyday.  
In this episode, Kati and Jennifer consider what it takes to make our homes and workplaces healthy, from our carpets, desks and office chairs to massive green roofs designed to support biodiversity.  
Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.  
Episode Links 
Google I/O 2021: Being helpful in moments that matter 
New progress toward our 24/7 carbon-free energy goal 
Building with Mushrooms to Reduce Drywall Waste | landfill, sustainability 
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      <pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2024 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Our Built Environment</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>18</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>From the roofs over our heads to the floors beneath our feet, the environment built around us surrounds us an estimated 90% of our day — everyday.  
In this episode, Kati and Jennifer consider what it takes to make our homes and workplaces healthy, from our carpets, desks and office chairs to massive green roofs designed to support biodiversity.  
Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.  
Episode Links 
Google I/O 2021: Being helpful in moments that matter 
New progress toward our 24/7 carbon-free energy goal 
Building with Mushrooms to Reduce Drywall Waste | landfill, sustainability 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>From the roofs over our heads to the floors beneath our feet, the environment built around us surrounds us an estimated 90% of our day — everyday.  </p><p>In this episode, Kati and Jennifer consider what it takes to make our homes and workplaces healthy, from our carpets, desks and office chairs to massive green roofs designed to support biodiversity.  </p><p>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>! </p><p>Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.  </p><p><strong>Episode Links </strong></p><p><a href="https://blog.google/technology/developers/io21-helpful-google/">Google I/O 2021: Being helpful in moments that matter</a> </p><p><a href="https://blog.google/outreach-initiatives/sustainability/new-progress-toward-our-247-carbon-free-energy-goal/">New progress toward our 24/7 carbon-free energy goal</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.facebook.com/sustainability/videos/building-with-mushrooms-to-reduce-drywall-waste/539756888072037/">Building with Mushrooms to Reduce Drywall Waste | landfill, sustainability</a> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2460</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Revving Up for Automotive EP 17</title>
      <description>When it comes to the road ahead there are no easy fixes, only continuing progress, for the automotive industry. Relatable education on the nuances, trade-offs and limitations in play across vehicles, supply chains and business models are key but so are activist voices.  
In this episode, Kati and I flip the script and explore climate activist messaging targeting the auto industry, focusing on great examples of emotional, visceral and innovative creative work — while also assessing their impact on the industry overall. 
Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. 

Episode Links 
We Tried to Warn You! Environmental Crisis Posters, 1970–2020 
‘Crying Indian’ Ad That Targeted Pollution to Be Retired - The New York Times 
Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda talks about why he isn't all-in on EVs — and what made him do a 'happy dance' 
How to make automotive companies sustainable | EY - Global 
US Could Become Odd Market Out in EV Success Story 
Fake ads mocking corporate sponsors of the COP21 climate talks pop up in Paris | CBC News 
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      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2024 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Revving Up for Automotive</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>17</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>When it comes to the road ahead there are no easy fixes, only continuing progress, for the automotive industry. Relatable education on the nuances, trade-offs and limitations in play across vehicles, supply chains and business models are key but so are activist voices.  
In this episode, Kati and I flip the script and explore climate activist messaging targeting the auto industry, focusing on great examples of emotional, visceral and innovative creative work — while also assessing their impact on the industry overall. 
Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. 

Episode Links 
We Tried to Warn You! Environmental Crisis Posters, 1970–2020 
‘Crying Indian’ Ad That Targeted Pollution to Be Retired - The New York Times 
Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda talks about why he isn't all-in on EVs — and what made him do a 'happy dance' 
How to make automotive companies sustainable | EY - Global 
US Could Become Odd Market Out in EV Success Story 
Fake ads mocking corporate sponsors of the COP21 climate talks pop up in Paris | CBC News 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>When it comes to the road ahead there are no easy fixes, only continuing progress, for the automotive industry. Relatable education on the nuances, trade-offs and limitations in play across vehicles, supply chains and business models are key but so are activist voices.  </p><p>In this episode, Kati and I flip the script and explore climate activist messaging targeting the auto industry, focusing on great examples of emotional, visceral and innovative creative work — while also assessing their impact on the industry overall. </p><p>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>! </p><p>Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Episode Links </strong></p><p><a href="https://posterhouse.org/exhibition/we-tried-to-warn-you-environmental-crisis-posters-1970-2020/">We Tried to Warn You! Environmental Crisis Posters, 1970–2020</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/27/us/native-american-pollution-ad.html">‘Crying Indian’ Ad That Targeted Pollution to Be Retired - The New York Times</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/02/toyota-ceo-akio-toyoda-electric-vehicles-happy-dance.html">Toyota CEO Akio Toyoda talks about why he isn't all-in on EVs — and what made him do a 'happy dance'</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.ey.com/en_gl/automotive-transportation/how-to-make-automotive-companies-sustainable">How to make automotive companies sustainable | EY - Global</a> </p><p><a href="https://about.bnef.com/blog/us-could-become-odd-market-out-in-ev-success-story/">US Could Become Odd Market Out in EV Success Story</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.cbc.ca/news/trending/paris-climate-talks-fake-ads-corporate-sponsors-brandalism-1.3345916">Fake ads mocking corporate sponsors of the COP21 climate talks pop up in Paris | CBC News</a> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1862</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Playing Fair for a Just Transition EP 16</title>
      <description>Just Transition seeks to build economic and political power for communities to move away from extractive systems towards regenerative ones — but what will take to get there? 
In this episode, Jennifer + Kati consider the frameworks and elements that fuels the work towards a just transition, including reparations, social equity as well as decentralizing production/consumption. 
Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. 

Episode Links 
Just Transition - Climate Justice Alliance 
Plenty Opens World’s Most Technologically Advanced Indoor Vertical Farm in Compton 
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      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Apr 2024 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Playing Fair for a Just Transition</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>16</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Just Transition seeks to build economic and political power for communities to move away from extractive systems towards regenerative ones — but what will take to get there? 
In this episode, Jennifer + Kati consider the frameworks and elements that fuels the work towards a just transition, including reparations, social equity as well as decentralizing production/consumption. 
Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. 

Episode Links 
Just Transition - Climate Justice Alliance 
Plenty Opens World’s Most Technologically Advanced Indoor Vertical Farm in Compton 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Just Transition seeks to build economic and political power for communities to move away from extractive systems towards regenerative ones — but what will take to get there? </p><p>In this episode, Jennifer + Kati consider the frameworks and elements that fuels the work towards a just transition, including reparations, social equity as well as decentralizing production/consumption. </p><p>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>! </p><p>Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. </p><p><br></p><p><strong>Episode Links </strong></p><p><a href="https://climatejusticealliance.org/just-transition/">Just Transition - Climate Justice Alliance</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230518005381/en/Plenty-Opens-World%E2%80%99s-Most-Technologically-Advanced-Indoor-Vertical-Farm-in-Compton">Plenty Opens World’s Most Technologically Advanced Indoor Vertical Farm in Compton</a> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2152</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Investing in Banking + Insurance EP 15</title>
      <description>The finance sector is key to unlocking the system-wide change needed to reach net-zero emissions and a recent survey finds the vast majority of senior investors and business executives planning to increase their ESG investment over the next five years.
In this episode, Kati + Jennifer consider where financial institutions are investing and lending money — and how major players like Blackrock, Citi and Chubb are responding to stakeholder pressures.
Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.
 
Episode Links
Thereal impact of the ESG backlash
Investors,Businesses to Increase ESG Investment Despite Greenwashing Scrutiny &amp;
Political Pushback: Bloomberg Survey
Sustainability in Insurance - MetLife, Liberty Mutual &amp;HSBC
ChubbAnnounces New Climate and Conservation-Focused Underwriting Standards for Oiland Gas Extraction - Mar 22, 2023
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      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2024 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Investing in Banking + Insurance</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>15</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>The finance sector is key to unlocking the system-wide change needed to reach net-zero emissions and a recent survey finds the vast majority of senior investors and business executives planning to increase their ESG investment over the next five years.
In this episode, Kati + Jennifer consider where financial institutions are investing and lending money — and how major players like Blackrock, Citi and Chubb are responding to stakeholder pressures.
Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.
 
Episode Links
Thereal impact of the ESG backlash
Investors,Businesses to Increase ESG Investment Despite Greenwashing Scrutiny &amp;
Political Pushback: Bloomberg Survey
Sustainability in Insurance - MetLife, Liberty Mutual &amp;HSBC
ChubbAnnounces New Climate and Conservation-Focused Underwriting Standards for Oiland Gas Extraction - Mar 22, 2023
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The finance sector is key to unlocking the system-wide change needed to reach net-zero emissions and a recent survey finds the vast majority of senior investors and business executives planning to increase their ESG investment over the next five years.</p><p>In this episode, Kati + Jennifer consider where financial institutions are investing and lending money — and how major players like Blackrock, Citi and Chubb are responding to stakeholder pressures.</p><p>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>!</p><p>Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.</p><p> </p><p><strong>Episode Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://www.ft.com/content/a76c7feb-7fa5-43d6-8e20-b4e4967991e7">Thereal impact of the ESG backlash</a></p><p><a href="https://www.esgtoday.com/investors-executives-to-increase-esg-investment-despite-greenwashing-scrutiny-political-pushback-bloomberg-survey/">Investors,Businesses to Increase ESG Investment Despite Greenwashing Scrutiny &amp;</a></p><p><a href="https://www.esgtoday.com/investors-executives-to-increase-esg-investment-despite-greenwashing-scrutiny-political-pushback-bloomberg-survey/">Political Pushback: Bloomberg Survey</a></p><p><a href="https://www.business.us.hsbc.com/en/insights/sustainability/sustainability-in-insurance-industry?gclid=CjwKCAiA9ourBhAVEiwA3L5RFqDA_8KXJIJFzXn5dPMqZjG44w7S7mnuT-q2BD5o2on6mbzrIt76IBoCwKsQAvD_BwE&amp;gclsrc=aw.ds">Sustainability in Insurance - MetLife, Liberty Mutual &amp;HSBC</a></p><p><a href="https://news.chubb.com/2023-03-22-Chubb-Announces-New-Climate-and-Conservation-Focused-Underwriting-Standards-for-Oil-and-Gas-Extraction">ChubbAnnounces New Climate and Conservation-Focused Underwriting Standards for Oiland Gas Extraction - Mar 22, 2023</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Driving Into Shipping + Trucking EP 14</title>
      <description>This week, Kati and Jennifer drive up a semi-sequel to our retail and packaging episode — as in what comes next when it comes to getting food into your fridge and your clothes in your closet.  
Shipping and trucking are complicated industries that touch nearly every aspect of our lives. In this episode we’ll consider how ESG professionals are communicating a puzzle that consists of a zillion interlocking pieces and impacts legions of stakeholders. 
Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. 
Episode Links 
California Pushes Electric Trucks as the Future of Freight - The New York Times 
Outrage and Optimism Podcast: Greening Shipping 
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      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Mar 2024 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Driving Into Shipping + Trucking</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>14</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This week, Kati and Jennifer drive up a semi-sequel to our retail and packaging episode — as in what comes next when it comes to getting food into your fridge and your clothes in your closet.  
Shipping and trucking are complicated industries that touch nearly every aspect of our lives. In this episode we’ll consider how ESG professionals are communicating a puzzle that consists of a zillion interlocking pieces and impacts legions of stakeholders. 
Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com! 
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. 
Episode Links 
California Pushes Electric Trucks as the Future of Freight - The New York Times 
Outrage and Optimism Podcast: Greening Shipping 
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, Kati and Jennifer drive up a semi-sequel to our retail and packaging episode — as in what comes next when it comes to getting food into your fridge and your clothes in your closet.  </p><p>Shipping and trucking are complicated industries that touch nearly every aspect of our lives. In this episode we’ll consider how ESG professionals are communicating a puzzle that consists of a zillion interlocking pieces and impacts legions of stakeholders. </p><p>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>! </p><p>Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard. </p><p><strong>Episode Links </strong></p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/28/business/energy-environment/electric-trucks-port-california.html?mwgrp=c-dbar&amp;unlocked_article_code=1.KE0.uzZi.mO0Riuf7O3lo&amp;hpgrp=k-abar&amp;smid=url-share">California Pushes Electric Trucks as the Future of Freight - The New York Times</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.outrageandoptimism.org/episodes/greening-shipping?hsLang=en">Outrage and Optimism Podcast: Greening Shipping</a> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Charging Into Retail + Packaging EP 13</title>
      <description>In this episode, Kati + Jennifer cover how big familiar consumer brands like PepsiCo, H&amp;M, Unilever and Amazon are approaching sustainability in packaging and materials — and the lessons we can take from them as ESG comms professionals.
Join us as we dive into the upstream efforts of these companies to reduce waste and carbon emissions, learn how they are communicating these efforts to consumers and of course, consider how they are reacting to climate action criticism in real time.
Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.
Episode Links
The Burning Problem of Japan’s Waste Disposal - Tokyo Review
PepsiCo Struggles to Advance its Plastic Sustainability Goals | Packaging Dive
H&amp;M Launches Green Loan Program to Finance Suppliers’ Emissions Reductions Initiatives - ESG Today
Why We Need a Global Treaty to End Plastic Pollution
Breaking the Plastic Wave: Top Findings for Preventing Plastic Pollution | The Pew
Charitable Trusts
Great Pacific Garbage Patch
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2024 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Charging Into Retail + Packaging</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>13</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>In this episode, Kati + Jennifer cover how big familiar consumer brands like PepsiCo, H&amp;M, Unilever and Amazon are approaching sustainability in packaging and materials — and the lessons we can take from them as ESG comms professionals.
Join us as we dive into the upstream efforts of these companies to reduce waste and carbon emissions, learn how they are communicating these efforts to consumers and of course, consider how they are reacting to climate action criticism in real time.
Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.
Episode Links
The Burning Problem of Japan’s Waste Disposal - Tokyo Review
PepsiCo Struggles to Advance its Plastic Sustainability Goals | Packaging Dive
H&amp;M Launches Green Loan Program to Finance Suppliers’ Emissions Reductions Initiatives - ESG Today
Why We Need a Global Treaty to End Plastic Pollution
Breaking the Plastic Wave: Top Findings for Preventing Plastic Pollution | The Pew
Charitable Trusts
Great Pacific Garbage Patch
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Kati + Jennifer cover how big familiar consumer brands like PepsiCo, H&amp;M, Unilever and Amazon are approaching sustainability in packaging and materials — and the lessons we can take from them as ESG comms professionals.</p><p>Join us as we dive into the upstream efforts of these companies to reduce waste and carbon emissions, learn how they are communicating these efforts to consumers and of course, consider how they are reacting to climate action criticism in real time.</p><p>Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>!</p><p>Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.</p><p><strong>Episode Links</strong></p><p><a href="https://tokyoreview.net/2019/07/burning-problem-japan-waste-recycling/">The Burning Problem of Japan’s Waste Disposal - Tokyo Review</a></p><p><a href="https://www.packagingdive.com/news/pepsico-esg-report-plastic-packaging/654337/">PepsiCo Struggles to Advance its Plastic Sustainability Goals | Packaging Dive</a></p><p><a href="https://www.esgtoday.com/hm-launches-green-loan-program-to-finance-suppliers-emissions-reductions-initiatives/">H&amp;M Launches Green Loan Program to Finance Suppliers’ Emissions Reductions Initiatives - ESG Today</a></p><p><a href="https://www.unilever.com/news/news-search/2024/why-we-need-a-global-treaty-to-end-plastic-pollution/">Why We Need a Global Treaty to End Plastic Pollution</a></p><p><a href="https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/articles/2020/07/23/breaking-the-plastic-wave-top-findings">Breaking the Plastic Wave: Top Findings for Preventing Plastic Pollution | The Pew</a></p><p><a href="https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/articles/2020/07/23/breaking-the-plastic-wave-top-findings">Charitable Trusts</a></p><p><a href="https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/great-pacific-garbage-patch/">Great Pacific Garbage Patch</a></p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>2027</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Flying Into the Airline Industry EP 12</title>
      <description>Fasten your seatbelts because we’re going to zoom into travel — specifically, airlines. It's certainly a hot topic for sustainability but it’s also a return visit for a theme we considered in Season One: airline advertising.
From carbon-neutral claims to sustainable airline fuel, travel is a hotbed of sustainability questions, concerns and even lawsuits. Join Jennifer + Kati as they break it all down and consider its impact on ESG comms overall

﻿Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2024 10:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Flying Into the Airline Industry</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>12</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Fasten your seatbelts because we’re going to zoom into travel — specifically, airlines. It's certainly a hot topic for sustainability but it’s also a return visit for a theme we considered in Season One: airline advertising.
From carbon-neutral claims to sustainable airline fuel, travel is a hotbed of sustainability questions, concerns and even lawsuits. Join Jennifer + Kati as they break it all down and consider its impact on ESG comms overall

﻿Have a question for us? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Fasten your seatbelts because we’re going to zoom into travel — specifically, airlines. It's certainly a hot topic for sustainability but it’s also a return visit for a theme we considered in Season One: airline advertising.</p><p>From carbon-neutral claims to sustainable airline fuel, travel is a hotbed of sustainability questions, concerns and even lawsuits. Join Jennifer + Kati as they break it all down and consider its impact on ESG comms overall</p><p><br></p><p>﻿Have a question for us? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>!</p><p>Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1176</itunes:duration>
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      <title>We’re Back for Season Two! EP 11</title>
      <description>Kati and Jennifer are back on the mic for a brand-new season of Engaging ESG. This time they're shifting gears to spotlight how specific industry sectors are navigating and communicating through the ever-evolving sustainability landscape.
The new season kicks off with a round-up of key sustainability news and policy changes impacting the world of ESG comms.
Have a question? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.

Episode Links 
COP28: Key takeaways for investors from the global climate summit 
Billion-Dollar Weather and Climate Disasters 
CSR Needs CPR: Corporate Sustainability and Politics 
New California Law Imposes Anti-Greenwashing Disclosure Requirements Starting January 2024 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2024 11:57:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>We’re Back for Season Two!</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>11</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Kati and Jennifer are back on the mic for a brand-new season of Engaging ESG. This time they're shifting gears to spotlight how specific industry sectors are navigating and communicating through the ever-evolving sustainability landscape.
The new season kicks off with a round-up of key sustainability news and policy changes impacting the world of ESG comms.
Have a question? Email us today at engagingesg@gmail.com!
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.

Episode Links 
COP28: Key takeaways for investors from the global climate summit 
Billion-Dollar Weather and Climate Disasters 
CSR Needs CPR: Corporate Sustainability and Politics 
New California Law Imposes Anti-Greenwashing Disclosure Requirements Starting January 2024 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Kati and Jennifer are back on the mic for a brand-new season of Engaging ESG. This time they're shifting gears to spotlight how specific industry sectors are navigating and communicating through the ever-evolving sustainability landscape.</p><p>The new season kicks off with a round-up of key sustainability news and policy changes impacting the world of ESG comms.</p><p>Have a question? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingesg@gmail.com">engagingesg@gmail.com</a>!</p><p>Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vangard.</p><p><br></p><p><strong>Episode Links </strong></p><p><a href="https://www.msci.com/documents/10199/d23a6f90-b40c-a3d4-1e0a-6caccb4cd1f3">COP28: Key takeaways for investors from the global climate summit</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/billions/">Billion-Dollar Weather and Climate Disasters</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.hbs.edu/ris/Publication%20Files/Lyon_et_al_2018_CMR_f4406d48-0511-4f2a-a83f-7ee1e2952c8c.pdf">CSR Needs CPR: Corporate Sustainability and Politics</a> </p><p><a href="https://www.paulhastings.com/insights/client-alerts/new-california-law-imposes-anti-greenwashing-disclosure-requirements">New California Law Imposes Anti-Greenwashing Disclosure Requirements Starting January 2024</a> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Building the Future of ESG Comms EP 10</title>
      <description>This week Kati and Jennifer are looking to the future of ESG comms work. From stories told at the intersection of diversity and sustainability to those told by AI, where do you see ESG content going?
This episode marks the end of our current season but we’d love to hear what — or who! — you’d like us to cover in the future. Email us today at engagingESG@gmail.com.
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.
﻿Episode Note 
Putting AI to Work for your Sustainability Communications by Nicole Loher 
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      <pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2023 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Building the Future of ESG Comms</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>10</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This week Kati and Jennifer are looking to the future of ESG comms work. From stories told at the intersection of diversity and sustainability to those told by AI, where do you see ESG content going?
This episode marks the end of our current season but we’d love to hear what — or who! — you’d like us to cover in the future. Email us today at engagingESG@gmail.com.
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.
﻿Episode Note 
Putting AI to Work for your Sustainability Communications by Nicole Loher 
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week Kati and Jennifer are looking to the future of ESG comms work. From stories told at the intersection of diversity and sustainability to those told by AI, where do you see ESG content going?</p><p>This episode marks the end of our current season but we’d love to hear what — or who! — you’d like us to cover in the future. Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingESG@gmail.com">engagingESG@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.</p><p><strong>﻿Episode Note</strong> </p><p><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/putting-ai-work-your-sustainability-communications-nicole-loher%3FtrackingId=mh%252FK%252FwO%252FVZ3NhBEDYqj3aA%253D%253D/?trackingId=mh%2FK%2FwO%2FVZ3NhBEDYqj3aA%3D%3D">Putting AI to Work for your Sustainability Communications by Nicole Loher</a> </p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1542</itunes:duration>
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      <title>ESG Comms: Ask Me Anything EP 9</title>
      <description>This week Kati and Jennifer are taking your ESG comms questions — from tips on building a global strategy to working with your subject matter experts without getting lost in the weeds and everything in between.
Have another question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at engagingESG@gmail.com.
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Aug 2023 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>ESG Comms: Ask Me Anything</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>9</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This week Kati and Jennifer are taking your ESG comms questions — from tips on building a global strategy to working with your subject matter experts without getting lost in the weeds and everything in between.
Have another question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at engagingESG@gmail.com.
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week Kati and Jennifer are taking your ESG comms questions — from tips on building a global strategy to working with your subject matter experts without getting lost in the weeds and everything in between.</p><p>Have another question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingESG@gmail.com">engagingESG@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1825</itunes:duration>
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      <title>Greenwashing + Greenhushing EP 8</title>
      <description>Get out your dirty laundry! This week Kati and Jennifer are talking greenwashing, diversity washing, rainbow washing — and what it means for our future when companies are too worried to talk about their ESG work at all.
Have a question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at engagingESG@gmail.com.
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Aug 2023 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Greenwashing + Greenhushing</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>8</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Get out your dirty laundry! This week Kati and Jennifer are talking greenwashing, diversity washing, rainbow washing — and what it means for our future when companies are too worried to talk about their ESG work at all.
Have a question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at engagingESG@gmail.com.
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Get out your dirty laundry! This week Kati and Jennifer are talking greenwashing, diversity washing, rainbow washing — and what it means for our future when companies are too worried to talk about their ESG work at all.</p><p>Have a question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingESG@gmail.com">engagingESG@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1691</itunes:duration>
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      <title>When Customers Question Your ESG Strategy EP 7</title>
      <description>Customers are more conscious and informed about diversity, sustainability and social issues than ever before. This week, Kati and Jennifer discuss the important connection between authentic commitment and meaningful action — as well as what can happen when that connection doesn't exist.
Have a question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at engagingESG@gmail.com.
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2023 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>When Customers Question Your ESG Strategy</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>7</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Customers are more conscious and informed about diversity, sustainability and social issues than ever before. This week, Kati and Jennifer discuss the important connection between authentic commitment and meaningful action — as well as what can happen when that connection doesn't exist.
Have a question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at engagingESG@gmail.com.
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Customers are more conscious and informed about diversity, sustainability and social issues than ever before. This week, Kati and Jennifer discuss the important connection between authentic commitment and meaningful action — as well as what can happen when that connection doesn't exist.</p><p>Have a question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingESG@gmail.com">engagingESG@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1416</itunes:duration>
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      <title>When Investors Question Your ESG Strategy EP 6</title>
      <description>This week, Kati and Jennifer dissect the difference between corporate ESG and ESG investment — and discuss what some opponents deem “woke capitalism.” How should your company respond to a dust-up over your efforts to curb emissions, improve circularity or crack down on discrimination in the workplace? We have thoughts.
Have a question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at engagingESG@gmail.com.
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2023 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>When Investors Question Your ESG Strategy</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>6</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This week, Kati and Jennifer dissect the difference between corporate ESG and ESG investment — and discuss what some opponents deem “woke capitalism.” How should your company respond to a dust-up over your efforts to curb emissions, improve circularity or crack down on discrimination in the workplace? We have thoughts.
Have a question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at engagingESG@gmail.com.
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, Kati and Jennifer dissect the difference between corporate ESG and ESG investment — and discuss what some opponents deem “woke capitalism.” How should your company respond to a dust-up over your efforts to curb emissions, improve circularity or crack down on discrimination in the workplace? We have thoughts.</p><p>Have a question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingESG@gmail.com">engagingESG@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1386</itunes:duration>
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      <title>When Employees Question Your ESG Strategy EP 5</title>
      <description>Many companies speak of the importance of their “people” in driving company strategy and ESG topics are no different. This week, Kati and Jennifer focus on employee engagement, a key stakeholder group for your ESG communications strategy, and offer tips for educating employees, tackling real-time questions and empowering your “super greens” to act as ambassadors for your work.
Have a question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at engagingESG@gmail.com.
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2023 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:summary>Many companies speak of the importance of their “people” in driving company strategy and ESG topics are no different. This week, Kati and Jennifer focus on employee engagement, a key stakeholder group for your ESG communications strategy, and offer tips for educating employees, tackling real-time questions and empowering your “super greens” to act as ambassadors for your work.
Have a question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at engagingESG@gmail.com.
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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      <title>Inviting Partners into Your ESG Tent EP 4</title>
      <description>Partners can play an important role in not only in establishing or strengthening your ESG strategy but verifying and amplifying your messaging as well. This week on Engaging ESG, Jennifer and Kati spell out the benefits, challenges, and best practices of working with external organizations — and offer strategies for vetting the best partners to work with for your company.
Have a question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at engagingESG@gmail.com.
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2023 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
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      <itunes:episode>4</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:summary>Partners can play an important role in not only in establishing or strengthening your ESG strategy but verifying and amplifying your messaging as well. This week on Engaging ESG, Jennifer and Kati spell out the benefits, challenges, and best practices of working with external organizations — and offer strategies for vetting the best partners to work with for your company.
Have a question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at engagingESG@gmail.com.
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Partners can play an important role in not only in establishing or strengthening your ESG strategy but verifying and amplifying your messaging as well. This week on Engaging ESG, Jennifer and Kati spell out the benefits, challenges, and best practices of working with external organizations — and offer strategies for vetting the best partners to work with for your company.</p><p>Have a question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingESG@gmail.com">engagingESG@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>ESG Comms vs ESG Reporting EP 3</title>
      <description>This week on Engaging ESG, Jennifer and Kati discuss the evolving world of required and voluntary reporting — and how each impacts the other. From crafting an ESG narrative and deciding who owns it to targeting specific audiences where they live, we tackle what it really takes to create impact.
Have a question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at engagingESG@gmail.com.
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2023 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>ESG Comms vs ESG Reporting</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:episode>3</itunes:episode>
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      <itunes:summary>This week on Engaging ESG, Jennifer and Kati discuss the evolving world of required and voluntary reporting — and how each impacts the other. From crafting an ESG narrative and deciding who owns it to targeting specific audiences where they live, we tackle what it really takes to create impact.
Have a question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at engagingESG@gmail.com.
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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      <title>How Do I Get People to Pay Attention to ESG? EP 2</title>
      <description>This week on Engaging ESG, Jennifer and Kati map the “who” and “what” of ESG comms, as in the many, many reports and content options available to your team and the even more stakeholders, partners and experts who will play a part in showing and sharing your ESG story.
Have a question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at engagingESG@gmail.com.
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2023 09:05:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>How Do I Get People to Pay Attention to ESG?</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:episode>2</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>This week on Engaging ESG, Jennifer and Kati map the “who” and “what” of ESG comms, as in the many, many reports and content options available to your team and the even more stakeholders, partners and experts who will play a part in showing and sharing your ESG story.
Have a question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at engagingESG@gmail.com.
Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week on Engaging ESG, Jennifer and Kati map the “who” and “what” of ESG comms, as in the many, many reports and content options available to your team and the even more stakeholders, partners and experts who will play a part in showing and sharing your ESG story.</p><p>Have a question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at <a href="mailto:engagingESG@gmail.com">engagingESG@gmail.com</a>.</p><p>Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard.</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:duration>1814</itunes:duration>
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      <title>What is ESG — and Why Do We Need to Talk About It? EP 1</title>
      <description>Welcome to Engaging ESG, the new podcast that considers what it takes to get ESG communications right — and how it can go oh so wrong.
This week, Jennifer Owens, former external content strategy lead for Meta Sustainability, and Kati Kallins, former head of sustainability engagement at Meta, map out the fundamentals of what Environmental, Social and Governance really means — to your business, to your customers, to our planet.
Have a question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at engagingESG@gmail.com.

Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2023 09:00:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>What is ESG — and Why Do We Need to Talk About It?</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:episode>1</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle></itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:summary>Welcome to Engaging ESG, the new podcast that considers what it takes to get ESG communications right — and how it can go oh so wrong.
This week, Jennifer Owens, former external content strategy lead for Meta Sustainability, and Kati Kallins, former head of sustainability engagement at Meta, map out the fundamentals of what Environmental, Social and Governance really means — to your business, to your customers, to our planet.
Have a question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at engagingESG@gmail.com.

Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Welcome to Engaging ESG, the new podcast that considers what it takes to get ESG communications right — and how it can go oh so wrong.</p><p>This week, Jennifer Owens, former external content strategy lead for Meta Sustainability, and Kati Kallins, former head of sustainability engagement at Meta, map out the fundamentals of what Environmental, Social and Governance really means — to your business, to your customers, to our planet.</p><p>Have a question for us to consider or a strategy you’d like us to cover? Email us today at <a href="engagingESG@gmail.com.">engagingESG@gmail.com.</a></p><p><br></p><p>Our theme music is “Lost in Translation” by Wendy Marcini and Elvin Vanguard</p><p> </p><p>Learn more about your ad choices. Visit <a href="https://megaphone.fm/adchoices">megaphone.fm/adchoices</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Engaging ESG</title>
      <description>Engaging ESG is a bimonthly series exploring the evolving landscape of ESG communications. Join Jennifer Owens, former external content strategy lead for Meta Sustainability, and Kati Kallins, former head of sustainability engagement at Meta, as they address the pitfalls and opportunities hidden in your ESG comms plan and provide practical answers you and your team can use today.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2023 15:29:00 -0000</pubDate>
      <itunes:title>Engaging ESG</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>trailer</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Jennifer Owens and Kati Kallins </itunes:author>
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      <itunes:summary>Engaging ESG is a bimonthly series exploring the evolving landscape of ESG communications. Join Jennifer Owens, former external content strategy lead for Meta Sustainability, and Kati Kallins, former head of sustainability engagement at Meta, as they address the pitfalls and opportunities hidden in your ESG comms plan and provide practical answers you and your team can use today.
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices</itunes:summary>
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